#👶beginner-help
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What team should I do for this abyss
actually you might want to do sena/vbs/fws here if you can fill the paralyze trauma with just vbs weapon skill
is it lightnign or para weather
Melee
it's melee, but sampo has a transition that can end early with para trauma
the hat thing
ye
The cope para guns aren’t remotely enough for sampo transition right? So you can’t put them on Badum and replace VBS
Even if you have them
Oh yeah and Badum would be your only better dps anyway, nevermind
No point
I think I was thinking Eden’s but idt they’d be enough either
And it wouldn’t get you that much anyway since you’d still be using Sena dps
not enough
vbs seems to be the only shout tbh, I was also thinking of running a team with vbs in it to cope
Yeah true on both counts
only issue is you can apply para trauma every 9 seconds
I always slept on sampo so I dont know if that's enough or not
Tbh I think the play is to just hope not enough players have paws
And everyone else without paws skill issues
If 10 people have paws it’s hopeless even if they can’t play
i'm still in redlotus this cycle
im hopeful (even though in nirv) but horb vbs lp seems to be an angle for me
i can try how far I'm getting with it
@proper quiver you don't have vbs weapon right?
Good luck
you dont loose much from having it or not
but i can use the second best thing
oh wait is he running dsa dps?
yes
gg
that was the plan
Gulp
i have ta-da max with syn 3
so i guess i can tell you how far i can get with that
wait no
okay forget it, i forgot i don't have sena

The Side nodes are taking forever
who are you using
id test it on my side but.... I have a slight weapon issue regarding sena
the suggested team?
Sena horb vbs
hm okay
can you try horb/sena/fws?
should perform better
or hle instead of sena
since she has more resonance triggers
Ok I’ll try while doing the nodes
what should you use balls on?
Hey there, Captain! 
Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.
There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.
- Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
- Knight BP: 18 per patch
- Paladin BP: 24 per patch
It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).
Which story stages should I do? I dont have the time to wait 4hrs for sim battle 
dorm expiditions count btw
i forgot those existed...
or regular expiditions if you havent finished any for the one time crystals
the thing is recommending PAWS > FWS > PS, is there another hit count boss in this abyss?
paws fdd fws/ps should be the higher scoring team atm
its just that in 8.3 there was no fdd
no idea what the difference between them is
though ps has generally been more used with paws
...
any context for what pity you were talking about
Yeah I saw that
This guy is a beginner, low on pity and need a otc guide
Cant send picture in general chat 
I just need gems 😔
Yeah thats the guaranteed thing u need to notice
!faq otc
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!
Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!
Okay okay but how long is this going to take?
well depends what you are doing
I cant magically tell how fast or slow you are and what you are gonna do
I mean I want to read all of the story but I could just start burning every chapter
U can replay part 1 story
They are divided into stages, not a one time open world
you can also find summaries of the chapters online if you dont wanna read back through it
Yes, press skip for fastest time
If you want the crystal immediately
up to you honestly
Hi! I started reading Part 2 story beyond Chapter 3 only a couple days ago. Are there any valuable time-limited rewards in the last chapter? Do I need to speedrun all the story and how long could it take? (First 3 chapters were not too time-consuming, are the next ones much larger?)
time limited rewards will only apply to the newest chapter, not the older ones and I believe there shouldnt be any atm, but I will double check just incase
There is some in the anni event
oh ye those ones, but I meant like we had in the previous chapters, limited time crystal rewards
I just want to do everything in order not to mess up with all the story stuff
But this chapter in specific dont
150 gems for last 3 chapters?
And Starry shop currency, you mean this one?
you dont lose crystals for delaying the newer chapters
what should i buy spending shop? just unlocked exalted a few days ago in this acc
what boba is mentioning is the anniversary shop which has a couple of notable items (mainly the level up coupon and dkey box)
one of the missions requires you to complete the newest story chapter
I dont remember how many crystal correctly but it is the star thing
get another 400 stars and take Thelema 😉
I personally would like an ELF
that's literally bricking
Have you read the pin about the spending event?
done pulling btw?
Okay so I don't have to hurry. I heard there were free VBm stigmas and VBs crossbow for some early chapter and they were time-limited
What exactly? Tele or ELF?
That time limit was a long time ago
continuing to pull when not needed to get a unit who they most likely dont have a weapon for and sees little to no use cases at the moment outside ss ma
VBm weapon in chapter 1, u have to craft the stigs
yea
both HLE and PS 4/4 by first week of carnival
Yeah, free VBm stigs and VBs weap are gone for a very long while alr
then as shessair mentioned you will benefit from checking the pin as it goes over everything, more likely than not assuming kiaelf isnt 3* or 4* yet, that will probs be the next best decision
Okay, sorry for misleading, it was kinda joke, i even put a smile there: 😉
keep in mind this is a help channel more targetted towards beginners, what may seem obvious for others and a joke for you can be taken seriously by those who are unaware
and you can of course lose privileges to type here if this is a re-occurring thing so for your sake do try to be cautious
that and the sarcasm isn't always as obvious depending on the person
Yeah, I got her hammer from chapter 2 or 3 I believe. But idk where can I get Helia's crossbow (since I want to max her someday)
so ELF boxes? don't exactly see much of an use for KiaElf outside MA strats
in 1 SO situations elfs can be better than ds, in fact kiaelf was the best option during sparkle weather not too long ago
basically, every fire and lightning p2 valk is better off with kiaelf 3*+, as long as it's redlotus
it situational, but its always good to have ready when needed
Helia's crossbow was gacha on debut, we got a free one few patches ago
i dont think we can get it again in anytime soon
Sorry. I understand. Hope there is no sane person who would blindly run and apply any first advice they see 😉
the only exception imo would be LoA cycles
badum had cycles where ds performed better
then again, loa with no teri is pain
yeah what can you do though
not that she is recommended to pull for
that and backpulling might not be worth either way
same principal: ELFs/astral ops dont matter when RL or lower
even if you want the nirvana push
correct
for aops that is
elfs are free
and they can give you an situational edge like we already stated
ig im gonna stack them up
How often do we get ELF boxes? Not every spending event?
