#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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ded patch
Just like the character who gets her skin that patch
I skipped like 90% of er bcs it wouldn't let me do my weekly er challenges
they really need to seperate gameplay and story
too much shit for new player to handle, if you want to play efficiently, you have to skip story 
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True lol I'm literally rewatching er story since I spedran it for crystals
I'm not skipping the newer chapters but it feels so weird to be up to date on newest chapter while also still being on er chapter 2
i wanna eat ely dkey too
those bowstrings look very tasty
||Is HoHe, Sena, SIMP a good team?||
isnt SIMP extremely meh in Wheel?
idk, i also have small dudu maybe she is better
oh i guess you can
sena, simp and small dudu are my only harmonized shadowstar tag valks
herrscher of human really likes Thelema tho
hmm
im not the right person for this ngl
Ripge no mps

||sparkle is my only fully geared valk and i cant even use her for hohe||
maybe ill try to get simps or senas weapon on a rerun
as Lulu from league of legends once said. i reccomend skipping
thats what i was thinking but i alr have hohe and i have 20 pity on weapon supply banner so i might aswell get it right
cuz i also really need a ice valk
bc i dont have any
im kinda iffy on backpulling but you do have good components for Thelema
but theres also the sus prediction that Sushang could come next
At worst it's 10 atk
u mean that hohes weapon will give 10 atk like 7t?
yes
||isn’t Susannah also middle eastern?||
Is there gonna be free Thelema on 8.2 or 8.3?
We have zero information on 8.2 and won't for weeks
yes just like we got the free ayaka at ar42
Oh okay tysm
https://i.imgur.com/ulDYViZ.png still waiting for this
(for the unfamiliar, this was an early fake genshin leak)
Trust me guys
Sorce: hi3 leekcentral.moc
MOBIUS COME HOME FASTER PLEASE🙏🏼
||Oh right! She's iranian from what I know, can't believe I forgot her
||
Afaik her grandma was arabic but Sus is Irish isn't she?
||And Laylah is a martian||
||And I'm an earthian||

||It's never explicitly stated, but her last name is Irish||
||Unless Mihoyo goofed translating it||

||shes from Iran? I thought she was Arab?||
||She said something about her grandma being arabic afaik||
||Her last name is Irish, but maybe it's a mistranslated version of an Arabic one||
||Mihoyo's translation team is pretty kekw||
||And Laylah isn't anywhere from Earth for sure she predates Earth and even Venus by a lot||
what is this? i only see black bars 
||My guess is they mean "leylah might be middle eastern" as middle eastern inspired; like how Thelema is inspired by (just guessing) northern european styles - she's not literally european||
Maybe? But I can't really see the connection either way
||Is she? She looked more Arabic to me tbh
||
||join us and become a black bar ||

Tho tbf if she is Persian I couldn't really tell (well aside from her name I guess) since for some reason hoyo loves to slap belly dancer outfit on both female Persian inspired character they designed
assuming if she is Persian
hoyo's never done good middle eastern rep and tbh they probably never will 
Yeah, because of the outfit and dancing style, she is persian
She is still middle eastern though, if that counts as anything
Or black/latino representation

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||fym predates
I need the next chapter to come faster||
we literally have a official timeline 
I thought you were bored
I'm both, just like you're both sad and happy 


tf many black boxes


damn ||all this story with leylah, seems like she'll be playable soon (pls hyv)||
- hoyo
- soon
pick one
i feel like we should get SSS ds before leylah
well ofc
i think she'll be playable mid 8.x
maybe august, 8.4-8.6 imo
cuz they have quite a few characters still on the p2 list
and nobody has gotten a 2nd suit in p2 yet
i think the first to get a 2nd suit will be goddess sena

?
literally alter Helia:
oh true her too
forgot she existed, but i dont honestly want her i think i'll just skip
dont think that helia will be playable, new helia should be different
doesnt feel like that helia leave good impression for player
boss fight, then playable, is a pretty goot pattern

