#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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what about 8.6 patch
54+10 lol
how do we know this
8.4 bp includes 8.4, 8.5, 8.6
8.3 bp includes 8.4, 8.5 atm
Just 132 - 69 = 63
Easy 18k crystals 
I just assume 2k a week to lowball my expectations 
More so for calcs to assume my crystals gained
For 8.5 BP duration, how long?
Besties #girlpals 
hello people
Seeing this makes me want to get songque so my thelema can have her bestie but funds where 
i dont have songque
F2P life 
funny thing the patch she was released i didnt even log in once
i logged in at lantern then the day after her patch ended
No feet focus and Thelemarketing presence, W
Can anyone check 8.5 BP shop how long last it will be to make sure about 8.7 patch duration
8
8? 
Well...
Fully geared both Ely and HoRb before I hit Songque outfit 

Yes 8.5 is 10 weeks long
no i dont mean that, im talking about 8.7 being 8 weeks long
Ah
The trick is to not want the character. Then you fully gear them in 40. 
i might only afford to get 6-7 stigs with asterites
if i didnt syn 3 my vbm wp i could afford way more 
Why are you so tall


💳
Skem gaem


Lamp 🤝 Songque
Getting a skin the patch after ascension supply
Kind of wish they put the ascension supply same patch as skin to get both at once 
Dorm Pulls count now 
you mean past the first 20? 
Nah I just forgot they count for Outfit xtal count but not spending xtal count 

Isn't she floating ?
why would this Elysia be floating
I don't know she was indeed floating her event no ?
Thing is there's no reason so far for her to be that tall ?
At least to give that impression
The event was in a game like how we can fly in Genshin but not irl
~~Elysia's personality is literally pink and short ~~
i have a doubt if i buy all these stamps in bp shop it resets next bp or is one time deal forever?
one time deal

Yes that's why it's weird in terms of perspective...
Why not Thelema too in support ?
Thele's for WoD valks iirc, no?
at least you got 620 crystal there
Yes but Elysia has both WoD and WoS tags
(GoI AR though)
Ely Idol Brain time
I meant WoD type specifically
Or is Thele based on the HSS tag? Lemme check
Otherwise if said supports doesn't work, would that mean she would not need both ?
Might be WoD though
Nope, based on WoD type
Yes that was what I was searching for, Elysia has HSS and WS
Thelema is _ and WoD
Though most of the buffs are generic
In er atleast
Guide is shit as usual
_ ?
Blank
Weird to have a blank space
compare hoh dps with thel dps?
context is er lmao
Huh
not sure if they got HoH's boss yet in cn
Sigh
only count top scope
vita still going strong 
probably will fall off next patch when fdd dps get used less
Poor HoFi
doesnt horb dps use vita
or is it mostly ely kiana
no idea
only time i would approve usage of breach 

grinding time 
@willow pumice
thankius
Lantern goes hard
How to make a beginner team:
Pull sena/songque and wep, go afk for wtv days for the returnee banner
Grind and pull lantern and weapon, use coralie last spot
Ezpz
Totally meta
My main suspect for 8.6 valk is ||Rita||
[Spoilers] ||They added new Hyperion 11 OW dialogues.
- Mei: About Elysia
- Bronya: About Rita
And back in 8.1 we had Mei: About Sushang and then Sushang released on 8.2.||
She's behind me isn't she
Please no

||What could mei possibly say about elysia||
New T0 team for SSS Mobius
Oh she was a great lady and she had a bow or smth
I was expecting playable mobius team i just stared at this for like a second wondering where she was
why you pull valks without wep
||Just when to talk to Mei in there, she's currently mentioning Hua|| 
||Though a new Rita battlesuit wouldn't be bad to me anyways||
||omg a possible new p1 suit we won
where am I gonna get the funds
||

