💁gameplay-help

[naive shoal]

[gentle pike]

what are homus legend proof

[steady osprey]

oh wow youyun even enable SW p1 team

[gentle pike]

i have like 8

[steady osprey]

nvm its 18792 not 21792 lmao

[steady osprey]

for time capsule event shop. u can get some 3* stigs and weapons

for collection purpose

[gentle pike]

when does it open? can i get Mei beach party there

[steady osprey]

shame they never add vermillion edge

[plucky gust]

guys?

[steady osprey]

i wont compare though. stellar key syn give ALL valk atk, while rank give ONE valk huge atk (and maybe powerspike)

its like compare vertical and horizontal vectors

[dreamy vapor]

It is definitely case by case basis depending on the valk and the weapon. but im not smort enough with the meta to know which is better for any individual case. I just know that it is a case by case basis lol

[steady osprey]

no

u can get meiM from exchange shop and bp reserve shop

[plucky gust]

question then. which comp has more chances to retent to nirvana:

• 3 SS units +1
• 3 S0 units +2

assuming SS AO

[steady osprey]

SS ofc

[plucky gust]

got it. SS it is.

[steady osprey]

take this as example. u have 3 teams. if u get +2 u will have 3 teams with S0 +2. if u get SS u will have 1 team with SS +1 and 2 teams with s0 +1

u will dominate with the weather for SS team and get dominated (maybe) when weathers for 2 other teams come up

btw the amount of xtal for 3 SS isnt equal to the amount from +1 to +2

[quaint saffron]

Hello, sorry for the ping, just a question related to the one I asked before,
As a support also for other GoI unit (like HLE), this also applies?

[steady osprey]

if luna supporting hle, its the same

qte and ult and switch

[plucky gust]

im on paladin, so i can just slow grind SS. . .

[steady osprey]

well if u are able to do so then rank is much better than +1 syn. the +1 syn only give 5atk while 1 minor rank up give like 20-30

not to mention the powerspike from skill unlock

maybe the specific weapon can get 2-3% more dmg

[quaint saffron]

thank you. ~

[plucky gust]

actually, what i did:

• skipped sena, but got some fragments(i think its from the paladin bp + the shop where you give you currency when you pull), so S0 -> S2 +1
• S0 + 1 -> SS +2 on thelema
• S0 + 1 -> S1 +2 on lantern
• S0 + 1 -> S2 +2 on songque
• complete skip eepy teri

[steady osprey]

in SO not like that but its the same with paws team. u know the drill

[lime grail]

does that mean your thel is s0 and can be ss

out of all these the only worth one is thelema

[steady osprey]

spending shop and supply shop

[plucky gust]

not really - lantern still has a boss. sena is now a filler on WoD teams, and songque is just an SD breaker now with HLE. . .

[lime grail]

yea but they can do all that at s0

[plucky gust]

true, but when your target floor is nirvana, you want to get every advantage you can get with your peasant spending.

[steady osprey]

if paladin is peasant spending

[lime grail]

sena's support capabilities only increase at sss, songque wasn't even used on her own boss unless ss0, and fire tank appears once a life time

s0 to s1 lantern wont change a thing

[steady osprey]

he is able to invest and asking which direction is better

[lime grail]

yea and i said thelema is best

[plucky gust]

with paladin, this is pretty much automatic. . . im just wondering on how to use my paladin boss.

[steady osprey]

and his thel is already ss

[lime grail]

is she

[plucky gust]

thelema is already SS +2. . .

[lime grail]

so the choice is between lantern and songque

[plucky gust]

not really. im just showing what i did so that ppl can comment on it... provide suggestions, etc...

[lime grail]

oh alr

[plucky gust]

eepy teri isn't used much anymore, right? so just S1 her naturally and wait for next patch is better?

[naive shoal]

[plucky gust]

hmmm, SS youyun means you don't need to get SS seraphium, no?

[digital sky]

Whos the best non sw option for this next boss

Vita or HoH or thelema or...somebody else

[vernal terrace]

PS or PAWS

[digital sky]

I was definitely off

[digital sky]

Paws XDC LV?

[vernal terrace]

Could do HLE with PS/PAWS support
Or that

[digital sky]

No hle

Or ps

[vernal terrace]

Guess you don't have much choice then

[digital sky]

HoH isnt good against ice clock?

[vernal terrace]

She probably is
Though you'll have to use Vita for transition

[digital sky]

I got ssera aswell

So

[vernal terrace]

Do both teams and see what scores better

Whenever abyss opens-

[pale palm]

this boss is so annoying
does ranks even matter?
SSS SW with her new gear does no damage at all

[pliant ether]

can u send me ur clips of you clearing this stage?cuz I'm really struggling, been trying for over 10 times alrdy

[pliant ether]

so i need 3 of the recommended character ,well done mihoyo

[dim patrol]

hope it help you?

[spiral raven]

for the imaginary surge bit, it seems better to not bother with doing all reso, and just smacking the boss

try something like here for the final ring, not sure watever ur using tho
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GSQ7BeE5a/?spm_id_from=333.1391.0.0&vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

[digital sky]

Hows Teri Sparkle Thelema in this day and age?

[orchid bay]

wth am i gonna do

i just kira'd it lol
some weird getting hit by the needles

[iron arch]

Help I think I just brick my progress in Event project sea of data thesis:

I accidentally use my precious Data core to upgrade mining instead upgrading grappling hook or lowering threat, now I cannot continue, how to gain more data core now?

[quasi pier]

play tomorrow

[iron arch]

You mean the daily mining? There is data core there but it behind a rock that need 30 pull grip while I have only 20, do the position I have not yet collect refresh everyday?

[quasi pier]

is there a potion that increases the pull grip by 10 in the mining minigame?

[iron arch]

Not in the daily mining that has data core item in it 🤔 there are two mining type the one with data core is the unlimited time one, that one has no potion

[craggy plume]

Have you upgraded the pull strength to the maximum currently available?

[quasi pier]

also I'm not sure if you're far enough, but you can also get data cores from prospecting

[boreal eagle]

where tf i get these green cubes

im f locked and can't get bronya skin

[oblique monolith]

daily through mining

gotta go slow

[boreal eagle]

I can't

move these stupid rocks

is impossible i see no other sources

[craggy plume]

Have you upgraded the strength in the research center?

[oblique monolith]

go unlock the bomb

and also your hook strength

[boreal eagle]

ah yes i didn't saw that done ima saved thx

[bold geyser]

is paws helia worth getting?

[quartz plinth]

Hi, I'm trying to do the "Timely: An Eve's Miracle" event quests right now and I completed the 44 story stages, but I still need to get more yearly coins somehow. Does anyone know how I can do this?

[craggy plume]

Not worth spending pulls on.

[bold geyser]

damn💔

[elfin parrot]

go to the event front page daily https://i.imgur.com/wTNH8Nk.png

[quartz plinth]

got it, thanks

[surreal citrus]

Could someone make a reference for this team?

I also have Teri and Chenxue AOP if those are better

[shell quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4xq_xBNKlk saw this and found it funny it's p1 team

[naive shoal]

p1 team revival lately in abyss

[thorn spire]

Literally u dont, u have burst huge damage b4 black hp run out

[thorn spire]

Discord dont let me lmao
The vid too large

[elfin parrot]

upload to streamable or youtube or other similar video hosting sites

or you can link them examples from other people

[thorn spire]

[vernal terrace]

During certain parts i can't even see the hp bar

[quasi pier]

dying graphics card ref

[thorn spire]

I’m return player this is only team i have

[lime grail]

with the exception of that vita wep thats literally the team for this cycle

[pliant ether]

holy compress

[elfin parrot]

ty for trying that way anyway lol. but in the future maybe consider what i suggested earlier

[thorn spire]

yeah but many ppl already did lmao

[elfin parrot]

anyway the idea of the black hp bars (coagulation) is that they greatly reduce the damage you dealt to the enemy.

