👶beginner-help

[lone kindle]

even if valks get powercrept as a dps, they always get powercrept by a new one that you can pull, and you use that powercrept dps as a support now

so you still use them

[minor dawn]

I’ll see then and try to think more to myself i am kinda biased on the new one cuz kiana is my fav and i worked pretty hard these last days grinding on it but i do get the benefits of the old one

[lone kindle]

both are good on their own terms

[lofty stirrup]

Is there a way to predict what you get in pulls? Like how in genshin there are blue, purple and yellow pulls depending on the rarity you pulled

[prisma oyster]

it glows purple or gold

iirc

its been awhile since i pulled

[minor dawn]

Doesn’t s rank not have a glow

Like only A ranks glow when the purple card shows up

Like yk they release rays

That’s it i think you can’t tell from the box tho

[outer spruce]

yeah the actual pull animation has no differences

[lofty stirrup]

Aw man.. So true gambling

[outer spruce]

there is a difference between a ranks and s ranks but the difference is so split second that it barely matters

[prisma oyster]

is it? its been awhile since i pulled LOL but yeah i know the initial pull doesnt have anything but when the crate glows (?) u know what i mean

[outer spruce]

a rank has rays coming out of it and the s rank one doesn't

they're both purple

[minor dawn]

I mean yeah it’s a gacha game and glows or doesn’t glow it’s still the same chances and all

[outer spruce]

the s rank doesn't turn gold until it shows you

[minor dawn]

Aren’t the only gold ones like outfits boxs and supply cards

But like that’s an outfit banner exclusive

[outer spruce]

yes

[lofty stirrup]

Theres no 50/50 on weapon and featured character banners right?

[outer spruce]

no 50/50

[prisma oyster]

nope

100 pulls tho

[minor dawn]

90

[outer spruce]

90 pulls

[minor dawn]

Damn you really haven’t pulled in a while

[outer spruce]

60 for weapon

[prisma oyster]

oh right free cards

[minor dawn]

No just 90

[outer spruce]

no it's legit just 90 now

[prisma oyster]

i did earlier this patch

the thing is i try to skip the animation

i miss when u can skip animation damn

[minor dawn]

Bro is pressed

[outer spruce]

and debut banners have a discount on the first 10 pull so it's more like 85

[prisma oyster]

80+60

[low ridge]

Does one of the background give you back crystals after you buy it other than the paid one?

I heard someone mention it on twitter , but I don’t know if it’s true

[prisma oyster]

no its just the paid one

[low ridge]

Had feeling

[prisma oyster]

yeahh

[safe yew]

||guys what do you think||

[minor dawn]

You should put that in spoilers:3

[crude hinge]

omgggg do u have to pay to be anle to get timeless grand hall bridge theme??????

[woven jay]

Hey guys, I need help. I want to get a Genshin account for my friend but I don’t know the game. What should I look for?

[shell basin]

you're probably better off asking on a genshin discord

this one is for honkai impact 3

[safe yew]

i cant blur the photos :/

[shell basin]

Spoiler that third image. Anyway ||Silverwing Dkey got buffed in v4 beta, it's not as good as it used to be in V2 but she wins on her bosses again so she's looking more average for a dkey than bad||

[safe yew]

i cant blur the photo how to do it T-T ||and should i go as far as i can for her ranks
||

[wispy aurora]

||so it not worth to start buying SW Fragments?||

[shell basin]

||Depends on your account details but it almost certainly is worth it to use AL and probably not worth it to use crystallum or pwo or such||

[safe yew]

what is AL and pwo

[shell basin]

||Pretty much yeah, the only break point is s2 so make sure you get at least that but everything past that is attack which is always appreciated on a dps. I'd aim to be at least SS if I could but further is better|| if you can't spoiler the third photo you could delete it ig

[wispy aurora]

Ancient Legacy and Pure Witch Orbs

[shell basin]

AL is ancient legacy, one of the war treasury currency. PWO is a more expensive currency also used for buying fragments

[outer spruce]

with crystals yes

if you were around when the theme came out years ago, it was free

[crude hinge]

yeah i'm aware but my dumbass at the time didn't clock that it was limited time event only

i have to check how much is it now

[safe yew]

ic ic. ||i can make her s2 effortlessly since i have her in 2 boxes and i can get 80 fragments of her from the spending event. its better to get her than the elf frags yes?||

[wispy aurora]

Characters I don't have are These in the Picture and I have every Character from 8.0 + All geared
Most old Valks arent fully Geared (not worth in most cases)

[shell basin]

||Hard to say for sure. Probably unless you already have an elf and don't plan to pull aops but exact answer depends on account details||

[shell basin]

What rank is your Hohe? Silverwing ranks trade off against Hohe ranks and if yours is low rank but you need her for HLE abyss cope then that might be an argument for hohe ranks instead, or both if you can afford them

But ||Given your account I would get Silverwing to at least S2 if I could, such as via anni box + fragments, and then anything past that as budget allows||

[safe yew]

i dont have hohe new gear should i get it? i have hle tho? i think its better to focus on new valks than reruns yes?

[shell basin]

No unless you're whaling

if you are whaling Hohe gear is a pretty good pickup for the 10 atk

but for f2p you have more important things to get

[safe yew]

such as? (politely asking)

[minor dawn]

Do i buy the fragments or save up to get the character then buy fragments (alr got her from box)

[safe yew]

also im not a whale yet im not a f2p ahahaha i am more like a dolphin but little dolphin

[shell basin]

For f2p players we reccomend focusing solely on new releases to go wide in terms of coverage. If you're spending for more budget you can consider things like impactful astral ops (if you are already in RL and looking to enter nirvana), divine keys backpulls, other recent backpulls, and then ranks / synergies in (roughly) descending order of priority

though details vary based on goals and acc details

[shell basin]

If you own silverwing from box you can only get her fragments from wt anyway?

[minor dawn]

Oh i didn’t even check thanks!

[minor dawn]

Can i get your insight on something i already asked about i wanna get more opinions

[shell basin]

what is it

[minor dawn]

.

[wispy aurora]

My HoHe is only S rank and I think I have a box that gices 12 Fragments

[shell basin]

Old account seems a little better but both are justifiable if you like they, they both have a lot of good stuff

on them

but I would tend to prioritize the one that has more valks and weapons and thus can already make full teams unless you've already tapped out all your 1 time sources or you decide you really want mei/kiana

which are things only you can decide

I just look at it and think that going forwards the old account will be earning more crystals and going forwards if they release new WOD or RoO valks your old acc will be able to support them and new acc won't

[wispy aurora]

Found the box

[minor dawn]

I see and i guess it was kinda off a mistake spending the carnival pulls on helia could’ve spent them on badum i was goofing off

[shell basin]

if you wanted badum yeah

but if you really want her you can still stick with the one, it just should be because u thought about it and decided "yeah I really want badum" or such

[minor dawn]

Also 1 time rewards wise they’re actually on the same chapter 16 also here’s my gear and stuff

Started the acc on fu hua release then played until part 2 patch skipped a while until songque then took another break until vita and so on and on with breaks

[shell basin]

Yeah. So old acc has a bunch of teams
FDD Paws Vita
Vita FDD VBM
PS FDD Vita / Sonq
Sonque Vita Sena/Thelema
Senadina Vita Thelema

which means for most abyss you will be able to cope a3 or even RL

whereas new account will have 1 team if you rush mei wep asap

and Mei Badum VBM is worse than most of the teams there

so meta wise it's gonna have less coverage

in terms of what you like only you can decide that

it's not like new account is bad

having new release + good supp is pretty solid

[minor dawn]

Add XDC to the bunch we have more teams + future support coverage now i get the pic || and sw dk ||

[shell basin]

||SW dkey will make new account have 1 full team (SW Mei Badum) but Badum still cant dps without wep and SW can't support mei. Whereas old acc will also be able to use SW new team and use SW to support PS and Sena||

[minor dawn]

Why vbm on the second team?

[shell basin]

Vita wants ROO supports

and there are only 3 of those

[outer spruce]

vita wants a full roo team

[minor dawn]

Okii

[minor dawn]

Also this acc has a serapeum because of some… irresponsible decisions what teams should i put her in

[shell basin]

s rank?

[minor dawn]

Yuh

[shell basin]

On Sonque DPS and sometimes on Sena

sena depends on run but I would say probably more often than not

[crude hinge]

do they ever make reruns on emblems?

