Haven’t played a heresy game yet
#MALEGHAST HOMEBREW
stuck canopy
Too scared cuz we have one player who takes a little too long to make their moves and heresy would stump them more
ivory bane
oh yea absolutely
The game is a bit obscure and there were barely any examples of people playing heresy so far xd
stuck canopy
Knowing Tom bloom, it’ll get more popular as time passes
Like lancer
Lancer: The Titanfall TTRPG
ivory bane
tom does plan an update/expansion, but some time later
i am excited looking at the previews.....
stuck canopy
For maleghast or lancer?
ivory bane
maleghast
tbh i am sadly yet to play lancer
read the rules, never got the opportunity xd
ivory bane
But what are the previews?
New official house and a new mechanic - merchants
official house are bird cultists, living near the top of the city.
@stuck canopy
#1164643959721693184 message
merchants are randomized "mutators" for the match as far as i can tell
lost bough
I’m curious if the devil system is also coming along side that
ivory bane
devil system?
stuck canopy
Ngl “circling” is neat
stuck canopy
Good way to guarantee the tyrant is gonna be around mid game rather than killed off early
ivory bane
going for some minor touchups with wylderot....
old corpse fly portraits vs new corpsefly portrait
Old gnatknight vs new gnatknight
ivory bane
yea literally just the mouth xd
stuck canopy
Got a question for ya
ivory bane
mhm?
stuck canopy
A metal diesel zeppelin or a normal zeppelin made from metal and flesh?
ivory bane
Why not both
Although your faction didnt look like it was much flesh themed
so maybe metal diesel zepp but with some corpse like details?
skulls, skeletal hands, face-like shapes in soft parts, etc, etc
ivory bane
since its diesel, it might have a smoking pipe, that exhales a weird mass of your factions energy, with some vaguely hand-like shapes forming/visible in the smoke
idk
xd
stuck canopy
Truuuuue
ivory bane
I would personally got for a big mecha instead of a zepp for a tyrant but thats a scythe player speaking in me
stuck canopy
Already got something along that line with the Barghest
stuck canopy
ivory bane
god, jakub rozalski had such cool designs.......
stuck canopy
Might hide the head tho, not sure
stuck canopy
god, jakub rozalski had such cool designs.......
Too bad a lot of his art is third person
ivory bane
Too bad a lot of his art is third person
wdym?
stuck canopy
Most of his art is one person overlooking something
ivory bane
Oh yeah thats strue
Its a bit formulaic
person in the foreground looking at something big/fucked up in the background
stuck canopy
Ye
ivory bane
stuck canopy
Saw that
I had a houndmaster unit in mind but it didn’t fit the playstyle
They had robot puppers
But I’m thinking I can maybe give the female variant of the necromancer a robot pupper companion in the art
ivory bane
could make something like a robot companion styled as a necro weapon one could take if you still have some to add
ivory bane
kayyyy
archive updated, wylderot updated, people credited....
do i have anything else to do
stuck canopy
Sergeant Cuddles: Range 1-5, Attack, On Hit: 1 damage, ignore armour and the target cannot use MOVE this round.
@ivory bane should they look like a pitbull, a Great Dane or a Doberman?
ivory bane
Sergeant Cuddles: Range 1-5, Attack, On Hit: 1 damage, ignore armour and the tar...
id suggest giving some a more generic name, like Mechanical Hound or whatever, so people playing the faction would have more blanks to fill in/name them themselves, etc
ivory bane
<@181069894324846593> should they look like a pitbull, a Great Dane or a Doberma...
great dane fits, imo
stuck canopy
id suggest giving some a more generic name, like Mechanical Hound or whatever, s...
Truueee
But I’ll always know >:3
My something like “Baron’s Best Friend”
Their name is gonna be on the token art anyways :3
So it’s decided, baron gets ciaphus Cain touch and baroness gets her Sargent Snuggums >:3
ivory bane
lost bough
this is really nice art man
stuck canopy
Just placeholder doodles for now but thank u ❤️
lost bough
do you got any other art you've done in the past?
stuck canopy
I do different styles
Here’s a semi realistic piece I’m working on for a ||porn game|| , I get a lot of commission for stuff like that
It’s in the 60% phase of completion
tawdry root
Hell yeah
lost bough
hell yeah
lost bough
nice!
tawdry root
These are great
stuck canopy
Anyway this is maleghast homebrew and don’t wanna clog up stuff
Alls ya need to know is I’m quite decent at most styles and copying others styles isn’t that hard for me given enough time
tawdry root
Feel free to post stuff you make in #the-gallery
stuck canopy
Feel free to post stuff you make in <#561000253608820737>
Most of my commissions are porn but I’ll make sure to when I get a NSFW comm
tawdry root
Hah, fair
You can also put your commission info there
stuck canopy
Nah just finished a big commission and wanna go on break to make my own stuff
Tho might still do small things
I’ll also keep that in mind
tawdry root
o7
stuck canopy
Anyone got ideas for what the Morale tokens for House Zeitlos should be?
All I got is a sort of crest
ivory bane
A mix between fleur de lis and iron cross?
stuck canopy
wanna avoid too much realworld stuff
already towing the line with ww1 diesalpunk german vibe
trying to avoid them being called "steam robot nazis"
strong needle
Crossed swords? Raised fist? A helmet with an upwards arrow in the middle?
Maybe a lion head or something like that?
stuck canopy
Hmmmm the raised fist and helmet ideas catch my interest
strong needle
Raised fist might intersect with some symbols people use for strength tokens, but I think you could differentiate it enough
stuck canopy
ok the basic unit placeholders are done for now
definitly gonna redo the the Barghest (big powersuit) to be more imposing and battleready)
very proud of Moserteam being just a chest mortar
kinda wanna give the morserteam a loader friend but im not sure if itll clutter too much
slow raptor
Love em
tawdry root
kinda wanna give the morserteam a loader friend but im not sure if itll clutter ...
Maybe a big robot arm
tawdry root
That is not quite but really sick for some of the others
stuck canopy
Maybe a big robot arm
Nah, I want them to look as fragile as they mechanically are
stuck canopy
Hey @ivory bane
Would u be open to making a two variant trench tile?
