#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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those two are her ca 
still her CA has no stack limit
but not the fully charged ones
so uhm just started fresh on global server. what can we expect after mei?
CN is currently still in 8.7 so there is no 8.8 news yet. When there is though it should get added to the pins so you can always check on those
ohh i just saw. for a fresh player does the spending event provide anything good to chose from?
Not really tbh
so not worth spending more then top get mei+ weapona nd the 20 supply cards?
Songque valk can be nice depending on what's in 8.8, but hard to tell without knowing that
Yeah, spending events are almost always just a bonus, not a goal
but i would need to spend 45k crystalls for that right?
Also, if you manage to snag Lunar Vow this patch you should get her new weapon as well
already got luinar vow
wsell someone told me the new lunar vow weapon was free 
you might wanna grab songque aop/JDS, songque AOP can be nice for some general elemental support and a bit of ari regen if needed but jds might see some use as a future support depends on what's in 8.8
in general we should know what's in 8.8 when the spending events ends so there's no rush
we can give a more precise answer then
950 score
I know hoyo is up to something but cant prove it 
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yeah fun game
s2 1600 s0 1550+
wtf smol senadina
one of these is not like the others 
sera?
ok 2 because calorie is also full size too 
Theresa?
Teri and Coralie 
oh I guess 3 then
yeah most of them are small versions of characters and then there's those 3 that are just always small 
https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/73611601
Kiana Figure Video
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How come hi3 socials are now always posting a few minutes late 
youyun too
isn't that like the past version of her and there's a taller version of her somewhere too 
prof yy is the same height
oh 


when is the next feb 29
APHO in 2028 
tf
What Feb 29 though 
Is lunas wedding dress gonna stay permantly in the outfit shop after time capsule is over right

The free outfit box thing only starts in week 4 😔
Idk how to ask besides here, but, what is DLC in HI3 and how does it work exactly, i'm making an attempt to come back to the game
Wait time capsule stays till week 6
Do you mean as in Divine Key or Stellar Key?
Fuck it both
I see you're a hsr player so in hsr terms a divine Key is a noveflare to revive a Valk in meta, this novaflare is gacha and requires 60 pulls at most to pull and grants your account a global +10 atk
I played HI3 before HSR 
But
thanks for telling me
I honestly forgot about divine keys
We have no info about that
Np 
Oh, well i'm still coming back
Official info that is, and unofficial is not allowed here
I'd like to catch up on story after part one ended
I would want a hotruth dkey tbh for another trio Renaissance
The revival in question is usually pretty weak (the valk becomes niche) or short-lived
If only all dkeys were hofin level
Well, HoFi is mostly dead atp

Girl has been bruteforceing for me forever since I skiped Rita and dudu
Same since I vertical invested heavily into mine

Just if you have got the trio since their debut and got all their freebies you would of been able to have em all at SS by now
Mines is SSS+1 hofin and ss2 4/4 hoo and ss 4/4 hotruth and ss chenxue
Seele's new design
BronSeele 
Dare I say prettier than horb
Where is that came from
hyperion lounge
Lol
hyperion tongue

the Bronya dkey is waxing
Lmao 1207
Bronya?
hotruth dkey please
I would say seele as a possibility but they're not besties on the level of kiana and Ely is 
What the flock
Like
I wanna say you’re wrong
But I can’t
you're wrong
Hate how true this is