I MIGHT JUST FLIP MY GAME HOW DID I MISS THESE I WAS THERE ???????? HELLO

[outer spruce]

you probably did the event but didn't get a high enough score to earn the emblem

[crude hinge]

oh... omg loser 💔

[minor dawn]

Anyone can tell me why no one uses vita’s hold when using her as support because doesn’t it recharge astral ring

[lofty stirrup]

is the coralie s rank battlesuit any good

shes my fav character and i really wanna use her

[low ridge]

Yes its amazing one of the best in game really good support

[outer spruce]

she's one of the best supports for LoA and GoI teams

[outer spruce]

what do you mean, she does her CA all the time so she can get the sp to ult

the only exception is in LoA teams

[minor dawn]

Then that must’ve been the gameplay i saw

[lofty stirrup]

can she be used as a dps tho

[outer spruce]

yes, every gacha part 2 s rank is a dps support in this game

she does both

[glad coral]

worth getting badum kiana weapon for xentinel mei? i already have both badum kiana and mei but dont have kianas weapon

[outer spruce]

badum doesn't need her weapon to be a support for mei

[glad coral]

but it would make kiana herself better?

[outer spruce]

as a dps yes

[glad coral]

so would that be worth it

if i use her as a dps

[outer spruce]

if you get her from carnival, i would just save. carnival pity doesn't carry over once it's over so if you don't have enough pulls, it's a waste

[glad coral]

i have 20k crystals so i could get it if it is a good idea to

i dont have a law of acension dps so it might be worth it

or maybe i could get vitas weapon instead

i got her from the free pulls from carnival

[outer spruce]

vita doesn't need her weapon to be a good support either

[glad coral]

i could use her as a dps though?

[outer spruce]

do you have 2 of hofi with dkey, fdd and vbm?

those are her only supports

[glad coral]

i have fdd and vbm

[outer spruce]

then yeah, you could make a vita team, though her cases for being a dps are kinda few and far between

she doesn't get that many weathers nowadays

[glad coral]

oh i see ty for the info

maybe ill just save for ||silverwing weapon|| or something

[outer spruce]

also i would spoiler tag that last part, it's not confirmed for global yet

[prisma oyster]

sorry late reply but yes with crystals tho

i mean crystals only, its less than 2k i dont remember the exact price

[minor dawn]

|| i have hofi’s dk but not her is it better to get ranks for sw or save up for when they add hofi to shop ||

[crude hinge]

it's 1500 so i'm trying to collect it rn !!! just 600 crystals left

[glad ice]

lol u wanna waste balls on a farmable valk?

[minor dawn]

Legacy shop

[glad ice]

[minor dawn]

My legacy’s limited so

[glad ice]

keep 640 ready then

[minor dawn]

[crystal sluice]

Are these worth spending on to prepare for next patch

All of Silverwing's stigmata I mean

[quick birch]

|| SW will also get new stigmatas with her new weapon so no ||

[crystal sluice]

Oh Oki

[crystal sluice]

||Ill be able to get them just by pulling her weapon right||

[quick birch]

|| yes and they'll be craftable in the foundry like every p2 stigmata ||

[minor dawn]

Songque jd stamps or smth else

[shell basin]

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[floral patrol]

hi guys im a old player and i cleared part 1 completely, part 1.5 i kinda skipped it and part im stilll in chapter 1-3 , idk how to proceed, im getting bored and well idk if its worth farming events and playing the game i already am playing all these game but im thinking quitting hi3

these are the part 2 valks and weopens i got so some runs i cant score for vrystals alot

[outer spruce]

well the big question is, are you still having fun?

if you're not having fun and there a tiny voice in your head telling you to stop, then it's okay to stop

[floral patrol]

well i do enjoy the the gameplay and all but ..feels time consuming,, and if i dont do events i feel like i wont catch up to complete my teams

[lyric anvil]

Can always take a medium, so you're not burning yourself out

[floral patrol]

hmm alright currently im doing so ...just having it hard to get characters hahaha

currently got the new valk mei but trying to hget crystals for her weopen and Luna weoepn is kinda not working out f2p

[outer spruce]

I'm not gonna lie to you, this is the kind of game that punishes you if you don't play consistently, f2ps can afford almost every valk + weapon borderline almost every patch but you have to play almost every day

events don't give that many crystals, the majority actually comes from abyss, events are mostly for materials

[floral patrol]

i kinda regret that i left part 2 in start

but oh well it is what it is

[outer spruce]

that being said, it's okay to take breaks or even straight up stop playing if it cuts into your schedule

[floral patrol]

im fine i can carry on with dailies i have it scheduled just when i think of doing story i think of playing other games missions

as for story i musnt start the interlude right

? play it in its order

[outer spruce]

take your time playing the story, the chapters here can get very long

[sour valve]

Is it worth buying the 10$ BP, and if so, which of the three characters is worth getting from it?

These are my valks if that helps

[lyric anvil]

Knight?

[sour valve]

think so, yeah

[lyric anvil]

Getting Knight for the crystals isn't bad
As for the Valks in bp works, those are expensive and I would suggest getting any dkey's from reserve you're missing

[sour valve]

which ones are the dkeys?

[sour valve]

Ty

looks like I just have Seven Thunders and Whispers of the Past

[lyric anvil]

Save your crystallum for what's on the list besides Judah and Pledge of Sakura

[sour valve]

hmm

[lyric anvil]

Also a bit late
Abyss flower and Fenghuang Down have foundry counterparts: Abyss and Fenghuang Pinions

[craggy cargo]

helloo i just joined, i heard there was a free character selector for 1.0 to 6.3 something, how do i get it?

[lyric anvil]

It's a login reward

[craggy cargo]

ohh okok tyy

[lyric anvil]

[sour valve]

I see. Ty

[lyric anvil]

[dusty tartan]

Anything I should know or tips before trying to get HLE's outfit in the outfit supply? The cost should be around ~10k gems right?

[lyric anvil]

9.6k

[dusty tartan]

Thanks! There isn't anything from the shop I can purchase right? Just use gems?

[lyric anvil]

Well you do buy the outfit currency but you can just tap the gacha button to buy that with crystals

[dusty tartan]

Got it. Took to the last one as expected. Actually got the 5x equipment supply on the 3rd pull, but doesn't really matter 😛

[lyric anvil]

[dusty tartan]

Kinda a weird moment where I would be ahead if I stopped there. Feels weird to waste "good" luck.

[lyric anvil]

Smh

[faint wasp]

Yes indeed, fall for the skin propaganda and Ely slop

[dusty tartan]

probably my favorite skin in the gachas i play

[craggy orbit]

People do you think i'll get to Mei's weapon in 30 wishes in 17 days.. 😭🥺

[faint wasp]

Depends on ur remaining crystal sources

[craggy orbit]

i literally play the story and i try to grab any crystal to make at least ONE wish or three

[craggy orbit]

0..

[faint wasp]

Like 0? 0?

[craggy orbit]

yeah.. 0

i had managed to farm like 20,000 but ofc i already spended it

emm and also like i have a dislocated arm so when i say i FARM whatever i can i do

mei's my fav so yeah

[faint wasp]

Well incase there are any you've missed u can always check pins for crystal sources... But other than that, I'm just gonna pray for u and hope for the best

[craggy orbit]

Thank you kind chii i wish so too

I never will give up so until the LAST MOMENT that banner goes away i'll hold on

Also, in the box that gives you char cards, and all, of the event login, which Character should i get?

[faint wasp]

For the most part it wouldn't matter since most of the valks there dont have as much use cases anymore aside from maybe HoHe ranks. However, ||SW will be getting a dkey—more info on cn discussion— so if u wanna consider her it's best to pick her there|| but even then, for the most part it's better to save it for when u actually need to use it ||for SW frags maybe||

[faint wasp]

Yes that'll do, I'm not sure if 17 days will do it but I honestly think it's doable trust

[craggy orbit]

Okei thank you

[craggy orbit]

Yeah, twin, i'll try, but anyway someday Mei will have a renun so i'll get that weapon sooner or later. On the other hand, I'm proud to say that my Herrscher of Thunder is finally 4/4! Yay, i dont usually play for meta, so, it doesn't matter, but im just rlly happy:3

[steep drift]

I've gotten all the dks already, is there anything else that's useful here?

