🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[unique swallow]

Yes why wouldn't it be

[steep axle]

i feel like it would run out

[atomic coral]

trial does inputs so slow that it looks worse than it actually is

[steep axle]

it wouldnt be a problem if i were still playing on pc but

[small wing]

only Kiana can activate the AR

[steep axle]

i tried trio on mobile and i can barely hit time stop

[small wing]

also yeah HoTr ult lasts long enough

[steep axle]

ill try that maybe tomorrow

[small wing]

the trial just does the rotation really slow

GO AWAY I NEED LAMPPPPPPPPPP

[steep axle]

lamp

[willow perch]

Come back Oct 23rd

L

Ratio

[glass nacelle]

x50 shards fr

[steep axle]

i played proseka too much i forgot what we got as free pulls

i got like over 200 pulls for anniv there

[small wing]

Btw you got 4/4 vita?

[steep axle]

no vita

10k ish on HoFin dkey alone

and boom im broke

i can probably get her

[rocky epoch]

This seems like the better place to ask, uh is sparkle out in cn yet, do we know if her banner is gonna share pity with the one vita is currently on

[glass nacelle]

yes

[small wing]

She's in beta RN so it'll be another 2-3 weeks till she's officially out

yes she shares pity

[smoky lintel]

yes but cn players are raging cuz shes not free but hoyo wont change it probably

[steep axle]

free sparkle when

[steep axle]

its cn players hoyo could listen

[smoky lintel]

maybe but imma gues they wont

i hope though

[rocky epoch]

Yeah it sucks she's gacha

I want to pull vita weapon cuz I just came back and got vita first 10 pull, got her stigmata too

But I'm scared to not have enough to max sparkle so I'm chickening out

And probably just grabbing vita weapon on rerun

[steep axle]

go get weapon

[smoky lintel]

i mean vita is a universal support so shes prob more worth it but just pull on who you like

[steep axle]

trust me i used PE with hler for like 4 months

[rocky epoch]

I mean tbf I'm cooked on ever being competitive anyway cuz returnee

[steep axle]

returnee is fine rn

[rocky epoch]

Is it?

[steep axle]

i came back last month

and im on a3 for god knows what reason (i have no part 2 valk)

[rocky epoch]

(OK also I'm a returnee from 7.0 i have full 7.0 team lmao)

Oh

[steep axle]

i use trio without dkey

[rocky epoch]

Dang look at me calling myself cooked

[steep axle]

no one can be more cooked than me

[smoky lintel]

part 2 valks are alot more forgiving when it comes to returnees

[small wing]

^

[steep axle]

what

[rocky epoch]

At the end of the day though, I am getting 4/4 sparkle

Idc how I have to go about doing that

[small wing]

it's a lot easier to get a good team because of how part 2 teams work

[smoky lintel]

you can use vita in every single team be it elemental or physical and every part 2 valk supports in some way

[steep axle]

i have no part 2 valk

[feral epoch]

top up on her patch?

[steep axle]

i dont plan on getting part 2 valk

[rocky epoch]

Yeah I'm replacing someone with vita on my sena team

[feral epoch]

top up event on her patch

[rocky epoch]

I'm guessing helia?

[smoky lintel]

no hammer girl

[rocky epoch]

Is there a top up event? Oh dang

[smoky lintel]

i forgot her name

[rocky epoch]

Oh ok

Rip i like coralie

[smoky lintel]

shes good for vita dps

[steep axle]

that one girl that i got from free pull and will be staying level 1 forever

[rocky epoch]

Coralie cute i just got her sss

[feral epoch]

Coralie better than helia

[rocky epoch]

Honestly yeah tbh

[small wing]

you are going to actively make yourself suffer doing that

[feral epoch]

helia only good for sena dps, Coralie can support everyone and a core for vita dps

[steep axle]

i alr am

i got 596 on a3 live cant be better

[smoky lintel]

i mean it was for sena dps or am i wrong ?

[rocky epoch]

I take it between senadina and vita, vita is gonna do more damage?

[feral epoch]

if you have hofi

[smoky lintel]

if you dont have 3/3 RoO vitas dmg decreases by alot

[rocky epoch]

Oh I do not no

Is that the new divine key?

[feral epoch]

oh, I'm dizzy i guess then

[smoky lintel]

yes it gives HoFi acces to Astral ring

[rocky epoch]

Well new since I've been here

[steep axle]

whats RoO

[rocky epoch]

Yeah i don't have hofi or that

[smoky lintel]

atral ring type

astral*

[steep axle]

the what uh

[feral epoch]

vita hofi coralie ring types

[steep axle]

oh vita

[smoky lintel]

astral ring is what allows part 2 valks to be so versatile but its a bit hard to get into

[rocky epoch]

Is hofi actually a good pull again now?

[steep axle]

she always was

[shrewd socket]

not pull but get

[rocky epoch]

Id say I was surprised they buffed her... but I'm not cuz it's kiana

[shrewd socket]

but only bc Vita

[smoky lintel]

yes but you NEED her divine key

otherwise no

[steep axle]

HoV dkey when

[rocky epoch]

Yeah I'm gonna probably just not bother getting her

I won't get her on spending event cuz no crystals

[steep axle]

or free HoF i have her spending outfit...

[smoky lintel]

isnt HoF on dorm

[rocky epoch]

And saving for sparkle

[steep axle]

yes but my dorm is so ass

[small wing]

exactly why make yourself suffer more

[steep axle]

i havent gotten a s rank in years

[steep axle]

why not

as i said back when 7.1 or smth no part 2 valk til frigid rerun

and that frigid rerun better happen

[shrewd socket]

just quit atp

[steep axle]

no

[smoky lintel]

i wish i could be as delusional as you cuz i couldnt not gaslight me into thinking fridig will ever get a rerun

[steep axle]

i live with copium

[shrewd socket]

i doubt mhy want frigid incident to happen again

[steep axle]

i dont have airi thumbs up anymore 😭

they have to rerun it on eos trust

asuka or frigid rerun first

[small wing]

death

[shrewd socket]

none will happen

[steep axle]

my grandchildren will pull frigid rerun for me

at least give HoV a new outfit 😭

[smoky lintel]

its mhy she wont get anything

forever

[steep axle]

[small wing]

begging you just pull a P2 valk you're actively just losing crystals at this point

[smoky lintel]

its legit the best time to pull spending + universal support and you get so much free shit

[rocky epoch]

Hmm... what are the chances sparkle reruns since they are making her a full gacha s rank ehe

[small wing]

high

[steep axle]

nah

[smoky lintel]

part 2 valks are rerunning very consistantly

[rocky epoch]

What are the chances hoyo at any point confirms whether or not she will

[steep axle]

its hoyo x hoyo

[smoky lintel]

they will def rerun shes gonna be a meta unit money loss if they wont

[rocky epoch]

Oh wait... I guess fischl is still obtainable

[steep axle]

asuka 2 wont happen

[rocky epoch]

And keqing... you couldn't even permanently get keqing could you

[steep axle]

yes

[rocky epoch]

Nobody has her

[steep axle]

yes

[rocky epoch]

