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#dark tidings (Darktide for people in the searchbar)
fierce marten
vital chasm
Is that a modded ui?
fierce marten
Yes
vital chasm
Looks nice, I should look into stuff like that
fierce marten
Its a rabbithole as darktide's modding scene is surprisingly deep. I used crosshair HUD, custom HUD, and HUDtweaker. These 3 combined lets you make your UI look like pretty much anything you want
vital chasm
Is there a way to make specific talent effects stand out more? I'd certainly like being able to tell on a glance if revenant is up
fierce marten
Yea so theres a BetterBuffManagement mods and you can choose which buffs you want displayed. Above is an old UI but my current one has multiple buff bars stacked on top with less important ones below the UI and the very important ones above the UI (revenant, nade CD, etc) so its easier to see the important one
vital chasm
Fantastic, I'll have to set that up
fierce marten
I will say use hud tweaker sparingly cause patches sometimes reset the UI and you have to redo it, I've learned to keep it simple and just get alter parts of the UI I find annoying
spare saffron
The only problem with pistols is that I'm so spoiled by their goodness that using other weapons feels clunky
vital chasm
Right, with a mod that shows LUAMEM usage, there definitely is a memory leak, about 20 MB more after every mission
lost cave
I think a neat new weapon wouldbe a belt fed autogun for Vet and maybe Arbites.
sacred pagoda
Hotshot lasgun…
vital chasm
Hotshot Lasgun would make me play veteran
opaque crown
hotshot las would be good imo, grenade launcher is a want from me
a light stubber would be good imo
would be cool to get a vindicator thats a flamer and chainsaw at the same time for the zealot
brave otter
As a vibe pick absolutely
Feels unlikely tho, given uh
Zealot can have both a flamethrower and a chainsaw
lost cave
What I would like for Hotshot Lasgun, and this would never happen, is a fourth skill line where the Hellgun is the ult and it works like the exiled engineers minigun in VT2, where you can activate it at any time, but can only fire as long as you have enough charge.
dawn totem
As a vibe pick absolutely
Feels unlikely tho, given uh
Zealot can have both a fl...
I have a Zealot build that's literally a flamethrower/heavy eviserator combo
brave otter
It feels like a very good combo!
opaque crown
yeah its just an iconic for zealots, not so much a niche that isn't covered
also we dont have al ot of ranged/melee hybrid guns currently
my actual pie in the sky is a selection of "pistol + melee" weapons
cause that one is kind of warhammer iconic
lost cave
I have a Zealot build that's literally a flamethrower/heavy eviserator combo
Exterminator at home type build.
or Vindictor Flamer.
vital chasm
I feel like eviscerator and the flamer kinda do the same job, killing hordes, which is why I pair the eviscerator with the revolver
brave otter
To me, Eviscerator seems like a one stop shop at close range, so the BEST combination riffing off of that feels like something good at whipping out and taking out a given annoying far away bastard
So yeah revolver, bolt pistol, laspistol?
Which is what I am wanting to build towards myself
vital chasm
(also Eviscerator has access to Momentum, which makes it a fantastic brawling weapon)
I just love that thing so much
fierce marten
Hotshot Lasgun would make me play veteran
What I would give for more ranged weapons that are good against Carapace
distant surge
how far is a battle sister from a skittari or an arbites?
clear ridge
how far is a battle sister from a skittari or an arbites?
female zealot
distant surge
true 
clear ridge
a sister of battle is just that but like ten times stronger because they don't wear helmets
distant surge
and aside from that
even their weapons would be way too similar
so i think it wouldnt make much sense as a new character
even zealot has a faith thingy with the relic
clear ridge
yes
people keep asking for sisters of battle but it's literally just "fem zealot except we added a zero at the end of all the numbers"
just need more cosmetics
and like
non-mtx cosmetics
sharp pine
I find silly how people are foregoing the most evident new class that the inquisition would employ
Playable demonhost soon
clear ridge
lol
distant surge
i didnt read that many 40k books but in the ciaphas cain book there`s a Tau one
considering their "for the greater good" thing it probably happens a lot
clear ridge
kroot mercs is what folks keep talking about
distant surge
they had a kroot in that book which was a fun character
is "powder that makes you say kroot tomorrow" going to be the new joke?
sharp pine
I thought kroots were stronger
After looking at their tt statline
Yeah sure, why not
clear ridge
dunno, i don't use reddit
distant surge
neither do i 
i just saw people on youtube saying that meme a lot
sharp pine
Reddit is my doomscroll
distant surge
but honestly
i really dont know what else they could add 
i really dont expect a rattling considering that level design was already more challenging with the Ogryn in mind
sharp pine
We ARE representatives of the inquisition, we got IG rep, mutant rep, psyker rep, arbites rep, mechanicus rep, underworld rep
clear ridge
do they need to keep adding?
