i wonder if you still get the eldritch voidstone from killing story eater and exarch
#ARPGs
solar vigil
or if you have to do real eater and exarch
and same for the originator voidstone
but im assuming its complete campaign > get to t16 > kill eater/exarch > kill the memory bosses > kill shaper and elder > kill maven > nightmare maps > ubers
because youre fininshing up the eldrtich questline right as you get into eagon's
and maven is DEFINITLEY harder than elder and shaper
so doing elder and shaper third is probably whats intended
luckily you dont have to kill uber elder for decayed voidstone
just both of the single bosses once each
i am very excited to try out the new atlas progression
and im curious if the endgame rework in poe 2 will have similar notes/feel (but infinite!)
keen dagger
how much am I missing out if I dont bother to learn the shipping mechanics
fervent raptor
how much am I missing out if I dont bother to learn the shipping mechanics
Oh Kingsmarch? Prior to 3.28 you were essentially inting, as of 3.28 it just means you don't need to put it on your atlas tree
If you're ssf, shipping is the source of tattoos and runegrafts
To elaborate, there are two categories of shipping goods: ores and crops
Ores you find in maps and are the focus of everything Kingsmarch related on the atlas tree and Kingsmarch scarabs, but the reward for shipping them was equipment items (usually rares or common uniques), so nobody really bothered to ship them
Crops you generate passively as long as you keep feeding your town (mass amounts of) gold, and the shipping reward was currency items, so it was very much the focus of strats to generate divines and mirror shards and there was essentially no excuse not to do it
3.28 flips those rewards, so if you don't plan on making Kingsmarch ores part of your mapping strategy then you don't need to care about shipping
solar vigil
So holy hammers inquisitor look real 👀
fervent raptor
Couple of interesting looking bits
Holy Strike Wilma's could be very funny, Corrupted Bannerman if the exceptional supports aren't too rare
Frostmage support massively simplifies Lightpoacher tech
Very interested in the new trans shock nova they were showcasing in the background of the content reveal
Who knows what Reliquarians are going to get up to
frigid kernel
i'm gonna go pyroclast miens on my reliquarina
keen dagger
To elaborate, there are two categories of shipping goods: ores and crops
Ores y...
thank you for the in depth response!
fervent raptor
no probs
the background stuff for Kingsmarch is now just mappers and disenchanting to get thaum dust for recombinating
both of which are just gold sinks
hollow geyser
Ores being the currency generator now will make doing the ore encounters more rewarding, it sure was nice getting a bajillion chromes from old crops shipping
fervent raptor
it makes sense, and probably should have been that way round to begin with
I actually quite like doing ores in maps for the bismuths and bonus mobs, so it going towards currency is a nice plus
hollow geyser
They're pretty intense fights for sure
solar vigil
apparently there's wormblaster holy sweep tech?
fervent raptor
I'm guessing it's just for shotgunning by constantly dropping hammers on worms next to a boss
solar vigil
I'm guessing it's just for shotgunning by constantly dropping hammers on worms n...
i see
grizzled hamlet
You can just get
Spell life on hit for free
Free spell impale too
This is a busted af ascendancy
fervent raptor
It's pretty wild
solar vigil
Reddit
pine wedge
The astral projector node is actually better than the ring
the ring has 20% less area of effect
while the node has 25% increased
keen dagger
scion looking wild
pine wedge
and it's for Spell Skills instead of Nova Spells
keen dagger
im so tuned out of poe 1 I have no idea what id build the reliquarian like
fervent raptor
keen dagger
bruh
fervent raptor
Still sane, exile?
grizzled hamlet
LOL
frigid kernel
i'll definitely be starting pyroclast mines reliquarian
+2 levels, 40% aoe, 15% reservation eff from victario, +2 projectiles from the topside thing, nova auto targeting and 25% aoe from projector
might end up double corrupting a march of the legion and run a funny 4l
or double corrupt a geofri's crest
not the crest
the other armor es unique that gives +2 all gems
honorhome
corrupting an honourhome to get another +2 for pyroclast mine is not hard because the gem has so many tags
17% of vaal implicits on an honorhome will be good for pyroclast
so that would be about 3% of double corrupts that roll for double implicit...
if i could get lower item level ones it would be a lot easier though
can chance them with low level bases
fervent raptor
Reliq looks like a very good ascendancy to play first
Doesn't matter what direction you're taking a build, you can get some crazy useful effects to supplement you while you have starter equipment
fervent raptor
Might look at putting together a lifestack-ish Reliq
40% recoup is way over the minimum needed for PB, Burden of Shadows gives a good chunk of added chaos for very little cost, pick a useful jewellery or bloodline for the last ascendancy point
Can scale well later with like, Rathpith and Dissolution
fervent raptor
At a very achievable 6k life, Burden of Shadows adds 300 flat chaos to spells, which is the equivalent of three and a half T1 wand modifiers
grizzled hamlet
grizzled hamlet
i'll definitely be starting pyroclast mines reliquarian
i might honestly copy you on this lol
pine wedge
Yeah, people are noticing that interaction. Sirgog mentioned it as well.
It's definitely a good post-league start choice.
grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
Shock Nova of Procession looks super good
fervent raptor
A 20/20 has like, 4600 base DPS if you get a single overlap the repeats eat cast time nvm
Which seems very reasonable to do
fervent raptor
??
A 21 shockwave atm can proc at a rate of once per 0.72s and does 343% damage
And also AXES
grizzled hamlet
ye its real nice
could probably level with regular shockwave, and then upgrade to void + axe when you get it
fervent raptor
Wonder if you could multiproc it with Holy Hammer or Sweep or somesuch
With the delay on the things dropping
grizzled hamlet
the CWS goat is here https://youtu.be/l12OxqCLcE4
fervent raptor
Ooh
We'll showcase them tomorrow (Thursday NZT). While I'm here, just wanted to note that we are aware of the feedback regarding challenge rewards and are planning to introduce four different cosmetic rewards next league rather than pieces from a single Armour Set. Going forward, we are keen to have a rotation of challenge rewards, where one league would feature an Armour Set and the next one would feature a selection of different microtransactions.```dice roll says to league start holy man attacks
pine wedge
I'm thinking some sort of ranger wander or new scion nonsense
fervent raptor
fervent raptor
fervent raptor
Yeah potentially nutso
Hopefully it won't be so rare that you can't just blast weird uniques to hope for something great
fervent raptor
Oh huh you can get +75% effect of consecrated ground on the tree now
That's like, 25% increased damage taken by enemies and 8.75% life/es regen on an inquis
fervent raptor
dawn spruce
Smoking the shit that made vaal unstable
fervent raptor
New content alert
grizzled hamlet
kalguur timelines jewel :o
fervent raptor
I think it's from mirage legions?