:slap:
I could explain it pop terms too


…
Go on
In pop terms this is the equivalent of buying a deluxe version of a album
And now back to our regularly scheduled cn gameplay discussion
What boss does this chat think will run for sparkle asc shill 
Hopefully not the stupid Fire Kosma
Tonatiuh probably
Wasn’t there another qua boss?
for a fresh player how good actualy is mei + Luna vow?
in this?
No, that's Carnival Supply
Starting from 8.7 Starter Supply will feature Dracora and Badum
and both is the best partner for new mei
and how good is new mei actualy?
Skip = bricked acc
Saves alot of time on bio mobs
Less playtime the better
in rerolling u mean and not if its jsut a normal fresh account?
If you don't want to reroll, is fine
whichever you get from it
is far better than luna
far better
is xentinel gonnabe a good beginner pull
yes
awesome bc my acc highkey bricked
well char alone not gonna save u
and i fw mei so its perf
anything gotta be better than what i have #tbh
u need weap
hi my current team is love elf, badum and planet armament. If i skip the new mei. Will it affect anything?
well it affects ur abyss yea cuz she gonna be shilled
So it’s recommended to get her
yes
Is she like extremely broken
no but, she like most p2 valk atp, she has her own niches, and then has a couple weathers u might want her as support
I see, so she will help me for the next like 2-4 updates?
is this with ANY kiana and ely battlesuits?
probs, any p2 valks u pull from now on, will prob see usage across next few patches yes
great, i will aim for her then. Was wondering if i could skip her to get ely’s skin
prob but it means little since ur not going to be pairing it with any kia /ely
well its just wat u r more focused on
if ur more casual then feel free to go for skin
Skins r just vfx, u can live without it for some time bc it does nothing in battle but look pretty
Ofc if u just really want the skin then get it
I just like it since it looks pretty, but i want a swift gameplay so i will get Mei
Mei is also pretty anyway so i will get her
can the new mei work with whatever i have here?
i just started cause of mei so planned to pull her anyway
but she strong enought aht it bricks your account?
Rita Bday 2026
its more exaggerated ig
u be fine esp in eu
she ur typical p2 valk
p2 valk?
EU is more casual then NA?
she gets her own shills, so on weathers that shill her and u don't have her, then it feels like ramming ur head into brick wall, but then she probably okay for some other weathers as support.
idk perhaps other way around or not, I don't play in either of those server
NA more slack
fuck....should i switch to NA then? since the acc is only like 4 days old
is up to you
That be your decision 
i mean i guess with more slack u mean abyss is more casual?
It can be unless you're in Nirv
Well the any other option for P2 Kiana and Ely is HoFI and HoH tho. Well HoH can work as well since she have Grail tag
And if I'm not wrong HoH does function quite well as Grail's support doesn't it?
She's still kinda meh
so exaclted nirvana is still sweaty
but the ones below are easier to stay?
yeah, but at least she's not really in bottom tier like in other tag she support
Nirvana is also exclusive to Superstring (Exalted)
EU and NA are relatively equal tbh
Which is sad that she's the only ice for LoA 
It's really more up to your preference and the server resets
Since abyss/MA/daily reset/ER all upon up on different times for you then
Well it's reserved for obvious Bronya in Mei's ??? skill

well i just asked since one said NA is more slack
NA might be a bit more slack but not by a lot
The real diff is Sea vs EU/NA but RL is still manageable there
Tbf we still have a bit higher dist than EU I think
Yeah
EU is also pretty easy if you know what you're doing
oh yeah since lore channel have conversation on going, does CN main story already have update?
quite unusual doesn't see wall of black bar in lore channel
Most of the people in RL just don't really get the full potential out of their team, so once you have a decent roster and kinda now what you're doing it's pretty much a cakewalk
You might have to take a -100 trophies here and there but that fixes itself with time
Same can be said to any server 
Yeah it's just more noticeable in EU/NA
Makes me wish I didn't overkill on the side stage last cycle 
talking about teams. is it true that i should pull for dracora/badum?
3 days ago
ah that's why, time to dive lore channel 
You can try to get either of them with the free carnival pulls but going out of your way to pull them with crystals isn't the best idea now, especially if you wanna focus on Mei/LV First
just wanted to be sure since i heard multiple things from multiple ppl
Iirc you or someone else also had some discussion with sairaan about this earlier and I'm pretty sure they covered this better than I could lmao
yeah. i just wanted to get one more "helper" opinion. since saiiran didN't saw the CN discussion
yeah, getting another opinion is always valid 
so just pull mei + gear and then LV gear?
Yes
Pretty much, you'll get more Mei/LV supports down the road by just keeping up with new releases
Which then will also expand your coverage ofc
The more Valks they release: the more shill you can cover 
kk. and is it true that as f2p u can usualy get 3 of 4 new valks + gear?
with only 1 or 2 skips a year
Yeah with average luck, as a beginner you have a bit less income but your leftover one time crystals make up for that. With about 20-25k crystals a patch and a full geared valk at 42k max pity you can pretty much get 3/4 releases and if you're extremely unlucky every second release
With 30k crystals it's ~75% chance you get the valk + their weapon iirc
kk cause i remember back then before part 2 anjd at the start of part 2 i always was told "hoard cause u can only pull 1 or 2x a year"
P1 was a lot more brutal in that regard from what I've heard yeah, I wasn't really a meta player back then so I can't give you any actual opinions on that but P1 banners are gone atp anyway
gacha was different back then in part 1. valk was 100 pity and equipment was 200 pity and equipment pity didn't carry over
Yeah ~6 weeks to ~9 weeks but the patch increase happend 1 year after the p2 launch
and signature stigs weren't craftable
Equipment didn't? 
Nuh
pity reset

