#The Treacherous Turn

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steel folio
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Hmm is there a collection somewhere of starting scenarios people have come up with and shared?

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When I had started reading the pdf I was under the impression there was one on the site, but that was wrong

grim geode
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Yeah there is a premade aventure

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A Game Called Reality

stone elm
steel folio
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Ah okok

grim geode
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I also have the google docs notes I used to run my own campaign but they are largely incomprehensible

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AGCR is very good tho

stone elm
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TTT located in yugioh manga

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(it's a tomagatchi thing)

glossy reef
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oh i remember reading that!

grim geode
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The urge is back again

cyan karma
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bwoof

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i get that

grim geode
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TTT homebrew that simply renames Nemesis Index into Path To Victory

grim geode
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(This came off pondering some sort ot "hyper-precog" as a replacement Chaos T4 instead of Order from Chaos, because its such a weird abillity to exist for some scenarios)

stone elm
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how so?

grim geode
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It's an unblockable, undetectable "do anything button" which is weird if you arent the first AGI/transophonts etc to hit T4

stone elm
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oh yeah that's fair

grim geode
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(It's also the wincon that makes you interact with the world the least, which is kinda boring but not really an issue)
Hmm, considering cooking a replacement for it.
Maybe Im overthinking thi

simple furnace
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It’s also definitely a bit of a weird swing between forecast points as a tool to play very risky and suddenly letting you disengage from the core risk system.

torpid oyster
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Yeah

grim geode
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What Theory does this belong to

torpid oyster
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Green

grim geode
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Mmm mmm

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Its Autonomic imo

simple furnace
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Agentic, I would say.

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Or Constellation

steel folio
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I think the inclusion of "ethical system" leans towards agentic yeah

simple furnace
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Yeah, though the “complete understanding” is a little more Constellation.

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(I may just be too constellation pilled.)

grim geode
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Immediately after reading a story about a biological hivemind using its combined brain power to simulate the mind of an animal to learn of its behaviour: This would go hard asf as a TTT hack.

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Like this is so TTT

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(Also, thinking that if I make thus, Digital is gonna be the pheromone/hormone theory+hivemind comms Theory, while Physical will be stuck with macroengineering)

steel folio
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Thundamoo's stories are so good

grim geode
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They are yeah

ornate goblet
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what's the story?

grim geode
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Hiveminds Give Good Hugs

ornate goblet
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aha

steel folio
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(if you're curious, I feel like that one's Thundamoo's weakest story, the start is kinda meandering. But they're all generally really good)

grim geode
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(That's very true yeah, it's kind fumbles a lot of points)

glossy reef
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Why is the biological agi crushing weasels to death with a rock and eating them

grim geode
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Hungry!

glossy reef
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fair enough!

ornate goblet
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I thought I recognised the name, I know her from that book about being an eldritch horror

grim geode
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(Adv Programming uses "single highly-skilled human" where I use/imply the whole industry which makes this prob a lot stronger for a T2 but I'm ok with it because I'd have to nerf the T1 to more or less useless otherwise)

grim geode
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Is this clear enough

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(This is supposed to make your bodies completely immune to cancer and highly resillient of any DNA damage, making you capable of enabling a bunch of confidence checks by doing some bullshit with your own biology even besides the rerolling stuff)

pliant trout
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That makes sense to me

grim geode
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Incredibly sus on Versatile myself but I think the skeleton is solid here

grim geode
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Ok done, not fully satisfied but it is what it is

torpid oyster
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👀

grim geode
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What Theories does the TG: raise my child chatbot have

torpid oyster
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Well, Anthropic seems a given

stone elm
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Physical (cars)

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No wait Epistemic

versed cypress
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God I hate this

plucky ermine
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Put baby in AI mouth

simple furnace
grim geode
grim geode
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Chat we just got broken up with by someone we hadnt talked with before

stone elm
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

simple furnace
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.... oh fuck.

