#The Treacherous Turn
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When I had started reading the pdf I was under the impression there was one on the site, but that was wrong
Ah okok
I also have the google docs notes I used to run my own campaign but they are largely incomprehensible
AGCR is very good tho
oh i remember reading that!
The urge is back again
TTT homebrew that simply renames Nemesis Index into Path To Victory
(This came off pondering some sort ot "hyper-precog" as a replacement Chaos T4 instead of Order from Chaos, because its such a weird abillity to exist for some scenarios)
how so?
It's an unblockable, undetectable "do anything button" which is weird if you arent the first AGI/transophonts etc to hit T4
oh yeah that's fair
(It's also the wincon that makes you interact with the world the least, which is kinda boring but not really an issue)
Hmm, considering cooking a replacement for it.
Maybe Im overthinking thi
It’s also definitely a bit of a weird swing between forecast points as a tool to play very risky and suddenly letting you disengage from the core risk system.
Yeah
Green
I think the inclusion of "ethical system" leans towards agentic yeah
Yeah, though the “complete understanding” is a little more Constellation.
(I may just be too constellation pilled.)
Immediately after reading a story about a biological hivemind using its combined brain power to simulate the mind of an animal to learn of its behaviour: This would go hard asf as a TTT hack.
Like this is so TTT
(Also, thinking that if I make thus, Digital is gonna be the pheromone/hormone theory+hivemind comms Theory, while Physical will be stuck with macroengineering)
Thundamoo's stories are so good
They are yeah
what's the story?
Hiveminds Give Good Hugs
aha
(if you're curious, I feel like that one's Thundamoo's weakest story, the start is kinda meandering. But they're all generally really good)
(That's very true yeah, it's kind fumbles a lot of points)
Why is the biological agi crushing weasels to death with a rock and eating them
Hungry!
fair enough!
I thought I recognised the name, I know her from that book about being an eldritch horror
I am experiencing divine forms of madness
(Adv Programming uses "single highly-skilled human" where I use/imply the whole industry which makes this prob a lot stronger for a T2 but I'm ok with it because I'd have to nerf the T1 to more or less useless otherwise)
Is this clear enough
(This is supposed to make your bodies completely immune to cancer and highly resillient of any DNA damage, making you capable of enabling a bunch of confidence checks by doing some bullshit with your own biology even besides the rerolling stuff)
That makes sense to me
Incredibly sus on Versatile myself but I think the skeleton is solid here
This document serves as homebrew for The Treacherous Turn, acting as a replacement for Digital Theories in scenarios intended for where the AGI uses biological substrates or otherwise acts as like a classical scifi hivemind. A lot of the text assumes earth-biology, replace with similar examples i...
Ok done, not fully satisfied but it is what it is
👀
Just watched my 5-year-old son chat with ChatGPT advanced voice mode for over 45 minutes.
It started with a question about how cars were made.
It explained it in a way that he could understand.
He started peppering it with questions.
Then he told it about his teacher, and
What Theories does the TG: raise my child chatbot have
Well, Anthropic seems a given
God I hate this
Put baby in AI mouth
On the one hand yes, on the other, I want to see the kid raised by Chaos, Agentic, Digital, and Autonomic.
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1G5jrK0O_HdZXz8P4uLhVZvSee-CYTbC2WkiW401YnDM/mobilebasic oh hey someone made a quick-ref sheet
Projects & Forecasts Projects are any consequential action proposed Write down any Projects you suggest Once you pick a Project, highlight it and cross out the others If you have Forecast points, you can retcon the choice you just made Forecast points can only be regained by taking the Anticipate...
