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[spiral raven]

yea, point is, he has to change stuff around if he wants to do sonk qte to get it ready

otherwise alternative is to do cora SO earlier, and then qte with sonk and not use it, the combo stored can carry over

for some reason if you do cora's shift, the next time you go into sonk, even if you didn't use the combo you lose it,

[glacial rune]

Thankfully, I don’t have this team so it doesn’t matter

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1344295703064612936/1139561526898991194.gif

[vernal terrace]

Me

[glacial rune]

Genuinely tho I think the problem child of this team is badum, she’s cool and all but the amount of clunk she has

[spiral raven]

i get u

[glacial rune]

People had to turn this clunk into animation cancels

Otherwise when you use her on something that’s not sd as a cope, you gotta know that any animation you accidentally skip, loses you dmg

And you def gonna skip it if going normal fast rotations

[surreal citrus]

PAWS is my fav part 2 valk and I rly want her on her upcoming rerun, but ik its basically objectively a bad choice to pull on reruns... how bricked would I be if i got her and skipped HLE? I already have 2 SD type dps

[open bone]

Spoiler the ||HLE|| mention

[spiral raven]

badum experience

[open bone]

what does your roster look like?

and what is your crystal count?

[glacial rune]

She’s cute so forgiven

[spiral raven]

[surreal citrus]

Thelema Vita Lamp Songque Sushang Durandal Sparkle HoFi Badum, I only have 8k crystals but I am guaranteed an S rank in 5 pulls so all I need is to go for PAWS weap

[glacial rune]

It’s not an objectively bad choice to pull on rerun, it all depends on a context

[open bone]

Hmm. It'll screw you if you're aiming for nirv and Paws without FDD is already tough but you should be able to maintain RL

so you wont lose much crystals from it

[surreal citrus]

Im ok with being in RL

[glacial rune]

Also paws was literally released last patch, I’m hearing too much “don’t pull for last patch valks” discourse that makes me concerned

Given all that, though, pretty bricked for some bosses

But it’s fine in RL

[surreal citrus]

Well, last time I was in here for advice a while back I was told that it's always a bad decision to backpull, lol...

[glacial rune]

Yeah, some people really do be saying pulling for fdd on rerun is bad too

[surreal citrus]

I was a little skepital about it too, how can it be a bad choice to pull for a valk that came out like a month ago

[glacial rune]

I find it quite insane

[open bone]

Backpulling is always worse than a new pull, generally, but if its a recent backpull its only moderately worse

and like, no battlesuit will ever pay for itself

so wasting crystals on someone you don't want for slightly better meta performance is

a bit silly

[surreal citrus]

I just thought that since im technically covered for SD type content, it shouldnt brick me too badly to backpull one time, since for the entire part 2 ive always gotten new valk

[open bone]

unless you want that meta goal

[glacial rune]

Any meta oriented person who knows that it’s not the case, but advice is mostly aimed at f2p/people who generally doesn’t care much for NV

And for that reason it’s prob good to say it’s “bad to backpull”

[open bone]

They'll do something like "||ice weather sd enemy||" or something to make sure ||HLE|| gets properly shilled but Badum + fish shouldn't demote

even with the fire down in ice weathers

Like will this be worse for your account than pulling ||HLE||, yes absolutely, will it brick it, not in the slightest

[glacial rune]

Sometimes your thought process works good though, but it’s ||HLE|| and hoyo will make sure she’s relevant for a long time

Like, we skipped some p1 valks like that

[surreal citrus]

As long as I can skip 8.5 and maintain RL I'll just pull for PAWS, ever since i didnt manage to get her last patch its irritated me that she isnt on my acc

[glacial rune]

~~Aponia and hare ~~

[open bone]

Yeah that should not be a problem

[glacial rune]

Besides, you can always try throwing pulls into ||HLE|| anyway

Maybe you’ll get lucky

[open bone]

yeah keep 17 in the bank and give her a trickle, why not

tho saori you probably want to spoil those mentions

[surreal citrus]

If I somehow manage to get her ill have to cope with HoH part 1 weapon... LMAO

[glacial rune]

You can always lucksacc both her and her wep

Chance is not zero

[vernal terrace]

||They actually are, Ice Epernay is now a thing in CN beta||

[fervent musk]

oh no... I'm so cooked

save me ai-chan

[vernal terrace]

[glacial rune]

Good thing my visa-chan should be ready by the time patch rolls out

[fervent musk]

if Hoyo brings back the 20% discount for Visa event, then I might be ok

[glacial rune]

More like

[fervent musk]

[glacial rune]

There’s probably permanent discount somewhere

Would be better with visa event tho but sadly I’m gatekept by only having Mastercard for cards that work abroad rn

[glacial rune]

Mine doesn’t, but all my Visa cards are ru-issued so they don’t work abroad due to sanctions

