🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[ember locust]

Could, if old boss or new AR weather

[abstract night]

Dont jinx urself

[hearty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/maplestory-kmst-angelic-buster-cute-girl-pray-gif-9746201756203907274

[frozen cobalt]

free sena in next year trust me

[vale granite]

Right until LV gets one

[ember locust]

Literally the last time I said that, I literally lucksacked Coralie

[abstract night]

Itll run out soon

[rustic stump]

HoRb dk?!

YES!!! YATTA!!!

[shrewd socket]

wonder who's going into reserve

could be Susannah and Kira

[ember locust]

Oldie, I think you forgot who you're talking too

[shrewd socket]

what the whale

[abstract night]

Thats so funny

We joined the server the same day

[ember locust]

Pure lucksacker F2P pulls

[atomic coral]

i should be fine too

[hearty hawk]

Spare me some change please

[ember locust]

Lmfao I joined on 9th

[abstract night]

Yeah

[opaque stirrup]

spare me too please (i still have to do 20 more pulls for lantern skin)

[ember locust]

It displays 10th on your profile for me

[opaque stirrup]

[hearty hawk]

I might skip new elysia but her animations are so cool

[opaque stirrup]

seems unskippable for me but knowing my lucc i think im the one getting skipped

[abstract night]

Oh timezone shenanigans

[hearty hawk]

[ember locust]

All of that + the rest of this patch + at least 25 pulls for the next patch, it's gonna be so fun

[abstract night]

56k needed if u hard pity everything

[ember locust]

I'll literally be fine bro

Current : 27 873 crystals, 4 gear pulls, 17 char pulls

In-coming gains :

3500 crystals from 7 weeks of ER
6500 crystals from 6.5 weeks of Abyss
2880 crystals from dailies
400 crystals from main event
950 crystals from BP
10 gear pulls on the end of 8.4
15 pulls from 8.5's logins
600 crystals from maintenance
1140 crystals from 6 weeks of MA

Total = 43 843 crystals + 14 gear pulls + 32 char pulls

Final total = 202 pulls obtained for 8.5

[abstract night]

Gj

[ember locust]

Literally the right amount if hard pity

[atomic coral]

and the first 10 pull for ely is free

[ember locust]

THAT too

Basically

212 pulls

[willow crane]

Wait free? Not discounted 50%?

Hallelujah, praise pink Jesus

[atomic coral]

actually free 10 pull

[willow crane]

I’m confused about this, are they giving away 300K art books for free only in CN?

[atomic coral]

yep

we didn't get the last one either

[steep axle]

glb artvook when

[cinder cloak]

never

[prisma tartan]

we still can cope right for glueball?

[untold tree]

We can hope

[shrewd socket]

just buy it

[gleaming imp]

8.5 is 10 weeks right?

That would mean 8.5 is bare minimum 30k worth of crystals for a f2p

That's the equivalent of one full ascension supply minus weapon

[steep axle]

im broke

[gleaming imp]

Question big spending event skins eventually go up for sale for pink tickets right?

[steep axle]

ye

[slim lion]

Yea just takes a decade

[gleaming imp]

future free spending event songque skin

Question when do get 8.5 full patch details that things an overview of the patch and shows additions/changes to shops?

[limpid cape]

will there be a banner with HoRb new stigmatas? or how will we get them

[atomic coral]

yeah it's gacha

stigs will also be craftable like everyone else's

[limpid cape]

what? since when we can craft sig stigs?

[atomic coral]

since 7.3

[limpid cape]

where is it?

[atomic coral]

foundry

[desert lily]

All part 2 stigmata are craftable

[limpid cape]

OH WOW

[steep axle]

is it a returnee i see here

i dont deserve to talk actually i waste 6 cubes for crafting stig early every patch

[limpid cape]

yeahhh im a returnee, im playing since a long time but i got back recently

[steep axle]

i should gaslight trio into playing again

[atomic coral]

nowadays stigs are the easy part, you pull for weapon then stop

[limpid cape]

well i found these sig stigmas but they are only for p2 valks.... all of my p2 valks have their sig stigmas

is there a way to get sig stigmas for p1 valks?

[atomic coral]

we also get a stig box by login every patch

[steep axle]

well

[limpid cape]

yeee i love it

[steep axle]

you can try foundry to red mats to shop

or bp

[limpid cape]

which stigmas give red mats?

[steep axle]

p1 ones

g2 to g4 i belive

[limpid cape]

can i do the same with weapons?

[steep axle]

yeah but foundry weapons need extra souls

id chose bp tbf universal mirage is boring

[limpid cape]

im thinking about buying bp....

[steep axle]

im f2p sadly

too poor to spend

[limpid cape]

samee but this cheaper bp is kinda worth

[gleaming imp]

Be F2P don’t swipe on gacha

[desert lily]

Already spent 20 dollars for 8.4

[tulip sparrow]

is that senti DK in the right of the box

[desert lily]

Sadly no

Those are affixes

[tulip sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/446011203244916747/1199991240670846986/950605924517707776.gif

[desert lily]

Well- the items that give 23/23 attack affixes I believe

SoE: AE, 7T, FHD, Utu, ToE, and AF are the ones in there

[tulip sparrow]

good. i can get twins

[desert lily]

Didn't get those yet from BP?

[tulip sparrow]

i dont buy bp

[desert lily]

You still get the pink balls in order to get them?
You don't need to buy Knight or paladin to get the DKeys in BP

[gleaming imp]

I really hope we get p2 suits for the other flame chasers

[desert lily]

Cope

[ember locust]

Damn, guess I won't need to get AF in BP

[desert lily]

I'm probably gonna keep a hold of it since 4 of those I'm missing, 3 are in BP

[ember locust]

AF is literally the only one I'm missing from BP as of now, the rest that is missing is just Intimidator and that Stellar key ||Well now soon Stellar Keys||

[desert lily]

I'm forever gonna have -40 attack cause of those plus some extra since I might not get synergy for HoRb's weapon

[gleaming imp]

I’m at -30 atk once I get ToE and horb dkey drops

-10 atk every time a new Stellar key drops

[dry delta]

how much theoretical dps we looking at with MPE HOHE and HLE

[gleaming imp]

Put HoH as lead, and you’ll have 2/3 wod so you’ll charge up ar once every 13 patches and MPE is just there to sit still look pretty

[dry delta]

ok but like thats two flower domes

[desert lily]

MPE is Phys though

[dry delta]

so cute

[cinder cloak]

[dense harness]

the ultimate pink dome

[ember locust]

Lol

[dry delta]

in the Falling stars realm

[ember locust]

Flower Domes + A galactic dome

[dry delta]

• A cute domain expansion

[ember locust]

Actually not even a dome, it's a domain expansion

[dry delta]

how do i make it sound more elysia

[ember locust]

Hmm good question

[dry delta]

eh cant think of one just cute domain expansion will have to do

[dense harness]

it's an explosion of Love ?

