💁gameplay-help

[vast lagoon]

she gives only s rank buffs anyways

[half hatch]

ah right the ones for attributes are S lmao

[crude cloak]

Did you try PS btw

[vast lagoon]

trying now

bleed sushang dmg is SO right?

[half hatch]

i mean the attribute related buffs are 2% higher than what DS provides in SO, the only thign that would explain YY outperforming here is an extreme dilution so that the 12% total dmg dealt is worth less than the 2% total dmg taken

[half hatch]

Sushang in SO all the time if she's the leader and enters with her qte

[vast lagoon]

yy > ds

[vast lagoon]

dilute what? isn't yy giving literally 0 in SO?

[half hatch]

this applies all the time

[steady osprey]

ps is ws/wod?

[half hatch]

wait

im dumb

didnt saw the first part

lmao

[vast lagoon]

cn seems to be the same... only ARC and ws/wod rings

[steady osprey]

bcs it is

should be 0 buff in SO

[half hatch]

maybe code is spaghetti and considers augmented ascension both ARC and SO

what about RoO did you try her there

[vast lagoon]

iirc there were no such problems with other aops? well need to check it

[steady osprey]

but if the dmg is higher than ds, its either code or translation

[vast lagoon]

ok wait. but en translation directly states SO "not" ARC would be fun tranlsation error then

[half hatch]

yeah but i think that augmented ascension is a bit of a grey area and could be considered both by the games code because you technically still regenerate ARI while also receiving SO buffs, and regenerating ARI is directly tied to ARC

[vast lagoon]

gogle

[vast lagoon]

just need to calculate if those buffs the same as from arc and if other aops have the same issue

[half hatch]

what description is that btw

[vast lagoon]

augmented ascension (later part)

[steady osprey]

yy ps heavenly dmg 455k, ds ps heavenly dmg 1m2

(the big hit that u need to press atkx3)

[half hatch]

just tested fdd DPS in yy was worse for me there as well

[vast lagoon]

2 times diff?

what rank btw?

[vast lagoon]

i guess it's loa issue

well, then

[half hatch]

hm it's kinda weird the game specifically says that you now get the buffs provided by SO instead of ARC but the question is what are considered buffs, because you still need to be in ARC to regenerate ari either way

[steady osprey]

my bad

[vast lagoon]

maybe it's not "considered arc state" so there are no problems with that

[steady osprey]

it seems i failed to apply support buff at some point

[vast lagoon]

apply support buffs in SO kekw

(i know you can wait for 25 seconds to cast ps super qte but it's still funny)

[steady osprey]

SSS DS

SS YY

[vast lagoon]

well ds>yy during stellar shift itself (small numbers) but others are yy>ds

same for sera which is good in SO and bad during arc

yeah i know the answer now. aops carry only about actual so duration which is ||1s||

LoA dedicated AOp btw. i wonder if that works wrong too

[obtuse lintel]

so without horb im cooked?

[last hull]

More or less

If ur lucky with your bracket, you could maybe retain with XDC

[obtuse lintel]

i wont even try ig

[steady osprey]

LV DK

[last hull]

But it's not gonna be pretty to do

[obtuse lintel]

no

[last hull]

Also an option

[obtuse lintel]

is not

[steady osprey]

no dk still work i guess

SW p1 kira also work on clock

[quasi pier]

p1 luna does fit the weather, p2 luna doesn't funnily enough

[obtuse lintel]

i mean

[last hull]

No CE gear?

[obtuse lintel]

[last hull]

Oh wait ur Luna's not even 4/4

[obtuse lintel]

[last hull]

Just go XDC then

[quasi pier]

i r baboon in first, that's wild

[obtuse lintel]

nah

id need to create a rot by myself bc theres no ref

or going back and forth here sending and getting corrections

i dont have that much time

[quasi pier]

technically there's old refs of luna stealing this boss from horb but they most likely all have ce because she gathers at the end

[steady osprey]

CE gather?

[quasi pier]

yeah her wa gathers

[left summit]

how to fight new abyss boss and get a high score I have all the recommended characters but can only get like 600 bonus points??

[jade zephyr]

I recommend to search on YouTube the abyss boss + the characters you’re using & see what other people are doing

[hearty bane]

is there any way to do ME's evade + WA faster?

[plucky gust]

ngl i want this room. 1st is 766. . .such chill room

[dusky mantle]

Yikes

Hod next?

[vernal terrace]

Rita boss yeah

[dusky mantle]

Ok time to nirv then free sleep

[vernal terrace]

[naive shoal]

whats the 2nd best dps option for this abyss boss

[cunning gull]

no one to take advantage of the weather without horb so the next best shot is luna dkey

[lapis raven]

i rmb when this was a luna boss

bad times

[naive shoal]

https://klipy.com/gifs/robin-hsr-3--k01KS1ZSREHW8CEDF805HZFX79K

demote it is for me

[grizzled lance]

what should i run as my third teammate on horb this abyss? i have sss sw and my optjons for third spot are ss hle xdc and lds, s sporkle and fws

[spiral raven]

vita

[dusky mantle]

None of the choices tho

[spiral raven]

oh badum then

[gentle pike]

lamp/rita/vita or vita/a rank cora /a rank helia?

hoyo add hofi dkey to reserve works and my life is yours

[crude cloak]

Should be the left one

TC + actually proper team

Your Vita DPS is too copium

[gentle pike]

656 points with it,idk if anything i got can do more,let me send my char list

do i got like anything that can do more

[crude cloak]

Nah

[gentle pike]

goddamit

wtv ill settle with 100 trophies

if i do just 30 points higher i can be #3 and i can promote to a3

[crude cloak]

I don't think your score should be that low in A2

Even with Lantern

Can you record a run

[gentle pike]

my phone cant rlly handle it 😭

what i do is switch to vita at first,attack until i get her ult,ult,then do that charged attack,then qte with rita,then switch to lantern to attack

[crude cloak]

Do you do Rita's WA when QTEing

[gentle pike]

i dont have her weapon, just qteing is enough to activate buffs iirc

[crude cloak]

Ah, ye, you're right

Overall the rot is right then

[gentle pike]

then i just gotta be faster when playing igs

i just need like 40 more points to be good,thats not so hard right

[hearty bane]

how to spam ME's evade WA as fast as this guy?
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HmofByEay/

i always get a delay between evade WA

[dusky mantle]

Hope i survive

One run then sleep

EZ

[hearty bane]

any help?