The most recent ones have all had a box at least.
only once so far
i meant a full elf unlock
not just fragments
the fragments usually appear in major spending events
like this one
the full elf box came as an extra event with specific missions to complete. it was mostly just "play event up to this part" and "finish story chapter mission x"
I meant only fragments, didn't know even there was FULL elf unlock.
oh, i see. interesting
!faq bigspending
Be careful, Captain! 
Spending Events give you huge bonuses for spending Crystals and Supply Cards.
Not to be confused with [Top-Up Events](#👶beginner-help message)!
There are two types of Spending Event:
- ["Big" Spending Events](#👶beginner-help message)
- ["Mini" Spending events](#👶beginner-help message)
here's the usual stuff in both types of events
last mini spending was last patch
but they don't always come back to back
we usually know when they arrive through cn release schedule
Yeah, I like this 2-week+ window to be always prepared. Pretty nice thing
saved many from hasty decisions
As I remember spending evets were almost every patch
eh, there were many patches since without them
Yeah. Unlike other gacha games
it cycles between small top up events, mini spending events and big spending events, you dont usually see big spending events outside special cases like cny (glb anni) or cn anni
this patch for example being cn anni 
so cny is next
ye its the best time for hoyo to make money, release op unit, reset top ups and put a spending event for max gains
maybe MasterCard deal while they're at it
8.1 being an example 
id unironically put money into my other bank just to spend on honkek
since they give mastercards there
I've just had no time to handle it due to exams
Yeee, I liked this event so much since I got Thelema literally for free (but had very bad luck in Elysia pulls though)
you win some, you lose some
Hard pity is pretty common
both can go as hard as hard pity or soft as one pull payout
I can vouch
horb dk came in one 10 pulls, but when i pulled fdd and chenxue the banners showed no mercy
hle was average pity
what's important is that you're prepared for the worst case
both crystals and mentally
I got mine 4 pulls before hard pity 
It was 8 pity
ah man
So half of that
i remember tradey cursing me for getting dk so early 
wait ram
if tradey cursed you
and you went late
but ches cursed me
and I got it fairly early (like 40ish pulls)
i mean he cursed me after my pulls were over
I think I cracked the code
i pulled horb last
I know I hard pitied the elf and I would guess I probably did the same with her weapon or got it before hard pity
never get ches's blessing 
what blessing bro I was hard pitying every banner before it, you cant curse something beyond cursed
just negative gains
I was in a call with my sister when I did my pulls 
2 negatives makes a positive y'know?
that's why you need to have bad pulls before blessed by ches
im telling you I cracked the code
mhmm
Lol
so next patch I tell ches to curse me again
I get valk and weapon in 10 pulls
since my luck is infamous
btw, any ideas what I could use that comes close to sena lead?
i want to help that pawsless sea guy
Last patch was much better to me 
VBs also
vbs sucks as a dps not worth mentioning
Make me a sensei rn
you need vbs in supports for trauma
No 😖
im planning on trying horb lp vbs
okay how did the fight go?
I ran out of time
details
what did you use
just to be 100% sure
winnable
your horb has dkey right
Yes
she does
what rank is this?
A3
fr?
Mhm
can confirm, D is 495
I’m deranking but it’s whatever
RL is above 500
A3 IS ALMOST 500???
yeah
old players are slowly falling
who refuse to play p2
and newbies might have A2 as a new norm
what brain eating amoebas do to someone
Ima try this
just look in r1
and anyone who "quit" the game
Everyday I regret getting sena over paws
Your lead is still melee, so it can work 
how did you do transition
Vbs weapon skill and a couple basics
Very easy
and weapon skill exploded the hats?
Yes
Can her Ult inflict Para or?
