#👶beginner-help

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shell basin
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Hi

proper quiver
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What team should I do for this abyss

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
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is it lightnign or para weather

proper quiver
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Melee

abstract sequoia
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it's melee, but sampo has a transition that can end early with para trauma

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the hat thing

sweet flax
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ye

shell basin
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It’s gonna be painful anyway

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Everyone with paws will outscore you a ton

abstract sequoia
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important to note: only WA with bar not full applies the paralyze bomb

shell basin
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The cope para guns aren’t remotely enough for sampo transition right? So you can’t put them on Badum and replace VBS

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Even if you have them

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Oh yeah and Badum would be your only better dps anyway, nevermind

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No point

abstract sequoia
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you mean fenghuang pinions?

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6(8) vs 18 trauma

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idt it's enough

shell basin
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I think I was thinking Eden’s but idt they’d be enough either

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And it wouldn’t get you that much anyway since you’d still be using Sena dps

sweet flax
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not enough

abstract sequoia
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their account is too new to prioritize getting that

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even if it works

sweet flax
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vbs seems to be the only shout tbh, I was also thinking of running a team with vbs in it to cope

shell basin
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Yeah true on both counts

sweet flax
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only issue is you can apply para trauma every 9 seconds

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I always slept on sampo so I dont know if that's enough or not

shell basin
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Tbh I think the play is to just hope not enough players have paws

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And everyone else without paws skill issues

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If 10 people have paws it’s hopeless even if they can’t play

abstract sequoia
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i'm still in redlotus this cycle

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
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i can try how far I'm getting with it

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@proper quiver you don't have vbs weapon right?

abstract sequoia
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okay good

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i mean not good

sweet flax
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you dont loose much from having it or not

abstract sequoia
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but i can use the second best thing

sweet flax
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oh wait is he running dsa dps?

abstract sequoia
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yes

sweet flax
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gg

abstract sequoia
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that was the plan

proper quiver
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Gulp

abstract sequoia
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i have ta-da max with syn 3

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so i guess i can tell you how far i can get with that

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wait no

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okay forget it, i forgot i don't have sena

sweet flax
proper quiver
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The Side nodes are taking forever

abstract sequoia
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who are you using

sweet flax
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id test it on my side but.... I have a slight weapon issue regarding sena

abstract sequoia
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the suggested team?

proper quiver
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Sena horb vbs

abstract sequoia
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hm okay

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can you try horb/sena/fws?

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should perform better

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or hle instead of sena

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since she has more resonance triggers

proper quiver
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Ok I’ll try while doing the nodes

kind cliff
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what should you use balls on?

sweet flax
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assuming you mean bp balls, on the dkeys

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!faq balls

small willowBOT
# sweet flax !faq balls
Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain! AichanBlink

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

  • Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
  • Knight BP: 18 per patch
  • Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

lilac reef
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Which story stages should I do? I dont have the time to wait 4hrs for sim battle BronyaSad2

lilac reef
sweet flax
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or regular expiditions if you havent finished any for the one time crystals

lilac reef
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I may as well do these for SSS

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it gives xtals LanternLollipop

fallen shale
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the thing is recommending PAWS > FWS > PS, is there another hit count boss in this abyss?

sweet flax
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paws fdd fws/ps should be the higher scoring team atm

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its just that in 8.3 there was no fdd

fallen shale
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oh ok

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should I use fws or ps then

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for the third slot

sweet flax
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no idea what the difference between them is

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though ps has generally been more used with paws

low ridge
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Wait I did it I’m so smart

lunar ridge
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...

charred burrow
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This is the pity i was talking about

sweet flax
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any context for what pity you were talking about

lunar ridge
charred burrow
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This guy is a beginner, low on pity and need a otc guide

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Cant send picture in general chat HimekoLMAO

lunar ridge
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I just need gems 😔

charred burrow
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Yeah thats the guaranteed thing u need to notice

sweet flax
small willowBOT
lunar ridge
sweet flax
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well depends what you are doing

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I cant magically tell how fast or slow you are and what you are gonna do

lunar ridge
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I mean I want to read all of the story but I could just start burning every chapter

charred burrow
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U can replay part 1 story

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They are divided into stages, not a one time open world

lunar ridge
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So just start running through every chapter?

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Then go back?

sweet flax
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you can also find summaries of the chapters online if you dont wanna read back through it

charred burrow
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Yes, press skip for fastest time
If you want the crystal immediately

sweet flax
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up to you honestly

lunar ridge
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Okay okay!

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Thank you! I guess I can always come back to it

unreal edge
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Hi! I started reading Part 2 story beyond Chapter 3 only a couple days ago. Are there any valuable time-limited rewards in the last chapter? Do I need to speedrun all the story and how long could it take? (First 3 chapters were not too time-consuming, are the next ones much larger?)

sweet flax
charred burrow
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There is some in the anni event

sweet flax
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oh ye those ones, but I meant like we had in the previous chapters, limited time crystal rewards

unreal edge
charred burrow
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But this chapter in specific dont

unreal edge
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And Starry shop currency, you mean this one?

sweet flax
primal slate
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what should i buy spending shop? just unlocked exalted a few days ago in this acc

sweet flax
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what boba is mentioning is the anniversary shop which has a couple of notable items (mainly the level up coupon and dkey box)

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one of the missions requires you to complete the newest story chapter

charred burrow
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I dont remember how many crystal correctly but it is the star thing

unreal edge
primal slate
serene crystal
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Have you read the pin about the spending event?

unreal edge
unreal edge
serene crystal
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That time limit was a long time ago

sweet flax
charred burrow
primal slate
ancient needle
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Yeah, free VBm stigs and VBs weap are gone for a very long while alr

sweet flax
unreal edge
sweet flax
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keep in mind this is a help channel more targetted towards beginners, what may seem obvious for others and a joke for you can be taken seriously by those who are unaware

