💁gameplay-help

[formal wigeon]

nah, it only happens here if you mash both buttons

here if you want it in higher res
https://youtu.be/R8lI4-0HXug

it's 1 sec better but that's basically all in the ending killing faster

god the yt embed became so shit wtf

[shell quail]

everything is zoomed in

:3

[timber coyote]

faq!breakthrough

uhmm

!faq breakthrough

[half hatch]

faqs can only be used by profs or above, you can use the discord search function to dig up an faq or ask a professor to pull it up for you if it hasnt been used in the help channels yet

!faq breakthrough

[night parcel]

Breakthrough

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

• It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!

Also see !faq superstring regarding Exalted Abyss

[timber coyote]

ohh okay lol that makes sense 😭

thanks

[pearl grail]

whats better for mei xentinel, 11 crit rate or 17 atk

[craggy plume]

ATK, CRT is always terrible.

[pearl grail]

so whats the point of crt

[craggy plume]

It goes into the crit rate formula and get massively diluted to the point it changes nothing

[pearl grail]

so nobody needs crit?

[craggy plume]

Note that there are a lot of basically dead affix skills which you never want to see.

[pearl grail]

so basically the only affix that is useful is atk?

[craggy plume]

and yes no one wants crit on affixes. Crit dmg can be worth it at 5% or more for physical valks.

[formal wigeon]

none

[craggy plume]

Only physical valks can crit btw.

[pearl grail]

so if I have to choose between 5 crit damage and 17 atk which is better? for mei

[formal wigeon]

at lvl 80, it's 4.75 CRT for 1% crit

[craggy plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8SDcbEF2aI from here

[fierce bane]

is xdc meant to be missing sp if you only use badum ult and fdd wep+ult?

[rare iris]

Iirc, Chenxue has a skill locked behind 3S that also gives 300sp

Oh it's behind SS rather

[fierce bane]

she gives 120 at S and 320 at SS but i dont have her, forgot to say that

[craggy plume]

No

[rare iris]

Yeah, without Chenxue you need both supports' weap actives after qte

[fierce bane]

[rare iris]

Actually, idk if that also gives enough sp if you start with both supports first and use both of their weaps and ults before the goi dps in SO

When not running Chenxue

Assuming you saw my run on how I did p2 with SSS Chen, if I didn't do fdd weap there it will end up missing sp for mei later

[half hatch]

it depends a bit on which supports you're using tbh, with DS you're like one BA string away from getting 4 ults and if you need to do smth like badum WA that's prob slower, you can also do some CA cancels into her ult to get some extra SP

[rare iris]

Probably fine still on some cases since goi supports in SO hits hard as well if damage is crucial.

[vernal terrace]

[finite barn]

i dont understand how people are getting that reflect to charge up two xdc ults in p1 for this abyss boss

i dont think ive gotten it a single time ever... is there like. some sort of positioning thing i need???

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/uskPuzaU37g?si=6sK4M5S77JoxHJLb I have S Chenxue but only badum and Coralie; should I ult in p1 like the first vid or ult in p2?

[rare iris]

The parry?

[finite barn]

yeah the parry

[rare iris]

Haven't seen a run doing the parries in both phases tbh

It's mostly bruteforce for now with mei's sus anis and hold basic attacks

Parry/counter mechanic is completely ignored in the meantime

[finite barn]

its for energy

sorry my brain isnt working im forgetting all the right terms

[rare iris]

Isn't that in p2

[finite barn]

no theres definitely one in p1 too

[rare iris]

No it's just parry in p1

No Ari packs in p1 that p2 has

Do you mean a specific audio cue that you hear on Raven's first attack rather?

[finite barn]

in this ref that baroncount linked here? at 2:36 theres a point where xdc goes from nearly 0 sp before weapon active to 300 sp after and i'm pretty sure that's because of a parry? unless theres something else that happens here that im completely missing

im p sure the cn ref im watching says that its a parry but granted i dont actually know the proper nouns for this stuff in cn lmao im just guessing

but i cannot see what else could be happening here

[old musk]

What quest is this one

[finite barn]

idk ive been just waiting long enough during the alarm part so that i can hit the boss with the basic 3 but im in a position of trying to squeeze out like 2 extra points so i figure if i can get whatever's going on there i can fire off the first wa+basic3 faster during the alarm part

[finite barn]

its pinned in #👶beginner-help

[old musk]

Do I seriously have to finish the whole thing I-3

To finish the quest reward

[neon narwhal]

genealogical seat is like 40 mins into ch 1 of p2

[finite barn]

idk how far in it is /shrug

[vernal terrace]

It's only chapter 1

[old musk]

How long is it

[rare iris]

Nah it's still not a parry, it's the mechanic of the basic 3rd.

What's weird is that you aren't getting it, I need to see a record of your run not getting it

[last rapids]

rather than doing wep+basic to hit boss you can just do 2 full basic attack chains right from the moment you stab the mob, the sequence is perfectly timed to hit the boss on the last atk to give you the sp and you hold the atk to do the big stab

[finite barn]

WA->basic3 gives 300 sp normally???

[last rapids]

u dont really lose any time and its perfectly consistent

[finite barn]

ooh ok

[rare iris]

Yeah technically, and it's perfectly consistent in my whole 3S xdc run attempts in this boss at that certain point

[last rapids]

just spam attack until last atk of 2nd seq and hold

can stab on 974 if your opener is perfect

[finite barn]

is there a more consistent way of timing the opener besides "just vibe pause"

the double evade -> basic sequence sometimes isnt long enough to hit the mobs for me

[last rapids]

there is what i was doing and it was also perfect hit but my abyss closed

one sec

[rare iris]

Btw, check your Ari, if it's already lit up, it won't work since it did state during Ari charging = below 175

[last rapids]

see where you spawn, there is a line on the ground squares, walk forward(towards mob spawn so slightly to either left or right) and after you cross the first line just dodge once and start the basic sequence

[finite barn]

here

[last rapids]

combining those i was consistently getting 974 without trying to be precise in anything i do

literally it plays itself

[finite barn]

okey i'll do that ty

oo yeah that does work nice ty

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/_7b9qcA1mQ0 is there any way I could improve this run?

[rare iris]

Yeah that is weird but there's nothing to note about parrying there

[finite barn]

yeah idk whats going on here XD

its definitely not my weapon level right? i don't 65 my weapons but like it is pri'd and i dont see anything about sp regen on the weapon anyways

[finite barn]

you could do what euphie just told me for the opener? its faster by a handful of points

[formal wigeon]

damn you're still refusing to do that after all those years

[finite barn]

it amuses me!

[last hull]

Luna probably is never gonna be obtainable for free again for a long time right

[vernal terrace]

She'll be in WT eventually

Just not soon I believe

[last hull]

So the answer is yes it's gonna be years

[vernal terrace]

Maybe a year or two but I wouldn't know

[last hull]

They just added HH this patch right

Man I cant believe I missed a whole ass LV last patch Im still quite crushed by that tbh

[half hatch]

maybe keep an eye out for reserve work in the next 2-3 patches but getting her from there is also a bit expensive if you're not paying for the BP

[last hull]

It's 24 crystallum right?

I could maybe pull LV DKey and save my crystallum for her

Should I do that?

[vernal terrace]

Probably not

[last hull]

Not worth the cost?

