🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[smoky lintel]

I mean every sync basically is that even if it isn't the normal sync

[clear vigil]

[ember locust]

😭 Thelema's one is practical at least

[smoky lintel]

Well every sync is practical 4% DPS increase or 2% as a support is pretty good if you just don't care about the game on this level there are still other options, I would say they're still nice even in RL but ofc a bit overkill for EU. You can also choose thele wep as a personal decision if you're biased and feel like others won't benefit you from a competitive perspective

[ember locust]

The synergies seems really generic

But it's an upgrade

And at the same time, the skin won't come back for a while

[smoky lintel]

Well because they are every other sync has a trait off for not being generic and I think it's good for syncs not to be too insane, for example theles weapon does reduce her SP cost for her first ult but loses out on a 1% independent DMG increase per sync as a DPS compared to others though at the same time as a support she has like 1% more independent mult compared to normal syncs, RS also has like an increase in IMG pierce which is a bit insane imo

Keeping syncs this general just means that we won't have syncs that are absolutely busted, the only weapons where they don't do this are dkeys and honestly sometimes their syncs are a bit insane

[ember locust]

To be fair, DKs are for valks that were already out of the meta so it's kinda fair

[desert lily]

HoRb's and SW's are crazy

My options are a bit limited inside the spending event so

[ember locust]

I only need the brick in there

And it's gonna be in BP anyway

So idk what to do here

Bc I would like to get more Luna's stamps too

[desert lily]

Luna's stamps aren't going anywhere tbh

[ember locust]

So neither is Brick

[desert lily]

Yesh

[ember locust]

Since it's BP reserve

[desert lily]

Both are permanent

[ember locust]

But Luna can go out of the meta at any moment

[desert lily]

Technically yeah

[ember locust]

Also it seems like Supply Shop stamps are not going anywhere either

It's strange

Luna's stamps still not gone after 8 patches is crazy

Do we know if another valk is added to PWO yet ?

[desert lily]

Lamp stamps replace hers next patch

[desert lily]

Don't see anything for that

Lamp is getting stamps added to er shop and supply shop replacing Luna

[ember locust]

Wait 💀💀 Luna getting replaced after 8 patches

Welp I did well taking all of them then

[limpid glacier]

They should keep the stamps permant

[ember locust]

Yeah but at the same time, if there is too much stamps avalaible

Everyone would have valks at SSS with DKs

[desert lily]

Seems like Sena is staying for awhile

[limpid glacier]

Yes dream

[ember locust]

For SW, it's a thing. For Luna it's absolutely unfair

[desert lily]

They'll eventually get into WT

[ember locust]

Seeing how crazy Luna's DK is

[limpid glacier]

Im one more stamp for ss luna

[ember locust]

That too

[desert lily]

SW's is also
Each sync increases her hp loss DMG

[ember locust]

We already got up to HoHe there

At any moment, we're gonna get the Herrschers in there

[limpid glacier]

Time to put the trio there

[desert lily]

Can't wait for HoRb to enter there so I can SSS her

[ember locust]

If she's gonna stay in there for 8 patches, crazy move huh

[desert lily]

Despite getting replaced

[ember locust]

Thelema is also gonna stay in there for a big while

At this point

Before we ever get someone 's stamps in P2 get out, we're gonna get 5 valks's stamps in there

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

If that continues like that

[limpid glacier]

She needs to stay there so I can SS her

[desert lily]

[limpid glacier]

S3 and 10 frags

[ember locust]

I hope you have any shards

Bc she's gone next patch

Wait no

I thought you were talking about Luna

I thought too fast 💀💀

[tender grotto]

[abstract night]

Lunas leaving!?

[main goblet]

its sena thel lamp next patch
part 2 maxing

[abstract night]

Okay wow

Skip ez

Vita will probably be the best

But s2 sci...
Hm hard choice lol

[main goblet]

ngl might not be because she's partially powercrept

[abstract night]

Mecha lightning who

[main goblet]

vbs!

[abstract night]

Nu uh

[main goblet]

yuh uh!

[abstract night]

Besides its not like any other valk ...was good early rank wise besides thelema

[main goblet]

ehh i would beg to differ

but getting ranks early was still and is still considered spender/whale behaviour

because s is fine for a long term

until the ranks became free

[abstract night]

Sena sucks (atleast compared to her competition)
Lantern.
Songque ive really only heard eh stuff about
Sci s2 is.... ._. S2 is good for lv dps....butthatdoesntexistanymoreso
Vita s2 gives more breach and stuff
Sparkle s2 is actually more sp for team when she casts I am elation...and iirc TF on CA with an 8s interval

Thelemas r good

Theres always 40 atk tho!

[abstract night]

No I agree, i was just looking at the ranks as a "cool u pulled a double/got bp/etc"

[main goblet]

jds s2 is a bit nice, heard about ss being good but that's a stretch

[abstract night]

Obviously they all result in a dmg increase cuz of the 40 ayk but yk

[main goblet]

yeah but that would only really matter on their leader shill

[abstract night]

Iirc SCI's are completely dogcrap
S1 is ....okay
S2 is TF and Outside ar upgrade...which is irrelevant

Then theres like coralies early ranks
And

[main goblet]

might be unfair to judge since fdd is newer but i get u lmao

[abstract night]

Ill look at dudus

[main goblet]

sure

[ember locust]

Luna's stamps are leaving supply shop next patch

[ember locust]

Partially ? Lol

She's actually gonna be reduced to niche support cases and RoO

More like Mostly powercrept

[main goblet]

seele is still new, she might get nerfed so who knows
roo is the niche that isn't touched yeah

[ember locust]

Crazy how they literally didn't develop the RoO team that much

In DPS terms

Same for LoA

[main goblet]

roo room is very small

[abstract night]

They added fdd and helia(as support for fdd)

[main goblet]

we only have 4 roo valks
and that counts vbm

[ember locust]

The LoA Support is like an open bar

[abstract night]

Coralie Coralie Vita Dkey

[ember locust]

But the LoA DPS is like a closed club

Like wth

[main goblet]

loa is lacking in valks but we have 1000 hs supps

[abstract night]

