#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

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rain isle
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If I get que, I'll have all aops

ember locust
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LMAO Finally Songque AOP

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Sad that the best pick here is either Songque AOP or Songque stamps

exotic snow
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exotic snow
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sea, 500

ember locust
exotic snow
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a3

plain veldt
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SQue's weapon for my 2nd acc

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it's f2p acc

plain veldt
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plain veldt
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btw there's no option to choose Lantern's

gleaming imp
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At that point should've invested into her asc for 150 frags DurandalPeek

smoky lintel
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tbf they introduced a SD boss with flux weather so maybe she'll get some use out of that

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but overall idt that both really have notable relevancy anymore

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you could argue that lanterns DPS boss ran more recently since tank reran in 8.4 and phys alien guard was last seen in 8.2

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but in the end both are kinda eh and niche atp

smoky lintel
gleaming imp
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Surely ss1 lamp can hit like a truck compared to s0 DurandalPeek

ember locust
ember locust
smoky lintel
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not really, a lot of spending valks don't really have a lot of relevancy at that point anymore, just look at Horb

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Ofc she got a dkey but at the point of the spending event she was hanging on a threat thanks to dudu really

exotic snow
cinder cloak
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I might be able to get Lantern to SSS next patch

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She is SS2 right now, and I have 20 frags

gleaming imp
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Erm um actually hofin

ember locust
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Lantern was just cooked from the very start

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And Songque is indeed on a thread

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Between life and death

smoky lintel
solar surge
ember locust
smoky lintel
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thelema from the spending Event without having the BP was some nice 640 ER Crystals and not a lot more

shrewd socket
solar surge
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the CNY gear looks really good, I must admit

ember locust
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I cannot believe how simple they named Mei's battlesuit lol

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Basically remove the S of Sentinel and put an X

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Thinking about, Kiana might be the next char I will draw

flat inlet
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Is songque aop worth it still?

glass nacelle
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No but it's the best choice in spending Dorysia

frozen cobalt
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Best choice?

solar surge
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saving is also a choice in spending, and it' sgenerally a good idea
...except Songque AOP has a little lab coat, it's cute and it's adorable and I forgot some words whoops.
Seems most people use Sera.
I mostly use Chexue, though I wished I used Teri once recently. ("Whoops I don't have double Sushang QTE.")

frozen cobalt
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Most ppl use sera? SakuraWTF didnt expect that

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I mean chenxue can be use for 2 tag

solar surge
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It surprises me, too. (I don't have her.)
I can't give it as advice, it's only what I see.
DS (Entropy) is also popular.

muted mauve
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Listening back to 7.3 livestream.
Why the heck were Vita and Sparkle Drive Core if they don't play with the drive core concept ThelemaPout

frozen cobalt
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Thought she only good for wod team

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And wod kinda suffer before rita

slate elm
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it's like WoD and WS HoRb at a top level

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but i mean if you're lacking other astral ops then you can find some more intermediate uses possibly

solar surge
slate elm
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i don't actually know the details of Sera op though so you'll need to read her skills from there

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!faq sera

winter dirgeBOT
# slate elm !faq sera
Serapeum

Serapeum is a gacha exclusive AstralOP designed mainly for the Wheel of Destiny Specialisation. She does not enable any significant rotation alterations unlike some other AstralOPs.

Notable Buffs

  • In Stellar Outburst: + 18% Physical DMG Taken, +12% Elemental DMG Taken, +18% Crit DMG
  • Wheel of Destiny only: Crit Conversion (2.5% Crit DMG to 1% Crit Rate, max 75% Crit DMG converted), +8% Total DMG, +8% Crit DMG, +24% Total DMG Taken from Shadow Star Attack, 1 SP/s in Rondo in the Shadows
  • Permanently Active: For every teammate with Harmonized Shadow Star, +5.5% Elemental DMG Taken and 2.5% Physical DMG Taken
  • Astral Ring Cooldown Reduction: Reduced by 2.5s
  • Initial Intensity: 8 ARI for every teammate with Harmonized Shadow Star, up to 24
  • Intensity Regeneration: Refunds 28 Intensity for Wheel of Destiny and 22.5 Intensity for World Star
slate elm
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there's this but it doesn't detail ranks

vale granite
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Lemme check again

frozen cobalt
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Sparkle doesnt even use drive cores ingame

vale granite
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Sparkle is fair, ye, I'm thinking about Vita

solar surge
# muted mauve Listening back to 7.3 livestream. Why the heck were Vita and Sparkle Drive Core ...

they aren't always very clear on who-uses-what weapon type:

Drive Core: Sena (yoyos);
Vita (spinny disc thing; also kinda works for the glowing round chest piece in Gundam Wing and similar giant robots);
Sparkle (I dunno, all the world's a stage? Theater in the Round?)

Cross: Chainsaw/ Lightsaber/ deployed artillery-teri teri, but not a pair of puppets, those are chained blades for some reason ThelemaPog

Coralie: Rocket hammer. Cannot equip other literal hammers because they're technically greatswords.

Bronya: Heavy cannon, even though Promy has a very similar moveset to HoR except the whole motorcycle thing, but she uses the same weapon class as Fu Hua and Senti

Flamescion: Pistol heavy-swords

frozen cobalt
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Eepy teri doesnt even use cross

vale granite
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Yup, exactly

solar surge
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...yes, I explicitly mentioned that

glass nacelle
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lol ppl said mei can't brute force in hare weather

obsidian berry
solar surge
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Mei? I always just used Seewe

gleaming imp
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I just used vita, before that was brick

shrewd socket
glass nacelle
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The problem is that only Mei can break apo shield Dorysia

desert lily
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Isn't it Phys shield?

vale granite
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Lemme double check

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Ye, it is

desert lily
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Ah

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But she takes more Phys DMG

shrewd socket
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tbf she might still supply

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type counter still be gives her a go for those who don't have Hare RS and P1 HoRb

muted mauve
# vale granite How was it outlined there From what I remember Drive Cores are just mechanical e...

