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[iron mesa]

give me back HF

[spare furnace]

A B A B A B x3.14

[rigid cedar]

heh pi

[iron mesa]

I was playing HFS HTr MA this abyss, it's fun cause you can pre-ult with MA before the 2nd phase

I also played VQ of course, but it was like 50pts less

[rigid cedar]

are you using sparkle too?

[iron mesa]

I am not

[rigid cedar]

better Ai-chan basically

[iron mesa]

I didn't know you could pair sparkle and VQ

[iron mesa]

oh I see

[rigid cedar]

not VQ but HFS

RS is also a better TA

[rigid cedar]

woah

[iron mesa]

869 in sinful 1

it's fun 💜 It's like playing Memorial Arena

[rigid cedar]

i won't deny that

[naive shoal]

[rigid cedar]

what's the D down there?

[iron mesa]

a3 is almost 500? Kinda cringe bro

[iron mesa]

310

[rigid cedar]

oki

[remote gate]

THE

[naive shoal]

im losing it

[iron mesa]

Tbh, I probably would have only gotten like 500pts in a3, crazy

[remote gate]

Does anyone know which is the best team in Herrscher of Thunder?

[iron mesa]

I can only give you 2yo advice

[naive shoal]

im in sea i t cant be that bad

[spare furnace]

She is a really old valk and not relevant in the meta

[remote gate]

But I still want to use it.

[rigid cedar]

NA A3 was 475 last cycle

[iron mesa]

Well, I would probably have gotten 500-600 in Nirv at 500D, but I do know that A3 scales a bit diff than nirv for Disturbance (I think)

[remote gate]

Because she's my favorite character.

[open bone]

Golden diva, and then maybe HotR? I wouldn’t expect much from even an SSS team with full gear tho

[formal wigeon]

When his team was something nirv was about 420

[rigid cedar]

see for yourself https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1quD7Di_IUhnxvwGglnk9xePetXLiyBgIIF5qqh0Xwb0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[iron mesa]

oh, I thought if there was a better CN and TA that there might be a better GD, like Vita LSF

[remote gate]

Can you help me with that?

[naive shoal]

what,, ag1 is 440 rn

[formal wigeon]

HTR LV should be best for HoT, but LV will deal more DMG than her in there

[rigid cedar]

how far do you want to use her?

are we talking useable or absolute best?

[iron mesa]

what was this suppose to show me?

[rigid cedar]

recorded disturbance numbers from the big 3 global servers

[remote gate]

Doing everything possible

[iron mesa]

right, but... I wasn't talking about the disturbance.
I was talking about the enemy scaling in the different tiers relative to disturbance.

[rigid cedar]

it's pinned in here, so actually a server-wide thing we're keeping track of

[rigid cedar]

oh that

[naive shoal]

im curious, whats the disturbance on rl or nirv in na/eu

[rigid cedar]

rl in eu and na is the same right now

[iron mesa]

Iirc, there was a time when SEA A3 was roughtly equal to EU RL, and it seemed to be notably harder in RL

[rigid cedar]

nirvana for na isn't recorded yet

[vagrant fractal]

Divine Prayer and Phoenix

Two elemental supports

[rigid cedar]

ahem, help channel

[iron mesa]

550D with VQ era comps was horrible XD

200-300 pts on a bleed boss

[remote gate]

Man, I want to use it wherever I can find it and until I get tired of it.

[rigid cedar]

isn't it fine to use her then while you're leveling your account into the mid-game?

[vagrant fractal]

I wouldn't get too attached to her buddy, no matter how much those tassels sway

[rigid cedar]

(max level)

[iron mesa]

Its fine to play her as much as you want

She's in Elysian realm.

[remote gate]

Oh, I wanted to know if Bruna fits into that.

[iron mesa]

I played HoV this cycle, it was really fun.

[rigid cedar]

the problem with HoT is that she's old old, especially without gear you won't clear endgame content

unless you stay in lower ranks

[iron mesa]

*even if you stay in lower ranks

It's hard to dunk on kids without a fully kitted team

like, take a guess about the 2nd place

[rigid cedar]

vbm leader

[iron mesa]

If you guesssed, barely anything geared

[rigid cedar]

oh god that badum is cursed

[iron mesa]

they probably weren't even playing efficently

just like smacking the screen

[rigid cedar]

okay i think we get it

[iron mesa]

memewhile I had to optimize my 2 rotations, for a meesly 150pt lead

[rigid cedar]

you need to understand that rotation optimization is not really a surface level topic

especially not in NA sinful 1

[iron mesa]

My point was, even if you play HT, if it's not geared, you'll just get handled by current valks

[rigid cedar]

even your team would get handled

[iron mesa]

nah

I actually don't think most ppl could beat this score even with current teams

I wasn't damage blocked

I'd expect people to like, match it at best

[formal wigeon]

You underestimate the DMG of new stuff

That'd be an actual one shot with time stop

[rigid cedar]

i could probably kill phase 2 with one JDS javelin from stellar shift

[iron mesa]

I kill p2 with HFS ult

and nothing else

[rigid cedar]

every ult has timestop nowadays

[iron mesa]

so does HFS

[rigid cedar]

so does some other skills

[formal wigeon]

Do you also kill P1 with only ult ?

[iron mesa]

nah I'd lose prolly about 20-30pts over a current

but it's not exactly "handling" it

[rigid cedar]

hle wa on sa spawn > hold ult

boom

[iron mesa]

Mostly this boss just has a huge time waster

There are a lot of bosses I can still 950

[rigid cedar]

what about agony?

[iron mesa]

I haven't been in agony in over a year

[rigid cedar]

where's the limit

[formal wigeon]

Tbh in sinful 1 I'd hope so. I rember the 310D RL era, good times

[iron mesa]

I even lost my RL emblem XD

[rigid cedar]

...

[formal wigeon]

When DJ was relevant

[iron mesa]

DJ 💋

Clock

Do they even run paralyze clock anymore?

probably not

[rigid cedar]

yes, PAWS runs him now

Helia S rank

[iron mesa]

So I would just use DJ

Nice

[rigid cedar]

before you ask for ignite, S rank coralie

they even bring back that one stun boss for some godforsaken reason

[iron mesa]

Where is my Cleo B?

why can't I type to search

[rigid cedar]

#wiki-consult message

[iron mesa]

I emergency salvaged it

rip, gotta make a new one

btw, does anyone have a reasonable explaination of why the new valks have half their kits on their stigs?

