🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[soft prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-vita-vita-kiss-blowing-vita-blowing-kiss-vita-hi3-vita-gif-17161950355512251636

[muted mauve]

People who don't know the story commenting on it is always... interesting...

[sinful river]

But I thought PayPal was well-established and wouldn't do that…

[muted mauve]

If you're gonna question decisions because story then at least now the story

[unique swallow]

Is this sarcasm

[soft prawn]

I don't get who Carv is talking about

[main goblet]

completely trusting a famous company in this day and age is uhm

[willow perch]

We should get back on topic

before I am forced to become green

[unique swallow]

MOOOOOTS

[naive zinc]

so uh

[soft prawn]

🤖

[unique swallow]

KHAIKHAI IS HULKING OUT MOOOOOTS

[mild owl]

well established = better legal team = more likely to do legally questionable shit and get away with it

[willow perch]

And if I am forced to become green you wont like it when Im mean (Actually Bruce Banner)

[naive zinc]

can new Kiana be Vita support

[willow perch]

HAHA

[glass nacelle]

https://bili2233.cn/IBGecEA
Wtf he got free s0+2 valk

[soft prawn]

I main Bruce sorry

[main goblet]

kiana isnt roo

[soft prawn]

holy CN luck

wtf he also got atk affix and bp

[unique swallow]

RoO found dead in a ditch

[main goblet]

possible the other way around thi

[naive zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/guroteske-emo-wolf-gif-26967313

[soft prawn]

did HoFi have harmonized shadow?

[unique swallow]

No

[glass nacelle]

Nope

[willow perch]

Fine I can settle on harrison Ford red hulk

[soft prawn]

then new kiana LoA and harmonized shadow easy guess

[glass nacelle]

And useless then

[soft prawn]

gonna hope for a potential ???

[unique swallow]

We already have so many hss valks

[short knoll]

nah, kiana LoA and locked skill

[main goblet]

the focus will probably stay at the loa ring i guess

[unique swallow]

She's anni valk she definitely will have it

[unique swallow]

Wow shocker

[muted mauve]

Honestly. I only care for Rice Cake.

[soft prawn]

🙏 please make 8.2 - 8.5 battle pass have Tericula wife so I can use the raffle BP on that 🙏

[main goblet]

i mean it
like how mini dudu can support wod but there is barely any talk about her being a new bis for that

[plucky cradle]

wait is 8.0 the last patch for this bp

[willow perch]

8.1 is

[soft prawn]

8.1 is

[plucky cradle]

ok

[willow perch]

8.0 is adding Dreamweaver

[short knoll]

still feel like 8.1 is too weak for what we got
high chance that i dont get enough for spending

[soft prawn]

if there is a valk given out at 44.8k for spending... Im done, Im surely not reaching that

[main goblet]

same tbh

[unique swallow]

Because she's not

She's just there

She doesn't replace anyone

[soft prawn]

actually, nevermind

[unique swallow]

She's an alternative

Thelema/vita/sena/ScI are still better

[main goblet]

[short knoll]

she has HSS so you can cope with sera

[unique swallow]

Also that

[unique swallow]

I am

[main goblet]

hmm theres the possibility that teri aop would be made for loa

[unique swallow]

Wow

[feral epoch]

shocking

[unique swallow]

Incredible deductive skills

[mild owl]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-daring-today-spongebob-spongebob-meme-daring-today-arent-we-gif-23808696

[short knoll]

not possibility , just 100%

[unique swallow]

Because why would the new aop not be made for the new ring

Truly

[main goblet]

if i don't say that ill probably still get the same response

[unique swallow]

My mind has been expanded today

[feral epoch]

roo aop fr

[naive zinc]

ew

[short knoll]

good

hope this spending has AO

[feral epoch]

coping

[glass nacelle]

Roo doesn't have special effect like resonance dmg, shadow dmg,... => roo doesn't have op trust

[unique swallow]

Cope

[short knoll]

can't think of a better pick for this spending

[shrewd socket]

what's AO

[short knoll]

free PE?

[feral epoch]

ew

[glass nacelle]

Free v2v

[short knoll]

skip

[shrewd socket]

didn't they give PE on spending already?

[feral epoch]

free 620 crestls then

[unique swallow]

Yeah

[short knoll]

since kiana is fire, she probabbly wont be the new p1 ice support

[main goblet]

looks at hotr

[somber egret]

Universal Support curse

[glass nacelle]

Inb4 kiana can't trigger sd point => she needs que

[main goblet]

and kira

[glass nacelle]

[shrewd socket]

HoTr is on BP so they can't give her

[unique swallow]

Imagine she can => songbait

[glass nacelle]

[unique swallow]

They put benares in BP right before they released handel btw

[short knoll]

kira does lot of dmg too, to replace her, kiana should do big dmg, shouldnt be possible if fire

[glass nacelle]

Ice weather - 50% fire kek

[main goblet]

i mean even if hoyo wants to continue the p2 being a p1 support, they don't need to do it in a row
like how we have vita after teri ands before sparkle

[feral epoch]

i just hope she won't have clunky mechanics

[unique swallow]

It's LoA valk

That's like

The opposite of clunky

[feral epoch]

fire debuff

[unique swallow]

You might be right

[main goblet]

but i commented about hotr BC she's ice yet a fire and lightning support
but eh best to just wait for dev video

[muted mauve]

Surely new Bio before 2026

[sinful river]

Dev Live stream on Bilibili should come around next week right?

[unique swallow]

It doesn't matter what type she is because her predecessor AE also did no dmg

[glass nacelle]

New bio before gta 6

[shrewd socket]

it's funny how ppl who said it was gonna be an outfit's argument was just the eyes

[main goblet]

sparkles fire support capability is for p1 only yes?

[main goblet]

im not talking about the valks dmg, but what type of buffs said valk can provide

to others

[muted mauve]

I want new Kiana to have a bunch of skins because Rice Cake deserves a bunch of outfits.

[unique swallow]

Comparing HTR being able to do what she does to kira being able to do what she does is different

[ember locust]

https://x.com/marisahonkai/status/1874758903407444357?t=RF7NozLlICxJQfoqSMPBag&s=19

Crazy... Time to spend all of my crystals

Honkai News Network (@marisahonkai) on X

HI3 v8.1 New S-rank Kiana
- Name: 咚！炽愿吉星 (Rought tl: Boom! Blazing Wishes)
- Type: Stardust
- Element: Fire
- AR: Law of Ascension
- Weapon: Pistol
https://t.co/y9uwDUVPCu

#HonkaiImpact3rd #Kiana #Honkai81

Twitter · Jan 2, 2025, 10:05 AM

[unique swallow]

Kira has a lot of personal dmg along with her buffs

[main goblet]

yeah but like i said im not talking about the dmg

[unique swallow]

The dmg is relevant if you're going to be talking about a kira replacement

[muted mauve]

Remember to give her headpats and a lot of rice cake

[main goblet]

im just saying that just bc kiana is fire doesn't stop hoyo from making her have a buff for a non fire leader
and ofc with the current p2 s rank trend, she can be both a support and dps