OK hmmm

[steep axle]

unless its genshin

[rocky epoch]

I feel a little better then

Aloy in hi3 when

[steep axle]

never

[thick prawn]

Never

[gleaming imp]

I personally want bayonetta in hi3

[rocky epoch]

Ngl id quit on the spot if aloy

Forever tainted

[steep axle]

i want eva collab 2

[feral epoch]

her stigma is permanently craftable in foundry

[rocky epoch]

Maybe hi3 can get a fate collab too

[small wing]

might see the day where someone goes from a3 to sinful

[rocky epoch]

Ok then surely her weapon will rerun

Or be otherwise obtainable

[feral epoch]

from a2 to myriad

[smoky lintel]

100% rerun as said shes gonna be meta and they would lose money if the wont

and hoyo x hoyo was never time limited obtainable

[rocky epoch]

Also jeez I just saw the top up event from marisa... uggghhh I've already spent way too much money on this game

Ok fair

I feel better now

I'll just pull vita weapon and then just win sparkle

[smoky lintel]

vita will stay viable for long so worth it

[rocky epoch]

Are there any other crucial characters i missed between 7.0 and now

[steep axle]

ill get sparkle as my first qua dps in 4 years

[smoky lintel]

she also is 1 of the 2 chars that have the ability to support an jet unknown AR type so shes gonna be meta for that aswell

[steep axle]

my only qua dps is nyx

[rocky epoch]

Other than the Theresa girl or whatever idk

Is that theresa

[steep axle]

whos the second

[feral epoch]

sena

[rocky epoch]

Oh I have sena team full built

[feral epoch]

thelema then

[rocky epoch]

Ok

[smoky lintel]

sonque

[rocky epoch]

Is she a better pick up than lantern?

[steep axle]

oh is she the blonde one

[smoky lintel]

yes

[rocky epoch]

Yeah with the really detailed feet

[steep axle]

does HoFin have that

[smoky lintel]

nope

[steep axle]

oh feet girl

[rocky epoch]

That meme was cash

[steep axle]

i didnt bother updating that patch

i skipped a whole patch it was crazy

[feral epoch]

both same va as sparkle (cn)

[rocky epoch]

Wait is the little blue girl thing even a valk

[steep axle]

no

[rocky epoch]

Or is that a... whatever the new elf's are

[smoky lintel]

we dont know when they will realese an dps for that AR type but the team will be new dps + vita + sonque

[rocky epoch]

Oh ok good then I don't have to get her

[feral epoch]

Astral Ops, yes

[rocky epoch]

I don't like her design cuz I'm a hater

[feral epoch]

she's needed for songque team

[rocky epoch]

... crap

Actually you know maybe blue girl astral op isn't so bad after all

[steep axle]

i dont like astral op or smth

i just need bella elf in my life

[rocky epoch]

Tbf I probably won't pull either ever

[steep axle]

also 5 more elf boxes and i get bella elf

after 4 years

[smoky lintel]

elfs like kiana still keep up with astral ops just the AR charging is way slower

[rocky epoch]

Oh yeah I can get Kiana elf now prob

Since I won't have enough for hofi

[feral epoch]

after 6 years i still don't have Elfs other than kiana

[steep axle]

i only have dudu elf and free ones

[small wing]

I promise you don't need Serapeum for Songque

[rocky epoch]

Pets in gacha kinda just rub me the wrong way

Another thing to have to pull for

[small wing]

She's good but the free DS AOP is completely fine in all situations

Sera and Songque AOPs only really important if you wanna maintain nirv

[smoky lintel]

astral ops are pretty cheap sonque is very universal and you need max 60 pulls

[small wing]

120

[steep axle]

cant wait for 8.8 it better be funny

[rocky epoch]

Oh ok good nvm on the nvm never pulling serapeum

[steep axle]

im sad 6.9 was sirin

[rocky epoch]

Probably won't pull songque either though

[small wing]

you need em SS rank to be majorly better than just using DS

[feral epoch]

good

[feral epoch]

only sera needs SS

S songque still beats SS DS

[rocky epoch]

There will be better valks than songque

[smoky lintel]

yeah but atp its about astral ops not valks sonque is both

[glass nacelle]

Songque is extremely dependent on sera, even RL is too but newbie doesn't need astralop

[gleaming imp]

Kiaelf on top

[rocky epoch]

And I'd only pull her for meta and I doubt backpulling her is meta

[feral epoch]

yes, just wait for the next phys dps next year

[rocky epoch]

Oh, she's phys? That's interesting

Yeah definitely not then I'm loyal to senti

[smoky lintel]

yeah only part 2 phys valk if i remeber right

[steep axle]

i still use PE

[smoky lintel]

she wont take you far sadly

[rocky epoch]

I know she already doesn't

[steep axle]

it has been like 23 patches since PE released

[steep axle]

or 30 idk

[feral epoch]

that's his way of play

[steep axle]

but i still use her as phy dps

[rocky epoch]

Still missing gear for the physical sp support valk though forgot her name

[feral epoch]

my last phys dps before songque was just Susannah, skipped both hotr and horb till now. got to myriad about 15 times

[steep axle]

i skipped uh hare susannah and whatever phy dps ever existed

[feral epoch]

forget her existence already, just embrace p2 teams

[small wing]

doesn't help we're prolly gonna get like

26 unique AOPs

2 for each ring type, one for elemental and physical

So they're just objectively gonna be more expensive than elves as the game goes on

[glass nacelle]

look sera

[verbal mountain]

less

there will definitely be 2 in 1s

like sera^

[edgy drift]

We'll just get 1 per ring instead of 1 per element

And with overlaps, like Sera does both WS and WoD

Songque works in WS and RoO

[glass nacelle]

sera: phys dmg, ws(not good), wod
songque: ele dmg, ws

[verbal mountain]

sera is good in ws

ss sera vs ss songque in ws is very close

[glass nacelle]

don't think close because songque will charge faster than sera

[edgy drift]

Nope

Well, yes slightly

but not by much, and Sera is more dmg

[glass nacelle]

6 points per rot

[edgy drift]

which you can gain back by just killing earlier

Saying it's not good is a wild overstatement

When there's a bunch of cases where she's better

[glass nacelle]

I say not good because Sera almost doesn't buff anything in ARC

[edgy drift]

wat

Songque needs SSS to have higher buffs than Sera on WS

[small wing]

wonder if we'll get more upgrades for DS from story

[edgy drift]

we'll get the last one eventually

[willow perch]

Ima send you to help channel and watch you get jumped

[small wing]

i don't mean SSS rank, i mean more free versions of DS from main story

[edgy drift]

Sera only requires Shadow Star tags in the team, every P2 S rank has it

[edgy drift]

unlikely

[small wing]

cause the gap between her and gacha AOPs is only gonna get wider and wider as things go on

[edgy drift]

Not really, Gacha aops will most likely remain about the same power lvl, just specialized to different rings

And yeah that's the point, they want you to pull the things

We still don't have any other "free" ELFs than Jingwei and BE

when Aops get old enough, they might get thrown in spend events too

[verbal mountain]

sss ds is fine for being free
much better than jww or be yeah

[steep axle]

i use 3 star dudu elf

[final locust]

why did so many people use BE way back then?? lack of better options ig?

