🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[umbral spoke]

wait a minute-

[atomic coral]

hos finds a stick in the forest and makes another dkey

[umbral spoke]

yeah nvm Senti

[edgy drift]

release a thing that removes half the valk, big

[ember locust]

There's a reason to why her valk is not in BP already @oak yarrow

[glass nacelle]

sena got dkey, first double ring valk

[feral epoch]

to bait the gears

[oak yarrow]

ur onto nothing

[ember locust]

They did the same shit for Kiana

HoFi

[edgy drift]

it's literally not her turn yet, save that for the next BP anouncement

[hoary mountain]

it'd be funny if they gave someone a divine key that just removes their astral ring

[ember locust]

Bro, her gear is in the freaking BP Shop in 8.1, it's just dead

[umbral spoke]

so?

[edgy drift]

gear has been put in BP twice a few times, and a valk was put in the season after her gear once too

[oak yarrow]

and all the other dkey valks had bp

[umbral spoke]

she can just come much later

[ember locust]

Doesn't mean they're never getting in, but just that they might not get in BP right away

[nova osprey]

Her support form already deals dmg, just buff it up and give her loa ring and qte spam, then her enhanced qte could be her entering dps mode and going ham, then return to support form once u go out

[tulip holly]

im sure they do, sure they do...

[feral epoch]

no, don't give her LoA, give her ??? ring

[tulip holly]

they made a spending event luna skin and not a single one for songque?????

I want songque new skin where is it???

[ember locust]

Do you have an example to be sure ?

[umbral spoke]

like I mentioned before, her impair is useless unless they specifically ignore how Impair works and prioritize Horb's impair no matter what

[glass nacelle]

how about double ring valk

[edgy drift]

she'll get one eventually, just wait

[hoary mountain]

Songque is the biggest contender for a summer skin

[tulip holly]

I mean songque is pretty chinese looking

[umbral spoke]

which is horrible game design

[hoary mountain]

she'll have a parasol for sure

[tulip holly]

so she better have an cny skin

[edgy drift]

gear before valk

[feral epoch]

when she's about to get replaced, just like sena to new kiana

[tulip holly]

< she needs one

[tulip holly]

nah she has ascension tag

she be cool

[edgy drift]

Double SA and BK gear (BK before her run then during her run)

[ember locust]

Key of Reason, I see DK I suppose ?

[tulip holly]

pls mihoyo chinese new year skin songque > <

[hoary mountain]

Mobius divine key

[glass nacelle]

9k6 lantern maid when

[nova osprey]

Just make it so her impair only applies to herself but she keeps it even in dps form, not like other loa support valks gonna need it with them being either non phys, or have their own if they are on field

[edgy drift]

it's HOR's old sig

[ember locust]

Entirely cope

[tulip holly]

yes where she turned into a completely snake

[ember locust]

Oh

[tulip holly]

then bites and suck the enemies to death

oh I mean do the thingy

[feral epoch]

why lv got her cny outfits, because she's sells more, like how did so many people spend on lantern patch while there's lv outfit

[tulip holly]

but songque deserves it

[edgy drift]

It's Acheron/Poe on the last patch of BP season with SN on the first of next season

[tulip holly]

she chinese looking enough to fit cny

[edgy drift]

(it'll be funny if they did that to both Seeles that got in BP )

[tulip holly]

which outfit do you guys will be picking at the free 5 star skin

I kinda want to pick hov

[edgy drift]

That's why they don't give CNY outfit, she already looks like it

[tulip holly]

but red and yellow :<

[umbral spoke]

I didn't expect Magic girl set, so I splurged on HoR.. gonna get Nyx.

[tulip holly]

red and orange*

[fervent hinge]

Wait there's multiple outfits in free skin box? Which ones

[tulip holly]

I want hor too but I dont have her DK

[umbral spoke]

Magic girl skins, HoV, HoR and Nyx

[fervent hinge]

Oh that's so fucking boring

[edgy drift]

Magical Girl HoV/Nyx/HoR

[feral epoch]

what does dk do to hor outfit

[fervent hinge]

I guess I'm getting the nyx one

[tulip holly]

her floating guns will be purple

[umbral spoke]

me neither, didn't care. Still worth it

[feral epoch]

will be blue

[edgy drift]

And the other one is old event skins

[tulip holly]

no Its purple

I remembered the time marisa posted that skin

the weapon effect change

[feral epoch]

just effects

still blue for model

[tulip holly]

when using the dk skill active

yes

[tulip holly]

I will pick hua on the first box

[umbral spoke]

i can't make out what they are..

[feral epoch]

i will keep the box for collection

[glass nacelle]

[tulip holly]

what if they gave you 3 boxes for each

will u still keep it

[edgy drift]

Red SA skin, AE training outfit, DJ Peach Sanctuary, DP CNY outfit

[feral epoch]

if no atk affix mats then yes I'll keep it

already have them anw

[umbral spoke]

oh oki

[abstract night]

[edgy drift]

https://youtu.be/gq_nsJuhL4I

[tulip holly]

im kinda angry fighting kevin on ER

[abstract night]

S1 JK is crazy

[tulip holly]

using the skateboard build

because i cant dodge his attack properly

I cant break his shield quickly
so I have to get dudu off from her board

to evade properly

[umbral spoke]

ah so lasers are purple still

good

[tulip holly]

purple purple

[umbral spoke]

nvm, not in drift

[feral epoch]

why fight kevin, haven't cleared his badge?

[umbral spoke]

they turn blue after getting shot out

cmon

[tulip holly]

well

the effects of the dk is still purple

so close enough

[umbral spoke]

yeah, just sad. All they had to do was change one more laser effect

[tulip holly]

cause I like to make two kaslana fight

[umbral spoke]

i mean they did non-burst WA

[tulip holly]

hmm what weapon changed for the sake of the skin....

vita is the first one to have a different weapon design in her new skin

[feral epoch]

no

[tulip holly]

design then was her feathers also changed?

when using weapon skill

[pseudo trellis]

S2 HoRb what she do S0 can’t

[glass nacelle]

[pseudo trellis]

[feral epoch]

almost every 5* gold outfit change that, so she's not the first one to have weapon design changed

hofi weap also changed models

[tulip holly]

I just replied to that comment 1 hour ago

[glass nacelle]

[tulip holly]

was it?

also fuhua too right
I mean her weapon isnt visible at all since we have gaunlet feature to show or not in the field

[umbral spoke]

she's the first p2 valk to have a gacha skin, so it can be everything

[glass nacelle]

5* lantern outfit when

[umbral spoke]

especially with weapons not changing her effects

[glass nacelle]

[tulip holly]

waiting for lantern, songque, theresa, sena will be soon this patch and coralie which is next patch

thelema already had new outfit

[umbral spoke]

yeah but thelema is not a gacha skin

[glass nacelle]

songque princess

[tulip holly]

well we spent 30k to get her skin

[umbral spoke]

they have less incentive to improve a free skin over one you HAVE to pull for

[tulip holly]

yes a princess skin but a cny event themed could be good too
I already thought of the design will be but the problem is I cant draw

[pseudo trellis]

Except she isn’t, Thelema has a skin first

[umbral spoke]

honestly, enough cny theme, just gimme swan lake songque

[tulip holly]

so what will be her normal ult?

