#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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I don't know people keep saying chimera event is about 1 hour on auto so I put 1 hour. Haven't had the time to go through it yet.
time -> read: felt like
Where are my passes 
Why am I under 400. I was at 800. 
I don't want to do dailies again 
Usually you get passes for just existing you're good 
HI3: ⬇️ New Content | ⬆️ End Game Repeatable Content
HSR: ⬆️ New Content | ⬇️ End Game Repeatable Content
Hi3 endgame content I like more since I can clear it
Feel that
Idk I've always thought gameplay wise HSR is super boring
It's the characters and story I stock around for
turn based combat in 2025 
Turn-based can be very good if implemented correctly
Ofc everyone has their own preferences, but I don't think HSR really captured the soul of that (ofc it's cuz you've gotta have a shit ton of chars somehow)
Not that this is an appropriate channel or anything 
HSR just has too little options for a turn based game (basic + skill + ult per character)
I remember recommending the devs to allow each character to equip a item they could use x times per battle for more freedom of team building/more in battle options.
like pokemon
they prolly care more about striking a balance to still be accesible
having fewer options to simplify for accesibility is part of the design
Pokemon literally has tens of options per creature. 
pokemon has rocky helm, leftovers, focus sash equip items
recently they added those to the trading card gacha
brought more complexity to battles that ppl kept wanting
it was pretty bare bones on release
but helped drag in lot of ppl who had never really tried the TCG before
its a simplified version of the actual tcg game
doenst even have cn release 
in the tcg ur poke only has 1 move. some rare ones have 2
forgot to say tcg

My ice queen jingliu doesn’t cut it these days 
-# offtopic but her team is old, she only got rm and sunday
I remember the good old days 
Midliu


good character held hostage in mid game 
mid characters
why is no one doing the boss stage
Is great, HSR just does it bad
yeah i guess it can be made more interesting sometimes 
i like how idea factory does it, where you get to move around on the field during your turn 
domyabyss
gibdudufunds

this isn't a dudu boss though is it 
it will be if u mald hard enough
brick in 2025
It is.
HoS - RS - HoRb
oh i thought we were talking about NA abyss, nevermind 

NA with 524D RL? 
i wasn't paying attention 
Help
wtf 19k
Content today 
livestream lasts 20 mins trust
caycay using my faq

i think wrong channel, u can use mine but can i even drop my code here 
sure
claimed
Now wait 2 weeks for your 300 xtals




Ok, i delete my messages



7 hours 

Hi Khai love u 
damn if its constantly 9 weeks,that mean less valk
not necessarily true, they can make 2 S 
6 and half now 
When is the Livestream?


wth are they telling us to pull dudu
I’d pull for Dudu when we get her tall p2 self 
Hopefully her AR is one I’d have a good team for

wait 28 years its not happening this story arc
But we’ve been getting p1 characters non stop surely p2 tall Dudu soon 
but it actually cant happen
its impossible for it to happen

the only hope is some bubble world dudu 
I just want a new Dudu and Rita to simp for 
so unfaithful
wish granted
but she's astral op

teriri moment
💔💔💔
P2 teacher rita instead 
yea eepy should be aop,bcs bias i dont like the pajama
uglyass
So I'm wondering since elysia stamps are getting added to the shop, should I prioritise elysia or HOo
I have Elysia p2 full geared and she will reach SS soon via stardust shop
HOO is s2 and I only have her weapon but I also have kiana p2 key
HoO doesn't get as many playgrounds as Hohe does for now
or does she 

Both ded
fundmessselypls
Elybad
I mean ely just got dkey so I doubt she'll just perish


