#š®cn-gameplay-discussion
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I hope I remember once anniversary was like in April or smth even tho Iām always expecting it around February
everything Lyo do to me
Xd
anni is in march no?
8.1 should be both luna new year and unified global anni
Hopefullyy
yuh
I don't even know the dates of closed beta, it's just common sense that if public beta is v2 and v2 is soon then v1 closed must be before it 
so I would expect double S rank and outfits as usual. some people call it milking time for a reason
Weāll See, I think Iām gonna skip mini Dudu tho cuz sheāsā¦. Questionable
3 more days for dev video ughhhh
Another reason to skip dudu
we have not had anni after p2, maybe things will change
last anni was p2 start with Sena, Helia and a free dog
yes gramps, drink your water

if you at least alr have someone to cover physical (maybe img) for you, you'll do fine if you're in rl or below
ofc not comparable to dudu but it should be fine if you don't have enough crystals anyways
chances are there will be a lot of stuff to get in 8.1 so at least you shouldn't enter 8.1 empty handed
I mean I got all pt 2 except lantern⦠songque is doing fine (Iām at 1900 so nirvana next round, which I will definitely not be fine in)
Honestly idk I play whenever I feel like it but I do the most things tho⦠except most events and sometimes I forget memorial arena
I got 10k rn tho
Also we are getting Natasha in abyss rn whoās the best against her? Thelema?
pretty much that's the ice weather anyways
hows ur pity? it seems like you'll skip dudu anyways that doesn't look enough for dudu and her weapon anyways
RL: Thel Vita Sena
Nirv: Thel Lamp Vita
HoR, take it or leave it
why does šŖ win in nirvana though 

Nirv takes 2 Stellar Outburst, faster ring.
Raven P1 dies on Vita in RL fast enough, no need for 2 Stellar Outburst
I see thanks
No cuz ur right my pity is 90š
But Iām someone that can never save as soon as I have 280 crystals itās gone even on the most stupid things like advanced supply
Only reason Iām holding myself rn is bc thereās nothing to pull for
And dudu really gave me the ick even tho I love her
ah you really need to manage that
just try to avoid the supply icon and focus on your weeklies and stuff
around 8.0 for us would be public beta for cn so we'll know how much value is new kiana and what other freebies that we'll get
Starless Rita ?
i highly doubt that new kiana will be mid because its cny and there has to be a catch to make ppl pull in said patch
that's why theres the recommendation to always have enough crystals going in said patch just incase
Ignite
Oh wow Siringe in 2025
Omg sirin shill
If ONLY I HAD A HOTR 
wait why vita and sena in the same thelema team?
is that better than having one wod valk with thelema to provide other buffs?
Thel and Lamp is just inseparable cause of their great Intensity Synergy.
But Vita can covers that on first Stellar Outburst, and Vita deals big dmg to Type-Advantaged enemies compared to Lamp who deals cute dmg here cause of Stage Effects
Cool
does either new dudu or kiana have breach?
am very interested in getting both but don't think my xtals can handle it
Mini Dudu have self-impair, she provides neither Impair nor Breach for the team
team impair means that the valk can apply impair and the full team can benefit from it (HoS or HoRb)
self impair is more similar to prometheus, who can apply impair but the only one who benefits from it is herself
What does impair do?
What is bornvita btw?
New Durandal has impair for LoA teams
Marisa ur site is so awesome 
the lead only clause has been removed in live version, so it applies even if she's a support, we'll see when new kiana arrives
thanks! if you have any feedback or weird issues, let me know
DEF -55%
I see
Hey moriso would you consider small doodoo a must pull?
heck yes
pocket-sized nuclear bomb
also shieldbreak for LoA, and maybe for the other AR too
DEF reduction
only f2p not recommended to pull cus 8.1 spending event
What if I have 66.6k crystals rn but I'm f2p should I pull or not?
i guess its fine to pull, but better wait whats in spending event first
And currently my battlesuit pity is at 58
ye should be fine
but wait for a few more days, and see if it's like 7.8 spending event, where there's a new valk and a new divine key
in the 7.8 content teaser did it show a sneak peek of hofi's dkey?
ohh
oh man if they introduce another p1 with a dk idk if i can get that character if i don't have them
for the 7.8 one i hardly reached the milestone to get thelema outfit, i was very lucky that i got hofi from a previous supply when i was still a newbie
Ye should be fine cuz I submitted 5 beta guides so surely will get some crystals from them
Nah we want Ego Divine Key

I am mentally unable to correctly ping mods in #account-linking-raffle
@fervent hinge check there!
NEW DKEY??? ALREADY???
Ayoooo what
Herrescher inside helia