Well you had to hard pity those also 
if you miss 1 stig and the valk reruns, it's back to 200 pity

naruhodo
i only heard that from 1 source few days ago when i saw the mei trailer and was like "I WANT TO GO BACK WITH A FRESH ACCOUNT"
just wanted to be sure i got the correct information
People could pull more frequently back in p1 but it was more focused on gacha only gears for the farmables or just the supports in general. You kinda steer clear of most dps only gacha valks
Yeah, we also calculate the future patch lengths by subtracting the left over BP shop time from the new BP shop of that version - the BP shop that was added last patch to get the length of the patch after the next patch. if you're interested in that
Good of you to get a second opinion btw.
This wasn't fun 
oh i think i heard from that. where a dps valk was powercrept like 1 patch later
and the only vlak that was meta for around 2 years was YATA
Nah power creep wasn't the issue. The issue is they just go niche shortly later. It's still true now
But in terms of replacement i don't really expect it until maybe 2 years later. Very loosely speaking.
Things might be more different now too but it's still too new to say
i hope one day they will give senadina for free
i only started my clips channel i'm having fun with now cuase i wanted to make senadina content and thats how i got my name^^
so would be great if we get her for free one day too^^
like luna
Keep an eye out for her in reserve work bp shop from this point maybe. She last showed up in a paid bp (sena)
oh nice. btw bp not worth it until thursday, right?
But also check out attack >events>tactics class for tutorials. You can play trials of most things there
Yeah. Too late now for this patch. Make sure it's a new bp cycle when you buy it.
she will also appear in WT at some point but this will take multiple years from now on so this probably wasnt the kind of free you were hoping for 
I'm not an expert on bp though so refer to whaling guide in beginner channel pins
nah more like how lunar vow was free
free part 2 is normal now since we got thel in 8.5 spending and well get jds in 8.7 spending
but if she'll be in there too is unknown
that's if you don't wanna wait for WT and reserve but at least all valks will eventually be farmable it will just take a long time
I do not recomend diving onto the lore channel.
Rarely actual story engagement.
well i guess there was that one raffle too but meh
yeah, we can only hope but trying to predict hoyo is always something rather risky so i can't even really give my prediction on this
we're not even sure how they'll handle dkeys once they're done with p1 units so
maybe if she ever got one we could get her for free but in the end hoyo can be pretty random
every time i try to predict a pattern it just feels like hoyo does the exact opposite so i kinda gave up on that part lmao
huh? isn't that what a lore channel is supposed to do?
I somewhat did with the when Valks gets DKey, they get a new battlesuit in CNY/Anni 
justice for seele
i NEED goddess senadina...
Yes
ok new lv battlesuit it is 
captainverse 2

captainverse 2 before apho 3
Golden Courtyard
bustling holiday something
according to some ppl here idk
wasn't there for the old events
Bustyverse is what I see some call it 
yeah lol
bustling holiday symphony i think
yeah

had the best event imo
sidescrolling event with kevin shooting things with a minigun
and senti shooting fireworks
the what now
Marisa called it that
The events between 8.3-8.5
btw marisa honkai still relevant as guide channel?
good for patch news
but not for guides anymore?
for guides it's not as detailed as others
also sometimes you need to see boss refs to know how to use the team on that boss
oh well marisa also shows the kit too if you wanna see it before its live
are there still these detailed guides written by the community?
yes
theres in pins for example
There are times where I get combo’d into getting kicked to agony, but I pretty much immediately go back up to RL the next rotation
what is on returnee right now
for glb it gotta be jds (songque valk)
but for ppl returning next patch and are eligable for it again then theyll get sci (sleepy teri)
ScI terrible returnee
This sci hate
At least she's stylish, plus her weathers didn't came back as much
that's just not true lmao
at her release patch she was still BiS thele support + best qua dps
Okay well 1, style is subjective and irrelevant
Teri can be used on all qua weather tho
Lantern is only really good on her own bosses
even later she saw a very niche whel use case as a sena support if we're being very strict
She is better than sparkle unless it's fire Tona and Kosma
But if anything
Thelema returnee gross bc you need her wep
also technically if we're talking relevancy she was relevant until now because of LV
given her bosses are really rare lmao
Thursday
we're in CN so not really 
Shhhhh
Also dont u use them together anyways
If u have enough dmg
Would say situational 
And use thelema as 3rd
Cause I've seen Teri Vita HoRb before on Reso Vita
depends on the boss, rank, atk etc.
Yeah if u got enough dmg 
But anyways
Whens teris outfit
HoRb such a good WS support 
then it also depends on the boss, in nirv on vita you'd still want to use vita + hofi
She needs a new outfit
Basically everyone but her got one
oh actually last vita was thele + horb lmao
but ig that's also dmg dependent

