👶beginner-help

[pallid vortex]

Is taht bad?

[lone kindle]

bad move, your account imo is not ready for exalted

[lone kindle]

its good, really good

but when your account is ready

[pallid vortex]

Ok so what happens now exactly?

[lone kindle]

you get more xtals, more rewards and everything, but things turn harder

[lone kindle]

you have to deal with things however you can

we will help you, dont worry

so, to return to the initial topic

[pallid vortex]

Is that specific to this game mood or everything else too included?

[lone kindle]

mostly ma and abyss

history, er, ow, and everything else dont change

but the competitive modes, that would grant you the most xtals are now almost too hard for you

i doubt you can even complete that stage

[pallid vortex]

Cant i like just ignore it or something?

[lone kindle]

but well, better try and fail that never traing

[lone kindle]

well, yeah, you can skip abyss and ma, but you would loose xtals

[pallid vortex]

You know till o get the new Coralie

Ok hmm i will try as you said maybe it will somehow works

[lone kindle]

your best shot would be, with the things you have leveled

||let me see again||

[pallid vortex]

I have maximazed Vita except her weapon i lack material for the last upgrade

[lone kindle]

level up terminal aide 007, starlit astrologos, and reverist calico

[lone kindle]

oh right you had vita

maybe things are plausible after all

use vita, vbm and reverist calico

[pallid vortex]

Ok just a sec to check the last one

Ok why is Calico good anyway i have her at rank A is she worth it ?

[lone kindle]

general elemental buffs

its mostly to fill space

you should be playing all the time with vita

farm astral ring, use astral ring

farm astral ring, use astral ring

[pallid vortex]

Speaking of astral ring the Main astral Op how to get their like parts to lvl to Ss

[lone kindle]

pls take into account that rank and level are tweo different things

to get her to rank ss you have to complete the part 2 chapter 4

to level her you just have to give her level up chips

[pallid vortex]

Sorry meant Rank well i guess I have to go and play the story

Thx

[lone kindle]

[fallen furnace]

I who should I get from the beginner selector??

[lone kindle]

no one

[fallen furnace]

?

[lone kindle]

!faq starter banner

[small willow]

No FAQ for 'starter banner' found.

[lone kindle]

dont pull on starter supply

!faq starter supply

[small willow]

No FAQ for 'starter supply' found.

[fallen furnace]

Nah I mean from the egg thingy from starter manual

[lone kindle]

ahhh

!faq eg

[small willow]

Did you mean

FAQ id:70 tags:regen
FAQ id:93 tags:startersupply, starter, starterbanner, beginnerbanner
FAQ id:102 tags:ancient, ancient willpower income, aw income, al income, ancient legacy income
FAQ id:124 tags:egg
FAQ id:149 tags:register hi3 cn account huawei app gallery
FAQ id:168 tags:cheapset, budget stig, cheapstig, beginnerstig, fhm, glut
FAQ id:184 tags:lego, legos, farmlegos, honkaiblocks, dormblocks

[lone kindle]

!faq egg

[small willow]

S-Rank Valkyrie Option

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the in-depth explanation of what to choose!

Ai-chan recommends that you keep this egg until you have two from the following: Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Goushinnso Memento. When you own two, unlock the one you are still missing.

[quick birch]

may i ask how old this account is ?

[pallid vortex]

Can i check in game? Or should i relay on my memories?

[lone kindle]

yes you can ingame

[pallid vortex]

Ok how

[quick birch]

go to the ai chan phone and click on log-in rewards or smth similair

[quick birch]

have you been introduced to the idea of restarting already ?

[pallid vortex]

Oh yes and i decided not to since well i have alot of things plus i like Vita so since i got her and her stuff i don't need to restart besides i have tone of ways to get gems since iam still on chapter like 13 or something and no other moods have been played yet i lately Played the elysian and iam still in the beginning since back then it didn't exist

[quick birch]

totally fine just wanted to make sure

also since you have vita your best team will probably be vita/vbm/vbs for now

until you get more units that is

[pallid vortex]

Vbs is the upcoming one?

[storm lantern]

what is your captain level

[pallid vortex]

81

[storm lantern]

damn starter manual really does carry leveling hard

[pallid vortex]

It was stuck at 80 when i returned then i pressed a button in the main profile and well i got to 81

[quick birch]

nah Vbs is a rank helia

Valkyrie bolstorm

[pallid vortex]

Oh i can build her? I don't have her weapon though

[quick birch]

that doesnt really matter we dont expect you to have it she just counts towards vita's leader bonus and provides non ring specific lightning and elemental buffs + stellar drain

[pallid vortex]

Ok should i give her the craft able one then? And what about the stigmata?

[quick birch]

just the starter one should do fine, regarding stigmatas you can prob give her glutoony t fhm bm unless coralie already uses that

[pallid vortex]

Coralie already have them

[quick birch]

hm lemme check something rq

[pallid vortex]

Take your time

[storm lantern]

next patch depending on how your weapon pulls go you can craft tsiolkovsky which is her signature set since she's gonna support your two gacha valks indefinitely, just make sure you have s rank coralie's stigmata first

actually i guess i dont know what your savings are like, i imagine they're not bad since you have 111 days and it looks like you only pulled one valk + weapon but depends on how lucky you got

[pallid vortex]

I pulled before actually liek on the regular banner and other Banners in general back then i didn't know about the concept of gacha games but well with vita i kinda of pulled about 40 pulls and got everything from her and her stuff

[storm lantern]

so how much do you have left

[pallid vortex]

Right now i ahve about 2700

But alot left to farm liek everything past chapter 13 plus now the Elysian realm and some other stories

[storm lantern]

how many valks in elysian realm do you have unlocked unleveled and/or with uncompleted shallow sequences

[pallid vortex]

I only played Vita

[storm lantern]

you can do the discounted 10-pull but likely you'll have to skip, you can farm up 16.8k crystals and use anything past that to pull for coralie but that strategy has a lot of downside since 8.5 is likely to be a spending event

[pallid vortex]

Have to skip liek the dragon Coralie?

[storm lantern]

yes

[pallid vortex]

Hmmm then who should i save for?

[storm lantern]

8.5 is unknown so cant really say

[pallid vortex]

And since the pity is transferred to the next banner shouldn't i at least you know try to get her?

[storm lantern]

we'll get beta info before coralie banner ends

[storm lantern]

8.5 is almost certainly going to be a spending event so you're losing currency by spending in 8.4 and you aren't going to be able to spend enough for the useful spending event reward this patch without using an unsound pulling strategy

[pallid vortex]

What is a spending event?

Besides the obvious name ofc

[storm lantern]

it's an event shop with currency obtained from pulling

[delicate needle]

I should forge this right

[storm lantern]

yes, always pri-arm your gacha weapons

[delicate needle]

Bet.

[pallid vortex]

Is there a picture and what currency is this liek is it used to buy what exactly?

[storm lantern]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

8.5 is unknown

[lone kindle]

and if yall find info thats a leak

banneable

(as off now obviusly)

when time passes they will release official stuff

[pallid vortex]

Ok so i shouldn't be pulling for the dragon Coralie i guess

[lone kindle]

ah no no you totally should

[lone kindle]

why did you think that?

