#ARPGs

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grizzled hamlet
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firestorm, siege mtx

fervent raptor
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Oh actually pelting is a shout

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I have Celestial Firestorm

grizzled hamlet
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oki, one hour till stream

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im gonna go do some groceries i think

rustic grotto
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I might actually return to PoE2 for swords

keen dagger
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it would be extremely fucking funny if they made Daggers the str/dex weapon and duelist came out as a dagger guy

fervent raptor
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10 casts/s with dual replica Nebulis for 1000+% inc damage intensifeyes

grizzled hamlet
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its live eyes

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the first edict

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WOMB TREE IN POE 2

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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Kalgur league

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pog

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god im so fucking hype

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this looks amazing

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no duelist

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ooh ezomyte crafting

carmine rampart
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lol no swords gg ggg

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(lighthearted, i'm not miffed)

grizzled hamlet
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this is boat league all over again

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sword league is the new boat league clearly

carmine rampart
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excited for new monk ascendancy

grizzled hamlet
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yeee

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and the ranger one too

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oh harbinger like encounters with the oath rune

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neat

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6 7

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oh so this is kinda beast crafting?

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wonder how it works in the endgame

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makes sense, runes are very kalguuran themed in poe

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oh ward

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on any armor

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oh

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its different

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its like a one shot protection kinda maybe?

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kalguuran skills :O

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ok so they effectively double the amount of uniques lol

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daaaaamn

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persistent metamods...

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this fucking rules

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ok so this is kinda expediton 2.0+

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BOAT LEAGUE IS REAL

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ocean expeditions...

hidden heron
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I'll admit the keywords have me a bit '???' but linked examples are ooogh

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I've been wanting to make a drood but <.< new monk..

grizzled hamlet
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it is time

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fixed point of interest on the atlas

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i like this
i did feel a bit lost in the end game

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atlas tree ascendancy????

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wild

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oh and easy swaps between the masters

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nice

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god i love what im hearing

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THE FUCKING VISUALS FOR DELIRIUM

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this goes so hard wtf

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i appreciate all time league mechanics gettins some kind of visible timer

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ok so this is pretty much poe 1 breach

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ported for poe 2 speifics

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oh wombgifts are now item type specific?

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as in amulet wombgift and belt wombgifts and so on

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instead of "item/unique/currency"

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ok so its
amulets/rings/belts/currency

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60 breach rings...

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loreweave??

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chat is saying grasping mail

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oh damn

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ritual rewards are just uniques and omens

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god this league will be so fucking cracked

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my full respect to chris for starting GGG
but god damn are mark and jonathan just cooking so hard lately

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oh league challenges are in poe 2 now!

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nice

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YOU CAN TAME UNIQUE BOSSES

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WTF

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(they need to be beasts but still)

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minion RF....

grizzled hamlet
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1.0 sometime next year after exilecon

keen dagger
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sad about no swords but this looks very exciting

solar vigil
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IN GAME BUILD GUIDES

fervent raptor
grizzled hamlet
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im expecting it next year

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exilecon is this year

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1.0 next year

fervent raptor
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Ah just had someone in another server say this year haha wasn't sure

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I'll watch the stream catch-up later

knotty glacier
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They were claiming this year

grizzled hamlet
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i think they said both in the stream
so im not clear

knotty glacier
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I'm very amused at the self own on swords

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I mean yes community over hype, but come on, I'm sure you could see this coming

fervent raptor
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I am pretty disappointed there are no new base classes

grizzled hamlet
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Speaking of chris

grizzled hamlet
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oh

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0.5.0 is the last one before 1.0

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so 1.0 probably this year?

fervent raptor
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Yeah, which is why I'm a tad disappointed about the classes haha

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Gating over half the melee weapons behind full release

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When one of the driving forces behind the development of the update-into-separate-release was making improvements to melee haha

grizzled hamlet
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ill be honest
theres a chance 1.0 doesnt have all weapons and classes either

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and you should be prepared for that

fervent raptor
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sure but like, something right?

grizzled hamlet
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we got a nearly full endgame rework
a new league
and 2 new ascendancies

fervent raptor
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honestly I expect 1.0 to at least have all the base classes and associated weapons, but lacking a lot of skills and ascendancies

keen dagger
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I expect the next release will have 1 more class and act 5 and we will get the final two classes as dlc

grizzled hamlet
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theyre not gonna do dlc classes

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it would be against their whole mtx philosophy

keen dagger
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I realized after I posted that that that implies they would cost money lol

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I meant to convey "in post-release patches" haha

grizzled hamlet
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ye

knotty glacier
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They've honestly all but stated that will be the case

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It's not entirely an approach I agree with, but you know

keen dagger
hollow geyser
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Chris gave us Brutal league and wow am I glad that's opt-in

keen dagger
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full video btw

keen dagger
solar vigil
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(maybe, maybe not idk)

keen dagger
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martial artist seems just generally good for melee monk

solar vigil
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Yeah

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It’s just that I’ve played monk a bunch

solar vigil
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since its 4 month leagues

grizzled hamlet
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in the interview with chris he confirmed that 0.5 is the last update before 1.0

solar vigil
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ah

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yeah i doubt we're gonna have all the classes in before release

grizzled hamlet
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probably not yeah
i expect a new story act and someone in the int/str slot