Rip breach
Still hope 8.8 is at least QUA 
If not, we're due for a new PSY that isn't a god damn DKey
nah time for mech b2b
Bruh
Qua shall be soon
8.9 or 8.8 has to be qua
If its not then da pattern is ruined
trying to predict hoyo smh
:3
Have u kept up with next patchs beta? ...well i guess live now lol
Since it is live in cn

How dare u
i'm just kinda going with the flow in that regard because often times people are still cooking when the valks are new
so maybe they'll discover something that insantly makes them a lot better
LV has shitty hit count
bruh tf did they do to her
anyway we have PS for that now and from what i've heard you wanna use them together anyway
bleed stacks do be nice
I probably should have done a typeless dummy lol
And her ult has atf right
Did it get worse.?
(Assuming support lv ofc)
Well ig loa . Bc she has her fancy ult regardless in goi
..huh
Seems so if they're using PS support for a tribunal on CN
Dudu would never want lv unless its last choice (unless theres another loa thats worse?)
Badum..uh i have no clue but none of her bosses need hc...atleast not that i know of
Ps. She got hc and she gets exclusive buffs frim lv cuz shes bleed so ._.
Thats how i see it atleast.
I could be completely wrong lol
her ult just triggers normal tf, her special ult has time frozen domain though
she's kinda just a ps and paws support
WAIT WHAT
Her SO?
She lost the atf on old ult?
Also she has the old Ult in LoA as her shift
it's GoI so you wanna spam ult so it makes sense
oh on that idk wait
Oh hehe yay
That makes me happy
Helia Badum LV
Or helia coralie lv
Probably the latter

Wish it was 20 pulls to wep or valk and not just valk lol
her shift just says "unleashes Confession that transcends Destiny" aka her old ult so ig she still has that time frozen domain
Oh okay then
you still wanna use her ult after the shift though so her shift still technically takes time

The fucking bleed is crazy
doubt that but who knows
They missed the opportunity for RoO bleed
There should be ice qua WoD Nyx 

Here’s the instakill bio mobs
Yeah the summary is so misleading lmao
Smh
Fully charged CA can always execute unconditionally but 1/2 CA need unstoppable
Smh
Let me show you something
Show
Fuck it might not work cause I was able to get double CA somehow on Aponia's mobs with only two ults
HoRb DPS
Got it
~~ wouldn't you wanna use Mei DPS here anyway ~~
Probably
But I like HoRb 
why did it take you so long to get charges
he horb leader


astralop is the worst feature to exist in part 2 shouldve kept elves
im not talkin gabout it from a gameplay perspective im talking about it how it jsut kills playability of characters
not true. divine keys are the ones taking valk spots
I think the dkey syncs giving more atk is the worse feature
They should have only given 10 attack and that's it
Yeah..
Now its a 40 atk difference next patch if u dont have syncs
Yeah
Instead of releasing a rank valk they will release an astral op
So you maybe right at that point
If griseo was release in part 2 she will be an astral op lol
In the past what will mhy do if they want to release 2 characters
They will make a rank and s rank in the same patch
at this rate we are soon getting more stella key than divine keys in the past 9 years
might as well treat it as more cuz of syns
Just wait til valks start getting their 2nd dkeys 
you're right...
Second HoT and HoR dkeys please
No
I forgot that HoV mentions are summon chants. Im hiding

seems veterans in the beginner channel answered that already.
Is she like the only character rn with a special background? Also is future characters going to be the same? I dont even see premium outfits with this type of background
Its the same thing as the 5 star outfits post fu hua 5 star outfit
Its more of a special effect around them than a bg
FoV skin also has one
oops my bad gng i didnt saw the message above me
Fov, bita, badum and hle skins all have them
Yeah but i feel like Mei’s especially over the top 😅
The back rounds have been getting bigger and bigger
What is gonna be a better pick?
4 star bunny elf
SS Songque OP
SS jds
jds only makes sense if u care about being top of leaderboard for phys alien guard and you have ss sera and rita/hle
not jds unless you use her a lot
the only one with default skin
others with gacha skins have
another example is snow fws skin
u do get some frags from bp as well, so u could still get ss jds and ss que aop by going for the aop first, spend rest tokens for valk and then fill gap in from bp
its just not enough to fully afford all
Hmm ill probably go for que first
Guys do we know if those two are still running in the supply shop or not ?
yeah no changes