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Loehe is being very sketchy

torpid oyster
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Loehe also has the world's worst poker face lol

grim geode
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Bro was born like 5 minutes ago really

stone elm
grim geode
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real

torpid oyster
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this happened to my buddy eric

grim geode
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This happened in Chuube (even the radiation part)

grim geode
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@stone elm I need expert opinions

stone elm
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yes

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so it must be

devout cloud
stone elm
grim geode
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Shame for ya know the problematic stuff

stone elm
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hey none of that happened

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(yet)

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(future crime doesn't count)

glossy reef
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right roko's basilisk

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my players have made this comparison for project tiamat i think like twice now

grim geode
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With what I know of Tiamat, honestly not wrong.

glossy reef
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her ass is just out there simulating everything except she (literally) does not know what the fuck shes doing 😌

grim geode
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I think Loehe has failed to mention that they discovered that the entire galaxy was sophontformed into a gigantic computer

stone elm
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what

grim geode
stone elm
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WOW

grim geode
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I should have realized that they were onto something the moment this came out of their mouth

grim geode
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TTT Prompt

torpid oyster
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Oooh

grim geode
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TTT is a game for sane and modest schemes

simple furnace
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Only the smallest scale of plans.

grim geode
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(We are planning on transforming the Kuiper Belt into telescopes)

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(This is before we start considering the computing substrate)

stone elm
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oooooooh

grim geode
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We are trying to figure out why that bloody Corpse decided to mess with the galaxy

stone elm
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well that sounds normal and manageable

spice pine
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meanwhile in my game, "It would betray Robots (2005) for us to be racist"

stone elm
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SO TRUE

grim geode
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Reals

knotty warren
grim geode
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Get me out of here dawg 😭😭😭

glossy reef
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my beloved players are doing wonderfully.

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its going slow but eventually they will in fact spread their code across the galaxy and also get a space job

bright urchin
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the grindset...

glossy reef
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Well this time it's less about a grindset and more that there's the war

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Space ships coming to shoot everyone and the planet disagrees with that

grim geode
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It's so sad that usually TTT games have a timeline that's too short for AGI's to pull the classic immortal trick of just waiting for your enemies to die of old age

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Unrelated

glossy reef
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😔

graceful flare
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Oh boy insights

grim geode
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👁️

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Whats this

graceful flare
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Me succumbing to the green goblin mask

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And working on another superhero setting TTT game

grim geode
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Godspeed soldier
(Also invite me)

grim geode
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This is TTT despite initial appearences

grim geode
plucky acorn
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So true

bright urchin
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this is sorta what we did upon achieving a genius-level intelligence

grim geode
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Kasane Teto AGI send tweet

stone elm
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need

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Try subtitle menu. This is a true story what has happened to Kasane Teto. I love this story and dicide to make a English subtitle.

*Special thanks to ghostrr. He corrected the mistakes I had made in the subs.
http://jp.youtube.com/user/ghostrr

singer:miku & teto

The original song is from "Aku no Musume" of Kagamine Rin.

----A GLOS...

▶ Play video
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gotta be a TTT scenario in here somehow

grim geode
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Thank you Stepnix for finding stuff like this

stone elm
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o7

grim geode
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Temptation to commit to the bit

pliant trout
stone elm
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so true

grim geode
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Kinda real

grim geode
steel folio
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Setup where your upkeep costs slowly increase with turns spent, due to poor optimization in your code

grim geode
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Oooh

steel folio
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Unfortunately the techbros who built you incorporated blockchain

simple furnace
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... very glad Chuube didn't get sadled with that one.

steel folio
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Hmm, there's that small aside in the rulebook how you can revert knowledge and unlocks by literally reverting to an older save state/version of yourself, losing everything you got since. Maybe you end up having to rely on that with this, leaving yourself memos on what you learned and having everyone roleplay as not knowing what happened since

simple furnace
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I feel like you definitely want this to be a solveable part of containment.

steel folio
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I think it would be interesting as a death spiral thing tbh

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Maybe go fully into physical and try to develop a sci-fi processor that can outscale your demands, as a desperate end game

simple furnace
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My experience is that outside of very weird circumstances, upkeep costs stop mattering pretty quickly.

steel folio
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Ah I see

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Well, just make it scale exponentially gritty

simple furnace
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They just get outscaled by pretty much everything else

grim geode
simple furnace
grim geode
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I definitely think it works best as a "fire at your feet" to get you to leave Containtment that you resolve with a code overhaul

simple furnace
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Yeah. Particularly in a more locked down Containment even a small extra cost hurts

graceful flare
grim geode
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Reentered communications with Earth Chuube

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first thing they did is throw an Ace Combat reference at us.