the only evil character we got was HoV 
vita boss fight in 6.8 and then playable in 7.8 
not sure I'd even call HoV pure evil
Vindictive, sure, but she loved Bella, and Cecilia thought she could be reformed
more of a "True Neutral" if anything
Tbh Vita in MA (i assume it's the sea salt one)..fight a bit different than vita post phosphorus
Arrow strike vs robot punch 
HoV literally wanted to wipe out humanity
Nothing should stop them making both vita as S rank, but i guess it's not that different
thats like the definition of evil
Being vengeful dont excuse them to be evil
So yea id say HoV's evil
I mean she did get worse treatment by humanity, but idt that what alignment is
eh, it's rough
it's more "vengeful" than "evil"
Sirin probably didn't want to harm the Sugars, or the ELF's, etc
just the people who hurt her
...who were everyone she knew, but still
New people? Not getting beat up in a scientific jail-cell every day for years?
Would probably be okay... protective, even
"Humans" were her target, not "Human Spirit," "Joy," "Making nice rice cakes out of discount cheese"
That's kinda Flamescion's whole point
"Sirin" was suffering
"Kiana++" was the core of goodness in there
Pure evil might be too much for HoV tho
Evil is enuf
Hmm what should count as pure evil in this game anyway
Genocide is still genocide 
HoDom ?
That was a gestalt self-reinforcing engine of pain and suffering to bring about - not nothing, but worse than nothing. Just sadness.
also the writers /s
quick genocide is less mean than slow genocide
Sirin/ HoV just wanted to kill people so she could have noodles and take a nap
she'd pesticide an anthill... maybe even pour molten metal in a live anthill, to see the structure and watch them die
||(ants are awful, ok? They ate my feet when I was little)||
Sirin certainly wouldn't mix lead with just enough sugar for the ants to eat a little while held in place until they starve...
Tbh this make sense, atp people merge with HoDom they're nothing but vengeance
Sure maybe it's less 'mean' but it's still genocide
You're still permanently ending the lives of people who did nothing to you
Also sirin turned into Kiana (kinda, or that her remnant awaken k423). So it's...kinda implied she has goodness inside
It's just human did it worse to her, the kind girl is buried deep inside
Also i wont correlate "damage" to "alignment". If pure evil have brains they would say...enslave humanity or even make a good public face
basically otto without lore lol
like, Otto: Bad
past Otto, pre-Kallen: Remarkably ok. Nicely horrified at everything Otto did. And then Otto killed him. Figuratively and literally.
Like, I would suggest, Anna was "more evil (malevolent)" than Sirin
She abandoned the people she was there to save in the middle of a crisis she was explicitly trained for.
But Sirin was more effective
And Anna still had a hint of goodness in her, so she was only a little south of Neutral
HoV was more understandable
the other helia is more of shocked value
Since the hooded girl .....can be a mars computer calculation her alignment could be questionable as well
Did she even understand whatever she remembers? Just like do AI like gpt actually understand what they're saying?
Hellya has only had a chapter
that I personally don't want to play until the arc is done and Coralie is back with a giant robot
Sirin/ HoV had multiple chapters of buildup, sympathy, and backup value
hell, my current Wild Mass Guessing/ Epileptic Trees, is that Robo-Helia is good/ Lawful Neutral, but thinks that, every universe a Helia lives, Coralie dies, therefore Hell-1A must kill "all Helias" to save "any Coralie"
tbh i just wanna the arc to end, but mars seems to have depths to explore
Tho would be nice to have a whole 0.5 part to be just p1 valks
But i guess their arc ends so yea up to hoyo
Exploring Mars would be cool
Lamenting Mars? Not so much
all this drama is reminding me why I don't watch tv ffs
||dang it, Joss, why'd you kill Anya in the last episode just to make a weird comic book?||
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[CN Story] I want her wait
What would be the stats?
wdym
What typing and element do you think she might have if she’s made playable?
i cant see her being bio tbh
if shes even playable. hoping she is because she is VERY beautiful
I was thinking bio phy or bio lightning
I mean, horb is psy
Or psy phy