Or is it because the DKey will have aged badly by then

[half hatch]

yeah
If you should do it is another question, while the +10 atk can be appreciated as a competitive player by the point LV is in reserve work/you can afford her, her use cases will probably have decreased a bit just based on recent dkeys. Imo she also isnt that outstanding, a nice pull if you got the funds but outside of ps/paws teams she seems to be rather okayish.
it also depends a bit on what you're planning to pull next patch but even if you're not going to pull everything a save patch is always nice

[half hatch]

both kinda, you'd want to prioritise the other dkeys in there first if you dont have all of them and she just doesnt seem that strong that she'd still have a decent usage rate in a few patches

[last hull]

If absolutely necessary to save my account I could spend some money, only if absolute necessary

Maybe only like a knight BP though

Also ||I would like to get SW Key, if that's something I ought to do||

But tbh I really dunno what I should do anymore

Other than get Mei

The game's changed so much from when I last played and it feels much harder to actually keep up or predict properly what will last and what will rot

[half hatch]

yeah i'd just go with || SW dkey tbh|| i dont really think that LV dkey would be an absolute account saver

[last hull]

||Im still kinda worried about that too tho tbh, WS and SW being old asf doesn't make me feel very confident either||

Worse, I actually don't have any P2 ice character with Rime Trauma

Im locked out of a few bosses with that ||even with SW key which Im afraid decreases the value further||

[half hatch]

|| i mean hoyo kinda seems to focus a bit on older rings with a new WS aop / WoD aop at SS and the stellar surplus state with rita and SW, hoyo can really just push what they want regardless of how old it is. Also just from what i've seen her dkey seems to be promising, activating stellar surplus for WS valks and she has a locked passive possibly for a future seele battlesuit since one of her passives already boosts elemental and phys dmg if seele is the leader but we currently only have a phys seele battlesuit.||
||ofc take this with a grain of salt but SW dkey looks fine atm ||

[vernal terrace]

||Mei's skill is still locked||

[last hull]

Might its value be much more diminished for me tho since I have neither Thelema nor HLE?

Ie, no Rime Trauma

||Also Youyun looks pretty big idk how as worth it SW will be without her AOp, which I cant pull cuz F2P||

[half hatch]

||imo not really, the only boss that i could think of where you'd really want rime trauma for her would be kalpas and the other points still stand||
|| youyun does seem to have quite a bit of value for WS units but you should be fine in RL without her nonetheless||

[last hull]

Alright then

[last hull]

Btw ab this, what should I do w my crystallum then? Just save em?

||SW ranks?||

[half hatch]

if you already have the dkeys yeah ||they're now adding p2 units into there with the next patch so maybe you can pick up something usefull in there from time to time who knows ||

[half hatch]

i'd just farm the via WT tbh

[last hull]

Already doing that

I was aiming for SS2 ideally by the end of the patch but idk if that will be possible (at S1 rn)

[cunning gull]

||maybe you'll get s2 to s3 WT and up to ss and on the way to ss1 if you use the 2026 selector (just do it later when you want the instant ranks||

[vernal terrace]

||Me who is thinking about getting SW either from box or buying her from WT, box is probably the fastest way||

[cunning gull]

||waiting to buy full card or getting the weekly frags from WT?||

[vernal terrace]

||Full card||

[last hull]

HoYo where tf is XY sword

Why did they make this weapon so hard to get

[cunning gull]

lol

[vernal terrace]

They like to gatekeep that one for some reason

[half hatch]

We can expect it to be in the next mini spending event based on recent patterns but yeah it's pretty rare

[vernal terrace]

If brick is in it, I'll likely choose unless I would have it before hand

[cunning gull]

it was in the 8.4 box with xys

possible future box? maybe

or it will just be added to reserve

[vernal terrace]

Likely

Brick outside of AF and FHD is my only regular DKey I'm missing that I can't exactly get as of right now

[cunning gull]

no worries, at least af and fhd are in reserve already
will take time but you're getting there

[vernal terrace]

I'm 2 away from getting one of them

[last hull]

When was the last HS weather run?

(DKey weather)

[vernal terrace]

HoS?

[last hull]

Yes

[vernal terrace]

Stun Flying Fish about a year ago in 8.1

[last hull]

8.1 💀

[cunning gull]

extreme flying fish (for PAWS) probably ended stun flying fish but there's still a chance that it can get one more run if brick is in reserve or something

[vernal terrace]

Or something else completely unless stun Flying Fish is Brick's only boss

[cunning gull]

well at least ppl used rs on that
type neutral for her tho
then paws rs but im pretty sure that's when the extreme version showed up
now xdc support for stun is also possible
i say support and not dps because of type down

[vernal terrace]

Yeah stun Flying Fish has not run after 8.1
Extreme Weather flying fish probably will run more often but that's if Hoyo stops rerunning fucking Sambo

[cunning gull]

🧴

[last hull]

What’s the requirements to keeping access to MA LITE

Idk I really do not feel like malding MA this cycle

[open bone]

Clear the stage

[last hull]

All of them?

[open bone]

On SSS

[vernal terrace]

Defeating the boss at SSS difficulty

[open bone]

No just rice cake

You can use buffed mode

[vernal terrace]

And Bke

[open bone]

But it has to be cleared

[last hull]

I DONT HAVE MEI YET TS IS ASS

[vernal terrace]

Or is it just one boss?

[open bone]

You can use buffed mode and FDD or vita

I think it’s just the amped boss

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[last hull]

No FDD or HFI

Im cooked

No Thelema either

[vernal terrace]

They returned I believe pretty recently

[open bone]

Who do you have? LOA should work fine

[last hull]

I do have Badum ig but I have no other direct LoA characters

So id be forced to go Badum Vita PAWS/JD

[open bone]

Badum Vita <third HShift character> should be fine

I’d save paws for BkE unless you have P1 Lightning in case u change ur mind. But Badum paws vita should also clear

Not a great score but like

Enough for crystals and lite with no malding

So nbd

[last hull]

I could use HoT but my PV isnt even fcking SSS

Or Zhenyi either

Im beyond cooked im burnt to ash

[open bone]

Paws should be fine then. Badum Vita Sonque in rice cake, paws and whoever else in BKE, should get crystals and be done in 1 run each boss <10 mins total irl

No need to mald for score

And then you’ll have lite next week

[vernal terrace]

[last hull]

Who else is GoI if Badum is elsewhere

[open bone]

Idk what your account has

If you post valk list I can give better advice

[last hull]

I do have HH but idr who else is Symb

Sena Lantern JD Eepy Vita Badum PAWS

HH Dkey

[open bone]

Can do paws HoHE vbm. A little cursed but whatever.

Don’t need to topscore anything

[last hull]

I guess

[open bone]

Could also do Badum JdS paws and use Vita for HC on BKE ig

Lantern Vita Sena maybe

Either way should be fine

[last hull]

Oh yea I could go lantern

[vernal terrace]

Lantern Vita Sena maybe?

[last hull]

Latern Eepy Sena so that I can still save Vita for Rice Cake

[vernal terrace]

Oh wait QT said that

[open bone]

I’d suggest paws on rice cake because BKe has a hitcount shield for lightning and it’d be a bit annoying to try and clear that with Sena / simp. Could work tho

Like it should be fine I’d just get a lil annoyed if it was me

[last hull]

Ill give it a go and see how it does

[open bone]

Gl

[vernal terrace]

Especially when you get stabbed by her

[last hull]

If it's too annoying Ill swap to Vita

[vernal terrace]

Though Rice Cake is worse than BKE

[fair dawn]

i only have lv dk and badum sld i go for sushang or helia i love them both

[last hull]

WAit wtf

BKE hitcount shield doesnt get hit by ranged dmg?