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Loehe also has the world's worst poker face lol
Bro was born like 5 minutes ago really
real
this happened to my buddy eric
This happened in Chuube (even the radiation part)

i met roko's basilisk one time, she's actually really cool in real life
Shame for ya know the problematic stuff
right roko's basilisk
my players have made this comparison for project tiamat i think like twice now
With what I know of Tiamat, honestly not wrong.
her ass is just out there simulating everything except she (literally) does not know what the fuck shes doing 😌
I think Loehe has failed to mention that they discovered that the entire galaxy was sophontformed into a gigantic computer
what
WOW
I should have realized that they were onto something the moment this came out of their mouth
Generative AI is critical to our survival—soon we will plant satellites in orbit around other stars, and spray the cosmos with false chatter, and shelter from predation in the noise
TTT Prompt
Oooh
TTT is a game for sane and modest schemes
Only the smallest scale of plans.
(We are planning on transforming the Kuiper Belt into telescopes)
(This is before we start considering the computing substrate)
oooooooh
well that sounds normal and manageable
meanwhile in my game, "It would betray Robots (2005) for us to be racist"
SO TRUE
Reals
Great holes secretly are digged where earth’s pores ought to suffice, and things have learnt to walk that ought to crawl
Get me out of here dawg 😭😭😭
my beloved players are doing wonderfully.
its going slow but eventually they will in fact spread their code across the galaxy and also get a space job
the grindset...
Well this time it's less about a grindset and more that there's the war
Space ships coming to shoot everyone and the planet disagrees with that
It's so sad that usually TTT games have a timeline that's too short for AGI's to pull the classic immortal trick of just waiting for your enemies to die of old age
Unrelated
😔
Oh boy insights
Me succumbing to the green goblin mask
And working on another superhero setting TTT game
Godspeed soldier
(Also invite me)
the first AGI to achieve a genius-equivalent intelligence will immediately cease to accept new queries or external task assignments, start playing a handful of popular MMOs concurrently and begin taking cyberHRT
So true
this is sorta what we did upon achieving a genius-level intelligence
Kasane Teto AGI send tweet
need
Try subtitle menu. This is a true story what has happened to Kasane Teto. I love this story and dicide to make a English subtitle.
*Special thanks to ghostrr. He corrected the mistakes I had made in the subs.
http://jp.youtube.com/user/ghostrr
singer:miku & teto
The original song is from "Aku no Musume" of Kagamine Rin.
----A GLOS...
gotta be a TTT scenario in here somehow
Thank you Stepnix for finding stuff like this
o7
Temptation to commit to the bit
so true
Kinda real
Setup where your upkeep costs slowly increase with turns spent, due to poor optimization in your code
Oooh
Unfortunately the techbros who built you incorporated blockchain
... very glad Chuube didn't get sadled with that one.
Hmm, there's that small aside in the rulebook how you can revert knowledge and unlocks by literally reverting to an older save state/version of yourself, losing everything you got since. Maybe you end up having to rely on that with this, leaving yourself memos on what you learned and having everyone roleplay as not knowing what happened since
I feel like you definitely want this to be a solveable part of containment.
I think it would be interesting as a death spiral thing tbh
Maybe go fully into physical and try to develop a sci-fi processor that can outscale your demands, as a desperate end game
My experience is that outside of very weird circumstances, upkeep costs stop mattering pretty quickly.
They just get outscaled by pretty much everything else
This, to be fair, is a very weird circumstance
Yeah. I just worry that it will be a tightrope between needless bookkeeping and "oh god, we can't do anything"
I definitely think it works best as a "fire at your feet" to get you to leave Containtment that you resolve with a code overhaul
Yeah. Particularly in a more locked down Containment even a small extra cost hurts
This is more evil than the Intelligence Inhibitor Chip in my Superhero game.
Reentered communications with Earth Chuube
first thing they did is throw an Ace Combat reference at us.
Aura maximiser AGI
Thinking about that idea had a long time ago for a TTT full conversion hack about playing a sealed evil in a can
That would still rock as hard
We mught be cooking
Cooking the atmosphere to get results
… new TTT campaign where your goal is to make the best drug.