glad we all agree shes phys lol
True
She looks phy tbh
i like her being psy
No more types please!
Blonde- lightning
Sky Dragon- Mei- lightning
Star- Stardust
Chocolate- Punchy
she looks more like phys than anything else
she has one of those designs where you can just tell shes a phys character
she seems to understand tho
@languid grotto i'm not an expert on the matter honestly but this seems to be the biggest thing about teri op https://i.imgur.com/gDQN6L4.png
more details in pins ofc
yes it is
makes her almost a necessity for LoA
crazy how good that is
be mindful of how needed you make it sound
topscore ma and retain nirv sure
also shes like weirdly tailored for dudu
Something can be extremely huge but may still be not actually required
shes bigger for dudu than kiana rn
Similar heights think alike
she is very big as it stands
a great pickup for any acc and you only need S, she'll be a mainstay on LoA teams
this, ss sera big for ely, but i rly doubt its needed for most ppl
shes also a big asop for vita but that's whel territory cuz she needs SS to be good for vita
i think that this is debatable
me and sairaan were just talking ab this
o
ely is so SO reliant that SS sera/songque will be very strongly desirable for her
she is even more reliant than JDS, and her damage and utility outside of SO is worse than JDS's
DS is going to be far behind sera/songque, iirc on kasumi DS was like 50-70 pts behind sera and songque was abt 10pts behind sera
DS is doable in RL for sure
but for RL people won't have it too or if they do, it's common for them to fall in execution too
well def more than 50 points diff, but the issue is ur bracket most likely not gonna have ss sera as well
but idk
it really depends on bracket
you could actually -100 or get very close to it wirh DS
RL brackets tend to be sweatier at least in NA because its pretty hard to retain nirv rn
basically you need to myriad to retain
and even sometimes in myriad you demote
why did my vita dps came in first in the previous sirin abyss lol
but yeah myriad brackets are quite common in NA nirv now it's kinda ridiculous
thats the thing with RL brackets
my bracket had an SSS sirin, SS HoTr and SS+3 sparkle with 4* kia
they are totally unpredictable
yeah they're very volatile overall
songque should be f2p accessible in spending events soon though
soon™️
S song should be better than SS DS
yes
Soon as in, half a year 
If she even comes
nah probably next major spending event
and if not then the next mini one after that
not happening
no
Next major one should be in cn anniv which is in august or september(idr), which is half a year
kiaelf, PB were just as groundbreaking as songque and sera. and guess what, they were in spending events within 4 patches
i mean pb wasnt rly groundbreaking tho
elfs and aops cost isn't the same
yup
those elfs are a bit weird to consider since they happened at the end of p1
as per usual don't bank on it but keep it in mind for now, sure
you might want to look more at fuxi/selune/etc elf instead
i don't feel they became that much more accessible even when later elf options came along (most i can remember was supply shop)
yea
the way i see it, songque still has her top meta places
until they make something that clearly obsoletes those, i don't expect her to become too freely available
they acted similarly for HoS when people were banking on her to show up in following bp trends
meanwhile they went ham with SW when she was going out of style lol
does AO has fragment?
no
i guess they could replace the valk in spending
still be too soon imo
40k, more than elf iirc
no they have chip thing
it will be funny if we have no reason to consider SSS DS by the time they arrive
and we'll probably gonna have only 1 for every dedicated astral ring, since we're still missing 8 more. unlike Elfs that powercreep older elfs like kiana > sirin, kiana > klein, pb > dudu, etc
1 ao aint cover everything, f2p is still far behind
yes
no clue only ice seen so far
i like how good hohe is as it stands
she's gonna topscore any ice stages that does not have bio enemies and needed ss0+ ss sera and thelema
i still don't like her gameplay
her animations are a little less fluid than i'd like but i still like her
Yea
nirv yea
Can someone remind me how much better is S teriAop than SS DS for S0 vita dps
not much better
well probably a lot better actually
idk the numbers tho last i heard S teri was pretty bad for vita and she wanted SS
ew
Hmmm
Is S teriAop good enough for LoA then
yes great for LoA
Not all teams
as long as she works better than ss ds
shit boss
how to play
no 
elete gaem ez
Delete boss tks

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what scam
europe not getting artbook ?
no info
Eos
8.2 trust me guys
dawei ill pay ur import tax, pls i beg
Eos
10.0 
wow wild chesches 
no rotation demoot to agni
Sparkless
516
ios too skill issue
dead
all their skill into flexing device

they never promise that on every year there is a free merchandise
how can its called scammed, its just because that every year before it always there and people got their mindset that the free merchandise was a promised thing, it was never

Give me artbook or cabbage soup
but they did say this
no artbook = not the same level as previous year 
no matter how you see it, the consistency is broken already 
they could've gone with less artbook instead of no artbook 
2 books for next anni trust 
consistent in terms of in-game resources.
not refering to merch.
merch rewards is count as a very special rewards, especially if take a look on hi3 revenue compared to hsr and genshin, its really far different, but they still gave free merch and want to proceed it for us, they dont even did a same thing on hsr and genshin even tho its had a very high revenue
its still a fact they never promised a free merch on every single year, it was there after some years of HI3, not from a first year, so its normal if the merch was absent from anniv reward for this year
especially after massive hates to hi3 after part 2, part 2 literally makes gacha cost being more cheaper which is also makes hi3 revenue going down very clearly, we dont even have any right to complain for free merch
also this is the point, its a very different kind of reward
idc about artbook bc they don't ship to my country anyway


they still gave a constant in game resource rewards every years and even gave more its still really a blessing
that 2 times raffle was also only global that got it, while cn only got 1 raffle
Next glb anniv trust
artbook in glb eos
I think people joking about eos should get their account eos
they didn't say anything about ingame reward or merc
all i see is that the level of reward isn't consistent 
"its still a fact they never promised a free merch on every single year, it was there after some years of HI3, not from a first year, so its normal if the merch was absent from anniv reward for this year"
they promised that the lv of reward stay consistent and it isn't so 
not like i can do anything about that, just saying

in fact, they never post about benefits including merch, they always post a separate post about merch

