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wait that looks similar to one of the bases shikni made
I'll make like a swimusit bra under
because it is my base
nah you trippin
he blackmail and took it from me sob sob
okay I'm gonna go to the store while search for a good beach chair on pintrest

her back ain't gonna be on that thingy tho
wouldnt her arms start hurting if she stays in that pose without leaning on something lol
she's fixing her hair and getting ready for beach time
cmon selinaaa you gotta start thinkinnnn
i thought she was like doing a pose with the arms to look cool :(
she fixing her hair while looking cool
lmao ok
i do that pose every day and i do it just because ill look awkward if i dont do that
ez
I think im gonna serious on drawing moebius even i draw it in uncolored version
WIP
Study colour theory. Thats honestly all you need to know the rest is just practice
are you using a mabius pic as a ref and just copying it or is the face just copied
hmmmmmm
??? wtf does yabe mean
Oh no
yabe?

What will I do guys o..O Should i make Ai chan.... or Sirin..... or Rita? O..O can't decide
Eh
Yes, i download moebius pic from google then re draw it (?)
Yep... That pic
Is it illegal?
If its illegal then sry and ill not post it in this server again and keep it for myself...
as long as you don't claim it as your own art
all is good
tracing is quite often used on practicing
Ooh okay
So... Tracing its allowed if im not claim it as my own art aight?
You can use it as your practice don't post it out of nowhere owo, some artist might attack you later
hmm.. hm..
Im not really good at coloring so im mostly make my something that i draw like this... Is this good?

yup hmm.. hm.. owo it's good
What is owo?
Ok...
its not, but its better to not post traced art š
Ooh okay
Would you wear that to the beach
i cant really call it good coz youre tracing it, theres no skill behind all of this
mmh
Even shii can produce this quality by tracing it as well
i'd say you're a lil bit above Aki
still not good enough 
Well I was always trashy at drawing
so yeah
Now I wanna draw 
that last drawing of your's had potential but you rushed it
Deadlines
:"D
I'm getting burnt out on that one anyways
so better just moved on to another one
me and shii doing art 1 minute before deadline
š¤
blue seele hair lookin like a wet towl
red one was okay but I'm still salty
about that line on her calf
making it thicker was the move i swear
wdym good? That one was never good, botched the coloring so damn hard
Even someone who doesn't even draw would literally be disappointed once they see it
that's just how trash I am at coloring
veliona's eye lash looks pretty weird coz the hair and it has no color difference
you're a bit to harsh
and that's okay, it motivates me further, so it's both a good thing and a bad thing
I'd love to receive critiques that would make you cry than people giving you sugar-coated statements
shii coping with the harsh comments aki gives
Going by Delay-sensei's statements, are you sure you have the right to say that?
i commented on her tweet
š
i said it was ok
very useful constructive feedback aki, thank you
np
O..O who should i L*** next O..O I already finished mobius O..O maybe rita? Ai chan? Sirin?
thank you resident Kami-artist Aki
...uhh what now

what is L***?
i called someone out on tracing earlier but i couldn't bother saying anything else
you guys dealt wiht them?
L*wd

Backreading: Exists
i will
Aki: 
Im still not much good but I did my best currently OwO for snekk
to save your time
Now O O now come to think of it I still didn't post it on danbooru and R**
checked it, your art style looks cute||r than shii's||

anyone's artstyle's better than mine, don't worry, I accepted that fact already 
yes/no can work
She aināt gonna swim I guess 
azure hear me out
azure hear me out
aki has no fashion sense
LOL
O..O my art is still not enough O..O my mind is planning to draw L*** at the same time my body is telling me to draw kawaii modius
she just got to the beach, she's fixing her hair in a bun and she's getting ready for the water
Okay
you have two hands for a reason you know?