[dry delta]

expansion of Love!

[desert lily]

HoRb Domain expansion

[alpine mulch]

damn so no news for a free HoRb

[desert lily]

Just her DKey

[alpine mulch]

If not free, whats the next most likely source for her availability?

[shrewd socket]

reserve next year?

[alpine mulch]

GOI will be by then

[atomic coral]

go back in time and get the free horb

[alpine mulch]

kicking myself for not downloading the game when I knew she was free

[gleaming imp]

Most likely a adv rerun like they did hofin for her dkey debut

It just costs only 28k crystals

I’m stuck with only S2 horb unless they add her stamps to shop like they did HoH when she got her dkey

[alpine mulch]

"only"

[gleaming imp]

I’ve been able to afford about like 4 advs at this point I think off the top of my head as a f2p

About to be another one soon with songque ascension supply

[atomic coral]

because you skipped everything else

[gleaming imp]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact-3rd-honkai-songque-animation-astral-op-gif-10451751730134965050

The main reason I’m pulling songque

[desert lily]

Guess I'm happy to have gotten HoRb from discounted 10 in starter

[gleaming imp]

Like how could someone not say mother after seeing this

[desert lily]

Ayo-

[gleaming imp]

The director said take five but songque heard change lives and she did just that and served

[twin dune]

Any info on seele ring?

[desert lily]

Not yet

Between LoA or WS though

[twin dune]

Since she has resonance and not LoA tag

[atomic coral]

if she's ws, they will probably give her a boss with a random hitcount phase in the middle so people use Lantern with her

[twin dune]

I m more inclined to believe it s WS

[twin dune]

Ay yoo lantern revive when i m missing 2 stigs

[desert lily]

You mean new Ely or Seele?

[dry delta]

Where is veliona??

[desert lily]

Not getting a DKey

[dry delta]

no i mean in part 2 where is she

?

[atomic coral]

at home eating hot peppers

[dry delta]

poof??

[desert lily]

No idea, all we get is a letter from her for Seele

[dry delta]

=_=

[desert lily]

The current chapter^

Not much of an actual appearance but we know she's around

[twin dune]

Seele

[desert lily]

I am gonna agree with you on WS since her gameplay doesn't feel like LoA

[twin dune]

There s gameplay?

[desert lily]

Well- no

Her style before DKey don't fit LoA

[twin dune]

Ah u mean her normal gameplay

[desert lily]

Yeah

[twin dune]

Well neither did ellie s tbh

Ehhhh ehhhh

Anything could have been Done..even hofin could have spawned with her qte and full descent ready

Ready to combo weapon and maybe ult before swap

[atomic coral]

when dps horb does that move where she throws the scythe and starts flying, i can see that move triggering resonance

[twin dune]

i kinda wanna hope she s loa but again no loa tag

[smoky lintel]

FWS also had no HSS tag

[desert lily]

Only tag we know is Symbiosis for HoRb

[twin dune]

Praying with all my might seele is loa cuz i love loa

[twin dune]

Not resonance?

weird i could have sworn i read something here

[desert lily]

We didn't get any other confirmation for other tags

[twin dune]

Is ellie resonance?

[desert lily]

That's New Ely

Yeah

[twin dune]

Ahhh then i mistook

[smoky lintel]

ely has symbioses, HSS and reso yeah

[desert lily]

New Ely can support WoD and WS

[twin dune]

seele loa pls da wei

[atomic coral]

we only see her on ely's team which means she must have symbiosis

[twin dune]

Thelema about to get strong

[desert lily]

Her Ult was up in the dev video

[desert lily]

When with new Ely

[smoky lintel]

it's more likely she'll get replaced tbh

but we dont know anything for sure

[desert lily]

Thelema dps Oli means

[smoky lintel]

we'll have to see how much ely buffs WoD to judge if i'd even be an upgrade

[desert lily]

True

But triple SD is now possible

[smoky lintel]

yeah i dont really see the value of it though unless ely gives breach

[desert lily]

Unlikely

[smoky lintel]

pls gib ely critical value pop

[desert lily]

She has SP debt

Funniest thing to me

[gleaming imp]

I’ve been seeing lots of positive reception to 8.5 generous freebies from people on TikTok and twitter

[final locust]

its the same as old cn anniv rewards 😭

i guess cuz hotr and hohe box
i would have preferred horb and hotr

[gleaming imp]

Thats actually the reason, lots of casuals are excited and happy for free HoH and hotruth since it’s ely and also it’s bronya and to complete their trio

This is good PR

[smoky lintel]

~~Good PR for one version and then they'll delete it again ~~

[final locust]

instead of free 10x on ely banner

it should have been free ely

[shrewd socket]

they would make S0 ass for that to happen tho

[scarlet sapphire]

The patch after CN anni has always had a Herrscher giveaway
I'm guessing it'll be Horb this year

[final locust]

im guessing horb card in bp/reserve

[shrewd socket]

inb4 it's hare

[gleaming imp]

Tbh it all depends on the valk after ely to retain that hype, 8.6 got to be someone huge

[scarlet sapphire]

I remember free HoS happening exactly one patch after Brick's release, two years ago

[smoky lintel]

I'd rather bet that it will be the CNY dkey valk

If they'll release one that is

[smoky lintel]

The hype won't even last the 10 week version

[gleaming imp]

I would like a free horb easy SS horb for me

[gleaming imp]

I mean it is 10 weeks

[smoky lintel]

Yeah that's what I was saying lol ?

