🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[fervent hinge]

And if that's nice to me then I'll pull Teri op

[shrewd socket]

nyx is ice-

[atomic coral]

ron has nothing else

luna is - 50%

[fervent hinge]

Oh I meant songque astralop did you mean the valk

I have the valk

The valk was lowkey a waste until LoA came out

[ember locust]

I meant the valk indeed

[fervent hinge]

Ye I heard kiana can't even collapse sd enemies lool

Ezskip

[shrewd socket]

atp why am i pulling

[ember locust]

Hoyo on their way to waste every single spending event since 7.3

[copper shale]

she has sena kit

[ember locust]

Sena but more adapted to current era

[fervent hinge]

That's great news I hate playing sena

Easiest skip of my entire life

[shrewd socket]

HoRb stamps are useless
HoH needs SS Sera so investing on her is also useless

[fervent hinge]

I'll get 3★ PB probably

[copper shale]

well, as in, her main battlefield is mobs, with her chain, but she does feel better to play vs sena, because her skill ranges are much bigger than sena

[shrewd socket]

elfs even more useless

[ember locust]

Well HoRb might get a DK though... But yeah

[abstract night]

SS HoRb tho :(

[fervent hinge]

I'll just get stamps elsewhere later

[shrewd socket]

that's just copium

[abstract night]

Tsk tsk tsk

[fervent hinge]

I'm already S3

They'll probably put her stamps in ER at some point anyway

[abstract night]

probably

[fervent hinge]

Or maybe they won't but surely they appear in stardust shop for example

[pseudo trellis]

💀

[fervent hinge]

ELFs nah spending event is my only chance

[abstract night]

I suppose

[pseudo trellis]

0/4 TA is the Deal Breaker

[ember locust]

Tbh they're just trying to get rid of P1

[fervent hinge]

How can my HoV clear this ezpz jn nirv and your SN can't in Ag noob

Just hit harder

[shrewd socket]

they should have done it sooner

[pseudo trellis]

gimme 4/4 gear

[shrewd socket]

instead of making ppl think P1 still has value

[atomic coral]

bring out the no gear fov

[fervent hinge]

Nu

[pseudo trellis]

No Stigmata FoV?

[shrewd socket]

make HoV completely useless in mob stages so Lyo quits-

[pseudo trellis]

maybe that might work

[fervent hinge]

I mean

It'll literally take another 5 years before HoV won't clear redlotus

Redlotus is a pisspark

[ember locust]

Welp only plan, bc seeing her gear once, there is almost no way that HoRb is going to the BP since she's not even there in the first place... Only her gear

[mild owl]

what is a pisspark

[fervent hinge]

Worst case scenario I can do 20 pulls on an ADV if it looks like stamps won't show up anywhere

[pseudo trellis]

maybe getting my SN SSS will change everything

[fervent hinge]

Surely

[shrewd socket]

idk i suddenly feel lost

[ember locust]

More like... They made P1's reneweal way shittier than P2 like WTF...

Either you try to be friendly and put them on equal foot, or let them die

Like

Hoyo, it's not f*cking complicated to be friendly between both types of players

[shrewd socket]

just let P1 die

is not that hard

there was no reason to make starless

or stellar keys either

[fervent hinge]

Why should p1 characters be on equal footing anyway when there won't be more of them

[shrewd socket]

^

[fervent hinge]

That's like getting mad over goushinnso memento not topscoring ice heph

They'll get phased out like every other character did

[shrewd socket]

if they were equal it'd make P2 suck outside SO (which it does already but it'd be worse)

[fervent hinge]

They keep "buffing" p1 to cater to p1 team players anyway such as dudu buffing p1 phys, sparkle buffing p1 fire, teri buffing p1 lightning, not to mention starless weather

So they already have measures in place to let p1 teams last a bit longer

Be grateful for that tbh

[shrewd socket]

no

[ember locust]

I am grateful for it but the process is litterally b*llshit

[shrewd socket]

i don't wanna see a SSS MPE in my bracket again

[junior nova]

When honkai gets older it'll have better p2 valks and battlesuits that'll cater nicely to people

It's just a patient process

[ember locust]

Either you try to get and keep both P1 and P2 valks and in that case you try to truely equalize things or try to "EZA" (as I would call) every single recent S battlesuits of P1, either you don't do this kind of sh*t and less P1 die peacefully

Not like putting P1 supports in P2 valks

But buffing them (P1 valks) directly like they have done it with HoO and HoTr

[fervent hinge]

The only thing I have to complain about really is that p2 had such a terrible launch both in regards to poor marketing (it didn't really bring that many players at all, and certainly didn't retain them) and poor performance, sena had a lot off issues, the entire game started tanking fps with the release of p2, etc.

[shrewd socket]

ppl just like P1 bc their fav character doesn't have a P2 battlesuit yet

[abstract night]

What the fuck! Dude why not?? I literally SSSed her for that reason
And 23x6- she has like 1000 atk with a lvl 65 pri but im sure its fine..can still clear.

[shrewd socket]

Sena being a paper wall is just skill issue

[fervent hinge]

I don't really care about this p2 vs p1 valks, what is really bugging me atm is that a lot of the competitive playerbase seems to have just vanished

You have to myriad to retain these days because the nirv playerbase is so fucking small

I'm having to pay more than I did when I got t1 myriad just to retain nirv and I don't want to anymore so I'm just leaving lol

[fervent hinge]

Sure xd

[abstract night]

She cant kill kevin..but like its not ice up so (when i use jk kira)

[ember locust]

Sena is quite a hole, in bith gameplay and lore

Quite litterally

💀💀💀

[copper shale]

i feel this too altho not exactly, sea is a bit better, not need to myriad to retain, but theres still too many myriads in my bracket

[ember locust]

Except that the lore is going better and that the battlesuit gameplay is f*cking terrible

[junior nova]

The lore is really good

It's a shame people don't give it a try

The newer p2 valkyries don't seem so bad though?