[steep axle]

i dont remember where i got 3 star from

[edgy drift]

The same reason so many people use DS now

[steep axle]

4 star be prob better than 3 star gacha elf

but im not that old

[final locust]

not at all lmao

[steep axle]

was it tesla elf and be

[final locust]

BE is a nuke elf

[steep axle]

i remember tesla elf giving bleed

[small wing]

they need to stop releasing new stuff to make me wanna do that

[final locust]

she has no buffs just damage

yeah tesla ELF wasnt free tho

[steep axle]

yes

it was around HoS patch people didnt want to pull

but i dont remember much

[edgy drift]

ELFs were as much a whale thing than Aop are now

[steep axle]

god they need to bring elf supply back im missing so many elfs

[edgy drift]

they won't

[small wing]

but i'm poooooooooooooor

[steep axle]

what the hell i was playing when waters edge released

[distant lagoon]

go wooooooork

[steep axle]

why dont i remember that

[glass nacelle]

really not interested in elf but since changing to astralop i got both songque and sera kek

[small wing]

i work full timeeeeeeeeeeee

[steep axle]

i like dudu elf gather

[verbal mountain]

okay but now they're actual women

bigger bait

[distant lagoon]

get better jooooooooob

[verbal mountain]

[steep axle]

i like elfs

ive been trying to get bella for 4 years now

[small wing]

this is america i could get a better job and still not be paid enough

[steep axle]

i worked this summer

got paid like 500 dollars monthly full time

and like im even more broke now

[edgy drift]

Now people think it's a valk and then come to help channels to ask why they can't play it

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

i miss simpler times

[solar surge]

"all sales final"

[small wing]

we're in the simpler times RN

[steep axle]

no i swiched to mobile hi3 again

i understand why i went back to pc a year ago

[final locust]

tbf no amount of wording can cleanse stupidity

[steep axle]

im gonna borrow them

[celest valley]

Will never take this out in the box

[steep axle]

oh is that fu hua outfit

fu hua outfit that was meant to be an upgrade or smth

i still have that no ae

[glass nacelle]

tmr thel banner
hope i can get s2 thel

Copium

[final locust]

i wanna get lantern with my free 10xs

[celest valley]

Damn I thought we can keep the tickets

I have no plans of using then

[glass nacelle]

nope

[rare plinth]

how bad is sparkle

[small wing]

same here

need some fire valk to carry me

[final locust]

good

[rare plinth]

like, vita good?

[final locust]

she's very good
not vita level but good

[edgy drift]

Tbh, not really no

[rare plinth]

oh is vita like the very top tier or smth

[rare plinth]

oh what

[verbal mountain]

meh

currently low value overall, locked tag makes her a bit better

[west fog]

Thelema skin is kinda disappointing

[rare plinth]

locked tag?

[verbal mountain]

but also depends on how it impacts new ring seeing as we already have 2 valks with locked tag

[edgy drift]

As dps she only works on QUA and needs Teri for it, as support she only works for WS (which they all do atp) and next ring, as P1 support she buffs Sirin a lot but has SP issues at S0

[little ledge]

kinda niche and even requires teri

[final locust]

well she's a really good dps and supports all current rings + has locked tag

[little ledge]

future AR valk will use her as a support

[final locust]

doesnt require teri lol

[rare plinth]

i see

[edgy drift]

Sparkle dps without Teri is kinda ass

[rare plinth]

so meta wise she's horrid

[edgy drift]

And Sparkle dps with Teri isn't even far ahead of Teri dps

[final locust]

nobody said that what

[rare plinth]

oh

[verbal mountain]

she's not horrid

[little ledge]

just niche

[verbal mountain]

just low value compared to other p2 s ranks

[edgy drift]

She's just aight

[rare plinth]

like a bit better than horrid

[final locust]

it's also still very early beta. things can (and will) change, most likely for the better

[verbal mountain]

or for the worse

[final locust]

they wouldn't release an underpowered valk for a collab. it'd be stupid marketing

[rare plinth]

oh shes still in beta? wait im sorry i thought she released in cn

[edgy drift]

She's good at what she does, but has a number of prerequisites for it

[final locust]

no she's still in very early beta

[edgy drift]

(asuka)

[little ledge]

she's not really a collab valk mechanics-wise

[rare plinth]

i see, is there a supposed date for launch?

[final locust]

she's a collab valk

[verbal mountain]

she's a collab valk from in house

[edgy drift]

about 2 weeks

[verbal mountain]

she's like pv

[final locust]

she's an exception cuz she was limited so they had to make her bad

[verbal mountain]

idk how good pv was but she's just like a normal character really

[rare plinth]

ohhhh okay

[final locust]

PV ruled over lightning teams for like forever

[edgy drift]

PV was cracked

[final locust]

i dont think PV died until hotr came out

[verbal mountain]

op

[rare plinth]

i hope they make her meta meta but idk how much they can do with qua type

[edgy drift]

Sparkle just looks like a regular P2 valk on pretty much all ways

[final locust]

every valk is "meta-meta"

[little ledge]

I mean, just like mechanics-wise fischl was just a normal SP valk, I expect Sparkle to be just a normal S valk like others, with reruns, ADVs, becoming a BP valk after a year and a dorm valk after two

[glass nacelle]

v3 reduce 125 -> 100 trust

[final locust]

no matter how skippable they get, all myriad players will have them

[glass nacelle]

[final locust]

but yeah she's still in super early beta so things will change

hopefully for the better bc i kinda need her

need a qua dps and a fire dps

[little ledge]

people: "pls mhy give us a skippable patch in part2"
also people: "if hot, why niche"

[final locust]

but ill have trio soon enough

[final locust]

we've had skippable patches

[edgy drift]

they want the 5th lightning valk to be the skippable one instead

[final locust]

7.5 and 7.7 were ez skips

[edgy drift]

Well Sparkle for now looks like worse Teri

[glass nacelle]

[final locust]

i want chibi dudu to be bad bc i want to skip her

[glass nacelle]

v3 huge buff and lock it in sss

[final locust]

they'll buff her

[edgy drift]

maybe, maybe not

[final locust]

she'll probably be around teri's level on release

[glass nacelle]

cope

[rare plinth]

i heard teri's an underdog and is used a lot

[edgy drift]

And they might not reduce her reliance on Teri for qua content either

[final locust]

it's inevitable for a valk to get at least 1 buff in beta lol

[final locust]

nah

[edgy drift]

7t be like

[final locust]

definitely good but not an underdog

[rare plinth]

in previous betas, did much change with valks?

[final locust]

yes

they always do

[rare plinth]

i see

[edgy drift]

HFS arguably only got weaker too, but way better to play

[rain isle]

Sporkle should be stronk cause collab peep idk

[rare plinth]

sorry im coping so bad shes the only p2 character design i like kekw

[final locust]

im sayin

[final locust]

sparkle is not a bad idea but you should probably wait for 8.0 news before deciding on anything just yet

[edgy drift]

In old betas they used to heavily overshoot numbers and nerf after, now they're more often the other way around

[rain isle]

:>

[rare plinth]

is 8.0 a herrscher patch or wtv theyre called in p2?