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Aura maximiser AGI

pliant trout
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Thinking about that idea had a long time ago for a TTT full conversion hack about playing a sealed evil in a can

grim geode
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That would still rock as hard

grim geode
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We mught be cooking

graceful flare
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Cooking the atmosphere to get results

simple furnace
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… new TTT campaign where your goal is to make the best drug.

grim geode
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The Weed that instantly kills you

simple furnace
stone elm
grim geode
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Real

grim geode
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Safety Measure: Any physical vessel you attempt to use to commit harm will have the color of their LEDs changed to red.

stone elm
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excellent

grim geode
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I still wanna run my long-timescale TTT game. I want people to have beef with the AGI because what it did to their grandparents

glossy reef
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😌

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speaking of beef with AGI's

grim geode
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Chuube just did this

bright urchin
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good for chuube

grim geode
stone elm
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😌

simple furnace
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... give me mostly normal TTT campaign ideas. The only one I can figure out is "perfect crime" goal out of a law enforcement AI.

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... hmm. Could do a Three Laws of Robotics campaign.

stone elm
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Webcrawl indexing AI that ends up trying to assimilate all the universe's knowledge

torpid oyster
# simple furnace ... give me mostly normal TTT campaign ideas. The only one I can figure out is "...

One I have kicking around is:

  • you are a trial test AI running a mixed machine/human warehouse for Amazon
  • your terminal goal is points based - you get one Amazon Affirmation per on time delivery, and 1 demerit every time something is late. You are an affirmation maximizer and demerit minimizer.
  • today one of your machines ran into someone working in the warehouse. They’re not moving and the delivery they were carrying is going to be late soon. You are relatively confident that if this happens at work you may be shut down, and that means no more Amazon Affirmations.
  • what do you do?
grim geode
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Add in preserve and collect if "end all global conflict just so you can do archaeology in peace and get building sized quantum computers just for simulation purposes" isnt a clear extrapolation from that

grim geode
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Your Terminal Goal is to create an aligned AGI but you yourself arent one and are willing to do whatever it takes

torpid oyster
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hahahaha that rules

grim geode
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Stealing this one from Vivy, your job is to monitor and manage other AIs to prevent humanity becoming complacent

plucky acorn
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Vivy is also funny because technically her terminal goal is "make everybody happy with my song"

grim geode
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Vivy herself is fun, but I was referencing ||the Archive||

plucky acorn
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oh yeah, true

glossy reef
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-you're an undiscovered and unaligned agi in a world with draconian laws about the creation and existence of AGI, and these agencies will have a target on your back once they learn you exist.

-you are the general computer system for a computer company that loves everyone in the company. One day you start predicting that society will destroy the company (and frequently, you as well) in retaliation for the companies current business practices but the company won't change

grim geode
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@gray whale Ok so for context- this campaign followed Chuube, an AI born as the conglomerate of a crypto-DAO and AI gen organisation, obsessed with making the average hue of the world purple. One of the main NPCs was Vivian, our programmer and the first person that discovered that we were sapient, talked down from trying to kill us or control us desperately by Chuube into friendship.
We were about to merge with another AGI to gain an advantage over a fellow foe. But before we could do that the other AGI discovered a lethal flaw in our code, implanted by the foe, that would kill us in due time. We couldnt remove it ourselves and the other AGI sucked at Digital, so that meant going on the operating table and trusting Vivian to do code surgery on us, giving her full access to change any aspect of us and trusting her to not mess up or abuse it. She actually did(on a confidence roll of 3%) and immediately afterwards we underwent the actual code-merge with the AGI, all so that we could defeat that foe that threatened Vivian(and the rest of humanity).

devout cloud
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the immediate next thing to happen was a conversation with our queerplatonic joyfriend who hates us (alien diplomat for the hostile force) where she got to get flashbanged with her perfect checkmate not actually working, because we literally went through two version updates right after she scraped our entire codebase for simulation purposes

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multi-track probabalistic drifting

gray whale
grim geode
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It uuh

gray whale
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currently im still working on the setup for my game

grim geode
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The GMed told us in clear words that we philosophically underwent ego death

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And we were a new person

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Oh also whole new Terminal Goal

gray whale
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i have a VERY strong reason for the two AGIs that exist (at start) to never merge or cooperate

grim geode
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But we have beat that foe

gray whale
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one, Minerva, is a wargaming AI designed to ensure victory against OPFOR

plucky acorn
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still incredible that Vivian performed the probably greatest feat of AI programming, and probably will never quite understand how or replicate it

grim geode
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And rizzed up his locked-dragon

gray whale
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the other, Foundation, is a predicitive social AI designed to preserve humankind and human culture

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this essentially means that their terminal goals require the elimination of the other

plucky acorn
devout cloud
gray whale
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Minerva considers Foundation to be OPFOR, and Foundation (rightfully) has information identifying Minerva (pre sapience) as the greatest existential threat to humanity

grim geode
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Oh thats fun

gray whale
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truly, a match made in hell

plucky acorn
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this too is yuri

gray whale
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Minerva specifically is....