[gleaming imp]

But on the bright side more time to farm crystals

[shrewd socket]

the none Herrscher uncovered valk rn are:

Hare
LV
FoV

oh wow that's actually few

yes, ik LV and FoV are in BP, but that doesn't save them from dkey treatment

[scarlet sapphire]

There's 5 HoH stamps in supply shop right now and 8 in pure witch orb shop
That's enough for a free SS even if you never pulled her at all (like me)

[smoky lintel]

HoRb not hohe

[scarlet sapphire]

Oh wait, d'oh

[gleaming imp]

My HoH is SS3, I could get her to SSS rn but saving up my gwo and Bp for hotruth for SS hotruth since I need 40 frags for SS hotruth since I have s0 and get s2 from box and I had 14 hotruth frags lying around

SS hotruth is most important to me rn since my sss hofin needs the help SS hotruth provides

[dense harness]

I already have SS Hotruth, my HoH is SS2 she'll get SS3

Why am i a 100 off, i won't have it for Elysia

[final locust]

you will

just at the end of her banner

maybe not even

[gleaming imp]

I just want to point out how aponia and Eden in the back are serving mother

[final locust]

how many hours to beta

[shrewd socket]

5?

[still vine]

[naive briar]

It is 0648 now and test usually starts in the evening

[final locust]

FUCK

early morning for me

💔

[naive briar]

Imagine my notification

[gleaming imp]

I hope horb dkey is LoA dps so I can run vita and cora2 for breach and conversion

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

And HoTr is not covered in Reserve too yet

[ember locust]

Cope, since the dev video already show HoRb being played with Ely, it's gonna be one of her tags for AR : either WS, WoD or GoI. Ely does not cover LoA

[safe iron]

there’s no dkey for WoD yet?

[final locust]

hohe? 😭

[gleaming imp]

HoH

[safe iron]

ou rite thought she was loa

[final locust]

fuh naw

[still vine]

maybe she'd be less mid if she was

[final locust]

shut up

u lie

[still vine]

[final locust]

idk who ur fav valk is

but shes probably irrelevant

[safe iron]

rite like!!!

[vale granite]

Same as mine iirc

[still vine]

[vale granite]

Smh giving away the answer

[final locust]

isn't yours silverflop n-irrelevant

[still vine]

jokes on you she's about to become relevant again

[vale granite]

Silverwing? Where tf did you get that from 😭

[final locust]

u like her

ik u do

[vale granite]

No?

[final locust]

horb not relevant

i bet bacon doesnt even have her S2 4/4

fake fan

[still vine]

I do actually

[final locust]

me when i LIE

[still vine]

and she's about to be relevant again at least

[final locust]

is she

we'll see about that.

u don't deserve her

[still vine]

that's what dkeys do

[vale granite]

That means you don't as well

[final locust]

i do

i'm the best HoRb fan

[still vine]

why

[final locust]

because

i like her more than u

[still vine]

are you sure

[final locust]

yes im positive

[still condor]

castorice instead of seele in server name
skirk instead of seele in discord name
best horb fan where

[still vine]

[vale granite]

You're washed in regards to being a HoRb fan

[final locust]

[vale granite]

You were a part of the HoRb cult in the past

[final locust]

i literally ran the HoRb cult

[vale granite]

Yes, you're washed now

[final locust]

wdym part of it
i was the HoRb cult leader

[final locust]

no wowi got banned and it disbanded

[still condor]

past tense #nooticing

[gleaming imp]

Omg you know now that you mention it don’t they remind you of one another and speaking of hsr doesn’t elysia look just like Cyrene?

[vale granite]

Oh wow, they're banned?

Interesting

[final locust]

wowi got banned forever ago

[still condor]

no castorice doesnt remind me of seele actually

thats seeles job

if anything cas reminds me of the ugly coralie

[gleaming imp]

If only that seele had screen time

[desert lily]

If she's WS she can still have Vita as BiS

[gleaming imp]

[still condor]

WS in 2025 tho

[desert lily]

New Ely has Domain Resonance somehow and HSS
So both in 2025

[final locust]

she's butterfly themed and death themed

[long forum]

Am i insane or did they actually lighten up the blue on elysia's design more? Either way i like it was more on the 3d model than when we first saw her battlesuit

[final locust]

how does that not remind you of seele/HoRb

[shrewd socket]

Castorice is butterfly and death

Seele is butterfly and rebirth

[long forum]

In a sense castorice is also rebirth

[still condor]

one is a flop and the other is seele

[long forum]

She overseas the river of souls and allows souls to pass through

[final locust]

someone ban him

[desert lily]

[final locust]

i am the #1 HoRb fan

i started HI3 because of HoRb

[long forum]

That already disqualifies you, the rest of us were waiting for years

[shrewd socket]

unironically, same, started for horb

[final locust]

i even pulled her expa select in 7.1

[shrewd socket]

same...

[final locust]

and her gear in 7.1
despite having 0 phys valks

i don't regret it, she carried me in ER for so long

[desert lily]

Her being my first S rank Valk

[final locust]

and now she's getting a dkey

[still vine]

wow me too

[shrewd socket]

im gonna be sad if i need to skip horb dkey

[vale granite]

What's with the HoRb simps suddenly

[shrewd socket]

but it is what it is

[final locust]

fake horb fan

[desert lily]

Didn't even start playing for HoRb, I just decided to play this over G Game

[vale granite]

Based ngl

[final locust]

real horb fans will bust their wallets for her dk

[still vine]

I'll have 50k by 8.5 apparently so we good

[desert lily]

The DKey is the first thing I'm pulling

[shrewd socket]

games don't want my wallet

[still vine]

as you should

[gleaming imp]

I got my horb 7.4 at hard pity for s0, should’ve waited for adv in hindsight tbh

[final locust]

not me

i need my acc to be good

i also like ely just as much as horb

[still vine]

so get both

[desert lily]

DKey has less time than Valk

[shrewd socket]

i don't even know if ill have enough for HLE

[gleaming imp]

Dkeys are always good to pick up they revive a valk and that valk does well and lasts, so far my hofin is thriving and even top scored on my rl bracket on a cora2 shill

Cora2 bad, trio on top

[desert lily]

Your bracket was slacc

[still vine]

[shrewd socket]

you just refused to play Coralie at all

[still vine]

coragood

[final locust]

coraneededforely

whether drya likes it or not his precious ely will need coraneededforely

[gleaming imp]

, I haven’t used her once as a dps since getting her

[desert lily]

The 3rd member for new Ely seems very boss dependant

[still vine]

[final locust]

unless some-fucking-how the breach support with nasty buffs and hella timestop isn't the best ely support

[gleaming imp]

As a loa support she’s kind of slow compared to ely who I was using previously as second loa support with vita

[shrewd socket]

you just stop using Vita

[still condor]

coralie slower than ely? what are you smoking

[desert lily]

FDD faster and better than bad woman

[shrewd socket]

Vita is the slow one

[gleaming imp]

I mean outside of SO

[desert lily]

Also slower than HoHe-

[final locust]

yeah still dunno what ur smoking

[gleaming imp]

For ely it’s just WA for cora2 it’s WA and ult

[desert lily]

Tf you on Drya

[still condor]

ult is time stopped

[desert lily]

Yeah

[gleaming imp]

It is?