The fundamental concept for the Drive Cores is:

  • It's not a specific weapon, but a mechanism that is "driving" something (on Senadina's case, her yo-yo).
  • As it is driven, it's power is increased. Senadina was designed around this with her gameplay being around getting Thunderous Pulse and casting her weapon skill to progress it to the next stage, making it increasingly stronger the more the weapon is driven.
vale granite
desert lily
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I like the drive core concept of it being a yoyo

vale granite
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Vita kinda qualifies for the first one at least TeriDerp

shrewd socket
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with Vita ig you could argue summoning Star Traveler

vale granite
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Actually, wait

shrewd socket
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Sparkle technically has a mode change

muted mauve
vale granite
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So both? BronyaCopium

muted mauve
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Feels like a stretch. If so any character with charge atk fits the mold.

vale granite
shrewd socket
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was gonna say that it's like Catalyst in Genshin where it can be anything, but in HI3 that applies to any weapon

desert lily
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Wonder if they'll give da Bronya a stick now since Mei technically has one while Badum's is a stick Dorysia

gleaming imp
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A sniper I guess HoRPeek

solar surge
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da bronya needs a gundam
give her Arahato, mhy plz

glass nacelle
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Ew

solar surge
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what is ew?
we know Arahato (Welt) is a robot-ninja with a scarf
and da bronya is better Herrscher of Reason
therefore
bronya robot-ninja with a planet-sized robot-version of Project Bunny would be da bestest

plucky cradle
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ew

solar surge
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bronyas and gundams are not ew
...well, except Endless Waltz, I guess, technically...

fathom thistle
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oh my crystals are so cooked next patch

solar surge
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oh, it's a doozy
I almost feel badly for Rita, coming out right before new Mei, Cor outfit, p2 weapon reruns, and an Ely outfit!?

copper shale
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have they mentioned anything about er stamps

desert lily
glass nacelle
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fov in 2026

desert lily
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Hoyo decided LanternHeavyThoughts

copper shale
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fov brick

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either they stop dkey or its gonna be sss fov dkey xd

desert lily
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Wish they stopped at HoRb

muted mauve
copper shale
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wished they stopped after hofi

glass nacelle
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wish they never make dkey Dorysia

naive briar
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Carv don't make wishes pls

copper shale
muted mauve
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PRI-arm was also once a way to buff old characters and later a way to introduce the time-stop mechanic to them.
Then it became a on release thing SenadinaStare

copper shale
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yeah

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wheres my ta pri

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or my hofs dk

naive briar
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Rozaliya and Liliya still only got one suit and Delta is technically another existance

copper shale
naive briar
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I am fine with the concept of DK but not sync DK

desert lily
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They should have just cut the other 10 attack from the Stellar Key's Dorysia

naive briar
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what even is a Stellar Key

desert lily
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There no lore reason on why they exist veli_ded

glass nacelle
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jul 3 2020 : release date of Lament of the Fallen
dec 7 and april 13 are kiana and mei birthday Dorysia

naive briar
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There are more

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They are shipping meikia in the whole skillset

desert lily
glass nacelle
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gay skill

abstract night
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..-40 next patch

glass nacelle
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-50 next anni

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-100 after 2 years

naive briar
desert lily
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They should cut the other 10 attack from the syncs Dorysia

glass nacelle
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idk what 111 means in cn but I see them mentioning it a lot

desert lily
naive briar
glass nacelle
naive briar
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It's nothing more than a ship debate, you can ignore it.

desert lily
desert lily
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Actually I do wonder what they would do if they do make a new Seele, WS or LoA?

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Or maybe RoO BronyaThink

somber egret
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new ring

desert lily
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We have no ??? Tag yet though

naive briar
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We do

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Oh tag. Well not yet

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Mei has a ??? skill with someone. I was confused for a sec

desert lily
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Gonna guess the ??? Skill is for Da Bronya

prisma tartan
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not kiana?

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KianaRip_nopies damn

desert lily
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Huh?

naive briar
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Mei has one for Kiana and one for Elysia, and a question mark

prisma tartan
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owh

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mb TeriDorime

desert lily
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Kiana one is mainly for FWS

naive briar
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ningyo bad, pay me 10k xtal

desert lily
prisma tartan
somber egret
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Herrscher of Truth getting a dkey and unlocks it

naive briar
desert lily
prisma tartan
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to muck dkey ai-chan

naive briar
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If we don't lock AI chan up, we might -300 atk this year

prisma tartan
somber egret
cinder cloak
naive briar
# glass nacelle idk what 111 means in cn but I see them mentioning it a lot

I actually recorded the whole skill easter eggs but didn't had the time to encode
Since it's been asked a few times I've uploaded it first
https://fixupx.com/chibi0108/status/2012763010235080870

新春芽衣の小ネタと激しいキア芽衣と芽衣キアの内部闘争
︀︀The easter eggs in Mei's skills
︀︀and the war of Meikia vs Kiamei
︀︀#崩壊3rd #beta崩壊3rd v8.7
︀︀youtu.be/GpwaBgS2fVw

ちび🐦️ Chibipiyo (@chibi0108) を引用

Neko Dance 2026[v8.7 Beta]
︀︀エリシア、リタ、芽衣、コラリー
︀︀ネコダンスちびキャラ
︀︀youtube.com/shorts/2H-Q20Uxsgw
︀︀#崩壊3rd #beta崩壊3rd v8.7

**👁️ 2 **

▶ Play video
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naive briar
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wrong video -w-

naive briar
prisma tartan
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6%

plucky cradle
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chibi

glass nacelle
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denwhel sss mei

plucky cradle
naive briar
desert lily
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What the, is that for Lamp?

plucky cradle
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speaking of Kiamei

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1207 SenadinaStare

glass nacelle
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ew

plucky cradle
sharp bone
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oh my lord

desert lily
shrewd socket
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nah it's different

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SSS Lamp is barefoot

desert lily
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Well it's close

shrewd socket
desert lily
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It's not the story one

shrewd socket
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ngl the shoes make it look at bit weird to me

desert lily
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They should have made her barefoot

sharp bone
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I always thought it was story lantern, i guess her skin is just missing a whole leg

desert lily
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It's more closer to SSS MA and Abyss P2 Lamp boss

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Besides the shoes

shrewd socket
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it's Abyss/MA Lamp but with shoes

glass nacelle
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OL lamp when

main goblet
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lantern didnt forget her shoes this time

tawny bramble
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the first bridge does it mean they can be purchased with xtals?

naive briar
tawny bramble
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i see thanks SenadinaStare

main goblet
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hmm me want bridge but me poor

desert lily
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Same LanternHeavyThoughts

naive briar
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when was arc city bridge

main goblet
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dunno its release date but ik last rerun was in 8.1

naive briar
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Honkai Impact 3 Wiki

Arc City is a bridge theme in Honkai Impact 3rd. Version 8.1: Bridge Themes Return (v8.1) - purchasable at the cost of  B-Chip ×2,580. Version 5.5: Bridge Themes Return - purchasable at the cost...