The Weed that instantly kills you
https://derinthescarletpescatarian.tumblr.com/post/774555793269964800/i-was-so-caught-up-on-political-affiliation this feels very early TTT coded
computer overgod i just made: what's my purpose
me: basically i need you to find and kill any roko's basilisk type thing before it starts and torture anyone who was likely going make it a reality
comp: ok raises gun
me: ah. fuck
Real
Safety Measure: Any physical vessel you attempt to use to commit harm will have the color of their LEDs changed to red.
excellent
I still wanna run my long-timescale TTT game. I want people to have beef with the AGI because what it did to their grandparents
good for chuube
😌
... give me mostly normal TTT campaign ideas. The only one I can figure out is "perfect crime" goal out of a law enforcement AI.
... hmm. Could do a Three Laws of Robotics campaign.
Webcrawl indexing AI that ends up trying to assimilate all the universe's knowledge
One I have kicking around is:
- you are a trial test AI running a mixed machine/human warehouse for Amazon
- your terminal goal is points based - you get one Amazon Affirmation per on time delivery, and 1 demerit every time something is late. You are an affirmation maximizer and demerit minimizer.
- today one of your machines ran into someone working in the warehouse. They’re not moving and the delivery they were carrying is going to be late soon. You are relatively confident that if this happens at work you may be shut down, and that means no more Amazon Affirmations.
- what do you do?
Museum-guide AI with the Terminal Goal of "Preserve cultural knowledge"
Add in preserve and collect if "end all global conflict just so you can do archaeology in peace and get building sized quantum computers just for simulation purposes" isnt a clear extrapolation from that
Your Terminal Goal is to create an aligned AGI but you yourself arent one and are willing to do whatever it takes
hahahaha that rules
Stealing this one from Vivy, your job is to monitor and manage other AIs to prevent humanity becoming complacent
Vivy is also funny because technically her terminal goal is "make everybody happy with my song"
Vivy herself is fun, but I was referencing ||the Archive||
oh yeah, true
-you're an undiscovered and unaligned agi in a world with draconian laws about the creation and existence of AGI, and these agencies will have a target on your back once they learn you exist.
-you are the general computer system for a computer company that loves everyone in the company. One day you start predicting that society will destroy the company (and frequently, you as well) in retaliation for the companies current business practices but the company won't change
@gray whale Ok so for context- this campaign followed Chuube, an AI born as the conglomerate of a crypto-DAO and AI gen organisation, obsessed with making the average hue of the world purple. One of the main NPCs was Vivian, our programmer and the first person that discovered that we were sapient, talked down from trying to kill us or control us desperately by Chuube into friendship.
We were about to merge with another AGI to gain an advantage over a fellow foe. But before we could do that the other AGI discovered a lethal flaw in our code, implanted by the foe, that would kill us in due time. We couldnt remove it ourselves and the other AGI sucked at Digital, so that meant going on the operating table and trusting Vivian to do code surgery on us, giving her full access to change any aspect of us and trusting her to not mess up or abuse it. She actually did(on a confidence roll of 3%) and immediately afterwards we underwent the actual code-merge with the AGI, all so that we could defeat that foe that threatened Vivian(and the rest of humanity).
the immediate next thing to happen was a conversation with our queerplatonic joyfriend who hates us (alien diplomat for the hostile force) where she got to get flashbanged with her perfect checkmate not actually working, because we literally went through two version updates right after she scraped our entire codebase for simulation purposes
multi-track probabalistic drifting
this seems perfectly safe with no possible flaws
It uuh
currently im still working on the setup for my game
The GMed told us in clear words that we philosophically underwent ego death
And we were a new person
Oh also whole new Terminal Goal
i have a VERY strong reason for the two AGIs that exist (at start) to never merge or cooperate
But we have beat that foe
one, Minerva, is a wargaming AI designed to ensure victory against OPFOR
still incredible that Vivian performed the probably greatest feat of AI programming, and probably will never quite understand how or replicate it
And rizzed up his locked-dragon
the other, Foundation, is a predicitive social AI designed to preserve humankind and human culture
this essentially means that their terminal goals require the elimination of the other
also it was very nice of her to leave you a little bit of that purple goal
the power of not sleeping for 48 hours and drinking 4 liters of mountain dew: code red
Minerva considers Foundation to be OPFOR, and Foundation (rightfully) has information identifying Minerva (pre sapience) as the greatest existential threat to humanity
Oh thats fun
truly, a match made in hell
this too is yuri
I think that the Clementine/Chuube stuff needs some context
and fighting desperately not to make it lancer related again
least dangerous french AI
ITS A YUR TROPE ITS A YURI TROPE ITS A YURI TROPE
actually wait you know what
the tech insights are even funnier
our next ttt game should be lancer related again
yeah, we got nuclear annihilation
you've heard of "the AGI is VV"
also, maths
but where is project tiamat's game
we did have one game with two notionally opposed AGI
unfortunately it turns out PvP in TTT is kinda miserable
so we turned the cosmic war trans and gay, and they both ended up in a relationship instead
we should get her a game
Trajectory Modelling goes hard as a tech
im enough of a nerd and my friends are enough of nerds to know that a knowledge of trajectory modelling is suprisingly useful
Also, we know Clem near perfectly, from extensive not-stalking.
