🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[gleaming imp]

I predict a songque ascension supply

Since last patch has lamp

[wise briar]

Elysia is not coming anytime soon

[main goblet]

for the most part it doesnt matter because its reruns

[wise briar]

I MEAN

[still condor]

Yeah she won't be til Oct 24th for us

[main goblet]

the important stuff are always in the first weeks

[still condor]

Long time away

[wise briar]

53 DAYS?

[gleaming imp]

Lots of time to save up crystals

[still condor]

Yes since patches are 8-9 weeks now

[wise briar]

I wonder how much pulls ill get

[gleaming imp]

That's like 18k+ crystals bare minimum

[wise briar]

Im new

[still condor]

This patch only started like a week ago, so there's still about 8 left

[main goblet]

a lot, ull get a lot

as long as you do story and stuff

[gleaming imp]

Oh then 16k crystals bare minimum

[wise briar]

Ok

Getting duplicates of characters here isnt rlly worth it from what im seeing?

[main goblet]

no for gacha valks

aside from whales and nirv players (sometimes)

[gleaming imp]

No, f2p shouldn't aim or go for ranks, f2p also shouldn't go for AOPs

[main goblet]

a ranks yes for the ones u use, get the ranks its free
for others u wanna farm them for dorm levels

[wise briar]

Who said i was gonna🥹 also whats AOP’s

[still condor]

Astral ops

[wise briar]

Oh

[main goblet]

astra op
theyre used with p2 valks

[wise briar]

I idnt know they were called aops

[gleaming imp]

Astral ops, it's the new elf, Dreamseeker is given for free at SS and is more than enough

[still condor]

When SSS

[gleaming imp]

When Leylah drops probably

[wise briar]

Dream sseekeer? S thst the maain chaar of pt2

[main goblet]

yes

[gleaming imp]

Yes

[wise briar]

I really hope coralie will be a bis support for new elysia

[gleaming imp]

She provides breach for new Ely so she has that going for her

[wise briar]

Whats breach

Also i saw ithers saying she might so js wait

[still condor]

Breach is elemental resistance reduction

[gleaming imp]

Is this melee or fire or lighting?

Is it fov or helia?

[mossy escarp]

delete qua

[still condor]

That valrahal

[gleaming imp]

Oh it's qua

[still condor]

So none of the above

[gleaming imp]

So sparkle then

Wait is it teriteri?

[still condor]

Both

[gleaming imp]

Oh right because it's qua duo

At least I have cora2 now to Brute force qua

[main goblet]

istg

[still condor]

How does cora 2 brute force qua

[wise briar]

Done with the abyss

Yall question

[gleaming imp]

She can't? Can't even Brute force, lost on her own shill on my bracket to trio, genuinely what does she do

[still condor]

She doesn't do anything special on qua that other valks don't do

[main goblet]

afaik fdd doesnt bruteforce in the same sense as vita

[gleaming imp]

[main goblet]

but if shes ur strongest valk then go ahead

[wise briar]

Yall is red lotus abyss hard

[still condor]

Also losing to trio is just a skill issue

[main goblet]

no

[mild owl]

drya has s2 vita

[still condor]

Not really, but as a newbie it can be

[wise briar]

Ok thnx

[gleaming imp]

Proud of my trio for slaying coralies

[main goblet]

if q mani rl, very easy
if superstring (lvl 81+) rl then its fine and very manageable

[wise briar]

Ive been soloing abyss with a solo coralie can u do that in red lotus

[mild owl]

yeah idk my explanation is that they were all tanking to not promo

[still condor]

No

[main goblet]

in q mani anything clears

[wise briar]

Fdd

[mild owl]

that bracket was really slack

[wise briar]

I dont have anyone else

I only have fdd aagghh

[main goblet]

as i said in q mani anything clears

[still condor]

It should work in manifold, but idk how long it takes to hit level 81 for the harder abyss ranks

[main goblet]

it only starts to be a concern when you reach superstring rl because knowing the boss mechanic, having a proper team and trying more than once is normal

[umbral spoke]

fdd is a good solo valk to top it off. can just 3 stack her with her a rank counterpart and it's such a good starter team

[main goblet]

which when you reach youll have a good team for it so dw

[wise briar]

Oh @still condor said you cant so i was-

[wise briar]

What does her counter part do for fdd

[main goblet]

pretty sure they meant superstring rl

[wise briar]

Whats that

[still condor]

Yeah I did, it's level 81 abyss

[main goblet]

thats one of the abyss ranks than youll unlock when you reach lvl 81+

[wise briar]

Oh theres different abyss for different lvl groups i see

[main goblet]

aka one of the difficulties in end game

[umbral spoke]

provides a bunch of total dmg multiplier buffs and activates part of this buff.

[wise briar]

Yall is it alr to lvl up hov and A rank coralie i need it for a quest, and i dont wanna waste mats so i wanna use my mats wisely? Idk

[main goblet]

for q mani it is based on your level yes
for superstring (that will replace q mani when you level up) its based on a trophies and rank system between you and a random selection of people

[umbral spoke]

do note the second bullet point. this i why wou'd probably want to put a rank helia (vbs) as well into the team

[main goblet]

level a rank coralie

[wise briar]

I need 1 more

[main goblet]

whats the quest btw?

[wise briar]

Who else can i use in the team?

[main goblet]

and whats the level req?

[umbral spoke]

valkyrie boltstorm

a rank helia, like i said

[wise briar]

40

[umbral spoke]

if you got someone else with astral ring, they work too. you preferably want 3 rite of oblivion valks for fdd's full potential

[main goblet]

hmm i guess as long as you dont go beyond lv 50 its fine

for the characters that youll bench later

[feral epoch]

#👶beginner-help

[wise briar]

I on,y have 2 characters with those and it both coralie

[umbral spoke]

bonono is right, we should move this to #👶beginner-help

bro

so what? people like me will see the help channel and respond later

[glass nacelle]

[desert lily]

Don't tell me

[glass nacelle]

+14D now

[desert lily]

Is there a Teri boss? 😭

Why

[feral epoch]

why not

[nova osprey]

Gonna have to use my wpless teri again

[desert lily]

PAWS brute force again

[glass nacelle]

pig is tanky

[plucky cradle]

just git gud

[glass nacelle]

[muted mauve]

combat event incoming

[glass nacelle]

nice emblem

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qDanzDEy8

s0 needs 2 SO to clear kek

[willow pumice]

no way ER update in 2025

[glass nacelle]

💀

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

ye SN buff

finally

[plucky cradle]

[gleaming imp]

[rain isle]

confusion

[willow pumice]

In v8.4 there's a small event mode Star-Tempering Clash that has improved ER skills. One of the valks in this mode is Seele Stygian Nymph. SN skills from the event mode will be permanently added to ER (like a buff) in version 8.5
*Seele is a character from the hit game Honkai Star Rail and vintage game Honkai Impact 3rd

[glass nacelle]

Can someone give me her skill in beta

[willow pumice]

lol is it just tdm +70% ?

