#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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yeah but like she had no say in the matter
that was mandatory work
Only bc of sa 
Who is sa?
can you call a character doing bad when their existence is on the line a villain?
dw bout it and leave this chat
also. go to lore
its a mostly spoiler free chat despite it not being intended to be one

I'm bored to play hi3 part 1 but i didn't want to skip 
if you dont like it maybe it just isnt for you
or maybe you just burned yourself out and should take a break
regardless not a good idea to hang around here if you dont want to spoil yourself
I want hi3 part 2 spoilers 😻
I think doing current story and events would be better.
Wdym current story?
I mean ongoing version event story.
"i didn't want to skip"
no 
Hi3 part 1 is just so sad
Yeah but It's just some of the story,not all
Part 2 has sort of different story right?
Yes thats why i skip and literally go to the part 2
But I'm just playing in a short time
it's not a different story
If i'm bored playing part 1
I mean it's about new region right? Story about Shadows?
everything is connected and major world building from part 1 is used in the new story
I think Part 1 was like battle against Honkai and Part 2 is initially sort of like battle against shadows.
Vita Hyperion /\
the... shadows are Honkai
Wait for real?
I don't count Vita story
Nope. that is only Chapter 1-3 at the moment
from Ch 4 and on we are not sure but we are changing location a bit
Owhh
Because i hate that "dog" shit 🙏😭
Right in the first phase of chapter 1 we're told that ...
but if people do not read
I just skip on the "dog" part honestly,bc i think it was useless
Yea
Oh sure ignore the character upon which the entire chap 1 was based on 
kiana elf ded kek

still the best for me
@opal flint if you want to continue story from part 1 and go each chapter by chapter it's not a bad idea really.
It was suppose to be liike that?
Or some people have different way
thats kinda odd cuz like you need part 1 and 1.5 to understand part 2
I would say part 1 introduces you to main story of Honkai Impact and it has different characters and boss fights.
did you read honkai?
I aint playing apho
this game is like.. a 3rd version from the origin right?
Most boring
cuz ggz + ggz2
Like i literally skip all of it
@opal flint I think part 1 is more about journey of Kiana.
Yes
ggz, houkai gakuen 2, honkai impact 3rd
oh yep dat
hi3 has parallels but no direct ties to ggz
part 2 still uses some concept from part 1
But if you just want to experience latest story you can start from part 2 and try to do current event story and stuff.
part 2 is built off of concepts introduced in part 1 as well as a direct sequel to several part 1.5 characters.
the first 5 chapters of p1 is much more simpler to understand compared to p2 on my experience
reading part 2 without any of that will often lead you confused or possessing no context for whats happening
reading part 2 without p1 or 1.5 is literally just not how its intended to be because its a sequel story.
I saw a meme somewhere- "Honkai Impact Players Can't Read."
you're right, they cant.
I think it was mainly because many skip content at times.
no, its because they just dont do them. not just skip them.
That Skip Button comes in handy.
tbf, you can pretty much understand the story even you don't read dialogues. (ofc no skips)
I mean when you are bit bored but you want to do story content fast so that you can do other stuff.
it's long ass bro
like some arcs are as long as genshin's
even you don't read dialogues
You start a story thinking it's a short story and you would finish it. You keep reading and it keeps on going eventually you feel bored and wonder why is there a skip button. You feel urge to press it.
thats just bad logic
oh im tired of this story so ill just skip ahead type beat
surely I wont be as tired of it when its just the same story continuity but with me confused
you can click rapidly so you can pretty much follow what's going on even you're bored
which is what I do atleast
good logic would be skip the game so you wont get more confusing 
just dont read if you dont want to, forcing yourself like that leaves you lacking in context.
I never skipped any story cuz I'm getting all cgs 
TRUEEEEEEEE
But what if u curious about the story but u cant read?
I mean you usually get new story with event patch. You don't know how long is it or when it is autosaving?
Also there are some events where you have to do some stuff daily to level up characters and stuff.
So skip button comes in handy.
real
you can read
you just dont want to
go wiki, they have summarizations on some arc
did you notice you are reading this chat
events and main story are not the same.