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altho
isnt druid str int

grizzled hamlet
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ye true

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we need a second class for
str/dex
str
str/int
int/dex

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and a bunch of classes need one extra ascendancy each

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what are we missing in terms of weapons?
Swords and what else?

keen dagger
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swords axes flails daggers

solar vigil
solar vigil
grizzled hamlet
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ok
swords will be natural with a second str/dex class

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daggers with a second int/dex class

solar vigil
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and claws maybe?

grizzled hamlet
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axes and flails with str and str/int

keen dagger
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yup

keen dagger
solar vigil
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as in, claws from poe 1

keen dagger
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(staves took their place as a weapon type in dex/int)

solar vigil
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proabably

keen dagger
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I dont imagine they will be coming back in the same form as in 1

solar vigil
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yeah

grizzled hamlet
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ok based on skill gems, they could add more categories later but still
Axe/flail/sword/dagger

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i do imagine with the animation framework in path 2 it will be easier to add new weapon classes

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since afaik a big limiter in path 1 is that theres a ton of very legacy systems when it comes to player models and animation

keen dagger
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yeah for sure

solar vigil
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i havent played spells at all in poe 2 yet, leaning towards plants disciple tbh

keen dagger
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water your plants :)

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I think Jenny did blood mage witch plants build last league

grizzled hamlet
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yeee

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its really fun

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might do it again

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idk yet

keen dagger
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I am probably doing huntress this league but not sure which ascendancy

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might just zon since ive not done anything with Spears yet

solar vigil
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i would bet theyre gonna do some event in a similar vein to phrecia or necro settlers in the interveneing time

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since 6 months is a long time

grizzled hamlet
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probably yeah

solar vigil
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i WANNA do martial artist but i wanna save monk for 1.0 and tbh i wanna be on a proven build witht this endgame rework. it will also be my first time doing endgame in poe 2

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i wanna eventually do a chonk build too but yeah

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chonk isnt really solid yet

keen dagger
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nah

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you can chonk it up chunky style

solar vigil
keen dagger
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warrior and druid are great at getting real chunky

solar vigil
keen dagger
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I uh. what

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I have no recommendations for chayula

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chonk means thicc

solar vigil
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I’ve seen it used as a portmanteau of “chayula monk”

keen dagger
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oh lmao

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that would make sense but I refuse to recognize it

rustic grotto
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I don't think I'm gonna jump on at league start but I'm more likely to hop on once I see how 0.5 looks after a couple of weeks or something

knotty glacier
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I'm probably gonna roll with some kind of disciple or varshta this time

solar vigil
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Oh I see

knotty glacier
grizzled hamlet
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oh apparently it was an ai summary lol

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theres a second one thats also ai

knotty glacier
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Ugh, damnit

fervent raptor
keen dagger
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these seem fun

knotty glacier
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Someone remind me of this in 3 days

carmine rampart
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o7

solar vigil
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hey so uh i need some crafting help in poe 1

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ive gotta craft a staff to swap to crit

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these mods

pine wedge
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are you in trade league?

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because % Increased Physical Damage is insanely rare on a staff

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well, ok looks like you can fake it with a veiled mod

solar vigil
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i assume the answer is essences?

pine wedge
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so, the easy way is buy a fractured base then essence

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150c

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the hard way involves doing veiled slams and tbh that's probably more effort than it's worth

solar vigil
pine wedge
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what's the price on an omen of connections?

solar vigil
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i dont see any on the market

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oh

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currency exchange

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duh

solar vigil
pine wedge
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so, lets call it 3 div to craft that staff. 1 div for the connections, 1 div for the base, 1 div for the essences

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just buy it

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ok, maybe 1 div on essences might be a bit high

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it's like .5 a div on essences

solar vigil
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i ran outta gold

pine wedge
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then fix that lol. You can't craft anything without gold either because you need it for the exchange.

solar vigil
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yeah

grizzled hamlet
grizzled hamlet
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you know

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im not as certain about this one
but
im like 60-70% sure theyll add the build guide system to poe 1 next

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the same way they tested trading in poe 2 first and then added it to poe 1

rustic grotto
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Would be cool

grizzled hamlet
rustic grotto
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Not quite what I was expecting from the word "streamlining"

keen dagger
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yeah thats not what that means haha

grizzled hamlet
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It's a very GGG streamlining that's for sure

keen dagger
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there's a bit of streamlining i guess

grizzled hamlet
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It'll take them a few more years to go "so yeah second character and forward for each league will have a shorter campaign" or something

keen dagger
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that would be so awesome

rustic grotto
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God fucking please

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"we put yellow paint" just kinda strikes me as...idk, feels like missing the point

eager coralBOT
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I swear to god someone at GGG considers these map designs their baby

Jenny (she/her) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883729070727189 message) It's a very GGG streamlining that's for sure

grizzled hamlet
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they also might be holding it back till all the story acts are properly out?