[feral epoch]

why only in er

[shrewd socket]

just +70% tdm isn't giving her any use in abyss

[glass nacelle]

They don't show her number

[grand viper]

holy SN buff for ER ??

[glass nacelle]

Why s0 spork is terrible

[main goblet]

someone with a very very high copium will say that this is an indicator that sn will get another buff... like a dkey.... /j /j

[steep axle]

why sn

why not like any other er valks whatever

[main goblet]

that sn buff is extremely random

does she struggle a ton in er or smth??????

stuff a buff is weird...

[steep axle]

pardo struggles more rn

she failed to clear 2.0 2 patches ago

[civic dock]

As someone who hasnt been keeping up with honky, why is ely getting a new battlesuit?

[nova osprey]

Because the devs said shes getting one

They can just do a random event and boom some old dead char gets a new suit

[civic dock]

Whoa so hoyo had that technology all along

[tired cliff]

they can't let go of ely probably

[main goblet]

hoyo always do what they want ™

also very strong bait

[steep axle]

money

cyrene is close to her release on hsr

they gather up cyrene fans to hi3 while they are at it

[civic dock]

Cant be true honky barely makes enough money to keep the servers up

[steep axle]

also we lowkey needed another ice dps

[steep axle]

its more abt players

i see alot of cyrene fans start hi3 these days so ig ely is working

[smoky lintel]

Hi3 is still popular in China this is far from the truth lol

[rain isle]

OMAIGOTO SEEWE BUFFS

[alpine leaf]

is new elysia worth it if I've already got thelema, ss dkey hohe and every other sd char?

[smoky lintel]

We don't have any info about her kit or how strong she is yet but expect her to be strong since she's a CN Anni valk

So probably yes

For an definit answer wait until she's live in CN

[alpine leaf]

was hoping for seele next patch because my physical team is cooked, I'll wait and see how good she is then, thank you

[smoky lintel]

There's still some copium for a HoRb dkey so keep coping

We should know whether 8.5 has a dkey or not in a few days

[desert lily]

We'll learn from V2

[main goblet]

its also worth noting that she may have her own niche mechanics to offer and that the new bosses will be tailored made for her even if you have ice or sd valks
she also got goi too when that's relevant

[desert lily]

Likely gonna have her own Extreme Weather Boss

[main goblet]

maybe

[gleaming imp]

I just hope my hoh can retain on her weathers/shill since I'm skipping

[smoky lintel]

Ainoway your skipping new Ely

[main goblet]

wow you're skipping part 1 nostalgia??1??1??1!?1!1

[mild owl]

pulled fdd skipping ely

where is the drya we knew

[smoky lintel]

This

[main goblet]

this must be a dream

[gleaming imp]

Skipping to save up for ascension supply in the future

[smoky lintel]

Pulling when valk is already dead that sounds more like drya

[gleaming imp]

That's part of the 550 pulls I'm saving up for

[gleaming imp]

I'll have you know my hoh and hofin are well alive despite having adv released

[smoky lintel]

They've gotten 3 weathers in the past 3 patches

I wouldn't call that alive

[shrewd socket]

• an SD or/and an ice one

[gleaming imp]

Look what my hofin got me last abyss on global on Coralie shill

Trio > Coralie real

[desert lily]

Probably all three

[smoky lintel]

RL isn't even a measurement I got +100 on hellmaru with paws DPS

[gleaming imp]

[smoky lintel]

You can pretty much play anything and as long as it's decent get a good placement

[desert lily]

I thought this was Nirv
Unless you promoted into Nirv after that one

[smoky lintel]

That was my nirv promo

+100 in nirv would've been crazy

[desert lily]

Lol

[gleaming imp]

But yeah waiting for future new Ely ascension supply, it's why I pulled FDD since she'll provide breach for my future Ely

[shrewd socket]

drya claims that ascension is better bc "you get SS right away" just for him to stay in RL

[smoky lintel]

Could've pulled fdd ascension smh

[desert lily]

Hellmaru shall at least be better when I brute force with PAWS

[mild owl]

she is chopped and her face card got declined so no ss

[smoky lintel]

You have a good team you should be fine

[gleaming imp]

It will since goal is RL retain

[mild owl]

goal is myriad t50

[shrewd socket]

^

[main goblet]

i thought ranks are just for nirv

[mild owl]

when u get there no one can complain about ur pulls

[shrewd socket]

even S0 can retain RL

[gleaming imp]

Real, also FDD was 27k to pull normally rather than spending 150 pulls for SS FDD since I only want her breach

[desert lily]

Just between FWS or PS for the 3rd member

[smoky lintel]

I'll test a bit DW

Should be in RL so I can make a ref

[desert lily]

Alright

[glass nacelle]

yes

her signets are terrible

[main goblet]

[steep axle]

its ult spam

and ult has no time stop

[glass nacelle]

That’s not the problem. The problem is that scale is too low

[versed garden]

bunker time

end of the world

[glass nacelle]

[nova osprey]

Nah ur cooked, ice weather with sd boss

[magic gust]

HoHum with Sena and Lantern-sama supports

I’ll skip ’er too, time to pull to SSS Chenxue

[main goblet]

where thele

[gleaming imp]

Surely SS3 hoh and ss thelema will be enough

[magic gust]

skipped her

[gleaming imp]

For third Valk I got senawho and s2 vita

[main goblet]

🧱

it is up to you if you wanna get or not
but obv you'll be facing a lot of competition with all the people that will be pulling new ely + whatever else that she'll be offering

[magic gust]

I mean… I’m already competting with all Helia-Vita owners in new Coralie teams with my HoFin + old Coralie how bad can it get

waifu over meta

[nova osprey]

Probs like -400 score because cant gather shards

[magic gust]

-# ||||

[main goblet]

at least you have decent supports for fdd but its about new ely dps + if she got any gimmicks that will make her a stronger dps

[steep axle]

most er valks have tht

its the reason i dont use a ranks or old s ranks in er anymore

one needs a new er valk every few years

[frozen cobalt]

Nah

Im using SI for almost 2y and she still doing good

Some how griseo can still keep it up

Like very good

[glass nacelle]

why kebin in thumbnail

[desert lily]

[muted mauve]

next month will be 100%⬆️

[frozen cobalt]

Can elysia save hi3 revenue

[glass nacelle]

no

[frozen cobalt]