For Ely and HoRB they just weren't primed yet
I got them both full gear in 26k xtals 
Rip pri arm mats 
they have that opinion until it hits them like a truck
What are they're going to cook with Ch10
Lanternover
This is why I wait til ascension since if I hard pity I get refund 
getting a partial refund for a scam 😔
💀💀💀 Lantern cannot really have any shill, she's so on the fraud list
The Trio of the Loose, The Trio of the Bullied ones : Lantern, Teri, Sporkle
18 pulls is 18 pulls
Bro wth are you doing with that much stardust
My ragebait queen sparkle has the most use between these 3, she at least has WS and LoA going for her compared to Lamp and teriteri 
the cringe "sus animation" broke game
when the animation is sus
Exactly
💀💀 I swear from the start until the end, Lantern was bullied by Elysia
It wasn't even fair
Also trio and vita
She already lost Yae Kasumi type to her, now she looses the boss she was designed for
Like bruh
It was over for lamp when hofin got dkey
Nah Lantern still had some hope, Elysia just literally ended her life
Grave was dug further come 8.1 
Khia asylum resident 
and after ely dkey was released, the old lantern weathers were never run
elybad moment

Elygood moment 💀💀
Lampbad moment
She literally got no chance
One of the most shortlived valks
Was gonna mention HoRb also being PSY would throw lantern more into her grave
look like hrb dkey is same as ely dkey level

My horb s2, they’ll probably do adv post spending event or something, I don’t think I can afford SS since funds needed for ascension supply’s 
HoH..?
Actually both HoHe in 8.1 and HLE in 8.5
How did HoH steal lantern weather?
Bro she stole back Yae Kasumi Type
Yae is for both ice and fire
Lantern was still leading in 7.4 when it dropped back
It was for both really, but before HoHe's DK dropped, she had the lead
Elygood
Lampbad
Lantern didnt exist playable wise in 7.4 though
Crap I wanted to say 7.5
7.3 sena coralie¹ helia¹
7.4 thelema
7.5 lantern
7.6 songque
7.7 teri
7.8 hofi dkey vita
7.9 sparkle
8.0 dudu
8.1 Badum HoH dkey
8.2 sushang
8.3 helia²
8.4 coralie²
8.5 hle and horb dkey

some sv still use lamp in the last kasumi so we don't know who's better
Its comparable
mainly hoh is better here because thelema can break shield for her, while lantern has to break it herself
Bro deadass made a list like I didn't know shit 💀💀 just for a silly error I didn't want to make
Huh oh no- i like listing the valks out
Oh
I wasn't questioning ur knowledge, i just listed it out for fun and reference
Im sorry if it felt that way-
I miss getting so many p1 valks in a row but at the same time I need time for ascension supply’s 
im going to skip next valk after ely
im saying it now
i surely wont regret my words
Dw, I just misunderstood it
I dont
Should be a
2:1 or 3:1 ratio for sure
For every 3 pt2 valks, a pt1 valk releases
They knew they flopped so hard
It's today 
pretty much expected this ever since smoldudu came out

That would be fire ngl
Actually, is Rita the only char that changed damage types?
Excluding Phys
Nvm, Himeko as well
And Teri xdd
Himeko had physical, lightning, fire, and ice!
So exciting
No ice teri iirc...... :(
CH

Sakura has one battlesuit for every element
Damn, you're right
||Fire. Physical. Ice. Lightning. Long ago, the himekos lived in harmony. Then everything changed when chapter 9 attacked.||
ig not changing elements is a more recent trend than I thought
The way this is the hi3 equivalent of Natasha e6
That just makes her BA have hp scaling
Exactly
The concept of what you get at sss/e6 being a nothing burger
why is that a natasha specific thing then
that applies to so many other characters
you're also missing the complete point of CH's SSS
All the other healers had hp scaling on BA (aside from bailu) if they scaled with hp iirc
It's the most infamous on hsr twt since it's the one most tweeted about where you see a tweet with a just picture of it
The point and why CH's sss is so infamous is because it makes her deal ice damage when she's more for physical teams. It's not really viral because of social media and it has nothing to do with her stat scalings
Maybe she was designed that way to help against SK. Idk. But we used her sss to joke how she's a pseudo ice valk
SK can also get the bonus dmg with ice? I thought it was just fire this entire time 
It's any elemental
like we joke about non crits being ice damage but no it's actually ice damage
I think it was fire at least
I guess I just saw the affix for a vid being bonus fire dmg and assumed it was fire from that
Was 1,001 even high dmg back then? 
No
not really
I should note we do have other phys supports dealing ice like snowy sniper too
But CH was a gacha exclusive and that was her sss skill. Her final skill
Wow it really can't win 
But she got pretty pyramind
pretty pyramid that breaks the game 
So like uhm
Since hle is out....
How is she? Like as a support?
abyss isn't out yet
It barely just went live in CN 
As from beta, she can make SD enemy instant to solid state. Just like songque, but for World Star and Grail of Infititude
Does that mean shes a good songque support?
Yes. And as DPS, you can use her in SD weather
But it doesn't mean she is for songque. She is for SD team in World Star and Grail of Infititude
No i meany like is she a good songque support, cuz she can do the same thing as songque
And extend the duration if u time it right- right?
For the solid state extend, dunno