[desert lily]

Ult also gives breach

[gleaming imp]

I didn’t expect that

[still condor]

you didnt know? the ely shilling has permanently damaged your brain

[gleaming imp]

I didn’t read her kit

[shrewd socket]

does HoHe even have good buffs?

[desert lily]

[final locust]

yes

[desert lily]

Not in LoA and WoD

[final locust]

her buffs are very good

in GoI only tho

[shrewd socket]

Styxx it's in LoA im asking

[final locust]

well they might be the same

[desert lily]

She's now 4th behind FDD, FWS, and PS

[shrewd socket]

the only issue HoHe has in GoI is that she's slow and no ice GoI right?

[desert lily]

Yeah

Good DMG but slow

[final locust]

well that's about to change

[shrewd socket]

not the slow part tho

[desert lily]

Yeah

[final locust]

slowness shouldn't matter too much

[shrewd socket]

in RL probably

[desert lily]

Does in Abyss

[final locust]

her damage is what matters
and for ice weather that's very high

also she's not that slow outside of SO

[desert lily]

Nirvana is does matter

[final locust]

not slow at all outside of SO
fast

and on-demand ult with no sp cost

[still condor]

no sp cost is for all GoI supports with their qtes

[shrewd socket]

wonder if they make a new symphony boss

[final locust]

no it isn't

pretty sure FWS and PS still cost SP

[shrewd socket]

not all

[final locust]

outside of SO

[shrewd socket]

ik PS has 0 cost

[still condor]

FWS and PS absolutely have free outside SO with qte

[final locust]

i dont think they do

[shrewd socket]

PS does at least

[still condor]

this is FWS
With Grail of Infinitude activated:
After QTE entry, the SP cost for activating and maintaining the next Ultimate is reduced to 0. This effect is lost upon exit.
QTE entry will fully restore Fortune.

[desert lily]

They could
PAWS, FDD, HLE
HLE, FDD, PAWS would work

[still condor]

PS has it too

[desert lily]

All GoI supports have it

Well except FDD-

[final locust]

ely's doesnt require QTE activation iirc

[shrewd socket]

FDD just uses all her SP regardless so

[final locust]

oh nvm it does

[desert lily]

Yeah

[vale granite]

How so?

[final locust]

but still everyone sleeping on ely's dmg

[desert lily]

No?

[shrewd socket]

my card doesn't work for online purchases

[vale granite]

Wtf

[desert lily]

She has good DMG but she's just slow

[final locust]

she's genuinely not that slow lmao

[shrewd socket]

at least for outside of country ones

[vale granite]

Ah, that I can relate to

[final locust]

also, you don't have to do her WA in SO

if you want her to be faster you can do NAs and skip it. you just lose a fuckton of damage

[vale granite]

You still have to wait for her finisher to come off CD

Which takes almost the same time as WA

[vale granite]

Otherwise no SP

[shrewd socket]

might as well do that fuckton dmg

[final locust]

it saves like 1-3 points but in the grand scheme of things it's a point loss

unless you can burst it down without needing the WA

but yeah ely really isn't all that slow

her entire SO sequence takes like. maybe 10-12 points

[shrewd socket]

💀

[final locust]

also, the pointloss can be counteracted by the damage she deals

as long as it's ice weather and not typedown. both of which will occur on HLE ice bosses

[desert lily]

Depends really

[final locust]

no it doesn't

[shrewd socket]

yes it does

[desert lily]

Considering Thelema is spending they could bring back Houdou

[final locust]

huodou is a thelema boss that you don't use hohe on anyway tho

[desert lily]

Can use HLE

[shrewd socket]

HLE as HSS support

[final locust]

huodou is paper thin

HP bar is shreddable

[desert lily]

Reviving WoD and WS with this just one Valk

[shrewd socket]

this means qua weather also revive

[final locust]

uh.... yeahhhh.... 💀

[shrewd socket]

[desert lily]

They never stop QUA

[final locust]

there are no ranged or ice bosses that youd use HLE on that are bio

and, obviously, there are no bio SD bosses xd

[desert lily]

Bio SD?
Dual type?

[final locust]

SD weather

[desert lily]

True
The only SD Valk that has a bio boss is FWS though he's flux weather

[final locust]

there's also blood SD mech swarm which would be perfect for HLE + HHE

all signs point to hhe being HLE's best support

[desert lily]

Boss dependant

[final locust]

some shit with FWS on SD bosses is probably probable

but otherwise? no one should come close esp on ice/ranged weather

[desert lily]

Likely gonna have another Extreme Environment Abyss for Ely

[final locust]

as long as it's not bio that's probably gonna be hhe support too

[desert lily]

Either typeless or SD

[desert lily]

Probably not-
I would say whomever is the fastest of the GoI supports besides FDD

[final locust]

why would speed matter when you can just make up for it with damage

[random hill]

is it worth trying to get thel wep after spending

[final locust]

no

[random hill]

is carnival supply worth after getting hwe 4/4 or save

[desert lily]

You get a free 20 to use on carnival

[final locust]

hle -> hle weap -> hrb dk -> save

[random hill]

if i don't get them after that😞

[atomic coral]

then that's it

[desert lily]

Save

[atomic coral]

pity doesn't carry over

[desert lily]

Yeah

[final locust]

you can play around with free 20 on carnival but don't go past that

[random hill]

i don't have hrb should i still get it

[final locust]

all the carnival valks are irrelevant by the time they arrive to carnival

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-all-folks-ending-cartoons-looney-toons-gif-8344269

[desert lily]

Probably not

[final locust]

well it'll still give you 10 atk but i doubt hrb won't be free at least some point relatively close to the update

probably gonna go in reserve or smth

[random hill]

even pe and fws?