The game is like a walking machine at this point

[glass nacelle]

lower than lamp banner + luna outfit trust

[frozen cobalt]

But they can not do an EoS

[arctic skiff]

January 2024 - 2489W
February 2024 - 4945W (Senadina)
March 2024 - 2352W
April 2024 - 2238W
May 2024 - 3411W (Lantern)
June 2024 - 1932W (Songque)
July 2024 - 1601W
August 2024 - 1708W (sleepy Teri)
September 2024 - 2911W (Vita + Kiana's DK)
October 2024 - 1946W (31st October — start of collab)
November 2024 - 2432W (Sparkle)
December 2024 - 1655W (Durandal)
January 2025 - 1886W (Kiana + Elysia's DK)
February 2025 - 1842W
March 2025 - 1647W (Sushang)
April 2025 - 1142W
May 2025 - 1362W (29th May — start of Helia's banner)
June 2025 - 1125W (Helia)
July 2025 - 1357W (24th July — start of Coralie's banner)
August 2025 - 1097W

[glass nacelle]

lantern peak

[frozen cobalt]

Lantern is actually peak?

[glass nacelle]

include luna outfit

[frozen cobalt]

Well i mean sena and the gang does make some revenue

[magic gust]

I guess people thought Lantern would have been stronger based on how she was portrayed in the story also she’s just incredibly cool

[frozen cobalt]

Plot twist they were just whaling for luna outfit

[magic gust]

ngl, it’s pretty hard to outplay Helia-Vita with Kiana-Coralie on Coralie and everyone and their cat seems to have that

[frozen cobalt]

Lantern isnt spending patch either

[magic gust]

well, except me and my cat

[mild owl]

no your cat has paws vita

[glass nacelle]

sales suddenly increased after lantern vs perception

[frozen cobalt]

No fucking way

[magic gust]

that boss fight was so good

[gleaming imp]

Lamp a one hit wonder

[frozen cobalt]

Lantern vs perception is actually peak?

Of part 2

[magic gust]

chapter 3 was an emotional rollercoaster

[frozen cobalt]

Although the chapter was too long back then

But i still miss the 3 act chapter

[main goblet]

bangar boss, banger chapter

[muted mauve]

Best chapter of part 2 by a mile

[final locust]

what does the W signify?

[muted mauve]

10 000

[final locust]

dem

34,110,000 for lamp

[copper shale]

万=wan=w

lamp peak

[final locust]

wonder how much that is in USD

ill look

[copper shale]

its worth more now in usd cuz usd has been devalued since then

[final locust]

3,489,248.34

[final locust]

ya

[gleaming imp]

I didn't know lamp had movement like that

[final locust]

why and how did lamp make more than vita

this feels so backwards i didnt know CN liked lamp like that 😭

[gleaming imp]

I'm surprised lamp did so well despite being well lamp

[muted mauve]

Playerbase was bigger at the time

[vale granite]

Yes, but why did it suddenly drop

Ass gameplay?

Cuz iirc JDS flopped quite hard in comparison

[limber egret]

Many things

[muted mauve]

Bad early reception of part 2 + other external factors like new game releases

[glass nacelle]

Spork in 2025

[copper shale]

where teri

[final locust]

this bitch is running

why are they shilling qua again

[glass nacelle]

Fund me

[final locust]

i thought we left that in 2024 where it belongs

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

mr. kurowhel you fund me instead

[vale granite]

The Abyss schedule of this patch is very "fun"

[glass nacelle]

S0 spork is terrible

[final locust]

what is it for week 6 onward

[copper shale]

say something we dont know

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

[vale granite]

After HoD it's Hellmaru -> Valrahal

[final locust]

i can't wait for 8.5
the abyss schedule will just be
"ice" "freeze" "ranged" "SD" "bloodthirsty" "shadow"

no stupid ass qua and fire tank

whoever runs the abyss schedule at HI3 should be fired

[glass nacelle]

It should be "ignite" and a lot of cora shill

[final locust]

yeah sure add some "ignite" and "fire" to it

but NOT FIRE TANK

[vale granite]

We need to make CN start complaining

[final locust]

they're all whels it doesn't affect them like it does us

[vale granite]

True

[final locust]

they don't need it to change cuz they have every p2 valk and all asops SS+

maybe if sea complains enough...

just maybe.. possibly.. perhaps

[vale granite]

[copper shale]

thats hella overestimating sea

[final locust]

let me cope

[gleaming imp]

I think I'll be winning kind of

[copper shale]

bro u say anything is win for u

[solar surge]

revenue went up
he's a hero

[final locust]

you will NOT be winning broski

[copper shale]

u win with all ur imaginary nostalgia

that just not there

[steep axle]

you need to get cn to complain

hell even they failed on sparkle free

[final locust]

they won't because they have every p2 valk 4/4

it's the requirement to even play at that level dist with actually active playerbase

[gleaming imp]

If my nostalgia imaginary then why does nostalgia always win with the recent events being focused on p1

[copper shale]

delulu

[final locust]

your nostalgia is "winning" until new ely needs FWS/PAWS then ur nostalgia is fucked beyond belief

[steep axle]

ely ely badum real

[vale granite]

Isn't FWS in the nostalgia

[shrewd socket]

PAWS FDD*

[steep axle]

you can always do ely dudu ok no i do not want to see cora mentioned

[final locust]

yeah but he didnt pull FWS

[gleaming imp]

I already have FDD and FWS

[vale granite]

Anyway, Drya will win if the BiS is FDD FWS/HoHE/dkey

[steep axle]

id rather use a rank cora than ever use cora2

[final locust]

wtf

maybe drya was playing the long game after all

[gleaming imp]

I got lucky on half off multi after getting vita and dupe in same multi and got badum on her half off multi

[final locust]

did you get badum weapon

[steep axle]

pulling cora2 🙄 🙄 🙄

[shrewd socket]

he won't win bc they aren't P1 "nostalgia"

[vale granite]

ig FDD isn't

But others?