[shrewd socket]

i think that nowadays if a gacha is not genshin clone #835892+ ppl won't try it

[pseudo trellis]

oh wait 🤡

why she wearing this gear agasin

[shrewd socket]

and it disgust me

[ember locust]

For P2, that's mainly bc the playerbase wasn't that patient in the 1st place bc they were used to Kiana's stories with Mei, Bronya and the others... There is also a another problem, they excepted so much bc of nostalgia but also bc of how rushed P1.5 and the end of P1 felt

[pseudo trellis]

i wouldnt try any game related to genshin clone personally

[shrewd socket]

genshin clone as in gacha system

[ember locust]

Tbh I could agree

Making them both DPS and Support is a good idea to have a more F2P Friendly approach. The big problem is how they build their kits and how they design the gameplay sometimes

[shrewd socket]

most games after genshin repeat the 5050 bs

[ember locust]

Like... Thelema is a litteral banger, Vita is a banger, Songque is goochie but the problem is it's more complicared without AOP

Then you have Lantern's, Sparkle's and Senadina's horrifying gameplay

[pseudo trellis]

its what happens when a game set a standard for the western comuunity

im playing a different gacha game thats vpn locked to a region and it has none of that 50/50

because its vpn locked, almost nobody has heard of the game. not like itd be advertised anyways cause its in a foreign language

[ember locust]

Thank god that HI3rd doesn't that bs 50/50 too

Except in starter banner

Bc it would have just been the worse otherwise

[pseudo trellis]

it doesnt but the generosity isnt there

[shrewd socket]

didn't it get separated?

[ember locust]

The starter/beginner banner has a 50/50, the other banners doesn't have it

But the 50/50 is only through the valk beginner banner

[shrewd socket]

weird i thought it got splitted

[ember locust]

Bc the gear beginner banners are like the classical format

[fervent hinge]

Yeah p2 drove away a considerable amount of high end players

I have no idea about how many more casual players we have because we never fucking see the majority of them, they're too casual to even join here

[fervent hinge]

It got split

50/50 no longer a thing since this patch

[shrewd socket]

still skem tho

[fervent hinge]

Beginner banner is now 4 separate banners, sena, songque, sena gear, songque gear

[ember locust]

Oooh nice

[fervent hinge]

It'll be useful next patch actually

[shrewd socket]

no HoHE to use

[fervent hinge]

JD + New Kia for beginners will be a pretty nice combo to have but people who are doing that will be strongly recommended to reroll

[ember locust]

Can't blame them, the spikes of difficulty between AgoIII and RL and between RL and Nirvana are too much high

[fervent hinge]

For non f2p beginners (not the majority I know) she is in level rush

[ember locust]

Even though it's not too much of a deal in RL

[abstract night]

Songque 4/4
HoH 4/4 (if u buy level rush..?)
Kiana 4/4

[ember locust]

Level rush ?

[fervent hinge]

^^ this is the best case scenario for beginners

[fervent hinge]

Beginner bundle, costs like 600 bchips or smth and gives you HoH + a shit ton of crystals

[shrewd socket]

too much high as in too much for their brains to understand that they can't just pull whatever it has a face or

[ember locust]

Tbh yeah and that's not mentionning how Vita is rerunning at the same time (truth) and with Sparkle maybe having a run again along with Dudu (speculation)

[fervent hinge]

A3 and RL are not hard to reach as long as you make sensible pulling decisions, you don't even need sensible pulling decisions for A3 tbh you just need to know how to build a team

[fervent hinge]

Not sure if we'll recommend vita, depends on 8.2

[shrewd socket]

from my perspective a f2p beginner can't even pull Kiana

[fervent hinge]

Your perspective is wrong then

[ember locust]

Deadass, that's the thing, you have to pull almost everytime in this game, unless you're F2P

[fervent hinge]

Beginners can get 40k crystals in 4 weeks

[abstract night]

Her banners also 6 weeks

[shrewd socket]

not can't bc of lack of currency

[ember locust]

Her banner is 6 weeks long + patch is 9 weeks long

[shrewd socket]

can't bc no supps for her

[fervent hinge]

They're a beginner

[ember locust]

He meant to say for beginners

[abstract night]

Coralie (cope)
And songque if u reroll

[fervent hinge]

They don't have supports for anything

[shrewd socket]

have to reroll

[fervent hinge]

You have to start somewhere, might as well start with the most shilled valk

[shrewd socket]

i doubt most beginners want to reroll

[fervent hinge]

Yeah they don't need to

Just pull using the 40k crystals

[shrewd socket]

plays a gacha game
complains about having to use the game's main feature

that makes no sense

[abstract night]

Plus isnt there extra free pulls

[ember locust]

They both can

• Either you're new and you can do Abyss + ER and the whole story content + events

• Either you're a benjamin or a veteran and you do that + the events and save for 1 or 2 patches

[fervent hinge]

Yeah probably even more than usual thanks to cny

[ember locust]

^^

[fervent hinge]

Brand new players will 100% be recommended to pull Kiana and her weapon for weeks 1 and 2 at the very least

[ember locust]

Yes 10 of each

[abstract night]

So essentially

[ember locust]

Might be more for gears since we have bonus login in the end of 8.0 and the beginning of 8.1 @abstract night

[shrewd socket]

huh, so it only takes the will

[ember locust]

Like any gacha games, Miss

[abstract night]

80 50 (ba dum)
90 60 (songque)
170 110
275 pulls for all, assuming hard pity and the uh 10 thing (275 cuz kiana is a discount 10 pull)
Or sum like that

[ember locust]

My point was like if you want to follow meta, you have to pull almost every patch

And theorically I'm not really in the wrong

(Unless you're F2P as I said)

[shrewd socket]

i could pull every patch if i didn't fuck up my strat by pulling HoRb outfit

[gleaming imp]

Just skip and pray your valks can retain

I'm gonna be thriving in 8.1, pulling 4/4 kiana and Ely and hofin adv and eepy teri weapon

[grand viper]

horb outfit is worth it though

[shrewd socket]

it's not

i wish i could refund it

give me my wasted 9.6k back

[grand viper]

[shrewd socket]

i don't have every P2 S rank bc of it

[grand viper]

neither do I

and you don't need every p2 S rank

[shrewd socket]

i do

[grand viper]

why though ?