The belt mod and corpse from mirage abyss and ritual, respectively
Ooh Sentinel of Radiance now persists between areas
grizzled hamlet
we have the technology
fervent raptor
fervent raptor
Ooooh might finally do my dual Vulconus dagger detonation build on Reliq
Astral on treeeeee
And a start much closer to Avatar of Fire
rustic grotto
When does the league start anyway?
fervent raptor
In 17 hours
fervent raptor
Some possible inspiration
New static strike looks pretty fuckin sick
"what if we made a skill that's arc mjolner but attack scaling?"
grizzled hamlet
ill probabl do pyroclast reliquarian as my second build
gonna league start holy relics cause its easy to gear and scales good
fervent raptor
wonder how many people are going to complain that they can't choose their gem transfig in normal lab because they misunderstood the change
solar vigil
Filterblade update is also up!
if im just using thier regular semistrict filter, do i need to update it at all?
fervent raptor
You'll need to update it from last patch, yeah
grizzled hamlet
if youre subscribed to it it should autoupdate
fervent raptor
The filter won't load if it still contains items that have been removed
grizzled hamlet
like if you follow the neversink filters and such
fervent raptor
Oh yeah, I sync my filters manually so idk there
solar vigil
like if you follow the neversink filters and such
yeah, from here?
grizzled hamlet
yeah those will autoupdate
fervent raptor
In 2.5 hrs
rustic grotto
grizzled hamlet
allie does good builds
key point is to check the PoB notes section
girl writes like shes on Ao3 but for poe builds
its great
fervent raptor
Oh is this Burden of Shadows / Warped Timepiece on tree with Beacon explode
Oh Queue is up btw
pine wedge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5evpwBSAHw
Yep found this last night
As we said, we're cooked
ID was out first build and we're still chasing that high
frigid kernel
about to my have my worst queue spot in a LONG time
armor stacker 35%, 3 passive, introspection, small reservation
fervent raptor
That was like 5 months ago haha
Also int stack got kinda cooked enough that it might fall
grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
Guild leader is 55
grizzled hamlet
damn
rustic grotto
I'm probably not gonna log in until tomorrow morning
And I still have a uni assignment to write
frigid kernel
That was like 5 months ago haha
damn why was i so scrolled up
i got 54k because my phone alarm woke me up and saw a 4 minute old discord ping about queue being up
fervent raptor
Lmao
keen dagger
lmao
grizzled hamlet
Thousand dollar joke lol
pine wedge
levelling with RF and uhhhh
fervent raptor
Wheeee
Also they did not cook with the holy skill mtx
The breach K Rain kinda cooked
keen dagger
"they did not cook"
"its kinda cooked"
???
fervent raptor
ez act 1
rustic grotto
oh boy eu servers collapsing
fervent raptor
Ooh a lot of the new exceptional gems look pretty interesting
Big big fan of DPS herald
frigid kernel
at 25 atlas completion and i think i'm done for the day
new atlas is mostly a massive improvement
fervent raptor
"hold the elemental?"
solar vigil
"hold the elemental?"
“Hey Jimmy, gimme an elemental hit with NOTHIN”
fervent raptor
"Nothin??"
solar vigil
(Elemental hit with brutality coin = a skill that does no damage)
fervent raptor
Ngl red feels like a bad choice for ele hit anyway
I get you're aiming for WED, but what else do you hit??
Cruelty is okay, lifetap is probably fine but also could just screw you over
Ancestral
rustic grotto
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/VwOVJMwSHv
fervent raptor
got an animate weapon of ranging in lab so swift pivot to guardian
fervent raptor
do we reckon an AG can use the shrine belt?
solar vigil
Has pob updated to 3.28 yet?
fervent raptor
I've been informed they can't have jewellery 
rustic grotto
Campaign done, impending doom active
fervent raptor
this anim wep guardian is so nuts
pine wedge
Campaign done, impending doom active
Hell yeah welcome to the party
We're all perfectly sane around here
fervent raptor
"who would take an ascendancy for just 150% inc damage?" says I, looking at the Saresh minion bloodline
Turns out it'd be 43% more damage for me atm lol
pine wedge
Impending Doom Reliquarian league start verdict: definitely wasn't a sleeper meta pick but it's still really fun. My character is probably ~25 divs invested at this point and I'm doing 8 mil single target (well, on paper. Real is likely much lower in an isolated fight) while the clear is absurd.
grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
stacked deck op
fervent raptor
holy hell what a ring
keen dagger
thats a lotta hp
fervent raptor
it's also a shadowed doryani ring
keen dagger
I havent played poe1 since well before poe2 ea came out so I have no idea what that means lol
fervent raptor
Doryani chest makes mobs lightning res equal to yours, so people use rings like this to reduce their lightning res
however, you then have to solve incoming lightning damage and this gives 25% lightning taken as fire, which is a big chunk solved
fervent raptor
the ring is probably worth more than the apothecary tbh
fervent raptor
I have gotten my first stone and hit 91 with nothing blocked on the atlas, and I still haven't seen a harvest
keen dagger
the ring is probably worth more than the apothecary tbh
that makes a lot of sense its basically 5 perfect affixes
fervent raptor
so with Kalandra's Touch it maxes the Doryanis plus has 50% lightning taken as fire, which is massive for mitigating
plus uh, 570 life
fervent raptor
Oh wow, my guildmates reckon I could probably get like, half a mirror for it rn
And here I am rolling up a dumb Sabo for it in a private league
keen dagger
grats on being able to build whatever you want this league hahaha
fervent raptor
Oh I'm staying in my private league
Was chatting and decided on combining doryanis with a silly new build plan using the new sceptre
Suspend in Time: Creates a Suspended Mirage - an astral-infused clone of yourself that is suspended in time, just before the release of the spellcast that triggered them. On reaching three Suspended Mirages, all Suspended Mirages will be released, using the spell which was cast to create them.
