💁gameplay-help

[spiral raven]

[edgy hamlet]

Like this?

Im just missing too much dmg at the end

[spiral raven]

before doing the last special, u coulda weap then special then finisher

probs kill and its a 798

[edgy hamlet]

Hmm I could try it but I thought the WA animation took too long

[spiral raven]

can take out the swapping into helia qte in between part probs

[edgy hamlet]

true

[spiral raven]

if u did ba cancels u can like get a few basic before second ring, so there's that too

and then sneaking basic after wa cast

idk if it can make that much up

but its something to try ig

[edgy hamlet]

Oh ok thats true. I was just avoiding all BA cancels because I needed the dmg lol

[spiral raven]

u also did 2 qte right, so can maybe try swapping one out instead.

like when i said qte in between, was thinking of just within the ring.

so looking at it a bit more, keep the extra qte in ring, take out the qte before ring, then do the wa in ring and it should be fine

[spiral raven]

ba cancels r more dmg no

dps feels higher

[edgy hamlet]

I thought it cut out damage...

now Im not sure anymore

[spiral raven]

main thing was second atk in the sequence is slow, and the dmg not really good thats why u skipped it

so it would make sense if u did more damage by doing it

cuz u fit more of higher dmg stuff in

but idk u can test it out

[edgy hamlet]

Ok thank you. I think I got some testing to do lol

[spiral raven]

try this tho

i think u cut out the extra qte out of ring

keep extra qte in ring

then add wa and it prob work out

[naive shoal]

lmfao yeah that helped alot ty xd

[edgy hamlet]

[spiral raven]

u can try to sneak basic in after wa
like wa basic ult

or just better affix

[edgy hamlet]

she's max affixed tho but I can try the sneak BA strat

[spiral raven]

[edgy hamlet]

Oh also I didnt do any BA cancels at all in that run

[spiral raven]

also wa basic into special, taht also works

and also about the cutting out qte out of ring

in the end ur gated by ring cd so

it actually doesnt matter now that i think about it oops

[edgy hamlet]

Yea I just slotted more basics there in that down time

[vernal terrace]

I can definitely get more? Though idk what to follow, if you ask bout my LV, shes S0

[edgy hamlet]

also unrelated but damn i've never been this early

[vernal terrace]

Lol

[edgy hamlet]

That worked but didnt quite reach 798 like you

[spiral raven]

should be more damage with qte

[edgy hamlet]

tyty

[spiral raven]

nice

[edgy hamlet]

Yea that run has the qte pre 2nd SO

[spiral raven]

on helia u can tap ult once when it lights up and then tap someone else to swap faster (during ring)
and then spamming eva ult together for finisher

combined probably 1~2 more point in addition

[spiral raven]

so ur missing 1 point could be from that

turns out it was 799 actually if u did all of that

i just double checked my score

[edgy hamlet]

but I thought I was gated by SO CD and QTE was more dmg no?

[spiral raven]

it speeds ur second ring

faster finisher + faster swaps

ur first ring correct it dont matter too much

have to wait for cd anywyas

but second ring could be potentially slower becuz of that

or u can keep trying idk

im basically retired? as asa likes to say xd atp, so i dindt really try

[vernal terrace]

[edgy hamlet]

Im not sure if I understand the first half. You do 3 ults on helia then her special CA during ring, and then swap off to someone else right?

[spiral raven]

u know how for full ring u want to swap out to teammates to regen sp
u need to swap to teammates in this time.
u would have just done the special ca from the animation
now u can get out of this animation quicker by tapping ult when it lights up once, and then tap teammate

[mortal jetty]

[spiral raven]

herro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087728190539169892/1478948610610823300/nqQ2x-5rpqX14T1kS8i-8c.gif

[vernal terrace]

Asa prolao

[mortal jetty]

Hello pro

[edgy hamlet]

huh that's weird... I thought tapping ult would just lead to a finisher to end SO

[spiral raven]

tap ult once, but then spam tap ur teammate basically

u just tap it once when it lights up and then spam swap

wont trigger finisher

[edgy hamlet]

OH

I never knew

[spiral raven]

well

its been here since the first cycle

so ig now u know

[edgy hamlet]

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087608112506216518/1360146795292000287/1744270622897.gif?ex=69ccc1ea&is=69cb706a&hm=15dcc1c84dbfb6787a9b52a885ffde5f0aef94ba1f03ae50795a34f1e7ddde1f&

never too late

[rare iris]

never late

[spiral raven]

true

[edgy hamlet]

[vernal terrace]

[edgy hamlet]

[red plank]

[crude cloak]

Didn't they fix that tho

In like 8.4

At least so I've heard

Or was it the evade + finisher one

[boreal eagle]

for me both seems to work

[edgy hamlet]

I LOCKED THE FUCK IN HOLY

damn it someone got 799 before me and now it was useless

[mortal jetty]

800 when

[edgy hamlet]

Sponsor me dkeys ty

[vernal terrace]

[edgy hamlet]

[vernal terrace]

Bruh why did that take forever to load

[edgy hamlet]

loaded fine for me

[vernal terrace]

Not on my phone

[lapis raven]

crit harder noob

[edgy hamlet]

it's ok I achieved my goal

[vernal terrace]

Trying to achieve 830 but
Somehow it's difficult

[flat scroll]

basically I've been gone since finality Kiana. How bad is the power creep?

Is she mildly usable

[red plank]

RL?

[vernal terrace]

With her new Divine Key yes
But she rarely sees dps usage

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[red plank]

ooh that might be problematic with 525 Dist...

[flat scroll]

no clue what that is. Is it the finger nuke. I didn't get it. No idea how I get it.

[vernal terrace]

526

[vernal terrace]

Gacha and yes it's the finger beam, likely not recommended to get

[red plank]

EU 525

[red plank]

wot team?

[flat scroll]

Yeah no. I'm not pulling for a new ultimate. I luckily I got the new Mei and Ellie. Are they usable together or different teams.

[vernal terrace]

S0 PAWS FWS S2 FDD SS Chenxue

[red plank]

ah FWS... thats why

[vernal terrace]

My Luna ain't helping much either

[red plank]

i still think you should try a rot with LV again

didn't u get her ranks from supply shop?

[vernal terrace]

XDC and HLE can both support each other, even then XDC has a Elysia passive is if she's on the team when XDC is leader

[red plank]

surely not broke

[vernal terrace]

No-

[red plank]

aren't they still there?

no LV ranks = 🧱

[vernal terrace]

I'm broke

[red plank]

smh i still have 3k even after getting ranks

[vernal terrace]

Was only able to buy 1 stamp

[red plank]

[red plank]

time to whel

[vernal terrace]

[hardy elm]

is lunar vow astral weapon gonna be rerun during this patch cycle? or thats it for now

[flat scroll]

Who should I put as the third slot. Oh right you don't know who I have. The last relevant characters I have are finality Kiana, Origin Mei, and Hoh Elysia.

Silver wing Bronya

[vernal terrace]

VBm
Valkyrie blastmetal

[flat scroll]

No clue who that is.

I've been gone for 2 years bro.

[red plank]

A-rank coralie

[half hatch]

her weapon is gone for now no idea when it might return

[flat scroll]

The gray haired girl?

[red plank]

thats helia

[flat scroll]

yeah I feel like I entered a completely different world.

Alot can change in two years.