This is really crazy ☠️☠️
If she was still on BP
I could have gotten Luna to SS1
expired
timbre? like the door ones?
Ik
"Timbre" in french are stamps in english.
Yes
Tf when are they even planning to change them 😭😭 ? Some players are going to have Luna at SS1
Good for them 
Bye lmfao
I'm near that. I could have gotten her at that rank if I didn't spent all my balls on Thelema
But thats 2 different Shops
Not really, at some point Luna was on BP at the same time as Thelema
Yes
Since HoFi and HoRb stamps' got in PWO shop, I suppose Luna could get the same treatment later
At some point
So I'm preparing up for that
@velvet dune There is a valk box with Luna or not for this patch ?
Not necesarrily F2P wise I mean ?
Manifesting 8.8 LV pwo stamps

Pretty sure there was 3 patches between DK and PWO shop
And since Hua's stamps got added in ER, we're unlikely to get a DK for her
I need to check patch details
I'm dumb, it was indeed the case
HoHe got the same treatment
Which means 8.8 PWO LV stamps might be possible

Let me see if it was the same for HoFi
If it's the case, it's very likely to happen again
yes but the value is giga scam
it's the usual ani valk box
I just need to farm pwo for said LV stamps, I used my saved up pwo on ss2 HoO and SS horb 
Naaah uh
HoFi DK 7.8
7.9 = Mei HoO Ranks up added
Whose in there ?
dunno
ik you can choose 1 valk and one of those is LV but that's it lmao
doubt the other ones are relevant
What i really wonder is who's next in the willpower shop chopping block
Really hoping trio by the cn anni 
Great and no vid of Marisa for the patch content...
Maybe checky wyv
He usually does that
Anyway you can also just wait until Thursday if not lmao
I hate how there is no other sources for luna fragments 
Ill probaly only get S2 luna 💔
Hopuim she gets to bp soon but I also kinda wanna hord my BP balls
💔💔 B-Chips were not in beta for Wyv
Should take 1-2 patches
8.7 adds Kira and HoRb to Reserve
8.8 trust 
Not really hopium... I'll tell you why :
1- HoRb and HoHe stamps got added the next patch after they got DK. So her stamps can be included in PWO in 8.8
2- The current BP rotation makes it so Luna is very likely to be added there since there's no SP valks between HoRb and Luna
Yay 
8.8 is most likely Sirin + LV, ye
Which rank do you have her now ?
Actually, it could be 8.8 Sirin and 8.9 LV + Brick
Holy shit, BRICK 🧱
S0
but next patch ill get the supply shop frags which ill be able to S2 her
Then 9.0 CE + FoV and we're done with P1 
I wonder if they will give fov out for free some day
Possible
I wonder if they'll slow down or just stop for a bit lmao
I could see her as the next free valk
They should since FoV is likely most candidate for next dkey
Will probs slow down exactly after they're done with P1
And usually whenever a valk gets dkey they’re given for free in someway
Yeah I think so too
Ig then it's just an exact number of patches from BP -> reserve
5 stamps from supply shop
8 stamps from PWO
4 stamps from BP Reserve stamp items for each valk
5 stamps from valk option
= 22 stamps
S0 ➡️ SS2 from now on to 8.8 if you can afford it with BP
And PWO orbs
Hofin was spending, HoH was free via event, HoRB was spending event, and LV was free via event
Unlikely, red flag is that Hua stamps got added in ER
What valk option gives 10 stamps huh
Doesn't the BP Reserve gives you an option between valk or 10 stamps ?
Should be 5
Yes its 5
Wait 5
It’s 5
🤦🤦
It gives the equivalent of getting a dupe
Corrected @limpid glacier
Yk the best thing abt part 2 was them increasing the frags you get from dupes 
Real, made advs better too for me 
Ill probably stop to get luna at SS
I forgot about witches corridor too I should farm some orbs soon
For when she gets frags in there
You need golden orbs from WT valks you already own at SSS
Yea I have SSS wt valks
Alot of em
SS is pretty
My fav stopping point
Yeah I like ranks I just won't go out of my way for reserve
Maybe pwo depends
Wanna finish some other wt valks first
Thats why id rather farm witches corridor
I'm doing preps rn if that happens lol
Damn I got like 0 rn but thats cuz I was framing for SS horb
I just hope they won't freaking increase the price
I kinda wish it was lowerd 
I'm not bothering with HoRb tbh, neither with HoFi.
I already got HoHe to SSS
Why would they lmao
They don't do stuff like that at all
Idk
Yeah they've been like that since forever
It stopped at SS but hohe is in wt next patch so im saved
Got SS1 hohe rn
SSS is also pretty
I bought HoHe's BP hence why
Holy I almost forgot about that
Well more witch orb sources for you now
Lol crazy my only 2 sources of PWO are going to be both Elysia
I like to SSS the wt valks that have frags in elysian realm so it is faster to farm them
My hofin is SSS, and my HoH is SSS, and my horb is SS, and my HoO is SS2
Also trying to SSS all A ranks for pure fun
And I also have a lot of crystals to farm from lmfao
Damn I got all of them maxed except for luna
BIG (small) LUNA
Small luna was a pain
And I still did that pre LTE
Rip people who maxed them out in the old er
I have 16 valks where I could 600 crystals, literally just enough to get Ely's skin