[oak estuary]

Mostly for ma stuff, like DoU for hoo ||next patch theres gonna be sena wp, so u can grab that if u need it||

[lyric anvil]

Ranks possibly too but otherwise likely best to save the crystallum

[oak estuary]

Yea if u have like a bp tix from one of the raffles, u can save the balls for when usefull units u dont have come to paid and get them for free

[steep drift]

||I didn't hear anything about Sena dk next patch, isn't just bronya dk?||

[oak estuary]

||no i meant sena og wp, thats coming to reserve||

[steep drift]

||oh, I already have that||

[steep drift]

ye I have HoRB's wep so ranks might be useful

[slim blaze]

Omg

Fws outfit rerun

[silk dew]

This little shit infuriates me

literally the reason why i can't progress in chapter 11

[lone crater]

u can repeatedly do previous stages

to manifest more stuff/upgrade

then it should be easier

[silk dew]

huh... never thought of that...

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

the solution was right in front of me

[lone crater]

well if theres any other things then u can record and show it to us but yea

ask again if u need

[silk dew]

time for me to farm weapon and stigma stuff because i can ✨️

[lone crater]

which stage is it again btw

[covert notch]

Is it wise to start ranking up SW since she's gonna have ||a new dkey?||

[twilit lion]

Is P2 Sushang going to get rerun soon or does HoH DK bow worth to pull?

[lone crater]

dats fine to do

[lone crater]

no info on when ps reruns

also no idea on when hohe dk reruns

but prob not really worth to backpull it

if ur budget is constrained

[wind ember]

Hello

[lyric anvil]

[wind ember]

I have a question guys. This is my old account and just got back recently. I'm considering to start a new account since I can't understand the game before doing only story. I'm just starting to grasp it now. These are my valks and equipments. What do you think?

But starting new is a bit tideous. Maybe some advice? Can someone recommend me stigmatas so I can improve clearing contents of the game.

[spring kestrel]

What best team i can make for this round abyss

[lyric anvil]

Between XDC FWS FDD or FWS FDD XDC

Probably the latter though

Could also try Sparkle instead of XDC in the FWS team

[spring kestrel]

Is SS chenxue better than SSS dreamseeker for kiana

[lyric anvil]

[quick birch]

depends a bit on the team you're running but a lot of HS units also have symbioses so they contribute to the dmg buff from SS cx

generally she should be better if you ahve 2/3 symbioses units in your team

[quick birch]

imo it's really up to you if you want to start over, you already have mei + her weapon and stigs and you'd basically just do the same thing on a new account, the main benefit of a new account would probably be the one time crystal sources + starter manual but i dont know how the one time crystal sources are looking on your current account so could be that it's kinda whatever, also since we're already nearly in week 5 it could be a bit tight to get mei

for teams you would want to run the new mei with valkyrie blast metal and terminal aide
valkyrie blast metal would use her signature + theresa gluttony T with fu hua musicion MB
for terminal aide check her build out here

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

this can also be some inspiration for team that you'd use for MA

[quick birch]

just to provide some examples maybe check out this video
https://youtu.be/su6AzSeShcA?si=TfFyoHYmCxjWW-pv
depending on the situation you might also appreciate the initial ari even if you'd lose a bit of dmg in some teams

[wind ember]

Thanks. I want to continue on this account. This helps a lot. I use Mei on Elysian Realm and she's good.

But how about dps for elemental valks? For each elements?

Currently I'm running Valkyrie Gloria with Sakuna Rondo and VKE Himeko for Fire. It's a little bit underwhelming.

If you can Recommend Supply that I should pull, much more appreciated. Thanks

[quick birch]

tbh mei will stomp every single one of your cope ele DPS and she's just better than them even if you're bruteforcing

for pulling advice i'd just save until next version and then get || the silverwing divne key which allows her to function as a p2 valk, also get silverwing from the s rank selector because of that, you currently also dont really have the crystals to pull for anything so i'd recommend to save even if a decent supply for you would be running atm ||

#👶beginner-help message

also give this a read for a rotation for the team i've mentioned

if you have any further questions feel free to ask

[wind ember]

Thanks. I'll just save for upcoming updates coz HI3 metas changes very quick. And I have much story contents to clear since I only play mostly part 1.

[quick birch]

it's not really that the meta changes quickly tbh but rather that you can't afford every new valk + wep on release so you want to focus on units that are at their peak value, usually a valk lasts roughly 2 years maybe even longer with longer patches now

!faq meta

[small willow]

Why does it feel like EVERYTHING is trash?

Please don't be discouraged, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message), it's not as bad as it seems! Let us clear up the common misconceptions about meta~

[quick birch]

this might also clear up some things about the meta if you're interested

[spring thicket]

for context I got PS on her first banner, and she’s still my go to for brute forcing things a year later. if you like how Mei plays, she can (and most likely will!) do the same for you long term. that doesn’t mean pull PS when she reruns, just this kind of long lifespan is what most of us hope for when pulling a new valk.

[quick birch]

yeah especially if you can't pull every new valk you'll use other valks to bruteforce the weathers of the actually shilled valk, ofc it'll be a bit worse but should be fine for RL. Even in a BiS context valks hold a niche for 2+ years, it's just that as the valk gets older they're pushed into more concrete niches but they still work fine as a general option if you happen to miss out on a valk.

[short monolith]

Hello! I was wondering if any of the options of the S rank battlesuit option 2026 were worth it from a meta standpoint or if i should just pick my favourite from there

[quick birch]

|| from a meta standpoint you'd want to pick SW if you don't already have her and get some ranks if you're on some higher ranks but s2 is prob enough for RL, other than that you can also keep it if you ever feel like you might need the SW frags while she's shilled, though be aware that most of the valks in there including SW are also in WT so maybe crosscheck if any valks you're interested in are only available from the box or also available from WT||

[ornate shoal]

is vita + divine key hof still good?

[lofty stirrup]

Would red dragon coralie and hi pink elf elysia work together? Who else do I put on the third slot if I have normal coralie, helia, herrscher of void, starry impressions, the catgirl forgot her name and basic theresa

[thick bolt]

Dragon cora can support hi love elf yes, though not the other way around. Use the normal coralie for 3rd slot in that team for buffs and astral ring energy regen

[prisma oyster]

do u get more enchantment level material in er if u play the valk in a higher difficulty or is it the same amount throughout all difficulty

[quick birch]

It increases with the difficulty so if you're trying to speed run choose the highest difficulty you can clear but make sure you still kill the boss really fast to make it worth

You kinda just need to find the middle ground for how fast you can kill the boss and how much level material you get

[prisma oyster]

ah yeah thats exactly what im trying to do

alright ill get grinding

[low ridge]

Should I get silver wing fragments or willpower or legacy

[nimble rock]

Can these be saved for future carnival banners so like for example next year one?

[quick birch]

No they expire after this version

[dense hull]

is it possible to get 20k crystals in 17 days as a new player?

[prisma oyster]

perhaps

[shadow gyro]

dont need to get anything for now
but can get sw frags later on if you need it

[ornate shoal]

Carnival supply pity doesnt carry over?

[lyric anvil]

It does on the carnival duration but not after it's over fully

Pity resets when carnival comes around again whenever in the future after this one

[west dust]

How do I know if I should pull for chenxue or youyoun?

[lyric anvil]

Spoiler that end bit

[ornate shoal]

so better to pull on carnival with free or if you have enough for pity right?

[serene epoch]

What should i buy here??

[lyric anvil]

With the free pulls

[lyric anvil]

@serene epoch

[quick birch]

really depends on the account, if it's a fresh account with starter manual a lot of story etc. sounds doable, though if you only have some story left and things like ER are already done it may be though

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

maybe check this out for some extra ideas

[minor dawn]

Do i run geared PS or weaponless Helia

[quick birch]

do you have any other high atk crossbow ? if so probably helia, even if you do not i'd still try a run with both ps and helia dps just to see how they compare

[minor dawn]

I have A rank sig weapon

[lyric anvil]

Sinful 3?

[quick birch]

oh wait i didnt see the rank it prob doesnt really matter anyway

but ig helia would be slightly better with a high atk crossbow

maybe do 1 PS run just to check for yourself

[glad ice]

A rank helia weapon

[minor dawn]

So either ps fdd vita/songque or helia fdd PS (only non geared is thelema and helia)

[glad ice]

vita isnt good as LoA sup

paws/jds better

[quick birch]

i'd still take paws as a PS support because of the +10% symbioses tag bonus

[lyric anvil]

She's a bit situational

[quick birch]

she's niche, been cases where she's BiS even with FDD released

[minor dawn]

So same team just switch the leader role and try both

[quick birch]

yeah

[minor dawn]

Alrr

[lyric anvil]

FDD goes up to 20% don't it or?