1 sandal on 1 off
And she needs to take off that crazy looking shirt to get in the water right

But... my other hand is for touching something soft
Also the neck string looks like itād choke her
o so you have a plushie? wow, never knew you don't need to crtl + z whenever you draw huh
it's all gonan be fine azure
A2 Kami-artist
So


I'm pretty happy with me current art state, i have improved a lot since the start
so
I'm going confidently into this
NO O...O Im just touching something soft when my other hand is tired on pressing the bottons
Guys what's happening?
I miss drawing
that's what's happening
Hi aki
imagine doing your school work
o/
I have an exam in 8 hours okay
SLEP
And Iām catching up on 5 weeks worth of lectures
Iām frickin cramming at 2:34 am god help me
I still don't understand why people cram, do they not listen on lectures or something? Guess that's a topic for #off-topic-discussion š
But I also have school work so yeah, I guess I'll lurk here 


Apparently I have to draw 3 mobiuses for my missing inktobers
Kinda hate drawing her
which reminds me that inktober is dumb as hell
so much for "we just doing it for fun"
True
after i finish and post this before beach art
I'll see if ppl on devi gonna give me some requests
you guys are doing Inktober ?
was doing honkaitober, stopped due to lack of time to doodle
everything w
you need to decide what kind of artist you want to be first, concept, chara, background etc
a fanartist or someone want to develop his own stuff
specially lately with the rise of webcomic
oh?
I think i want to something like an Illustrator
āMOTHER, I BRING NEWS FROM THE WOMBā
To draw characters and backgrounds
92m has been making short art for his OC lately
that's definitely nice
another one on my "Follows" list
do you know aoseagrass ?
thanks shikni-sensei o/
shik is forceing someone to become a webcomic artist
they are insane
you make it like it is super easy to make webcomic
mhm
muh =3=
uhhh what was that sensei o-o;;?
it is time guysss
lol wat
hah
anyway~ Masaki's "comic" start out just bunch of gag until it got out of hand
quite fun
took you too long

i rly like how mobius looks so why not try and get her
i am into broken ones as you guys know but also into these crazy ones
like hu tao and mobius
hu tao also teases which is my fav
sure, try to get one of the type mostly depend on her weapon and gear
the same guy that watched mobius teaser and was scared

mobius' power effects are so dirty-looking that i can barely tell whats happening but i love her so its fine
who won't with that kind of laugh
i got full fishl set in like 40 pulls
sooooo
still wish you don't have to wait for another patch to get her bridge animation update
i can get this too?
then just give up
so a bad start but we good

but but Carole is coming next~~
Carole's span is fun
i wish honkai didnt take up so much time 
im already sick of using her in apho, time to skip
30 mins should be fine if you dont tryhard
it also took me around 30 mins to finish it
what?! as battle only lasts 5 mins, theres 4 stages so you only have a maximum of 20 mins spent on abyss
just do all 4, get the gem, don't care about the ranking at all
Yes... I dont have skill... Look at my own art ;_;
that hand though
i'd take your art anytime than your traced mobius
Ok :)
tracing is ok if you're learning from it but other than that no
Btw my handwrite is bad bcz im using finger for draw
:O
it is too damn bright, what are you talking about
i hate your color style so anything is better
too simple
also, that still the same color style i always use
has more depth mabye cuz of that red suit idk
Can u teach me how to good at coloring pls
well you first need to grasp how the light and shade work
I think your coloring in general is just very saturated with always neutral color shading
don't cell shade that's my advice
you dont even know how to draw yet and you already want to know coloring? practice anatomy first like Aki
Hehe
well i do both
you have to jump through the same hoops as Aki
Iām still figuring out how I want to color
Ok then teach me how to draw the body(?)
i have a day plan for today I'm gonna wash dishes and study for a bit and then I'll have a 2h drawing setion, will try to figure out the bg in that time and mabye add clothes if I'm fast enough
no.
;_;
donāt get aki to teach you anatomy
Then to who i should ask for teach me about anatomy
you can get Aki to send you the link to the tutorial he watched
just not let him teaching you how to do it
yea youtube tutorials are great
in general even a quick Google search is helpful
Can u send me the link of the tutorial that you watch? Send me at dm pls
and using yourself as a reference to see how things work
common thing i see a lot with beginner artists is that they think they can learn 1 thing and be god at art