The main way to get through them is with HP loss mechanics. SW's hold attack (mirage impact) as well as her first and last resonance hits (deconstruction field) has this https://i.imgur.com/0UrdpL6.png https://i.imgur.com/E3O46dq.png.

• Shigure Kira also has this but this is something to only really consider if you have her well built in lower tiers. (a few other valks has this too but none are as notable for this fight)

for clock husk in particular, whittling down the hitcount hands around the boss will also reduce the coag hp by a fixed amount. https://i.imgur.com/KWe8E8i.png

Otherwise you can brute through it (very slow).

Can also consider a mix of these three methods.

[elfin parrot]

yeah that's why i also said earlier you can just link something (or point in this particular case)

Although be mindful of your @'s. Now Ken is going to get a ping from you and he might think your response is addressing him when it's not.
https://i.imgur.com/cc9lPQT.png

[vernal terrace]

Did not know SW had HP loss
Just thought she was just doing enough DMG to actually DMG the black hp bar

[elfin parrot]

the only reason why i know this is because i had to read it earlier because i was wondering if there was any buff/debuff from the weapon skill on the new weapon

[vernal terrace]

[sweet notch]

my brain is so fried

[elfin parrot]

old weapon had a huge 40% ice buff from casting weapon or ult

[vernal terrace]

Someone mentioned HoRb had it but I read her skills and she doesn't have HP loss from what I'm aware of

[sweet notch]

i already get past the black hp bar its just the next phase that doesnt move - im confused if im just not getting rid of the black hp fast enough or smthn

[elfin parrot]

black hp reduces damage you do

hp loss ignores this reduction. Certain attacks has hp loss.

• SW's hold attack
• SW's 1st and 6th resonance attacks
• Shigure Kira hold attack

the boss has hitcount shields around it. Reducing the hitcount removes some of the black hp

or you can just do regular damage to slowly get out of it.

Maybe use a mix of all of these

oh uh. It doesn't move? Do you mean late in phase 2 where it goes to the center to do spin attacks?

the only thing special going on at the end is that the boss is taking more damage. Do your biggest attacks there

[sweet notch]

like its 2nd health bars AFTER the black hp bar is down

nothing i do reduces its health

[elfin parrot]

i'm not seeing anything happening here. https://youtu.be/QTAOQybuBtk?t=97

my best guess is you let the boss survive in early p2 too long and it summoned a clone of itself that gets reduced by hitcount?

[vernal terrace]

568

[elfin parrot]

let me boot back up the game to see

[sweet notch]

i dont see a clone, tho once i did see it

[elfin parrot]

do you have a recording?

[sweet notch]

but the rest of the time i knock out the black hp, it goes to 2nd phase and i just - cant hit it

nah but i can make one rq

[elfin parrot]

actually this might be a known issue. try restarting your game #👶beginner-help message

you might also need to act faster so the way the phase is resolving isn't occurring at the same time you're manually ending it? not sure

[vernal terrace]

Ah yeah I've seen videos of people showing he becomes immune to DMG after transition

[elfin parrot]

maybe you can dig those up and link them so we can confirm if it's the same thing

[elfin parrot]

lmao what the heck

that's not even the boss getting stuck in some inbetween state

[vernal terrace]

I don't see any DMG ticks on him

[elfin parrot]

yeah the p2 hp isn't going down either

anyway if it's anything like that, it's definitely a bug and not a normal outcome. I can only say to restart the fight and/or game and try again. Also review strategies on how to get through it faster if you haven't yet (in case the issue is really taking too long) @sweet notch

[vernal terrace]

Throughout the runs I've been doing I haven't ran into it yet

[thorn spire]

ppl blame player dont read but it obviously bug

[elfin parrot]

yeah it's not good to be presumptious. But we're here to discuss and explore any issues

[vernal terrace]

Yeah probably a bug
Here's a second video

[thorn spire]

#💁gameplay-help message

check it out

[sweet notch]

ill keep trying, but ill send a video i still cant get it

[elfin parrot]

try jumping back to some of the past conversations we're linking and seeing what solutions may have been for them too

[spiral raven]

its weird that when i tried searching it on bilibili or other cn platforms i didnt see anything about this

yet on same day had 2 ppl ran into it

[sweet notch]

want me to post the video here?

[spiral raven]

but just try break it faster or something ig

all the people that posted their version of completing it was just taking less time

but very weird

[elfin parrot]

yeah post the video if you can make one. If you're capturing your whole desktop make sure there's nothing important shown (or crop the video portion)

if you're posting it with a secondary video platform like youtube, make sure your account doesn't show your real name

it sounds obvious but i lost count of the amount of times people have done that here

[spiral raven]

if u ringing in p1 and before the last reso proc on sw you enter black hp, you can basically just jump immediately after it, then ult, you're guaranteed to line up with the needle,
so you can get a bunch of hitcounts in from the finisher of sw.

if you ring that is, most rl refs i saw just have too much dmg and don't need to bother

[sweet notch]

here you go

i dont think i did anything inherently wrong, so idk why it wont progress

[spiral raven]

why don't you try finishing the normal reso procs on sw, and then do what ur doing

it could be some weird shit with vita finishing last bit of hp or something

[sweet notch]

i have done that way as well, but the moment i get to the 2nd phase nothing does damage

i tried brute force as well with SW

without OP

[spiral raven]

so you alr tried something like this?
【减速带，大鸭鸭915官服苦痛三LZX-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/sao3wwP

[primal trail]

can someone help me with this abyss

[sweet notch]

yuh

i see everyones videos of smiting the black hp then they can dig down the 2nd hp phase, but mine just stops

ive looked up different ways ppl do it, but nothing works so far

[primal trail]

is this ss younyoun

[elfin parrot]

is there a different device you can try this on?

[spiral raven]

have you tried explicitly using silverwing combo to finish black hp bit

[sweet notch]

i can try my laggy ahh ipad, ill see if it works a miracle

[sweet notch]

yup - i used her normal holding atk and her combo

[elfin parrot]

can you try adjusting your fps too? Generally higher fps is better but it can lead to weird changes. Also change targetting settings too. There has been inexplicable importances to that in some very old niche strats.

[spiral raven]

is sss youyun probably, but won't matter here too much since its just 1 burst, and so its just dmg check

[primal trail]

i can't even melt his first life like that

[sweet notch]

I tried the ipad and same result - so big rip

[thorn spire]

black hp decreases a tiny amount per sec, just dont let it run out b4 u damge

timing issue

[sweet notch]

so ur saying im not fast enough?

[thorn spire]

yeah

[sweet notch]

thats so weird cause normal brute force with SWs normals ATK is way slower and i can get them all out

this way is hella fast so idk how im running out of time

[thorn spire]

yours ran out while u switch

[sweet notch]

ive done the no switch as well and it didnt change tho

i did no OP, with OP, no switches, the switch to Vita for faster damage

going crazy

[elfin parrot]

it sounds like a very particular timing. Rather than being faster, maybe you can opt to be slightly slower too, or find a different order of dealing the needed coag damage.