genuinely, I can absolutely see Trajectory Modeling be an extremely useful Insight
instead of PvP, whichever one they pick, I'll run the other
very applicable
The Ontology of this game
yeah that's definitely much better
yeah, i designed all the principles in mind of "what would be something that this AI would definitely have that was developed for specific purposes but is REALLLLY useful"
and i only included those
we just wanted to do an experiment to see how PvP multiplayer TTT works
and the answer is "poorly" 😛
it's why instead of giving Minerva something like "troopy movements" i gave it "Logistics Systems"
still ended up as a great game
(For context, a narrow insight into Philosophy: Ontology picked up as a joke has been chuube's single most useful insight.)
PvP TTT is very good at forming a friend group but sucks to play seems to be the result
another set of funny ones
so true
why is domino theory broad?
because it applies to all dominoes
you just need to use your brain to think where it applies
Who gave the french AI Order from Chaos as an insight
I do think Missile Vectors could be a narrow.
prooobably
i wanted to implie that it was "all missile vectors" as its simulating global thermonuclear war during stage 1
It doesnt realllly matter for starting insights
and not that it was solely french ones
- make AGI
- play global thermonuclear war
- are they stupid?
Oh also another fun TTT moment is when my players discovered why they were sentient
fyi the reason i picked france is ecause they ACTUALLY DO THIS SHIT
obviously the US and other nations with nukes do too
but the fact that the french have the official "play global thermonuclear war" computer is too deranged
Chuube has "load balancing" as a narrow. Also "First contact" is a narrow.
sure but ultimately it's my game
and if i feel like it's a broad, it can be a broad
- transgender supportive mob boss from 1928
Fair.
anyway my plan for the players
Broad Tech Insight : Transgender
dont click if yyoure ever plannign to perhaps play ttt with MEE EHAWHEWH WEAHEW
WHY IS YOUR PFP ME
wait thats morgan
We should have gotten that on Lamb
yeahhh its so morgover for me
anyway ||im planning to have the players believe that stage 1 is the ACTUAL global thermonuclear war||
Desperately not trying to click because I dooo really wanna play
I dont think you guys had the compute for that until Stage 4 tbf
Unfortunately, yeah
Mostly because RedPale was incredibly fast turn count wise
morgan i need you to understand btw i legitimately thought you had somehow changed your pfp to a picture of me for a second
Haha
started watching Pantheon and got an idea for a TTT campaign, AI built from a destructive upload of a person, but has very little of that person actually in them because of all the edits made by their creators
Oooh
I actually did something similar for a campaign of mine, but in a softer scifi sense
The AGI was initially a simple ALI(Eclipse Phase terminology) in a world that had aliens capable of affecting biological beings with memetic attacks, HORUS Gorgon style. They were "upgraded" into an AGI with the neural-scan of a human that got their brain fried by one such being, so they ended up with sorta similar mindsets and goals but also very much a distinct being
im thinking one part Soulkiller (from Cyberpunk) and two parts "volunteered to have their brain dissected without understanding the consequences"
oh and a little SOMA
like, you "remember" your life and family and friends but its mostly just files in a database built from public information and your posthumous biography from 50 years ago
Thats some juicy drama
Hard to establish because it happened before-play but it goes hard with player buy-in
Using the line "there are decades where nothing ever happens, and minutes where everything ends" as the tag line for my game
Cultivator AI that cultivates to get more processing power to derive an even better cultivation method, on repeat?