One is normal trench and the other is one with barb wire
ivory bane
I am unsure on how would one make it, sadly
As in, i can make a flat tile that would look like a trench, but it would be weird if trenches are just flat, right?
stuck canopy
Nah a flat tile is perfect
Think of it like a pathway and on each side have Sandgas or wooden bracing like they did in world war 1
ivory bane
I think it might be better to use stair tiles to represent it
stuck canopy
How so? Cuz I’m open to ideas
ivory bane
You can place the wooden bridge special terrain piece to represent the wooden tiling, and then place stairs on neighbouring tiles to represent the dig
sadly cant show, playing twilight imperium rn
stuck canopy
that feels like itd take 2 tiles which i dont want
meant something like this but a flat tile so units can stand on it
id definitly pay u for ur time no matter how small
within reason ofcourse
ivory bane
meant something like this but a flat tile so units can stand on it
yea i know itd just look bad if its flat :с
stuck canopy
could always make a flat tile and than have sandbags bracing as a another object and then connect them together in tts via the "glue" feature
ivory bane
yea but then its going to take a ton of work to make it work with the modularity, sadly
stuck canopy
modularity?
using the main tile as the grid snap seems easy tho
wont force ya tho
ivory bane
modularity?
the way its done with river and road tiles
so you can have corners and such
stuck canopy
no need friend
buuuut
having a corners and such is kinda cool
but an easy fix with the aforementioned way of double layers
if ur not game thats fair and i wont nag ya, can always do it later on
ivory bane
I think it will be more effort than its worth to make it of high enough quality, sadly
stuck canopy
understandable friend
no harm no foul
would u mind sending me the art for the street pathway tile tho?
wanna use it as a base
proven orchid
Art for a unit for a (hopefully) upcoming house we're tooling around with
stuck canopy
lookin good
also has anyone been making a Succubus class?
think i might do a Vitality stealing house that is like slaanesh after Zeitlos
but more unwordly
and all about stealing vitality of enemies and gaining benefits for killing them in thi way
undone sorrel
made some tokens for the Vindicators
tawdry root
hell yeaaaaah
ivory bane
would u mind sending me the art for the street pathway tile tho?
Oh, which one is it?
Like the asphalt road styke one?
ivory bane
but an easy fix with the aforementioned way of double layers
Okay, so the reason i personally think it wont work
Lets say this is ozr tile + some tiles around it
A unit is roughly this big, with space left for tokens and such
You need your trench to big enough to fit the base without it awkwardly clipping
This, for example, is too tight
A good way to avoid that would be by making it spillover like this
stuck canopy
id imagined it like this
nothing beeg
nice and simple flat tile
and the variant that works with Trenchfoots upgrade called "Booby-trap"
ivory bane
id imagined it like this
Yea but the problem is that it would clip into the base
Not necessarily ofc but it will be hard to get it exactly to not do that
Another thing is that there cant be a slope
So no this
stuck canopy
clip into base
ivory bane
Just this
stuck canopy
nice and simple flat tile
^
stuck canopy
sacrifices must be made otherwise itll cause problems for players trying to put stuff on top
ivory bane
I tend to prio aesthetic over function in regards to terrain like that since like
Aesthetic is the whole point
I think i actually lost the source files for mx old terrain, fuck T.T
ivory bane
I think it could be fine if i made like
half-a-wall sort of tile, that could be used to make trenches or to represent some new terrain, like cover and stuff
You just put it on the edgr of a tile instead of the centre
stuck canopy
ivory bane
My actual concern is a bit different
stuck canopy
You just put it on the edgr of a tile instead of the centre
then what about placing tyrants on top of it
itll get tipped or look wonky
ivory bane
My actual concern is a bit different
If i did that, i either do it top down, or from "side"
If i do it topdown, it means the sides are completely black
If i do it from side, it means the top is completely black
stuck canopy
If i do it topdown, it means the sides are completely black
why black?
ivory bane
Because its not a model, its an image converted by the tabletop into a 3d asset
Not necessarily black tho, just monocolor
I guess i could make it grey to distinguish it
stuck canopy
no need to push urself friend
ivory bane
If you need examples, check how walls look/work, as opposed to standee special terrain tokens i made
ivory bane
no need to push urself friend
I just feel bad when i cant fulfill a request xd
stuck canopy
thats the woes of being an artist homeslice, limits are important
ivory bane
I am bargaining with myself to see if theres a way to do it good, but i dont think there is, at least not without a ton of sadly unnecessary work
stuck canopy
I still think a 3 tile trench formation is a good idea
then building them side by side would be a problem
since mechanically they are meant to be stopgaps
ivory bane
Yea
I was thinking of this trench to have a mechanic like
While in trench, you are in cover against attack from out of trench
Moving from a trench to an out of trench tile counts as miving from adverse terrain
stuck canopy
While in trench, you are in cover against attack from out of trench
nah thatd be too powerful since sand-gas is that
ivory bane
Like a map fimkivk6or smh
ivory bane
Do note that thralls usually have 2 acts
stuck canopy
watcah mean?
that they can act together
ye i know
thats the whole point of a thrall
ivory bane
No i mean that thrall archetype usually has 2 actions, not 3
ivory bane
I also think its better to note that dig trench creates trenches, since trenches are special tokens with special rules
Instead of just repeating definition if a trench
Zeitlos is such a badass name....
ivory bane
means timeless
I live in germany rn, i know xd
ivory bane
My name is just german for owl xd
stuck canopy
i got the schneider last name
and my first name is the most embarresing
means sunshine pillow in celtic 
ivory bane
By name i mean here, my server and steam name
stuck canopy
What happens if you put a trench in an adverse terrain or vice versa?
like the core rules specify, they can replace it until it's destroyed
ivory bane
Does that mean that whatever is "on top" takes priority in that sense?
ivory bane
So you can dig a trench through gargsnort to get your free movement but garga can sneeze in your trench to deprive you of it again
ivory bane
I suggest making a q n a section and adding this there
stuck canopy
already have it prepped, jsut not in the file
ivory bane
Okie
stuck canopy
So you can dig a trench through gargsnort to get your free movement but garga ca...
tunneler life
good counters to Zeitlos are Deadsouls, Abhorrers and Igorri
Igorri's ability to fuck with Zeitlos's morale system is king
ivory bane
I am pondering on how it could fare against archive or wylderot for whatever reason
stuck canopy
keep in mind
ivory bane
Still cant let go of homebrew tournament idea....
stuck canopy
morale tokens can be....stolen
if you can get ur hands on them, any faction can use them
stuck canopy
didnt say it's efficient but it certainly fucks stunts zeitlos
as they rely on morale for their high effect rolls
deadsouls is a matter of who caves in first
and Abhorrer just straight up have a slight advantage
ivory bane
didnt say it's efficient but it certainly fucks stunts zeitlos
So sorta like carcass
A lot of effects on high rolls so conditional sources of advantage?
stuck canopy
ye
ivory bane
and Abhorrer just straight up have a slight advantage
Not seeing how?