mind blown
Yeah
then dont read it, simple
just do something else, if you don't want to read it it means you dont care for what happens in it
U know why? In this game 1 dialogue sometimes is Like 1 fucking chapters, especially on part 2 like bro it took me 30 mins on 1 fricking dialogue
but reality isn't that simple 
section*
if you dont like reading it then dont
Yeah sorry bad English skibidi
its fine to not read it if you dont care about it
Skipping is fine, it's when those who skip hallucinate up lore that's a pain 
just dont pretend like you do then skip story then complain that you dont know whats going on or claim to be a fan and you'll be good
But i force it bc i'm curious and want to know what happen,but it make me bored more fast
this

so you force yourself to read p1 and when you get tired you force yourself to read p2?
how do you NOT see how numbskull that is
That's why
Fr
it's pretty much personal preference at this point
I dont get it
Yeah
I'd say p2 story sucks ass, personally
like you're telling me its personal preference to read a short form story, get tired of it, move on to the sequel story, get tired of it and repeat?
what kinda logic is this when the sequel story is longer with each chapter
I don't repeat,if im bored by two of it i quit
Taking break
Skibidi
I mean, there's loads of weird reading methods out there, you get used to it 
I disagree. ty discord for not replying for me
nah, it's simply they felt dialogues being long on p1, and shorter on p2, in which they preferred p2
I dont think I can get used to it
Thats ur opinion
No I think they meant they just find part 2 gameplay more fun than part 1
But now i don't play p2 again and focusing on p1 bc i just wants elysia story fr 
This
yep, which seems a personal preferrence 
idk cuz like thats a whole other topic at that point
I just realized ai chan bot is buffed 
I think it's best to just go from chapter to next chapter in part 1.
But if you feel bored it's best to just take a break.
Okkk
You get introduced to part 1 characters as per the story.
There are some boss fights at times.
But I don't think it's good idea to ignore current ongoing event for it.
the current "ongoing events" are events that are permanent and are story sensitive to 1.5 and 2.
ignoring them is what you SHOULD do until you're caught up.
this is for GLB, not CN idk bout CN events.
only a small one in the main story tab right now.
dunno about ranch mk-vi
ooo
gotchu
how many vita hyperion are there 😭
you should become one of us
I dont want to be brainwashed...
How to get hyperion symbol on ur name
just copy paste 
just copy paste
Ok
you mean lambda?

lambda
yeah just copy paste, here Λ
Lamb
norway
da
lamp
den2629
lambda
Why tf i copied ur username not display
that's not lambda
Vita Hyperion Λ
Can u sent
Thx
Vita Hyperion Λ
it's spreading 
YEAAHHH
Bita
I shant follow trends
BRO WE FUCKING PRESSED ON THE SAME TIME

ew trends
Fr
🗿
very quirky and special you are
Who special?
Horb
surely will get dkey too since also last herrscher and beloved valk
Zamn
ty for accepting sensei req @somber egret
I'll make you a good amount of points 
ED song : https://youtu.be/AJDgeE0Fhdw
Playlist Honkai Star Rail : https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqMf9lzEhG2ubgYWvAqrG--2KuBnzM92G
About your brain Genshin Impact : https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqMf9lzEhG2u5QtPn1E9FAiuZk8eKmfXq
#traveler #mihoyo #kanchou #honkaiimpact #genshinimpact

burn him at the stake!
yes

an ex asked to slap her


how much total pulls do we get next patch?
160
vita bad
Bald
What do yall think Sparkle's role will be?
My speculation: Rite of oblivion, replacing Coralie as Vita support, and being able to function as dps in RoO team too. She might also support WoD or WS
I expect the 8.0 valk will be of a new astral ring type, with Songque, Vita being supports (Coralie and Sparkle also possible because of RoO)
This is just speculation of course.