Helia redemption arc
still bad
unless they give her a dkey
time to lower helia rank from the asterite guide
The soonest dkey given was BKE/AF right?
With uh
9/10 patches
helia follow her idol footstep at being bad and need upgrade asap
||Dudu?||
I think thats her idol from what I learned in the latest glb chapter
I didnt pay attention previously 
im referring to dudu, yes 
Whats wrong with d- oh
VG- underwhelming
BKE- Extremely underwhelming for an S rank (got af later)
DA- idrk
PE- nuke...for imaginary..
VG was an A rank but like
genuinely will do soon
already went from SSS Helia + Coralie to favouring coralie
she was good at the time before sn was released
Helo
cuz we barely had quantum valks iirc (still do somehow)
So.. never?
well
She released after sn?
before
I honestly don't remember
Damn im not old enough for vg dps
all I remember is at the time if u didn't have sn VG was the best option around
I only remember HoT and uh
So before FR?
I only remember HoFi and HoO 
I remember HoT with DoS on HoDom
yeah just checked 3.8 so after sn in 3.5
I also remember pardo mobius eden/fischl thing
FR was 4.2 if u meant her
nanah
FR was also farmable ...iirc
I could be wrong*
ik cuz I was super happy fr got released for quantum cuz VG wasn't able to gather and quantum enemies spawned all around
yeah she was still is surprised how I haven't put her to SSS since then but I had other priorities
SN could gather?
Yes
Oh yeah i guess so
with her ult to enter veliona
Trust the plan Helia gonna be forever meta

Yes and that detail was explained in the transition chapter between part 1.5 and part 2
I swear... Please next Helia battlesuit, don't be underwhelming
The current one she has is ok
Not too bad nor too good imo
But ye they should gib her a stronk suit next
Welp she released at the beginning of Part 2
Ofc it was going to go that well for her later on
Yuh
She still sees some use if peeps don't have some of the S rankers
I imagine, at least.
nah, for new player who doesnt have other S rank, they can't even afford helia gear in the the first place, make her useless still
asume they have WS dps, they would want to build coralie and stop
also no wp
I hate ice bio
you hate sw?
Let me guess, no Thelema ?
Rii^p
was going to say good score until I saw it was agony
but good job
Maybe ill try again tomorrow
HoR can't do enough damage according to a video I watched
And back then disturbance was low so
type counter is terrible 
I mean not enough dmg just affects score... unless the rotations are shit
@mighty frost
Counter type is worthless to do, with a PSY valk don't even hope to finish Raven Ice with a good score. HoR is not that good anymore, true, but still useful if you don't own Thelema.
yeah I mean I don't have thelema so that's why I'm saying this
though hor does have a bad rotation from the few times I've played her so
im so excited for Helia suit whenever that is
I am excited for Kallen's new suit
Kallen?
I thought roza and lili were more likely for a new battlesuit
Or maybe that's just me wanting them to release those
inb4 new battle suit is not Helia but Mei
ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ

LMFAO I Dream of that too
Apho mei wen
how about simulation Mei
Ew no they'd probably make her a child
Hopefully no one else gets the simulation curse
And if they do hopefully it makes them look cool and not child like
I mean, Mei and Bronya are likely to get such treatment if Durandal doesn't suffice
Isn't it related to that characters "inner desires"? pretty sure vita talked about it in the story
Bronya and Mei arenāt allowed in the sim anyway due to their Herrscher status I heard
The simulation just want nothing herrscher like entering it
But child Dudu is cool :C
yea but its like they ever took "no" for an anwser :p
loli Fu Hua...
Either way hopefully we get more valks in the sim as we are losing people in the sim 
First Sena now Coralie like numbers are dwindling
bruh i wonder how Dreamseeker feesl on people dying like flies
can't wait for simulator to bug out and instead do the opposite of loli 
idk what the term is, grow up?
That was in Part 1.5 for Honkai apparition
got the Fu Hua design ready, just need 3D model :D
From what we saw she was sympathetic to Helia over Coralie death and went a little weird and crazy over sena though that was kinda more due to Leyla I guess
They are not even Herrschers anymore, due to Kiana's siphonning
what happend to grisao
They arenāt but they probably still have remnants of Herrscher powers possibly
Being a single parent
"most of their power is taken away so they can kinda go into the sim" they can do something like that
P2 theme is about losing some and how to go crazy over it. Aka the homecoming of lament of the fallen 
ye
optimal avatar moduleā¢ļø by ajita that Vita activated. According to Vita in ch 4 it creates avatars based on the persons inner desires (though it's probably a lot more complicted by Ajita's dialogue in ch 6)
Letās just hope that whatever happens to Helia with possibly getting new powers makes up with the people we have lost incase for any future foes they will have to face
Mei goes in and just becomes Kiana
rereading how it works I wonder if the built-up of Helia's struggle of who she wants to be is to prepare for her avatar change
then boom new S rank done
I do wonder If Helia will get her senses back
Mei goes in and shows Litrost how to truely use a sword 
hope they have cool glitchy animation for that
merge
I know its not but what if they made Litost just be from genshin, no nothing no refrences or nod just straight up genshin character what would you all think lol
I've gotten over it by now, but I know some ppl will rage 
I can def smell a Kiana vibe here
oh yeah
The debates I've seen/participate when Sparkle is announced (Edit: more specifically, Sparkle in main story)
"this will ruin HI3 reeeeeeee"
that was me and i still belive that
but that was talked to death now i want to be happy
Same
Tbf to have her introduced they basically threw all of Vita's character development out the window
i just want to see Helia and what will happen im so exited
Honestly sparkle if she wasnāt in the story probably wouldnāt have made any difference
Hoyo does what hoyo's want, what can we do 
Bro, Vita is just Otto 2.0
But just want to do shit
how are they remotely similar
Doesn't antagonist vibe and actions sounds something to you
Vita doesnāt really seem to have some huge goal in mind as far as we are aware so Otto might not fit
Otto was a villain, Vita so far is helping
Otto' motivation is Kallen tho, Vita is just Vita
Basically what I said : #š®cn-gameplay-discussion message
She's doing shit because she wants to
Exactly, she just want to be free
From Sa and do her own shit
Ye, so different from Otto
Vitaās only goal seems to me anyway is to compete with leyla on who has the biggest metaphorical god wang if you get what I mean
Possibly
I'm not sure that Vita is helping that much, she just ruined DS over and over and even deleted Sena 
Vita @ Leylah is basically: The more you stop me the more I want to fuck up your plans
the heck are we even playing the same game
wasn't there a trailer with the flamechasers for hsr?
Which unfortunately makes dreamseeker collateral 
so far the new cast seems to heavily ref flamechasers
Dawg yes, Dreamseeker just is a freaking collateral DMG bc of memory loss
Sena has no correlation to Vita sheās only someone Vita remembers and used to snap DS out of her trace made by leyla
the new guy definitely screams kebin
vita just does whatever since she doesn't have a main goal anymore
but the whole mars situation does interest her thus she's helping rn with a small level of trolling
Vita used that memory to break DS out of Leylah's control, how tf is that ruining DS
who knows, fair is definitely not something hoyo is taking into consideration
personaly i think its not fun to just rehash characters i wonder when the fate collab is
i won't be able to answer that bc i know nothing about hsr
but maybe
I hope we get more from Vita and what her goals are instead of just doing this a favour to kiana as kiana shot Sa across space
I think itās in the 3rd or 4th quarter of this year
Vita has been the system operator since prior to Kiana falling asleep
Favour feels like an excuse tbh, she probably just wants to entertain herself imo
Makes sense
Sheās already spent millions of years exploring even if it was being a proxy so thatās probably not on her to do list
especially when she just does whatever she wants, not to the benefit of the team at times
She did that when Leylah wasn't even there in the first place
Lol
Vita is trolling with everyone if she wants to
...entire starting sequence of Ch 4
multi colored DS eyes, unnatural obsession with finding sena
@ember locust

E x a c t l y
vita did also reveal leylah that no one even noticed
that was an important discovery
Vita is the most objective focused of the group.
What if Vita knew about Leylah from chapter 1-3
if you read you would not say that
Bro what
N o
She's not the most focused
Entire Ch 4, teri and DS play house, Vita keeps trying to put them back on track
At the end nukes the city to bring out Leylah since DS and Teri don't want to do anything
They would probably go to Helia at least from chapter 6 onwards
In chapter 4 there wasnāt much for them to do anyway
im suprised no one got put on for psychology well being duty after all the Honkai stuff lol
She's the one who is constantly trying to either:
- Have the cast focus on the objective through direct or indirect means
- Either streamlines the process or pushes it forward through her own means in the background
Thing is it's her own objective she's following tho, kinda like a wild card
Bro is arguing with the literal lore cc
thankfully it aligns with the cast I guess
She's more a wildcard than a serious thing, she just has her own interest. If she wasn't interested with Mars or Leylah, I don't think it would go like that
Vita's whole bad-woman facade is but one of her ways to push things towards the objective. Something noted by Fu Hua herself during Phosphorus arc.

On objective yes most focused no as she still likes messing with the cast such as constantly calling Theresa
(Though my PoV is not objectif bc I didn't do everthing of the last arc before P2)


Rita does the same tease plus some touching to Theresa and you don't call her that 
After all if it works it works
And she gets entertained even better I suppose