[pallid vortex]

The spending event that Kanbearu talked about an dall

[lone kindle]

yeah spending xtals

for fdd

[pallid vortex]

Just go back few messages and you would understand

[lone kindle]

you get rewards for spending xtalls on gatcha

the thing is that 8.5 is a guess since its an aniversary

but 8.4 also has a confirmed spending

and tbh i dont think its a good idea for you to really drag your account even more by not pulling strong valks

[pallid vortex]

Ok iam confused so the spending event comes in 8.4 too?

[lone kindle]

yes

the spending you saw on cn channel is the 8.4

[quick birch]

though we have to differentiate 8.4 is a mini spending while anniversaries usually have a big spending event

[lone kindle]

this one is a pull what you need and get extra stuff

the next one, pull even your mama if needed

[quick birch]

eh spending are always extras rather than goals

when you can't afford a valk you simply have to skip

[pallid vortex]

So since the anniversary and all they would be like adding a new Valkyrie for the event probably good right?

[lone kindle]

they usually let you buy a valk in the big spendings

stamps at minimum

[quick birch]

rather old valks that is

[storm lantern]

you do have the option of spending money for monthly which should let you afford coralie and at least one release in 8.5 though definitely do the math, decide before next patch though since you get extra rewards for top up atm

[quick birch]

i think going with what kanbaeru already suggested is probably the safest approach you simply dont have the funds for fdd right now but she would be pretty beneficial to your account

so you can at least try to get her on the discounted and then save up until you have 16.8k crystals and spend any excess crystals on fdds banner so that if you get her that you can afford her weapon instantly

[pallid vortex]

So wait if i got the monthly card i can like get her guaranteed of i farmed everything?

[lone kindle]

guaranteed is a bif word rn ngl

[storm lantern]

farming everything is very ambitious but possibly

[lone kindle]

you could if you farm like theres no tomorrow

but you would get the burnout of the century

[pallid vortex]

What is fdds

[lone kindle]

!faq fdd

[small willow]

FDD = Behold! __F__ate-__D__efying __D__ragon

fdd + xdd =

[lone kindle]

dragon coralie

[pallid vortex]

Oh

[storm lantern]

you have 6 weeks of normal income + 620 extra a week from unlocking new er valks + whatever story/chronicles/voyage log/open world etc content you decide to do

[lone kindle]

no, 4

[pallid vortex]

Oh that's fine i don't play anything without watching a movie or a tv series anyway

[lone kindle]

fdd will only be 4 weeks iirc

[quick birch]

no 6 weeks

as every valk did since fws

[lyric anvil]

😭

[lone kindle]

yeah 6

mb

[storm lantern]

@pallid vortex i don't expect you to do all the content assumed here even if you do play a lot but turns out you should be fine to pull for coralie

it's hard to imagine any 8.5 release being better than coralie for your account since you only have vita + vbm

i'd probably assume about 5k fewer xtals than this which is still pretty safe

[pallid vortex]

Ok wow that was amazing thx for th trouble ♥️

[storm lantern]

np bestie

[midnight nexus]

Hello, I am new to the game. Could you please tell me what I need to pay attention to?

[shell basin]

check out the account progression pin here: #👶beginner-help message

or the more general "lost" pin here #👶beginner-help message

[hidden cave]

Hey, for the sp characters prometheus, chrono navi, starburst and eden, is ranking them SS enough or should I aim for SSS?

[shell basin]

mostly rn the biggest advice is to save your crystals for thursday when new banner drops and to work on getting coralie + wep to support them

[shell basin]

Prometheus is honestly okay at A rank, tho S and SS are better. Eden wants S iirc and has niche benefit up to SSS but will function fine. Sugary Starburst needs SS to be better than Reverist Calico. CHrono Navi needs SS to work well but isn't needed per se herself

[hidden cave]

Wait what do you mean chrono navi isn't needed, isn't she a good p1 team fire support?

[shell basin]

yeah just checked, SS eden gives more SP and SSS gives better para support but

[shell basin]

She's a good fire support but her cycle is really long

[sweet flax]

do you already have vbm at SSS?

[shell basin]

so if your dps is good enough a faster support with worse buffs will often work better

[hidden cave]

I have fully geared raven and azure for my dea anchora fire team, wouldn't chrono replace azure?

[sweet flax]

replaced by sparkle and p1 fire is non-existant at this point in time

[hidden cave]

Almost, that's why I wanna see who to invest in when done

[hidden cave]

P1 fire still exists in MY household lol is fully geared raven and azure enough?

[outer spruce]

chrono replaces raven in that team anyway

[sweet flax]

you'd rather use cn over ma, ma sucks

no hotr? then ye ae works ig

[midnight nexus]

I don't quite understand.

[hidden cave]

So the team i should try is dea anchora, azure and chrono?

[sweet flax]

do you have shakespear: adrift stig?

otherwise da will never get enough sp

[hidden cave]

Nerp, just bis gear for dea, raven and azure, no gear for chrono

[shell basin]

Uh. Tl;dr Clear Story, Join an Armada, do starter manual. Those are your first three priorities if you're just starting.

[outer spruce]

Shakespeare adrift is for dea

[hidden cave]

Oh that's what its called? I had a different name in my head lol

[sweet flax]

without sparkle, you cant generate enough sp for using her ult conistently unless you have shakespear: adrift 3pc (for da)

[hidden cave]

I guess I have the 3pc lol forgot what the name was

So do I just keep the team I currently have?

[sweet flax]

ye, da cn ae

[midnight nexus]

oke thanks

[sweet flax]

honestly im not sure what stig set you could use on cn with good uptime unless you go aslaug and ult last before swapping into da? but then ae breach buffs would run out iirc

[hidden cave]

Replace raven with chrono, will do. Should I give chrono calisto pri arm weapon? And what stigmatas can I give her?

[sweet flax]

purana? ye that works
as for stigs turg tb + mei m/aslaug m is an option
aslaug 3pc is another option

[hidden cave]

I'll try aslaug 3pc and see how azure buff lasts, otherwise will do the turg set

[sweet flax]

just make sure cn is at least SS so that sp issues are somewhat resolved

(basically doubles the amount of sp da restores)

[hidden cave]

Mhmm, will do

[upbeat egret]

asu is not sleeping

[sweet flax]

[upbeat egret]

What a good worker

[sweet flax]

im staring at vita respectfully on the second monitor

hard to sleep

[upbeat egret]

[warped geyser]

i have fully geared sparkle and vita, almost enough xtals for 2 s rank and gears guaranteed, also b chips, who should i pull for (ik i need to pull dragoon)

[warped geyser]

also should i get an astralop, i only have ss dreamseeker

[outer spruce]

no, astral ops are not worth pulling for unless you plan to stay in nirvana. Dreamseeker is good enough for Red Lotus and below

the only recommended pull is dragon coralie

and her weapon of course

[warped geyser]

ty, should i pull paws if she returns, or reign solaris? or just continue saving for ely etc

[quick birch]

Generally backpulling is not recommended especially for chars who are already several patches old like RS

Also note that we have no official info about the 8.5 valk yet

[warped geyser]

i backpulled sparkle and vita because i came back to the game after multiple years without knowledge oopsie..

for bp should i save for sena or wait for another p2 valk, or try for both

[outer spruce]

sena's not compatible with new characters

[warped geyser]

so save for an upcoming p2? i know that bp has slightly outdated valks but i want value out of my money😭

[outer spruce]

just save

[warped geyser]

okok

ty vro

[lime talon]

confused why diff colors

nvm i upgraded something and it changed

[sour valve]

is there a way to get the Elysia ELF rn?

