#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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Okay so u cant instaring
its pretty close
U either can or cant
feels ss teri. that 3 ari gap from chenxue felt like years sometimes
its only gap because ur closing ring early
u can if u do full SO
u do full SO, u can immediately SO again
but we said full SO is trash
So who does the out of SO dmg for sw
u dont u just wait
SS sera seems like my best sw aop atm
i mean there's SO CD but i would imagine that's mainly handled by transitions
but let's say you have to deal damage during that time.
is the CD short enough for you to be busy while stellar draining with everyone?
DS/Chenxue for me right now 
2.5s cd
At S
basically what happens is u close ring immediately after bronya thing right
then you do the drains on teammates
then by the time you finsih drain on bronya and proc her reso out of SO
ring is fully off cd and max surplus
When its full
I remember Chen's being an SSS skill
7.5s in total then
Cuz sw reduces it too i think
it is
i was gated by it because i'm only ss
still need ss
Doesnt sw have finisher in base kit
yes
Or is it literally just horb
dmg and ari
Ari Regen?

But literally all youyun is missing from not having ss is finisher for old ws valks...and inital ari
the initial ari here is pretty big considering the valk does nothing out of ring
Im gonna embrace ss sera
oh they changed this? https://i.imgur.com/DpUJvL2.png
is the significant ARI regen after outburst on S and not SS now?
because this is on S too https://i.imgur.com/dgNtw91.png
Well that's interesting
Sw vita Thelema 
it's going to be interesting to see how things change if much or not much at all from v3
vita 
I think u still use vita anyhow
Its morelike
Thelema 
thelema is cool and vita isnt so its still
vita 
I'm likely gonna do SW HoRb HLE
@copper shale this should be fine for rl right? 
Absolutely

In RL you sneeze and get T1
My brackets are complete bullshit sometimes
Doesn't mean that they know how to play
I keep getting slacc RL brackets 
Im screwed slightly anyways
I play on mobile
the main ari regen is s, but ss has the initial ari that lets u hit surplus.
no ss u cant get surplus easily and slows it down quite a lot
her ari regen is also dependent on hitting surplus
so there's that feedback loop
but also lets not forget that she lets other chars close ring lol
Samsung galaxy a51 5g good? 
this skill is only relevant if you are out of combat because it doesn't stack while in combat, so it gives some ari off combat
Im gonna pretend like i know what that means
Me who's playing on a decade old iPad
then for u, idk, realistically since when is na rl competitive enough for it to matter
For some reason I seriously get the worst brackets

i do think theres hand issue in there but also like
ss youyun letting other ppl close ring is a pretty big deal
and then sss youyun giving 15 ari instead of 10 ari for free after surplus
is also pretty big deal
To whale
and also again the thing is u want surplus pretty bad, and kinda need surplus to begin the rot
therefore ss initial ari is pretty big
That's her SSS Regen Skill
they moved to s
screenshot Sairan sent can't give ARI off combat when prereq has to be in Stellar Outburst and needs to trigger Youyun reso skill
ah read it wrong
This one seems meh on paper compared to the old mechanics, but it's actually good in practice, especially on ending SO faster and when targeting to get 2 SO
oh i didnt read s youyun here, nah sss
U need sss to instaring?
to do this
That makes more sense
this what i mean by insta ring
Ok so no instaring at s got it
yeah i realise technically neither is truly insta ring in the sense close ring then ring again
but i was thinking relatively

Thats what i said
Either it is or isn't
yeah took me a while to realise what u mean