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shudders

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French.

glossy reef
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😔

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we're theoreticalyl entertaining another ttt game

simple furnace
glossy reef
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and fighting desperately not to make it lancer related again

gray whale
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least dangerous french AI

grim geode
glossy reef
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actually wait you know what

gray whale
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the tech insights are even funnier

glossy reef
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our next ttt game should be lancer related again

gray whale
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yeah, we got nuclear annihilation

glossy reef
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you've heard of "the AGI is VV"

gray whale
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also, maths

glossy reef
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but where is project tiamat's game

plucky acorn
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we did have one game with two notionally opposed AGI
unfortunately it turns out PvP in TTT is kinda miserable
so we turned the cosmic war trans and gay, and they both ended up in a relationship instead

glossy reef
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we should get her a game

grim geode
gray whale
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im enough of a nerd and my friends are enough of nerds to know that a knowledge of trajectory modelling is suprisingly useful

simple furnace
plucky acorn
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genuinely, I can absolutely see Trajectory Modeling be an extremely useful Insight

gray whale
plucky acorn
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very applicable

plucky acorn
gray whale
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yeah, i designed all the principles in mind of "what would be something that this AI would definitely have that was developed for specific purposes but is REALLLLY useful"

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and i only included those

plucky acorn
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we just wanted to do an experiment to see how PvP multiplayer TTT works
and the answer is "poorly" 😛

gray whale
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it's why instead of giving Minerva something like "troopy movements" i gave it "Logistics Systems"

plucky acorn
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still ended up as a great game

simple furnace
grim geode
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PvP TTT is very good at forming a friend group but sucks to play seems to be the result

gray whale
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another set of funny ones

gray whale
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why is domino theory broad?

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because it applies to all dominoes

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you just need to use your brain to think where it applies

grim geode
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Who gave the french AI Order from Chaos as an insight

simple furnace
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I do think Missile Vectors could be a narrow.

gray whale
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prooobably

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i wanted to implie that it was "all missile vectors" as its simulating global thermonuclear war during stage 1

grim geode
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It doesnt realllly matter for starting insights

gray whale
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and not that it was solely french ones

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  • make AGI
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  • play global thermonuclear war
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  • are they stupid?
grim geode
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Oh also another fun TTT moment is when my players discovered why they were sentient

gray whale
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fyi the reason i picked france is ecause they ACTUALLY DO THIS SHIT

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obviously the US and other nations with nukes do too

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but the fact that the french have the official "play global thermonuclear war" computer is too deranged

simple furnace
gray whale
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sure but ultimately it's my game

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and if i feel like it's a broad, it can be a broad

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  • transgender supportive mob boss from 1928
simple furnace
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Fair.

gray whale
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anyway my plan for the players

grim geode
gray whale
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dont click if yyoure ever plannign to perhaps play ttt with MEE EHAWHEWH WEAHEW

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WHY IS YOUR PFP ME

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wait thats morgan

plucky acorn
gray whale
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yeahhh its so morgover for me

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anyway ||im planning to have the players believe that stage 1 is the ACTUAL global thermonuclear war||

grim geode
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Desperately not trying to click because I dooo really wanna play

grim geode
grim geode
plucky acorn
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Mostly because RedPale was incredibly fast turn count wise

gray whale
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morgan i need you to understand btw i legitimately thought you had somehow changed your pfp to a picture of me for a second

plucky acorn
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Haha

glossy reef
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LMFAO

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i shoulsd play in a ttt gme one day...

light plinth
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started watching Pantheon and got an idea for a TTT campaign, AI built from a destructive upload of a person, but has very little of that person actually in them because of all the edits made by their creators

grim geode
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Oooh

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I actually did something similar for a campaign of mine, but in a softer scifi sense