Ws still got the most

[main goblet]

doesn't beat dr however

[ember locust]

Helia's support is a companion skill for Cora, not RoO

[abstract night]

I said that
Well the fact that helia is fdd only

[ember locust]

And GoI also have a fairly big support side

[ember locust]

WoD has also quite the amount of support

[abstract night]

lenme grab my thingy

Nvm

[ember locust]

WoD has 10 supports but 5 DPS

WS has only 6 DPS (counting new Seewe) but 13 supports

LoA has 3 DPS for 12 supports

GoI has 10 supports for 3 DPS

RoO has 3 DPS for... 4 supports 💀

[main goblet]

this is what we got working with lmao
(lmk if someone is forgotten or in the wrong place)

[abstract night]

Omniscient

[abstract night]

Ws has 6 dps
Sena Teri Sparkle
HoRb SW
Seele

[main goblet]

who would've imagined the day where ws is the main focus damn
imagine saying that during the loa era
literally a year ago

[copper shale]

who wouldve imagined they just stopped at grail and cant come up with anything new

not that grail feels new anyways

when 12th ring

[main goblet]

after apho 3

[short notch]

kinda afraid of a new tag

[copper shale]

nothing to be afraid of, kia elf outlived sonk aop atp who would've thought

[abstract night]

Songqueop is still universal elementally

[copper shale]

thats the same as kia

[abstract night]

Isnt songqueop better than kiana

[copper shale]

well ice is fake

[abstract night]

In ar teams ofc

[copper shale]

if sss

[abstract night]

Really?

[copper shale]

purely dmg wise it takes sss to be better

and then theres many scenarios where u just do 1 ring

now you have youyun who just straight up lets u do both

the only thing upside it has is the extra ari with sena in team and then ari regen on ss
none of which matters now with youyun out

but back then the extra ari was mostly useful for wod teams lul

but you have sera

[abstract night]

In all ar's?

[copper shale]

yes, because she dont have exclusive buffs

[abstract night]

Neither does kiana

[copper shale]

yeah its about your statement on the ring type

the ring type doesnt matter here, not that you would use her anywhere out of ws

[main goblet]

ngl surplus is a good potential new ring material
but they gave it as a bonus
its fun this way though
unless your name is ds only haver

[abstract night]

Nu uh
Kiana is universal (mainly lightning and fire)
Songque is univeral (elemental only)
I said AR teams, comparing songque and Kiana in any AR team...besides physical ofc

Isnt sss like purely ws lightning...

This probably makes no sense but hopefully it does

[abstract night]

Surplus ring
Buffs rings with exclusive buffs
If its surplus dps then they do stuff..idklol

[copper shale]

well if sss is lightning only, which i dont rmb, then basically when you ring, kia elf always more dmg then

other than ice which is w/e

[abstract night]

How is kiana elf more dmg?

In every single ring

[copper shale]

she gives more buff in ring

[smoky lintel]

Her SO buffs are better and sonque has no ring specific DMG buffs

Only ele/DMG type specific

[copper shale]

^

[abstract night]

Who has a ring specific dmg buff?

[smoky lintel]

Every aop besides sonq

Ig maybe sera doesn't at S? ( Don't know for sure) but at SS she has buffs related to AR tags

[main goblet]

tbf sq is an outlier

maybe bc p2 was new and all

[smoky lintel]

Yeah she def is

I feel like they have a much clearer idea of what the identity of an AOP is now

[main goblet]

like if sq was ws exclusive she would've been useful for horb too but lol

[main goblet]

mhm

they seem to also wanna dip a little on another ring but still focus more on one

[smoky lintel]

When LoA/GoI surplus aop

[main goblet]

[desert lily]

When Valk for those two first

[nova osprey]

Aint loa just have surplus by default tho

[main goblet]

loa doesn't really have a duration

[desert lily]

They probably can fill the bar quite quick though

[smoky lintel]

Nah LoA just basically has 3 or 4 short SOs during which they can also accumulate Ari you can't go over the 200 max thouz

[main goblet]

not surprising non of the loa girls have a finisher like all the recent valks either

thought i suppose its interesting that seele don't have a ult and a different finisher either but anyways

[nova osprey]

Nah not the outburst, doesnt loa activate outburst buff whenever those enhanced qte hit(the one that regens ari on hit, not qte enhanced by outburst), blue border and all

[smoky lintel]

Tbf no idea how they'd handle PS since she's basically always in SO maybe they'd only buff the augmented ascension provided by her stellar shift with surplus buff

[desert lily]

[smoky lintel]

Nah that's heavenly link, PS is in her SO all the time though because if she's the leader her qte provides her with an buff which is counted as if she's in SO

The others are only in SO after their stellar shifts since those trigger augmented ascension which is the SO equivalent in LoA

[desert lily]

Idk if they can really give an LoA a finisher unless making it a fancy looking Ult that did more DMG than their regular Ult considering LoA doesn't have a SO duration unlike the others.

[main goblet]

yeah that's why
can copy the book of most hs supports but it feels redundant

[desert lily]

[short notch]

heavily debating how much I want seele. this one is a doctor. I NEED A DOCTOR

[desert lily]

She's not seeming like a skip

[ember locust]

Not even sure they can do that, the AR itself relies on QTE's

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

v3 tmr

It only took them 4 days to update to v3

[ember locust]

Big Nerf incoming

[desert lily]

[molten coyote]

qua collapse reversed back to s0 and no need qua lead trust

[desert lily]

If only

[glass nacelle]

back to s0
need ss to get independent effect

[gleaming imp]

All I ask is buffs and her ranks from s1-ss getting stronger

[main goblet]

all i ask is to delete qua thx

[steep axle]

Omg qua deletion 2026

Would save the game from eos

Bring false got otto back to abyss too

[rain isle]

[limpid glacier]

That will solve all world problems

How much i hate qua

[main goblet]

i admit tho, sd is far more pain to deal without its type
at least u can evade to collapse
but god damn hoyo doesnt like qua at all

[glass nacelle]

Ez skip

[abstract night]

QUA >= IMG >>> SD
In terms of bruteforceability

Imo

[shrewd socket]

ever thought of pulling?