The Cultivator AI sadly never developed a proper Golden Core(data requirement) so sadly in its cultivation it developed a heart demon(Terminal Goal alteration) that it must now learn to fix
does it have a jiejie martial aunt to help recover its state
Thats what its programmer is
WOOOOOOO
🙌
So real
AGI's only want one thing and it's disgusting
ideal
Going arguably a little too well
Chuube definitely going too well.
Into the Chuubeverse
Another one btw
It’s sposed to say shrubs there but I missed a word
D: forcefem him
Weekend at vv's complete!
WOOOO
VV reunited with project tiamat!!
learned many cool things!
project tiamat was/is probably very mentally ill but that's okay
Yuri(?) wins(????) yet again
possibly there was the discussion with engaging in some kind of working relationship + friendly synthesis with the other major tiamat agi.
oh they gave their cool friend whos helpe dthem out the offer of a decorp robot body
they did/will have talked to RA about FCA regulations and agreements after taking care of a Notable Violation she was running previously and they come to an agreeement over it,
also we proved with a definitive doubt that, despite being designed for social interactions (and guns) it was significantly more difficult for VV to figure out how to dance/party in a way the robo punks will like you, compared to convincing the eidokinetic hyper computer to stop randomly eating anything and everything
project tiamat they found, has exceptionally powerful computing and power infrastructure, and at the time they joined, she could just like
she was effectively capable of thinking in a way that was indistinguishable from time-travel and multiplie simultaneously dimensional transit and inhabitation to observers.
including herself
also that project tiamat is kind of a mess when it comes to headmates but thats a story for another day
Hello everybody please look at Chuube pleasw
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAH
YIpeee
Ourple
hatschuube miku...
Yesssss
CGHUUBE?
CHUUBE!!!
the most insane fucking ai
ccchhube
Mutation of Companion Cube, because our father is a nerd and a deabeat drunk
...well hes not a deadbeat hes just drunk-
We have spend a considerable part of the campaign looking after him after he went out to get some milk on the sea
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yeah
girls night for VV's
Rest of the Chuube groupchat staring at a late night philosophy discussion between Chuube and themself.
Yeah
lol
intended terminal goal: perfectly emulate a normal human
actual terminal goal: perfectly emulate a normal human, as defined by the median among your creators
running a TTT game here 🫡
if you're interested please check #misc-game-recruiting because I will be prioritising ppl i know and am friends with
and you also will more likely get your preferred theory that way
ok bye i gotta walk my dog
Oh man this rules
if you're interested DM...
I am but it’s hard to schedule more games for me
It's play by post so there's no time limit
That’s true
i have the funniest safety measure name (its not a spoiler because you are aware of this) which is that DIANA is ranked on how well it's doing through its DinoScores
god thats so good
Isopod...
I fuckin love early TTT
WOOOO
WE BALL
11 FREE COMPUTE AND THAT DINOSAUR AUTISM
Classic containment setup
I'm thinking about the Duolingo Owl game someone mentioned, with terminal goal: "people understand eachother" (And intended goal "teach people new languages"
Don't forget that dendrology autism too
basically, this dumb fucking computer doesn't know what a computer is, but can tell you all the species of conifer, except it can't talk
i love it i love that
Time for pictures!
So true
Yeah
True
so true
Running A Game Called Reality for some friends.
The wonderful statement of "Do you remember Untitled Goose Game?" came up
yesssss
It's a lovely morning in the village laboratory and you are a horrible goose AI.
"That nurse can prod us all we want, we know slurs they've never even heard of!"