"it was there after some years of HI3, not from a first year, so its normal if the merch was absent from anniv reward for this year"
its just we cant complain about that since cn was the server that gave the most revenue for them
if im the dev, i also will do that
pretty sure they did include it in the last version preview that had the book
Yup
they also did a separate post, but the book was included in the version preview
And their discord acc eos


to gave the same reward for server that complain and hate so much but didnt even gave that much revenue, its kinda
#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
And this in the event preview
I wont complain either way, its not like the artbook is the reason im playing the game

But I do admit im jealous, I'd like one more memory of the game irl
i will complain but not that i will quit because of that, pretty sure many will however 
its really like a bonus, im the one that got arclic and snack reward before the merch reward changes to artbook, and im myself prefer the arclyc than a artbook, but i cant complain about it because its literally a free rewards
to see that they still gave abundance of ingame resource rewards still a very blessing from them to this server
if they gave it, then we appreciated it, if not, as long as they still gave reward resource in game its still good
now i saw that how genshin treat the player was really a better way than what honkai do to treat its players, so people didnt expect anything
complaining for a free thing is really doesnt make sense for me, especially its a merch that need so much thing to do for delivering it, packing, shipment, and other things
You stopped making sense when you mentioned the g game
not sure about that, ppl do expect more from genshin but they just didnt do anything

and that makes people stop expecting something
nope, ppl still expect more, that's why they changed
if no one keep expecting, why change?
glblul
in the first you said that they didnt do anything, and now you said that they changed
some of my friend that play genshin still feel its the same, not that much different
beside of that all, complaining so much for a free fvqng merch rewards is still not something makes sense for me
Link: https://youtu.be/3522hyMaQmQ NAHLA?! First Appearance! LEYLAH Sister? (Full Conversation) Honkai Impact 3rd v8.1
Do they even read or listen who is talking? 
Or maybe they are just using mtl.
And that's not full convo either.
lol
they didnt do anything, but they did change after dawei's speech, the phrase genshin could never basically dead since then, 2 things happened in the past, not hard to understand
they didnt do anything for the first few years, ppl keep complaining every year, they changed like last year, i dont say they change everything btw
They don't speak Chinese

for every overseas server
below me
then i will make what i said more detail to be easier to understand
what i mean from treating honkai players like what genshin do to its players before dawei speech
and the point was still on merch rewards, to be complaining after all the years that passed and merch was there and they do it to show their love to their player even tho their revenue wasnt that high as genshin and hsr, but then got hated so much and complained just because its absent for this year, its really such a thing

they literally able to create a same event on hsr and genshin, but no, its still only on Honkai
for me, it's about the message, if they said no merc and no one get it, i wont say anything
but they didnt and CNonly GLBlul, it gives a bad taste to me 
From the scenes not the text (due to very little translations) of 7 EX Leylah and Homura keep looking more similar to each other
Hi3 give us a Madoka magica cross over these purple ladies need a grief support group together
that's just pasting MTL
Wondering also, also hi bro 

Guys I'm a returnee my only astral s ranks are thelema and sena, what should I pull next patch ? I also have HoHe
I can only get 1 character + 1 weapon
how many xtals you got
and pity
mother trucker i just got a 4 star weapon from dorm
16k 60 pity chara 50 weapon, I still have a lot of first time rewards tho maybe like 2k more ? And I can unlock new er chara every week
hmm
do discounted 10x on valk first but I don't even think thats enough for valk + wep
might be better to just pull ely dkey since u own her
It's prob enough with bonuses no
There's 15 valk cards
And 5 gear
Wait 10 valk 10 gear I'm blind
Oh wait 5 of the valk cards are only for the rotating banner
Whatever we gamble
Hypothetically if I can get 1 valk and 1 weapon tho who should it be
thank god spopo is gone now i cant think of pulling her
Wait no I'm stupid there's 10+5 valk cards
I heard vita is the yearly broken herrscher level valk but I don't have hofi
hofi lets her be dps, but main thing is she can be slotted into a lot of teams, making her quite good for people starting with nothing
Can I get through Ely bosses with thelema
as in not pulling ely dk/not using ely and just use thel dps instead or what?
well you prob can, promoting/retaining is diff story