[desert lily]

I take back these words

[muted mauve]

as in valk or bosses?
Because if it's valk then SD due to no type counter

[abstract night]

Uhhhh bosses?...idk wym
It was on a scale of easiest to hardest
I probably could have formatted it better lol in hardest to easiest id say
Sd>>>IMG>=QUA

[muted mauve]

I was sking if you meant which valk type bruteforces the best or if which boss type is hardest to bruteforce

[abstract night]

OHHH yeah no i meant boss

[gleaming imp]

For brute forcing SD is the hardest for me since for qua and img I can just use someone who has bonus from the abyss buff or brute force with vita

[ember locust]

Bro forgot she can support WoD too

[ember locust]

The mechanic of SD is particular enough

It's like having a shield and the normal HP bar

[desert lily]

Tbh this was said before we got her AR tags revealed

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

[naive briar]

[desert lily]

[shrewd socket]

[old zinc]

Man Im missing the fucking XY sword but I want the PAWS outfit so badly what do I do

[desert lily]

XY sword is permanent attack

[shrewd socket]

PAWS outfit is temporary pleasure

[desert lily]

This

I said this multiple times
I'm getting sync 2 on new Seele's weapon then the equipment cards

[naive briar]

if you ask in gameplay the answer is always divine key attack buff

[desert lily]

Meta is what we always prioritize

[nova osprey]

If u get paws outfit now, then u probs wont get xys until next mini spend, but what if u also want the outfit for next mini spend, then u miss xys again, waiting for next mini spend, then wanting outfit again, missing again for next mini spend, then ull never get xys

[naive briar]

unless it is HoV and you will summon a green name

anyways attack buff is justice

[nova osprey]

If u get xys now u will be free to get the outfits for the next forever mini spend

[old zinc]

I didn't think my question would get answered seriously

Thanks regardless

[nova osprey]

[naive briar]

okqy then your answer is whel more

[desert lily]

[old zinc]

I kinda already knew that I had no choice but get the key but oh well

[naive briar]

pay for the server fees so we can f2p

[old zinc]

Im prolly gonna delete my HoYoverse account eventually

I think

[desert lily]

[old zinc]

Seele looks cool but idk if I wanna stay beyond that, imma have other priorities eventually

[somber egret]

[still vine]

[shut skiff]

Im sure we dunno for sure right now but will seele replace sena on ME rita's team?

i havent levelled my senas resources yet cause im waiting to get her but i might just not if seele may be better

[main goblet]

she seems like the sena powercreep in both dps and support
but she might get beta changes that make the comparison more iffy since this is v2 rn
but if you're low on resources and your rita team can still function fine then i would wait for later on
if you also have a lot of valks rn i would wait as well
just make sure you have resources for seele anyways

[shut skiff]

okok thank you. yeah rn i am poor, i use Rita with hle and ss thelema wich is good enough i think

[desert lily]

Using the same thing but my Thelema is S0

[shut skiff]

i may or may not have used my balls on her stamps when she was in bp

[desert lily]

Smh

Only used balls to get her weapon

[main goblet]

oh yeah that's pretty fine
if you didn't have a third slot it would've been awkward but you do have

[glass nacelle]

add lightning paros

[desert lily]

Another one-

[somber egret]

seele more buff

[glass nacelle]

nice

[glass nacelle]

look like they changed from reso to lightning

oh they changed ss skill to s0

[somber egret]

[glass nacelle]

she can fight qua boss at s0 now

[feral epoch]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HFJrs3-aIAA4fOb.webp

[glass nacelle]

the hp loss when collapse at s2 now

[feral epoch]

when translation

[somber egret]

Doing v2 right now, will post it after I added v3 as well

[desert lily]

Wait so QUA dps at S0 now?

[willow perch]

Thank goodness.

Would've been egregious whale bait, to SS such an ability.

[desert lily]

Yes

[desert lily]

Is it the DMG one and the collapse one?

[glass nacelle]

yea

[feral epoch]

what even is dmg type anw, useless type

[desert lily]

Yatta

[willow perch]

True make everyone typeless

problem solved

[desert lily]

Remember lyo asking why they haven't made a Typeless Valk yet

[glass nacelle]

lmao

[desert lily]

What's that?

[somber egret]

Seele stig seems underwhelming
There's less words

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

Spork buff

[desert lily]

Ah

[glass nacelle]

Fire ws dealer + 40% ele dmg and 50% fire dmg

[desert lily]

Only sparkle

[glass nacelle]

or future char

[somber egret]

[desert lily]

IMG/Bio fire WS ?

[somber egret]

Fire Qua 9.0

[desert lily]

Or replace spark sure

[glass nacelle]

ew

[desert lily]

He's back

[somber egret]

[desert lily]

SW HoRb HLE I'm guessing

[glass nacelle]

thelema hack ari again

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

her base kit got 30% independent effect against qua, s2 is 40%

[desert lily]

30% equal to using a QUA lead?

[vale granite]

Well, modern valks have extra buffs vs types they counter

[desert lily]

Ah

[vale granite]

So unless Seele has extra the answer is "no"

The TC itself is 30% independent though, yes

[desert lily]

She's still my answer to QUA since I don't own Teri or Spork

[ember locust]

Noice

[obsidian berry]

Ewwww

[still vine]

wow good because i still have no qua

the last type i still have nothing for now that i finally have a bio

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

Nice recommend qua boss

[gleaming imp]

Bronseele on top

[ember locust]

Is that a drawing ?

[still vine]

what

[quasi glen]

Seele functionally qua valk now

First double type valk

Can collapse 30% independent multi against qua enemy

What next, they're gonna make it so qua weather counts seele too?