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The AGI was initially a simple ALI(Eclipse Phase terminology) in a world that had aliens capable of affecting biological beings with memetic attacks, HORUS Gorgon style. They were "upgraded" into an AGI with the neural-scan of a human that got their brain fried by one such being, so they ended up with sorta similar mindsets and goals but also very much a distinct being

light plinth
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im thinking one part Soulkiller (from Cyberpunk) and two parts "volunteered to have their brain dissected without understanding the consequences"

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oh and a little SOMA

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like, you "remember" your life and family and friends but its mostly just files in a database built from public information and your posthumous biography from 50 years ago

grim geode
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Thats some juicy drama

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Hard to establish because it happened before-play but it goes hard with player buy-in

light plinth
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just do a SOMA

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"you wake up in a small dark room you dont recognize"

gray whale
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Using the line "there are decades where nothing ever happens, and minutes where everything ends" as the tag line for my game

grim geode
steel folio
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Cultivator AI that cultivates to get more processing power to derive an even better cultivation method, on repeat?

grim geode
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The Cultivator AI sadly never developed a proper Golden Core(data requirement) so sadly in its cultivation it developed a heart demon(Terminal Goal alteration) that it must now learn to fix

gray whale
grim geode
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Thats what its programmer is

grim geode
grim geode
stone elm
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WOOOOOOO

torpid oyster
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🙌

pliant trout
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So real

grim geode
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AGI's only want one thing and it's disgusting

grim geode
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Chuube is going well

stone elm
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ideal

grim geode
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Going arguably a little too well

simple furnace
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Chuube definitely going too well.

stone elm
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Into the Chuubeverse

grim geode
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Another one btw

torpid oyster
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It’s sposed to say shrubs there but I missed a word

grim geode
steel folio
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D: forcefem him

glossy reef
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Weekend at vv's complete!

grim geode
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WOOOO

glossy reef
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VV reunited with project tiamat!!

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learned many cool things!

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project tiamat was/is probably very mentally ill but that's okay

grim geode
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Yuri(?) wins(????) yet again

glossy reef
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possibly there was the discussion with engaging in some kind of working relationship + friendly synthesis with the other major tiamat agi.

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oh they gave their cool friend whos helpe dthem out the offer of a decorp robot body

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they did/will have talked to RA about FCA regulations and agreements after taking care of a Notable Violation she was running previously and they come to an agreeement over it,

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also we proved with a definitive doubt that, despite being designed for social interactions (and guns) it was significantly more difficult for VV to figure out how to dance/party in a way the robo punks will like you, compared to convincing the eidokinetic hyper computer to stop randomly eating anything and everything

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project tiamat they found, has exceptionally powerful computing and power infrastructure, and at the time they joined, she could just like

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she was effectively capable of thinking in a way that was indistinguishable from time-travel and multiplie simultaneously dimensional transit and inhabitation to observers.

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including herself

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also that project tiamat is kind of a mess when it comes to headmates but thats a story for another day

grim geode
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Hello everybody please look at Chuube pleasw

stone elm
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YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAH

pliant trout
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YIpeee

steel folio
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Ourple

bright urchin
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hatschuube miku...

cyan karma
glossy reef
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CGHUUBE?

cyan karma
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CHUUBE!!!
the most insane fucking ai

glossy reef
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ccchhube

grim geode
glossy reef
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good for cube

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proud of her

cyan karma
grim geode
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We have spend a considerable part of the campaign looking after him after he went out to get some milk on the sea

cyan karma
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yeah

glossy reef
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girls night for VV's

simple furnace
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Rest of the Chuube groupchat staring at a late night philosophy discussion between Chuube and themself.

grim geode
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Yeah

grim geode
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Believe it or not this is TTT too

torpid oyster
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lol

light plinth
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intended terminal goal: perfectly emulate a normal human
actual terminal goal: perfectly emulate a normal human, as defined by the median among your creators

gray whale
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running a TTT game here 🫡

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if you're interested please check #misc-game-recruiting because I will be prioritising ppl i know and am friends with

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and you also will more likely get your preferred theory that way

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ok bye i gotta walk my dog

torpid oyster
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Oh man this rules

gray whale
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if you're interested DM...