[open bone]

If you love them by all means you can go for them, it’s not advised meta wise but

[open bone]

It’s lightning damage only

So you gotta use Sena

[last hull]

OH

[vernal terrace]

^

[fair dawn]

which one dawg

[open bone]

Or vita that’s why I was suggesting her

[open bone]

Well if you have crystals rn I would go for paws since you get 20 free pulls for her banner

[vernal terrace]

Vita has HC to an extent

[open bone]

If you don’t have crystals then it depends on which runs first once you have crystals

Yeah vita can clear hitcount shields fast

[last hull]

Ok ts feels like ass Im going Vita

HOLY SHT RICE CAKE FEELS SO BAD

[open bone]

Yeah it’s extreme shill. That’s why I reccomended buff mode

[vernal terrace]

Rice Cake is like Paros in MA
Very much shilled for the Valk they released with

[last hull]

Shamefully pathetic but idgaf anymore

[vernal terrace]

It is what it is

At least you'll have lite

[last hull]

At least there's 1 place where Im on the leaderboard lmao

[old musk]

So it says I got 10 pulls left until s rank Mei but like what’s the pity ;-;

[spiral raven]

90

[old musk]

What’s soft pity

[cunning gull]

barely existent

but no 50/50

[old musk]

So i gotta grind 10 more spins ;-;

[cunning gull]

yes

at worse

[old musk]

What content is there for me

[vernal terrace]

It's supposedly there but nothing confirmed by Hoyo themselves

[old musk]

What contents there for me to grind 10 spins decently quickly

[cunning gull]

#👶beginner-help message
you don't do all that, just pick something from here to start with

main notable one is elysian realm

[old musk]

What part of elysian

[cunning gull]

mainly deep and shallow sequence
also the story part itself if you didn't complete it
and achievements

[old musk]

Kay

[obsidian inlet]

hi everyone i returned after 1 and a half years. does anybody have any suggestions? i had 40k crystals when i returned and i used them for meis new battlesuit + weapon
lunas new divinekey and ofc elys new skin even tho i dont have the battlesuit yet. im also trying to get dragon coralie. how much crystals we get per patch

[finite barn]

Depends on your abyss rank

I personally got almost exactly 98 pulls in crystals and cards last patch as a red lotus player, altho I dropped into agony 3 like twice probably because I forgot to play a couple abyss cycles

This patch will ofc give more than average amount of pull-equivalents because it's cny patch

Actually maybe 88 I don't remember how many cards I got from hitting a cumulative login milestone

[last hull]

Should I save the boxes in case, or should I use em for prisms?

[obsidian inlet]

i thought any monthly player could get the new valk with equipments

[cunning gull]

save

[finite barn]

Maybe? Idk how much monthly gives I'm poor

Altho average pulls for valk+weapon is apparently 102 or something like that so like I wouldn't be surprised if monthly pass is enough to push people to that threshold

Assuming rng doesn't screw you over ofc

[obsidian inlet]

102 is very generous

it depends and changes a lot yeah..

[fair dawn]

anybody have er guide for lv dk

[vernal terrace]

Rentry has both ARC and SO builds

[twilit sparrow]

who do i put in 2 and 3

[open bone]

For FDD dps? VBM second. And then nobody third, because you don’t have Hofi or paws or Vita, but I guess you could try someone like sparkle as a mega cope option

What boss is this

probably another dps is better

[twilit sparrow]

its this

[open bone]

I’d go HLE FDD Luna

[twilit sparrow]

ok so do i save for vita rerun

[open bone]

No

[twilit sparrow]

ok thanks

is this rotation okay

[bleak blade]

is it worth getting lv stamp

[craggy plume]

A single stamp does nothing as it is only 10 fragments

[naive shoal]

how do i do this?

[lament prairie]

Go up to the lantern release area and you can dance, I did it by dancing with senti

[fair dawn]

i have luna dk and badum all geared who shld i go for next?

[indigo crown]

whats the difference between damage taken by enemies % and total damage dealt % (how are they calculated and which one is more 'global' as in is calculated at the very end of the equation)

[solemn tartan]

damage taken = enemies take more damage
total damage dealt = your valks do more damage

they're both part of damage calculation and are multiplicative, though damage taken tends to be rarer

[latent stream]

Does my pity is still there when the rotation happens? (Carnival Banner)

[craggy plume]

Yes it lasts until the carnival banners leave

[crude cloak]

Mei + weap if you can afford that

After that just save until the next patch

[cunning gull]

sci (eepy teri) is passive in WoD teams so u don't need to switch to her at all
also start the rotation with support buffs so hle's (elysia) weap and hold ult
then mse's (rita) qte > weap > hold attack > weap
then you alternate between full attack sequence and weap and doing evasion > weap > attack weap

normally you press weapon when it flashes

consider learning and testing out in the tactic class, the stellar outburst rotation is also there

[solar sparrow]

Guys, which team is good for chenxue?

[steady osprey]

its based on "ring", and chenxue is dedicated for "Grail of Infinitude" and "Rite of Oblivion" rings. the rings are decided by the 1st slot valk (dps)

as u can see in the pic, LV with new stellar key is belong to "Grail of Infinitude" ring, put her in slot 1, the team will activate that ring, then chenxue will support them well

part 2 Astral Ring mechanics actually requires some learning to understand

but not too complicated

[solar sparrow]

thank u

[steady osprey]

u can also check here

chenxue isnt very good for "wheel of destiny", this team as example

[dusky mantle]

i see

[vocal veldt]

people im returnee and i got no ice valk what do i do now

who do i brute force cope with

[open bone]

What Valkyries do you have?

You could use any strong lightning or physical dps that you have a full team for but idk what your account has

[vocal veldt]

i saw it also got phys res so i think i gotta unironically pull up the senadina

[craggy plume]

Also depends on which bracket you are in.

[vocal veldt]

darn me i only pulled fire valks until now

[open bone]

Yeah Sena Badum Hofi / mei probably your best bet

Since you don’t have supports for Mei anyway

[craggy plume]

It has res to everything because it is old as hell and the base numbers are low.

[open bone]

Mei would be fine if you had supports but Mei Badum Hofi is not it

[vocal veldt]

also question if i don't have any astral op yet, do i use kiana elf or is the free op better?

[open bone]

Kiana Elf is situationally better if she's at least 3*

but dreamseeker also quite good

2* kiaelf just bad

for this specific abyss you probably want SSS dreamseeker tho

because Benares is typeless and dreamseeker is strong vs typeless enemies

[faint lichen]

Helooo
What should i buy here?

[open bone]

!faq spendguide

[night parcel]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[faint lichen]

Ohhh thankyouu

[last hull]

Gonna use VQ in ER this week since idrk who else to use, is this build good?

[violet horizon]

Any refs for this abyss?

[craggy plume]

For what ? RL

[queen canyon]

whose best to choose from free pre6.3 srank? i have hoS ,horb hohe and hoT but wondering if silverwing nex would be worth it or someone else is better

[open bone]

Probably Silverwing yeah ||because she’s getting a dkey next oatch||

||though if you don’t plan to pull you can just grab whoever||

[queen canyon]

ok thanks

[violet horizon]

Yes please

[craggy plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPzQs6xH-gM

[violet horizon]

Thank you

[violet horizon]

Geez the gap from dreemsekker and Chen for this one is big

[open bone]

Yeah the tankier the enemy is the more Chenxue’s better cycles become useful

[violet horizon]

This dragon too tanks but thankfully my SS songque is helping with ar a bit

[placid acorn]

Would an S2 MPS best team (I don’t have vita) be Senadina and HLE? Feel like I’m playing her wrong

[plush kernel]

Who to pull? Will there be Sparkle? (she is the only character im missing) Who is the best to upgrade?

[craggy plume]

See pins in #👶beginner-help there is no info about a Sparkle rerun

[last hull]

Anyone?

[rigid cedar]

if you don't have any other aladdin stigs, this is great

[rigid cedar]

oh yeah, make sure that dirac b actually triggers

[last hull]

Alright tyyy

[last hull]

I guess tho if I go Dirac I have to go ult style?

[rigid cedar]

yeah

but this is signature weapon on your sus right?

if so, you'll be fine

and for dirac b, maybe go for sakura 2

with reduced eva cooldown enhancement

[hot silo]

streamer ely is my leader here. My badum dont have signature but herrscher ely 4/4 and mei is also 4/4 which 3 valks do you guys recommend I use

[crude cloak]

Rita HLE is better

But only if you get max Surplus

[formal wigeon]

nah that's purana

either way it's ER so it's fine

[last hull]

No this is Purana

[rigid cedar]

okay still not the worst

[last hull]

I should go Kalpas2 Sakura2?

[lilac mango]

So I have all of these 4 with all the gear, and they're base S rank. With the potential of getting a copy of one of them from the Carnival Supply, which one do you think would be more valuable?

In terms of Supports, would extra ranks on Coralie, or Vita provide more value? Thanks for any insight.