She definitely is the kid that finally got out of her controlling parent grasps so she goes all out on being a "rebel"
do not the granny 
She is indeed most focused one but she isnt really good with feelings. I think the solution here is to be somewhere in bettwen honestly forgot what i wanted to say lol , oh yea she is clearly holding back information
Since Salt-Snow Vita has been pushing for the best result for both sides.
Be it the common goal or her personal one.
Idk if best results is the right way but most objective ones and the simplest ones
clearly she knows something we dont that she ven keeps from the cast so who knows what the writers will do
Okay this is cute I wouldn't mind this
What I do have a problem with is them de-aging characters and then not giving them modest outfits, its super fucking uncomfortable
EW
dudu chest window
biggest gripe I have
Background info this is old celestial Fu Hua who shapeshifted after getting drunk
equipping this item will disable you from walking in a straight line on the map
Like why not give her a shirt, she's literally got that casual surfer attire
Or skater kid
EW Siringe
XD
for Bianka other than making her small AND unzipping to show undergarments it looks okay
zip the damn jacket up
This tbh
Would have probably pulled instantly if not for that
dont care myself people become so sensative to character designs lol
I am sensitive to HoT Mei's heel height damn it
Wait I forgot she has heels
Isn't it just top?
there is a lot I can comment but probably not here
dont get me wrong smoll dudu would still look better zipped up i think. im not offended but i dont think chest window works here
Remind me when are we likely to get info on the teri aop
weekend
Oh cool
Not too long
We get the teasers and basic info around the time we would get v1 beta before
The beta opens for sharing around the time of previous v2, which is about a week between both
i just want to see new trailer aaaa iom so hyped
I'm betting a chicken sandwich that she gives crit conversion for LoA 
Doesn't sera do that too btw
Sera is WoD only
I meant the crit conversion
Ye, but only for WoD
For real, how tf she's that tall to the point of having Ely's height stop to Mei's torso
Idk I find it kind of fucked up that people are desensitized to it lol
Lmfao wtf are they doing with models and scales
the other way, Mei's height was nerfed
Tbh when I look outside I see 12yo dressed with worse so atp 
Nerfed ? how ?
also the raiden tower exist for woman to look up onto plus Elysia is small
That too is uncomfortable but I think the fact that an adult consciously chose the design makes it worse
I can't find that gif of apho mei awkward waving sadge
The Raiden Tower ?
And I actually wish thatā¦
We can find a win-win solution.
Tbh if you blur the picture a bit it you don't notice the window and it just looks like a sporty outfit, which makes me glad that my eyes and brain are so shit I just don't notice it unless I pay attention closely 
š oh real, I see 1st-grade girls with full makeup, heels and fancy sexy-ish outfits
and I don't question much anymore...
My mind litterly dosnt register is as bad

Bro what
wat
Kids nowadays freaks me out.
I just think the world would be a better place if the media didn't push the idea that minimal clothes possible = more attractive
1st grade. any more discussion goes #off-topic-discussion methink
Rita isnāt really in the story now all we have is a flashback from Helia
So it doesnāt count
sure. the whole part 1 doesn't count
Rita is forgotten since Kolosten
what was it? 
And never had much of a development
I only remember the amount of HoDom Rita and Durandal fics
What a waste
Ohhhh


SPA should have had an outfit that matches dudu nibelungen
kek
If you forgot her, it doesn't mean writers did.
But Spa is supposed to parallel Dea not PE
But outfits are not lore accurate so who cares 
I mean I'd take a red dragon SPA too ngl
Rita appears in flashbacks, she is also mentioned in story and she is in lore file (talking about new Dud profile pictures).
They apparently forgotten to the point she's not even doing something in the last part of part 1
SPA got such shit outfits
But there's that
But the base is so fine
Shes a dedicated captainverse character plz fogibe
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She just got 2 bikini skins and one had nice vfx
Rita was the one who thought of the plan to cut off Kevin's shadow
Canāt you just use enough light to do that, just use a torch
/j donāt kill me
Man. I can't even run Vita-HoFin-Lambda because of lightning down 
Am sure Bronya can summon enough of them to cover every possible angle
lmao
in Kevin's mouth
Well. Time to run Vita-Lambda anyway
Bro is so icy, the torch would turn off before even reaching his mouth
After refrigerator and congelator, we have the Kevingerator
Lost like 50 points because I messed up timing so didn't trigger Lambda qte so I had to manually weapon for stacks but got stunned by Rita but I'll take it.
Whose lambda šš
Ai
Omg is that phanon
Kevin Kaslana
Phanion from hsr
The original one is Kevin Kaslana though
Really so like variants like in marvel
Big cabbage
Essentially ye
Omagah phainon from the hit game honkai star rail 

phainon>>>
Cay did not like that.
its like that but i think hi3 doesnt have paralel universes as far as i know
so if you fly enough in space you can find yourself
It has both.
It has both same-face people existing throughout the Cosmo (that's the relation between HI3 and HSR)
And it has multiple timelines existing
wait since when there are multiple timelines
Since like 2018
Wait no earlier because GGZ and HI3 were originally written as being diverging wordlines starting from Nagazora. (clearly no longer the case but the concept was there)
what the hell
Did you not play Thus Spoke Apocalypse ? 