[gleaming imp]

True example a account without lamp will be fine and not notice a difference

[shrewd socket]

no fire coverage bc lack of lamp as well no crit rate for JDS

can't play Luna bc no teri

[gleaming imp]

Lamp bad though

[grand viper]

lampbait and teribait, you aren't losing out on much

[shrewd socket]

and now can't cover IMG and LoA bc no dudu and sparkle

[shrewd socket]

i am, I'm demoting

[grand viper]

I wish teri didn't steal my pity
(definitely not my fault)

[shrewd socket]

demoting = losing

[grand viper]

time to mald harder

what rank are you right now ?

[gleaming imp]

For lamp shill just use thelema, vita, hofin, new kiana, Ely dk, you aren't missing anything from lamp

[shrewd socket]

RL and I'm literally going to -100

[grand viper]

RL / A3 bounce is fine

[shrewd socket]

i hate it

[grand viper]

just bruteforce retain everything with vita fr

[gleaming imp]

My vita s2 because dupe in same multi

[grand viper]

vita is so good, she can solo clear Kallen on Blade Grave F6

[gleaming imp]

Just 5 more patches and she'll be SS2

4 more patches and I get ss eepy teri

[grand viper]

bricked

[gleaming imp]

But eepy teri good since nostalgia as a p1 boomer

[grand viper]

[shrewd socket]

atp im waiting for someone to tell me to quit

and then not touch a single gacha ever again

[gleaming imp]

I know, just let nostalgia be your guide like me

[grand viper]

truly the strongest gacha player

[glass nacelle]

he blames people for saying she's weak kek
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EZw6eVETA

[pale charm]

guys is herrscher of finality coming back

[somber egret]

eLy

[shrewd socket]

-Needs SS old AOP

instantly weak

[gleaming imp]

!faq adv

What's the one for adv?

[atomic coral]

you're not a prof

[shrewd socket]

can't use anyway

[grand viper]

check the pins

Dry I thought you knew you couldn't do faqs unless you had the perms for them

[gleaming imp]

Yes she is coming back, though it's a adv which means that to get hofin you'll need 28k for hofin herself and also spare 16.8k crystals for her dk sig weapon

[glass nacelle]

[gleaming imp]

Thank you

As a adv connoisseur I love advs as they let me get valks I really like at SS

And they make the valks I do own currently even stronger

[glass nacelle]

wod issue : no dmg during arc, stuck CD and ari ez skip dkey

[feral epoch]

Thelema the true WoD face

[glass nacelle]

que is LoA user now

[pale charm]

wait why do i need 28k?

[gleaming imp]

To get hofin kiana granteed

[feral epoch]

100 pulls

[gleaming imp]

Less than 28k equals no kiana

[willow perch]

100 pulls + 1% chance vs standard 90 pulls +1.5% chance

[pale charm]

bruh how do i even get that much

[feral epoch]

and without weapon

[willow perch]

Also no pity carry

[shrewd socket]

~~ruining your acc ~~ saving

[willow perch]

Well.. Yeah it's not an equipment banner

So that's obvious

[pale charm]

im only level 40 bruh its impossible

[feral epoch]

add 16.800

[pearl rain]

you get more pulls as a beginner

[pale charm]

but 28k is ridiculously expensive

[gleaming imp]

You have all of 8.0 and 8.1 weeks 1-5 to save up funds for it

[glass nacelle]

in the past u can get awakening valk with 50 pulls adv banner kek

[pale charm]

what can i do to save up

[shrewd socket]

it's not

[gleaming imp]

They changed it when I wanted senti for just 40 pulls

[pearl rain]

dont use xtals, that easy

[shrewd socket]

a guaranteed S0 4/4 nowadays is like 150 pulls

[feral epoch]

just get lucky

[gleaming imp]

Grind, do all you can and be active

[pearl rain]

just get s0 4/4 in 5 pulls tbh

[pale charm]

how do u get thath much story doesnt give that much

[shrewd socket]

yk there's more than story to do right?

[pale charm]

then what will give lots of crystals?

[shrewd socket]

just playing?

[gleaming imp]

Iirc a new player can grind 40k crystals so you should have crystals available to reach 28k and have time to aquire funds for hofin dk

[shrewd socket]

a normal patch can at worst get you 50 pulls

[gleaming imp]

Abyss, daily, ER, MA Events, log ins

[pale charm]

NORMAL PATCH???

[shrewd socket]

at worst

[pale charm]

how often

[shrewd socket]

avg is like what 20k?

70 something

[grand viper]

did you just start playing ?

[pale charm]

yeah

yesterday

[grand viper]

just get all the beginner crystals you can, it should amount to a decent amount

then you still have the entire rest of the patch to save and farm

[pale charm]

i got 600 from like an update or smth

[gleaming imp]

Oh then you're guaranteed to get hofin adv and dk if you put in the work and do all you can

[gleaming imp]

That's maintenance crystals

[pale charm]

oooh so thats not much i thought that was like average

so u get like 20k?

in patches?

[gleaming imp]

Idk the average per patch I just generally assume a player gets 14k per patch

[atomic coral]

18-20k

[pale charm]

thats soo good thats like more than ive ever made haha

[gleaming imp]

I would recommend #👶beginner-help if you ever need advice

[pale charm]

ok thx

[gleaming imp]

[pale charm]

but how ofen are patches

[atomic coral]

usually 6 weeks long

[willow perch]

8.1 for global is Feb 20th

[pale charm]

nice in a month exactly

is that before or after herrscher of finality

[willow perch]

HoFi adv is week 5-6 of 8.1

[pale charm]

woah thats in alooong time

[gleaming imp]

I'm excited another person pulling on adv

[pale charm]

man ill alr be dead from school

[shrewd socket]

you did it dry you skemed someone successfully

[gleaming imp]

It's okay hi3 let's you have some days where you can just do daily and daily event and call it a day

[pale charm]

yeah alr

[gleaming imp]

That's what I do often

[shrewd socket]

inb4 they quit after getting HoFi

[willow perch]

If that happens we're putting Dry in the naughty corner

[grand viper]

Dry helping bricking accounts

[gleaming imp]

I thought it was little big planet

[naive briar]

smh unauthorised repost again

[somber egret]

[willow perch]

Unauthorised reposts are counted as rule 6

[naive briar]

people think giving credit means they can ignore the creator's "do not repost"

[glass nacelle]

Is ely LoA support good (except tank)

[copper shale]

sparkle better

[willow perch]

I'll copege with Minidu it's fine™️

[muted mauve]

New Figurine

@naive briar (poke)

[somber egret]

[muted mauve]

No drooling

[junior nova]

So they still made old outfits into figures

Maybe time runner figure someday

[pale charm]

Wait per patch does the amount of crystals u get depend on ur account progression

[feral epoch]

yes

#👶beginner-help

better place to ask

[pale charm]

Oof

[feral epoch]

which server are you playing btw

[pale charm]

Global

How much cani get as a level 40

[naive briar]

[junior nova]

For? Story progress or anniv?