[unique swallow]

It won't happen

I sincerely doubt it

[main goblet]

im not talking like a general buff but a specific buff to a specific element for example
sorry that my messages are a mess

[plucky cradle]

hope she'll also have stardust instant break like Songque

[somber egret]

[feral epoch]

only loli valks have that p1 support skills

[plucky cradle]

cheese

[ember locust]

Kiana is getting everything of it

[unique swallow]

I love her sm

[somber egret]

No, get Songque

[plucky cradle]

I mean I have her

I just don't wanna use her

[main goblet]

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/caking-form-kamen-rider-gavv-kamen-rider-henshin-henshin-belt-gavv-gif-8968190673907175951

[plucky cradle]

one whole year without a single new bio suit is crazy

[shrewd socket]

turn her into a cake roll instead

[ember locust]

B r o ? What is that

[main goblet]

fov staying strong lol

[sinful river]

Benaresbros we are so back…

[muted mauve]

unrelated

[somber egret]

more like bio staying forgotten

[ember locust]

FoV going to be powercreep soon kekyo

[main goblet]

i wonder how how long would fov be relevant considering that her last update is a new fire support in her team

would be funny if fov's replacement is a new fu hua

[plucky cradle]

let Hua retire omg

[versed garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/605901234087657472/1322957444527161437/Kiamei.gif

[gleaming imp]

Omg the nostalgia

As a boomer I approve of this valk choice for cny

[short knoll]

skip

spending need to be godlike to make me pull, doesnt feel like a cny patch

[main goblet]

i want to send a joke but im with you on this one

[thick prawn]

[verbal mountain]

doesn't really make sense but not like I can skip sd without suffering...

random dream event kiana that's just cny in design

[rain isle]

[verbal mountain]

hmmmmm it's almost as if they're just making kiana for cash grab

[gleaming imp]

New Kiana is now new fire brute force

[short knoll]

cope with sena and songque

[rain isle]

Why are all the peeps I like SD?

Guess I'll still have all the SD valks lol

[versed garden]

🤝

[north karma]

Shes fire?

Huh

[plain veldt]

that's a snake with sheep horns

[main goblet]

fr my main dpses are stuck to being mech and sd rn

[north karma]

More sparkle stonks?

It really just keeps rising

[shrewd socket]

literally CNY themed valk
doesn't feel like CNY
???

[north karma]

[main goblet]

will depend on new kiana's kit tbh

[north karma]

True

[main goblet]

since she's loa she still got vita, que and dudu

[north karma]

Did they show any gameplay or

[main goblet]

nope

dev video next week

all the current info is in pins

[north karma]

Oh shes sd

Cool

[rain isle]

She'll be bonking people with those drum sticks idk

[north karma]

A whole 7 days of speculation

[rain isle]

Multiple rapid bonks for combo atk and omega bonk for ult

[main goblet]

lmao

[shrewd socket]

imb4 ult is taiko

[main goblet]

what if kiana got the same thing as Susannah's ult

[north karma]

Who was last cny valk

[nova osprey]

Sena

[main goblet]

cny was in 7.3 iirc?

[shrewd socket]

Sena

[rain isle]

Ye last cny was 7.3

[short knoll]

talking about the value, CNY usually has 1 cheap and 1 normal valk, high chance that i can get both and spending milestone for cheap
but with 1 valk and 1 ao, the value aint the same

[main goblet]

yea then sena + coralie + helia
and aponia was free during that patch

[ember locust]

FoV about to retire for Kiana incoming lol

[feral epoch]

sure, we'll see later in beta

[main goblet]

still no new bio valk

[feral epoch]

if not same value

[north karma]

With the way theyre moving they might rerun the dkey 8.1 and release new roo the next patch

So yeah

[main goblet]

will hoyo introduce a new banner or that carnival banner to bait ppl to spend on it
there has to be a catch to it so ppl would want to pull in it

[north karma]

Ohhh

[versed garden]

high chance for carnival since it's cny tbh

[main goblet]

bc if they just do the same thing in 7.8 with no change, that won't be enough for ppl to wanna pull tbh

[versed garden]

what are the chances for another dkey?

[main goblet]

hofi's dkey can rerun
not sure about a new dkey

[distant lagoon]

ngl i expected that as new outfit and not as new battlesuit

[versed garden]

imagine HoFi with new kiana and vita

[versed garden]

rice cake deserves a battlesuit

[main goblet]

new kiana + dkey kiana + kiana elf

[versed garden]

just missing kiana aop and another kiana suit

[distant lagoon]

yeah but a battlesuit with base form being cny themed... i don´t know mate

[versed garden]

full kiana team lets go

[short knoll]

i expect that to be new skin for the new kiana, not default one, since it has CNY theme, which is unusual

[versed garden]

Hmm

[short knoll]

dont think we had a default valk that is tied to a holiday

[main goblet]

all i want is that her model doesn't feel awkward like in that animation

[main goblet]

the model felt awkward to me ngl... i like this pic tho!

[distant lagoon]

okay to the outfits: one of the outfit is clear who gets it, one i know to 90% who gets it, the last one i have no clue

[versed garden]

someone with long white hair that goes below the waist

time to go battlesuit hunting

[main goblet]

the only one that i can't think of that matches the letters that are censored is lv

[distant lagoon]

don´t let it be Hare plz

[main goblet]

[versed garden]

so hare, Luna

actually lemme go ingame

[verbal mountain]

reminds me of luna

[distant lagoon]

HoFi

[short knoll]

may not be her hair

[versed garden]

Luna it is

[limber egret]

Long hair Kallen

[main goblet]

i wanna think of more but i can't find a list online will all the valks with the Chinese name
so ill probably will have to change the ingame language to Chinese ig

[nova osprey]

Imagine its hofs

[versed garden]

HoFs already has cny themed outfit

[distant lagoon]

she already has a cny themed outfit

[nova osprey]

Just make more ez

[meager thorn]

new cny kiana looks good

wonder what the outfits are

[versed garden]

Hope they make Luna spending valk

[verbal mountain]

looks like it should've been a hofi skin, not that it's ugly tho it's pretty cute

[nova osprey]

Nah its gonna be horb

Luna is next next spend event

[verbal mountain]

nah it's gonna be bill b

[nova osprey]

[meager thorn]

probably but honestly im not complaining, isnt this the first actual cny cny unit in the game?

[distant lagoon]

first outfit will be LP

[meager thorn]

and not just a skin

[versed garden]

Oh?

[main goblet]

is there a pattern to the free valks in spending and events or it is random bullshit go?