So the idea of the Sceptre is that it's a self-cast build around - you cast three times and on the third one the mirages pop and use the skill 3 times, so you get 6 skill uses overall (albeit with a small less damage multiplier)
However, summoning the astral clones is a triggered spell, and so it happens twice per cast with a Triggerbot Sabo
This means you cast once, create two clones, then cast a second time which puts you up to four clones that all pop the skill so you get 6 skill uses in only 2 of your casts
Also, it works in a similar idea to arcanists brand recall in that you are doubling the clone-summoning trigger, not the spell they cast and so you don't get the penalty from triggerbots
So I'm planning on doing self-cast Crackling Lance of Disintegration and just blowing up the screen with big beams of lightning everywhere
solar vigil
Reddit
rustic grotto
I was about to complain about not seeing a div drop despite hitting t14 maps but then a t4 dropped enlighten support
fervent raptor
nice nice
pog guild dropped a watchers with "fire and lightning taken as cold while affected by purity of ice"
up to 56% lightning taken as something else with dawnbreaker as well
grizzled hamlet
tink
i thought it was just 1 at first
was happy i get to 6l my diallas
guess i get to do a bit more than that
rustic grotto
Goddamn
I feel glad I don't need a 6L for this build
But instead I gotta hit the 1/4 on a skill coin on temporal chains
I already got the fake 5L through foulborn doedre circlet
grizzled hamlet
spent down to 160c
but tbf
i got
A LOT A LOT of upgrades
6l
new weapon
new shield
new rings
new amulet
new gloves
new boots
better belt
level 3 enhance and empower
new jewels to cap poison chance too
(theyre still shit but im at 100% chance which is big)
rustic grotto
I'm using Beacon of Madness for 100% poison and stacking debuff duration reduction for the downside
Having Warped Timepiece from the reliq tree while also equipping a Foulborn Warped Timepiece for 200% debuff duration reduction is so funny
rustic grotto
fuck yeah I hit the 1/4 and got swift aff on my temporal chains
pine wedge
Oh are you using the Reliquarian ID guide?
rustic grotto
yeah
pine wedge
Nice, so are we.
fervent raptor
So build kinda works but I think I'm stretched too thin trying to do the sabo memes and doryani
grizzled hamlet
cool
i just made 50 div
(its more like 20-30)
this makes gearing my abyss jewels way easier
i needed chance to poison on all of them before this
now i needed only one the ones in the belt
and one on the tree
or i can do 10% in the belt and then another 2 10% on the tree and im at 100%
grizzled hamlet
also switched to this
level 29 holy relic with 82% cooldown is apparently better than 25 with 128%
so woo more dps boost
pine wedge
When you just finished up a set of maps and the trade site has updated with your bulk listings
(I was sorting heist blueprints and the message spam covered up my inventory)
grizzled hamlet
looool
fervent raptor
the adrenaline high
grizzled hamlet
now do it again
fervent raptor
now do it again
sure
grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
need jooce
grizzled hamlet
rustic grotto
Reddit
fervent raptor
up to 4 apoth now
rustic grotto
League status: fallen into that valley between build doing respectable numbers to get your first voidstone and the cliff that is farming for real upgrades
fervent raptor
FUCK IT WE BALL
rustic grotto
what the fuck
fervent raptor
gambled up from a stacked deck
I can't believe I have a functioning Doryani build with a MB in week 1 of a private league
grizzled hamlet
nice nice
pine wedge
Decided to do some upgrades for my strength stacker
90 divines later we got another 400 strength
pine wedge
This fucking build
fervent raptor
There's maybe some nutty tech for Overloaded Intensity support 👀
The Apex/Nadir mode jewels from heist give you +1 intensity and -1 per 0.5s respectively - if they work like I hope you should get a constant intensity consumption to proc stacks of the support
And then it's also tagged Critical, so the crit mastery for +3 levels should work on it
At level 6 it's +5.4% base crit and 180% mult at 3 stacks, which you should be able to maintain pretty trivially
rustic grotto
Today's loot: jack shit
Alas, gotta concentrate on my post-grad stuff now, so I'll have to check back in once I'm done
grizzled hamlet
good luck with your post grad stuff!
fervent raptor
Nice!
I'm gonna see if having explodey on a support makes BV more approachable
Oh wow could definitely life stack it on Reliquarian if I get a Rathpith and Apostate
grizzled hamlet
amanamanamanamanamanamanamus get
fervent raptor
And then it's also tagged Critical, so the crit mastery for +3 levels should wor...
it works!
It works!
solar vigil
whats going on with the market?
fervent raptor
Nothing that wasn't expected
The biggest chaos sink in the game was removed so it's just losing value
Interested to see what the exalt to divine trade price is rn
Given they've made ex more common and tied it to more crafts
But honestly it's so nice to just be able to use currency for its intended purpose
pine wedge
people are trying to swap it to Gemcutter's
Because not only are they rarer than chaos so there's less of them, the league mechanic is eating a bunch of them
fervent raptor
yeah I was wondering if GCPs would become the one
I did not expect ex to crash so hard though
pine wedge
it's super common now
fervent raptor
not chaos common though, and they have better value as a crafting currency
pine wedge
and yes there's more crafting bench options, but they aren't meta mod crafts so the impact will be negligible
fervent raptor
I mean in terms of actually adding mods to items
pine wedge
new hat
fervent raptor
Yo
fervent raptor
That's so much damage
pine wedge
yeah
and like, there are arguably better supports it can roll for impending doom
(there was a level 1 increased AoE for example for sale)
but a level 9 Lifetap is 14% more
And I'm using Blood Magic so Temporal Chains costing life isn't an issue
fervent raptor
"not a dead roll" is already good for a Shako, so 14% more is wonderful
We have 1 Shako rn and I'm prodding the owner to volatile it to see if we get some shenanigans
Can you imagine getting like, a lvl 40 Ice Bite or something like that
pine wedge
good lord
multi mirror
tbh, if I somehow find a better shako I'm volatiling this one
level 40 impending doom
fervent raptor
So aiui it divines the item first and then does fucky wucky stuff
fervent raptor
So idk if it would keep the support gem rolled
keen dagger
they removed map crafts and fitted kirac with some cement shoes right
did they implement any replacement chaos sink
pine wedge
did they implement any replacement chaos sink
nightmare map rerolling is the only sink really
plotting out our next step
fervent raptor
my loot filter sound for this chest is amusingly appropriate
rustic grotto
Had some time free from uni assignments today so managed to switch out to life stacking
pine wedge
speaking of life stacking, I'm at the stage where the easy upgrades have stopped
my options for next upgrade are 1) a simplex that's 200 divs or a 45% chance on the recomb 2) three 3 passive voices 3) mageblood, ring, and new boots
fervent raptor
lmao I never opened the Lab when I got to act 3
just finished act 10 like, "wait a second"
rustic grotto
I think my last non div upgrade is a transcendent flesh
I also need to see if I can snipe a good Watcher's Eye
Gonna hope a couple of things sell over night and check trade tomorrow morning before getting back to the assignment grind
rustic grotto
fervent raptor
guy has a 565 life Focused amulet, too
fervent raptor
Do you have to chance it from an enchanted base?