no
Damn 
only non-full WA outside SO and her first full WA inside SO
What is next abyss
she throws a bomb that applies paralyze after a small hitcounter
ice raven iirc
yeah ice raven
thank god enough paws

Paws payola needs to end
thelemas rise up
I'm forced to use HLE, PAWS, FDD on that
This is worse than last abyss

last abyss was literally do damage
there were no gimmicks
sampo is just annoying to fight
Benares wasn't bad 
i dont have fdd weapon
benares is a meatsack
so it was cooked
Ignite and Bleed
please tell me most abyss isnt this bad
nah
welcome to shill
dw next patch you will see a hle weather that the same people who skipped hle will complain about like we are complaining about paws
Most of the Abyss will be catered to the patches Valkyrie
a few more hle bosses
try being in A3 when they arrive
Fooking door
wait its fire litost
so badum should be an option for eclipse
fdd can still apply the ignite for transition without weapon
bro why is sena dying
like the score gap was huge
that's just sena
need to dodge, sena isnt invulnerable
Then there's a shit boss after Kevin
sena buff when
never hopefully
sena dlc when
never hopefully
new valk would be nice
i would sell sena for 30 pulls
I would sell sena for a kiss on the cheek from da wei, she isnt worth shit
||Fucking Extreme Weather Flying Fish after Kevin||

I'm cooked on kevin
what is symphony
why is paws payola so strong
Sena can be another option
whos mps
she has fdd buffs and GoI in general is a super strong ring
oh thelemaa
ye ig with hle/mps and fws/hofi/vbm/tfm
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY P2 FIRE UNITS FFS
Not many for WoD
what om stupid
wod has 3 units bro 
its 3/8
and who can go into which ring?
consider that too
it's not just about elements
ill prob do sena, hle, fdd or something cope
I meant not many that are fire that can support for WoD 
you can go 2 elements to cope
that's fine
diabolic kevin however has an interesting mechanic
omg I just realised that lds resurgency can be possible next patch
Lol
he can apply dmg reduction on himself for one element at some points in the fight
||Lamp is in BP I believe next patch||
perfect, can finally get her weapon
like what am i supposed to do with this pile of shit

it could be worse
pile of what now? that's good
the only bad unit here is sena
i could have gotten paws and her weapon but my stupid ass pulled on the begginner banner
at least you have a solid breach support and a potential impair support for later physical valks
fdd and fws dont have weapon
ts absolutely good ❤️
i am getting fdd tho so thats okay
i also fell for the beginner banner trap
Not the only one
doesnt seem like it, the first 2 ex abyss are kicking my ass
didn't get thelema nor lantern because of that
i lost 150 trophies last abyss
How do you think I have my HoRb 
only got thelema later out of sheer luck
Skipped out on RS due to this
i skipped RS because Sparkle
i have ||ritas|| bis team right?
Sena and HLE 
sure can work
i have no idea how to play thelema so i dont touch her
and ||imaginary|| has a lot of enemies that you will need someone for
IMG a pain
then ask us
i know the tricks
Flower wasn't fun with PAWS dps and I barely survived it 
the others probably also do
but what if i REALLY REALLY want finality kiana

she isn't even on there anymore
it's sena and jds now
isnt it lamp now
idk but shes still here with me but i cant send image
no lamp is returnee
Yeah part 1 starter banners are gone
rightt
i doubt it
!faq starter
Don't waste crystals, Captain! 
Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of why Starter Supply is not recommended [here](#👶beginner-help message).
Short answer:
- Brand new Valkyries to be prioritised over old ones (see [!faq backpull](#👶beginner-help message)).
- The discounted 10x does not make it good. Only do the 1 single pull that gets refunded anyway.
- In most cases, you will not have the infrastructure to make a good team with either of these Valkyries.
- Your crystals are better spent on new Valkyries: the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.
- This banner is only recommended for people willing to reroll accounts until they get a Valkyrie in the first 10x. Ask us what to do if you are interested in rerolling, it is very dependant on the patch contents.
i want hofi dlc so bad but my account is not build for it
I don't know which patch they ended
8.1 or 8.0
yeah not worth it
oohhh i thought you meant the dorm trap one
nah
im so stupid 😔
You don't even spend crystals on that
i also want vita because i like the voiceline when she summons her robot before battle
next ver ||how much bchip is needed for vita's upcoming skin||
dorm is like any other standard banner in gacha games, you shouldn't waste crystals on it
outdated retirement home
damn guess i will keep pulling for ely's bow then
is lunar vow the char still worth investing in?
depends on the amount of investment
and whether you have her team ready
can i grind 12 pulls (with monthly) in the next 6 days
Hi, Captain! 
Ai-chan recommends this calculator: https://honkaihub.com/calculator
should i 65 sena or horb weapon
||sorry i dont actually know if its fine to talk about CN content here cause im new here so ill spoiler this just incase! but im asking cause she'll be free next patch and I think I can only pick up at most her wep from the BP shop and was wondering if that'll be worth it||
you can if its spoiler tagged yes
asking with spoilering is fine here
i havent gotten through to the 2nd phase because sen keeps dying
noted on the spoiler tag, thankess
||btw no, do not pick up lv's weapon in the bp. although she will be given for free she has no use cases at the moment||
inb4 wife returns banner
||and to be honest with you, whenever they give use free units it usually means they either have plans for them and makes sure its accessible to all players (such as with hohe/hos dkeys) or because she wont be obtainable for a really long time||
okie then should i just wait for tthe next bp cycle for thelema's wep instead? i have her full set from using the freebie resources to craft it and i got her from the spenders shop
should i use sena/vbs/fws, sena/vbs/horb, or sena/vbs/hle
if you see a need for it then you can consider it, either way the weapon will be available for another 2 patches
but idk if she can fit into the teams i current have which are just hle, sparkle and then ||hohe and hofi with thier upcoming dlc banners||
look into your valk skills and see what heals the team. there is even a "+" tag you can press while viewing a valk to show every skill with healing
Just looking into thelema's astral ring attributes shows you which rings she can support. That's the star-like symbols when viewing her in the valk menu
the big symbol is her main ring or "specialization" which she can always support, the smaller symbols are her support rings or "attributes"
if you want to know who can support her, look for valks with the "Harmonized Shadow Star" tag
that's the Wheel of Destiny support tag
here's what I said with visuals. also note that the filters correctly align the specialisation with their respected attribute
only rite of oblivion with it's omniscient star is special, being able to support every ring on it's own but always weaker than the correct attributes
that's why VBm is always your slot filler if you have nothing else
im giving up on sena
eu abyss opened, i can try to help
How to use Coralie FDD and HLE together? @ancient needle
who's the leader
if its fdd then it doesnt really work
since hle isnt roo
well you just do hle's dps rotation then fdd qte weapon active and ult
if you dont know hle's dps rotation then i recommend checking out the tutorial ingame
Still they can't clear RL I guess..have to try next week
because hle is under -50% dmg
she's a ranged unit and this abyss heavily favors meele units
Oh god
show me what valks you have
I assume it's not exalted RL ?