Oh wait nope

Just 10%

Sad

[quick birch]

well they gain a total of 30% extra dmg with both of their teams just from the symbioses tags if you mean that

with paws dps it's 70% in total

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[minor dawn]

Yeah helia was slightly better even with a lower level / lower level stigmatas

[lyric anvil]

Full Weather buff

Also Parvati does have a thick phys shield

[minor dawn]

I should play it like this right?

[quick birch]

you could do ps wa -> second wa so that it hits the mob when it spawns and then into fdd qte wa ult but yeah

there are paws BA cancles but i dont think they're needed for your situation

[minor dawn]

Might look into them just for the love of the game

[quick birch]

there was a video about them gimme a sec

https://youtu.be/SziORGe9vJQ?si=p2N2tOP1-KvKxzpN

[minor dawn]

Thankss

[wind ember]

I didn't know that you can bruteforce some debuffs on contents with same valk. How about Universal Mirage? Can I use Mei in every stage?

[spring thicket]

universal mirage is a bit fussier, since mei is physical she should work well for blade grave

[quick birch]

tbh probably yeah

p2 valks just stomp universal mirage

[shell basin]

only exception is phys universal mirage since it has that kallen on one stage

and since mei is phys

shes fine there

[wicked cargo]

Are there any characters that don't want all Atk% affixes?

[glad ice]

generally atk is the most useful affix

some physical char can use cdmg

[lyric anvil]

Luna did before getting her DKey

[glad ice]

flat additional dmg can have niche use, like breaking andrius crystals or SK elemental resist

[lyric anvil]

[proper sleet]

Which one is better, Silverwing or HoTruth?

[vivid warren]

i got sw from the box but i dont have a weapon for her and the only teammate ik i should use her with is hotr, how do i build her/her team?

[quick birch]

|| wait until next version and pull her new gear she's not good with her P1 Team and you also wouldn't run HoTr with her ||

[quick birch]

If this is related to who you should choose from the s rank selector|| SW would generally be better since she will get a new weapon + stigmata next version ||

[ionic falcon]

Hey guys

[proper sleet]

ic

[ionic falcon]

I'm a returner player, been away for 3 years

Where can I find a Tier List pls

[low ridge]

|| Are we going to get the new silver wing skin for free ||

[quick birch]

Tierlists do not apply for this game, one valk can be extremely good on one boss and absolutely shit on the other one

!Faq tierlist

[small willow]

Tier Lists

Be careful, Captain!

⚠️ TIER LISTS ARE NOT VIABLE IN HONKAI IMPACT 3RD.*

If you have seen a tier list, DO NOT BLINDLY INVEST INTO ANYTHING IT CLAIMS IS 'GOOD'.

While some tier lists may reflect the current meta, those characters will not help you to build a competitive account. In Honkai Impact 3rd, we optimally invest in the future meta upon its arrival, as the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.

*This FAQ refers to competitive/investment tier lists. Cuteness tier lists and the like are exempt from this, but please do not post tier lists in help channels.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides! + !faq pull and !faq meta

[ionic falcon]

I just have a Old account and I would like to know

[quick birch]

Do you have any other questions? The game has changed a lot since you played it last so it may be a bit overwhelming at first

[ionic falcon]

Which ones are still Usable

Yeah bro I appreciate the help it really did change a lot

[low ridge]

What team should I use for this abyss

[low ridge]

Send a screenshot of your valks

[ionic falcon]

I will ok gimme a sec

[quick birch]

Realistically probably no one of your valks still has meta relevancy today especially since team building was completely reworked though to make sure send some screenshots as it was said yeah

[low ridge]

But I’d say mostly everything on your account going to be Meta and the things that might be meta need their divine keys

[vivid warren]

ty!

[low ridge]

But if you’re not too attached to your account, you should probably make a new one. The carnival banner is going on so if you want to re-roll accounts, it’s super easy and probably the best beginner banner is going on right now so it’s a perfect time for returning players to make a new account if they’re not attached

What team should I use for this abyss

[ionic falcon]

I don't know bro

Here's the pictures

[quick birch]

Well what do you have

[quick birch]

Paws LV fdd is BiS

[low ridge]

Wait I have that

[quick birch]

https://youtu.be/yPSoUjyCpl0?is=SORoV9nDz155LQV4

If you need ref

[low ridge]

Yea only meta relevant character is paws

[low ridge]

And if she doesn’t have her weapon, her DPS is gonna be falling behind

So it’s up to you if you’re not attached then you can go ahead and make a new account but if you are, you can definitely save the account but it’s gonna take a lot of time

[ionic falcon]

Who's paws u mean Pardofelis?

[low ridge]

No helia

[ionic falcon]

Aha

I just got her yesterday from the carnival

[low ridge]

Oh so you don’t have her weapon

[ionic falcon]

Didn't get her weapon though

Btw

This team I solid

[low ridge]

Yeah, so probably just refer to this message

[ionic falcon]

I got in the top 60% in the Memorial arena with it

Which is not bad xD

[low ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[ionic falcon]

If I make a new account will it actually be better? I honestly am attached to some of the older characters like HoS and human ego

[low ridge]

You can get them for free

[ionic falcon]

And I'm only 20 pulls away from the new " Mei "

And I got Helio yesterday so I think it's fine no?

[low ridge]

How far along are you in the story?

[ionic falcon]

Ending of part 1

Btw any idea who is in the beginner banner now?

[low ridge]

Kiana and Fate defing dragon

[low ridge]

Oh that’s a lot of your crystals

[ionic falcon]

Kiana ba dum ? Or Finality

[low ridge]

Da dum

[ionic falcon]

I haven't tried anyone yet from part 2

Except for Helio

[low ridge]

You can do there tutorials

And it shows you there rotations

[ionic falcon]

Yeah I will

but where can i test my Dmg is there like a training dummy mode?

And to test the rotation also

For my older character

[low ridge]

No unfortunately

[ionic falcon]

I think a new account isn't worth it bro

I already got Helio and almost Mei

I'll do the same if I start over

Beginner account may get me 3 or 4 characters from Part 2 at max right?

Also

I will get Ho truth from the box in 3 days

[mortal carbon]

new accounts are a very subjective thing and highly depends on your goals tbh.

im not an expert like the profs. in here but i do know it basically boils down to how meta/competitive your goals are, and any account is salvageable to become meta again, just older accounts take longer than newer ones is the tl;dr but if you want to keep your old one then keep it! If you want to work on being meta then the experts in here can help you work on a gameplan to work your way to being more competitive with your old or a new account.

If you have lots of free time then you could always try making a new account on the side and try out both and see how you feel as well later on

[ionic falcon]

Yeah not that much time I think I'll stick with my account thanks for the tip though

So Helio the new one I got lightning

Which team is F2P for her

[mortal carbon]

it can depend a bit, but for basics i recommend giving the team building for the part 2 characters in this faq a read. keep in mind that part 1 and part 2 (astral ring) characters dont really mesh well, the part 2 ones are designed to synergize in ways that part 1 characters just cannot do

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

• the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
• the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
• the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

Astral Ring Team Building Resources:

• [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for a guide to Astral Ring team building fundamentals!
• Click here to view a spreadsheet of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[hardy lintel]

Guys, when is the carnival supply ending?

[low ridge]

I’m following the vid why my score so trash

[shell basin]

try following the dreamseeker run

you only have S chenxue

[hardy lintel]

hey Qtex, know when the date the carnival supply of kiana ends?

[shell basin]

4 days

[minor dawn]

What’s the point of those daily quests on top

[hardy lintel]

and no comming back right?

[shell basin]

correct. Her banner will rerun again at some point (most likely in ~2 patches asc supply, if it doesnt run sooner like next patch) but not as a carnival banner

[hardy lintel]

i kinda need to spend some resources for the event so i can get a Astral operator (songque) but idk what, i already got the current valks with weapons but also cant guarantee anything, was thinking maybe trying my luck on the dkey but i didnt got it so now im also kidna broke and dont know what to do ; ;

[shell basin]

how many crystals do you need to spend to get the AoP, how many do you have, what valkyries and astral ops do you have, and what Pity?

also why do you need to get the AOP?