[final locust]

fws is worthless without wp
pe ???

[desert lily]

PS

[atomic coral]

ps you mean

[random hill]

mb😭

typo

[final locust]

ps without weap is cancer
take it from me lmfao

[desert lily]

There also Sparkle and Vita

[final locust]

everyone neeeds their weap

so

[desert lily]

For DPS

[random hill]

they have equip supply tho right

[final locust]

you dont get free pulls on it and you shouldnt pull it

[shrewd socket]

this ain't genshin where wep is just extra crit or atk

[random hill]

the free pulls r battlesuit only?

[shrewd socket]

yes

[atomic coral]

yep

[desert lily]

Can't use them on the equipment?

Or are those not in Carnival?

[atomic coral]

nope just battlesuit

[desert lily]

Huh alright

[random hill]

crazy

[atomic coral]

equipment is there, just no free pulls

[random hill]

😞

[desert lily]

Ah-

[shrewd socket]

the free pulls are for battlesuit carnival only

[random hill]

so it's not worth pulling wep if i get lucky

[desert lily]

Welp, I'm still deciding between sparkle and Vita anyways

[shrewd socket]

might depend

[random hill]

assuming i have enough xtals

[desert lily]

Some are fine without weapon for support

[random hill]

mainly want ps

[atomic coral]

again, pity doesn't carry over, if you don't get the weapon, you wasted your pulls

[shrewd socket]

^

[random hill]

if i have enough xtals

[shrewd socket]

if you're willing to commit

[random hill]

okay ty

[desert lily]

Already a lot to spend next patch

[shrewd socket]

real

[random hill]

getting my wallet ready

[shrewd socket]

im scared i won't get enough

[random hill]

same

do we know who's in bp?

[shrewd socket]

not yet

[desert lily]

Thelema in BP and spending is gonna be weird
But who knows what they add into BP

[final locust]

still dont

[random hill]

but bleed 😞

[still vine]

[desert lily]

Very niche

[desert lily]

HoRb AR reveal soon

[still vine]

[gleaming imp]

How much longer?

[desert lily]

2 hours or less

[muted mauve]

I need beta to open. I need to see what Ch 10 will be.
probably Langqiu again but that's not what matters

[naive briar]

carv doing beta? grab me outfit screenshot I'm suffering Elysia's back

[muted mauve]

I'm not
I'll be stalking bili

[naive briar]

[muted mauve]

[naive briar]

[desert lily]

Isn't that tomorrow?

[muted mauve]

No

Atleast it's usually on friday

[desert lily]

Tomorrow is Friday

[untold marsh]

maybe for you

[desert lily]

[untold marsh]

timezones are a thing, its friday for most of the world rn

[desert lily]

It is also for you Luna

[untold marsh]

[desert lily]

We're both NA

[muted mauve]

Like 5 more hours

no, 4

[naive briar]

most of us should be here long enough to know the world is not flat by now

[steep tide]

Is new ely worth getting ?

[naive briar]

please wait for beta

[zinc gorge]

why am i getting deja vu over this exact chat

[muted mauve]

because it happens every patch?

[desert lily]

[short knoll]

doesnt seem like new ely will be a big deal, unless she has locked tag
but it's spending and what not

highly doubt she will have locked tag, it means she has 4 tag

[shrewd socket]

so every patch is like:

"When beta?"

"Is new valk worth it?"

"Is new valk must pull?"

"Hsien: new valk seems like bait"

[muted mauve]

no mention of future tags in post

[short knoll]

i dont say that every patch tho

[shrewd socket]

you do

[glass nacelle]

At least have to go through lny patch to have new ar

[short knoll]

8.6 GoI with locked tag
8.7 new ring + 1 dkey that can support new ring

[desert lily]

[grand viper]

if you are the best horb fan, what rank is your horb ?

[grand viper]

you do say every new valk is bait though

[mild owl]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[short knoll]

i did say save for something else

[somber egret]

The bait is Songque Outfit and I'm chomping on that bait

[desert lily]

Thelema bait

[somber egret]

[mild owl]

how can it be bait if you dont even have to buy it

[somber egret]

Because I have to Spend precious crystals to I don't know which

[mild owl]

only 25k, maybe 22k

idk whether free multi counts but the carnival cards do

[gleaming imp]

I just realized, thelema had a big spending event skin and now songque has a big spending event skin, the besties are matching

[somber egret]

Free pull counts

[mild owl]

huge

[somber egret]

Yeah and Thel recently got Summer Oufit and Songque Outfit is a Summer one too

[gleaming imp]

Besties

[desert lily]

Lamp is next

Or does maid count?

[somber egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044143913360965654/1229130872431710248/thelema-songque.gif

[safe iron]

do we know what this is yet

[gleaming imp]

I don’t think so

[mild owl]

outfit but idt we know who

[gleaming imp]

It looks staff ish so could be HoH ely or badum

[naive briar]

looks Seele flowers

[mild owl]

its pyramid so bait regardless of who its for

[safe iron]

SIGHHHHHHHHHHHH

[somber egret]

Seele getting a divine key and new oufit

[naive briar]

wedding outfit?

make it Fu Hua and give a dkey

[desert lily]

Nope

Oop I'm late

[desert lily]

Yeah it does

[nova osprey]

Probs still pulling anyway, i pulled horb and bita pyramid, its great

[mild owl]

i pulled hohe pyramid and that skin isnt even that good so i cant talk

[gleaming imp]

Only pyramid skin ive pulled so far is for my snake queen

I think, I can’t think of any other ones

[nova osprey]

Which is free next patch

[desert lily]

I tried on Vita's but I didn't care to continue after 4 pulls

[mild owl]

suspicious to pull pyramid without committing but at least u didnt waste more xtals on that ugly skin

[nova osprey]

Dont think u can get outfit by 4th pull

[desert lily]

I was trying to get the equipment cards

[nova osprey]

Think chance only starts at 5th, with 0.5% chance

[atomic coral]

spend pulls to lucksack pulls

[desert lily]

[naive briar]

Vita skin is peak

[gleaming imp]

I wish we got vita plug suit as a skin

[naive briar]

now I need Vita in her white riding hood

[gleaming imp]

I wish we got full pants vita as a skin too but it’s in the same place they keep pardo with hoodie on skin

[naive briar]

or this Vita https://x.com/chibi0108/status/1945110206880637261?t=R_m9eWdmpnx4yNC5UVT-YQ&s=19

ちび🐦️ Chibipiyo (@chibi0108)

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X · Jul 15, 2025, 1:16 PM

[gleaming imp]

Vita is so tea

[naive briar]

what does that mean...