Holy nuke ignoring sandgas?
stuck canopy
abhorrers scale in the longrun and can outlast them easily
stuck canopy
Holy nuke ignoring sandgas?
jsut means they can use ranged attacks while they are sandgased
cuz u can only apply sand gas to allied units
similiar to ur wild-callers
u wanna merc the Morser teams first, as they are the main source of sand-gas besides death
if ya think it might be imbalanced please explain why, i like to take every opportunity to make things fair (within reason)
lost bough
im pretty sure terrain effects dont overide eachother
stuck canopy
as long as its not a hazard or wall ur replacing or currently occupied by a unit
its allowed
did a lot of fact checking before i settled on trench-making
lost bough
i dont really see what you are getting this from
stuck canopy
the corebook?
lost bough
no like
the replacing part
stuck canopy
creation effects and the labeled part
respectfully, i dont see what ur missing here
lost bough
so ur saying that, if u place a hazard on an adverse space, it becomes a hazard a space and not a hazard/adverse space?
stuck canopy
yes
thats what the book says
it doesnt stack effects of the same type however
so u cant stack a hazard on hazard and get 2 damage
lost bough
well ye
stuck canopy
u so itll do one damage and cost extra movement
its why garg is good for roadstopping
cuz they ahve the ability to make adverse terrain and hazard on the same space
lost bough
so ur saying that, if u place a hazard on an adverse space, it becomes a hazard ...
sorry when u said yes i thought u meant that the latter was wrong
stuck canopy
ye its only a hazard if u get the trenchfoot upgrade booby-trap and has to be made by trenchfoots
lost bough
right right
and the scion has the hazard immunity upgrade
alright. im all clear. sorry bout that
stuck canopy
only on MOVE actions
if he ends his turn there or starts his turn it applies like normal
lost bough
Oh huh
stuck canopy
Now just Baron Faust and The Duchess (Zeppelin)
then i can redo it all and improve it
definitly gotta simplify things in the final draft, waaaay too cluttered
dense trail
dinos
low river
Mezogogues
this kind of necromancy is formed by a pact with a devil that's been buried beneath the earth for millions of years and only their fossilized bones remain of their body
Color scheme: Sea green
missing undead: scion
Trait: Fossilized. a unit with this trait starts the game with 2 stone tokens, decreasing movement speed to a minimum of 2 and increasing df to a maximum of 5. every time a unit with a stone token is hit, they lose one stone token and gain one movement speed and lose one defense
Thrall: Necroraptor mv 3 hp 2 df 3+ arm none
traits: fossilized, thrall
Freak: Chimera mv 3 hp 3 df 4+ arm mag
traits: fossilized, flight
Hunter: Packwyvern mv 4 hp 4 df 3+ arm phys
traits: fossilized, slither, formation
Horror: Hydra mv 3 hp 4 df 3+ arm none
traits: fossilized, swarm release(snakes)
Tyrant: Terrorsail mv 3 hp 6 df 4+ arm phys
traits: fossilized, tyrant, debris(tyrant exclusive, when the tyrant breaks terrain, it gains one stone token up to a maximum of 4
low river
6 vulnerable
light vale
¯_(ツ)_/¯
You might be right It may work better in game its just on paper that sounds like a lot is all
low river
inverted communism(doesn't sound good on paper, works well in practice)
regal fjord
Ancient is just a really strong bloodrage, what if instead
Ancient- This unit is -1d to hit while it has a Stone token attached.
regal fjord
Stone Token, each unit starts the game with some form of calcification, when they get hit they become faster, but less tough.
Maybe they have +1 MV
Sorry, on the train in a tunnel
low river
i like it!
regal fjord
Then, you can have something where the Tyrant breaking walls gives it stone tokens
Necromancer can remove them at no cost
That kind of thing.
I feel like there are better names.
Debris? Ossify?
Whatever floats your boat.
low river
i need a name for the faction
light vale
i need a name for the faction
Mesogogues
light vale
Its spelled Mesozoic Era though.
low river
ok
light vale
the z would be cooler though
low river
mezogogues locked in
regal fjord
I have a good idea, occasionally
proven orchid
Artifeaster unit portraits
low river
these look sick
proven orchid
Now we just gotta finish
the actual mechanics :3
low river
don't look at me, i just made the fucking mezogogues, i'm all out of creative steam
proven orchid
This is something we must do alone...........
but also......
difficult. . ....
low river
we understand. have fun in agony!
low river
why is that so funny
i feel like if you motion blurred an image of some felt and added that caption but in comic sans lowercase it'd be so fucking funny
viscid marsh
trying to brew actual statblocks for maleghast is something i personally struggle with, so i simply sympathize with the plight of the 'brewer
i dunno how salt churned out like four fuckin' factions in the span of two weeks
viscid marsh
i feel like if you motion blurred an image of some felt and added that caption b...
real
i've made like. one unit for the hb faction i'm cooking.
low river
dnd homebrew is like brewing potions in in that one game.
maleghast homebrew is like trying to make the perfect cocktail by making all the ingredients youself.