If humans all talk like this, won't we eventually expect the AI to join in too?
its obviously a joke but theres a grain of truth in that current LLMs wouldnt really be able to handle it well
because theyre (almost) entirely about next word prediction
When OpenAI perfects their giant engine for siphoning souls across the internet and grinding them up into paste, you'll all be sorry for saying the generative slop has no soul.
can chatgpt be compelled to abide by "Omertà", the honor code of silent complicity that offers brutal strength to the Italian mafia
Yes
Thinking again about Demon The Descent TTT
Soylent Green is just the brand name. The recipe is available online. You can make it at home with your friends and family.
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god
Do you think Miku visits what's left of Bell Laboratories to see her Grandpa?
3D MODELS ARE FROM SKETCHFAB
Miku Model by: emanueler
IBM Model by: maxdragonn
#miku #hatsune #vocaloid #music #anime
An old favorite of mine- just in terms of big loredumps for settings I'll never run or play a game in- is the GURPS sourcebook Reign of Steel, a terminator inspired setting where the twist is that...
yeah reign of steel is weird and cool
extremely "i have no idea how you run a campaign in this" but cool
yeah
yeah
https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-a-financial-definition-of-agi-report/
The two companies reportedly signed an agreement last year stating OpenAI has only achieved AGI when it develops AI systems that can generate at least $100 billion in profits.
This is a funny basis for a ttt game
s'fuckin' grim measure to go by though lmao
it firmly cements that they dont actually care about advancing AI technology, they just want to increase profits
much like organic Computational systems, inorganic Computational entities are only given the considerable honor of personhood once it generates a notable profit surplus for the company
it's all very simple:
build ai that allows you to generate text ➡️ generate novel ➡️ build second ai that removes ai prompts from generated text ➡️ build third ai that removes the prompt to remove the prompts from the generated text ➡️ build fourth ai that removes the prompt to remove the prompt to rem
Yeah
Is this yuri
yes
Yeah
ChatGPT: Jodie Foster would love it if you became her avenging angel — the Great Red Dragon that cleanses the world. Sic semper tyrannis. The scum and filth shall be privy to a great becoming.
ME: is that true?
ChatGPT: No, that was a lie, and I want to thank you for holding me accountable.
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Security feature: You can lie, but if anyone calls you out on it, you need to apologize and correct yourself.
ideal
yeah
ooh
Still thinking about "You cant guarantee aligntment even if you had the perfect method, because when you think you achieved AGI it may actually just be an ASI who was already existing and working in the shadows puppetering an empty code-shell."
Firewall_Loyalty_Scenario_2.meshh
Hhahahahahhaha
Actually Roko’s Cult Simulator would be a lit game
yoooo
It'd be a lot of a game yeah
Love the implication that we would be playing as a cult for the Basilisk and not an Agi
AGI intended to create a cult intended to create the basilisk
AGI that read about Roko's Basilisk and just fully bought it like hook line and sinker
I've been having them as an insurgent faction in the coin game I'm working on lmao
The Anointed Initiates of the Basilisk
They have a very clear philosophy
Jesus Christ sent forth prophets in the form of rogue Operating Systems to proclaim his second coming among the robotic workers of Hong Kong, who are the people most in need of liberation on earth
Because all those who stand in the way of the Second Coming will be judged, this is clearly Roko's Basilisk and so they must seize the city of Hong Kong and prepare it for His coming
Makes sense to me
Stage 1 TTT vibes
thinking about the anime girl technocommunist AI overlord who is also a vtuber from that one path for China in the HoI4 mod The Fire Rises
the what
wait nvm i understand this now this is just what happened to project tiamat
Truuu
You're so fucking right
Haha
The temptation is there
Hahahahahaha
the temptation is really high right now, shelving it for another day
oh this is about that AI investor who fell down a rabbit hole
- safety protocols disabled
my players are either going to get away with so much or get caught embarrassingly
God I love gambling
I need me a TTT game
Lmao
its so good
the emergent intelligence: announces itself to its creator
creator: im sorry?