Perhaps you can take one run just to slowly but surely reduce the coag hp to its last chunk, then use some hp loss method (SW CA or boss hitcount) to ensure going past its last bit of hp

[sweet notch]

ima try that, but if it fails ill just wait till nihilus is gone so i dont gotta worry about it

[pliant ether]

This is the weirdest superstring dimension boss mechanic I've ever seen ,what is the dev tryna tell us

[elfin parrot]

it's not new

[thorn spire]

spaghetti code

[elfin parrot]

it's just an old mechanic that was brought back (it existed on wardens too)

but maybe something new of this patch with SW's dkey made it very unhappy idk.

this patch has been weird in another way too. The home screen is taking much longer to load for some people but this might not be related

[primal trail]

does someone have any runs w hle

[sweet notch]

time for some soda and lunch

[open bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7DpxfzBiA

I already know I'm a point and half short on the intro

so 762 should be possible

but is there anywhere else I can steal some score you think?

I've run out of rot improvements I can find myself

[mortal jetty]

Run looks fine to me....

What rank is sw?

Did u try a full SO with horb reso too?

https://youtu.be/GNGfw78oYpk?is=7Rbgs4D3BxwoHSQ-

Maybe u can try a transition like this? since your Seele weapon is still on CD in transition anyway

Idk if 3 SO is really optimal for u..

[crystal karma]

is there something special if i refine 4 gems?

i mean there's enough time for me to probably hard pity all 4 gems

[last hull]

Sai bro why 😭

Stop flexing on us poors

[vernal terrace]

Kek

[elfin parrot]

Do you not see the person above me in RL lmao

I got flexed on too

[elfin parrot]

I heard you get an epilogue cut scene. Cannot say firsthand yet

[dusky mantle]

What scorr does sw with bailu get rl?

[naive shoal]

is there any ref for nihilus with ds/songque?

[last hull]

That’s a whel tho

[dull monolith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/honkaiimpact3/s/JOJcJvPhu0

someone tried the slower method but still encounter the bug.

[last hull]

How’s this?

(Would yall like me to record the run?)

[gentle pike]

My team against nihilus is

Sw
Vita

Who are the best last slots? I have sushang, lantern, Rita, a rank coralie, paws I can use

[craggy plume]

Lantern is the only character with domain resonance here except for VBm so I would try her.

[gentle pike]

Is her support better than a rank coralie? Also is her support passive or do I need to use an ability

[edgy hamlet]

Is this doable for same ranks but +1 weapons only and +1D. I'm more or less -50ATK on everyone 😭

[craggy plume]

Should be she is at least a lot faster, you need to hit something on the field with her for her buffs to activate.

[gentle pike]

Oh so I don't need to use my ult or charged attack or whatever? Ty

Also does vita activate all her buffs upon summoning her mecha

[craggy plume]

Vita must ult for buffs

[gentle pike]

As in summoning mecha, or the attack?

[craggy plume]

Charged attack is for stellar drain.

The attack

[gentle pike]

Tysm I didn't know lol

🙏🏻🙏🏻

Ur da goat

I wanna get 3700 points this time at least

I'm at 3650 something

I won't waste time with lantern on field too much, and I'll swap out of vita after ulting

[craggy plume]

LP wants to hit her Charged Attack in the transition phase to trigger HP loss on the boss and kill a segment.

[rough haven]

Can I get Matchmaking in Realm of Battles?

[mortal jetty]

780~ maybe?

[edgy hamlet]

ok thank you. I think Ill keep trying with the Mei and Bita team for now

[mortal jetty]

Vita should be better

[edgy hamlet]

How do you immediately evade with SW when the black health bar is up? I see everyone doing it frame 1 but I have to wait a bit

[edgy hamlet]

She's not S2 lol

[mortal jetty]

Jump +evade and pray that u get it

[mortal jetty]

S0 vita> mei

My vita is S0

She did more damage than mei when I tried

[edgy hamlet]

I'll be happy if I can get 770

[mortal jetty]

[edgy hamlet]

I havent got a score yet

[mortal jetty]

Only?

Sw sss?

[edgy hamlet]

Ye

[mortal jetty]

Aop sss?

770 should be doable i think

[edgy hamlet]

Found a 773 ref but they are doing weird stuff in P2 that Im trying to understand.

D568

[mortal jetty]

"Weird stuff"

Link the ref pls

[edgy hamlet]

Idk lmao

[edgy hamlet]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KrQtBSEP9

Oh wait nvm I see why they delayed SO

[mortal jetty]

I don't see any weird stuff tbh

U could also try horb instead of mei

[edgy hamlet]

What's the combo at the very end with SW?

[edgy hamlet]

SS1+1 HoRb tho

[mortal jetty]

Qte spam basic +weapon activ spam basic +ult i think

[mortal jetty]

U can still try to cook

We never know

[edgy hamlet]

Ok so it's just the basic spams in between

[mortal jetty]

Yeah

[edgy hamlet]

I may try it after I get one successful run with this team first lol

[mortal jetty]

Yeah dw

[edgy hamlet]

Struggling to get that frame 1 evade lol

[mortal jetty]

My youyoun is only ss otherwise i would try

[mortal jetty]

U will get it after some tries ..dw

[edgy hamlet]

822 with SS YY??

[mortal jetty]

[edgy hamlet]

[vernal terrace]

[edgy hamlet]

Whats the point of jump+evade during transition btw?

Jump just teleports her above the ground

[vernal terrace]

There are some who are still in the air so they use jump to get back down I believe

[edgy hamlet]

I'll try delaying my evade to see if it helps

I think it worked lol

[vernal terrace]

Been stuck at 777

[edgy hamlet]

Nirb?

[vernal terrace]

RL

[edgy hamlet]

ah I see

[mortal jetty]

If u are mid air u will Land on the ground

[edgy hamlet]

Yea I think I was triggering evasion in mid air first or something. It's still not consistent but it works sometimes

[vernal terrace]

[edgy hamlet]

Where SSS HoRb??

smh fake Seele fan

[vernal terrace]

Can't get
Not enough stamps

[edgy hamlet]

reserve works?

[vernal terrace]

Bought the 5 that cost 3 balls already

[vernal terrace]

Got 6 left in PWO

[edgy hamlet]

Not bad

[vernal terrace]

Then the 5 that's 24 balls

So only SS2

[edgy hamlet]

She was given away for free a few times right? I think I got one free copy of her

[vernal terrace]

Got her from starter then S1 in 8.1 spending event.

[edgy hamlet]

[vernal terrace]

778 now

[edgy hamlet]

762 now

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

770 now

😭

[mortal jetty]

Nice

[edgy hamlet]

Yeah I had one slow input during transition and p2 could be cleaned up. I think maybe 773 possible

[vernal terrace]

Slaccet

[edgy hamlet]

Hope you're ready for Huodog

[vernal terrace]

I'll probably use Mei

[edgy hamlet]

I sleep now

[vernal terrace]

Nice

[mortal jetty]

780 now go

[edgy hamlet]

I would have to try with HoRb team because this team barely had enough damage

tomorrow's problem

[mortal jetty]

Go bald

[edgy hamlet]

[vernal terrace]

That's what I'm doing

[edgy hamlet]

Is it actually higher damage than Vita and Mei?