viscid marsh
yeaaah
dense trail
whats a good theme for the Phylactery faction hm
going straight into Lich stuff feels underwhelming flavor-wise
low river
while deadsouls gave up their souls to a god, these guys gave up their bodies to one
viscid marsh
"nice physical body IDIOT, check out my cool ghost shit"
lost bough
i dunno how salt churned out like four fuckin' factions in the span of two weeks
I have smooth brain…
low river
"nice physical body IDIOT, check out my cool ghost shit"
exactly
viscid marsh
I have smooth brain…
your brain is wrinkled more than a raisin you fuckin' liar
low river
I have smooth brain…
man's got the most overclocked brain out there
viscid marsh
it looks smooth but this shit is so deeply wrinkled you don't even know
lost bough
Anyway the real answer is that maleghast designs space is pretty familiar? It’s close enough to the funny grid games i like where i can work pretty easy with it
viscid marsh
scans
lost bough
Like its has the same fucking health pools as into the breach
I’m in my soup right now
If you need any pointers im down to give some
viscid marsh
once i'm done with the field guide i'll probably go hard into the evil space faction
so your help will be greatly appreciate then
regal fjord
Please tell me the Danse Macabre is a circus faction
lost bough
They are street performers ye
lost bough
The bit is that their patron devil, The Black Revelry Devil, is a selfish asshole who won’t give them that good black sacrament, so instead they puppet around bloated corpses with string
low river
pull the strings and make them ring!
low river
with the right setup, that could shred
also, are you taking ideas for basic units or have you done those
dense trail
maybe note that it cant be splash damage. has to be direct.
dense trail
also, are you taking ideas for basic units or have you done those
me or someone else? aack
low river
i had the idea that they use bound spirits instead of the traditional corpses
ivory bane
thoughts?
hmmmmm
kinda feels like a STG but better functionally
since people want to stg the necro anyway
but this time its any attack damage, even a graze, instead of a 6
although the 1 round bit....
I think its fine, as long as you add that the attack needs to actually land
or you can say that it is only allowed to happen at the START of own turn
dense trail
so no graze and no splash damage
direct attack that actually hits the necro
ivory bane
or you can say that it is only allowed to happen at the START of own turn
this way your opponent essentially gets a double turn
dense trail
also thoughts on this?
it feels like it could be difficult to pull off in anything non-digital, or something like TTS where rotating maps can be difficult aack
basically, moves terrain aack
low river
as someone who keeps accidentally turning the board, easier said than done is one hell of an understatement
dense trail
like
could mass select all the units, keeping one's position in mind, turn the board, and then just mass select and drag everyone back on all at once
i forget, does TTS keep relative positions in tact when you move things as a group?
low river
like
could mass select all the units, keeping one's position in mind, turn the b...
i believe so
dense trail
okay so it shouldnt be too hard aack
low river
what does "aack" mean?
dense trail
autism stim
like going awawawa or ough
||i say it when i am. nervous.||
so. a lot of the time.
low river
oh. that's ok
my stims are usually either deranged laughing or...well...you are a worm through time. the thunder song distorts you. happiness comes. white pearls, but yellow and red in the eye. through a mirror, inverted is made right.
dense trail
i have verbal stims
or in. this case. written.
some others are spoilering my own text or keyboard smashing i guess gkfdjh aack
stuck canopy
Artifeaster unit portraits
stuck canopy
also thoughts on this?
it feels like it could be difficult to pull off in anythi...
This….is extremely annoying, ngl
dense trail
tips ur board
stuck canopy
proven orchid
https://tenor.com/view/hal9000-hal-2001-a-space-odyssey-2001a-space-odyssey-gif-...
nuclear throne reference :3
stuck canopy
Lot of house ideas flooding in
Tis very good
@dense trail ur working on the the “time” based one ye?
dense trail
mmm which one?
stuck canopy
The one where u were spitting the idea of spacial tip
dense trail
oh ye
im working on a funny lil one thats basically just Bag of Fun
hehe
[HOUSE] is a placeholder for this house's name. havent come up with one yet.
stuck canopy
What’s the theme?
dense trail
kinda cosmic horror/lovecraftian without going into the overdone motif of tentacles and oooo spooky cultists
actual "unreality" stuff aack
stuck canopy
Outside inside is very similar to the new bird faction coming out from Tom bloom
dense trail
ye
but without the deepstrike stuff, and with more rotation and stuff
the new birds respawn and come back in and land anywhere aack
a lil inspired by that, but wanted to tweak it a lil since i thought deepstriking anywhere and instantly surround things was a lil... rough.
ivory bane
also thoughts on this?
it feels like it could be difficult to pull off in anythi...
in tts it would be easier to just rotate the pieces around
ivory bane
kinda cosmic horror/lovecraftian without going into the overdone motif of tentac...
oooo i thought of a mercenary like that
dense trail
thats part of why its so expensive hkjbfgnjhfg
its 4 soul to take away a key piece from the opponent
but they do get a consolation prize of being able to mess around with your mechanics too
but are forever cursed into a pact with the Outside Devil at the same time....
light vale
Not going to lie. I thought placeholder was a song that I just never heard before
Which was strange because I'm pretty familiar with Rob zombie
dense trail
jckngbkjfcvnbkjfcg
proven orchid
no more Starmetal Godsword 😔
dense trail
could make it the first ever 5 soul
dense trail
no more Starmetal Godsword 😔
specifies upgrades
light vale
I'm just waiting for you to put a deathgrips song reference.
Act: I am the beast I worship
2 adjecent units get denial tokens
dense trail
on it, boss
stuck canopy
I might have some ideas to flesh stuff out but lemme do some kitchen cleaning first
Ok
Back
dense trail
need an idea for a thrall
initial idea was a thrall that goes Outside instead of dying, but that feels a bit too similar to the birds
stuck canopy
It seems like ur either going for Dimension hopper theme with a sort of displaced vibe
Which is a great idea, especially if you go for the Bioshock infinite approach
dense trail
kind of, ye!
general idea is a force that literally exists outside of the game, changing fundamental aspects of it
an invader to the very rules
stuck canopy
Hmmmm I think i think, the pact was there would be too much to keep track of
stuck canopy
kinda cosmic horror/lovecraftian without going into the overdone motif of tentac...
But I like the idea of doppelgangers
The be weary
Ur practically making a non-heresy, heresy house
stuck canopy
general idea is a force that literally exists outside of the game, changing fund...
If u want ideas for units;
Mimics, Doppelgangers, Anomalies, Dimension Hopper, Body Snatcher
stuck canopy
Zombie Harlequins?
stuck canopy
They street performers
What’s their gimmick?
flint lily
That looks good.
stuck canopy
Hey @ivory bane do u mind sending me archive token art so I can mimic the art style?