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"all s0+1" 
one year in and we have 2 dks
just 2 or more yrs and we will have 1600 atk at s0 fr
yea
cuz its not the magician one right
they purposely changed it or something
they just changed his mech a bit
i see
btw is waxing moon and the ely dk ,神之键 or 星之键, cuz if ifs the latter then technically dk is wrong no, whats the actual name
i forgot
神之键 is divine key
星之键 is stellar key aka p2 dk
ah ok
true
More chance to have HoRb with DK
horber in 2025
Horber
Nah I'm serious, there is more chances to get either LV or HoRb DK rather than Vill-V Mars kekw
How about 7t
BP OwO

I just got 7T btw
@copper shale how to improve?
why u ask me, u the dalao here

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and this too
tho do u have teri

teribait
when is the new chapter coming to glb?
feb 20
not feb 20
march 6th
march 7th
jine 28th
actually its march 20th
chat is there any gameplay for hohe dkey in elysian realm yet
someone who talks in this chat had their own gameplay footage of it but i dont recall who
its the exact same concept as SO songque
thank you
Chat if I have 5.5k xtals rn
How are my chances for Vita skin and Kiana looking
Am I gonna have to buy the returnee pack and monthly
Am I cooked
Should I have not procrastinated and started saving during Sparkle's patch

honestly that's not enough for either unless you get giga lucky
the freebies can help you at least get enough for vita skin but nothing to say for kiana
you really should start grinding what you didn't finish that gives crystals, but i doubt that you'll have enough for both unless again you get very lucky
Whaling it is
Get another 4.1k and u have enough for vita skin
Rest? Whale

I'm at like half Valk pity
And like 40 from wep pity
So maybe it's enough with the returnee pack and a monthly
Vita once more on top 100
Probably
I don't understand Dudu
Basically everyone using Spring Kiana + VIta + Sparkle except top 3 who have high rank dudu
is the smol dudu needed for kiana
no
who replaces her
Sparkle
In most situations you will run 2 out of Vita, Sparkle and Songque.
Ely and Dudu also work.
Get vita skin and save for kiana rerun if you can't get weap and battlesuit
A skin is just a skin, go for kiana if you want something more useful to your account
noted that
will she fir in my team doe
that has kiana and sparkle
Lilywhel
Sparkle is really good for kiana, do you have songque or vita?
Where quasonk
Sd detonation doko 
wait wrong one, vita and sparkle, just woke up so my brain dosent function well
SD detonation on Homu 
thanks hua

Didn't see homu
Sd homu when

SD Homei 8.2 
Nah i'd win
When vita rerun?
9 week patch it is
now activated

wow kappa
"happy days ahead" ones that she wont be able to see 
Whos the new valk?
8.1? Kiana, 8.2? We dont know
Kurowhel valk
kurowhel valk

Question for folks who’ve paid more attention to pre-release/concept stuff than me. Have they ever like…fixed a character’s physical features?
I ask because I saw Nahala(I think that’s her name)‘s design and found it weird that they made her that ashy grey/brown color that gacha games love to do to us. Meanwhile Lewis is actually brown. So I wonder if there’s a chance maybe that’ll get fixed.
not like it's something that need to be fixed, just preference
the only thing i remember was them nerfing the size of ely's ass, but ur asking for is quite unlikely
iirc, they changed the twin clothes
not really changing, just put more cover on them
yea its like small model changes or w/e
I mean…it’s not really a “preference” and more that it seems weird to make the brown person ashy grey/brown rather than actually brown.
Like, I definitely noticed that they portrayed Lewis as being “ugly” and brown. But they made the beautiful woman ashy brown, which is something black players like myself often take issue with when it comes up in media. Definitely gives me a bit of a weird vibe.
So I was just wondering if there’s any chance of that getting fixed. If not, I guess that’s unfortunate.
well ig u have to call dawei or something
but do we know what is her real color to fix?
Because brown people aren’t ashy brown.
Like I said, they made Lewis brown, and they very purposely portrayed her as if she was unattractive. So when they made an “attractive” brown person, they weirdly decided to do the typical “ashy grey/brown” thing we see often.
But like I said, I was just curious to know if there was any chance of that getting fixed. That’s all.
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As someone who's black, I think Nahala's skin looks perfectly fine
But that's just me
And as someone else who’s black, I’m annoyed with the fact that 99% of the time when a non-white person appears in a gacha game, they’re insanely light skinned or ashy grey/brown.
well if its a real problem with u, u either try to talk to dawei about it or there's nothing else u can do
But it’s whatever, I was just curious. Seems like their distaste for black people means we’re getting the ashy grey skin and I’m somehow the weirdo for not being into that. Got my questions answered. So I’m done asking about it.
i think tis personal pref thats it, so yea, its not weird for having ur own prefs.
unless big chunk of the playerbase want to change, it wont get "fixed"
just like genshin boycott 
Caywhel
Donate pls