Need a spoon
Ugh
Ill just skeep then
Should probably save anyhow
Need dat sw dkey and 8.9 valk
..whoever it is
I need to stop skeeping anyways
Hi uhm
how bad the the gacha for the SW dlc, im new
uhhh shes free fromt he selector so i only need the DLC but i was wondering what the oity is
S youyun not worth?
60, as is all weapons
s aops never worth
ohh
is there any cac on how many pink card we get that version
calc*
I mean some of them change gameplay coughs in teri
Still needs SS for 2 SO
Also wasn't s chenxue enough the Benares abyss that just passed on glb for the fast 2 SO? I swear I saw refs that were just s chenxue
where ref
in nirb it was all ss+
and if rl, then aop prob didn't matter too much
Hey so should i get SW DLC? ivebeen playing exactly for 14 days and i have, Xentinel Mei, her sig, and Badum Kiana, and im saving for the "???" character on Meis talents but im wondering if i should get a second team?
im gonn abring up again the fact that i can claim SW since i havent selected yet
Gonna be waiting a bit for whoever that companion skill Mei has is for
i REALLY want it to be like another Bronya form to makelike a part 2 Trio team lol
Elybad
I don't see any reason not to plan to at this point
It's cheap and you've got lots of one time sources left
I mean
Wdym?
Sure it probably won't have a lot of staying power but unless 8.9 is like double valk or something it'll be fine
And it's a dkey so it's always gonna be bonus flat atk
One time sources of crystals
As opposed to repeating or event crystal sources
I'm assuming you haven't managed to complete all of honkai's story in 14 days anyways
Oh yeah no def not
I'm pretty sure that Honkais story has a total of nonstop 14days worth of story content 😍
Yeah so you should have lots of one time sources left
I thought it's s skill at first
They just change order or sth
In combat, I remember seeing S Youyun doing shots "when the valk emptied QME" but is dealing no damage

BGM - I Can Hear the Festival Music
V3... 3rd place... 3... hmm...
Notes:
- RIP personal damage. You will be missed.
- SSS Kalpas is basically an abyss fight lmao.
- All DPS are SSS+3 for fair comparison. Same reasoning for sync 3 supports.
- LoA remains the queen of MA. Oh how I wish SW DLC could have brought her more time fracture...
...
Mimis new vid 
mimi video appearing after 103594396 years

wth @terse ravine you jinxed it

What jinx it's real 
imma fight you 
Not me i want playable SW 
Sw lv 999 yes
So even on her boss she's trash
N E X T
All she is for 10 attack 💔 may v4 save her
bad moot pls demote


demot or not they are still coming at me holding forks and seasoning 
so what happened to bronya?
Got giganerfed in v3
And is losing to PS and HLE on her shill bosses
The catch is that the comparisons are being done at 12S
And SSS PS/HLE and SSS SW are absolutely not the same cost-wise
Well it does matter
It just matters less
And bronya seems to need astral ops much more than say peregrine sword does
Good thing i own neither of them 
I'd say "professional acc bricker" but that's Drya now
Rude
Whatd drya do
They're planning to only pulls ADVs in the next multiple patches
The only adv i might pull is sparkle wep
Is it useless?
Probably
But i would gain like nothing out of it. So win win
I could slay on that sparkle shill..whenever it is
They’ll probably shill her a few times next patch but if you don’t have youyun probably still bricked
Sparkles is still a good loa support for badum right? 
There are better options
Darn
If ranked
Youwho
U wont need 2 SO in rl right?
The quantum bosses r weakish (compared to other bosses) in terms of hp and if ur using a quantum unit
Ye
Well even if i do
22.5 ari should be enough right? 
Sparkles is still a good ws support for teri right? 
probably
yay

Save Bronya please
Is silverwing actually gonna be good
when has she ever been bad
Or is she gonna need sss
For years now
I can see that
Wasnt she sad on release?
How shafted is SW from V3 nerfs?
Who reruns after raiden and Elysia?
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The fraudest of DK of today vs the fraudest of DK of history
In case you missed it, here is another creation of mine
is it that bad tho?
wait its bad?
Fraudnya is that bad though. Ok tests were done at SSS for Kalpas but even like that, I'm not even sure Fraudnya ChickenPoop will take that boss at all
it's pretty bad yeah but i doubt they'll leave her untouched in v4
At lower ranks of new valk
her v2 was simply too op and they nerfed her too hard

V3 nerfed them pretty hard, I'd see what v4 has to see if there's a good middle ground they find
and a lot of comparisons are also done at SSS vs SSS which is simply unrealistic, even v3 is prob not that bad on live servers as it looks in the testing
BRUUUUUUH
I JUST SPENT ALL MY SPENDING EVENT SHIT AND VALK BOX TO GET HER TO SS
IM BEYOND COOKED IM DONE FOR
I love how we got to "Wow the proudest and strongest DK of today" to "the Fraudest DK of Today vs the Fraudest DK of History"
what in the english did i read
i mean nerfs were to be expected that's pretty normal for v3, they just hit her too hard, v4 will fix some things all of the doom posting really does nothing unless she's bad on live