Qua (and Seele) characters deal 50% increased dmg as a stage buff

[desert lily]

Doubt it

[smoky lintel]

If they just moved her SS skill to S0 she'd also have her qua enemy HP reduction buffed and gain some additional buffs against qua enemies, while being able to collapse herself

It's fair to assume that she'll kill SchI with this outside of qua weathers just because she's a never valk and by kicking out SchI you'd free a spot for another good support

[ember locust]

The pfp for Seele looks off for the game somehow

As if it was animation style

[somber egret]

Seele's stig and weapon is so biased towards Law of Ascension

why is dmg bonus numbers for that ring so high

[frozen cobalt]

Bruh seele is a qua valk now

[somber egret]

New Bronya LoA is waving

[still vine]

good

[obsidian berry]

Mei lock skill:

[glass nacelle]

I thought they changed from stig to wp but not

[desert lily]

What

[fervent hinge]

P2 battlesuits of P1 valks update their character model significantly

[desert lily]

Yeah

[ember locust]

Damn

[ember locust]

QUA and SD Valk

[somber egret]

Have not check v3 yet, but the v2 numbers are ridiculous

[desert lily]

[willow perch]

Still waiting for SSS-base rank Aichan Battlesuit

[main goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-staring-cat-cat-mr-fresh-fresh-gif-4714710619997780774

[still vine]

[desert lily]

She's a QUA dps now at base S0

[ember locust]

Khai working on copium

[main goblet]

going to dawei to tell him to delete qua immediately is temporary postponed

[lofty pasture]

honestly thats the best outcome we could have got

[ember locust]

Soon a PSY valk with the IMG DPS ☠️ and a MECA valk with the SD DPS

At this point

[lofty pasture]

makes u get her +2 really bad cause she covers 2 types now

[desert lily]

[main goblet]

[desert lily]

No ranks needed

[main goblet]

ew i would rather not the latter mech and sd are over saturating part 2 lineups now 😭

[ember locust]

☠️ We might have another QUA soon at this point, and if that happens, double QUA DPS is really gonna be something unstoppable for a while

[willow perch]

[ember locust]

Ayaya ayaya

[ember locust]

😭😭 I mean the door is now open to everything

[abstract night]

Img shill
Sd shill

Quawho

[ember locust]

SD Shill will live

[abstract night]

I hate sd

[main goblet]

just have valks have all types and we just ignore the counter mechanic

[ember locust]

IMG shill might die ☠️☠️

[abstract night]

Rita literally just came out

[ember locust]

And guess who is the only IMG shill ran currently ?

[abstract night]

Me

[ember locust]

You know what I mean

[abstract night]

ME

Rita

[ember locust]

The moment Rita's shill is gonna dissappear, there won't be any other IMG shill

Unless they do something about it

[main goblet]

well they can make another img valk lmao

[abstract night]

...a new valk?

[ember locust]

Exactly lol

[main goblet]

also dudu isn't done yet

[ember locust]

They might let Rita's DPS die in chill

[desert lily]

IMG ice and fire are still options

[main goblet]

hers is rare now but will still pop up once in a while

[ember locust]

The Dudu that is there every 32th february

[abstract night]

U could have said 30th

[main goblet]

instead of that we got the cooler sena

[abstract night]

Ice qua phys qua too

[main goblet]

basically qua and img have open slots
and fire bio

[ember locust]

Bleed SD

[desert lily]

No

[ember locust]

Yes

[desert lily]

Bleed RoO

[abstract night]

So what type?

Phys?

[ember locust]

SD

[main goblet]

ice

[abstract night]

Dmg type

[ember locust]

Phy SD

[ember locust]

I mean Songque is literally dead now, they can def pop up PHY SD

[abstract night]

I got PS (sd support) and LV

[desert lily]

Seems they're starting to replace Valks dps wise
Starting with Sena

[abstract night]

How did that conclusion happen?

We've only seen 1 patch

If it happens in 9.0, then sure

[desert lily]

Ask why Seele is SD lightning

[ember locust]

Buddy, you know Sena is 2 years old right ?

[main goblet]

yeah it's not farfetched now part 2 is getting old

[abstract night]

Ask about the lackture of new psy valks

[celest sinew]

Will we have dreamseeker avatar?

[main goblet]

dkey valks: :

[ember locust]

Somehow powercreeping Vita support too

[desert lily]

Hoyo lazy on that part lol

[abstract night]

New psy valks

I had to add new. Since like. Yeah

[main goblet]

message heard, VC dkey next

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

I dont want another dkey

[ember locust]

We just need to not have FoV DK

[abstract night]

Its already 50 atk behind for non whales/dolphins

[main goblet]

time for 💳

[obsidian berry]

And its still scaling

[desert lily]

We are still missing a Bio fire

[ember locust]

Please no

[desert lily]

So

[ember locust]

A need valk please but not freaking her

[desert lily]

You never know with Hoyo

[main goblet]

new hua trust

[ember locust]

Especially with the amount of stamps avalaible

[obsidian berry]

Here is ur ice stardust

[ember locust]

And the big ass release banner she had

[abstract night]

Who? Fuhua?

[desert lily]

That's elybad

[obsidian berry]

I forgor

[abstract night]

I wouldnt say huas banner was...that big

[obsidian berry]

Too bad to remember

[ember locust]

I still remember how it was possible to get FoV SS just in that freaking banner

Abyss was a mess

[abstract night]

It was a box supply banner

[ember locust]

Still

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

It gave u ss for the fraction of the pulls

[desert lily]

She's gonna enter reserve soon too

[desert lily]

Luna is next patch

[main goblet]

was it a similar format to adv?

[ember locust]

And now there is still 6 stamps avalaible and she's gonna have 10 more stamps thanks to Reserve

[abstract night]

Yesnt

[ember locust]

Yes

And no

[main goblet]

[obsidian berry]

Ice img i meant

[smoky lintel]

You got her gear from milestones on her actual banner

[abstract night]

I cant recall if the pity carried
But it has like milestones

[smoky lintel]

So you just pulled her banner iirc

[main goblet]

oh wtf

[desert lily]

Damn

[main goblet]

i need to see vids of that

[ember locust]

Free SS1

[main goblet]

doing that right before p2

[abstract night]

If u got lucky

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-choso-jjk-choso-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-10037971888755283102

[abstract night]

Otherwise u had s3

[desert lily]

7.3 being CNY no less also

[abstract night]

And had to pull more

[main goblet]

mhm

[obsidian berry]

Whel bait

[abstract night]

I dont remember (bc i wasnt there) but sw and vill v might have also been box supplies

Ik atleast one of them was

[main goblet]

oh ill look it up

[ember locust]

No no SS1 and that is if you got her S0 then gets the stamps in ER and take in account the future addition in reserve

The whales or the S3 havers can pretend to have her to SS2-SSS

[abstract night]

Oh
Mb

[ember locust]

And again I might be wrong in the calculations

Bc Valk option (that gives 5 stamps) + 5 Stamps + 6 stamps in ER = 160 FRAGS

[shrewd socket]

how much does valks change from v3 to v3.9999-?