where
||Nahala isn't even from Earth dawg she's an alien||
whatever makes you uncomfy as an Earthling maybe just issue it to wherever she came from lmao
Mihoyo changes a lot of things but the chances they change Nahara's skin are near zero
You'd have to get CN complaining
And I don't think they care
The few times when they change things are when CN complains or they're forced to because of regulations
Like when almost all of the Valks' underwear was changed to safety pants because Mihoyo got snitched on to the CCP
And again it wouldn't be the first time non-CN people complain about skin color, and like the last time it'd just end in complete silence lmao
hey, so what in the new 8.1 is worth getting and how much xtals do i need to save in oder to do so ?
75k
www... what? okay and what exactly is worth getting?
oh and another question... does "spending" event mean spending money or spending xtals?
Spending crystals
44.8k crystal for HoRB card
Freebies contribute around 11k crystals so you actually just need around ~30k
okay 30k is managable... but HoRB?... like... seele?
okaaaay... i'm confused, she gets a re-run? new gear or so? because i already have her and ... most of her gear
I wouldn't roll HoRb gear btw
No, this is from spending shop.
If you're asking what is worth to pull in 8.1, just badum kiana, and maybe hoh divine key
She might get a DK
She's just in spending event meaning you can get her for 44,8k crystals spend. There is a possibility she will get a dkey but that's just speculation rn
ah okay yes thats what i was curious about
yeah pulling her seems pointless now, also i have most of her already, only missing one stigma
okay so... math... i have a 25 pity on battlesuits, so that's good for getting badum kiana, then i assume her equipment is the usual... what was it... 50 pity? to get the weapon? and the rest can be bought in a shop?
and HoH "only" get's divine key or also like Senti a new Stigma set?
All p2 stigmatas are craftable. She gets both but you only need to pull the weapon although it's very common to get the full set while pulling the weapon
And it's 60 for weapon guarantee
60
She gets Stigma too but it's craftable
okay... and HoH? does she get new stigmas or only the weapon?
So you need 60+60+25 at worst
As I said both
oh and i saw Theresa Astral Op, she's not worth it i assume?
Teri asop is really good for Law of Ascension valks
and those would be ...?
So there are two paths
- Pull Badum and HoH divine key
- Pull Badum and Teri asop
Kiana and dudu probably more to come in future
ah... well then i'll probably go the divine key path.
Only these for now, but more will be released in the future
don't have dudu
so then 60 + 60 + 25 - 5 (50% off the first 10 pulls) = 140
now the last question: it's global anniversary right so i assume you get LOTS of gifts?
.
ah perfect.
damn not enough... i wanted to see if i can pull for Fenghuan but it doesn't suffice then :/ nooooo!
then let me add one more question: i have her almost completed but i'm missing the M stigma, how important is that?
You lose around 20% dmg compared to full set, but it's still better than G4 Joys
meh... i substituted it with lantern M stigma for now but it's itching me to get M too
i'm really glad they changed the whole stigma process. getting like 80% garbage stigmas and then missing the one you're actually pulling for is painfull.

Should I save these green orb for 8.1 or use to buy the dkey rn ?
Yes Divine Key is good
How many pulls do you predict we can receive in total during the entirety of kiana's banner?
Thanks a ton! 
9 weeks or 6 weeks...?
9
You forgot 3. Get all of these 



yes
How good is helysia as a suport?
mid tier for WoD, good alternative for LoA from what i heard
she does have that locked tag but i wont expect much from that
What about a team with let s say songque as leader and vita in the other slot or even a suprot for RoO
I don t have that many crystals and if the free pull with the cards won t give me kiana i m going for the dkeys
she can't support RoO
Only WoD?
she can support WoD, LoA and future ??? ring
Man game is really making me suffer for not getting thelema
But oh well hopefully hely + HoO and vita team > kiana badum tss

Cn only forever probably
Right?
ah ok, thank you Moriso
Kiana s dkey is so fun to use and i m salty i was 7 pulls away to get it
2 books next year for glb trust
I even have SS HoO ready to go and use her amazing power to earn me some score
it got delayed till next year 