[mortal jetty]

Coralie

[rigid cedar]

FDD Coralie is best, because her support use is much more present than any of the other valkyries right now.
Vita is barely played, only on WoD as a cope and on WS.
PAWS only has DPS upgrades, does find play and you would only benefit her lead teams.
FWS gets very minor support buffs, linked enemy dmg ratio increase and generally more DPS gains that are kinda meh when HLE already took most of her bosses

[lilac mango]

Gotcha, thanks

[obsidian inlet]

hey yall does anybody know why it says im inputting wrong data? which uid should i put in

[crude cloak]

There's no beta rn

This registration is specific to each beta version

[crude cloak]

No EN beta that is, CN has a different process afaik

[obsidian inlet]

why?

the thing is it says wrong data to me T-T

[crude cloak]

Because it's not a permanently available thing?

[obsidian inlet]

ohhh you mean i missed the registration date

[crude cloak]

Yes, because the database of accs is empty (because there's no beta yet)

[obsidian inlet]

tysm ^^ also which id we should put in there?

[crude cloak]

Just the one from your in-game profile

[obsidian inlet]

the one starts with 205 ?

[crude cloak]

It doesn't start with 205 for everyone, but yes

[obsidian inlet]

yesyes ik

tysm ^^

[jade zephyr]

is thelema gen the best against benares? what supports should I use with her?

[craggy plume]

HLE,FDD,HoHe should be the best team here.

[last hull]

Although any decently invested ice team should work fine

*Though it may not get you the retain, depending on your bracket

[old musk]

How do I play kianas flame form I forgot the name

[obsidian inlet]

herscher of flamescion?

[last hull]

Which one

Herrscher? Badum?

[old musk]

Herrsched

[old musk]

Ya

[last hull]

Oh she's pretty simple

[old musk]

How do I get her animation stuff

[last hull]

Rotation will depend on what ur actually doing or how much you will actually need to kill a wave or boss, but the simplest general rotation I can give is

[sturdy vortex]

Uh, how do i progress further than this? All 3 rooms are maxed except for pets that idk how to get
and dont mind the dorm organization, idc about making a beautiful dorm i just want the onigiri

[last hull]

QTE > Hold ATK (finger snap) > AA till overheat bar depletes > Charged ATK (blackhole) > AA till overheat bar depletes again (throw in WA somewhere in there) > Charged ATK (blackhole) > Ult (hold the button)

[old musk]

Usually I’m doing q fold or elysian

[old musk]

uhm whats aa and wa again i lowk forgot (took a year break)

[last hull]

Auto attack

[last hull]

WA is weapon active

[last hull]

A very basic rotation is smth like this

In the simplest of terms, HFS’s gameplay revolves around this Overheat bar above the HP bar. Basically, Overheat is a mechanic that prevents a certain action(s) from being constantly used or spammed in battle

[sturdy vortex]

?

[last hull]

In this case, said move is her charged attack (the blackhole)

When the bar depletes, the restriction to casting it is removed and you can use it again

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/viK030i82yw What can I do to improve this run?

[cursive adder]

Just buying furniture you still dont own will increase the comfort

[sturdy vortex]

wait, i thought u had to place it to get comfort, thats weird
but thanks

[sturdy vortex]

so u just want 2400 comfort and stop there as soon as u get to that?

[quasi pier]

nah, you just have to own it

[quasi pier]

yeah

[sturdy vortex]

i c, thanks!

makes a lot more sense now

[cursive adder]

Buying stuff you already own will give you less btw.

[heady jungle]

I can lvl senti if needed but to do the current deep sequence who should i use/ what signets should I go for? is there a content creator I could follow n read on? these are my 4 phys battlesuits I do have stygian nymph as well

[onyx swallow]

https://youtu.be/d7hOX-R2u2g?si=IQ6noyQCziw-EnpM

Choosing 60 fps ingame+recording just comes out jittery
Other than me underestimating the last arrow and releasing it a bit early what can i improve
777 is my highest score yet

[onyx swallow]

There is a website in the pins that has the signets for the valks etc
Idk if thats what you looking for but do check it out

[heady jungle]

oo tyty

[old musk]

Don’t got her weapon tho

[elfin parrot]

This is false. Buying a dupe will still give you the same amount of comfort the furniture is worth but only if you have the space for it to count and if it's better than everything else you currently have.

You can think of your current total comfort as a measure of max potential. While you don't have to put anything down, it basically counts the highest comfort items you own up to the limits of your current renovations.

As an example if my dorm room can hold a max of 3 large furniture and I currently own none, buying 1 bed or something with 100 comfort will give me 100 comfort. I would be able to do for 3 beds until i renovate to increase that max limit.

Now let's say i'm at this 3 max, but i find another bed that is worth 150 comfort. I buy one. The 3 max still applies but the lowest value comfort unit is kicked off. So now the total comfort that is counted is just 350 (150+100+100)

[jade zephyr]

Do i need a breach support for my wod team? The only breach i have is fdd
||I do want to get silverwings dkey if possible, so world star team as well. I see that sena is being added to reserve works next patch so I could get her from there or just wait for vita in a gacha||

[opal cradle]

returnee player
how bad are modern valks without their signature weapons?

i have her full stigmata set

[jade zephyr]

Weapon is considered necessary for everyone

[opal cradle]

ic

[jade zephyr]

They give big damage buffs as well as some useful qol/utilities sometimes

[opal cradle]

do you think i could at least use her in ER or should I wait? im at 25 pulls till guarantee*

[jade zephyr]

It might be best to farm her upgrades in the shallow sequence first (as you can use a trial, built valk for that) just to ensure she has enough buffs

[half hatch]

You don't necessarily need a breach support, it really depends on the boss and oftentimes you'll just run hle+Rita these days, || Sena is also being given away for free next patch so there is no need for you to buy her from reserve work ||

[jade zephyr]

Oh okay. ||does world star team need either of them?||

[onyx swallow]

[half hatch]

|| from what I've seen from recent calcs SW + Horb seems to be the general highest DPS combo for world star teams but we'll really just have to see how the live version turns out, in the end everything is still subject to change atm. It will also really depend on the boss but generally I think it's fair to assume that not having vita for WS teams should be okay, there have been quite a bit of WS bosses in the past where you just didn't use vita because you didn't need the DMG and she was too slow||

Generally I think the idea of needing a breach support is a bit redundant these days and often times other team comps come close/perform better

[vernal terrace]

||We definitely need a quicker WS breach support||

[half hatch]

Hoyo does have their fair share of history trying to push breach with some passives on valks but the difference still wasn't enormous

[jade zephyr]

This is all good to know thank you sm

Unfort I didnt get horb dkey but we move🙂‍↕️

[half hatch]

FWS will probably be not that far off from Horb +1, the calcs also have relatively highly ranked valks/syncs and Horb syncs are quite good for WS teams

[vernal terrace]

Buffing reso DMG

[half hatch]

So we'll have to see how sync 1 Horb and FWS will compare but I doubt it'll be that huge of a diff

[vernal terrace]

FWS > HoRb?
Or FWS = HoRb?

[half hatch]

Tbh I don't really know at sync 1 lmao, iirc it was really situational who was better for some fights

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[half hatch]

Well that's just how this game is, I feel like 90% of the time someone asks who's better between two valks I just have to tell them it's situational

[vernal terrace]

True

[onyx swallow]

How does s1 hle do

[half hatch]

From what I've seen she's a solid WS just a bit slow in SO, should be fine though

[jade zephyr]

Im not an expert on rotations but
During so you usually combo atk with Mei & then do her weapon ult finisher

[half hatch]

No need to do that as a hle support, xdc's ult finisher restores SP and shining trace and since hle can go into SP depth just the ult of both Symb supports is enough

[vernal terrace]

Rot for this team for this cycle?

[narrow snow]

Hello, I was wondering which teams I could use for Thelema

[half hatch]

The hle basics at the start are kinda useless since you'd restore some SP with her qte anyway so you should be able to just start with one of your supports

Then maybe try to do a whole basic attack string in SO after your second hle WA x 2 ult and then exit SO, maybe that lets you skip the awkward BAs after your first ult outside of SO

[narrow snow]

Somehow I cannot send images

[vernal terrace]

Captain, get the captain role in #rules-en

[half hatch]

Have you tried to search a bit on bili yet

[vernal terrace]

Not yet

[half hatch]

I assume this means you don't really know how p2 Team building works ? Or are you asking who'd be better among your support options

[narrow snow]

I mean, I was in this server previously, just that I dropped, anyway, back to the topic, which combo's do y'all recommend for Thelema?