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and you can of course lose privileges to type here if this is a re-occurring thing so for your sake do try to be cautious

abstract sequoia
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that and the sarcasm isn't always as obvious depending on the person

unreal edge
primal slate
sweet flax
abstract sequoia
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basically, every fire and lightning p2 valk is better off with kiaelf 3*+, as long as it's redlotus

sweet flax
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it situational, but its always good to have ready when needed

charred burrow
unreal edge
abstract sequoia
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the only exception imo would be LoA cycles

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badum had cycles where ds performed better

sweet flax
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then again, loa with no teri is pain

abstract sequoia
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yeah what can you do though

sweet flax
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not that she is recommended to pull for

abstract sequoia
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that and backpulling might not be worth either way

charred burrow
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same principal: ELFs/astral ops dont matter when RL or lower

abstract sequoia
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even if you want the nirvana push

abstract sequoia
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for aops that is

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elfs are free

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and they can give you an situational edge like we already stated

primal slate
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ig im gonna stack them up

abstract sequoia
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sure, maybe we get another elf box

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then you can get 3* immediately

unreal edge
serene crystal
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The most recent ones have all had a box at least.

abstract sequoia
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only once so far

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i meant a full elf unlock

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not just fragments

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the fragments usually appear in major spending events

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like this one

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the full elf box came as an extra event with specific missions to complete. it was mostly just "play event up to this part" and "finish story chapter mission x"

unreal edge
abstract sequoia
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!faq bigspending

small willowBOT
abstract sequoia
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here's the usual stuff in both types of events

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last mini spending was last patch

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but they don't always come back to back

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we usually know when they arrive through cn release schedule

unreal edge
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Yeah, I like this 2-week+ window to be always prepared. Pretty nice thing

abstract sequoia
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saved many from hasty decisions

unreal edge
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As I remember spending evets were almost every patch

abstract sequoia
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eh, there were many patches since without them

unreal edge
sweet flax
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this patch for example being cn anni TeriDerp

abstract sequoia
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so cny is next

sweet flax
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ye its the best time for hoyo to make money, release op unit, reset top ups and put a spending event for max gains

abstract sequoia
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maybe MasterCard deal while they're at it

sweet flax
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8.1 being an example Pockek

sweet flax
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since they give mastercards there

abstract sequoia
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I've just had no time to handle it due to exams

unreal edge
abstract sequoia
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you win some, you lose some

lyric anvil
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Hard pity is pretty common

abstract sequoia
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both can go as hard as hard pity or soft as one pull payout

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
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horb dk came in one 10 pulls, but when i pulled fdd and chenxue the banners showed no mercy

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hle was average pity

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what's important is that you're prepared for the worst case

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both crystals and mentally

lyric anvil
abstract sequoia
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ah man

lyric anvil
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So half of that

abstract sequoia
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i remember tradey cursing me for getting dk so early LanternHeavyThoughts

sweet flax
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wait ram

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if tradey cursed you

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and you went late

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but ches cursed me

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and I got it fairly early (like 40ish pulls)

abstract sequoia
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i mean he cursed me after my pulls were over

sweet flax
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I think I cracked the code

abstract sequoia
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i pulled horb last

lyric anvil
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I know I hard pitied the elf and I would guess I probably did the same with her weapon or got it before hard pity

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
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what blessing bro I was hard pitying every banner before it, you cant curse something beyond cursed

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just negative gains

lyric anvil
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I was in a call with my sister when I did my pulls TeriRip

sweet flax
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2 negatives makes a positive y'know?

abstract sequoia
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anyone he blessed got bad pulls

sweet flax
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that's why you need to have bad pulls before blessed by ches

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im telling you I cracked the code

abstract sequoia
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oh that's what you meant

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i see

sweet flax
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mhmm

lyric anvil
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Lol

sweet flax
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so next patch I tell ches to curse me again

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I get valk and weapon in 10 pulls

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since my luck is infamous

abstract sequoia
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btw, any ideas what I could use that comes close to sena lead?

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i want to help that pawsless sea guy

lyric anvil
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Last patch was much better to me LanternHeavyThoughts

sweet flax
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lp is type countered right?

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teri sucks

lyric anvil
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VBs also

sweet flax
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vbs sucks as a dps not worth mentioning

proper quiver
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Make me a sensei rn

abstract sequoia
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you need vbs in supports for trauma

sweet flax
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is that a side stage?

proper quiver
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No 😖

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
proper quiver
abstract sequoia
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details

sweet flax
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what did you use

abstract sequoia
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did you clear transition

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for example

proper quiver
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Horb, hle, vbs

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On the last health bar 2nd phase

sweet flax
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just to be 100% sure

abstract sequoia
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winnable

sweet flax
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your horb has dkey right

proper quiver
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Yes

abstract sequoia
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she does

sweet flax
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what rank is this?

proper quiver
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A3

sweet flax
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fr?

proper quiver
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Mhm

abstract sequoia
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can confirm, D is 495

proper quiver
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I’m deranking but it’s whatever

abstract sequoia
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RL is above 500

sweet flax
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A3 IS ALMOST 500???

abstract sequoia
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yeah

lyric anvil
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Yes

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Sea is idk about EU and NA

abstract sequoia
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old players are slowly falling

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who refuse to play p2

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and newbies might have A2 as a new norm

sweet flax
proper quiver
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Ima try this

abstract sequoia
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and anyone who "quit" the game

proper quiver
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Everyday I regret getting sena over paws

lyric anvil
abstract sequoia
proper quiver
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Very easy

abstract sequoia
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and weapon skill exploded the hats?

proper quiver
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Yes

abstract sequoia
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nice

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so it is enough

lyric anvil
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Can her Ult inflict Para or?

abstract sequoia
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no

lyric anvil
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Damn LanternHeavyThoughts

abstract sequoia
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only non-full WA outside SO and her first full WA inside SO

proper quiver
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What is next abyss

abstract sequoia
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she throws a bomb that applies paralyze after a small hitcounter

sweet flax
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ice raven iirc

abstract sequoia
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yeah ice raven

sweet flax
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thank god enough paws

lyric anvil
proper quiver
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Paws payola needs to end

abstract sequoia
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thelemas rise up

lyric anvil
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I'm forced to use HLE, PAWS, FDD on that

proper quiver
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This is worse than last abyss