[meager thorn]

random bullshit go

[verbal mountain]

yeah and imo that's the problem, it's a valk that focuses too much on cny

[meager thorn]

but mostly theming and release

[main goblet]

hmm

[ripe urchin]

i really hope Sparkle wont be her best in slot support

[verbal mountain]

so she'll be unique for a patch or two but then her outfit will kinda feel outta place if she does ever show up outside cny

[meager thorn]

I think it woulda been better if they did 2 valks one A rank or a free S rank

[feral epoch]

they don't do outdated valks for skin anymore, especially if that valk already have a free skin

[distant lagoon]

both fire, Sparkle supports Law of Ascension chars... looking bad for you

[meager thorn]

that way she would be a celebration unit and not the focal point of the patch

[main goblet]

they can release a new outfit for the same kiana a little after

[verbal mountain]

surely 🅱️ita and Songque will be better

[verbal mountain]

[ripe urchin]

time to backpull

[nova osprey]

Her bis will prolly be sprokle vita

[meager thorn]

surely vita will be viable for her cuz I'm on 12 to guarantee and sparkle dodged me like her life depended on it

[verbal mountain]

songque could be good if she need to break SD breakpoints

[main goblet]

isn't type coverage another important factor?
that makes que a good contender for a bis team

[meager thorn]

ill probably snatch the new dudu and then save for the entire patch

[void dawn]

also Sparkle ult cd reduction

[ripe urchin]

i can already bet that Sparkle will probably get a rerun on 8.1

[meager thorn]

does dudu need her wep? (coping)

[main goblet]

ofc

[nova osprey]

Yes she does

[prisma tartan]

yes

[meager thorn]

sena didnt need it for thelema teams.... sadge

[main goblet]

if they do the same thing in 7.8, they can try shoving as much valks as possible in the same patch

[void dawn]

bait patch core

[meager thorn]

guess ill hope dudu reruns in 8.1!

[distant lagoon]

nah Sparkle ult forcing QTE is more relevant than the Ult CD reduction

[glass nacelle]

Yes, ~~after spending ~~

[void dawn]

wait you're right

[glass nacelle]

[main goblet]

ik there no info yet but the fact that both new kiana and dudu are the same ring makes it easy for her to rerun there

[glass nacelle]

See theresa case

[main goblet]

im expecting 2ish normal reruns with new kiana
some supply to shove most of the p2 valks in
and maybe if hoyo doesn't care about sena anyone she can be free or just shoved in that same supply

[distant lagoon]

tbf that that Theresa gonna be AOP was pretty much clear because no one would see SImp in such an outfit

[ripe urchin]

by the way when was the anni?

[main goblet]

that makes me wonder if big dudu from p2 story will show up in a different form

[distant lagoon]

glb was on mid march and 8.1 starts at Feb 20 so definitely in range there. have my doubts if it´s gonna work next year with CNY and glb anni in same patch

[main goblet]

considering the glob anni time and cny time, its more than easy to just keep both of them in the same patch

[rain isle]

Y'know, I realised something a few mins ago

[main goblet]

mhm?

[distant lagoon]

yeah but the actual anni would be technically in week 5 for us which is kinda late

[rain isle]

Kiana, in her art, is holding the sticks like one long staff (aka they can connect into one I assume).

Does that mean she might play like Wukong a bit?

Y'know, a similar fighting style?

[zinc gorge]

[distant lagoon]

wait 7 days to see the gameplay

[rain isle]

Fr

[short knoll]

high chance

[distant lagoon]

we only got teases and somehow the full art of new battlesuit and AOP

[rain isle]

If that's how her gameplay turns out it'll be hype af for me

[short knoll]

tho she could also just do a few move with the staff then use her gun

[rain isle]

I'd also be happy with that

[distant lagoon]

looking at HoFs

[rain isle]

Some staff action is never bad

[main goblet]

i mean they can also treat it as a trick staff and make her have ranged animations

[gleaming imp]

Omg the nostalgia

[willow perch]

Uncle Kiana all growed up

[prisma tartan]

from gun to sword to staff

[distant lagoon]

Uncle?!

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-vita-vita-kiss-blowing-vita-blowing-kiss-vita-hi3-vita-gif-17161950355512251636

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/vita-chibipiyo-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-4787064776639033678

[prisma tartan]

vita vita vita

[main goblet]

jack of all weapon animations

[distant lagoon]

still have the assumption that the first outfit in teases is for Vita

[willow perch]

Captainverse reference

[rain isle]

LMFAO PERFECT

[willow perch]

Now we just need new Kiana suit to reimagine this image

[rain isle]

[somber egret]

She getting bigger

[short knoll]

as it should be

unlike certain girl

[steep axle]

What the hell

I go to school and something always gets announced

[naive briar]

[somber egret]

[distant lagoon]

the tease date was known for weeks

[steep axle]

Does anyone have link for announcement pin

I cant see pins for some reason

[versed garden]

here

also this

[short knoll]

no pins for phone user

[fervent hinge]

maybe buy a pc to read pins

[smoky hemlock]

press magnifying glass then press pins

[willow perch]

Skill issue

[distant lagoon]

buy a pc just to read discord pins? seems like a great deal

especially when you can do it on mobile already

[thick prawn]

[brazen crater]

is there any news about aponia upcoming skin

[distant lagoon]

what aponia skin?

[willow perch]

What aponia skin?

Where did you hear about that

[brazen crater]

sorry im just asking if it exist

[willow perch]

._.

[verbal mountain]

not to our knowledge

and the way you asked about it makes it seem like there would be one, which we don't know rn but idt it's likely

[willow perch]

Doing my job for me

Thanks

[distant lagoon]

there are 2 aponia skins: 1 cny outfit from last year and the summer outfit from 2023

[verbal mountain]

aponia too oldge

[naive briar]

you too old

[verbal mountain]

i'm a minor

[willow perch]

Minor on discord

ban

[distant lagoon]

that´s discriminating

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

[verbal mountain]

ancient relic on discord? ban

[naive briar]

[willow perch]

dw Piyo we see you too

🍧

[naive briar]

where is the no buli promise

[willow perch]

No buli you go enjoy shaved ice snack

[naive briar]

in winter

[willow perch]

It's free!

[distant lagoon]

khai for most of the people it´s winter now. it´s not the time for an ice snack

[willow perch]

Why are you explaining this to me like im an idiot?

[distant lagoon]

you could offer something different

[willow perch]

Blood pressure rising

[naive briar]

when I was in SA I see santa surfing in bikinis. maybe time for Khai to

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/surfing-santa-claus-beach-wave-gif-15891999

[naive briar]

that is some amazing torso muscle for their age

[willow perch]

Don't let the extra 'comfort' fool you, Santa does acrobatics

[steep axle]

That doesnt exist either

[smoky hemlock]

press the name of channel

[steep axle]

At least i can send messages

[steep axle]

Nothing happens

Help %2 charge

[smoky hemlock]

What’s the “A….” And the two people

[steep axle]

That shows channel description thing

[bright flame]

welp was excited for dudu but now I have to skip her

[willow perch]

Scuffed mobile UI

Atleast for u it seems

I'd joke about device issue but discord's mobile/tablet design is incredible (In the bad way)

[naive briar]

on mobile now and it works for me

[willow perch]

Yeah it works for me also

[willow perch]

Xiaomi device hasnt failed me yet

[naive briar]

rub the cat

[main goblet]

wtf what device are you using
maybe just look in the server search thing

[distant lagoon]

+1

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-squish-cat-cat-head-rub-head-rub-discord-gif-20128447

me when I catch birb

https://tenor.com/view/scratching-national-geographic-wizard-of-paws-replacing-a-dogs-prosthetic-limb-petting-the-dog-gif-23342152

And Dan

[distant lagoon]

why do i deserve to be pet?