[mortal jetty]

U can try and tell us

[vernal terrace]

Got 783 now

[mortal jetty]

U already mastered the ref ..now you can just replace horb with mei

[vernal terrace]

^

I eep for now then bald for more points later

[potent flame]

yes, please
I don't understand what's the rotation and not being able to cast QME due to the lack of Surplus at the certain point is throwing me off

[rough haven]

Help me with this.

[open bone]

Paws FDD Badum probably. Not gonna do great tho

Could change if you have any aops

[vernal terrace]

They're gonna probably have to break the clock hands to end transition

[gentle pike]

can this team clear SS on memorial arena?

BKE
Senti
griseo

senti has cosmic duality and a rank coralies set
BKE has abyss flower and 3 pc marco polo
griseo has no weapon and 3pc theresa origins

i need some bullshit to clear with rn i ran out of characters

[gentle pike]

my teams rn

[open bone]

Does senti got gear

[gentle pike]

uh she got cosmic duality + 3pc a rank coralies set to support

[open bone]

Could give https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV11t4y1w7kQ a look

Don’t know if you can directly copy

But worth a look

[gentle pike]

ty ill check in a bit,i dont need a bilibili acc right

[open bone]

Shouldn’t

[last hull]

What exactly are you struggling to do?

[potent flame]

second phase maybe.

[last hull]

Oh you mean the actual run

[potent flame]

i start it with ulting right as it starts while AR is active

then i evade and do the hitcount

the rest is...

I somehow did 714, but can't replicate it anymore

[last hull]

What's your investment and team?

And could you provide a recordig as to the actual rot

[potent flame]

same as yours, but Bronya is a bum, s3 only

[last hull]

Oh

Yeaaaaaaaa idk if ur getting much higher

[potent flame]

nevermind, gotta wait for actual RL refs and then adapt

[hollow parcel]

I'm having a problem with Husk, I have try a lot of teams but for some reason I couldn't get a single damage into the last health bar at all :|

[last hull]

This is a bug

But it only happens if you don't clear the black HP quickly enough

Ur doing HLE dps?

[hollow parcel]

well I am trying a bunch of team out

[last hull]

You could still try to record the run and I can try to point out some things

[naive shoal]

i would like to see plz i havent found any non YY ref

[last hull]

Bruh I was the one asking for help too

Now Im helping everyone else LMAO

[naive shoal]

its fine poor help poor

[last hull]

I mean like I have no objection to recording

But I just find it funny

[naive shoal]

[verbal axle]

is that really the only team with SW for that room?

[craggy plume]

You can run basically any P2 SW team for this stage.

[last hull]

They seldom update those, don't take them seriously

@naive shoal @potent flame Tbh idek if what Im doing is any good but if yall really think you would benefit from this than be my guest lol

https://youtu.be/Ri_yrLorbX0

Oh wait Hieu Le posted a ref already

[craggy plume]

That is with P1 SW team

For Dreamseeker

[naive shoal]

no its fine since its using p1 team which i dont have

finding non yy ref is already hard enough

[potent flame]

if only I had stigmatas for Kira

and SSS Bronya

[naive shoal]

shigure kira shill in the big 26

shill impact

[last hull]

Tbf I don't know if HoYo really intended for this to happen

I wouldn't be surprised if we never see this boss again cause of that

[crude cloak]

I don't think they'll care as long as Nirv isn't affected

• you won't be able to pull this off in CN RL either I assume

[last hull]

True

[plucky gust]

guys, any refs for this round? bilibili doesn't have any yet. . .

[open bone]

What team? I probably can’t help with my recording, I’m Nirvana no vita cope

But maybe someone can find something, and I’ll go looking later if not

[plucky gust]

idk. . . but i do have all valks, so yea. . . as for AO, only SS youyun and SS chenxue. . . but im pretty sure this is an SW boss, right?

please assume p2 units are S0 +1

SSS SW +1

[craggy ivy]

Just copy hieu le ref

[plucky gust]

what? hielu le uploaded? youtube hides it from me~

[craggy ivy]

https://youtu.be/ei2r4Nd-rH8

[plucky gust]

thanks. one refresh in my youtube feed and this showed up

[elfin parrot]

There are definitely refs on bili

I don't have the means or time to link them now though sorry

Husk clock rl and sort by latest date first

[last hull]

What the hell do I run on Tony

I have ScI but idrk how well she's gonna do at S0 compared to Sparkle

[open bone]

Simp works fine with SW supp

or SW with no simp, or paws

tony is pretty frail

[last hull]

Oh

[open bone]

can try PS LV SW, Paws Horb HLE, SW Horb HLE, Simp Horb SW, SW Horb MPS

[last hull]

That's a relief

[open bone]

depending on who you have and what aops

[last hull]

How do I have

Like near none of em

[open bone]

Who do you got

show valks

[last hull]

ScI SW and uuuhhhhhhh

Vita? But she's way too slow

No HRB LV PS

[open bone]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV17zQ7B3EFa is with horb over vita

but can steal ideas

[steady osprey]

do u really expect to do well in Ma without valks

[last hull]

I got 2% last week

[open bone]

2% is table stakes

[last hull]

It just depends on the week

[last hull]

[open bone]

anyway yeah just use Simp SW whatever third ws you got

spare

Not mei since you need her for rice cake

and not badum if you need her there

[last hull]

Nor HLE

[open bone]

You could do mei Badum FDD rice cake, Simp SW HLE on tony say

should only be a lil below cap

[last hull]

No FDD

[open bone]

okay just show valk list

[last hull]

Unless it would be better to sacrifice Rice score by replacing HLE for HH

[last hull]

• SW

My account is buns

[open bone]

Id do Mei HLE badum and Simp SW Vita prolly? Could easily do lamp or sena instead over vita

should be fine

[last hull]

I'll try Sena then and see if I have enough damage

[plucky gust]

wait. i just realized. this is redlotus. i need nirvana ref though. . .

[open bone]

https://youtu.be/mUqCjZXr-wk ?

Or https://youtu.be/hE1GaAz9xpQ?is=BAvebJYG7VS0uDgs for a higher investment version

Depending on which Looks more like ur acc

[craggy ivy]

Blub

Thought was rl since nirv usually flooded with ref

[plucky gust]

sorry i just got to do retent nirvana. im usually an RL jumper, but yea.

i got SS youyun and i gotta get some ROI, right?

[lament prairie]

I'm so confused are there any bugs with transition

I managed to finish transition hella early like one time

then I fucked up p2

[vernal terrace]

I mean there's a bug where he becomes immune to DMG after transition
Idk any others though

[lament prairie]

ay what the fuck I did it again

[vernal terrace]

[lament prairie]

tbf I haven't watched multiple refs but

[vernal terrace]

[shell quail]

bugs and Husk

they go hand in hand don't they

[lament prairie]

oh I see not bug the ref I'm following is just bad or sth

just need vita ca to actually point at husk in transition

[round arch]

theres no bug, u just gtta evade and make sure vita attacks destroy the shields. Vita might miss which might lead to overly wastage of time

[vernal terrace]

What's this then

[lament prairie]

I'm trying to get to 800 with SS YY

[round arch]

vita was doing her stuff at a corner so her attacks missed, simple

[vernal terrace]

That how he becomes immune to damage in P1?

P2*

[round arch]

not immune, u need to then find his remaining shields and destroy them

[lament prairie]

do we even know cap for SS YY

oo someone has 820

I'm shit

[round arch]

evading and tfing, keeps its slow and visible so u can see it

[lament prairie]

THEY ONLY HAVE SS SW AS WELL

WHAT

[crude cloak]

Wtf

[vernal terrace]

[crude cloak]

That's Syn3, right

[lament prairie]

oh. look at their fucking vita

[crude cloak]

Now that makes sense

[lament prairie]

SSS Vita but SS YY and SW is crazy

🧱

[shell quail]

right right left for the vita movement?

on the hands

[vernal terrace]

[crude cloak]

Is that Forest by any chance

[shell quail]

Ren?