I won’t force ya of course
ivory bane
Dont have the sync token anywhere i can reach rn anymore, but heres conduit
ivory bane
Ohhh
Thats very deep in saved stuff
Archive is by umbralreaver, not me
She is on the separate maleghast discord tho, so it might be better to just ask directly
stuck canopy
Hmmmmm
How bout the wylderot
I just need a base to mimic
As well ast the correct canvas size
ivory bane
I personally just used a gunwight as base
Wylderot is sifferent stylustically since i cheated on half tones, instead of doing them as a brush proper i did high contrast greyscale and then used filters to create a halftone layer
ivory bane
I suggest asking @undone sorrel! The art style is girgeous and is very close to original
stuck canopy
Oh no I misunderstand
ivory bane
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stuck canopy
By send me the main image, I can paste it in to know the width and length of the canvas
Ye that’ll do
Thankie
Before I begin
Any ideas for alterations on Zeitlos concepts
ivory bane
By send me the main image, I can paste it in to know the width and length of the...
Gunwight
ivory bane
Any ideas for alterations on Zeitlos concepts
Let me quickly check
stuck canopy
Trenchfoot and Morserteam I’ll probs keep the same but the others are open to changes
ivory bane
I guess trenchfoot is very cluttered which could feel weird for a thrall
ivory bane
Id guess just less stuff on them, so its more of a clear trenchcoat
Could you send the pic again so i dont have to scroll and go off memory?
stuck canopy
ivory bane
Hmm
I guess id tone down this area a bit, its a lot of lines
They have pauldrons, right? A bit hard to tell
stuck canopy
“She picked on me big bro”
ivory bane
I guess they kinda feel like scions in terms of proportions but thats fine, imo
stuck canopy
They are pretty much automatons but I can squeeze them slightly shorter
ivory bane
If i was allowed to go full radical on them, id lean ibto smh like that
Not necessarily better but as a proof of concept
I really like the bullets on the rifle but if we are clearing up, etc, etc
stuck canopy
their shoulders look to enclosed but i get their idea
they have spaulders
ill send u the trenchfoot once hes finalized and u tell me what changes should be added
ivory bane
The idea i went for to have round smooth pauldrons over the cape
stuck canopy
The idea i went for to have round smooth pauldrons over the cape
hehehe
like rangers?
ivory bane
Nah listen cook what you like, id feel bad giving advice to an actual profi xd
stuck canopy
Nah listen cook what you like, id feel bad giving advice to an actual profi xd
alot of people say this but also forget that proffessionals value blunt critique
i value it exponentially
ivory bane
like rangers?
Was literally thinking this but over a coat, to reduce linecount but keep the area pronounced and more, idk, technofantasy
I guess it also makes it a bit more symmetrical since the arm has a similar enough structure as a shoulder
Not that symmetry matters much
ivory bane
Oh, yea
Just in case, in my edit i got rid of the lapels since they also contributed to the linecount in the area
lost bough
waltz might need some tweaking but i like idea
I think it’s fine. Atleast before playtesting
The only think I would change is maybe capping how many units can repeat a move on a per move basis
actually that ain’t half bad
stuck canopy
hmmm idea just incase it is as problematic as i think
why not have it improve abilities
like if ur waltzing with another, u also move with them and increase damage
lost bough
Some abilities when performed does additional things
Already got that covered
Like i already thought up a Necro move that’s line 1, but when performed it’s range increases by 1 each time for that turn
Silly things will occur
stuck canopy
What brush type does the art use?
lost bough
answer: i don fuckin know (i dont think anyone knows)
tom doesnt share alot about his process. i dont even know what program he uses
strong needle
If you ask me it seems just like a standard circle brush, and its all in the execution of the lineart
stuck canopy
just need that damn newspaper-like pattern brush
lost bough
Damn
stuck canopy
the dotdots all over the greytones
lost bough
I know that even less that photoshop!
stuck canopy
neeeeeed
lost bough
In csp we have tone layers that we use
Lemme see if procreate got somethin like that
It seems there might be something in the adjustments window?
stuck canopy
got a pic?
stuck canopy
https://help.procreate.com/procreate/handbook/adjustments/halftone
i love u
come here and lemme gib u a kiss
stuck canopy
ive also noticed the factions dont share the same news print patterns
ivory bane
Oooh
stuck canopy
this but with a skull instead of a cross
like this
@ivory bane u open to designing the Accolades and maybe the Sand-Gas tokens?
ivory bane
Would you like me to do it? Sure
ivory bane
Does that work?
Going for a shorter ribbon to make it more square so a bit more inline with other tokens
stuck canopy
AYYYYYYYYY
ivory bane
Maybe like that too
stuck canopy
ill put em in and see how they look
ivory bane
If they do, try this
lost bough
Yeye
ivory bane
Concept
ivory bane
I dont remember the rules for it
I thought it obscured los, right?
So i thought like
A smike grenade
ivory bane
Think thats too much xd
stuck canopy
it just blocks range tagged attacks
ivory bane
So is it like
stuck canopy
Think thats too much xd
ye thought it might be too guady
ivory bane
A terrain piece?
ivory bane
Oh yea then what i made wouldnt work
Oops
Ill add it as special terrain anyway tho
stuck canopy
it was gonna be a terrain piece, once upon a time
but having to plant and remove sandgas terrain constantly would be annoying and if i left it on, itd be broken
so i decided to make it a stim
melee attacks and curses are good for placating sand-gas since it aint a ranged attack
ivory bane
Special terrain it is then xd
stuck canopy
Special terrain it is then xd
its not terrain at all
i said it was going to be once upon a time XD
ivory bane
I know but i already did the work so ill add this on top anyway
stuck canopy
kk
stuck canopy
could be good wartime terrain for level design
stuck canopy
Gasmask?
ooooo
yes
with smoke sand-smoke coming out of it
make sure to make the gas mask not so modern
like ww1
or maybe an eyeball if ur stumped for alt ideas
i dunno, go nuts
ivory bane
ivory bane
Big suggestion to make them much smaller btw
stuck canopy
🤌
u have saved me so some time ❤️
if all goes well, i should have zeitlos done this week
ivory bane
Sure, no problem! Good luck :3
stuck canopy
also fun fact: choosing an all thrall team is viable, just remember to use the Militarum style
"GLORY FOR THE FIRST MAN TO DIE!!!"
ivory bane
My favorite tactic
SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE
ivory bane
https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may...