[spiral raven]

other than pressing quicker, make sure you get the basic off hle after wa ult

for the tf, that extra tf will help

ideally u do it like the vid, where u get the basic off while swapping basically

[hearty bane]

the hle tf i alr know

the thing is that his ME's evade WA is so seamless

no matter what and how i try, after doing 1 evade WA i always get a delay

[spiral raven]

are u holding arrow keys

[hearty bane]

i tried both w/ and w/o

[spiral raven]

well there really isnt any special tricks to make it go faster

try go to gaming cafe or something for better pc or idk

[boreal eagle]

what horb atks can gather the robots at the end phase of this boss?

wax2 or half the charge atk

[spiral raven]

charge

wax2 too slow no

maybe u can make it work idk ur rot

[weak oracle]

is this optimal for current abyss? or swap vita for something else?

[quasi pier]

that's the team yes

[plucky gust]

help. . . im missing 2. . .

[plucky gust]

nevermind. found it.

[gentle pike]

I'm on MA, I'll fight BKE

Paws-sushang-

Who for last slot? A rank helia, a rank coralie or silverwing?

These r the only part 2 valks I have left

I used lantern vita Rita against img guy

I used hohe jk Pardo against hellmaru

[craggy plume]

VBm since none of your other options have Symbiosis

[gentle pike]

Tysm

[open bone]

Can try PS lead with SW paws support

Probably ur best option

Failing that paws PS vbm

[gentle pike]

i did it alr lol

lantern 44k
paws 39k
hohe 30k

i may retry

[open bone]

Well you can probably still change it but maybe use SW for last boss then

And get the 946 0sec

[gentle pike]

r these scores good? %4 iirc

[open bone]

Usually anyone with an established account can get 2% no problem

But Marut is tough if you don’t have Rita

[gentle pike]

i do but shes so gearless

level 35 stigmata unleveled talents azure storm

[open bone]

Even then you want her in the team

[gentle pike]

yea i used lantern-vita-rita

[open bone]

Because she can execute the start and transition phase

[gentle pike]

lantern is so good bruh

[open bone]

Maybe the best you can do then

44k is pretty low tho

Even PS dps with no Rita can get 47k

Could take a look at this run maybe, try running PS Rita Vita

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV14e2SBKEvH

And use inspiration from it

[gentle pike]

oh goddam

[open bone]

Or SW over vita

30k for Hellmaru is also pretty low

If you hadn’t locked any Valkyries it would be an easy 31946

But now that you’ve locked some people to the wrong bosses that’s gonna be harder

Who do you have on it rn?

[magic torrent]

hi guys i was just wondering, silly question but could i replay the part 1 stories full with dialogue and how ? as someone who played till part 2
whenever i join a node it just shows me the fighting bit and not the dialogue and story💔💔💔i wanna replay

[digital sky]

What should I use on the bosses?
Im guessing probably like trio on the 1st one? Or hoo main dps

And lv with somebodysombody for bke?

or is a pt1 valk somehow better

[digital sky]

All have sig...besidesfdd's..well and sena but shes not an option

[naive shoal]

which chapters? im pretty sure you can do that with earlier p1 chapters

[magic torrent]

found out chapter 1 is just not replayable….sort of broken most of the time but chapter 2 and onward is working perfectly
but i just wanted to ask if id miss out on cutscenes and all if i played everything already

[magic torrent]

can someone make me a team? with asuka ior js in general

[craggy plume]

MPS, JDS,DA:FL

[willow tapir]

Dam asuka

[magic torrent]

love her lol

[vernal terrace]

Rare Valkyrie

[lavish quartz]

Can anyone recommend me a team for memorial arena Marut and bright knight?

Nothing? 🥀

Or is this a dumb request?

[formal wigeon]

It ain't a big game, sometimes there's nobody available that can answer you (I know I can't )

[half hatch]

no absolutely not it can just take some time for people to answer
is there any reason those 4 valkyries are crossed out ?
generally you wont really be aiming for top scores with your team but
fws/sw/xdc
lv/paws/hohe
should get you all the rewards

[lavish quartz]

Those are not built, don't have their weapon

[formal wigeon]

wait how do you not have A Cora's weapon

[half hatch]

not built as in they dont have their stigmatas ?, fdd should still be a decent support without her weapon

[lavish quartz]

I have it but not upgraded, I have their stigmas but I don't have the resources to max level them

[formal wigeon]

Sena without weapon doesn't change much as support either

tho you don't have much she can support either anyways

[half hatch]

if you want to maybe give fdd a try instead of hohe in LV's teams but since both should be able to get you max rewards it doesnt matter as much

[lavish quartz]

Fdd?

[quasi pier]

dragon coralie

[lavish quartz]

I don't have her stigmatas

[half hatch]

yeah then she's out of the picture

the teams previously mentioned should do good enough

[gentle pike]

is senadina still strong on SD stages?

should i get senadinas weapon to deal with SD stages or a divine key?

i dont have any other sd chars

[half hatch]

thb not really, if she has a boss it's extremely tailored to her and she can't really perfom well outside of those ( and they never reun) , she's also missing things like critical point trigger or other special utilitiy that might be needed for some SD bosses, || the valkyrie releasing next patch also directly powercreeps her, seele is a SD lightning WS valkyrie and has critical value trigger, she basically can do everything sena can but better, the recommendation would be to get a divine key and then get seele next patch, even if you cant get seele next patch i'd probably still advice against getting sena weapon and rather complete your dkey collection ||

[gentle pike]

Weaponless she who shall not be named is better than sena with weapon?