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so the price was the same

novel elbow
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i buyed it discounted LanternHeavyThoughts

naive briar
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when and how much was discount

small wing
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I'm interested, is the CN fanbase as doomery as the glb fanbase is about the state of the game

limpid glacier
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Where/what is the shop and bp changes+additions can't find it anywhere already checked the pins

limpid glacier
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Thnx finally can get that ss horb

copper shale
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is in pwo btw

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but kira gear after so long

main goblet
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hmm horb ranks not bad if i get s2 from pwo and get all p1 dkeys

glass nacelle
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Unlock paid bp then buy stuff Dorysia

main goblet
glass nacelle
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Ele affix in 2026

somber egret
gleaming imp
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Do you still need that with horb having badum and vita?

clear vigil
limpid glacier
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Did any people test mei and luna support abilities yet

obsidian berry
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U mean skill showcase or efficiency?
Skill showcase is everywhere but efficiency need later update for dmg balance

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just wait til live patch duh VelionaShrug

limpid glacier
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Yea efficiency 😔 im really curious if Luna vow will become a bis for helia

rain isle
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Its been ages

naive briar
rain isle
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😔

ember locust
ember locust
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Hare has been added this patch

ember locust
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And she also has breach in her ranks

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Can be a BiS team for Helia DPS, using Luna and Coralie

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But we still need to wait for a while

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Since the kit isn't finalized

glass nacelle
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bro hasn't checked pins

abstract night
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Only ldmg for some stupid reasom

glass nacelle
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breachwho

abstract night
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22%<->34%

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I feel like it doesnt even matter if theres breach...
Like its so hyper specific

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Theres...helia...and helia

copper shale
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nice p1

glass nacelle
copper shale
glass nacelle
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i only evade 3 times and use so

copper shale
glad kernel
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I am on my way to ruin my acc again

ember locust
shrewd socket
solar surge
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oh, shoot, I forgot about that
my crystals...

ember locust
shrewd socket
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probably to avoid overlapping with FDD/Vita's breach state?

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probably the former since idk how would Vita's conversion interact there

rain isle
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Breach ooooo

shrewd socket
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nah that's actually a pretty fair adjustment

ember locust
# glass nacelle

So they dicthed the breach ☠️☠️, new potential for Helia DPS support gone

ember locust
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Could have remplaced Ely in a way

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For those who don't have her

shrewd socket
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just play PAWS FDD LV KianaShrug

ember locust
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But now that the Breach is basically gone

shrewd socket
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the breach is in FDD Art

main goblet
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is vita the only one that converts her breach to dmg% if there's another source of breach?

shrewd socket
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this is why i don't call FDD Vita double breach, Vita straight up stops giving breach in there EntropyTired

shrewd socket
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LV seems to convert it regardless

main goblet
abstract night
ember locust
ember locust
abstract night
ember locust
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Wow, Sherlock Hoshi

abstract night
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Ty

ember locust
ember locust
abstract night
somber egret
ember locust
glass nacelle
abstract night
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I wish they could have just given lv vitas passive

But then ig shenanigans in LoA...so ig just
Lv:
"If there are two sources of team breach, the other breach takes priority, and lvs breach is instead converted to ldmg"
RozaYeet

little bronze
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Ryomen????

naive briar
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Who

copper shale
glass nacelle
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Bug3

tawny bramble
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out of curiousity how often do they resell bridges?

main goblet
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well last time was 8.1 at least
last cny

tawny bramble
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once a year

ember locust
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40k to only get S

abstract night
abstract night
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Exactly

final locust
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so LV is BiS for PAWS and PS?

desert lily
vale granite
final locust
vale granite
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Changes between V2 and V3 can be drastic

final locust
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well of course but i just wanna know what it looks like right now

vale granite
slate elm
final locust
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thank god

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i can SS my LV

slate elm
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@grave lava https://i.imgur.com/56Nr2gJ.png HoHE will be farmable in War Treasury shop now. So your original account with SS elysia isn't as valued. Maybe consider restarting more. Granted she wants Ancient Legacy which can be a bit tough to get early on until you reach breakthrough (cap lv 81+). Roughly a month to get there.

I expect CNY patch to give a bunch of AL too though so getting hohe valk at s0 back prob isn't too bad.

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virtually no strats nowadays uses homu m pickup range anymore but also what else are you using legend proofs on. Might as well

velvet dune
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Can you Show the Rest of the time capsule?