Vita new girlfriend
Everyone is Vita girlfriend, whether they like it or not
so Siegfried
Do you have this image at full scale
Yeah
wow
I got the same thing
Accidentally tapped too fast so idk my rank but I'm also in A2
never
oh boy
No lantern?
Time to lv bruteforce
who

at least its not rimestar
Kek
Use your usual device to consume equipment
ive been playing on this pc for a month there are no other device
it is my usual device
Seewe 
Use your usual device to consume equipment
wow so helpful breath
I worked hard coming up with it
Save for 8.0 valk Apho Teri

nah 8.0 is elysia valk
elysia return true
elysia my 3rd fav character fr
are the first 2 seele and seaweed
fighting to be 2nd
seaweed and syringe?
no
i have been in this server for years
dont you know my fav
u think I know you?
it has been my bio for years
u think i can read?

wait so why isnt syringe your fav char?
why ddi u just say no 
who is syringe is it seele
i like seele but i keep this pfp bc it was funny back in beta
maybe i should change it
sirin is ok
seele is seaweed..
do as u like
i dont hate sirin
i got used to u with that pfp tbh
but i dont like her either
like i instantly recognize u
HoV more like CoD because you know
She hates everyone equally
i like sirin bc shes half HoV but also hate her bc shes half kiana
they balance out eatchother
???


Sirin is sirin
HoV is..something
Both are her majesty the queen 
Also I finally got my hoo and hotruth weapon to 65

I need teris wep.
There fine characters. I just dont necessarily like using them all the time
HoV > sirin > kiana
Nyx > Aponia > HoV > Sirin > Mei > Griseo > Bronya > Kiana > Ely
HoV > Mei > Ely > no idea what to put here >>>> kiana
Kiana>Mei>everyone else>prolly shit>Ely
i think they will close the abyss lmao
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EPs9eTEiT
BGM: Φ² - HOYO-MiX/TetraCalyx
lmao the evade again
dmg is way overkill
intentionally left out 1 full combo in p1, 1-1.5 extra bar of hp in p2
so s0+1 is also very doable (a few points lower cuz maybe u will need hotr to kill at the end)
angry chicken
She reminds me white red vita and ely
@somber egret hey vita ai chan, is there any rotations examples for vita?
just play the in game tutorial 
_ _
eww tutorial
what a chicken! this will be a feast today! 
theres only 2
and ik those
so whats the issue

just play the char 
lmao ice res
keklema ded
theleover
no thelema cheesing there
im doing guides
that's different
I like how Vita's non-Astral build is made for Kevin + Su.
Her origin is Kevin mentality + Su look after all. 
Omg thelema bad real 
oh ikr kevinsu canon

Why couldn't this prior step just be 100 
Get HoFI 
Artbook for 650, dkey 750, yeah you can get both (cmiiw)
Is the free 2x celebration ten pull for the vita banner?
For anniversary banner: Sena, Lantern and Thelema
Fes Cards
Fes Banner 

Do we have a ss of the art book shop?
Shop? It's a Chinese factory
BRO
tyty
When we will know if Sparkle is WT?
by 7.8 i believe
Sparkle is gacha
very likely she is, we usually get WT valk around this time of year
Is it possible to get the book and dkey and prism thing
we have no info on that yet
you should be able to buy out the whole shop
Sure man, we also have no info for it being wt either
Naw art book shops you can’t buy out usually
yeah but you said it with certainty
unless you skip book
id prio artbook (if you want) > dk > prism ticket > shards > SC > shifters then ig
It doesn't matter how I say it, as long as there's no legit info, anything in it is absolutely theorycrafts
personally im skipping artbook bc i just dont really care
Yeah I just wanna know if we have enuf currency for the top 3
I might skip art book too
and i need DK, ticket, shards, shifters, SC and AL 
I skipped the second one so it would be weird to have 1 and 3
I don’t need the rest of the stuff tho
Book 3 should come with freebies like book 2
i think that's the whole shop
I just did some math whole shop is 4730
well
dried
How good is vita weapon on sena as a cope weapon and vice versa
vita is so 

why can't next month just start already, there's like 3 things in different games coming out then 
huh\

Hibernate

I wish azur promillia comes out much sooner 
So I can have another cozy game
never heard of it 
another gacha game 💀
this needs to stop, every time I see a new game that looks kinda cool these days, it's always another shitty gacha 💀
blue Promy? 
Gotta make income so game remains free
And how do u make income
By selling waifu and husbando
just make a normal game, that tends to work still 

Yea but u gotta profit from it somehow
yeah by selling the game like normal 
Either the game itself should be paid, or the cosmetics
yeah make the game paid and have paid cosmetics, we don't need gacha mechanics holding it back 
Might as well buy macro transaction games
Like elden ring
Atleast you'd only pay once