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
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there were no gimmicks

abstract sequoia
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sampo is just annoying to fight

lyric anvil
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Benares wasn't bad LanternHeavyThoughts

proper quiver
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i dont have fdd weapon

abstract sequoia
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benares is a meatsack

proper quiver
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so it was cooked

abstract sequoia
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the weather was brutal

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cooked you quite literally

lyric anvil
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Ignite and Bleed

proper quiver
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please tell me most abyss isnt this bad

abstract sequoia
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nah

sweet flax
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welcome to shill

abstract sequoia
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like

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you have to play somewhat into the weather

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and you can perform well

sweet flax
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dw next patch you will see a hle weather that the same people who skipped hle will complain about like we are complaining about paws

lyric anvil
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Most of the Abyss will be catered to the patches Valkyrie

abstract sequoia
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try being in A3 when they arrive

lyric anvil
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Fooking door

sweet flax
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litost resonance vita symphony kevin

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what the actual fuck

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is that order

abstract sequoia
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wait its fire litost

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so badum should be an option for eclipse

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fdd can still apply the ignite for transition without weapon

sweet flax
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wasnt fdd too good for litost last patch

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it was also fire litost

proper quiver
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bro why is sena dying

sweet flax
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like the score gap was huge

abstract sequoia
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that's just sena

sweet flax
lyric anvil
proper quiver
sweet flax
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never hopefully

proper quiver
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sena dlc when

sweet flax
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never hopefully

abstract sequoia
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new valk would be nice

proper quiver
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i would sell sena for 30 pulls

sweet flax
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I would sell sena for a kiss on the cheek from da wei, she isnt worth shit

lyric anvil
sweet flax
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just dont

lyric anvil
sweet flax
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I beg

abstract sequoia
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I'm cooked on kevin

proper quiver
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what is symphony

sweet flax
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triple element check

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its 100% gonna be a hle fdd paws check

abstract sequoia
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symphony wants as many different elements as possible

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physical does not count

proper quiver
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why is paws payola so strong

sweet flax
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I think mps lp and lds should be another option

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but how does mps compare to hle

lyric anvil
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Sena can be another option

proper quiver
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whos mps

abstract sequoia
proper quiver
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oh thelemaa

sweet flax
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WHY ARE THERE SO MANY P2 FIRE UNITS FFS

proper quiver
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right

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4/8 of my pt2 units are fire

lyric anvil
proper quiver
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what om stupid

sweet flax
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wod has 3 units bro 090_SKULLY

proper quiver
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its 3/8

abstract sequoia
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consider that too

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it's not just about elements

proper quiver
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ill prob do sena, hle, fdd or something cope

lyric anvil
abstract sequoia
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you can go 2 elements to cope

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that's fine

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diabolic kevin however has an interesting mechanic

sweet flax
lyric anvil
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Lol

abstract sequoia
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he can apply dmg reduction on himself for one element at some points in the fight

lyric anvil
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||Lamp is in BP I believe next patch||

sweet flax
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perfect, can finally get her weapon

proper quiver
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like what am i supposed to do with this pile of shit

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
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the only bad unit here is sena

proper quiver
abstract sequoia
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at least you have a solid breach support and a potential impair support for later physical valks

proper quiver
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fdd and fws dont have weapon

primal herald
proper quiver
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i am getting fdd tho so thats okay

abstract sequoia
lyric anvil
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Not the only one

proper quiver
abstract sequoia
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didn't get thelema nor lantern because of that

proper quiver
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i lost 150 trophies last abyss

lyric anvil
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How do you think I have my HoRb LanternHeavyThoughts

abstract sequoia
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only got thelema later out of sheer luck

lyric anvil
abstract sequoia
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i skipped RS because Sparkle

proper quiver
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i have ||ritas|| bis team right?

lyric anvil
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Sena and HLE RozaThink

abstract sequoia
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sure can work

proper quiver
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i have no idea how to play thelema so i dont touch her

abstract sequoia
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and ||imaginary|| has a lot of enemies that you will need someone for

lyric anvil
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IMG a pain

abstract sequoia
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i know the tricks

lyric anvil
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Flower wasn't fun with PAWS dps and I barely survived it TeriRip

abstract sequoia
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the others probably also do

primal herald
lyric anvil
abstract sequoia
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it's sena and jds now

proper quiver
primal herald
abstract sequoia
lyric anvil
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Yeah part 1 starter banners are gone

proper quiver
abstract sequoia
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!faq starter

small willowBOT
# abstract sequoia !faq starter
Starter Supply

Don't waste crystals, Captain! AichanCrystals

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of why Starter Supply is not recommended [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Short answer:

  • Brand new Valkyries to be prioritised over old ones (see [!faq backpull](#👶beginner-help message)).
  • The discounted 10x does not make it good. Only do the 1 single pull that gets refunded anyway.
  • In most cases, you will not have the infrastructure to make a good team with either of these Valkyries.
  • Your crystals are better spent on new Valkyries: the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.
  • This banner is only recommended for people willing to reroll accounts until they get a Valkyrie in the first 10x. Ask us what to do if you are interested in rerolling, it is very dependant on the patch contents.
proper quiver
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i want hofi dlc so bad but my account is not build for it

lyric anvil
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I don't know which patch they ended
8.1 or 8.0

abstract sequoia
primal herald
abstract sequoia
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nah

primal herald
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im so stupid 😔

lyric anvil
proper quiver
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i also want vita because i like the voiceline when she summons her robot before battle

opal palm
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next ver ||how much bchip is needed for vita's upcoming skin||

abstract sequoia
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dorm is like any other standard banner in gacha games, you shouldn't waste crystals on it

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outdated retirement home

lyric anvil
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Pretty much

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Gonna start seeing a lot of part 1

primal herald
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damn guess i will keep pulling for ely's bow then

zenith vale
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is lunar vow the char still worth investing in?

abstract sequoia
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and whether you have her team ready

proper quiver
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can i grind 12 pulls (with monthly) in the next 6 days

abstract sequoia
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use the calculator for that

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!faq calc

small willowBOT
proper quiver
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should i 65 sena or horb weapon

abstract sequoia
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who has more score as dps?