[formal wigeon]

To stop us from running other stigs

And on 3p specifically to stop flex pieces

[iron mesa]

And to stop us from using them on other valks :c

[formal wigeon]

Like Panini M for shield break cope

[rigid cedar]

that doesn't stop me from trying for ER runs

don't have resources to backforge every p1 gear for older valks just to use them there

[formal wigeon]

They slipped up twice, and both times we used HTR set instead of their sig

So now they triple down on it

[crude cloak]

Wait, what was the second case

I only remember Teri

Also, wasn't it Ovt Ala on Vita

For PS

[formal wigeon]

Sena beta first, patched for live with her thing where she can't go on field at all ever or lose her buffs

[rigid cedar]

yes

[iron mesa]

jokes on them tho, they put the good stuff on the singles now

[formal wigeon]

And right bleed stuff still went through as well

[rigid cedar]

ironically i still use this for mech valks because I have this stig 2x23

[spiral raven]

if u have nothing else ig

[rigid cedar]

i have almost every p2 stig in the game

and trio stuff i guess

[spiral raven]

bianka m gives tdm i think. not that u have it

[rigid cedar]

Tsiolkovsky M

20% tdm

[spiral raven]

better than nothjing

[naive shoal]

how cooked am i for the next boss if i only have an elemental team

[rigid cedar]

the trick is to scrape together 2pc and 3pc bonuses

[crude cloak]

She doesn't require Phys

[spiral raven]

its not about element, its about bleed

[rigid cedar]

on fire I run Sparkle TB + Iskandar M

[crude cloak]

As long as you have a good Bleed source you're good

[naive shoal]

yeah i have no bleed too

[spiral raven]

then ur cooked

[naive shoal]

[rigid cedar]

no bleed on bleed weather is skip

or omegacopium

[spiral raven]

but if ur not in nirv, and slack bracket, then u can live

[formal wigeon]

P2 can't even cope with swapping out one guy or one gear for bleed

[crude cloak]

In SEA RL? I doubt it tbh xdd

[rigid cedar]

https://youtu.be/KnSvvXBdkzc

[spiral raven]

well i didnt live last time, but maybe this time diff

[crude cloak]

https://youtu.be/Gqo0qQxPLUc?si=cI0VQU7JZL5Rb1Wf

[formal wigeon]

How long does the first part take if you don't blow up the shields with bleed ?

[crude cloak]

You can run a better team nowadays ofc

[crude cloak]

Too long to bother

[rigid cedar]

CE aintnoway

[iron mesa]

btw, are there any good singles or are they all actually terrible?

[formal wigeon]

That's what I thought

[formal wigeon]

Every P2 set is just 3p for it's valk

[rigid cedar]

all terrible compared to actual p1 stigs

[crude cloak]

The last P1 stigs weren't used on other valks as well iirc

[iron mesa]

yea

[spiral raven]

there aint any p1 valks left to use it on

[iron mesa]

I only play p1 valks + rita vita

[rigid cedar]

FoV stigs were used on VBm ER

[crude cloak]

Ah, ye

[iron mesa]

VBm? Oh Blast Metal

That's interesting

[rigid cedar]

Also Handel M on VBs

[iron mesa]

is it better dmg? I mean hers are craftable anyways

[crude cloak]

FoV's set isn't

[rigid cedar]

because Neumann M and 3pc has 0 self-buff

[iron mesa]

gotcha, what about other fire sets?

Was FoVs just a lot better?

[crude cloak]

Tsio is mostly for supporting, so it makes sense that FoV's can be better

[formal wigeon]

Specifically for ER vbm, her sig is support oriented and ER gives her life drain/gain to proc the FoV stigs

[rigid cedar]

VBm and VBs and their stigs are support oriented

they were never made to be their own dps valks

more an extension to Senadina

[iron mesa]

I understand, I was just wondering if FoV's stigs were just that good in ER

They seem like they could scale well

[rigid cedar]

i would say so yeah

[iron mesa]

Lots of fire and total dmg

[formal wigeon]

In this case yeah

Tho the difference still wasn't massive

Because she was already strong af anyways

[rigid cedar]

kalpas also would love the effects

[iron mesa]

🤔 maybe you could cheese with nuwa M

ah but the 20% independent

I feel like the g4 fire should be pretty similar, unless she can't ignite

[rigid cedar]

thats what i mostly see for older ER guides

[crude cloak]

She can't

[rigid cedar]

g4 or g3 fire

depending on ignite or no

cut and dry and i guess everyone at the time had those anyway

[iron mesa]

yeah, I think FoV stigs would probably be fun for most of the fire valks in ER

[rigid cedar]

nuwa m was on my radar for abit though, bodhi signets would keep it permanently in full effect

[iron mesa]

actually it would kill it most of the time

[formal wigeon]

They'd work thanks to signets yeah, but still behind sigs for the other valks

[rigid cedar]

not if you just take the extra hitcount things

[iron mesa]

You could use the solo bodi for the 1 hit boosts, as long as you don't reset it

[rigid cedar]

initial hitcount also good

[iron mesa]

but 20% independent would probably be a lot better in ER though 100% fire isn't actually terrbile since the valk stats are separate in ER

It's actually really a lot

[rigid cedar]

the er signets will probably inflate nonindependent buffs though

[iron mesa]

Valk Fire Dmg is a separate multi from ER ele dmg

[rigid cedar]

oh okay

[spiral raven]

stigmata and weap is just separate from er

[iron mesa]

They didn't ever add blood rose to ER did they?

[rigid cedar]

nah

[steady osprey]

no

[rigid cedar]

forever a support

[spiral raven]

they havent added new p1

since forever

[steady osprey]

since p2

[iron mesa]

I saw they adjusted SNymph, but I couldnt' find what they actually changed

[steady osprey]

dont want us to have fun get 400xtal

[spiral raven]

was recent too

randomly revisted her

[steady osprey]

SN is bad anw, i even struggled to get her 400xtal

[quasi pier]

they gave her like 40% more total dmg and called it a day

[iron mesa]

I tried her, and I was able to clear abst with some difficulty, but I was just mostly confused cause she felt the same with mroe dmg

I was just confused cause this is ALL the info in game

[iron mesa]

That's a weird way to put the message 🤔

all the characters have special adjustments

[steady osprey]

added additional buffs

[iron mesa]

right, but why it in this menu at all

none of the other valks have it, and some have significant changes from the special adjustments

[steady osprey]

i think they added some crit rate

[iron mesa]

30crate 70tdm

[quasi pier]

oh it was 70 not 40

[iron mesa]

She already has a 50% independent multi too

[steady osprey]

30crit rate is important for phys valk though

[iron mesa]

damn what was the crt conversion? 300 something at level 80. 🤔

ah, now I remember that CRT affixes say Crit Rate now, I'm angry all over again

[steady osprey]

rly? lol

maybe they changed it to % to make it usable?

[iron mesa]

no

It's still just CRT

[steady osprey]

wait... so does that mean "crit rate increases by 30%" only add 30% of ur (non-existent) CRT stat?