[fervent musk]

I see

[glacial rune]

So I’m only coping with 20% discount

[fervent musk]

[glacial rune]

They need a Mastercard event next

[fervent musk]

True

or make the Visa event permanent

[glacial rune]

[fervent musk]

I want to reduce my spending on games if possible lol

no more crystal or b-chip packs

just monthly card

[glacial rune]

Yeah would be a good idea probably

I also wanted to go to jp in Feb or March so I should be careful with spending as well

[fervent musk]

I should take a vacation

[glacial rune]

[gleaming relic]

who can i use to fight litost if i dont have dragon coralie

does fire hua ai chan hotr works

[open bone]

If you have geared FoV or Sirin I would try them. Idt trio has enough ignite but might be worth a shot? And ofc LoA can always do okay if you have it

[gleaming relic]

yeah tried the trio and works just enough to get max rewards

[elfin parrot]

@open bone i just realized there's three ratings for the crystal tasks https://i.imgur.com/kJua82f.png
https://i.imgur.com/4prSxn3.png
https://i.imgur.com/Ye2RrDq.png

SS and SSS gives the same crystals but the coins is what changes. figures

[open bone]

Huh yeah go figure

[hoary pebble]

I know that I'm doing something wrong but im not sure what exactly

[spiral raven]

at 970 u broke the first breakpoint but u never picked the shards wirh badum weap, by the time u cast weap at 956, the shards alr disappearedd

should try to always pick the shards up when u hit those breakpoints

and at 945 after u finished casting wa, u have broke another breakpoint, u should try to pick those shards up with using wa as well, note u dont need wa to fully finish to pick shards up

and i havent watched the rest but if u try to pick up shards before they expire then thats prob a boost to ur score

[hoary pebble]

thank you

i was trying to replicate Hieu Les rot but i guess i didnt do it very well

[spiral raven]

if you are following his ref, then at certain time frames you might see pink numbers, those pink numbers are the dmg from the shards you pick up

if you see pink numbers being dealt on someone other than badum, and the current onfield char did not gather the shards, very likely that before swapping to said char, you were on badum and would press wa and then swap off very quickly, so said char get the shards

[hoary pebble]

i see

[sleek imp]

how do i get JDS CA during transition with fdd evading clocks?

[elfin parrot]

first of all pay attention to your evade skill cd. That's what's triggering JDS QTE which is what fills the CA meter. If the skill cd is ready early, then just let FDD tank the hit without evading until the last laser. You'll lose some ARI/sp this way ofc.

The qte does need to hit something though. There's a small window at the end of evading the last laser where you can hit something. FDD evade > FDD ult > JDS QTE should work

i wouldn't be surprised if there's something wrong in my explanation somewhere tbh but at least it should work mechanically

when you swap to JDS, the cora buff should be active so look out for that too above your hp meter

[boreal eagle]

sp on cora with all the evades increases cora dmg ?

[elfin parrot]

idk fdd's kit tbh. but it'll help jds at least

whether it's significant or not will depend on your account

[spiral raven]

or u try a diff way where u use cora shift earlier

[boreal eagle]

ye i heard more sp = more dmg on cora but idk if is true or is only for the ult

[half hatch]

if you were below 100SP before the evades yes slightly

only for ult

[boreal eagle]

oh k k

[half hatch]

nvm it's like below 20 SP

confused it with the up to 100% in my memory

[sleek imp]

that works

[half hatch]

100 SP is max dmg for level 3 ult

and 40 SP is max dmg for level 2

[boreal eagle]

how many level has the ult i count 4 if i hold all the way

nvm first one is considered level0

[half hatch]

ult is always at least level 1

[boreal eagle]

instead song has some cap in sp for ult dmg ?

[sleek imp]

bruh what is this bracket

[half hatch]

both have a cap on their ult dmg, songques is at ~137SP

[spiral raven]

u jump eva with cora anyways cuz u ult late no

unless u kill it much sooner ig, then sure can swap to jds sooner and let she do some eva

[boreal eagle]

ok this could be useful cora no i just use level 1 dmg and skip 2 and 3 i should have 20sp

[dusky mantle]

Damn

U think i can squeeze out 740?

[spiral raven]

i have faith in u

[dusky mantle]

No ranks no aop huhu

No syncs

[spiral raven]

i believe

[dusky mantle]

You go first

[spiral raven]

i skeeo

u go

[warped inlet]

Fate defying dragon or Reign Solaris?
I don’t have the cooler Helia btw

[crude cloak]

What is this slacc score

[crude cloak]

If you can afford 8.5 as well it's the former by a massive margin

With weap ofc

[crude cloak]

Otherwise it's likely neither

[crude cloak]

Definitely not RS

[sleek imp]

don't be too relaxed

[warped inlet]

So keep trying and hope I get coralie early?