[hardy lintel]

first, i only have like 4000 as of rn, and it the spedning event, i need like 2000 to finisht he current mission, then 1 more and done, i get her, then i only have the dreamseeker, the freeby one you get, ad 3rd idk i was told it was worth trying to get if i can afford it plus i like songque :3

[shell basin]

In terms of getting her she's the best thing to get, it's more just that in general spending events are more of a "bonus for what you already do" instead of "reason to pull"

that said yeah if you're that close and you like her going for her isn't unreasonable

so let's talk spending pulls

What valkyries do you already have and what is your pity at

[crude hinge]

hello! what is this and how do i do this?

[shell basin]

on each banner?

[shell basin]

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[shell basin]

second link

[crude hinge]

oohhhh so i just spend crystals

darn i should have gone for an ELF

[hardy lintel]

mi pitty on regular banners is basically 0 and like 15 on weapon, then i already got mei and Elysia ones with weapons and stigmas, and i have kiana badoon but not her weapon'

[shell basin]

and are you a newbie or is this an older account (ie, do you have starter manual and starter banners or no)?

[low ridge]

I still can’t do it what am I doing wrong

[glad ice]

open world story gameplay has daily tasks

[low ridge]

I have the team and I’m trying to follow the video to the best of my ability, but I don’t know what’s wrong

[hardy lintel]

im rather new but already finished all that

[glad ice]

no dmg?

[low ridge]

What you mean

[glad ice]

what u mean by "i still can't do it what am i doing wrong"

[low ridge]

Like I’m 100 score behind the video

[glad ice]

ofc

[shell basin]

I can't tell unless I see it then

try recording it

and then making a video

[low ridge]

Ok

[shell basin]

and then we'll watch the video and figure out what the mistake it

[glad ice]

check ur valks stats and compare with his valks at the end of the vid

and yeah high chance u played wrong at some point in rotation

[shell basin]

If I had to guess out of the aether I would be checking to see if luna ult hit bit it's silly to speculate

when it could be anything

[feral pelican]

should i do it?

[shell basin]

yes

[hardy lintel]

worth it

[feral pelican]

should i buy this to, to 55

[shell basin]

Upgrading pri arms is one of the more important things you can spend asterite to get

so unless you need them for time capsule

probably

[feral pelican]

oh i need to be 81

[shell basin]

not sure why ur fire gene limit is turned off but shouldnt matter too much

lemme watch the rest

[low ridge]

Clocked me already

[shell basin]

one big thing I'm seeing is that your ref hits them with the combo attack outside of SO before it starts

so you're missing a big chunk of damage from that by ringing too early

[low ridge]

Ref?

[shell basin]

reference

the rotation you're trying to copy

[low ridge]

Oh

[glad ice]

ur atk diff is ~200

[quick birch]

Tbh this run is just a big punching bag and 200 atk diff is quite a bit are you missing dorm/dkeys ?

[shell basin]

and then your second combo is missing buffs when the finisher hits

[low ridge]

Yes

[shell basin]

because you end SO too late / don't instantly rebuff, one of those two

so that damage also missing

and yeah then a lot of attack

I think your FDD ult in the intro is also 1 pt slow

thats not why ur losing that many pts I just noticed it

[low ridge]

What

[shell basin]

maybe 2 pts

you are clicking ult with luna too late

so your fdd qte is too late

so your fdd ult comes in 1-2 pts after it should

if you fix that it'll get you another 1-2 pts of score

[quick birch]

Also when you're using paws BA canceles you canceled her last BA hit where she punches the ground with your ult, that last hit has some decent DMG so pay attention to it

Might save you some other BAs for the mob

[glad ice]

try rebuff right after SO

[low ridge]

Ok

[glad ice]

then just stay on paws for 2 dps rot

u overkill with combo at the end so i guess it would be enough

[shell basin]

Between intro and first combo and yeah rebuffing after so

I expect somewhere around 750 is possible?

[low ridge]

I’m definitely going back to agony

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-surprised-shocked-gif-14940640833910619525

[quick birch]

Well dorm/dkeys is a time consuming process so you'll get there

Especially on a boss like this where you don't really have any special mechanics atk matters a lot

[low ridge]

I see that I thought I was going to do my big one but he definitely tore me a new one

I do need to start doing my dorm

[quick birch]

I mean dorm just progresses by collecting valks

[low ridge]

Who should I get

[quick birch]

Wow you have a lot of AW lmao

!faq wt

[small willow]

War Treasury Farming

Hey, Captain!

Click [here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the War Treasury Farming Recommendation, which is kept updated!

Short Answer:

• If there are limited-time discounts on character cards, buy them ASAP!
• Prioritise buying character cards of Valkyries that are in Elysian Realm.
• After that, unlock everyone else for dorm progression.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[low ridge]

So h.o.t spina and miss pink elf

Because I can farm them in Elysian realm

[quick birch]

Get HoT first for ER + stress test

[shell basin]

well he's getting like 4 at once

so first doesnt matter

[tall flax]

Agony 2 goes hard

whats the best support for Luna thats not Xentinel or FDD

this is my setup

[low ridge]

Should I get Luna s2

[shell basin]

THose are the correct two

dont run teri tho

[tall flax]

i dont have Chenxue

[shell basin]

Sonq?

teri does nothing except initial ari here

[tall flax]

SS Teri, 4* Kaslana

[shell basin]

Kiaelf or Dreamseeker both do more damage than teri

[outer spruce]

hey ron

[tall flax]

hihi

[shell basin]

anyway for Luna, PS Badum XDC FDD all usually pretty similar for scores

so you can just mix and match as needed

[tall flax]

i see, good to know

also is she good for LoA (for Badum/PS)

[shell basin]

Luna is good for supporting Paws and PS

not bis for anyone else afaik

but ofc her personal damage can sometimes be useful in LOA

esp since SS

[tall flax]

her LoA SO Ult does like 240 damage

[low ridge]

Should I buy the stamps for lunar vow so I can get her s2

[shell basin]

depends on what it's trading off with but stamps are in general a nice investment in stardust shop and S2 is noticable for both dps and support

so prolly

[tall flax]

using Kia Elf, i am 30 SP short of SO

well 24 but still

[shell basin]

oh egony 2. Yeah SO faster might be worth then for teri I guess

could also jus try PS dps here

might be faster even without full weather

[low ridge]

And should I get oath of Judas from the reserve shop

[shell basin]

No. Oath of Judah is in exchange shop

so no need to get it from reserve

[low ridge]

Oh

[shell basin]

other dkeys better to get in reserve

like 7t

[tall flax]

PS dps is not faster unfortunately

[shell basin]

alas

[low ridge]

I don’t have enough how do I get this stuff

[tall flax]

the 40% bonus from Grail of Infinitude is just too great

[low ridge]

I know it’s from converting weapons, but how do I get weapons to convert?

[shell basin]

You craft bounty weps in foundry

[quick birch]

Convert bounty weapons but pledge of Sakura is also in the foundry

[shell basin]

190 G1s from invitation to mirage, 150 AE imaginions, and a bunch of ether fuel

[tall flax]

for HLE ER does she benefit from Signet of Infinity?

[low ridge]

Yes

Who to pick

[shell basin]

none of them are meta so just grab one of the two you dont have for er unlocks

[low ridge]

Ik for dorm i’m thinking I should buy pe from war treasury then I get the 10 rank ups so I can get ss

So I can get the 16 xp

[shell basin]

There are better things to spend your AL on

plus two unlocks should be 16 xp anyway

so even then u can just unlock nyx and PE for same dorm xp

[low ridge]

So what should I get the rank up stamps for aponia or what

[glad ice]

get the valk u dont have is the better idea

[shadow tendon]

when will hotr be added to WT? or any predictions at all?

[low ridge]

Probably like 1 or 2 versions idk we don’t have any info so just a guess because of the way it’s going

[minor dawn]

I am in chapter 18 do i still have enough crystal income to get mei (50 pulls left) and her weapon

[low ridge]

So if you do all the story after chapter one including 1.5 and part2 and chronicles you can get 19,920 which is 71 pulls

[minor dawn]

Oof that’s tight

I hope i get lucky

[turbid bane]

Whats the fastest way to get gems???