No.. I'm lvl 77
I got demoted last time to agony
what's the weather in masters, this sounds like a rotation issue tbh
This time I cleared it
yeah its probably a rotation issue
Well ai just started the game a few weeks ago
qmanifold doesnt have debuffs if im not wrong
It was solo HLE at that time
I got Coralie and her weapon Yesterday
ok so it was a team issue
And is working on them to make it maxed
if you know how to use hle already then all you gotta do on fdd is literally just qte weapon active and ult
So can HLE AND Fdd maintain me exalted RL?
need a 3rd teammate
Or is agony 3 is my destiny?
just those 2 alone is not enough
you arent even retaining qmanifold rl boi
spoiler that and ||she doesnt support goi||
|| hle can support her so that's something, and she's her bis too||
I can now I have fdd as well
Yeah she as the main dps
And HLE FDD Support
then use them
I am
.
owhhh thank you, had no idea about that
may i ask what your rotation looks like then ? because your team does sound like you should be able to clear tbh, recording would be perfect if you can but describing is also fine
nirv results: horb lp vbs 365, vbs was able to easily clear transition which means as long as you have damage this boss is clearable especially in a3
I recently cleared Agony
I will come back here for help if I get struck at RL
best i got in redlotus is 504 with this
i just bruteforced his hats, turns out they aren't indestructible
any vbs run lacked damage in p2
leading to severe point loss
can't test her
oh right ur new
but i guess she can work
no i skipped
yeah
ohh
I remember the recommendation back then being skip on her as well and don't have her for the same reason.
the patch after her was glb ani and it turned out to be just too important
vita and hofi dk
basically she was considered a bait
she fell under that stereotype due to her bad timing
not necessarily for being quantum
Quantum was at least part of the issue the fact that next patch was extremely good didn't help her at all though.
Her supporting capabilities were genuinely lacking tbf
Sparkle is the one that actually fell under the stereotype
any tips on the team for this abyss? this is all the part2 valks i have
or the team i got selected is the best one i can get with what i have
I just got elysian. Is she good to combine with fws and vbm??
She would prefer another Symbiosis support instead of VBm but she can work as a cope option.
It's between Sena DPS and HoRb DPS in your case, and both of them should use FWS HLE supps in your case
couldnt they also try to cook something with fws pretty sure a lot of her attacks are meele
fws + sparkle + jds/ps ig
I feel like she'll be worse
Cuz with that logic Sparkle is eligible too 
horb just won't benefit from the weather buff so idt she'll be better than fws
sena might ngl
Why do you think HoRb won't benefit
summon damage
Ah, you meant that way
I think that Sena is best here, but I'm not 100% sure
I can't prove it yet
i could've sworn horb had a similair skill to fdd and ps maybe i'm just loosing it
cuz i can't find it
nvm i'm just blind though this does not mention it's neither meele or ranged
what is the best love elf team
what is the best team i could do ? all of them have stigs but no weapon (except coralie)
FDD + 2nd support depending on what you're fighting (for example, it's FWS vs SD enemies and PS if you need Bleed/hitcount)
- It's best if you don't pull valks without weaps in the future, they're mandatory here

- It depends a lot on what you're fighting, but the most proper one would be Sena Helia/Lantern Badum
should i get the box or einstein
you should be able to get both by completing the quests though prioritise the box
and what should i get from the box
All the options have the same value + 10 ATK and ||they are all available from reserve works from next patch onwards so there is no meaningful difference in value.||
If global servers are gone, which server is my game progress reallocated to?
no idea because the global servers won't close any time soon
That depends on how Hoyo wants to do the transfer and as there has been no info from Hoyo that they want to close Global so we have no idea on how they would do it.
what character should i get in the war treasury
See the pins. Broadly you want someone in the Elysian realm and then stress tests are a nice bonus
None of them are used for meta
so is there any way to stop bronya's mech taking up half of the textboxes
any idea what thehell i can use for ts
Is it worth pulling fdd
Depends on what you alr have
Why tf are they suggesting LV though 😭
thats what im wondering too🥹 alsoi can send my valk list again
though im pretty sure i might be cooked but we'll see..