I have some box to get 77(?) puzzle pieces but it’s not enough

[ancient needle]

ELFs are only possible to get from big spending events

The one in 8.4 is a mini

[sour valve]

Aww

[ancient needle]

Gotta wait until 8.5 (expected to be anni)

[sour valve]

oh okay

apparently my boxes are from “2025 Radiant Jade” anniversary thingy

[acoustic rover]

Hi please help use my code 15847537HD

[ancient needle]

Gotta use #invite-links-here

[delicate needle]

How do I get divine key? Story?

[shell basin]

You can get 5 of them from realms of battle

[storm lantern]

realms of battle/foundry/bp/gacha

[shell basin]

1 from foundry, 1 from exchange shop, like 4 in reserve works (soon 5)

[ancient needle]

Exchange Shop 🤓

[shell basin]

And the rest are unavailable

Until they rerun or an event

[storm lantern]

u get it by converting foundry weapons!!

[delicate needle]

Easiest is foundry?

[shell basin]

Easiest is realms of battle

[ancient needle]

Yes, but most of them are useless without their limited counterparts

Depends on what you mean by "easiest" ig

[shell basin]

You can lite it and get 1 free a week until you have all 5. Then foundry pledge of Sakura, then exchange shop Judah, then reserve works

[storm lantern]

abyss and fhp aren't going to be relevant for 9 patches since you can get other dkeys

[shell basin]

Which has An Atu / Twins of Eden / Abyss Flower (requires abyss from foundry) / Fenghuang Down (Requires Fenghuang pinions from foundry)

[storm lantern]

rather than their counterparts that actually give you atk when you have both

[shell basin]

And soon will have seven thunders

Technically next patch there’s also HoFi dkey in gacha (not worth unless you have built trio or are a whale) and and a selector in the spending event

[ancient needle]

(the best pick from the selector is XY Sword, it's notorious for being hella rare)

[shell basin]

Just watch they will give XY sword for free in 8.5-

[ancient needle]

[storm lantern]

can't you keep the box

[shell basin]

Yeah

[ancient needle]

Yeah, just wanted to say that

I meant that if you have to pick

[shell basin]

Second best in there is I think the star of Eden one? And then everything else in it is farmable right

[ancient needle]

Brick

[shell basin]

Ah right thanks

[storm lantern]

i guess i did open a dkey box for an immediate attack increase and actually didn't regret it

[ancient needle]

SoE:AE came out in 6.1

It should be added relatively soon

While Brick came out in 7.0

[delicate needle]

Any easy way to get this I’m lvl 55 and it feel so gated.

[ancient needle]

Not really, it is a limited resource

The main sources are Starter Manual, MA and events

[slim blaze]

Suffering from success

[delicate needle]

Lame.

[slim blaze]

Maybe you got too lucky from your weapon rolls?

[ancient needle]

Buying them from Supply Shop is not recommended

I assume you don't have any dupe stigs since you're asking this question?

[delicate needle]

Yea I have paws full set

[ancient needle]

Just making sure

[delicate needle]

Started after a couple of years on a fresh account and pulled her

[storm lantern]

you can get some from p2 story and voyage log has old events with some

but as mentioned it's a pretty gated resource

[ruby canyon]

someone stop me from getting vita

should i pull for coralie dragon instead?

[odd plume]

no need to rush, at lv 55, you dont need high lv gear

[thick bolt]

!faq pullvita

[small willow]

Vita

Despite being a must-pull on her release, Vita is no longer recommended to pull for.

This is due to a combination of factors:

• New releases take priority.
• Vita cannot support Grail of Infinitude or future ring types.
• She is not best in Wheel of Destiny teams unless ranked.
• In Law of Ascension teams, she is typically not BiS but it depends on the boss/team.
• Vita DPS relies heavily on HoFi (with Waxing Moon equipped) and is not shilled frequently.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[ruby canyon]

considering i dont have any proper fire dps (other than fire Rita) should i rly go for corallieee waaaa

[odd plume]

just do what you really want, it's a game, dont regret it tho

[ruby canyon]

mannn

nvm im not getting her after all

with 37 pity

im so unlucky waaaa

[ancient needle]

How are your funds?

Ah, dead broke I assume

Well, any one-time crystal sources of note?

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[ruby canyon]

im so broke

why are there so many people sending me dms "where did u get that sora avatar?"

[ancient needle]

If it is Sora on your pfp you can include the link in your bio if you have it

[ruby canyon]

Wait how-

[ancient needle]

How what exactly

[ruby canyon]

I mean i do have it

Ion where it came from

I don't know where it came from*

[wet root]

is there any basic stig worth dupes other than gluttony t?

[ancient needle]

Nah

[mental python]

Am i supposed to build every valk to get the upgrade rewards? Or does the game equip them all with some sort of default build
Should i just go for easier difficulties when attempting to grab crystals this way?

[quick birch]

For the first few levels you can just play shallow sequence which also gives additional crystals there you'll get a trial version. For the remaining levels playing on a lower difficulty and just lite -> defeat the boss -> finalize -> repeat should be enough

You can Throw random stat sticks onto the valks for the lite clears lower difficulties are really squishy

[mental python]

So i actually just play "Void" difficulty? Also i didn'T know about shallow sequence, thanks! I'll start with that

[shell basin]

you can do void lite, clear the first boss, quit and finalize

that's about 110 of their upgrade currency a run

and really easy to do

[mental python]

Oh it is really easy Ty! One last question: do i need to level each valk up to a specific level? I saw the boss is easy but idk if there is a penalty for not being up in level. Gotta farm as many crystals as possible for the incoming patch

[ancient needle]

You get 50 xtals for lvl 5 (you get that while doing Shallow), 50 for lvl 10 and 100 for lvl 15

[mental python]

Oh sorry i meant valk level.. like bringing them to level 80 before starting

[ancient needle]

Ah

ER automatically makes your valks lvl 80 with maxed skills

It doesn't affect their gear though

So you don't need to upgrade the valks and their skills at all

[mental python]

Oh that's convenient! Thank you

[slim blaze]

Whats even more convenient is var arms

[fallen furnace]

Will the new coralie be good??

[sweet flax]

as a support for the rings she can support, yes
as a dps, will have weathers during her patch but might not be as many cases as her support use cases

[abstract sequoia]

To add onto that, her support for rings for which she has tags for are better than for those where she doesn't. This is a general thing for Rite of Oblivion valks

[sweet flax]

to be fair that was implied with "for the rings she can support"

although I guess technically she can support all rings

[abstract sequoia]

Technically Vita didn't die for GoI, but she is just suboptimal

a returning player wouldn't be too screwed when having her, still being able to use her to get back

[restive musk]

started the game .this is the second day .. i am saving crystals for now for next patch as i was told so ... and i have plenty of questions

• how should i be building the team if i am to go for the next patch valk ? who are the ideal support for her ? or prettty much what should be my approach ??
• also do i have to go for her weqpon stigma and everything ? if so how much crystal does i exaxlty need ?
  -and how do i get an astral op ? is there a gacha banner for that too ??

[rugged compass]

Regarding the astralop question, dreamseeker is more than enough, you only worry about Astralops in nirvana.