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Omg

slate elm
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time stamp is 7:20 or so in the video

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i'm not the one playing this. I'm just watching through it

velvet dune
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Alright thank you

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Yeah i know its wyverein

slate elm
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proto weapons used to be speculated for use because of their instant weapon active activation (no animation) but never saw any real use afaik

velvet dune
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I still need them for collection LanternHeavyThoughts

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Regardless of Ma useage

slate elm
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sorry i'm just speaking generally

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wasn't directed at you

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oh ovt t (aladdin is now g4 too)

velvet dune
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Yeah i know 😭 was just commenting on them finally coming back

slate elm
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lol this capsule is kinda loaded lol

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ugh i might have to write the guide on this one

little bronze
slate elm
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just be mindful of her possible remaining meta relevance

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hi3 is filled with short term gains that are inefficient in the long term

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and why i stress waiting until you can determine an actual use/benefit before splurging resources

ripe urchin
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wont it take around half a year to SSS Hohe?KianaTunaNom

slate elm
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idr the values but it'll take a while

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so maybe getting her ranks from supply shop can actually help you get a particular rank in time before some abyss cycle

ripe urchin
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i would probably still try to get her to SSS tbh they did give her a dkey for a reason plus the patches are really long nowHimekoLMAO

desert lily
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DKeys relevance don't last long though

ripe urchin
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ah...trueFuHuaDerp

abstract night
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I need that sett

final locust
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ovt t

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after all these years

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it's finally mine

abstract night
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It was in a box like 2 patches ago

final locust
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i know but i dont do events

abstract night
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It was story

final locust
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what story

abstract night
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Some story

final locust
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pretty sure it was an event

desert lily
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It was the cabbage event I believe

abstract night
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It was an event in the story
The drago coralie uh god whatsitcalled
The whole card thing and u got a spaceship

final locust
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yeah i do not do any events

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hi3 events are abysmal i cannot bear doing them

abstract night
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There r some good ones

final locust
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i've only enjoyed 1 event 😭

desert lily
abstract night
final locust
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the pokemon esque event

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it was 7.6 i think

slate elm
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everyone has their own preferences

abstract night
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No i know

abstract night
slate elm
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it's fair to love or hate on events in the game. If you choose to skip an event just be mindful of what rewards you're not getting

final locust
abstract night
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Oh. The chess?

slate elm
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that sounds like autochess but i don't think you're talking about autochess lol

final locust
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not autochess

slate elm
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maybe you're talking about the one where it's 5v5? snazzy?

final locust
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the 7.6 event shicksal something

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the main event in 7.6

abstract night
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OH SNAZZY?

desert lily
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Sleepy Teri event?
Schicksal Work Guide?

final locust
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definitely not snazzy cards club i despise that shit event

final locust
abstract night
desert lily
abstract night
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Gameplay

slate elm
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you can prob search on your own from there breath lol

abstract night
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Mmm true

desert lily
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Yeah

abstract night
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Oh.

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Its the luna event...but turnbased

slate elm
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yeah the grid based combat?

abstract night
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Yeah

abstract night
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And i forgot the rest lmao

grave lava
slate elm
# grave lava i see, so shes basically too outdated to be useful

if you already have HoHE and her new gacha weapon (benediction) then you might still find some top meta uses from her

or if you're dead set on elysia stuff, and you don't have much else, you can still use her (edit: once you farm her from WT and get her new gacha weapon) for astral ring team building until you get better things.

But overall she is not worth spending important resources like crystals or crystallums on at this point.

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if you have any questions about the upcoming patch, maybe we can resolve them here now

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but otherwise we can move back to the help channel to talk about other things

grave lava
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is this a battlesuit or a skin?

slate elm
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that is a skin

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!faq pyramid

winter dirgeBOT
# slate elm !faq pyramid
Gacha Outfits

Be careful, Captain! AichanWhale

Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#👶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.

Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits

  • DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
    • You need 9600 Crystal or 7680 Crystal if there is a discount.
  • No competitive benefit.
slate elm
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people are saying that outfit might be pyramid so beware of the full cost

grave lava
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wdym by pyramid?

slate elm
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read the faq above

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you can see in the image there's alot of possible rewards (all the checked icons)

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pyramid works by starting at a low cost, but as you roll more and more the odds and cost for higher rarity stuff increases

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but for most intents and purposes you just expect to empty the entire thing

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you can technically get the costume early but it's very rare and not to be relied upon

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anyway read the faq for more elaborations or other details

gleaming imp
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I wish I could afford pyramids but even discounted ones take too much funds FuHuaRip_nopies

earnest forge
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But the skin so pretty 😭

prisma tartan
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fr

atomic coral
slate elm
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@rustic stump with the valks you mentioned, you'll be able to support luna's primary functions.

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but i don't think you should be concerned with maximizing her when you don't already have her. I expect people to be SS0-SS2 or so by the time she arrives. In addition to the free luna you mentioned, we had past spending events, battle pass, supply shop, and an upcoming paid bundle for her stamps at this point

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@rustic stump supply shop won't be changing this next patch btw. So don't stress doing rolls you don't need this patch we're currently on to just to get stardust or whatever you call it for LV

rustic stump
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I’m saving for Ely’s weap+ next patch anyways

slate elm
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and you're rolling for LV's weapon too right?

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so you'll get more supply shop currency from those

rustic stump
slate elm
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@reef sage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhIw_XNnwO0
New mei's gameplay. Take note of 1:07 when they start stellar outburst. Then later at 1:19 when they swap to teammates to restore sp. This only happens with matching teammates. Not any teammate will work for this.

Honkai Impact 3rd

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!faq goi

winter dirgeBOT
# slate elm !faq goi
Astral Ring Specialization - Grail of Infinitude

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see how the Grail of Infinitude Specialization works!

The "Grail of Infinitude" Astral Ring Specialization revolves around the team sharing SP in Stellar Outburst. Valkyries with this Specialization have the ability to consume huge amounts of SP to deal damage. The tag/attribute that matches with this ring type is ["Symbiosis"](#👶beginner-help message).

slate elm
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anyway excuse me for a minute i need to take care of something

reef sage
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Honestly I'll probably just use her in any content that's i can use her, even if i can't clear abyss, I'll still use her. No prob AichanLol

slate elm
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My concern is really about being able to play her fully. Without that sp you can't do all the stuff in outburst after.

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You would instead just end outburst early and in general do short rotations because your support effects don't last as long either.

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So regardless of meta, this is more for the sake of being able to appreciate playing her

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but you can always get these symbiosis supports later if you really don't want to restart

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otherwise if you're willing to restart to focus on the new mei then...

  • PS Sushang will rerun later this patch. Reroll for her. Ignore her weapon. She can support without her weapon and she has symbiosis.

  • Complete events to get the free Lunar vow before the patch ends.

  • Farm crystals to prepare for mei patch. You want ~57k to be safe.