[half hatch]

|| we can't really tell for now since she's still in beta and i'd just advice against getting a valkyrie without their weapon in general ||

[gentle pike]

Eh I may try to get her weapon too

[half hatch]

just to be sure maybe spoiler the ||lightning|| part since it's a bit obvious who we're talking about and that's still CN info,

there's also a lot more to a valkyried value than just their dmg type, things like ring type, support potential, trauma application, typing, extra utility etc. also have an impact on if a valykyrie seems valuable for you
|| atm seele looks pretty good, double critical value trigger, extra ari regen, breach support for WS and WoD and she's also sorta an pseudo QUA dps having qua collapse on some of her abilities and also gaining a dmg bonus against qua enemies that make her at least a decent option for RL ||

[gentle pike]

She who shall not be named has lots of things I can use yeah, I may pick her up. I should start saving my crystals anyway

[gentle pike]

is sirin ascendant T + michealangelo MB good for senti?

[hearty yacht]

looking for suggestions on ma

thinking of
trio
ps fdd lv
hohe mps dsa

no rs or me

[quasi pier]

where's dirac mb

[gentle pike]

forced to farm a g3 instead of g2 😢 got it boss

[gentle pike]

man stigmata sure is expensive

[knotty sapphire]

what's the elysian realm lineup for silverwing n-ex?

[formal wigeon]

nope cause her attacks during ult don't trigger Michelangelo (and it's already not a great 2p at baseline)

[mortal jetty]

Or you can also get a warm blanket and sleep or uninstall the game again

[hearty yacht]

hey at least I had a really good run on bke

went to check the lower scores on marut

[mortal jetty]

960?

[hearty yacht]

doable

but im settling on a 946 for now

[mortal jetty]

Go bald

[hearty yacht]

what's the point

[mortal jetty]

We don't want slacker prof

Mods pls bean him

[hearty yacht]

but im not slaccer

[mortal jetty]

Profs should be higher..top 59 atleast

No excuses

[hearty yacht]

WDYM I LEGIT DONT EVEN HAVE RANKS OR AOPS LOL

[mortal jetty]

Only excuse

[hearty yacht]

https://giphy.com/gifs/areyoudumb-carmeme-memecar-PuQqsiILOPTYPswcu7

[mortal jetty]

[spiral raven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1d9dDBCEWn/?spm_id_from=333.1391.0.0
ds

[mortal jetty]

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087728190539169892/1487965369959452682/nqQ2x-j0xoXnT1kS8c-96.gif

[mortal jetty]

U still need to bald my MA tho

[spiral raven]

how come

[mortal jetty]

You too pro

[spiral raven]

this week is free

[mortal jetty]

Pls help small f2p

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087728190539169892/1502147713565855744/5d6034a85edf8db10e3bda7c4f23dd54564e7495.gif

[spiral raven]

prof slack smh

[mortal jetty]

Marut too hard..need pro hands

[spiral raven]

just get a pc ez

[mortal jetty]

So mean

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1108795084012523591/1477922411080060941/RDT_20260302_0155192387571106524222924.gif

[hearty yacht]

wadafaq

you were just shitting on me for not balding

[mortal jetty]

Just read my name

I am retired what do u expect

Retired + hard washed

[hearty yacht]

you've been retired for 2 years now

[mortal jetty]

4* years

[hearty yacht]

gg

[mortal jetty]

[hearty yacht]

not my prof geezer

[mortal jetty]

U are not retired yet...that is why u need to bald ur life like theafkwhale

[spiral raven]

i barely play the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087728190539169892/1502147713565855744/5d6034a85edf8db10e3bda7c4f23dd54564e7495.gif

[mortal jetty]

Pro said barely but is malding days and nights

[spiral raven]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HCYyVg4WEAATrk8.gif

[mortal jetty]

I should be the one who say this

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312747378855510098/1447199668202115182/c16b97e0093750a7.gif

[hearty yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-gif-5632385232748606827

[mortal jetty]

U better go and get ur 960 pls... let the retired peeps speak

[hearty yacht]

crazy that im taking shit from you

[mortal jetty]

Time to start my hibernation again

[hearty yacht]

see you next abyss cycle

[mortal jetty]

U will not see me because I will not even play

[hearty yacht]

you forget im still climbing back from agony

im gonna see you in my agony brackets

[cunning gull]

may i interfere to ask for egg dist

[hearty yacht]

+1 from last

453 iirc

[cunning gull]

[hearty yacht]

Unfortunately wont be able to supply you with agony 2 dist anymore

[cunning gull]

just so u would know even i need rl dists sometimes so

[hearty yacht]

Wadafaq

[cunning gull]

redlul dead

[hearty yacht]

Ye but I think agony 2 just keeps going +1

Not too sure

[cunning gull]

unfortunatly its very unreliable to tell

eggony and sinful like to bounce very randomly

[naive shoal]

sorry late reply but I'm pretty sure u can check ur cg collection and see if ur missing any cgs

[last hull]

I unfortunately don't have too many P2 valk options, so for stuff like SS MA Im forced to use a lot of old P1 stuff. Even with this in mind though, is it worth going out of my way to craft 3rd Sacred Relic copies to purchase BD from the exchange shop? (Given how it was niche even in the end of P1)

P2 valks

I also considered Kikaku but DP was already incredibly niche even when I first started playing so I doubt that's the greatest use of my Ether Fuel

BD tho Im much more on the fence though cause it does have more universal use for SS MA

[spiral raven]

if ur luck isnt too terrible, ur almost certainly going to be having excess ether fuel

in which case do whatever you want with it

u should just think of which char u most likely to use in what team then just craft base on that

[last hull]

Funny enough Im on a serious fuel shortage rn lmao

I was going to craft 3rd Relic anyways cause I was planning to get MKP, Im just a little unsure in what to do after

[cunning gull]

absolutely not worth if you're poor on either fuel tbh
especially since you might need to get a prism stig from foundry if you don't get it as u pull
i say recover your ether fuel first then wait

[last hull]

If worst comes to worst I have 200 G3 to scrap

But I dont wanna go there just yet

[cunning gull]

yeah only do when necessary

yeah 200 3g isn't enough even lmao

[last hull]

Isn’t that 600?