[iron mesa]

+30% flat cRate for the ER adjustment

reminds me of using full SirinA on SN for the 15% crate

[steady osprey]

bad translation ig

[iron mesa]

Well it USED to say CRT

They redid it shortly before P2

[steady osprey]

a lot of newbie cant get wat the hell CRT is

[iron mesa]

yeah which makes this even worse XD

I think it's like, 1% crate ish

[steady osprey]

yeah they need to change all CRT text

[iron mesa]

ah nice it even got the LaTeX, AI doing a good job for once.

[steady osprey]

there is a formular to convert CRT to actuall cRate

[iron mesa]

It even got the part about ele can't crit right at the end

[spiral raven]

sometimes it feels like its not purely translation, sushang's m piece says it gives total dmg but its actually physical, even if u use ai to translate, u cant make this kind of mistake, so its more like intern kun moment

[iron mesa]

I can promise, that none of the p1 text was AI translated

It wasn't even google translate

[spiral raven]

yea

[steady osprey]

peregrine M?

[iron mesa]

because google would have done a better job

[spiral raven]

yes

[iron mesa]

[steady osprey]

it says increase phys 13% ?

[spiral raven]

last time i checked its total dmg

did they patch it

wiki still has it wrong then xd

[steady osprey]

characters with World is My Oyster deal 16% tdm?

[spiral raven]

yes thats not tdm, its physical

[steady osprey]

well since she does only phys....

[steady osprey]

exclusive also mean independent? as i interprete it

[iron mesa]

no

[dusty dagger]

Why use ai for something like this

[steady osprey]

use cay prof instead

[spiral raven]

exclusive just means from this source only
if you had 2 people wearing that, only one applies

[iron mesa]

oh I was just trying to get to the wiki, and the AI got it first in the summary

[dusty dagger]

Ah yes browsers and their ai summaries

[iron mesa]

Unless there are some mixed examples in new valks using Exclusive to mean Independent.
I think that the only usages of Exclusive on gear mean Cannot Stack/Unique Effect

[spiral raven]

yea

[steady osprey]

well that means it sucks

[spiral raven]

newt b op

[iron mesa]

They basically just went thought multiple diff localizaiton teams in a year

And some of them re-invented terms, and then no one in like 6 years has fixed it

I really just wanted consistency

The CN wording is fairly consistent over time

[rigid cedar]

https://marisaimpact.com/betanews/85er
very bottom of the page

[iron mesa]

oh they adjusted her signets too

[rigid cedar]

yeah

[steady osprey]

alr got her 400. dc

[iron mesa]

these +10% make me cry

[rigid cedar]

[iron mesa]

I was pretty sure they were new when I saw them, but I don't even know what they mean.

It's like a really bad joke

[spiral raven]

wow she can hit stuff now instead of being wet noodles

[rigid cedar]

notoriously small buff number, that's all

[spiral raven]

itsl ike noodles to mosquito bites

[steady osprey]

lmao wat the hell does 10+10+10+10+10+10 even mean

[iron mesa]

^

[dusty dagger]

10% tdt is fucking criminal

[iron mesa]

that's what I meant, I don't know if it means like 60% or 1.10%^6 or whatever it means

[spiral raven]

i can assure u its not 10^6

[dusty dagger]

Actually all of those ego signets are criminal wtf

[iron mesa]

well 1.10^6 is actually pretty close to the same, it'd be really hard to tell

nvm, 5 head me

[spiral raven]

lol but yea her old signets were very criminal, new ones just do mosquito bites now

[rigid cedar]

its 60%

[iron mesa]

I forgot thales m is 1.02^10 ~ 22% independent fire dmg

I was just like "It's the same bro" but it doesn't work on a 10% the same as a 2%

[spiral raven]

she got herself a nickname cuz of it as well,
10% women kek

[rigid cedar]

diabolical nickname

[steady osprey]

yes thales is 2% fire dmg taken x10

and a flat 20 tdm

[iron mesa]

right, but this is also a taken multi
the enemy takes 10% + 10% + 10% + 10% + 10% + 10% bonus Total DMG for 6s.

🤔 1.1^6 = 1.771561 vs 1.6

it's not actually that much more after all

[spiral raven]

its better than nicknames such as "island exploded crow" crude translate but yea

[rigid cedar]

is that for natasha...

[spiral raven]

yes

[rigid cedar]

jesus

[iron mesa]

If I cared, I might even test it.

[steady osprey]

oh that explains autochess raven skill

[spiral raven]

she has a more wideknown name tho, 100>175

[rigid cedar]

i would test it but i don't own any thales nor the mats

[iron mesa]

no, I meant the sn signet

[rigid cedar]

oh

[iron mesa]

I tested thales 5ever ago

[rigid cedar]

well same issue with owning SN

[iron mesa]

we confirmed it more than once

[rigid cedar]

p2 zoomer account

[spiral raven]

u dont own sn?

[rigid cedar]

not yet

but probably my next unlock

will run horb dk to cope

[spiral raven]

ur only usage for her is tf bot in sim battles
so it dont rly matter
could put on fr's sig and boost team dmg

[iron mesa]

idk what build to test it with.

[rigid cedar]

omg the children

[steady osprey]

tf bot? doesnt her team alr has kmb

[iron mesa]

probably this one

[spiral raven]

as in with other valks as support
also they dont always show together

[iron mesa]

what boss did I even use this for? Probably something with a qua collapse. and HFS

[rigid cedar]

maybe armada sim battle

[iron mesa]

MA SS Tona, I member

[steady osprey]

the submerge squid. i rmb a vid with SN supp HOT

[rigid cedar]

[iron mesa]

that was the best MA boss

[rigid cedar]

can we bring it back?

[iron mesa]

well maybe 2nd best

[rigid cedar]

I saw it in glb beta was like "damn"

[iron mesa]

I really really liked Blood Rose boss

oh

[rigid cedar]

it even had an interesting nickname on the beta stage

some greek god i believe

[iron mesa]

Aztec*

All the QUA bosses are Aztec gods

[rigid cedar]

[steady osprey]

i called him undyable QUA autochess

[iron mesa]

And all the IMG bosses are aspects of Buddhism

they translate funny

[steady osprey]

hod?

[iron mesa]

Nah like The clock and the flow and the bull

[rigid cedar]

false god is an aspect of buddhism?

[iron mesa]

yes

Sorry this is really more #📚honkai-lore

[rigid cedar]

you're right

but it's fine to branch off sometimes if we keep this on-topic

[iron mesa]

Right, the trivia is fine, but I probably shouldn't try to explain why I think false god otto would be interpetted as something relating to buddism XD
Basically it's just about the ascension, but it's also not a pure form which is why it's a failure (plus yuri girls use the power of friendship to stop him).