that was me last year lmao

Okay...
same that was also me 
well if people around you don't do art or just often being nice, it can get you over your head...
mhm
ahem
aki

that's why roasting exists w
and then get stuck in that comfort zone
I dont understand...
this is a constant reason why i ignore what my friends say when i show my drawings
if people get are nice to you you might think you're some kind of kami-artist and you won't even try to improve
big ego in art isnt good if you're beginning
or something like that
If everyone around you says āyouāre doing awesome and perfectā when youāre not, ppl lose sight of the fact that they can improve
mhm
It goes to their head often did for me for a while
and then you start ignore the basic because you thought you already so good at it
Ooh
the only thing i ask from my friends is "ayo does this look deformed" or "is this the right color because im blind"
also, are those lips or he just slightly open his mouth?

so it is teeth there then
It looks slightly open to me
the line in the middle is teeth right
Yeh
Wait what...
i ask friends irl if thereās anything they see blatantly wrong and I come here to get roasted
wait until you start to draw those delicious abs
shik.
Cool... But...
I have a friend whoās been trying to draw abs for a while but canāt figure it out bc they donāt look up references and I canāt convince them
Something between the legs is little bit annoying... (You know what i mean)
( ͔° ĶŹ ͔°)
ya sometime people rather stubborn on how they do thing
theyll be stuck for a long time then
and just say "i'm too lazy" for that and ignore the advice coughtakicought

Ok then im gonna watch the anatomy vid... Bye
i have a friend who always says they want to get better at art but they dont even use a proper drawing software

mf uses the equivalent of ms paint
but on browser
i was doing them dishes
you still need it?
bruh, paper and pencil will do
holy moly
guess not
they always complain about not being able to draw guys and i tell them to look at references and they never try
only sometimes cmon, only when i need to fix so much stuff
pog


you normally plan thing ahead so you won't caught in that "yep, no clue what to do here" in the first place
this is me except even with sketch i still manage to forget stuff

wanna draw guy ?
study anatomy
and probably study some gay furry artist, not the bara one tho
me newb and newbs don't have the creativity


on the serious side tho
im also a newb and have plenty if creativity aki
except when i try to draw what i imagine it looks
off

you don't have to be "too creative"
I have wild inaginations 
but i have to say
But its good to plan things before doing it
we all do but it's hard to transform it into that blank paper
and then there's those biology breakdown anatomy thingy
you should still be able to imagine vaguely the kind of setting you want for a pose
well ya that is why you search for reference to help visualize those better
while Aki, you seem to have habit of see a cool pose, draw it first then decide what you gonna do with it
yeeeee
Many artist roughly sketches the pose first to visualize

before they start getting more "Detailed" with the sketches
sure
also
do you guys have any idea on measuring when drawing
yes
I want to get over this weakness of mine, getting some of the proportion wrong
your legs should be the same lengs as the top of the head all the way down to where legs start
Oh okay
looking from a picture and then draw it down on paper is a whole different story, and it really hard for me to measure it
I'mma save it and study it later
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i always 1st do upper body and from there i mesure head legs arms
just like in that vid
like look at Aki's draw there
YOGA
you can see the legs have different length
just by compare they length to each other
so one of the easy way to spot the mistake is just simple compare part to each other
Yea, I just realized that in the latest gesture drawing I made 
as you can see, the legs' lenght is way off
not just the legs
look at her hands
you can see one of them is bigger than other
and after you spot it, you can decide which size you want to use or if it fit to the rest of the body
to see if it too big or too small in compare
I've only managed to fix the leg
ye, the hands are pretty uneven
i have no idea how to do the arm that is resting down
if you draw by reference then you can start by framing the pose itself
also, you can also see the place she sit on are in different angle from the reference
that why the arm also feel longer
shik
oh
you have any refs with a cool lookin park in the bg?
i can tottaly steal that
a park is a park, if you want it too look cool, just fill it with rando running in the back
0
the grass scares me the most
well gonna go eat, just ask Shii if you want someone to bully you
idk what's the saying when you wish someone a good meal
Bon appetit
i can also bully you but without the good advice part