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idk

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another posibility is theyll shrink the acts somewhat when the next one comes out

carmine rampart
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every arpg since diablo 3 wants to throw out the baby with the bathwater and not acknowledge that it had good mechanics like variable campaigns

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poe especially needs a shorter campaign for alts lol

rugged venture
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d3 is my 🐐

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best arpg in my opinion

rustic grotto
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D4 also has a campaign skip

fervent raptor
knotty glacier
grizzled hamlet
carmine rampart
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@knotty glacier stash tab sale up

knotty glacier
grizzled hamlet
grizzled hamlet
hollow geyser
knotty glacier
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New uniques

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The gloves let you use mace skills without a weapon, and scale physical damage based on bosses you've killed on the world map

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Also strength scaling on your unarmed attacks

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Also also these are an ezoymyte unique, so... Synergies

keen dagger
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the math on these seems very good

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its tough to beat a 2h mace and a shield though for sure

solar vigil
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how does poe 1 calculate "main hand chance to hit"/"chance to hit evasive monsters" while in my hideout

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does it just go off of my level?

keen dagger
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I believe it assumes a monster level based off of your level yes

solar vigil
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im level 85 rn, and i know things only go up to 84, so should i not worry that this is 99%

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should i go off of what pob tells me

keen dagger
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pretty much always trust PoB over in-game stats

pine wedge
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especially since there are ways to increase accuracy via debuffs you've applied

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so there can be parts of the equation that you're missing via the player only stats

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IIRC my LS character from Settlers had like a 90% chance to hit in game but was actually 100% in actuality when the conditional mods where accounted for

solar vigil
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thats fair

pine wedge
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and where this page is useful (campaign and low level maps where you're just throwing ground loot on to get your shit functional) you can ignore the evasive monsters line

solar vigil
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ok

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uh

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if im in endgame should i have the evasive monsters line at 100?

pine wedge
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nah

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unless you need to hit every single attack. But most attack builds swing fast enough that missing every once and a while isn't a big issue for general mapping. Actual bosses can't get "evasive"

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and if they do have a jacked evasion stat from a modifier to the point where it's causing issues

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uh

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regex that mod so you don't get it again

grizzled hamlet
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Accuracy is a property of attack hits. Together with the target's evasion, it is used to calculate an attack's chance to hit. Spells do not benefit from accuracy, as they cannot be evaded.
Accuracy can be gained from various sources, such as equipment, buffs, passives, and skills. Player characters inherently gain 2 base accuracy per level, and...

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as for the evasion it assumes for a monster

solar vigil
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so i assume that while in my hideout it uses my level, but if im in an area it uses the area level?

grizzled hamlet
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if the % changes between hideout and an area, i assume so?

grizzled hamlet
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it might use the hideout area level but no idea what that is

fervent raptor
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It should tell you when you press tab like any other area, no?

grizzled hamlet
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it does!

solar vigil
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how much acc do you need for pinnacle bosses?

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(not ubers)

hollow geyser
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Path of Building will tell you good, you can set a Pinnacle as the target

grizzled hamlet
keen dagger
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these fucking click bait titles istg

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I like how they keep setting themselves up with more work with some of these ascendancies

knotty glacier
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Oh, this is just repeated information for the thingy by the looks of it

strong sierra
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Is Chrono not going to suck now?

fervent raptor
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TBC

keen dagger
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soup is ready

knotty glacier
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Added 3 Fluxes which can be crafted from Remnants to transform the resistances on your items from one element to another.

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"Some non-amulet Delirium Uniques now drop with the Raven-Touched modifier allowing them to be instilled."

keen dagger
fervent raptor
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Oh hey it's one of the most useful parts of harvest

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Arguably the most useful part of harvest

knotty glacier
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Honestly bummed there's no changes to Rapid Shot

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Added 21 Kalguuran Skills that can be crafted from Remnants: Animus Exchange, Animus Splinters, Bitter Dead, Conductive Runes, Detonate Living, Eternal March, Explosive Transmutation, Fragments of the Past, Frostflame Nova, Grim Pillars, Hollow Shell, Leylines, Powered by Verisium, Refutation, Remnants of Kalguur, Repulsion, Runic Reprieve, Skyfall, Triskelion Cascade, Verisium Manifestations, and Voltaic Barrier.