  • 17k crystals are for lunar vow's new weapon that patch which will give her astral ring. She has symbiosis too. That's both supports done. Prioritize this banner since it ends earlier than mei

  • Mei will cost up to 40k crystals roughly for valk and weapon together. if you don't care about weapon then this cost gets reduced by 17k. Weapon is usually important for 30-40% personal damage and maybe some additional effects that might be important. Idk for mei

General Rerolling Pin in Beginner Help: #👶beginner-help message
It can valid to not start over. Don't force yourself if you don't want to: #👶beginner-help message
If you read through this but do not understand terms like astral ring or symbiosis, please read this #👶beginner-help message

EDIT: Alternatively consider rerolling next patch for FWS from starter/carnival too but getting a second symbiosis might be awkward for the short term.

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but anyway sorry if i'm stressing this too much. The decision is up to you and we can discuss what to do if you don't want to restart.

shrewd socket
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-# lacking weapon pretty much equals to lacking the valk

reef sage
slate elm
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alright in that case, your current account is prob fine. You already have enough to get Mei valk. But may need to play and save up more to get her weapon. We're only on week 3 or so of this 9 week patch so you have alot of time and crystals to still get. Check out the pins in #👶beginner-help for the crystal guide.

reef sage
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I'm at chapter 26-28 so I should be able to farm extra crystals. I've been slowed lately because i do play genshin & mainly, zzz AichanStare

slate elm
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story crystals you can get at any time. Be mindful of more limited time ones

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  • weekly ER is probably most important for you
  • some amount of abyss even if you're low rank is prob still good too
  • dailies you can quickly lite and menu through
  • weekly memorial arena might be too much work for only 100 crystals but you also get 1 source prism
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!faq crystals

winter dirgeBOT
slate elm
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ah whatever i'll just use the command lol

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but again this is in the pins in the help channel

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events might be too much work for only 2-3 rolls if you're busy with other games, so maybe ignore those unless you have fun with them

reef sage
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Oh yea, I've been doing those too. The auto chess event also, I've gotten all of the crystal rewards

shrewd socket
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note that from Lv30 and on you can play the lastest story arc right away

slate elm
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i think we can wrap up here. Just as a quick review, the topics we covered were

  • HoT
  • new changes to the gacha (equipment banner) and also new team building with astral ring
  • new mei
  • restart considerations
main goblet
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does someone know the price of the 3 outfits in here based on past time capsules? is it the same as the sirin one?

somber egret
mossy escarp
frozen cobalt
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sparkle shill?

rain isle
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Sporkler

frozen cobalt
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imagine no sparkle banner

gleaming imp
rain isle
glass nacelle
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Ew

glass nacelle
nova notch
slate elm
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Or? Origin?

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check pins for what that is.

somber egret
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HoOr DKey

naive briar
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next patch -30k xtal

copper shale
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comment mentioned it as well

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ice huodou vita stronk for no reason

glass nacelle
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I think it's just how weather works

glass nacelle
copper shale
glass nacelle
copper shale
glass nacelle
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Bloodthirsty is tdm bonus
Other weathers are independent effect

frozen cobalt
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hi3 doesnt have excel gaming

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or we just doesnt care the dmg we dealt

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big number = good

obsidian berry
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1.Affix: do A B testing
Boss die faster = gud
Boss die slower = bad
2.Rotation: mald every boss at least 50 times to know which rot is best

prisma tartan
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KianaBeg pls i need new elf hoyo

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make ningyo an elf

naive briar
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Sakura ELF first

somber egret
obsidian berry
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Instruction unclear
Making ajita, youyun, moonshell, leylah, nahralab ELF

naive briar
still vine
lament oyster
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Anyone got the images for new Mei's stigmatas? It doesn't seem like I can find them from the pinned posts.

main goblet
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@lament oyster

lament oyster
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Thank you VodkaHug

ivory trout
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Kinda skipping HI3 for a bit
So I heard Luna GOI Dkey and Mei Mech Phys GOI?

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What weapon type Mei uses? Still same as P1 Mei?

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Also does HoRb Dkey is BiS support for Mei?

desert lily
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Yes Mei still uses blade

ivory trout
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Idk, I don't really remember if her whole Physical buff of Seele is still there with Dkey

desert lily
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And HoRb DKey isn't BiS for Mei sadly veli_ded

ivory trout
desert lily
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Still has pistols but visually a stick

ivory trout
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Yep
Seems p1 character weapon changing stopped with Dudu

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And now Teri character type has two weapon types for P2 with Luna getting Dkey lol

desert lily
ivory trout
desert lily
ivory trout
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So HoH also good option for her?

desert lily
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Then a ??? Skill like PAWS had when she released

ivory trout
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And perhaps... cope option like HoFi

ivory trout
desert lily
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Likely

ivory trout
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HoH being good option? Or upcoming Bronya

desert lily
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The ??? Skill likely for Bronya

ivory trout
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Oh yeah

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How about HoH
I mean since she's also Ely and HoH is one of good GoI support

desert lily
desert lily
ivory trout
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Okay since I skipped HLE due being busy irl and horses I might looking for Ely's DK rerun

Already have Badum btw

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I scrolled bit that HoH gonna be in War Treasury anyway

desert lily
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We'll have to see

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Oh wait HLE is reruning next patch

ivory trout
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Well I don't think if I comeback next week my crystal and grind will be enough to pull both valk and weap, with so little time CoralieSob

desert lily
ivory trout
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But gonna see v3 first

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But how about Luna for Mei

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Or vice versa

desert lily
#

VelionaShrug
I don't know fully on that

ivory trout
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Welp time to open YT

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Oh yeah I still didn't know Luna and Mei support tags, besides Synthesis

shrewd socket
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XDC has HS and DR

ivory trout
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I heard Luna have Heavenly Shift

shrewd socket
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LV has Symbios and HS

ivory trout
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XDC is Mei?

desert lily
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Luna is pretty much PAWS but PSY

shrewd socket
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yes

ivory trout
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Another Domain Resonance in 2026

desert lily
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WS Bronya when

ivory trout
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Oh wait

shrewd socket
ivory trout
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Yep

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So like Mei replace Kiana (Badum/HoFi) in HoRb's team

desert lily
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Hopefully Mei can replace FWS or HLE on my HoRb's team LanternHeavyThoughts

ivory trout
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?

shrewd socket
ivory trout
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Or who

I forgot what HoRb BiS supp

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Besides Vita

desert lily
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FWS

shrewd socket
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rn is Vita FWS

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HoFi instead of FWS if don't need all the dmg

ivory trout
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Yeah so she probably replace her gf in HoRb team lmao

shrewd socket
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we don't know yet

#

HLE didn't replace her

desert lily
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It's still V2

ivory trout
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Yeah

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Just assume since Mei also physical so perhaps have more physical related buff

desert lily
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Also I doubt she'd replace FWS on SK since there's an SD mob

ivory trout
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Yeah true

#

Type counter DXY

shrewd socket
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that would be PS

ivory trout
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or Physical/World Star DXY soon

desert lily
#

Isn't DXY Bio?

shrewd socket
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no?