[willow perch]

Because you're a good lad

[distant lagoon]

but i´m not an actual dog

[willow perch]

I'm being dogfished by Dan amagad

[distant lagoon]

yk i had a different pfp before

[willow perch]

[naive briar]

fun fact most of the green name tags has eatable name or pfp

[steep axle]

Mine is also xiaomi

I worked whole summer to buy it

[main goblet]

update ur discord or something ig
mine is xiaomi and it's perfectly fine

[fervent hinge]

how long do they last

[main goblet]

tbh discord does act up but it's not from my phone, some mobile bug shenanigans

[main goblet]

Xiaomi? ngl im new to this brand but i got this phone since 2021
i don't really have any complains

just the usual android shoving ads in my face thing

[fervent hinge]

I'll have to get a new one in the next 2 years probably but I'm sick of seeing phones just shit themselves in like 5 years

[main goblet]

same tbh

[dry delta]

they didnt send gramma (teri) to a gramma field with other grammas

[main goblet]

just don't buy any "cheap" version of any phone brand
i noticed that the cheap but new phones that companies makes is mostly shit
my grandma uses one and the ui stinks

[willow perch]

Got a Xiaomi Poco F6
Snapdragon 8S Gen 3, 512GB storage, 12+6GB RAM

Does well enough

[main goblet]

nice!

[distant lagoon]

khai how well are you technically equipped

[willow perch]

AUD$635

Abused black friday sales whee

[willow perch]

I do okay on the technical/hardware side, my PC could do with some upgrades however, just in the "waiting for something interesting" phase

[oak halo]

Is the supply shop still HoTr stamps in 8.0?

[distant lagoon]

...sure

[willow perch]

Didnt see anything related to 8.0 supply shop changing

[glass nacelle]

#flex-device-discussion

[willow perch]

Flex these hands over this silly doge

[glass nacelle]

[willow perch]

Me when I GET you

[unique swallow]

rice cake

[willow perch]

Chocolate shake

[unique swallow]

[oak halo]

Guess i can still consider whether to buy the stamps for another patch

[distant lagoon]

Black Forest cake

[willow perch]

Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, guava juice,
Giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, chocolate shake

[urban cloud]

Huh

[willow perch]

Damn, we got yougins today unfamiliar with Fairly Odd Parents

[dry delta]

they were odd

[north karma]

What a boomer

[main goblet]

there there lets get you to your bed

[fiery night]

Are pulling for astral ops necessary? I really only have enough for a valk and MAYBE her weapon if im lucky

My crystals are not doing so well rn

[main goblet]

while they're good you don't need to pull for them

at least if you're casual

[fiery night]

Ty!

[verbal mountain]

they're luxury pulls, it's better to get more valks

[urban cloud]

I have heard of fairly odd parents, just that I never watched it really

[fervent hinge]

completely unneeded until nirvana abyss

[abstract night]

Wands and wings and little crowny things

[plain veldt]

in chinese who has more symbols in name - Vita or Luna?

[rain isle]

Idk

What I do know, however, is that y'all need positive energy

[naive briar]

what is symbol

[plain veldt]

hieroglyphs

[naive briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202059618747158528/1324253519145996391/image.png?ex=67777ab2&is=67762932&hm=9a87c8d301d60cc975f9ccc27e46dd01cc95d8e7afb798930a1eec11880ce5f2&

[plain veldt]

thanks

[naive briar]

battlesuit length Vita 4 Luna 8
personal name Vita 3 Luna 2

[inner python]

So someone here said to foresake sparkle

What are the chances she supports kian again

Cause am about to lose shits rn

[smoky burrow]

Dudu the real bait

[long forum]

I ranked up to nirv right before bleed vill-v you have to be kidding me

[long forum]

I mean, fire type with the tag that supports the law of ascension. Very possible.

[glass nacelle]

don't think dudu is good support for kiana

[verbal mountain]

y not

does she have less buffs than the others

[glass nacelle]

dudu's special buff is shieldbreak

[edgy drift]

Say hello to SD kasumi

[glass nacelle]

[verbal mountain]

say hello to fire boss with fire shield on shieldbreak weather

[dry delta]

wait a min
sakura is real

[long forum]

I haven't decided if i want to pull dudu or not because my brain is telling me "you only have 16k crystals, save for Kiana" but the last time i made this choice was when i skipped SImp and i have been regretting that decision ever since

[fervent hinge]

Why regret

She's not needed

[long forum]

She's not needed but she makes quantum bosses so much easier, and also HoO dps

[edgy drift]

well you'll know what she does when we'll have Dudu out. You can't get both either way

[glass nacelle]

LoA support
dudu : shieldbreak
que : big dmg, trigger sd point
sparkle : sp regen, - cd ult
vita : breach

[edgy drift]

what does Teri have to do with HoO ?

[fervent hinge]

I've been finding HoO HoFi GD to be just fine

[long forum]

Breach

[long forum]

It is it's just annoying

[fervent hinge]

And qua doesn't get shilled heavily

[edgy drift]

She only gives breach to other Teri suits tho

[fervent hinge]

wait why

[long forum]

Is that how she works i forgot

[edgy drift]

I've never even seen a HoO teri team

[long forum]

Idk the rots just annoy me ip:

[edgy drift]

I've seen HoO dps in trio, HoO GD and HoO LV

[fervent hinge]

You're on HoO 90% of the time... sounds like you don't like playing HoO xD

[long forum]

It's mostly the schro balding that pisses me off

[edgy drift]

That's not a GD thing tho

[fervent hinge]

Just don't use schro

Become slacc

[edgy drift]

Schro was exclusively for that 1 single boss because the ult matters a lot more than anything else

[fervent hinge]

Like me

[long forum]

Wait true

[edgy drift]

And it lined up perfectly

Lower ranks couldn't run schro cause not enough dmg for it, higher ranks didn't need to run Schro becasue enough dmg to not double ult

[slate elm]

I want to say i have seen a quateri support to hoo once but it was prob ma for sus ani or something very niche

That or I'm just mis remembering

[unique swallow]

what in the qua support for img dps

[slate elm]

There's still some kind of buff. And qua teri is less sp dependent and more ma friendly

[thick prawn]

[small wing]

Oh yeah are we gonna get the rewards for the crystal raffle once 8.0 comes to global?