wait for songque boss, probably only one 
So how is she in ws? Like supporting teri or sparkle :D

yeah
too
Doubt you'd use HLE with sparkle 
does
want the HLE or some other teams? 
Why not :(
don't you already have teri vita for sparkle
Teris not usually BiS anywhere though
I got all ws supports, except...the ones who just released..obviously... and thelema and lantern
you don't need BiS for rl though, having sparkle and teri alone already guarantees a good score for qua
Well its the only score or uh weather i do good on so yeah
it's not like sparkle dps is needed anywhere else
Why would u use Sparkle...Teri? Though

in your case, you're using teri dps since sparkle has no weapon
Well uhm thats what vitas weapon is for
that doesn't stop the no time stop issue though
is herrscher of rebirth support form avaliable in ER with divine key
maybe the form swap is still there in ER only or something, otherwise it'd be kinda weird since like 2 of her signets wouldn't work 
no
short hair seele the origin of seele

so did they change her signets then or are 2 of them just unusable now 
just add very minor effect

Sushang also changed her type of damage (Ice PSY > BIO Bleed)
I was excluding Phys
Oh
Alien Guard's Last Waltz


Glblul 480d again
Thelema boss first? 

Sena 2025

Dam
want the whole channel to clap for you or bonk you 

IT girls and they're not playing tag 
no wei thel dead
But I just got her from asc supply this can't be 

This is why pulling adv always bad
This is why I'll wait for SS Ely 
Besides, thel wants lamp for symphony hellmaru, which u dont have

Bricked


can ely3 save hi3 revenue
What the sht lmao
Can someone test PAWS-FDD-HLE?
HLE-PAWS-FDD badly scores here 
Helia bad real


ye i just got it too 
Oof
Coralie¹ 
yes
No world I'm going back to RL with such low score
Glblul is at 508 in RL currently
symphony hellmaru, 2 ice bad 
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Im sure Wepless HLE, Badum Helia works 
leylah JK 

this is agg 3? damn 😭
😪
Just noticed I'm stupid cause I used Teri AOp instead of SQ so I lacked AR
😭
it's only gonna be like 10 point diff.
hows ur bracket score rn? didn't know the score for this boss is this high
When I checked a few hours ago, first place was a dozen plus points above me

Who's divine key is releasing next?
Seele HoRB on 23 oct
Is she a good physical dps?
I've heard that elysia the meta ice dps is coming
yes new players should pull new ely first
should not pull horb dlc cus you cant even get horb right now
Do the new abyss bosses need the new ely and the DK Seele or could I get away with like…RS or S2 Ely dps teams? I have every p2 except Lantern and Sparkle
if you are in RL, you will be fine without newest valk, may take the L here and there but you will stay
Is that for both or just new ely?
Or ig you just meant in general, in which case fair enough
both, but again, i dont say that you will be fine when fighting their boss, you may be able to get away with some boss but not for the others, but you will stay
are you sure
i got 13th on eu rl with 788 pts
dudu boss too
but are you in A3?
got -100
not what i mean 
well, i never drop down to A3 when i skip new valks
sound like skill issue 
K, ty
just unlucky bracket
that's just how na regularly operates
no one plays till the last few minutes
can i still download cn without being in the region or- silly question prob i know
downloading isn't difficult, the important thing is do you have account because creating cn account is very difficult (for foreigners)

oh.. then ggs
seele is getting a new set and an astral op?
dkey and stig set
okii thank you so much!!
No new Aop 
Chenxue just released, we ain't getting a new one for a while

