#👶beginner-help

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tall flax
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okay im done for this weather

fallen shale
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What does the combo counter do?

naive pivot
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not sure aside from buffs based around it in ER and maybe a few really old stigma effects LanternHeavyThoughts

fallen shale
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Cause some things reset it and I'm not sure what the point is lol

viral torrent
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also wow this channel is dead I haven’t been around here in a bit

strong void
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is BP works vintage going away next patch?

fallen shale
merry solar
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hello, I am kinda new, but is no pulling possible to do all content? (except endgame)

haughty elbow
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yes

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no need to gacha at all if all ur doing is basic content

merry solar
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okay, thanks

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is there somewhere where I can see some sample teams on all free char btw?

haughty elbow
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cant use ur own chars in story anyways

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its all trial chars

merry solar
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I see

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thanks for the info

ancient needle
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There also are achievements for reaching a certain combo amount (up to 1k)

burnt veldt
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@ancient needle I had to restart another time since the scc i made i didn't use for a long time so I didn't get starter manual

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But i created another and already got a 10 pull

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But God dam the

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THE STARTE RMANUAL GOVES SO MUCH

frozen crypt
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Yep

dire dragon
burnt veldt
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YEYEYEYEYEYEE

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LI SUSHANG I AM COMING

abstract sequoia
fallen shale
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So that's the point at which the combo counter resets?

abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
fallen shale
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I see

abstract sequoia
# abstract sequoia

and seeing that the skill says maximum effective counter is 150, it's safe to say that this is what you should aim for

gritty current
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Hello

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What of the two special Valkyrie should i pull from the starter supply?

quick birch
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none, if you are new its best to prioritise peregrine sword (sushang) and her weapon

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otherwise feel free to ask any questions that you have VitaWave

gritty current
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Alr tnx

fallen shale
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what's the deal with sim battle? Is it basically just a trial mode?

thick bolt
fallen shale
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so it's abyss but easy?

thick bolt
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MA but easy

fallen shale
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oh yeah I gotta make some new MA teams now

naive pivot
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dead game mode PeepoGlad

fallen shale
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I do have JK now so I may be able to do a proper hohe team this time

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and finally liberate coralie from dpsing HimekoLMAO

naive pivot
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JK without an SP regen weapon is pain PeepoGlad

fallen shale
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how is she with grips of tai xuan

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or if no is there a craftable I should look for

naive pivot
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no good craftables exist but if you have 4k blue resonance and have already bought judah you can try nebulous duality although that's still rather ass on her Weirdga

fallen shale
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TA is holding nebulous rn

naive pivot
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i would know from experience back when i tried to do that before i had a real ice team Weirdga

fallen shale
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would JK want neb more than TA?

outer haven
naive pivot
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well TA doesn't need SP so yeah probably Weirdga

fallen shale
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enjoy your new grips prom

abstract sequoia
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thats what I ran on JK for a while

fallen shale
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where do I get that

naive pivot
sweet flax
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VitaPopcorn please don't go out of your way for dos

fallen shale
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ok well

abstract sequoia
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i was just asking how it is, not suggesting it

fallen shale
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neb wep, what stigs?

naive pivot
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yeah i mean it's JK in 2025, she's not gonna do much regardless of the weapon anymore SenadinaStare

abstract sequoia
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true true

sweet flax
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Or turg tb mei m if owned

fallen shale
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where do I get jst

storm lantern
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theres that one horrible stig set with 10% on 3pc or scott ig

storm lantern
fallen shale
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oh

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I also don't have turgenev

storm lantern
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better stuff to spend the mats on but you can get it eventually

abstract sequoia
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roald is so ass

naive pivot
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when i forget to buy my weekly WT frags derp

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and scott is a DPS set Stare

storm lantern
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yeah however

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the alternative is roald

naive pivot
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or you know, gluttony fu hua musician Stare

fallen shale
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is ogier good

naive pivot
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nOMEGALUL

fallen shale
abstract sequoia
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could also do a funny with scott TM rasputin B

fallen shale
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I'd need to get another gluttony

naive pivot
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having at least 2 gluttonys is a good idea from what i've heard anyway so might as well gatostare

fallen shale
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actually cora is using that entire set you just described lmfao

naive pivot
abstract sequoia
fallen shale
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kinda sounds like I'm in cope land eitherway

abstract sequoia
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take what you can get then i guess

naive pivot
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yeah that's what early game MA tends to be it seems TeriRip

abstract sequoia
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MA involves foundry a lot either way

fallen shale
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this is what I'm working with rn

naive pivot
fallen shale
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I'm young I'm sorry

abstract sequoia
fallen shale
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lemme check

naive pivot
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i forgot how much of a meme early game was TeriRip

fallen shale
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2

abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
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you need to upgrade sus gear first

fallen shale
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sus gear?

abstract sequoia
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ps gear

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actually, maybe not even that

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the final upgrades are a bit expensive, better you save to craft the next 3pc set of a valk

sweet flax
fallen shale
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I mean she's one shotting the MA boss

abstract sequoia
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yeah then no need to invest in her now

fallen shale
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the issue rn is that there is a second boss who also needs to be bullied

abstract sequoia
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save those prisms to make more 3pc sets, do upgrades later

fallen shale
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and it seems like only Hohe and Cora are able to bully

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last time I gave up on hohe and just threw cora at the problem lol

sweet flax
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Are you pulling hohe dkey?