Atleast for gacha games, you can rely on something called "luck", and you'd never think about giving away bucks anymore


but why risk making a profit of 2-3x only if your game is insanely good when you can release a slob, make it gacha and have 500x returns 
Yea
And it also helps with game quality cause more money = more team members to polish game
what happened to making games to actually be a good game instead of only caring about money 
Tho I do wonder how exhausting it is to work on things like hi3 constantly and giving updates every month
I blame patches
people say "dead game" when a single player thing has bugs and stops getting support
when... that's how games used to be
having an ongoing expense necessitates ongoing revenue
You just get more manpower
Tbf, there's more contributors for a game to die, not just dat
Gone
No more
gotta go to indie stuff for that
Some macrogames also became ass now anyways
pretty much 95% of AAA releases 
Its alright you can always play a no wish account
Then u don't have gacha experience 
(And get soft locked from doing hard content)
well, ""hard"" content 
I think gacha games now and the upcoming ones are actually going into cozier type of game rather than competitive
you'd be well pressed finding actual difficulty in a gacha without artificially creating it yourself by limiting what you can use

everything since GI is, they saw the numbers and all want a slice of that pie
I mean hi3 is just
No valk? Demote to sinful
and I wouldn't really call stat checks hard content either
Hoyo's definition of difficulty is literally just increase enemy HP 
Atleast some gacha games actually bother to add a different gameplay in similar boss once they go into upper levels. Smth like dat
In hoyogames, literally no difference
well MA does that technically 
now, now
they also have bs grab attacks that use up the mission timer
even from B to SS the bosses change movesets, with SSS bosses being an entirely new thing
I hope they bring dat type into abyss as well 
Day 87
there's not really a point
that'd just punish lower rank players by having to fight a thing that's even more of a punching bag with no attacks
I doubt they'd punish them, it'll give better experience for those who have no stuffs though, to fight the boss' weaker version
they already do fight a weaker version, the only thing that changes if you have no stuffs is less dmg
so less hp is enough
removing the few stuff that require you to play the game won't be a good thing 
I just think that, for example, sss heph on nirv then the SS version in rl, where you can use other valks(esp the much more old valks) instead of specifically 1-2 valks and the other old valks are just there dying in shelf 
buff mode is already super-easy mode for every SSS boss except Aponia in my experience
SS heph is just a worse boss in every way tho
I'd rather get fucked by the timer when SSS heph goes immune than it just happening randomly whenever it feels like it
Huh, Sparkle will probably be a dedicated support for Vita or something, won't she? If HoFi or Coralie had to get powercrept out of her team, who would get kicked out? Coralie, right?
Coralie would go first yeah
Coralie likely
But I personally think hofi would go first, hofi isn't really a support valk, she's just there bcuz she's an roo type, and vita needs it

Hofin on top since herrscher trio on top

Manifestating early hofin dk and week 5-6 hofin adv

if only there were, like, pinned messages or something at the top of the channel, showing what all is scheduled when...
Week 5-6 news where?

up through 11/15
#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
No week 5-6 news yet

huh, not sure how we count weeks, then
4 weeks of October, 2 of November, and the last bit of Sept puts it at week 7 from here...?
7.8 starts October 17
how long until we know what the banners will be in 2nd half 7.8?




When cn reach the 2nd half of 7.8

when is that 
damn

quite literally 1984
sowhel
@craggy sentinel amg
T1 so whel
why so low
real
Whats the boss
HoI
Whats the bods on cn rn
flower
Trio weather 
erm???
got lazy and did one run then sleep
kurowhel wheel’d his way into my bracket to snipe me

Hi everyone how are you ?
U whel


This might be my best er run so far with my snake queen

what rank is she
SS 4/4

Fine I will
, I'll try again for my snake queen 
How about you watch some YouTube guide before
Who needs guide when just press buttons 