[cunning gull]

yeah and one prism stig is exactly 600

i would say have more just incase

[last hull]

I highly doubt Im going to need to craft more than one stig tbh given the FOCA rates

[cunning gull]

i would be on the safe side anyways, they've starting to give out p2 units and who knows if one is pretty notable for you to grab
also patch with valk + dk

as you say youre poor on resources anyways so now is a good time to refill and then decide later if you need to use the resources for the new stuff or get the old stuff u want

[last hull]

I guess

[cunning gull]

hows ur si ta sns team for this tho?

blood dance does have universal use but most ss ma i have seem are mostly p2 stuff or the p1 physical team or hoo dps

idk about kikaku and dp though

[spiral raven]

then that team should like cover everything

[last hull]

MKP’s the only thing Im missing

(I intend to max that cross eventually but since Im tight on pri mats rn Im holding off ||till after Seele||)

[last hull]

It covers a decent amount of stuff but not everything

[cunning gull]

oh okay its a good consideration then
but yeah wait until you recover mats first

[last hull]

Alright

[spiral raven]

like sampo that's it, but u can use hoo

its basically everything

[gentle pike]

hi

[digital sky]

Who should I use for MA?

SS MA is thelema hoh sena...

[open bone]

Try trio for Marut and Badum paws FDD for BKE?

Marut is gonna suck because no ME or PS

And no hle either

[digital sky]

Oh

For some reason lv isnt there

Whoops

Yeah i have lv dkey aswell

[open bone]

Oh then you can also try paws dps for Marut

I don’t know whether that or trio is better

They’re both pretty cope

[digital sky]

So. Considering lv dkey

What do i use

[open bone]

Can try:
Badum Luna FDD on BKE
Trio on Marut

Or

Badum Luna Mei? on BKE
Paws FDD Horb on Marut

If your trio isn’t cutting it

Either way Marut is probably going to suck but such is life

[lime grail]

Can't they do lv hrb +1 on bk

[open bone]

Could but then no horb for Marut

And we’re trying to make paws function there

Despite everything

[lime grail]

Do mei

[open bone]

Hmm maybe

[lime grail]

It's gonna be bad either way just have fun

[digital sky]

My trio is uh
12/12
S0 HoTr...
SS HoO
S0 HoFi

[open bone]

Try it and try paws and see which scores least horribly

Something around 400 maybe possible?

[digital sky]

Badum dps over lv dps?

[open bone]

Both work

[digital sky]

I do have ssteri

[open bone]

Luna needs horb ofc

Badum with Luna and ss Teri can 960

[digital sky]

Oh yeah doesnt hotr have murder uh
The 3 img cores

[digital sky]

Just badum and lv?

[open bone]

Ideally FDD or SW third

[digital sky]

No sw

I got sparkle wep.!

[open bone]

I don’t know how other loa supps do but probably at most -1 or 2s

[digital sky]

Also my fdd is wepless (and sena but she isnt relevant to this)

[digital sky]

O

[open bone]

Here’s the ref https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1mMdSBxEs4

My advise is try paws and try trio on trial mode in Marut

See what you need to salvage them

And then work on BKE with whatever is left

[digital sky]

960 is one of the highest scores u can get in MA right?

[open bone]

973 is technically possible on this boss

But yes

[digital sky]

Okay next week is horrible. Great

[vernal terrace]

Trio mode

[digital sky]

Oh

[digital sky]

What about xdc?

Cuz the breach

[open bone]

I haven’t seen a 960 ref for it but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

The breach doesn’t matter

BKE is paper

[digital sky]

O

[open bone]

You’re just trying not to lose any time

[digital sky]

Why fdd prefered then?

[open bone]

TF lines up

[digital sky]

Oh

...ykw that makes sense

[open bone]

Hence why I’m not sure how other LoA works

All of em will function but I haven’t seen the refs

So they might or might not lose a lil time

Hard to say

[digital sky]

Oh

[delicate smelt]

there is a freaky voice telling me to get youyun

[delicate smelt]

damn

[jade zephyr]

Idk what Im doing

[open bone]

Is there meant to be a video here

[jade zephyr]

Yes does it not show up

[vernal terrace]

It does for me

[open bone]

I get audio but no video

[craggy plume]

Try to do the first SO earlier, you are losing a lot of time due to waiting for it to come back

[open bone]

But it seems like that’s just me then

[craggy plume]

Can try to look at Hieu Le ref even if it is with FL

[hearty yacht]

Try reloading discord

[last hull]

In the fight opening you can cast HLE WA way earlier

I would recommend doing a short SO in P1 cause ur just sitting awkwardly after the SO in ur recording finishes in P2

Like right after combo atk

This should allow your second SO to kill P2 much more cleanly

Instead of sitting awkwardly and then using 2nd SO for a mega overkill

[jade zephyr]

I got 757 now from trying to adjust to hieu le's

i think my dmg is just too low

[crude wedge]

What do i buy from supply shop

[dusky mantle]

What to use if no rita? Trio or rs?

[cunning gull]

show the part 2 units you own and the part 1 units with stellar keys

[dusky mantle]

Usually stamps. But it depends on accnt

[cunning gull]

pretty much
can try rs first

[dusky mantle]

Oof

[arctic remnant]

One thing i never paid attention to but...
Am i supposed to apply buffs before entering astral ring?

[half hatch]

not really basically all p2 buffs refresh upon entering SO

[arctic remnant]

okay okay

[jade zephyr]

is sw new best 3rd for badum? over fdd
(asking cuz swarm in a couple weeks)

[mortal jetty]

???

[jade zephyr]

?