We dont even get the scraps
yeah but get double raffle
and get nothing 
||i got knight bp card||
Is take book over everything except figure
||anyone here that can confirm if sena raised leylah?||
ask #📚honkai-lore
That's non cn tho?
Should I mention that it's cn?
u need to use spoiler tag
Okay

#cnonly #glbul
Still 7 more weeks to go
1 year anniversary kek
Ded
Are all updates going to be 9 weeks from 8.1 onwards?
nobody knows
I have 13 pity. Should I get Kiana or use it on Leila 👀
Do valks ever take off obstructive gear? Like would fuhua there ever just take off her sharp nails if they get annoying?
who the frick is leila
Leylah?
it's leylah
and she's not out yet
oh kek
i know another scenario she takes off the na-
banned
that's technically part of her body transformation
turned into blaziken for real
basically if this was the final boss, fov is the final boss after you unlock her as a playable character
all p2s are recommended for "development" instead of "investment"

Vita too?
i just checked some more and it seems not all do
for example songque is recommended for investment
weirdge
vita says investment too kek
recommended for character development
fitting for coralie
developer coralie 
💀
kr nirvana D is the same as ios now
im finnaly getting a job and my first thought was i can get every honkai impact character i want now
am i cooked chat
yes
yes start working and pay mhy's taxes
cooked whale 
I miss this GOAT design
I did the same thing


so uhh... there is no new story chapter in 8.1?
7EX
thanks
they really tried selling that FoV team 😭 coralie was so ass, i remember we were theorizing she'd replace CN
toto butt

bro casually carrying [redacted] on her head
Casually carrying Hoshi on her head
real
literally same color palette
【假如我拿出这把羽渡尘,阁下又该如何应对-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/L8NTiLN
that team seems a bit weird
is for fun
dreams of wanting ae to be dps

Need some shieldbreak
yea but no options for it
paga M CN 
true 
lose roughly 10-15% dmg on actual hp, gain 50% on shields
u dont gain that much more tho do u
ur basically comparing conditional 50% tdm vs unconditional 35% enemy taken
so u also prob lose more on actual hp
ai chan prob also deals a decent amount of dmg too
but anyways i was thinking more of valks itself than stigmatas

the 50% is independent as you don't have any shield dmg in the team, the 35% taken isn't and is diluted in all the other taken
i used to think its independent as well, but reading into dmg formulas changed my mind cuz for elemental section there isn't a shield multiplier for it, maybe it was too old
it's a separate mult
yea i see it for phys but not for elemental, maybe i should've doubted wiki more
It's pretty easy to test out for yourself on next Kasumi if you have Pag M
i do yea
Remove all stigs from one of your supps, do a normal rot and check dmg
Then put Pag M and do the same thing
Second one should be 50% higher numbers
As long as you don't have another source of shield dmg already
because then it's diluted 
yea, just wondering why the guy didnt test the rot with paga, cuz it seemed like he woulda been malding for couple hrs, maybe just forgot ig
doesn't look like an hours spent thing tbh
that's probably a one try and done kinda deal 
well his description does seem
cuz he siad he been malding to work on the timing for ae evade for the 35% tdm shield

cuz he had a vid before this and it was a day before this vid , but slightly worse score and diff rotation 
they forgot it existed idk 
shit boss fr
what's the best team for homu
wats the myraids like 


wats the biggest gap between non sparkle and sparkle u see

most ppl use sparkle vita
i wonder for s0 ppl if the d will cause bigger gap
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UTNheTEdA/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9
for s0 apparenlt same score
but maybe diff for non ios
t10 kek
Tho it also looks like they didn't do a single fast ult on AE
so they're prolly just not that great of a player 

demoot time
I saw that a new Kiana is coming, from what people have seen is she really good (not saying a must pull but a good addition to my valks)?
I was planning on pulling for Songque but I kind of liked new kianas gameplay
well u noramlly dont backpull so yea, be better to pull kiana instead of songque, songque is big for kiana for dealing with sd enemies but it is wat it is
Yeah I know but Songque looked like a good unit from what ive seen and... she is beautiful
Thanks for the advice btw
ill just pull for kiana atp, i dont have much savings
she is good unit, just f2p/light spender income makes backpulling bad
ahh, gotcha
no teriop demoot to agni
too competitive
fund teriop for clear skin ples


i am SO happy to skip it
why its so beautiful
Because it's Vita 
because it's ugly
they murdered the star traveler
lmao
I didn't think it was possible to mess up a mech's design but here we are