This is why I'm scared to post my art here 
dont worry if you dont want critique you can just mention it

nah you'll benefit a lot if you post it
That's what i keep saying to them. They're scaring thr people
ask anyone who did if it was helpful
Not if you're the one to give the "advice "

hello hanami
i benefited from posting my art here so
they should too
you guys lost your screws
Yeah everyone else gives advice but you straight up say its bad but dont tell them what's bad
why dis game so big in gbs
IT'S NOT LIKE THAT
IT'S EXACTLY LIKE THAT
bully

this is too accurate


best course of action is to just not say anything Aki since you dont know how to deliver your message well.

my advice is bad but not as bad as aki's 
if you just say "its bad" but dont explain why how tf do they fix it
That's not really advice.
until you learn what constructive criticism is, its better if you just dont talk about it


the face looked weird cmon, even shii can see it
what if the senseis just tell you, "Art bad", what would you feel?
theres a difference between constructive criticism and straight up shitting on ppl's faces
Yeah you know that it's bad, but where's the part that makes it bad?
I'm not the one who needs to give advice when there's other ppl who do it betetr



ok i won't say shit from now on

S-so this whole i-ive been getting shitted on my face?

send your art and see what happens

That almost sounds like a threat
oh no it's not a threat
When did this channel become so violent?
i said i ain't gonna say anything
idk
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after Aki start gaining "power"
Eruope
i didn't get snake girlllll
so?
guess weād see Aki getting bonked soon huh 
Nothing
this is getting off topic huh
Too many typing at once
im up there somewhere
Not gonna scroll there
then go there and spam Shii for help
Omg what happened here?
i pulled one pull on the thing where you get her stigmas and i got a 4* stigma but not hers :((((((
š
idk
just Aki feeling lonely as usual
Aww
i need attention ok!
You are from Genshin Collab?
my fish cracked tho
is she a puppet type or something with those kind of knees?
I forgot to erase those

=3=
nah she is totally look like Kongming
well you could give her a detachable sleeve and maybe something for her waist instead of bow knot
I think her hair color should change
you can also give her a ponytail with bun instead of long hair with bang tied to the back
or even side knot instead of front one
plenty of option to change it so it won't look the same but still keep the same feel~
well it certainly doesn't help when her thingy look like Kongming's harp
Oh
if you show that to anyone they will instantly think about Kongming
maybe instead of a straight line like the harp's string
Is thisā¦.less kongming
I think itās pretty amazing and good money too since vtubing has been trending and the community will grow even bigger later
ya she almost look like Ayaka + Kokomi now
if you want to get rid of kongming elements, first thing to change is the color theme
I meanā¦.I really wanna keep an air theme
get creative then
I guess i should just scrap her design
you could try different kind of green
Would look too much like a tree theme but ill try
well just try out various layer of color and see which one look good
that say, she leaning more into water type than air theme
with the way you use the color + the pattern on the clothe also give off more bubble - water feel
This is feom world flipper shes she's air element right?
World flipper has really good character designs dor air types
i don't play World flipper, i just like her for her "body"
so i just store some "reference" as usual
that tan skin though~
I think the one that looks like the most aired themed atm is celty
Hmmhmgnhm
Its not like i want her to look completely different from kongming i guess
I want her to look kongming inspired, but not a ripoff
legs
This is celtie, but shes nothing like how you want
well if you stuck, just look at various design to see what you can combine
I guess i should change the skirt color
But celtie gives a really air element vibe
Im aiming for kongming+AE
not just from the character you "inspired" from
but also from other design too
like those with similar design theme
or even just similar outfit design
YES YES FUXI
Im gonna use fuxi hair
What about changing rhe clothes?
Oh, shes pretty chinese inspired so id want to keep the hanfu
delicious pelvic curtain
so ya, if you stuck, just look around to different kind of design
you can just combine or adjust them into the similar design you want them to be
imo the other designs look more japanese themed than cn and yours looks cn
sorta reminds me of kongming + kokomi + fuxi
Should i settle with this?
Thats what im going for i guess
I also threw HoS in there