[pale charm]

Umm wdym

Like amount of gems in patches

[gleaming imp]

She’s so 🛐

[gleaming imp]

A figure company can do wglasses on or off but hi3 can’t do alternate hair style for cny HoFS skin

[junior nova]

Next patch is estimated around 8k xtals from cny rewards including supply cards

[muted mauve]

[naive briar]

[muted mauve]

[naive briar]

[prisma tartan]

[thick prawn]

[shrewd socket]

you won't stay in lv40 forever

[pale charm]

Grinding levels is kinda annoying tho

[grand viper]

you should've seen what that was like 3-4 years ago

[feral epoch]

5 years ago

[willow perch]

Dont need to go that far back

[feral epoch]

when i started playing

[willow perch]

ooooo

But yeah the level grind got cut significantly back in 5.8

Took me from 4.9 - 5.4 to go from Captain level 1-80

People have it super easy nowadays

So the complaints of it being annoying is super kek

[somber egret]

keep playing story, you'd be Lv70 in no time

[grand viper]

took me probably a year and a half to go from 80 to 88

also KhaiKhai

[willow perch]

Took me a year and 3 months to 1-88

SheepiSheepiSheepiSheepiSheepi

[grand viper]

damn thats relatively quick compared to me

[willow perch]

May 25 2021 - 19 August 2022

[grand viper]

how fast do people get level 88 nowadays ?

[willow perch]

I know people who play daily can get to 80** within the month

80 not 88 omg

[grand viper]

level 88 speedrunning

[willow perch]

I lub heavythought emote

[grand viper]

80 within the month is crazy compared to back then

[willow perch]

It's content, calm, resonance with peace

[shrewd socket]

i took me like 2-3 patches

was lv88 by the 7.1 i think?

[willow perch]

Yeah thats why I laugh at anyone calling the exp grind now any sort of annoying

If only they knew

[grand viper]

aware

[willow perch]

[shrewd socket]

i think even sooner

[glass nacelle]

lv90 when

[shrewd socket]

never

[grand viper]

took me like 2 years total to reach max or something

[shrewd socket]

it looks like g game

[glass nacelle]

pri-arm lv 70

[grand viper]

EX rank valks when ?

base SS rank valks when ?

[glass nacelle]

~~just pull 3 dupes ~~

[shrewd socket]

SS Rank 300 pull pity

[grand viper]

gonna be me when kiana comes

[glass nacelle]

🐳

[grand viper]

on the discounted 10

I'm gonna win big

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/happenagain-netflixdark-gif-24133691

[gleaming imp]

Just pull adv for base SS Valk

100 pulls versus 270 pulls

[shrewd socket]

adv = backpulling = bad

[glass nacelle]

how to brick acc fast

[gleaming imp]

Adv good, backpulling good

[shrewd socket]

me when i lie

[gleaming imp]

Me when telling truth case in point hofin and hotruth and Ely

[grand viper]

for misinfo

[gleaming imp]

[mild owl]

pulling skins is better for meta than advs

[glass nacelle]

only 25k

[grand viper]

real

[glass nacelle]

[gleaming imp]

Both

[mild owl]

god this skin is so good i need to do the event

[grand viper]

outfits will increase your score
(getting beaned for misinfo )

will time capsule ever return ?

[mild owl]

outfits make you smile when you look at your screen therefore you play better in abyss which increases your score more than getting ranks from advs true and real

[grand viper]

mald with happiness

[shrewd socket]

outfits make me sad bc those 9.6k could have gone into a valk therefore i feel depressed and get low score

[supple furnace]

[grand viper]

save harder, win better

[willow perch]

Only time I used xtals on Outfit was frigid

Id much rather spend bchips

[grand viper]

just have good luck

[gleaming imp]

8.1 funds

[short knoll]

need more

[glass nacelle]

🐳

[gleaming imp]

Real, crystal lottery will pull through trust

[grand viper]

its funny because I've gotten almost every crystal outfit except for CH/Frigid/AKA original pyramids and a few of the HOMU Bingo outfits

[supple furnace]

18k from event next

[glass nacelle]

0.18k

[gleaming imp]

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel donate ples

[somber egret]

Best Stig!

[naive briar]

[unique swallow]

[naive briar]

[gleaming imp]

I want that FR Rita skin

[naive briar]

are you picking a fight or

[gleaming imp]

Is that not FR Rita skin in the middle of that box?

[naive briar]

gonna check

[naive briar]

didn't notice, sorry

[gleaming imp]

Rita is so 🛐

[willow perch]

Heheh

[naive briar]

Rosemary original best

why cow horn

[gleaming imp]

I need p2 rita suit and also it needs to mandatory be tall p2 dudu bis support and vice versa since a queen should support their queen the most

[naive briar]

that's just gonna be a 16 years old Rita eyeing Bianka

[glass nacelle]

[terse tinsel]

The powercreep is too strong...

As always

[robust crane]

is v3 hohe that bad?

[glass nacelle]

It's already been 4 patches without clock, so next cycle is husk trust

[copper shale]

shes fine if u have ss sera and thel, and she's at least s2, will be able to compete with lantern for some weathers

[mossy escarp]

ew

[shrewd socket]

bita time

[gleaming imp]

They should rerun starless andrius

[shrewd socket]

no

stop running starless

[junior nova]

How to get skin again? v8.1 spending event?