8.1 seem like a big bait
Given the patch length now
Patch valks can hardly be called bait
Can be easy than ever to save up, pull, and save. More than enough time to pull next version
= more free crystal = more dead 
maybe they could replace 1 abyss cycle with new gamemode
too much competitive game mode can be problematic too
I desperately need new game mode
45 mins 
We could just get rid of ER
We desperately need more Lite pass sources
instead of ER only updating once per patch and weathers twice per patch just update it once per week
and you choose a character for the week then compete timings with other people who chose that character
I'm at 370 on CN. 
SN gonna have like 2 people competing
Nah, SN will be somewhat popular specifically cuz she's that bad
Gotta pick a hella mid one like Kallens or smth
hoh ranking gonna be hella impossible
and then if you rank in the top x% you get an emblem

the vg meta will be insane
Are there any ER chars that are actually difficult
Not straight up bad, but require more than 1 braincell
!faq wronfadvice
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Hi Captain! Sorry to cut you off... 
Ai-chan recommends that you leave the advising to more experienced captains, but we appreciate your enthusiasm.
If you aren't sure if the advice you want to give is correct, please wait for others in the channel to answer instead. You wouldn't want to be responsible for someone making a huge mistake!
there we go
Well, iirc most of the tickets are in the beginning of a patch
me when i the speller
and one of them will be me 
which is why we need more at the end of the patch
So pretty
As long as they compensate for the increased patch length by increasing the amount you get (doesn't matter when) it should be fine
You can also buy some from the ER shop

That's what would happen to a person if they tried to meet their waifu
almost all f2p can get every s0+1 this year if no 150 
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finally strting now
Poor Chibi.
Birb
Wasn't that... cannibalism?
me see that too
Yunchin 
new bear for 8.3
hsr format lol
Chibi stream 

Hsr collab part 2 confirmed
hi3 glb
more hsr content 
Ded
already was expected from the chibi in the stream announcement pic
leylah lost child
Chibi Leylah immediately changes herself to Entropy 
the bullet comment saying 2 widow 
litost boss?
It's the second time that they make chibi stream right
coed
mf he look like Sam !!!!


firefly
more hsr content real
The best event is coming back
snizzy snack?
Holy hell
||The man that took out Coralie is back on the radar.||
Wth this is Dark Flame Reaver from star rail
cheap copy
even the clones
streams are ruined

Not sure, always has been
It wasnt even released on BKE patch it dropped in 4.2
FR patch
HSR players complain and the dev team quickly puts up a post about how they will change the abundance of puzzles in the main story and even have a dedicated stream section for it.
HI3 team extends every patch by 3 weeks and stays silent.

wow code isn't a keyboard smash
I liked when my HI3 codes looked like a random generated password requiring AES-256 hashing

I was hoping for alter helia boss ngl 
coralie back?
im asking also who's that 
looks like abyss flower worked
No.
Video shows someone flatlining
Asking if Person Back
???

Helia dedge? 
maybe she disconnected herself 
Litost looks a bit cooler tbh 
fr
Now add him to list of playable bosses lol
he should have stayed hooded
Sushang's EN battlesuit name is Peregrine Sword
Pog
ps 2
PSP
||Litost boss just looks like Vergil Devil Trigger with his doppelgangers||
PlayStation
coola
Nice code
BH3RD0327
Ps
Durandal and Rita married, living together and logged in each other's account confirmed

Rita you mean
brain flatlined
goddamit Mei let the girl have her noodles 
NOT_MEI
NOT_MEI
NOT_MEI
ME_MEI
so angry
🫑
ofc im having second doubts about sushang vs teri aop value
but idk, I guess having a bleed valk is better than double shift?
is there even a point in skipping anymore
both needed
valk vs aop is not fair
its not fair, but my crystal count says I have to choose
AO can help you retain nirvana, bleed valk help you reaching nirvana more often
so do i
rest is no problem. I just dunno if S rank teri is even better atp
so it might just set me up to pull for SS
new ring should be near
i mean yeah, after sushang they have their trio for LoA
save for 8.3 
im just thinking, where people have Luna, I don't have anything
she won't help you anw
at least wait for 8.3 news
and hitcount will be yet another niche I fail at, where vita is a good cope in comparison
me without good cope
Bro look like my fashion frame in warframe 
definitely the HoTr
who else has breach
sushang is better for you, but 8.3 could be even better
sena
i know
The day we transcend the evil cabbage
I'll grab my wine
ugh
i mean technically, if I do pull teri aop to hard pity and save up on 8.2 fully, I should hit hard pity on 8.3 maybe
cause i always she her present in diffrent line ups
i mean she provides similar things
8.3 could be spending 
now that's impossible
*top-up
they'll do topup first
CN Anni is around 8.4? 8.2 last until May
does CN Anni even affect us?
nice cope
when is cn anni again?