[narrow snow]

That

I really am short on options now that I'm back

F2P thelema mostly

[half hatch]

What other p2 characters do you have and what abyss rank are you in ? Because no weapon on thelema is a bit rough

Generally you always want to pull a valk with their weapon

[onyx swallow]

I tried just starting with luna but when i rotated back to hle her first ult without weapon skill wasn't able to lock on the crab

So i just did the ba string to pass enough time
As for the ba during so ill try that!

[narrow snow]

Coralie, Helia, Kiana festive, Kiana Finality, Vita, the rest have no weapons or are lacking

[half hatch]

In general for your thelema team vita/Sena would be your best options but as I've mentioned it's a bit rough with weaponless thele

[half hatch]

Then try vita/hofi/a rank Coralie

Vita is a solid bruteforcer so she's prob your best option for now

[narrow snow]

Damn, wanted to use Thelema

Oh well, off I go, priority is surviving and that Mei weapon

[keen jacinth]

would it be better to get new mei’s wep or luna’s dk first?

[spiral raven]

dk expires soon

so if u can get both, dkey first

[cunning gull]

have a lot of funds? dk then blade
don't have funds? blade
u really wanna grab mei's sig

[patent night]

if I spend all my crystals for Luna dk now do you guys think I will have enough time to save for the new valk + gear in 8.9 ?

or do I skip

[open bone]

||there is no new valk next patch. If you spend all your crystals for Luna now you can afford dkey next patch, but maybe not dkey and SS aop if you decide you want that||

[jade zephyr]

next patch is 8.8 though right? they asked abt 8.9

[vernal terrace]

||Tbh we don't know anything for 8.9, CN ain't that far yet||

[open bone]

yes. But their 8.8 plans are relevant for 8.9

||if they're just getting dkey next patch they can afford valk + wep 8.9, if they're getting dkey and ss aop mabe not, like I said||

[patent night]

alrr thank you for the answer!!

[jade zephyr]

ohh okay. i just misunderstood your wording

[open gull]

Can i have smw’s invitation code pls

[spiral raven]

11911223DF

[open gull]

Thanks

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087728190539169892/1393161179311898634/1752022405459.gif

[vernal terrace]

[spiral raven]

poor man's last resort

[vernal terrace]

Smh

[dusky mantle]

Oh right invi code

Time to bust out the alts

[vernal terrace]

[dusky mantle]

🙂

[cursive adder]

Ooohh, okay so thats why i gain random comfort when doing renovation x)

Does this mean that my only way to reach 6300 comfort is to do renovation? because at a certain point buying dupes wont give me comfort anymore.

Using the beds example: if i have 3 beds of 150 comfort (which is the max worth of comfort a bed can have, in this example) then my only way to increase the comfort is a 4th large furniture slot.

[hot silo]

which team is better??? i dont have badum signature tho

[open bone]

Hohe is better even with badum sig

for this abyss

well maybe not at S ig

I can't downgrade mine to check

but definitely without sig

[hot silo]

i checked badum astral ring and her skills IDK WHAT buff she does omg- no shadee

i might have to bench this girll

[open bone]

Badum has great buffs

they're on her stigmas

and she's very fast to apply them

[hot silo]

OH!

[open bone]

but hohe has strong personal damage

for ice abyss

so her ults do sub dps

[hot silo]

Ohhh

thank you for that monarch

[open bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPzQs6xH-gM&t=162s here's a ref for how hohe is used

tho it's fdd over mei

so you'll have to adjust a lil

[hot silo]

Thank u so much 🙏🏼 🩷

[hybrid ingot]

is that a real playable deck?? it seems too op

[boreal eagle]

u need to destroy it only 2 times

is trash

[hybrid ingot]

idk man, that guy has 10k score and he gets 3 point from his first turn alone

[open bone]

it's a very feast or famine deck

if you highroll it can go far but

I wouldn't say it's great

[vernal terrace]

Hyperion?

[open bone]

yeah

[vernal terrace]

Ah

Tbh also it's a big target

[slender pebble]

Hey so I got Mei (no weapon yet but 14 until pity), my team is Mei Elysia and Coralie Dragon, I'm just not really sure how to use the team, like what rotation ^^'

[open bone]

Mei dps or elie dps

?

[slender pebble]

Mei dps
Is the other way around worth doing though?

[open bone]

Sure, for instance on ice content or sd enemies or lightning abyss or psy enemies

Anyway what you’ll want to do for Mei dps is go hle, weapon active just as the first enemy spawns into holt ult, qte fdd, enhanced wa ult, go mei and dps wa into basics or basic sequence to get 150/300 sp, ult to gain stacks, combo at 2 stacks and then twice at 4)

However on Mei abyss there’s often bio mobs to start

So if it’s Mei shill instead of brute force you can start with basic attacks so the last hit lands just as they spawn

Getting you 150 sp

Then ult combo combo combo

To instantly kill them

FDD buffs with her ult, which needs her enhanced wa, which needs qte or the full basic sequence to hit

Hle buffs via either qte (fast way) or sea hold ult (supplies stellar drain)

—-

For HLE dps you’ll usually want to start with either Mei or FDD basics sequence so the last hit goes right as they spawn

And then ult if it’s Mei or enhance wa ult for Dracolie

And then switch in the other one

With HlE her infield sequence looks like WA hold ult if wants ready and basics into hold ult if it isn’t

[slender pebble]

Thank you I'll screenshot this and try this around when I'm back on the game ^^

[open bone]

You’re welcome. Also just fixed a typo oops

[elfin parrot]

yes this is correct.

Renovations do need comfort too. It can reach a point where you can't make progress anymore until you get beach dorm for more space to put down furniture (not recommended overall since that costs crystals for no real meta gain)

[cursive adder]

I bought that years ago haha
Thanks 🤝

[wooden patrol]

How's 824 in d478 A3?? I don't know if this is still low buti think this is the best I can do. surely I can get like at least top 6...? I need to promote to rl fr (no HoHE So I'm doing HLE, XDC, FdD

[open bone]

What aop

Dreamseeker?

[wooden patrol]

ye

[open bone]

Probably could get a few more points but doesn’t seem outrageously wrong

I’d have to see the run to say more

I’d try to avoid resting on my laurels tho this is a pretty easy boss so less of your bracket will be skill issues than normal

And Ely simps are always a risk

[pine hatch]

how are you supposed to claim the celebration delicacy? it says i missed yesterday's but i only see an option to submit

[open bone]

There will be a popup above the table

You click on it

[pine hatch]

ohhh ty i kept trying to interact with it

[wooden patrol]

is it ok if i wait it out and come back if I think i need to do

[open bone]

Sure. Though some people end up forgetting so try to avoid that

[wooden patrol]

oh dw, i set up timers on my phone for these specific situations, yes i do that, yes

[normal crane]

Is there any vid for this team on the current abyss?

[open bone]

No, people mostly used FDD HoHE.

You can try looking at this tho https://medal.tv/clips/mk6nLzF5TJpFavBw-

But it’s only gonna be borrowing the intro

[normal crane]

i have thelema as well. Will shr work?

[open bone]

Since it’s a nirv ref

[normal crane]

ye i can work around it

[open bone]

No thelema is worse

It’s HLE > HoHE > thelema

Tho SSS +3 HoHE beats S0+1 HLe

[normal crane]

I don’t have HoHE aop

So ig i will go with the medal vid

[open bone]

You’re running dreamseeker?

[normal crane]

Yes

[open bone]

Hmm ref is going to be doubly troublesome since it’s chenxue then

[lapis raven]

rl?