Nirvana is an abyss rank*

[quick birch]

1. Once you have next patche's valk use VBm and VBs as her supports both are free in the asterite shop and VBm's weapon + herself are also free in p2 story that you need to play a bit for the starter manual anyway. Check pins for the glossary for abbreviations
2. Yes, weapons and stigmatas are non negotiable though prism stigmatas are craftable from release on and weapon pity is 60 pulls so if you hit pity it's 40,6k crystals since the banner has a discount on the first 10x pull

[rugged compass]

A2 -> A3 -> RL -> Nirvana -> Myraid

[amber finch]

erm ackshually

🤓

[rugged compass]

[odd plume]

good astralop is gacha only, only needed for top 100
for next valk, you need A rank Coralie and 1 other support, but no good option for you except pulling more, can use TA or so in the meantime i guess

[amber finch]

issok ily

[rugged compass]

Ily too

[quick birch]

coralie's 3/3 leader bonus is pretty nice so VBs will probably be the best option with a bit of ele and ele vuln buffs + stellar drain

[odd plume]

can vbs trigger her 3/3?

[quick birch]

yeah every unit protected by an astral ring can if the leader is RoO

currently all RoO DPSs just have additional passives that specifically want RoO units in the team

[quick birch]

note that while pulling the weapon it's extremly likely you'll get all 3 stigmatas and dupes

[restive musk]

so the max gems for the guaranteed stigma weapons and valk is 40.6k ..

[quick birch]

yeah though 30k is already a 75% chance to get the valk 4/4

and beginners can afford a 4/4 valk 2 patches b2b

[restive musk]

i see i am at 8k for now ..

and so in the asterite shop i should focus on VBs And VBm ?? right ?

[quick birch]

just keep playing and you'll accumulate more and more crystals if you're wondering where to get some extra crystals check one time crystal sources in pins

[quick birch]

you can keep VBs at a/S rank for now though focus on getting VBm to SSS also check asterite investment list in pins

[quick birch]

just for reference the leader buff and an additional leader passive

[restive musk]

sorry but i cant find a way to see abbreviation .. help me

[sweet flax]

are you checking here?

[restive musk]

thanks

[stark locust]

For pure f2p does we able to secure character and 4/4 the equipment(mainly the signature weapon)? Per patch(as honkai have slower patch releases on all server)

[restive musk]

ok so i get S helia and focus on coralie in the asterite shop

[amber finch]

wouldnt say you can do that every patch even with the 9-10 weeks patches

[ancient needle]

Well, you get ~20-25k per patch, and a valk + weap costs ~22k on average

[ancient needle]

If there is a double release and/or you get unlucky you could have issues

[amber finch]

this is still very optimistic assuming you dont just get shafted dunked on by hoyo

[stark locust]

thankiu I thought we may have enough xtal somehow with slower patch overall duration

[ancient needle]

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[amber finch]

you technically do like teammate said but i wouldnt rely on it that hard

[stark locust]

So f2p still need to save and plan before pulling

[amber finch]

yep

gotta make the best decision possible before pulling

[ancient needle]

Actually a bit lower than 22k cuz the first 10x is discounted

[amber finch]

btw we got 5 free cards for 8.3 right

i cant remember if i used them or not

[stark locust]

....

[amber finch]

wiar a second is predown already out

[quick birch]

nah we have 2 from the log in but we should get 5 battlesuit cards and 5 equipment cards in 8.4

[amber finch]

hmghe

[stark locust]

Sadge I skipped helia, didn't have any xtal because I used all for sushang

How do you guys think about helia worth overall? Is it worth to consider going forward(maybe getting her on rerun)

I can still clear stuff meant for helia team with alternatives but the score is so cope

[quick birch]

we still don't know how good helia will be as a GoI support once another one comes out but considering what the next patches will probably be not really, coralie is a really good support in both GoI and LoA and 8.5 is cn ani which normally has a really strong valk

and backpulling is generally not recommended overall

[sweet flax]

generally speaking unless you have a crap ton of crystals and its in a dead patch, you should always look to avoid backpulling

[stark locust]

Hmm nice advice, I'll keep this on my mind. She is within my preference waifuwise...but my xtal situation is hopeless

I guess I keep on saving(only have 30k xtal rn)

[amber finch]

i swear i saw a message here

[sweet flax]

did you now

[amber finch]

shit down

[sweet flax]

what other direction does shit go in?

[amber finch]

up

oh there’s the reason to my delusion

[opal ingot]

Why Lyoz delete link to free Mr Beast 250,000 USD giveaway? Wants us to be forever poor?

[shadow gyro]

no need jst be mr beast urself

[restive musk]

should i be doing be part 2 story before completing the part 1 itself ?? the starter mannuals says to do the chapter 1 of part 2 ??

[ancient needle]

Part 2 and Part 1 are mostly not connected until Chapter 3-EX of P2 story
It's 100% fine to play whatever Starter Manual requires rn

[sweet flax]

Starter manual won't force you beyond the later point of chapter 1

Both missions in the manual for p2 are in chapter 1 (near the mid way point)

[sweet flax]

so much scem

[vivid horizon]

and you want to do p2 ch1 early anyway for coralie wep

[prisma oyster]

whats the fastest er clear time u can do with lite

[amber finch]

saw a 1:37 run

with mobius

[thick bolt]

17 seconds

https://b23.tv/JfJ4tnN

[amber finch]

oh we’re talking older er

[thick bolt]

oh forgot the 30 seconds stage again ||(tbf they asked fastest lite )||

but yeah 1-2 mins in ER time is a safe bet like ches said, irl time about 10-15 mins give or take

[amber finch]

yeah fair

i just assumed that they were talking abt current er with the 30s stage

[thick bolt]

you're more accurate anw

[amber finch]

[prisma oyster]

holy shit

[upper oracle]

How copium is s2 lv s2 hotr and sss CE for current RL

Would thelema be better?

[shadow gyro]

you dont have any sd valk aside from ce?

[upper oracle]

I left right after thelema and came back like 3 weeks ago and haven't pulled

[sweet flax]

[shadow gyro]

ig you can try that lv team otherwise bruteforcing with ur recent team might be better...

[upper oracle]

I was told to wait for next patch or the patch after next to pull? Not sure how accurate that is

[sweet flax]

do you even have supports for thelema

[upper oracle]

Nor do I know who to pull for

[upper oracle]

Uh I got 3/4 sena and 4/4 coralie

[sweet flax]

that's the general recommendation yes, next patch is gonna be a good unit to pull and the patch after is cn ani, and generally speaking cn ani valks have always been strong

[sweet flax]

gonna take that as a no then

[upper oracle]

Oh is that not her team

[sweet flax]

sena is a part of her team, but coralie doesnt have the ring tag to support her, she just contributes to the leader skill

[upper oracle]

Who in place of coralie

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

well best would be vita, but vita isnt worth pulling, so in the future if you get a unit with shadow star tag you'd use that

[upper oracle]

Ok

[sweet flax]

you can try thel, but I dont think its gonna work out especially in rl

[lyric anvil]

@frozen crypt

[upper oracle]

Did bro get hacked

[shadow gyro]

dont click

[upper oracle]

Does it do smth if I click

[lyric anvil]

Bold of them to post in this channel

[upper oracle]

Ah

[sweet flax]

bot goes to every channel where they have perms

[shadow gyro]

u even have 3/4 sena, had u had the wp u would have run sena team but oh well its ok now

[upper oracle]

What happens if I clicked one

[sweet flax]

those links could also be ip grabbers

[upper oracle]

Oh

[sweet flax]

have to be careful on the internet

[shadow gyro]

i dont trust these spam so better be save than sorry

[upper oracle]

[thick bolt]

you become the next one on the chopping block

[upper oracle]

[upper oracle]

I'm assuming not worth backpull weap

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[upper oracle]

Who do I pull for next patch?