exactly!! also like what is up with honkai characters having one legging but not the other??? girl why are you wearing half of your clothes
and the fact that only one battlesuit (iirc) has pants and not an extremely short skirt/short
That's just Hoyo being obsessed with asymmetrical designs
true
You can even check Teri aop in the first pin, she has a random leg belt because F symmetry
The torso would be symmetrical but they got the hair to go over on one side
One arm has an extra medal under it
hoyo is allergic to making functional/regular clothing
Hips have the emblem on her right
Why are we questioning Otto's craftsmanship 
its zzz hsr and genshin too, i don't understand it
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Tbh I think zzz has a lot less of those
comparatively to hi3 where it's pretty much all of them 
not counting belts that actually carry things its only 4 in zzz, less than i thought
Wait that's an actual fun MA 
i lowkey forgot it was last story i ever red
Dudu boss
ye
i wasnt expecting him to be just
kevin
in C
It's the test examiner checking if you're still qualified
i thought it was that goofy aah baseball bat kevin
Does the sena outfit in 8.0 have VFX?
nope
Kevin ā ļøā ļø
Free skin so no
Oh hell no, not Parvati again ā ļøā ļø
Is there any news on if there will be any free cny awards? Cards? Free valks? Etc
Not yet
Only things we know is free skin for Coralie, Kiana SD as the featured valk of the patch and Theresa AstralOP
Seeing the images it seems like we're getting 2 other skins
Teriteri aop bait easy skip would rather use 4S kiaelf instead
Don't go so fast, you don't even know her kit yet
There might be a skin for Vita and Luna seeing the article sent by Marisa
Kiaelf "free" teriteri aop is not free

Hence why I precised up things
Also since HoHe was given during 7.9, there might be something up in the air
Some free skins do but it's rare 
And recently all of the given free valks (except Sus/DEA and HoO), there was a new summonable DK
HoS got the Brick DK
HoFi got the Waxing Moon DK
There is some pattern going on
I need brick.......
damn? surely this isn't 485D scaled properly
so all of them except half of them 
doesn't sound reliable
Is that phys Assaka ?
prolly proper D then, phys assaka is a massive victim 
so squishy these days
Boss disappears for ages, comes back and gets flattened.
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Which is funny because it dies in pretty much the exact same way as when it ran on HoS release 
Not the release one but I'm pretty sure this was its previous appearance 
https://youtu.be/Ps2pXHOs_0s
I'm not sorry about the thumbnail. :pepelaugh:
#HonkaiImpact3 #Exalted #Abyss
he's always been tbh
Bc the last valks given last year, we were not in P2
Yet
(Except maybe HoO which reran somehow as F2P event)
Only HFI was in p2
(and she wasn't given for free she was a spending event shop thing)
Yes that too
Also, recent DKs were not given to normal valks
So in terms of pattern, there is none 
Only Herrschers one
I know you know shit, we all know you know shit but don't try to disguise it behind random bullshitery, just don't talk about it