[vernal terrace]

Doggy

[red plank]

this one

[half hatch]

the game did change a lot during the last years, the main thing is team building

[half hatch]

well it's been three since hofi

[flat scroll]

He looks like a raccon

[vernal terrace]

He-

[red plank]

she*

[flat scroll]

[red plank]

kek

[flat scroll]

Typo

[red plank]

KekLmao

[vernal terrace]

Some would wish to have playable males that aren't in specific game modes

[red plank]

[hardy elm]

ah damn that felt super fast to me oh well

had to pity mei's weapon and i couldnt get neough crystals in time

[vernal terrace]

Stellar key banners usually have a shorter time frame

[flat scroll]

Just give us gender bent Kevin and call it a day.

[vernal terrace]

That's Kiana

[hardy elm]

how long it took for otehr similar weapons to be reran ?

when was selee's weapon reran for example

[half hatch]

anyway do you have any specific questions about the game at the current moment ? since you're a retrurnee are you open to restart if your account does not have things too notable ? This is not a necessity but would get a a little head start

[vernal terrace]

Hadn't gotten it's first rerun yet

[flat scroll]

Fair enough. how about a Kevin in a skirt.

[hardy elm]

...oh god

[vernal terrace]

So last time was in 8.5 when it did

Waxing Moon didn't get it's first one till 8.1

[half hatch]

hasnt had one for now, normally dkeys take a bit to rerun and if you're not a competitive which might be interested in the +10 atk you prob also won't use them a lot

[flat scroll]

Btw should I go for The new Mei's weapon. I got lucky with Ellie's weapon.

[vernal terrace]

Say that to flawless Benediction

[half hatch]

always pull for the weapon if you get the valk

that is non negotiable

[vernal terrace]

^

[flat scroll]

It was back in the day. I ran around with 3 star weapons. And somehow cleared almost everything.

Now I can't even clear stage one.

[half hatch]

well it's not about clearing but how you compare to other players in your bracket, even back then weapon were relatively important for valks and nowdays that sig stigs are craftable they became even more of a standard

[flat scroll]

Fair enough. Guess it's time to keep pulling on a weapon banner.

Btw what do I do with dupe stigma's again. I kinda already have a full set for Mei.

[vernal terrace]

Salvage them

[flat scroll]

Do they give those new rainbow cubes?

[half hatch]

yes

[vernal terrace]

Yes
Those are a pretty scarce resource

[flat scroll]

I got a bunch of them randomly and used them to craft Mei and elysia's sets.

oh... I already used up all of them.

[half hatch]

since you already have mei and hle do you know how p2 team building works and what teams you can form with those battlesuits ? or was this arleady discussed before

[vernal terrace]

Told them that XDC and HLE can support each other but they probably need a more in-depth summary

[half hatch]

!faq ring

[night parcel]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

• the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
• the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
• the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

Astral Ring Team Building Resources:

• [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for a guide to Astral Ring team building fundamentals!
• Click here to view a spreadsheet of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[half hatch]

well if your interested check out the first link

it's a general guide on the new team building and we could take hle as an example who can support her and who she could support

[digital sky]

Lv can slay lantern
..right?

Or is it

[dawn charm]

just got all 3 of her stigmatas wondering if any easy way to get the bits i need to upgrade them though

[vernal terrace]

Mainly gacha or events
I'm guessing you mean prisms?

[dawn charm]

yeah

[vernal terrace]

And don't pull weapon banner just for those

[vernal terrace]

When you already have the weapon

[dawn charm]

i wasnt pulling just for them mostly trying for weapon but not got it

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[dawn charm]

rn she got watter spirit guns

[vernal terrace]

She your only AR Valk?

[dawn charm]

AR?

[vernal terrace]

Astral ring

[dawn charm]

ohastral ring yeah

the only valk i have you cant see in pic the defult kiana XD

[vernal terrace]

Got lucky getting her from carnival with the free pulls?

[dawn charm]

yep

that exsactly

[vernal terrace]

I see
Would advise not exactly wasting crystals on the weapon banner

[dawn charm]

to be honest i have been told she good without her weapon banner specific

[vernal terrace]

As a support she is fine without it

[dawn charm]

rn she my biggest dps XD

trying to get seele to s rank rn to just finished getting 3 star on all her shard daily thingy

[vernal terrace]

Without her signature, it's like around ~30%-40% DMG loss and losing some utility

[dawn charm]

would it be worth going for the mei instead of her weapon?

[vernal terrace]

If you can guarantee Mei's weapon also

[dawn charm]

i cant why i orignaly swapped to her weapon instead of mei

[vernal terrace]

Well, then do you have any one use crystal sources still available then?

[dawn charm]

?

i still got 3 boxes in training manuel if i can unlock them with collecting enough tickets

[vernal terrace]

Training manual?
That the returnee version of the starter manual?

[dawn charm]

growth regimine on pase 5
sensi forgot about dont have
level rush im lv 36

[vernal terrace]

Oh wait
Is this a new account?

[dawn charm]

my brain did a dumb and mixed up training plan and starter manuel

[vernal terrace]

[dawn charm]

ye

[vernal terrace]

Then you should be fine
Newer accounts can get a lot of crystals to guarantee a Valk and her gear

[dawn charm]

so go to mei?

[vernal terrace]

Yes

[dawn charm]

oki

[foggy vapor]

Would using excess asterite after torus and ancient wills to by valk frags to try and farm dorm exp be a waste of resources?

[glad trout]

I believe it’s generally recommended to put valks you can use in Elysian Realm as one of your highest priority uses of asterite

maybe not the highest, but you’d want to unlock all the usable valks for ER

[dusky mantle]

Do

[foggy vapor]

I've done that but I mean like going for higher ranks

[fair bough]

Wait, does Lunar Vow stellar key not buff elemental breach anymore? Because PAWS recommended team is her, LV, and BFDD, who already provides elemental breach

[vernal terrace]

It converts into lightning DMG

[fair bough]

Ouu that's sad

[dusky mantle]

Slacc run. Good enough? I think i can squeeze out a few more pts

[cursive pendant]

got like 17 of these, should i use em in reserve works for divine keys or js whatever i feel like?

never rlly paid attention to divine keys

actually dont know if this is in the right chat either

[vernal terrace]

Either or but yeah save them for any divine key you're missing

[cursive pendant]

these are the only ones that are locked for me rn

as for ones i dont have its a lot more but the rest are unlocked

[vernal terrace]

Key of Sentience and Key of Creation also have foundry counterparts

Same with binding and Judah you can get from Exchange

[cursive pendant]

i see i see

[vernal terrace]

Might take some time but do what you can at your own pace

[cursive pendant]

i look at the near 700 hours i have in this game and sigh sometimes

how have i gotten so far while actively forgetting divine keys exist

[vernal terrace]

Will say depending on the stage where you're at, you won't have to get the dkey's from reserve right away

[cursive pendant]

essentially endgame

[vernal terrace]

Exalted?

[vernal terrace]

Asking if you're in the highest tier of abyss

[cursive pendant]

oh

i mean i think so unless you mean like the abyss ranks

i dont rlly sweat the abyss i js clear for the gems and move on with my day tho

[vernal terrace]

Well kinda?
Exalted Abyss is Superstring Dimension

[cursive pendant]

oh then yeah 😭

sorry im so slow sometimes i never learnt hi3 lingo

[vernal terrace]

It's fine
What Abyss rank you're currently in?