yeah
frigid kernel
Oh I didn't see the influence.... Very crazy item
fervent raptor
and 30% qual!
and also you have to do all that and then hit a good volatile vaal roll
frigid kernel
so buy a 30q base
Influence exalt
Use another influenced rare to awakener
Get the enchant
Then bench chance, imprint if there's other uniques on that basetype
Then use the funny vaal
pine wedge
there is another unique
Kaom's is a tier 2 and Perfidy is a tier 3
since it's a tier two it's honestly probably better to just use the omen of fortune
chancing a tier 2 raw is a bad idea
pine wedge
a T2 will take "couple tens of thousands" of chance orbs. looking at around 22-44 divines in scours for a chance at it
don't chance a tier 2 you'll lose money
hollow geyser
The dream
fervent raptor
it's for flicker memes
hollow geyser
Is there a flicker build that's not a meme because I always thought they kinda got the zoomies right until they don't one shot a thing
fervent raptor
haha, you're not wrong
pine wedge
made this just now
not perfect
but I have two other very expensive things to buy before I can even use it so like...
(boot upgrade and mageblood)
rustic grotto
ayyy, hopped on during my lunch break and got me 4div from hideout selling
fervent raptor
Okay Scornful Herald makes HoI pops actually worthwhile
fervent raptor
Eyyy
carmine rampart
i'm excited for the new changes in last epoch, but so paranoid about its future
glacial anvil
Yeah same
At least it does have like CoF and offline play and such if things go badly for it
carmine rampart
yeah
that's how i mainly play anyway, besides playing in a party with friends (all of us do CoF anyway)
glacial anvil
I've played it a fair bit but last season hit some fatigue with restarting and playing the same long campaign again
I'm excited by them opening up the order of timelines and such a bit
Will hopefully enjoy it this upcoming season
carmine rampart
yee!
rustic grotto
lmao hit the cursed ground enchant on temporal chains first time
saves me uh...23 divs that I don't have
rustic grotto
3rd voidstone down, just need Maven now
fervent raptor
eyy
rustic grotto
at least maven writs are cheap
rustic grotto
that last phase is a killer
grizzled hamlet
yeah the last phase sucks ass
for me its always the memory game
hate the memory game
rustic grotto
I can handle the memory game but the beams in the final phase get me every time
fervent raptor
I need a speedy bow build to blast T16s I think
rustic grotto
Very funny you can use Dextral/Sinistral scarabs to pseudo-scour nightmare maps
fervent raptor
Yeah, although you lose out on rewards
I suppose you can use them to get your atlas points, but ultimately I guess don't know what you're looking for from Nightmare maps if you're having to scarab them?
rustic grotto
Just wanted the fifth map slot
fervent raptor
Ah, fair yeah
grizzled hamlet
Yeah I did it for the points + map slot
rustic grotto
Holy shit
pine wedge
rustic grotto
Thankfully I played KF last league so I don't feel the need to do it again
rustic grotto
did you watch the video?
Oh yeah, the hypercam2 watermark is a nice touch
pine wedge
what fucking year is it micky
2009 and not a year later 
rustic grotto
I've never been big on crafting but this isn't too bad for a first attempt
fervent raptor
Okay, hear me out
Private league makes getting primordial jewels a pain, plus golem nerfs
Leap Slam of Groundbreaking Ignite Chieftain, using Replica Covenant for flat and Nebulis for inc%
fervent raptor
okay Hextoad is a great support
rustic grotto
rustic grotto
oh huh, Admiral's Arrogance goes for 18 divs
pine wedge
well, decided to play the LE season despite our best judgement
they added new corrupted mods and HOLY SHIT
I'm level 14
hollow geyser
How long does a LE season go for?
keen dagger
year
carmine rampart
however long it takes for the next one (so a year ye lol)
i will also be playing despite my better judgement
pine wedge
this ring is going to be with me for a while lmao
seriously, slam those corruptions
I've only had a brick once so far
and I've corrupted like 5 things
so it's entirely possible don't get us wrong
but the mods are insane
carmine rampart
sick
frigid kernel
lol really?
fervent raptor
End of an era (rest in piss)
Guy's genuinely pulling from the abusive boyfriend playbook with everyone pings in tft
grizzled hamlet
stonking
grizzled hamlet
rustic grotto
this is why you don't gamba
fervent raptor
I wonder if anyone has gamba'd our Unrequited Love
grizzled hamlet
pine wedge
for anyone playing last epoch: does the final steps of the omen echo chains feel overtuned to you?
because they're fucking ridiculous
I had less issues clearing Abby when he was first released than I am with these things
pine wedge
it's champion spam but they have like 70% less damage taken
and it lasts forever it feels like
rustic grotto
Wow Black Barya really is a free boss at this point
pine wedge
man, I love Red Ring farming lmao. Bought a giant pile of prophecies, went into a mono, and dropped 4 of these. These rings have a 1 in 104 chance of dropping when you drop a ring. One of them even rolled 2 LP (1 in 97 chance)!