even the ugly mechas I've seen until now have just been "meh" at worst, but the skin ver is just offensive
hoping she gets a 4* skin soon that will at most change the colors
do not let them cook again
give Sa as a skin ala HoC Ely ktyx
vitaskeen in 2025
fund me moni tks
Random question… but does SIMP have a special voice line for stellar outburst when using the Theresa aOP? I know JD has a unique line for the Songque aOP
My cn acc doesn't have simp 
Yah she got skipped a lot…
【德丽莎协同者开星之环语音,主教德不准睡觉德下班-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/JGktLrc
I’m pretty sure bilibili is restricted where I live
oh no
What Vita's skin is really nice
It's not ugly at all
And the Star Traveler doesn't look bad at all
Vita haters just hate
outfit good, mech bad
i think full s0+1 gets u like 730
Definitely more, got 740 coping with Ely supp
with dudu?
Yeah
Yeah, have account on both,
But no Dudu and Spork on Bili


I think they both look nice
just be lucky and do 5 pulls
Vita outfit is really good imo
I would 100% get it if it was released this patch or in 8.2
if i can get the divine key early i might go for that Vita skin
everyone has teriop 
🐳
Bc Teri is eternal 
a patch usually lasts 6 weeks right?
Anyone whose been saving for 2 or 3 patches can get her, not even whale
Yes, 8.1 last 9 weeks
yeah i was about to mention that lol
when was the last time a patch lasted that long?
Songque is mandatory only for SD content. Congrats, because the rest of the time, you litterally have the BiS Team : Sparkle + Vita
Last year, launch of Part 2
But it was 7 or 8 weeks
Not 9
The main banner and Teri's AOP banner last 6 weeks
nice!
Be cautious bc Ely's DK banner only last 2 weeks
If you want to pull for her
yeah im probably going to roll for Elys DK first before i roll for anything else
Just hope your Ely has high rank for the DPS
Otherwise, she can still be useful for support
nope mine is only S0
Deadge DPS

Support it is
I almost have enough to go for Kiana + DK
I hope I'll have enough to go for AOP during the patch
how many rolls do you have if you dont mind me asking?
i have 24k and around 3 cards
I have something like 170-180ish pulls, but since I saved my 27 chara pulls and 10 gear pulls and that they give some of them, I'll have enough to pull DK + Kiana
I have 42kish crystals currently with 27 char cards and 10 gear cards
nice!
I missed only a day of login so far since the beginning of the patch
by the time 8.1 arrives and actually ends you should have enough crystals for the dkey and kiana
I have been calculating so yes indeed I know I'll have enough
Now the thing is, what is it going to be for 8.2 and if I should get Teri AoP
i was wondering about that too
although i dont think i will be able to get kiana early so i probably wont even have enough rolls for that
who's the better sparkle replacement between hohe and songque 
isnt songque really good cuz she synergizes with Dudu's physical and Kiana's stardust?
thats pretty surface level tho so i wouldnt know
HoHe can be used, even more since there will be a Symphony weather
Another good option is with Songque, Dudu also works
i know they're all good options but which is usually better 
i only have abt 50 pulls rn, since hohe dkey only lasts a third of badum, should i get hohe dkey first?
i just want the key cuz i dont have human:ego to be benched
i just enjoy wheel of destiny
ive never touched hohe (other than trials) before she was given for free lol
so itd be great to actually be able to use her xd
i got s1 on like my first day and then she was benched ever since too 
i really like part 2.
a lot of games arent ballsy enough to give their characters so much longevity like the way part 2 characters do
i love how i can shove most of these characters randomly in a team, they'll work
Depends on what you have but Kiana will be a better investment
Overall
But DK also gives you a permanent ATK boost to all of the valks you have
im on 15 pity to char so ill prob get her in 1.4k xtals lol
so im mainly gonna farm for hohe dkey and badum gear
given the freebies and length of banner i should be able to get both, but idk how long it'll take to get the second wpn
It's 280 for a pull, more likely 4,2k
All gears released in P2 is 60 pity at max
Since you can also craft the stigs
And also give you a free sitg of each chara
1st 10 pull is 50% discount right
its techinically 140 for a pull with the initial half off 🤓
Only for character
yea
yea thats what they mean
But if you saved enough for char, you're good
Now the problem is DK since it last only2 weeks
Either hardcore grind or whale
For weap
or you get key first
You can still craft stigs afterwards
thats what i was thinkin
thatw what im doin
Get DK if you can, stigs can be craft
Either way if you can't, go for Kiana