[final locust]

if 8.0 is chibi dudu and she's not a TA replacement i will rejoice

[rain isle]

Here's hoping that v3 makes her less reliant on Teri or smth (cause I don't have her lmao)

[rare plinth]

oh yeah has there been any herrscher-level valks yet in p2?

[final locust]

the only "herrscher equivalent" suit we've gotten was JDS and that was 2 versions ago

[solar surge]

Songque, Vita...

[rain isle]

Erm, Songque probably counts? Vita too

[rare plinth]

yeah vita seems like one i see

[final locust]

vita too probably yeah

but keep in mind "herrscher" is most likely a retired title atp

[glass nacelle]

i thought u are talking about lore

[solar surge]

hell, Lantern's probably up there
she seems to have reached Durandal levels by sheer pushups, situps, and plenty of juice

[verbal mountain]

lorewise songque

[quick river]

i assume ajita or something

[verbal mountain]

if we're talking power-wise there have been multiple really really strong meta shaping battlesuits released recently

[rain isle]

TA as in Terminal Aide aka Promy?

[edgy drift]

the last few herrschers weren't "herrscher lvl" either, just regular S valks

[final locust]

lantern??? durandal level?????? the fuck

[rare plinth]

yeah but i meant it in the sense where they'd release an overpowered valk about every year (not new herrschers but inb4 when they were golden)

[final locust]

yes

[verbal mountain]

||songque has been called a herrscher in the story so there's still some significance there||

[rain isle]

Promy was literally almost free gear on release

[final locust]

really? like actually directly referred to as a herrscher?

[rain isle]

Moreso compared to one

[solar surge]

well, maybe not late-game Equinox Durandal
early "I trained hard enough to pause Kevin" Dudu? Valk Gloria style? Yeah, I'd put her up there

[small wing]

Yeah

[rain isle]

Not really a Herrscher, merely a comparison by Coralie iirc

[muted mauve]

Songque was this year's scheduled Herrscher release patch wise.
She was the one who took the lead at the end of the first arc.

Vita was anniversary.
8.1 is CNY (aka arc 2 end)

[final locust]

8.1 will probably be leylah then

[small wing]

It is just a comparison but yeah she's basically the same thing as a herrscher

Shadow calamity is still a manifestation of the honkai and all

[rain isle]

[rare plinth]

ohh makes sense! though i dont see peopel making a ruffus ab her

[final locust]

leylah is the real herrscher equivalent

[verbal mountain]

she's the same thing as a herrscher even if she isn't called one

[final locust]

https://tenor.com/view/dreamseeker-honkai-impact-3rd-entropy-hi3rd-impact-honkai-impact-3rd-hi3rd-entropy-hi3rd-dreamseeker-gif-7986175235135399520

you cannot tell me that's not a herrscher lmfao

[rare plinth]

lmao she looks like

[final locust]

there's literally honkai energy coming out of her

[rare plinth]

the genderbent of ice herrscher's lover

[solar surge]

finally, Owl with hooters-

[small wing]

We already got confirmation that Leylah is supposedly a goddess so she's prolly whatever Senadina and Kiana currently are

[rare plinth]

YEAH OWL

[small wing]

And vita ig

Forgot she counts too

[final locust]

i want to skip sparkle but i literally cant

[glass nacelle]

8.0 should be little dudu

[final locust]

i wanna save to S2 leylah but i need sparkle

[glass nacelle]

[final locust]

is sparkle usable on qua content w/o teri

[rare plinth]

no way that little dudu is gonna be a valk?

[verbal mountain]

tuff

[final locust]

either a valk or an aop

[verbal mountain]

usable? sure but it'll definitely be a lot behind teri supp

[rare plinth]

how relevant is vita kiana setup?

[final locust]

?

[solar surge]

some people really like smol versions of characters

and there's some interesting lore implications. If the Dreamseeker System builds avatars based on one's desires- ie Teri wants nap- this indicates Dudu has some longing for a missed childhood, probably from all the training

[rare plinth]

what

[final locust]

what are u talking abt

[muted mauve]

Leylah is the goddess of Mars. She is above that.

Songque is the Herrscher equivalent.
And whoever ends up getting the full zodiac ring's power in the next bubbles would be the same.

[final locust]

i thought sena was the goddess of mars

[rare plinth]

since cn has had vita dps longer, i was asking how fire she was with kiana dkey n sht

[final locust]

highest dmg output out of p2

[small wing]

Both Sena and Leylah are goddesses of Mars

[final locust]

with coralie supp btw lol

[rare plinth]

i see, tho after seeing the avatar she looks like those npc things damn

[rare plinth]

yeahh!

[small wing]

Leylah presumably being the god at the top of the tower in Ruimu

We don't fully know what sena is

[rare plinth]

damn so much has unraveled al;ready wtf

[small wing]

I'm still counting on her being the mars computer itself

[glass nacelle]

[final locust]

no that would be too boring

[rare plinth]

sena shift gonna go hard

[final locust]

i want her to be a literal herrscher or stemming from the cocoon

[rare plinth]

yeah without that horrid outfit

i need grotesque herrscher honkai sht

[final locust]

horrid where.

[solar surge]

it just looks like standard sports gear? Like she's going skiing ?

[final locust]

what

ohhhh chibi dudu

[rare plinth]

okay its purely my opinion but i hate how they're ALL rocking that low rise thing but that comes from a returnee who was used to p1 designs

[final locust]

yeah she's ugly

[final locust]

low rise where????

[rare plinth]

girl

[small wing]

Them fuckass shorts

[gleaming imp]

P1 good p2 bad since me blinded by nostalgia and new and change bad since me boomer

[rare plinth]

sena thelema the a rank girl

[rare plinth]

ong

like i LOVE love rise but idk they arent hitting them for me

[small wing]

Nah this ain't a nostalgia thing they keep giving characters those fuckass shorts across games

[rare plinth]

ok u see my point

[gleaming imp]

I would want a Valk with y2k fashion aesthetic for a design

I think it'd slay

[solar surge]

"I like shorts. They're comfy and easy to wear."

[rare plinth]

yeah i fw y2k but idkkk

[edgy drift]

wrong game

[small wing]

Not when they're booty floss

[rare plinth]

BOOTY FLOSS LMAO

[muted mauve]

She literally told Kiana she wasn't born from the Cocoon

[final locust]

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-nicki-stare-stan-twitter-stan-twitter-nicki-nicki-ig-live-gif-22271295

[rare plinth]

tho p2's open world is genuinely insane

[solar surge]

...I seriously have no clue what y'all are talking about.

[final locust]

Ruimu is drop dead gorgeous i cannot

[solar surge]

you cannot what, finish a sentence?