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Sir!?

keen dagger
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thats just a poe1 chest affix

fervent raptor
knotty glacier
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Still think i'm going disciple of varshata, but damn if i'm not tempted

knotty glacier
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...Yeah, really, inceasingly tempted by monk

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I like melee and i dont realyl lkike caster stuff as much, even though SUMMON DJINN is fun

eager coralBOT
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Hollow Focus Technique is literally "Fix Quarterstaff trigger issues" the ascension node. Like, you can actually trigger culling in most bosses with that.

knotty glacier
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Feels like you grab Stonefist first, given how strong that is

fervent raptor
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Hollow Palm Stonefist seems like it'll be spicy for acts

knotty glacier
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Doh

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Ignore that

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I was getting stonefist and facebreaker confused

knotty glacier
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and then you ahve the freedom to build a good weapon etc

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Or if stonefist is good enough with hollow palm

fervent raptor
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I can't see Hollow Palm being so good as to ignore quarterstaffs all the way through tbh, but it might depend on what cool Stonefist unique version there are

knotty glacier
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Right, i think you would transtion out in mid/early maps

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but that's fine

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ggg did show a stonefist/hollow palm end game build, but who knows if that's viable

fervent raptor
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It's entirely possible that it's fine

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I just don't see it being optimal

knotty glacier
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Oh, sure, i dont think it's likeyl to be otpimal at al;l

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you loose so many stats

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thoguh it's posisble there's osmething crazy crazy with stonefist and facebreaker or hte ilk

fervent raptor
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Given the way the mods changed on the armour base they showed with Stonefist, there might be something interesting there

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Equally it's probably an interaction they've balanced very specifically, so who knows

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They did show the Giant's Blood gloves becoming Hollow Palm, and Thunderfist became better and cold focused, too

knotty glacier
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Yeah, guess we'll find out

knotty glacier
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Okay, testing out sorc start in ssf for a better sense of leauge start condtions...

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Sure

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This is def how it'll go

fervent raptor
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For those on the fence

rustic grotto
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I am very intrigued by martial artist

fervent raptor
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Do you have a key already, Alice?

rustic grotto
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Oh yeah

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I jumped on PoE2 back during 0.1 and burned out hard during Act 2

fervent raptor
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Fair

rustic grotto
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Enough time has passed for GGG to make changes that I'm willing to give it a shot again

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Even if I do disagree with some of their design decisions

grizzled hamlet
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im excited to try the endgame changes
i got to endgame last season and it was ok
but it did feel very unguided compared to poe 1

knotty glacier
# rustic grotto I am very intrigued by martial artist

Doing some early testing, Monk going glacial Cascade into hollow Palm + wind punch (I can't remember the actual name) & staggering Palm with Brink 1 (makes it so that wind punch thingy can't stun). With valuting impact is pretty good

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Also funny because you just airbender faces off

rustic grotto
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Seems like a lot of effort not to put a crafting bench in guys

knotty glacier
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It doesn't need to do a lot more than that, just help me understand what each action is doing

grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
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Smh not actually giving the reason but showing it on the thumbmail

grizzled hamlet
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LOL

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its not even "up the rate to match the temple"
its "changed it so comparisons arent valid"

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excellent

fervent raptor
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Yeah it's very much not going to match the temple rate

knotty glacier
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Very big, very nice change

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Poe2 Skill tree for .5, you can toggle on what's new as well

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Daaaamn

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there are some really good elemental/armor nodes down in the Merc areea now

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There's a cluster that each provide <stat> , 8% relevant resistance, 30% armor provides elemental damage res, and then a final one that's 20% chaos armor and 8% chaos res.

desert inlet
keen dagger
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c beams is a very funny name for a space ship game

desert inlet
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it's the BEST name

grizzled hamlet
knotty glacier
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Beat me to it!

grizzled hamlet
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Return of the Ancients introduces powerful new quality-of-life improvements to Path of Exile 2, including Atlas Search, Trade Quick-Search, and the new Fragment Tab.

⚔️ Navigate the Atlas faster with intuitive search tools
💎 Streamline item trading with Trade Quick-Search
🧩 Organize fragments more efficiently with the new Fragment Tab...

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grizzled hamlet
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The Runes of Aldur League introduces Remnant encounters with powerful rewards, including the new Kalguuran Gems.

These rune-infused skill gems combine ancient Kalguuran runeshapes with Wraeclast magic and are powered by Runic Ward instead of Mana.

Discover new build options in Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients, launching on May 29 PDT.
...

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knotty glacier
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You no longer get offered Ritual Altar rewards after defeating the King in the Mists in Act 1 Freythorn.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

keen dagger
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big whup?

knotty glacier
keen dagger
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lol

fervent raptor
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One day before PoE2 and a guy in our poe1 private league drops two Kalandra's Touch which I've been after all league

keen dagger
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a good omen!

fervent raptor
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right I now just need a certain cluster to hit this

rustic grotto
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What the fuck

grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
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and that's without the easy trade synth rings, let alone the good ones

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and a synth shield

pine wedge
grizzled hamlet
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Return of the Ancients introduces a major overhaul to the Atlas endgame experience in Path of Exile 2.

Alongside these changes comes Masters of the Atlas - a brand-new Ascendancy-style progression system for the endgame. Align yourself with powerful masters such as Jado of the Order of the Djinn or the legendary monster hunter Hilda, each grant...