Yeah, do that
Also mention if any of the notable valks there are missing gear
Why not
||She won't be able to support 8.6 and her value beyond that is unknown because she doesn't have a "???" AR tag||
- you probably won't be able to afford her rn anyway
ignore jk and mpe
everyone except lantern and ps are 4/4 maxxed, lanterns running foundry weapon and ps is running pandoras box
hohe dkey aswl
all ofm y other valks r pt 1 w/o dkey so yeah
Use Sena Vita HLE
alr ty, do you have a general rot for them?
Is there a way for me to get Mobius fast
Rush story to level up 81 and get lots of AL
I think some of the current events are also 1 time sources
Lots of what?
war treasury currency
She’s in the war treasury so you need the currency to buy her there
AL is specifically Ancient Legacy
Oh yeah I noticed that. 640 of those things is a lot though, I barely have around 100 of those
Yeah most of the income is level gated
High level players can get way more of it
Hence rushing story to level up if you’re in a hurry
Ily Mobius but I really don't wanna rush the story 😭 guess I'll get her eventually
Yeah I'm already like level 54 just by logging in everyday so it shouldn't take long
Also I heard something happens at lvl 80 something to do with a ceiling. What is it?
You can either choose to stay at level 80, with easier challenges, or break through the ceiling to level 81+ and get more rewards but harder challenges
It’s almost always worth it to break through
So the equivalent of ascension quest from hoyo games
You can ask for more specifics if you want to be sure but 9/10, 99/100 you’ll get more rewards for breaking through
Sorta yeah. Not exactly the same but
Alright I'll take it nice and easy for now. I want to enjoy the game's lore
I'm too late by now so all I can do is play for the story and collect characters I like
well thats not true
Yeah love elf is right. I started 6 months ago and I’m already competing in the second highest tier and have been for a few months now
mind to explain the sena fws hle rotation pls
never used them together
Coulda been bouncing the highest tier but I made some bad decisions on purpose
this was the best i could do with that team
most players havent played yet so will get surpassed 100%
Yeah you’re mostly hoping enough of them either don’t have paws or don’t know how to play
Not impossible, I mean, it’s A2
But rough
FWS applies her buffs with either QTE, enhanced WA (don't do that one, too slow) or CA, and she procs Stellar Drain with enhanced WA (again, don't do that) or CA
HLE applies buffs with either QTE (I would turn it off though) or WA and procs Stellar Drain with ult
So the non-SO rot would be Badum CA -> HLE WA + ult -> Sena DPS rot -> HLE WA -> Badum QTE -> Sena -> repeat
The SO rot would just be placing the anchor on Sena -> FWS reso procs -> HLE reso procs -> Sena
The order of FWS and HLE doesn't matter, but keep in mind that the amount of reso procs is limited to 9
The non-SO rot will be pretty awkward cuz of CD issues
so i just started playing chapter nine,, when do we go back tousing our own characters. i hate Theresa
Never
There are some pure combat stages that allow you to use your own chars, but the story itself doesn't
That's if talking Part 1
In Part 2 you can use your own chars in OW chapters except boss fights
any vids of paws fdd badum vs sampo?
did u try youtube
yea but for some reason my dmg just doesnt compare
record ur run
probably you're messing up ur rot, thats the usual reason
but hard to say without seeing it
what can i do with melee shill... 
cry. You could try PS FDD VBM, since PS is at least not ranged and has TC, but I would go in expecting to suffer
That's indeed what im doing trying to do this abyss rn
ty anyway!
np
may your bracket have a bunch of people with no paws who dont know how to play so you retain
my brackets have been the opposite for the past few weeks unfortunately, hope that changes soon, this beginner ahh acc is struggling 
yeah its rough trying to brute force abyss when you dont have the right team
On another note, how do people decide wether or not they pull for the debut battlesuit aside from havign enough xtals?? and how much was it again?? (average amount of xtals needed or for guaranteed)
Ideally you want to pull all of them. However, sometimes you have to skip, and there's no one thing that decides it. Some things to consider are
- Is there another patch coming up soon that's probably better, like CNY or Anni?
- Do you have a cope option that can maybe retain on the bosses (For instance, for ||rita||, do you have Hoo+Hofi Dkey?)
- Do you have the right teammates for the battlesuit? If not, they might be lower priority because you won't retain on their shill anyway
- How common is their niche? For instance, quantum weathers are fairly rare, so quantum battlesuits are sometimes considered less valuable
- How good are they? This is hard to say, since they're often going to be best on their shill, but for most battlesuits there's some weather or bosses that multiple people qualify for
like img weather bosses could be either dudu or trio, say
and if they are usually better than others on those (and therefore have more bosses) they're a better pull than someone who needs specific shill to be good. Also in consideration here is how good they are at support, think how fast their buff cycle is / how many ring tags / if they offer breach
Average case is about 30k crystals, worst case scenario is about 40.5k
to get a battlesuit and weapon
No Para for transition?
Look at their battlesuits ryebread and tell me they have an option for para
VBs
yeah sure FDD VBS VBM, definitely a good option for this abyss 💀

okiii tysm 
Is this good😥
what abyss rank and what team?
Paws fdd and hle and agony 2
you can probably do better since a2 is paper but it's also a2 so probably it's fine
since if they knew how to play they wouldnt be in a2
Shady I kinda know how to play
Anyways
How to do this
unlock the shicksal HQ map
this coming monday
instead of whatever you are doing rn
unknown, it just came over to this one this patch
Should I pull for ||Rita|| or skip and save
Like do I have any good supports for her
||Rita seems like a solid pick, you have a team for her, multiple options if thelema has wep.|| What does your crystal count look like?