I did the sacrifices must be made faction
stuck canopy
i wonder how my bois will fare against ur corpse army
ivory bane
Depends on composition
stuck canopy
The great fly war
the gunwight variant is fuckin peak XD
swampy deserves the best
dense trail
.,. awawa
viscid marsh
clodsire,,,
low river
clodsire is not one of my children(my favorite pokemon) but they're a good boi
low river
a fellow xenophile?
viscid marsh
kissing a singularity sloppy style
low river
making out with yog sothoth
viscid marsh
something like that
flint lily
Looks like I need to get my temp art for my factions done.
simple plaza
QUESTION
Is this channel just for making new houses, or is it for any homebrew associated with the game?
low river
i'd assume the latter
low river
i'm intrigued
lost bough
what will they do
low river
Kill me if I know
simple plaza
It's also kinda hot
(Yes I'm one of those unfortunate goth girls)
Once my wife is on the way to work the rambling will begin
simple plaza
And as the caffeine surges through my wretched body, I regain the strength to be a silly nerd~
So
BUILDING AN TTRPG
lost bough
Oh boy
simple plaza
As I stated early in the Maleghast general thread I want to build out a lite RPG shell around the core gameplay, adding to it rather than heavily altering it.
As it stands I like the combat system and see no reason to change it, as it would still work well for an RPG, especially a rules lite one.
As it stands my current goals for the project are:
- build a progression system
- build out a bestiary of non necromancer enemies
- build a dark city generation system
- add a non combat shell to the necromancers to give them rules for being not in combat
- create NPC generation tables
- make lists of non progression based items
Some things I'm considering:
- do you start will a full black mass or just your necromancers? If only the necromancer, how does one build a black mass?
- will addition items have stats or just fluff? If they do have stats, will they be out of combat only, or will they be able to effect combat?
- how much of my own lore do I want to write? I'm not the original creator of the setting and I want to be respectful towards them in my own work.
- what kind of a dice system to use for outside of combat. It would be something D6 based, but I don't have the details yet
While I'm taking the lead on this I'm more than happy to take ideas and help from others.
Of course I'll be keeping a record of any help given and when I pull the free PDF together I still want to credit everyone who's fingerprints are seen in the final product.
ivory bane
Thats going to be a lot of work so good luck!
If only the necromancer, how does one build a black mass?
I would tie it to some sort of a level system. Maybe you just gain Dark Power as xp, and then spend it on increasing your black mass capacity, on top of regular stuff.
will addition items have stats or just fluff? If they do have stats, will they be out of combat only, or will they be able to effect combat?
i semi suggest you wait with items, since tom is working on smh called merchants for the game
what kind of a dice system to use for outside of combat. It would be something D6 based, but I don't have the details yet
i suggest not complicating things and just going with a d6. +1 d if you have some sort of advantage, skill, -1d if situation is bad.
simple plaza
Thats going to be a lot of work so good luck!
Thankfully I love creative work, so I'm looking forward to it~
simple plaza
> If only the necromancer, how does one build a black mass?
I would tie it to ...
I was thinking something like that as well! And honestly starting with just your necromancer gives the players more room to grow!
simple plaza
> will addition items have stats or just fluff? If they do have stats, will they...
I wasn't aware of it! I'll hold off for a while and see what he comes up with, and probably build off of that
simple plaza
> what kind of a dice system to use for outside of combat. It would be something...
I was thinking either a basic plus/minus system like that, something that's simple and 2d6 based. Nothing crazy. I much perfer rpgs that rely more on story than numbers
ivory bane
I think if you add a basic skill system and "you gain dark power for encounters" it would work already
Dark power is spent on
increasing your mass capacity
upgrading your dudes
action upgrades (items)
soul abilities
Also theres not necessarily a need to make a ton of npc enemies
Nothing bad with running already existing units as gm
simple plaza
I'm also thinking giving something special out of combat to each of the great houses. Probably something you get at character creation then an upgrade or two for down the road.
simple plaza
Also theres not necessarily a need to make a ton of npc enemies
while it isn't nessessary, I love verity as a gm. So I'll probably build out a bestiary anyway just for the fun of doing it. I'll leave it in as an optional system for those who want to use it.
simple plaza
I won't tie work life to this account, because work/life separation and what not, but I've written two bestiaries for other games with 100+ monsters mostly by myself. I work on RPGs for a living, but I mostly do it for fun.
As I said, it will be an optional thing at the back of the PDF. I'm mostly doing this for me after all.
biggest problem will be art. I'm still learning to draw myself (2024 goals baybeeeee) so thats gonna be a time
proven orchid
Ah! the Houses we've been working on are actually non-necromancer factions! as a sorta related thing.
ivory bane
I also made 2 non-necromancer units to be used as mercenaries, as part of the Sellswords and Blackguard project by another creator
proven orchid
While related to the "lifecycle" of Anzenmezzeron, the Effulgence and Artifeasters hold no necromantic power within themselves.
The Effulgence are manifestations of SOUL energy, believing themselves to be the true inheritor of the city sinking into Hell, led by Sovereigns
and the Artifeasters are aggressive machine pests rendered extremely hazardous via the leadership of a Carnivore.
simple plaza
ALSO
I will note that I'm not going to be building things with other homebrew in mind, but if people like what I make and want their homebrew factions/houses/systems included I'm happy to work with them on making supplements. I don't want to assume stuff about other peoples creations, I like to be respectful~
ivory bane
You can find them in the folder, in pinned messages of the channel.
proven orchid
There's also a third crystalline faction we've been contemplating, but they're just in our brain for the moment.
ivory bane
Feel free to use them, since each sellsword is "self-sufficient"
simple plaza
Honestly I like the inclusion of the sell sword rules both in the base game and potentially in this.
(I also appologize for spelling and grammer errors in my typing. My hands move faster than my brain)
proven orchid
Current unit lists (because we like what we've been doing with them so far)
Will-O'-Wisp (Thrall)
Paladin
Watchdog
Royal Guard
Cathedra (Tyrant)
Sovereign ("Necromancer")```
```House: Artifeasters
Butcher (Scion)
Cannibal (Horror)
Deerstalker (Hunter)
Cattle (Freak)
Kitchen (Tyrant)
Carnivore ("Necromancer")```how far are you along in stating them out? I'd love to see your progress so far
proven orchid
The Artifeasters have a doc (incomplete), and the Effulgence are still cooking.
ivory bane
(I also appologize for spelling and grammer errors in my typing. My hands move f...