[umbral spoke]

or any kind of dress princess is fine too

[oak yarrow]

skip combo

[tulip holly]

blue aerial sky and swans is swirling around then creating a bigger swan image?

or turning into giant flower?

[umbral spoke]

we can still use swan feathers inplace of shadows

[edgy drift]

Pretty sure that's just how it looks all the time

[tulip holly]

I mean just like on griseo ulti

the bird design

[umbral spoke]

maybe

but I expect non-recycled stuff unless they give it out for free

or you mean not literally that bird

[tulip holly]

it be look like that and swirling around songque and then creating a big flower at the sky and when astral mode it be red one
blue at normal red at astral

[tulip holly]

Yes i was just referencing it but not actually that bird

[umbral spoke]

mhm

yeah your idea could work

[edgy drift]

Every skin after they stopped showing the actual weapon on the valk

[tulip holly]

ik i wanna learn art later so I can create this idea and show it to you

[umbral spoke]

ohh I see

[tulip holly]

im really bad at drawing but has alot of ideas

[umbral spoke]

well, I was thinking of direct references to her theater play that she never attended

[tulip holly]

wait let me find that

[tulip holly]

is this one?

[umbral spoke]

part of it

it's a big motivator for her existence, to be honest especially it being the last thing doing before she ran away from her orphanage

[tulip holly]

I see

oh I see what ur trying to say

it was that pink sticker behind

[edgy drift]

ye because that's not her actual weapon

it stays the same no matter what you equip

[feral epoch]

and

[umbral spoke]

the princess sticker, i believe the play had a different color palette though

[tulip holly]

I kinda want sushang in part 2 and Susannah

[tulip holly]

Yes I understand you now

[edgy drift]

well just like I said above it's for every skin of a valk that doesn't show the actual weapon on their model

[steep axle]

hi

[edgy drift]

it's like HFS skins all change the greatsword and blackholes because they're part of the valk and you never see her actual guns, except when you press WA and the spinning guns she throws never change

[steep axle]

HoF guns with time runner is so uh

light purple with orange

[edgy drift]

they realized skins sell better when they don't clash with the weapon and that's why they moved away from valks showing their actual weapons on the model to not limit design spaces and sales

[tulip holly]

good thing her gameplay weapon was sword

despite gun

[steep axle]

also mobius with weapon

[tulip holly]

mobius weapon wasnt bad

[halcyon sparrow]

HoHe is a support for new kiana and i didnt get her in 8.0 is she getting another rerun or am i screwed?

[tulip holly]

dps support*

yeah hofi is having adv next patch and not ely
ehe

maybe at 8.2 maybe

[main goblet]

there's that scam valk box (that u buy with bchips but imo its not worth the trouble)

there's returnee supply, also i don't recommend...

[tulip holly]

yeah ely is coming back at returnee supply was it this patch or next

[halcyon sparrow]

or do i just pull for jovial?

tegretting not playing during vacation

[tulip holly]

any valk that has ascension tag is good for new kiana vita sparkle and elysia and the future ones

[verbal mountain]

don't

[edgy drift]

Hoh already got her 3 ADVs a while ago, it's unlikely she gets more

[tulip holly]

well she is having AR tag so mihoyo could make more

it be unfair for others who doesnt have ely

[edgy drift]

they never did for the other valks that got Dkeys after their advs were done

here's your solution

they know exactly what they're doing

[shrewd socket]

something something HoT and HoR are farmable

can't you like

get S2 HoHe from supply shop?

[edgy drift]

HoT became farmable in 7.3

[shrewd socket]

was in dorm already

[edgy drift]

that's not called being farmable

[shrewd socket]

still having a chance to be obtained for free

[edgy drift]

the point was just that they don't run more than 3 ADVs

[verbal mountain]

that's very far away from farmable

[small wing]

we still waiting on V3?

[verbal mountain]

yes

[tulip holly]

im bored

( waiting for 8.0 event )

which is tommorow

[edgy drift]

end of the week

[gleaming imp]

Hofin adv bait, and I'm taking the bait for ss

[ember locust]

Kiana ADV is litterally back, HoHe ADV could return anytime after 8.1

[edgy drift]

HFI only got 2 yeah

That's her 3rd

they were keeping the 3rd for the dkey rerun

[gleaming imp]

Omg besties

[ember locust]

I'm trying to search an ADV supplies history 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[gleaming imp]

Erm um actually hofin only had one previously in 7.4 🤓

Since then no adv rerun until 8.1 🤓

[edgy drift]

oh ye right it's HRB that got 2

[gleaming imp]

Horb adv had a rerun?

[edgy drift]

I see 7.7 and 7.8 on arustats

[gleaming imp]

I didn't know that

They really do adv reruns back to back

Patch and next patch

[edgy drift]

still point is that HFI didn't have 3 yet so her rerun here is normal

[edgy drift]

I rembered HFI having a back to back adv too but nope, she had a regular supply after her adv

[ember locust]

I think they pulled the DK idea for Ely quite... Lately

Wonder if they're gonna break the rule for some reason

[junior nova]

Relatable

Even if hofi isn't high in meta anymore, she's still nice to collect

[north karma]

Best friends

[small wing]

It's so funny that litost is so ugly in-game while he looks like a model in Thelema's stigs

Tho ig that applies to baiji too

[hasty cedar]

no point in putting effort into a character that you'll get no return from

[ember locust]

And still the current model is waay better than the ugly we've got in 7.8, like god damn

[small wing]

True

[versed garden]

cute

[junior nova]

How to get this?

[muted mauve]

current web event

[shrewd socket]

nice watermark

[junior nova]

There's a web event? In eu servers or is it online somewhere?