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it's PSY

ivory trout
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Isn't she changing type once she leave her horse

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So I think HoRB + Mei I guess LanternHeavyThoughts

mild bloom
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Yes, Psy when on horse bio when off horse

shrewd socket
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FWS could still be faster

desert lily
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That 150% crit DMG buff for WS definitely getting a nerf that Mei has LanternHeavyThoughts

mild bloom
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It's also weak to bleed and ignite
Takes more dmg when inflicted with any of those

desert lily
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I remember in MA it has a Phys shield

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Don't know about Abyss

shrewd socket
desert lily
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And wastes time?

mild bloom
shrewd socket
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i mean my only ref is this

desert lily
desert lily
shrewd socket
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don't even know if the score is good for the dist

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NA is like +10D

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  • Reso SK couldn't be a good example considering how tight the run is
desert lily
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Dominance SK you mean LanternHeavyThoughts

copper shale
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boss is too paper to know

desert lily
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Wouldn't be able to test properly unless the rerun SK in 8.7

copper shale
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guy skipped like 2 of kiana's reso

desert lily
copper shale
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there's other unit who prob does better simply cuz they faster

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given how much he is overkilling

desert lily
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Though don't think Mei changes much for HoRb's teams

copper shale
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that vid is basically the only one i can find for dominance sk tho, have to see if others upload
but its just waiting for v3 in terms of ws related

obsidian berry
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Horb is in the garage now

shrewd socket
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always have been

obsidian berry
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3 abyss and +10atk, enough for 16.8k crystal investment

copper shale
glass nacelle
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3 bio mobs ew

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Sss mei shill

copper shale
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s0 looks fine

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984 p1

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where sss

copper shale
desert lily
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Insta kill them Dorysia

little bronze
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Ok, so not many major changes for next patch

glass nacelle
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sea nirvana d is 561

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ios is 564

desert lily
tender jolt
muted mauve
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I am not elated with this

main goblet
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oh an actual boss for me to sleep on
last time i did fdd dps and barely retained
dunno how it will be for cn ago

muted mauve
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Thankfully. Ago bosses are more fragile than paper

steep axle
rain isle
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Would it be kewl to get more bosses that change typing like that?

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It is a pretty nice concept ngl.

main goblet
rain isle
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Eh

willow perch
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pain to build a Seele around

velvet dune
mossy escarp
unique osprey
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Yo just a quick sanity check and also because I'm arguing with someone, CN beta is open for the public to officially make video content of, right?

wooden cliff
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798 in agony wtf

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that's not paper......

pearl gale
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With that being said, in case anyone is interested to know what Mei does

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Guide coming on HoYoLAB on GLB beta: Saiara_
List of all my guides: https://rentry.org/Saiara_guides

Xentinel × Dawnbearing Crescent - Raiden Mei, new S rank battlesuit releasing in 8.7.
*please note this is based on CN beta v2, content can change before official release.

Time stamps:

00:00 - Introduction
00:05 - The Basics
00:41 - Basic ATK...

▶ Play video
pearl gale
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I forgot I could do that huh

desert lily
abstract night
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(Hope ur doing good)

pearl gale
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Oh wow hi breath HuTaoLurk

abstract night
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Hello hisui

pearl gale
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My bad

desert lily
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Not your fault
I just watch a lot of Honkai LanternHeavyThoughts

pearl gale
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I still wanna do a Luna one, but now sure if I’m not too lazy for that LanternHeavyThoughts

desert lily
pearl gale
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Divine keys are always such horrible walls of text nyaruhosad

desert lily
#

True

untold marsh
# unique osprey Yo just a quick sanity check and also because I'm arguing with someone, CN beta ...

to add to what Hisui said, version 1 V1 is closed beta protected by NDA and if you see anyone sharing V1 content here please use the contact mods here to report it as it an NDA violation. Version 2 (V2) is an open beta and sharing of its contents is allowed. If you're ever unsure and dont super closely follow what version the beta is on then basically if its not pinned in here then its not allowed to talk about until the flood of V2 information is publically available

muted mauve
#

Oh I think I saw this argument when I was scrolling BronyaThink

ivory trout
untold marsh
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typically yeah, though I always err on the side of caution but you're right that thats typical

naive briar
#

If you use an extremely long monitor you can sort of get no UI but it is rare

slate elm
naive briar
still vine
#

activate windows SakuraWTF

muted mauve
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paradise SakuraWTF

naive briar
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carv activate windows

somber egret
muted mauve
naive briar
#

Looks like Mei won the legal custody

muted mauve
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Rita and Helia didn't get one SenadinaStare

naive briar
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wth are you a hoyolab bot

twin dune
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Am i the only 1 who believes luna getting a dkey is bullshit?