No more aops please until new ring 
I still have to get ss chenxue 
At least it'll benefit my trio, and future paws and ely
I just realized I only have DS for my horb with dkey for aop, I could use teriteri since vita hofin combo but 
I don't even have 2s PB yet since I only have 53 boxes so 
I could actually get PB from spending event since I'll just need about 22 boxes I think 
pb needs 3 star not 2
Oh 
7.3
7.6
8.1
8.4
8.1
Ty

SS Sera 
Unless you have no Sera 
Hows S sera

:)
Maybe doable?
SSS DS still might be better DMG wise though I wouldn't really know since I don't have Sera
Oh
Nor do I know the max for the Crit DMG and SO phys 
i have s0 ds
you'll get to the story someday
Don’t have much xtal for SD Ely,should I summon on Horb’s dkey first?
I need ss Sera and ss chenxue 
No Sera and chenxue is S

So far In RL Sera I could be fine at just S but chenxue definitely needs SS
if you need an ss aop in rl, you might be cooked
It's trio 
trio might be cooked
It can be good just needs ss chenxue 
Chen rlly aint that bug for trio
At least my trio gets ss chenxue next patch and then ss hotruth come 8.6
really trying to justify that sss hofi
Might as well get 3S Chen at that point
he can't, he needs budget for pulling advs
What
yes I know
I didn’t think anyone actually pulled on those
I considered pulling their once
20 times for s2 HRB
Decided against it
She didn’t get a single abyss until I got the s2 anyway 
My current ascension plans are vita, paws, new ely
Vita?
Only 50 pulls on vita for SS since mines S2
Right… 
Wait
U have s2 vita and plan on getting ss but didn’t get sera or Chen ranks?
This guy loves adv pulling
Don't even try to reason with them, you'll lose braincells
and hair
The first seq4 in SO is big 
damn
just a silver close to 900
i did mean ur agony bracket tho, incase there's a way to help you with your score
late message but.. incase someone didn't answer you yet, can you elaborate more about how much from the story did you finish or not finish? do you still have a lot of content to do? hows ur crystals and pity rn?
Predicting 8.6 will bring us back Himeko because bubble universe shenanigans
Monkey paw curls and you instead get HSR himeko

we usually get event valk in big patch, 8.6 should be normal in between patch
collab is possible
but we should get one of the flame chase if it happen
Cyrene to cash in on hsr players as bait

not sure about that, they also get cyrene at about the same time, not a good bait
If there was a collab they would've announced it.
Current event doesn't seem like it will tease anything by the nature of the story being told.
So either there's one more event not yet announced (since there's nothing for the entirety of November) or it's a main story valk
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give me sera valk
they better release short week version else we will have 2 big spending patch next each other
they alr confirm 8.6 will be 9w ?
based on bp
ah
Aren't we going to be getting a cross over or something soonish seeing as HSR got one? (Not sure about other hoyo titles)
nobody knows
Hasn't there been one every year since 2021? (I know they skipped a year)
crossovers aren't two way either
a single instance of genshin and star rail aren't really reliable history to go off of
we did have eva too
or maybe you want to consider other lesser collabs like kung fu tea or lorelei
and promare
I was more leaning towards a character coming over as lesser collab as they seem to be temporary
incidentally gakuen (school dayz) had two HI3 collabs already but hi3 got nothing from it
well all i can tell you are what's already in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins
anything beyond that are not known/speculations/or maybe even leaks that are forbidden here
8.6 date in the picture above the CN release of that patch or GLB?
8.9 animated short trust