[cursive pendant]

rn agony 1

usually stay around agony 1-3 because i js cant be bothered replaying the same boss over and over to rank up

made it up to redlotus once then my pc broke and i just didnt bother again

took way too much time

[vernal terrace]

I see
Save the crystallum for now, +10 attack isn't gonna do much unless you think it will, though at least try to craft Pledge of Sakura to unlock the lightning gene limit

[vernal terrace]

Can be found in the foundry under bounty weapons, which you'll need to craft it's spirit version first

[cursive pendant]

ah i see ty

forgot those ones exist too

actually need someone to take these hours in this game away from me atp i dont deserve them

[vernal terrace]

[cursive pendant]

this is so embarrassing 😭

[vernal terrace]

[cursive pendant]

either way tysm for the help (and reminding me of things i forgot existed)

[vernal terrace]

[slim cloud]

Yall, who should I use with S2+2 PAWS and S0+1 BFD during this abyss? SS1+1 Luna or SS0+1 Sushang? I’ve had better results with sussy but idk if it’s a skill issue of my part

[vernal terrace]

LV

[slim cloud]

Ty

[vernal terrace]

[dusky pendant]

where's the funny?

[vernal terrace]

[dusky pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/marie29-gif-7033290243142829699

'

brick rød sten mursten ? ! '

[last hull]

I just got DA from WT, can I survive using her without her gear? Cause idk I dont feel like crating a new stig set just to use her for a stress test then move on

[crude cloak]

Her Stress Test is very difficult

But you can cheese it if you can run full gear VKE

Meant the last stage here

Other stages should be doable with stat sticks

[last hull]

I actually have an Eos Gloria for some reason

I was thinking of just slapping that and G4 Fire and be done with it

[crude cloak]

That's close to BiS pretty much

[last hull]

But I know even if G4 is a lot more damage Shakespeare regens a lot of SP for her so I got worried

[crude cloak]

Wait, hold on

You're talking about Sirin's set, right

[last hull]

Yes

[crude cloak]

It doesn't regen SP

Ah

Didn't see the edit

[last hull]

I know I just wrote it horribly

[crude cloak]

Well, I've cleared all the stages before the last one with that

[last hull]

DA so trash she cant use the higher damage set because she has no SP

[crude cloak]

(with a copium weap)

[last hull]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[crude cloak]

Cheesed the last one with VKE DPS, which you can do if your Utu is lvl 50 at least

[flat scroll]

??? Why can't I salvage

[fair bough]

It's there to prevent hackers from ruining their victim's account too much

Do ELFs count as summoned entities to activate some stigmata bonuses?

[quasi pier]

no they don't

[fair bough]

I see thank you

[digital sky]

S2 DA to the rescue!

[flat scroll]

[dusky pendant]

yatta

^.^

v

[plucky gust]

funnily enough, they do count for ER summoned entity requirement though

[formal wigeon]

they do not, they're just separately mentioned on stuff that counts them

[warm grail]

Is it worth forging stigmatas since i got miss pink elf but i dont have her stigmatas should i forge them?

[lament prairie]

do you really want to play her? farming an entire g4 set is not a walk in the park

[plucky gust]

ooh yea. they worded it that way. thanks for the correction

[obsidian inlet]

best i can get with this team is 840 and im only at agony2 and ranking 6 rn :( afraid to drop even more and not getting any trophies

any suggestion ?

lunas animations are taking WAY TOO LONG

i managed to do 844

[pearl rose]

where do we get the rest of the crystals from the lobby??

[open bone]

I'd pick thelema wep between those two, it's a solid upgrade for MA and Rita dps whereas sonq is basically only useful for phys alien guard. ||Could also consider Sena wep from reserve next patch but that's only 10 balls||. I assume you have all the dkeys?

[open bone]

can you show a recording? I can't suggest changes if I don't know what you're doing.

[stiff wigeon]

Im not dealing enough damage like is s luna and ss luna such a big difference in how much my damage output is???

[delicate raven]

Probably you already missed most of those crystals, there was the "daily xtals" only available for 10 days after the table reached 100%, the rest are from missions and the daily packet

[open bone]

As a support if Luna isn't S2 or higher

then she's worse than Badum or Mei for paws

as a dps yeah it's honeslty even more impactful, Luna's S2 and SS are quite strong

[pearl rose]

ouchie, I see

[stiff wigeon]

So i just need to get her to s2 or ss?

[open bone]

If you do she will get better support buffs for paws yes

[stiff wigeon]

Is support difference for s2 and ss massive?

[open bone]

S2 to SS is bigger for dps than supp but still quite nice

SS increases the level cape on ult skill "face the destiny with you"

which increases lightning breach (converted into a bunch of lightning damage by p2 kit)

[stiff wigeon]

So s2 is enough for support compared to ss? and ss is mainly for dps?

[open bone]

S2 is when she's better than Badum

SS is a nice bonus on top of that

whether it's enough depends on your team and your bracket

[stiff wigeon]

I regret getting luna so badly

Worst decision i have ever made

I cant even get her frags anywhere other than bp

[open bone]

They're in spending shop?

||or should be next patch PWO I think||

[dusky mantle]

Hmm ss worth?

[open bone]

depends on what it costs u to get it but I've regretted being only s2 a few times now

[dusky mantle]

2000

Im thinking about it, but im kinda on the fence

Because im a professional slacc

[open bone]

I would say it ||depends on your PWO income||. If you have plenty ||I might wait for next patch|| but if ur low I'd grab it here

[dusky mantle]

On the other hand? I have surplus of the currency

[dusky mantle]

Yeah my pwo income is 0 haha. Too busy getting old valks to SSS

[open bone]

then I'd get it

[dusky mantle]

But hey. Only these AW valks left!!

[open bone]

gz

[last hull]

Speaking of AW

Should I use it in order to get the remaining old launch-era S-ranks so that I increase my chances of getting HFI in my next dorm S-rank rateup, or should I just use my AW to farm HoT ranks

[elfin parrot]

I don't really care about what goes on in dorm. Perhaps in a bit more time HoFi may even become more accessible/farmable.

Maybe you can refer to this reply for the purposes of WT valks.

AW and AL aren't the same but for your AL consider prioritizing ||SW|| and HoHE if you plan or have their dkeys

otherwise get ER valks > SS rank for dorm errands > LE and KMB to SSS for PWO shop > maybe further other valks if you're still somehow not maxed on dorm squad. also unlock valks for stress test if you care about that too (i think this last point overlaps with ER though?)

with the present roster size in the game, it's entirely possible to skip unlocking certain valks that aren't in ER, etc if you only care about tangible gains

@last hull

[vernal terrace]

What to use for MA?

[last hull]

I MEANT AW FOR HoT RANKS

Goddamn gonna kms

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-harakiri-gif-14785494

[elfin parrot]

HoT as SSS rank mainly provides her leader skill sp for psy valks? but I don't recognize her being well used enough nowadays to really consider this. Prioritize LE instead if you want that sort of purpose.

[last hull]

I've gotten HH to SS and SW to SS1 w AL alreaady, Im sticking to prioritizing AL for SW while slowly building up reserves to buy HC

[last hull]

LE's already SSS

[open bone]

Hohe TA Thelema to 0sec jxy, Mei HLE Badum for rice cake, ps on lamp prolly

[elfin parrot]

excess fragments can continue going to her for PWO (at least buy the first fragment every week that's slightly discounted)

[vernal terrace]

Hohe despite no dkey

[elfin parrot]

but i would prioritize PWO less than other things unless you know something in that shop is of interest to you soon

[open bone]

yeah I used hofs

if you have her she's better

here

[elfin parrot]

i don't think SS are really stopping points. SSS should be the meta standard (but i also don't think it's largely necessary for RL if you know what you're doing)

[open bone]

can also use cosmic expression or such

basically need starting sp, break shield with TA as spawns, go thelema and kill

[elfin parrot]

also i know i shot down the dorm consideration but it's valid to keep in mind if it overlaps with other goals. Tangible reward wise, I wouldn't go out of your way for it if the WT valk is something you could've skipped and you don't care to get her (not in ER mainly)

[open bone]

if you dont have the hands I can try to cook something with GoI for jxy ig

[last hull]

Like to max out dorm?