And yet, I'm no where near close to when a red ring is expected to drop
fervent raptor
I have acquired the angry shouty man axe
fervent raptor
oh huh that's like 35d on trade
fervent raptor
eyy I hit it, too!
rustic grotto
God I haven't gotten shit from the tree all league
grizzled hamlet
trade is a wild wild place
especially softcore trade
to be fair the chaos is just in a weird place this league
i expect theyll add at least one new chaos sink next league?
fervent raptor
oh I just mean the unid being 6d
fervent raptor
That's wild
I'd feel so bad dropping them if I were on trade
Cause like, the overwhelming urge to run it vs making some cash money
rustic grotto
I sold them until I was sure I could actually beat the boss
Then again, I still can't believe I'm rocking a MB this league
fervent raptor
Saaaame
I'm also surprised our guild hasn't dropped more
Our T0 count is actually pretty low if you ignore heist
grizzled hamlet
ayyyy
rustic grotto
So next fun upgrades: simplex amulet and helical ring
Or maybe a foulborn witchbane
fervent raptor
oh hey just had to complain
Eyyy!
It uh, sure is annoying I've never had a full stack of mirrors drop from the tree
Absolute dry spell, I tell you
rustic grotto
:3
pine wedge
So next fun upgrades: simplex amulet and helical ring
gl on the crafting
well, honestly just buy the amulet
I've seen the crafting process
don't
rustic grotto
Yeah that's what Allie's notes say
Just pay Mageblood + 50 divs to skip the crafting agony
fervent raptor
Yeah the current talk on gsf is "settle for an okay simplex which is relatively easy to make"
rustic grotto
And the helical ring is similar except cough up for a kalandra to skip doing it twice
fervent raptor
My soul for a Kalandra rn
I wonder if it has a card 🤔
Oh, it does and drops from Atoll
rustic grotto
Actually the other thing I should do next time I get some divs rolling in is craft a better wand
Still using the one I screenshotted above somewhere
fervent raptor
I'm not sure what you'd be looking for over that one?
This is for lifestack Reliq, right?
rustic grotto
Yeah
fervent raptor
Flat is pointless, especially with Void support or w/e it's called
rustic grotto
Void Manipulation
rustic grotto
Yeah something like that
fervent raptor
Actually, if you get a fractured prefix you can work out your suffixes (ess spam cast speed into crit chance/multi plus open suffix, lock and reforge crit to get the other)
Suffix lock again into reforge chaos and hope you don't hit flat?
fervent raptor
I've been having really noticeable issues getting league content to be miraged
like I can count on one hand the amount of times the league content I'm gunning for on my maps has been covered by the mirage today
90% of the time it's just like, spawning a strongbox (that I'm not specced into at all) and attaching to that
dapper tapir
oh hey just had to complain
but can you fit those into your inventory?
fervent raptor
oh hey tft is being deleted
hollow geyser
What is a tft
fervent raptor
a discord trading server for poe, but notably a pretty toxic place to engage with
hollow geyser
That's different from my first guess of Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne and sounds like it'll not be a big loss because toxicity is no good when markets are involved
fervent raptor
GGG have slowly been making changes to the game to reduce the influence TFT had over trade
basically all the itemisation of crafts and encounters that's happened, plus async trade & currency market are all aimed at lessening the need for 3rd party services
hollow geyser
Were they RMT vendors or nah
fervent raptor
and then a week ago they (finally) banned JeNebu, who was the owner/founder of TFT and ran a high profile mirror shop, and 100% was heavily involved in RMT as well as harassment campaigns against competitors and people who owned exceedingly rare items that he wanted
hollow geyser
That explains what the Path of Exile subreddit's been going on about then
pine wedge
tbf phys max hit just tends to be low
due to the nature of phys mit in general
21k is plenty for tier 16 mapping
fervent raptor
I do have a Defiance on as well
pine wedge
oh, so you're firmly in "one shot or not at all" territory got it
just throw a progenesis in for taste lol
fervent raptor
Fourth Vow and Divine Flesh making up the ele/chaos
we do have a progen that's going unused
this is what Id be with that up
but I'm a champ so flask uptime is spotty
pine wedge
at least in a map I don't think that would be an issue?
last time I played with a progenesis was as a warden doing harbingers and I had full uptime during the map (without Flesh/Flame helping btw)
fervent raptor
Probably wouldn't be but I can't be stealing all the good shit from the guild stash 😛
So this'll do
fervent raptor
Fourth Vow and Divine Flesh making up the ele/chaos
I did not appreciate just how good this is until doing some calcs on it just now
Also Shaper pen is obscene
Shaper balls have 40% cold pen
hollow geyser
No wonder they hit hard
fervent raptor
They hit for an average of 7500, so at 84% max cold (normal plus a mageblood sapphire) you take 4200
With FV/DF and 80% chaos Res and my 50k armour, I take 2150
fervent raptor
Act Bosses and Endgame Bosses will now inflict Ruin with some of their abilities. If you get to seven Ruin your character will die.
🥹
grizzled hamlet
???
fervent raptor
Gauntlet
fervent raptor
ah here's the forum thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3927189/page/1#p26618153
okay don't embed
hollow geyser
That's a lot of extra projectiles
fervent raptor
lmp in act 1 is killer
fervent raptor
Completely unrelated, but concept:
Volatile Vaal a Mon'tregul's Grasp to have 40% reduced max zombie count, dual wield with a regular one and then an automated Transfusion setup for one giant zomber
eager coralBOT
don't know how this happened but somehow we've been eaten alive by Diablo 2
turns out it's actually really good if you can deal with the jank??
eager coralBOT
That looks like an excellent ring, we'd have loved to have that when we were playing PoE
pine wedge
turns out it's actually really good if you can deal with the jank??
Turns out, the game that invented a genre of time eaters is a time eater lol
pine wedge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148915712474349569/1491388936537509948/im...
Nice Helical
eager coralBOT
We're playing SSF and found two BIS items for Lightning Fury Amazon, so we're leveling one atm, been having a blast :D
Micky (they/them) ↩️
rustic grotto
Just need a simplex amulet but that's still another 50 divs away
hollow geyser
We're playing SSF and found two BIS items for Lightning Fury Amazon, so we're le...
I never got an Amazon leveled in Diablo 2, what was their game plan vs lightning immunes in Hell difficulty? Poison javelins?
eager coralBOT
Run past them or get the merc to deal with them afawk. We're not in Hell yet so we haven't had to face them
Cpt. Clem Cuddlecakes ↩️
you still do a little physical with your weapon too even if it's not the majority of your damage
hollow geyser
Oh yeah, Act 2 ice aura merc keeps winning
I spent more time than I should have on Diablo 2 playing offline /players 8 so I eventually realized players 4 was a more reasonable enemy setting
eager coralBOT
apparently might aura gets favored when your merc has life leech since the increased damage (allegedly) does more for survivability than the aura
pine wedge
I never got an Amazon leveled in Diablo 2, what was their game plan vs lightning...