I’m I was just asking bc I only have 1k gems my funds were really drain from getting hle and fdd so realistically I won’t get her only if I get her in the free 10/ half off
Oh yeah in that case I would save. You can toss a few pulls at her banner in case u get her early enough to guarentee weapon
but if u cant afford her you cant afford her
(standard supply)
I’m sorry not trying to flex, just wanted to understand the system cause I thought the rules said it wouldn’t give you someone you alr have? Or does that only happen to the first S rank rolled, and any after that is just pure chance?
Not that I’m complaining about hohe! ||esp with her dlc banner rerunning||
basically in the top left of the supply theres a % that the s rank you get will be someone you dont own and if you get a dupe it increases for the next one
do you know what number it had before you did this 10 pull? not that its super important to say that now but it can help the explanation
hii ! are there any codes that i can redeem? i'm a new player
check the 8.5 redeem codes in pins if you didnt use them yet
if you also need invite codes take one based on ur server from #invite-links-here
theres a 999 dice right
So I'm a returning player to HOI3. Swear I thought I didn't get too far before. But coming back I'm all the way into chapter 11 and got 100% in everything else subsequently. Don't remember jack about what's going on.
What's the uh recommended way to get a recap. Just view cutscenes?
Should mention I mean for part 1 not part 2
guys what is time fracture?
i may had use it countless time but by name i got no idea xd
thought it was like the evation skill thingy you go slow mode but idk if i either did it wrong or it is nto
you can reply the chapter but because that consumes stamina i would watch a walkthrough instead so you can make use of the stamina elsewhere
some p1 chapters have a mini recap but that's for the later chapters
you could also consider a new account if you arent attached
and then you could replay it and get starter bonuses in one
basically it slows down enemies (and certain timers), you know you did it if you see a purple like effect spreading across the screen
normally you trigger it if you evade timely (as the enemy is attacking you) but there's various characters and gear that can automatically trigger it if you do certain criterias
Nah because I remember the reason I quit was because I got stuck on Wendy. Could not get past her. Came back. Somehow I'm past her. WOn't question it lol
(Has been a while so maybe I'm misremembering and I did end up beating her. But swear I remember it being ridiculously difficult and why I stopped playing)
no
i sat there for a few minutes there is indeed not a 999
can you maybe give me some example of them?
Are you sure.... I'm still dicing right now
mainly so i can use this to get those damn exiting 5 gems XD
Can I open this so I can do the FR trial or HoT trial?
first one is evading at the right time
the second one is automatic because the character's skill says she will trigger it if she uses her ult
you don't need any for stress test but otherwise non of these are useful so i guess you can get any
Should I get the FR one? Since I can use this box for 7 Thunders of Retribution for HoT?
as i said you need non of these for stress text, stress test is doable with level 35 forgable or a leveled low tier weapon whichever you pick i wont level but get for collection (and dkeys for attack)
Great. Now its weapon time
do you have any tips where to grind crystals 🤕
Ah hey you're exactly where I'm at lol. I'm watching some recap videos because I can't remember what was going on
Edit: Also I'm just focusing on the story and nothing else. Once I get into part 2 maybe I'll start thinking about stuff like pulling units or doing events or whatever. I'm too lost in the sauce right now
wat weapon should i go for
i have ego elysia and pardofelis
and jade knight im close to unlocking her but idk
purana
hi sorry for the late! no I wasnt keeping track of how much I had been pulling cause it was anytime i hit 10 cards i pull on it. so basically hohe was just by pure chance then?
u can keep the box
ideally kiaelf but u can keep the box until u need it
Guys I need help
How do I invest in her
I have her stigmata all three but do I need to get her weapon
Im only at chapter 10
5 days, you will get her weapon trust
I have her other form called herrscher of human
Do i use the cat girl as a support
Okayy
Anyways do I need to upgrade these
im not sure who between roza and ely you got first from the same dorm pull but if you had a high chance to an s rank u dont own then you probably used it on roza then was lucky to get another s rank so you had a lower chance for an s rank u dont own so u got hoh
or maybe you had a low chance for an s rank u dont own but was lucky to get a new one anyways
i actually wont sweat it honestly, the important thing is that you get a new unit for dorm levels and someone youll use in stress test and ER later one while also being lucky to get hoh of all people
And like weapons are so necessary they you shouldn’t pull for a character if you can’t get there weapons
So I need this for her
Yes
Okay
shell be ur cope support so yes use pardo
But you have the beginning stuff so I believe in you
I dont
I dont have the starter manual
upgrade the support stuff
Its glitched
????
When I login I didn't get the starter manual
Restart your game then
u had it before or did u never see it when you started the game?