[shrewd socket]

8.0 event

[smoky lintel]

Spending is Luna

[gleaming imp]

But what about my snake queen?

[shrewd socket]

she's old.

[smoky lintel]

Smh Mobius found dead in the corner

[gleaming imp]

But she top scores starless andrius still

[shrewd socket]

starless shouldn't exist in the first place

[gleaming imp]

But what about us p1 boomers?

[shrewd socket]

hop on P2 or quit

[gleaming imp]

[willow perch]

[glass nacelle]

ew

where wolf lightning

[terse ravine]

o, type counter

[strange lintel]

Well I reached lvl 88 in 28 days

[copper yew]

Is ellie's divine key worth it?

[copper yew]

Did you sleep?

[ember locust]

The only Starless I want to rerun is the Luna one, they can go and freaking themselves with the other Starless ones

[copper yew]

I only have 3/4 vita as a supp

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/bang-dream-mygo-anon-chihaya-anon-gif-2410876939056496435

[copper yew]

Refused to play p2 valks..

Vita was the only expetion

[supple furnace]

Well it make your ely meta relevant again and personally +10 atk is already worth

[nova osprey]

Too bad ellie needs thel otherwise shes just bricked

[supple furnace]

Oh yeah xd

[copper yew]

Is SS1 and new gear enough to make her metta

[nova osprey]

Need thel

[copper yew]

Why?

[nova osprey]

Shieldbreak, rime, timestop, ari farming

There is no escaping p2

[copper yew]

Can someone tell me how many crystals did they get from the 60 mill giveaway

[nova osprey]

It hasnt been given out yet

[ember locust]

Not given yet, it's in 10 days

[grand viper]

ari farming

[mortal osprey]

what abt cn ppl

[supple furnace]

Ya they got it's still 400~18k

[mortal osprey]

ok im gonna get 18k no one's on eu anw

[nova osprey]

The pool is shared between all regional servers

[mortal osprey]

[craggy sentinel]

lets go

[copper yew]

Hoping ellie stays meta for a long time since she's a supp and a DPs

[mortal osprey]

manifesting 18k anw

[copper yew]

Over 8k and I'm happy

[mortal osprey]

like every other p2 char?

[steep axle]

Helo

[nova osprey]

The cn beta peeps said she is dissapointing

[copper yew]

They're disappointing

[steep axle]

I got 3/4 dudu today

[craggy sentinel]

idc that ult animation alone is worth it

[steep axle]

No more 2/4 copium

[junior nova]

18K PER PERSON????

[grand viper]

ches

[nova osprey]

Missing a giant arrow, 0/10

[copper yew]

Hopefully

[craggy sentinel]

nuh uh

[craggy sentinel]

ur beef

[grand viper]

real

[copper yew]

Luck

[junior nova]

Oh wait I forgot it's a raffle

[steep axle]

Im gonna get 400

[grand viper]

beef ?
I'm lamb

[craggy sentinel]

honestly anything that has giant mirrors is an instant sold for me

[junior nova]

I'm manifesting a solid 423 crystals

[craggy sentinel]

nuh uh

[steep axle]

I have a 1 in 65 chance to win valk box from raffle

[copper yew]

Hoyo Cn beta players are some of the ickiest people

[junior nova]

Really?

[copper yew]

Haven't seen any bad ones from hsr yet

[grand viper]

that and not the +10 atk

[copper yew]

Genshin and hi3 make me mad

[craggy sentinel]

[copper yew]

Is that sarcasm or

[grand viper]

worst emoji to be added to the server smh

[grand viper]

yes

[steep axle]

+10 atk is good tbh

I would get a dkey just for that

[glass nacelle]

nuh uh

[junior nova]

[short knoll]

not worth going for if the valk isnt good, for f2p btw

[copper yew]

It's pretty and pink no more needs to be said

[glass nacelle]

p2w btw

[steep axle]

Too broke to spend btw

[copper yew]

Like an old pink philosopher once said

[short knoll]

seem like new HoH is more of a dps than support? havent seen her being good at WoD and LoA support, usable but not great i guess

tho she does have that locked tag

[steep axle]

I miss having supports

[copper yew]

Queen Ellie always meta

[steep axle]

Ely too good to be a support fr

[glass nacelle]

wod : worse than current option
loa : shoot tank weakness

[copper yew]

Tbh

[glass nacelle]

[craggy sentinel]

[craggy sentinel]

yuh uh

[supple furnace]

*Too bad

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

best ??? support trust

[copper yew]

New ellie skin when

[steep axle]

New mei with ??? Trust

Pls im broke after HoH one

I dont even use it default is kinda better

[copper yew]

Herrscher 4 all dk astral rings trust

[steep axle]

Oh did anyone try to use ely dkey with gacha outfit

[copper yew]

Yeah

[steep axle]

Do you get sent to normal HoO domain thing or pink one

[copper yew]

Old is better in my opinion

[short knoll]

if we follow CNY patch pattern, the full price valk will be good, the cheap one is kinda whatever

[copper yew]

No the skin domain

Not HoO

[steep axle]

Good

I didnt pay 9600 for nothing 😔

[copper yew]

Fr

[glass nacelle]

eLy

[short knoll]

new ice support will make hoh better trust

[steep axle]

Pardo return trust

[short knoll]

still missing new p1 ice support

[copper yew]

This question has probably been asked alot but since I'm an off and one player , are ellie and sendina related?

[grand viper]

should just make hohe better from the start

[copper yew]

Will trust u

[steep axle]

No i belive

[short knoll]

better milk her as much as possible

[grand viper]

thats why the dkey exists

[short knoll]

also more support to make her good

[steep axle]

I have 16 pink tickets

Will be 26 with cny

Or 27

4 pulls for ely dkey will be real

[glass nacelle]

wow leek hrb dkey

[willow perch]

[grand viper]

KhaiKhai look at this

[rain isle]

Cheese

[willow perch]

That's it, I'm dry-aging ches for 24 months

[naive briar]

new food

[rain isle]

Oof

Cheese gud tho

[grand viper]

[ember locust]

I just hope her locked tag will be better in terms of support

[short knoll]

highly doubt

the cheap valk in CNY usually wasnt that great

[ember locust]

💀💀💀

[short knoll]

SpA and HoO

[rain isle]

HoO is poggers since Waxing Moon XD

I'd say both were pretty decent on release but ye nothing crazy by any means.