[mortal jetty]

Badum or fdd are not sw 3 third best if its what u are asking

[lapis raven]

hes asking for fws whos bis team

[jade zephyr]

no 😭

Hahahah yes

[lapis raven]

shd be fws xqc sw

trio omg

kianawoah

[vernal terrace]

New trio

[naive shoal]

damn didnt know the steamer is a valk

[jade zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-jolly-happy-rainbow-and-sunshine-gif-11154688262827409004

trio stocks up

[lapis raven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1VvRXBrEbh
s0+1 sss teri

[jade zephyr]

the evil dragon has finally been defeated..

[quaint saffron]

It's Rita's abyss, agane.
any units i can use just to clear?
my Songque can't clear it- welp-
and the f-ing boss just staggers my songque-
i have no dmg, and i am staggered...

[jade zephyr]

do you have durandal?

[quaint saffron]

mini dudu?
yep.

what teammates for mini dudu?

i am trying mini dudu-vita-songque, for the buff atleast for shadow trait.

[rigid cedar]

any other valks?

the shadow buff means nothing if newer valks give better buffs overall

[half hatch]

Replace one of them with someone else the buff caps at 30%

[quaint saffron]

here's my list of shadow stuff.

here's my heavenly shift valks.

[rigid cedar]

all 4/4?

[quaint saffron]

yuh. ~

[rigid cedar]

okay then fdd is a straight upgrade for dudu

[quaint saffron]

so, dudu-drag coralie- who's last slot?

[rigid cedar]

sparkle

you can get more ults off on RS thanks to her

[quaint saffron]

ayt- lemme try.
if i can't execute sparkle well, who's the 2nd to use?

[rigid cedar]

if you can't, would replace her with any other viable option. start with newest to oldest

[half hatch]

prob PS, her buffs are really good while not dealing a lot of dmg herself which is favorable for dudu since she's the one piercing the core

[quaint saffron]

then, it's new Helia, if newest to oldest. XD
the pic i sent is based on release.

[rigid cedar]

personal dmg of the support might also make a difference

helia is good for that while slightly worse off on the buffs

her stellar shift is fast and has a nice finisher with no time loss

[quaint saffron]

ayt, lemme try those suggestion.
so, i wouldn't bring any shadow stuffs then?
completely abandon the buff from it?

[half hatch]

well RS herself already provides 15% of the buff

[rigid cedar]

you're not completely abandoning it with rs lead

[quaint saffron]

ahh- XD forgor-

[rigid cedar]

either way, you have really good cope options here

just from owning rs

can't help but be jealous, meanwhile i own ME but no RS

[quaint saffron]

does vita provide same stuff with drag coralie?

[rigid cedar]

both provide breach, fdd provides more

and is faster

[quaint saffron]

ahh, okayge- no vita then-

[rigid cedar]

yeah

[half hatch]

her breach would convert into a dmg buff, depends on the boss if that's usefull you can always give it a go and see how it works

doubt that it'll outperform but

[rigid cedar]

to be fair, vita has more personal dmg on her stellar shift, which was and still is useful in other places

like in that flux sd mob abyss

[quaint saffron]

hmm, wait, i will try vita first- XD
vita qte off, yeah?

[rigid cedar]

no, its LoA

qte on on all

[quaint saffron]

ahh- aight-

[half hatch]

no you're losing out on heavenly shifts

[rigid cedar]

if you do vita, do the opener on her

and time the mech wa so the final hit hits the mobs

you should be able to ult instantly

CA is not needed, waste of time

[quaint saffron]

aight- lemme try-

[rigid cedar]

you've got time, take it

[quaint saffron]

uhh, AoP?
Sera is my best option?
for physical dmg stuff? i usually play sera alongside small dudu-

[rigid cedar]

sera s is a viable option, you compensate slightly less buffs with 18% crit damage and more initial ARI compared to SSS ds

also elemental buffs are worse off but RS dmg matters most

[quaint saffron]

got 629 with vita. kek-
that's much better than my songque like 400 score, and it is still on the last IMG phase. 😆

[lapis raven]

hella mobs tho, probs better with fws

[quaint saffron]

IDK how i did the 629 man- HAHAH-
i can't replicate it agane- welp- XD

[edgy hamlet]

How long is the Youyun event and is it time gated?

[quasi pier]

it's time and resource gated

it'll take you like a week

[edgy hamlet]

Ok I start next week surely

[quasi pier]

start it now, it's an afk event where you gain resources overtime

[edgy hamlet]

Ohh it's one of those events

ok I'll do that

[prisma olive]

Need help with allocating valks in MA

Here's what I do not own

[steady osprey]

i guess u can RS the img pig

thelema the dawg, hohe/hofs p1 work for initial SP

lv bke

[craggy plume]

RS on MA pig is definitely an experience with how much it hates switching in phase 2, but everything else then ME is pretty horrible there.

[steady osprey]

no agent rita, no kiana dk

[craggy plume]

Yes, not disputing your recommendation just saying that the setup is still very rough.

[steady osprey]

yeah i also hate the dash atk which make it untargetable

[chilly wind]

SW HoFi HoRb is viable right? I'm getting better score in this abyss with SW HoFi Senadina, am I doing my rotation wrong or what?

Senadina just contributes so much dmg on her own it overshadows HoRb's "better buffs"

[primal trail]

is yy better than seraop?

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[normal cloak]

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[open bone]

Wait wtf

Sorry ping from extreme backscroll fsr

[open bone]

Meant to quote from here, same deal

PS Badum/Rs FDD on Marut
Luna Horb +1 or Badum Luna SW on BKE
Thelema for Hellmaru

Is easiest prolly

[open bone]

I mean neither of those is very good

It’s HSS weather not domain resonance

But yes Sena gives you 15% independant weather buff because she has the HSS tag

And horb doesn’t

Do you have any WoD dps?