GLB is 1 January next year for 8.6
So should hopefully hear something around a week or 2 prior then (Mid november-ish)
Can we exchange artbook on oct 8
10k,all done
hmm what valks do u have? what gear do you have, most importantly if u have horb
u can still do the free 10 pulls to see if u get lucky for hle
All p2 no sus no teri,yes horb
hmm try a lil bit on hle using any freebies u get, if u dont get her go for horb dkey
Main dps what team,support what team
for horb?
these still isn't enough data but for dps horb but vita is a fixed slot, the other slot is hofi/fws/hle
for support horb she can support goi and ws but she's.. mostly ass in both, i don't see her as a viable ws support but you can use her as a goi support (but there's fws/ps/hoh (sometimes) that are better picks here) if she's needed there, other slot is mainly taken by fdd
here's an extra info if you don't know: p1 horb doesn't use her new set and dkey, for p1 horb her og gear is better for dps and the dkey doesn't let horb be in her support form
that won't matter much cuz starless is disappearing but it's still worth noting
Starless slowly dying out 
probably we can exchange artbook on oct 6
we
we probably wont get anything 
Lily! 
Nice to meet you 
Yep nice to meet you too 
Sometimes coming here since I remembered the server exists 
Moved it up a bit so I can find it 
s1 support
W
Not Ely putting 3-4 chars at the same time in retirement home


The only suport i need in my life is you~ 
Every time i see moriso here i ll flirt. Bah bai now
now kiss
buff for who
We get collabs multiple times a year.
But major collabs have only been:
- End Of 2020 (EVA)
- Mid 2021 (GI)
- Mid-End of 2024 (HSR)
Promare: he s an useless stig and 2 paid only costumes
actually glb RL is 5D higher! 
Buffs from Ely
Kek
Breach where 
what were the v5 changes? i think v4 was released around a week ago
bro she is live now
(Almost) Deadbita
oh i see mb
💰
That sort of deal again
Hitcount sucks and should be removed from the game 
skill issue
oh another scam bchip box
how generous of them to give the horbless ppl that didnt get her from the 8.1 milestone (which is still diabolical) an option to use the dkey! and theyll still stuggle against the ranked horb havers! nice!
srs tho i though horb dkey was mostly skip for most new ppl due to not having a way to get her..
ps cant do it? 
I don't have her weapon 

Why do you think I'm complaining about hitcount 

i though she could still help u wpless 😭
no dmg
😔
Hare!
HoRb!
HoFi!
HoO for the 20th time!
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she would be added to reserve eventually anyway 
everything except horb is in dorm isn't it
HoRb, LV and FoV
and she wont be worth getting from there, like hoh 
Omg yay i own vita hofi and fws
note that its general advice, bosses will have their preferences
she'll be as worth as HoHE, which is very little
😔
But i. But its horb :(
😭
Ew gross
goi dps ps horb for ultimate cope 
i just know hoc n clock
HoC
mhm or ps if bleed
I hope i get ps from carnival... barley any hc sucks
Helia is good but i need more
paws not having the fast atk tag is still funny 

Is that false got otto
Ely? 
Gonna feel weird when they will add them into dorm banner along with another 2 or 3 P2 chars
not rlly
Not like weird as they're old so it's logical but weird as in I still remember playing Luna and spamming her in every weather
For her to finally getting off meta
More like sentimental/emotionally weird

What ?
I have no right to feel nostalgic ?
i feel the same with hoh and hofi that still have use and yet will be in dorm
at least thats a lil bit of chance for me to get ranks if i get lucky with free pulls
(even tho ill still be behind on ranks)
It feels weird seing HoFi in dorm for me
I feel you on HoHe, one thing though is that mine will be SSS by the 1st week of the patch so... No more ranks chasing for me
nicee
i still wanna get hotr from the box tho.. collection n er only tho, at least i hope i can get her or hoh from dorm with my freebies
Im gonna get HoTr too!
🤝
Will also get HoTr
oh where will u get hoh ranks if ull get hotr from the box?
i thought u meant the box
@main goblet Sis forgot Orb Witch Shop exist
Hold on let me correct my msg