[lament prairie]

yes

[crude cloak]

Makes sense

[lament prairie]

I think they like vita

[shell quail]

:D

[round arch]

prolly -5 or 6 max from 844

[lament prairie]

I need a new ref then basically lol

the one I'm following is actually a rl ref lol

[vernal terrace]

[round arch]

unfortunately everyones got sss in billi, u just need to play SSS run and experiment urself lol

[lament prairie]

ye I don't even have the SSS run

u got one?

there's one for 826

[boreal eagle]

i need a ref for 840+

[lament prairie]

get in line

[boreal eagle]

robbie u have one ?

[lament prairie]

robbie wher 840+ ref pls

[round arch]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xuQ3BqErP/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=61da5923a50d32f24c333996f707a2e0

[lament prairie]

pls uplod

ty robbilao

9S + 9 you think I'm steve jobs?

[shell quail]

why the fuck my bili shows SW HLE Vita more

[lament prairie]

cuz ur shit at searching

whats with the fuck up compilation at the start

lol

[plucky gust]

how tf did vita proc SW QTE during the spinning clock phase?

[lament prairie]

why is this ref unwatchable

feels like a ytp

[crude cloak]

Which one

[lament prairie]

slowmo every 2 seconds

[lament prairie]

this ahahaha

[crude cloak]

Lemme see

[lament prairie]

I'll follow it anyway but holy fuck there's so much editing

[shell quail]

bruh

there's 2 acronym for SW

in bili

[crude cloak]

Not the monotone Chinese voice 😭

[shell quail]

no wonder

[lament prairie]

THERE'S VOICEOVER?

Wait let me put my headphones on lol

[crude cloak]

At the beginning at least

[lament prairie]

holy shit

[shell quail]

fml I hate bili

[lament prairie]

is this hyperion lounge pro

[crude cloak]

Anyway, it's a proper guide it looks like

[shell quail]

"LZX" "罗志祥" = Husk Nihilius

"次" “鸭” = SW

how the hell am I gonna search properly

[crude cloak]

Cry and use all 4 combinations

[shell quail]

can't

it gives me 2020 search results

lol

[crude cloak]

Or just filter by time period

[shell quail]

gets 0

[crude cloak]

Did you not forget to subtract 4 weeks

[vernal terrace]

Translation also says duck for when I look at refs for SW

[shell quail]

I'm looking at the refs and all are within April

[lament prairie]

vro

[shell quail]

so yes I did

but all are 9S + 9

[lament prairie]

I can't even do p1 I'm already short on ari

lol

[shell quail]

or 8S + 9

[crude cloak]

SSS or 🧱 ig

[shell quail]

what's EU Nirv temp

[lament prairie]

563

[round arch]

u need to delay stuffs a bit for ARI

[lament prairie]

why

[round arch]

yeah bita ss gives ari too

[lament prairie]

thats so ass

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

IM TOO F2P FOR THIS SHIT

I ONLY HAVE 1 DAWEI CARD UGHHHH

Time 2 get creative

[round arch]

dmg shouldnt be that much of an issue, ARI will be the main issue

[round arch]

yeah things which u are good at

[crude cloak]

"It's so rare, I must save it"

[lament prairie]

idk what I'm gonna use it on

probably saving myself 16k crystals on a dkey copy cuz those are stupid

[crude cloak]

But what if we get 30k cost pieces of gear in P3

[lament prairie]

glb will eos anyway

[crude cloak]

True true

[shell quail]

woah wtf is this ref

the transition involves pausing and only hitting 1 hand to kill Husk without hitting the other 2

owh HLE

bro not a single ref I can find that is SS SW

[vernal terrace]

Using only SW to end transition

[shell quail]

yuh

another ref has Vita hit all 3 hands and ends transition in 3sec

[vernal terrace]

Having to do that since no Vita

[last hull]

Idek what the proper way ur supposed to even do this fuckass transition phase without Kira is

I just used a single SW slash and then uunga buunga'd w Vita for two charged atks

[crude cloak]

There are multiple ways it looks like, but the most basic one is doing 1 SW slash, breaking one of clock hands with Vita and doing her CA (it needs to hit Clock itself, if the hand is not broken CA will target the hand)

[last hull]

Oh

Wtf why didn't I think of that

[crude cloak]

The SW slash could be the last reso proc in SO

[last hull]

Oh uh

[crude cloak]

Depends on RL/Nirv, AO and your damage

[last hull]

I don't have YY so I just save SO for P2

Surplus WA is enough to kill

[crude cloak]

Yeah, makes sense

[open bone]

I need a ref with no vita

I got YY and sync 3 but I’m stuck at 760

[crude cloak]

Syn3 is strong, huh

[open bone]

Increases HP loss

From her attack

Only reason I can survive

I think my cap is 762 unless I find a better rot but I haven’t malded it yet

[vernal terrace]

Me who's still wondering what my cap is for S3 SW

[open bone]

I can finish transition by 900 but I lose 140 points in P2 because I need 2 SO

But if I run 2 S0 I overkill the shit out of it

Suffering impact

[warped cloak]

Does Silverwing Nex work well with Firey Star Kiana and Dawn Mei with her new weapon? Returning captain who's been pulling for the og units

[open bone]

Yes. Both can support SW and both can support Badum

However SW can’t support Mei

[warped cloak]

Thanks a bunch!

[open bone]

They’re good supports for each other too, not always bis but quite solid

And often they are bis

[lament prairie]

I am so bad

[open bone]

At least you beat 800

[lament prairie]

I guess lol

I feel like I should be at 820 tho

but ari so short everywhere

[open bone]

That’s how I feel

[vernal terrace]

Lots of the refs y'all are finding are using SSS yy

[open bone]

Well yeah

SSS Youyun or demot to sinful Riley

[vernal terrace]

I'm too broke for that

[open bone]

Just needs 3 pulls

If u think abt it

[lament prairie]

honestly youyun is not my problem here its S0 vita

[open bone]

My problem is S-1 vita

[lament prairie]

kek

[vernal terrace]

Mines S3 SW and same as QT

[open bone]

Why’s ur SW only S3 anyway

I’m almost to SS2

[vernal terrace]

Didn't start buying frags for her till I saw she had a DKey

[open bone]

Sure but even then box gets you to S2

[vernal terrace]

You told me to get her from the box

[open bone]

Yes

Obviously. Who else were you gonna get HotR?

[vernal terrace]

No

I did not choose her in 8.5
Nor did I last patch

[open gull]

When should i start this chapter? Im kinda confused the order in when i should play

[crude cloak]

!faq ro

[night parcel]

Recommended Reading Order

[crude cloak]

If you have any other story-related questions you can ask them in #📚honkai-lore

[open gull]

Omg thank you so much

[crude cloak]

Wait a sec, it has 9 EX and 9 swapped around for whatever reason

That can't be right

You can also just check release dates for each chapter on the wiki

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/ei2r4Nd-rH8?si=05i2n-am-c9-ALmX shoul I swap with Vita or something if Seele is only S on my account?

[elfin parrot]

maybe just try out both ways. For RL when things are much weaker it's harder to say since HoRb can be valued for her speed despite the lesser damage compared to other supports.