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SenadinaStare like i love luna and i m glad i ll be able to reuse her

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But like... Why
For me my logic of how the other 3 got 1 makes sense
Hear me out but they were all "unusual" herreschers

twin dune
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Seele is a herrescher outside the img tree
Kiana is finality
Elysia represents the origin. She was the first one (she had seen everything)

vale granite
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Ah, there we go

twin dune
vale granite
#

Well, we ran out of Herrschers

twin dune
#

LiliSip but why luna

vale granite
#

And they had to give the dkey to someone

twin dune
twin dune
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Does that mean we could get FoV too one day?

vale granite
twin dune
vale granite
vale granite
twin dune
vale granite
#

They'll probably just make HP ring and slap her there

twin dune
#

Fair

prisma tartan
#

fov dkey

twin dune
#

New ring: star of abundance

twin dune
prisma tartan
rancid plank
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Fenghuang of Vicissitude

prisma tartan
#

hua

twin dune
#

Ah he said fov sorry me blind

prisma tartan
twin dune
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What happened with the ningyo pfp btw

#

Imagine senti gets another dkey just cause

prisma tartan
#

taiga is cuter

rancid plank
#

No worries who among us has never been blind FuHuaPat

desert lily
twin dune
#

Hua is the only character with 2

#

Altough her dkey is not our usual dkey

rancid plank
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Technically teriteri is getting a second one

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At least as the game counts it

twin dune
#

Teri had 1? Ah true that

#

Judah ftw

desert lily
#

Judah

#

And Pledge of SakuraDorysia

twin dune
twin dune
rancid plank
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Yeah I wouldn’t count pledge seperate that’s a bit much for me

twin dune
#

Anyway imma try to get both mei and luna dkey

rancid plank
#

Good luck

desert lily
#

Don't even know if I want the DKey

twin dune
#

And i like mei so why not get her

desert lily
#

I have paws and Rita
But that shouldn't matter since all three or well all 4 have different shill

vale granite
#

We'll see ofc

desert lily
#

If PAWS gets a boss

prisma tartan
#

imo they should give dkey for p2 char CoralieLooking

main goblet
prisma tartan
#

like for the A and old S

desert lily
grand viper
main goblet
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just have to change the dkey formula

desert lily
#

Give A ranks for other AR's besides RoO and WS

main goblet
#

pls

desert lily
#

Newbies wishful thinking

main goblet
#

although another roo won't be bad
but i don't think they're make one better than vbm

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i don't blame em

desert lily
#

If they make a new RoO, it's gonna be S rank

main goblet
desert lily
#

Wouldn't mind a WS one
Even though technically VBm is fine there

main goblet
#

we need one with hs and sym
especially sym

prisma tartan
#

u know they can make that new char as an A BS

#

idk her name

#

youyun is it?

desert lily
vale granite
#

Just slap all the tags, why not

desert lily
vale granite
#

Make sure there is a ??? tag too

main goblet
desert lily
#

Fair

desert lily
main goblet
#

ik jds and hoh are
thel isn't bad thel sena vbm used to be a thing
idk about lamp and Rita

vale granite
main goblet
#

good to know

desert lily
#

Doing kinda decent with 2/3 WoD in Abyss

vale granite
#

Her default Rondo duration is 7 secs, not 5

desert lily
rancid plank
desert lily
main goblet
desert lily
#

Wrong reply kek

main goblet
#

oh oops

vale granite
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We will be having Rita cycles

main goblet
#

srry

vale granite
#

And some of them want Thele

main goblet
#

hmm

desert lily
#

Bull

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Idk about HoDom

vale granite
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Thele won't do much there

desert lily
#

Unless FDD cope is fine for now

rancid plank
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thelema wep will also save ur ma scores, think of all the times u drop out of top 2% ThelemaPout

main goblet
#

lol

vale granite
vale granite
#

Yeah, I'd get a proper comp then

#

Do you have Sena tho

desert lily
#

No

vale granite
#

Vita?

main goblet
#

honestly i think wpless thel is still ok for ur rita but getting the weapon will help you out

desert lily
main goblet
#

jds is after thel and her value is lower

vale granite
#

Rita is so cooked in your case, huh xdd

desert lily
#

It's only HLE and Thelema

#

Zero breach for WoD and WS LanternHeavyThoughts

rancid plank
#

Rita HLE thelema isnt that bad ngl

desert lily
#

FHD and AF are permanent so I can easily get them anytime tbf so Thelema weapon it is

main goblet
desert lily
#

Which is also the decision of Songqueop Vs JDS next patch

#

Or just for JDS then nab Kiaelf frags

#

Probably then can just use Kiaelf for Rita teams

main goblet
#

or frags if not unlocked

desert lily
#

2 star but I have some reserve frags from 8.5

main goblet
#

oh how many reserve

desert lily
#

30 boxes
X2
60 frags

main goblet
#

hmm still a long way from 4*

desert lily
#

3* not better than SS Chenxue?

main goblet
#

no

craggy sentinel
#

chen is actually good at ss

main goblet
#

ur hle, fdd, paws, future mei if you get her, future lb dkey if you get her, horb (i think) are good with your ss chen

desert lily
#

Rita only gets the buff cause of HLE

main goblet
#

not sure about rita, fws, ps and mps

desert lily
#

FWS and PS teams are gonna be full Symbiosis/OS so

main goblet
#

but tbh jds wont do much for you either

desert lily
#

Neither help me much

main goblet
#

it is extra team slot for ma, 620 xtals from er, having her outfit equipped if that's to ur fancy but its kinda iffy idk

desert lily
main goblet
#

also we don't know if hoyo decides to put old aops in spending moving forward or is it just sq aop or is it a one off thing

desert lily
#

We'll have to see next CN anniversary

main goblet
#

yeah will be a while though

#

but i don't think hoyo cares about sq aop so i won't be surprised if she ends up in the next spending

#

i would hold of spending priority for now until you know how much you spend

desert lily
#

Alright

glass nacelle
#

Pretty terrible kek

main goblet
#

what variant of SK weather is this since im seeing bio mobs

desert lily
#

Starless maybe?
Or Shield weather?

copper shale
#

shield

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can't rmb when it ran

#

feels like p1

velvet dune
#

Wait but whats the weather called for this Boss ?

copper shale
#

坚盾

velvet dune
#

Is it for grail ?

copper shale
#

something shield

#

no

velvet dune
#

Oh maybe to shill Mei Dudu ?