does that mean me?
At this point, I have nothing for Trio so it's more like collection and dorms points for me
Yes
oh i didnt forget, i thought u alr bought the frags in there 
Oh
no HoTr in 2025
pretend it wasnt me who was saying skip hotr back when she released
I skipped Hotr for hare in 6.6.
thats even worse than my case
ykw at least hair is still used once 3 patches HoTr appears once every img weather
Hare still used ?
8.0 and 8.1 were the last apparitions of Aponia Dom
Ded
is that the hacked person thing
yeh
gone 💔
amg kurowhel moment
Where's your sss elybad
Im getting HoTr in anticipation of a divine key...
she'll get one eventually and since shes a breach support i'll be needing that dkey...
err i beg to differ, sure she can get a dkey that can actually make her a dps but her support gimmick is not being tied to the element role in p1 teams and that's not a concern in part 2, also im not expecting a new breach source so soon
still she's fine for collection sake and if you don't want the hoh in the box anyways
if u still believe that she may get a dkey that's alright, but i won't judge so soon
From precedent it seems like we get a p2 breach support every 7 or so updates, i think HoTr has a real possibility of being a breach option for the next AR, but that's just theory
However it would have to be the next AR since every AR already has at least 2 breach supports
I mean GoI only has 1 but it would just make more sense if HoTr's theoretical divine key let her give breach to the next ar
Looking at how they’ve done it, I kinda doubt HoTr and HoO are getting dkeys ngl
It would make the trio team pretty awkward if 2 of them had divine keys and 1 of them didnt, but still possible
The only 3 possibilities are,
-They're going to give HoTr and HoO dkeys
-They're going to start giving non-herrscher battlesuits dkeys
-HoRb is the last dkey that will ever come out (extremely unlikely)
Currently Vita and Coralie are the only breachers in P2
And sena
Sena is a breacher
I forgot Sena TwT, I don't own her
If hoyo REALLY doesnt wanna give HoTr and HoO dkeys, they could just go down the list of p1 valks that are old but still have kits that could function given an astral ring
Like aponia? :D
Tbh we're not even having Herrschers anymore and since the 1st option is very unlikely with how they buffed HoO and HoTr... The 2nd option is more likely
I wouldnt be surprised if every FC received a dkey before HoTr and HoO
And the more likely ones to get one after HoRb are straight up Luna and Hua Garuda
I feel like they’ll start giving p2 valks dkeys, at some point giving p1 valks dkeys would end in even bigger walls of texts cause there’s so much to adjust in order to make them meta
HoO is already buffed by HoFi's divine key
Okay that i doubt
And so is HoTr
Maybe Anni valks or just valks that sold well to milk them again
Well, with one abyss a patch
I mean p2 valks themselves kinda already have text walls
I want a Garuda dkey 
Absolutely, but when u have an old outdated valk it’s even more
Since u have the original text and then a bunch of adjustments to make it meta again
And everyone has SS+
Tbh FoV would be a pain in the ass 💀💀, they're gonna need SSS
I guess if you were to give p2 valk a divine key... you would just give them extra support tags?
Literally patch one SS
like giving sena LoA tag or smth
Garuda is amazing!
I’ll get SS1 with the battlepass