sharp pine
Not a lot left tbh
distant surge
dont think they do
sharp pine
Genuinely, I'm struggling to even think what else they could add
Like, I get wanting more contnet
But classes probably aint the way
distant surge
Yeah
they could just focus on the ones they have and add more content for them
new weapons and whatnot
vital chasm
Freeboota would be hilarious
distant surge
it would
sharp pine
That would be TOO good
fierce marten
Eldar corsair, some characters mentioned Eldar /s
vital chasm
new class, Jokaero, real and true
fierce marten
No they'd fix Atoma and then there'd be no darktide
fierce marten
Both of those things would make Atoma better
opaque crown
a battle sister is wearing power armor; which is beyond even an arbites
ohp chat was slow to update for me
but I dont think a battle sister is just a female zealot
they are female zealots but with discipline, training, and power armor; where zealots tend to be more faith than training and more fury than discipline
clear ridge
yeah but they do the same things
with the same gear
in the same ways
just better
better at everything and with space marine-ass power armor
opaque crown
if you zoom out enough sure, thats like saying a tempestus scion and a space marine are pretty much the same thing just one does it better
and has power armor
clear ridge
drowsy tusk
clear ridge
skitarii in 22 days...
fierce marten
better at everything and with space marine-ass power armor
Something something hive scum is just veteran
slender shell
Im just hoping for votaan mercs
sharp pine
Oh that's a good one
fierce marten
Rock and stone?
Votann would be so funny
Also people would learn they're human height, they're just built wide
sacred pagoda
I don’t like that.
sacred pagoda
I’m cool with the fridge, but it should be 5’ tall at most when we’re taking about Kin.
slender shell
Kin do get high heels from their suits which is why they're average human height if I recall right
Need to double check because I only saw the model lineup with the ones in suits, unsure about the chtonic models
quiet escarp
The Necromunda squats, which I think a Squat class would probably be based on, are just a little bit shorter than the average guardsmen sized human model, though their eyeline is more like the top of the guardsmen's chest because they have very different proportions
The necromunda guys are actually markedly shorter than the main votann lines minis too, actually
sacred pagoda
Yeah but the Kin of the Leagues are wearing power armor.
cyan depot
Lore wise it like shoots sticky webs or something, it’s basically what the trapper has, kill team just made it a shitty meltagun to simulate the non lethal takedown
distant surge
do mods have a web gun to catch bad peeps that join the discord?
high pivot
do mods have a web gun to catch bad peeps that join the discord?
If u got the report gun to let em know then probably.
slender shell
From their Instagram, damn tbey look.good
opaque crown
are transonic weapons pretty much the same as star wars' vibroblades?
slender shell
Not knowing anything about starwars vibroblades, like 99% chance yes
worldly talon
are transonic weapons pretty much the same as star wars' vibroblades?
Not exactly. IIRC Vibroblades are just 'vibrate really fast to boost cutting power' right?
Transonic weapons are 'make a sonic field that matches the resonant frequency of the target to literally shake it apart when it hits'
sharp pine
Yeah
opaque crown
ah ok yeah thats different
sharp pine
They dissamble whoever they hit
opaque crown
vibroblades are definitely just vibrate so good that they can cut through most things easily
the weird bit is them vibrating so good they can fence with a lightsaber
worldly talon
THat's more what they're made out of than the vibration
At least that's the excuse that KOTOR/SWTOR uses
Because lightsaber-wielding combatants are such a major and expected thing, most vibroweapons have a 'cortosis weave'
To make them lightsaber resistant
To the point that Cortosis is rare by the time the OT rolls around because most of it was mined for this purpose in the distant past
opaque crown
so transonic blades are like... using harmonics to pop the target similar to the urban myth of opera singing to break glasses?
spiral badger
that's not actually a myth
it can be done
they filmed it being done on mythbusters even
it just has to be relatively delicate glass for an unassisted human to do it
it's actually fairly possible for a trained singer with amplification
spiral badger
To the point that Cortosis is rare by the time the OT rolls around because most ...
also, frankly, when the lightsaber wielders are down to the single digits you probably don't need to have special weapons to protect against them
worldly talon
That too
quiet escarp
so transonic blades are like... using harmonics to pop the target similar to the...
Yes but they're mostly depicted just cutting through things good afaict
worldly talon
Especially because up until the Clone Wars the Republic claimed to have had 1,000 years of peace.
So after the Sith were no longer a factor it just wasn't needed anymore
quiet escarp
But maybe also they're blowing things up on a micro scale
worldly talon
Ruleswise they're basically power weapons with a mortal wound on a 6+
opaque crown
well, thats not too different from power weapons, which do some spooky tech stuff, but ultimately just cut real good
or in hammer/fists respect, concuss stuff good
disruption fields being nasty things
dawn totem
Currently playing Mechanicus to celebrate the Skitarri coming to DT.
spiral cairn
I'll probably be satisfied solely based on the fact that you get to play as a Mechanicus person. But it would be great shit if the moments where Hadron or Kayex are yelling at the rejects over the vox, to Skitarii players they speak in binharic and are slightly less mean
sharp pine
I'd love that so much
opaque crown
it IS kinda starting to feel a little crowded in the dt universe
if both the arbites and mechanicum are taking the stage, are run of the mill rejects really even a need? Heck is recruiting from remnant hive gangs a need?
sure your top tier guys and even mid tier guys are probably useful inquisition fodder
but the majority of them will be way below your rank and file arbitrators and skitarii
vital chasm
Eh, there's a lot of missions to send rejects on
brave otter
if both the arbites and mechanicum are taking the stage, are run of the mill rej...