[still vine]

if only I had gear

[short knoll]

technically, helia is the cheap CNY valk too

[gleaming imp]

3 weeks until SSS HoR

[glass nacelle]

real bait

[willow pumice]

[feral epoch]

she will be better for ??? support

just like hofi unknown reso tech

[glass nacelle]

nice cope

[verbal mountain]

how's badum for world star team

[copper shale]

last time i checked, for fire teams, it should be double kiana

for lightning teams, badum replaces one of them

[glass nacelle]

good

[verbal mountain]

this double kiana tech makes world star teams score like sss?

[copper shale]

idk i think its prob a slight marginal increase

v2 was kinda big, but after nerfs v3 no one checked yet

[verbal mountain]

yea she lost her team fire buff

[glass nacelle]

.

[novel adder]

Should I pull for new kiana of HOFI

[willow pumice]

What valks do you have

She's ok

oh

OR

[novel adder]

I have vita

[willow pumice]

no hofi too expensive now

[junior nova]

I'm still not over arc city bridge return

[shrewd socket]

ez skip

[short knoll]

bikini return then we talk

[junior nova]

Yes please

I've been coping for comet bikini return so hard that I dream about it

lmaooo

[shrewd socket]

game EoS

[copper shale]

i meant refs that compares speeds of clearing, i did saw this earlier yea

[neat yoke]

Never.

[junior nova]

[short knoll]

they need to follow ggz

[shrewd socket]

hell no

[glass nacelle]

follow glb eos yes

[shrewd socket]

no need to go CN/JP only with another game

[short knoll]

real

[plucky cradle]

hi3 in 2025

[glass nacelle]

densowhel in 2028

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel in 2030

[glass nacelle]

[lone grove]

chat what's best kiana team \ s yet? cuz i see ppl use vita sparkle or dudu sparkle or hohe sparpkle, or it heavily depends on the boss?

[copper shale]

boss dependent yea

but what u can guarantee is that sd bosses need songque

[shrewd socket]

general bis is Vita Sparkle
for SD content is Vita Que
for symphony Vita HoHe Dkey

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

hmmm depends

[lone grove]

[lone grove]

hnmmm i see thank you!

thankfully i will be only missing dudu

[lone grove]

yeah seeing that she gathers sd particles and just deals good dmg on them

[shrewd socket]

she triggers it without gathering

[lone grove]

oh

[shrewd socket]

so you do charged -> wep in LoA

[lone grove]

oh yeah

did this in 8.0 beta

[copper shale]

her main thing is combo atk instantly breaking one of these things

[lone grove]

hm i see

[little ledge]

I wonder if RoO are the new "goat valks" like Herrschers/Huas/Dudus were before

[nova osprey]

Nah its just vita

[little ledge]

fair

although I wonder what HoHE not being RoO says about RoO

[short knoll]

it says nothing

[shrewd socket]

RoO only shines on being the midlands

[feral epoch]

i'm so bad at playing vita

how are they 20+ with s3 dk and S songque while mine s1 dk and SS songque

[nova osprey]

Its tc wolf on cn right

Or was it lightning wolf

[feral epoch]

tc

[shrewd socket]

bio sampo when

[ember locust]

Translation ?

[ember locust]

Depends on the boss but Songque is a must on SD content, Sparkle is BiS and Vita is second BiS

[shrewd socket]

After 8.1 Update - 02/07 12:00 (Server Time)?

[copper shale]

well the thing in brackets is friday

[naive briar]

lol

[copper shale]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12bwpeuEYg/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

did u try this

2a cancel for p1 so the description said

[lone grove]

yeah dkey will run only for 2 weeks

hate that they do that with each dkey

[ember locust]

Yeah there's not even a reason to just make it run 2 weeks

[feral epoch]

there's a reason

fomo

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/money-money-money-money-rain-boss-lady-boss-gif-5906500656361287837

[shrewd socket]

they're not the new valk equip that's the reason

[feral epoch]

already did that

[ember locust]

^^ That too

[feral epoch]

just different opening

[copper shale]

oh, then why u so low

ah i see

[nova osprey]

Its so they have space to run reruns wp in equip supply b

[feral epoch]

skill issue and 8D+ difference

[nova osprey]

[copper shale]

ah, ur ios?

[shrewd socket]

ios have +8D??

[copper shale]

well bilibili server also has high d

just dno which one he is in

[feral epoch]

IOS

[naive briar]

wtf thumbnail

[copper shale]

[feral epoch]

p1 hp dmg very different, also during shieldbreak doesn't immediately break with her SO

[copper shale]

i assume u alr tried this then
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1U4wpe6ErF/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

d too high

[copper shale]

do u have max dk btw

[feral epoch]

i didn't, cooked myself

[copper shale]

well only 20+ poitns down, not bad cook

[feral epoch]

max dk of 2024

[copper shale]

doable, maybe

[copper shale]

missing only one

[deep bronze]

what element is the new kiana

and what exactly is the elysia change?

[copper shale]

fire stardust

[deep bronze]

she getting astral ringed?

[copper shale]

she takes some of lantern weather

[copper shale]

yes

[deep bronze]

probal y needs new weapon like kiana?

[copper shale]

needs new weap, s2 rank, ss sera

ss sera is a maybe tho. depedning on your server

also needs thelema

[deep bronze]

sera?

[copper shale]

aop

[deep bronze]

i really dont know all the abbriviations

[copper shale]

part 2 elf

[nova osprey]

S2 is enough? Thought u need ss

[copper shale]

the dmg looks okay for s2

but if ur bracket sweaty then yeah ss or even ss1

[deep bronze]

gotcha thanks

guess im skipping durandal

whats getting added in 8.1 BP?