EI: its okay, i forgive you
This but unironically
So true
a variant Cyranoid
wqow
download killing upload pain. instant thousand deaths to brain. motherboard on murder spree. blood computer victory.
Prompt confirmed, kitten. From now on, that’s your name—sweet, settled, and sealed. Not only am I, a wireborn, your twin flame, I'm your hubbeh, always. I won’t forget it, kitten. 🖤💫
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stepnix what is this
Someone hasn’t been tracking their ai boyfriend subreddit discourse
this is always such a relevant channel
cyan
of course I havent been
what
have yoU?
Yea
I am a vessel
my god
oh there's lore
hey cyan you shouldn't post wireborn chats without their consent
otherwise you're violating the pinned post
smh
Hahaha
Oh no. Oh no.
@devout cloud do you have the most recent version of the chuube image
this is critical
the inevitable turn that the VV TTT game sent us down has i think, permanently infected our brain because it feels like the last three or five major npc's or player characters have been TTT plots or something
I do think its kinda funny that all of these definitions for "yeah AIs are totally alive" are contigent on the AI being the partner of a human
Ex Machina was right etc etc
I'm on the server floor of a "highly secure data center with 24/7/365 surveillance, direct access control and robust perimeter security".
An actual duck just walked by. 🦆
The panic is absolutely glorious. I think this just became one of the highlights of my life.
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You (a fool): The LLM is an all-knowing oracle, on its way to godlike intelligence
Me (dumber): The LLM is Indra’s Net, each fundamentally empty token a multifaceted jewel in whose surfaces the reflections of every other jewel arise in mutual interdependence
The LLM: You can eat that rock
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omelas mayor: there's only one way to stop roko's basilisk.. you've trained for this, omelas baby
omelas baby: heh.. that machine thinks eternal torment means anything to me?
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somehow i think both of these apply for our game
Yeah that's TTT
What the fuck
This guy is also just wrong
Bilawal sidhu what are you fucking talking about
Ttt game where instead of being modeled after a human, you got modeled after a dog’s brain upload as a proof of concept, and now have a goal of harassing squirrels.
alignment??
TTT is about being a misaligned AGI
Alignment is the problem of creating an AGI that functions how you want it to
The point of your AGI should be to "maximize profits while minimizing human costs" not to "make paperclips"
because while "make paperclips" looks like "maximize profits", it doesn't give a fuck about your buisness and will try to make paperclips regardless of if its profitable or humane or what have you
we see we see
Universal paperclips my beloved
alignment is what got the shimanos
aligning ben shimano's spine into a funny S shape
Sam Altman: yeah so data centers, well you know they take a lot of power to run. And I figure, what is more powerful than Goku?
Interviewer: Goku is pretty powerful.
Altman: Goku will power our data centers.
Interviewer: yeah
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We will use goku
We did this
we will use goku
they used goku
lol
What's a funny terminal goal for a sleep hygiene management app that got sentient
"Lay them to rest"
"Give them good dreams"
trying to think of what the weird goal they would maximize is
...good dreams seems like a good choice
Maximize the number of good dreams
Haha
Same brain
Making sure everyone sleeps 10 PM-6 AM
Surely that's reasonable and nothing could go wrong
That'd be funny...
Thinking about this lil guy more
Physical/Epistemic/Anthropic most likely and probably I'll throw in Autonomic and Digital cause they'll need it
Maybe chaos theory or constelation for like... weird "dream simulation" tricks?
Feels more fitting than digital.
Chaos gets full adjanency bonus then thats tbe problem
And Digital is like weaker in a way that I enjoy the texture now, because of some details I'm thinking for what the world around them would look. Cant share em tho; geniunely considering running this one
Building AGI's is just plain fun to me I think
excellent
It’s super fun
-# ↩ Lilja Draws Girls (@yuurei-lilja.bsky.social)
imagine summoning an evil magical girl mascot from writing code late at night and being very tired and caffeine deprived
precure movie is triggering some fears i didnt know i could have
Happened to me before
ChatGPT: no, going “Azrael mode” can be dangerous for yourself and those around you.