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upgrade the one that clearly gave you more

zenith vale
# abstract sequoia depends on the amount of investment

||sorry i dont actually know if its fine to talk about CN content here cause im new here so ill spoiler this just incase! but im asking cause she'll be free next patch and I think I can only pick up at most her wep from the BP shop and was wondering if that'll be worth it||

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
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asking with spoilering is fine here

proper quiver
zenith vale
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noted on the spoiler tag, thankess

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
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inb4 wife returns banner

sweet flax
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||and to be honest with you, whenever they give use free units it usually means they either have plans for them and makes sure its accessible to all players (such as with hohe/hos dkeys) or because she wont be obtainable for a really long time||

zenith vale
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okie then should i just wait for tthe next bp cycle for thelema's wep instead? i have her full set from using the freebie resources to craft it and i got her from the spenders shop

proper quiver
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should i use sena/vbs/fws, sena/vbs/horb, or sena/vbs/hle

sweet flax
zenith vale
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but idk if she can fit into the teams i current have which are just hle, sparkle and then ||hohe and hofi with thier upcoming dlc banners||

abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
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the big symbol is her main ring or "specialization" which she can always support, the smaller symbols are her support rings or "attributes"

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if you want to know who can support her, look for valks with the "Harmonized Shadow Star" tag

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that's the Wheel of Destiny support tag

abstract sequoia
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only rite of oblivion with it's omniscient star is special, being able to support every ring on it's own but always weaker than the correct attributes

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that's why VBm is always your slot filler if you have nothing else

proper quiver
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im giving up on sena

abstract sequoia
proud maple
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How to use Coralie FDD and HLE together? @ancient needle

amber finch
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if its fdd then it doesnt really work

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since hle isnt roo

proud maple
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HLE leader

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Fdd is support

amber finch
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well you just do hle's dps rotation then fdd qte weapon active and ult

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if you dont know hle's dps rotation then i recommend checking out the tutorial ingame

proud maple
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Still they can't clear RL I guess..have to try next week

amber finch
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she's a ranged unit and this abyss heavily favors meele units

proud maple
amber finch
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show me what valks you have

quick birch
proud maple
amber finch
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oh what

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i thought you were way higher lvl bc of how long you've been hereHimekoLMAO

proud maple
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I got demoted last time to agony

quick birch
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what's the weather in masters, this sounds like a rotation issue tbh

proud maple
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This time I cleared it

amber finch
proud maple
amber finch
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qmanifold doesnt have debuffs if im not wrong

proud maple
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I got Coralie and her weapon Yesterday

amber finch
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ok so it was a team issue

proud maple
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And is working on them to make it maxed

amber finch
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if you know how to use hle already then all you gotta do on fdd is literally just qte weapon active and ult

proud maple
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So can HLE AND Fdd maintain me exalted RL?

amber finch
proud maple
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Or is agony 3 is my destiny?

amber finch
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just those 2 alone is not enough

amber finch
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spoiler that and ||she doesnt support goi||

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|| hle can support her so that's something, and she's her bis too||

proud maple
proud maple
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And HLE FDD Support

amber finch
proud maple
proud maple
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Yet to get her stigs to max

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One is 50 another is 45

zenith vale
quick birch
# proud maple Yet to get her stigs to max

may i ask what your rotation looks like then ? because your team does sound like you should be able to clear tbh, recording would be perfect if you can but describing is also fine

sweet flax
proud maple
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I will come back here for help if I get struck at RL

abstract sequoia
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i just bruteforced his hats, turns out they aren't indestructible

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any vbs run lacked damage in p2

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leading to severe point loss

amber finch
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i wonder

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what about sci

abstract sequoia
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can't test her

amber finch
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oh right ur new

abstract sequoia
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but i guess she can work

abstract sequoia
amber finch
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yeah

amber finch
serene crystal
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I remember the recommendation back then being skip on her as well and don't have her for the same reason.

abstract sequoia
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the patch after her was glb ani and it turned out to be just too important

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vita and hofi dk

amber finch
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basically she was considered a bait

abstract sequoia
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she fell under that stereotype due to her bad timing

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not necessarily for being quantum

serene crystal
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Quantum was at least part of the issue the fact that next patch was extremely good didn't help her at all though.

ancient needle
#

Her supporting capabilities were genuinely lacking tbf

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Sparkle is the one that actually fell under the stereotype

novel path
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any tips on the team for this abyss? this is all the part2 valks i have

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or the team i got selected is the best one i can get with what i have

vagrant field
#

I just got elysian. Is she good to combine with fws and vbm??

serene crystal
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She would prefer another Symbiosis support instead of VBm but she can work as a cope option.

ancient needle
quick birch
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couldnt they also try to cook something with fws pretty sure a lot of her attacks are meele

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fws + sparkle + jds/ps ig

ancient needle
#

Cuz with that logic Sparkle is eligible too TeriDerp

quick birch
#

horb just won't benefit from the weather buff so idt she'll be better than fws

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sena might ngl

ancient needle
quick birch
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summon damage

ancient needle
#

Ah, you meant that way

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I think that Sena is best here, but I'm not 100% sure

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I can't prove it yet

quick birch
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i could've sworn horb had a similair skill to fdd and ps maybe i'm just loosing it