Oct
oct
maybe we get vol 4
and still no vol 3 for glb
Wao piyo no longer red
I'm not optimistic about artbook anymore
stop
Kabej now 
i mean
cn will have vol 4 already
meanwhile glb hasnt got any news for glb
i only have vol2
lol they realease
i mean
It doesn't if you don't care about stonk suits 
Last anni valk was luna and the one before was Elysia
vol2 have Mobius "Daughter of Corals" art which is good
english one tends to be more expensive
i have vol 1,2,3 
just 💳
Can i use your?
so that's why people call Sushang a skip?

very uncanny table to read, explain
also when will carv use dark mode
it said your from vietnam
didint asia have
event artbook like selling it
much better chart. now use dark mode
No
No
fine I'll make it inverted myself
No 

my guess is mecha Litost or Helia for 8.3
Definitely Helia
stooped
is hrb leader better
rat with mommy issues
Litost is mommy? 

daddy issues*

Sebadina is her daddy
cn anni should be 8.5
8.3 8.5 spending make sense
either 8.4 8.5 or 8.5 only dont make much sense 
actually, leylah has issues with both parents. she's fucked
no spending until anni
mommy Litost sounds better I'll stick with that
but my dkey

chibi why did you multiply?
mimi you're new to the server
yes im a new player
nice to meet you

They are gonna give us chibi teacher Rita and make her playable in 8.3.
That's why she was hidden from the livestream.
WAAAAA CUTEEE

MIMI

I genuinely want to know why hi3 team is so silent about everything.
Even their bigger teams are more open to issues.
Meanwhile hi3 team has the player suffering while sweeping things under the rug.
MAMA

uwu
I was surprised but looks like more people are happy with the arrangement. Then I guess I am the minority
you will hear from my lawyers 
courtesy to gimp, just to piss you more off 

old company thinking
"Only tell your customers the utmost necessary"
which doesn't work for shit when making a videogame
and if its not the utmost necessary, only the good news. Never the bad
it relies on most of us not thinking straight if we hear the reasons for the bad news
while the exact opposite is true
||BPM zero-zero-zero.||
guys can we talk about the stream here
sure
okay so uhhh we can all agree that the dark lord aint coming back right
not in a resurrection kind of way
yeah
i'm sure many agree that it would destroy character development if not done properly
as much as it pains me to say that. I loved coralie
same 
meta wise never pull for outfits 
but if u dont care about meta/have crys to spare and like vita herself and the outfit then i dont see why not
i took the growth mats on her banner and dipped
i see 5 focused cards 
Get outfit to improve your morale dmg 
Can't bald for good score without morale
there was this one time that i randomly pulled once after the free pull (160 crys)
and somehow the game gave me the 5 pulls 
best 160 crys i've ever spent
cannot

flashback is not an update of info so I don't see a change
Canned dog food
Can chan is dog food?
🥫
who did you call chicken


green chat
Your avatar is so cute
i meant PS
whats that 

Helia missed Coralie badly so picked up a game she left behind despite not being a big gamer
Well done HI3 devs. Stop stabbing
i'm so late on my cn beta content the english name of the battlesuit is out