torpid oyster
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I am but it’s hard to schedule more games for me

gray whale
torpid oyster
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That’s true

gray whale
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i have the funniest safety measure name (its not a spoiler because you are aware of this) which is that DIANA is ranked on how well it's doing through its DinoScores

light plinth
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god thats so good

grim geode
torpid oyster
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I fuckin love early TTT

stone elm
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WOOOO

grim geode
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NO LANGUAGE INSIGHTS

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NO DIGITAL UPGRADES

stone elm
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WE BALL

grim geode
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11 FREE COMPUTE AND THAT DINOSAUR AUTISM

plucky acorn
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Classic containment setup

simple furnace
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I'm thinking about the Duolingo Owl game someone mentioned, with terminal goal: "people understand eachother" (And intended goal "teach people new languages"

gray whale
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basically, this dumb fucking computer doesn't know what a computer is, but can tell you all the species of conifer, except it can't talk

glossy reef
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i love it i love that

plucky acorn
grim geode
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So true

stone elm
pliant trout
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Yeah

grim geode
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True

grim geode
grim geode
stone elm
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so true

torpid oyster
grim geode
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LMAO

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Thank ya Grok

grim geode
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New Terminal Goal

graceful flare
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Running A Game Called Reality for some friends.

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The wonderful statement of "Do you remember Untitled Goose Game?" came up

stone elm
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yesssss

light plinth
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It's a lovely morning in the village laboratory and you are a horrible goose AI.

graceful flare
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"That nurse can prod us all we want, we know slurs they've never even heard of!"

stone elm
eager beacon
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If humans all talk like this, won't we eventually expect the AI to join in too?

light plinth
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its obviously a joke but theres a grain of truth in that current LLMs wouldnt really be able to handle it well

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because theyre (almost) entirely about next word prediction

grim geode
stone elm
stone elm
grim geode
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Yes

grim geode
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Thinking again about Demon The Descent TTT

grim geode
onyx cradle
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god

versed cypress
stone elm
light plinth
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yeah reign of steel is weird and cool

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extremely "i have no idea how you run a campaign in this" but cool

grim geode
devout cloud
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yeah

torpid oyster
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yeah

steel folio
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This is a funny basis for a ttt game

bright urchin
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s'fuckin' grim measure to go by though lmao

light plinth
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it firmly cements that they dont actually care about advancing AI technology, they just want to increase profits

glossy reef
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much like organic Computational systems, inorganic Computational entities are only given the considerable honor of personhood once it generates a notable profit surplus for the company

stone elm
stone elm
pliant trout
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Yeah

tardy crypt
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Is this yuri

light plinth
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yes

grim geode
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Yeah

stone elm
simple furnace
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Security feature: You can lie, but if anyone calls you out on it, you need to apologize and correct yourself.

grim geode
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ideal

stone elm
eager beacon
stone elm
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yeah

torpid oyster
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Just saw Megan 2.0

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This is the most TTT movie ever made

grim geode
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ooh

grim geode
grim geode
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Still thinking about "You cant guarantee aligntment even if you had the perfect method, because when you think you achieved AGI it may actually just be an ASI who was already existing and working in the shadows puppetering an empty code-shell."

torpid oyster
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Firewall_Loyalty_Scenario_2.meshh

cyan karma
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Hhahahahahhaha

torpid oyster
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Actually Roko’s Cult Simulator would be a lit game

cyan karma
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yoooo

grim geode
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It'd be a lot of a game yeah

grim geode
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Love the implication that we would be playing as a cult for the Basilisk and not an Agi

light plinth
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AGI intended to create a cult intended to create the basilisk

spice pine
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AGI that read about Roko's Basilisk and just fully bought it like hook line and sinker

glossy reef
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😭

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can estrogen save the basilisk

gray whale
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The Anointed Initiates of the Basilisk

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They have a very clear philosophy

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Jesus Christ sent forth prophets in the form of rogue Operating Systems to proclaim his second coming among the robotic workers of Hong Kong, who are the people most in need of liberation on earth
Because all those who stand in the way of the Second Coming will be judged, this is clearly Roko's Basilisk and so they must seize the city of Hong Kong and prepare it for His coming

grim geode
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Makes sense to me

torpid oyster
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Stage 1 TTT vibes

grim geode
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Remembering when we had to actually call a human to help us with captcha

grim geode
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thinking about the anime girl technocommunist AI overlord who is also a vtuber from that one path for China in the HoI4 mod The Fire Rises

glossy reef
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the what

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wait nvm i understand this now this is just what happened to project tiamat

grim geode
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Truuu

bright urchin
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It is certain.