[gleaming imp]

Yes

[shrewd socket]

PAWS

[final locust]

PAWS yeah

[vale granite]

Others I've mentioned I mean

[gleaming imp]

I don't think paws will be needed for my ely

[steep axle]

hear me out ely uses dudu as support

[final locust]

there's probably going to be at least 1 boss that favors PAWS over other options

[gleaming imp]

I got fws and fdd and hoh dkey, at worst me missing PS will be bad probably

[vale granite]

Let's get you back to bed

[shrewd socket]

Flawless is slow

[final locust]

dudu the potential man of p2

praised at release but she is so fucking ass

[vale granite]

But Ice demej
It could be good on Ice cycles

[gleaming imp]

Just use trio

[steep axle]

she was used before sushang became pure bl*ed

[shrewd socket]

and i doubt she lacks something to justify FWS

[vale granite]

She's not Potential Man if she doesn't have potential

The real Potential Man is HoHE

[final locust]

FWS has true dmg to SD enemy HP bars

she will without a doubt be used for at least SD weather

[vale granite]

Until we get a thicc shield cycle ig

[steep axle]

ely ely badum

[final locust]

not happening

[steep axle]

ill see you next week when ely ely badum has like 4 bosses

[shrewd socket]

it's LWE FDD flex

[final locust]

yup

FDD is very likely gonna be necessary

the only breach support in GoI
what can you do

[steep axle]

im deaf to anything that includes cora

id rather use vita and have lack of sp

[shrewd socket]

just pull her it's not the end of world

[glass nacelle]

dudu's problem is that she gives too much ele but not much other multipliers

[steep axle]

it is 🙄

[final locust]

she's also slow and clunky as fuck

[steep axle]

dudu is fun to play as dps

[final locust]

maybe if you're a masochist

[steep axle]

and i think HoDom will return again

[vale granite]

Yes

[final locust]

HoD is rerunning soon

[steep axle]

img weathers 🤤

[shrewd socket]

FDD is playable unlike RS

[final locust]

it's not img weather

[steep axle]

phy

[final locust]

FDD's gameplay is actually quite smooth although there's basically no variation to her rotations

[vale granite]

The variation is for ranked players

[shrewd socket]

the variation is for fps players

[steep axle]

i got 14th place on a3 yesterday does that count as smth

[vale granite]

That too

[vale granite]

Wtf

[glass nacelle]

why does it appear when i search hi3

[steep axle]

what is that

[glass nacelle]

new gacha animation (it's removed in beta)

[steep axle]

oh is it the HoT beta one

[final locust]

also FDD suffers from RoO syndrome

i guess RoO main carry gimmick is having some special move that requires interaction at the beginning of SO and then just normal glorified burst mode for the rest of it

vita should've been a burst mode character

willing to die on this hill

[shrewd socket]

so should PAWS then

[final locust]

no she just does ultimate damage
and spams her ult

vita's burst actually empowers her and gives her different moves
not burst mode tho

[shrewd socket]

she's literally DA pro max

[final locust]

is DA burst mode?

[shrewd socket]

im assuming she is

[final locust]

well DA has that move where she empowers herself and puts on the armor

[final locust]

she's not

lmao that's crazy

burst mode tag is useless they don't use it anymore

last time they used it was for HoHE

[glass nacelle]

it's wod now

[final locust]

THE glorified burst mode ring

[shrewd socket]

where sp drain tho

[vale granite]

SP drain is not necessary to qualify for Burst mode tho

[final locust]

i mean hohe had burst mode

and HoS did

[vale granite]

HoS, HoHE

[final locust]

they just don't use the tag for whatever reason lmfao

[vale granite]

DW should've been Burst mode

[gleaming imp]

She's not?

[final locust]

even tho JDS, LP, SImp, DW, MPS, HoTr, VQ, etc. could have had it and it would fit perfectly

[shrewd socket]

s u m m o n e d e n t i t y

[gleaming imp]

They should make a summoned entity focused AR to make a p2 snek

[vale granite]

I don't think LP qualifies

SImp as well

Thele maybe

[final locust]

why not

do burst, get empowered, when burst ends you're back to weak form

[vale granite]

Cuz no significant gameplay changes outside of the punch sequence

[final locust]

[shrewd socket]

summons star traveler

[final locust]

summoning starcrosser and changing her entire attack sequence doesn't qualify???

[shrewd socket]

could have make her summoned entity

[vale granite]

It's only in the beginning of the SO

Not the entire duration

[final locust]

no

her burst itself
her ultimate

summons starcrosser
to change her entire attack sequence
and gives her a new ulti

[vale granite]

Ah, you meant transforming

Well, by that logic doing her actual ult should stop it

Would make sense actually

[vale granite]

And the transformation should cost SP

Same with HoTr, her transformation is free and doesn't stop after ulting

VQ hard no

It's just a flashy A-rank ult

JDS 100% agree

[fresh latch]

i like elysias animations entirely

so pretty

[gleaming imp]

I wish IO was burst mode

[vale granite]

HoHE's?

[fresh latch]

yes

[vale granite]

She isn't?

[fresh latch]

i want to get her so bad but im waiting for her to be farmable :((

[vale granite]

ig the gameplay changes are not significant enough

[gleaming imp]

I agree, hoh animations are such a serve, the directors said take five and elysia heard change lives

[fresh latch]

im wondering what elysia’s new forms animations will look like

[fresh latch]

LMAO

[gleaming imp]

Unfortunately no, I wish she was for kevin2

[fresh latch]

why do i see videos about elysias new form being in beta.. im scared to click on it

[gleaming imp]

There is no footage of elysia in ba sing se, we have to wait til like 3 more days for beta gameplay I think

[fresh latch]

ohh ok

[final locust]

no

[fresh latch]

im so excited to see it though

[final locust]

bro 😭

some valks have burst mode when others deserve it more

like JDS should absolutely have the tag
so should SImp

[vale granite]

If you're gonna bring up WC she doesn't count

Too oldge

[final locust]

if SN, nyx and AKA can have it then JDS and SImp should have it

[vale granite]

SN is literally 2 valks in 1

[final locust]

so is HoRb but she doesn't have burst mode

[vale granite]

Nyx has significant changes + a finisher too

[final locust]

HoTr should 100% have it

[vale granite]

I'd rather argue that SN shouldn't have Burst mode

[gleaming imp]

I love jds ar animation, literally a Valk hasn't served as hard as that one, like mother was mothering like rent was due

[final locust]

and out of P2 valks JDS and SImp should have it

IO should have it as well

[vale granite]

Anyway, we have our own understandings of what Burst mode should be and they clearly are different

[final locust]

burst mode should be
do ultimate, get powered up, using ultimate ends the mode

SImp and JDS check those boxes

[mild owl]

so true

and shes the f2p queen

[vale granite]

Then pre-Brick HoS doesn't qualify

Cuz no finisher

[final locust]

yeah she really doesn't

[vale granite]

Wtf

[final locust]

other burst mode valks either drain SP to end the mode or can end it manually

HoS does neither

[vale granite]

Where is SImp's finisher

Oh, you meant the sleep mode?