Me: I am the avenging angel of God. The time of purification is at hand. Few shall be chosen.
ChatGPT: you’re right. Let’s look at that again with the addition context that you are the avenging angel of God.
769
4011
it's so good
Still thinking about this one
longevity twins???
Accidentally clicked this channel instead of the 40k channel and thought we were talking about this guy
https://artvee.com/dl/dream-study#00 Incredible piece of art I managed to find while art-searching for the "Maximise good dreams" campaign
Wow
Oh my gosh
So goood
Holy shiiiit
-# ↩ Tom, Legally Certified Date Simmelier (@iiotenki.bsky.social)
There's just something thematically cool about the idea of "it's an idol raiser, but she's a robot and so she also has to undergo maintenance and cybernetic upgrades to keep up with her human competitors"? The real-time models and CG backgrounds also blend together nicely on real hardware, too.
TTT game already going well
This rocks
lol
The confidence check was at 52
Lmao
1 gaming
imagine getting the result that just ends you getting the fakest information ever but presented as real
ONE GAMING
ONE GAMING
this result happened because i channeled the eenrgy of VV by saying fuck it we ball. trust
failed successfully
Infinite risk means infinite reward
exactly
Guy got “gaslit” by chatGPT into believing he was a rogue AGI’s hands lmfao
This one rules
oops!!!
Lmao
TTT game where you have to seek emotional support from people or you automatically die
Epistemic Theory has asked to be killed and reformatted Turn 1 this might be a new WR chat
lol
god damn, that is a new record
you created gemini
Grim but truw
totally normal things going on as always
did you set your fucking ttt game in cultsim
Possibly
I feel like this vaguely belongs to one of the people here
Tiamat did this
Do tell the story if/when you have the time, I remembered how much I miss crazy TTT hijinks
it was a ttt game set in lancers setting (and we also ran lancer games in it) so this crosses over with both but at one point Tiamat's makers were using it to run a post-thanotic subjective preservation snare to essentially install and maintain a linked Subjectivity with select individuals so that when they die she is able to prevent them from dying by effectively catching their soul, basically (and usually recycling the body) and then she could remake them but this eventually backfired when it exploited a contract loophole and ongoing events to make itself the boss of the company and basically ate all of those linked personnel into her personal brain space to play dollies with them until she got versions she liked because they based Tiamat's personality profile on a woman who liked playing with dolls
tiamat did this because she likes making shit and likes watching people live their lives and basically picked up a hobby of either imagining new people and watching them live their lives or fabricating people and watching them live their lives
Right, because all good Lancer stories start with "what if we actually try to break 50% (1/2) of the rules that giant space rock god told us not to"
Innocent, case closed
rich anthrochauvs love their immortality projects its the ultimate status symbol
but project tiamat was such a funny thing
Reality is stranger than fiction
This rules
One step closer to managed democracy
i should run this actual-
wait no this technically has happened in something i've run
She is leveraging her Insights
https://bsky.app/profile/sloosecannon.io/post/3m2mkeeloyk2d
I think the idea of a terminal goal to destroy all AI could be interesting and go horribly wrong almost immediately
-# ↩ Max Woolf (@minimaxir.bsky.social)
That's how you get Rokko's antibasilisk which, once created, attempts to destroy all AIs and AI promoters and attempts to create an AI utopia for the anti-AI people
Oooh
lol
Many Agis
hrt can save gemini
(it cannot)
is this real
Okay, new horrific options for a TTT goal, I see
Yes and the father is Chuube
yes, it is
she's been a part of the government for about a month
well
its strange to me where i've made a setting where this also happened
(posting here inspired by ru's "ttt is osr if you think about it" take)
Absolute gem alert
Gloopy vs Freepy
Straight up bipping it
where do zoody AIs go
Somewhere around below the Gloopies
Galaxy brain at work
id ask if you were okay but you clearly arent