[final locust]

hoyo cooked with ruimu

[final locust]

https://tenor.com/view/looks-around-side-eye-miss-juicy-confused-stan-twitter-gif-3737684590472729988

[rare plinth]

whos ruimi

[final locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBhBWocw7ho&t=28s

it's actually giving arc city

[final locust]

@restive rose you can finally have f2p arc city bridge

[rare plinth]

how have they improved so much wtf

[solar surge]

I don't see what's so objectionable?
...ok, her badge makes me think I need to update my Windows security or to mark this as a trusted file, but she is in software mode, after all

[rare plinth]

wait actually apho existed but damn

[final locust]

she's just ugly like

[edgy drift]

can't wait for everyone's devices to fucking die when loading the map

[rain isle]

SO ADORABLE

[final locust]

literally

[rain isle]

[solar surge]

"proud sponsor of Durandal VPN"

[verbal mountain]

I wish she was a little bigger

like a teenager

but I like her hair it's really cute

[final locust]

i'm almost inclined to skip sparkle but i feel like i actually cannot lmfao

[orchid dome]

same

[orchid dome]

kinda like sparkle right?

her stature

[glass nacelle]

ez skip

floparkle

[orchid dome]

wtv u say

[edgy drift]

you always can

[orchid dome]

as if u can backpull her later

[edgy drift]

look at me I skipped everything P2 up to Vita and am doing fine

[orchid dome]

or maybe?
i don t think it would be Eva situation

[edgy drift]

She's just a regular S valk like any other

[orchid dome]

oh so just like fischl

[edgy drift]

yeah, but gacha S rank this time

[orchid dome]

👍

[orchid dome]

i only pulled Songque,Vita and HoFin dkey from p2

my songque is pretty much dead

cause i don t have lantern nor thelema

my songque team is her with vita and hofin

[glass nacelle]

i have all P2 now (only teri doesn't have wp)

[orchid dome]

nice to see someone enjoying everything p2

[gleaming imp]

I don't see how that's dead with vita and hofin being roo they're suitable replacements just not optimal

[orchid dome]

well they are not optimal

that s the thing

[gleaming imp]

That should be fine in RL

[orchid dome]

can t get high score

myeah maybe

idk

[glass nacelle]

i just pull new unit kek

[orchid dome]

average meta player

[glass nacelle]

not really. I only used 2 mpass in part 2 If you are meta player, you will need to skip some characters when you are f2p.

[rare plinth]

who most skippable

[orchid dome]

sena

[glass nacelle]

me

[orchid dome]

im skipping anyway if i don t like the gameplay

if only these bosses were not so p2 codded

[glass nacelle]

[orchid dome]

i wouldn t have to worry about pulling p2

just keep playing p1

[edgy drift]

they're just made for new valks, as they always were

nothing to do with P1 or P2

I mean they're even releasing a bunch of bosses specifically for P1 valks now, so old valks get more content than ever before

They're shilling Mobius of all valks ffs

[orchid dome]

i just like to cry over p2 dmg powercreep

p3 we will get like what

100m+ dmg comps?

[orchid dome]

yeah we got wolf,that s like once per whenever the planets align

[glass nacelle]

mobius in 2024

[rare plinth]

who has the highest value from thelema/sene/lantern

[edgy drift]

That's more than never, which was the usual before p2

[orchid dome]

have u seen a score with her SS1/SS2 rn?

[glass nacelle]

very high score

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1fPyeY5EEw

T1 ios

[hard stream]

man i dont think ill enough for sparkle... only 2104...

[edgy drift]

ios server is freaky, barely 1 rots p1 at 9S

[lime star]

not enough for hardpity, but for a top 100 nirv player it should be plausable

we're also +15 pulls from anni supply

sparkle banner is 5 pulls discount. I've also heard we get free 10 pulls on sparkle patch? (I could be wrong about last one)

[verbal mountain]

yes we do

[small wing]

Sena > Thelema > lantern in that order imo

[lime star]

sena > thele > lattern.
But vita can do most of what sena can do, so, I could make a case for thelema in case you want coverage

[final locust]

Thelema > Sena >>>>> Lantern

[verbal mountain]

but thelema needs weap even as support

sena and lantern not as much

[final locust]

true i suppose

[gleaming imp]

Lantern bait easy skip would rather save my crystals for a adv

[lime star]

wouldn't make a case devoting to an S ranker without getting their weapon

[hard stream]

im not even in redlotus

[verbal mountain]

20 pulls on celeb supply could surprise someone

[edgy drift]

It's just random free pulls you have to use

[verbal mountain]

in which case sena weapless would have more value

[final locust]

if i get lantern helia weap is better than foundry weap right

[verbal mountain]

yea

[edgy drift]

Sena is best if you have nothing, she can be useful as support even without her weap

so if you get lucky you have something useable

[lime star]

can you estimate for ~9.5 weeks? #👶beginner-help message
add + 30 pulls

[verbal mountain]

mostly just cuz atk statstick

[small wing]

FR?

[final locust]

it's got some utility too tho

12% TDM and the sync buffs

better than nothing right

[verbal mountain]

i don't think lantern can deal dmg with weap active

unless i'm misremembering

at least not without sig

[final locust]

ur right dang it

[verbal mountain]

still 12% elem dmg

[final locust]

strangely enough though her sig has like nothing for support

[verbal mountain]

not nothing but not that much

[final locust]

yeah not that good

for songque

[wild citrus]

Lantern's sig is mainly for herself iirc

[verbal mountain]

yea

[final locust]

18% phydmg but helia does nothing kek

[verbal mountain]

18% phys dmg is barely any loss

[hard stream]

ahh...

[edgy drift]

won't change that much for songque supp yes. Tho the initial SP can be annoying to miss out on

[final locust]

what's even so important about lantern's ult

[edgy drift]

and Lamp still deals a bit of dmg as supp so you lose on that

[edgy drift]

hitcount

[lime star]

lattern is the hitcount valk

[final locust]

yeah

[final locust]

no buffs or anything? just the 35 hits?

[hard stream]

i have lantern at 3/4 no weapon

😢

[final locust]

i have her M

[wild citrus]

Indeed, it's basically damage and hits

(Vita Ult also does nothing but damage so)

[edgy drift]

all her triggered buffs seem tied to this

[final locust]

you get combo on QTE too tho right

or is that only with weapon

[edgy drift]

qte is a full refill yeah

[final locust]

nice

weaponless lantern doesnt seem that bad holdup...

[wild citrus]

Lamp-Sonq so nice

Alternating QTEs

[edgy drift]

as supp you don't lose that much yeah

similar to weapless Sena

[final locust]

nice

am i about to whale for lantern on Fes on Wednesday

maybe i am

maybe

[wild citrus]

[verbal mountain]

hoping to luck out in the 10

[final locust]

ril

i've got 2 chances

please for the love of god just give me this character

but if i get her i'll be like totally out of prisms

is it ok to skip sporkle'

[verbal mountain]

yes

very much so

[final locust]

i dont have a fire or qua dps tho

[verbal mountain]

wait for the next fire or qua

[wild citrus]

It's OK to skip everything and never pull

[verbal mountain]

or just get a worse one rn if that's what you want

less value

[wild citrus]

As long as you're OK with the consequences

[final locust]

i'll have trio soon enough

just missing htr

ill get her from BP

[wild citrus]

Real

Even if I got 4/4 Thel tomorrow (lol), no Prisms to enhance gear

To say nothing of Sparkle next patch

[restive rose]

Booo not the same

I got excited when I saw your ping I thought they were gonna put it in the shop or smth for crystals

[final locust]

it's not coming back period

you gonna have to cope with ruimu

[quick river]

im so mad about merge with hsr i cant even it overshadows the story of this game so much even aside from vitas character

[gleaming imp]

Lantern bait also seeing someone about to swipe

[final locust]

damn hi3 players complain about just about everything

[prisma tartan]

nah that's normal

[wild citrus]

You mean "go here do stuff save the day with protagonist plot armor"?