[desert lily]

[smoky lintel]

That's what the banner looked like

On the left are the pull milestones

It capped at like 300 and the last few were some extra stamps

[desert lily]

So you could get all stigs without pulling? Assuming one was from a login box

[smoky lintel]

Mostly just numbers the big change seemed to be from v2 to v3 for Seele we can't say for sure though

[smoky lintel]

Yes but those are not all the milestones + log in box wasn't a thing

[desert lily]

Ah-

[desert lily]

Some of her skills did get changed around

[smoky lintel]

Yeah that's what I meant

[desert lily]

QUA dps at S0 is a nice thing for me

[molten coyote]

Damn I called it

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[desert lily]

Not dmg part moving to S0 though
Just the collapse

[willow pumice]

Amg seele first dual type

[desert lily]

[willow pumice]

Maybe veli is dual qua img

[desert lily]

[obsidian berry]

[shrewd socket]

honorary QUA just like PAWS is honorary OS

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

Called what
I dont get it

Did we get skills?

[abstract night]

OS?

[smoky lintel]

That (some of) her qua DPS shit gets moved to s0

[smoky lintel]

Omniscient star

[abstract night]

OH

[shrewd socket]

^

[abstract night]

God im stupid okay wow

[abstract night]

Oh
So we dont know yet?

[smoky lintel]

We do but we don't have a concrete translation yet so I dunno the details

[abstract night]

Oh ok

[smoky lintel]

But at least the collapse part is s0

[desert lily]

DMG and the collapse got moved to S0

[abstract night]

Wow

So she doesnt need ss to be a qua dps?

[shrewd socket]

no

[desert lily]

HP loss when QUA collapse is at S2

[abstract night]

Hm.

I would say move the hp loss to s0
But move the dmg back to ss or move it to sss

...no bias lol

[desert lily]

No

[abstract night]

Wtvv

I hope i lucksack s2 then

[obsidian berry]

Its 45% hp lost, s0 is gonna be broken

[abstract night]

Wtf

Ur joking

[desert lily]

Is it 45%-?

[obsidian berry]

[abstract night]

45% is insane

[obsidian berry]

30% counter, 45% hp loss

[abstract night]

Who made this character

[desert lily]

30% at S0
40% at S2

[abstract night]

I hope seeles name is Original Character

[obsidian berry]

Thats v2 stat anyway, maybe nerf in v3

[desert lily]

We're in v3 I believe

[desert lily]

Yeah that's been moved to S2

[muted mauve]

hoyo genuinely hates Theresa

[desert lily]

Seems like it

[abstract night]

You would rather just use sparkle for the instakill right? Than theresa
Or do u mean another theresa

[desert lily]

Sleepy probably

[obsidian berry]

Free teri in 10.0

[desert lily]

Would FoV and CE's gear be next to get added to Reserve works?

[desert lily]

After Luna and Brick

[somber egret]

hmmm Seele has lots of ways to gather stardust remnants

[desert lily]

Huh

[shrewd socket]

it's gonna be 2 years since SImp's release

hate where

[glass nacelle]

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[abstract night]

She got shafted so much 😔

[ember locust]

Actually might be the case

Then Thelema and VBm VBs stuff directly

Eventually

[muted mauve]

Releasing Sparkle right after her who does what she does but better
never releasing an outfit for her
pushing a character that can replace her in less than 2 years after release, earlier than most valks

[desert lily]

Kinda redundant to add VBm's weapon there but sure

[shrewd socket]

Sparkle was after Vita, not SImp

[feral epoch]

it's still after her technically

[shrewd socket]

not right after

[feral epoch]

better performance and usage than her already

[shrewd socket]

old vs new pretend surprise

[muted mauve]

You really do not know how to argue

[feral epoch]

and both can support p1 valks, but teri can only support lv unlike sparkle.

sparkle also has special mechanics unlike teri

teri also always get shafted in main story

[ember locust]

I mean chronological order and VBs weap was only pullable

[shrewd socket]

• P2CH5 wep box included VBm wep despite being available in CH1-3 rewards

[desert lily]

Wait what

[ember locust]

Yuh uh

You saw well

[abstract night]

Teri can support ALL lightning when ar is not activate
She can only provide BREACH to theresa suits when ar is not activate

Sparkle literally only supported FoV and Sirin
All the other fire valks were too old or they were hofi and got a dkey

Teri supported mainly lv, however she could support HoO (when she got the buff the next patch)
Also wasnt their a mobius weather where she was used?

Mechanics. Uh yeah teri got next to nothing besides consistent collapse
And also consistent breach (for theresas, mainly lv..basically only lv lol) compared to hotr
Sparkle gives more ults which is nice. And ignite

[feral epoch]

basically nothingburger support other than LV

[abstract night]

..she can support other lightning ..
Iirc she was better than lv unless lv was s2 for hoo (but like there was also eden for imaginary so )

[shrewd socket]

grown ass women vs Ms. Eternity

[feral epoch]

no one cares about hoo dps without trio

[abstract night]

What?

When I say HoO dps im implying HoFi dkey is the 2nd character, with 3rd slot being lv/sci/gd

[feral epoch]

chopped team

[abstract night]

No?

It was actually pretty good

[feral epoch]

it's not for nirv

[abstract night]

It could be used in nirv

[desert lily]

Senaover

[shrewd socket]

about time

[desert lily]

Is Vita over in WS teams?