fallen shale
sweet flax
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It's an equipment banner

fallen shale
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I mean I'm not terribly interested in hohe long term

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I just need someone to bully this MA boss rn

sweet flax
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Makes sense but the dkey's main use is permanent bonues via tuning which is why i asked

fallen shale
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well no I don't have any plans to atm

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is helia a dps?

storm lantern
sweet flax
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Vbs? No
||next patch? Well ye all p2 s rank valks are dps and supps||

fallen shale
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I'm still wondering why the asterite list put her so high prio only for no one to recommend I use her for anything HimekoLMAO

storm lantern
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has someone compiled 1 time source prism sources

fallen shale
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damn is that her job

sweet flax
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Dorm levels via ranking her

fallen shale
sweet flax
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Cope p2 supp alternative for ws

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Her weapon was also available for free, chances are it happens again

fallen shale
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so if I end up getting badum she could be a cope teammate

sweet flax
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Fuck no

naive pivot
sweet flax
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Fws is not ws or lightning

fallen shale
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lmao?

sweet flax
fallen shale
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sorry I confused myself cause she has WS in the name

sweet flax
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Also its free and farmable

naive pivot
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so what's the main reason then Stare

storm lantern
fallen shale
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okok so

sweet flax
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I gave multiple, helia is shit in a meta perspective

naive pivot
sweet flax
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There's 0 value to her outside multiple small common things among which I just mentioned

fallen shale
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for MA best I can do is either run hohe with some cope bs on JK

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or I give up and run cora dps again

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also I have haxxor bunny is that of any use here

sweet flax
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Hohe jk rc/kira
Anything else is too far in copeland

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In terms of p1 ice teams with no gear

fallen shale
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also hohe is still on light string lmfao

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oh I ran out of coins

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so which boss should I nuke with PS and which boss should I cope at with hohe

sweet flax
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Prio goes to boss one who has additional points on it

fallen shale
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this is how hohe did on training mode

naive pivot
fallen shale
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and if I give up and use cora it uh

untold jetty
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I can't roving for two days already. what should I do?

quick birch
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if it says " you can't rover today again " or smth like that its referring to days inside the event

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so open the restaurant and finish the day

untold jetty
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I feel so stupid hahaha thanks

quick birch
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np VitaWave

abstract sequoia
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I went to SSS both Coralie and Helia, never had enough Asterite for anything else until I was done

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not even worth the extra dorm levels, just unlock every other SP valk instead

quick birch
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just unlock for er crystals Dorysia

fallen shale
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dang I thought she was actually gonna do something CoralieSob

quick birch
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not really she has legit 0 BiS teams afaik

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can be usefull for beginners though

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if the valk is WS/lightning it would be nice for leader skill or general lightning buffs

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sushang just cant benefit from neither because she is LoA physical

abstract sequoia
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best cope with lightning leaders

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other than that, everything is just better than her

fallen shale
abstract sequoia
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anyone got the autoplay times for part 1 chapters? I wanna try and make a schedule before 8.3 for farming purposes

torpid orbit
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I think Maddoctor has done a graph

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#📚honkai-lore message
#📚honkai-lore message
all I could find TeriDerpMelon, better ask him directly

untold umbra
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am i missing something? Im completing the expeditions but i don't see the progress in the quest

wanton canopy
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Like this

royal stratus
burnt veldt
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@abstract sequoia

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Wat server u in honkai

ancient needle
burnt veldt
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I'm in all

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Bc ye

burnt veldt
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This manual got me to the same progress on my other acc

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@royal stratus

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@ancient needle what's ur best character in honkai

ancient needle
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Well, there's no such thing as "the best character" xdd

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There is a shit ton of niches to cover, and none of the valks get even close to covering all of them

burnt veldt
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Oh ok

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So it's like they are each a piece and 3 pieces make a good team

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Bust nothing is perfect I like that

merry solar
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not sure if this is the place to ask but any1 knows the answer?

quick birch
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It's C but you can just redo the quiz if you get an answer wrong

merry solar
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oh

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I see, thanks

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
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but over time just playing the valks makes it easier to know the answer

abstract sequoia
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assuming you can play them

sweet flax
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are you suggesting that gacha players will understand a valk's kit and play her properly?

haughty elbow
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reading too hard i love unga bunga

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
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hohe simps probably dont even know about her sp passive

abstract sequoia
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they know about the summary easter egg

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so they read at least that i think

quick birch
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gacha players reading

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nuh uh

abstract sequoia
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as long as its dialogue from the valk

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hyperfixation can work wonders

quick birch
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if we are already talking about reading i should read 8.3 valk kit LanternLollipop

sweet flax
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is it out yet

quick birch
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uhhh i think unoffical translation

abstract sequoia
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i should too actually, not that behind on info for once

sweet flax
quick birch
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yeah

burnt veldt
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@abstract sequoia

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I jsut wanna say big thank you the progress that took me 2 days I managed to egt in less than one

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And i cna buy her i never knew

sweet flax
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the training shop valk is jk, not ps

ps is only available on her banner

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jk is an older version of sushang and can only support part 1 ice units, unlike the banner sushang who is a p2 bleed dps and loa/future ring support

burnt veldt
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Ye ik

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I'm still getting both i love sushanf

quick birch
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you'd want to get her from training shop anyway

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basically free

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some nice ER crystals LanternLollipop

sweet flax
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and good supp for early game cope ma

abstract sequoia
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Getting into the game is one of the hardest parts sadly

burnt veldt
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Yippeee

abstract sequoia
# burnt veldt How so

mostly applies to beginners, but they don't really know what to prioritize without someone showing them the ropes