[rigid cedar]

i think I've seen a theme like this before, I can imagine

makes this even funnier how Otto was run last MA and got obliterated by anything

[iron mesa]

It's very popular in CN writing. Though mihoyo also explorers lots of other neat ideas and cultures.

[iron mesa]

Has anyone done a 0s on him yet?

[steady osprey]

the struggle is real

[iron mesa]

It's technically possible even on the SSS, you can dmg him before he becomes invulnerable, but I don't think any new characters can do enough dmg fast enough.

Cause it's his entire SSS HP bar

[steady osprey]

dudu?

[spiral raven]

cap is still 2s

[iron mesa]

So before invuln?

[steady osprey]

his unpleasant part is the 3 hit shield

[iron mesa]

oh, not before

[spiral raven]

not before

[rigid cedar]

not yet
https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1f9nuzfERW/?t=139

[iron mesa]

Honestly I didn't even know if it was common knowledge you could hit him before it yet.
I kinda just tried it because you could on the SS one

Oh this is still without shreading the shield tho

they do get in just a little bit of dmg. but yeah you'd have to hit him for his full HP + Img seed before the shield spawns

I think it's a probably never thing, unless they do something silly

[obtuse lintel]

What does this exactly? I mean, it gives new rooms and lets you add more characters? Or is to use with the already placed characters?

Hi, btw

[spiral raven]

pretty sure that opens the summer area in the dorm, just a different place other than st freya iirc

but maybe others rmb/know more

[iron mesa]

beach dorm

Technically it will pay for itself in asterite in something like 3 years

[analog cloud]

Rare 10cent sighting

[iron mesa]

henlo

💜

mine is full of the ever important beach chair

the most efficient comfort item

oh dang, when did they up this?

I''ve been slacking on dispatches

Wait, they also up'd the stamina cap?

[spiral raven]

ye, but i mean u do 5 dispatches daily and ur running out of stamina

unless ur burning thru the reserves then u prob wont use it

[iron mesa]

It's fine, it's just nice to know that they are doing some QoL to old systems

[spiral raven]

that stamina dispatch change felt like been here for a long time now, but i rather they try to revive armada or dorm

[obtuse lintel]

So it actually lets you put different valks than the ones you have in the normal dorm?

[iron mesa]

yea, it's a 2nd dorm. You can swap between them. It has 4 rooms for a total of 7

[obtuse lintel]

I know its not worth it

I just wanted it for my valks

I have one room with some flame chasers

One with trio and other favs

[crude cloak]

Yeah, and it's no longer level-based

It's always 240

[obtuse lintel]

And like that, but there are always new valks that i want to put but also dont wanna remove the old ones

[weak oracle]

wtf, does badum dps can't do anything here???

[full trench]

badum is fine

[eager smelt]

ur playing her wrong

[weak oracle]

...

[full trench]

u can probably find a badum ref but if not post a recording and people can help

[weak oracle]

tweaked some minor details (mostly beginning of fight), but I can't get transition before 890

[formal wigeon]

https://youtu.be/ncL9gI5wtIk

10D higher than you so even if you're missing atk it should be fine

[dusky mantle]

oh shit abyss

[steady osprey]

lmao

[full trench]

oh, shit abyss

[dusky mantle]

i slept through gg

oh nvm it's bleed abyss next

no sleepy teri and LV gear or PS

good thing i didnt promote

[safe spade]

Can someone help me w this?

Plssss

[dusky mantle]

pssh

the trick is to put the big ones first

check #👶beginner-help pins

[atomic violet]

Hi I'm a returnee is there anything worth pulling on rn?

[naive shoal]

elysia

[crude cloak]

Depends on your current crystal count and your one-time crystal sources

!faq crystals

[night parcel]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[crude cloak]

It's also a good idea if you show your valks + weaps + stigs, it might be best to make a new acc

[vernal bronze]

I’m not gonna get sniped right?

:inspiredbymemes:

[weak drum]

you will

you’re widawy in the hardest abyss rank

[plucky gust]

finally got sparkle. . . i really hope she has at least 1 more year in her lifespan as a meta option. . .

[spiral raven]

well ig u can hope, but its pretty rough

[plucky gust]

welp, at least she's still EX MA kinda meta. . . but i finally have an answer to QUA weathers

imagine if next patch is a QUA unit. . . mega oof

welp sparkle still has execute, so i guess she's still kinda relevant there? unless they create a new QUA unit with execute too. . .

[spiral raven]

prob wont be qua unit too soon, but yea ur only gonna be using her in ma basically

[plucky gust]

and that's fine with me... if she's relevant on qua weathers + MA for at least 12 months, then im legit fine with it.

[arctic birch]

do emblems, except for the elysian realm ones, take effect in stress tests? im so close to beating one and have had a er emblem on for the entire time so

[spiral raven]

they do

[arctic birch]

do divine keys work in them too? like the gene limits u can buy for some time

[spiral raven]

yes

[arctic birch]

YAAY

thank you sm

i originally thought they wouldnt since the options not there yippe

[rigid cedar]

the only things that definitely don't work are usual trial valk restrictions. dk and dorm stats for example don't apply to them

this is why their ATK stats are always so low compared to your own valks

on top of usually not having maxed out gear

[spiral raven]

hmm well it should work, but if it dont then i misrembered, also can look up yt vids or something to make sure ur playing somehwat correctly

[arctic birch]

yeah ive been following all of them, there are 2 ive been trying to complete for 3 days now so im hoping the divine keys and emblems will just get me that half healthbar more that i need

[honest monolith]

Ignoring meta for a moment. Is this her best build? She's still one of my fav charecters (always will be) and I want her to have her best stuff possible, so I wanna know if I got the right weapon (I got both of her weapons) and what stigmatas would be best on her

I jus time using those stigmatas because they have her picture

✌️

One day I'll have SSS, but my prio is getting bright knight for the Elysian realm xtals

[elfin parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9337Br06PQ maybe something like this. I don't know if this truly is best off the top of my head though.

Ideally i encourage you to review descriptions and compare to other stigmata (maybe little joys 3pc which is the foundry g4 fire set is a candidate too). Also ideally i would urge you to search for other possible videos of some recency (maybe within this year) from the pinned resources. However I understand this is a tall order for someone who isn't very well-versed with the game. If you still want to ask for more details, feel free.

[full trench]

fdd or vita dps for sprout, both s0

also sss chenxue

[atomic violet]

I've got her and gears

Is there anything else currently or anything upcoming to save for?

[full trench]

save until cn beta v3

[atomic violet]

Don't mind thw crystals

[full trench]

then decide what to do

[dark phoenix]

there's always next new valk to save for

[atomic violet]

I mean do we have any info to that

Like SMTH u should save for

[dark phoenix]

we have some but even if we dont, it's still a target

[atomic violet]

I have been out from this game for so long

[digital sky]

Whos 2nd best on raven ice?