HoS was given for free in 7.1, DK in 7.0
HoFi could be bought in spending event of 7.8, DK in 7.8
HoHe free in 7.9, DK ????
Okay they aren't all free but seriously
There might be something going on
We will see it later on anyway
(Though the timings are weird ngl)
because there's no fcking pattern
you're just running your confirmation bias
Dawg
That's the shit = the last time they appeared either for free or either in speding event
They got a DK
Ofc that doesn't mean shit
but you're also voluntarily excluding all the other characters that we got for free and didn't get a dkey
where my hoo dk then 
But you cannot say its not possible
There's like one or 2 characters out of the Herrschers who got a DK and that's it. Also @foggy tendon, HoO was first given for free in 7.4
At her first apparition, HoO was free
(When I say "out of the Herrschers" it means "excluding the Herrschers")
(Wrong formulation from me)
AF, An-utu, Oath of Judah, FHD 
Okay 4
tho FHD was more of a meme it had an intended use
Fenghuang Down if I'm right ?
What about that Flower of Sentience
Wait hold on...
Was vke or bke given for free before/a little bit after their release 
I think nottt
Tbh, unknown for free, I didn't even heard about the game when they both released
*for me
Theres no way to confirm dkey schedule 
ā ļøā ļø I'm not one able to confirm
Both were still gacha only when the dkeys released
BK being accessible very shortly after iirc
I rember getting her S2 very soon after
tho idr how
I think it was more bc bke was.
Beautiful :D....ly trash at her release right?
Well
Not trash but just underwhelming
yeah def after AF release, I have a vid with AF and still S0
But before AF pri, that one has S2 
ye, she wasn't great
Vill V was in the same position....but never got dkey treatment so she kinda just ...meh
Oh and shes quantum which went downhill after FR release..ish maybe nyx. I cant comfirm completely but yeah.
FR was good but just because she was a support
But wasnt she also just quantum fire not fire quantum?
The combo of underwhelmingness : Fire and Quantum... Vill-V was really not lucky
Nyx was designed to only be good at that one thing she does so her multipliers just didn't hold on other stuff
VV is the same but she had the added plague of the gear added character banner on release meaning she was absolute garbage at her own job without at least S2
Ah
So quantum dps's fell off, and because FR was also a support (and a dps technically..?)
Nyx was also underwhelming iirc (poor may releases :( )
Hoyo probably didn't want to repeat SP and SN that were just good, well, everywhere since nothing was type negative against them
So they purposefully made their mults underwhelming with some qua exclusive buffs to lock them into it (tho Nyx at least also had mobbing bonuses)
Would u consider thelema or lantern the may release?
Thelema was april 25th, and april was early june..ish
But since qua weathers barely ever run, well people don't really care about that thing that only works there
Then vill v was just hitcount
And
Vq was just bleed
And
Sparkles instakillish
Teri is.. FR²? In terms of well like ..idk
Well VV's hitcount was just to make her qua bosses more annoying to pass for other valks
because they understood atp that we didn't care about their qua valks and just slapped it with other ones
Huh
And just what?
Wdym by that
The best qua valk at the time was MPE 
There others better
we just didn't care about qua stuff, because just dodge lol and attack it 'till it dies
So slap an awful mechanics on the on the boss
The 2nd best imaginary valk at that time was also mpe 
So they added extra restrictions to VV's bosses that she solves to make it more annoying for others
Do u think nyx was a good or bad valk? Like in retrospect
If u were active back then, i might ask someone else this if u werent
MiHoyo fibally learned that to make QuA characters valuable they just need to ignore boss mechanics offer good QoL with Teri and Sparkle.
We said she was bad back then, still say it now
she was mid on release
and only got significantly worse since she's pretty tied to HB
Damn lol
They just need to give 4 collapse triggers that you'd have to wait a minute for the boss to proc by itself (but then they made their bosses collapse themselves anyways
)
I rember the first Couatl run after Nyx, she lost to SP 
Damn
Damn A Rank in disguise of S Rank
Her S3/SS2/SS3 is especially mid...
I mean, the lead skill upgrades are for almost every valk
Well its also tied to bronya...or kinda just hb 
Idk why they did that
I mean half her kit is tied to HB being in the team
the lead is the least of your worries
Well. Its more like
Tied to hitcount not hb
Hb is..the only one who has the insane hitcount.. 
(Also with cb19c)
I mean, the requirement is stupidly high
...sadly
Intently designed so that no other valk could ever provide it
Even if you had a Luna on field at the same time it wouldn't be enough
40 ice dmg hits for just 1 carmine gash and rime trauma
*45 
Its specifically
(Offield) Ice dmg hitcount tho right?
yeah, I just meant that even Luna's crazy high hitcount isn't high enough to satisfy the condition
and she's basically the highest hitcount valk we have beside HB
Okay no there's Lantern now

forgot about her
But ye Nyx specifically needs ice hits while she's on the field
Yeah
So is she just
Ice aponia? 
Or i guess aponia is lightning nyx
well Aponia doesn't care about hitcount
The middest valk of today VS the middest valk of history
and wants them while she's "off-field"
I mean she does technically..
Lightning dmg hits*
But she also has paralyze as an alternative
but not the number of hits
True
just that you have something on field and hitting
And lightning
can someone list the differences between songque and the new dudu battlesuit 
I hope the ice p2 Valk that supports p1 ice valks make hor compete with thelema

In terms of?
Songque better since you can simp 
i don't have any characters that synergize with songque atm this is for my alt
The only common point is being phys, everything they do is different
which one suits with vita in a team? dudu or songque
Vita dps?
Neither
Vita supporting?
Both work
the only probably decent support i have is coralie 
so vita can only support them
or support songque dps

just figuring out team positions
Pull new kiana for your songque since she's LoA and songque supports that iirc
Both suits as Vita supports both. Both are physical DPS, the difference is that one would be used more for IMG Content noticeably and could also work with P1 charas (HoRb etc...). Songque only works with P2 characters and scores in the SD weathers
Also
Wait for infos about 8.1 if you are F2P bc there's a spending event coming up soon
this is for an alt
and if dudu doesn't suit the team comp than i probably would've skipped regardless
and I have yet to get songques sig weapon so...
songque can dps with HoRb and promy still 
would be funny using HoRb lead with songque dps and dudu support though 
When she first released, it worked indeed
Lol, you would just destroy Que's potential
Bc the biggest part of her DPS is in her SO
Which means you have to use the P2 valk that you want to DPS with if you want to use is as the DPS
i like triple combo attack though 
what is "the team comp"
team setup 
I have a question is there enough time to reach goal yes or no? 
Looks like at best 2 days
By goal I mean 21 days
drya
look at the time left
no
unless it counts if you do it today then do it at 12AM tomorrow then do it the next day at 12AM
keep dreaming
u had so much time to do it
I did do it every day, I just don't know what time as in how much time is needed to pass for a stream to qualify as a day
I know it's a hour but like how much time needs to pass for a new day to count like when does the timer on it reset
just stream 24 hours for 21 days ez
12:00 afternoon gmt+8
I wish I knew that before wasting time 
u could have asked
so you can have 2 more daily
I didnāt think of asking 
It is? If I do one rn, I can get another one later on today
I havenāt done one today yet
do it
On it

one now, one after 1 day 12hr, one more after 0 day 12hr
Thank you 
first 10 pull of dudu banner is -50% off?