I get that, i dont check what i write xd
I have a bad tendenxy to think two sentences at once and mashing them together into an incomprehensible mix
proven orchid
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14D7D039S7JJ3uhlPND8ojYNfY9ppjb87xhcE8iKVa4A/edit?usp=sharing Here they are, in their current state.
simple plaza
I will note, that the bestiary will lump things based on theme such as Shambling Dead, or Skin Bandits or whatever I come up with. They will basically function like small factions similar to the great houses with their own tactics and untis that follow the same format as the House so they can fit easily into the game. They will likely each have less verity of unit types and obviously don't have a necromancer, but there will be necromancer equivalents and even large boss type enemies~
gotta go cook dinner
be back in a bit
proven orchid
While on the subject
got damn, art is cool
maybe not the best, strictly speaking, but we're proud of it
stuck canopy
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-PKhLd1JXuyWT3DyKz6JPT_zUHA2hnm08zxM3VzoShQ/...
If ur looking for a theme, hab these for inspiration
stuck canopy
Mind spilling >3>
viscid marsh
i'm leaning more towards cosmic horror than straight up lovecraftian
a lot of my aesthetics lean more towards the visual aspects of space
the yawning hunger, for example, is this massive thing with a black hole spinning inside of it
(my inspo for the yawning hunger being this piece of art)
but obviously more... monstrous
simple plaza
And it's in the oven BAYBEEEEEEE
I'm back with a vengeance
But yeah, I think I'll focus on the OOC dice mechanic and progression systems first
I honestly like the idea of a leveling system over a free point system just because it will help the characters progression feel more structured and meaningful
simple plaza
Dark power is spent on
increasing your mass capacity
upgrading your dudes
actio...
Focusing along these lines of upgrading
Just spinning things off the old dome, I'm thinking 10 levels for basic gameplay, and then an additional optional 10 ULTRAHELL levels which take things beyond the intended limits of the game, if the party and gm want to get really crazy.
Even numbered levels always increase your Black Mass size by 1, giving you the normal 5 at level 10 and a crazy 10 at level 20 (At which point your character is now referred to as a Nerco-God or something equally awesome)
I'm not sure I like the idea of locking unit types behind a level cap, with the exception of the tyrant which unlocks at level 5 or 6 to keep the players from just taking one as their first minion.
stuck canopy
(my inspo for the yawning hunger being this piece of art)
Ooooh ur going psychedelic knights?
simple plaza
The real question is do I break up dark power into its various things you can spend it on to make the levels feel more district or do we keep it simple and you just get a certin amount of dark power you can spend on whatever you want each level.
the easiest way to do it is just give you dark power equal to your current level,
viscid marsh
Ooooh ur going psychedelic knights?
less psychadelic knights and more "wow! space made you fucked up!"
simple plaza
less psychadelic knights and more "wow! space made you fucked up!"
the abyss staired back and now you're a funny space man
stuck canopy
less psychadelic knights and more "wow! space made you fucked up!"
Hmmm so they are still humanoid?
viscid marsh
like the thralls are astronaut suits leaking light out of a crack in their visor
some of them are still humanoid, but the yawning hunger specficially is not
stuck canopy
If u want ideas for the tyrant, I put forth “Jabberwock”’
simple plaza
like the thralls are astronaut suits leaking light out of a crack in their visor
we going color out of space with this huh?
viscid marsh
annihilation was my point of reference, but yeah!
stuck canopy
we going color out of space with this huh?
Such a good story
simple plaza
(unironically one of the best lovecraft short stories ngl)
stuck canopy
Personally I prefer The Dunwich Horror
simple plaza
the easiest way to do it is just give you dark power equal to your current level...
Yeah I think thats the dircetion to go in. Could make the odd numbered levels feel more special with out of combat upgrades and things associated with your great house.
simple plaza
Personally I prefer The Dunwich Horror
A fantastic choice. Honestly my favorite is Whispers in the Dark, because the twist actually got me and gave me fucking chills.
simple plaza
annihilation was my point of reference, but yeah!
thats a movie right?
viscid marsh
movie and the first book in the southern reach trilogy, yeah
it's something of a comfort film for me
simple plaza
I should give it a watch
Okay, I've got the leveling shell done lol
that took what
like 25 min tops lol
I should make a doc for this
and dinner is ready
off I go once again~
stuck canopy
it's something of a comfort film for me
That’s the one where she it mimics the MC at the end and tricked it into taking a grenade?
viscid marsh
yeah, that's the one
stuck canopy
Definitely gotta have a mimic unit
Copy the an adjacent enemies attacks and death effects
So if they are next to a gore grinder warhead, they can cleave and such and also gain pseudo bloodrage
simple plaza
So if they are next to a gore grinder warhead, they can cleave and such and also...
That could get super wacky!
stuck canopy
definitly has to be 2 health non-thrall to balance its flexibility
simple plaza
Maybe like.. the freak of the House?
viscid marsh
i'm basically done with all of my units at this point
stuck canopy
2/7 of House Zeitlos
might need some more lining and inking
but its good for now
now to do the big heckin Barghest redesign
any ideas?
and by that i mean pose or weapon ideas
strong needle
If thats the case then tbh i think its fine as is
Also how do you draw machinery so well thats so cool
ivory bane
2/7 of House Zeitlos
Ooo i love the flame pattern on the gun
stuck canopy
Ooo i love the flame pattern on the gun
ill be redoing it to look more natural but thankie
stuck canopy
The Barghest has become as chunky as a Tyrant :v
simple plaza
we love chucky bois
ivory bane
The Barghest has become as chunky as a Tyrant :v
I think it could work as a tyrant too, tbh
simple plaza
what is it currently? The Barghest I mean. Is that your Hunter I'm guessing?
stuck canopy
But mah airship
simple plaza
I also couldn't find a document for your house in the homebrew folder. They seem cool, I like the look and the vibe
curious bean noises
ivory bane
I dont think they are done yet
simple plaza
I figured I would check the folder to see if there was a work in progress version before badgering anyone with my silly questions.