[atomic violet]

So I don't know the current meta or anything

So what about any reruns worth pulling on

[dark phoenix]

we usually focus on future release, current meta is what happened, trying to get them isn't the best idea

[atomic violet]

Hmm whens that

[digital sky]

Reruns are almost never worth pulling for

[weak drum]

isnt paws locked to sa

or are you using vita hofi for fdd's supports

[full trench]

i havent locked anyone except thel

[weak drum]

hle badum paws for sa hmghe

idk if s0 bita is better than s0 fdd tho, brb

[dark phoenix]

if you try to get the "current meta valk" you will need to spend a lot in short amount of time, not realistic for most player, especially returnee, and they wont get as much use as the past
focus on new release is just a better choice

[atomic violet]

Is the elysia banner seriously worth it?

I kind of don't like elysia but Idc if meta

[weak drum]

ok that was cancerous, fdd should be better just bc of how much time vita wastes

[full trench]

🔥 bad woman is bad as always

[open atlas]

is lantern good?

[dark phoenix]

she is the most worth it now, but it's just general assumption base on how the game work
nobody really know what will happen in the future, but it's usually correct

[open atlas]

just got her 4/4 from returnee banner and i dont know is she worth it or not

[atomic violet]

Heard she was not good even when she was released but I like her!!

So cool

[open atlas]

sad(shes sooo pretty

[atomic violet]

Im thinking of getting her from the returnee too

[spiral raven]

she dont rly have any weathers, most of them got stolen by hohe, theres like fire tank and tahts it

so basically not rly good

[dark phoenix]

if you have nothing, you can use her, but dont focus on her too much

[open atlas]

i have new elysia 4/4 too

and sparkle from part 2

[atomic violet]

was there any mei release this year?? In the future??

[spiral raven]

no one knows

[dark phoenix]

nothing else?

[cunning gull]

last mei battlesuit is HoO

[spiral raven]

well prob not worth but u alr pulled so it is wat it is

[atomic violet]

Ohh soo it's been long since she got one?

[cunning gull]

yeah
she might get a new one but no info for now

[atomic violet]

Okk guess I'll just save for when she gets one ig

[open atlas]

from part 2 no,just returned to game(tried to pull coralie dragon but got nothing

[rigid cedar]

asking after pulling is really too late

[dark phoenix]

so you only have full sparkle team, guess you will want to use her more

[rigid cedar]

normally you'd skip returnee banners, however based on what we will get next patch, lantern can be useful

depends on everything else you have ofc

[open atlas]

i mean it was only returnee banner, i got like 2 weeks left only to end

[rigid cedar]

so you had 2 weeks left to ask

we don't bite

[dark phoenix]

did you spend crystal on it?

[open atlas]

no

[dark phoenix]

oh good

[rigid cedar]

then it's goated and free

[dark phoenix]

for now, use sparkle hle and lamp i guess? not sure if helia is better

actually dont know if you have helia gear

[cunning gull]

Prob lmap bc shes geared plus lamp got fire buffs?

[onyx hedge]

is aponia still good...

[weak drum]

nah

she was already bad way before this point

[rigid cedar]

good for ER, otherwise no

[weak drum]

dont use ER (elysian realm) as a comparison to superstring/qmanifold abyss tho

[rigid cedar]

i mean it's the gamemode that buffs even the oldest valks into oblivion, so yeah

[weak drum]

i meant it for the guy

[onyx hedge]

what old valks are still considered good??

[rigid cedar]

those with meta use

and you need to define old here

[onyx hedge]

i jst returned aft 2 years

so like end of part 1 old

[cunning gull]

yeah
the only p1 valks used in end game are one that received a new dkey (hofi (also gave hoo some shill, hoh, horb)
fov, lv and senti with her dkey
ig hare didnt get replaced yet but her boss last showed up forever ago
but even theyre rare as p2 will soon be 2 years old

[weak drum]

senti with dkey ong

wait last stun fish wasnt in paws’s patch?

[cunning gull]

well no one officially powercrept her so

[weak drum]

dang

[cunning gull]

hmm i dont think so? it was minimum 8.0 at least
lemme check

[weak drum]

schewpid hair and brick

[cunning gull]

although at least u can do paws + rs on her

my rl bracket used rs dps

[weak drum]

yeah thats what im wondering

if paws will just steal the fish

[cunning gull]

nirv prob may keep senti tho? i dunno

[weak drum]

hair will def still t1 apo bc fuck you

[weak drum]

hmghe true

[cunning gull]

me when i have horb for dominance + phy but shes type countered

[weak drum]

also no mobs for ult reset

[cunning gull]

😔

[weak drum]

https://youtu.be/yWi3hxC25Ek

how to follow full s0

[sacred cape]

Is there any daily related stuff for story, and how long is it

[cunning gull]

story doesnt have daily stuff but theres a new map
and according to this walkthough i found, they did it in 3 hours, prob more if you wait more btwn dialogs

[dark phoenix]

just follow from the first step, 🐳

[onyx hedge]

do you guys follow any guide for elysian realm?

[dark phoenix]

yes, in the pins

[onyx hedge]

oh thankyouu!!

[manic lynx]

it seems like im never getting out of agony the last time i saw i was supposed to get to red lotus...

[bronze cypress]

how do i beat world 3 ex-4 on chapter 11 "deep end of the sea"?

[dark phoenix]

change your valk and gear

can search the stage on youtube, almost everything is on youtube

[bronze cypress]

these are the only valks I could use on the stage

I saw some guides already, but their seele was sss and level 80, idk how

[dark phoenix]

just keep pulling the fake gacha in that chapter

i find that himeko very good for chapter 11

can solo everything

[bronze cypress]

it says 0 on mine, how do i get these gacha thingies again?

i just came back to the game and wanted to finally beat this chapter

[dark phoenix]

random drop in those stages

[spiral raven]

u can repeatedly clear older stages if u can't beat new stages iirc

[dark phoenix]

just use that himeko, no need to redo the stage

[bronze cypress]

the stage says high combo deals more dmg tho, but i'll try

[dark phoenix]

her gameplay is quite simple
evade > hold attack if you have enough charge bar above your hp bar > normal attack till no more bar > keep attacking till you have enough bar and repeat

[burnt pilot]

was it a mistake pulling her?

[dark phoenix]

did you spend crystal or card?

[burnt pilot]

crystal on 53th pity count

only did 2 multis

[dark phoenix]

is a mistake

[burnt pilot]

DAMN😭

[dark phoenix]

i mean what did you expect, you are lv 80, should have some basic knownledge already

[burnt pilot]

uhh i’m returning to the game 3 years now

[neon narwhal]

she's past her debut and without the weapon you're effectively locked to using her for support uses

notably for ely

do not pull the weapon though, you're better off investing the crystals in a future unit

[burnt pilot]

alright thank you

[neon narwhal]

anything else you wanna know just ask, 3 years is a lot of time

[burnt pilot]

gotcha

[bronze cypress]

what's the fastest stage to grind for valk gacha and another stage for stigma/weapon gacha?