[muted mauve]

look at the channel you are in

[junior nova]

Oh

[gentle spire]

Cn for the moment, maybe it’ll come to global

Sometimes they do sometimes they don’t

[junior nova]

I completely forgot the channel I'm in

[gentle spire]

Fair tbh

[junior nova]

Good to know! Thank you

[desert smelt]

guys i just found out vita rerun in 8.1 😞

[gentle spire]

Although I’m happy with next update, three outfits, free s rank of choice and more from log ins and shit

[desert smelt]

do i pull for ely gear , vita or new kiana 💔

[gentle spire]

Prioritize Kiana or Ely key

Kiana will be reliable for a good while as they don’t add burn/ fire or whatever as much as the others

With the ely key only time will tell

[desert smelt]

i dont got lightning dps though and HoT is ass 💔💔

[gentle spire]

HoT isn’t THAT bad

[desert smelt]

my HoT cant do shit 😭😭

chat am i cooked

[steady granite]

omg is that DoS in 2025

[last yew]

ikr INSANE

[desert smelt]

in the big 2025

[hasty cedar]

DoS in 2025 what the fuck

[gentle spire]

Well this update will have free S rank I think, dunno if it’ll be global, but maybe if you really feel like it you can get another copy of her, not too sure if she’s in it tho

[steady granite]

what did you use the BP orbs for brother

[hasty cedar]

S rank HoT in 2025

[steady granite]

also why aren't you farming ER for stamps

[shrewd socket]

she's farmable

[hasty cedar]

ate them and got sent to the hospital for four years it seems like

[desert smelt]

awe hell nah im getting mobius 👅👅👅

[gentle spire]

True, it’s late for me so I’m not fully thinking

[desert smelt]

STOP I DONT GRIND HER

[hasty cedar]

clearly

[gentle spire]

I’m getting HOF for collection cause lazy

[shrewd socket]

just got S1 last week

[desert smelt]

the only good build i have is thelema and dudu 💔

[steady granite]

the new dudu, right?

...right?

[desert smelt]

getting mobius for collection i have 0/4

[desert smelt]

yes

[shrewd socket]

just buy 7T from BP

[steady granite]

was scared there for a sec

[gentle spire]

No they clearly are talking about A rank Dudu

[hasty cedar]

ER exists

[shrewd socket]

couldn't clear

[hasty cedar]

[steady granite]

nah, clearly they bought PE with the new year box

[gentle spire]

Just clear smh

[desert smelt]

im a f2p this is all i got

when i tell you this is all i got this is really all i got

[steady granite]

2nd synergy???

[shrewd socket]

i didnt have 7t

[desert smelt]

i accidentally got another one

[steady granite]

that's rare

[gentle spire]

Lemme go grab my 5 day old ftp acc

[steady granite]

all I get are stig dupes

when's my turn, smh

[desert smelt]

at least you dont have 2990 crystals and a dream for 8.1

😭😭😭😭

[steady granite]

barely 10k xtals atm, which is not much better lol

even tho patch barely started, the slacc is strong

[desert smelt]

thats like 3x 10 pulls

[north karma]

The weapon lmao

[steady granite]

:New

[desert smelt]

theres so many things in 8.1 i actually regret pulling for dudu

[north karma]

You’re new? Whered you get the weapon lel

[gentle spire]

Lazy random bullshit go ahh acc

[shrewd socket]

erm

is 1 (almost 2) year still new?

[gentle spire]

A bit

[steady granite]

part 2 isn't even year old so no

[north karma]

No

[steady granite]

you're a fossil, congrats

only those who started with part 2 are new

[desert smelt]

i got 2 weapons in like 14 pulls which is extremely lucky but i got dudu at like pity 8 so it evens it out

💀

[north karma]

More like nothing burger account

[gentle spire]

Five days with one hour per day ftp, not my main

[ember locust]

I see Elysia dancing

[shrewd socket]

erm i just 7t and S1 last week

[gentle spire]

Mostly did it to read story with extra steps

[north karma]

Oh i just made a ftp alt this week too

I haven’t even changed the random default name they give you

[shrewd socket]

i don't get the point of making an alt

like P1 is replayable

[north karma]

Whels get bored

Thats how

[shrewd socket]

thought so

[desert smelt]

why would you guys make alts it took me ages to to where i am today 💔

[gentle spire]

Well technically it’s the acc my brother had when he tried and quit after not even clearing Chapter 1, it had returnee I think so it was a bit easy

[desert smelt]

i want the new vita outfit so bad bro 😭😭😭😭😭

[gleaming imp]

Dreaming about a queen cooking for you, they're so besties

[north karma]

Get it then

[desert smelt]

i dont even have vita bro

[north karma]

Bita is rerunning

[smoky lintel]

Guess who's getting a rerun

[north karma]

Poverty issue

[smoky lintel]

Just 🐋

[desert smelt]

i spent it all on roblox

gambling

[north karma]

Lmao

[desert smelt]

i got NOTHING left for honkai after roblox

[hasty cedar]

[desert smelt]

you guys dont gamble on roblox?

[north karma]

Only on gacha games

[hasty cedar]

not even on gacha games

[spiral plank]

Yes.. finally.. the bridges are rerunning, I've waited for this moment for so long

[slim lion]

Who plays roblox in this day and age-

[desert smelt]

i spent a good chunk of my money on roblox now i have like 40 euros in my bank account but its for kfc

[desert smelt]

I do.

Ive been playing it since 2018 no way im quitting it

[slim lion]

Except you I guess

[desert smelt]

you guys dont get roblox like i do💔

[edgy drift]

sunk cost to the maximum

[slim lion]

Nope

[spiral plank]

The robux addiction is real

[gentle spire]

I played back in like 2014 I have it still whenever a younger sibling or cousin wants me to play with them

[desert smelt]

you get me

[spiral plank]

I get you and you get me

[gentle spire]

But yeah I hear you

[desert smelt]

its like an obsession combined with gambling addiction

[smoky lintel]

When DS Valkyrie

[gentle spire]

The only Roblox game I play sometimes is Sakura stand, good gambling (not really) but it has honkai thingys and limbus thingys

Mid game mostly tho

[desert smelt]

wth is sakura stand

dont tell me its like blox fruit

[slim lion]

Can u guys please take it to #off-topic-discussion

[gentle spire]

Originally a jojo game, added more things over time

[gentle spire]

No

[gentle spire]

Was just abouta stop either way

[desert smelt]

good

[slim lion]

[gentle spire]

[north karma]

I need her.

[desert smelt]

maybe at a kfc

do you think theyll give me free kfc if i work there

[hasty cedar]

employee discount yeah

[smoky burrow]

I hope she's not loa but I also hope she's not the new AR Tag

[small wing]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

wish granted, she's an astral op

[main goblet]

no no no she'll be a moral support

[lilac jungle]

she'll be my wife

[smoky lintel]

She will be neither Just

[lilac jungle]

[smoky lintel]

it's honkai in the end

[woeful meadow]

Out of the carnival supply, who’s worth using the free pulls on

[main goblet]

which from the 4 do you own + weapon

[woeful meadow]

I have Thelma and gear so more so on Theresa, songque, and lantern

I have vita as well but no other p2 s ranks

[main goblet]

hm imo it would be que but she's sad without her weapon

[cold hearth]

I don't have Vita's weapon but I'm pretty close to pity so I'm getting it on rerun in 8.1

[main goblet]

hows ur crystal income btw?

[cold hearth]

I'm already saving right now and still have a lot of story to get through

[woeful meadow]

Idm spending some money on it, I’ll use my f2p crystals on dkey hohe and new kiana + gear

[cold hearth]

atm I get most of them from Abyss and Memorial Arena, as well as a bit from open world

[gleaming imp]

Lantern bait easy skip mid Valk

[cold hearth]

I'm only going to start Elysian once I have reached the story point, yea I'll miss out on some pulls but I want to enjoy the story

[gleaming imp]

How much crystals you have rn and your pity?