[minor dawn]

I still have most of the login rewards and returnee so maybe it’ll clutch

[low ridge]

But if you do, you’re abyss dailies and memorial for the next two weeks you can get 24,880 which is 88 pulls

[minor dawn]

ER for me

[turbid bane]

Ngl I havent touched it and I js dont wanna skip the story there

[minor dawn]

Don’t have to the story doesn’t give gems anyways it’s the character trials and levels

And the weekly 500

[low ridge]

The fastest way would probably be doing your story

[turbid bane]

Does it take long??
I havent met Elysia in the story

[turbid bane]

I know that but it takes time yk

And im at chapter 20

[minor dawn]

Damn fr? Like consistant 80 pulls every 2 weeks ? Or js these

Wait no you counted the story i am dumb

[low ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[minor dawn]

No bcs i thought i wasn’t playing the same game or sum

Ik that with the new patch duration an f2p can guarentee the s rank but not guarentee the weapon

But like there is skips here and there so

And luck

[low ridge]

I don’t think there’s ever been two weeks where you could get 80 pulls in the history of this game

[minor dawn]

That only happens in crk

[crisp gale]

Wow
In the last week or so, ive gained enough pulls to claim the last fragment boxes from the spend event
I decided to redeem Herrsher of Thunder
I Cant believe how EASY combat has become in alot of places i just couldnt touch before

Just with the single addition of H Of Thunder over a bunch of random a and b ranks

Anyway, main question
Now that i have serious firepower

What content should i focus on while doing the story?

[shell basin]

You should make sure to do your weekly abyss (qmanifold) and Elysian realm (if you’re level 50)

Those give biweekly and weekly crystals

HoT is not reccomended from a meta perspective but it sounds like you don’t have very meta goals and it’s too late now anyway?

[crisp gale]

HoT is my first S rank
And i still have the annivrsary selector if needed

I couldnt beat floor 5 of manifold before i owned HoT, and with, i beat floor 10
I feel like that is a reasonable step up

[shell basin]

Yeah, HoT is a lot stronger than most of the early game A ranks? It’s just that’s all she is

Whereas someone like ||Silverwing NEX fragments|| could have been very useful to you if you get ||her new gear next patch||

Since ||dkey silverwing blows HoT Mei out of the water even if Mei has her best gear||

Anyway aside from that our current recommendation is that if you have the crystals to afford it (and newbies should if they’re playing actively) to pull Xentinel Dawnbearing Crescent and her weapon from the gacha

She should also be as much of an upgrade over HoT as HoT was over your previous options

[crisp gale]

I could not get NEX

I only got 50 boxes, and she wasnt one of the ones i could get 2 fragments per box from

There wasnt many

[shell basin]

You could have gotten her from the box and then gotten fragments to get her up to S2

With the fragments

[crisp gale]

I mean
She is inevitable right?
Being on Standard?

[shell basin]

She is farmable in the war treasury yes. So is everyone whose fragments you could get

But farming her up is very slow

And it could have sped you up a lot. Like I said it’s not a huge deal and it sounds like it’s too late

[crisp gale]

I can still grab her
If she could pair good with Thunder
Being my team is currently

HoThunder/swallowtail/blastmetal

And i have the box still

[shell basin]

She doesn’t pair well with HoT no. Hence it sounds like you have some non meta goals?

We can give advice here for optimizing for meta, or I can give advice for making the most out of Herrscher of thunder

And they’re both entirely fine ways to play the game

They’re just different advice so I’d rather know which you want

[crisp gale]

Is it possible for me to get thunders unique?

Just as a side note, before i make any real questions on how to proceed

[shell basin]

Yes

Her signature weapon is in the reserve works

And it’s actually reccomended to get (7 thunders of retribution)

Not for HoT, it’s for the account wide attack

But if you like HoT that’s a nice bonus

And then for stigs you can also get her unique ones but she actually prefers Handel (also available, This time craftable)

But they’re kind of expensive

[crisp gale]

I do like thunder
Her ult is cool, and uh...
I only got her bc she seemed strong when i was using her as a trial char with HoVoid

[shell basin]

She was very strong when she released and then very strong again when she got 7 thunders but that was years ago now

So for meta purposes she got replaced by Luna Vow who then got upgraded with divine key about a month ago, which makes her power crept twice over

(Directly, anyway, she’s also old enough that plenty of non direct replacements would take her shill like HoO)

[crisp gale]

I think im fine with that, im not looking for meta gaming this early in the game, mainly lookin to have fun with cool looking chars

So, whats the Reserve works again?

[shell basin]

It’s the free battlepass shop

[crisp gale]

Yikes, 10 ball things?

[shell basin]

Yeah, takes 2 versions to save up for it

If you’re F2P

You can give her other weapons in the mean time like Jizo Mitama but seven thunders is an enormous upgrade for HoT

[crisp gale]

Oh hey, Keys of the void are in there
Makes it almost tempting to get HoVoid, as she was p fun
Maybe by the time i saved up for a second weapon, i need to jack up the strength of my current carry no doubt

I currently have, lightning soul on her

And 3 piece edison

[shell basin]

Anyway yeah if you want to make good use of her her BiS team is usually going to be Her with Handel and 7 Thunders, and then for supports ideally Luna with part 1 gear or HotR and Schicksal’s imperative or Golden Diva, but those are all expensive

So for the short term you could consider Valkyrie Blastmetal and then Golden Diva

[lyric anvil]

Aren't you given Key of Void for free or?

[shell basin]

Newbies get both HoV and her wep for free but it sounds like they might not be new new?

[crisp gale]

My dumb ahh logged on for one day when Elysia was said to be free

Didnt realize i had more tutorial, and got a lil bored, and dropped the game until a few weeks ago

[shell basin]

Ah, that’s unfortunate. Fair enough, though, especially since you don’t seem to have meta goals so no need to suggest a new account pursuing them

[crisp gale]

Sadly, this is the big problem
This is my main hoyo account, so i have to main this one

[shell basin]

Well theoretically you could just use the same account but in another server like EU

[crisp gale]

But now, unlike a few weeks ago when i actually needed massive help, i have an actual damaging unit
So i think i could recover fairly ok now

[shell basin]

And yeah any account can be recovered

So no need to worry to much in that score, especially if you aren’t interested in rushing meta asap

Good news about HoV too

Her weapon is in the exchange shop

[crisp gale]

Feels off, im alr quite use to the america servers timing, itd throw me off a bit, as i play in this zone for all other hoyo games

[shell basin]

So you don’t need to get it from reserve works

[crisp gale]

Time to go see how realistic this is

[shell basin]

Exchange shop still takes some grinding but it’s cheaper overall and not version limited

!faq mirage

[small willow]

Universal Mirage

Hi Captain!

See [here](#👶beginner-help message) For the Universal Mirage farming priority list!

Regarding Efficient Ether Fuel Farming (assumes you convert all stones into fuel):

F1: 10 per entry ticket + 0.6000 per 1 TSP
F2: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6333 per 1 TSP
F3: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6428 per 1 TSP
F4: 13 per entry ticket + 0.6500 per 1 TSP
F5: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6666 per 1 TSP
F6: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6700 per 1 TSP - (best efficiency!)
F7: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6600 per 1 TSP

If not using Time Swirl Passes (TSP), F5/6/7 are equal in efficiency.

[crisp gale]

Oh.... Oh no

Its that?

[shell basin]

Just G1s

You get 4 bounty weapons, turn them into resonance, and get the weapon from exchange shop

Details for how to do that are in the first link if you care

If you don’t care you can also just give HoV some other weapons

It’ll be worse ofc but she’s not meta anyway and she should be strong enough to have fun with okay without it

But I figured it’d be useful to know

[crisp gale]

If Keys of Void are in here, then maybe i should be tempted to grab HoVoid
She does play good and look cool
And im like, pretty sure at the part of the story shes at

But, an entire aniversary box on recovering my HoVoid?

[shell basin]

She’s also in war treasury

And she’s pretty cheap there

Whereas lots of things in the box are expensive to get in the war treasury

Or not there at all like HotR

War treasury is the shop for old S ranks and HoV can be bought with the cheaper currency there

[crisp gale]

She is 900 of the currency

How realistic is that

As earlygame as i am, with only 1 actually decent dps

[shell basin]

It’ll take a bit, won’t happen overnight. Hard to say exactly how long since a lot of the income there is from higher level memorial arena

So it depends on how quickly you level up

[crisp gale]

I clicked into open world 🙁

Im like, lv45

[shell basin]

Which open world? APHO or part2?