[elfin parrot]

no i mean the dorm supply that you mentioned first

[vernal terrace]

Alright

[last hull]

Oh mb

[elfin parrot]

i just mean it shouldn't be your main consideration

maxing out dorm refers to dorm squad

that should happen along the way by the time you get the ER valks and build a good amount of them to SS ranks, while also rolling gacha valks, farming A rank valks etc

[open bone]

Paws Horb Luna also works fine

if you need a backup

in that case you'd be PS FDD Rita on lamp

[elfin parrot]

main things to consider from PWO shop are the affix stabilizers (locks) for every patch, and stamp/ranks for any meta relevant valk you're using (esp when recently added)

but for the latter i'm always going to say to wait until you note a specific scenario to mileage from it

[vernal terrace]

Gotcha

[elfin parrot]

and locks could by rng amount to nothing

[vernal terrace]

Gonna cook something first with TA having VBm's stigs

[open bone]

Luna lead also works

[elfin parrot]

keep in mind the S rank pity in dorm supply isn't always a guaranteed new one. Those occur when you reach... i want to say every third s rank? but idr

and with the generally low odds, and slow rate of pulling on dorm (spending events only until you reach an excess, and even then it's fine to delay it so you get more valks in other ways), it really shouldn't be your primary consideration

[open bone]

if you need paws for lamp, can do luna Horb <symbiosis>

[last hull]

My next S-rank is guaranteed to be a new one, but I was consider getting a legacy valk from WT because even though I would get a new S-rank 5/7 of them were essentially useless legacy valks so I was considering getting one to increase my odds

I just bought DA for ER and Stress Test today, so the only WT valks that I haven't unlocked w AW are all only the legacy valks

But I guess it's really not worth it

[elfin parrot]

i wouldn't go out of your way for it. again the odds for hofi are low, hofi's own value is going down as time goes on (do you even own her dkey?) and your AW/AL can be better spent for more guaranteed benefits instead

[vernal terrace]

I can probably do PS FDD ME

On lampbad

[last hull]

Yea I dont even have her DKey, having her would still be nice but actually getting the DKey is a massive hypotheitcal scenario

Although even then my HoO is 0/4 so that would probably have even more diminishing returns anyways

[elfin parrot]

at that point the only benefit to hofi i see is ER, or sentimental purposes

i mean hoo would still want hofi dkey anyway

[last hull]

I mean to say that even if I did get P2 gear it would have even less value than normal cause I dont have a built HoO to even capitalize off of trio

So my HFI's only use would be RoO support for Vita

So not worth it (this is assuming I even were to get it)

[elfin parrot]

or WS support

[elfin parrot]

but yeah not worth going out of your way for

[last hull]

Why did that only send now

[elfin parrot]

oh you haven't even unlocked KMB yet?

it's a bit of a weird call here then

while KMB does have the 2 AW discount every week

[last hull]

No but like she's so old is she even worth it for SS MA anymre

[elfin parrot]

not really afaik

[last hull]

Like even LE isnt really that worth it

[elfin parrot]

the main idea is to max her to mileage from slightly discounted AW cost for the first weekly fragment for PWO shop

but i mean at that point you're sinking a ton of AW just to max her out. You need a very very very long term to start profiting off that

veteran players needed to rank her up for actual use so it overlapped that way

[elfin parrot]

LE's unrestricted starting SP for MA is kinda potent but i don't personally use her much nowadays

MA in general isn't important either

if she's far from SSS then maybe give up on her too

[last hull]

Thankfully I got her to SSS way back when

But I pretty much only have her and JK at SSS

I would probably have spent my remaining AW onn Sirin cause I dont really have good stuff on the off chance FDD's weathers come around but this bitch still costs AL too for some reason so that's not an option rn, maye in the future?

[elfin parrot]

sirin is very inefficient since she costs both

[last hull]

Yea Im gonna wait for when she only costs AW

Which... idk why they havent done yet but who cares

[elfin parrot]

.

sometimes they are just super late on these things but yeah it's possible. they definitely adjust costs before for other valks

anyway I think 2 valks are good enough if you need to focus on converting excess AW into PWO

is JK even AW? idr

[last hull]

I can def do that but what would I even use the PWO on, just hoard it I guess till someone decent gets their stamps added?

[last hull]

She is now yes

[elfin parrot]

if it's AL then it's questionable since we don't know if we'll have another HoHE or similar situation

ah ok then

i already covered PWO focuses earlier

get an idea of how much PWO you need to empty out stamps for someone, and to empty out stabilizers every version

it's inefficient and costly enough to keep you generally busy really

but it's still considered because it's just another exclusive source

[last hull]

Oh stabilizers are worth it from there?

Alrighty then I can def do that

[elfin parrot]

the worth is kinda debatable in the grand scheme of things but

if you're pursuing high meta and have excess resources, it's one of the ways you can make use of them for something that can matter or is desirable

you're basically burning resources inefficiently for only a few chances at slightly higher atk

but that sligthly higher attack can matter when contesting against other veteran players

obviously don't put yourself in an awkward spot going after this

stamps and ranks are still higher priority than a few points in atk but only if relevant, and even then they also need to have a specific scenario that will make the difference

otherwise for stamps i'm just going to say you can always get it later if it doesn't matter now

i kinda feel like i'm talking in circles at this point but hopefully that reinforces the idea of things

[last hull]

There are still a LOT of stamps I could buy tbh but at the same time I don't really see then being all too useful either so idk Im kinda lost rn cause there are a lot of ways I could go with this

Cause Im not really at the point where I think affixes will be all that impactful either

I dont mean that as in I will neglect them entirely but rather it wont have the greatest of returns rn

But I guess it's all about the long term

Arrrgh too much to consider

[elfin parrot]

stabilizers can also be used later as long as you buy them before the patch ends

but yeah alot of this is just small stuff or late stuff

[last hull]

I still find it weird that SW isn't in the PWO shop otherwise this would be a no brainer decision for me

Alas

[elfin parrot]

reviewing this in light of everything said so far for now

• the only thing to prioritize of what you left is vill-v. everything else can prob be disregarded
• your counts are already low. prioritize maybe ||SW with AL for now and disregard hohe more||. It's ok to let a bit stock up so you have something to work with in case something of interest suddenly gets announced. If your counts build up too high, having two valks can generally run your counts back down
• it takes 20000 PWO to buy all 8 stamps for a more recent valk in PWO shop. But mainly 5 or less are relevant to reach a next rank up. So i try to aim so that i can reach 12500 by the start of a patch
• for any excess, especially if there's nothing new upcoming that interest you for the stamps curently available that can go towards stabilizers

[last hull]

Could I "make up" so to say, not buying HH ranks from QT (to conserve AL for SW and other purposes) by buying her stamps in PWO? Although would this even be worth it cause HH atp is kinda uuuuuuh

Or just get stabilizers

[elfin parrot]

PWO ultimately is less efficient so if you have a choice of WT or PWO shop it's going to be WT

[last hull]

Ofc

[elfin parrot]

but again PWO is more of an additional source, so the actual answer is both if you can

if you find yourself awkwardly in a case where you have nothing for WT but need the stamps and have resources in PWO then it's sad but that's what you may resort to

that last case should be foreseeable and preventable though

[last hull]

As for AW itself, I guess just buy LE frags and scrap em for gold orbs?