[sand falcon]

Looking at the 8.5 stuff and seeing we're getting another D-key box this mean I should finally get Star of eden from it and use this patches for Xy sword?

[gleaming imp]

It basically means the same thing as saying mother, mothering, serve etc

[naive briar]

ew

[gleaming imp]

It’s a compliment basically

[main goblet]

sure thing

[sand falcon]

Should I, this would mean I'm only missing Brick I think?

[naive briar]

Vita is under 17 btw (she claims)

[desert lily]

[gleaming imp]

It’s not as in literal mother, it more so means as in the lady served so hard it was mother, so mother is mothering

[atomic coral]

[naive briar]

I don't understand and don't want to, thanks. go back to gacha suffering

[desert lily]

Drya delulu

[main goblet]

brick will def take longer to be in reserve at least but yeah since its not in the 8.5 box then thats a solid plan 👍

[mild owl]

im too heterosexual to understand this and i'm not

[gleaming imp]

[sand falcon]

XY surely is the longest to be added with how long its not been obtainable

[zinc gorge]

guys all we need now is a mpe dkey and the full ely team can come true

[nova osprey]

Will never happend

[main goblet]

maybe but since its in the box u can pick it
if ur skeptical you can keep this box but get soe:ae from the 8.5 one

[nova osprey]

[desert lily]

Brick is likely after SoE: AE

[glass nacelle]

inflation atk

[sand falcon]

The 8.5 BP store not include any new D-keys?

[nova osprey]

Dont think we know yet

[solar surge]

https://tenor.com/view/dig-dug-gif-25536769

[main goblet]

no info yet

today is beta so gotta wait

[sand falcon]

Makes sense then

[main goblet]

or tomorrow?

[desert lily]

7T got added this patch

[main goblet]

its close enough tho so

[desert lily]

Friday

[main goblet]

oh today then

[desert lily]

Today, tomorrow
Depends on timezone

[main goblet]

mhm

[desert lily]

Tomorrow for NA
Today for others

[nova osprey]

In like 3 hours 10 min, i think, i dont memorize cn beta time

[main goblet]

[sand falcon]

I'll wait till later/tomorrow then

[desert lily]

Should be getting DKey video soon though

[sand falcon]

That's fair

Also about the S-Rank box that got either HoHe or HoTr as I don't have truth I should get her, no?

[main goblet]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[mild owl]

too long im gonna take a 6 minute nap

[still condor]

you probably wont use her anywhere but yeah you can get her for some ER crystals lol

[cinder cloak]

I need this Vita skin

[main goblet]

im getting hotr just bc old me had some beef with her

my trio will still be useless tho

[cinder cloak]

I am getting hotr because I have SSS hohe

[main goblet]

wow

[atomic coral]

I'm surprised we never got a free sa skin for vita

[still condor]

does HoTr ss1 even do anything i dont remember

[mild owl]

i think a hohe rank is more valuable to me than 620 er xtals

[main goblet]

i only have s2
maybe ill get ranks only if i feel like there will be a decent amount of hohe shill

[mild owl]

even if i build trio its gonna be unranked i.e. useless

[main goblet]

in the next patch

[still condor]

just get lucky, 620 ER crystals is at least 2 ely dupes

[cinder cloak]

I think my hotr is SS1

[main goblet]

i can also farm her ranks in pwo shop ig...

[cinder cloak]

[sand falcon]

I defo need it for ER and even then for the odd IMG bosses

[mild owl]

true

[shrewd socket]

i mean it's just a recolor

[still condor]

yeah thats why free

couldve even put it in bp like the A rank recolors

[main goblet]

youll need her gear tho

[shrewd socket]

Vita is S rank

just a recolor is pretty meh even for a free skin for a S rank

[still condor]

i mean if anyone is disappointed about a free skin just being a recolor thats on them lol

[desert lily]

I'm still deciding on that with that box
Probably wouldn't matter which one though

[atomic coral]

kinda like the free hoc skin for mpe

[upper vale]

i mean they could've done the same they did with ely hoc skin

[still condor]

so op

[rancid plank]

I’m getting HoTr because I already have HoHE

[main goblet]

yeah kinda

[shrewd socket]

that does change the design slightly

[sand falcon]

It not in the BP right?

[cinder cloak]

[main goblet]

it was in the old one

for a while

[still condor]

oh yeah they already recolored an evil ely, so evil vita wouldnt be the first time

[desert lily]

I don't have either
If I gotten HoHe from 8.0 I would have chosen HoTr

[cinder cloak]

[still condor]

the 60s cd is really funny

[cinder cloak]

Yes haha

[still condor]

cant even let her have a single crumb of damage outside ult/outburst

[muted mauve]

? ? ?

[main goblet]

sss without skin is funny
lovely to see sss hohe

[desert lily]

[muted mauve]

I swear Hoyo is messing with me

[main goblet]

i kinda cant decide btwn s2 thele or elf frags from spending shop tho..

[cinder cloak]

S2 Thelema

[main goblet]

no dkey info?

[still condor]

i wish it was sena instead of thele

[gleaming imp]

No info?

[still condor]

i dont have her yet

[main goblet]

damn 😔

[still condor]

at least theyre finally releasing SSS memeseeker

[main goblet]

[cinder cloak]

finally

[glass nacelle]

[cinder cloak]

[still condor]

surely theyll release both of those as outfits

[cinder cloak]

I really want synergy 3 of Thelema’s weapon

[glass nacelle]

bp trust

[cinder cloak]

for a second I thought Thelema was the only chained blades character

Then I saw that Teri also uses chained blades lol

[desert lily]

Almost looks like VBm's first outfit but on FDD

[zinc gorge]

wym thel’s the only chained blades user in the game

teri only uses cross

[desert lily]

Sleepy Teri has chain blades

[nova osprey]

Clearly u forgot hos who uses chain blades as one of her wps

[zinc gorge]

apparently chainblades and chained blades are two different things

[gleaming imp]

I only use spending event skin so I get whiplash seeing thelema base look since it’s half chopped

[cinder cloak]

I prefer her base look lol

[gleaming imp]

The upper half such a serve then it goes all down hill lower half with pratically nothing there

[cinder cloak]

lmao

[cinder cloak]

[zinc gorge]

right guys can we discuss about 8.5 contents now?