Dragon Cora?

[sweet flax]

well anyways back on topic, try lv team, if it doesnt work you could try something stupid like ce dps
imma test out thel rq though since my dsa is also wpless

[lyric anvil]

Senaded
Her weather's are gonna become less frequent

[upper oracle]

Okok

[sweet flax]

what weathers

[quick birch]

not like she has any

[shadow gyro]

i mean its in bp, not sure if its worth if u pay for bp...

[lyric anvil]

True lol

Badum took them all

[shadow gyro]

sena dps is extremely rare tho

[sweet flax]

even the resonance guaymas weather was cleared faster by badum

[shadow gyro]

so prob no

[lyric anvil]

Fish skip

[sweet flax]

[sweet flax]

tbh my 2 cents are
get the dkeys since those will benefit you permanently, then do whatever you want with the rest
albeit preferably the gear that can enable some nicher teams

no point rushing those gear since the valks are useless 80%+ of the time

im assuming this is gonna be best cleared by fdd?

[upper oracle]

Tis bricked 421 score

Can probably push to 500 cuz i missed a qte but

[sweet flax]

ye... kind of cooked

disturbance is too high for p1 cope

[upper oracle]

I'll try thelema cope

Would helia be better than cora

[sweet flax]

no

coralie gives a point towards thel leader skill and is roo so her buffs will apply regardless of ring

[upper oracle]

Ok

[distant spoke]

How to get seven retribution rumble

[sweet flax]

unobtainable at the moment

[quick birch]

yes

i've also seen some LoA shit but every team had fdd in it

[lyric anvil]

||7T will be in BP permanently next patch||

[sweet flax]

sena is wpless here

[lyric anvil]

517

[sweet flax]

imma need to go practice fish skipping again

[quick birch]

fishing in RL is crazy

[upper oracle]

I think I'm playing her wrong I only got 317

[sweet flax]

technically promoting to nirv next patch soo.... lets call it valuable life skill

[lyric anvil]

I'm hopeful I promote back to RL for next patch

[storm lantern]

why

not like the tech u do in rl matters either way

only reason to do more than 1 run is personal satisfaction

[quick birch]

fair tbh

[sweet flax]

idk seeing score go up even a bit brings satisfaction to me

also how exactly is evade fish done

[storm lantern]

normal fish skip but replace jump with evade

[quick birch]

dw i get it i malded with paws on hellmaru for like 6 hours when my score 1 hour in would have been enough to promo lmao

timing is a bit tighter though

[amber finch]

what kan said and i saw sm1 saying to rebind jump and eva if you’re having a hard time with it

[upper oracle]

Maybe I just tank the demote and rank up next abyss

What is next abyss weather anyways

[storm lantern]

ignite benares i think

there's a boss schedule in #💁gameplay-help pins

[lyric anvil]

Yep

[lyric anvil]

8.4 ain't there yet

[storm lantern]

you can change the patch

[amber finch]

50 more days smh

[lyric anvil]

It's this week

[amber finch]

yeah its in september 2026

[lyric anvil]

[lone crater]

during qte eva twice then just learn the timing for hold atk and swap
if u doing it after ulti, u can eva twice when ult about to end and repeat but othterwise just not doing that and just eva hold atk and swap is fine too

[sweet flax]

I mean score went up a shit ton so I guess it worked

[quick birch]

tf was your score before that

[sweet flax]

804

[quick birch]

[sweet flax]

im a slaccer

[quick birch]

non sonkek runs can score higher than that smh

[storm lantern]

819 when

[sweet flax]

too lazy someone else do it for me

[quick birch]

naur

[storm lantern]

i tried to get 819 with ds but no ari

for some reason i couldnt get any by evading in transition which i still dont understand how

[quick birch]

cuz hoyo indie

pls understand

[storm lantern]

1 ari per fws evade very cool hoyo

[sweet flax]

done happy now?

[storm lantern]

yes

u should outscore it somehow

[sweet flax]

what even should my score be like lmfao

[storm lantern]

idk t1 rl is 822 in na with sss teri

should be achievable with s or even ds

[sweet flax]

sss teri

[storm lantern]

but sprokle iirc

[thick bolt]

asu you have teri?

[sweet flax]

yes

[thick bolt]

I'll search rl ref, but should defo be higher, Hieu with fish skip no teri got 815 (non fish skip 809)

[sweet flax]

. . .

[quick birch]

already tried bita instead of sporkler ?

[sweet flax]

ye

[thick bolt]

oh sporkle

[sweet flax]

I think sparkle is much faster

[thick bolt]

mb

[sweet flax]

but I could try a vita run if there's a ref

although I assume its the same thing

[quick birch]

https://youtu.be/yMsuLNF5ctE?si=sFOG09VkEU4QFhId

yeah as i thought vita has like 3 secs on field time lol

[sweet flax]

the difference between ds and teri is that I wanna end p1 with fws shift right?

only issue is how to re-apply vita buffs

[quick birch]

for me that's the reason why i'm entering SO in p2

you also get insta mob link with fws stellar assault

[sweet flax]

hmm... ig I could try that but feels like it might be dmg loss idk

[storm lantern]

i think the difference is you dont have to evade in transition

[thick bolt]

818, dunno about atk diff https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GALuzTEyN/

[twilit junco]

how?

festive talk is 27/27

[thick bolt]

823 same team https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1D7FQepEzY/

[storm lantern]

that makes more sense i thought their gameplay looked suspicious

[thick bolt]

yeah the kiana wa spam was xd

[sweet flax]

weird this is similar to the run I did

but massive score diff

[storm lantern]

is they some reason they ult after immaculate duet

its just no upside but you cant kill before all the ticks go off right

[thick bolt]

need ult to finish cause ticks not enough if you're talking p2

[sweet flax]

oh wait I missread

ignore me pls

[storm lantern]

yeah obviously you ult but immaculate duet has some damage that takes longer than most of it so why not ult after you get max fortune so you can skip those ticks

also is there any downside to jump cancelling ba2

for some reason i usually only see it for badum as ws support or after shift

[deep island]

which should i get?

[shadow gyro]

#💁gameplay-help message (link to a guide)

[deep island]

thank you!

[shadow gyro]

[tawdry flax]

how do i spend the stamina? i cant figure it out, around a year ago or maybe a little less i started playing just for fun and stopped for a long time...i have no clue what im doing </3

[sweet flax]

story chapters (non-open world chapters)
expiditions

[tawdry flax]

how do i know what arent non open world?

[upbeat egret]

Be the ref

[sweet flax]

p2 is all open world,
the open world p1 chapters are chapters 26-34 iirc

[sweet flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1247440305863659530/1298608674616512553/taenyaki.gif

[deep island]

is robert peary still good to put on RC?

[sweet flax]

is this about elysian realm or general use?