Considering the amount of backlash, it's not unreasonable to think they'll buff them to a nice balance in the next beta version
But we'll have to wait and see
In short, she's fraud
i wanna know how bad tho...
like vid comparison bc me not bothered to overthink skill dmg diff 
@main goblet
dang, supposed trio as in sw dps?
^^ @main goblet
Not really, it would have been an alternate team for FWS
fws/xdc/sw but i havent really seen actual numbers on that
just mere statements
oh dangg
we wont really be able to tell how good she is until live anyway
who knows maybe she will be broken again
oh yeah, i dont think that will work bc fdd exist

the team was actually pretty decent, you also get some breach and it's pretty fast
More like how bad

oh the kiamei breach?
i really doubt they'll leave her at this point, and if they'll just buff her a bit she'll be like the other dkeys and have her niche and be good in that but okay outside of that
I think the doomposting is devolving into "I wish she remains bad even at live" and that helps nothing
For real
yeah, i could see it being useful on the mobs weather they're pushing but we'll see
i was epecting her to be nerfed bc v3 and also old asf valk
but this is intresting
i was expecting like lv or horb performance if u get what i mean
yeah i'm expecting that for v4
hmm
Manifesting sw dkey gets buffed to hofin dkey level

LV is doing way better than SW or HoRb if you ask me
horb is way better than LV, horb syncs are extremely good for WS and her tf in MA is insane while LV is kinda locked to ps/paws
LV dkey is kinda whatever tbh
Her DPS is okayish, she's really useful in MA as a support but Abyss eeeh
There is that indeed
they just need to push WS more and well we're getting WS surplus
true
yeah she's trash in GoI but you can't have it all
I mean we could have gotten almost nothing, like in HoHe
yeah the impair nerf was pretty unnecessary
Or have it all like Kiana HoFi
hoh is a good emotional support wdym
hofi dk is a mistake
they did it once and never again
Hoh has something as a support in GoI outside of being a tank bot which is ice benares 
tbh i agree that hohe dkey is not that great but just based on the value you'd get out of her with her shill she actually was really worth it, hoyo is just shilling her a lot for some reason
To think I've ranked her to SSS just for her support to be ass except in GoI
DPS I was confident
oh btw for paros and ice benny in nirv do top scored use hoh support?
Can we have dps hoh shill, I miss hoh ely bosses 
she's still getting regular support use cases like once a patch since her release over a year ago
benny yuh paros pretty sure not
For real, I miss them too, just like I miss Thelema shill. Thelema was way too fun
wait who are we taking about
that msg of mine is for hofi
Oh, I meant HoHe here
oh
I got my hofin to sss, no regrets on her and i use her often still
i don't miss any of those shills
ic ic
Elysia is well one of the big mascot of Hoyoverse after all, they're really proud of her
my hoh is prob stuck at s2 lmao
same
I wish my sss hoh got more bosses to use on for main dps hoh 
no reason waste time in SSS HoHE
I mean I did it as I bought her BP, got her dupe card and her stamps in PWO
no dps hoh bosses tho so interesting
but ig its something if hoh can be support for 2 abysses
ass but not too ass when i see it that way
Like a good simp
i was thinking ss hoh from wt but im farming for sw rn
have not touched reserve and pwo yet
Funny thing is that I'm farming both Ely just to get Luna stamps when she will be in PWO AND also farming SW at the same time
XD
maybe ill at least get sw to ss from wt
ill keep the boxes until then
I still haven't spend my tokens in the spending event
oh dang bc theyre sss alr? i use le to farm pwo lol
Waiting to see how it goes
Yes both SSS
yeah wait for now
Bc nothing is good lol
give to me instead 😁
SQ worthless bc of powercreep, SW is currently bad + dead valks
What a freaking genius spending Hoyo
im still temped to get s sq but idk ill prob get youyun
but also im not too convinced to get sw frags with it
i need to know the first bosses of 8.8 at least
FR I'm thinking the same
i can get 4* kia with the tokens too but eh idk
I'll wait a little to see if I try to get HLE S2 or Youyun
elf frags also useless 
useful for me
I mean when you have the AOPs, KiaElf ain't that good
im like 37 frags from 4*
no its 70 smth and i need 37 from box
brain is not braining rn
i uhh blame it being sunday idk 
pretty useful for me as an gachaopless person
if i had p1 teams theres that but that doesnt matter anymore
lol
Yeah nah KiaElf died
I didn't bother with KiaElf since mine was 2*
And literally got S AOPs so...
will take long to 4* ye
did u get 2 star from the elf box tho?
Yup and it was a while back lol
yuh
8.0
i only got 3* kia thanks to 8.1 spending
ill 4* her at some point bc she can cover niches that youyun wont
but im worried s sq will be useless for me tho
also i hear here that youyun not so good for wod?
ig thats still better than ds tho lol
Songqueop is still a nice generalist elemental support
Songque can support loa and wod..
What a cope
I agree SongOP is great as a generalist elemental support
But Songque's support is frankly one of the worst in WoD and her support in LoA is only used when FWS shill
Well the alternative is
Coralie¹
Assuming u have no other options
Besides the spending event is just a bonus not a goal
In Wod, you literally have HLE whose one of best support of that AR if you pulled her in her patch. Plus there's still Vita
If u spent 44kish to get 4/4 mei and lv dkey
Then gaining an extra support is nice
OFC but you want to make that bonus useful
If you use it
if u pulled rita aswell then
Rita could work too
U have 2/3 supports instead of 1/3
not rlly
its nice to have more valks esp for ma but many new peeps wont have a team that uses jds
unless they get her sig for potential dps use ig
Theres not much else u could get so :')
Bp technically 
sq aop is still nice for those peeps
unless they only care about rl and below
rest is ass tho ya
Id rather get songque than songqueop
Just for the supporting capabilities
sw from frag shop does exist but honestly those same ppl wont be worrying about ranking their sw asap
i would only reco based on that person's valk list and goals
Yeah
im talking about new players, not u
sorry
we can consider sw frags but i still see a depends (tm) here
its okkk
I mean i never got sw stuff till this patch
So i could be considered new in that regard 
Just subtract 3 ranks
..ish
i got sw from 7.8 box
and never ranked bc there was no reason lol
until now
im not too worried about sw ranks aside from nirv
some oldges or onya lovers will be there
maybe not as much but theyll exist
I feel like i would just get screwed over not having it
i mean u can farm for it but idt well need sss asap
even is sw is that old
if u got nothing to get from wt then u can start alr
I dont got anything else beneficial to fsrm besides maybe HoH but like lol
im just not sure if its worth the spending tokens
sw frags then
u alr have hoh?
ull get ss2 sw by 8.8 (per minimum)
Yay..
Per minimum?
I hope i can cope with ss sera
skipping youyun?
Id rather confirm 8.9 valk..whoever that is
Or get sparkle wep
sparkle in 2026
did you open the S rank box yet?
but i mean, sure
ull know bc the supply will be over surely anyways
Yes
but having ss sera is decent
And some spare change
you could get frags from spending shop
aw man
I picked broyna from that box because I belive in v4