Generally it's a lower resistance wand on weapon swap if you need to deal with them
frigid kernel
does sorc just ignore enemy immunities with the elemental mastery skills that allow her to penetrate over 100% resistance?
fervent raptor
how do I have 4 uniques on in act 2 gauntlet?
eager coralBOT
No, immunity is different from 100% resistance. Immunity is just a hard "this type does no damage, regardless of reductions or other effects" and can only be broken through sunder effects, which are incredibly rare
Theyflower ↩️
rustic grotto
grabs Sirus by the collar
GIVE ME YOUR ORBS YOU FUCK
rustic grotto
PoE gives us all these crafting options then ties them to a 5% drop rate from a pinnacle boss
grizzled hamlet
me: idk if im interested in hero siege
hs: we got flicker from allie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TOjxKdqCw
fervent raptor
someone made Uber Whaka
fervent raptor
wooo we just dropped an accel belt
fervent raptor
Hey gang gang, I've a spare PoE2 key if anyone has been interested but is holding off
Hit me up and I'll DM it you!
rustic grotto
Funny mode go
Took my fresh out of the campaign KBoC Necro straight into a T16 and dropped a seven years bad luck
rustic grotto
Well, I can pretty comfortably take on regular atlas bosses but Ubers are still beyond me
fervent raptor
Oh I'm awful at some Ubers but others are okay
Cortex is ezpz unless it hits turbo
Shaper and Eater are pretty fine, Uber Elder is mechanics mostly
Exarch and Sirus just suck though
fervent raptor
Finally going to take that step every PoE player has to tackle someday
Going to put actual effort into making a good flicker
rustic grotto
god I wanna flicker again but I can't do all this farming again, or the campaign for that matter (at least this league)
eager coralBOT
we got super lucky one season and got that one sword used in flicker builds on our SSF character as a random drop. Much fun was had
fervent raptor
Terminus Est?
But yeah, I bagged a Resonating shrine belt and our guild stash has an Ele Pen/Attack speed Paradoxica that's doing nothing
But as it is I'm pretty certain you can league start Flicker on a Berserker with one of their ascendancy nodes (which got updated to match the effect of a unique ring a couple leagues back)
And sustain relatively consistently with any sword, a sword mastery and a mark mastery?
eager coralBOT
No, Paradoxica. Got a really good roll on it too
weirdfool ↩️
fervent raptor
Oh nice
We've had someone farming veiled exalts so we've gotten like, 8 paras lol
I would not want to go for one myself
rustic grotto
I should probably get a guild at some point
fervent raptor
You're welcome to join ours but there wouldn't be much point if you're playing trade lol
The majority of us play a private league
(which you are also welcome to join afaik)
hollow geyser
Which private leagues are the popular ones these days, I think Zizaran usually does fun ones
fervent raptor
Oh we just do a regular one; I don't know about public ones
It's mostly just to be more than just ssf but not in the trade environment
hollow geyser
Nice, always fun to curate a league the way one likes it
fervent raptor
Like we have no modifiers on the league at all
hollow geyser
I don't know how ssf people do it
When I tried, I was entirely carried by the hive tree printing 6Ls from gifts so I have no idea how normal SSF functions beyond a dream
eager coralBOT
When we play, we usually play SSF. Trade ends up taking some of the fun out of it for us
hollow geyser
When we play, we usually play SSF. Trade ends up taking some of the fun out of i...
What kinda builds do y'all usually go for?
fervent raptor
Solo or Group SF is pretty interesting in that it forces you to go for a relatively generic league starter, but you get to plan around weird and wonderful drops that you might not otherwise consider
eager coralBOT
Our usual starter is RF, iwrc. We also like Scourge Arrow Pathfinder and FS when we get the gear for them
Cpt. Clem Cuddlecakes ↩️
fervent raptor
I quite enjoyed my AW Guardian, and slams are usually popular as a starter
There's usually always some kind of flavour of the month skill, too
fervent raptor
I am now on the Worb grind, Alice
fervent raptor
fervent raptor
these came out pretty nicely
fervent raptor
It's beautiful 🥹
grizzled hamlet
looool
fervent raptor
local fool fucked up
rustic grotto
"oops"
fervent raptor
I just wanted both the damage mods on the same reflection 🥹
240 flat on a ring would have been so so spicy
keen dagger
poe2 0.5 announcement is end of month right?
fervent raptor
Flicker is up to 30m pog
fervent raptor
!!!
rustic grotto
happy for you
fervent raptor
My last 4 vaults have been 2 greater multistrikes and a mageblood
fervent raptor
ye, I was doing it for facetors haha
fervent raptor
Eyy congrats
fervent raptor
If one of our accel belts is free I'm tempted to pivot to that with replica farruls and see how it pans out
Because every time I click an accel shrine in maps it's just pure speed
Otherwise I think upgrades would be getting a better timeless 💀, an F&F pair 💀 💀, or better mirrored rings 💀 💀 💀
rustic grotto
Is it possible to flicker during the campaign at the moment?
fervent raptor
Sure is
If you're twinking it's a bit easier, and you can go slayer straight away, otherwise you'll want to go berserker probably
rustic grotto
What's the frenzy charge generation strat? Blood rage?