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surely these endgame masters that give us quests and help us will never betray us

fervent raptor
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Please Exile, go and kill this rare without damaging any of the mobs around it

knotty glacier
keen dagger
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thats very cute

knotty glacier
fervent raptor
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My friend was looking at using Hollow Form with mace skills to do shenanigans, but stopped when he ended up getting attack times over like 3s lol

fervent raptor
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Steam patch up!

fervent raptor
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Standalone up!

grizzled hamlet
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POG

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QUEUE UP

fervent raptor
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Still at work for 5 hours 🥹

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I had to schedule a task to open PoE2 to patch in the meantime haha

knotty glacier
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Speed it up

grizzled hamlet
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go into fubgun chat, and convince everyone that queue is bugged and that they should restart their game

knotty glacier
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Murder? Orbital strike? Targeted emp?

glacial anvil
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time for the old classic

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did you know alt-f4 jumps you up the queue?

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hit em with that

grizzled hamlet
knotty glacier
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What ifi show them picutres of my cat if they leave the que?

glacial anvil
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I'm at 32k

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I'll leave queue for a cat picture

knotty glacier
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(please dont actually leave que)

glacial anvil
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caaaat

knotty glacier
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Bonus: idiot other sibling.

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(Yes, she has her head stuck in a coke can box)

glacial anvil
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well if I can't leave queue as promised let me at least trade

knotty glacier
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here she is being more normal

glacial anvil
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awwww

knotty glacier
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eg, a feral meanace to all fingles

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(And yes, she has a bung eye - former street kitten)

glacial anvil
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they're both very precious, thanks for cat pics!

rustic grotto
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I'm eepy so if I'm gonna jump in it'll be tomorrow now

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At least there will be no queue

knotty glacier
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You're welcome. They're actually brother and sister, cat genetics are hilarious

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And...here..we...go.

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Que is thankfully moving fast

grizzled hamlet
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rip my spot

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my fps decided to be single digit for some reason???

knotty glacier
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Oh nooo

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fwiw, i'm arleady d own to 15k remaining folks

grizzled hamlet
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ye poe queue moves quick

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started at 32k

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at 30k now

knotty glacier
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just 2k p;eople left ahead of me now

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also laughign my arse off, have a hardcore stream up

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and just now "Player has died at level 2 at postion 25 on the ladder"

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RIP bozo.

glacial flume
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What builds are people starting with this league? I might try unarmed martial artist monk or bear druid this time around

fervent raptor
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I'm probably going to hollow palm MA through acts

knotty glacier
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Similar to what i'm doing. using Wind Blast as my main thing for now

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I just got my first Kalguraan skill

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COncussive Runes

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my stunning palm is even more kaboomey

carmine rampart
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i do NOT plan my build. i do NOT make league starters. i do NOT read guides. i do NOT wait for patches. I SAY "FUCK IT, WE BALL." and if my build is UNPLAYABLE in maps, i drop the game until next season

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(bit if it wasn't obvious)

fervent raptor
keen dagger
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noooooo

knotty glacier
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Facebreakers with fists of stone - switchs the strength scaling to int scaling, gives you a very powerful trigger skill that fires on heavy stuns

fervent raptor
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New chase unique spoiler intensifeyes

carmine rampart
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oh yeah stash tab sale still ongoing for 2 days

solar vigil
fervent raptor
solar vigil
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yeah i saw

solar vigil
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||wild that it's 4 buffs guaranteed||

knotty glacier
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Fists of stone provides some pretty solid gains.

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This is what they are normally

keen dagger
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looking good

rustic grotto
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Urgh I forgot how much I disliked the PoE2 early game
It's not exactly much better in PoE1 especially at league start but still

knotty glacier
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@rustic grotto Whatcha playing? I found very, very early monk was rough here, but it pretty quickly smoothed out

rustic grotto
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Monk, yeah

fervent raptor
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Quarterstaff specifically sucks

rustic grotto
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Should I use something else for early levels then?

knotty glacier
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@rustic grotto it smooths out hte moment you get Wind Blast

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but if you really can't stand glaical cascade/frozen locus as your intial combo

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just use a spear nad buckler

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Whirling Slash and Tornado will get you through to Wind Blast/Staggering Palm

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once you have that,you can put Brink in Wind Blast and use Staggering palm to exploee things

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But honestly, Glacial/Locus isnt that bad - Locus and a roll away, then fire a glaical back at it kills most stuff

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just keep quaterstaff attack socketed to beat the shit out of uniques

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(and still do this when you have Wind blast - evnetually you can add in Tempest Flurry/ICe Strike to replace mquaterstaff attack)

knotty glacier
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Charged Staff with Hollow Palm is very funny

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you just get lighting kataars

knotty glacier
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Woo, finally goty whirling assualt

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thati s fun

knotty glacier
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hahaha

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this is so good

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...also i really want Alith's chimes, just to reduce the number of buttons i have to press xd

solar vigil
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Didn’t they say there was gonna be some kind of event later on in the league?