[deep island]

i suppose general

[sweet flax]

cuz it offers no supportive utility for teammates, and only increases rc's personal damage

better to use theresa: gluttony T (craftable in foundry for dirt cheap) and fu hua musician M B, obtainable in your manual training shop

[deep island]

thank you! i wasn’t too sure because the guides i’ve been watching on youtube are a little outdated

[sweet flax]

there are a lot of regularly updated guides in this server that you can refer to instead, if you are unsure feel free to ask as well

[deep island]

i’ll definitely have more questions lol

[sweet flax]

that's what this channel is for

[jolly pulsar]

bookmarking for my own....purposes

[deep island]

what’s the best stigs i can put on RC as a dps? im doing it on a account idc about (ik shes old and meant for support but shes my favorite character from part 1)

i already have her bsi pri arm and the bastet t and m pieces but i’m not sure if they’re any good

[shell basin]

Willows is probably the best farmable one

But it’s expensive

Ana Schiriac is a bit cheaper and a a bit worse, and Peary cheaper yet but worse (you can turn Peary into Ana into willows)

[sweet flax]

would keep in mind that willows will be directly craftable next patch

[deep island]

hm 🤔 thank you! what about her team?

[sweet flax]

jk kira

[shell basin]

Shigure Kira and Jade Knight probably

[deep island]

okay how should i build them as well?

[sweet flax]

oh wait you have bastet? just use that and a decent B piece

can also consider crafting the 3rd piece of bastet

[shell basin]

Turg is good

[sweet flax]

do you have any of their gear?

[deep island]

i should still keep purana though right?

[sweet flax]

yes

[deep island]

no unfortunately

[shell basin]

JST is also good for support

[sweet flax]

then one of them on turg tb and a general supportive m piece
the other on jst tm and supportive b piece

do you have nebs for jk?

since its the only other effecient sp gen glove

[deep island]

i don’t even have jk yet lol

[sweet flax]

[deep island]

i just got back into the game a few days ago

[sweet flax]

just curious by "on an account idc about" did you start fresh on another acc?

[deep island]

nah it’s my old account that barely had anything good

i already made a fresh account to play on so i can get part 2 valks

[sweet flax]

icic

[deep island]

which ones are decent? 😭

[sweet flax]

great question...

tbh im not too sure I havent really been looking at b pieces

[deep island]

so i run both jk and kira on turg? does it matter which one gets tm or tb?

[sweet flax]

one on turg, turg's effects cannot stack

[deep island]

yeah i was just reading the skills and wanted to ask to make sure

thank you sm again for answering my questions!

[shy kiln]

choice doesnt really matter here right?

[lyric anvil]

Purana is recommended to get

[shy kiln]

word

[thick bolt]

checked comments, dist at 498 for the run

[quick birch]

lower than EU tf

Is that a3

[thick bolt]

from Feb

but is lotus

[thick bolt]

honestly can't find a concrete reason but in both cases from what I tested you may need those extra ticks for the clean kill either way, maybe dist reason?

(also sorry for the late response, internet outage mid convo)

[toxic crag]

Should I get HoSenti or HoR first from war treasury?

nvm, the use different currency

[shell basin]

Yeah. And HoS is the best pick in al but it’s not by that much

There’s a war treasury priority list but it’s not a very strong priority

[lyric anvil]

Mainly the ones that are in ER

Or better reworded: WT Valks that can be used in ER

[shell basin]

Yeah. But even then you’ll get the crystals eventually it’s just sooner is better

[deep island]

should i use my new accounts crystals on fdd since she’s the most recent?

[shell basin]

How many do you have?

Can you guarentee her weapon? But yes almost certainly

[odd plume]

pull the new valk after update

[shell basin]

Just if you have like 5k save before you roll on her character banner

Because you don’t want to get valk without weapon

[deep island]

i have almost 9k right now

[shell basin]

I think beginners can justify rolling early if they’re going to be active because even wepless valk can still improve their account but only if you’re definitely going to be active enough to get the weapon

[odd plume]

unless you dont play, new account now can get new coralie no problem

[shell basin]

Before banner ends

[deep island]

i’ll definitely be playing

[shell basin]

Yeah. It shouldn’t be a problem if you’re active

So roll away. Will get you spending event bonus too

[deep island]

so how much would u suggest i save for both her and her weapon?

[shell basin]

Theoretically you need at most 16k for weapon and like 24k for valk so it’s usually advised for non new players to never go below 16k trying for a battlesuit

But as an active newbie go all in to get her as soon as possible

And then she can help your abyss and MA scores

[deep island]

ahh okayy

i shouldn’t go for her stigs then?

[shell basin]

Not until you roll her

Once you do go for her weapon and you’ll get her stigs along the way

But if you get her before her stigs she’s still decent and if you get her stigs but not her that’s useless

If you somehow get the weapon before the stigs you can craft them

So you aren’t screwed anyway and can stop there to save crystals

[deep island]

good to know, thank you!

what’s a decent team comp for her?

[shell basin]

If you don’t have any other gacha valks, you put her with Valkyrie Blastmetal (mini coralie) and then a cope support

Options are people like Valkyrie Boltstorm, Sugary Startburst (if SS), Reverist Calico, Chrono Navi, and Terminal Aide

Boltstorm is best

But reverist calico is free from starter manual so you might use her for a bit at first

[deep island]

what does cope mean? 😭

[shell basin]

Cope as in “this isn’t a good option but it’s the best you can do”

Blastmetal is genuinely good, the 4th best possible option

Boltstorm is like 20

Or smth, and then it gets worse from there

[deep island]

damn

[shell basin]

She’ll still be good even with cope supports tho

(Boltstorm is a part 2 battlesuit so she automatically activates FDD’s 3 part effect which is nice but she’s probably the worst part 2 battlesuit for it, especially since you won’t have her weapon or stigs)

(And don’t craft her stigs, coralie’s might be worth it but hers aren’t unless you have a ton of source prisms going spare)

[deep island]

ahh okay so i should stick with blast metal?

[shell basin]

Well you run all three on the team

Just don’t invest too much in Boltstorm and focus on getting Blastmetal ranks up

With your asterite

[deep island]

okay ty!

[shadow gyro]

worth considering anyways bc shes a good valk for p2 teams
either as a cope (better than a random p1 tho) or as a semi-bis

[shell basin]

Yeah she’s close to best for coralie and then next patch you’ll be running her as your third teammate for 8.5 valk

[shadow gyro]

example for first is if you have a p2 dps and you lack supports that fit the ring requirements
secound is as a roo option for roo dpses (vita and fdd) as they need roo valks

[shell basin]

So she’s gonna be useful for a while

Especially since her weapon is free

[deep island]

her stigs aren’t though i assume?

[shadow gyro]

they are in foundry

but u dont need to get them rn

[shell basin]

They aren’t but you can craft them for source prisms, they don’t cost crystals

You can get them later

If you decide you need a bit more damage at some point

[shadow gyro]

since youll need the mats for new valks' gear

[shell basin]

Probably avoid upgrading them though

[shadow gyro]

you can get them later when u have extra mats

[shell basin]

At least at first, even if you craft them

Yeah

[deep island]

what are my options to put on her in the mean time?

[shadow gyro]

one sec

[deep island]

take ur time!

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message

[shell basin]

Fu hua musician 2 pc is pretty good and then you can run ogier 3

Or you can craft one of the more expensive ones

[shadow gyro]

link to msg btw

[shell basin]

But those are in beginner shop so they’re cheap

And yeah click on that if u want more details

[shadow gyro]

ignore hohe if you dont have her alr btw

[deep island]

i’ve heard

you can only get her with that beginner bundle right?