I maxed out ER and all the story advancements my account is dry from freebies
I am gonna get some free pulls tho cuz I hit 1500 days soon
Currently, I have like 172 pulls in crystals, 23 valk cards and 10 gear cards
I still haven't finished the current last chapter and 2 whole arcs of P1 story

Those poor crystals r begging you
Actually make it 3 with the Moon arc
Idk why
Those didn't count even though I literally rushed the chapters when I begun to play
You got those stress tests done?
The ones that give the single equipment card
Can say they did make me stresses
The challenge is kinda fun tho
Nope and they're horrible without the appropriate stuff
Wasnt it Horb hare foV ?
im returning to the game, short gist of upcoming mei and if shes worth for my acc plz
k thanks
You can run her with Kiana + Ely support
It's in a lot of cases the best team actually
Which ely?
Love Elf

at least with a rank valks we had actual gameplay and not just one-press appearance n goodbye? :v
laughs in kira, literally ult and exit, doesn't even need to come on field to use QTE 
haxxor bunny, 1 button then leaves
i was gonna comment about sci and sena being passive in wod but that's if we talk s ranks 
divine prayer gameplay, don't switch her in
DP giving 80% impair by doing absolutely nothing goes hard
you can switch her in to better control when the impair happens if it's timing is not lining up naturally to your attacking cycles
Oh hey that's back
Atleast a good weather
Wait Melee side stages 
PAWS boss likely cause of carnival
At least my idk can do this boss 
FWS probably your best
Last time it was here I tried aponia out of curiosity and she scored well enough to retain top 10 in RL iirc
Despite it being Extreme Weather which is GoI weather
Would LV be good for this boss?
Maybe?
So long as it retains 
Probably not better than PAWS since Luna is neutral
extreme weather or
Likely PAWS FDD FWS
Prob use luna sup
Why
She's still good for support ?
Same lol
luna for her lighting buffs ig
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Well ppl already use her
What are the general BiS teams for xmei and dkey luna?
(individually)
Haven't been keeping up with beta
Of course boss dependant but so far FDD FWS for XDC and PS FDD for Luna
Though PS cause of Tribunal
LV's HC for some reason sucks
HLE 
Oh yeah she has some bullshit with her too
Let me grab the passive
Lol
Here Lyolao
Oh thats nice ig
PS is used with XDC though it's only on Dxy cause she breaks PSY shields
Kek ok
People using Luna support with PAWS
Paws banner is gone but her weather here 

Bug impact 3
With the info we currently have based on CN myriad
For XDC it’s HLE/FWS (2 abysses top score so far)
For Luna PS/FWS (1 abyss so far… so half of her coverage
)
Sorry for the ping I keep forgetting
Mobius boss had hit count too didn’t it
I don’t quite remember
Luna has lots of self breach tho, 14% alone from her leader skill and I think her weapon skill had additional self breach too?
So Dracora aint as important
Ain't Luna's breach literally converted into Light DMG to not make her too OP ?
Her support breach, not her self breach though
Oh nice
And her new leader has self breach on 3 symbiosis
Noice
The issue with Luna is tho
First rot is too fast with PS/FWS to have intensity at the end of it
Unless u pull her weapon 3 times ofc 
It’s such a joke
With Dracora u only need +2 I think?
np I prefer pings xd
OMG I haven’t seen someone say that in ages
It’s so real tho
yeah too many crybabies upset that someone replied to them smh

ty for the answers anyway I just hope I'm not too cooked without fws
probably a bit cooked
You should do fine with HLE and FDD
Wait a friend of mine made a DMG test with XDC
Times to turn off her QTE 
I'm exaggerating its not that bad I've never needed fws support to retain nirv maybe some sd specific stuff
18% all atk
but then again I play EU which is also - 2 billion d
Cora instead of fws is like -3% dmg and slightly slower in ARC, if u manage to do her stuff before the boss spawns u should be fine I suppose
Ok nice nice
fdd cora I assume
Yeah