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and the sensei system doesn't work as good as it should be ingame

burnt veldt
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Oh

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Rn I'm just trying to complete the phases

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Also how to get lvl 40 stigamata

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Need it for quest rn

abstract sequoia
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you just upgrade them

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preferably support stigma i'd say

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for having the widest use cases

burnt veldt
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I can only upgrade my stigamata to lvl 35

abstract sequoia
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because some only have that as max lvl

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same for weapons

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3* equip max is lvl 25
4* is 35
5* is 50
6* is 65 and are always pri-arm weps

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so can't level hannah to lvl 50

burnt veldt
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I'm on this rn should I do the story for some free crystals

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Or should I complete these missions my main goal is li sushang

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@abstract sequoia

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I need to ask smth if u get a s rank that isn't li sushang at 30 rolls till guaranteed does that number reset even if it isn't li sushang

abstract sequoia
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if you roll on kiana now and get her, the pity resets for both banners

burnt veldt
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oh no

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Thst is not very good for me

abstract sequoia
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...you pulled her didn't you

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should've asked in advance

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now i can't undo that pull

abstract sequoia
burnt veldt
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K

abstract sequoia
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the thing in your screenshot bronyaStaring

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just read the tab label on the left

burnt veldt
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Oh mb

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Also the thing is I need 3 days on thst for the 450 bp

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@abstract sequoia

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So it will take some time since I need the 450 BP 3 days

vague lily
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Is there a way to replay/watch earlier story missions in apho part 2.

sweet flax
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afaik open world missions cant be replayed, if there were cutscenes they will be in your collection, you can access it from either clicking your profile or entering your phone

solar drum
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does sushang work well with setsuna signets?

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i noticed she activates the time fracture very often

thick bolt
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on her evade build

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non-SO

spiral badge
fossil yew
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hi guys !! i’m 17 away from hard pity on the regular banners and im wondering if sushang or kiana is more beginner friendly?

vague lily
sweet flax
fossil yew
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oh, it is a new account! im level 32, on chapter vi of the main story rn

frozen crypt
sweet flax
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So you still have your beginner manual I'm hoping?

Should stick to sushang to benefit more from her shill, if you're looking to make the best meta decision wait for more info on future valk support capabilities

wintry juniper
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double SD in MA, what to do ElysiaNotLikeThis

sweet flax
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Need that emote to be a real button

wintry juniper
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back to Sena dps I guess

lyric anvil
sweet flax
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What was the second boss

wintry juniper
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Sa +20%, Guaymas

sweet flax
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In sena we trust ig

wintry juniper
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would Sena HoH Lantern even be good NuwaXD

lyric anvil
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So much stardust in MA and Abyss LanternHeavyThoughts

sweet flax
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Anything else other than hoh

wintry juniper
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Cora then LiliSleep

sweet flax
fossil yew
frozen crypt
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SilverCute okiee

wintry juniper
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actually

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can HoFin work on Sena dps

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feels so weird to have Lantern HoFin, no fucking rotation

frozen crypt
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Truege

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Your sena becomes WoD

wintry juniper
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my Sena becomes solo

rugged compass
wintry juniper
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VelionaShrug idk p2

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I slap things together

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and pray it work

sweet flax
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Hohe doesn't have domain resonance is the only issue

rugged compass
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RoO is the slap stuff together unit(s)

sweet flax
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So she's kinda useless for sena (and hohe is shit in p2 as well atm)

wintry juniper
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Sena HoFin Cora then, thx Breath MeiSip

naive pivot
wintry juniper
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Sa

rugged compass
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Oh

wintry juniper
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FWS Vita Sparkle

rugged compass
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Damn

wintry juniper
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no Song no dudu no Sushang no Thele

rugged compass
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Could always go FWS Vita HoH RozaYeet /j (dont take me seriously)

wintry juniper
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Sena HoFin Cora yeet

rugged compass
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Does that team even work?

wintry juniper
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VelionaShrug time to find out

frozen crypt
wintry juniper
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no I'm gonna do a troll run to see how bad it is kek

rugged compass
wintry juniper
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and I'm never running Helia

frozen crypt
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That team sounds about as fun putting your hand in a woodchipper

rugged compass
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I give great advice

wintry juniper
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nah it sounds as fun as it gets

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which is 0 dmg, but fun short rotations

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and then asking yourself why you cannot 2nd rotate

frozen crypt
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Right because you quit on rot 2 and open a different game

wintry juniper
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yea

frozen crypt
rugged compass
wintry juniper
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or just run Sa boss

frozen crypt
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Sa boss is insta sleep

wintry juniper
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not important to put on the list

sweet flax
wintry juniper
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who would run Qua Teri on SD boss

rugged compass
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Uhm...yeah hahaha
...who would haha

wintry juniper
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I just listed valks that are usable on the 2 SD bosses

sweet flax
wintry juniper
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good to know

sweet flax
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No hes just a madman

rugged compass
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Its Sa
And what?

sweet flax
wintry juniper
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Guaymas

rugged compass
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Eww

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Wtf 2 sd?