Or are we gonna have to wait

[feral epoch]

have to wait

[small wing]

[rain isle]

Huggo for everyone

[naive briar]

no thanks

[small wing]

Well at least that gives me even more incentive to wait till cn beta

[unique swallow]

Cheebee

[small wing]

If I got a crappy crystal payout it'd lower my chances at being able to get dudu and kiana

[naive briar]

I am sleeping ><

[unique swallow]

You will be

Realistically you will be

[glass nacelle]

good luck

[unique swallow]

I have 41k I should probably skip

[small wing]

Same here

[vale granite]

Gotta have that dependency chain trust

[unique swallow]

Wat

[small wing]

Biggest reason I want dudu is just because I have nothing to cover imaginary weathers

So I gotta songque cope through these

[vale granite]

A valk heavily depending on the last patch's one

[feral epoch]

same, but if you have songque full team. it's shouldn't be a problem in RL

[unique swallow]

Just wait for cn beta duh

[vale granite]

Well, Dudu won't help with Flower xdd

[vale granite]

Yeah, ofc

[unique swallow]

Dudu doesn't take many of the trio bosses lol

Bull is a struggle, flower is terrible

[vale granite]

Do you not have any other P2 options? Cuz Songque is terrible compared to stuff like Vita or Thele in that regard

[unique swallow]

Alas it's so hard as a f2p

Someone save me

[glass nacelle]

it's just no one test it

[unique swallow]

I did

[small wing]

I have vita and thelema too, but the first 2 weeks of 8.0 have phys weather IMG bosses

[glass nacelle]

but cn player not

[unique swallow]

I did it in cn beta

[vale granite]

Ah, you were talking about 8.0 specifically

[unique swallow]

Ok it's just 4 cycles it's not like you'll die lol

[rain isle]

As long as you retain it gud

[unique swallow]

Wait not 4

3 over 3 weeks

That's one per week

[small wing]

You're right I could do worse than die

[unique swallow]

That's not even bad

[vale granite]

In RL you're defo fine, in Nirv you just have to take the L sometimes

[small wing]

I could rank down to A3

[rain isle]

[small wing]

[unique swallow]

If you rank down to A3 over one boss per week you have bigger problems than no dudu

[willow perch]

Can confirm, watching your impressions video now

[unique swallow]

Ew why

[vale granite]

Cay makes vids?

[willow perch]

Because Im a masochist

[glass nacelle]

[willow perch]

God I love thel's emotes

[small wing]

Fanchuan was cooking with the shus

[versed garden]

since sparkle guide

[small wing]

Tbh they prolly beat out the FCs for me

[willow perch]

Ha

[small wing]

There's no shu I have a neutral opinion on, I love alla them

[glass nacelle]

who need to reset when u have 100% crit

[vale granite]

Everything comes at a price

[inner python]

Let's believe in the gamble

[small wing]

and obviously songque is prolly my favorite character in HI3 period

[willow perch]

idk Songque

I only know

QUASO

[inner python]

It's croissant

[inner python]

Should have been ate the croissant with Kiana
Quaso 🥹

[steep axle]

i wonder if kiana and mei VA are friends irl

[small wing]

[willow perch]

Wanna know a cute fact

Kiana and Mei's CN VAs, Tao Dian & Juhuahua, share identical birthdays (October 8th)

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

[soft prawn]

ping

[woven roost]

Is new dudu, uh, skipable

Like will skipping her effect my meta much?

[gleaming imp]

Yes she is if you have PE plus herrscher trio

[dreamy tree]

has it been verified what weapon ||the new kiana battlesuit|| will use

[main goblet]

pistol

also you don't need to censor that since its already announced

[dreamy tree]

so its not trick staff?

or maybe dual wield

[distant lagoon]

nope. just normal kiana dual pistols

[verbal mountain]

i mean she might use some kind of other weap in animations

she's holding a staff in her art

just her weap type is dual pistols

[ripe kernel]

are we really getting less and less p1 equipment banners

☹️

[gleaming imp]

Only thing left of p1 is ADV reruns and a adv debut for FoV and maybe dkey for like horb

P1 kind of left behind

Starless weathers exists though

[willow perch]

Good

[gleaming imp]

But nostalgia

Don't you remember the p1 valks you saved up for and built and spent so much time with and malding with them

[white nebula]

:( i still havent gotten over how we're pretty much abandoning the part 1 valks

[slim lion]

Thank god they are removing p1 in a ditch 35k for horb ain't worth it

[willow perch]

We are leaving p1 supply behind for GOOD

[slim lion]

Let star less weather die in a ditch alongside it actually

[gleaming imp]

But it appeals to boomers like me, what about us boomers

We should be catered to

[slim lion]

Nah u can leave the game sir

[gleaming imp]

[slim lion]

[slate elm]

give it maybe another year lol

[slate elm]

You already got your starless andrius weather. Don't make it sound like it hasn't happened already :V

that weather giving a 3 year old or so valk another wind was such a heist lol

[gleaming imp]

But more starless weathers please the nostalgia appeal for a boomer like me seeing my p1 valks be catered to

[still condor]

uh you also just got starless bull?

stop being greedy

[edgy drift]

You get bleed VV tomorrow

[slate elm]

it's generally been happening alot at the end of patches

[gleaming imp]

More boomer shill please I want to mald with p1 valks more

Malding with snek and with HoO yesterday was like some of the most fun I’ve had in this game

[still condor]

mobius 🤢

[edgy drift]

Patches still follow the same trend, first half for shilling the new stuff. Second half for random weathers and shilling older stuff (with a rerun accompanying one of those)

[slate elm]

also i'm definitely overreacting saying this and i'm sure you were saying it lightly but

hoyo doesn't need to cater shit. Don't give us another repeat of the bunny girl anni event lol

[gleaming imp]

But nostalgia

[slate elm]

nothing stopping you from malding p2 stuff with p1 stuff

[gleaming imp]

Usually p2 weathers aren’t friendly for my account

[still condor]

thats your fault

like literally

[slate elm]

they aren't friendly for p1 stuff but you can still attempt to if you really want to

but also you know the recommendations and structures of the game at this point

and you made your own choice about it

[gleaming imp]

I know, my account is rather stuck atm waiting for advs, it’s only got like herrscher trio, vita, HoO and mobius going for it atm off the top of my head

[still condor]

your account will always be stuck waiting for adv

[edgy drift]

they aren't friendly to 2 years old+ stuff and never have been

[gleaming imp]

Technically I have HoH going for it too but my HoH has somehow fallen off, before she got top 3 on bracket but last shill she only got, #10 idk how since last bracket was also filled with 12/12 HoH teams

[edgy drift]

because while you pulled for her ranks on every rerun, some people pulled gear instead

whith both being bad choices, but one of them being worse

but now there's also been some free rankups and bp here and there on top

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

abyss brackets also aren't going to be consistent

[still condor]

drya doesnt even have her supports geared

literally has the 1 valk and is surprised she sucks

[gleaming imp]

I use alternative gear

[slate elm]

well keep in mind there's a competitive standard that a majority of the playerbase is going to have

[still condor]

and alternative gear is shit compared to all the HoH simps that actually have her

[slate elm]

and on release that means s0 valk and full 4/4 gear

and as time goes on, ranks becomes more available too

[slim lion]

As if honkai is like friendly to alternative gear in abyss
ignoring last abyss

[gleaming imp]

Just you watch when I craft Bastet for my Kira

[slate elm]

i've retained nirv tc kasumi with willows before once

[still condor]

still shit

[gleaming imp]