Idk because that’s a LOT of gems being missed
No other accounts nothing
i mean did u see it when you started the account or no
you never used that account ever before right?
yeah you got a glitch
Yea
at least report it
Maybe contact support
tbh youll be missing out on good stuff without it
In game
Yea I saw the rewards in youtube
Right that’s a let of crystals
Im sad about it
I wanted the purple girl in the beginner banner
The one with the white and purple and pink
You going to have to be on your grind to get her weapon
Yea
huh can you show a picture?
although beginner supply is a scam btw
Herrscher of something
Wait so you dont have the beginner banner in you gacha
That’s weird
The one below the supply of the star ops banner
Pic pls
Okay
Its with herrscher of finality and Uhhh herrscher of truth
And the other things
that was long ago, shes no longer in beginner supply
shes in a shop called reserve works, takes forever to grind so not worth it unless you dont care and want her anyways
shes in dorm but u cant gurantee her
YEA DORM SUPPLY
I called it the beginner supply banner
I didn't know there was a real beginner banner
oh just called it dorm supply
some ppl say standard supply but dorm is most used
lol
Ohhh okay
or permanent supply or wtv
you have to know that there is a different supply called beginner supply so yeah
You don’t have the beginner or the guide on a brand new account
Look i dont have the starter manual. So yea just to clarify
Yes
This is my first account I ever made
ngl if you barely did anything maybe do an alt
because im not sure if CS can help you
Ill just deal with it and keep grinding
I dont want to restart again and grind for the new character cause I got it in a single ten free pull
Did you have to do the starting mission where you fight Honkai beast on top of the ship as Kiana
i mean u can still try rerolling but up to u
Yea, I did do that but, when it was done and all i never got the starting manual
I asked the other low level in the general chat they got it
But I didnt
Like in game
ill admit some ppl in here reported the case of them not getting it but idk if theres a fix
Well it for sure isn't fix cause I didn't got it
But oh well
I still get the free 1200 gems
And other free pulls
I’d say if you got her in the free ten and really I think you should reroll (that is when you make a new accounts and do the first ten then if you get it you keep that account and if don’t make another) because then you can get the weapon super easy cause you have the starter guide and a lot more gems but up to you
After I got herrscher of human
Its fine im at 40 pulls
To get the weapon
I can grind all the stories and events to get the weapon
Ok best of luck
Mhm thank you
So should i upgrade them
Damage vs typeless one is nice
SP gain and healing are whatever
If you have enough ASMs tho by all means get em all
Do I level her up
Yeah. Lower priority than gacha battlesuits or valkyrie blastmetal
but like, priority 3 or 4
how to get attempts in expedition...
daily reset
After all this time I'm only just now realizing the Wendy I got stuck on back then that made me quit in chapter 11. Was not necessary for the story. 
I was wrong it is necessary im cooked
Apart for Sena, both were free pull
ohh okay thanks! i thought i have to wait for the reset lol
Yep. Still as frustrating as I remember. Supposedly the shield color is how you know to switch but she will just randomly stop taking damage.
hi guys i just started playing, should i pull for dorm supply or elysia hi elf
thanks ❤️ even with that rot the best results i had was with this team , tho i think i need at least 700 to secure the second place since its still 1d left
Only spend your crystals on new battlesuit and weapon supply
Dorm only pull with dorm ticket
alrighty
idk if sena deal melee or not
she does
or paralyze
Sorry, I completely forgot that the transition wants Paralyze xdd
I'd replace Thele with VBs (only if she's properly geared) and run that
VBs can apply Para with her regular WA (when her bar is not full) -> BA
(the hats are tankier than I remembered)
Though in A3 raw damage might be better 
Hard to tell without trying it out, and I'm not in A3 xdd
Running VBs makes the rot a lot easier though (no CD issues)
thanks ❤️
Do I buy the prisms from here or smth else is more valuable
save it
stamps are more valuable
prism can be saved until u re in a sudden need
u dont have a lot of currency anw
Hm
Do we know what next battlepass valk is gonna be
Their stamps are added in here right?
Ye used on prism/honkai shard while building ely
the stamp will be swap randomly every few patches
before sena it was hohe which is not from bp paid shop
!faq er signets
||mother of dragon||
nah u got dracolie instead
Why can’t she come out later
lets hope cn whales approve enough
||dreamseeker|| but in black clothes
ur free aop
What
So there a male version?
no, ||vita delete male account after chapter 3||
What lol
"accidentally"
So people who had the male one it turned into a female
does pity carry over
on main banner yes
battlesuit/equipment supply are the main banners btw*
dorm also carries pity but you shouldnt spend crystals on it
game needs weap, getting valk without weap is same as not getting valk in most cases
dont pull without enough to guarantee weap
Aop banner also carry pity over to the next aop
take in a player as a “cadet” and have them complete cadet missions for that currency
how to:
friends—> sensei
Oh
guys is mobius still good
no
🐍
Is it worthy to return to the game right now? Is there a worty events going on?
anytime is a good time
but there is a spending event, you have a lil bit of time but you might catch up
how do i complete this? it takes me to apho but im still in part 1 so i dont wanna do it
who shld I build / pull for
You need to clear commissions in one of the four open world areas. You should be able to go to the other ones by pressing the globe icon. APHO was also released concurrently with Part 1 and doesn't spoil what happens in part 1.
it spoils some things
but yeah it can be any open world, doesnt have to be APHO 1 iirc
Do you have Hi Love Elf's weapon? If not that is highest priority.
Your second priority is to ensure that you can pull for valk + weapon next patch. For build priority HLE > FWS > MPS > VBm
If you alr got HLE's weap you just save until the next patch
I do
I have both
You probably don't have a lot of Prisms rn, I wouldn't go beyond lvl 45 on any of the valks's stigs (keep VBm's stigs at lvl 35)
If you do have a lot lemme know
Unless they're alr maxed ofc
uhh I have 3
anyone have any tips for beating stage 2 of Kallen Fantasy challenge? I always get onto the third part of the stage but the timer runs out before i can win
oke ty!!