was the 10 pull discount for all p2 chars? ik vita's was free
It's always 50% off. Vita banner happened when she took over AI chan as the Honkai admin and gave out free pulls as a token of friendship
She's a lonely birb
sena first banner doesn't have it
the 50% off was given to songque aop
is this a popularity or sales chart?
can you give the link
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not bad earnings
thanks. the other games looks fine and they compare multiple source
it does look a bit off but only for HI3
what am i looking at
last year revenue
blue is every other regions outside of cn
If they're putting it by month, for Hi3 everything is shifted over a month later for glb so they don't line up on the same releases
Indeed, since glb players do actually have more time to decide which valk to summon since there is that offset of a month between the other servers and the CN one
(Which is an advantage, since we just get the infos of the open beta from diff youtubers : Marisa etc...)
Is this sales? :0
Oh it is nice
Pc being a huge chunk of the earnings damn

im talking about total number, after some math
cn = 27090
glb = 21458
my first impression was wrong, CN>GLB
but still feel like the gap should be bigger
Hey can someone come help me on beginner help pls
cn pc
My queen vita on top
š
vita really can brute force everything
:o I thought it was pc in its entirety
So there's like, glblul pc as well?
no
Kyut
cn pc server
:o
Dry once again experiencing the power of normal banner

Vita S2 though
additional 50% Lightning DMG
sankyu
When will we have info on what the skins are?
So on 10th not the 9th?
should be
Noted
I still can't decide if I should go for dudu

Around 10k crystals rn, maybe a few hundred more(I'll check soon and edit this comment if necessary)
Just pull dudu with 14k xtals and get 14k xtals from raffle, essentially a free dudu 
14k from raffle? I thought it wasn't for glb
We get them
The xtal prize pool is like 1/5 of cns tho
400~18k
weird, i've seen less than 400
Maybe because theres more than 750,000 people idrk
Just a guess
Its 300,000,000 (million) xtals right?
300 million million? I dont think the prize pools that high

Fine ill put it in parenthesis
Its 60m?
Yeah
OH for us?

60m is too much
Then theres 150,000 people (assuming)
1 patch for how many months ?
Assuming everyone gets every 400
Its HoV outfit trust
Isnt eu like 50k or smth
Is eu even 50k
Could u count them for me? :^)
idk if this is shared with na
should be timewise

Im stealing that
yours arrive ?
it's should be shared with NA/EU/SEA/TW/JP/KR
not me, but it's arrived for tgat person
Btw do i really need to finish p2 main story to avail 8.0 crystal raffle?
Can i do ch 5-7 without finishing ch 2-4?
Yes.
Cuzz p2 main story UI is kinda bad compared to p1
I don't even know what story i playing until I've seen litost discussions in #šhonkai-lore
that channel is full of nerds and text walls



no judge me
No I'm staring back at ningyo
Cope
My second wife
no war in glb
soon , mine still in shipping
agreed.
Does Durandal have 3 AR tags?
Yeah, HSS, HS and ???
^ shadow, qte, and unknown one
they“re already cooking on the fifth AR-type 
While we didn't even begun to have explainations all of the Astral Rings in the lore, WTF
We didn't even get an explanation of the Astral Rings power though
if we would have gotten a full explanation the story would be less catchy to find out the mysteries of mars
True though
we don“t need to get spoiled like little brats 
What is this self report
stellar key what? eh just alien dk 
idk still rubs me wrong of them not having context at all
not sure if that changes in upcoming patches
Bro confused Astral Rings with Divine Keys... No it's not the same thing
i wasn't, just equally annoyed with the lacking explanation
Whats the verdict on small dudu? skip until more 8.1 info?
Wait for 8.1 info to take a decision if you are a F2P, since a spending event is coming
I have enough for everything shown for 8.1 if i do pull her but ill wait for more info
nou 
Sparkle/Songque/Vita/Dudu, pick 2
don't forget Teri op
how's songque+vita vs the other combinations? guessing sparkle dudu is probably the best because newest?
any idea how songque op gonna do vs teri?
beta is not out ._.
We ain't got a clue the valk isn't out yet
Wait for release for any numbers question
I said Teri op because we had trial play in the new year event
got it
The only thing we can say based on current valk things is that Vita has big buffs but slow, Songque big dmg but lower buffs and medium speed, Sparkle lowest dmg buffs but additional utility and very fast
how far ahead is cn beta usually? like what week of this patch can I expect info about the next patch?
Friday/saturday should have full beta info
got it thank you
But numbers for Kiana won't be final until she releases out of beta
Songque won't really have any bonus ARi and she only buffs elem dmg while 2 out of 4 of the possible valks are phys
honestly don't have enough to pull this patch for dudu, I'll have to see if Kiana is worth pulling for based on me having vita and songque but no sparkle or dudu
I mean, she'll most likely be good
Even if you don't have her best team, because if you skip for that reason then you'll skip the next one because no Kiana = not the best team and you never pull 
yeah fair enough, after 2.0 there has been a lot of cross element stuff so not having a dedicated fire support doesn't mean bad team
Spork isnt even a fire support 
she isn't? haven't played much this patch, thought that's what she was
She's a p1 fire support but a p2 WS dps, WS support and LoA support 
P2 valks aren't restricted by element for teambuilding, they're restricted by AR tags
Well for spork and lantern they have an extra fire buff somewhere still but it's not that significant
makes sense, only p2 valk I've seen get used commonly as p1 support is teri for supporting luna
need to figure something out for my p1 stuff ngl, get cooked every time starless environmental pops up in abyss
Well spork is a good fire support for p1 too, just that it's separate skills from her AR stuff
eh don't bother much with it, just brute force it with p2 teams
investing anything into a p1 valk atp is a waste
have a good susannah bleed/physical team and cope luna team but they almost always fall behind p2 brute force
yeah, only recent boss that was better with p1 was vill-v and that was because of her bleed shields
Well no there was 3 in the past 3 weeks but still 
thanks for the info, I'll go ahead and skip dudu and pull Kiana and maybe Teri op if I can save enough
Don't bother with Aop if you already can't get all the valks
I mean Kiana is SD which means she has no type disadvantage and since lampbad sheāll probably do well on lamp weathers since last lamp shill I used vita and got top score on bracket
sorry, didn't mean that, meant better vs my teams
Did I just see that the crystal pool is 300m.. WHO NEEDS FHAT MUCH?
would have enough for Kiana and have two others for support, valks are 90 pulls without weapons and most of em need their weapon, aops (songque that I've had so far) are 60 and offer decent buffs to a lot of teams I can make up
give me your share then thanks
who said u would be getting 300m