sweet flax
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Yes

wintry juniper
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why would I ask for MA comp

sweet flax
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Fws jds dsa check on ma

rugged compass
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Sh

wintry juniper
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if it's not smth that would stump me

frozen crypt
rugged compass
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....damn why am I one ws support short

wintry juniper
frozen crypt
sweet flax
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Hov simp hates kiana, order is never going to be restored

frozen crypt
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I did try to get her but I got nothing in 40 pulls so I abandoned

wintry juniper
rugged compass
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How is Sena Helia Teri DoroV

wintry juniper
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how did bro come up with a shittier comp than I did

frozen crypt
rugged compass
wintry juniper
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just p2 original trio then

sweet flax
rugged compass
sweet flax
wintry juniper
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only boss she does is Qua pig

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and Vita MA

rugged compass
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I wish i had sparkle.

sweet flax
wintry juniper
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but like Sparkle required for Vita

sweet flax
rugged compass
sweet flax
frozen crypt
wintry juniper
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I was away from hi3 for 1 month

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some things never change

rugged compass
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Like me

frozen crypt
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Self aware

sweet flax
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I mean, that's basically half a patch what did you expect to change

wintry juniper
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aware

frozen crypt
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Breath still has the exact same hi3 knowledge as he did this time last year

rugged compass
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Uhm ackshually

frozen crypt
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Name 1 thing u learned

wintry juniper
sweet flax
haughty elbow
wintry juniper
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since March, I barely play Hi3 seriously, I skipped Abyss cycles whenever I felt like it and login like 10-20 days per month

frozen crypt
wintry juniper
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so I thought by now Breath is ahead ;v

rugged compass
wintry juniper
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I'm an oldie

rugged compass
wintry juniper
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surprised no replacements for Hare yet

rugged compass
wintry juniper
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can Sushang even do Dom Apo?

rugged compass
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Uhm
WS teams need a trigger-er to do damage
(Which means a not ws ring unit)

sweet flax
frozen crypt
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Such dalao

wintry juniper
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idfk what's even WS

quick birch
wintry juniper
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HimekoLMAO just know it's one of the tags

sweet flax
rugged compass
wintry juniper
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I just know how RoO works

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the rest I wing it

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I still haven't pulled a single physical p2 valk

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TeriSmoke guess I have to avoid all of them until I can't

rugged compass
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Ill donate uh teri for ur hofi

wintry juniper
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no ty

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I don't even own Luna

rugged compass
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Its okay shes good

wintry juniper
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so Teri is actually a sitting duck

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and a duck is better still

quick birch
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🦆

lyric anvil
rugged compass
wintry juniper
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but why

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to score better on Qua pig?

rugged compass
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:(

solar drum
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solar drum
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sushang dodges very often from how i played her

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i get a time slow every 5 or 10 seconds

spiral badge
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also when reading through the setsuna effects keep in mind of the following distinction:

  • ultimate evasion - the act of evading the enemy attack perfectly. Has the innate effect of restoring 2 team sp. Not the same as the evasion skill. Has no cooldown as long as you can evade against an enemy attack hitbox.
  • evasion skill - the skill related to your evasion icon. Usually triggered off of an UE but some effects may let you trigger it in other ways. Has a cooldown
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  • and you can regularly evade as an action without an enemy attack or triggering any kind of skill.
solar drum
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so the regular evasion won't trigger the UE from setsuna?

spiral badge
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it depends on the specific setsuna signet

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some effects from setsuna needs an ultimate evade off an enemy attack. others are asking for the evasion skill

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regular evasions normally don't relate to this at all but one of your elysia signets is making it so your regular evades can trigger the evasion skill when the skill is not on cooldown

solar drum
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are the signets selected from shallow seq menu for certain valks recommended for deep seq?

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is this how the ER build guide determine how each weekly buff goes?

spiral badge
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they're a nice starting guideline

the ER guide in the pins afaik is based on some cn speedrunning reference. It may not be the most practical but it can tell you what works

i personally just make sure the signets i'm getting actually works for the valk's offense, and get as many cores as possible

as for breach, be mindful that caps at 100% so don't get too many of those

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physical impair and breach are in the same boat too. be mindful sushang gets some impair already from her stigs

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!faq breach

small willowBOT
spiral badge
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but overall i'm still just getting many cores relevant to the valk i used. Odds are i'm already getting the boosted signets anyway

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hm this is the only screenshot i have when i did my sushang evade build run. Maybe you can look at the icons to get an idea

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i'm not saying this is best either. The only thing that is important is that you can clear for weekly rewards

strong void
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do you buy the a-rank frags from the daily shop for 28.8k coins or is it a waste of coins

spiral badge
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you mean the b rank for the 3 starter valks? They're fine to buy later on but early on you may want to prioritize your coins for other things since they can run out

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for late game they're just another way to convert into something else (fragment > witch orb > NCC > affixes)

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and when i say late i mean when you max out your captain level so excess exp converts into coins so you overflow that way

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lv 88

strong void
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thx

sick pebble
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guys why can’t my team beat red lotus 😭🙏

frozen trench
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hiii i want a pulling advice for my acc, i hope it doesn't get so bad.

i got songque recently and some free S rank valks, lvl 65 and i have so much story to do

ancient needle
sick pebble
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ikr I don’t know what to pull

ancient needle
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Well, how many crystals do you have rn?

sick pebble
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my entire acc is copium

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pathetically 4800

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was trying to wait for sparkle’s signature

ancient needle
sick pebble
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and that’s why I didn’t lv up the weapon

ancient needle
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Oh, wait, didn't see that's not her sig

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Tbh I wouldn't even try to get her weap atp