Also the Trailblaze has no stakes because you're constantly going back and forth regardless of supposed fuel limits?

Also you literally flaunt your relationship with wanted criminals at no consequence?

[gleaming imp]

But it gave vita a new girlfriend?

[young grail]

How's sparkle so far?
Is Vita still priotrity?

[quick river]

I mean its a big thing

[dusk marsh]

Hi so for ely we don’t need crystals right.

right…?

😢

[gleaming imp]

Yes, hoh elysia is free from 7.9 event missions

[dusk marsh]

wdym😭☹️

[misty geyser]

hoh elysia is free from 7.9 event missions

[gleaming imp]

You complete missions basically just play the game and you get elysia for free

[misty geyser]

❤️

[wild citrus]

I doubt HSR is gonna actually merge with HI3 plot. Over here in HI3 we're too busy worrying over local problems to be concerned about alien visitors unless they want to make it a problem

[quick river]

No more like if we a bringing aeons and honkai star rail then i feel it can easily overshadow the story because "omg star rail refrence" and it brings it to that aeons level then why should we care for mars if the story is just gonna be all about hsr now is a worry

[dusk marsh]

Ik that but do I need crystals like pulling the banner to get her???

[gleaming imp]

But collab = more kiana screentime

[wild citrus]

This reads like doomposting

[quick river]

Vita got mutiple so

[quick river]

quite the opposite

[gleaming imp]

More the merrier

[wild citrus]

Again, HSR is there to focus on those galactic problems, HI3 is worrying about our corner of the universe. This is partly why Vita mocks us for being too concerned about ourselves but F her, she's got no stakes on this planet

[edgy drift]

The whole plot of APHO is about being concerned about alien visitors

[quick river]

We litterly ended on chapter on "omg trailblaze" and introduced it with talking about aeons, we spend multiple chapters of part 2 trying to get kiana but then memo keeper appears and meet her with ease its so silly

[dense harness]

HSR lore wise only start a few years after p2 in HI3rd, after Welt and VA go out in the universe in 2029 i think it won't overshadow HI3rd

[rustic sinew]

https://fixvx.com/AbilfloridaArts/status/1847983320883433931?t=Eh1zAfxgMkzodp5RQTJkiA&s=19

[wild citrus]

That were repelled by like 2 ppl

[prisma tartan]

u can say on p2 no?

[dense harness]

The point of a memokeeper is to dive into memories and they also can dive into dreams, they can only do that because she is still asleep

[small wing]

the chapter ends saying that earths solar system was never touched by the aeons and never had a star rail made to connect it to the wider imaginary tree

[dense harness]

I could but i wanted to be more clear about which game i speak about i suppose

[edgy drift]

they weren't repelled tho

[small wing]

you're overworrying

[quick river]

" HI3 is worrying about our corner of the universe. " but it dosnt with new relvations it expands beyond that scope

[wild citrus]

[wild citrus]

This

[quick river]

yea and we spend most of part 2 doing anything to evena glimpse of info

[wild citrus]

Now calm down and let em cook

[dense harness]

Indeed

[wild citrus]

You can doompost later if they blow it

[edgy drift]

Ye, even Welt in HSR says he has no way to get back to Earth because they have no records about it

[dense harness]

It's part 2, Kiana is part one MC not part 2

[prisma tartan]

wiat how can not liking something called doomposting?

[quick river]

yea but it is now, it just says that to not rectone to much lore but its clear this is leading up to opening the system i just dont want this to be hsr 2.0

[quick river]

dont think so if people like hsr they gonna focus on it

[full iris]

I think if a player gets so easily distracted by "omg HSR reference" they probably aren't playing for HI3 plot in the first place anyway

[dense harness]

HSR and HI3RD were ALWAYS in the same universe, just one starting years after the other

It was but a question of time before we had a "merge"

[quick river]

there is a diffrence bettwen saying and doing it

[edgy drift]

"universe" used very loosely as a wide encompassing term tbh

[dense harness]

Yeh, couldn't find a word that represent something bigger

[quick river]

We now have a story that bearly makes sense if you dont play honkai star rail

[full iris]

They gotta do something about Welt and VA at some point after all

[edgy drift]

Hi3 and HSR already use that word very loosely so it's not on you

[dense harness]

Yeh, still waiting to find VA in HSR too , i need my merged lore

[edgy drift]

to mean the literal universe or parallel worlds in the same way, the english tl is confusing on those parts

[full iris]

Does it? I think it's still alright for now

[dense harness]

And i have the French version of the games text

[edgy drift]

that's fucked

[full iris]

Additional context from HSR makes it easier to follow but it's not at the point where u have to play HSR or don't bother reading story

[edgy drift]

Eh works fine as a standalone still

You can say the same thing the other way around

[dense harness]

I'm used to big overcomplicated stories so i dont' mind, i play KH series too

[quick river]

"OMG LETS HELP KIANA" "spends 3+ chapters help kiana" "suddely memokeeper that can just do whatever" i guess we are the losers here lol

[quick river]

you realy cant

[wild citrus]

Because it sounds like they already feel like HI3 is doomed in favor of HSR

Doom post

[quick river]

it is

[edgy drift]

Or you could already say you need to read 12 mangas, 2 VNs and some audio stuff to understand Hi3 plot. Spoiler, you didn't even tho they have context the game never tells you otherwise

[quick river]

tell me how its not i listen

[prisma tartan]

nah imo

[full iris]

You speak as if memokeeper is on our side…

Isn't that part more like "This is what is happening in Kiana's POV"

[quick river]

i dont i speak that its silly means it makes us incompetent

[gleaming imp]

Hsr collab = new players = game alive

[prisma tartan]

noooo

eos when

[edgy drift]

And what about the characters being powerless is an issue for the story ?