is she just wearing sock without any footwear?
Forgot to adjust the colors
=3=
but ya i think that is fine enough, the design may feel similar but you can always show the "personality" to give off a different feel
that a oc?
Yes
Quite satisfied with this already
Whatās kongmingās personality, so i dont make her too similar
somehow complicated to explain
@whole cloak how do i find the wanish point for bg?
your character looks like humanoid zither lament
i wanna steal this but i have no idea how tbh
go ask Sel or Delay for background tip
then time for a new ELF
sadist but also tsuntsun
quick question
am I looking at here from above or below
Yes....
she is the same just different personality
just like the rest of Captain-verse gang
Kongming is a ruler so she is more mature than Theresa
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Ty
Ive decided for a name for my oc anyways
don't watch ep 2
Huixing
it's too hard
Ok

Teri can technically buy alcohol and drive but
If you had no idea who she was, Would you believe her if she told you she was 47

they also often use this kind of angle to make Kongming feel taller
and so we have thing like this
well your char does have that "ara~ ara~" feel of her
okayyyy
it has an okay feel to it
I'll add a cat here as well
I hope I'm not too ambitious with that cat
it is a drawing style of "no panties?"
it is when you draw character in a way make you question if she even wear anything at all
well O..O look at the angle
oh well nvm
is there a panties there~ you don't know~~
or maybe the pantsu is the tiny one I forgot what it's called
well you can always see it in-game
yup
as whenever you use QTE to summon her, it pretty much in full view
yup O O my eyes go bigger at that time
Ok im alr watch it but im still dont understand how to make good anatomy by myself
I think i should stop my drawing hobbies....
stop if you think you're not up for it
Ok
if it's making you stressed cuz you wanna do it but can't then do it even more
if it's just annoying to you
pls stop
okay I'm done with bg
time to find ref of threes cat running man and yea
gambare owo
the dude on the background caught my attention more
ye
i gave up on dude in bg idea
too hard for me to draw some dude running
anyone has experiance with drawing cats?
they hard?
Ok i try it again.... Is it good?
fuck no
;_;
don't worry i have a vid for that
Ok ill try it again
IT WILL HELP SOOO MCUH
Rlly?
the eyes look like it those are hole... not eyes
._.
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it helpssssssssss
so much
Damn...
Ok...
i just learned this not to long ago
it's amazinggg
okay bg doneeeeeeee
@dusky trail some anime girl resting face reference?
all i found are not resting but bored faces
Ok im alr try it and still weird
Oh ok
she looks dead again
because the face and the body don't seem like they fit with each other
so your character aways have this "what am i even doing here" look
but thoes the face look ok
when you don't look at the body
mabye something like this
Ok im alr complete it and yeah.... Its weird at the red mark
cuz your jaw line is too big
you goptta listen to what marc said
jaw line goes a little under that nose like
your's is fucking huge
Oh yeah im listen to him but im too sleepy so yea... Im just focus on the video
jawline goes just a little under green line
@graceful echo
thoes 2 lines should be the same lenght
that's why your jaw is so big
Ouh
so jawline goes a lil under nose line
and jaw is same lenght as that line
your plane is also too small
What plane
Ok... Ill watch it tomorrow when im not sleepy
okay gn
working on finishing Mobius, if anyone has some criticism that could help i wouldnāt mind . š
It looks good and you render very well but make the crown symmetrical and make her hands smaller since they are much too big
Thank you, iām still working on improving hands so this helped a lot.
the pinky also oddly long
you can look at the left pinky compare to the right one
her right hand also looks like you just force it to show all 4 fingers