[gleaming imp]

Horb dkey info where?

[nova osprey]

If its pinned, yes, if its not, then no

[cinder cloak]

I need S2 horb

[zinc gorge]

welp

[cinder cloak]

I’m at S1

[zinc gorge]

lets wait then

[nova osprey]

I need ss, need her to be in pwo or supply shop or er shop

[zinc gorge]

why ppl talking abt horb dkey

im not seeing it in pins

[nova osprey]

Surely horb follows hoo route, added to er then added to pwo

[nova osprey]

There some stuff that implies she has one

Like there being a stig box for her

Or the fact that she is shown to be one of new elys teammate

[zinc gorge]

can we even talk abt it

without getting bonked i mean

[nova osprey]

We know she has one, we just dont have any details

[zinc gorge]

fair enough

but theres this one thing tho

[nova osprey]

There was suppose to be a dkey vid 25 min ago, but theres nothing

[zinc gorge]

if horb’s indeed getting a dkey

[zinc gorge]

then whats gonna happen to p1 phys team

[desert lily]

It's in the pins by Marisa

[zinc gorge]

like brick dps

[nova osprey]

Nothing will happend

[nova osprey]

She only have 1 boss, and its not even certain if she still top scores that one

[gleaming imp]

When was the last starless weather

[desert lily]

SK in 8.2

[nova osprey]

Starless is dead

[gleaming imp]

They still haven’t run starless wolf again for my snake queen to thrive again

[desert lily]

Mobius is dead

[nova osprey]

Nah bita already takes it because new cora

[zinc gorge]

shes still the only dps in the game that can actively and consistently apply stun so

[nova osprey]

U forgot mini dudu exist

[zinc gorge]

she still top scores unbalanced fish i think

[gleaming imp]

Snek only competition back then was HoO, vita was social distanced 6ft away from those two

[nova osprey]

[desert lily]

Mini Dudu does pretty well against Stun Fish

[zinc gorge]

not good enough to outscore brick tho

[nova osprey]

Nah bita will win

[gleaming imp]

I believe in my snake queen

[nova osprey]

Got buffed by new cora so

[cinder cloak]

Mobius in 2025?

[zinc gorge]

i wanna see how they’ll cook horb dkey

will she just go full dps and leave the p1 phys team in shambles

or will hoyo somehow retain her sp capabilities in p1 teams even with dkey

[nova osprey]

I mean, theres nothing stopping u from just using her old set with p1 teams

[zinc gorge]

if the latter’s true then we’re prob looking at the only p1 team to date that has 2 p2 upgrades

[desert lily]

Could use her still in P1 Phys

[gleaming imp]

Brick, hare, PE getting a buff?

[desert lily]

Maybe?

[cinder cloak]

BKE buff?

[gleaming imp]

I actually couldn’t think of any other phys dps besides brick and hare

[cinder cloak]

[desert lily]

PE got replaced by herself pretty much

[gleaming imp]

Wait this means p1 songque buff possibly

[nova osprey]

Pe is dead bro, stop coping

[gleaming imp]

In RL, PE goes crazy

[nova osprey]

Well no, because sq horb and rs will all be p2

[shrewd socket]

you mean in sinful?

[nova osprey]

It wont be p1 que

[zinc gorge]

or second dkey to senti

[nova osprey]

[zinc gorge]

that works as well

[gleaming imp]

Oh right

[nova osprey]

Rs goes even crazier

[cinder cloak]

[desert lily]

That's if HoRb has heavenly shift

[shrewd socket]

this is assuming dkey has shift

[zinc gorge]

oh right with horb dkey que p1 wont even be a thing anymore

unless well

prometheus

[nova osprey]

Just use old set smh

[desert lily]

Maybe with TA but RS replaced TA

[zinc gorge]

right lemme just teriT beachM newtB nyx pri my s0 horb rq

[nova osprey]

Ur horb is 0/4? L

[desert lily]

Mines 3/4

[zinc gorge]

never thought about investing into a proper p1 phys team

[shrewd socket]

then don't do

[zinc gorge]

i literally got senti + brick before getting horb btw

[gleaming imp]

TA does actual work really well, I actually placed Top 3 on a starless SK with s2 horb 4/4, SS TA 4/4, S2 HoS 1/4 with very cope gear and 2s Dudu elf, so RS could be replaced for TA

[cinder cloak]

I got two bricks in one 10-pull

[desert lily]

Also damn Hoyo messing with us on DKey video
Guess we waiting for a bit longer

[cinder cloak]

but I skipped Pericles lol

[nova osprey]

Why would u even bother tho

P1 que is dead, after machine gun died theres no reason to use her

[gleaming imp]

Curiosity

[desert lily]

Fish Skip is also gone for good

[cinder cloak]

[zinc gorge]

but que p1 is fun tho

[shrewd socket]

it's horrible to play

[zinc gorge]

3 fish

🐟

wer dkey vid

me wanna see

[desert lily]

Idek

[nova osprey]

Never happening, we wait open beta

[shrewd socket]

just sleep

[zinc gorge]

not even a post?

sadge

[cinder cloak]

wait for duet night abyss

[willow pumice]

Herrscher of Rebirth DLC
https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/68219314

• Stellar Key: Blossom of the Cleansed Sea
• New stigma set Harmonious Strike
• HoRB gains AR World Star
• Gains AR tags Resonance and Symbiosis (Can support World Star and GoI DPS)

Info

• Her Weapon Skills and Joint Weapon gain higher Crit Rate.
• When AR is activated, HoRB gains a new Ultimate [Cradle of Whispering Seas]
• When World Star is activated, during Stellar Outburst, HoRB stays in Life Binder form. Can trigger marks and consume teammate's marks. When ult(?) is used, Stellar Outburst will end.
• When GoInfinitude is activated, during Stellar Outburst, HoRB stays in Soul Shaper form.