[full iris]

I suppose I don't get how it makes us look incompetent

[quick river]

Hsr dont play female only yuri/roomates games and intro is to outdated for most

[abstract night]

The promare collab made hi3 the most famous gacha game
U right

[gleaming imp]

But that's the best part

[quick river]

We need to defeat godess and live countless samsaras to even get a signal this hsr npc can just do it

[dense harness]

Also, as both a HSR and HI3RD player, while i did say "YES FINALLY HSR PLOT IN HI3" I also say "YES HI3RD REF IN HSR"

It absolutely goes both ways

[gleaming imp]

That's easy promare male centric and we all know male bad only female character good that's why the collab flopped

[prisma tartan]

when tot

[quick river]

well yea but not for hsr its whole thing is appealing to husbanos enjoyers and male protag users

[edgy drift]

Yeah, and you needed 45 chapters to get rid of Honkai while some bubble universe beings in Hi3 lore just snapped their fingers and done

[abstract night]

The random collab with mobius's face made hi3 the famous gacha game u right

[dense harness]

Breaking news : our main characters (humans from earth and DreamSeeker) are not all powerful

[full iris]

I don't know much about HSR lore but memokeeper vs our crew is working on different power levels no? Ofc Mei and the gang won't be able to reach to Kiana that easily compared to ppl whose job is to literally collect memories

[quick river]

I hated honkai impact refrences in star rail i think it took away from the lament of the fallens scene and its meaning now its not about Kiana but about trailblazer lol

[quick river]

we litterly have uber broken tech and muitple op gods items

[edgy drift]

like the entire point of the hi3 lore is that you're fighting against powers that are beyond your understanding, and suddenly you're shocked that someone showed powers beyong the characters' understanding

[prisma tartan]

well a good book will cover all the charter they have is good no?

[quick river]

Im not shocked laylah was already that power we are not fightning memokeeper she just can do that while ouer protags that were all about memory manipulation cant do anything

[prisma tartan]

ye

[full iris]

…I think you're overestimating the power scale of HI3's earth

[gleaming imp]

Considering the fact that mobius simps sold out the stock I'd say the collab was a success thanks to my snake queen

[dense harness]

Also, ofc i WILL take time for us to get what we want, if we had our goddess of earth with us things would be too easy

[quick river]

I think the game did that itself

[quick river]

disagree you already introduced hsr and that game has some broken beings

[prisma tartan]

we see some of our limits... for example we canr get out from our solar system

[dense harness]

I speaks about HI3rd earth, which has NO CONTACT with outside of the solar System, even within the Solar system we couldn't go because of Honkai blocking our way

[wild citrus]

And most of those are in the background

[quick river]

yea but im talking memories and dreams characters have allot of expiriance with that

[dense harness]

Only now are we starting to open up to the rest of the universe

[full iris]

Perhaps. Could be just me feeling diff, as I play HSR much more casually than HI3, but overall I feel HSR has organizations who is much more adavance than HI3 earth

[quick river]

introducing a memokeeper is silly when the whole arc is about Kiana and her coma that we need to figure out while struggling with shadows and laylah

[abstract night]

I guess shes the reason i dont own every lightning valk
Bc she sold out the patch she relesed

[edgy drift]

and we know that even a dozen+ years later in HSR timeline, the Earth is still closed off and unknown

[quick river]

Yea but the earth has some broken items as well easpacily when it comes to mind manipulation

[wild citrus]

Ofc, those organizations have not been trapped in stasis for countless years because of time loops

[abstract night]

Wait werent hi3 and hsr always connected since welt is from the hi3 world

[wild citrus]

So ofc they're more developed and expanded

[dense harness]

Yeh unlike earth, who was restrained by honkai for who knows how many Eras, HSR had civilisation that could flourish from interstellar exchange

[prisma tartan]

ye

[full iris]

Kiana as the goddess of earth is still a baby compared to other beings in HSR, she even still has classes and homework to do lol

[quick river]

yes but there is a diffrennce when characters interact with your story directly

[abstract night]

Then why is everyone like
"Oh ma gosh sparkles in hi3 and the events permanent"

[edgy drift]

they already interacted, you just weren't aware

[dense harness]

Yeh, Welt from earth along side VA went to travel the universe in 2029 (p2 is 2023 or 2024 i forgot)

[quick river]

yea but she has a power of way older beign lets not get into power scaling

[wild citrus]

Because Sparkle is a fan favorite and people totally expected someone else to be playable?

[abstract night]

Valkyrie Accipiter?

[dense harness]

That's what we'd like to know in fact

[quick river]

because its a hsr character in honkai impact

[dense harness]

Void Archives

[abstract night]

So?

[full iris]

what is the use of mind manipulation compared to tech and other voodoo magic system than I don't remember because I pay less attention to HSR lore

[quick river]

also because sparkle appears in the story interfeing with the story directly

[abstract night]

Gasp kiana is from ggz

:0

[prisma tartan]

[dense harness]

The memokeeper use a power from the Aion who govern over remembrance/memory, so ofc a memokeeper can meet Kiana

[abstract night]

I dont mean literally ggz kiana*

[quick river]

Welt didnt go to ggz and took a dump on its story like sparkle and aeons did to honkai impact 3

[abstract night]

Shes just also in ggz*

[quick river]

wich is dumb when you have a arc decicated to fixing kiana

[dense harness]

Welt went from HI3rd to HSR

[wild citrus]

Why

[gleaming imp]

I have a question what is this topic about I'm lost?

[wild citrus]

[abstract night]

I mean like whats so bad about sparkle

[wild citrus]

is the memokeeper gonna fix Kiana?

[quick river]

yea but he was in hsr since the start

[full iris]

HSR appearing in main story bad

[edgy drift]

So just to get you straight, you'd be fine if the story was the exact same with the only difference being that it's not a HSR character ? Like we remove HSR and don't change anything from the story suddenly you good ?

[wild citrus]

What do they gain by doing so?

[dense harness]

The arc is connected to DS and trying to see if Mars's situation can help Kiana it's not JUST Kiana

[quick river]

you are trolling scroll up if you so wish

[gleaming imp]

Oh

[wild citrus]

This Kiamei fan person is doomposting

[edgy drift]

You know Senti appeared in GGZ right ?

[abstract night]

G-g-gasp!

[quick river]

i cant play ggz so i dont have the context

[versed garden]

Ely also did

[prisma tartan]

so... vita she is hot

[full iris]

All of this yet Genshin is a game developed by Welt and Otto

[abstract night]

Yes u can

[gleaming imp]

Real for kiamei but I'm lost on the doomposting since it's just character from hsr appearing in story

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/vita-chibipiyo-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-4787064776639033678

[edgy drift]

so you're just assuming shit and being wrong about it now

[wild citrus]

Design ruined by lack of pantleg for me

[abstract night]

U can play on the jpn/cn server

[wild citrus]

Hot but if she gets a skin with the other pantleg I'm never going back

[prisma tartan]

wait for future outfit

[full iris]

Facts. Hoyo too coward to give her 100% pants smh

[quick river]

well i dont so i cant comment but the its still the fact that they will not just focus on hsr stuff instead of proper story wich is depressing

[dense harness]

And more, it's a character from a game we knew all along was part of the vast universe Hoyo is making

[gleaming imp]

Small indie company no budget for full pants vita please understand

[prisma tartan]

fk imagine its no 50% but 0%

[wild citrus]

They're basically saying HSR is creeping into HI3 and makes HI3 content pointless/overshadowed/taken over by HSR

[prisma tartan]

the martians fashion...