[stiff anvil]

should i get songque asop? or should i get to 320 and get JD

WS valks i only have sparkle and VB

[elfin parrot]

check #👶beginner-help pins for spending event guide

songque op isn't strictly WS only. If you're using an elemental dps she at S rank is generally regarded as a very slight improvement over DS

!faq songque op

[night parcel]

Songque Astral Op

Songque Astral Op is a Gacha only Astral Op and she is designed to be used in World Star ring type teams. She is also viable as a general elemental Astral Op if the designated Astral Op for a team is not owned.

The main effects she gains at each rank are:

• S
  • 15% elemental DMG taken in ARC
  • 30% elemental DMG taken in SO
  • 2 ARI on WA hit (15sec CD per character)
  • 50 initial ARI
  • +25 intial ARI if Deepspace Anchor: First Light is on the team
  • 6 paralyze trauma on SO entry
• SS
  • 10 ARI per character with the Domain Resonance tag after SO ends
  • gain 2 SP when Resonance DMG is dealt (3sec CD)
• SSS
  • 20% total Resonance DMG dealt in SO
  • 5% lightning DMG taken in SO

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

tells us more what your future plans are

gacha ops aren't generally recommended to roll for but if you're planning for it, then songque op considerations may decrease

JDS isn't a valk i highly value at this point to go out of your way for. I think even risking another 10 roll would be questionable to get her

[elfin parrot]

maybe consider SS-ing other AW valks if you're struggling to take crystal tasks in dorm errands

[last hull]

I actually have a very different problem with dorm errands

My onigiri regen rate is shit

Cause my dorm is pretty bare bones

[elfin parrot]

what is it currently

[last hull]

15 per hour

[elfin parrot]

can you go to the menu and click at the top where the regen is

and scroll to the bottom to see where the 15 is from?

it's prob entirely from dorm lv bonuses

but i want to make sure if you have any from comfort or not

either way it's not really concerning as long as you're not missing crystal tasks

[last hull]

Oh wait 16 an hour

[elfin parrot]

yeah well you're not getting much more. I'm at 17. 18 is max but that costs crystals from beach dorm

[rose veldt]

wait wtf you can get 18 regen an hour? What level beach dorm?

[last hull]

Actually sourcing out valks for missions is not an issue

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/UFRTXwb.png

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Dorm#Dorm_Comfort_Level

[last hull]

I just never have onigiri to actually do all dorm errands in a day

[rose veldt]

Oh my god, I'm literally 160 Comfort away from that lmao

[last hull]

Without compromising the next day at least

[elfin parrot]

WPC stuff kinda overflows really and excess are just asterite which eventually funnels to just more NCC for affix rolling

so i'm really not concerned as long as you're getting crystal tasks, then getting enough WPC for crystallums

[last hull]

Alright then

But anyways more or less actually assining valks to missions is not an aissue so I dont think I need to spend AW to get anyone to SS

Although I could considering ranking up HoT or HoS for MA purposes...?

Is HoS even AW

No she isnt never mind

[elfin parrot]

in that case yeah the rest of your AW can go towards LE and JK for PWO

[last hull]

Alright then

Tysm for your help as always

[elfin parrot]

i still do recommend keeping a stock in case any sudden developments happen but we prob will get enough foresight too

yeah hope it clears things up

[last hull]

Actually now I have an unrelated question

Would it be worth it to buy BP this patch and next patch so that I could have Crystallum ready to go in case they add a new valk+weapon to reserve shop?

Purely from the lens of is the money worth the gain and not any personal decisions

I have been considering doing so for a little bit now ||since the revelation that they went and already added DAFL+gears to Reserve Works, which makes me pretty hopeful that they could very well add MPS in the near future, which would be big since she would be a huge upgrade to my account||

[half hatch]

|| since they're adding dafl before LV/FoV I'd assume that they're going to follow the BP shop release pattern which would be in 2-3 patches, I do think that thelema is one of the better characters you could get out of reserve work but outside of MA she's pretty much only ran with Rita on some bosses and even then it's a bit situational. Though I do think if you have no dkeys left in reserve work + any of the upcoming BP characters are not relevant to you then it's just up to you and you could argue for both cases ||

[last hull]

She would be pretty big for my account since she would help to fill a lot of holes in it

Most notably, I will actually have a P2 character with Rime Trauma

She would really help out my HH ||and SW||

[dusky mantle]

Is 830+ possible w/o CX?

[last hull]

Actually can you elaborate what you mean by that first part

[dusky mantle]

I feel ARI gated haha

[half hatch]

Tbh it's a bit hard to make predictions 2-3 patches into the further since we just don't know what she'll bring to you at that point, || I do think it's very likely that 8.9 Seele will function with SW and unless you have like 0 other WS supports thele would probably be a bit neglected for that role, in regards of rime trauma I don't anticipate them releasing any unit with really good time application just because of hle but Rita was also released relatively close to paws and she can inflict para || in the end it's a bit too early to predict anything imo but at the same time if none of the valks coming to BP in the next few patches seem to peak your interested buying knight BP which is already a good deal and potentially picking up a nice valk for you sounds okay, even if she does end up not being worth it extra crystallum is always nice

[half hatch]

|| Sena was put into the paid BP shop rotation before LV/FoV/thelema and her also being the first of them being added to reserve work even though she was released after LV/FoV hints at them following that paid BP shop schedule for reserve work as well, ofc I can't guarantee though ||

[last hull]

Who was released when in the paid BP I forgor the old schedule

You basically mean to say it's likely she wont be added right away?

[half hatch]

Most likely yes

[last hull]

Ah ok

||Ok I guess Ill pray Seele has Rime Trauma then||

[vernal terrace]

I think bp changed in 8.2? Which was when Sena got added to paid bp

[last hull]

Oh actually I remember something else

Usually I know this deal is garbage but given SW, is this a good deal? (Or worth buying over BP)

[half hatch]

Iirc the value itself wasn't that bad it's just that other bundles are better and take priority || next version also has some extra SW rank up bundles if you're looking to get ahead with ranks idr the prices of those though||

Idt It's worth it over BP even with SW ranks

[last hull]

BP just too good of value huh

This returnee event in my case should still be around for a small sliver of next patch right?

[half hatch]

|| regarding the bundles it's 680 b chips for 5 stamps so if you're explicitly looking for SW ranks the returnee bundle would be better because it costs the same lmao ||

[half hatch]

Yeah like a bit more than a week

[last hull]

Ok I think i will wait till then to decide ||since there is a topup event||

[half hatch]

Well it's basically the same amount of crystals for 80 b chips less and crystallum + mats on top of that

[last hull]

Did your role color just change or am I high

[vernal terrace]

What da hell red mango

[last hull]

It did change wtf

[vernal terrace]

Oh Ik what this is

[half hatch]

weird things happening around here

[vernal terrace]

Yes

[dusky mantle]

Profs are reddish orange now?