I'm not too concerned about HoRb's ranks as a WS support. I'm more concerned about her weapon synergies (not saying to roll for them though).

Vita may also stand out for clearing out hitcount on the coagulation phase to mitigate how slow she is otherwise (but maybe SW herself can be an alternative answer if you're not using vita)

Whatever i'm saying is purely on paper in theory. Perhaps you can look around for other RL refs to see if any non vita but horb ones show up.

[pale musk]

Alrght, ty

[elfin parrot]

don't neglect the p1 team too if you have it. I know you're a older player so maybe you do

[pale musk]

I've seen some where they even use seele and vita instead of hle so it's a bit hard to tell. tbh this was more for curiosity since rn I'm t1 in my bracket

[elfin parrot]

yeah at that point esp for your own account i can only say to monkey test it really

and really as long as the support is domain resonance and you're not missing critical utility (e.g. hitcount/hp loss in this case but SW alone covers that technically), in many cases scores across alternative options can be quite close

some possible exceptions may be for considerably older and/or lackluster supports

[graceful stirrup]

Is there no alternative team to beat nihilus? I dont have Silverwing. No matter how fast I tried to break the pointer (Helia PA team) the boss HP is none to be seen after the pointer phase.

[dusky mantle]

First try RL. I think i can optimize it further to 800+

[knotty yew]

the current nihilus is just pure stupidity

[graceful stirrup]

IDK I somehow manage to damage him using HoH with her new gear but I cant replicate that again 🙁 so I'll take those 500 extra point and leave

[knotty yew]

making it pure invicibility is pure stupity

wtf i destroy all hands and still cant dmg wtf is these gimick

[elfin parrot]

what you guys are discussing sounds alot like some bug that is making it invulnerable in its second phase (after the coagulation hp phase).

Sadly I do not have a simple surefire solution for this but you can read the tldr here, or click further into the link for a longer past discussion of other possible ideas #👶beginner-help message

@graceful stirrup @knotty yew pinging so neither of you miss this in case this may solve the issue

[jade zephyr]

am I doing this right

idk what happened at the end with the sw qte

[crude cloak]

Could've cast XDC's finisher to refresh it

[thorn spire]

your combo kill me xD

[jade zephyr]

Oh okay

Do i need to do her combo period or just finisher

[crude cloak]

You don't need to cast her last attack if that's what you meant

[gentle pike]

my Rita and PAWS do not have their weapons. theyre supports for my sushang

what do i need to do with them to get their buffs up? how do their buffs activate

[craggy plume]

Check stigmata three piece effect

[gentle pike]

got it boss

but like

dont their base kits have anything supporting too

whats a ladys dignity 😭

hi3 putting what the terms mean challenge (impossible)

[craggy plume]

The buff which the stigmata gives

The activation requirements are on the three piece but the buffs which it gives are on the rest of the stigs.

Stellar drain conditions are under astral ring but there generally aren't other buffs which have different activation conditions then the three piece.

[gentle pike]

What 3 teams should I run this MA?

i still didnt get to it bcuz idk what to run

[cunning gull]

i don't see you having enough valks for three teams unless you have signatures on the part 1 valks
i would focus more on stuff like ps leader on one and sw leader on another

can even do lamp leader when fire weather is concerned

[gentle pike]

so uh
first team ps-paws-rita
against rice cake
second team sw-vita-lantern
against sunshade
third team- hopes and dreams

works?

[cunning gull]

yeah works

[gentle pike]

then ill run some bullshit like
bke-senti-griseo
or just throw in an a rank coralie instead of griseo. probably would be better

[cunning gull]

you can have fun in it tbh

[gentle pike]

when senadina is given out ill be free,a rank helia will become usable

[cunning gull]

technically yeah
your sena will be weapless but you can try her in ss boss shenanigans if you want
but mainly she'll be support for the likes of your sw or lamp

[gentle pike]

no lol i will get her weapon from reserve works

i got 12 balls

[cunning gull]

did you get the divine keys from there?

[gentle pike]

i seriously need a 3rd team for MA, sena-cora-helia will handle those SS plenty well

[gentle pike]

my acc isnt on the level of sweating for the +10 atk

[cunning gull]

its still worth it especially because ||next patch is a sena powercreep||

and support sena doesn't care about her weapon

[gentle pike]

idk man i dont have enough units i need more options rn,ill probably get divine keys after getting this weapon

i got like 10 dkeys or smth

[cunning gull]

i mean up to you
i just don't see any rush nor will it give that much value

you won't brick your account but getting dkeys is a journey and you'll have enough valks by then

you don't need to rush it either because everything in reserve is permanent

decent when you really feel the need to

[gentle pike]

!faq disturbance

dam there isnt one

[cunning gull]

only profs can use it

you can look it up in the search bar

[lament prairie]

dxy is really squishy you'll be fine

my chat did not load ok

[plucky gust]

guys, any updated refs for nirvana? that gives like 750+ points

• SSS SW +1
• SS HoRb +1
• S1 PL +1
• S0 XDC +1
• SS youyun

[spiral raven]

【-50键。sss+1次s0+1芽s1+1薇ss游云批发寂灭568扰冰伤lzx754（757）-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/DLbNYJY

[gentle pike]

how long should taking sw to SS take? i have 20 frags rn

also how many resources total

[craggy plume]

You can buy 10 fragments per week.

[lament prairie]

costs 80 per week

[gentle pike]

800 goddamn
should be ok tho

is it recommended selecting her from option box just for more fragments or do i just hold it in case they give anyone there a dkey

[lament prairie]

I'd probably hold onto it if possible, sw ranks actually do not make a huge difference in score

[half hatch]

To expand a bit on this It really depends on the Valkyrie, generally the more common version is that Valkyries provide buffs because of their stigmata 3pc but some like vita for example activate their buff upon using her ult in her mech form, now there're also cases like HLE who specifically has buffs for WoD implement into her kit while also having a 3pc effect that triggers upon a certain action. Occasionally Valkyries may also just have completely passive buffs like FWS who increases the team fire DMG, it's really case to case. I encourage trying to read kits yourself because they get easier to understand with time but I get that they may seem confusing at first so feel free to ask in the help channels and to ping me if you want

[gentle pike]

i have everyone besides palatinus equinox,starchasm nyx,truth,villv

[lament prairie]

yeah hold onto it they're all in ER and all a pain to get

[gentle pike]

too too long,,,

the kits r scary lol

this game is so much more complicated than star rail

doing dark magic to get high scores

[lament prairie]

I'd only open it if you have absolutely no other option, have maximised your current score via optimising rotations and are certain you need a rank to retain a bracket

[gentle pike]

btw do u still use hov even today??