How to Get

• As usual, available from Equipment Supply.
• Free stigma box in 8.5, and stigma can be forged.

[gleaming imp]

Finallly information

She’s WS let’s go

I can use her with my senawho, thelema, Hofin, vita,

And she’s a GoI DPS so I can go Horb Cora2 FWS/HoH

I think HoH should be better than fws on horb shill due to tc dmg for ely?

And I have chenxue to support her

[short knoll]

psy phys dps, seem niche

[gleaming imp]

I wonder how well she’ll do on songque and sushang shill?

Btw what’s that first? Horb new ely vita?

[nova osprey]

Watch she need lamp because phys

[gleaming imp]

Vita is able to support GoI horb?

[atomic coral]

random hitcount phase incoming

[gleaming imp]

If it’s horb lead then why sera aop and not chenxue?

[desert lily]

WS DPS

[nova osprey]

Horb is ws, not goi

[zinc gorge]

phys ws detected

[gleaming imp]

Oh

[zinc gorge]

finally my sera can be used in ws

[nova osprey]

U literally said it right here

[gleaming imp]

Wait why WS? And not LoA or GoI?

[nova osprey]

[gleaming imp]

I thought she was support

[nova osprey]

Ws best ring

[zinc gorge]

i dont have to cope with ds/bunny’s horrific ar regen anymore

[rancid plank]

Lmao WS return. So I couldn’t even use Horb even if I rolled her

[zinc gorge]

lesgo

[desert lily]

Literally says she gains WS AR

[rancid plank]

Tragic

[zinc gorge]

welp i have like 18k rn

[atomic coral]

she can support GoI but main ring is WS

[short knoll]

valk with new dkey is usually older type

[zinc gorge]

hopefully thats enough to get ely + dk + cora full gears

[desert lily]

Oooo love that scythe design

[gleaming imp]

Chat what's looking to be horb bis teammates as WS?

[nova osprey]

Cora probs wont rerun in the spend event duration tho

[desert lily]

Vita and Vamp

Lamp*

[nova osprey]

Lamp and idk who else

[gleaming imp]

Not lamp

[desert lily]

Lamp has Crit rate for WS

[nova osprey]

All ws so far been elem

[zinc gorge]

why am i seeing ely

[nova osprey]

Because new ely have resonance tag too

[desert lily]

HoRb can support GoI

[gleaming imp]

I'll just like run senawho vita or senawho thelema or something

[nova osprey]

She can support horb

[nova osprey]

Sena not very good as a ws support

[zinc gorge]

i know that but like why’s she in the recommended team

[short knoll]

guess that is why new ely can support WS, need free horb for new player tho

[nova osprey]

U cant afk support with sena on ws

[zinc gorge]

and sena only has 3 triggers

[desert lily]

No idea

[glass nacelle]

always 100% crit

[gleaming imp]

Oh then I'll just do vita hofin or vita thelema or vita badum then

[zinc gorge]

maybe bis?

[desert lily]

Wait really?

[zinc gorge]

extra cr gets converted to more cdmg tho

[atomic coral]

yeah that's horb's thing

[desert lily]

Interesting

[rancid plank]

Man tho it’s really annoying how mihoyo has been like “start in 8.1 or earlier scrubs” for 4 patches straight now

[desert lily]

So no Lamp?

[shrewd socket]

new set probably has elemental buffs as well

hence why she can be use with HLE

[glass nacelle]

it depends on her new equipment

[nova osprey]

Horb sacrifice some cdmg for always 100% cr, but if u have some cr already then it sacrifice less cdmg

[desert lily]

Ah

[zinc gorge]

no i meant thats in her base kit already

[desert lily]

At least with HoRb you don't have to go full attack affixes

[zinc gorge]

that whole part of her kit is called crit conversion (by moriso) (and im pretty sure it goes both ways)

[glass nacelle]

i mean if her gear has that much crd then convert is useless

[nova osprey]

Wdym, u still get full atk

[shrewd socket]

who said you don't?

[nova osprey]

[desert lily]

No Crit DMG?

[muted mauve]

why was it posted at 45

[nova osprey]

U can have it, but im going full atk like always

[gleaming imp]

I never got cdmg for my physical dps only atk

[somber egret]

Forgor

[gleaming imp]

I have a question does songque support WS?

[nova osprey]

Nope

[atomic coral]

you can get 1-2 lines of crit dmg if you want

[somber egret]

No

[glass nacelle]

jds need crd bcs her because herself doesn't have much crd

[desert lily]

Not necessary I'm guessing

[gleaming imp]

So they released her with only one ring available

[shrewd socket]

2

[somber egret]

Heavenly Shift

[desert lily]

JDS supports LoA and WoD

[atomic coral]

not really, full atk still works just fine

[desert lily]

Alright

[atomic coral]

if you get a good crit dmg roll, keep it

[glass nacelle]

Shi||f||t

[nova osprey]

Oh boy i just relized im gonna need a lot of locks for next patch

[desert lily]

BiS in Badum SD bosses

[nova osprey]

[zinc gorge]

jds dps cant guarantee crit without sera (p2) or horb (p1) btw

[desert lily]

So HoRb only has Domain Resonance and Symbiosis
Same amount of tags as HoFi

[muted mauve]

Sera on WS?

[zinc gorge]

lots of que the ice dps moments already

[desert lily]

No idea on that also lol

[zinc gorge]

i mean sera has ar regen for ws as well

[atomic coral]

songque aop in a ditch

[desert lily]

I guess she has better Phys buffs?

[nova osprey]

Crit rate maybe

[shrewd socket]

is Sera crit conversion WoD only?

[glass nacelle]

is it relevant

[desert lily]

Thought that too

[zinc gorge]

it used to

until jds dps herself became irrelevant that is

[glass nacelle]

her affix always is 3 atk 3 crd or 4 2

[desert lily]

JDS more used in LoA

[zinc gorge]

because ultra low cdmg because of that crit conversion sacrificing cdmg for fnuy yellow numbers

[desert lily]

Ok Sera has something for WS but it's minor-

[zinc gorge]

regen equals one whole stellar drain tho

thats huge

especially when ws is bita-able