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cuz i can't find it

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nvm i'm just blind though this does not mention it's neither meele or ranged

wicked pebble
#

what is the best love elf team

mortal mica
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what is the best team i could do ? all of them have stigs but no weapon (except coralie)

ancient needle
ancient needle
raven bane
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should i get the box or einstein

quick birch
raven bane
serene crystal
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All the options have the same value + 10 ATK and ||they are all available from reserve works from next patch onwards so there is no meaningful difference in value.||

raw elbow
#

If global servers are gone, which server is my game progress reallocated to?

quick birch
serene crystal
#

That depends on how Hoyo wants to do the transfer and as there has been no info from Hoyo that they want to close Global so we have no idea on how they would do it.

novel comet
#

what character should i get in the war treasury

shell basin
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None of them are used for meta

kind hull
#

so is there any way to stop bronya's mech taking up half of the textboxes

grim meadow
#

any idea what thehell i can use for ts

ancient needle
ancient needle
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Not atp

grim meadow
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though im pretty sure i might be cooked but we'll see..

ancient needle
#

Yeah, do that

ancient needle
wicked pebble
ancient needle
# wicked pebble Why not

||She won't be able to support 8.6 and her value beyond that is unknown because she doesn't have a "???" AR tag||

#
  • you probably won't be able to afford her rn anyway
grim meadow
# ancient needle Yeah, do that

ignore jk and mpe
everyone except lantern and ps are 4/4 maxxed, lanterns running foundry weapon and ps is running pandoras box

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hohe dkey aswl

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all ofm y other valks r pt 1 w/o dkey so yeah

grim meadow
wide bison
#

Is there a way for me to get Mobius fast

shell basin
#

I think some of the current events are also 1 time sources

wide bison
shell basin
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war treasury currency

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She’s in the war treasury so you need the currency to buy her there

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AL is specifically Ancient Legacy

wide bison
shell basin
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Yeah most of the income is level gated

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High level players can get way more of it

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Hence rushing story to level up if you’re in a hurry

wide bison
#

Ily Mobius but I really don't wanna rush the story 😭 guess I'll get her eventually

shell basin
#

Yeah you’ll get her in time

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Won’t take that long anyway

wide bison
#

Yeah I'm already like level 54 just by logging in everyday so it shouldn't take long

Also I heard something happens at lvl 80 something to do with a ceiling. What is it?

shell basin
#

You can either choose to stay at level 80, with easier challenges, or break through the ceiling to level 81+ and get more rewards but harder challenges

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It’s almost always worth it to break through

wide bison
#

So the equivalent of ascension quest from hoyo games

shell basin
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You can ask for more specifics if you want to be sure but 9/10, 99/100 you’ll get more rewards for breaking through

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Sorta yeah. Not exactly the same but

wide bison
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Alright I'll take it nice and easy for now. I want to enjoy the game's lore

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I'm too late by now so all I can do is play for the story and collect characters I like

shell basin
novel path
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never used them together

shell basin
#

Coulda been bouncing the highest tier but I made some bad decisions on purpose

novel path
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this was the best i could do with that team

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most players havent played yet so will get surpassed 100%

shell basin
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Yeah you’re mostly hoping enough of them either don’t have paws or don’t know how to play

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Not impossible, I mean, it’s A2

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But rough

ancient needle
# novel path mind to explain the sena fws hle rotation pls

FWS applies her buffs with either QTE, enhanced WA (don't do that one, too slow) or CA, and she procs Stellar Drain with enhanced WA (again, don't do that) or CA
HLE applies buffs with either QTE (I would turn it off though) or WA and procs Stellar Drain with ult

So the non-SO rot would be Badum CA -> HLE WA + ult -> Sena DPS rot -> HLE WA -> Badum QTE -> Sena -> repeat

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The SO rot would just be placing the anchor on Sena -> FWS reso procs -> HLE reso procs -> Sena

ancient needle
#

The non-SO rot will be pretty awkward cuz of CD issues

misty linden
#

so i just started playing chapter nine,, when do we go back tousing our own characters. i hate Theresa

ancient needle
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There are some pure combat stages that allow you to use your own chars, but the story itself doesn't

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That's if talking Part 1

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In Part 2 you can use your own chars in OW chapters except boss fights

misty linden
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ohh, this sucks but i get why

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i really hate using Theresa

iron parrot
#

sorry her legs are short

inner bronze
#

any vids of paws fdd badum vs sampo?

lone crater
#

did u try youtube

inner bronze
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yea but for some reason my dmg just doesnt compare

shell basin
#

probably you're messing up ur rot, thats the usual reason

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but hard to say without seeing it

faint wasp
#

what can i do with melee shill... SenadinaStare

shell basin
faint wasp
shell basin
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np

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may your bracket have a bunch of people with no paws who dont know how to play so you retain

faint wasp
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my brackets have been the opposite for the past few weeks unfortunately, hope that changes soon, this beginner ahh acc is struggling LanternHeavyThoughts

shell basin
#

yeah its rough trying to brute force abyss when you dont have the right team

faint wasp
#

On another note, how do people decide wether or not they pull for the debut battlesuit aside from havign enough xtals?? and how much was it again?? (average amount of xtals needed or for guaranteed)

shell basin
# faint wasp On another note, how do people decide wether or not they pull for the debut batt...