[cold hearth]

lemme check

[woeful meadow]

So pick songque like the other person said?

[gleaming imp]

Yes

[main goblet]

good to know
if you got lucky with que or/and her wp in the raffle then there isn't that much tbh
but i won't depend on the raffle, i still think que is the best with the free pulls

lantern and teri is niche
and like que without their weapon their dps is sad

[cold hearth]

7806, 40 away from weapon hard pity

[mild owl]

it's 4 pulls a week, really would not recommend skipping it but up to you i guess

[cold hearth]

83 away from hard pity on character

[main goblet]

if you feel like you can get new kiana + vita wp that would sound good
also i wonder if you can also spare for hohe dkey

[cold hearth]

is Hohe Dkey good?

[main goblet]

if you have hohe, u can use her as a wod dps, wod support, and new ring support
she can also support ??? tag

[woeful meadow]

also should I pull on kiana dkey assuming I get everything else?? Bc I got vitas whole thing, hofi and her stigmata, and coralie so should I get the weapon to have a good dos team for her?

[cold hearth]

ooh I see

DKeys are just normal weapon pity I assume?

[woeful meadow]

Yeah for p2 pity

[cold hearth]

gotcha

well story wise I have yet to start chapter 11

so I got quite a lot to grind from story

[gleaming imp]

Hofin dk yes since it'll allow dps vita and also allow your hofin to dps if you have trio and get you +10 atk

[woeful meadow]

Ong I get u, I procrastinate it personally bc I hate using the trial characters😔

[main goblet]

tbh that would be last prio compared to new kiana + her wp + hohe dkey
while hofi dkey is nice in general and a bis for vita, if you can't afford enough then i won't recommend too much just so you won't be sucked dry with ur crystals

[woeful meadow]

Don’t have trio but😭

[cold hearth]

For me it's cause I'm consuming all the story

so I'm playing the Anti-Entropy VN right now

[woeful meadow]

Oh yeah dw it’s literally bottom of the list, songque is higher than it LOL

[main goblet]

also hoyo does like to bait, for all we know we might get a new roo valk soon or another good valk

[cold hearth]

aarghh true

tho Vita is still the only part 2 5 star Roo no?

[main goblet]

although im expecting most ppl skipping 8.2 unless they still have a lot of crystals to spare

[woeful meadow]

Don’t we get info on new patch by the point that banner goes up tho?? So we’d find out if it was

[main goblet]

yes

[main goblet]

nope
cn is our only source

[smoky lintel]

Yes, we can expect RoO to be a bit more rare cuz it can fit in any team as an cope option.

[woeful meadow]

That’s what I mean, 8.2 for china would be up

[muted mauve]

Given 8.1's 9 week run time.
8.2 Valkyrie will only be announced at GLB's week 3.

[main goblet]

we get proper info about next patch when cn is almost done with the patch were in rn
cn is 4 weeks ahead
so we knew about new kiana at the start of 8.0 for us bc for cn its 2 weeks away from 8.1 and hoyo shared some info

[woeful meadow]

And the rerun on hofi dkey is week 4 of smth so I think it’s ed find out if there’s a new valk that will be better than hofi for vita

[main goblet]

but yeah given the current cn schedule for 8.1, new kiana will still be there when we get proper info about 8.2

[woeful meadow]

When does 8.2 drop for global?

[cold hearth]

atm I'll stick to the Vita weapon and HoFi + DKey plan and will change accordingly if anything comes up

[woeful meadow]

I’m sticking to my hohe gear and new kiana, I’m so excited bc they both r so cool!!!

[cold hearth]

that said I don't have any limited Kianas atm and would like one, so would be happy with getting poster girl especially since she does the app logo

[woeful meadow]

Who r u guys picking for the free s rank? I might choose mobius

[main goblet]

s rank box?

[cold hearth]

what's the selection?

[woeful meadow]

yeah!!

[gleaming imp]

HoFS

[smoky lintel]

Check pins

[main goblet]

both mobius and hof will be in wt so u can just grind them from there

u can keep to box

[woeful meadow]

HoFs, Mobius, and every one else on standard it appears

[ember locust]

3 weeks to wait to know valk info, painful

[muted mauve]

CN waits 4 weeks every patch

[main goblet]

only sw isn't in wt but she was given for free in 7.8 + she's in dorm

[woeful meadow]

why would I tho? It’s not like it updates😔😔

[main goblet]

there's an affix box, very valuable

[woeful meadow]

Oh I thought u get both

[main goblet]

nope u can only pick one thing

[woeful meadow]

Oops, well I can pretty much afford to get mobius rn anyways

How does those affixs work??

[cold hearth]

am I blind, which post in the pinned?

[smoky lintel]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[muted mauve]

Just want to say. For Chapter 7-EX name, the subject of the praying action are the gods.

[main goblet]

they give you guaranteed stats for the stigmata that u pick
sub stats mind you

[cold hearth]

no I know I mean which one in the pinned in here lol

[ember locust]

Helia action in-coming

[main goblet]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message top middle

[smoky lintel]

Ye it's a message Link just click it and it would lead you to the message

[gleaming imp]

I have a question is teriteri AOP good for trio/better than kiaelf?

[woeful meadow]

it does I clicked it

[ember locust]

N o p e

Unless HoFi DKEy

I guess

Tbh idk

[cold hearth]

is it the b-chip thing I'm so confused

[smoky lintel]

Teri should only give lightning DMG buffs to RoO besides AR regen iirc

[main goblet]

u want to ask about the box that gives you a free valk right?

[cold hearth]

yea but Idk what it's called

ah okay finally found it, was looking too high up

[gleaming imp]

Looked at 6.4 schedule and was reminded that cn got hofin rerun same patch but global didn't

Truly one of the #glblul moments

[last yew]

omg himeko stigs in exchange shop

is this when i finally gear hofs

[untold tree]

9 week runtime??? jeez...

[keen patrol]

Hows ver 2 doing

[abstract night]

Its comfirmed to be 9 weeks?

[muted mauve]

I mean. The 7 day login is running for 10 weeks (with 1 being this patch), so if it's to end with 8.1 then yeah.
So should be.

[willow perch]

[abstract night]

Oh

Thought it was 10 for a sec

[willow perch]

Yeah checks out

[muted mauve]

that EX chapter better be 8 hours long

[edgy drift]

and the bp end dates line up with 9 weeks

[mint cape]

I can't wait for 8.1 so I can hurry up and choose starchasm nyx or mobius

[spare folio]

Who should be used with hohe dkey ? I have sena vita coralie helia hofi, gonna pull badum kiana, which should be my best team to play with hohe dkey ?