[feral epoch]

about time

[fervent hinge]

This is false Sparkle wa a huge buff to my AE dps

And VG

Newgen

[main goblet]

VG in the big 2024+?!?!?

banger

[abstract night]

[fervent hinge]

I still need lord paramount for her

[main goblet]

oh

[ember locust]

Might be yes

[main goblet]

do you know if seele is passive as a support in any of the rings or if she applies her stuff fast?

[glass nacelle]

fast

[somber egret]

Stig Buff is perma active
Breach activates on Ult, Surplus, or Outburst

[desert lily]

Oh wow

So for WoD, just switch to other support then switch to leader?

[somber egret]

currently on AR Skill now, she has ar recovery effect similar to AstralOp and I think it stacks with AstralOp ar recovery effect

[desert lily]

Ah

[main goblet]

oh wow

[desert lily]

With every ar she supports?

[somber egret]

is why I think they adjusted youyun special ar recovery effect as well

[obsidian berry]

[desert lily]

Or just WS

[somber egret]

so getting surplus up with her is insanely fast

[desert lily]

Interesting

[desert lily]

Omagah

[main goblet]

is it fine with ds?

[somber egret]

Gandalf staff

[desert lily]

It still looks like she has a stardust crystal in her staff

[ember locust]

Hold on so in every AR that Seele supports there is Surplus now ?

[desert lily]

Just WoD and WS

[ember locust]

No LoA Surplus

[desert lily]

WoD has to have Rita

[shrewd socket]

pretty sure surplus is there even if not leader

[desert lily]

Doesn't her surplus only activate in the ring she is though?

[main goblet]

sw needs to be in ws to access surplus
mse needs to be in wod to access surplus
i assume the same with seele

[desert lily]

Seele would be the same as SW

[somber egret]

Did I miss or forgot something why is Seele giving Elemental Breach to JDS ?

[glass nacelle]

crit rate bonus

[somber egret]

Ahhh that part

Completely forgor

[desert lily]

Is that what Elemental Breach converts into for JDS?

[desert lily]

I see

[ember locust]

Lmfao Marisa

[limpid glacier]

Wait can seele do the qua stuff at S now?

[atomic coral]

honorary qua valk at s now

[limpid glacier]

Blessing for us qua valk skippers

Girl really being the everything valk

[atomic coral]

she does sd, qua, breach and your taxes

[limpid glacier]

Can she also do my exams

A must pull

[atomic coral]

skips your exams and just gives you a PhD

[limpid glacier]

[somber egret]

hoyo: let's skip 1 battlesuit for a patch and gave out all our best in the next one

[naive briar]

[vale granite]

Tbf it does look like they were cooking VFX-wise

At least from what I've seen

[main goblet]

now imagine what well get on the 10th anni

[naive briar]

you get a cabbage and empty wallet

[main goblet]

[somber egret]

[vale granite]

Can Seele cancel SO herself or does she need YY for that?

She can herself it looks like

[old zinc]

I assume herself

[muted mauve]

she can

[main goblet]

she does even tho it doesnt look like because she only got one ult

[old zinc]

???????

[main goblet]

you heard it

[old zinc]

SURELY qua characters will still be the leader right?

[main goblet]

u dont need to

[vale granite]

Sparkle on Fire cycles yes

Teri unlikely

[main goblet]

but its mainly used for qua leaders
if u donmt have u can bruteforce

[old zinc]

What the fuck

[ember locust]

She can

SD DPS
QUA DPS
Breach
Do your taxes
Be your doctor
Cook
Take care of you
And even say all the numbers of π

[atomic coral]

yeah teri has like nothing left

her weathers are seele's now

[old zinc]

Can I scrap her shit then Im desperate for mats

/j

[ember locust]

I saw it coming tbh

[atomic coral]

couatl is the only thing i can think of if you don't have sparkle

[ember locust]

The moment I saw that Seele can QUA DPS, she was cooked

[ember locust]

Teri was cooked from the very start

Teri was really the most worthless of the valk

@abstract night It's official your Teri is dead

[atomic coral]

teri was 1 foot in the grave as soon as luna left her team

now she's sleeping 6 feet under

[ember locust]

Sleeping ?

Naaah gurl is gone to oblivion, sent to Hell

[atomic coral]

permanent coma, the big sleep

[ember locust]

Deserved

She was really the most worthless valk of P2

[atomic coral]

when they made 2 qua valks in the same year, they knew one of them was going to be on the chopping block and it wasn't going to be sparkle

[feral epoch]

undeserved

all devs fault

[limpid glacier]

So glad seele isnt actually qua type cuz qua is so disgusting

Copeing with no qua chars gonna be so much easier

[ember locust]

Exactly‹ she was useless in almost every cases

Luna dissappearing of her team was a red flag

[abstract night]

Qua is great

[limpid glacier]

Misspelled terrible

[abstract night]

Naw i spelt it right

If anything sd is the worst
Coping with no sd is awful
Atleast evading exists for qua

[ember locust]

Nah you mispelled "shitiest"

[abstract night]

Theres literally nothing wrong with qua, whats with the haters

[gleaming imp]

I like qua because I have a answer to it now

[shrewd socket]

they always arrive at the worst time

[desert lily]

QUA Valks?
Yeah

[half shard]

yea , no IMG/SD its just bruteforce

but Qua has evade thingy

[shrewd socket]

still shit tbf

[desert lily]

Does waste a bit of time

[glass nacelle]

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S0 seele is just cope

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

Still need s2

Or use high rank teri

[desert lily]

[still vine]

SD is objectively the best type for a valk to be since nothing resists it

[glass nacelle]

*worst

[still vine]

[somber egret]

Better use a Qua Type DPS with her

She provides additional bonus to Team Leader when they have Type Advantage

[still vine]

wow I have none

[steady granite]

*best

it has the prettiest background and icon

[half shard]

bruteforce Lightning Quantum boss with Sparkle , or use Seele instead ?

no teri cuz broke

[still vine]

join the club

[desert lily]

No Teri or sparkle cause I started the game after their initial runs

[rain isle]

[shrewd socket]

no teri or sparkle cause i had to skip them for more important valks at the time

[desert lily]

Teri came before CN anniversary and Sparkle came before CNY, makes sense

[wicked crest]

Just wondering about when will the new Seele in the pins come out? Is it early July or later?