[chilly wind]

I used trio anyway for the boss to get a decent score, I was just wondering why on these teams I have like 100 score difference in senadina's favour when HoRb should be better

[chilly wind]

Nah

[open bone]

It’s the weather buff. 15% undiluted for HSS tag from Senadina

Horb doesn’t have the tag

[chilly wind]

Oh okay, I didn't know it would make such a big difference

[uneven shard]

heyy! pulling question — i am considering either SW DLC or HoRB DLC

Valks I have (full-gear): Senadina, Thelema, Hi Love Elf, HoHE DLC (SS-rank), Xentinel, Ba-Dum

I already have HoRB S-rank, and can get SW from War Treasury

Just not enough crystals for both DLCs

[open bone]

SW dlc should be better, it’s newer and works a little better with ||next patch valk|| and good at supporting LoA and WS instead of just WS. But its probably less painful to cope SW weathers with HLE than cope Horb weathers with Mei/Hohe so ymmv

[uneven shard]

hrmm ty

[pulsar veldt]

Im looking at the deepspace anchor event
It says to complete a main story quest for one of the gems
Is it actually a story mission?

[half hatch]

yes, if you're not at that part of the story yet and do not want to get spoiled you can wait for the other challanges to unlock

you only need 4/5 event quests for the character card

[pulsar veldt]

I see

I am hoping the other 2 shards wont be hard to get
I just got the first challenge shard 💔

[lament prairie]

how do we do bke opener now too lazy for ref

sushang fdd luna

wait do lightning affixes work

[simple yarrow]

Y'all I haven't touched this game in forever, and I just came back after not playing for like 2 years or so (mostly nostalgia and I wanted to try it again)
From 10 to 10 how cooked I am, and what should my priorities be?

[open bone]

Depends on how many crystals you got

If you can afford SW dkey you’re not in a horrific position

Since beginner accounts have a hard time getting SW

[simple yarrow]

Not enough 🗿
Like 6k I think. I remember spending everything on Thelema a few weeks before I stopped playing

[open bone]

In that case it depends on your goals. If you have competitive goals where you want to be back ASAP, you could consider a new account where you reroll for Badum or FDD. Otherwise, save up for next patch ||new Seele is super strong|| and in the mean time you can cope with Thelema dps

There’s a free Sena later this patch so you can use Thelema Sena VBM then

Until then probably like Thelema VBM JK / Kira

||and next patch you can use Seele Thelema Sena as your team||

[simple yarrow]

Ehh I don't wanna tryhard too much and I'm fond of this account, haven't played in a while but I created it like back in 2020 or so. I don't mind waiting a bit to slowly get back on track

Its given but prioritize getting free Sena then 🤔

I was gonna do that regardless but yk

[open bone]

Yeah then save, get free Sena, Thelema is a bit old but she was cracked when she was new and is still usable today

Maybe pick up her stamps from supply shop if you have stardust

Get S1 or S2

[simple yarrow]

Bro I feel old 😭

[open bone]

She still has some bosses where she’s BiS!

Well, so does Hofi but Hofi needs dkey for it

[simple yarrow]

Which I don't have 💔

[open bone]

Yeah. And it’s not worth pulling atp. But you at least have a real DPS so you can probably hover around A2 once you get Sena

[simple yarrow]

Alright so the valk from next patch whose name shall not be dropped, free Sena, and uhh Kira?

I don't remember the abbreviated names anymore (VBM/JK)

[open bone]

Kira or Jade Knight yeah, depending on boss and what gear you have

VBM is Valkyrie blast metal

A rank coralie

[simple yarrow]

Ok yeah I lowk had to check through the entire list cus I forgot her valk name 😭

[open bone]

She’s a decent generic support for P2 when you don’t have options (and still used for Vita dps as situational BiS)

[simple yarrow]

So what do I do with any content that doesn't really lend itself well to use Thelema?

Cope with outdated stuff and attempt either way?

[open bone]

Well, unless it’s a fire abyss/ranged/psy abyss you can probably still use her? For psy abyss you don’t really have any good modern options, but if they rerun say extreme flying fish you could try Senti with Brick , or if they run something ranged Kalpas HoHE dps?

Looking at schedule yeah main concerns are ranged Hephaestus, ranged Kalpas, fire Litost

Hephaestus you do HoHE, Kalpas probably still HoHE

Litost is probably cooked but maybe you can manage something with Hofi + CN or with Thelema TC making up for weather or dreamweaver or something

And then after that we don’t know but there’s only 2 more after Litost before end of patch

And then you can pick up a new release

[simple yarrow]

Alright, I think (kinda) I got it 🫡

[simple yarrow]

Also. Anybody here worth it? Since u mentioned SW dkey

[lime grail]

everyone except azure empreya since they're all on elysian realm, which is a gamemode that gives you cash money

would grab sw first tho if u can get her key

even if u can't just because out of all those chars she's the only one with possible relevance

herrscher of flamescion is also used in niche memorial arena kills but thats for high level

[simple yarrow]

And if I can't 😭

[lime grail]

.

[simple yarrow]

Sorry

[lime grail]

get her because bread tastes better than key

[open bone]

You could consider Ranks on anyone you’re using as cope I suppose

Like JK or HoHE or such

But not because you are expecting anything

Just might as well

[simple yarrow]

In that case what'd be more important? More elysian realm chars for the rewards or enhancing my placeholder options?

[open bone]

In the long run you’ll have the unlocks anyway so if ranks mean the difference between a promotion or demotion they’re more valuable, but in practice they’re not gonna be that important so you shouldn’t expect much difference between the two strategies

[obtuse lintel]

is hle qte turned off for every team?

im playing ME and have that off

just wanted to know if i should keep it off

[open bone]

Grail uses her QTE on

Otherwise yeah if you’re gonna WA ult anyway it just wastes time

[obtuse lintel]

so i should turn it on?