[spiral raven]

idk, shouldnt matter too much

[bronze cypress]

oh well, I'll just take my time here

[dark phoenix]

still can't clear with himeko?

[spiral raven]

at the same time its like, none of us would rmb these kind of stuff when its been years

[bronze cypress]

tried a bunch of times, might just be my skill issue, I'll try again a few times before just grinding the fake gacha stuff

[spiral raven]

i dont rmb not being able to clear either

[dark phoenix]

did you change her gear?

[bronze cypress]

I... don't even know what to put on her

[rigid cedar]

himeko section has forced trial valks iirc

the thing with her gameplay is that you need to time her sword swings

[dark phoenix]

chapter 11, it's krieg

she is easy to use

[rigid cedar]

there is a small visual indicator on her character model when you're supposed to press basic again

that's how you swing faster

[bronze cypress]

[rigid cedar]

on kriegsmesser its the same, but actually even more important, because her ult rewards swinging right

just dont use your sp on wep, save it for ult

also you can chain an evade into a basic for a groundpound

[formal wigeon]

isn't Krieg just hold atks ? no timing

[dark phoenix]

just use this, more than enough

[rigid cedar]

uhm

wait

you could change gear on this stage?

[bronze cypress]

yeah

[rigid cedar]

ohh wait

chapter 11 is sea of quanta

i see

[bronze cypress]

deep end of the sea

[dark phoenix]

[rigid cedar]

yeah

my tips still apply though

[bronze cypress]

world 3 ex-4 is VERY annoying (at least for me)

[rigid cedar]

okay i don't remember it well, what are the effects?

[dark phoenix]

eva, hold attack and keep spamming normal attack, easy clear

[bronze cypress]

1 big enemy boss with 4 health bars, stage effects are like, higher combo = more dmg

[rigid cedar]

and you HAVE to use himeko?

[bronze cypress]

nope, can use any of the trial valks they give you

[rigid cedar]

because she doesn't really scream high hitcount

[dark phoenix]

i mean she can solo all the stage

and they have her maxed out

[rigid cedar]

yeah sure

[formal wigeon]

oh it's the Assaka one

just be sure you target the hands

[rigid cedar]

just saying that greatsword valks aren't known for high HCs

that's more the case for single sword users

[bronze cypress]

got it

[rigid cedar]

or cross

[bronze cypress]

should I try to clear the other stages/farm the fake gacha stuff first? I can't really beat it right now

[dark phoenix]

can do that if you want, a bit of a waste but sure

[normal crane]

If i buy b-chips first the will my first tike bonus on crystals disappear?

[idle abyss]

no

[plush kernel]

Who would you choose? I have Herrscher of Human ego already SS and as I looked at the upgrades Herrscher of truth seems better

[cunning gull]

#👶beginner-help message check this

[thin wadi]

what affixes should i go for on love elfs stigmata set?

[eager smelt]

atk

[thin wadi]

thankuu

[obtuse lintel]

Would that even be enough for 4⭐ Kia elf?

or should i get S1 Sena

but she doesnt even have weapon

or just waste more to get Thele

[formal wigeon]

you need 78 frags

wait no

128

[obtuse lintel]

i can get 75 boxes

so 150 elf fragments

but i mean, is that even worth it? how many times do i use elfs now

[formal wigeon]

depends on what aops you have

[obtuse lintel]

DS and

DS

[formal wigeon]

4* Kiana is better than DS in pretty much all fire/lightning dps teams

except some niche cases where you really need the 5 starting ARi

[formal wigeon]

and sometimes for ice too

[obtuse lintel]

if i buy from supply shop i'd get her to S2

[formal wigeon]

Sena ranks are pretty much only for her as dps

which is used never atp

[obtuse lintel]

in some SD bosses

like last abyss

[formal wigeon]

she's like 3rd or 4th option

[obtuse lintel]

i mean, not as best option, but still exists

[obtuse lintel]

badum? paws and vita?

i mean, ive seen lots of refs for lots of abysses and they always use DS

[formal wigeon]

because it's the "relatable" option

[eager smelt]

because ds is good enough

but its not the best

[obtuse lintel]

well, most of them use aops when they can

[formal wigeon]

they might not have 4* Kiana either

[fleet flame]

How tf do you do this cube event

[obtuse lintel]

and i mean, if they already do it with their best teams using aops

why not use 4* kia elf

[eager smelt]

if u dont understand the rules just watch the walkthrough the game gives

[obtuse lintel]

may be but im not so sure about that too

[formal wigeon]

1 "best" run with all bis
1 "relatable" with DS

Kiana is somewhere in the middle

[fleet flame]

I tried following that and it still didn’t work😭 😭

[eager smelt]

blame the user not the game

try again

[obtuse lintel]

if their goal was to do the videos with something everyone would use, they would use DS always

[eager smelt]

the attack order matters

[eager smelt]

most people are skill issued and dont know how to get good scores with ds

[formal wigeon]

sometimes people do different things

shocker

[obtuse lintel]

but they always use Songque, Teri and Chenxue

[formal wigeon]

then they just don't have her

I mean what even is the point of that atp, who the hell knows what random guy making videos n°27 thinks

[obtuse lintel]

i always see the same 3 people

[formal wigeon]

point is 4* Kiana is better than DS

[obtuse lintel]

Dodoco, Hieu Le and Marisa (sometimes)

[formal wigeon]

hieu le does that ⬆️

[eager smelt]

because the good players either dont record or are in nirvana

so looking for rl refs wont give much

[crude cloak]

Akayuki has some RL refs too, but they're usually with AOs iirc

Or at the very least Kia

[obtuse lintel]

yeah, and in the best ones dont use 4* kia elf

[formal wigeon]

because Kia is worse than gacha aops

The upper bound is aops
the lower bound is DS

[obtuse lintel]

[formal wigeon]

kiana in the middle

[obtuse lintel]

and what makes her better?

[eager smelt]

more dmg

better than songque

[formal wigeon]

numbers bigger

[obtuse lintel]

AR charging works the same?

[formal wigeon]

yes

DS has nothing for that

[obtuse lintel]

i mean, as i said, ive never seen her being used except some specific cases i cant even point rn

so, if im watching a ref, i can use kia instead of DS and follow the same ref?