#

Bc i dont remember sk hua having a designated shield weather so its prob new?

copper shale
#

maybe

#

no its p1

#

prommy

#

they haven't reran it for a while

#

they could when dudu came out

velvet dune
#

Nvm youre right this is from when Hare released

desert lily
#

Fortified?

copper shale
#

wat

desert lily
velvet dune
#

Does mei or Luna have a locked ar Skill or nah?

desert lily
#

Doesn't seem like it

rancid plank
#

no, mei has a locked skill but its not ar

#

people are assuming its for a new bronya or smth

desert lily
velvet dune
#

I doubt they want to Release bronya so soon, they prob will keep her for next cny

#

Imagine a new Natasha LanternLollipop

rancid plank
#

lets be real

obsidian berry
#

Definitely new vodka girls

desert lily
#

New Seele LanternHeavyThoughts

upbeat gorge
#

new mobius or riot

proven forge
#

Broo im gonna be so broke next patch

#

😭

#

Glad that i skipped rita tbh

gleaming imp
#

Rita in RL with ranked trio is a easy skip

#

Though I scored higher with vita than hoo dps vita shill, and on ice raven my thelema still got +100 with vita senawho

#

I hope 8.8 is a rest/saving up crystals patch with a easy skip valk

desert lily
#

Imagine it's QUA

pearl gale
#

If she’s the leader

#

Maybe in world star too, I’m not sure?

desert lily
#

She doesn't

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Saw nothing for shield break for WS
Only when she's leader

#

Can give HoRb it if she's supporting Mei Dorysia

glass nacelle
#

What's the point of 150% crit dmg

#

Still no damage

desert lily
#

Ask the devs LanternHeavyThoughts

#

Probably gonna get nerfed to oblivion anyways still

somber egret
#

Would be funny that they just forgot to add decimal point and it's actually 15%

glass nacelle
desert lily
umbral spoke
#

why

smoky lintel
#

Bio mob SK soon™

fervent hinge
#

Wtf is this qilin shiy

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This is not genshin

muted mauve
twin dune
untold marsh
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I mean the dkey trend is pretty obvious when you think about it. They've been giving them to the most well received non ar valks (pulling wise) so far

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Purely speculation but I wouldn't be surprised if senti or fov gets one next

prisma tartan
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damn senti

shrewd socket
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why would senti get a second one?

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FoV makes more sense

untold marsh
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To make them compatible with AR mechanics

rancid plank
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Surely not senti KianaNotLikeThis

untold marsh
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I mean personally I just want another Martian but I'm not holding my breath xD

prisma tartan
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well,just put senti on the computer

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or like the birb girl

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sus

velvet dune
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Id rather we get to know what senti and Hua have been up to and them getting their own new battlesuit than a shitty dk

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But also bc i skipped foV , didnt enjoy her gameplay at all

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So i dont have her battlesuit and the DK would be wasted

umbral spoke
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can we go back to street fighter combos on hua?

velvet dune
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Also the DK are such Hit or Miss

smoky lintel
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Because peeps got like SS on release

smoky lintel
rancid plank
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And sure they might be SS3

muted mauve
rancid plank
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But SS isn’t nothing

smoky lintel
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The point is that that will matter in nirv

velvet dune
smoky lintel
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Her ranks alone don't seem that big but the atk is deadge

velvet dune
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Yeah

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I Wonder does Luna use lightning dmg affix too ?

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Refarming half a year Worth of lightning affix SenadinaStare

smoky lintel
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Surely wyverein will test that

velvet dune
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She will use ATK and she will be Happy with it

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Bc im not wasting affix locks likewthat on a dk unit who gets like 3 bosses

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But yeah S0 Hua with DK is just a waste of pulls

smoky lintel
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I mean I haven't looked at her shift and shit but I doubt that the damage from that will be significant enough to change the balance between atk and light DMG

smoky lintel
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I mean she has ER stamps so

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Idk how many though

velvet dune
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I would actually have to reconsider bc If they drop an aop right after

smoky lintel
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Just don give her a dkey and we good

velvet dune
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Thats a skip

velvet dune
smoky lintel
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Instead lets give vita one and give her TFD on her WA and CA do that she uses like 0 on field time

velvet dune
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I just Wonder why didnt they give Mei a locked ar tag?

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Why is it only a locked Skill

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OFC it will Work like that but that just makes her so limited

smoky lintel
smoky lintel
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ME is just a goated WoD support and a nice RS upgrade

velvet dune
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Im kinda sick of Everybody having world Star

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Shitty ass ring

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Where are my roo Supports

smoky lintel
velvet dune
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Vita fucking sucks Like lets replace finality

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Her Stellar drain Takes too long to be consumed

smoky lintel
velvet dune
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Yeah WtfDidYouJustSay

smoky lintel
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Like why is vbm even considered here smh

velvet dune
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Bc she has fast Combo

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Thats only upside

smoky lintel
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Yeah ik and some higher SO DMG afaik but still

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That a dkey and a fully farmable a rank come close is

velvet dune
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I think the dmg is equal

smoky lintel
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It's like slightly higher afaik

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Like really close

velvet dune
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Yeah finality just needs to go

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No more world Star Units shitty ring got enough now

smoky lintel
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Inb4 next qua valk is WS

velvet dune
untold marsh
smoky lintel
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It was more to meme about her being slow

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But I can see them making dkeys for valks so that they just work with more rings/go back to the old dkeys so that it's just an upgrade

untold marsh
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She is slow KianaBeg

naive briar
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VitaPopcorn slack

somber egret
prisma tartan
somber egret
naive briar
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Oh you found the emote

willow perch
muted mauve
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Her head ornament is missing SeelePout

abstract night
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When they trigger the stuff

smoky lintel
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That's like through all of SO SongqueStare_stolen

unique swallow
pearl gale
unique swallow
ember locust
regal shell
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Hello everynyan!
Has anyone translated 8.7 skills and equipment into EN? SenadinaStare

pearl gale
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Don’t worry, none of us are 091_Run

rustic stump
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Off topic, but what other pt 1 unit other than FoV could possibly get a dk?

gleaming imp
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I guess hotruth and hoo to bait more swiping from the trio enjoyers?

pearl gale
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HTR/HO would technically be possible but looking at how they went to Luna it seems they skipped those Herrschers