Shift out SI for RC and HoV for TA would be my basic plan
who's TA?
Not exactly a beginner but haven't played in a while
Are any of the current/upcoming banner characters good teammates for Herrsercher of the Void
What are you trying to do with HoV?
Idk
I just like her
RS does have some ability to support part 1 physical but of course HoV is still basically unplayable in Abyss
For that mission I would do HoHe, HoV, RC. HoV can work as you just want three independent units.
Are there any side which you particularly struggle with because when I tried it everything just died in one hit.
the joyo/jun ninja on the left side were either taking loads of time or killing me
nvm i did it by killing them with ellie ult
guys what weapon could I give to starry impression if I dont have hearts color?
Some cross with high attack that you already have, she’s not worth investing much in
Maybe whichever of the Binding dkeys you plan to level up to 50 for the lightning gene limit
Do I have to do all this missions for the breakthrough?
u are not forced to do them but the reward is the exp which help u reach breaking lvl faster
how can I easily get weapon resonance?
You craft bounty weapons and then break them down into reso
Do I need to level up the bounty weapons before converting them for weapon resonance?
Typically takes a bunch of ether fuel, 190 G1 materials from invitation to mirage, and 150 AE imaginions
But some of them take say Ranger creds instead
No. Every bounty weapons should be worth 1000 weapon reso
The cheapest bounty weapons should is iirc 3rd sacred relic but it’ll only save you like 140k coins or something
You could pick different ones for collection purposes
Oh
I thought you had to do them
Kinda like a prerequisite
Thx for letting me know
It is typically more efficient to use tickets on the second stage of a mirage and then farm level 6 normally for ether fuel than the other way around
oki
ill probably go for ones that use AE since I have alot of those
oh really? I only really played on 6th stages
How impactful is not doing mirage stages for relatively new players (lvl 80 😭)
I'm just not in the mood most of the time I notice it exists
Well you need to farm the 2nd stage for the G1s
And it’s a lot of runs to get 190 without mirage
You can just use vacation tickets to auto do it
Mostly they’re used for obtaining dkeys (Pledge of Sakura and oath of Judah) and then for crafting p2 stigmas you don’t roll (600 ether fuel per)
If you’re lucky you never need to farm it again after you craft the dkeys, if you’re unlucky you might need to go back, and there’s other niche craftables you might benefit from (but might decide aren’t worth the effort)
I haven't even done the stages to auto it 😭
Should do ig
More battlepass exp at worst
I see
I am missing those dkeys
Should craft them
Free bonus afterall as far as I am aware
Yeah. +10 attack and lightning gene limit
u only have 10 mirage entries per week
using tickets/coupons or not, after 10 times u're done for the week
how important is chenxue to hle?
Useful in Nirvana but you shouldn’t need her in Rl to retain
Would need SS too
S Chenchen is a dreamseeker sidegrade, scores worse on some bosses
Like Hellmaru
S chenxue give (HLE and all Goi's teams) bonus start ARI, letting u SO (burst mode) sooner. SS chenxue give bonus ARI regen, letting u SO again sooner
and bcs part 2 gameplay is around "SO = big dmg" it will affect ur competitive potential
that's the mutual advantage of gacha Aop. the dmg buff from aop isnt as important as the ability to let ur team SO sooner
What kinda team should I use for abyss? Everyone is using paws but I don’t got her 🥀🥀
You’re kinda cooked. FDD VBM VBS is your best bet prolly?
That way you have para for transition at least
Could also try HLE FDD VBM but I wouldn’t expect much from it either
Might be time to get 1800 and sleep
chat may i ask for help
Yes
Don’t ask to ask, just let us know what we can help with
so i just went over pings and saw that its better to restart than play on a returnee account
Depends on what the returnee account has but often times yeah
the problem is that I got the new ely suit (i hope they're called suits) in the free 10 pull
i have no other s ranks except for a theresa from standard and HoV
Do you have any other part 2 battlesuits? What is your crystal count and dorm levels? What story progress are you at?
Also, do you have any meta goals or are you just trying to collect characters?
i have 38 crystals a level 9 dorm
I would guess that it’s better for you to restart but not enormously better unless you’re willing to reroll; other decisions depend on the answers to other questions
Hmm. So basically nothing on this account other than HLE but you have HLE
vbs is the worst p2 char tbh
Yeah if you’re willing to reroll it’s better to restart, if you aren’t willing to reroll it’s pretty close
She’s free this patch yeah any account would have her
If you want to stick with this, your goal is to grind out story to try to get HLE weapon before banner goes away
And get Valkyrie blastmetal from part 2 story
And then you have a cope team and can save for next patch
is that not vbs
forgive my awful terminology
If you keep this account your team for the next 5 weeks will be Hi Love Elf, Valkyrie Blastmetal, Reverist Calico; you want to try to get HLE weapon (top priority, you don’t have much time) while slowly ranking up Valkyrie Blastmetal to SSS and Reverist Calico to S in the asterite shop
how do i check my p1 story progress
Attack->story. You probably won’t be very far
The less far the better because it means you have more 1 time crystals left
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