[vernal terrace]

Nah mango promoted

[open bone]

Huh

New color

[vernal terrace]

You promoted cadet

[obtuse lintel]

help

i dont have fdd or luna

[crude cloak]

Run PAWS Badum XDC then

[obtuse lintel]

any ref?

[vernal terrace]

Congrats on the red

[obtuse lintel]

was about to ask

[crude cloak]

It's a DPS check boss, not much to make a ref about

[obtuse lintel]

was your name always red?

[crude cloak]

Though there are some minor tricks with PAWS, you can check Hieu Le's ref on YT for inspiration

(different supps tho)

[obtuse lintel]

i remember it was another color

[crude cloak]

idk what you're talking about

[vernal terrace]

Nah teammate promoted

[obtuse lintel]

and your name

you became australian

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

wouldve been funnier if it was actually upside down

ǝʇɐɯɯɐǝꓕ

[crude cloak]

You might not want to do the ARC CA the way they do cuz you have less damage

[obtuse lintel]

i have less dmg, less valk

less money

[crude cloak]

But you'll just have to try it out

[obtuse lintel]

back to a3 ig

[vernal terrace]

[open bone]

No paws?

[obtuse lintel]

[vernal terrace]

No FDD or LV, they have PAWS though

[obtuse lintel]

[vernal terrace]

Whel skin

[obtuse lintel]

[open bone]

Why are we 745 then

[obtuse lintel]

cuz im not 🐳

[open bone]

That’s a Luna dps score

[obtuse lintel]

i just saved a lot for my baby

[open bone]

Is your paws attack also bricked?

Or

[obtuse lintel]

if i was 🐳 i would have Luna

[obtuse lintel]

[open bone]

Ah yeah bricked atk too

That’s rough buddy

[vernal terrace]

[open bone]

I bet you can still 760 tho

[obtuse lintel]

what should i get?

i have a few balls

i mean

white balls

[vernal terrace]

Definitely should craft pinions from foundry before picking up FHD

[open bone]

An Atu looks free

No need to craft anything

[obtuse lintel]

whats pinions

[open bone]

Fenghuang pinions

The craftable counterpart to brick and Fenghuang down

[vernal terrace]

Xy sword they like to gate keep

[obtuse lintel]

i can do that

[obtuse lintel]

where

[open bone]

You could once you get 1 more and can buy Fenghuang down

[obtuse lintel]

where do i get atu

[open bone]

As in doesn’t need to craft anything

You still need to buy it

[obtuse lintel]

so i dont need to craft this one?

i mean, mats is not a problem

[open bone]

An Atu doesn’t need to craft, it’s just 10 attack

Fenghuang down you need to craft pinions for

That’s all

[vernal terrace]

An utu

[obtuse lintel]

didnt get a thing

so, what should i do

in a language Kiana WC could understand

[vernal terrace]

This sword

[obtuse lintel]

wheres that

[rose veldt]

Anyone know any Nirvana S0 AOp references?

[vernal terrace]

Check weapons in reserve

[obtuse lintel]

exchange shop?

so i should buy that one

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

done

now what

should i max it?

[quasi pier]

just tune it

[obtuse lintel]

now what

craft 🧅 ?

they're begging to be used

[quasi pier]

pinions doesn't give +10 unless you sync it with Fenghuang Down

[obtuse lintel]

im a few levels from that

just get one more ball and i can get another dk

closer

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

i can get that by tomorrow

so can i craft p🧅

then

where do i buy skill?

[obtuse lintel]

cant

[vernal terrace]

[open bone]

Can you record run? You might be missing points somewhere but I can’t guess where without seeing it

[obtuse lintel]

I was doing start like

Badum ca + weap > XDC qte + ult > paws combo > badum qte + ult > paws combo

[plucky gust]

as im seeing this, is it just me, or symbiosis GoI BiS teams, whenever they're the best option, a very competitive abyss?

[open bone]

Why wep

What’s wep doing here

This isn’t an SD boss

[obtuse lintel]

I mean, i cant record it now, i already turned off pc

[obtuse lintel]

Not enhanced weap

[open bone]

Normal wep isn’t doing anything either

[obtuse lintel]

Just short weap for XDC qte

Without weap i wasnt getting Mei's qte

[vernal terrace]

Do ca ult

[quasi pier]

so ult

[obtuse lintel]

I do ult after paws combo

If i do ult there i cant ult after the combo

I was kinda copying refs but they activated fdd qte with badum ca

But since i dont have fdd and ca doesnt trigger XDC qte

I did weap

[spiral raven]

do mei wa ba ult

[obtuse lintel]

Since xdc has unlimited ults

[spiral raven]

start with mei

[obtuse lintel]

I can replace badum ult with mei ult

[open bone]

Then start with Mei

Mei qte slow as shit anyway

So saves time

[obtuse lintel]

So badum ca ult > paws combo > mei ult > paws

Dam im smart

If i was to cook, id be a Kaslana cooking

[open bone]

What’s score when you’re doing 3 paws ult

[obtuse lintel]

[open bone]

Even if u can’t record

If I can say that I can check how many points ur losing

[obtuse lintel]

I finish first part at 930 - 920

[open bone]

961 should be possible for third ult. Maybe faster

[open bone]

I can’t check that I’m in Nirvana

[obtuse lintel]

🐳

[prisma olive]

What is the rotation for sub DPS Lunar Vow in GOI teams?

Ult and then weapon hold?

[quasi pier]

as a support, you ult then switch

[cunning gull]

make sure to qte with her

[prisma olive]

Question: Badum or Lunar for PAWS Helia?

[cunning gull]

ideally paws fdd lv

[vernal terrace]

Depending on LV rank

[prisma olive]

She's S2 vs Badum's S0

[open bone]

Then Luna

[dusky mantle]

Thats a big gift

[rare iris]

||https://youtu.be/Xn2pqq63j84 :pepega:||

[coral drum]

Should I go for the new Mei battlesuit or Kiana's HoF

[cunning gull]

flamescion? or do you mean hofi (finality)?
neither have supplies
as for new mei, if you can afford her and her signature blade then yes

if not then just save

[hollow helm]

the best signets for Planar Arment: Warped spacetime on Inferno Deep Sequence?

[plucky gust]

here's the infographics on my armada. not owned by the armada btw. . . idk where OP yoinked this from. . .

and in general, non-AR build is faster

[coral drum]

Flamescion. I've been wanting that for a while

[hollow helm]

thank you!

[lament prairie]

sheesh these look good

[willow herald]

is there any reason to actually turn off the auto wep skill on FWS

[wooden patrol]

Do I even have anything to work with on this abyss...? The top 7 of my bracket have ss lv or s2 paws minimum or even BOTH , and I don't have lv ranks at all. I feel like I should just take the L. My original plan was to demote and come back with 200 trophies anyway

[vernal terrace]

Boss dependant but it wastes time so there are times where it has to be off

[wooden patrol]

(this is what I get for slacking 2 abyss and losing trophies unnecessarily )

[vernal terrace]

Does your PS have her weapon?

[wooden patrol]

All of my valks do, ps in particular has II (I got two in one pull so yes)

Just tell me guys if it's REALLY not workable unless I mald really hard (which I insist on not doing) I'm ready to accept my fate

[willow herald]

ig the times where it's off is pretty much only as a support?

[vernal terrace]

Certain bosses but yeah

[vernal terrace]

Could do PS FDD LV

[wooden patrol]

Ps dps? Does that still enable the abyss buff?