I think the best way to think of it is in the terms of the like
Forward progression of the metaplot
You start out as little scumbags, do all the content in base game darktide (and become experienced inquisition agents by virtue of miraculously surviving suicide missions)
The arbites get called in cuz it's bad, the hive scum bargain is struck because the gangs have eyes in places the authorities don't, now the mechanicus are joining the ongoing fight
The base game PCs the arbites and skitarii are rubbing shoulders with are, in-plot, the badass hardened post-base-game PCs, you know
fierce marten
but the majority of them will be way below your rank and file arbitrators and sk...
We're actually above the arbites in terms of skill
We're also inquisitorial agents which Inquisitors in a way supercede arbites
We're backup us up after the rolling steel, we're rather elite in the inquisiton
vital chasm
"Still won't memorize your name, lol" - Rannick
fierce marten
Rannick definitely knows he just doesnt say it to keep up the act
Also like the arbites and hive scum outnumber us, a ton of the OG rejects have died since carnival and rolling steel compared to the arbites ships full of probably millions of prisoners there's like a couple thousand alive if that
vital chasm
TBF I got to thinking about it in regards to Enclavum Baross, when four (4) rejects are sent to capture the Aegis Station through a thousand and some heretics, only to have a squad of storm troopers fly in at the end to take hold of the station
But yeah, through the missions, there is a growing trust in the abilities of the rejects
opaque crown
I mean our guys the level thirty guys who took down the Karnak Twins and punched a hole for the militarum, we're that good, we're at least, based on the way characters treat us at least and not on raw in game ability, trusted with important stuff, amongst the best of the the guys. Its not clear if we're at a level that Morrow would consider elite though.
But the average reject? Arbitrators are better than them and skitarii most certainly are
fierce marten
The average reject is dead, pretty much only the level 30 exist
tough compass
it IS kinda starting to feel a little crowded in the dt universe
It's not a major conflict on a 40k world unless every faction manages to find a way in
fierce marten
There have been several events that killed off any reject that wasnt on par
Probably cause video game and dev cost but if it were a novel there'd be like a dozen enemy factions and a dozen allied factions and none are directly working with each other
vital chasm
Also the war still isn't affecting the majority of Tertium
fierce marten
I mean *our guys* the level thirty guys who took down the Karnak Twins and punch...
Also Rolling steel was reserved for only the best of the entire inquisitorial and rogue trader ship and rejects were chosen per rannick's reccomenndation. There were like agents in the warband probably their entire lives that were passed over. We mostly are treated like Rejects cause we are brand new per inquisitor standards, we have no skate for loyalty or signs of not being heretical (look at you psyker seer). Good doesnt mean we're trustworthy
spiral cairn
I really REALLY hope this outfit makes into the game, I don't even give a fuck about the vanguard helmet, I NEED that scarf
cyan depot
Hive gangs are lowkey really stunningly capable small units in 40K
Like a normal ass group of Escher are like, a hardened and extremely overgunned imperial guard platoon
It’s pretty common for the Inquisition to recruit out of them one way or another cause they have the same stealth and viciousness
cyan depot
Like a normal ass group of Escher are like, a hardened and extremely overgunned ...
Some of that’s Necromunda being built different but it’s routine for the gangs to be as or more hardcore than even fairly elite military formations
buoyant apex
TBF I got to thinking about it in regards to Enclavum Baross, when four (4) reje...
Part of that at least is because the four guys kind of aren't expected to succeed, or at least if they fail nothing important was lost
Sending in the stormtroopers to take it is a big risk because if the stormtroopers die that's a big injury
fierce marten
Most guard regiments work in larger number than 4 people and sending in 4 people in 40k for the imperium outside of like space marines (even then 4 is still small unless they're very elite or on a suicide mission) is just very rare, let alone mostly regular humans..
Grendyl for some reason is very very against marching in with a full army and waging war towards the bottom, he's sticking to like Zola's/Rannick's operators and sending squads of 4. Carnival was the only exception where he got everyone including the PDF and loyalist moebian for like a proper army scale assault
sharp pine
if both the arbites and mechanicum are taking the stage, are run of the mill rej...
Idk about the arbitres but iirc the skitarii are supposed to be extremely limited
Like, less than a hundred
sharp pine
but the majority of them will be way below your rank and file arbitrators and sk...
Also, no way. Ogryns with proper leadership and psykers are still above both
fierce marten
Less than 100?
sharp pine
IIRC, Hadron is getting onl a handful and upgrading them herself
spare saffron
Yeah, basically seems like they scraped the barrel just to keep the whole place from blowing apart, and hey, it worked.
Now reinforcements are arriving and maybe it'll change from "holy shit we're surviving, I guess" to "okay, take the city back, perhaps".
high pivot
Im leveling a new psyker anybody wanna squad up?
drowsy tusk
Im leveling a new psyker anybody wanna squad up?
If you’re around bit later gimme a shout
tough compass
The PDF and guard are still doing stuff. It's not just the Inquisition aiui