Seems like every new hohe team uses thelema in youtube

[umbral spoke]

She will be WoD, supporting LoA. That much I know.

so anywhere where songque works i suppose

[spare folio]

Ugh I don't have songque

[umbral spoke]

i mean then anyone with those 2 tags

at the very least

[willow pumice]

You can use anyone from here. She uses thelema because

1. She has always needed a freeze support (Kira), and now only Thelema can do that for WoD teams
2. For bosses like tank, Thelema can regen ar quickly

[edgy drift]

3)She gives shieldbreak for Kasumi

And she also has the highest buffs for WoD overall outside breach

[spare folio]

So hohe + vita + sena works ?

[willow pumice]

yes

[edgy drift]

It works in a nutshell yeah

But you won't be able to do heph without a reliable freeze source for example

[spare folio]

Also is back pulling thelema is okay, she seems hohe's best in slot

[edgy drift]

Pray to get her with the raffle

[gleaming imp]

Can my SS2 ely get by with just vita and senawho/coralie without thelema?

[edgy drift]

Yes as long as it's not for Heph or Kasumi

[still condor]

if you want a repeat of nearly demoting on heph sure

[gleaming imp]

[spare folio]

What's heph

[still condor]

hephaestus

[edgy drift]

Hephaestus

Needs massive freeze trauma

[verbal mountain]

how much freeze does kalpas need

[still condor]

its a boss that needs a large amount of freeze trauma, which is just pardo kira and thelema
but pardo kira dont really work for astral ring

[edgy drift]

About the same amount as heph iirc

[verbal mountain]

cooked for that too then without thel

[spare folio]

If it's not a huge dps loss imma run hohe vita sena
If high dps loss imma save for thelema

[edgy drift]

needed pardo spin + ult back in the days

[edgy drift]

The issue isn't dps but rather mechanics locks on bosses

On a boss like Benares that's just a big meatbag you can make do with other stuff

But stuff like Kasumi, Heph and Kalpas will take pretty much 0 dmg if you don't fulfill their conditions

[spare folio]

Can upcoming badum kiana and hohe run together ? Who should be 3rd slot ?

[edgy drift]

HoH can support Kiana yeah, but not the other way around

[still condor]

3rd would be vita songque sparkle or dudu

[edgy drift]

Kiana needs LoA supports, so any from Spork, Vita, Songq, Dudu and HoH

[spare folio]

So badum kiana hohe vita should be a good team
Nice, I have sena vita hofi all electro so abyss sucks for me
Specially when 50% electro res

*memorial arena I think it's called

[tulip sparrow]

im ready for kiakek

[robust crane]

sorry but doesnt ely's ult fill heph rime bar on its own?

or her so

[edgy drift]

Nah

iirc you need around 32 rime trauma

HoH dkey makes her do 3 on SO pop and 6 on Shadows

[robust crane]

https://youtu.be/6wPl7t9BsoI?t=126

[edgy drift]

Imo they could make her do enough freeze on those to fill it on her own so she can at least kill the bosses

[robust crane]

ive time stampped it

[edgy drift]

No but here they just kill before it happens

9S team in RL tends to do that

[edgy drift]

because she'd still lose 75% of her dps sequence to proc the freeze either way

[robust crane]

[edgy drift]

That's where you need the freeze
https://youtu.be/QbRNDQLi_Aw&t=60

[copper shale]

also u run into issues with going into astral burst as ive mentioned way way earlier

but ely goes in to battle weaps twice and stellat drain

and then nothing

if u dont have ss aop u cant so

so ur only choice then is to run p1 team

so u can at least ult

[edgy drift]

wat ?

I mean you can just wait for SO either way

[copper shale]

u be off 25 tho

[edgy drift]

and you can also still ult

[copper shale]

u wont have sp to ult

[edgy drift]

For a second SO you mean ?

[copper shale]

no sp to ult not so

SO no astral sp and ulti itself also no sp

[edgy drift]

I mean first rot you can ult

[copper shale]

last time i checked u cant

[edgy drift]

like that's just doing HoH shit atp, you gotta do more of it but that's the fate of every team without a gacha aop anyways

[copper shale]

maybe i remembered something differently but im pretty sure u have no sp to ult first time as well

[robust crane]

Whats the difference between SS SS1 SS2 and SSS hohe dmg wise? whats the big upgrade?

[edgy drift]

Like yeah Thelema is the fastest nothing new here, but you'll still be missing some charge to SO instantly without aop no matter what

[copper shale]

i double checked u will be at 108 sp, so u cant ult first rot

[short knoll]

luna with the main cast, hint for new luna?

[umbral spoke]

probably not

[edgy drift]

there's such a thing as attacking more

[copper shale]

right until 125

[edgy drift]

2 more charge and another WA does it

I'm not arguing it's better (no shit) just that you gotta do what you gotta do

no aops you'll be fucked either way

[copper shale]

and im saying becsuse u cannot ult immediately just go p1 team and its faster

[edgy drift]

Surely everyone can manifest a SSS JK and Kira with full gear

[copper shale]

well ur more likely to own kira and jk full gear than have ss sera

[gleaming imp]

New players won't have any jk or Kira gear

[copper shale]

also ownership of gears is another diff topic

[gleaming imp]

Who started from p2

[copper shale]

im just saying if you have all things except for ss sera and thelema, then for those who does have p1 team

it will be faster

[edgy drift]

I mean if you don't have Thelema you can't kill the boss either way, so Sera isn't even in the question

[copper shale]

yeah my point was just p1 team is an alternative thats it

[edgy drift]

But for more generic bosses, eh it prolly works

[copper shale]

whether u actually have sera, whether u have kira and jk gears thats a different topic

[gleaming imp]

I have jk weapon but she's on tb turg m avocado and my Kira is on EoP 3pc bronya, could give her m bastet by crafting it but no point since Ely gets new dk

[last yew]

this is me (12/12 p1 hohe team, no thelema). i'm confused what the conclusion is

[copper shale]

as it stands rn its just that if no ss sera and u have p1 team, bruteforcing with no ss sera is slower than p1

[copper shale]

u run p1

ely leader + kira + jk

[last yew]

oh ok gotcha

[edgy drift]

what ?

can you even SO before the fight ends

[copper shale]

yes second rot

[edgy drift]

how slow is your rot

[copper shale]

its not slow bro

[edgy drift]

to have SO on second

[copper shale]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1RPcHeCEfS/

[edgy drift]

you need to wait for 70 passive regen

that's 35 seconds

[abstract night]

Erm ackshaully
New Players will have JK weapon 🤓

[copper shale]

and?

u compare it to ss sera its only slower by 20 points

[sharp fjord]

chat is HoHe dk worth it for returning players

[short knoll]

still waiting for new p1 ice support

[edgy drift]

well if your second rot is 35 seconds in that's called slow

[gleaming imp]

Kira gone, kira over

[short knoll]

yes, but depend on your budget

[copper shale]

slow for the rot, but actual clear time its not that much slower

[sharp fjord]

Ah can she support Senadina and Sparkle :?:

Or shes purely dps

[short knoll]

not pure dps but she support other valk, not those 2

[edgy drift]

I mean Heph is just a waiting simulator either way so they all line up to the same point in the end

[abstract night]

Get rid of jk!