[vernal terrace]

Just the symbiosis tag one but should still work

[wooden patrol]

Alrrr I'll try to see and make it work

[obtuse lintel]

[cunning gull]

she's in a shop called war treasury, you can get her at any time from there

[lapis raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaz3XmQjj64
try this

i think s2 lv shd be able to do it

[obtuse lintel]

[open bone]

rip

[queen valley]

anyone know a good guide for emerging stars trial thats still relevant to this day?

[dusky mantle]

Wall hug. Or if you want. Plenty of guide in youtube.

It's pretty old

[digital sky]

Is wepless coralie bis for helia this boss?

Assuming
Helia _ SS LV

[sweet garden]

when open gacha pool should i open 1x or 10x?

for character

[formal wigeon]

It's the same, 10x goes faster

[obsidian inlet]

do any of yall know the rotation for this team

[obtuse lintel]

what now

craft pinions and get fhd?

[quasi pier]

yeah, that's the plan

[half hatch]

Generally you'd prob to hle WA -> hold ult -> Mei qte -> ult -> LV qte -> ult -> spam WA until her frenzy is over (hold if you want to end it early because the mob is already dead or you're overkilling), if you need to do another LV rot just qte to Mei and ult to reset LV qte and so that she gets some SP

Then for SO you'd do LV ult -> spam WA until her frenzy is over -> hle qte -> ult -> Mei qte -> WA -> LV Qte -> ult -> WA Spam until frenzy is over -> ult

You can also add either hle WA x2 -> hold ult after her first ult in SO or Mei CA in her SO rotation, LV doesn't need the SP for her rot but she does need it to consume enough SP for 3/3 FoI which is a decent DMG boost

I doubt you'd need the DMG boost in a2 though

In the end I can't do much more than this if you can feel free to record your run and we can give you some tips

Though it's already quite late and abyss will close in less than half an hour

[obsidian inlet]

yeah unfortunately nobody saw my message earlier T-T

[half hatch]

Yeah it happens sometimes even in a server which isn't being overrun by questions, feel free to ask for rots/suggestion what you could do better in the future though, it's always great to get some input from experienced helpers

[kindred spear]

Hey guys

I wanted to know about the story of the post honkai Odyssey

The open world in general

is it worth playing? storywise and reward wise

[vernal terrace]

Let's you unlock adventure tasks which can give you crystals

[kindred spear]

I wanted to know a general idea of the story

is it its own story or depended on part 1

I played the whole part 1 story 2 years ago but I can't remember what the open world was about

[vernal terrace]

Well, story wise it also takes place after Part 2 despite releasing during part 1

[kindred spear]

Woah

it takes place After part 2?!

[vernal terrace]

[kindred spear]

So it must be its own story right?

[vernal terrace]

Most it has is just the same old part 1 characters
To me yeah it's own story

[kindred spear]

So should I just start playing part 2 or check out the open world

[dreamy vapor]

It does spoil the ending of part 1 to some extent (and maybe part 2) but yeah it takes place 8 years after part 1, but it is its own kinda story. APHO1 released around chapter 15

[vernal terrace]

Idek if APHO mentions anything for part 2 but again yeah it released during part 1

[dreamy vapor]

it doesnt explicitly so far, but it does show who lives and all that

[kindred spear]

What i did like about it I think there was a playable male character

xD

[vernal terrace]

Alright

[vernal terrace]

The only one since Male DS sadly not canon

[dreamy vapor]

for all we know it'll spoil explicit stuff later on, but for now it just shows certain locations existing and people not dying

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[kindred spear]

What about Kevin guys I don't mean to spoil but is there any playable male characters in the game besides the guy in the APHO?

[dreamy vapor]

you do play as men a couple of other times, but they are for very limited times so not quite the same. APHO warrior is unique like that

[kindred spear]

aha

Thanks I'll go check it out

[open bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V9kPFLRFZ4&feature=youtu.be
Any improvements I can make to this to get another 7ish points?

I've managed to +1 it from just better inputs of the same strategy

but that's not quite enough to retain, it'll only hit 10th

I need 779

[open bone]

Hmm. 776

But retain score 83 now anyway

Alright, surely 7 more still possible

No it’s not. Well, c’est la vie

[jade zephyr]

Seems like a lot of people are cooked this cycle
(Me included...seems ill be 12th..)

[open bone]

Too much of a demeg check abyss not enough room for hands

Well, I say that but there’s an S2 paws in my bracket that managed to demot

[spiral raven]

ba cancels werent done out of ring but

biggest thing not fitting weap in ring ig (weap in ring more damage)

then also
can do the special immediately after the mob, don't need to wait. most of dmg is on the ending hit
looks like 785+

can sneak basics in after wa but that won't add a lot because ur s0

[open bone]

Abyss closed alr but ty

[spiral raven]

yeah i only take a peek now and then

miss stuff easily

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/492911654774898710.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=KianaFlop

[plucky gust]

guys, is there a new strat for lantern?

S0+1 and S0 teri. xentinel, badum, and HLE are out

[last hull]

Is 946 even possible given my crappy invest

[open bone]

you got Luna?

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1G5PFzmEqC/

[plucky gust]

yep. im actually looking for a luna ref. . .

[open bone]

oh, luna ref with no PS?

for p1 luna

oops wrong link

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CeLLzuEVa/

[plucky gust]

ahh no. i mean with luna support. the first ref is fine. thanks mate~

[open bone]

no prob

[lean steeple]

Hi everyone, would like to know if its beneficial to take Sena's stamps from the supply shop in light of her being given away next patch. New her rank ups worth getting (esp for support sena for WoD/WS), or are they a waste?

[open bone]

Sena ranks are pretty weak, only notable rank is SSS

SS1 is a slight buf for iirc ws

but not major

[lean steeple]

Thank you. Should've guessed so, but wanted to clarify

Iirc, Hoyo is also adding thelema stamps next patch to the supply shop, are those any good? Mine is only s0 and I have also 20 frags from the bp

[lament prairie]

||iirc sena is getting a weather that forces Sena dps to be a thing again?||

Heard that shit somewhere

[open bone]

||What, resonance Guaymas? Didn't badum already almost take that one?||

||She did take lightning guaymas even before hle||

[lament prairie]

||no a new one next patch - some kind of sd lightning weather I think?||

[lean steeple]

Idk, im lvl 80 and probably never breaking through, I only witness generic weather buffs

[open bone]

then yeah sena dps prolly never useful for you

badum will just steal it

or hle

[lament prairie]

Oh if you're camping masters forget it then nevermind xD

[lean steeple]

Not really camping, but im not that frequent of a player with a lot of sigless valks that I purely pulled for collection purposes. Catching up to those who hold even A3 would be a freaking hassle. Q-abyss is a bit more forgiving and allows me to brute force pretty much everything with one team and one more full gear valk

Same with arena

I dont have many P1 valks with gears either to compensate for lack of full gear p2 valks either

[open bone]

tbh arena in exalted in just better

even if ur stuck at 7% or whatever the rewards are way higher

[lean steeple]

Like pull wise or what?

I was told that pull wise difference between A3 and redlotus pre 81 is none

[open bone]

well it gives 40 extra crystals, it gives a prism which idr if masters does, and then a bunch more ancient legacy and willpower

oh I meant memorial arena

Abyss Exalted A3 should also be better

but if you're stuck in A2 it's worse

[lean steeple]

We do get one prism guaranteed if you do 13 stages

[lean steeple]

420 per rotation

In rl pre 81

[open bone]

yeah also 420 in exalted a3, just with a bit of extra AL

[lean steeple]

Al?