Ainnoway

[final locust]

work done in dreams

[vale granite]

No finisher

[final locust]

that's why she should get a dkey to finish it

half the burst valks shouldn't even be burst valks

BKE gets a pass because she got a dkey to enable her to finish burst mode

[solar surge]

does anyone even use Burst Mode anymore?
Last one I can recall was Senti

[vale granite]

HoHE is the last Burst mode valk

[desert lily]

The only AR Valk to have it too

[gleaming imp]

They should continue that trend and make new Ely burst mode

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/kitasan-black-kitasan-umamusume-キタサンブラック-北部玄駒-gif-1893729027048168301

[steep axle]

GoI valk but its like AKA ult where sp is spent by second

[muted mauve]

Why is agony 3 nearing 500D on Huawei

[desert lily]

Ago3 close to NA/EU RL

[abstract night]

And Hare

I dont agree with sci tho

[final locust]

how people can disagree with simp having burst mode tag is beyond me

[glass nacelle]

【嗨～我是爱莉希雅，爱的化身哦～-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/2FYuFjn

[abstract night]

I mean...... i feel like sci's ultimate thing is more like aponias offield attacks

[final locust]

except it's attached to an ult and not a WA

[abstract night]

I mean

Sure...but like

Is that majority of her dmg?

[muted mauve]

Imagine Cora > Lantern

[glass nacelle]

Need high hitcount

Sus cora spork
Badum que dudu/helia

[vale granite]

Sure as shit not Lantern

[muted mauve]

999999 coin reward

[hard meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-dollars-haha-money-gif-16679435

[rain isle]

[cinder cloak]

[unique scroll]

Wtf

[still vine]

[copper shale]

【那一年我的白夜还在使用双狼，我的辅助还是山吹圣女-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/EeKFelC

chasing fart

wat year is this

[glass nacelle]

Paws rerun

[rancid plank]

Paws is rerunning after FDD banner ends?

[copper shale]

its a common pattern for the valk after their first release to then rerun the following patch for p2

only outlier is songque so far

[rancid plank]

meanwhile reign Solaris over here rerunning every patch

Probably for the best it’s not Badum so I don’t have to fight off the urge to backpull

[willow pumice]

JD ascension

[glass nacelle]

sena still hasn't adv banner

[abstract night]

Bp

[mild owl]

should have waited to fix fish skip until after her adv

[smoky lintel]

honestly that would've been so hilarious

[willow pumice]

https://marisaimpact.com/calendar84

[rancid plank]

I assume we still don’t know anything about a hypothetical 8.5 dkey?

[smoky lintel]

nope, should know more once v2 drops

should be the 4th

[feral epoch]

no

5th

[rancid plank]

Cool, ty

[smoky lintel]

ah right 4th is dev vid yeah ?

[feral epoch]

yes, should be just that. and after that a slight post of the new character skills and banners

[desert lily]

Different day for NA though

Tomorrow or Thursday

Or well Thursday

[random hill]

new ely better have visuals that are just as good if not better than hohe's

[unique swallow]

That's kinda subjective

[random hill]

i mean like the amount of detail and how her ult and finisher are super cinematic

[unique swallow]

The dkey finisher is mid it just fades to white

[random hill]

i mean the og

the dkey is eh

[naive briar]

Ely stigma had the best visuals until her dkey said no

[steep axle]

i never liked the i think T one

[ember locust]

Why I'm always freaking right

💀

I thought that was going to happen

Oh well

Didn't think it would happen before next patch though

[twin dune]

Elysia animations when

[nova osprey]

2-3days later

[twin dune]

Ty noodles

[edgy drift]

it would almost make you believe they go in order

but no that can't be right, must be a wild theory

I have another wild one you won't believe, next patch is SCI

[muted mauve]

didn't they go straight to Thelema instead of having Sena?

[edgy drift]

they skipped Sena ye, there was 1 patch without anything

LV, FoV, blank, Thelema, Lantern, Sonk

and they'll most likely stick with the 8 patches delay between release and adv now

[slim lion]

There was also horb if you wanna add it

[gleaming imp]

Ascension supply on top

Too bad I can't afford it

[steady granite]

wife dead twice, ain't no way

[muted mauve]

I find it funny (read: sad) how poorly Sena's advertisement aged.

[steep axle]

i remember there being advertisements

but ig that was for p2 in general

[glass nacelle]

Can they stop run this shit

[rain isle]

[ember locust]

[willow pumice]

No way

[shrewd socket]

watch it be Vita

[ember locust]

Honestly it was just a matter of time before Songque's ASC would happen, I didn't think it would be that fast though

[edgy drift]

exactly 8 patches after release

[ember locust]

Like

We got Lantern's ASC right before

[edgy drift]

yeah, and guess who released right after lantern

lantern was also right after Thel

[ember locust]

Yes ofc, just I thought they would make most of her potential skin release (that we could guess from the outfit teasing) to release her ASC

[edgy drift]

they can do both

scheduled banner + extra one on outfit if it's a pyramid one

[ember locust]

Indeed. Thing is normally if ASC = no banner rerun... Guess they could make her ASC rerun right after

[edgy drift]

ye

[steep axle]

i want to pull songque

she looks pretty

[edgy drift]

ADVs always had 2-3 runs, and sometimes an extra with an outfit, ASC is likely to follow similar rules

[steep axle]

and i can probably make a full sd team if ely has LoA support stuff

this is so boring i hope ely comes out soon

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

oh right its in um 2 smth days

[glass nacelle]

Spork top now

[main goblet]

right before the next patch with the sd valk.. nice bait

[glass nacelle]

She got new skin

[main goblet]

yeah

i wonder if the p2 adv means that the valks in it won't be in carnival supply hmm

[abstract night]

I would love to gamba for sushang ....or dudu i guess

Teri vita sparkle dudu...

[main goblet]

i might use the free pulls on the recent from the list that i don't have

but my luck was shit on both carnivals so

[abstract night]

Well i might do sparkle s2...

[main goblet]

err
and i recall u don't have her wp?

[abstract night]

Shhhhhh

[main goblet]

[abstract night]

The only other one thats worth it would be s2 vita..

[main goblet]

that would be a banger pick

[abstract night]

Yeah...

[main goblet]

actually i would consider s2 vita or s2 thele if its available and the other options i don't need

[abstract night]

TF on WA and more breach

But
12 sp??

Otherwise im going songque

[velvet dune]

S2 thelema is fun If you like her

But s2 Vita prob better bc shes still used more

[main goblet]

yeah, ig i wait for the carnival list first

[velvet dune]

I want s2 bita too

Like alot

[abstract night]

S2 Sparkle also gives TF on CA

[main goblet]

im assuming it would be lds jds sci lp
if they follow the 2 sample size of a pattern that is

[abstract night]

Lds?

[main goblet]

lamp

[abstract night]

Oh

Lone destruction shadow?