[sharp fjord]

Ah but can sparkle + senadina good support for her ? or she needs the new kiana

[short knoll]

all p2 S rank can be dps or support, pure dps is no more

[gleaming imp]

But Kira bad

[abstract night]

But JK worse

[edgy drift]

she needs supports with the shadow star tag as she's WoD

[gleaming imp]

Kira slandered my queen Hare that makes her bad since a queen shouldn't be slandered

[short knoll]

sena can support new hoh, sparkle no
can use coralie if nothing else

[abstract night]

Senadina can
Sparkle, Kiana (maybe kiana but iirc shes LoA, WS, and heavenly sum)
Cant

[sharp fjord]

Okay ty ty! im gonna start saving now🫶

[copper shale]

thats right, and so, as an alternative option for those who dont have ss sera and if theres a long transition phase, then you can just use the p1 team

the whole point is just to highlight that ely does not rly have a off so rotation, and so she suffers more for not having ss sera than other valks

so thats why ppl even tried p1 team in the first place

[edgy drift]

I mean, she has an off-SO rot just like she had an off-ult rot

both were ass but you gotta do what you gotta do

[copper shale]

well i suppose so that theres nothing you can do other than suck it up, but thats the reason why p1 teams was brought up

anyways tho, if she does have ss sera then she pretty solid

rn tank and heph should be hers

[edgy drift]

and Kasumi and kalpas

[copper shale]

not kasumi at least

[edgy drift]

except if heavy ranks on other p2 valks

she shits on S0 lantern every day of the week

[copper shale]

her dmg is techinically lower than lantern, but she beats lantern out for being able to turn off so with ult like songque, so she can speed up rots faster, so tank is ely, lantern still has kasumi, kalpas no one tested yet, but im not surprised if kalpas goes to ely

[edgy drift]

are you considering S0 HoH or SS for that ?

[copper shale]

sss vs s0 lantern

[gleaming imp]

Which p2 valk doesn’t

Lampbad

[edgy drift]

ain't no way that's lower dmg than S0 lantern

[gleaming imp]

You should use S2/SS/SS1 HoH as basis as that’s the more common option

[copper shale]

the acc tester who did the run at the time had sss

s2 one he hasnt tested

[edgy drift]

Last Kasumi in RL (493D) S0 lamp was still a lot lower than the HoH Beta runs on 515

I see up to 810 with SS Sera

SSS HoH on Beta is 836+

well no to be fair she also has ranked supports here

forgot those mb

[rustic sinew]

Need new year skin

[copper shale]

well either way, supposed they were all equal ranks, and it takes sss to beat s0, you can prob treat lower ranks as roughly equal

[edgy drift]

man it's such a pain to find beta stuff since the CC accounts get way too high ranks

[copper shale]

well u have to look at bilibili

and watch streams

if u really want to know everything

[edgy drift]

anyways I expect Hoh buffs in v3

she be a bit underwhelming

[copper shale]

she is, but im also hoping for no nerfs to kiana even tho she op

[gleaming imp]

Real, I want her to be way better than she is currently

[edgy drift]

Kiana can take a little number crunching

[copper shale]

no

well yes it wont hurt too much, but it be nice if she didnt get any nerfs

[gleaming imp]

No, Kiana needs to be strong as possible to appeal to boomers like me and our nostalgia

[edgy drift]

imo it'll hurt more if she doesn't

[copper shale]

i guess, for sena havers

[edgy drift]

raising the bar too high means future units have to follow that bar

[copper shale]

that is true

[edgy drift]

and the first year of p2 stuff gets left rotting

[short knoll]

she wear the same thing on both of her legs, wont be real

[edgy drift]

I'm all for every unit bringing a similar power lvl but filling a different role

and eventually you replace them with a better one, but not every unit needs to have all numbers higher than the previous ones

[gleaming imp]

Just make Kiana the exception since it’s Kiana

[copper shale]

well we'll just see how they decide to nerf kiana then, as long as her chain dont get hit too hard, she'll be somewhat fine

[edgy drift]

Well she'll keep her specialties either way

which are SD and mobbing (kek Sena dps)

[copper shale]

right which is the chain skill for mobbing and sd? sd mostly fulfilled by havign que tho

[edgy drift]

That's what they want her to do, and that's what her new bosses are designed around

So she'll keep that

[short knoll]

i bet next p1 ice support will also make new HoH better, she will replace thelema as a support probably

[copper shale]

i jsut think theres too many rings

[edgy drift]

what p1 ice support ?

there's no p1 ice to support

[quiet fjord]

Kira

[short knoll]

we got new p1 support for everything else already, new ice support should be a thing

sparkle
teri
dudu

[edgy drift]

The latest p1 ice dps was HoH

they won't release a new supp just for SW

[short knoll]

who know, feel odd if we dont get one

[edgy drift]

I mean they could

[short knoll]

maybe p1 hoh will still be used

[edgy drift]

but the thing needs to bring 10x the buffs of Kira for her to even have any relevance

[short knoll]

doesnt have to make p1 hoh dead

[quiet fjord]

Hoyo know too many people love Elysia so they wont just leave her die like that

[short knoll]

new starless weather for p1 hoh

[edgy drift]

watch them shill not pulling the dkey

[copper shale]

man sw was the most disappointing unit i pulled

but she is waifu

no regrets

[terse ravine]

HoR DKey

[edgy drift]

I got her on release and she got enough use to say I'm not disappointed

[edgy drift]

Yeah that's not a thing that exists now

you already have a thing to pull to make it better, it's Thelema

[terse ravine]

Starless boss for HoR DKey would at most pin her against Thelema like Starless Andrius vs Mobius vs Vita

[copper shale]

same but idk felt like not enough usage tho, cuz hohe felt like she was released not long after sw

altho maybe it wasnt the case

[edgy drift]

5.4 and 6.0

january to september

[copper shale]

yeah, and then ice weathers became mech type enemies for the most part

[edgy drift]

I feel like SW still had a bunch of bosses for her

[copper shale]

ig, pe felt really good tho in comparison, used her for like 2 or 3 years

[edgy drift]

With Ranged Assaka and Kalpas

PE was the "herrscher of the year"

[copper shale]

dats true

[edgy drift]

and she kept getting dlc

[copper shale]

[edgy drift]

but ye SW overall was a low value valk (and it was expected since her release tbh)

[copper shale]

it woulda been more nice if her er wasnt just as depressing

[edgy drift]

SW ER is such a pain

[scarlet sapphire]

They also added an Ice weather Husk boss for SW around Kira's release

[copper shale]

thats for hotr no?