I could have picked ss hotr..
you'll have to make due with ss2-ss3 on release
Well atlest ss3 and sss arent much
why is everything on this patch so useless
yeah its not much
Tickets and valk box with one Dk user and one future dk user, spending event is sad tho id say its moderate
But global annis were always kinda sad tho
an useless aop, an useless valk, useless stamps, 2 useless boxes
I mean.
I mean it all depends on ur account
So what's useless or not will matter account to account
if you lack aops, songque s is a straight upgrade
SS songque is nice for me cuz I skip aops, got to get sw to sss faster and some tickets for the next patches so its kinda nice for my acc
Oh and gonna get some pick tickets some week

yeah in red "you don't need aops" lotus
Aops can still make a difference in red lotus though
they do make a difference
Aops can make a difference also for the kind of boss
aops will be the norm asp
just not now
Like this current boss for vita 💔
anyone in redlul and below with aop have incomplete stuff with their account ot not that good
the good peeps went to nirv
And I got promoted to nirvana so it hurt even more that imma just demote and pack it up
but when aops become more accessible, theres a chance theyll be more normalized in a sense that more ppl will care
for vita its not just aop
Vita bad
ranks too

I suspect serupuim next spending maybe
one thing that made aops feel meh in rl and lower is the 1SO rots yea lol
The boss is very annoying I always hated that one so much
but ofc theyre not just ari machines
currently s0 with chen ss at 21642 and i'm somehow 9th
because vita had god knows how much value that everyone got ranks eventually
well not everyone
chickenbad
but you get the idea
Didn't she have an ascension supply also
ye
yeah
Last patch
Nirvana players dont play with you 
normally when evaluating avg ranks ppl have on valks, reruns arent counted
but ye
this is why any abyss with her dps is just cursed for s0 players even with aop
i mean i can retain, with luck
After I saw everyone and their mom w SS Chen I packed it up
my point is just that you have to consider valk's history to know how nirvana cycles will go
I only ever pulled for songque wich I got in one free ten pulls and Thereasa cuz fomo
Only for loa to only have 3 valks 
3 main valks and like 5+ supps*
honeslty it might get another valk b4 new ring lol
Not even a dk loa user 💔 we are overdue