[normal crane]

Agony 3

[lapis raven]

even better, sec

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EeZCBwEmZ

roughly follow this

[lapis raven]

its not the same team which is why i said roughly, but u can just replace the hh parts with the fws parts like i did here

u can probably skip the first SO tbh, since ago 3 is probably like 490d

i can try to get a run on na rl since the d there is low enough

[normal crane]

I see

[normal crane]

The refs helped a lot thx guys

Spiked to 1st somehow

[boreal eagle]

should i hit benares with rita wa at spawn to apply buff?

[lapis raven]

wp bro

[lapis raven]

sss+3 hh thel?

[boreal eagle]

yes

[lapis raven]

skip

[boreal eagle]

and rita in team

[lapis raven]

use thel on the opening part

[boreal eagle]

im trying to invent a rot

[lapis raven]

oh ok i was gonna link u a ref

here it is anyw, check it when u want some ideas
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GrZTBDEt6

my hint for u is that rita eva wa isnt needed there

u shd be rushing to get into SO instead

[boreal eagle]

ok i think i need 3 AO

1 for mob two for benares

[lapis raven]

yea, short, med, long

[last hull]

Which of these is easiest or quickest to do?

I desperately need crystals and Prisms

[craggy plume]

Born from a dream was decently fast but none of those are particularly fast crystal wise.

[last hull]

Man

[eager dawn]

How do you play Thelema? I'm confused about her astral ring

[nova root]

what team do i use for current abyss, cuz im either bad or thelema doesnt do well

[last hull]

Got HLE or HH DKey?

Thelema can still work, depending on ur team invest and abyss rank

If you’ve got neither tho I think you might have to go Thelema

[nova root]

check honkai chat

[last hull]

PAWS is also an option for bruteforce but I really dunno how well she’d do at higher ranks

[willow herald]

So who are Sushang's new best supports

coralie and luna?

[last hull]

It will depend on the boss and situation, tho I think Luna would be used in most situations

Don't quote me on that tho I dont have either

[jade zephyr]

by her astral ring, do you mean how to play her during stellar outburst?

[eager dawn]

Yeah pretty much

[jade zephyr]

its mostly just farming the banquet stacks for her moment of indulgence. then you can cast your ultimate at any time after that, and itll refresh the stacks. This is from marisa honkais thel video guide when she first released

[steady osprey]

first thing 's first, i wanna make sure that u watched and understood what they do in these stages, yes?

[eager dawn]

I followed the tutorial, but I feel like she doesn't do a lot of damage.

[elfin parrot]

wow i actually think that marisa image is mostly fine. The only thing i would add to point 3 is that you can aim for 2 ults in outburst. One early and one towards the end but there can be exceptions to that

[jade zephyr]

thelema has a mechanic where she does an extra bonus damage hit after her moment of indulgence when you use all 3 of her attack types (basic, weapon, combo) so just try to use all of them

[elfin parrot]

#👶beginner-help message and here's a more conversational but deeper talk i had with someone else about thelema here

scroll above that linked post for advanced video guides too

[eager dawn]

Thanks y'all

[elfin parrot]

do keep in mind thelema is quite old by now. It's not abnormal to find her weaker than newer releases, especially if you're using her in situations not suited to her (edit: i guess this abyss boosts her but unless you have her hyper invested, newer ice options are probably better?)

and furthermore older players have her ranked now, at the very least due to a past spending event. We also had past raffles and carnivalsthat could've given her out for free to those who were lucky. Light spenders also could get her fragments from past bp and top up events.

[glacial falcon]

Which carnival banner should I go for if the only part 2 characters I have are sparkle and the new mei?

[craggy plume]

FWS as she has both domain resonance and Symbiosis

[glacial falcon]

Is that the kiana that's rerunning soon?

[craggy plume]

yes, Fiery Wishing Star

[last hull]

@dull sphinx What Ego and nexus do I get for VQ? (Ult build)

Also should I go LE or SA for VQ?

[fiery belfry]

Is there a way to get Rozaliya's Fervent Tempo Δ?

[open bone]

You can get Molotov cherry from war treasury and then you just need the augment cores. They’re available in open world missions for instance

[steady osprey]

yeah it is very heavy grinding, up to 6th augment at SSS rank, unless u like her a lot

[last hull]

I don't have Trio or RS or ME, am I forced to use HTR dps for Husk?

[open bone]

Do you have any geared P1 options like TA Horb PE?

Can also just try LoA dps with peregrine sword

LoA always strong

[last hull]

PE's 0/4

No PS

[open bone]

Paws?

[last hull]

I got PAWS

[open bone]

Could try her. Shes got lots of time fracture

[last hull]

PAWS Badum XDC?

[open bone]

If you don’t need Badum for Paros sure

Can also try Badum leader there

[last hull]

My LoA is kinda... lacking

I was thinking of just running JD there

[open bone]

No HLE for Paros?

[last hull]

Unfortunately not

[open bone]

Hmm. What’s your full P2 valk list

[last hull]

Sena LDS Eepy Vita Badum PAWS

HH DKey

And JD

[open bone]

Oh I thought you had jds

Oh you do

[last hull]

Lmfao I forgot

[open bone]

Okay yeh rough. Hmm

[last hull]

Yea my account is pretty shiet ngl

Haven't been really careful with what I do w it

And the long breaks dont help either

JD Sena LDS for Paros and PAWS XDC Badum for Bull?

Or should I use Bita over LDS

[open bone]

Could try

• Badum JDS Vita Paros
• Paws XDC HoHE husk
• LDS Sena Simp for HoV

Can also try swapping XDC and paws maybe

[last hull]

JD is too old to be a decent dps option?

[open bone]

She’s usable but Badum can 853

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1WmqzB5Esg

Tho with vita over ME score will be a little different

[steady osprey]

Wheelchair of Destiny is... not very good for MA

[open bone]

Other than Thelema ofc

[last hull]

Erm I only have SQ, no Teri

How much worse will my score be?

[last hull]

Oh that makes sense actually when I think ab it

Also did they patch fish skip w JD?

[vernal terrace]

Yes

Fishing gone

[half hatch]

yeah like once fish skip got to CN it was patched fast

also like twice cuz it also worked with eva or smth

[vernal terrace]

Machine gun got immediately patched

[open bone]

Probably somewhere around 700?

Then

Not sure

[last hull]

I just gotta try it out myself then I assume

[open bone]

Loa still good with no Teri but obv Teri strong

Yeah

[last hull]

I think I might have to stick to PAWS cause XDC with no Badum or FDD is kinda

[open bone]

I’d guess she was better anyway I’m just not completely certain

[last hull]

Unrelated but I still find it pretty whack that Avogadro is not available in the Exchange Shop

I wanted to use SpA for HoV except I have no Avo for the damn kill

Man every SS MA strat needs Avo

[steady osprey]

u can craft them, why make it more difficult

[last hull]

I am

I dont have enough G3 or mirage tickets anymore tho

[steady osprey]

if exchange shop it is even harder as now u need to craft stig and salvage for resonance

[last hull]

Sure but like it's convinient when you do have to buy stigs that way

I dont see why Avo shouldn't be in there

It's not like it's brand new and shiny or anything

[steady osprey]

no. bcs now in part2 the quickest way to get resonance is by salvaging mirage stigs

or get lucky in dorm pull

or salvage reserve stig but who would do that

[spiral raven]

well, its good but also its a 5 year old stig, so its common everyone has it

same thing as newt b and ppm

[steady osprey]

and yeah u can farm 240 resonance /week

i actually forgot we can get 6000 resonance by farming OW for 25 weeks

[last hull]

I bought CezanneT a few weeks ago so now I really dunno what to do with my remaining 3000 resonance

I guess I could wait and buy some pieces of Aladdin? But atp I really doubt how useful that would be to my acc and Aladdin is craftable anyways

[spiral raven]

just cuz its craftable from foundry doesnt mean its bad to get it from exchange shop

saves u ether fuel

if u scarce on dat

meant avo, u should get ur avo

[last hull]

Yea Im gonna craft Avo first dw

[steady osprey]

to start with, i wanna know how u gonna get the 6000 resonance for exchange shop

[last hull]

I got 3000

For the other 3000, there's probably some old stigs and weapons lying around that aren't really useful to me anymore

It's not ideal, but given the state of my account, if worst comes to worst I can scrap them for materials

[steady osprey]

yeah i actually did something like that and now i want those weapons as collection but not worth wasting my balls on their reserve shop, im actually regret doing that now

[open bone]

I’m almost to 200 grey g4, avo or cez first

[last hull]

Really trying to resist the urge to get DW rn, especially since I have her weapon

[steady osprey]

some weapon like sunfire GS, 7th relic, 3rd relic, tyr, chiyou

also some stig like nobel, wilde, sin mal

a set of jixuanyuan

[spiral raven]

no idea what u hab exactly
its just whichever one u have more usage
p1 thel is a pretty good ig which wants cez b on pardo, if ur doing only the ca on pardo with jst tm
otherwise pardo can also do avo tm and newt b, lol

[steady osprey]

hmm maybe i would think about spending my 25k reso

[last hull]

I have a ColumbusT AichanT and ZenoB that I could scrap (not dupes, just random one ofs)

Scrap Columbus and Zeno?