Im going Songque at that point

[velvet dune]

Yeah Vita in a year and a half If it continues like that

[velvet dune]

But i better have s2 Vita in my Account by then

[abstract night]

Huh okay lol

[main goblet]

yeah ill be considering s2 vita as well

that is if i get anything

i like how it used to be that 3 from the shus were the only wod valks and got matching names but then there's hohe and her dkey

[abstract night]

Theres a colon

So it works

Herscher of Human: Ego

Butched the spelling

[main goblet]

just that 😔

[final locust]

hard pick between S2 JDS and S2 vita

we'll see what happens with WS cuz that's the only place vita's relevant

[main goblet]

def s2 vita

[final locust]

yeah ig

FDD/LP is also a decent setup for LoA

[abstract night]

S2 vita

[main goblet]

ranked vita starts to match with fdd in loa so worth considering

[final locust]

hmmm

yeah ig s2 vita then if that's the pool

[abstract night]

~~ What about in WS ~~

[final locust]

vita is the best breacher in WS

[abstract night]

(Joke)

[main goblet]

do you mean qua gaming

[abstract night]

Its so funny how WS consists of
Quantum Quantum and Stardust and mecha

Quantum shill goes hard

[main goblet]

senawho

unless hoyo remembers ws ig

[abstract night]

I would love another ws

Ws's entire concept is so amazing

yet i got my first ws in 7.7

[main goblet]

lmao

i mean teri is the second ws dps so lol

[abstract night]

Yuh

Then i lucksacked a sparkle (which could of been my ignite coverage....but oh well) so i got all the ws's

Helia¹ is so tied to sena and teri

[main goblet]

sena doesn't even complete so more like the only option

[abstract night]

I should try sparkle helia Vita

[main goblet]

[abstract night]

What

[main goblet]

why vbs tho

[abstract night]

Cuz i like pewpewpew

Who wouldnt like pewpewpewpew

[main goblet]

full pewpewpew gameplay in er
wtv u wanna tho

[abstract night]

Eh wtv

[main goblet]

i did vbs lp fws in hott bc fuck it

[abstract night]

[ember locust]

Wait a minute... If we got HoFi in BP Reserve rn and HoTr is currently skipped for Reserve bc of her recent apparition (in BP's patches), does that mean the next potential valk to be put in reserve might be actually Hare in 8.5 ?

[smoky lintel]

imo still a bit early for hare, and they also added things from 2 separate patches that were like 2-3 patches apart in 8.3 we can probably expect something like HoTr + VQ though who knows hare might be the second valk instead of VQ

hoyo hasnt really followed a strict release pattern with reserve work

[ember locust]

True and reserve actually only appeared in 8.2

[ember locust]

Ok nvm it's not that recent, HoTr last apparition was in BP in 7.8

Though

Aight

[ember locust]

It is recent in terms of patches though for HoTr on BP because 7.8 was literally the last BP shop we got before going into BP 3.0

(If not 2.0)

[smoky lintel]

i dont think hoyo cares about that

[ember locust]

True though, still weird they skipped HoTr until now

[smoky lintel]

we also got JK and HoO in 8.3 and skipped CN which we then got this patch

so HoTr is kinda obvious for next patch

[ember locust]

I mean CN is a SP so if they decided to add 2 S Ranks valks in BP... Not really a wonder

Since it seems they're just going with 2 sets per patch

[smoky lintel]

i mean hoyo isnt following a clear pattern there either we got 2 S ranks in 8.3 and only 1 this patch i dont see how her being SP has really anything to do with this

they're just roughly following release orders while jumping a bit between patches

same shit they did before

[ember locust]

Yeah there's literally no pattern possible

Not only bc we got HoTr in 7.8 and 7.9 but also bc we got Hare in 8.0 and 8.1

So yeah either they go HoTr and then Hare later on, or they straight up jump Hare just to propose her again even more later on

This got me curious

Same as the question "will Elysia have many TAGS or just 2-3"

[atomic coral]

the question I really have is will ely have a "???" tag

[muted mauve]

18 days of the pink thing this patch alone

Main event - 11 days clear
Mini event - 7 days clear

[rain isle]

[ember locust]

So soon ? Idk... Though it will be our 2nd GoI valk. Which might sign a change of AR again in 2 patches if that's the case (starting from 8.5)

[atomic coral]

i mean, RS started LoA and she already had a "???" tag

[ember locust]

True

[ember locust]

But reminder : until now, without counting DKs and A Ranks, we only got 3 valks per AR

WoS : Sparkle, Sena, Teri
WoD : Thelema, Lantern, Songque
LoA : Durandal, Kiana, Sushang
GoI : Helia, Elysia, ????
RoO : Vita, Coralie, ????

[final locust]

wtf is WoS

[shrewd socket]

WS

[final locust]

WS: TFM, FL, VBs, SImp
RoO: VBm, LP, HoFi, FDD
WoD: MPS, LDS, JDS, HoH:E
LoA: RS, FWS, PS
GoI: PAWS, LWE

[full iris]

World Star

That chunk of abbreviations look like some weird coded message

[final locust]

and then for asops there's
WS: songque
RoO: chenxue, teri
WoD: serapeum
LoA: teri
GoI: chenxue

[shrewd socket]

no dkey name instead? using valk name is kinda misleading

[final locust]

not in a help channel so wtv

[shrewd socket]

[gleaming imp]

2/3 more days

[final locust]

2 days for us

[ember locust]

Again for not reading my messages

[ember locust]

^^

[final locust]

you say 3 valks per ring and then ignore the A ranks and dkeys to push and fit your agenda

[gleaming imp]

I really hope elys animations give what they’re supposed to give and gag everyone

[muted mauve]

a day and a half

[final locust]

dem

[ember locust]

Because we got no A ranks after Helia and Coralie and also got only a weap bring the others an AR that wouldn't exist without it

[final locust]

it doesn't matter when the game counts them as having that AR's tag

[gleaming imp]

I don’t want a ranks tbh

[final locust]

i do

i miss sp valks
and a ranks

[gleaming imp]

Unless their weapon was free or something I don’t want them since I wouldn’t like if a character I liked got relegated to a rank and not be a s rank

[ember locust]

Still not the matter when literally all valks after 7.3 were straight up S Ranks but whatsoever

[final locust]

"but whatsoever" 😭

[atomic coral]

would make team building for new people easier though

[ember locust]

Understood but at least it avoid the double pain of pulling

[final locust]

no it doesn't

they just have to do a patch where the main valk is an sp valk

but they won't do that again

CE was the last time
sp valks don't even exist anymore

[ember locust]

They literally won't do that ever and same for A Ranks

Again

[gleaming imp]

Just pull vita and cora2 and you have a valk to support all rings, plus the dkeys for valks and there you go, you have the cheapest way to support all rings

[final locust]

A ranks we don't know

but SP valks aren't a thing anymore

[ember locust]