did susu's best team change
why flacon
it's not hi3 without stabs
The peregrine falcon (Falco peregrinus), also known simply as the peregrine, is a cosmopolitan bird of prey (raptor) in the family Falconidae. A large, crow-sized falcon, it has a blue-grey back, barred white underparts, and a black head. The peregrine is renowned for its speed. It can reach over 320 km/h (200 mph) during its characteristic hunt...
But peregrine also means someone/something who wanders 
family Falconidae. A large, crow-sized falcon

cay is picking on my typo 25AM
why are you not asleep.
you need to rest for the meat to be tender. 
something very stressful happened around here I have trouble taking rests
not a topic for here

oh. 
and I have a mission to stop hoyo from cooking the mascots
a futile mission that is
No cooking Ai-Chan. Got it.
Ai-Chan is the producer
🐳

I cannot get over the fact that the past 3 PVs have been a bunch of super dark serious scenes and then it immediately cuts to a silly part 1 Valkyrie twirling around with a hoverboard/snake/umbrella 💀
Yeah it’s so annoying
how so
I just hope that they actually release a p2 cast character in 8.3 because 3 consecutive part 1 cast Valkyries is definitely a little excessive lol
At least there is some characters that's already introduce but haven't been valk yet like.seraphim
Cuckoo's
It’s tonally jarring
I hope so too
The last 2 p was Songque
Well it does for me. The pvs changing tones feels like they are downplaying the events of the story
Tbf without fitted context, even P2 valk introduction in the PV would not match with the story itself, so it's not entirely P1 valks fault
Well it doesn’t flow very well when it comes to valk/main event parr of the pv
bc it's not main event? it's main story
remind me siren pv kek
I have a game for you. It's called Houkai Gakuen 2 


The middle portion of the pv is main event and valk, right?
Well that doesn’t flow well with the main story part of the pv
it's just valk
brother the main purpose of the pv is to tell you what content is introduced in the patch
flow is not important here
^
it's not like
keksumi pv belike

ok fossil
Honkai Impact 3rd v6.1: Moonshade Epic coming soon!
New S-rank battlesuit Jade Knight for Li Sushang debuts!
Story Chapter XXXII, featured event Midnight Chronicle and awesome bonuses to be released! Stay tuned!
Voice Artists:
Kiana: Rie Kugimiya
Raiden Mei: Miyuki Sawashiro
Prometheus: Kana Asumi
Li Sushang: Misato Fukuen
Gray Serpent: Takatsug...
ama
ok ngl i like JK colour scheme
very cool

When new yae battlesuit?
never
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When at least there's a1:1 scale of her in HQ
And I have her 1:4 scale
I noticed in her intro the temple kinda has the same color as her yae b chips skin
Raven the spine breaker
flop 
why are we upset now?
what's upset
idk the vibe here seems grumpy rn
?
always has been in this channel 
Needs more changes from beta to get more doomposting
dunno about others but I'm upset because the devs didn't mention the extended patch duration in the livestream
I'm upset bc no content
devs are scared
using chibis and va for stream
no more confidence in showing themselves
Indie company pls understand cant show up at stream bcs theyre working overtime with less ppl in office now
That's exactly what I expected to see when I was reading Carv's msg 🗿

I am scared because they cook chicken again

the only thing worse than no content is no content without justification.
I want a justification.
I don't tolerate this shitty behavior of just sweeping things under the rug.
unfortunately I doubt they'll say much
guys is there any in4 on 8.2 supply schedule?
only sushang 6 weeks banner after patch started and thelema leap supply on week 5, other than that nothing new yet
imagine this: complete newbie, s0+1 new tuna as literally the only valk, who should i pull for next
lantern rerun ig bcs new weather 

i am not touching lantern within a 10km radius thanks
Seriously though, Sushang is considerable in that case
new weather before lantern rerun
Depends on 8.3 strictly speaking
lamp in 2025
💀
how about sus
?
not if people keep silent
susannah
ew