[wild citrus]

But, like, HSR onlies think the same of HI3

[edgy drift]

@quick river answer that

[full iris]

This feels like how we and CN server feel about each other "Hoyo must be pandering to the other side REEEEE"

[abstract night]

Anyways
What would be fucked up is if anything from the hoyo games we already got went into zzz and did stuff with the actual story (not just a what if) since they arent connected at all

[full iris]

which means this discussion is pointless

[dense harness]

[prisma tartan]

not entirely

[edgy drift]

ZZZ is very much connected too, they just want to let it stand alone for a while

[full iris]

because no agreement will be ever made until EoS

[quick river]

I feel like you are trolling its not just a character aside from vita being ruined (up to a long debate that i wont get into) introducing hsr lore to honkai impact in a manner that i was shown takes away from Dreamseekers story since it will be all about hsr stuff now since people like it, memoy keeper making everyone useless even somebody like vita or mutiple other heroes from the story is also super silly

[dense harness]

I'll just enjoy my HSR and HI3RD and let other be bothered by it if they so wish

[wild citrus]

Personally, I play both games and generally disdain both fanbases, so I'll take my shots at either as needed

[small wing]

Didn't they already confirm that ZZZ isn't ca part of the tree

[quick river]

and how is this diffrent from what happend in honkai impact story

[wild citrus]

For example, I can make fun of Hi3-hating HSR-players for Sparkle

[versed garden]

Devs made a statement it isn't

[full iris]

I suppose you replied the wrong message?

[edgy drift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ_Official/comments/1dwjo6t/some_clarification_on_zenless_zone_zero_and_the/

[wild citrus]

Sunbringer being the resident Kiana expy trust

[dense harness]

Sadly the part of the fanbases that we hear the most are those complaining when we have many ppl who like both or just don't bother if they don't want to bother

[steady granite]

what in the lore channel is happening here

[abstract night]

They can actually be connected

[full iris]

Same, we're all hoyo slaves players in the end anyway

[abstract night]

#Cn-gameplayloredebate-discussion

[edgy drift]

and there's already an Elysia face in a trailer

[wild citrus]

Idk it kinda derailed because of doomposting

[full iris]

This is proof honkai-vent should have stayed alive at least until collab is done

[quick river]

No you misunderstand Sparkle is not issue fools can just do that and she was always sus even if it was abrupt, what would make it better a bit , isgetting rid of a memory keeper scene since it just makes ouer characters uselss and makes them look silly. The fact is that implication of aeons and all these other groups just makes the story have mega lower stakes, but the worry is also that its just gonna focus on Hsr pandering

[wild citrus]

?????

[edgy drift]

And what's wrong with your characters being useless and silly ?

[steady granite]

oooh I get it
powerscaling

[quick river]

Anything can be connected with the power of writing bs

[steady granite]

bye

[wild citrus]

No.
Just no.
I'm out
You're a brick wall
Impossible to discuss with someone so obstinate

[edgy drift]

And saying "it's just gonna focus on HSR pandering" is you doomposting on speculations you created yourself

[dense harness]

I mean, no ? Just because we have main characters doesn't mean other characters (npc or nah who cares) can't interfere outside of our powers

[prisma tartan]

its all about powercreep? i thought it was about leylah story not finished

[edgy drift]

Kiana's whole story is her being useless and silly for way too long before actually doing something useful in the end

[quick river]

this is like if durig belabog Mistlin fell from heavens and yoinked the stellaron

[edgy drift]

During belobog, we fell from heavens and yoinked the stellaron

[quick river]

Not powerscaling how does it even sound like one

[dense harness]

We sure did

[quick river]

i said mitslin not us tho

[gleaming imp]

This should've happened so my queen Hare could save my queen cocolia

[quick river]

same to you if you just avoid the subject

[versed garden]

Hmm

[edgy drift]

idk how that changes the story, you could name yourself Misteln if you want to

[quick river]

it should have stayed in general

[full iris]

This is starting to feel like entering a strawman argument

[edgy drift]

always has been

[full iris]

true

[edgy drift]

they're complaining about stuff that hasn't happened

[gleaming imp]

Like how is hsr sparkle in hi3 a bad thing? When sparkle is a queen?

[analog iron]

what did i walk into

[edgy drift]

"they will only pander to HSR and booboo my hi3"

[dense harness]

Or a story would have been made like when Mistln went to the mini vitas world

[quick river]

it did happen tho

[analog iron]

back to beginner channel i go

[gleaming imp]

You're so real for this

[dense harness]

Ah yes, run away before being caught in the storm

[small wing]

They should update beginner supply to have Senadina and Thelema

[quick river]

Thet should give sparkle for free

[gleaming imp]

Also songque aop

[gleaming imp]

But small indie company needs funds

Without funds = eos

[quick river]

they should have added acheron it would made same amount of sense and say sparkle brought her in for a ride while making sparkle free

now that would be kino

[full iris]

This is like back when captain showing up during the final battle with the power of friendship

That's the vibe I'm getting

[gleaming imp]

8.0 acheron HoO skin trust

[prisma tartan]

hofi adv when?

[edgy drift]

you complain about HSR pandering on now you want Acheron to pop in instead of Hi3 Mei

[quick river]

what are your theories on 8.0 unit

[gleaming imp]

Real I need a hofin adv rerun for ss2

[dense harness]

Well, i stopped trying to understand their mind

[prisma tartan]

ningyo elf

https://tenor.com/view/elsie-wo-gk-anime-world-only-god-knows-keima-gif-13652728

[quick river]

no all im saying it would make same amount of sense and would sell im mainly complaining about cosmological implications

[edgy drift]

I don't think they even do themselves

[dense harness]

Elf in p2

[gleaming imp]

Only characters left are dreamseekers Rita look alike sister and smol dudu and Ajita so one of those 3

[dense harness]

Fair enough

[prisma tartan]

elf good

[full iris]

Dudu battlesuit time to bring back the "dudu is hoyo's fav child" comments

[edgy drift]

yes pls

[quick river]

i didnt even read her stories but it feels like it with the fact she never got tha trematch with mei

[gleaming imp]

HoT vs dudu bait

[dense harness]

I call Dudu AOp

[full iris]

Ohh I've seen that guess before

[dense harness]

Dudu AOp for new ring or RoO

[quick river]

I feel Ajita is a secret villain

[dense harness]

Dudu and Kiana played together

[versed garden]

seconded

[full iris]

I have 25 pity left from trying to get Kiana Elf I might actually pull if it's really Durandal lmao

[dense harness]

Dudu AOp woth Kiana DPS on trio

[full iris]

My pity for that banner is bugging me

[edgy drift]

Just make it Dudu valk with Dudu aop

[versed garden]

[dense harness]

Dudu Valk and Kia AOp

Kinda fixed of the Sisters am i not

[full iris]

That's just PE and Dudu Elf 2.0

[edgy drift]

Yup

[versed garden]

Dudu valk and Rita Aop

[edgy drift]

PE was also missing a Dudu support, so make new Dudu valk P1 phys support too k thanks

[prisma tartan]

fk i was so confused on the Aop

[edgy drift]

who's Rita ? It's just Vita now

[prisma tartan]

and it was atral op

[versed garden]

The better Vita

[prisma tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446011203244916747/1294565090749583360/gifka-export50.gif

[prisma tartan]

the og

[versed garden]

ah forgot to turn off the ping

[full iris]

All that's left of Rita is AK boss