2/4 stellar keys have HS
Yeah now that we have our 3rd GoI valk, they might do a LoA or WS valk before doing a new AR
HoFi - WS RoO
HoH - WoD LoA GoI
HoRb - WS GoI
LV - LoA GoI
SW - WS LoA
3/5 ws
1/5 WoD
1/5 RoO
3/5 LoA
3/5 GoI
Why 5 ?
HoH goated (not in support effects 💔)
Oh DK couting
5 stellar keys
5 dkeys
all she has going for is her leader
well we have 4, but yeah loa is the outlier rn
And bow
useful on 1 boss
thel gaming
Atleast she was useful for that one boss this patch
bow on loa tank
P2 SP battery
Thelemarketing

Wheres the meme again
i really hope bronya doesn't turn out like hohe

wait do we have 4 goi uh helia ely mei and uhhhhhhh luna
#🎮honkai-chat pins
was luna goi
In v4 we trust
yes
@umbral spoke Soon this will be a pin, my proud creation

p1 ice ranged unit w/ dk vs p1 ice ranged unit w/ dk, i dont see the difference
LMFAO for real
Why it's always Ice that is suffering
Please don't let the Tsarista influence go on

Atleast that one cc said alot of testers r teeling hoyo to buff our girl 
Hle snatching everyone's wig 
In v6 we trust

Thelema:
Then v7
Thelema is the only one that is not suffering with new Ely
What?
I belive new elly is sabotaging everyone
I hope hle falls hard
surely there were other overnerf incidents before
I'm sick of hle 
Prepare to be in the kitchen with salad
Sci and lv have done nothing to the extent of hle (pt2 wise)
Right in front of my salad?!!!!
Cannot belive you
U cant even cope on hles weathers
Naaah you're getting in with the salad

right here officer! flashbang em with the ult!
Idc, she has her own niche
Hle is literally everywhere
I said Theresa, not Luna
Im tired of it
Theyre both theresa
I ask who should I use and they say hle 
Why cant it be coralie
:(
I actually own fdd sooo
Gimme support cases pls
Uhm
So vita and
Vita?
HLE, PAWS, FWS, PS, Vita, XDC
OwO
Which is great, she's literally one of the best supports currently
Is coralie even bis with ps?
Ps is weird
it depends on the boss
Terrible 
Seen FDD on most of PS' bosses
Just tell that's because you dislike Elysia
Same for Vill-V
No, I like HoH
Dont get me wrong
I like ely
I just dont like hle
if you don't like every Elysia battlesuit do you rlly like Elysia?
I mean. People can like a specific character at one part of the story and dislike them later in the story
Right?
no
Okay well wrong answer smh
She's Jesus
That's mother
ok so you see i hate kiana but i like badum
i dont like other kianas fr8m design to personality but badum just looka amazing and i love the way they write her
i also didnt like mei at one point maybe I was jealous of kiana
I promise I know I sound mean but I mean this genuinely
averange HoV fan activities
i mean its not much of a hatred i dont like her
she shares a half with my fav character too 💔
So we expecting hoyo will buff SW yeah?
Ask lyozxwings
hello, anyone knows who's coming after the banner ends?
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For Carnival : Cora Helia then Vita Kiana again
Wait a minute, did I just saw Dudu ASC ???
So they really skipped Sparkle
Whaa
Yes
Double IMG week
Wth
Rita rerun and Dudu Asc 
What a coincidence
So either Sparkle ASC is getting it next patch
Or she's just Sena's case lol
Drya still hoping for sparkle Asc
I want sparkle asc :)
I want sparkle asc too
I think they just skipped for this patch so it could be on 8.8 for YY shill
If no sparkle asc then save the funds for next big spending event for tokens for vita stamps 
No Vita in spending probably though 
Last time it was songue lamp and before it was senawho thelema, so it should be simp and vita stamps available in next big spending event 
And I see a senawho dk as well since she is being obtainable for free 
Though not excited for it since senawho gameplay 
Too squishy, too clunky like pick a struggle
i want rita 
But dkey updates kit anyways so
yeah so itd still be senawho gameplay 
Hopefully it makes her not squishy and clunky anymore
But shes invulnerable