[lament prairie]

yes

[gentle pike]

:o

[lament prairie]

she can 0sec kill dark jixuanyuan this week

[gentle pike]

oh yea it wasnt that hard but too mobile,moves too much

BKE solod
just dont ask how much time it took lol

[lament prairie]

she's not viable for anything though, I just have veteran privilege

I have a full guide on what she's capable of in my bio

[gentle pike]

i watched it lol..expensive,,

[lament prairie]

if you wanted a showcase

very

[half hatch]

Yeah hoyo sometimes has a tendency of jumping around in their kits so it may be pretty confusing fast, once you get used to it it sorto gets easier though like everything in this game. The game is just not very good at explaining their own kits so it's a good advantage to know what your Valkyries are capable of and with that knowledge and decent coverage you can pretty much diff most RL players

[gentle pike]

it prob takes that much to get bke competitive today too right

i wanna use her more often

she grew on me

[lament prairie]

the problem with bke is that she'd be competing with xdc and that mf has bio execute, you can't compete

[gentle pike]

also shes like 6 years old 😭

ver 3.7 (? iirc,good old times)

no wait 3.5 i think 3.7 was AE

[lament prairie]

but for mobbing as long as you have abyss flower the stig options are quite flexible and they're much easier to farm than HoV stuff

I pulled bke on release she was completely useless

I didn't pull gear back then I didn't know what I was doing

[gentle pike]

i have abyss flower
i wanna use her time to time for fun,what stigs can i use?

i have

marco polo on her rn in 2026

is it just elysia set

[lament prairie]

marco tm attila b will work the bigger issue is your supports

[gentle pike]

oh damn fr??

[lament prairie]

no she uses dante tm ely b I think

[lament prairie]

well not in high end abyss

I'm talking like agony 3 mobbing

xd

[gentle pike]

i have senti with cosmic duality + 3pc cora set

and im farming terminal aide rn,using griseo for the time being with 3pc theresa origins

[gentle pike]

tysm i equipped attila

[lament prairie]

hmm does cora set work on senti

[gentle pike]

most of it does
marisa site told me

[lament prairie]

oh god marisa site

[gentle pike]

like %75 of the supportive abilities does

[gentle pike]

uh is smth wrong with it

[lament prairie]

it can be misleading sometimes so we don't recommend it but if its just flat explanations it should be fine

just don't use it to make pulling/investment decisions

[gentle pike]

i read the set too,surprisingly not all of coralies set is coralie dependent

most of it is just normal support

[half hatch]

Imo some things told there are just not really true and the percentages that are supposed to portray how good a valk is leave out the rather fluid nature of the game where it really always is situational

[gentle pike]

also is 3pc theresa origins fine

on griseo/prometheus

[lament prairie]

copium but yeah it works

if you wanna use bke long term you're gonna need SS minimum btw

[gentle pike]

shes farmable right

[lament prairie]

yes

[gentle pike]

oh why not i alr have a lot of ancient willpower

[lament prairie]

mine is SSS next week~

[gentle pike]

so jealous..

[lament prairie]

I don't even use her all that often

[gentle pike]

is she a better dps than pre brick senti at least

[lament prairie]

yeah abyss flower was crazy back in the day

nuclear bomb

[gentle pike]

goated

lemme run her in

universal mirage

[naive shoal]

is the husk 2nd phase no dmg recieved fixed yet?

[quaint saffron]

Hey guys, any team for this abyss that can at-least reach 670, without Silverwing and her DK?
I used HoHE, but, i only scored 21567- welp-

[craggy plume]

No, don't expect it to be fixed before next go around.

[gentle pike]

oh yeah uh she doesnt restore sp attacking on her ult state???

yeah shes unplayable
ill be a bke main in spirit

[lean isle]

what is this for after the lv10 on the main event?

[odd salmon]

Clicking disaster

[lament prairie]

no lmfao its kinda shit

I think her SSS helps that

AF outside of burst has like 15 sp restore too

[cunning gull]

hi, i need help deciding what boss should i promo to nirv on since i have 1900 trophies and i need to decide what score to do on husk

the valks i have for the next 3 bosses are:
huodou: s2 thel, s0 bis supports, ss yy or s0 xdc team with no chen or sera
tribunal: s0 horb (can get s2 from PWO), soon ss2 sw, s0 last slot, ss youyun
minion: s0 mse team, s0 supports ss youyun

no chen for the fourth boss so i won't bother if i were in nirv for it

[vernal terrace]

Between Tribunal or Hodom it looks like

[cunning gull]

my ranks are sus so im not sure ☹️

[vernal terrace]

[plucky gust]

AAA. power downtime meant i can't tryhard. . . @spiral raven even gave me a ref. . .

power will only be down for 1 hour they said...

its been 2 hours

i legit think there's only 10 rooms for nirvana. . .

[plush kernel]

How good is she? One copy

[plucky gust]

S - guarantees top 3 redlotus standing unless something REALLY unusual happens
SS - where she really is good, really this should be S
SSS - ooh so you really want that nirvana retent huh

SSS Dreamseeker - if you want to retent redlotus, she's enough

[plush kernel]

Thank you

[ivory iris]

whats the difference between youyun and songque?

[plucky gust]

tldr;

• youyun: a much more generic option for world star rings
• songque: basically a senadina-specific AO.
  youyun is much better btw, simply because she's supposed to be a proper AO for world star rings. for sena DPS teams, youyun is better simply because of powercreep. new > old.

assuming this is S.

[chilly wind]

Is it worth it to purchase the B stigmata for Ai-chan to complete her set? Is she + Sirin still BiS for ignite weather? Should I go for something else instead?

[crude cloak]

1. Ai has been replaced as the second support for P1 Fire teams by Sparkle
2. Sirin has been replaced as the Ignite DPS by dragon Coralie

[chilly wind]

so she's doomed

[crude cloak]

Doesn't mean you should get those atp ofc

[naive shoal]

whats the best lineup for qua boss in MA xd

i might cope using vbm

[vernal terrace]

Collection

[chilly wind]

should I go for anything or wait for further updates? I do not plan to pay for the BP

[crude cloak]

Well, did you get SW dkey?

[edgy hamlet]

Ok the HoRb team aint working so I decided to improve my Mei team

[crude cloak]

Might be best to show your acc in general too

Valks + weaps + stigs

[chilly wind]

if you're talking to me, I'm pretty sure SW dkey isn't in the BP, you meant HoR?

[crude cloak]

I meant gacha

[plucky gust]

i really wish we have tools for that. . .

[chilly wind]

ah yes I have the new SW gear

[dusky mantle]

Lmao

[crude cloak]

If you meant BP specifically then did you alr get all P1 dkeys?

[dusky mantle]

I lived

[chilly wind]

I'm missing HoR and HoT dkeys, should I get them first? As a side note, I have mostly Part 1 teams, I took a break when Part 2 started until last patch, only thing I have after Senadina is the new HoFi gear (and SW gear)

[digital sky]

Songque isn't sena specific (the inital ARI is tho)
Shes a general elemental aop
Shes nowhere near the best anymore, but she can atleast be used anywhere (elemental dmg wise, not physical dmg wise)

[crude cloak]

They're the priority if you're planning to stick to playing the game consistently

[chilly wind]

okay, thanks, I suppose HoT and HoR with dkey lost all their bosses to part 2 characters though, right?

[crude cloak]

Yeah, it's purely for +10 ATK from each

[chilly wind]

yep, thank you!

[crude cloak]

And erm akshually

[vernal terrace]

Well HoT lost them to Luna

[crude cloak]

HoT lost her bosses to LV

Ye

[vernal terrace]

Who is part 1

Though she did get a stellar key recently

[chilly wind]

right, I forgot about her, she even got a dkey damn

HoF dkey when

[craggy plume]

We have HoFi stellar key but nothing for HoFs.

[vernal terrace]

Nyx DKey when

[chilly wind]

would be too peak

[spiral raven]

oh wow u were in my bracket

but rip

[dusky mantle]

ggwp

just like me neighbours

[digital sky]

I can finally use my sss nyx.!