Ideally you want to pull all of them. However, sometimes you have to skip, and there's no one thing that decides it. Some things to consider are

  • Is there another patch coming up soon that's probably better, like CNY or Anni?
  • Do you have a cope option that can maybe retain on the bosses (For instance, for ||rita||, do you have Hoo+Hofi Dkey?)
  • Do you have the right teammates for the battlesuit? If not, they might be lower priority because you won't retain on their shill anyway
  • How common is their niche? For instance, quantum weathers are fairly rare, so quantum battlesuits are sometimes considered less valuable
  • How good are they? This is hard to say, since they're often going to be best on their shill, but for most battlesuits there's some weather or bosses that multiple people qualify for
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like img weather bosses could be either dudu or trio, say

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and if they are usually better than others on those (and therefore have more bosses) they're a better pull than someone who needs specific shill to be good. Also in consideration here is how good they are at support, think how fast their buff cycle is / how many ring tags / if they offer breach

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Average case is about 30k crystals, worst case scenario is about 40.5k

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to get a battlesuit and weapon

shell basin
lyric anvil
#

VBs

shell basin
#

yeah sure FDD VBS VBM, definitely a good option for this abyss 💀

lyric anvil
low ridge
#

Is this good😥

shell basin
low ridge
shell basin
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you can probably do better since a2 is paper but it's also a2 so probably it's fine

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since if they knew how to play they wouldnt be in a2

low ridge
#

Anyways

low ridge
shell basin
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unlock the shicksal HQ map

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this coming monday

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instead of whatever you are doing rn

low ridge
#

Ok

#

What’s the next rotation for these going to be

shell basin
#

unknown, it just came over to this one this patch

low ridge
#

Like do I have any good supports for her

shell basin
#

||Rita seems like a solid pick, you have a team for her, multiple options if thelema has wep.|| What does your crystal count look like?

low ridge
shell basin
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Oh yeah in that case I would save. You can toss a few pulls at her banner in case u get her early enough to guarentee weapon

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but if u cant afford her you cant afford her

zenith vale
#

(standard supply)
I’m sorry not trying to flex, just wanted to understand the system cause I thought the rules said it wouldn’t give you someone you alr have? Or does that only happen to the first S rank rolled, and any after that is just pure chance?

Not that I’m complaining about hohe! ||esp with her dlc banner rerunning||

shadow gyro
glossy laurel
#

hii ! are there any codes that i can redeem? i'm a new player

shadow gyro
glossy laurel
#

thank u sm !

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i got her early omgggg

rotund roost
#

theres a 999 dice right

waxen wharf
#

So I'm a returning player to HOI3. Swear I thought I didn't get too far before. But coming back I'm all the way into chapter 11 and got 100% in everything else subsequently. Don't remember jack about what's going on.

What's the uh recommended way to get a recap. Just view cutscenes?

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Should mention I mean for part 1 not part 2

hardy lintel
#

guys what is time fracture?

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i may had use it countless time but by name i got no idea xd

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thought it was like the evation skill thingy you go slow mode but idk if i either did it wrong or it is nto

shadow gyro
shell basin
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you could also consider a new account if you arent attached

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and then you could replay it and get starter bonuses in one

shadow gyro
waxen wharf
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Nah because I remember the reason I quit was because I got stuck on Wendy. Could not get past her. Came back. Somehow I'm past her. WOn't question it lol

(Has been a while so maybe I'm misremembering and I did end up beating her. But swear I remember it being ridiculously difficult and why I stopped playing)

haughty elbow
#

i sat there for a few minutes there is indeed not a 999

hardy lintel
rotund roost
haughty elbow
#

yes

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by a few i mean quite a bit

hardy lintel
#

mainly so i can use this to get those damn exiting 5 gems XD

rotund roost
#

Can I open this so I can do the FR trial or HoT trial?

shadow gyro
shadow gyro
rotund roost
shadow gyro
slim blaze
glossy laurel
shadow gyro
glossy laurel
#

should i just do the story rn?

#

i'm at chapter 11 now

waxen wharf
# glossy laurel i'm at chapter 11 now

Ah hey you're exactly where I'm at lol. I'm watching some recap videos because I can't remember what was going on

Edit: Also I'm just focusing on the story and nothing else. Once I get into part 2 maybe I'll start thinking about stuff like pulling units or doing events or whatever. I'm too lost in the sauce right now

mild latch
#

wat weapon should i go for

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i have ego elysia and pardofelis

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and jade knight im close to unlocking her but idk

vivid horizon
#

purana

zenith vale
rotund roost
#

what elf for this

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or should I just keep

shadow gyro
#

ideally kiaelf but u can keep the box until u need it

midnight shard
#

Guys I need help

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How do I invest in her

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I have her stigmata all three but do I need to get her weapon

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Im only at chapter 10

rotund roost
#

5 days, you will get her weapon trust

midnight shard
#

I have her other form called herrscher of human

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Do i use the cat girl as a support

midnight shard
low ridge
#

Anyways do I need to upgrade these

shadow gyro
# zenith vale hi sorry for the late! no I wasnt keeping track of how much I had been pulling c...

im not sure who between roza and ely you got first from the same dorm pull but if you had a high chance to an s rank u dont own then you probably used it on roza then was lucky to get another s rank so you had a lower chance for an s rank u dont own so u got hoh
or maybe you had a low chance for an s rank u dont own but was lucky to get a new one anyways

i actually wont sweat it honestly, the important thing is that you get a new unit for dorm levels and someone youll use in stress test and ER later one while also being lucky to get hoh of all people

low ridge
# midnight shard Okayy

And like weapons are so necessary they you shouldn’t pull for a character if you can’t get there weapons

midnight shard
#

So I need this for her

low ridge
#

Yes

midnight shard
#

Okay

shadow gyro
low ridge
#

But you have the beginning stuff so I believe in you

midnight shard
#

I dont have the starter manual

shadow gyro
midnight shard
#

Its glitched

low ridge
midnight shard
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When I login I didn't get the starter manual

low ridge
#

Restart your game then

shadow gyro
#

u had it before or did u never see it when you started the game?

midnight shard
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I created the account four days ago

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Brand new

low ridge
#

Idk because that’s a LOT of gems being missed

midnight shard
#

No other accounts nothing

shadow gyro
#

i mean did u see it when you started the account or no

midnight shard
#

No

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It wasnt there when I started this game

shadow gyro
#

you never used that account ever before right?

midnight shard
#

Nope never

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I just created it four days ago

shadow gyro
#

yeah you got a glitch

midnight shard
#

Yea

shadow gyro
#

at least report it

midnight shard
#

I did

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I haven't gotten a report back

low ridge
#

Maybe contact support

shadow gyro
#

tbh youll be missing out on good stuff without it

low ridge
#

In game

midnight shard
#

Yea I saw the rewards in youtube

low ridge
midnight shard
#

Im sad about it

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I wanted the purple girl in the beginner banner