[abstract night]

What about aponia

Same position?

[edgy drift]

🚮

[abstract night]

Okay well was she good pre 5.8

Like nothing known about 5.8

[edgy drift]

even SW was contesting her bosses

[abstract night]

Huh.

[edgy drift]

Sushang had to be patched with ice res to get SW out

then phys res to get HoS out

[abstract night]

LMAO

LMAOOO

That is

Very
Very
Sad

[edgy drift]

they weren't beating Apo, but getting close enough that most people didn't care

[abstract night]

Was she better than nyx?

If she was worse than nyx....damn

[edgy drift]

That's like asking if a chihuahua is more dangerous than a kitten

[abstract night]

Hhahaha

Seriously tho lmao

[edgy drift]

the answer is yes, but like

[abstract night]

Oh okay LMAO

Yk i has to ask as the local (only) aponia enjoyer (not simp smh)

[hasty cedar]

@gleaming imp can't remember if you're an aponia simp too?

[abstract night]

They dont own lv or sci
Smh

[gleaming imp]

I'm a aponia simp since I like her personality

[oak yarrow]

sure

[hasty cedar]

[glass nacelle]

btw they added ring icon for AO

[abstract night]

The please one?

[gleaming imp]

I'm sure she wouldn't even need to use or say that if she met one of her simps

[hasty cedar]

speaking from personal experience?

[gleaming imp]

[willow perch]

[gleaming imp]

[glass nacelle]

ded

ppl is busy playing hsr

[naive briar]

https://x.com/chibi0108/status/1596102852363300864?t=bLk7xzW4vkPf6EpqFGvqqw&s=19

ちび🐦️Chibipiyo (@chibi0108) on X

miHoYo Cross 2022 Aponia story:
Come here, lost traveller. Please forget all the troubles in the world and have a rest here.
――おいで、迷える旅人。俗世のあらゆる煩悩を忘れ、ここでしばし休んでください。
#崩壊学園 #HoukaiGakuen2 #GGZ

Twitter · Nov 25, 2022, 11:25 AM

[short knoll]

already dead without hsr

[gleaming imp]

Isn't that aponia image not allowed here iirc

[short knoll]

not that nsfw

[naive briar]

that is the same Aponia outfit and it is official media

[junior nova]

When I saw that in ggz I was shook

I thought it was a fan art when it flew around on twitter

[naive briar]

sorry my post shook you

[short knoll]

pretty sure i can't post some of the official stuffs in ggz here
tho she has the same outfit, the pose can be problematic

[naive briar]

some, I agree. This one believe it is a contrain by throns

[steep axle]

Today i will login to hi3 and get 15 free pulls 🤤🤤🤤

And fight myself to not spend them for dudu weapon

[naive briar]

go pull

[steep axle]

No i need ely dkey 😭

[rain isle]

[robust crane]

is new kiana taking any bosses from songque?

[rain isle]

My guess is probably the mobs one

Idk otherwise

[glass nacelle]

she needs songque for sd stuff kek

[robust crane]

[copper shale]

songque complements kiana if anything

[feral epoch]

ded

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

new year chatroom

[terse tinsel]

[prisma tartan]

[strange crystal]

Is the Carnival Supply 50-50? Or it'll be similar to Battlesuit/Equipment Supply that have "A" and "B"?

[terse ravine]

HI3 banners always rate on except dorm supply.

[willow pumice]

No 5050, like normal battlesuit

[strange crystal]

Thank you! Glad to hear that.

[glass nacelle]

bait banner

[strange crystal]

I'm only pulling using free pulls. I'm just thinking if I can hope of securing another Thelema this time since I was able to S2 her last carnival supply using only free pulls.

[vernal depot]

Guys can someone help me with teams and rotations for the current abyss? My best was 644 (Agony II)

[strange crystal]

tetris

[vernal depot]

Facts

[muted mauve]

[glass nacelle]

where trio

ely L

[shrewd socket]

we rolling with that anyway

spopo whelbait

[oak yarrow]

those weapons

[shrewd socket]

wait i didnt see 💀

[vernal depot]

I don't talk about weapons

[sinful crown]

[supple furnace]

Smh gambling addiction

[muted mauve]

Kiamei watching their handholding

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

cn wat u expect, their 2% ma scores is sea's 0.2% lol

[vernal depot]

Should I save for Sena, sleepy teri or Lantern considering the characters I already have?

[slim lion]

But but +10atk

[tulip holly]

omg

is it today the new event

where we play the bosses?

[gleaming imp]

Omg besties

[abstract jungle]

no

[tulip holly]

get sena, new kiana and AR ely then get lantern next time

[ember locust]

Ofc Sparkle is a f*cking BiS...

Well at least Vita and Elysia DK works

She might remplace Sparkle for me (bc I don't have Sparkle)

[oak yarrow]

sigh

someone trade my lantern in for sparkle

why is her support so relevant

[abstract night]

Did u think ult cd red and tons of sp would not be relevant..?

[steep axle]

isnt cn more active than sea

[oak yarrow]

no one needs sp

[abstract night]

Did u think ult cd red would not be relevant..?*

[oak yarrow]

how would i know she buffed loa so hard

her kit is ass for other rings

[gleaming imp]

Actually question why did you pull lamp? I knew from beta she was lamp bad

[oak yarrow]

because i didnt have beta

shes truly one of the valks of all time

[gleaming imp]

I didn’t have beta, I just watched videos

[muted mauve]

The only other option at the time was Coralie.

[gleaming imp]

Would thelema senawho corabad be enough on lamp shill at that time?

[oak yarrow]

at that low disturbance u had to cook lantern extremely well to outscore coralie support

[gleaming imp]

Lamp bad even more real

[oak yarrow]

i only had sync 2 coralie at the time but i was very close to lantern score

[abstract night]

She just supports 1 other singular ring

And LoA

[muted mauve]

Sparkle could have a attack that does 100% of the enemies' Max HP and I wouldn't pull her.

[gleaming imp]

I knew she was lamp bad from the stiff go girl give us nothing animations

[gleaming imp]

But sparkle is so 🛐

And she’s vitas new bestie

[muted mauve]

But the Collab was so

[gleaming imp]

But vita and sparkle slaying together

[muted mauve]

the only thing being slain the quality of the writing and characterization

[inner cloak]

Pulling Sena in 2025?

[steady granite]

hey, her skin is amazing

not being able to use it is cringe

[gleaming imp]

How did my trio (left) score lower than this other trio right? My trio score is 685 and the other trio is 704

Am I having a case of skill issue?

[steady granite]

DS's plot armor gave them the extra points

[verbal mountain]

skill issue

[oak yarrow]

skill issue

[left peak]

skill issue

[gleaming imp]

But their DS is only S rank and their HoO weapon is 60 and their HoO is S2

[verbal mountain]

yes

that's called (massive) skill issue

[foggy tendon]

skull issue

[left peak]

But they have a better rotation than you

[gleaming imp]

But how can they have better rotation trio is just rinse and repeat . Exe

[left peak]

Great question, since that team is really simple to play

[gleaming imp]

How did they not run into sp issue with s0 hotruth?