Feel free to test a rank Cora with Mei if u feel like it 
Fucking 8.3 team 

8.7 gonna be so expensive tho… i don’t even wanna know what’s in 8.8, I have a bad feeling about this
I’ll be so broke
We'll have to see 
When did Chenxue release again
8.4?
Could be
AOP in 8.8 or 8.9 then if they follow their usual pattern
I mean they love breaking their patterns though…
Me broke, pls be nice hoyo
I’m at
69.9k I think
New WS aop then?
Hopefully soon
I skipped songque and I don’t even remember when I last felt it
Hopefully one that can support HoRb
I’m not getting her, she’s dead as hell
Do I even bother to get S que op-
I won’t
I also don’t have lantern and Songque rank ups are wasted
Is there even anything else worth getting? Ig elf if u dont already have them max, ill still get que op tho
ATP I might just grab affix lock mats and then frags of a random S rank I like
JDS would be only dorm level and ER xtals to me
I was thinking AE or SW maybe, Yk
My senti is finally SSS

Ae is aw right, then just get sw
I could go for JDS then elf frags to rank up my Kiaelf
Or get Que op which only helps Rita
I think I’ll get SW yeah, my AE is close to SSS anyway
I just love Hua 

My SW is SS atm
Now that I’m finally finished with senti, I’m trying to get her and AE to SSS
someone asked me to do an SW er run, might as well come prepared
I remember her kinda painful
I still regret not getting her skin from that outfit box… I used the pink tickets from it to get the HoO summer skin
brokie I have 72k
I’ll get the senti skin
Senti ftw!!!
I’ll get up to 15k more from guides this patch 
I wish the senti skin had a proper shirt, its lowkey gross
wtf guide whaling
I’ll still use the summer skin, I just want thr senti skin for collection
Shark bonk is the best
U should write guides frfr
So I can copy them shamelessly and make monee on ur back
Worst pig
every pig combined indeed scary, just make it a boss that does all of the other atks in like shadow clones at once
hitlag nightmare
And they’re 3 seperate bosses, u need to kill all of them to clear the stage 
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Damn 87x
The last pig we don't have chenxue and cora iirc
Would be a nice event boss (or even story idk)
Would be a very nice nirvana boss
Make a new character that switches type every 30s 

Tc weather affects tc down too 
Exactly 
This idea is ideal cause it’s quantum and Img pigs too
Which are arguably more painful without the right type than psy
So people bringing an img/quantum balk would still suffer
Typeless valk when
Type changing valk + this boss 
New type in disguise 
waiting for new element
Please no

There's 6 types and 3 elements and 3 particular status
ok dual or tiple element valk
We don't need more
Honestly I wouldn’t mind, less powercreep kinda cause more niches to fill

Who's the last valk with a summon?
HRB dkey
Lmfao you create more powercreep by creating more niches to fill
Ah that sux

we can have wind u know
Smh
?
Valks would just last longer because they can keep their niches for longer
If there’s only one type the new valk will always be the best everywhere, the more types the more niches, the longer a valk can last
and with win comes wendy
I mean that's a possibility, except that the very Herrscher of it literally died

"Let's go retcon anything for a new element"
How about making the lore more confusing by adding a typing with non-sense by then adding it to the canon story
No that's literally false on many levels, and we saw it with the SD, IMG and the QUA types.
The only elements that makes a valk lasting more is literally the stats, the RES types and the vulnerability types of the bosses.
Literally how do you think HoRb got powercrept right after Luna got introduced in her own boss
Back in P1
And that's just PSY
And it also works for Sena being powercrept by Kiana, if they didn't create Lightning SD weather for Guaymas
You're exactly proving their point ? With more types it will take longer to release a valk with that exact same type so valks will last a bit longer just because there are more niches to fill, then ofc there are other things to consider but the same still applies if you have more niches valks are generally more likely to keep their own for longer, sure it would be annoying for general coverage but in terms of powercreep it does give some safety
wait is the update tmr or thursday?
I'm not completely for or opposed to a new type so I don't really care that much anyway
Thursday
Thursday, we might get Pre-DL tomorrow
Ohh shit, im so used to hsr update. thought it was tmr lol
4.2 update is Tuesday bcs ex abyss is released 
also its been a while since moriso didnt update his website, he quiting hi3?
It's literally more about the weather if we're speaking literally, not the exact type of the boss.
So yeah ofc there's more niches wow incredible. But in P2 there's already almost no general coverage bc of the AR type weathers.
Creating more niches is also creating more powercreep in a way bc you need more valks to cover anything
You're confusing coverage with powercreep lmao
And that's without counting the summon weather, bleed weather, stun weather...
I acknowledge that coverage is the annoying part but in terms of powercreep it just makes valks keep a niche longer, ofc this is just generally speaking but it still holds some truth
Well yeah ofc it isn't only about types but a new type would just create more niches because you could have a niche of new type + summon or new type + fire idk, anyway idt this will take us anywhere since the same point was basically said 5 times so I'll stop here
I feel like Ure just arguing for my point atp