[spiral raven]

ur playing wod

[open bone]

ME is not grail

[obtuse lintel]

idk

[spiral raven]

u just keep it off

it just depends on wat u need the qte to do, even in grail u can have it off

but for wod there really isnt any point to having her qte on here

this cycle included

[obtuse lintel]

idk AR types

i barely remember their gamplay

[spiral raven]

literalyl just told u that ur playing wod

[obtuse lintel]

sp one, quick swap one, ghost one, etc

[spiral raven]

jsut read

[obtuse lintel]

forgot instantly

[open bone]

Read or demot to sinful

[obtuse lintel]

alr im gonna read

please dont demote

[spiral raven]

its called paying attention and actively want to learn, atp ur just making excuses to be lazy ngl

[obtuse lintel]

i just cant remember the ar types

ive tried

but always forget the names

[open bone]

There’s wheelchair of destiny, so called because it’s that slow. World of Star, because every valk in the world got that fucking tag-

[obtuse lintel]

so mean

[dusky mantle]

smh slaccing is the best part of this game

[spiral raven]

i mean yea u can slack but like its pretty hard to not know what ring type ur playing after playing the game for like at least a year or so, when p2 is all about ring types

[fossil bridge]

Keep getting impossible errands like this (Used all refresh already) what should I do? Those are the highest values I have (all 8s)

[open bone]

Over time you will get more SS ranked characters from the war treasury

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/901268521181401108/1396426366676635699/errannds1.png?ex=6a137026&is=6a121ea6&hm=63a6ac50e386ef5527914d3448c129f240cd9291c519020c4667d8ca6aa05f19&

Is the chart

As you can see only people who start at S rank can get 10+

Lightning empress and Knight Moonbeam are common picks because they’ve got a discounted fragment each week for eventual PWOs

But you can also go for someone like HoR or HoT where you can get some ranks from Elysian Realm shop

Or just any character you like and want ranks on for collection

Like if you love Himeko you might get SS vermilion knight eclipse

———

The reason errands get harder is your dorm level is going up

So as your dorm level increases you want more and more of these. Eventually you might want 2 of each category that you don’t have an elf or Aop for (and 1 for those categories)

But even having partial coverage is still helpful to be able to reset into something usable

[craggy plume]

Aren't LE and KMB more because of SS MA strats since even their discounted fragment is still more expensive then other cheaper AW options?

[fossil bridge]

Thanks a lot. I didn't think buying old valks from war treasury is any good except collecting so I've been neglecting that. Guess I need to start getting them each week now

[open bone]

the 9 AL ones give 30 PWOs and the 14 AL ones give 50. But KMB and LE can do one 50 for 12

The 14 AL ones are a slightly better deal in general thus and with discount KMB and LE are slightly cheaper still

[plucky gust]

private 😭

[crude cloak]

Ye, that means Kyo is cooking up an even better run

Or alr did, idk

[iron mesa]

@rare irisheya kyo, do you remember if Schro T always had a 6s cd at the start of the fight?

I think it must have, but it feels weird cause how fast things are these days

[dusky mantle]

could have sworn the first hit was free, but maybe im misrememberering stuff

[iron mesa]

That's why I thought but it it defo isn't now, even if it never was

[dusky mantle]

hmm

need to go back to my VD days and try to remember

[rare iris]

idr, just check out old runs kekw

[iron mesa]

yeah it does :C

Why is there so little phys gear for combo attack chars

[dusky mantle]

mandela effect wtf

[iron mesa]

pain

[dusky mantle]

public

[rare iris]

Wao I'm a retr

yeah not gonna reupload that one oversight lmao

y'know what

I will

[dusky mantle]

RS dps or trio? no ME

[spiral raven]

run both ez

[dusky mantle]

either way

[spiral raven]

give both a try and sleep

[dusky mantle]

800 impossible?

[spiral raven]

dno, prob not

[rare iris]

||https://youtu.be/VV_jNCGR0b8 for real this time||

[dusky mantle]

RS FDD JDS?

[lime grail]

i did rs fdd fws

got 737

jds takes too long

[prisma olive]

I do not have Agent Rita, who else can I use for this Abyss?

[craggy plume]

Any other IMG valk can work

Of course don't expect to outscore people with ME.

[dusky mantle]

lmao i lived

[violet horizon]

Do any refs with hohe exist for this abyss

[craggy plume]

This abyss is which one? Husk?

[violet horizon]

Yea hod minon

[craggy plume]

Not that I have seen, why are you running HoHe?

[violet horizon]

Some people r getting good scores w hohe, got no rita

Trio scores trash 610

[digital sky]

Does trio or thelema/hoh have a better chance this abyss (rita shill)

..hoh it is

[last hull]

Does anyone know how to do HH GoI triple ult

[lime grail]

hold directionals and spam evade

its hh ult1 > SO > ult2 > ult1 > switch

before so dont need to spam evade just dpad

[spiral raven]

tldr open ult is holding arrows
closing ult can spam eva and ult at the same time

[lime grail]

ye

[lapis raven]

u need chenxue

undoable for us

[dusky mantle]

I see

[steady osprey]

HH?

[crude cloak]

HoHE

[vocal wadi]

Are xantinel mei and SW bron badum s best suports?

[cunning gull]

mei yes sw not sure

[half hatch]

depends on the boss, in terms of DPS afaik yes but if badum would get another SD boss you'd probably want some critical value pop which neither of them provides. fws/xdc/sw should be BiS for the upcoming flux swarm weather though

[strong kestrel]

is youyun for bronya dk

[craggy plume]

Mainly for any valk with stellar surplus.

[strong kestrel]

👌

[sterile totem]

||since theres a spending patch for next patch which divine key should i get the only divine key i have is the brick||

[crude cloak]

||XY Sword, it doesn't appear outside of events||

[craggy plume]

||All other keys are available from reserve works so preferably get them from there.||

[drowsy frigate]

What is HoHes most important con?

[surreal citrus]

Ive reset like 3 times and i cant get HH stellar drain against this boss ;-;

[crude cloak]

SS

But SSS is nice too

SS1-SS3 are eh

[drowsy frigate]

ok thankss

[crude cloak]

They still give a non-negligible amount of ATK

[drowsy frigate]

i gotta grind her from war treasury now that i got sw sss

just wondering if it makes her any more useful

cuz shes like super niche honestly

[crude cloak]

Yeah, stopping at SS would make sense then, she's alr very niche

Ye

[steady osprey]

ss1

[crude cloak]

It's cuz the enemy has Iron Body

[crude cloak]

SS1 is not as big as it looks

[crude cloak]

i. e. HoHE can't ensnare it

Which she needs to do to be able to proc Stellar Drain

[surreal citrus]

So does HH just completely brick against this boss or do you just need to wait a few seconds

[crude cloak]

Well, you can see the duration of Iron Body below the enemy's health bar

[steady osprey]

outside of stellar drain u still have buffs applied so no big deal. unless u have gacha aop its still a 1SO fight

[surreal citrus]

i see... i wish i could just use another support but my other options are horb and luna...