[open bone]

it's only a little more crystals tho so not like there's anything wrong with crystals

[lean steeple]

Whats that

[open bone]

ancient legacy

war treasury resources

[lean steeple]

Eh. Is the difference that big for it

To strive to get that

[open bone]

not really. I'm glad I broke through but thats because im bouncing nirv so I get way more crystals

[lean steeple]

Plus as I said, after trying on friends acc, I doubt that with my current roaster ill be able to tackle the content at all

[open bone]

who do you have?

[lean steeple]

And I wont get any extra crystals for MA either

[open bone]

Oh you can definitely get the extra crystals, 2 gacha valks is enough to get them

crystal reward threshold is super lax

in ma

if you can retain masters RL crystals from exalted MA def achievable

[lean steeple]

Hmm

I cannot attach screenshot

[open bone]

did you not get the captain role from rules channel

too many images at once

[red plank]

so thats how we decided to deal with it

[lean steeple]

Are you sure about that? The last time I tried ma during Rita's banner on my friends acc her boss was that shilly that I barely cleared its phase one in 3 minutes with full gear helia and vita A rank coralie at all

I have a feeling that bosses in exalted ma arent that easy

[red plank]

tho i saw a the same scam with only 2 images one time

so they're evolving

[lean steeple]

Didn't even know that one, maybe I missed it when reading the rules mb

[open bone]

crystal rewards are achievable from buffed mode scores if you have to

thats how low the score threshold is

any clear at all in unbuffed mode will work too\

even if it takes full time

[lean steeple]

Here. A rank helia, sparkle, sena vita and bfd are sigless

FB is Syn 1

[open bone]

Yeah you could definitely stay A3 if you wanted. Probably even RL bounce, and exalted MA crystals no problem.
Obviously you don't have to if you don't want to

but if you do want to it'd be fs doable

[lean steeple]

I dont even have anything for ignite weather tho

[open bone]

wait you're EU, not sea. Nevermind you could just stay rl

ignite weathers are rare

we get like 1 per patch

and tbh vita with fdd supp prolly retains some of them fine

[lean steeple]

Both are sigless tho...

[open bone]

oh. Badum or mei with fdd supp then

[lean steeple]

And I don't think I can backpull them anytime

[open bone]

yeah I wouldn't backpull them either

[lean steeple]

My only AoP is chen as of now

[open bone]

If you got an AOP even better

I was making that prediction with DS only

[lean steeple]

I didnt but decided to go for chen this patch

She ate a lot of crystals tho

But most of my teamcomps are variations of GoI anyway

[open bone]

Same hat, also got chen this patch too because I was too busy backpulling hofi dkey back then 😅

and then badum and hohe dkey in HLE patch

[lean steeple]

Uhh

[open bone]

but I was bouncing nirvana with just dreamseeker

[lean steeple]

Also. How many banners, festival aside, do valks get before getting Ascension one?

[open bone]

not really a question of number of banners, more about patches

[lean steeple]

Are you really doing that with just S0 and dreamseeker?

[lean steeple]

I need to SSS HLE, so I just weighing my chances

[open bone]

reign solaris got a billion banners and is getting as cthis patch and PS has only had like 2

[lean steeple]

Dont care about anything else

[open bone]

Yes, my first two times hitting nirvana were pure s0 no aops no elves

[lean steeple]

Hence my bfd and vita are basically in the graveyard unless they put their sigs in bp

[open bone]

Vita sig is probably in ||paid bp next patch||

[lean steeple]

I just dont feel like my account is enough for RL even lmao

[lean steeple]

Wait, is it? Not ||sparkle ||?

Who does she want as supports tho

Are her teams restricted to HoFi and bfd?

[open bone]

wait no sorry I misread, ||when they said next patch they meant next patch from CN where they're 1 ahead of us||

||sorry it's simp next patch mb||

Vita still needs 2 Roo. FDD, VBM, Hofi, pick 2

ideally fdd but hofi and vbm are pretty much the same

[lean steeple]

That is pure hell ngl

Ye shes forever relegated to be HoHe slave if I get her sig

[open bone]

I think you could absolutely get RL in exalted if you wanted to but it would probably be more work than retaining RL is in masters and only get you maybe 5 pulls a patch

[open bone]

Hohe doesnt want vita

[lean steeple]

Im not running her as carry ever lmao

[lean steeple]

Wait really

It doesn't change if vita is s2/SS?

[open bone]

HLE thelema usually. Rita also a good option depending on boss. Sena 4th

vita 5th best usually

[lean steeple]

Ye thats my main concern

Its much more hassle, for not so big of a payoff

[open bone]

Vita is really bad in WOD

[lean steeple]

Even at SS vita? Holy shes washed

[open bone]

yes. SSS+3 Vita sometimes loses to S0+1 sena

as a wod supp

not always tho

and obv ranked Vita has more uses than unranked

just, being slow can be very painful

[lean steeple]

Well...

Not ideal.

[craggy plume]

And DA:FL has no field time

[open bone]

Well u got Thelema HLE, that's often the best one

||and sena free next patch anyway||

[lean steeple]

I thought i could run hoh LP MPS
HLE and kiamei in arena

If I ever breakthrough

[open bone]

I mean you can run it! it works fine

[lean steeple]

This is tiresome then

[open bone]

it's just not bis

so you'lll score slightly worse

[lean steeple]

I have sena, just no sig

[open bone]

ah. ||her sig will be going to reserve works, 10 crystallum||

[lean steeple]

[open bone]

Basically when I say "not bis" here I mean "will be slightly slower and score a few points less" not "this doesn't work"

Vita still works in WOD

it's just if you have everything and are considering the absolute best option it's pretty much never her in WoD

[lean steeple]

Ye understandable

Im also wondering if your advice applies if most of my valks dont have their stigs maxxed in terms of subs

Mine mostly have like 35-37atk total at best

[open bone]

Not having stigs maxed is very painful, my Horb and Hohe- oh you mean affixes

normally we don't even suggest seriously affixing valkyries unless you're in RL

[lean steeple]

And I have no other modern dks aside from s1 FB

[open bone]

because in A3 the level of competition is low enough it doesn't matter

even if you have almost nothing

[lean steeple]

Affixes yes

[open bone]

and 37 per stig is plenty for RL

for instance my PS still has less than that on her stigs

[lean steeple]

Oh yes ..

Bleed weather my most hated

[open bone]

yeah bleed is probably the single most shill or die weather

everything else you can cope, even sd

[lean steeple]

Img weather?

[open bone]

people have retained rita dps shill with paws and vita last patch

in rl

and I got a RS shill with PS once

[lean steeple]

That is definitely interesting

I need to think over that and consider whether I want to grind that much for the rewards

[plucky gust]

is it me or is LV LoA support "Hold burst" bugged?

she's not doing damage on her LoA QTE

[open bone]

Could be a rank difference?

Or you failing to buff somewhere?

Can’t say without seeing your run

[plucky gust]

here's the run, sorry for the resets at the start, its kinda tricky to time it. . . but for the diff, its +2 on FDD and +3 on LV (ref), and i'm just +1 on all https://streamable.com/auv0j8

i refuse to awknowledge that dmg diff. on the ref, LV LoA QTE ends the first phase, compared to mine where mine just tickles. . . i expect at least this bar to be cleared on my LV LoA QTE, but nope. just 15% of that bar is my DPS

or am i overestimating LV LoA QTE damage?