Well, Dudu's shill will likely be gone at that point
And in LoA Dudu is not a great support unless you specifically need shieldbreak
as long as shields still exist she'll live
welp dudu ice dps anyways since im not getting teri anytime soon
Sparkel shill instead
sbork in 2025
spork in 2025
HoH is better?
About the same iirc
HoH can barely even support lmao she only provides damage from herself in LoA team
i swear i feel like spork's hella overrated in every way (extremely hot take i know)
sushang can also deal shieldbreak right?
hitcount shield 
Only personal shieldbreak with Stellar Shift iirc
good enough
only leader kek
Oh xdd
how is Sushang's support capabilities
or do we have to wait till ??? ring to see that
need more data 
need more whel 
so far just literally average LoA support but hitcount shred + bleed as niche iirc
Anyway, I'd wait until Dudu's banner at the very least
(from kurofunds)
*more denwhel

maybe more crumbs on 8.2 supply then?
its like 2 weeks from now
surely right
i said it already

dudu suddenly getting a bunch of weathers at the end of this patch
(keep in mind it doesn't mean shit by itself)
okay is it just me or does vita seem god awful compared to others
Doesn't include Breach
she is
oh right breach
She isn't tho
Would she work for badum kiana?
the most noticeable thing she provides
in a different perspective
as both support and dps yes
not including special buffs ig like qte bonus from songque
I defo agree that she feels awful xdd
yes, you kinda want her for new sd weather with bleed blobs
make all her animations stop timer pls
even after the stellar drain in eba4 she still barely feels playable 
I love vita. but i wanna replace her in my badum kiana team
999 pts is real
like yes she deals beeg dmg and all but damn why is she slower than my grandma
beeg mecha taking too much time to lift its arm
Is there a WoD/WS edition?
WS in 2025
WS is dead
thank god
watch helium be new bis ws dps 
She will, dw

💀 💀
WS isnt that bad tho
right?
always bad
okay is it just me being delulu or theres this stupid chance for sporkel to literally just miss the 2 first reso triggers if the enemies are either too far or too high up
she does yea
like why is it even a thing
her legs are too short

WS dps:
Teri
Sparkle
Sena
WoD DPS:
Thelema
Lantern
Songque
HoH
RoO:
LP
HoFi

HoFi is a RoO dps right?
well yes
trio dps
I hate roo
trio own dps
yes but it is hard to see
oh really
so many red texts who the hell made this
u

send link

Translation?
lemme just
be me
proceeds to run sporkle hotr and make hotr lead
play p1 but with dk
get dead last on rl
new best way to hofi dk yes
she's just dps
she's just bad
still bis for hoo dps 
ewewew just use ms eternal
(yes loona stomps her in terms of raw dmg but still)
sometimes her regen dedge for wateva reason tho

imagine qteing in at 119 
and yes handel > turg
im not malding turg timer just because i accidentally pri-ed the gun
As an HoO dps support?
trio in 2025
just grab another gun
Theres LV HoTr (
) GD SCI ....uhhhhh yeah thats it i think
yeah sure lemme just no crys left because game refuses to hand me anyone below 85 pulls
why even bother with the non pri gun
it's already dead strats
ded bracket in 2025
oh right i can use the crystallum thingy for another gun
would i rather have this over a brand new dk tho 
by far im still 4 dks short 
Which ones are you missing
(still no judah in 2025 is sad ik)
It's indirectly craftable lah
just buy in shop
Forge Bounty weaps in Foundry and convert them for weap reso
that number's permanently staying at 2000 thanks
Then get Judah with the obtained reso
hmmm
great idea actually
3rd Sacred Relic is the cheapest one
it's more painful before 3.x changes
Well, it's defo better than wasting 10 balls on Judah
what do I event get next BP (on GLB).
Only DKS I'm missing is HoR/HoS and XY
other than that im lacking eden gun + flowar + xy sword iirc
probably hoh stamps
ded
Are you buying BPs or nay
Getting the rest of Luna's gear sounds worth it but idk if I want to give money to hi3 right now 
Tbh it doesn't sound worth to me lmao
Just save your balls
It'll take 2 patches worth of F2P time to afford XY sword whenever the hell they finally put it in