Yeah would make sense
Maybe just switch up their tags completely to give them 2 different uses depending on the gears
I'd be fine with fov dkey if adv rerun at the same time 
Doubt
Hofin
Helia¹ dkey? :0
Hofi was different
I think Sena and Lamp need divine key the most
Lampbad moment
Senas a good wod support
I think sena would be first
I can see lantern getting one but pls don’t 
actually maybe simp needs it more than sena
Very unlikely, Spending Shop run is likely
OW
Lamp stuck buried in the khia asylum basement
As first p2 s Rank she kinda holds a special place which would explain her getting the first p2 dkey too
You forgot Teri 💀💀, Teri is just doomed outside of Luna comp and Quantum
simp still outscores sparkle on some stuff but sparkle is just a lot better of a pull because of LoA so you can just brute force any quantum crap with her anyways without needing to get simp
That too
Teris only sad because theres no lightning WoD
I could see Luna being WoD if she ever gets a DK ngl
Its just unfortunate for simp that another quantum WS came out literally right after her
Could of made sparkle quantum wod..
I think GoI, her weapon spam could just generate a crap ton of SP
Teri can support wod
Would have been a lot better if LoA was her base AR
Ngl
....ehhhhh
actually potential Luna dkey can probably only be WS or WoD because simp needs to support her
I meant her as a DPS
Not if shes pt2
Theres vita sena and coralie²
If she was LoA RoO or GoI then simp loses her luna synergy and then shes even worse off than she was
Unlikely, Captainverse is over since that Ranch event
No i meant dkey
Sci looses the luna synergy
Luna would be fine
Idk... i would feel bad if that happened to her, shes basically already the worst p2 valk (maybe lamp is worse?) We dont need to kick a girl when shes down
i'm pretty sure her luna syngery is p1 exclusive
Lantern is an absolute fraud 💀💀, beaten 2 times in her own bosses
If Luna dkey makes her base AR world star or wheel of destiny then teri can support her anyways
It's more like char exclusive no ?
It's literally supporting only other Teri battlesuits
it says " before astral ring is activated " at the beginning of the buff which probably just means when astral ring is inactive
hoyo translation things
although if Luna was a WoD im pretty sure Sena/LWE or Sena/Thelema would beat any SIMP lineup anyways
Even Vita would be better than SIMP tbh
also she also provides p1 buffs, iirc she was an attempt to replace GD
Who is ...lwe?
teri battlesuits just get breach instead
Just for her Eden to be Eternal
Debating if simp or lamp is more cooked...
I forgot her name is HLE now
New Ely
Now?
Lamp having tons of world star physical and crit buffs just for her to be beaten by Elysia
Elysia battlesuit name when from love wish elf to hi love elf
Oh
Im pretty sure lanterns still a fine option for horb
I think Lamp still has the strongest buff for physical WS, she just gets beaten by HLE/Badum because her resonance strikes are really slow
Has horb had a boss at all yet?
nope not yet
Then we got no clue
shes supposed to be the new best option for dominance weather
since most of her attacks are counted as summon attacks with her dkey
Hare even more cooked than she was
Hare was always sad
Lamp is absolutely cooked... Ngl her support is literally useless bc there's almost no hitcount bosses and those are generally not for her due to weathers, only has one or two bosses and is cooked in MA so...
Other problem is yes... She has the biggest PHY support but it's absolutely useless except for the rare JDS weather run
Currently
I think shes still used for hitcount kosma
I mean
when it comes around once a generation
She got the best hc for ws and WoD units
That one, RPC and Tank

Isnt HoH dps better for tank? I might be mixing up the bosses in my mind
it's fire tank
There is two variants of Tank
oops
It's Fire Tank where she tops at, HoHe is used on that boss for weakness point
Anyways yeah lantern and simp fighting for second worst p2 valk spot
Who would be the first for ya ?
Helia¹ anyone?
I mean they're fighting each other for second worse spot because one of them has to be the actual worst
Ah yes
i dont rly count HeliA and CorAlie as p2 valk...
Does there have to be a worst tho?
Then what are they?
Kinda
In any gacha there will be a definitive worst character in the game
^^
Technically crimson impulse mei is the actual worst valk in the game but i guess we can just talk about P2
CorAlie is still kinda cool today lol, HeliA just died
Oh back to an old topic but
Each pt2 valk has their usage
Sena divine key needs to give her 12 resonance
like shes so far behind the other WS valks because of her 9 reso
Nothing productive really comes out of discussing who the worst p2 valkyrie is but, its still a topic nontheless
I think its simp or lantern because they have the same amount of relevant use cases which is like... one
I think it's lamp since at least simp has her qua niche while lamp is a Valk who exists
Sci is BiS in this reso guay for sena his patch
Atleast for a SSS SSS SSS team
lol...
lamp at least has hitcount, but its only useful on like one boss
The P1 Too much nostalgia
What?
no, she actually is better there
Is it true at S0 aswell?
dunno
Well we'll see.
Vita FWS probably better for nirv
:(
can someone please explain to me why they're recommending lantern for wolf in abyss 
hoyo doesn't play their own game
i think they've been recommending lantern for this boss since hoh dkey came out
yeah sounds about right 
i think the idea was that lantern would be type neutral for the mobs even though there's a massive -50% fire debuff
what if they just like AI generate the recommend teams and all the AI saw was the type counter but not the weather itself 
that's the only thing that almost makes sense 
it would explain alot except that one time they recommended SP vs aponia and summoned entity weathers in general
like they were cooking something for this recommendation
AI generate
Jingwei 
hoyo certified team
i dont think they do lmao
tested for performance trust
hoyo has been pushing lantern really hard literally since she released. they think she's a lot better than she is