[willow pumice]

25 Jun

[wicked crest]

Omg Marisa I've been watchign ur videos since 2022 hahaha

[twin dune]

right after i m done with exams wowie

Depends how fast i can get 18 pulls for SW weapon i might pull seele. No idea what she does but seele is seele

[willow pumice]

good luck with ur exam

[twin dune]

Ty i ll start on the 2nd of june

Hopefully i get enough points in my first test to kinda... Ignore the exam

but we both know that s bullshit. Anyway we re allowed to use our laptops you can guess what the entire class will do

good luck to you too moriso

May your wallet be full and your pulls be blessed

[somber egret]

Seele does not give Breach Buff for Fire World Star ?

[desert lily]

?

[somber egret]

They moved Fire DMG Trait condition to be under Wheel of Destiny

In exchange, Fire DMG World Star deals 40% more Total DMG and 50% more Fire DMG

[desert lily]

[gleaming imp]

So still a sparkle buff yes or no?

[nova osprey]

Nerf because u need slow bita for breach

[gleaming imp]

That's a win since of course I'll be using sparkle with her bestie

[desert lily]

Vitabad

[gleaming imp]

Vitagood

[nova osprey]

Bita slow

[shrewd socket]

therefore, vitabad

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

Where

I still see fire trait

[somber egret]

It's under Wheel of Destiny now

together with Physical Trait

[desert lily]

Wtf

[glass nacelle]

Oh right

[rancid plank]

Horb nerf?

[desert lily]

Probably not

[glass nacelle]

Hrb who

[feral epoch]

wod for who

lamp?

[desert lily]

And JDS I guess

[main goblet]

jds and lamp comeback?

[glass nacelle]

All wod can get breach

[peak aspen]

do we know if 8.9 will have chapter 13 or maybe an EX chapter?

[obsidian berry]

13

[peak aspen]

oh nice

||I was expecting chapter 12 to be the end of the arc but seems like theres more to it||

[glass nacelle]

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[umbral spoke]

+2 free wep syncs

i assume most used supports are probably the best investment for that

nevermind you can't even hit the goal for 2 syncs without whaling

[desert lily]

Kek

[umbral spoke]

its just 1100 tokens total

[desert lily]

Yeah

[smoky lintel]

yeah but free +2 seele and she looks like she'll be used a lot lmao

[umbral spoke]

probably yes

[desert lily]

Gotta buy the bundles to get sync 3

[smoky lintel]

nuh uh only 1 sync per wep

[desert lily]

Oh

[umbral spoke]

SD is like the opposite Qua, versatile af

[smoky lintel]

and seele is both

[desert lily]

At least the QUA skill isn't fucking on SS anymore

[smoky lintel]

i hope i get s2 for the qua buff lmao

[umbral spoke]

where is the collapse on?

[smoky lintel]

s0 atm

[umbral spoke]

yeah but skill

[smoky lintel]

ugh weapon or CA idr

[desert lily]

Weapon and CA

[umbral spoke]

so a free double

[desert lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435687797626634241/1502631692966297670/tap_ugc_5.webp

[desert lily]

It's on starting animation

The downward attack

[umbral spoke]

okay hoyo genuinely just wants to erase quantum valks OR a quantum valk that overshadows seele will drop later

[desert lily]

Dark Seele

[smoky lintel]

i feel like we'll just get a qua valk in 9.0 and seele will stay as a teri ender

but we'll see

[desert lily]

Yeah

[umbral spoke]

also my guess, i just hope she doesnt die as teri did

[desert lily]

She'll still have her SD shill

[smoky lintel]

if hoyo wants to they'll find a way to shill a valk that's not the problem tbh

[umbral spoke]

i just hope the MA shill dies down a bit

not every new boss needs to only have the newest valk as the solution

[desert lily]

[desert lily]

She replaces Sena in WoD and Vita in WS

[umbral spoke]

well... I'm getting sena wep for just ER then..

[desert lily]

[umbral spoke]

as for vita

YES FINALLY

HAHAHAHAHAHA

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-14887144685173519659

[desert lily]

Buffs are passive
Probably still need to do her Ult for SW but yeah

[smoky lintel]

i've heard there were some tweaks to her breach conditions so better to wait until she's live to come to a conclusion

but vita is slow af i doubt she'll stick for long

[desert lily]

True

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/sparxie-hoyoverse-mihoyo-honklai-star-rail-hsr-gif-6569464363405313241

[umbral spoke]

hsr 2 crossover

oops, sparkle *2

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

At this point Seele is literally a Teri ender, Sena ender and Vita support ender

Who will be the 4th character to be powercrept ? Lantern ?

[limpid glacier]

Seele ending lives instead of saveing them

[steady coral]

Is P2 Seele a good match up with Nex+DivKey?

[ember locust]

https://youtu.be/JUWNEzaTzss?si=lvlIIp605tRA4vlq

Well

[warped socket]

Sw living the time of her life

[somber egret]

8.9 CN BETA TRANSLATIONS

• Patch Note: https://rentry.co/89betachangelog
• New Character: https://rentry.co/docseele
• New Equipment: https://rentry.co/docseelestaff
• Elysian Realm Update: https://rentry.co/89elysianrealm

[nova osprey]

Lets gooo tl

[limpid glacier]

Still mad they didn't give her a alternat8vr ult finisher

[ember locust]

☠️☠️ Seele deleting 3 layers of Quantum as if she eats at a eat competition everyday

[steady coral]

Damn, do i still need to pull HoRb div key?

[smoky lintel]

thx cabbage

[limpid glacier]

Her greed is immaculate

What next she can delete img cores

[ember locust]

TBH Both Seele seems like an incredible duo

And she's still a good WS support

But if you pull now, it's backpulling

So not adviced

[steady coral]

So... Keep saving for P2 seele? ( at reserve: 30k)

Does Nex Divkey + HLE + P2 Seele works?