I would like her gameplay to be consistent and not inconsistent and actually working
never pulled sena but i loved in the story when she would just miss a WA for no reason and the entire rot is dead
I love pressing wa because that's what it tells me to do but she just does the yoyo throw and then stands there and I have to reset run
If u have ss problem solved 
Or I press it too early because I have to actually wait a moment for her to register the change
ill have to see how many stig dupes i have but i might grab senas wep and then craft her stigs if i have enough 
if they run an abyss where i need her at least 
Truly the p2 Valk of all time
wait does that topup event have a level 50 weapon upgrade coupon lol
imagine not having honkai shards 
I saw a background costing like 2500+ bchips am i looking at it correctly? Why is it so much
The Arc City one? Ye
But you also get the same amount of crystals
iirc it was 2680
Between HoHe and SW who should I pick from the selector
my HoHe is SS2 and my SW is like S2 and I plan to get her divine key next patch
just keep the box
Why
there's no rush to use it right away
SW is in WT and there's still like 6-5 weeks left for 8.8
I mean she is in WT but if I get 50 shards right now from the box that decreases my grinding time to SSS by 5 weeks which is kind of a lot
I guess I was inclined to use the box right now because the only non-free Valkyrie in it is HoTr so the box is effectively a 50 free shards selector
HoHE ranks won't do much atp
Getting more ranks on SW is worth if you're a Nirv player
I guess I can hold it just in case a valk from it gets a divine key in the future and I dont wanna tank the 800 ancient legacy cost to purchase them from WT
I mean, you wanna be buying WT valks regardless
Cuz ER xtals
And Dorm EXP if that's not maxed yet
The only valks in the box I don't have yet are Aponia Nyx HoS and HoTr 
I kinda wanna use it on Aponia and bank on her getting a stellar key actually

Hoh dps shill/boss Where? 
benares was ur chance
on benares I was the only HoHe dps user in my bracket 
literally everyone else used HLE
and I still got the top score
I was in RL like SS2 R2 HoHe and I outscored the HLE users 
well rl brackets r slack

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Pls
Random ass question, but would SW DKey still be better than FFF in P1 ice, or would you still want FFF?
Whos fff
P2 better
For P1 ice?
Fff is quite old
Noice
Also why would you need p1 ice
Cause Im kinda cooked on Kalpas

No HLE or MPS for Rime Trauma
Sw kiana mei could work probably
Yes
Yes
HLE where
Doesnt exist

no rs demoot
I’m just gonna use trio

Gonna use either PS or XDC 
p1 gear needed for p1 team
except hofi's dk, waxing is used in all of her teams
but using a p1 team in 2026...
Time to use waxing hofi with hotr+cn
Or hotr sprokle even


Shame they never did the sparkle dudu simp type Valk for ice 
honestly ice barely got anything
Because kira was more recent than cn prom and eden

the p1 ice dpses we got got dk
Only 4 ice valks in p2 with sw dkey
Wait ppl were telling me DKey was better even for P1 tho
so they take all ice shill
p2 set in p1 team vs p1 set for p1 team
p1 set wins unless youre called hofi since her set is made with trio and hoo dps in mind
the rest were made with p2 teams in mind
and horb dk lets her stay in dps mode when not in goi teams (and her buffs in set team are for goi and ws) so u cant utilize horb support with her dk
idk about luna but ik her dk lets her breach be lighting dmg
I dont mean the full 4/4 just the weapon
even then p1 gear would be best for p1 team except waxing
but ofc u dont wanna play p1 team anymore
That performs even worse no

i think theyre tell u to play p2 team
because theres no reason to go for p1 gear or team anymore
I dont have Rime Trauma valk for Kalpas so I was thinking of crafting N-EX TB
Erm um actually back in the day during early p2 bronya zaychik 3pc 🤓
Until I realized I could just bruteforce w HH