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Just upgrade your current one

sick pebble
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might as well dump my acc 😭

ancient needle
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Did you mean "dump"?

sick pebble
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unironically my progress is like chapter 15 rn

ancient needle
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I mean, long-term it would probably be better, but either way is acceptable

frozen trench
ancient needle
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Does that include the weapon?

frozen trench
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i didnt got her sig

sick pebble
ancient needle
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Only by getting another gacha valk that can support World Star (not that I recommend pulling one rn)

ancient needle
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If you have any pity built on the valk and weap banners let me know

frozen trench
ancient needle
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Okay, do it and report back

sick pebble
ancient needle
ancient needle
sick pebble
#

that’s true…

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I really wonder where you guys get that much gems from

ancient needle
#

Well, unless you have a lot of one-time crystal sources you get like 25k per 9-week patch assuming you're in Redlotus

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You do have to skip stuff sometimes

frozen trench
ancient needle
#

Unless you lucksack Sushang from the discounted 10x

sick pebble
#

how does that work 😭
I am in agony and like I only get less than 10 pulls each month
I also tried grinding main story but they give less

ancient needle
#

The calculator in the pins is nice too

ancient needle
sick pebble
#

is pins an app or sth

sick pebble
ancient needle
#

Oh, you aren't lvl 81 yet? That's a different story

sick pebble
#

yes I don’t want to ascend

ancient needle
#

Well, your crystal income is crippled that way

sick pebble
#

but I’m afraid I can’t beat any stage

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I struggle against redlotus 70-80 already

ancient needle
sick pebble
#

I use 1minutes for each floor

frozen trench
ancient needle
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Do the discounted 10x on Sushang and go from there

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If you get her, get the weap
If you don't, save

ancient needle
frozen trench
#

oke didnt got

ancient needle
#

Well, it is what it is

sick pebble
frozen trench
#

tyysm, do u have any valk in mind that i should get?

ancient needle
#

Not having supps for her will suck, but you can't do anything about it rn

ancient needle
sick pebble
#

my reason for ascending is prob for the higher weapon lv

frozen trench
ancient needle
sick pebble
#

should I ascend now or wait until I have a usable second team

ancient needle
# frozen trench alr 😭

The other route is to make a new acc, that way you'll be able to get both Sushang + weap (could be a little more tight than usual tbf cuz only 3 weeks left) and the 8.3 valk

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But it's fair not to do that

sick pebble
ancient needle
#

MA rewards related to getting acceptable scores are pretty minor, you can build up to that over time

royal stratus
#

my best character is level 37 MC S im a very good fit to answer this question ^_^

ancient needle
#

No reason not to

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The limited BP valks in 8.2 and 8.3 aren't good

hoary vigil
ancient needle
#

A new valk will be added every patch, yes

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And each valk will stay for 3 patches

ancient needle
frank light
#

What should I use sprout crystallum on?

ancient needle
#

Any valks with partially finished gear?

frank light
#

I got weapon and stigmata for these Valkyries only

ancient needle
#

Then just get 7T

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If you don't have it

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Which is very likely the case

frank light
#

Which one is 7T?

ancient needle
#

The katana

frank light
#

Thanks, will get it

ancient needle
#

Make sure to tune and sync it

frank light
#

Thanks, have tuned it, is synching forging it with priarm?

quick birch
#

No syncing is done over the divine key menu that you access through dorm

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There you just activate the +10 global atk buff

frank light
#

thanks!

kind dove
quick birch
#

She's not really op she's your average p2 unit

quick birch
#

She is really good in her niche and a nice LoA support with future support capabilities which is nice but if you can't afford her and 8.3 she's not that worth it

kind dove
quick birch
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Bleed abyss is still very niche. For some it may be worth pursuing that niche but saying she's op is just an exaggeration

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She's not a must pull at all

kind dove
#

I think newbie should pull her

quick birch
#

Completely new players should pull her yeah but that's a very normal mindset since new players get a lot of crystals

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And this player does not look like they just started this version

kind dove
#

Her animation still good too

quick birch
#

That's a personal opinion and nothing that you should take into consideration in giving advice unless the player states they are not meta orientated and/or specifically likes that aspects of the valk

kind dove
#

Why She's not good enough for pull 🤔?

quick birch
#

She's good enough to pull if you can afford her + 8.3 ( including weapons for both )

quick birch
#

Bleed is nice but still niche and won't show up that often outside of bleed shill

kind dove
#

But to maintain the abyss, there should still be bleeding.

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the deducted points are not low, lmao

quick birch
#

Yes but sometimes you have to take the L and that's fine

kind dove
#

:<

quick birch
#

You should still be able to get these trophies back outside of bleed cycles

kind dove
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I think without breakthrough you can still get more crystals

abstract sequoia
#

usually not

sweet flax
#

definitely not

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even retaining agony 1 or 2 post breakthrough is a crystal gain

quick birch
abstract sequoia
sweet flax
#

ok maybe not agony 1 in that case HoSHmm

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but still a gain nonetheless

abstract sequoia
#

Exalted A3 is above Masters RL income, in Masters Agony's case any Exalted Agony gives more

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breakthrough has no reasons to delay it, unless you absolutely hate Superstring Dimension and SSS bosses

spiral badge
#

there can be a rare time where we would find a player who can get master RL but not exalted A3 but again those are rare

Edit: so players that winds up in exalted A2 were more typically not at masters RL to begin with

kind dove
#

So what if it drops to A2?