too lazy
I haven't signed up for beta since 8.0
that's literally an example of valks keeping niches though
plus patches are so long valks are lasting like 2 years atp unless your name is lantern and even she still has her niches


☠️ ☠️ Why I feel like, this will literally finish into having the OG Trio as a team
we just need bronie now
A new Bronie or they DK a new Bronie (which has low chance of it to happen)
Idk bro
I literally can't see it happen ngl
I mean HoTr has still her team with HoFi and HoO
HoR already got one
DB and BN are so old
who? the npc russian girl?
The only left candidate as a S rank would be SW if that ever happens, and even like that I find it really unlikely
the only trio i know is kia mei elybad
POV : Bro didn't play P1 correctly
If only we had that collab in my country 😭😭
lets have a bang and give SW a dkey
Shes way too old atp
Also shes farmable..
This collab was so good

Didn't the same happen to HoR
We can always cope

Wat! 
I would prefer hotruth out of the available bronya suits for a dkey for more trio buffs

in bf she gets the horb and lv treatment
I doubt that they'd buff trio with a HoTr dkey if it even happens
Given that they already want them out of meta
Like the bull rerun with lightning weather was a pretty clear signal
hofi is the only stellar key valk with part 1 teams
the rest don't play in p1 anymore
at least part 1 was very meta during that time
Idts i think she became farmable like a patch or two later
VC dkey 
The VV cope
But holy crap, to say we're already at VV and HoTr for the free valk box
give CI and WC dkeys while we're at it 
what will be luna with dlcs best teammates
I would like a second hor dkey
mostly fdd in the second slot and third one is flexible
if you don't have fdd then you see what sym valks do you have to put there
Basically Cora and Ely/Helia if I'm not wrong
Depending on the boss I suppose
?
could be xdc but i didn't watch enough xdc support videos
PS
Oh wait Bleed support right ?
Hase some bleed buffs but her buffs are generally very nice
She's not a dedicated bleed support like LV in LoA it just happens so that she has some buffs which were intended for herself
Kira dkey soon
Trust
nah b rank dkeys first 
3 dkeys every patch until everyone has one ez
ezpz




Brooo wha
Great I don't have Sushang and she's not even coming back 😭😭
Shouldn't matter unless you're nirv tbh
I mean I'm not TwT but I hope there's no Sushang weather while she's not rerunning
No sushang brick acc (like me)
rip
Is duration of 8.8 known?
Through beta BP
Ah, wait, that was based on seasonal balls iirc
Yeah, nvm
8 weeks thrice in a row? HI3 is healing 
10th anni will probably be 11 or 12 weeks
That's gonna be fire
I would love 12 week patches would make my asc fund gathering much more easier
Thats F2P heaven 
i dont really spend on hi3 anymore but i still wouldnt like it
hoyo just does not give us enough content
Also because I need funds I’m probably gonna be really poor if I do Mei + weapon + LV dkey + sparkle ascension + weapon 
Ntm I’ve been spending crystals every patch since 8.4
12 week patches would kill the game so bad lmfao
You can't pull Ascension if the game fucking EoSed
Will probably need to cut sparkle ascension + weapon for the sake of my accounts future despite how much I love sparkle especially after 4.0
alternative to afford sparkle ascension and get Mei without jeopardizing my accounts future is skipping Mei and pulling on asc instead but idk 
why say it here
go to #🎮honkai-chat and let me pin it 
?
Oh shit 3 months ??
hell no
whatever statement i had for 8 week patches in a row has be retracted 
They updated it kek
Lv support comeback
I used lv support for funsies for that paralyze assaka....
Whats with them not rerunning the paralyze bosses
Wtf
will lunar vow be important?
i want her but i dont have the energy to do all that stuff
i have at least 2 of all the current astral ring types
Rice Cake MA 


Today we should ge the announcement of the last patch event
I hope it has next Valk hint 
Don't think secondary events ever do that





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