fervent raptor
Sword mastery, mark mastery, frenzy cluster at the bottom and then the Dex mark I think has frenzy on quality
Multistrike is required
And ice bite
I think flicker wants quality, too
Ice Bite and the frenzy wheel cover your generation while clearing; the mark, mark mastery and sword mastery do the single target
You probably also want to pick up Tribal Fury and the mastery for "Non-Vaal strikes hit an extra target"
fervent raptor
Not really, just an end game pob
rustic grotto
Righty
fervent raptor
Oh, there are some things on trade that you can get very easily for relatively cheap that I can't, if you're looking at my pob
Most important is 4-7 cold per frenzy synth rings, which you can then throw essence of horrors at until you get something acceptable
4-8 is the same base but with catalysts applied, and are probably overpriced
You can reasonably farm the horrors if they're too much per, but also the rings don't need to be amazing to be good
Also, you ideally want an Elegant Hubris (Caspiro) with these two nodes as either inc% per frenzy or per endurance
I'm settling for an Impossible Escape to grab one of my nodes and pathing the accuracy wheel instead
With the attack wheel you can grab the attack mastery there and anoint Tribal Fury instead of pathing that whole wheel, which'll save you some nice points
Other nice things to look for depending on your budget are corrupted Blunderbores with either +1 gems (more expensive) or +2 to a flicker tag
Corrupted +1 power charge Gull or Mana Reservation
Corrupted Darkrays with 9% suppress
Oh, I'm not sure if it shows on the link above but the Runegraft of Gemcraft is on my aura mastery which gives nice damage (ice bite levels are very good)
I think people also run Perfect Guardian Turtle spectres with companionship for a bit more tank, but I couldn't speak to the uptime
A good watchers you can also get is crit multi with precision
Most people also don't run Scornful Herald on HoI (using Arctic Armour or something instead for more tank) but I personally think it's stunning for clear, because it'll legit pop packs for you - probably needs at least an Enlighten 3, and maybe you can run an Enlighten with Precision/Flesh&Stone for better mana
Oh finally I'm not sure how much they are, but a Resonating/Massive belt will make a really nice difference over just Resonating
Impenetrable is nice but probably a little bait as you're not running a lot of armour or evasion, but if it's cheap enough you could take that as well
rustic grotto
Mostly I'm just wondering what the earliest you can start flickering in campaign with twink gear
fervent raptor
As soon as you get Multistrike
fervent raptor
Sword mastery, mark mastery, frenzy cluster at the bottom and then the Dex mark ...
Everything listed from here onwards is probably necessary for it to not feel dogshit
Reso Belt becomes equippable from 56 and will make it smooth
Terminus Est with a reasonable crit chance from 51 is also a classic
Crit generally will help it feels good as you freeze for Ice Bite generation
Otherwise maybe anoint Ash, Frost and Storm just to help it along
fervent raptor
Oh! A Foulborn Skin with +30% qual will be massive actually as that's another 15% chance on flicker itself to generate a charge on hit, and can be equipped from lvl 1
That's straight up 40% chance on the gem alone so you'd expect to sustain with Multistrike
That's actually probably the single best twink thing you can do for flicker
rustic grotto
Well, I got about half way into Act 2 but it's midnight and I'm 50/50 on if I continue
fervent raptor
Fairs
I'll record a map when I get home so you get an idea of what the build is doing
fervent raptor
this is a no-scarab 4-mod map, with a breach/beyond tree
making it a 6 or 8-mod deli map with breach and density scarabs would make that pretty wild
fervent raptor
update: it was in fact, wild
fervent raptor
ate shit once, and nearly died a couple more times but it was certainly fun to play
grizzled hamlet
lol
fervent raptor
went up to 28.8% after divining the atk spd roll, too
rustic grotto
oh we flickin'
fervent raptor
tbf that is with tincture and focus up - it's 35m otherwise
redid my glove suffixes when I went for aspect and hit big
clicking focus alone is like, 16% more damage
fervent raptor
In all the excitement of "number go up," I have run into something that actually feels like pretty toxic game design: tinctures
Being able to click one button to get 82% more damage for a short time, for the low low cost of having some kind of mana sustain on an attack build (leech, on hit) and one of 5 belt slots taken, is just...
Every attack build should be running one and it just makes them that much more powerful
hollow geyser
I think the tincture theory is they're a nice to have for attack builds to keep them competitive with spell builds and it just winds up being like most POE drawbacks something you build around to remove the drawback for a net gain
fervent raptor
Well, attack builds already outpace spell builds even without tinctures
They just have more avenues of scaling which allows for ever more optimisation
hollow geyser
Yeah there's so many stronger weapons and sources of flat damage than there used to be and it's pretty great for chase goals
I was gonna try a Frost blades tincture Warden next time I fired things up and that might evolve depending on what's flavor of the league
fervent raptor
I'm interested to see what they do with the new belt
rustic grotto
Act 8...
fervent raptor
Surely it has to go core given how much community uptake it has had
I'm gonna hurt myself by looking at trade to see how cheap expensive upgrades would be
rustic grotto
I mean your new acceleration shrine belt is 195d on trade
fervent raptor
Oh but even like, Resonating
But yeah, as chase belts they're super interesting for build enabling stuff
And a nice foil to mageblood "all the flasks, all the time"
rustic grotto
fervent raptor
This one is at 10
I did have a 12 version but it's harder to scale without trade
It's a mere 2 divines for a synth ring that's nonexistent in a private league
And 1d for a +1 level Blunderbore
14d for an F/F pair that lets me run a 3rd synth ring for even more scaling
keen dagger
sheesh
fervent raptor
For reference, my high-rolled misted Manifold plus normal ring is 15-31 damage per frenzy total
The two synth rings would be 16-32 and have better stats overall
keen dagger
do you have to take the damage against you to get the damager per charge?
110-220 damage on a ring is wild
fervent raptor
No, I used a reflecting mist on it and got the worst outcome
Ideally I wanted the Life, Damage and Frenzy Damage to all be on the same side
rustic grotto
I'm at 12/12/5 frenzy/end/power atm; next step is to unfuck my resistances slightly and level up some more
fervent raptor
Split just turns a base into two items, so for rarer bases you have another to work with
For the mirroring, the reflecting mist applies a 1.5-2x multiplier to all of the explicits and then generates 2 copies of the item, with some of the affixes positive and some negative at random
The two copies have the opposites of each other
So I also have a ring with +250 life, -30% chaos res, 11-22 cold damage per frenzy to attacks against me and +40-60 cold to attacks (or whatever the affixes are exactly)
keen dagger
makes sense
fervent raptor
I'm at 12/12/5 frenzy/end/power atm; next step is to unfuck my resistances sligh...