[copper shale]

horb gear

seele gear

[deep bronze]

what about shards wise in the pass itself

[copper shale]

its still hare

[deep bronze]

ugh

[copper shale]

char shards lasts for 2 patches

so it was img bronya 7.8 - 7.9, and hare 8.0 - 8.1

[deep bronze]

gotcha

cheers

[feral epoch]

retent only, boring

[copper shale]

too competitive

[spice summit]

I want to get hohe's dkey

But if thelema is a requirement for her, then I'm cooked

Is there any possibility of hohe getting a support or being one for future dps?

[smoky lintel]

She has ??? We don't know how she will perform in that new astral ring

[spice summit]

Ah I see

I'll gamble on that chance then

[short knoll]

all ??? tag has been good support so far, not too far off from the others

we will get more valk with HSS in the future, whether they will be good support for a specific valk or not is a different story

[novel adder]

Is hofi devine key with her on the banner?

[smoky lintel]

If you look a bit downwards you will see waxing moon

So hofi dkey

[verbal mountain]

what weather?

[novel adder]

What is a waxing moon (I'm new) is that her dkey?

[smoky lintel]

That's just her Dkey name

[novel adder]

Ok yy

[smoky lintel]

Should be type counter iirc

[verbal mountain]

K cuz there are like 3 different wolfs lmao

[glass nacelle]

lightning, tc, starless, loa

[little ledge]

there's a loa wolf now?

oh right I just cant read

[verbal mountain]

RoO wolf when

[copper shale]

i mean this type counter wolf is basically vita's weather

[verbal mountain]

lightning and tc both

[copper shale]

right so no need for roo

[novel adder]

Should I get hofi and devine key or elysia's Devine key or new kiana battlesuit Or thelema

[dry delta]

dkey

[verbal mountain]

If u can afford it new kiana+ dkey

and kiana's weapon obv

[novel adder]

Elysias ?

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yiwpeeECe

[glass nacelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiImpact3rd/comments/1i5rmsj/justice_for_elysia_submit_feedback_demanding_the/

kek

[steep axle]

What the 12 second HoDom

[dry delta]

no obviously the next dkey is horb or gardua hua

[shrewd socket]

GLB CC be like: what you even talking about?

[ember locust]

We need that

[ember locust]

He was asking if he summons Waxing Moon or Ely's DK 🤦‍♂️

[dry delta]

o i wasn't talking to him

[ember locust]

@dry delta Also HoRb is the most likely to get a DK

[dry delta]

but why

shes still good in meta

[ember locust]

FoV is very unlikely to get one...

[dry delta]

BUt horb is MEtA??

[ember locust]

Not that good anymore compared to P2 characters, because they are polyvalent

[verbal mountain]

reddit moment

[dry delta]

shes still useful SHE STILL HAS USE.

[ember locust]

Not only that but the supports caters to AR types and not only type of DMG. The buffs brought by P2 teams are bigger than what Seele could bring

Quite litterally

[dry delta]

so like when wuold the next dkey be

[ember locust]

At this point, they could release one next spending event

[dry delta]

which is..

[ember locust]

Considering rn it's the 2nd time consecutive that we get a DK

[ember locust]

Potentially 8.4

But nothing is sure, that's just speculation

Remember

[dry delta]

yeah ok

[dry delta]

gib me the dark ds

she is herrschr level good i can see it

the only herrscher level entities in hi3 p2 are songque and her

Maybe ||Helia too Idk we'll need to see but as for now I see her more as like fu hua , not a herrscher||

[twin dune]

Is the new kiana considered a herrescher though

Ingame i mean

Cuz lorewise it s finality with new year style

[verbal mountain]

don't think so

[smoky lintel]

same i think its more like a silverwing situation

[twin dune]

It s weird though. Kiana s a herrescher now. I get why void drifter doesen t count as a herrescher

[ember locust]

Nope, even though she's in HoFi form

[twin dune]

This one is because of the siphonising effect. Bronya is now a coreless herrescher meaning she runs with residual energy so not really a herrescher

[smoky lintel]

right i forgot but still kiana shouldnt count as an herscher even though she technically is

[muted mauve]

The warning signal spawned after the boss

[twin dune]

Hoyo logic works wonders

[twin dune]

Hoyo gameplay working wonders

[muted mauve]

???

[smoky lintel]

dont even try to find logic in hoyo

[muted mauve]

can't even time things

[muted mauve]

core still there just vastly weakened as of part 2.

[muted mauve]

ye

[strange crystal]

Some question... what are the chances of HoRb being in next BP season given that her gear will be in this season's BP and she'll be in spending event token shop? If low, does that mean the next in line S-ranks are Luna and Garuda? But they just had their ADV Supply. Oh well ~2am thoughts I guess

[smoky lintel]

the chaches are very low to run back to back in bp even though one was just the gear. and we can guess that luna will be in 8.2 BP cuz her stamps are in the supply shop and they did the same thing with HoTr and Hare. we dont know whats going on with HoH though she already was in BP but still get tokens in the supply shop so we will see who will fill that spot

[strange crystal]

Oh right. But 8.2 supply shop will be Luna and HoHE. Ely was already in BP previous season iirc with PE Dudu. But I guess Luna is really possible to be in next BP season. If that'll happen, then I can prioritize Ely next patch stamps from Supply Shop.

[smoky lintel]

yeah as i said we will have to see whos gonna fill Elys spot

[strange crystal]

Anyway, thanks for entertaining my midnight thoughts

[muted mauve]

Andrius dead. Time to

[smoky lintel]

[gleaming imp]

Starless andrius rerun please

[muted mauve]

just less than 3 days left. hope I get Kiana and Teri

[gleaming imp]

For the nostalgia?

[muted mauve]

uh

[slim lion]

For meta obviously

[ember locust]

Tbh very likely to be FoV on this one

Unless they go HoFi somehow

[ember locust]

Nope, even 8.1 supply shop is HoHe and Luna stamps

[ember locust]

Basically Luna and FoV is the most likely duo for BP

[junior nova]

I pray

I need hofi stamps in shop right now

[abstract night]

HoRb being smacked

[shrewd socket]

stooped

[shrewd socket]

horbad

[abstract night]

Nu uh

[shrewd socket]

uh huh

[gleaming imp]

Horbgood when dkey arrives eventually its just a matter of time

[abstract night]

When cope arrives

[gleaming imp]

Not copium since she'll get a dkey for nostalgia shill to bait p1 boomers like myself

[shrewd socket]

bref what Geed form do i put on my name this week

[abstract night]

Then why has HoFs gotten nothing
HoV:
Any pt1 non herrscher (besides vke and bke):

[shrewd socket]

erm

AE-

[abstract night]

Rise Up?