abstract sequoia
#

You still get more than your current Agony

sweet flax
#

you get easier brackets and similar crystal income to being in a3 (better than agony in masters)

kind dove
#

Oh

sweet flax
#

realistically speaking, the more you play, the easier it is to retain a higher tier

abstract sequoia
#

and i think no matter the server, A2 and A3 for the most part is maintainable for casuals

kind dove
#

ok, then i won't worry about that

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
#

well we're not CN

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SEA disturbance is much, but that problem only starts in RL

sweet flax
#

how much is sea rn

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cuz I got surprised when eu went like -10 to -20 d this patch

abstract sequoia
quick birch
#

Even CN had the great dist decrease this patch

quick birch
#

Went down pretty hard from what I remember

abstract sequoia
#

yeah people hate bleed no matter the server

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
#

EU went below 500 again

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record was 504 for us in RL

quick birch
#

Washed server holy

abstract sequoia
#

543 in Nirv

abstract sequoia
#

need to wake those people tf up

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
#

even sushang havers score terribly, i don't understand

quick birch
sweet flax
abstract sequoia
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i only got RS havers in my bracket

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not even one person with my team

quick birch
#

Promoted on fish with fws/vita/Hohe LanternHeavyThoughts

abstract sequoia
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and i don't believe all of them skipped vita, badum and sparkle

sweet flax
#

next weather is sparkle weather right?

quick birch
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Sadly yes

abstract sequoia
#

yea sparkler weather

sweet flax
#

perfect, nirv streak coming back LanternHeavyThoughts

quick birch
#

Nuh uh go to RL with me

abstract sequoia
#

and i get what i asked for

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nirvana quantum cycle

quick birch
#

I mean 2 cycles nirv looks doable

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But Ice hellmaru yeah have fun on that one

sweet flax
#

No hohe thel?

quick birch
#

Pretty sure he has both but probably low rank hohe

sweet flax
#

Ggs

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I'm hoping there's no dudu requiring cycle so I can retain nirv rest of patch

abstract sequoia
#

S2 Hohe

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might be cooked

sweet flax
#

In nirv? Cooked

ancient needle
sweet flax
#

Bracket rng time ig

quick birch
abstract sequoia
#

assuming i have the mats ready

ancient needle
#

Cooked

sweet flax
#

Kiaelf available starting tmrw iirc

ancient needle
#

Also Kia is not good for Ice

sweet flax
#

At least the missions for it

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
#

i know, but kiaelf sadly has more priority i think

ancient needle
#

Oh, definitely

quick birch
#

" can I still complete this event for free elf" question incoming for snazzy cards

sweet flax
#

It's the only elf with priority

quick birch
#

Free hohe ptsd

abstract sequoia
#

unless ely elf is such a big upgrade that I have to sidetrack

ancient needle
#
  1. Not really
  2. You need 4*
sweet flax
burnt veldt
#

@abstract sequoia

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Bro do i rlly have to wait 3 days to complete this phase

quick birch
#

If it's the get 450 BP exp for 3 days yes

burnt veldt
#

WHYYY

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I need to get my crystals as quickly as I can

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I want to get li sushang

abstract sequoia
#

just do story in the meantime, dont freak out

burnt veldt
#

That's why

abstract sequoia
#

you wont man

burnt veldt
#

K

abstract sequoia
#

this isnt genshin or hsr

burnt veldt
#

Imma grind story after school

burnt veldt
abstract sequoia
#

you get what you pull for, if you select kiana banner, you get kiana. If sushang, you get sushang

burnt veldt
#

YIPE

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IM LIKE 50 PULLS AWAY

abstract sequoia
#

nice

burnt veldt
#

After li sushang should I get her equipment or do I go for the 28 spins in dorm supply

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But ik the starter manual will cover the dorm spins for me

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I can get 15 dorm supply spins ik thst

abstract sequoia
burnt veldt
#

Ye ik but free s rank

abstract sequoia
#

So dont worry about getting something good out of those and especially dont waste crystals for it

burnt veldt
#

I wont waste crystals on it

abstract sequoia
burnt veldt
#

Either way starter manual is gonna give 15 dorm supply pulls

burnt veldt
#

From the 7 day login

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Today I'm getting her keys

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But since it's America time

abstract sequoia
#

i wouldnt

burnt veldt
#

I gotta wait

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Then what do I do with the keys

abstract sequoia
#

oh wait nvm what i said

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I forgot you get keys of the void for free now

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i would keep this in mind though @burnt veldt

sweet flax
#

But assuming it was accurate ||if there's a spending next patch then preferably pull on dorm that patch ||

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
#

Hence why I said if

spiral badge
#

i think history and trends are notable as to bring things to attention to be mindful of but do refrain from banking on them, since hoyo can change things at a drop of a dime

vale island
#

Can i ask anyone to review my songque?

lone crater
#

as long as u have sig and the correct stigamata, and then affix is all atk/cdmg then youre fine

sinful hatch
#

what to do if i don't have bleed

naive pivot
rotund roost
quick birch
#

Ps/vita/fws

naive pivot
#

i thought only fws wanted vita SenadinaStare

rotund roost
#

Uhh should I do another ref cause my sushang isnt doing enough damage to kill this boss?

abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
#

but whether vita is BiS depends on more than just buffs. this is also the case for FWS and RS

naive pivot
abstract sequoia
#

for PS this is less the case because Bleed abyss

ancient needle
#

(Breaker state means having external Breach buffs)

abstract sequoia
#

sry keep forgetting that

abstract sequoia
#

this is the skill btw

#

in Leader

quick birch
naive pivot
agile mountain
#

which character is good now ? i am a newbie who just started the game

#

Should i wait until anniversary or to pull the current one and the next one

glad ice
#

anniversary is with new year patch iirc

agile mountain
#

Ah ok

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So which character should I pull or which team

thick bolt
#

!faq pull

small willowBOT
royal stratus
agile mountain
#

is there special teams that i should know of `?

thick bolt
#

!faq fhm

small willowBOT
thick bolt
#

starter setups, quite useful even after lvl 80 till you get yourself some gacha teams

royal stratus
#

yeah those beginner teams look rly nice

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from my limited experience terminal aide and blastmeal are insane

agile mountain
#

the pulls are they the same mechanic as HSR or genshin ?

thick bolt
#

Nope.
No 50/50

royal stratus
#

neither really bc theres no 5050

thick bolt
#

what you see is what you get

agile mountain
#

the pulls i spent will be counted to the next ?

abstract sequoia
#

depends on which banner

thick bolt
#

Depends on the banner but for most yes

agile mountain
#

the character A/B and Gear A/B ?

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so no pity means you are garanteed to get the charcter within 90 pulls ?

thick bolt
#

ye

agile mountain
#

ok

thick bolt
agile mountain
#

The B is always a rerun of older charters ?

agile mountain
thick bolt
#

most cases yes, sometimes its the new gear for an old character

agile mountain
#

kk

thick bolt
#

I'd say just create a new one, new account benefits are great for acc development

agile mountain
#

so only pull A in most case ?

agile mountain
thick bolt
#

understandable

agile mountain
#

so i can do everything with the one app haha

thick bolt
agile mountain
#

and i suppose almost 7 years of content is gonna givbe me a lot of pulls

amber finch
ancient needle
#

Just make sure you have Starter Manual right after the tutorial

ancient needle
agile mountain
ancient needle
amber finch
agile mountain
#

cause i am way too lazy to switch up things on hoyolab

ancient needle
ancient needle
#

That way you won't need to make a new Hoyo acc

amber finch
#

also hi3 hoyolab sucks ass tbh

#

the rewards are nothing to marvel at

ancient needle
agile mountain
#

ah ok

#

i guess i will just start another acc ig

#

do i need to pull both the weapon and charcter for them to function or are there good 4 star wepons for charcters as well ?

abstract sequoia
#

character and weapon are the norm

agile mountain
#

so 150 pulls per banner ?

abstract sequoia
#

no good alternative weapons really

agile mountain
#

thats a lot of pulls haha

abstract sequoia
amber finch
agile mountain
#

kk

amber finch
#

and they usually give out 5 free pulls

abstract sequoia
#

and pity carries over

amber finch
#

also you’ll be pulling every 8-9 weeks

#

a pretty long time to hoard crystals

agile mountain
#

i see

abstract sequoia
#

either way, what you wanna do is only pull if you can guarantee valk and weapon. a potential strat would be saving enough to hard pity weapon and pulling on the new valk with everything above

#

if you get valk, you guarantee weapon too this way

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if not, you keep the crystals and pity save and don't end up with a valk without gear

ancient needle
#

That's a good idea to do atp considering the time constraints imo

amber finch
#

a different strat is just getting the valk in the discounted 10 and get the weap in the first 10Dorysia

abstract sequoia
#

if your name is Aventurine sure

amber finch
abstract sequoia
#

not even close

amber finch
#

yes im not joking

agile mountain
amber finch
#

also double vitaDorysia

agile mountain
#

so basically to be prepared to hard pity everything ?

abstract sequoia
agile mountain
#

or to simply have enough pulls to pull the weapon and then gamble the rest in characters ?

#

this sounds smart ig

abstract sequoia
#

yeah

agile mountain
#

aventurine be like

abstract sequoia
#

my strat is what kingque would do

agile mountain
#

or just be p2w a few k hmmmm

abstract sequoia
#

sure whaling works too, but even for that we have a guide in pins

sweet flax
agile mountain
#

jesusssss

#

is there any time sensitiv stuff in the beginning ? cause i wont be like crazyly active this week

abstract sequoia
#

all the starter events

sweet flax
#

As long as you log in as often you'll be fine

abstract sequoia
#

which last about 90 days

#

since account creation

agile mountain
#

so one hour per day is gonna be enough i suppose ?

abstract sequoia
#

sure

#

it doesn't expect you to play the entire game within that time frame, so don't worry

#
Honkai Impact 3 Wiki

Starter's Event is now upgraded to let you have better development! Play Starter's Manual to get S-rank battlesuit Herrscher of the Void, Jade Knight, Crystals, Supply Cards and more! Plus, Major Story Chapters are available and you can have early access to the chapters you like!

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Growth Regimen is the main thing that you will grind out

agile mountain
#

i see

#

can i dm you sometimes if i have a question ?