Surely Bastet is a big improvement

[slate elm]

but that weather is so turbulent every time it comes back because it has more options

[still condor]

bastet is not cecilia, everyone that simps hoh has cecilia

except for you

[slate elm]

and the dist going up can lead to some really ugly cycles

[gleaming imp]

I’m poor

Also poor timing

[still condor]

because you skip for adv

[slate elm]

but yeah this is why high cost things that are close still aren't recommended

you're spending so much just to get something that will still do worse than everyone else

and you have to rely on people not performing as well as they should be to compensate

[gleaming imp]

Surely it won’t be the same with my p2 valks at SS investment

[slate elm]

surely it will

but i mean you like the shiny ranks and you take pride in achieving as far as you have despite these handicaps

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

as i've said before you made your choice clear in the past before

but part of making that choice should be awareness of what is to come and being able to accept that

[gleaming imp]

Surely my SS teriteri and SSS vita and SS Kiana can brute force in the future

[still condor]

nah theyll lose to some s0 valk

[slate elm]

surely don't count on it lol

but we can cross that bridge when it happens lol

[atomic coral]

brute force p3 valk weather trust

[gleaming imp]

I’ll just mald

[still condor]

when p3 comes around drya will be at 'p3 bad because p2 nostalgia good'

[gleaming imp]

Only thing I’d be weak on at that point is ice and phys but either lighting or fire could brute force

[gleaming imp]

I mean, I’d only go for p1/1.5 cast getting p3 suits still

If I had hindsight I’d skip senadina and helia weapon

Definitely helia weapon since it was given for free and was never rerun

[slate elm]

hindsight is always going to be 20/20

we had no indication that it was going to be free at the time

[gleaming imp]

Still can’t believe it was never rerun

[slate elm]

you can't just say that lol

yeah i'm still amazed they did that stunt

i wonder if helia is the least lived meta relevant valk at this point

[distant lagoon]

it was rerun lol

[gleaming imp]

When? I don’t remember her weapon getting a rerun other than debut on 7.3?

[distant lagoon]

7.6 and last patch for doing story chapter as an option

[still condor]

i dont see it on rentry or arustat for 7.6

[willow perch]

Same

[gleaming imp]

Follower of the enigmata?

[still condor]

i love making shit up

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/food-gif-24382277

[distant lagoon]

it definitely had a banner rerun

[willow perch]

I have zero memory of one and supply calendar also says no

[gleaming imp]

Herrscher of skem?

[still condor]

if it definitely did then it would definitely be documented in either calendar

[slate elm]

https://rentry.co/76cn i'm too tired to deeply look through this but maybe check this too

[willow perch]

That's exactly where I am; No mention

[slate elm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nbw6Kn8PqZTBrFztAq19qJeYz3LqktIvqSj10lyRZ44/edit?gid=1836432905#gid=1836432905

[gleaming imp]

That reminded me that’s the patch I got my HoH via adv from, I remember malding her shill for top 3 that was fun

[slate elm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H49n0I7_NTT-XTbHvmCsdgPeOGMR-bOrt0gk_1AIVgk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

other resources to cross check with

[still condor]

neither of these mention any reruns, only new stuff

[slate elm]

hm nvm then lol

[willow perch]

Because there was never a banner rerun

I'm old but I know my memory isn't betraying me here

[atomic coral]

it was given in a box after a story chapter, no rerun

[slate elm]

at any rate i feel the biggest considerations/signs to skip helia's weapon back then were

• sena main dps was workable with p1 stuff if you already have them
  • i did suffer badly against SD lobster and bloodthirsty SD mobs though. I actually went back to pick up helia stigs just to retain the latter once.
• past double valk patches were pretty mixed on weather the second valk was notable or not
  • raven and SpA didn't age well
  • but HoO and TA were quite fine

[gleaming imp]

Raven in ER she’s not usable she has no interrupt resistance I have to constantly dodge since a gust of wind can knock her out

[still condor]

at least raven was pretty noticeably shit on release

[slate elm]

yeah idk. I really don't think anyone could've strongly predicted disappointment from helia. Part 2 was too new and confusing, and the revised weapon banner kinda sweetened the deal too

[edgy drift]

If you count TA we have to include GD too

[slate elm]

oh right i forgot her

[edgy drift]

hoyo didn't

[slate elm]

GD is just ridiculous

[gleaming imp]

Meet miss eternity

[edgy drift]

she's just too fast

[gleaming imp]

Seeing Eden and then seeing CE

[still condor]

God Diva vs Cringe Expression

[slate elm]

this is such a jinxing topic with bleed vill-v coming up lol

[gleaming imp]

Yae Sakura pistol copium

[still condor]

wonder what vita can get on it

[gleaming imp]

Or ovt t copium

[verbal mountain]

i wonder how bleed vv will be with vita-luna team

[distant lagoon]

i should go get my brain checked by a doctor... there is no arc rerun...

[verbal mountain]

[slate elm]

don't beat yourself up too badly over it lol. It gets the best of us too

[still condor]

permanent brain dmg from nirv malding

[distant lagoon]

excuse me, it´s t50 myriad malding

[slate elm]

i definitely have plenty of my own dejavu moments :V #👶beginner-help message

[distant lagoon]

but arc definitely got given out again for doing one of the latest story chapters

[slate elm]

i don't think it was given out twice

edit: perhaps by "again" you mean being obtainable? First time being gacha? and second time being the selection box?

[distant lagoon]

as an option besides coralie hammer

[edgy drift]

Neither will work here

you don't just need bleed to exist, you need an ok amount of it

[gleaming imp]

TB turg griseo

[verbal mountain]

solo luna enough? for vita team

[edgy drift]

idr if Luna can do the end trauma easily but she's at least enough for the start

[slate elm]

https://youtu.be/obfdCjip4sc?feature=shared&t=100

past strats does use luna for a portion of the trauma requirement at least

so it prob is fine if you have to resort to just her

[verbal mountain]

would really like a +100 here but realistically i'll only retain

[still condor]

mfw im in nirv with 2/4 luna and 0/4 CE

[slate elm]

i am curious to see if any madlad would try p1 jds with horb and SI

[gleaming imp]

Has anyone tested p1 songque with new Dudu

In the beta

[still condor]

if you have those two you might as well just throw coralie and play p2

[novel adder]

Kiana new battle suit looks so good omg

[gleaming imp]

Real, it’s so nostalgic seeing a new Kiana suit so I’m pulling for her adv when it drops

[willow perch]

...