nah not worth
Cutie frens 
And more recently sus ovt ala mb on bita for ps

For kalpas I'll just run sw thelema vita
https://youtu.be/p7xsjvEJ1nU?si=1YP3Qv63E0loFmBV but if u wanna see gear comparison u can look at stuff like this
still, not worth gettinf p1 gear for this
00:00 What I use
00:20 AR OFF, Stellar OFF
01:13 AR ON, Stellar OFF
01:50 AR ON, Stellar ON
02:54 Results
03:14 Longer Battle
03:32 So that's it~
Luna Divine Key - Julius Caesar
Bloodied Casket - Sweet Dreams
Lunar Vow: Crimson Love
Raiden Mei
Xentinel • Dawnbearing Crescent
V8.7 8.7 CN Beta
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Where horb, how could u not use sw with horb
That’s the problem I was facing
No MPS or HLE for SW against Kalpas

honeslty idk sw enough to give suggestions
True 
I know obv the P2 is better
no the calc shows the gear comparison in p1 teams too
Oh
so u can tell p2 is best with dk
p1 is best with og gear

https://youtu.be/fQOWnRJuE3c?si=dbiEblFuFtTMnhmY this one for horb for example (v2 tho)
but u get the point now
00:00 What I use
00:25 AR OFF
01:14 AR ON - AR Charging
02:04 AR ON - Stellar
03:05 Result (1)
03:45 Different Supports
05:28 Result (2)
06:02 So that's it~
V8.5 8.5 CN Beta
Seele - Herrscher of Rebirth - HoRb
New Divine Key
Aristophanes
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Music:
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I think Luna’s case is a bit extreme cause she loses her old ult w DKey
Oh another one
she does have her old ult but in loa
but yeah anyways u can tell that the dks are not made for p1 teams
waxing is bc it was made to make trio relevent and advertise hoo lead team
HH bruteforce is probably better than P1 but I feel like Im still pretty fucking cooked
Sigh
nah p1 got no chance here
I know it would be better to just take the loss but the problem is that Im taking too many losses cause my account is in shambles
Ts is so ass

i mean ure a returnee
but honeslty ure not as bad as many returnee
many of them return to nothing
Eww unc kebin
you unc 
I was once a returnee that only come back to do some free pulls and dip cuz i got nothing
But now im still here even when i got bad stuffs
Anyways will there be major consequences if i dont use SW with HORB dlc?
Also how does her dlc help her cuz imo her base is really dogwater
sw youyun showcase
https://youtu.be/LJ1OyKNOYiY?si=pgwTfowSWqO3EQb0
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00:00 Intro
00:12 Kosma 829 (Hababi DPS)
02:15 Kalpas 827 (SW)
04:20 HOC 829 (SW)
06:21 Nihilius (SW)
08:21 Marut 855 (Rita DPS)
10:12 SA 829 (Sena DPS)
11:47 Valrahal 790 (Theresa DPS)
13:47 Wardens of Tower 815 (SW) ...



Is not having horb dlc rlly bad cuz every SW dps showcase pair them together
Can i use like sena + hle
Idk how bad it is, or if its even bad, i dont have access to them test server

Im gonna be coping without hle so :')
And if i need rime i need to pick thelema.
But you have horb right?
So hopefully they make her have stronger detonations so thelema can speed through
Yeah..
Yeah cuz hle/thelema is flex meanwhile horb isnt in all of the showcases above
I hope there will be new seele that can buff SW
Also from the showcase above, does SW seem too OP?
She was in V2 but she got nerfed in V3 but idk which beta version Hieu recorded that 
Ah
But she still aint bad right?
Thelemas worse than hle tho
Apparently
But no showcase using senadina
Probably still decent
We still got V4 though 
As flex
Hle cant evade mald like thel tho 
Why would u use sena tho
Cuz no other choice
Sena is just hella ass as ws support
Im brokie brokie
The only thing she gives is breach
Then coralie?
Unlike in wod where she is omega op
Base coralie
Id probably
Try sena like a time or two to compare her with coralie¹
Otherwise id just stick with coralie
As dps or as sup?
Sup
Cause she doesn't hit the field unlike she has to in WS I believe
Well u can its just terrible