Me

will the free pulls count towards the spending
No
Yes 
Five seconds off from 5 minutes 
My run was scuffed though
yeah 4 ellie somehow


big
New valk? I don’t like her design
look hot
real
Teri teri's sp suit is bio what a great observation
Fr
Aduma 
Why does this type counter seele when seele beat it
when will sparkle info be revealed?
Vita patch just started for cn
We'll get sparkle info during vita patch probably
Dont take my word for it :')
Heres the all powerful vita hyperion clone..i remember the husk era lmao
Valks are introduced the patch before they are playable
yesn't
not me, i need qua lightning because the new qua weather is an absolute bs with FR 
teri being powercrept already
it would be reallyyyyyy weird if sparkle wasnt qua
she can change her type
rite of oblivion like vita hopefully cuz i dont think i'll be able to get HoFi card 😞
she’s a masked fool, she could be stardust if she wanted to 
||Vita||-type 
or IMA 
she trollin us
watch sparkle playable aint real
A rank sparkle trust 
woouldnt it be time for a new A rank anyways, we havent gotten one in a while
i would expect one for new ring type, shouldn't be now
imagine they make sparkle a p1 valk
any p1 lightning dps
does she replace eden or Hotr
not completely replacing, but she can replace eden, also luna replace hotr
damn HoT keeps winning
||new honkai ip?|| 
context ||they are hiring employee for new honkai ip, that picture is used for the hiring post||
that is not kiana who is this fraud
you are dottor
I like defining every single breathing human with those white suits as dottors
why? idk, probably have hit my head at young age
romani 💯
Honkai CC spammed me with cries when I took Romani to have sweets

She looses team tdm? That luna gives (u need 3 different types, like bio quantum psychic, or mecha quantum psychic, or imaginary psychic quantum, etc)
do we have any translations for the artbook event missions
wen paetch rilease?
7.8 iirc
hfiover
mid confirmed
ok whel translate it
Amg
ong les go
hofi can gain ring energy during timestop, will fix later
Didnt close abyss
Where my free nirv emblem
free emblem for 2 minutes ong
ur so bad
is it possible to get the artbook without redlotus/300 logins
yeah you’ll just need to farm longer
if you’re sea then low chances
unless sea is even more dead
on sea 
whys there only 25k copies D:
prolly less poeple tho
should be easy
Eu so dead there were books left on 5th week
Did i flex my artbook before
(im scared to get it out of the box)
cn so ded

Cn so ded 500k artbooks somehow run out
do you just need level 88 and to play daily
If not rl/300 day likely need to have some amt of daily presence just to be safe
A3 safe right? I forget
Tea
yea you either retain RL or login for 600 days
Hell yeah omw to get artbook in agony 2
the requirement for abyss clearing is ag3 and above
still need to clear other missions faster than other players
no need to rush honestly
Almost 900 amg
If theres like an img weather i can get to a3
even cn players are taking their time
what are the missions?
You're eu
You can sleep and just do some missions and still get it
Eu has artbooks left on week 5
Ded server, yea 
i need to stop sleeping 😭
Just dont spend all currency on torus before book like i do
Shit
The missions boil down to just actually playing the game and not slacking 
It says play part 2 story
help have you been playing the game
you are 400 token behind if no 300 days and red lotus
no.
complete ch4 and 5
Are these uh available any time
They give country list later yea?
Yes
what was the list before?
Almost all eu gets book
im not in eu :[
I lowkey forgot
i dont think au would get book ngl
I think it gets

Guys can i play that part 2 ch 4 5 thing without playing chapter 1 thing
yes
Thank god
I Didn't take the 2nd one cuz idk that some Asia on the list in Eu server
I only have 2nd one
Missed 1st book bc of a very funny reason
yo aus is on there
of course 🇦🇺 is
Oh hey a number is calling me
Hand over thay vol 1

gimme all ur volumes
I can give you 5 dollars for it
From dawei himself maybe 
cn bloodbath
left
taken
Dawg
wait

i cant read cn 😭

Cn either so dead or so alive
cant tell if thats the amount left or taken
It’s taken 
taken

Why cn so ded
Left
there was a boom yesterday because that was day 1 you could buy it
ban
right
Cn abt to be more dead than eu

2nd wave will be in friday
barely 100k gone in 2 days 💀
i thought so
eos when
day 2 got only 5k claimed
Wait am I actually reading it wrong
top 500k is 880 now
Give some of those 400k books to sea
did it get lower
Did you just ignore the other 3 people that said otherwise 😭
Oh wtf cn slacc
cn slacc is real

eos soon
Misread then
seems like he did
oh i need to fill my address

🧼
I blame my hsk certificate expiring
it's CN only deliver iirc
It actually feels smarter than my comments comments on instagram
The moonrune knowledge got sucked back

that was the only message i saw lmao
Channel full of cooked cabbage
🛁
Love it when genshin players cant read and fight with me instead
Channel full of nested birb 🪺 
Not that HI3 players read a lot