Or all three

[open bone]

I have Turg TB Mei M Newt B sus overtime

And then the cheapies like Fhm and Ogier and Rouald

[steady osprey]

nvm no avo

[spiral raven]

then id go for jst first

[open bone]

Oh I’ve got the blues for that already then cool. Just TB or 3pc

[steady osprey]

susOT is in capsule rn

[spiral raven]

tm

[steady osprey]

idk if it need resonance

[spiral raven]

i would not bother scraping it

just keep for collection

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1478396308191449181/1480081959156715520/923325147543396413.webp

[last hull]

Nothing worth it from the exchange shop atp?

[spiral raven]

well, exchange shop garbo shop

realistically p2 covers all bosses now

[steady osprey]

just newB and MeiM but p2 doesnt want them anymore

[last hull]

I was thinking it might be useful in my case, cause yes you are right but my account is just lacking so much shit that something could be helpful?

[spiral raven]

well idk ur acc

if u want to build p1 options then it might be easier to like just start with thel

so whenever she not used u can use her to bruteforce stuff

although this week she is used

[last hull]

I dont have Thel

[spiral raven]

if u dont have hoo built then u do hohe rita thel also 3s

[last hull]

My account is hot steaming garbage

[spiral raven]

oh well then consider making a p1 phys then

iirc u had most components for it

u were just missing a few stigs for it no

[last hull]

No RS

[spiral raven]

u dont need rs for the ss ma tho
im talking about ss ma

[last hull]

Oh true

PE would probably be useful

[spiral raven]

its just triple supp

pe want sig

[last hull]

I could try and get that

But nah not worth the cost

[spiral raven]

just build the triple support

[last hull]

HRB TA SI?

[steady osprey]

triple supp also want sig weapons

[spiral raven]

he had some sigs

[spiral raven]

si ta sns

[steady osprey]

SI TA SnS(Carole)

[last hull]

Oh that tripple supprt

I scrapped MKP for Torus

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-harakiri-gif-14785494

[spiral raven]

not having MKP is not the end of the world

last time u just missign too much other stigs no

and shit was not lvl up

[steady osprey]

and they wont work on some 2 phases ss bosses like kasumi, alien motherfkr guard or sampo

[last hull]

I really need to get my SI and PV to SSS them sitting at SS since like 6.0 is just fucking sad

[spiral raven]

not like he has any other options anywhere close to built

so its fine lol

[last hull]

I have JD for Alien Guard

Tho I can only 893 it w the shit I own

My account is doodie water

[last hull]

Oh what would I run on SnS then

[spiral raven]

mei , and then any high atk wep

[steady osprey]

TA set lol

[last hull]

I JUST REMEMBERED MY CAROLE IS S RANK GONNA KMS

[steady osprey]

Carole's farmable thats no big deal

[spiral raven]

why kms, idk why u thinking about these ma stuff in the first place

with like farmable everything not sss

[last hull]

I wanna score well but Im too trash at the game

Bricked my account with too many stupid decisions

[spiral raven]

well u dont need to be very good to score well, u just slack too hard

hard to find peeps with s sns in big 2026

[last hull]

I think it’s because at the time I only really cared about abyss and would onetap MA

[spiral raven]

but sns was still used in abyss for a good time

[last hull]

My phys was dead anyways

I was making stupid decisions since Day1

How I didnt get discouraged or quit the game is beyond me

[last hull]

In the 5.5 spending event I spent all of my spending currency on S3 HoV cuz I tried her out in the story and I wanted to be the next Lyo or smth

I even went out of my way to buy faking SirinB from the exchange shop

Literally

Been bricked since Day1 and too stupid to fix my account till now

[steady osprey]

careful or u will summon Lyo

and may i ask how u get s3 HoV

[last hull]

I just said

[steady osprey]

so u spent all on the valk frag box

[last hull]

Yes

Hopeless since Day 1

[fair dock]

What can be a good substitute for HoHE with this current abyss. HLE + FDD + ?????

[steady osprey]

not too brick, its just an event

[last hull]

Oh well time to get my act together

[last hull]

A SPENDING EVENT

I could have gotten SS SpA w that or literally anything else

“nO HoV cUz FuNnEe”

I coulda spent it all on asterite and that probably still would have been better than HoV

[steady osprey]

SS-ing HoV actually gave u a passive dorm buff. Something like 7% physical dmg or 3% total dmg, before they reworked the dorm squad buffs

[last hull]

I didnt end up getting a real physical team until 6.8 so un

[dull sphinx]

VQ usually play WA build, ult is not recommended

[last hull]

My only decent phys set is Dirac so Im forced to go w ult build

[left summit]

how do you do the abyss boss? cuz im dealing like no damage lol

[finite barn]

why are you forced to play vq tho?

cant you just like do a low difficulty lite skip thing if youre grinding for the ER levels?

which cares not about build

[spiral raven]

benares? dude is a target dummy with no real mechanics, ice weather, use ice

[left summit]

i do but it takes so long i think im doing it wrong

[spiral raven]

wat team

[left summit]

thelema, elysia elf and vita

[spiral raven]

sounds ok

do u have other goi units

hle might be better as lead than thel

but if thats all u can do then oh well

[left summit]

hle?

[last hull]

Im doing regular finality run rn for weekly rewards

[spiral raven]

elysia elf

[finite barn]

yeah but why vq

[left summit]

she is the lead

[spiral raven]

well thats a problem chief, thelema and vita cant support her

[last hull]

VQ seemed to be the one who could best take advantage of the ER buffs

Also cause she’s fun

[left summit]

oh does leader matter?

[spiral raven]

yes

leader determines the ring

so u need the other two to have tags that match the ring

hle is grail of infinitude

u need units with tag symbiosis to match

if u dont have those units

then let thelema be lead and after supports buff up

u stay on her to do dmg

[finite barn]

ER buffs dont matter tbh

[left summit]

is there a better team? i just used the recommended?

[spiral raven]

hle hohe (if u have her divine key) fdd

[last hull]

Who should I use then?

Still no Mei 😭

[finite barn]

any p2 would be better

hohe probably still clears easy too

[last hull]

Um

Can I go JD?

[finite barn]

no reason why not

[last hull]

Ok how do I do her again I forgor

[finite barn]

like. vbm is notoriously good in ER and you definitely have her

[last hull]

She’s boring tho tbh

[finite barn]

idk theres a signet guide in the pins

[open bone]

Boltstorm also good

[last hull]

That thing is kinda outdated

I dont have her sig

Tho ig that doesnt rly matter in ER

[open bone]

Still usable 0/4

Worse obviously

[finite barn]

wdym its outdated its fine?

signet builds basically never change

[last hull]

Idk when I was trying to get valks to lv15 and referring to the rentry and struggling sometimes Pot said some of the stuff was pretty outdated

[finite barn]

thats cause the valks are old

[open bone]

Getting people to level 15 doesn’t involve clearing

[steady osprey]

guides are outdated

[open bone]

You just go on void difficult and lite to the first boss

Kill it and leave

[finite barn]

the way you grind ER level is by lite-ing the first 7 floors and beating the boss on f8 and finalizing

[last hull]

I was doing inferno runs for some of the valks to unlock their stamps in the ER shop

[last hull]

This is what I did for everyone else

[finite barn]

thats also just cause the valk is old

... now im wondering if keeby's scuffed ER clears still work...