[shell basin]

Or reserve works but that takes 5 patches

Which isn’t worth it because you can get divine keys there instead

[shadow gyro]

yeah + bp but the latter takes forever + u want the dkeys from that shop

[deep island]

ahh okay. are dkeys the only thing i should look out for in the shop or does other good stuff appear sometimes?

[shadow gyro]

level rush is worth it if u wanna pay with irl money and dont know where to start
but its not necessary

[shell basin]

Divine keys are the best things in reserve works

[deep island]

gotcha

[shadow gyro]

other stuff are niche, i would wait to make sure there wont be any other dkeys added there then u can get what u want

[shell basin]

There’s a couple of other technically justifiable things like characters if you have their stellar key but you shouldn’t pull for their stellar key if you don’t already have them unless you’re whaling on knight battle pass

So de facto it’s divine keys until you have them all

[deep island]

is there a guide as to which ones i should get?

[shadow gyro]

ill look for it

[shell basin]

Uh twins of Eden, An Atu, and Seven thunders are best because you don’t need to craft anything

Their counterparts are in realms of battle or are unneeded

Fenghuang down and abyss flower are a bit worse because you’ll need to spend some ether fuel to make them work

Skip Judah and Pledge of Sakura, you can get them through foundry and exchange

[deep island]

how many keys can i equip at a time?😭

[shadow gyro]

7T is next patch btw since u wont see it rn

[shell basin]

All of them, they’re passive bonuses

Yeah 7t is getting added in like 2 days

If you roll enough crystals next patch you’ll can also get a free Dkey selector, it’s best to save it but if you want it now XY sword is probably the best one

[deep island]

i’ll keep that in mind ty!

[shadow gyro]

[shell basin]

NP

[deep island]

[green gale]

Who should I select

[thick bolt]

!faq egg

[small willow]

S-Rank Valkyrie Option

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the in-depth explanation of what to choose!

Ai-chan recommends that you keep this egg until you have two from the following: Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Goushinnso Memento. When you own two, unlock the one you are still missing.

[green gale]

👍

[dry star]

Hi paws stig set says it buffs characters with Raise the Banner but I can't find where it says how to trigger something called raise the banner

Is that just the wearer?

[lyric anvil]

Check the piece 3 set bonus

On stigs

[dry star]

Weirdly it just says if Grail of infinitude is active, then all characters with Raise the Banner are buffed

But clicking on Grail of Infinitude trait description doesnt say anything about Raise the Banner

[lyric anvil]

Raise the Banner is PAWS' specific buff

[dry star]

Paws skill description for her Grail doesnt say anything about Banner either

She has a passive called I am the Banner but it doesbt mention it

[dry star]

Gotcha, is there anything we have to do specifically to trigger it? Or if i play her normally it will proc somehow

[lyric anvil]

I believe it auto procs when she's leader
It's different for LoA I think

[dry star]

Ohh okay if its a perma auto state then that answers my question

[lyric anvil]

Yeah I was reading it now

It just procs like that

[dry star]

Oh thanks I dont know how I missed that

Okay 25 sec is pretty decent amount of time

[lyric anvil]

All part 2 Valks have that in their PC 3

[dry star]

So that means that paws should be switched back in every 25 sec

[thick bolt]

Essay stig descriptions

[lyric anvil]

In LoA really

[dry star]

I think thats why I missed it I was staring at the bullet points

I play paws ps and coralie (soon to be replaced with new coralie)

[lyric anvil]

She's currently the only GoI DPS right now

You'll have a few teams

If you get lucky with FDD-

[dry star]

🫡

[amber finch]

btw you dont need to wait 25s to switch her in

just qte her in when the dps rot is over

[dry star]

Hopefully rn whenever I play content that doesnt let me repeat characters its a pain I only have ps and paws

[warped geyser]

why can't we call her behold like we call kiana badum

[amber finch]

because its a shit name

[lyric anvil]

VBm is still useful for FDD

[amber finch]

call her dragon cora or cora 2 or s cora or smt else

[lyric anvil]

I used BFDD sometimes

[warped geyser]

what's wrong with behold😭

[amber finch]

we called kiana badum bc it rolls up the tongue better

[dry star]

okay
Im not up to speed on her team rotations yet since its basically she is almost permanently always leader

[lyric anvil]

No one using behold

[amber finch]

also this is also a shit name but like eh its fun

[thick bolt]

I mean you can do it, people will just call what they prefer as long as it's clear

[amber finch]

just bc you can doesnt mean you should

most people wont understand it when you say “oh behold dps is insane”

[dry star]

would i kick ps then? Or depends on content if bleed/phys is useful

[lyric anvil]

FDD, PAWS, VBm

That's one team

[amber finch]

ps cant support fdd so thats why she’s out

[dry star]

[amber finch]

for paws dps just use ps fdd

[dry star]

Oh

[lyric anvil]

^

PS can also use FDD and PAWS

[amber finch]

erm dont ping me without my permission smh

[lyric anvil]

Switch leader depending on boss

[amber finch]

you’re getting blocked smh

[dry star]

So if ps is leader, can use fdd and paws

[amber finch]

ye

[lyric anvil]

[amber finch]

its just fdd dps that you dont want to use ps

[dry star]

Dumb question why can fdd support ps but not the other way around?

[amber finch]

wait dont stop pinging me

[lyric anvil]

AR tags

[lyric anvil]

[dry star]

Oh gotcha

[amber finch]

because fdd has the ar tag while ps doesnt

[oak estuary]

She can, just not as well as a rank cora can

[dry star]

Oki

[lyric anvil]

PAWS has special passive to where she can support FDD though

[amber finch]

its like using a helia for paws

[dry star]

Oh thats why they can work togetger

[dry star]

😭 I backpulled ps (started during paws banner) because I didnt want to use A helia..

[amber finch]

[lyric anvil]

[dry star]

Its okay I know you shouldn't backpull

Paws actually being able to trigger her Astral ring carried me so hard this patch

[ancient needle]

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[ancient needle]

Keep in mind that with RoO DPSes it's not about tags

[dry star]

Oh you are awake

Okay so just roos

[lyric anvil]

RoO wants RoO

[ancient needle]

In FDD's and Vita's case they specifically want RoO supps (FDD accepts PAWS as well cuz of her skill)

HoFi wants specifically HoO and HoTr

[dry star]

Oh FDD is roo? Do valks of older AR release every once in a while

[lyric anvil]

Makes sense
HoFi needed them before getting Stellar Key anyways

[dry star]

Gotcha
Well owning anything earlier than PS isnt an option right now anyway

[ancient needle]

Non-RoO valks can still count for the leader skill, but except A-rank Helia they provide almost (if any) no buffs to the AR types they don't have the tags for

[dry star]

Why they do A helia so dirty

Compared to A coralie

[lyric anvil]

She's only good on WS lightning

[ancient needle]

Real

A 100% free valk is still meta

Even in 8.4 a bit

[lyric anvil]

FDD would need VBm

[ancient needle]

It's not about FDD DPS

[dry star]

Shes a good filler for new account missing teammates to trigger full AR...

[lyric anvil]

Vita too?