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I’d assume like necro settlers/phrecia?

knotty glacier
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IK have no idea what you do with this, but neat!

knotty glacier
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as i understand it, teh goal is going to be knocking the blaance into shape, so they'll have somethingb to get people back, redoing balance and getting that tested, etc

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(Tehy've been pretty cl;ear in the interviews that balance has fallen behind, etc)

solar vigil
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Perfect

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Since I wanna do varashta plants this league but also wanna knock off a chonk build in the meantime

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I’m saving martial artist for 1.0

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The ||secret node for chonk|| looks inchresting

knotty glacier
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My hope is they'll have Duelist in the game at 1.0, so i'll have a fun stabby swords guy to run

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Or i can just pull out ye olde reliable: GRUMPY PANTS MCGEEE (merc)

knotty glacier
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Is there any lore on what's up with the kalguraan's king and why theyt're all so DO NOT TALK ABOUT THIS SPOOKY MFer?

fervent raptor
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lmao my gloves now have more ev/es than my body armour does

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stonefist gloves are weeeeeird

keen dagger
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vivid stampede is pretty great so far

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tonne of shocked ground generation and lots of aoe clear damage

solar vigil
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On a scale of one to gone, reduced to atoms how hard is martial artist gonna get nerfed

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I wanna save it for 1.0 but I am very tempted to play it now

fervent raptor
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I don't think it's doing anything so strong as to be nerfed

solar vigil
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ok

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hollow form whirling strike is blowing up the ENTIRE SCREEN though

keen dagger
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thats kinda just what late game poe build do :P

solar vigil
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thats fair

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i assume way of the stonefist lochonial caress is gonna get nerfed tho, its automatic power charge generation

keen dagger
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r u ur own ally in poe2

solar vigil
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the clones from hollow form copy your gear

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ok lore question

keen dagger
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ah I see!

solar vigil
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i assume chayula isnt EVIL evil but not exactly benevolent right

keen dagger
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definitely not benevolent

solar vigil
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yeah

keen dagger
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in 1 it straight up destroys and recreates ailith at its whim

knotty glacier
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If you do the new breach stuff, you should get to talk to it a chunk

keen dagger
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ah yeah thats true

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if so and you havent met it yet I dont want to spoil

fervent raptor
knotty glacier
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So, if you're using something to trigger kalguran skills, tehy dont cost any runic ward

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unsure if bug or very nice

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makes Hand of chulya punching the reuplsuion curse onto things funny

keen dagger
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oh nice, one of the plunder island runestones dropped a div

fervent raptor
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If anything gets nerfed it's gonna be the Tamed Monkey

keen dagger
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mr one shot from the jungle ruins?

knotty glacier
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I feel vaugely bummed that Hollow Form tehcnique seems to be incredibly dominant as the way to do things with Martial Artist

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i dont really wanna wander around channeling things, but it does seem lkike it is bonkers strong

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...gonna keep tryign to make DING DING DING DING DING DING work before i give up though

keen dagger
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the only thing I can think of that is close is tornado bird

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or the ice version

knotty glacier
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This is what we like to see.

knotty glacier
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Holy shit

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i beat my 3rd asc at level 60 without any honor res (Because i fucked up)

eager coralBOT
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I just grabbed the wetlands chimera and it is.... glorious. My girlfriend was expecting it to get smaller on taming. It did not. I'm still in campaign but that plus bear is silly. I now have an every element minion. it feels wrong to do this.

nik that was heizen ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883729070727189 message) it does seem like at the very least silverfist should be brought down a bit in tamed power so that y…

knotty glacier
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That is fantastic ❤️

eager coralBOT
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my other option is grab the count for pure frozen application for the fucked up multielement hybrid build I've janked together.

knotty glacier
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Live your BIG FRIEND DREAMS

eager coralBOT
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Aww, the count isn't tameable. Damn it.

knotty glacier
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Contiune to lowkey hate the stat requirements in this game =/

knotty glacier
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Hmm

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I think the real problem with EXTRA BELLS is it's actually hard to tell how much it's doin'

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WTf.

fervent raptor
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I want the Northwind for stonefist

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It has the additional flat per level mod and +3-6% base unarmed crit chance

knotty glacier
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Eeey, first divine.

knotty glacier
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(though i'm not using it >.>)

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Oh, correction, it's North paw i have

knotty glacier
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at least going by the in game stuff, they're a pretty serious dps loss currently for me

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Compared to this solid weapon i'm using

fervent raptor
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Oh yes, those

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Sure, I do think Hollow Palm is generally an early to mid build without major investment

knotty glacier
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Oh, yeah, i switched off early act 4 iirc?

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possibly even late act 3

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when i found a uater staff that gave me more deeps

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Also, turns out it's opoissible to get a 4 rune combo that just gives you a divine orb

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Okay, note to self: when they say armor above level 65 will get converted to having runic ward on it

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they mean the vast majority of it will get converted >.<

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You live and you elarn, lol

knotty glacier
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oh, this is gonna get nerfed

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you can put the repulsion curse into Blapshmepy, byupassing it's cost

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and permantly and ocsntatly giving things it's effect

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and then you just.. use anything that can hit rapidly

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like i duno

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Whirling.

knotty glacier
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Hahah what the fuck

keen dagger
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MORE defenses?

fervent raptor
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Yeah it's nuts

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The %inc mods on gloves become that

keen dagger
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I guess that makes sense to buff the shit out of defenses on gloves since usually you do not want them at all

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on an attack build

fervent raptor
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Stonefists are also pretty interesting for casters

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I wanted to look at the rest of the ascendancy to see if it was viable to do spells at all (and if it's actually worth it)

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And the answer is no - 5/8 notables are specific to attacking

grizzled hamlet
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monke

keen dagger
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yoon was hella remorseful this run

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the stellar amulet was good for me too but im taking the money lol

knotty glacier
# keen dagger MORE defenses?