If only a pt2 valk had a lot of offield ice attacks 😔

[vernal terrace]

[cunning gull]

foreshadowing

[last hull]

@naive shoal @potent flame Improved my transition phase clear a lot

I can rerecord if yall would like

[weak oracle]

is this optimal for ss1 sw - s0 vita - s2 horb with ss YY?

[craggy plume]

No you should be at around 800 points with that setup. Maybe the low rank pulls you down a bit but probably not that much.

[vernal terrace]

So slacc wtf

[weak oracle]

I can't pull that mid-phase properly

[cunning gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlDA0UmYga4 tried this?

[weak oracle]

AR on mid-phase??? lol

led to 733. probably ranks/affixes matter

[lament prairie]

holy slaccet

I think I'd t5 if I was literally dead

[vernal terrace]

That bracket

[potent flame]

barely anybody tried

at 3200 you would expect everyone malding since it's not 2080 where jumpers dwell

[lament prairie]

the best part

t2, 3, 6, 13, 18

all have SSS Youyun

idk if yumei sniping or almost forgot abyss

[vernal terrace]

What da skill issue

[lament prairie]

only cleared 2 stages btw

wake up yumei

[vernal terrace]

Yumei wanted to slacc and sleep

[lament prairie]

wake up

free t1 myriad

[round arch]

as much as he tries, he prolly cant

[lament prairie]

wai

robbie hacking?

[round arch]

yezz

[vernal terrace]

[lime grail]

admitting to hacking in front of a mod is crazy

[round arch]

I think she knows me more than you in that case

[lament prairie]

I'm gonna band together the eu players to mass report him

all 7 of us

[round arch]

[vernal terrace]

Rip Robbiee

[crude cloak]

Power of Syn3 dkey

And SSS YY I assume

[lament prairie]

me?

[crude cloak]

Wtf SS

Dalao

[lament prairie]

I'm on a quest to prove that SSS YY is a scam

YY is not even the problem in my run its S0 vita

[crude cloak]

Ah, right, HoRb is Syn3 too

So whel

[round arch]

depends on boss

[lament prairie]

no

she's a scam on all bosses

[crude cloak]

idk man, that ARI regen looking too juicy

[round arch]

I mean u need SSS yy ARI, if u have 9S+9 team and SS yy. U will prolly lose 10-20 points from cap

vita will lose u like 6-10 points max

[lament prairie]

never need SSS for t50

scam

zero return on investment

[crude cloak]

Okay, and without Syn3 dkeys?

[lament prairie]

why dmg so inconsistent in p1 anyway can clock just fuck you dmg resist

[lament prairie]

yeah prob eu is dead

[crude cloak]

100% barrier-related

[round arch]

for t50 u either need SSS yy or +3 dk. Hell the condition eu in rn, u need nothing

[lament prairie]

dkey > sss aop

[crude cloak]

Clock likes scooting around

[vernal terrace]

He doesn't like to stay in one place

[round arch]

I think euphie can best tell the story, he struggling hard with no dk syncs and sss yy

ARI is so bad

[crude cloak]

I don't think 740+ is possible with SS YY +1 dkeys

[lament prairie]

euphie has SS+3 Vita and +3 HoRb what lack

[crude cloak]

I'm getting like 720 (can squeeze out a couple more if I wanna)

[round arch]

ARI

and the HP coagulation DMG

[crude cloak]

Nvm, my SW is SS1 xdd

[round arch]

and everything

[lament prairie]

huh

[crude cloak]

dkey Synergy increases HP loss

At Syn1 you need to do Mirage -> Vita CA -> Mirage

[lament prairie]

oh ok that is cooked as shit

thats bum cancer levels of shill

ari shouldn't be an issue tho, SS Vita has the ARI I need

I think anyway, unless it doesn't actually apply here

[crude cloak]

It does, you get +5 compared to lower ranks

Cuz I doubt you're going for 2 stacks

[round arch]

it does apply

[lament prairie]

I need that then xd

I waste easily 10pts waiting for ari

[crude cloak]

It's ok
https://youtu.be/mUqCjZXr-wk

[round arch]

getting the SW WA early is a big thing, and if u dont have enough ARI shit suddenly turns into cancer

[crude cloak]

Far from the main issue in the run xdd

Surprised that Mei is better here even at Syn2 HoRb ngl

In my case I mean ofc

[round arch]

yeah this boss doesnt attack u much so u cant quick dodge anything

so its much more loss than usual

just pure ARI and DMG check

[lament prairie]

kek

so no 800 unless +3 purely from transition

thats ass

[round arch]

yup

best thing u can do is, delay ur attacks a bit, so u gain more ARI in that way

[round sluice]

Can someone help me?

I want to create a team with Raiden Mei Xetinel as dps can someone recommend suports for her?

[arctic remnant]

I'm legit a bit upset, does the "new" bronya need SSS to be decent or am i missing something?
I haven't scored anything above 500 points in Abyss since her release in Red lotus and i'm just losing any motivation to play past the 15.000 score mark

Like I'm used to derank in redlotus every 3 weeks, but at least i was able to score decently before, right now even clearing simple stages feels like it takes me ages

[crude cloak]

Well, she does want some ranks, but not quite SSS
S2 is the only big one

What team are you using?

[arctic remnant]

right now Bronya, HLE and thelema because it's either her or sparkle I have no one else

[craggy plume]

That seems very low to me. I haven't had major issues at SS personally with DS SSS, can be a support issue or sequencing problems, probably a bit of both.

[crude cloak]

Hm, not the best but should be enough

Gotta record a run or smth, can't tell otherwise

Assuming all your gear is maxed that is

And what's your SW's rank

[craggy plume]

An issue which can hurt your damage is staying too long on basic attacks as they don't have good damage by themselves, but of course it is hard to say without seeing a run.

[last hull]

Does changing the lineup for the next floor remove the valkyries you have already placed beforehand?

[plucky gust]

on the team selection, press sort, then select the tag for Symbiosis. the ones showed are your options.

[snow solar]

why is ss bailu good?

[native parrot]

what's the average score I can get for this abyss using DS astralop? SS SW, S0 LP, S2 HoRb team

[vernal terrace]

The initial ARI skill is at SS and an older world Star Valkyries that couldn't end SO with Ult now can after they deplete their QME

[crude cloak]

• extra Surplus stack

And high ARI regen

[vernal terrace]

Isn't that at S already?

[crude cloak]

Depends on what the question meant ig

[vernal terrace]

All aops need SS anyways

[elfin parrot]

don't say that

[elfin parrot]

An average score isn't really something that's tracked. Best I can give you are higher ended scores that you can try to approximate off of.

You also didn't specify the abyss tier but I assume RL?

[finite barn]

i have s and i get 3 surplus stacks iirc

[elfin parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4xq_xBNKlk Maybe you can try referencing the vita XDC version in this video. There's prob something closer to what you're asking for somewhere out there on bili but it's what i have handy for now

I don't think HoRb's personal ranks are significant for her ability to support for world star teams. Her synergies are what's more important (but I do not recommend rolling for them for f2p/light budget players, especially at this point when she's relatively older by now)

Beware of the S Youyun in this video. XDC is prob a stronger support than HoRb too but maybe HoRb can compensate for being a faster option.

Also be mindful of the disturbance differences across servers. (This video is 9 higher than NA currently so maybe that can compensate for HoRb's lesser damage to make the fight more copy-able for you)

[native parrot]

yeah I guess what I meant to ask was for a reference with DS since everything I found on yt was YY runs. And yes, it is for RL

[elfin parrot]

Main things to be mindful for S youyun vs DS are what Teammate said here