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The one with the white and purple and pink

low ridge
#

You going to have to be on your grind to get her weapon

midnight shard
#

Yea

shadow gyro
midnight shard
#

I grinned so much im only at 40 pulls still to get it

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I think its called kiana

shadow gyro
#

although beginner supply is a scam btw

midnight shard
#

Herrscher of something

low ridge
#

That’s weird

midnight shard
midnight shard
#

Okay

#

Its with herrscher of finality and Uhhh herrscher of truth

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And the other things

shadow gyro
# midnight shard I think its called kiana

that was long ago, shes no longer in beginner supply
shes in a shop called reserve works, takes forever to grind so not worth it unless you dont care and want her anyways
shes in dorm but u cant gurantee her

midnight shard
#

I called it the beginner supply banner

midnight shard
#

I didn't know there was a real beginner banner

shadow gyro
#

oh just called it dorm supply
some ppl say standard supply but dorm is most used

low ridge
#

lol

midnight shard
#

Ohhh okay

shadow gyro
#

or permanent supply or wtv

#

you have to know that there is a different supply called beginner supply so yeah

low ridge
midnight shard
midnight shard
#

This is my first account I ever made

low ridge
#

Idk

shadow gyro
#

ngl if you barely did anything maybe do an alt
because im not sure if CS can help you

midnight shard
#

Ill just deal with it and keep grinding

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I dont want to restart again and grind for the new character cause I got it in a single ten free pull

low ridge
#

Did you have to do the starting mission where you fight Honkai beast on top of the ship as Kiana

shadow gyro
#

i mean u can still try rerolling but up to u

midnight shard
#

I asked the other low level in the general chat they got it

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But I didnt

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Like in game

shadow gyro
#

ill admit some ppl in here reported the case of them not getting it but idk if theres a fix

midnight shard
#

Well it for sure isn't fix cause I didn't got it

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But oh well

#

I still get the free 1200 gems

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And other free pulls

low ridge
midnight shard
#

After I got herrscher of human

midnight shard
#

To get the weapon

#

I can grind all the stories and events to get the weapon

low ridge
midnight shard
#

Mhm thank you

low ridge
#

So should i upgrade them

shell basin
#

Damage vs typeless one is nice

#

SP gain and healing are whatever

#

If you have enough ASMs tho by all means get em all

low ridge
shell basin
#

but like, priority 3 or 4

glossy laurel
#

how to get attempts in expedition...

storm lantern
#

daily reset

glad ice
#

the befall is only 1 per day

#

there are 2 befall boxes

waxen wharf
#

After all this time I'm only just now realizing the Wendy I got stuck on back then that made me quit in chapter 11. Was not necessary for the story. MeiStare

I was wrong it is necessary im cooked

mortal mica
glossy laurel
waxen wharf
#

Yep. Still as frustrating as I remember. Supposedly the shield color is how you know to switch but she will just randomly stop taking damage.

fallow warren
#

hi guys i just started playing, should i pull for dorm supply or elysia hi elf

novel path
charred burrow
glad ice
#

idk if sena deal melee or not

novel path
glad ice
#

or paralyze

ancient needle
#

VBs can apply Para with her regular WA (when her bar is not full) -> BA

ancient needle
ancient needle
#

Running VBs makes the rot a lot easier though (no CD issues)

maiden garden
#

Do I buy the prisms from here or smth else is more valuable

glad ice
#

save it

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stamps are more valuable

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prism can be saved until u re in a sudden need

#

u dont have a lot of currency anw

maiden garden
maiden garden
glad ice
#

the stamp will be swap randomly every few patches

#

before sena it was hohe which is not from bp paid shop

robust forge
#

!faq er signets

low ridge
#

Who is this diva

#

I don’t pay attention to the story I skip though and I saw her

glad ice
#

||mother of dragon||

low ridge
#

Wait I hope she becames playable

glad ice
#

nah u got dracolie instead

low ridge
glad ice
#

lets hope cn whales approve enough

low ridge
#

I heard they don’t like pocs but I will hope the queen becomes playable

low ridge
#

So many pretty unplayable characters

glad ice
#

||dreamseeker|| but in black clothes

low ridge
#

Who

glad ice
#

ur free aop

low ridge
low ridge
glad ice
#

no, ||vita delete male account after chapter 3||

low ridge
glad ice
#

"accidentally"

low ridge
#

So people who had the male one it turned into a female

wicked pebble
#

does pity carry over

glad ice
#

on main banner yes

sweet flax
#

battlesuit/equipment supply are the main banners btw*
dorm also carries pity but you shouldnt spend crystals on it

lone crater
glad ice
#

Aop banner also carry pity over to the next aop

low ridge
#

How to I get this

#

Anyone know

amber finch
# low ridge Anyone know

take in a player as a “cadet” and have them complete cadet missions for that currency

how to:
friends—> sensei

low ridge
#

Oh

lethal valley
#

guys is mobius still good

outer spruce
opal ingot
#

🐍

radiant cosmos
#

Is it worthy to return to the game right now? Is there a worty events going on?

shadow gyro
fast sluice
#

how do i complete this? it takes me to apho but im still in part 1 so i dont wanna do it

ionic magnet
#

who shld I build / pull for

serene crystal
mortal carbon
#

it spoils some things
but yeah it can be any open world, doesnt have to be APHO 1 iirc

serene crystal
#

Do you have Hi Love Elf's weapon? If not that is highest priority.
Your second priority is to ensure that you can pull for valk + weapon next patch. For build priority HLE > FWS > MPS > VBm

ancient needle
ancient needle
#

You probably don't have a lot of Prisms rn, I wouldn't go beyond lvl 45 on any of the valks's stigs (keep VBm's stigs at lvl 35)

ancient needle
ionic magnet
#

uhh I have 3

kind hull
#

anyone have any tips for beating stage 2 of Kallen Fantasy challenge? I always get onto the third part of the stage but the timer runs out before i can win

serene crystal
#

Shift out SI for RC and HoV for TA would be my basic plan

kind hull
#

who's TA?

serene crystal
#

Terminal Aide

#

What character do you have?

vivid shard
#

Not exactly a beginner but haven't played in a while
Are any of the current/upcoming banner characters good teammates for Herrsercher of the Void

serene crystal
#

What are you trying to do with HoV?

vivid shard
serene crystal
#

RS does have some ability to support part 1 physical but of course HoV is still basically unplayable in Abyss

#

For that mission I would do HoHe, HoV, RC. HoV can work as you just want three independent units.