They'll put Stellar Keys before XY drops trust
kek
just accidentally lite-d everything to stage 7
pain
Well, it still takes multiple weeks to get
ig.
I'll save 30 before thinking of spending then.
a year of saving
and the moment i have the blueprint i can pretty much craft them instantly so yeh
i couldve literally gotten one right away
but again senile ahh
8.4 bp thelema trust 
no dudu demoot to sinful
stun in 2025
brick in 2025
Prom?
yes
now imagine me in that weather using pardo 
Is there Senti's brick in new bp
If no when it might be added
thats what no prome no dudu does to a man
might as well do all mob stages and dip
Prom doesnt cut it anymore?
might as well yk
no need to waste time and effort only to get -100 in the end
dudu = the better prome
of agony 2 sure
Shhh :<
- no
- unknown
Aw man😞
this is what the new bp have #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
CCs are using HoV a lot for this abyss lol brick who
@fervent hinge 


Is HoS there for the memes as well
still 50/50 on if i wanna save my crystalum to buy out the old Dkeys for more free atk or getting Sena ranks
sena dps weathers are almost never going to come
Do any of her ranks give anything for support
just get the new God Senadina battlesuit whenever that comes
Plural? 
Whos the best ws dps in retrospect iyo
Isn't SS1 extra Breach or am I misremembering
Lemme double check
Ah, only WS
Sad
well
they all kinda suck
but ig sparkle has the most bosses
they fr copied beru from solo leveling lmao
at least this isn't absolute cringe to look at
ig
pretty sure teri has more (as dps)
sparkle blows teri away as a support
sparkle weathers are only fire tona and kosma iirc
Is sushangs 8.2 character worth getting as of current Beta testing?
i think so
Apparently u can afford every char now
Cause 9 week patch slowing down content due to dyin game
but that's only 3 extra weeks
how much do you think you're gaining from that?
That's a 150% increase
A teensy bit less ofc cuz the amount of events stays the same
if the average for valk and weap is 30k and general patch income was estimated as high as 20k
and regular weekly income pans to around 2k each week
that's only going to be 26k per patch at best vs the 30k average
30k gives a 75% chance, it's not the average
The average was like 22k iirc
I remember there being a graph, but it'll be annoying to find
Ofc there still will be patches that have more than just valk + weap
yeah
and ultimately rng is still at play
so saying you can afford everyone is still a stretch if i want to nitpick but i can read between the lines
also i gave 20k to be generous but tbh i don't buy it
idk where people got that number from but i vaguely recall adding up income for sparkle patch to be less than that
20k is a bit too much, ye, 17-18k sounds more reasonable
yeah
15k back in p1 but there's definitely been higher income since then. Regular discount helps too
Oh, ye, this doesn't include the discount
I got hit hard with rng this patch, so I’m not fully confident I’ll get Sus within the first 90 trys or her weap within the first 50.
Imma still try though. I need a bleed unit
if you don't have enough then you can save enough for the wp (don't use just yet) and dump the rest on the valk and if you get the valk then go for the wp
That’s my plan
good to keep, good luck!! 
Thanks! 
@distant lagoon i mean she has "every actual hit counts as 3 hits for hitcount shields"
brrr
well idk i didn´t read the beta notes as much as in the past 
and even then her stellar shift does like 30 actual hits
gonna blast thru 100 count hit shield in one
brrr
new tag for ranged kalpas 
yeah sushang hitcount is disgustingly broken
i actually find this interesting, because now that im thinking abt it, if ||dark helia|| is in 8.3 thats around the time when new ring should release. and ||she uses guns|| so high possibility that shes ranged. the only piece of the puzzle thats left to let her take kalpas would be a rime trauma support
some food for thought
just got new dkey and you are pawning off bosses already
well she's a support too
and i hate kalpas because it uses l*ntern
even if i have her now using her brings me no joy
just use bita for the hitcount 
and lose 50 points
nah kalpas has big hit count shield. even vita takes time for that 
sushang though, she would absolutely destroy it. and she has ??? tag. so ||dark helia|| + susu + ??? rime trauma support would take ranged kalpas
||(if dark helia is ranged)||
just stick trauma directly on her 
yeah you could do that
when will the ice valk bullying end 
i love hohe but ranged kalpas is cancer
actually i got a better idea
having to use lantern anywhere is cancer
thelema dkey that lets her support new ring 
i confiscate your copium
mfw lantern is so shit that S0 could barely outscore SW on ranged kalpas 
what rank SW tho
SW has type counter bonus.
Meanwhile Kalpas resists Fire
even resisting fire i would hope lantern does 50%+ more damage than SW. but its evident she doesnt
2022 valk beats 2024 valk 
lantern is also really bad at burst damage
which is what you want for kalpass
when he is vulnerable
lantern is bad at all damage
its like they tried to make a p2 valk that was more focused on dpsing than supporting and just failed so miserably
well there´s still one worse char (in my opinion): SImp! Screw the slacker!
now now shes already bad enough theres no need to lie 
plenty of fact based badness to be found
lantern is worse than simp
at least simp is useful in MA and a lot of qua stuff
lantern is straight up useless outside of fire kosma, fire tank, and fire mobius
Lantern haters won 
wish i got thele S2 from carnival instead of that stupid ho
ngl it would be absolute cinema if hoyo did not release any new ice valk that beats thelema in everything just because funni
stop bully ice valks 
what bulli the absolutely most broken p2 valk yet is ice 
except that im not a thele fan but i can't lie her overall kit and usability carried me so hard
i dont miss playing thelema with sushang and 0/4 kira because i skipped sena 
i don't know what would of happened to me if i gave up on getting her with the shit luck that i had on her supply
demoot to forbidden