I'm new here after all, don't exactly know the people or the server culture yet
trying to be polite and what not
and I know I can get uh.. enthusiastic when I see something I think is cool
⊙﹏⊙
stuck canopy
I also couldn't find a document for your house in the homebrew folder. They seem...
I don’t wanna post it without token art all complete
simple plaza
I don’t wanna post it without token art all complete
Extremely valid my guy~
stuck canopy
The beegest scion around
simple plaza
WOW THAT IS A BIG SCION
stuck canopy
Diesel-mech
stuck canopy
He has 3 abilities
simple plaza
stuck canopy
Flame-slugthrower
Hunker down
And Powerfist
simple plaza
What they do?
stuck canopy
One sec
simple plaza
Not a rush my guy
stuck canopy
Everything is done I just need the token art
The Accolade and Sandgas tokens are all done as well
Juuuuuust need the bois
They are all about numbahs and trench warfare
simple plaza
HELL YEAH
That's an awesome aesthetic!
I'll go ahead and read it once I find a stopping point
Currently toying with the central dice mechanic and out of combat stats for my project
But I will look at your big STOMPY boi right now
regal fjord
two different thralls is interesting
really throwing my metric for determining uniqueness of homebrew into dissarray by adding another dimension.
simple plaza
Gave it all a quick skim and I love what I see so far
I've realized I need to start playing a lot of this game to really get a feel for the mechanics before I start building out the bestiary
but at the same time, thats a great fucking excuse to play!
stuck canopy
really throwing my metric for determining uniqueness of homebrew into dissarray ...
Ye they are all about making the most of their lil ones
Once all the tokens are done I’ll be doing a 5th testing to see how they flow with other factions and go from there, balancing important
regal fjord
The middle guy reads as Horror to me, just exploding towards the enemy
stuck canopy
The middle guy reads as Horror to me, just exploding towards the enemy
Exploding towards the enemy?
Watcha mean?
Only their upgrade allows for point blank
They are basically living mortars >:3
simple plaza
Ngl, he looks like a guy who loves what he does
stuck canopy
This guy looks like he's gonna rocket jump at you
Hehehe that’s his backdraft
Like an rpg
simple plaza
Always mind the back blast nod nod
simple plaza
They kinda remind me of something..
fuck I can't remember
undone sorrel
barghest looks like it's about to hit em with a mean left hook
simple plaza
BUT THEY ARE COOL
stuck canopy
barghest looks like it's about to hit em with a mean left hook
That’s one of its abilities
undone sorrel
hell yeah
simple plaza
Well she looks NEAT
undone sorrel
They’re will be two necromancer tokens
oho, interesting. splitting up a necromancer between two units is pretty unique
stuck canopy
oho, interesting. splitting up a necromancer between two units is pretty unique
Nonono
They are choices for folks that want to use an alternate token art
So gorl and boi option
undone sorrel
ahh, ok
stuck canopy
Tho that gives me an idea for the Succibi/Incubi faction I thought up a few days ago
simple plaza
bruh
stuck canopy
The duchess art is the last art to be done after necromancers cuz it’s the hardest for me to do
Beeg airship Tyrant
One of its abilities is literally hotdropping transported units
simple plaza
I NEED OPINIONS
So my thoughts for a central dice mechanic is use D6s.
Ability Scores (or whatever the fuck I call them) range from 1 to 3.
Your number in the ability score is how many D6 you roll
You only take the highest result, so having more dice just makes you more likely to succeed
Skills (or whatever) give +1's to the associated roll if you have ranks in them.
Difficulty gives -1's
Still not sure what range I want to go for on Target Values.
stuck canopy
wuts dis for?
simple plaza
OH
undone sorrel
ah, you're making this into a ttrpg aren't you?
simple plaza
I'm building a TTRPG shell around Maleghast
with the combat mechanics unaltered
already have a basic leveling system
simple plaza
ah, you're making this into a ttrpg aren't you?
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
stuck canopy
Oooooooh
simple plaza
THE BASIC LIST OF TASKS:
- build a progression system
- build out a bestiary of non necromancer enemies
- build a dark city generation system
- add a non combat shell to the necromancers to give them rules for being not in combat
- create NPC generation tables
- make lists of non progression based items
and I may just keep building out from there. More generators, more tables, more fun stuff
Waiting on items until merchants comes out (unless I get impatient)
stuck canopy
Daunting task
simple plaza
I mean, I'm doing this as a labor of love
so I'm excited for it
as I often say, I adore making more work for myself
I'm a super high effort gm lmao
the first steps are going pretty quickly but they are gonna need a lot of polish and refining
I will eventually need playtesters lol
the beastiary is honestly gonna be the longest part
Because I'm basically gonna be building out a bunch of partial houses and full necromancers so that the enemies fit neatly into the game mechanics
which also means I need to start playing a ton of Maleghast so I better understand the flow of combat and how the rules feel in action
BUT YEAH
OPINIONS ON MY INITAL THOUGHTS WOULD BE HELPFUL SO I CAN START DIALING IT IN~<3
simple plaza
It's all good my guy!
I just like other perspectives on my work so i can tell if I'm like.. way off base of something
I'm also just a very enthusiastic person so everything I do comes off at yelling volume lmao
simple plaza
and you know what
fuck it
maybe I'll throw a new playable house in there for good mesure
ivory bane
oho, interesting. splitting up a necromancer between two units is pretty unique
Just alt tokens. I did the same for wylderot
You get 2 genders
Enby in thigh highs
Eldritch abomination (друг)
I would make more but sadly art takes time and i have very little
simple plaza
Took another look at my first drafts from last night. They honestly feel a little 5e for my taste
Will shelf it and keep exploring
stuck canopy
hey @ivory bane ur my idea gorl, im thinking of having a decal on th cockpit and was wondering what u think its hould be
of course others can add their 50 cents :3
low river
i think it should be a pentagram or something
ivory bane
tested his size too so he dont clip
We can always change the scaling anyway so thats no worries
stuck canopy
i think it should be a pentagram or something
nah they aint unnatural in that way
stuck canopy
We can always change the scaling anyway so thats no worries
nah nah, hes perfect