[crisp gale]

Uhhh

I dont know
I just saw open world before it loaded

[shell basin]

Probably part 2 then

[crisp gale]

||Mei is talking about Mr Welt||

[shell basin]

Oh no that’s APHO

It gives a bunch of nice rewards but is a little disconnected from the story you’re doing since it’s set in the far future

Even if it doesn’t spoil much

[crisp gale]

I am trying to get past the dialouge as i have better things to do, but also i wanna pay attention because i wont be able to replay this
Ahhhh

[shell basin]

APHO is technically the furthest forward part of time in the Hi3 story but it came out years ago so it can’t spoil anything recent (besides who didn’t die I guess)

[crisp gale]

I see

I got out

Whew
Ill do that, later on

I have a main story to struggle through still haha

[vernal ivy]

Is my sw pri weapon wasted since she ||get a divine key and all? So i heard||

[shell basin]

||well it was already not especially useful outside of ER and the new wep prolly replaces it there so yeah||

[vernal ivy]

[covert notch]

I don't have Sleepy Teri , is it worth getting her ||next patch using BP?||

[lyric anvil]

Spoiler that and ||likely not, Valks in BP works are quite expensive and considering she's in bp, she's likely not gonna see a whole lot of use outside QUA which is once in in a blue moon||

[covert notch]

I see thank you and sorry for that

[lyric anvil]

[frozen crypt]

Its BiS on Haxxor Bunny

[hasty elbow]

Hey yall I began the game a while ago but dropped early and like just came back, does anyone have any pulling advice for rn? I can send my roster but it has like practically nothing

[lyric anvil]

Depends on your current crystal count and pity

[hasty elbow]

Im only at 10 pits i think and i have around 5500 crystals, but i also have like all of the game content to do

[lyric anvil]

You probably will be able to get XDC and her gear then

Though may I also see your current roster?

[arctic vessel]

(((I hope sw's CEO outfit gonna appear soon in the outfit shop its so peak aaaa my 170 pink tickets are ready for it, i missed the spending event related to it before)))

[hasty elbow]

Here!

[lyric anvil]

Would also suggest getting VBm and her weapon from part 2 chapter 1

[hasty elbow]

Who is that sorry? I lowk know nothing abt this game 😭

[lyric anvil]

Valkyrie Blastmetal
There's a glossary of terms in the pins if you'd like to take a read of it ^^

[hasty elbow]

Oh amazing I will, is she on a banner or are they free?

[lyric anvil]

^

Let me grab a photo

[hasty elbow]

Tysm 🙏

[vernal ivy]

Got told to get this but i have no clue what i can do with it

[lyric anvil]

If you have blast Hammer
Go to syncs when you click on it

[vernal ivy]

Mmh, guess i dont have blast hammer yet, havent done part 2 story

Thank you

[hasty elbow]

So do i just get that by playing through the story or can i get it now?

[lyric anvil]

After doing chapter 1, you can claim both her and her weapon

For part 2

[hasty elbow]

Ok cool ill just keep playing the story then

Did you say I should pull on the current banner tho?

[lyric anvil]

New Mei and her weapon yes

[hasty elbow]

Kk

[hasty elbow]

Oh btw i forgot to ask are the characters i have rn worth building or no?

[lyric anvil]

Can use SI temporarily as a support for XDC before getting get TA from the Asterite shop
But yeah not worth building what you have right now

[hasty elbow]

Sounds good

[lyric anvil]

[hasty elbow]

Ty for the help!!

[lyric anvil]

Np

[prisma oyster]

how much fragments do u get if u choose a dupe in the s rank valk box?

[lyric anvil]

Or wait-

Ik it's 50 for if you get a dupe from gacha and from box for regular

Idk about awakened, guessing it's 50 frags also?

Ah awakened is 70 frags

[oak estuary]

Its 150 now

[lyric anvil]

Oh they upped it?

[oak estuary]

Was upped in 7.3 iirc

[lyric anvil]

I see

[crude hinge]

hellooooo does anybody wanna do this??????

[prisma oyster]

yes me hold on

24612872CR

wait does it work across servers

[novel schooner]

Is there any active tierlist or website that has a good tierlist

[lyric anvil]

Tierlists aren't viable in this game
It's usually go for the newest release

[spring thicket]

And doing that in my experience as a newbie tends to work really well

[lyric anvil]

[crude hinge]

thank you!! let me test

[lyric anvil]

You might have some complications with the code

[crude hinge]

sigh it says unavailable 💔💔

[thick bolt]

code doesn't work cross server so if it doesn't then pick an EU one over on #invite-links-here
||or just use mine 208131823YU ||

[crude hinge]

do u need mine tho

[lyric anvil]

Smh Star

[crude hinge]

THANKS

[lyric anvil]

Yeah
Can't accept codes from different servers, only the one your account is in

[crude hinge]

203125687QF EU server

[lyric anvil]

#invite-links-here

[quick birch]

You can only enter a code if you're new or a returnee

So they can't do a lot with yours

[thick bolt]

spamming code across in game chat channels tends to work, all on luck though

[lyric anvil]

[crude hinge]

oh 😭

[prisma oyster]

damn rip

[feral pelican]

do people actually use the codes from this place

if i invite 5 people i can get 1500 crystals

[lyric anvil]

Yeah

[feral pelican]

i have to be rerurnee right?

[crude hinge]

yeah but i already got it done so i don't need ^^

[feral pelican]

if anyone would like to type my code i would be really thankful its in invite links chat

[minor dawn]

Do double buffs in ER not allow elysia to appear

[ancient needle]

Wdym

The 90-second stage clear bonus?

Ely signets can still appear in those

[spring thicket]

can even force them to appear with certain things you earn via story

[minor dawn]

Alr cuz i was wondering if i was js wasting my resets on them

[thick bolt]

Ely signet portals are rare so if you're aiming for those then a strategy is to start with the "because of you" sigil and trigger it as soon as it has max energy as that will be a bonus floor (floor 6).
Then you can just switch it out for whatever else you wanted to use

makes it so you have 3 ely by the first mini boss

[minor dawn]

I am using the sigil i am js farming levels and trying to get all the elysia buffs for the 20 gems

[thick bolt]

ah

for both of those you can spam a lower difficulty on lite with only clearing first boss (choosing different ely signets each time). there isn't much reward difference between higher and lower and the time taken for a complete run is longer for less payoff

But yeah if you want to do full runs there's nothing wrong with that as well

[feral pelican]

um i wanted to finish the spending event

40 smth pity...

in 40k gems i got 3 S characters and weapon

should i now actaully save for rita or try to get hle sig

i hope nobody is mad that helped me and told me not to do it...

im 10 annulon away to get jovial

[low ridge]

Try to get her weapon and if you don’t get it it saves over to Rita’s weapon banner

Because she needs her weapon even to support

[feral pelican]

isee thank u very much

ill try, tbh im not evn mad abit love her

also is jovial good

[minor dawn]

Yep exactly what i am doing :3 thanks for clarification

[minor dawn]

Ugh i wanna get her sm

[feral pelican]

well i need to now get her sig, rita and ritas sig just bc i can’t stop

LMAO

she’s beautiful and i wish i couldve get her skin

[low ridge]

No she’s very niche and needs weapon to dps

[minor dawn]

I was gonna return on her patch but kept forgetting to download the game

[feral pelican]

oh so bascially now i bricked my account trying to get her and got hle

[low ridge]

And only used as a loa support and I don’t think you have a loa dps

[minor dawn]

Should i pri arm this for mote stats?

[low ridge]

You don’t build pity in the game you just save

Bc of situations like this

Because pulling a Valkyrie without their weapon is kind of useless

[feral pelican]

i mean i was kidding with the bricking, i love her so doesnt matter too much

ill get her sig tho trust

[minor dawn]

Just try in the future to see spending events as bonuses not goals

[feral pelican]

and idk what how ill get rita but lets pray

[low ridge]

Ok I wish you luck

[minor dawn]

Ig unless if it was smth like hofi back in vita’s patch and you didn’t have her

[feral pelican]

the game is really nice to me so i somehow can’t get away from pulling button

[quick birch]

nah it's not worth it, VBs isnt really used anymore and from what i could see you also dont need the damage for the current cycle

[low ridge]

But can still be used as a support most of the time

[feral pelican]

man i feel like im rb rn

[minor dawn]

I have a tip for that try finding generous games you don’t care abt and pull until your fingers are sore at worse watch pulling videos or or search up pulling simulators

[feral pelican]

well im saying it but its more like i can’t stop when theres a character i like but maybe i shouldnt do it

and pulling always wins, for now im more of a lore player anyway

so don’t want to bring myself down bc i shouldnt do smth

ykwim

[minor dawn]

Alt accounts! I made a new acc cuz i liked badum sm

I actually got xdc on that acc before this one and started wondering if i should switch over

[feral pelican]

i’m playing 5 gatchas rn and to actually have pulls on both accounts its hard

[grim tangle]

Everyone needs their weapon atp

[feral pelican]

im also new so im still just clearing the new content

[grim tangle]

How far have you progressed

[minor dawn]

True

Thanks god reverse and hsr take like 5 minutes each for dailies

[grim tangle]

40 pulls and a dream for e0s1 evanescia + sp sw

[feral pelican]

here

[grim tangle]

What

[minor dawn]

20 pulls and a cyrene + phainon LC + dahlia LC whenever they rerun

[grim tangle]

Only chap 10?