[ancient needle]

It's about Vita DPS
Vita FDD VBm topscored Sprout

[ancient needle]

1000%

[lyric anvil]

Ah yeah
FDD makes it where Vita can 800+ sprout

[dry star]

What is sprout

[ancient needle]

An Abyss boss

[dry star]

Oh

[ancient needle]

Vita's

[lyric anvil]

One of many

[dry star]

I logged in today thinking it was finally time for fdd to come home

soon

[lyric anvil]

That'll be Thursday

A no Abyss day

[dry star]

[oak estuary]

In 26 hours 46 min, add 2 hours if its glblul

[warped geyser]

ykw now i'm calling everyone by their battlesuit namd

[dry star]

[warped geyser]

behold planar peregrine badum reign thousand lone

[lyric anvil]

[ancient needle]

Herrscher 🗿

[lyric anvil]

That'll be confusing as hell

[dry star]

Imo the herrsher of [blank] titles go harder

Despite being simpler

[warped geyser]

☠️☠️

finality origin truth sentience rebirth thunder reason flamescion human void

i feel like senti is the only socially acceptable one

[lyric anvil]

Yatta

[warped geyser]

at this point i'm doing anything waiting for 8.4😭

[dry star]

I have 30 dorm cards waiting to be used
I never even got my 30 pull S rank from dorm supply yet

Waiting for 8.4

[oak estuary]

Would save those for the big spend event thats probably in 8.5 instead

[warped geyser]

every time i get one i just pull😭

[dry star]

Ain't no way

These patches are SO LONG

[warped geyser]

do u guys know which valk will be in it

[oak estuary]

Nope

[warped geyser]

i got 67k xtals saved so i should be good

[dry star]

You got to have diamond hands brother and resist the gambling

[lyric anvil]

Not until next week

[warped geyser]

i do just not for dorm supply

[dry star]

Okay fair

[warped geyser]

the veteran in me yearns for the aponia i wanted since release

and silverwing

[lyric anvil]

Me who has Aponia from Dorm

[warped geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-demons-gif-27515744

i remember wanting villv so bad

[dry star]

Do they release info for 8.5 already in the first week of 8.4?

[warped geyser]

it's so tempting to just buy her from reserve works

i wonder when the next top up event is since we just had one

[ancient needle]

Yes

At the end of the first week

[warped geyser]

wait til i get my money right

u guys have any guesses who it'll be

[ancient needle]

And doing your 20 pulls next patch is good

There's enough time to save up 10 more for 8.5

[lyric anvil]

End of first week, start of second week

[dry star]

[warped geyser]

how much do u need to spend to get all the rewards for the mini and the big spending events

[lyric anvil]

Not really

[warped geyser]

i'm pretty sure u can't get all but ykwim

[abstract sequoia]

next mini

[warped geyser]

i feel like it'd be teri or lantern just a guess

[dry star]

[lyric anvil]

||Seele, Dreamseeker, or Elysia for 8.5 are my guesses||

[upbeat egret]

Latern skin will rip

[dry star]

Is... || dkey or synergy better to get? (If I only have the beginner dkeys)||

[lyric anvil]

||DKey box||

Xys sword rare

[dry star]

oki

[abstract sequoia]

||synergies are definitely not worth more||

[shadow gyro]

#hi3-twitter-feed message do u need to spoiler?

[dry star]

I was just copying everyone else

[shadow gyro]

[dry star]

Gotcha ty

[upbeat egret]

Patch is tomorrow anyway

[abstract sequoia]

right

soe will be wine

i mean mine

[dry star]

We could use some wine too while waiting

[lyric anvil]

I would like to get brick but I'm forced to get Xys sword

[abstract sequoia]

nah i get headaches from wine

[gloomy acorn]

Omg brick in the box

[dry star]

Its that rare that some of yall dont have it yet

[gloomy acorn]

Wait is spending event a choice between dkey box and outfit or are they separate rewards

[lyric anvil]

Xys sword is extremely rare

[dry star]

[shadow gyro]

if xys wasnt there i would have picked brick
not that i have the gear or team for it so its just more for yatta n its the most recent from the list

[lyric anvil]

Also I haven't played Hi3 that long

[abstract sequoia]

im still going to take my chances and go for soe:ae

[dry star]

It looks like you can get both with 20 dorm and 40k xtal?

[upbeat egret]

You are skipping xy sword?

[gloomy acorn]

[abstract sequoia]

yes

[upbeat egret]

Why ram?

[lyric anvil]

Even though it has a high chance to be free permanently in BP relatively soon?

[gloomy acorn]

Oh wait nvm it's lantern outfit I thought it was songlema

[oak estuary]

Ive been playing for 2 years, xys been obtainable like thrice, next patch gonna be 4th

[abstract sequoia]

you know why

[oak estuary]

[dry star]

[upbeat egret]

Explain pls maybe i forgot something?

[lyric anvil]

HoR

[abstract sequoia]

im aware of the potential consequences

[gloomy acorn]

🧱

Eh surely 10 atk doesn't make or break your runs :clueless:

[abstract sequoia]

it was my wish since I got HoR as my first egg choice

[upbeat egret]

Oh SOE is hor dk right?

[dry star]

A true believer

[abstract sequoia]

yep

the only one i truly desired

[lyric anvil]

SoE: AE and SoE: World

[upbeat egret]

Ok i understand now...go for it then

[oak estuary]

Watch as ram picks drift key and drift key comes to reserve bp the next patch

[abstract sequoia]

and if I'll have to wait for another year to get dxy, so be it

[oak estuary]

[upbeat egret]

AE?

[oak estuary]

Anti-entrophy

[gloomy acorn]

Non pri probs

[lyric anvil]

Anti Entropy

[abstract sequoia]

i mean how long till we know that for sure

[upbeat egret]

What is that?

[lyric anvil]

[oak estuary]

Iirc week 2 or week 3 into the patch

[ancient needle]

Wtf

[abstract sequoia]

ah, then I'll just keep the dk box until then

[upbeat egret]

I am too old man.. I forgot all those early stuff

[shadow gyro]

ig if u wanna wait a bit but cant wait by keeping the box alone then u can wait for 8.5 news

[lyric anvil]

Did you forgor story?

[abstract sequoia]

if no news, i will open it

[shadow gyro]

sure

[abstract sequoia]

still need willows anyway

[dry star]

Don't bully they're retired

[upbeat egret]

Imagine doing story+ i am retired

[ancient needle]

Myriad T50 is not "retired"

[dry star]

[abstract sequoia]

how long would i farm for this anyway...

[gloomy acorn]

For asalao it's retired

[lyric anvil]

Fair

[gloomy acorn]

T1 is the usual

[upbeat egret]

This is only because EU is slack....but still better than NA

[abstract sequoia]

i get like 3/10 time warp attemps

maybe 4 idk

[upbeat egret]

[dry star]

[abstract sequoia]

based on the mirage table, 15.6700 fuel per attempt right?

[ancient needle]

!faq mirage

[small willow]

Universal Mirage

Hi Captain!

See [here](#👶beginner-help message) For the Universal Mirage farming priority list!

Regarding Efficient Ether Fuel Farming (assumes you convert all stones into fuel):

F1: 10 per entry ticket + 0.6000 per 1 TSP
F2: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6333 per 1 TSP
F3: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6428 per 1 TSP
F4: 13 per entry ticket + 0.6500 per 1 TSP
F5: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6666 per 1 TSP
F6: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6700 per 1 TSP - (best efficiency!)
F7: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6600 per 1 TSP

If not using Time Swirl Passes (TSP), F5/6/7 are equal in efficiency.

[warped geyser]

skipidi

[ancient needle]

You don't spend 1 TSP

[ancient needle]

Okay, please don't flood the channel

[warped geyser]

sowwy

[ancient needle]

Thx