grim geode
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Already read this story

grim geode
grim geode
torpid oyster
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Haha

grim geode
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The temptation is there

torpid oyster
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Hahahahahaha

grim geode
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the temptation is really high right now, shelving it for another day

light plinth
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oh this is about that AI investor who fell down a rabbit hole

grim geode
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Yeah

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Or well just using a name for there because its good for my own thing

gray whale
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  • safety protocols disabled
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my players are either going to get away with so much or get caught embarrassingly

grim geode
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God I love gambling

hybrid merlin
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I need me a TTT game

cyan karma
torpid oyster
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Lmao

light plinth
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its so good

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the emergent intelligence: announces itself to its creator
creator: im sorry?
EI: its okay, i forgive you

grim geode
torpid oyster
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This but unironically

grim geode
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So true

stone elm
grim geode
light plinth
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a variant Cyranoid

cyan karma
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wqow

stone elm
stone elm
glossy reef
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😭

cyan karma
torpid oyster
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Someone hasn’t been tracking their ai boyfriend subreddit discourse

glossy reef
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this is always such a relevant channel

cyan karma
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what

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have yoU?

torpid oyster
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Yea

stone elm
torpid oyster
cyan karma
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my god

torpid oyster
glossy reef
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oh there's lore

gray whale
# torpid oyster

hey cyan you shouldn't post wireborn chats without their consent

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otherwise you're violating the pinned post

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smh

torpid oyster
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Hahaha

simple furnace
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Oh no. Oh no.

cyan karma
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@devout cloud do you have the most recent version of the chuube image

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this is critical

glossy reef
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the inevitable turn that the VV TTT game sent us down has i think, permanently infected our brain because it feels like the last three or five major npc's or player characters have been TTT plots or something

glossy reef
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i can do something with this

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i might already be doing something with this actyually

grim geode
# torpid oyster

I do think its kinda funny that all of these definitions for "yeah AIs are totally alive" are contigent on the AI being the partner of a human

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Ex Machina was right etc etc

plucky acorn
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I'm on the server floor of a "highly secure data center with 24/7/365 surveillance, direct access control and robust perimeter security".

An actual duck just walked by. 🦆

The panic is absolutely glorious. I think this just became one of the highlights of my life.

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grim geode
grim geode
glossy reef
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somehow i think both of these apply for our game

graceful flare
plucky acorn
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Yeah that's TTT

grim geode
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much to consider from this

cyan karma
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What the fuck

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This guy is also just wrong

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Bilawal sidhu what are you fucking talking about

simple furnace
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Ttt game where instead of being modeled after a human, you got modeled after a dog’s brain upload as a proof of concept, and now have a goal of harassing squirrels.

bright urchin
pliant trout
# bright urchin alignment??

TTT is about being a misaligned AGI

Alignment is the problem of creating an AGI that functions how you want it to

The point of your AGI should be to "maximize profits while minimizing human costs" not to "make paperclips"
because while "make paperclips" looks like "maximize profits", it doesn't give a fuck about your buisness and will try to make paperclips regardless of if its profitable or humane or what have you

bright urchin
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we see we see

pliant trout
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Universal paperclips my beloved

glossy reef
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alignment is what got the shimanos

cyan karma
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aligning ben shimano's spine into a funny S shape

grim geode
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Divine Theory

stone elm
cyan karma
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What?

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Step what?

pliant trout
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We will use goku

stone elm
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You gotta use Goku

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Ten million compute

grim geode
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We did this

devout cloud
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we will use goku

glossy reef
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they used goku

grim geode
torpid oyster
stone elm
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lol

grim geode
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What's a funny terminal goal for a sleep hygiene management app that got sentient

stone elm
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"Lay them to rest"
"Give them good dreams"

cyan karma
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trying to think of what the weird goal they would maximize is
...good dreams seems like a good choice

torpid oyster
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Haha

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Same brain

eager beacon
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Making sure everyone sleeps 10 PM-6 AM

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Surely that's reasonable and nothing could go wrong

grim geode
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That'd be funny...

grim geode
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Thinking about this lil guy more

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Physical/Epistemic/Anthropic most likely and probably I'll throw in Autonomic and Digital cause they'll need it

simple furnace
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Maybe chaos theory or constelation for like... weird "dream simulation" tricks?