It's more the "all damage for freeze and chill" bit. I put those on and it's actually a serious extra defensive layer. Map bosses aren't getting to play, they're either stunned or frozen

knotty glacier
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So the Blashmey/Repulsion combo is very silly

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and goes off from anything doing damage

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....like thorns

knotty glacier
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Deffo noting the new improved Divine drop rate

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I'm up to 4 raw div drops (1 from a rune, the rest just found in the world)

keen dagger
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this is the most currency I ever came into maps with lol

knotty glacier
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Okay, apprently level 5 maps is where i start exploding, ahving basically refused to upgrade my gear until now (That wasnt my weapon)

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lol

keen dagger
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thats about when im planning to do my respec and upgrade stuff other than my spear haha

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I got to level 64 and spent 10ex on a spear upgrade since I maxed resists in campaign and I'm hoping not to spend anything else until 75 or so

knotty glacier
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I spent a div on a good weapon when i noticed my damage tanking, but i did the usual trick of searching for a weapon that wasn't qualitied and sockted

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so i could buy up somehting much higher budget (The weapon isn ow worth like 2 div, from a price search)

knotty glacier
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Got my first fancy amulet and crafted it into this throguh... random exalt slamming

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so that's nice!

knotty glacier
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...The economy in htis game is very confusing

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Last season: Defiance of Destiny, crazy expensive

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this season, a humble 18 exalts or so?

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(I know this because my temple has one waiting for me to pick up)

fervent raptor
keen dagger
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path of exile finally has an MMRP! Clueless

fervent raptor
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Huh, just looking at some of the combo supports: why would you use Culmination 2 over Combo Finisher 2?

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Sure you can use the skill without getting to max combo on Culmination, but if you're doing that at 4 combo or less it's at most a 16% more support, and if you're using it at 5-9 combo it's just worse than Combo Finisher

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(looking at MA combo stuff to buff Remnants of the Past, which is kinda nutty as a damage supplement)

fervent raptor
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Huh, I wonder if you can use Mantra of Destruction to empower a weapon-agnostic skill

grand valve
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playing POE2 again

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decided to do witch over ranger

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what can you do with witch and should i go blood mage lich or infernalist

keen dagger
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poe2 is very much a game where you can get by until endgame just winging it

knotty glacier
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Bricking my whirling assault from using combo would be bad. Constantly feeding combo it would have a bunch of benefits

fervent raptor
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I've discovered that the main answer is that Combo Finisher can only support Strikes, while Culmination can support any type of melee attack

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Eh, I can't see Culmination being useful on any kind of skill that you might want to be able to spam

grand valve
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I see people talking about essence drain and minions mostly for witch

fervent raptor
keen dagger
frigid kernel
fervent raptor
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Probably? I'm not au fait with dot supports in poe2

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It's a tad awkward as you need to physically hit enemies with your weapon to build combo unless you're a Martial Artist, so maces are likely going to be too slow

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Not sure about spear dots

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(you also lose combo when you weapon swap)

keen dagger
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get this youtuber some lower case letters

rustic grotto
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I burned out in act 2 again blobcat_sad

knotty glacier
rustic grotto
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Monk

knotty glacier
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Oh, yes, Monk is rough to level with.

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If you're not familiar with poe2s systems and shenanigans

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Why did you burn out, would you say? Fights taking too long, or ?

rustic grotto
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Combination of things really
I don't think it's that fights take too long, it's more that I don't like how...idk slow? everything is, even the dodge roll feels like rolling through sludge most of the time
Also the areas are still way too big

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I think there might just be too many bosses with big health bars too

knotty glacier
fervent raptor
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It's very jarring to play coming from poe1

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And quarterstaffs particularly rely too much on clunky combo gameplay in the first couple of acts

rustic grotto
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I wouldn't say the bosses were difficult (aside from some visual clarity issues), but how the whole thing comes to a screeching halt because there's another circular arena in the area with a boss that I have to spend some time punching to death before getting back to finding PoIs (the bit that probably resulted in my ~4 hour act 1 completion time)

glacial anvil
knotty glacier
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Yeah, i think i was really helped out b y running monk on SSF late last leauge to figure out whati was doing

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so ik new to go Glacical Cascade + Frozen Lotus -> Staggering Strike + Wind Blast withbasic attack as myh boss killer -> basic attack replaced by Tempest Flurry, etc

glacial anvil
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I'm still kinda going with those same 4 skills + I think the ice combo instead of the lightning combo, but the combination of the illusory martial artist bells and having an actually good weapon made it feel way better than before that

fervent raptor
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I think QS definitely has an issue at the start with how exactly to fold all the skills together

knotty glacier
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Yeah, from a game design perspective, i do not think the starter skills are well put together

fervent raptor
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2 of the lvl 1 gems are functionally unusable as actual first skills (Killing Palm, Frozen Locus), Falling Thunder feels very bad as a main skill without power charges, and Glacial Cascade requires precise positioning to actually do damage (which does not play nice with basic enemies being quite mobile)