I wouldnāt recommend aop as a f2p when SS DS is a option 
it's 60 less for another valk you'd pull (and most aops barely bring anything before SS) 
It's just a proportionate to the numbers of the players in server
For example, GLB servers will only get 60M
confirmed?
No I'm just surprised how it's that much š will it like be shared across or given out in full?
what about songque ss? worth it or not anymore?
songque ss is giga ass
shared between players obviously, they won't give millions to everyone 
Any aop is not worth as long as you can't get all valks already
Spread out to players and the amount players get is random, though expect to get bare minimum
i got the dryatrentiay blessing so im obviously getting 17k
Manifesting for you good luck

got it, thought might be worth it since I'll have some to spare when Kiana launches, guess I'll just save
Ohh! Alr ty for telling me!
The spare is for saving yes 
Awa I have a question how do you know when the CD on a character stellar drain or the thing that lets them add numbers to the AR is done
my problem in making my run with vita hofin coralie against is knowing when to coralie for the stellar drain so my vita can acess second AR 
stellar drain doesnt have a cd
u get 1 per char
refreshes after ring
it's once per SO
wod each char shares the same 3

so 1 can do all 3
Ty 
yesu
You
Us
Took me time to find it, might need to search again just to be sure (unless Marisa gets here lol)
but is there any confirmation for that besides just their word
i need an image 
hyperion
Thank you Carv, I was searching for it lmfao
and the other server
Have in mind that's it's shared between all servers though (except CN)
I have been looking for the source. Where did it say shared between all global
art book is not shared between all global servers. each has their own count. please give sauce
Wasn't it 300M ?
Huuh artbook was not shared fairly
yeah each server gets a specific cut from hoyo
na and eu got 12.5k
sea got 25k
cn got a lot
doesnt add up this time im just bad at counting
My head when I tried to searching for the infos
no I mean the lottery this time. where did it say 60m shared by all servers?
The same source says that we're getting a share of the 60M ~~Okay they didn't precise between all servers, my bad ~~
it didnt
im just assuming
because 60m seems too generous
but hoyo could be turning over a new leaf
maybe this is the end of hoyoscam
^^
thats just because each captain isnt getting 60m
not that the servers split 60m
okay thanks. I keep seeing the claim but nobody give the source to "shared by all servers"
60m is way too much for one server yea lmao
Assuming 50k players that's an average of 1.2k
no way they're that generous
1.2k won't break the bank
Getting half of that prob
The minimum is 400
crazy
50k players? in na? funny joke
we could barely sell out the artbook
we have 6 global servers
that would mean 10m per server on average if it was even
based on the raffle thing from not long ago EU and NA should be roughly around 40k each
Yeah there's no guarantee lol
They could give less or more based on the width of the playerbase
80k total ?
Or both combined ?
each
ill trust u on the math because i dont know the numbers
but lets be real theres not gonna be 40k players that actually do the missions
na slacc is too strong
ill give it 20k at best
I didn't do the math either but I can find the reddit post that did if you want 
Yup so 80k total for both combined
ok give
for the key event there was a few hundred thousand entries for na and eu each
Please 14k for my Kiana OwO