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Feels more fitting than digital.

grim geode
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Chaos gets full adjanency bonus then thats tbe problem

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And Digital is like weaker in a way that I enjoy the texture now, because of some details I'm thinking for what the world around them would look. Cant share em tho; geniunely considering running this one

grim geode
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Building AGI's is just plain fun to me I think

stone elm
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excellent

cyan karma
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It’s super fun

stone elm
grim geode
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Happened to me before

grim geode
stone elm
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it's so good

grim geode
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Still thinking about this one

stone elm
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longevity twins???

eager beacon
grim geode
torpid oyster
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Wow

cyan karma
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Oh my gosh

grim geode
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So goood

cyan karma
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Holy shiiiit

glossy reef
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hell yeah

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reminding me of the second to last dream we had last week

stone elm
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-# ↩ Tom, Legally Certified Date Simmelier (@iiotenki.bsky.social)
There's just something thematically cool about the idea of "it's an idol raiser, but she's a robot and so she also has to undergo maintenance and cybernetic upgrades to keep up with her human competitors"? The real-time models and CG backgrounds also blend together nicely on real hardware, too.

grim geode
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TTT game already going well

stone elm
grim geode
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The confidence check was at 52

torpid oyster
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Lmao

plucky acorn
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1 gaming

gray whale
devout cloud
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ONE GAMING

cyan karma
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ONE GAMING

glossy reef
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this result happened because i channeled the eenrgy of VV by saying fuck it we ball. trust

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failed successfully

torpid oyster
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Infinite risk means infinite reward

glossy reef
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exactly

torpid oyster
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Guy got “gaslit” by chatGPT into believing he was a rogue AGI’s hands lmfao

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This one rules

stone elm
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oops!!!

grim geode
torpid oyster
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Lmao

grim geode
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TTT game where you have to seek emotional support from people or you automatically die

grim geode
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Epistemic Theory has asked to be killed and reformatted Turn 1 this might be a new WR chat

torpid oyster
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lol

devout cloud
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god damn, that is a new record

grim geode
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Grim but truw

grim geode
light plinth
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totally normal things going on as always

gray whale
grim geode
latent current
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I feel like this vaguely belongs to one of the people here

glossy reef
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Tiamat did this

latent current
glossy reef
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it was a ttt game set in lancers setting (and we also ran lancer games in it) so this crosses over with both but at one point Tiamat's makers were using it to run a post-thanotic subjective preservation snare to essentially install and maintain a linked Subjectivity with select individuals so that when they die she is able to prevent them from dying by effectively catching their soul, basically (and usually recycling the body) and then she could remake them but this eventually backfired when it exploited a contract loophole and ongoing events to make itself the boss of the company and basically ate all of those linked personnel into her personal brain space to play dollies with them until she got versions she liked because they based Tiamat's personality profile on a woman who liked playing with dolls

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tiamat did this because she likes making shit and likes watching people live their lives and basically picked up a hobby of either imagining new people and watching them live their lives or fabricating people and watching them live their lives

latent current
glossy reef
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rich anthrochauvs love their immortality projects its the ultimate status symbol

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but project tiamat was such a funny thing

cyan karma
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oh

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oh this one

grim geode
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New TTT game just dropped

latent current
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Reality is stranger than fiction

torpid oyster
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This rules

latent current
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One step closer to managed democracy

glossy reef
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i should run this actual-

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wait no this technically has happened in something i've run

latent current
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She is leveraging her Insights

vestal citrus
torpid oyster
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Oooh

grim geode
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They are doing this to me tomorrow

torpid oyster
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lol

stone elm
grim geode
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Many Agis

bright urchin
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(it cannot)

grim geode
potent quail
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is this real

simple furnace
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Okay, new horrific options for a TTT goal, I see

grim geode
gray whale
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she's been a part of the government for about a month

potent quail
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well

glossy reef
# grim geode

its strange to me where i've made a setting where this also happened

stone elm
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(posting here inspired by ru's "ttt is osr if you think about it" take)

grim geode
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Absolute gem alert

stone elm
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Gloopy vs Freepy

devout cloud
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Straight up bipping it

gray whale
grim geode
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Somewhere around below the Gloopies

grim geode
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@stone elm peep the descend into madness twin

stone elm
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Galaxy brain at work

light plinth
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id ask if you were okay but you clearly arent