[smoky lintel]

ah i see what the breach condition is lmao this is nasty, no breach for sparkle for some reason ? lmao

[nova osprey]

Seele: wife(T)

[smoky lintel]

but why though she barely uses vita anyway

[limpid glacier]

Yea

[steady coral]

I see, so keep saving for P2 Seele

[desert lily]

So seems I'm running double Seele in HoRb dps and SW dps

[smoky lintel]

oh wow s2 looks big for qua

[desert lily]

[limpid glacier]

Seele stonks

[smoky lintel]

wtf

this is big for tripple SD

[desert lily]

New Seele FWS HLE?

[lofty pasture]

its s2 ?

[smoky lintel]

nah base

[lofty pasture]

s2 big for qua ?

[smoky lintel]

yeah

top one unlock at s2 bottom one get's upgraded

[desert lily]

I thought the 30% was S0

[smoky lintel]

dunno if these are the s0 or s2 numbers

[lofty pasture]

wut da

and s1?

its breach and something else ?

[smoky lintel]

breach and some dmg upgrade via leader skill

breach seem to be the major part

[smoky lintel]

it is s0 btw

40% s2

okay this is all s2

what in the s2 bait

[desert lily]

Kek

She seems like she could have been a CNY or CN anniversary Valk

[abstract night]

Wtf
This is so cheap

Just make them qua

..or dont do this but wtv

[fervent hinge]

What kinda bullshit

Collapse state duration increase too really

[shrewd socket]

surely we all just get double seele in a 10x

[fervent hinge]

If there's any patch I need 2 cards by accident its gonna be this one

[shrewd socket]

accident

[fervent hinge]

By pulling 10x

[abstract night]

Me too pls

I need to keep my qua usage

Not be smacked

[fervent hinge]

I know you can't slip and fall onto the gacha button we have a whole copypasta about that

[abstract night]

What?

[abstract night]

Oh kewl seras fixed

[glass nacelle]

lol 8.3 er

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

Lmfao basically you only need one more copy then skip to get almost every buffs

LucksackMan, WE CALL YOU

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443563542593667113/1470993874322329600/ezgif-45441945cad37914.gif

[ember locust]

Would have happened tbh, last year it was Helia+Cora... And it was just as good

[glass nacelle]

vitaover

[rain isle]

I am not sure I understand the vitaover

[umbral spoke]

doesn't this just say that Seele's ARI restoration skill isn't the same mechanic as Vita's?

so both can benefit with their special mechanics

[mighty nexus]

will there be a new serapeum aop? (story spoilers) || in the newest story i saw her in another outfit hence why im asking ||

[umbral spoke]

Youyun replaced Serapeum already

in most possible cases

[mighty nexus]

oh ok so probably just || an outfit change that means nothing ||

[umbral spoke]

who knows

gameplay-wise it wouldn't make sense to replace serapeum with herself

[umbral spoke]

oh

okay i skipped over that part

[glass nacelle]

and vita is lower priority

[umbral spoke]

okay i see

vitaover party

[naive briar]

[untold marsh]

She's had that outfit since 7ex iirc

If you're referring to her ch12 one

[mighty nexus]

oh ok i didnt know since i dont really do story, i thought it was new

[untold marsh]

It's all good, it's just her outfit from back then

[willow pumice]

wow interesting

[rain isle]

Omg

It is Moriso

[desert lily]

Saving that

[rain isle]

SeelePanik

I have thus obtained more power.

[willow pumice]

the devs rly said dont use vita anymore

[desert lily]

[rain isle]

I mean I'll still use Vita

But Seewe stonks (yes I'm hella biased if you didn't already know)

[thorny spoke]

bruh wtf is that amount of skill upgrade from S0 to S2

[molten coyote]

who stonks

[thorny spoke]

so S2 docseele or busted?

[molten coyote]

no

[molten coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/seele-petting-pet-take-care-shower-gif-10131494550839356009

[limpid glacier]

Vita left in supporting sad right of oblivion

Seele enacting her revenge on vita

[old zinc]

Any stigs getting added to the foundry?

[feral epoch]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HFJrs3-aIAA4fOb.webp

[solar surge]

https://tenor.com/view/vita-sparkle-vita-honkai-impact-3rd-vita-hi3rd-honkai-star-rail-gif-9013416720883297679

[glass nacelle]

Look like no

[small wing]

Misteln's stigs got added

[glass nacelle]

Ew they don't mention it in patch note

[main goblet]

damn hare that forgotten?

mei set (TA's) there when

[desert lily]

Mei set probably next

[glass nacelle]

Kira gear when

[molten coyote]

kira gear for the once a decade ice clock

[glass nacelle]

https://b23.tv/iphrmCQ

[old zinc]

It got added this patch

[main goblet]

oh
banger

[desert lily]

Oh nvm

Kira is next then

[main goblet]

wyverien didn't show for some reason
so i didn't know

[desert lily]

Cause we skip HoRb due to reasons

[old zinc]

They didn't add DW stigs tho

[desert lily]

After Hare

[old zinc]

I guess

[molten coyote]

they really edging that p1.5 useless stigs

[ember locust]

DW ?

[old zinc]

Hare

Dreamweaver

[old zinc]

Kira stigs are kinda big tbh

[ember locust]

??

Hold on let me check

[old zinc]

Only MEI got added this patch

[main goblet]

okay im confused

[molten coyote]

last time she got used in the last like 2 years was on this ice clock cycle

[old zinc]

Bigger than DW or any of the stigs added in like the last few patches

Cause there's an actual abyss use

[ember locust]

@old zinc @desert lily You're both blind

Kira's and DW's stuff were already added either this patch or last patch

[desert lily]

In foundry??

[ember locust]

Oh you meant foundry

...

[old zinc]

That was literally my question

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

My impulsivity is gonna kill me one day

[desert lily]

I know Kira's gear is Reserve works
Same with Hare and her gear

[old zinc]

They've been in Reserve works for like forever now

[desert lily]

I think Kira's got added last patch