[open bone]

And also ungeared and unranked. Any 1 of those is often fine but all three rough

[finite barn]

that reminds me i need to do the fov inferno run lol

im so behind on er stamps...

[vagrant fractal]

Pls update Raven signets for ma boi Butter

[chilly flare]

how do i SSS dreamseeker? she’s only SS for me and i think i finished the story but not quite sure

[last hull]

@finite barn @open bone I feel like I should have cleared much faster but whatever

Kinda bad signet luck

Also the game just refused to give me Red and Hot

[chilly flare]

turns out i’ve missed some story but, is there a specific one i get the SSS rank up one from or is it another source

[open bone]

Chapter 10

[last hull]

Can someone help me do some math and figure out how many terminals I would need to max the remaining skills out?

My dumbass forgot to upload the image lmfao

[opal veldt]

Uh I got 10 more one carnival, what would be the best choice out of SS Cora, S2 Kiana, S2 Helia? Vita's getting close in age to BP so idk how worth it would to S2 her

[spiral raven]

still s2 vita

[opal veldt]

Guess it does make SS vita cheaper if she ever goes to bp

And then the big stuff for Kiana and Helia ranks get you there for s2 on one bp

[hybrid spire]

I wanna come back to hi3 for nostalgia reasons
is nyx still viable in the current meta

pls dont laugh, i have her fully geared...

[last hull]

Nyx is mega old even by Part1 standards

Even with like a 9S team or something she’s not gonna be able to compete with P2 valks

[hybrid spire]

😭

i remember using nyx ae haxxor everywhere

[last hull]

A LOT has changed since then

Even though ur not new, so much has changed that u essentially kinda are

I would really recommend reading the pins in #👶beginner-help to try and catch up to speed as best you can with the P2 combat systems

[lament prairie]

If that team is geared you can possibly use it in Agony 3 on ice weathers but as soon as you start sniffing Redlotus once you get P2 teams its wraps

Might be worth considering a new acc if ur not attached to the old one, maybe you have asuka or something tho

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/viK030i82yw I'm having trouble with this round, the first vid is my best attempt yet while the second vid is me trying to copy hieu's run https://youtu.be/4HhDMxlaEaM. which rotation should I work on perfecting? Is there anything else I could try?

[lapis raven]

no hle fdd hh cx?

[pale musk]

no hle

[lapis raven]

hh is only better at sss+3

lol glhf shits not gonna be fun

no aop too

u cant even do the 3 SO run

[pale musk]

unless your advice is give up, this doesn't very feel very constructive.

[verbal axle]

What's more worth it, bringing Herrscher of finality to S2 or Herrscher of Origin to SS?

[lament prairie]

what gear do you own for both and do you own MES Rita?

Also where are you getting these ranks from exactly

Because if its BP I don't see much point in either these days

[verbal axle]

No

[verbal axle]

Would be BP yeah

[lament prairie]

Can't you just save your crystallums for something more useful? Seems like a bit of a waste to me even if you're using HoO for img bosses

[verbal axle]

I can

I thought it would be useful

Is this weapon useful on her?

[lament prairie]

Not really, huge gap to the signature wep but probably the best you can cope with for now

[verbal axle]

Origin weap would be worse?

[lament prairie]

Yeah worse

[dusky mantle]

Oh its ice benares?

HLE fdd hohe?

[lament prairie]

7T has 30% tdm to type countered enemies, DoU seems to just have very HoO only bonuses

[dusk robin]

i'm very confused on griseo's synergy team, should i take palatin or ely?

[lapis raven]

probably yea

esp if nirv, if rl its probs doable

nirv run itself is a 3 SO run, even if u somehow do a 2 SO ur score will be terrible

full s0 hle team with ss cx expects around 670

[lapis raven]

both are dpses. it depends which one u need there

[pale musk]

It is rl

[pale musk]

D522 RL, you can see it clearly at the end of the first vid

[dusk robin]

do u know what's the different of ely and palatin? so i can decide one more timee

[lapis raven]

oh mb gang

[lament prairie]

Well one is psy one is img

Choose your dps depending on who has the biggest advantage on the boss type

[pale musk]

So since this is rl what would the rotation be? Or what am I doing wrong?

[verbal axle]

Would there be anything worth it to get rn?

[cunning gull]

divine keys you don't own
if you get paid bp then possibly the stuff in there if it helps your account

[verbal axle]

That would be my valks

And i should have most of the divine keys

[dusk robin]

i see, thank uu!

[cunning gull]

do all the part 2 valks in yhis list have their sig?

[cunning gull]

also do you know what p1 and p2 dkeys you're missing

[verbal axle]

You mean those?

They are the only ones I'm missing

[cunning gull]

yeahh

then if you get paid bp then i would save it for that

[verbal axle]

Everyone until Theresa and herself yes, the ones on the right of her don't have it

[cunning gull]

save for now
||sena's sig will be in reserve next patch, I can't say get it immediately but she'll have a boss and if that proved to be difficult for you then you would wanna get her weap from there||
you can probably consider ranks on these valks too but ill hold off for now
until it proves necessary

[thick heart]

guys who should I get?

[verbal axle]

What about getting her last stigmata I'm missing?

[lament prairie]

Ideally I'd keep it until you're able to get 2/3 but if you insist on opening it now then PE, being an awakened valk she is a bit of a pain

[thick heart]

kk! but one of my fav chars are seele and aponia and I really love their playstyle

[verbal axle]

And who should I pick here? Everyone's only S0

[cunning gull]

hofi doesn't use her old set anymore, if you want a useable hofi you would want her dk then get her new set (iskandar) I don't recommend backpulling for it tho unless you really like hofi or something

[cunning gull]

SW

[lament prairie]

if you wanna pick one of those it's not gonna ruin your acc, Nyx has stress test so I'd get her out of those two

[verbal axle]

I have that, then she's fine, thx

[cunning gull]

||next patch she's get a dkey so she'll be meta and the ranks will help you catchup||

[verbal axle]

Wait you meant silver wing right?

[cunning gull]

yes

[verbal axle]

What to use this on?

[chilly flare]

is theresa the first and only character to switch her weapon type? she uses dual blades right in the sleepy battlesuit instead of a cross?

[cunning gull]

you said everyone after eepy teri don't have weapon? finish pulling first then ask again

[verbal axle]

Ok

[cunning gull]

there's rs (small dudu)
from lance to javelin

[chilly flare]

ohhh

[verbal axle]

Should I continue pulling? Won't getting ||SW DK || hard if I continue pulling?

[chilly flare]

part 2 is so strange, surprised kiana still uses guns instead of some wack weapon now

[verbal axle]

I mean she hits enemies with a stick

[chilly flare]

since i don’t think her guns are used much in her badum suit, not even in her hofs one tbf

[cunning gull]

keep pulling for new mei weapon so you can use her properly

[verbal axle]

Ok

[chilly flare]

yeah, surprised she’s not like lance or javelin, and i expected sparkle to be pistol but instead she’s yoyo

(im a returning player so a lot of part 2 balls are shocking to me)

[vernal terrace]

Drive core ain't a yoyo

[verbal axle]

Me too

[verbal axle]

Is this possible f2p?

[chilly flare]

oh is that only a senadina thing

[vernal terrace]

Yes

[chilly flare]

i see

[vernal terrace]

It's a mechanism I believe

[chilly flare]

drive cores are powerful cores i assume then

[cunning gull]

keep pulling, u still have time
||any saving after getting the weapon or failing to do because the supply is over will go to SW dk||

[chilly flare]

like a w-engine typa thing in zzz if it were to be compared maybe?

[verbal axle]

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