still we don´t get enough ice chars: 4 lightning, 3.5 fire (+0.5 for HoFi upgrade), 3 physical and only 1.5 ice (+0.5 for HoHe upgrade)
im curious was ice not loved by during part 1 too?
i see
oh and nyx was nyx 
lmao
Kira helped them a lot but then priorities over HoRb
HoR was way back in 3.3 and nyx wasnt til 4.8, i dont think there was an ice dps between them
qua curse i take it

SW wasnt til 5.4
Finally someone spitting facts about SW other than myself
same bad treatment. p 1.5 also only had one ice char in Kira while we got 5 physical, 2 fire and 1 lightning but that was Luna so
p1 was a bit better but they give out almost more ice support than DPS
hmm true
and everyone can say that HoTr isn´t a DPS 
Very copium
at least what relevant characters do we get does affect the abyss weathers as well so it isn't really bad aside from the ppl that don't wanna go through the ice chill and they don't have a suitable option to play
but its only that and the can move on
kira is also very uncomfortable to play why is this bitch always on swap cooldown fuck off 
but from a personal pov where ppl like to see a balance of everything i can see it
A problem of every valk that ults off field
ice always not existed and physical has massive identity issues
fr
fire and lightning are the golden boys
someone kick his ass 
Ice supports were golden tho
Fire supports all sucked ass
its still funny for me to see wind and water animations but see phy dmg
Raven
That was worse than a ice support
wind makes sense as physical damage but yea idk about water
so bad everyone hated her but good enough that everyone needed her 
Your other option before pardo came out was like BD or rondo 
Ah, the times when we spammed AE and a BD user in every single team
tbf there will be a lot of mixed opinions if hoyo decided to add more elements anyways
and ppl are already used to animations not reflecting the wp type of the valk so seeing that is normal tbh, still funny tho
they keep adding new types all the time why not elements 
when i look back is lightning always the favorite. fire had good dmg dealer but horrible support with reliance on AE with ult without time stop 
its because lightning is cool
now that i think about it, its not like physical have any specific identity so i can understand the use of that to still make physical animations appealing
Yep, lightning even had an separate debuff only by itself in conductive
well physical is like: am i bleed, am i shieldbreak or am i normal dmg? 
physical main problem is like they dont know what they are. bleed? shieldbreak? hitcount? stun? impair? and thats not enough we keep adding new random sheet like img core penetration or summoned entity
true true
like lightning dps is lightning dps that it we done here
physical have dozen different subclass
all cringe
aint that true 
They tried bringing some of this shieldbreak thing into ice, but i see it more as an addition here
at least physical is getting some love unlike some game i know
i mean its the classic create problem sell solution
lmao
when ppl are not interested to pull new valk just because they do slightly more damage
img core penetration is a thing of almost all S-rank IMG valks and summoned entities is a thing since we got crosses. impair is there just because of HI3 dmg calculation