they will make everyone fight fire tank every patch until they convince us that lantern is good
can they just release a fire dps that does better on fire tank than lantern pls
im actually sick and tired of that bitch
rank coralie
rank coralie

they will and then they'll give us shadow tank until we learn that lantern is good
Tbf FDD did quite good against Fire Tank, better than FWS 
fiery washed star

FWS is truly a potential man
but only DPS FWS
leader FWS = meet potential man
"good if you have jds"
Good only against SD and groups of mobs
"badum boss? nope! Our boss"
She's shit against anything that's by itself 
no jds? demote to sinful
True
But Badum can support her 
While just remembered you can do:
JDS, HLE, Sena
Sena, Badum, HLE

Whats wrong with lantern?
because she's a horrible character that they should just let die but they're forcing her to hang on by a thread with this stupid ass fire tank being spammed 728242142 times per patch

reminds me of the rimestar and ice pig spam for fov
No trio?

I hope they don't release cutscene gameplay anymore. It's pretty boring
Hope they release another thelema/lantern gameplay 
that is one thing I'm looking forward to with the CNY stuff
free Bronya, finally get Trio, meaning we'll see less Trio Weather
are we going to have any way to get Horebirth?
only by paying?
No free ways were announced, so yeah

Cope for a adv rerun to be announced

Though 28k crystals 
cope for next ver to be free
Dominance SK doesn't have that 
guys how is ely as ws support again
What is that take, HLE literally has Harmonized Star in her tags. She can support GoI, WS and WoD as well
Ok she ain't phy but he ain't wrong. With HLE around, Badum would fill JDS's support role instead
(For Stardust)
https://marisaimpact.com/betanews/85elysia
Basically she became one of the best WoS support currently
And the S1 further reinforce that point
Gonna be forced to do Badum and HLE support for HoRb 
Unless I actually do get Vita from carnival
Bye
HS ≠ HSS
Hoshi biggest nerd confirmed

Just say shadow tag
shadow tag in 2025
Den in 2025

Aight HS is Heavenly Shift, mb
Hey now, Perish Trap won EUIC this year!!!

But i gotta whale for that :(
And whaling is.. 
Kinda funny how act 3 of the main event has yet to release but today we already start another event
No need whel just get lucky ez

speedrun for artbook
Or lucksack OwO
I swear if I lucksack again

For the 4th consecutive patch I will summon in
in
Then they actually put Tribunal 💀💀
Which Tribunal? 
Dominance should be HoRb's now
Bleed is still LV's ofc
Lightning also
Old cycle still has ice debuff
Need to random sunny weather or sth ig
HoHe is quite literally undestructible
She is?
Currently not her weather
She almost never been out of the meta for ER
Oh
I mean everyone is meta in er
Er is just
Clear finality
If u want difficulty
--
I just wanna say that HLE's ult is really pretty 
Same for HoRb
Well depends on the valk but more like mainly the P2 valks and FC valks now
I said she wasn't as good compared to other flamechasers
I see
i think i swiched to HoFin on her release for a reason
but i forgot
pardo 
kira 
For aponia it’s just 5 ego Strat with hopefully the 10% pardo one and then you shopping spree when you get to shop and your aponia is set 

Imagine needing 5 ego



when is chapter 10 coming ? I'm really curious what the heck they have in mind 
week 3