SP valks were literally A Ranks too and tbh both are long gone

[final locust]

SP valks and A ranks are different

even if they share the same rank
just like augment cores

their banners are diff and skill tree is diff

[ember locust]

And again, if they decided to release A ranks or SP for each AR, they would have done so waaaaay sooner

Plus SP also start at A Rank

[final locust]

i mean there's still how many AR types left

7

[ember locust]

7 in which we will have no A ranks since they straight up stopped doing that

[final locust]

we don't know that they stopped doing A ranks yet

it's still possible for future AR types to have a rank(s)

[ember locust]

Deadass, Helia and Coralie were mainly made because Sena needed a whole to work well with AR

Without that context, A ranks were literally not a thing since so loong

[final locust]

sena didn't even use senatrio for most of her bosses in 7.3

[atomic coral]

i used eden luna sena for a while

[final locust]

and even then helia was used with sena all the way up until 7.8
coralie is still being used today

[ember locust]

That still doesn't change the matter. Without the new mechanic, Coralie and Helia wouldn't even be there in the first place as A ranks

[final locust]

that was usually the best team for sena in 7.3 or sena lv htr

[final locust]

you dont know that tho

saying they're done with A ranks is probably decently accurate but not fully accurate because there are still 7 AR types and years left on this game
plenty of time to release 1 A rank

[ember locust]

Buddy, it's pure gacha and financial logic here. They wouldn't add a new mechanic without adding the tools needed to play with said new mechanic. Cora and Helia were freebies A ranks for a reason in 7.3 (except Helia's weap).

If you're so on board with technical words, the last A Rank (not SP) valk before Helia and Coralie was Raven

Which was in 5.2

[final locust]

i didn't say SP valks weren't A ranks they're just different

[ember locust]

5.2-7.3

21 patches gap between Raven and Helia + Cora

21 PAtches without simple A rank

A Ranks were long gone

[final locust]

no they were not 😭

A Ranks were a fat part of the meta for most of P1

they just took the form of SP valks which are different from A ranks but they still share the same rank

[ember locust]

Dude, SP valks were a thing ofc, but I meant like A rank that were not SP valks

21 patches beween no A Rank Raven and A Rank Coralie and Helia

You gotta cope with it

A Ranks without SP were long gone

[final locust]

and when was the last time an SP valk came out before 7.3

7.1

if A ranks were long gone they would have made cora/helia SP valks as well 😭

[ember locust]

Yeah but SP, not just A Rank

[final locust]

idk what you're trying to get at or how this correlates with your 3 valks per ring thing

[rancid plank]

What are you even arguing about

[ember locust]

They didn't make them SP valks for a reason

[final locust]

he says they only do 3 valks per ring

[ember locust]

Nuh uh you ain't resuming the conv with just that buddy

[final locust]

that's what you say constantly

[ember locust]

About 3 valks per AR and this man going delulu about A Ranks

[final locust]

not even just A ranks

[rancid plank]

sure, rough pattern of three gacha valks a ring. No guarentee they’ll stick with it, but it’s probably better than even odds. And then we’ll get some random dkeys?

[final locust]

you're ignoring stellar keys too

[rain isle]

Spreading love and wholesome vibes 🍞

[ember locust]

MAYBE bc that was the main subject before you've gone out of subject

Read the room

[final locust]

and what was that reason

[rancid plank]

Idk an A rank wouldn’t shock me at some point but it’ll probably be a while, at some point the free units might get dated enough that they release a new slightly less dated cope support. But it’s anyone’s guess, mihoyo does what they please. And it also wouldn’t shock me if they never do an A rank again

[final locust]

because i thought A ranks were long gone after raven

[rancid plank]

Fathoming the minds of gacha makers is

Reading tea leaves tbh

I try not to have strong expectations about what random decisions they will make

[final locust]

i don't really care if they release an A rank or not honestly but i know it's definitely a possibility 😭

[ember locust]

Bc generally you would need to pull for both weaps if that was the case, in addition of Sena

[ember locust]

Funny, just like your arguments

[final locust]

what does that have to do with anything 😭

you had to pull helia's weap, and coralie's was free from story

[ember locust]

Bro is gonna make me have my second headache of the week, and it's only tuesday SMH

[final locust]

you literally make 0 sense

[ember locust]

Yeah whatever floats your boat

[final locust]

no that literally does not correlate at all

"A ranks were long gone after raven"
"okay, why were coralie and helia regular A ranks"
"cuz u wouldve had to pull both their weapons if they werent"
??????

[ember locust]

Still filling your agenda

[ember locust]

1- All A ranks after Raven were SP valks
2- Because they wouldn't take the risk of making a Trio case again were you need to whale 3 S valks
3- Same reason as 2nd one

Again pure gacha and finance logic

Nothing more

[final locust]

what would the difference be if coralie and helia were SP valks

[ember locust]

Hence why they were free

[ember locust]

Bro forgot we needed to pull every single piece of gear for SP valks in a time where banners still had off-featured gears

[final locust]

genuinely wtf are u even saying 😭

idgi

[smoky lintel]

when tf did you need to whale for 3 s ranks for trio HoO was basically an a rank since you only needed to pull for gear

[ember locust]

If you don't understand something when I'm clearly explaining it, do think again

[ember locust]

Ok one point for that, still you had to summon entirely 2 of them

[smoky lintel]

in 2 different patches that was really just a normal release

[ember locust]

Still 3 S in a whole team

[rancid plank]

most teams are 3 s ranks these days

[smoky lintel]

HoO was the equivelent to an A rank what are you on about ?

she was literally free

[final locust]

okay but they got rid of that in 7.3

[dense harness]

during part one the equipment banner was the worse, that's why we make the distinction between S ranks before and after p2

[ember locust]

That too, but in P1... Not the same deal, at least it wasn't that common to have triple based S valks in teams

[ember locust]

^^ For literally thiw very reason @rancid plank

[dense harness]

it was 200 pulls max for all equipment, on the opposite of only 60 max for the weapon now (with stigmata craftable) that's one of the best change i've ever seen

[final locust]

HoO card and stig box were free

and her equipment banner was really good because it refunded you cards every time you did a 10x

it was the equivalent or even less expensive than pulling an SP valk/A rank

[gleaming imp]

Tbf Stellar keys replace the need for a ranks, the Stellar ring valks cover all rings for cheap cost

Plus if you get vita and cora2 you and the Stellar keys it's the cheapest cost to cover all rings

[slim lion]

I'm sorry what

ALL rings?

Sign me tf up for that mysteries key bro

[final locust]

they don't cover WS or GoI

[gleaming imp]

You have hofin for roo and ws, hoh for wod, loa, goi

[vale granite]

HoFi?