[oak yarrow]

yeah and idk how u were 100 points behind my trio last time

[left peak]

Do you have SP lines on your HoTr?

[gleaming imp]

I don’t get it

[oak yarrow]

theres plenty of spots to sp farm

[gleaming imp]

Where?

[left peak]

You have HoTr QTE on?

You could opt for that followed with WA -> NA before mech transform

[gleaming imp]

Yes, rn im gonna try runs without qte on this time

[left peak]

You can dodge during that form to get +2 before you use her CA

[gleaming imp]

I already do that, what am I missing?

[oak yarrow]

do u see tank atking every 2 seconds

thats ur free sp

[gleaming imp]

With qte on SP isn’t a issue but I’m not reaching 700+ still

[oak yarrow]

just turn qte off and sp farm

[gleaming imp]

When does this happen?

[left peak]

Laser, field attacks etc

[oak yarrow]

every 2 seconds

[gleaming imp]

Where would I fit dodges in trio rotations?

[oak yarrow]

u can do it on every char
hofi is probably best

[ember locust]

Talking about her, do we know yet if Ely's DK is part of the Stellar Key set or not ?

[gleaming imp]

If nots a sp issue then it’s damage, how are they doing more damage than my trio with just a S DS and 60 weapon HoO and HoO at S2?

[verbal mountain]

rotation issue

[gleaming imp]

But it’s trio rotation can’t really have a variety to it

[oak yarrow]

either u arent doing the 2nd hoo combo or they are ringing earlier

[gleaming imp]

I am doing the HoO combo into malice

[oak yarrow]

but are u doing the 2nd one

[gleaming imp]

Wa and evade right into malice?

Yes

[oak yarrow]

are u sure about that

[verbal mountain]

might as well record

[oak yarrow]

if u were doing it right u would know u wouldnt do wa into evade or else the cd is bricked

[abstract night]

ITS EVADE WA?

Not WA Evade?

That would explain why i could never get her 2nd combo during lv breach..

[silent swift]

Do we know what will be Elysia's best astralop as a DPS?

[oak yarrow]

? it only applies to trio

[abstract night]

Oh

[oak yarrow]

theres tech that needs u to evade first

[abstract night]

Uhhhh

Oh no i dropped my phone and my phone died

Guess i gotta go walk my fish brb

[gleaming imp]

Good news and bad news, I got a trio run recorded, bad news is somehow I got worse and my score was 645 compared to my high score of 693

I do not understand how I am doing everything the same

[oak yarrow]

how is it possible to fumble trio

[gleaming imp]

Idk, how did get a 48 point decrease from high score on recent run when my first run was 683, I did worse than my first run

[ember locust]

Considering she's WoD, might be Songque or Sera

[gleaming imp]

https://youtu.be/mMydm3p13Jo?si=h1hDCERgwkkpZgJw

@oak yarrow help

I'll take a 15 minute break and make myself a cup of iced tea to help myself maybe more sugar is what I need

[oak yarrow]

ill watch it in 30 mins

[gleaming imp]

Do note this run is heavily scuffed since usually my previous were at least 680+

[oak yarrow]

why are u evading first

why is hotr qte on

[willow perch]

Scuffed trio run
Looks inside
It's a disaster

[oak yarrow]

just optimizing hotr could save at least 40 points there

[gleaming imp]

Sp issues without qte on and idk where to dodge with hotruth to get sp

[oak yarrow]

follow a nirvana run

[gleaming imp]

But everyone in nirvana has S2/SS hotruth so sp isn’t a issue for them

[oak yarrow]

so?

ur sequences are just entirely wrong

[gleaming imp]

So if they don’t have sp issues then they wouldn’t sp farm

[oak yarrow]

what ur doing isnt sp farming its just losing time

[gleaming imp]

I don’t get it

[oak yarrow]

watch a nirvana run

[gleaming imp]

But a S0 hotruth where?

[ember locust]

My patience just to get those crystals

[gleaming imp]

Everyone has S2/SS

[ember locust]

On the test

[oak yarrow]

there isnt one
u need to watch a run so u know how to rotate

u can worry about sp farming after

u probably wont be out of sp tho

[gleaming imp]

Idk what I’m doing differently trio rotation is so simple

It’s just a rinse and repeat

[oak yarrow]

watch a nirvana run

9s

or 8s

[gleaming imp]

What does the s mean?

[rain isle]

Valk ranks

9s for example means full SSS team

[gleaming imp]

Oh then my trio is 4S then since one s2 and one s0 and one SS

[gleaming imp]

I followed a nirv run

That's the best score following the run, another run also had the same score

My hotruth qte is on while theirs is not, last hotruth ult in these runs was barely enough sp for it so no hotruth qte = no sp for last hotruth ult

Their hotruth was SS+

[gleaming imp]

I still don’t understand how this one got 704, my highest score is 696 but their trio is less than mines and they aren’t running kiaelf which means no HoO qte in post Kiana ult

[abstract night]

Breech

Dmg

[gleaming imp]

Now that I think about it how did they do it? DS is only S rank, HoTruth is S0 so sp problems without hotruth qte, DS means no HoO qte to do wa evade malice, s2 HoO means no dmg boost from malice

HoO weapon is 60 which means less dmg contribution from HoO

[oak yarrow]

simply a difference in skill

[gleaming imp]

So skill can make up for all of these differential/factors?

[oak yarrow]

yes

[gleaming imp]

But that makes no sense they would only have hotruth as a option post Kiana ult since HoO switch will be on CD

[willow perch]

Skill > swipe

Skill, gameplay and timing can really be the difference between you bruteforcing vs someone who has ranks/better gear overall

[gleaming imp]

But I’m following a rotation not my own, the rotation should on top of my advantages put me ahead

[oak yarrow]

ur not following it right if u cant even 700

[abstract night]

Is it rl vs nirv?

[oak yarrow]

yes

[abstract night]

Skill issue

But im also one so

[gleaming imp]

I can only do 698

Only differential factor at this point I can think of is hotruth qte being turned off but if theirs was turned off how would they have had sp since it’s unlikely for them to have been sp farming since their DS is S they and their HoO is only S2

[unique swallow]

HTR qte is almost always turned off lol

[gleaming imp]

I've been trying but I can't go higher than 698

What could they done differently than me since the factor I thought was the difference is which was hotruth qte is off now but I'm still scoring lower despite having more going for me

Only thing I can think of at this point is just I have less DKs than them I cannot think of anything else

[oak yarrow]

u really think the dkeys is ur gap? ur scoring less than trio with 40d gap

[gleaming imp]

But we’re in the same D, and they scored 6 points more

[oak yarrow]

yeah im saying ur not following the ref right