[gleaming imp]

I do hope it has a free skin or something of her older hofin Esque look

[edgy drift]

Just Luna will probably need her to qte twice

[edgy drift]

see ya in the end of 2026

[plain veldt]

what is this

[gleaming imp]

Sad thing is I could’ve gotten new Kiana with half off multi if I did single pulls on vita since I got vita and dupe in one multi

Hindsight

[slate elm]

maybe your luck is based more on timing rather than the actual count of the roll though

[edgy drift]

that's not how that works

[gleaming imp]

I’m happy I got s2 vita but like why good luck now instead of making my first 2 valks entering p2 era not hard pity as they ended up being, luck inconsistent and unpredictable

[edgy drift]

random is random, who could have guessed

[slate elm]

||so who's going to be the ass to say luck is a skill here||

[gleaming imp]

I know just pull the valk in one multi

[slate elm]

but yeah overall if you do enough pulls you can eventually observe an equalization or at least a stronger and stronger resemblence to the actual probabilities

it may take more than one person to achieve that though

or it may take literal years

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

man i was going to shit talk about the desire sensor nonesense too but

the more i thought about it the more it was going to spiral into some dumb umineko reference

or make me go monologuing my luck in other gacha games lol

[gleaming imp]

I feel uncultured again for not knowing what umineko is

[slate elm]

so i'm just going to go

[rotund ravine]

if no other character was announced for 8.1 does that mean we’re getting a DK?

or no double release at all

[edgy drift]

we only know what's been anounced

wait a week for the full beta infos

I don't rember if HFI dkey was teased at the same time as Vita like this, but I think it was

so it looks like only Kiana is there

(and the Aop)

[gleaming imp]

Manifestating horb dkey

[muted mauve]

In a perfect world we would've gotten:

• New Kiana CNY Battlesuit (LoA)
• New Teri Battlesuit (RoO, Bio)
• CNY themed AstralOp

But Teri got shafted

[distant lagoon]

skipping HoHe? rude!

[rotund ravine]

true her design is actually so good 😭

[muted mauve]

Not just that. It's the suit that Otto made to her. Such a disservice being relegated to AstralOp

[rotund ravine]

and would fit bio pretty well too

i just know they will make 8.2 valk bio and I won’t have the funds for it

another year without a bio valk

[rain isle]

Been playing for almost 4 years and I still have no good bio dps lol

[distant lagoon]

tbh the last real good ones were FoV and HoS

[rain isle]

Oof

[distant lagoon]

there was Aponia and SW in between but they weren´t a real game changer

[gleaming imp]

But aponia is so 🛐my first s rank from supply

[distant lagoon]

the only S-rank who only had 1 limited banner

[gleaming imp]

They did give her for free this patch

Would be too f2p friendly if a recent free Valk got a dkey so soon

And they're a small indie company

[ripe kernel]

the dream really is over huh....

[gleaming imp]

There's starless weathers and p1 supports like teriteri dudu sparkle

[ripe kernel]

i meant i figured i might use my crystals to gacha for gear like turg so it doesnt take me 2 years to get it

but oh well

my issue

[gleaming imp]

Turg is craftable and free

[ripe kernel]

i know

but itll take me like months to even aquire

[gleaming imp]

I ignore foundry majority of the time, last thing I crafted was avocado m for my mobius to ensure top 1 on starless andrius

[still condor]

Spending crystals on old cope gear is a real bad idea
Especially on the incredibly shitty p1 gacha system

[ripe kernel]

oh im not getting them to compete

[distant lagoon]

wanna bet?

[ripe kernel]

i just wanna play some of those valkryies in adventure mode and then actually start playing the story

[gleaming imp]

Real. I wish p1 gacha was updated to p2s since p1 is one sidedly overpowered by p2 valks

[still condor]

Then crystals are an even worse idea

[ripe kernel]

ive been holding off on it since like

2020

[still condor]

Huh

Story gives trial valks anyways

Can't use your own for most of them

[ripe kernel]

thats why i said ill use them in adventure

i know story gives trials

i stopped at ch9

[still condor]

TF is adventure

[ripe kernel]

the open world thing

adventure tasks

[gleaming imp]

The ow maps instead of using vacation tickets to clear it they want to play it

[still condor]

Oh
But ow is squishy as fuck, why bother getting gear

[ripe kernel]

i like my stuff shiny

[gleaming imp]

Same, that's why I pull advs for ranks since ranks shiny

[ripe kernel]

if i want i can just play universal mirage for a challenge or even abyss

[ripe kernel]

only could upgrade my phone this year

my old phone barely had enough storage to download the game and some cg

nowadays im sure it would be too big for it

[gleaming imp]

Ranks shiny

ADV on top

[ripe kernel]

old ui

i want it back

[gleaming imp]

Does the game not have a ui switch option?

[ripe kernel]

i dont think so

[still condor]

No

Everything they changed is the only option you have

[slim lion]

Mom I am famous

[gleaming imp]

[slim lion]

[noble cobalt]

wouldnt it be cool if most of version 8 was just part 1 valks updated to p2, since v8 already has two of those and a part 1 valk turned into an astralop

[shrewd socket]

the only p1 valk updated to p2 is HoFi

[verbal mountain]

not really no

what's the part of p2 story then if it's all just p1 chars

i want p2 characters not random new battlesuits/aops for p1 chars

those are fine once in a while when they make sense, but not this many in a row

[final locust]

7.7 7.8 7.9 8.0 8.1 all involve p1 in some way

[noble cobalt]

I dont mean updated as in dkey i mean like giving a part 1 valkyries a part 2 form

[verbal mountain]

7.7 - teri
7.8 - vita, hofi dk
7.9 - sparkle, actually a p2/collab valk
8.0 - dudu
8.1 - kiana and and teri aop

[noble cobalt]

If kiana is getting a new battlesuit because its the CNY i still have hope to see mei again...

[verbal mountain]

it's fine if they give p1 chars new forms but let p2 actually shine...

[final locust]

7.7 - p1 char
7.8 - insane buff to 3 p1 chars
7.9 - buff to p1 chars
8.0 - buff to p1 chars and a p1 char herself
8.1 - p1 char main S rank and p1 S rank aop

[verbal mountain]

i really hope from 8.2 forward we get p2 chars as valks for the most part

[noble cobalt]

I think it would be fine if they at least gave all of the trio members one new battlesuit and then didnt give them any new ones for the next few years

or give them a p2 form and then never give them a new battlesuit again because their development is over already

[gleaming imp]

Personally I love it but i would prefer for more p2 cast valks so I can skip

[unique swallow]

No it really wouldn't

[gleaming imp]

If we get too much p1 cast back to back then it kind of feels like a lack of faith in p2 cast

[main goblet]

actually, while its great to see some p1 valks have a p2 battlesuit/aop, i do think we need some break to get new p2 valks again

ngl when p2 started it didn't feel connected to p1 (aside from that one clip and Coralie and helia) but now i low-key being distracted again with p1 stuff lol

a good balance with the 2 parts would be great

(rip the new players that though p2 is a completely new story lel)

[dense harness]

I'll skip new Kiana and get the Dudu, between Phys Img and Fire Stardust, i prefer Phys Img

[final locust]

yes. i am fine with p1 valks being ported over to p2 but when every version for 5 versions has involved p1 valks in some way its exhausting

[dense harness]

I do wanna know more about the Aop tho

[final locust]

especially when they transfer p1 valks over to p2 or make new p2 valks that gigabuff previously dead p1 valks

[main goblet]

i guess the whole thing about some p2 valks supporting p1 is so said p1 valks still have value for ppl to rank and stuff before they're actually benched