[formal wigeon]

because its not relevant for the purpose of their vids

[obtuse lintel]

[obtuse lintel]

ye i got that

[obtuse lintel]

but this

[formal wigeon]

yes

[obtuse lintel]

im more worried about that using kia elf wouldnt let me follow refs

[formal wigeon]

you start with 5 less ARi, but in RL that shouldn't change anything you don't double ring anyways

and you could take that opportunity to actually think about why the refs are doing what they do so you can improve on it

[eager smelt]

dont follow
learn the strats and improve on their mistakes

[obtuse lintel]

and then i become a youtuber to upload my refs

nah that'd take too much time for me

that would involve start reading all the skills and stuff ive never done

but unfortunately english is not my mother language even tho i can use it pretty well in general

and adding to that the moments when the text gets kinda confusing bc of how its redacted

nah i dont wanna suffer

[torn magnet]

whats a budget team i can use against sa that's p1?

ma + just for the rewards

[steady osprey]

im afraid u wont reach xtal reward with p1 team

[torn magnet]

gang are we cooked

wb sena and vita lul

[steady osprey]

maybe u can try with bleed team with the only p1 SD valk CE

CE LV HOTR/Eden

[torn magnet]

yass im using that exact team rn w eden wish me luck!!

wb the second boss?

[steady osprey]

sprout? no real advantage. try ur best MECH dps for type counter or anything not PSY

[torn magnet]

im gonna jump bro with vita

[steady osprey]

use CE to collect star dust when fighting Sa. if u leave the dust too long they will disappear

[torn magnet]

yee i recall, with her charged/combo!! ty

i'm lebron

nice i made it

bruh how do i dodge the horizontal attack

[half hatch]

You need to jump so limited to certain valks and p2 valks

[torn magnet]

ah hell nah

so vertical - dash, horizontal - jump?

[steady osprey]

yep. purple flash = evade, orange flash = jump

u can block/parry orange flash btw

with TA

[stoic crest]

Am I supposed to tune or PRI-ARM Divine Keys?

[eager smelt]

both

[stoic crest]

How can you do both?

[vernal terrace]

You can still pri arm it when it's tuned, just into only it's specific pri arm

[stoic crest]

So max level—>Tune—>PRI-ARM ?

[vernal terrace]

Can tune at 1/35

Then do the other two

[steady osprey]

u can tune at any time. it is separated. even after maxing lvl or priarm
tuning is the most recommended. tuned divine keys can be synchronized to activate universal passive atk

[fleet flame]

Bro this cube event

[steady osprey]

the ex stages need a bit of brain 😄

or ytb guide

[fleet flame]

I feel slow asf that I can’t get past 3 in the first area 😭

[steady osprey]

[eager smelt]

just watch the walkthrough if u dont understand it

[steady osprey]

elysia's tip

[fleet flame]

I legit have been following that and it still doesn’t spawn the thing 😭

[eager smelt]

go to sleep and do it another day

idk how its possible to fail to follow the walkthrough

ur prob tired

[fleet flame]

I can legit screen record, I’m struggling over here

[eager smelt]

ok

[steady osprey]

u need to turn around. notice the arrow indicating which way cubely facing

[quasi pier]

you're facing the wrong way, look at the arrow

[fleet flame]

Ok ty I am slow af

[dusky mantle]

amazing

all you gotta do is follow

arrow diff

[stoic crest]

Hi again :) is this a good combo?

[steady osprey]

until u have better valk to replace corAlie, yes

[dark phoenix]

better put full ogier on coralie

[steady osprey]

ogier T = 7% team ele. admunsen full set = 10% team ele

[dark phoenix]

that too

[steady osprey]

IreneT = 12% team ele. JST M = 15% team ice

about B pcs ireneB also work. but u should/can craft her own set instead of these lol

ruffle rewards seem less than last time

hi3 budget running out

[eager smelt]

hi3 players running out

less rewards for less players

[fervent musk]

[bronze cypress]

ok yeah nvm, himeko clears chapter 11, just didn't build her right lmao

[turbid kelp]

Hey hey i have a question, is it just me or did the event reset? I hadnt finish the EX stages and i got already the crystal. Do i really have to redo all the stages?

Oh and also is Thelema still meta pls?

[dark phoenix]

could be bug, try to relog

[dark phoenix]

she still have her top spot, the issue is we dont get content for her often, so she isnt worth it overall
||could be changed next patch but i dont expect much change if any||

[bronze cypress]

is there a reliable valk/battlesuit tier list?

[full trench]

no

also would be useless

[bronze cypress]

[turbid kelp]

Alright thx thx

[rare iris]

If I saw someone else's tier list that puts my beloved wife Mobius at the very top tier, I approve

Trust

[dusty dagger]

[zealous minnow]

Guys no try sparkle on carnival right? Next pull?

vita-songque?

[wraith hearth]

Guys should i level breakthrough? I pretty much have every team (except fire) 🙏

[zealous minnow]

Depend if they are p2

p1 aren't enough

[wraith hearth]

They are

[zealous minnow]

i don't know, probably

[wraith hearth]

Okay thanks

[zealous minnow]

depend on how mutch crystal you gain...if are 200 probably yes

[wraith hearth]

Is agony 3 hard?

[zealous minnow]

no, but redlotus it is

im again stack on agony3

[modern yew]

U always breakthrough, even if u only have 1 good valk

[wraith hearth]

Harder than masters red lotus?

[wraith hearth]

Ic

[modern yew]

Masters red lotus is about equal to ago3 on exalted

[zealous minnow]

all hit 21800 on redlotus and i do 21700, my hands aren't enough skilled

and my mind also, you need know exactly to play the team and is not easy

[vernal terrace]

[wraith hearth]

Ic, is there a huge difference of level 50 weapon and level 65? Also Level 45 stigs and 50

[wraith hearth]

Thankss

[weak drum]

oh and dont listen to fenis that much😭 he’s still quite a new player

[vernal terrace]

I'm newish and Exalted RL isn't that difficult to me

[weak drum]

he just refuses to learn rots when me and sairaan tried to help a year ago

[wraith hearth]

Oh😭🙏

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[weak drum]

oh and for this

[zealous minnow]

Dude on redlotus all doing 21800, me with 21700 lose rank all the time

[weak drum]

im assuming the level 50 weapon is already pri armed? @wraith hearth

[wraith hearth]

Lost my account in 2023 and just started early this year 🙏 p2 has been more f2p ngl my acc is already better then the one I had

[wraith hearth]

Yupp

[zealous minnow]

i'm just bad, but on redlotus have good players

[weak drum]

if so then the differences are just higher base stats and higher multipliers, same case for stigmata

[wraith hearth]

Is it recommended?

[vernal terrace]

Not really, would say the cycle last Friday not a lot of people in RL knew what they were doing

[weak drum]

you’re always recommended to max pri and max level the stigs, however you gotta know which weaps + stigs are actually worth it for you to do so

[weak drum]

(just ask us if you’re unsure)

[zealous minnow]

then im just unlucky to see top10 with 21800

[wraith hearth]

Okayy thanks also which signet is best for li sushang PR in elysian realm?