Of course. For measurement, if she were to put her hand flat on her face it should go from her chin too a little above her eye brows. This varies amongst people a bit but thats the general rule. I love her face tho
and also rather too high compare to the knuckle of the rest of the hand
Thank you, both of you, iāll try to improve on that now š
Ur right tho the hands are a bit odd lmao
shik gib a better face expression
Canāt wait to see the finished piece
you are very skilled
so you can see those two fingers are really off the base
tysm
but one thing that bothers me but i could be wrong
the lastly, i guess the crown would create some shade on the hair
yea
if she rest her head on her hands, wouldn't she be leaning and perhaps we may see her shoulders a little?
it the light source in front?
which may part her hair a little
yes
it did create a feeling of her seem to lift her head right off
it's a weak light i assume
yes
Iām not the best at drawing bodies so i just covered it with her hair
dim or how do you spell it
then i suggest you cut off the bottom some more
ah I see but I just want to point out from my perspective it would rather seem someone else is helping resting her head or someone lifting her head
alrighty
but other than that and the others suggestion, you are very good
because of the length of the neck and the non-existent shoulder make it looks super long
Its fine as it is. Mobius has a lot of hair and shoulders being covered like that is pretty normal
thanks everyone, iām gonna go work on this more now
have fun
it is fine for the hair to covered it but you do want to show some part of the shoulder
to not create a weird illusion of her head being rip out off her neck
even if she has lots of hair enough to cover, her arms would feel a little too long if I were to draw red lines to draw her upper body to the same position of her arms
though there also no line to make the hair seem to be in front of the body either
all the hair line just make it seem to be the inner hair one
so the hair covered the shoulder could be use if there are more lineart along with the shading make them slightly brighter than the rest of the hair
let me dump this here--
https://twitter.com/AoiNova5/status/1452675448958185472?s=20
siph do you have any opinion on this face
what expression are you trying to do?
Youāre missing the back of the head. You should make a clear distinction of where the mandible is, where it curves up, and where it ends. Mouth will typically sit a little above but almost in line with where the mandible curves up into the the cheek bones. So youāre mouth is too low. The eyes and eyebrows are sitting on two different levels and are at different angles. Inner corners of the eyes will always line up together and so will the outer corners.
she looks at you cheearfully
no ide how to do that
am i missing the back of the head or i just didn't draw where it seperates from the front
idk how to fraze that
You didnāt draw it
i did it in lumine head step
I just removed where it is
but I'll redo the whole head
be back in like 10min
@onyx breach do you mabye have a ref for "she looks ate you with a soft smile as you are tottaly care free in this world" face
hmm
You will see a bit of the back of the head but as you currently drew it you just have the face portion
alr time to redo it
no that's you aren't care free cuz she about to die while she doesn't slightly smile at you
that sentene oesnt make sense
it just Aki's depress girl fetish as usual
like this?
reverse this image and itll fit your face
yup
Left arm is bumpy
sel
wrong at
we ain't on arms yetttt
wait right at
ohh
The spacing between eyes looks a bot odd to me, also how the left eye ||our side|| looks like it's not affected tye 3rd point perspective?
Whole the rest of your head is?

you confused the fuck out of me
it just look like she is looking down
Visualise
At least what I'm thinking
I think it would be beneficial for you to place the ears in before you draw the eyes
Then you can line them up properly
Yes thats much better
It still looks a bit wide
if that's the word for it
Someone save me from my own tiny vocabulary
spacing between eyes
