[steady osprey]

just wait for the iron body to expire i guess?

[crude cloak]

Should be able to break the arms fast enough

[steady osprey]

use fdd rot first

[crude cloak]

Especially in RL

[surreal citrus]

so fdd -> HH with no stellar drain -> HLE -> back to HH after the arms are broken to get her stellar drain -> HLE normal rotation?

well i think i figured it out but i only got 751

[open bone]

Try starting with HlE wep when the red circle appears -> ult

You should be able to release ult at 1000 and still hit

Then you can qte FDD, wep ult, and then go HoHE to drain

And that way it’ll go back to red HP faster

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/y4gBpLM1tgE?si=F0tElHghX0YXJrus how much time does the going backwards tech in transition save me and what do I do in order to accomplish it?

[spiral raven]

if u mean door tech its just positioning correctly and then using mouse to click and hold the ult

saves about 3 points

[pale musk]

that doesn't feel worth it so I'm gonna wait to practice that.
So you replace Q with left click or just hold left click while holding Q?

[spiral raven]

3 points is big

i have no idea what ur q is

but if keyboard mode, then use mouse click and hold the ult

when you do this, the ult will drag you through the door

[pale musk]

for mouse input ult is Q.

https://youtu.be/oVPk--dOMhE so besides using the backward method, any tips for improving this run?

[open bone]

Hold your second ult

[pale musk]

all the way or up to a certain point?

[open bone]

All the way, you’re stopping at 100

And it’s not even speeding up your WA ult after

Because you’re still waiting on that

I’m also a little unclear why you switch out HlE at the end of phase 1

For transition sure

But going Badum earlier than that is just wasting points

Your second SO is also weird and I’m less clear what you’re trying to accomplish with it

Like you’re waiting to trigger it but not waiting for the WA ult?

[pale musk]

before transistion? I thought I'd need to refresh buffs.

[open bone]

Why would you need that

You stellar outbursted

[pale musk]

felt like after I stellar outbursted it took awhile to get the rest of the hp down.

[open bone]

Well yeah that’s how HLE dps goes

[pale musk]

I only got her last patch I'm not too experienced
So I assumed I was taking so long to get the hp down that any buffs ran out except Coralie's

[pale musk]

most of the run was cobled together from runs that use SSS Chen, but I only have S so I had to rely on using my own guesses on what best to do.
Don't know if WA refreshes in SO.

[open bone]

Yes

It does even for dreamseeker

Anyway yeah you can save some points there. And then in transition there are 2 dodges you miss, there’s the door hold for like 3 pts, and then in the SO itself… honestly given how long you wait for the second set of WAs

It might be worth just turning your QTE back on

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/1WAJcsPSFv4 it's worse but I might have messed something up.

[open bone]

It’s the 100 sp ult again

(Also your finisher was 4 pts slower but the ult is the obvious one)

After SO Wep ult you waste time doing a basics -> 100 sp -> ult and then because that does no damage you need to do an extra set of basics

Instead of just killing

And then again in part 2

100 SP ult that doesn’t pop the critical value

There’s also no need to do Badum CA in part 2

Wep ult sure for max hp reduction and damage

But qte already refreshes buffs and you already did drain

[open bone]

But this is the biggest one, everything else is a handful of points but popping the SD bar that much later is enormous

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/etHQQiXZgm0 ok it's getting better but I think I messed up in the basics also I over-do some of the damage.

Like I think in p1 qte I could have ulted sooner.

[open bone]

And also you messed up the ult through the door

The ult just missed

In P1 intro you can also try Badum ult -> hle qte -> fdd wa ult -> hle qte and that will instantly charge ult but I don’t know if losing you the basics will cost you at the end

So you’ll have to try it and see

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/CGo2S2nl83c I have SS Youyun but fws is S0 and I don’t have any syncs on Bronya dk; otherwise I have all of this. would it be viable to try this run?

[open bone]

I mean could be worth a shot. For me my SW outscores HLE by a lot but I have sync 3 and SSS yy

[last hull]

SW only better than HLE if u have SS YY?

[open bone]

SW better than HLE if you have more investment.

So you gotta compare both

[last hull]

What is more investment

AOPs? Ranks?

[open bone]

For instance for me?
SS2+3 SW, S0+1 HLE, s0+1 Badum, SSS YY
beats
S0+1 HLE, S0+1 Badum, S2+1 FDD, SS Chen

[open bone]

Aops, ranks, syncs, etc

If you’re all s0+1 no aop then HLE wins handily

But if your SW has SS Youyun and your HLE is stuck with Dreamseeker SW can start to pull ahead

[last hull]

I only got Sonk, but SW SSS. No Syncs though, I assume HLE is still the go to?

[open bone]

There’s no predice formula for when one is better than the other because it’s dependant on D and affixes and how many dkeys you have and exact team details and so forth

[last hull]

Or I guess I should test it myself and not be lazy

[open bone]

I would test both but expect HLE to win

[last hull]

Alright ty

[spiral raven]

if fdd has rank or syn, hle prob better

[mortal jetty]

Nah she still lose to sss+3 sw+sss youyoun

[spiral raven]

dno then, me rot bad ig

[mortal jetty]

Probably D diff

S0 hle with S2 fdd +2 in EU is 812 meanwhile sw sss+3 and youyoun is 816+

[spiral raven]

icic

[mortal jetty]

Time for u to join the retirement house then

[spiral raven]

true, but how to join if im not even playing

[mortal jetty]

Nothing we can do i guess