I was just slamming breach/beyond alch n go with deli unblocked and actually flying up levels
I have Atoll cards scryed onto Beach and just running it constantly; maps take like 2-3 minutes depending on if I do the mirage
rustic grotto
I have Defiled Cathedral scryed onto Jungle Valley and already have a breach tree setup, so I'm good there
fervent raptor
Oh nice nice
We don't have a K Touch yet so I'm angling for one haha
I wish I liked City Square better for doing top right astrolabes, but ce la vie
fervent raptor
I also might just live in Siege or scryed Haunted Mansion to fish for a mist from the bottom left
fervent raptor
okay we can just hit that apparently
fervent raptor
oh, so I'm planning on essence spamming suffering on it (flat cold) until I get a high life roll or high WED roll
deafening flat damage is better than T1 natural for some reason
it gives me an average of like, 140 flat instead of the 165 I have rn but with not terrible downsides, so I'll take it
keen dagger
🙂↕️
fervent raptor
man if this crafting goes well I'll be picking up ~700 extra HP
keen dagger
seems alright
fervent raptor
are you ready to witness peak crafting?
ft. realising I missed a step and still just hit anyway
keen dagger
fervent raptor
bear in mind I had already annuled 2 mods, crafted and slammed the phys that was at the start
keen dagger
you've unlocked hardcore
fervent raptor
a series of unfortunate events
fervent raptor
it was a bad circle, corrupted into a bad rare, tainted chaos
hollow geyser
Krangle, the krangle never changes
rustic grotto
I Krangled my KBoC earlier today
Had to buy a new one
(hit cast on crit off a skill coin)
fervent raptor
God their animations are getting good
solar vigil
Huh they pushed the release a bit
keen dagger
hype
fervent raptor
We now have a Foulborn mageblood, too lmao
Every T0 we've had we've gotten multiple copies of, but it's a narrow slice of the lot
desert inlet
grizzled hamlet
its how you know youre winning
fervent raptor
Ahhh we dropped a Grace Sublime and now I'm re-evaluating half my build
rustic grotto
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Alysia_Yuunagi-6250/mirage/character/Alysia_Yuunagi_KB bumped my MB over to my KBoC Necro and it fucking shreds
rustic grotto
Hm, can't quite do max juice breach just yet
Gonna start rolling shrine belts I get instead of selling them methinks
rustic grotto
My intended forbidden flame pick is like 170d or something
fervent raptor
lmao
forbiddens don't really exist for me
even group farming them is dogshiiiit
we have 2(!) pairs from hundreds of invitations
fervent raptor
I hope they do something about Soul Eater next patch
it's way too common a mod rn
also exped sucks I hope I get the timeless soon
rustic grotto
Damage cannot be reflected
hollow geyser
I hope they do something about Soul Eater next patch
Delves with Soul Eaters made me sad about Delving yeah
fervent raptor
yeah I'm getting them p frequently in exped where they're much tougher than regular versions because of all the remnant mods
grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
the timeless, which is insane for ward support, can only be found from logbooks dropped in the mirage
so you have to enter the map, hope the exped is miraged, do the exped (reading all the nodes, doing all the placement etc), hope you drop logbooks, hope to get the rare implicit that guarantees the mob that drops the jewel, if not open the logbook and hope one spawns
then the timeless has a select few notables you want on a specific keystone, so have fun divining that
plus you really want Ynda's belt which is a very rare reward for doing Kalguur shipping quotas (to the point where the majority of belts on trade actually come from voidborn keys and not the actual factual source), and you want Iron Flasks which are very rare drops from expeds
rustic grotto
Oof
fervent raptor
non-corrupt Ynda's is 85d and iron flasks are 15+ d, for reference
rustic grotto
I knew about the Ynda's but I wasn't aware that's where Irons came from
fervent raptor
it's like, they make the support for it then go "actually get fucked :)"
rustic grotto
wtf
fervent raptor
No I'm an idiot lmao
I searched More Than Skill on trade instead of Masterful Form jaha
That jewel is a mere 6d xD
grizzled hamlet
lol
fervent raptor
We do have the blue More Than Skill though
keen dagger
masterful form seems pretty solid on flicker strike
fervent raptor
time to see if I can cludge things together for now
rustic grotto
always gamba apothecaries
dapper tapir
Any new classes going to be added?
keen dagger
likely but not confirmed yet
grizzled hamlet
we probably wont get anything as dramatic as druid
but maybe?
keen dagger
I figure the next character is most likely to be duelist which should be pretty straightforward?
people have been losing their minds from day 0 over "swords????"
dapper tapir
warrior, templar, assasin, duelist are the remaning ones to be added right?
keen dagger
marauder, templar, shadow, duelist
warrior is the current strength main character
im interested in seeing how they make flails axes and swords different feeling from maces
fervent raptor
Wonder if they'll bin off regular swords and just keep thrusting swords for a clearer delineation from axes
There's also still daggers
fervent raptor
Lmao
rustic grotto
sweating
frigid kernel
maybe they will go for a really weird midgroundy thing for axes in poe2
worse damage affixes but able to use both axe and sword skills
that wouldnt work though because theres the auto skill tree swap mechanic
fervent raptor
I think it's more likely to have a bleed/Phys kinda focus on axes
With swords more ele?
rustic grotto
dang, got uber sirus down to 50% in phase 2 before running out of portals
the problem with KBoC is you can't fucking see anything
hollow geyser
the problem with KBoC is you can't fucking see anything
The classic ARPG dilemma
rustic grotto
https://tenor.com/view/toddlers-and-tiaras-big-grin-excited-girl-giddy-smile-gif-9689369815152198607
rustic grotto
God, lost two 50/50s on recombs in a row
fervent raptor
I've been recombing all day lmao
And finally gave up and got something in like, 20 mins from breach tree
Need to do the suffixes but it'll be fine for now
rustic grotto
Trying to recomb % increased maximum mana onto a synapse ring
keen dagger
seems like they are revamping all the league mechanics that ea launched with?
grizzled hamlet
could be yeah
fervent raptor
That's gotta be Duelist confirmed, then
We've had the Gladiator gif and swords teased
And then we're missing what, Marauder/Templar/Shadow for axes, flails and daggers?
keen dagger
yeah
be ggg
have to make a whole new game to make melee fun
save all the melee implementation until last
?
grizzled hamlet
i think a lot of it is wanting each weapon set to feel distinctive
keen dagger
oh no I totally get it im just ribbing
keen dagger
we've come so far 🥲
https://youtu.be/R-UG3642raQ
rustic grotto
lol, 3rd kill of uber reverence got me a golden charlatan
knotty glacier
grizzled hamlet
oooooh
knotty glacier
So it does seem there's going to be a rework of every endgame activity? Maybe?
grizzled hamlet
yeah it could just be a huge endgame rework