Its just pt1 sena but basically worse
I used sena ws support before. It wasnt fun
Sad buffs and bad uptime?
Istg my cycling with luna + kira + eden is always f’ed up
Moreso slow
I dont know about her ws buffs tho
Id have to look
Oh also the fact u cant detonate all marks with sena iirc
Cuz shes the 7.3 ws and not 7.7+ ws
Teri, sparkle, horb can trigger when not leader
Idk the technicalities for sena but yeah
Lazy teri?
Ya
Should i get her from the returnee gacha?
No
Though i dont think its efficient
Agh sorry i need to reword it
There we go
Fixed it
7.7+ ws means any ws valks released after 7.7 (including 7.7)
Potentially new seele?
Idk
Is new seele the one we see in the fragment event just recently
The fragment puzzle something
Last panel
But also a lot of valks have domain resonance not just ws valks
But that wont be efficient, atleast they wont be better than ws valks right?
Valks that can support ws: Helia¹ Coralie¹ Sena Thelema Lantern Teri HoFi Vita Sparkle Badum HLE HoRb Mei
Wdym
Most of the time ws valks arent used for ws supports, for now at least, sw might change that
The ws main ring valks we have arent usually bis besides specific scenarios
Such as
Teri Sparkle Thelema (on specific quantum weathers when u have enough dmg)
And more recently
HoRb supporting sparkle on fire kosma
Why
that's P2 Seele
Is the last panel not horb sitting on a grass field
panel = puzzle img?
the yea horb touching grass
The one with only seele and zooming in her face or sth
wait didn't the event end?
oh that's P2 Seele
P2CH9EX i think?
we have no way to know
we don't even know if this Seele will be a valk or an AOp
She definately will if she has a valk, but we dont even know if that version is getting a valk or not
Hmm but this is like a teaser right? That she will be playable soon
Sorry english isnt my first language idk how to describe it
Tbf VBs is WS also
it's literally just a story CG


Think we got HLE teaser on the patch in the event
we also got P2 designs for Rita and Durandal in their ST. Freya uniforms
So technically SW + coralie + helia is a thing?
but they haven't done anything with them besides CGs
It “works”
Kinda
yes
They both have DR
you could consider Sena as well since she's free in that patch too
Didnt dudu got that smol dudu for p2 valk?
Both IMG
It probably doesnt tho, helia doesnt exactly detonate marks, well she does like once, but never again 
Tbh she's also mostly for lightning WS
Nah they probs wont be getting new ones for a while
Not for a long while
Sena VBs SW or SW Sena VBm
7.7 aahh team
Lol
Sena ws support is 
wanna go breachless?
XDC FWS PS
Luna FWS PS
Going back to 8.3 
VBs will help but probably very little?
Should be fine tbh, as long as its not rl or above
im assuming RL
Sena vbs sw will def be better tho
A rank Helia
Ohhh
I said I was gonna run SW HoRb HLE or SW FWS XDC
Idk yet probably the former
Valkyrie Boltstorm
They aint reaching rl with just sw sena vbs vbm in this economy

Then whos FWS
Im kinda bad at remembering names
But again, my question of “is SW doomed without horb”
No
no characters in this game aren't doomed if you don't have a certain good support
as long as you have a compatible team, you're fine
So who would you guys advise me to go for
I will roll for SW no matter what soooo
I think i kinda need some support valk that can support SW and do good on her own
Basically versatile
well every p2 gacha s rank is a dps support here, you just need at least 2 with the domain resonance tag so they can support SW
mei has the tag so you can use her if you already have her

so should i go for HLE when she rerun
no
we normally don't recommend going for reruns

especially if it will get in the way of your dkey pulls for sw
why go for skin without the character
especially if the skin costs 9600 xtals total
I actually did that, don’t remember for whom though, cause I was intending to backpull that char later
and it worked out
i stopped at 5k
still wasteful though
im 33 away from mei and 19 away from weapon
should I ?
idk if mei is going to be good with SW
she is, she has the resonance tag for sw
so i just need who the hell that has resonance tag?
yeah that's how team building works here
id consider skipping XDC considering we're halfway this patch
bruh but what about rotation and compatibility and etc
if they have the tag that supports the leader, they are compatible
WS rotations are pretty straight forward tbf
Hm?
what kind of teams i can make?
im planning to get 4/4 mei also
i came back after many months
i guess WS with HLE Badum and Vita
HLE isn't WS
oh yeah mb
whos hle
shes GoI Dps
assuming you get XDC:
XDC HLE FWS
FWS Vita XDC
Sena Vita/FWS XDC/HoFi/HLE
Vita HoFi VBm
Elysia
wow so many
yeah cuz you have many valks
is there any character that i must get at their rerun?
no not really
U dont pull reruns on this game, like ever
^
i see
we don't really have must pull characters