so we come up with some wild sheet
Like Kosma
like what if the boss had some weird black hp that only the new valk can destroy? 
i wonder if making physical the only type to be able to crit is more of a curse than a unique and nice bonus
bc of the crit malding
ahh hp-loss... a mechanic that existed a long time but really got into focus with Kira 
bless for HoRb
true
Same as Senti dk... What was even Stun before that
No one cared
exactly
but just make new boss or weather that is a problem
then release new valk that can deal with it
rake in the money
its that simple
like idk
soon they will come up with underwater boss
and all the old valks will run out of breath
only the new valk with snorkel can do it
or how they added in beta 2 additional bosses for new sushi just to get sales? 
new summer outfits confirmed 
i mean thats normal they always add new boss for new valk
Somehow i was remembered of Dirac Sea for some reason
creating problems
"Let's make a Fire Qua valk who does less damage then the lightning qua valk we released two patches ago!"
"Wait a second, less dmg?"
"It's okay, we'll add a new Fire weather qua boss just for her to topscore something"
yeah but normally they have all new bosses/weather in v2 but this time they added 2 more in v3 just to make her more necessary
weather is just weather
lmao
ngl i still feel like sparkle was to sudden of an idea or just a last minute idea but they rolled with her anyways
yeah but then they released LoA and sparkle is infinitely more useful than this eepy
yeah loa is the only thing that pulled sparkle from being some whatever character
But Loona still exists 
ngl her loa value has only gone down since dudu
nah. she was likely already planned out since before part 2.
just a very very poor job
Tbh, both of them suck
For some reason quantum chars almost always gets the short end of the stick for some reason 
I was recently rewatching 7.2 stream and the whole bit of one saying maybe Vita who was always working alone will find a team with another saying "multiple bad woman" was probably a cheeky node to it.
still shitty writing and gameplay decisions 
Just like bio?
Carv is so starved of content he's watching old streams 
HoV? HoS? FoV? Bio is rare but when they do come out its like a 50% chance for it to be a crazy battlesuit
Hey. Someone asked something that was stated in the stream. 
Xdd
SA and CH too
so I went to check
Not SA really but CH yes
Shui hard carried SA, her stigs were better than she was
Not that she was bad but yeah shui being so good was the main reason SA was cracked in her time
i feel like you can say this for a LOT of valks even recent ones tho, no?
why would SA need 2 shui sets
Quantum on the other end... Damn they go kinda obsolete very quick

Physical ones were better tho
Obviously SA can't use 2 shui sets at once but it was very common for 2 sets of shui to be in demand especially in the FT era, HoS alsu used shui briefly for MA
VQ wanted 2 ala sets
your acc wanted 2 turg sets
your acc wanted 2 zaychik sets (kinda)
i can see the argument, but i feel like its not exclusive to SA
Turg yes, 2 sets of zaychik is a giga whale luxury
two handel too
Two of Fischl stigma for some time, forgot the name
zhenyi yeah
zhenyi has uses for abyss