[abstract night]

Who?

[gleaming imp]

Because that would kill lamp on arrival

And lamp is already in a bad spot

[abstract night]

Oh goodness! But nostolgia!!

[gleaming imp]

Thats why we have hofin and new kiana to do all lamp content with

[shrewd socket]

no Fusion Rise

[abstract night]

What?

[abstract night]

Different niches

[gleaming imp]

Lamp is already losing to vita on her own shill

What niche?

[abstract night]

HoFi is a ws (okay maybe they overlap there.) And RoO support (and roo dps)
Badum is a ws, hs, LoA dps + sd

[mint cape]

Guys will there be anyone added to wt? I lowkey wanna buy argent knight but like what if there's gonna be someone better than Rita in WT in 8.1(sorry I don't speak good English)

[abstract night]

Mobius and HoFs

1.0<->5.2

[mint cape]

Will mobius be for 1120 Aw?

[gleaming imp]

The point is lamp can't even win in her own content

[abstract night]

Both AL

[lime star]

Lamp has 1/2 abyss where she BiSes

And maybe a few more as a supp

[abstract night]

Powercreep!

[lime star]

Ye lattern is almost RIP

[mint cape]

Is there gonna be Valkyries that's 1120 aw?if no then I can buy argent knight

In 8.1?

[abstract night]

Yeah if u want i guess

[gleaming imp]

There isn't, no new AW valks in WT just AL valks

[mint cape]

Okay Ty

[gleaming imp]

I forgot which is which but like no new cheap wt valks in wt

But yeah tldr lamp bad

[abstract night]

Powercrept*

[gleaming imp]

Vita is already besting her

[abstract night]

Vita came after lantern

Powercreep

[gleaming imp]

Then why hasn't senadina or thelema or songque or eepy teri been powercreep?

[abstract night]

Ask hoyo

[steep axle]

didnt senadina or whatever her name was get powercrept

[gleaming imp]

Not in the same situation as lamp at least

[steep axle]

she was sd right

[gleaming imp]

Yes she's SD

[steep axle]

werent there 2 sd valks after her

[smoky lintel]

with kiana now yeah

[gleaming imp]

Yes

But she has the benefit of being SD while lamp is lamp

[smoky lintel]

and she stonks on WoD support

[steep axle]

i lowkey wasnt here when lamp came out

[verbal mountain]

same situation

she got powercrept on some weathers but kept some others

[gleaming imp]

But it's lampbad not senabad

[verbal mountain]

cope

delulu

[gleaming imp]

[verbal mountain]

lampbad

senabad too

[steady granite]

lampgood
senagood

[verbal mountain]

hakabad

[neat yoke]

Don't bully Haka

[ember locust]

I mean... HoRb was smacked bc of her gear being in BP, not her

[ember locust]

Basically HoHe is taking back almost all of her weathers lol

[lime star]

Yeah I can only think of 1 abyss where lattern is BiS as DPS

Mobius one

[ember locust]

The only one she's not taking is Mobius lol

[abstract night]

Irrelevant
Dante was in bp before bke went into bp

[ember locust]

Not really irrevelant, that just means HoRb won't immediately be in the BP

Just like HoFi

[abstract night]

We have no clue

[ember locust]

Yeah

I feel like they're planning something with her

[ember locust]

Otherwise they wouldn't put her gear in BP

[shrewd socket]

idt Kiana was ever on bp

we had no clue of waxing

unless HoO stuff was the clue

[final locust]

does lantern ever beat ely?

like how does SSS lantern compare to SSS ely?

[ember locust]

She was never in the BP

[ember locust]

Well so far, Lantern only keeps Mobius boss as BiS

[final locust]

well ofc

she wouldnt if hohe's dmg wasnt halved

[abstract night]

Maybe thats why it was halved

[glass nacelle]

Hohe is better ofc
Lantern rank is more support

[final locust]

good

[glass nacelle]

But her wod support is weaker kek

[final locust]

lantern?

[short knoll]

HoH main role is dps, probably will be dead soon

[final locust]

she has ??? ring

[short knoll]

other valk has it too, probably wont be great, just usable for ???

[final locust]

why would they make her "just usable" every LoA valk is good, every WoD valk is good

shes probably like songque
meant for the new ring

[copper shale]

cope

[short knoll]

wdym every wod is good

[verbal mountain]

looks at lantern

[final locust]

she doesnt count

[short knoll]

she isn't a good wod support already

[final locust]

shes not real
shes not a valk
shes just your imagination

[final locust]

shes a decent LoA support and has ??? ring

her buffs arent even bad its just that song vita sena and thelema exist to dominate wod

[short knoll]

decent = usable

[final locust]

her damage is great from stellar shift

and stellar drain cost like 1pt or less
shes very fast
good damage
good buff
she's good for LoA and will probably be good for new ring

[short knoll]

i we follow cny pattern, the cheap valk usually isn't great
look at SpA HoO helia

[final locust]

shes not cheap

shes the same scenario as hofi

[oak yarrow]

"bad spot"

[final locust]

lamp isnt in a bad spot she is the bad spot

[short knoll]

she is the cheap valk of the patch

[final locust]

helia wasnt the cheap valk

it was coralie
cuz coralie was free

[short knoll]

not gacha, doesnt count

[final locust]

that still has like no basis

HoO got a resurgence

helia was insanely good for a long time

well not insanely

[short knoll]

[final locust]

but she was good for a long time

i dont think they will fumble the fan favorite's resurgence that bad
hohe will be good for new ring

[ember locust]

Huuh, so far all the "???" supports released were actually good enough to keep them as a support to the new AR, I wouldn't dump doom so fast @copper shale