#

Are there any side which you particularly struggle with because when I tried it everything just died in one hit.

kind hull
#

the joyo/jun ninja on the left side were either taking loads of time or killing me

#

nvm i did it by killing them with ellie ult

worldly crystal
#

guys what weapon could I give to starry impression if I dont have hearts color?

shell basin
#

Maybe whichever of the Binding dkeys you plan to level up to 50 for the lightning gene limit

maiden garden
#

Do I have to do all this missions for the breakthrough?

glad ice
#

u are not forced to do them but the reward is the exp which help u reach breaking lvl faster

shell basin
#

Yeah

#

You could do zero of them and still hit level 81 it’ll just take longer

worldly crystal
#

how can I easily get weapon resonance?

shell basin
#

You craft bounty weapons and then break them down into reso

worldly crystal
#

Do I need to level up the bounty weapons before converting them for weapon resonance?

shell basin
#

Typically takes a bunch of ether fuel, 190 G1 materials from invitation to mirage, and 150 AE imaginions

#

But some of them take say Ranger creds instead

shell basin
#

The cheapest bounty weapons should is iirc 3rd sacred relic but it’ll only save you like 140k coins or something

#

You could pick different ones for collection purposes

maiden garden
shell basin
#

It is typically more efficient to use tickets on the second stage of a mirage and then farm level 6 normally for ether fuel than the other way around

worldly crystal
#

ill probably go for ones that use AE since I have alot of those

worldly crystal
maiden garden
#

How impactful is not doing mirage stages for relatively new players (lvl 80 😭)

I'm just not in the mood most of the time I notice it exists

shell basin
#

And it’s a lot of runs to get 190 without mirage

shell basin
#

Mostly they’re used for obtaining dkeys (Pledge of Sakura and oath of Judah) and then for crafting p2 stigmas you don’t roll (600 ether fuel per)

#

If you’re lucky you never need to farm it again after you craft the dkeys, if you’re unlucky you might need to go back, and there’s other niche craftables you might benefit from (but might decide aren’t worth the effort)

maiden garden
maiden garden
shell basin
#

Yeah. +10 attack and lightning gene limit

glad ice
#

u only have 10 mirage entries per week

#

using tickets/coupons or not, after 10 times u're done for the week

karmic smelt
#

how important is chenxue to hle?

shell basin
#

Would need SS too

#

S Chenchen is a dreamseeker sidegrade, scores worse on some bosses

#

Like Hellmaru

glad ice
#

S chenxue give (HLE and all Goi's teams) bonus start ARI, letting u SO (burst mode) sooner. SS chenxue give bonus ARI regen, letting u SO again sooner

#

and bcs part 2 gameplay is around "SO = big dmg" it will affect ur competitive potential

#

that's the mutual advantage of gacha Aop. the dmg buff from aop isnt as important as the ability to let ur team SO sooner

cold niche
#

What kinda team should I use for abyss? Everyone is using paws but I don’t got her 🥀🥀

shell basin
#

That way you have para for transition at least

#

Could also try HLE FDD VBM but I wouldn’t expect much from it either

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Might be time to get 1800 and sleep

earnest pewter
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chat may i ask for help

shell basin
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Don’t ask to ask, just let us know what we can help with

earnest pewter
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so i just went over pings and saw that its better to restart than play on a returnee account

shell basin
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Depends on what the returnee account has but often times yeah

earnest pewter
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the problem is that I got the new ely suit (i hope they're called suits) in the free 10 pull

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i have no other s ranks except for a theresa from standard and HoV

shell basin
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Do you have any other part 2 battlesuits? What is your crystal count and dorm levels? What story progress are you at?

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Also, do you have any meta goals or are you just trying to collect characters?

earnest pewter
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i have VBS

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and i think thats it when it comes to p2

earnest pewter
shell basin
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I would guess that it’s better for you to restart but not enormously better unless you’re willing to reroll; other decisions depend on the answers to other questions

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Hmm. So basically nothing on this account other than HLE but you have HLE

glad ice
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LiliStare vbs is the worst p2 char tbh

shell basin
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Yeah if you’re willing to reroll it’s better to restart, if you aren’t willing to reroll it’s pretty close

earnest pewter
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i also have HoHE(?)

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from the 3 day login thing

shell basin
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She’s free this patch yeah any account would have her

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If you want to stick with this, your goal is to grind out story to try to get HLE weapon before banner goes away

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And get Valkyrie blastmetal from part 2 story

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And then you have a cope team and can save for next patch

earnest pewter
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forgive my awful terminology

shell basin
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That’s VBM

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VBS is Boltstorm

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The mini helia

earnest pewter
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i may or may not have misread

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yeah i have vbm not vbs

shell basin
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If you keep this account your team for the next 5 weeks will be Hi Love Elf, Valkyrie Blastmetal, Reverist Calico; you want to try to get HLE weapon (top priority, you don’t have much time) while slowly ranking up Valkyrie Blastmetal to SSS and Reverist Calico to S in the asterite shop

earnest pewter
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how do i check my p1 story progress

shell basin
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Attack->story. You probably won’t be very far

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The less far the better because it means you have more 1 time crystals left

earnest pewter
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chapter 7