[gleaming imp]

Thankfully smol dudu skip for me

[final locust]

i just hate when they buff valks from 6.3 and 6.4 that are notorious for being extremely expensive and premium cough cough trio

[unique swallow]

Skill issue

[gleaming imp]

You see nostalgia sells

[final locust]

still pulling kiana tho bc i desperately need a fire dps 😭

hopefully she doesnt gut songque from the inside out

[main goblet]

hoyo is still trying to make valks after the other that have good synergy so ppl pull both but at least you it feels less punishing for me as long as a person have an good alternative or can wait for another good valk to make the team work ig

[dense harness]

I got Sparkle and Lamp already, a new Fire is too much for my acc, i actually need Phys and ice

[final locust]

but im like 99.99% sure songque will be her support bc of sd threshold thing!!! yay

[verbal mountain]

she probably will but songque can support her so she'll prob switch over to supporting

[main goblet]

type coverage does check out
but the rest is very much dependent on what new kiana wants

[verbal mountain]

realistically the only phys exclusive SD weather is the one alien guard

[edgy drift]

Unless she has it too, then it's a lot more flexible

[final locust]

if she doesnt have sd threshold break thing songque is guaranteed to be her support. no questions

[still condor]

songque is nice for SD because her combo attack automatically breaks the normal hp bar

[main goblet]

at least we have some idea on her team options thanks for knowing her ring type

[edgy drift]

Specifically for SD stuff yeah. And even then there's multiple ways to make SD bosses for her where songque won't matter too

[final locust]

or even if she has it herself songque might do it faster and still be better
cuz for LoA you just qte in and can do the combo

[verbal mountain]

i wouldn't be surprised if they made a new SD weather for like WoD or phys bc otherwise idk how they're gonna balance kiana vs songque as dps

[edgy drift]

well there's already phys SD weathers

[verbal mountain]

one

[final locust]

yeah theres lit one that isnt even songque's boss 😭

[verbal mountain]

unless i'm misremembering and there's more

[noble cobalt]

well didnt sena DPS kinda suffer after songque came out... wouldnt this just be the same again

[edgy drift]

and even there it might be better to run Kiana lead

because LoA turbo charges songque

[final locust]

but she was still a goated support and has some bosses still technically

[verbal mountain]

should've been a base kit feature

[main goblet]

que did steal the spotlight from dps sena

[verbal mountain]

😔

[final locust]

songque is in no way a goated support lol

[main goblet]

it's just that sena is her support in said team lel

[final locust]

does songque give another possibility to LoA or no?

[verbal mountain]

yea she has good buffs

[final locust]

they reworded her stigs to apply to LoA too?

[verbal mountain]

more than sparkle for phys, for elem no idea tbh

seperate buff on 3pc got added

[final locust]

oh what

when was this

[main goblet]

sparkle doesn't have any fire buffs for p2 no?
that's just for p1 yeah?

[edgy drift]

next patch

[final locust]

what does it do?

[still condor]

oh they finally added songque stig buffs to LoA?

[verbal mountain]

she has elem buffs but nothing for specific fire

[final locust]

yeah almost all of her fire buffs are exclusive for p1

[main goblet]

tsk, i alr kinda like the new kiana design that that she can possibly help me cover the fire gap im missing
but my only dpses are mech and sd, i hardly have any other coverages...

[still condor]

just bruteforce everything with sd

[verbal mountain]

it's still another possibility just all the loa buffs are fit into one paragraph in the 3pc

[still condor]

why bother with typing

[verbal mountain]

it's like tdm, tdt and some other shit

[final locust]

she still has the 40% fire taken for general use tho

[verbal mountain]

don't have the image on hand

[main goblet]

good, i want to sleep on sparkle

[verbal mountain]

does she

wher

[final locust]

yep

[main goblet]

bruteforce doesn't always work in my case
sometime the bracket is very sweaty

[main goblet]

ugh starless still haunts me

[main goblet]

ohh i see

[verbal mountain]

oh I thought that was for herself only

[main goblet]

but at least different elemental/physical coverage and range/melee buffs does work for me

[shrewd socket]

ill just try to get both dudu and kiana

[main goblet]

just as long as im not faced with a type disadvantage and debuff from the weather that is

i can technically get both dudu and kiana actually, but I'll just wait to see enough info about the new kiana

[edgy drift]

you shouldn't do that unless you're sure to get both

[verbal mountain]

found an image

[main goblet]

i also don't want to leave cny broke asf

[edgy drift]

pulling and failing on Dudu just screws you for the spend event in 8.1

[shrewd socket]

ill eventually need both anyway

[final locust]

its literally just Another Possibility restated

[edgy drift]

nah

[main goblet]

is dudu any impressive outside her bosses?
i know stupid question but i want to know her value in bruteforce teams

[verbal mountain]

not good at bruteforce afaik

heavily reliant on img enemies with weak cores

[main goblet]

ah i see

[final locust]

dude another possibility has to have the highest raw buff numbers in the game

[verbal mountain]

but i could be wrong

[edgy drift]

it's way higher than her WoD activated buff

[verbal mountain]

maybe

[verbal mountain]

it's pretty close I think

that's just the 3pc

she has all the wod stuff in every single stig

[final locust]

yeah another possibility does more

[edgy drift]

oh wait yeah the stigs are also wod locked

[verbal mountain]

i remember it was like 120+ edm on her stigs for wod or something around that

[final locust]

holy shit

[verbal mountain]

might've been with weap

[edgy drift]

the only other taken buff I found is that tho

[final locust]

yeah she has the highest raw buff numbers in the game, she has to
i have never seen anything that high

[verbal mountain]

i did a buff list for songque a while ago

[edgy drift]

so that's still a lot higher

[final locust]

she also has impair????

shes literally a jack of all trades AND master of all

the only thing she needed to push her over the edge was full bar recharge on QTE. she will be an insane LoA support forever

[verbal mountain]

songque buffs for wheel of destiny:
Base: 7% Physical and Elemental DMG taken
Weap: 15% Total DMG, 20% Physical DMG, 25% Elemental DMG, 2/3% Physical DMG taken (synergy 1)
T: 24% Total DMG
M: 25% Physical DMG, 30% Elemental DMG
B: 16% Phys DMG taken, 20% Elemental DMG taken
2pc: 10% Crit Rate and Crit DMG, 30% Crit DMG, 30% Elemental DMG
3pc: 31% Total DMG, 30% Elemental DMG, 25% Physical DMG, 6% Ranged Total DMG, 20% Total DMG taken
Tally: 70% Total DMG, 20% Total DMG taken, 6% Ranged Total DMG, 70% Physical DMG, 25/26% Physical DMG taken, 10% Crit Rate, 40% Crit DMG, 115% Elemental DMG, 27% Elemental DMG taken

this was what I calced back in v2, dunno how much that changed

[verbal mountain]

only for herself

it's so she doesn't do poopoo damage

[final locust]

shes so nasty

ugh my queen finally having her potential realized

[abstract night]