[feral pelican]

yup😭😭😭

[grim tangle]

Whos gonna tell him...

[minor dawn]

….don’t

[grim tangle]

Ahem

[feral pelican]

wdym

[grim tangle]

-# they all rerun in 4.2 all together

[feral pelican]

oh

[minor dawn]

Yeah f dahlia lc

[lyric anvil]

Still plenty of crystals

[feral pelican]

and i’m doing also the abyss thingy all the time but i get 300 from it

[grim tangle]

They nerfed eva too

[feral pelican]

i think i need to get higher ish idk

[grim tangle]

Im in the 2nd part of red lotus and my mei cant even tickle anymore

[minor dawn]

Idc abt elation for now until himeko Sp

[grim tangle]

Ooo another himeko lover

One of my frnds saved 600 pulls for sp himeko

[quick birch]

smol reminder to keep this channel hi3 related and move to #off-topic-discussion if you want to discuss hsr
going off topic for a bit from time to time is okay but know when to cut the convo or move channels

[lyric anvil]

^

[grim tangle]

Question, I got a double HLE while pulling only becuase I needed to complete the spending event, and then I got her weapon with a single pull when I was pulling for her stigmas. Should I keep pulling for the stigmas or save my crystals and luck?

[lyric anvil]

Save your crystals

[quick birch]

craft the stigmatas in the foundry

no need to continue pulling

[minor dawn]

I don’t think jds it worth all that hastle

[grim tangle]

Youd be surprised to hear how broke i am in that

[minor dawn]

Salvage and do your events

[grim tangle]

Salvage what

I have nothing 🙏

[minor dawn]

Dupes

[lyric anvil]

No stig dupes?

[minor dawn]

Still check them regularly i found like 5 PS stigmata dupes laying around

[grim tangle]

Twin I js started 16 days ago

[grim tangle]

I already fed allat to mei

[minor dawn]

I would concinder crafting before fully leveling tbh

[limber storm]

where r u in the story im curious I started around that time too

[grim tangle]

And then i crafted coralies stigma set

[grim tangle]

Chapter 26-28

[limber storm]

ah im on 29

[quick birch]

prisms are a tight resources for beginners yeab but it's still not worth to waste crystals while trying to gamble for some random stigs

[grim tangle]

Is thst sbr

[minor dawn]

Yall are quick i opened my acc on the last fu hua battlesuit (with breaks ofc) and i am on 18 and don’t have stamina at all for story

[minor dawn]

Stop.

[limber storm]

I hate leveling valk up system im glad the other hoyo games dont have it

[grim tangle]

Er

[grim tangle]

I js needed them crystals

[lyric anvil]

If they have the starter manual
They can likely buy them from the training plan shop

[grim tangle]

I totally didn't spend it all for getting money and stigmas

Im bricking my account in many ways but my luck keeps saving me

[minor dawn]

I am pretty sure it’s enough to empty it evry week

[grim tangle]

Ill check

Crafting stigmas take 6 prisms for full set ans 3600 green somethings

I think I only have 1200

[quick birch]

you only need 600 ether fuel per stig

so 1800 for full set

[grim tangle]

Oh

[grim tangle]

So, does upgrading stigmas to lvl 50 matter alot or is it okay to leave them at 30

Because I'll be totally broke in prisms after this

[quick birch]

it does matter but it's more important for HLE to have her stigs because it does include a lot of her buffs and then focus on leveling the stigs of the newest valk you have, generally it's just that newer releases take priority because they're shilled more often

[grim tangle]

Current abyss is XDC shill, yes?

Mine doesnt even tickle the enemies

I think this is like the 2nd red lotus abyss for me

Like I survived the 1st red lotus and this is the 2nd one after ranking up

[quick birch]

it's paws shill but if you're HLE is ungeared then xdc will still be better, xdc is sadly type countered so her dmg is a bit nerfed

i assume you only own xdc and hle ?

[grim tangle]

Yes

[lyric anvil]

Current abyss enemies also ice immune

[grim tangle]

🥀

This is it for me then

Wonder if ill get demoted to back to the red lotus i could handle or just get sent back to agony

[quick birch]

well i doubt you'll be able to do a lot here then, though iirc you mentioned you started 16 days ago what level are you ?

[quick birch]

well there's just one red lotus

[grim tangle]

73

[lyric anvil]

Still in qmani

[grim tangle]

Yes

[quick birch]

then i'd guess that it should be doable, do you have an idea on how to rotate your team ?

[grim tangle]

Yeah

I learnt how the buffs work

Js thst my hle is lit useless now since the enemies had to be immune to ice

Coralie and XDC only hope

[lyric anvil]

Ignore my comment

[quick birch]

i dont think we share the same enemies in q manifold and superstring dimension so that statement from before doesnt really apply, HLE support dmg is minor anyway

you can try to describe/ record your rot so that we could see if there's anything wrong with it but there isnt a lot more we can do tbh

[grim tangle]

Idk if it matters tbh

Im stuck at stage 4 🙏

Yes, I cant beat those whatever mechas

Theyre too tanky for my mei

[grim tangle]

Coralie ult right after strting and then 3 set of her hammer to get the buff, switch to hle ult hold + skill + ult, switch to XDC skill, basic attk, full basic attk, hold attk, skill, basic attk, ult, hold + hold. I get my steller burst by then and its all js repeat

Hoping that im doing everything wrong and theres hope for me

[quick birch]

there's no real need to still do coralie WA after her ult other than jump -> ba -> wa for stellar drain, if her ult hits she already applies her debuffs

what are you doing in SO now that you have HLE ? dunno if it's worth to go all out with the hle SP regen but might be wort a try

[grim tangle]

Whats SO 😔

[quick birch]

stellar outburst

[grim tangle]

Like the cutscene she gets in her stellar burst when u use her ult?

I dont think i can go all in for HLE main dps if thats what ur suggesting

Mei is like 100% built for my current level

[quick birch]

the mode you enter when you can activate the blue shiny button left besides your atk button

[grim tangle]

But yea, hle is s2 w her sign if that even matters in this game

[lyric anvil]

Or Jump WA WA but I digress

[quick birch]

nah HLE's purpose as a symbioses support is to generate SP for the main DPS in SO

the mode you enter when this is full and you activate it

[lyric anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/herrscher-of-rebirth-seele-vollerei-honkai-impact-3-gif-15530084833390026791

[lyric anvil]

Animation of when entering SO

[grim tangle]

I know about the mode but doesnt she js use those SP for herself when u use her ult

Idk how the rotation works in SO

You guys have a vid?

[quick birch]

nope her ult is free when she's not the leader, you just do SO -> mei ult x 4 -> ca x 3 -> hle qte -> ult -> wa x 2 -> hold ult -> swap to mei ult until you have no SP left then either CA into WA or just WA when hle didnt regen enough SP for 2 ults

[quick birch]

the general idea of SO for grail of infinitude units
do your DPS rotation -> swap to your supports and ult + maybe do another action for more SP this varries per fight and battlesuit -> go back to your DPS do their rot again and then exit SO

since you dont have 2 symbioses supports you wont be able to use xdc's SO to it's fullest extend but can still get some benefits out of it

[grim tangle]

Alright, thanks for explaining

Ill try that out and see if I can atlsast secure 200 more crystals from this abyss

[runic jetty]

Where can I share invite codes in this server ?^?

[shell basin]

#invite-links-here

[runic jetty]

Thank yuuuu! Haha u’re always there to help ;^;

[ancient needle]

We can just do it here, that way multiple people can join the convo

Which Elysia though? There's 3 of them

[feral pelican]

do u have her sig?

[grim tangle]

Mhmm

[low ridge]

This just might be my luckiest account ever I got Kiana in the first 10 just got Mei in the first 20 and now I’m gonna get both of their weapons and if I get those early, I’m probably gonna go for Fdd or maybe hle I don’t really know which one

Should I get hle so I can have two goi teams or get Fdd and have Mei best team and a Kiana team