[weak drum]

check pins for an er guide

[wraith hearth]

Okay ty

[weak drum]

well yeah thats what i said

also rl doesnt really have that many good players to be fair

if they were good then they’d be in nirv

[zealous minnow]

aniway i think im right...you need know what exactly do your team and mindset, not just hands

i play this game passive

[weak drum]

mindset?

i mean i just copy refs and im pretty fine in rl

[zealous minnow]

you need remember the skill of pg and what buff give

[vernal terrace]

To me, it's if you know what rot to do and FPS isn't garbage

[weak drum]

i dont even know what most of the valks in my p2 roster do #truthbtw

[zealous minnow]

to go nirvana you need know the max damage you can do

[modern yew]

No need to rmb any of that u just copy good rots from youtube

[weak drum]

just gotta have the right team and decent hands

[modern yew]

[weak drum]

ehem.

[vernal terrace]

I try to follow Hieu Li's refs

[weak drum]

just copy refs and 90% of the time you’d be chill even if you cant execute some techs in the references

[zealous minnow]

what i mean is: Sometimes you press ulti with new coralie for exemple, sometimes you just do go to her do special atk weapon change

[weak drum]

i outdmg’d him so i moved to following eu nirv refs

[weak drum]

no? you do both?

[modern yew]

I dont really know any of my character kits in depts, but i still t100 sea server a few times

[weak drum]

you need to do enhanced weapon active and then ult

[vernal terrace]

He out damages me I believe

[zealous minnow]

depend...new coralie sometimes no do damage

[modern yew]

U just copy youtube refs for when u do it

[zealous minnow]

for exemple when was new elysia plus new coralie, boss was good vs fire def

[weak drum]

not this again

[dark phoenix]

in theory, yes
but that is someone else job to figure it out, most player just copy it on youtube
i can promote into nirvana but i know basically nothing about my valk

[vernal terrace]

FDD doesn't need to though when she's support?

[weak drum]

this is literally what happened in 2024

imma give you some good ref makers on youtube

https://youtube.com/channel/UCEslvw1FPWR3bUvWcQRYXNw?si=7rbTVb4eNsxt0SE7

[zealous minnow]

dude if boss is fire def your coralie do nothing

[weak drum]

https://youtube.com/@dodoco4571?si=eqaEawxdjC2GBDEC

there are also kr rl youtubers too

[vernal terrace]

That doesn't matter if she's support

[modern yew]

Why does she need to do dmg if she just supports tho, she is just there for her buffs

[weak drum]

but i dont remember their channel

[weak drum]

you dont need her to deal damage tho

you need her to give the team buffs

[vernal terrace]

^

[weak drum]

you need her as a support

as a buffer

yes on some bosses her damage does matter however i’d like you to put an emphasis on some

most of the time its very negligible

[vernal terrace]

The one who'll deal most is the leader

[weak drum]

aside from hohe

[vernal terrace]

True

[dark phoenix]

red lotus is a joke, just have correct valk and copy ref on youtube, easy

[vernal terrace]

Was gonna mention Flux Lantern also

[weak drum]

tbf lamp still did something outside of so

hohe is literally just “yo thel do my job for me”

[vernal terrace]

Wrong lamp

[weak drum]

oh wait

anyways thank god i didnt nirv on vill v

too annoying fr

[vernal terrace]

PAWS also did DMG a long side PS on lamp

[modern yew]

Need a ref fr fr

[zealous minnow]

aniway no try pull sparkle on carnival right? Will be Vita next banner?

[vernal terrace]

Time to figure out wtf to do when that opens

[dark phoenix]

just get 15k and sleep

[vernal terrace]

I mean I have PS

[weak drum]

you shouldnt pull for anyone on carnival actually

if you meant using the free 20 pulls then either badum or ps

if you already have both then ask us again

[weak drum]

idk what i was doing with opening and idk how i’d even do a clean ending

[vernal terrace]

God damn it ches

[weak drum]

teri is only s so i cant immediately so can i

[zealous minnow]

i have badum alredy

[weak drum]

then use the free 20 pulls on ps so you can have her as a support for niches such as hitcount

[dark phoenix]

the bottom line is better dont spend crystal or normal card on carnival

[weak drum]

^

[vernal terrace]

Did the 20 pulls on Vita

[zealous minnow]

helia i have her alredy, i missing only vita-sparkle-songque

[vernal terrace]

Songque not in carnival

[zealous minnow]

senadina-thelema, but this are old

[dark phoenix]

we're just saying, if you really want, go for it

[weak drum]

got badum from it

smh my schewpid bank is not allowing me to whailor

[vernal terrace]

Bad woman didn't like me

[weak drum]

L

[vernal terrace]

[zealous minnow]

i mean on case not use this two 20 pull? i gain crystals?

because this go expire soon

[weak drum]

if you dont use the free 20 then they’ll expire

[weak drum]

also ps is not helia (paws)

[zealous minnow]

or...if i try gain S1 badum?

[weak drum]

ps is pegerine sword or sushang

[weak drum]

its mid

also its s2 not s1 anymore

[vernal terrace]

Getting a dupe is S2

[zealous minnow]

so i can take sparkle

[weak drum]

if you dont have her then use it on her, if you have her then use it on vita i suppose

did you just ignore everything i just types

[zealous minnow]

because i miss sparkle-vita-songque(this 3 still on meta some abyss)

[vernal terrace]

Do you have bleed sushi?

[zealous minnow]

peregrine yes

[weak drum]

also sparkle without weapon will just drag your account down and then you’ll go here and complain on why you cant retain rl again

so just use the 20 pulls on vita

[vernal terrace]

Vita most can support your FDD

[zealous minnow]

i not have enough crystals to gain weapon aniway, is just to have crystals on ER

[weak drum]

vita is barely around now, so is songque, sparkle is relegated to ma strats for dudu

[zealous minnow]

because if i spend 13k crystals on vita im dead, need skip 2 patch

[weak drum]

you dont even have enough to hard pity her and her weapon so just use the free pulls and ignore carnival yeah

• dont use crystals
• free pulls on vita
• stop
• save

[weak drum]

.

[zealous minnow]

yep if i gain vita is enough, i will think if have crystals for her weap

[dark phoenix]

tbf, spending 20 pull on sparkle isnt the best idea, but it's not much worse if you dont play seriously, just keep your expectation in check

[vernal terrace]

If you don't get her, then it is what it is

[weak drum]

just ignore her weapon

[zealous minnow]

also because can be last time for vita

[weak drum]

.

[zealous minnow]

soon is useless on abyss

[vernal terrace]

Believe Sai mentioned Vita can be alright without her weapon as long she is support

[zealous minnow]

to do?