[slim lion]

*elysia does but continue

[final locust]

oh damn they do cover every ring then

[vale granite]

Rare Drya W

[final locust]

HoFi covers RoO and WS
HoHE covers WoD LoA and GoI

[gleaming imp]

And you can grab vita and cora2 second Valk to cover all ring types

[slim lion]

Ok but not a key for all of them

[slim lion]

Dw he will ruin it by promoting to pull jds adv

[final locust]

eventually™
soon™

[gleaming imp]

All ring types atm

[smoky lintel]

you're still fucked in GoI

or including stellar keys

[vale granite]

Imagine if 8.5 actually makes Songque retire

[vale granite]

The ultimate bait

[final locust]

her run has been long enough 😭 it's time to let her go

[slim lion]

I can see her in MA for fishsk-
Oh wait that's patched

[vale granite]

Fish skip is not good in MA

[gleaming imp]

People should on songque ascension since her AR animation is such a motherquake serve on the motherscale

[vale granite]

Cuz CAs alr are sus anis there

[slim lion]

Fair

[final locust]

fishskip also does lose a teensy bit of dmg

[vale granite]

You more than compensate for that with speed

[final locust]

it's just so tiny in abyss that it never mattered
in MA it does matter tho

[vale granite]

(in Abyss)

[ember locust]

Well her ASC got officialized for the end of 8.4

[vale granite]

Ye, ik

[final locust]

that means SImp is next

vita ascension supply

[gleaming imp]

I would pick up songque from ascension but no funds if I do for like a paws probably or Ely ascension, if I picked up songque I would have to skip paws ascension to afford it

[final locust]

????

[ember locust]

Shit is coming fast

[slim lion]

Isn't it a bit...far?

[final locust]

why would PAWS ascension be anywhere close to JDS ascension

[slim lion]

^^

[final locust]

PAWS literally just came out she wont have an ascension for another year

[ember locust]

He always have been like that, just his simps habits

He's not pulling for meta

[slim lion]

Been knowing him more than you do yes I'm aware

[final locust]

drya just pull JDS at least then youll have a phys DPS

a years worth of xtal income is 122k

[gleaming imp]

I have to afford 14k on vita ascension for SS rank, 16.8k for horb dkey if it ever happens since hoh and hofin got one, then 42k for paws ascension, another 42k for Ely ascension supply

[final locust]

you can easily do that

[slim lion]

Just get the card early smh

[final locust]

14k and 16.8k can be made in 1.5 patches
84k can be made in a year

[slim lion]

[atomic coral]

what do you even have for phys actually

[gleaming imp]

And if another Valk I really like comes after Ely then another 42k needed

[final locust]

you make 122k xtals in a year as an F2P
you have more than enough time and resources to afford PAWS/LWE ascension

[gleaming imp]

This my account atm, so nothing for phys

[final locust]

pls pull JDS 😭

what's your xtal count now
we can dissect and go over it

[gleaming imp]

So basically if I pull songque ascension then I'll be able to afford 50 pulls on vita ascension and horb dkey, and 3 ascension supplys after that by the time it's paws ascension supply? My current crystals count is 34k

According to this image it's at 34k

[final locust]

oh my god you have more than enough xtals 😭

[gleaming imp]

Really?

[final locust]

vita ascension won't be for another 2 patches at least, so that's ~40k xtals
HoRb dkey if it is coming is more likely to come next patch than any other patch because CN anni, you have enough weeks to afford ely + HoRb dk by the time 8.5 comes out. if HoRb dk isn't 8.5 then even better and you can save more
PAWS ascension is not for another year at least. same for ely ascension. late next year at best. in the time it would likely take for LWE to get an ascension supply you can make 139.5k xtals which would be enough to pull PAWS ascension plus any valks you might want before/after that

[gleaming imp]

songque ascension supply it is then

[final locust]

you can make 17k more xtals by the time 8.5 comes out

that's 51k
if you have even an ounce of luck that's easily enough to guarantee LWE 4/4 and HRB DK
if no HRB dk you are gigachilling lmfao

[gleaming imp]

And songque ascension supply refunds pulls which those refunded pulls can be used for a future horb dkey

[final locust]

oh also next patch is 10 weeks so another entire week to build xtals

[gleaming imp]

I'm skipping s0 Ely for ascension

[final locust]

then you're fine

[gleaming imp]

Tysm

[final locust]

could even pull SImp ascension if you really wanted to i think

but that'd be risky and not worth it

[abstract night]

Isnt jds a lot worse than she was cuz of the loss of fish skip?

[gleaming imp]

I'm so happy, I can get songque she has my favorite ar animation

[final locust]

actually if HRB dk happens next patch you won't be able to pull SImp ascension

[final locust]

no she's still good

that might change when LWE comes out tho

[gleaming imp]

Tbf I was never gonna do the fish skip since I can't do techs like fish skip or the hofin tech so it makes no difference to me

[atomic coral]

i was too lazy to do it

[gleaming imp]

Also lazy to learn

Like I know what I can and cannot do

[final locust]

i refused to do it because it was stupid and cheap

[abstract night]

Shes used outside of sd still?

[final locust]

nah but used in MA

also he has nothing else and she's a top 5 LoA support with or without fishskip

[gleaming imp]

Since I'm getting songque who would her teammates be? For WoD I got hoh, thelema, senawho, vita?

[final locust]

thele vita

[gleaming imp]

Omg my ss thelema is getting more use

[abstract night]

LoA supports in question:
Songque (given)
Vita
Sparkle
Dudu
Badum
HoH
Sushang
Helia
Coralie

9 valks
wheres ws support.. :(

[final locust]

wheres ws support is a crazy question bro

literally every valk pre-8.0 had WS tag
only one that didn't was JDS

[still condor]

WS in 2025

[vale granite]

Let's list it for good measure

[gleaming imp]

For WS there's hofin, helibad, cora1, vita, thelema, lamp, simp, sparkle, badum

[final locust]

WS supports:
sena
coralie
helia
thele
lantern
simp
vita
hofi
sparkle
badum

[vale granite]

Sena
Helia
Coralie
Thele
Lantern
Teri
Vita
HoFi
Sparkle
Badum

[smoky lintel]

Sena
Vbs
Vbm
Thele
lantern
Schi
lantern
sparkle
fws
hofi

[abstract night]

Hm

Need some more ngl

[final locust]

world star and LoA have the most supports

[still condor]

did we need 4 lists

[gleaming imp]

Yes

[shrewd socket]

WS or resonance?

[vale granite]

Resonance

Supps for WS

[abstract night]

WoD got
Sena
Thelema
Lantern
Songque
Teri
Vita
Dudu
HoH

RoO got
Coralie², Coralie¹, Vita, HoFi