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The idea is clearly to use KP for FT charges, but runs into the problem of getting enemies into cull range to begin with (and being bad for bosses); and using Frozen Locus to give Glacial Cascade a better damage zone, but it's still clunky with mobile enemies

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Two of the level 3 gems are designed to work together in the same way (Wind Blast to set up stuns for Staggering Palm, which also isn't great for bosses), and then Tempest Bell which you can't generate combo for using skills unless you spam the Palms

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So telling people they need to combo two skills for clear and then two different skills for bosses is not particularly appealing

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Then you add act 1 being flask simulator so you're looking at 6 buttons for a build to feel good, so naturally people are going to bin off one of the skill pairs and just deal with the clunk

knotty glacier
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Frozen locus and glacial cascade works togther, but it's not elegant

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3 more div until i get Ailith's chimes

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then i can actually work on upgrading my shitty armor

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But first i think i am gonna go get my fourth asscendancy

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I will say

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i know this build is doing well

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because after an epic fuckup, i still got my third ascenay in sekehemas

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as am elee

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with no honor res

eager coralBOT
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My girlfriend's entire monk starter essentially did not function until like, halfway through act 2. Basically did no damage during boss fights.

Meanwhile I just tossed together a few random huntress skills as a holdover and was doing generally fine

weirdfool ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883729070727189 message) 2 of the lvl 1 gems are functionally unusable as actual first skills (Killing Palm, Frozen Locus), F…

carmine rampart
eager coralBOT
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It turns out there's a lot of parryable boss attacks you would not expect to be parryable

fervent raptor
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honestly the best bossing skill with QS is uh

Basic Attack

eager coralBOT
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I was pulling at least one "RULES OF NATURE" per 10 seconds, which is fascinatingly more than I thought back when huntress first came out

Why can I parry a flamethrower? Don't know, too beyond mortal to care

knotty glacier
carmine rampart
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ikr

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i wanted to keep my buckler but i'm already juggling whirlwind tornadoes and shock procs with lightning spear + lance

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i coooould make one of those consume parry instead of using disengage

eager coralBOT
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Honestly even if I get this build to graduate out of frenzy charges I think I'll still keep parry just for the interrupt capability, because some parried attacks cancel ALL further associated mechanics and not just what hit you

carmine rampart
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yeah it's real nice

eager coralBOT
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Even if not, sometimes you just get wild stuff like parrying the ground explosion from the first sehkema trial boss.

knotty glacier
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Current character and tree if anyone's curious

eager coralBOT
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The funniest part is in the league where huntress released, I tried to do a melee-less throw build with no parrying, and basically trashed it before the end of act 1

This time? Parry good

knotty glacier
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Hullo, yes, i would like: Jewel.

glacial anvil
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my friend is confused about an interaction they're seeing in poe2, and I was wondering if anyone here would know what's going on

they have fireball and summon raging spirits

summon raging spirits says a fire projectile hitting an enemy will summon 1 spirit, and an area fire spell will summon a spirit based on its radius (1 spirit / 1.5 m, and their fireball is currently 1.7 m)

if they use fireball and hit a wall, they summon 1 spirit, which implies to them that the aoe part of fireball is summoning a spirit

but then if they use fireball and hit an enemy, it still summons 1 spirit, so it seems like the projectile part isn't summoning a spirit

any clue what's going on there?

grizzled hamlet
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What happens if they hit a group of enemies

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It might be the case that one single enemy can't get hit by both projectile and aoe

glacial anvil
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still just one

grizzled hamlet
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Probably just takes the max between projectile hit and aoe hit and spawns that per cast then?

glacial anvil
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yea maybe

knotty glacier
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Whoof.

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beat the bloody arbiter of flame

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that is not a fun fight as melee

knotty glacier
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That embarssing moment when yo urealize a: Your herald of thunder isnt doing anyhting because you dont really shock that much

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and b: you could be using repulsion still, whcih also increases your single target dps by a fair chunk

fervent raptor
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Apparently fluxes can dupe mods

hollow geyser
fervent raptor
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huh there's a hidden passive in the monk side of the tree

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you need to allocate both the notables and it appears

keen dagger
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huh!

knotty glacier
knotty glacier
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You know

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i'm sure there's better uses for the monk'sr rune slots

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but just strapping an extra 300 hp to yourself is pretty frigging nice

knotty glacier
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and aztiri down

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got her boots, a divine, two archetiet orbs, a core destabilier and a siphoner

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so not bad

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Current state of the character if anyone;'s curious

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need to replace a ring, my helmet, amulet

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I lucked into this ridiclous thing, so that was nice

fervent raptor
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saw the prefixes, gasped, then saw the suffixes

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just chaos orbed the T7 Int into... T8 Int

knotty glacier
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Yay!

fervent raptor
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mfw my toon insults me

fervent raptor