#

cause this game is a bit confusing to me compare to genshin and hsr

abstract sequoia
#

sure, but it's probably better if you ask and ping me here

#

so others can reply instead if I don't have time

ancient needle
#

It's best if you just ask here, that way you can get multiple opinions if the question is more tricky

agile mountain
#

kk thx

abstract sequoia
#

also one person isn't always right

#

or sometimes it's opinion-based

agile mountain
#

trying to get a mentor that i can share some of the stuff with , legit am the only person from my friends who plays this game

#

the rest only play genshin and hsr haha

abstract sequoia
#

feel that, they all went to hsr and jumped ship to zzz

abstract sequoia
#

none even tried hi3

#

at least not from what I know

agile mountain
abstract sequoia
#

i'm a day 1 player for hsr, so

agile mountain
#

played zzz on day 1 too and quited haha

#

genshin was too grindy for me

#

openworld and stuff

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
#

same, zzz didn't catch me enough and I prefer the action combat in this game

agile mountain
#

especially the the maps have 3 layers and some chests in the middle of no where

#

do you play hsr ?

#

i played that since day 1 too haha

slim blaze
#

PH SHIT

#

Abyss

thick bolt
#

Berwi lol

#

quite an interesting category to scroll through

quick birch
#

I think maybe they forget abyss sometimes

#

But idk LanternHeavyThoughts

slim blaze
#

Bruh

#

You dont gotta out me like that....

abstract sequoia
#

so me fr fr

thick bolt
slim blaze
#

Oh wow its bleed husk?

abstract sequoia
#

yea enjoy

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

yea no

slim blaze
#

Hahaha

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

and high hitcounts

#

at least with ult

slim blaze
autumn oxide
slim blaze
#

I am convinved they put this just to discourage NS users kekq

slim blaze
autumn oxide
#

i forgot to try ns

#

LMAO'

slim blaze
#

Dewit

slim blaze
autumn oxide
#

cosmic dante tm cez b

autumn oxide
slim blaze
#

Ah right cpsmic

dry igloo
#

hi is this worth buying? and should i prioritize pulling sushang + her weapon or a different valk?

calm kernel
abstract sequoia
#

Bleeding+Bleed buff too strong

slim blaze
#

I think imma just chill and sit this one out.

burnt veldt
#

@abstract sequoia

#

Just finished school

potent hamlet
potent hamlet
#

idk the EU cos

#

*cost because bchips is very slightly diff depending on region

ancient needle
#

So that you can guarantee the weap when you get her

ancient needle
#

Also keep in mind the value of the bundle is in crystals, not in HoHE

#

HoHE is nice for earlygame, but that's it really

royal stratus
#

everything ive read has basically told me to sell a limb if i h ave to to get this

ancient needle
royal stratus
#

only 40 pulls not bad hehe

agile mountain
#

hey one of you guys have an invitation code ?

#

just started a new acc

low kestrel
#

it's possible i get 1° 2° 3° place?

#

my team

royal stratus
low kestrel
agile mountain
low kestrel
#

someone can say to me why tf my bar is inverted

sweet flax
low kestrel
sweet flax
#

tbh 2nd and 3rd place scored pretty low, so if you play better you can outscore them with that team

royal stratus
#

just to like lyk im not sure ifu know 3rd 5th 6th expired^_^

shadow gyro
#

team for this MA? not sure about how to split them up

sweet flax
#

tbh id leave fws and jds on boss 1
and something like ps and vita on boss 2 (can also try dsa vita thel)

#

feel free to try out different combinations in training mode as well maybe you find something in the middle to get good scores on both bosses

royal stratus
#

only way to get ta17 is from buying fragments rightt

sweet flax
#

right now yes, ta is only available via asterite shop

royal stratus
#

and uhm also should build her + rc and vb over ps for now rightt

royal stratus
#

i fixed it^_^

sweet flax
#

try to get ps weapon, but generally speaking your preffered team should be something like ps ta vbm (vb is an old suit called valkyrie bladestrike, be careful with abbs)

#

until you can unlock ta, can replace her with rc

shadow gyro
royal stratus
royal stratus
sweet flax
#

its no worries, if you struggle with abbs keep in mind most p2 valks only have 1 suit so referring to them by name is fine enough (so coralie in this case)

shadow gyro
sweet flax
royal stratus
#

still confused with p1 p2 sryy

#

ill learn^_^

sweet flax
#

p2 just means has a ring (ps and vbm for example)

royal stratus
#

righttt okay

sweet flax
#

so these valks are your p2 units (hohe and hofi got dkeys with rings, so while technically they are p1 units, they have use cases with p2)

#

wait I forgot to SS my hohe 💀

royal stratus
#

with uhm ps before i get her weapon am i ok to just run whatever on her without investing it

#

only invest in her base level n skills

#

and i guess not invest into swap

sweet flax
#

you can use wtvr you have access to right now, but yes preferably dont spend resources on improving gear that is going to get replaced

#

keep in mind while pulling her weapon you will get stigmata pieces, so if you get 2/3 stigmatas, use the box you got on log in event to complete the set

#

box should've looked something like this with sushang on it

royal stratus
#

ohgosh how do i see items ihave

#

wait nvm ill figure it out idont wanna bother u mb😭

sweet flax
#

on your bridge press the equip menu

royal stratus
#

omg i never pressed this

#

😭 really obvious im js slow ty:sob

#

been trying to get pieces for ss and ya is this an okay prio ? i saw a guide outside of the discord but idk if this is still a good idea i think maybe old

shadow gyro
sweet flax
#

even an ungeared 0/4 a rank sp unit is more useful than those 2 with proper investment

royal stratus
sweet flax
shadow gyro
calm turret
royal stratus
sweet flax
#

lmfao, ranking them up isnt a complete waste at least

#

getting rank ups for units contributes to your dorm level

shadow gyro
royal stratus
somber fable
#

HigoPuppyEyes idk if i should be happy i got her or sad because i cant get her wep