I mean i used to read at least
reading in 2024
I did read til 5.4 or smth
No bully me
I would eat them
I am a bad bad birb now, I will bite Khai when bullied
Eos soon real

lol it saved my address i filled in last year 

Sniped by mhy rip
Thats crazy
different than vol 2 damn
I will be moving soon anyways so
I remember for vol 1 there was only address and name, didnt even get phone number
vol 2 had phone number so 👍 safe from local delivery
I got a call from local delivery saying they had the package, and I told them to give it to neightbour as I wasnt home
for v1 I was at home so I got it myself
Mmmmm china air still alive
What does that plastic wrap air smell like did anyone try
usual air quality you smell with every chinese product tbh
I dont know what's the science behind it, but it's so recognizable
That book is like my first ever chinese product
I dont buy online
And shipping is 2 times the item 
Eu moment
i wonder if the pages in those sealed book got glued together yet
average world economy where ship tax is 40€ just for the cheapest chinese product
uh 
I've read v1 again after an year, and it wasn't glued at all
talking about those that are still sealed
there were over 500000 for free noway its like 60-160 dollars and theres none left
there are people who actually got it and havent read it ? 😭
mine got nom'd by house rat 💀
Unless you live in 50 degrees or smth
I saw someone with 3 vol 1s sealed

I had one extra v1 from sea but only found out later it was only limited for a few places
ended up shipping it to a random guy I knew online
in my country, people sell their book for 15$ or so
Wait i live in asia uhuh
im probably the only hi3rd player in my country
which country are you from (thats if you feel free to say)
Its like russia half Asia half Europe
2 mods of this server are australian, and a third is living here for study
shush

I know 2 australian players as well 💀

im tryna exaggerate and ur ruining it
nuh uh
I know like 10 here
yuh uh
It's like Room 1 in EU hiding half italians
And many of them paid taxes to get book
Which country in Asia has the most hi3 players (not including CN)? 
JP
Prob jp or kr

I don't remember artbook sold out graph of jp/kr hm
how many books do they get
I'm not sure tbh
which vita
piyo
Precious Piyo
yeah no i dont remember
i need the 2nd one 

im in debt to someone on germany
nuh uh

ill give u 30 aud
nah
buy me that one sakura miku and deal
wait no i wont sell book im gonna show it to my grandson
grandson elysia this is where your name comes from
nah
5000 for JP server not for sale
why we bullying jp
they got their own server for some reason
and i forgot but there was a time runner rerun or smth jp only
Japanese for JP server, no sales or printing other than the 5000 copies
no way jp only book
seem small but but jp has lot of whale
am i looking at wrong book or is jp artbook different
@glass nacelle how many artbooks are there left
~400k
399999
cn so dead

Took 10 days last year
500k books in 10 days or
To grab 500k
kek
not sure they can sell 500k in this ver
they give leftovers to sea real
is u dis
that looks like one of old gacha salt residents
plz accept mega whel
cnover
but he left game 2 years ago
did a lot of ppl quit
for like hsr and things
they didnt like part 2 so true
i gave you my offer
I haven't even done mine
im in 183 euro debt for a miku
hell yeah
no like I haven't done the event



people not liking part 2 can be compared to people not liking honkai impact chapter 1/2
we were introduced to an entirely new planet and character cast, so it was expected to not understand what was going on
i like 1.5
Miyoushe acc 
huh
i like 0.0
Cant access anniv event invites wo it as i remember
amazing story line and the cast was phenomenal
kek
@willow perch was there any shipping/tax costs for you sorry for the ping 
no shipping only tax
1k$ tax 
hoyo pays shippinh
We don't even know if this event is available on other servers 
nuuu 
surely righ

i paid 5 dollars tax last book
i will farm a cn account to level 81 in 1 patch if i must
Australia has no import fees for products below $1000 (TL;DR no
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i had to pay 5 dollars 

book 1 people had to pay 10 dollars
AI chan will tax you
Ai chan cant touch me
ult is melee? gg
Vita can touch AI chan||'s PC||

drain the genshin players' wallets so we get free artbooks
wait wat
u mean hsrs?
they get some mercy