[crude cloak]

Nice

[crude cloak]

How many crystals do you have rn?

[warped inlet]

I’m at 60 for valk and 4 for weapon
But I already have Solaris from an accident a while ago

[crude cloak]

Remind me the lineup

Full S0 with SS Teri I assume?

[sleek imp]

full s0 with fdd +2, ss teri

[crude cloak]

Should be able to 777 then

(or a bit higher)

[spiral raven]

what eu d

[sleek imp]

do you work for AWS?

[crude cloak]

What's the joke xdd

[sleek imp]

the running joke is amazon web services provides predictions during F1 but they are often wack so it was dubbed absolutely wrong statistics

[crude cloak]

lmao

[sleek imp]

so what's the reasoning behind hihger score

[crude cloak]

My prediction is based on mimi's ref

It has SSS Teri, but at SEA dist

[sleek imp]

alright, ill have a look then

[crude cloak]

iirc it wasn't perfect, hence the "a bit higher"

[sleek imp]

544

[spiral raven]

there's no better rot for you to follow? sea rots are like 7d diff no

[sleek imp]

not really

[crude cloak]

I'd love to see an S Teri run

Can't SO in P2 without SS

I assume you just eat the disadvantage though without changing the run much

[dusky mantle]

Wew

[sacred cape]

Anyone got a quick 6S ref for abyss thanks

[dusky mantle]

My my

Sixth serenade user

[boreal eagle]

use this https://honkai-guide.web.app/#/

[naive shoal]

is there any gameplay for this abyss boss with paws fdd vbm (or fdd dps is fine)

[vernal terrace]

Probably not to either

[boreal eagle]

impossibile in this cases u cook for yourself or accept the demote

[naive shoal]

my end is near 💔

[full trench]

fdd dps is probably better since paws has trouble with only one symbiosis support but you're gonna have to cook the rot yourself, familiarize yourself with how to play vbm if you don't understand her yet

[sleek imp]

iz progrez

[full trench]

776 when

[sleek imp]

where's your 776

[full trench]

i have ds bro

what do u want me to do

[sleek imp]

your best and im just jerking chains

[full trench]

i did mald a lot and actually im pretty happy with my score, got 756

[sleek imp]

[full trench]

[hushed wraith]

[dusky mantle]

Dang

[rigid cedar]

is there anything without RS i could run in RL for HoD?

[spiral raven]

ur highest dps team

[crude cloak]

I think you're overestimating EU RL

[rigid cedar]

its more that i don't know how much score RS gives

if ppl remember to ult, i don't see how you can screw it up that much

my only alternative for core penetration is HoO but the debuff makes that a non-option (except trio i guess?)

[crude cloak]

Trio ain't that good in that department anyway

[rigid cedar]

so i just go paws with chenxue?

[spiral raven]

sounds like it, most ppl prob bruteforced with hoh tho

just cuz they had the most ranks on it

[formal wigeon]

yeah that's exactly why it shifted from img weather to phys weather

[digital sky]

HoO could definitely work right?

[formal wigeon]

not on phys weather

[digital sky]

What other options do i have?

[boreal eagle]

PE SSS

[digital sky]

I got badum, HoH(no thelema) and sparkle (no wep) iirc
7.3 7.7 7.8 7.9 8.1 8.3

[formal wigeon]

your highest dps thing that isn't lightning

[digital sky]

Badum.

Or HoH

[digital sky]

U think HoRb would work?

HoRb 4/4
Prom.. 4/4
HoS ...0/4 GPN Cosmic

[formal wigeon]

if you think HRB does more dmg than badum

[digital sky]

Badum it is

[digital sky]

What badum supports?

I got Vita HoH Helia Sparkle(wepless)

HoH Sparkle.?

[half hatch]

iirc i did just fine fine with PS last time

prob even better now since i dont have to use vita

[rigid cedar]

yea good riddance

shouldn't be too bad

besides i just want to retain anyway

[rigid cedar]

or i tank -100 on Sa and try to go all out on HoD

[mortal jetty]

PS badum jds or PS badum sparkle

[steel fable]

Is there any team I can make that can score 730 against Sa on Redlotus?

They all have their gear

[lapis raven]

sena vita hfi got me 760 on sea

but i hv s2 s2 +2

750 shd be doable on na

esp if u hv kia4

[feral fjord]

guys, i was back to get Elysia in the future patch, but other than her, which valk that are best to pull first? after i got Elysia of course

[lapis raven]

https://medal.tv/clips/l9k1TZC3j-kMERcRp
@steel fable

[mortal jetty]

Fdd

[feral fjord]

who the hell is FDD

[craggy plume]

Fate defying dragon

[feral fjord]

already got her

[rigid cedar]

the other thing in that patch ||horb dk||

also spoiler future valks by adding || between the name

[shell quail]

is there a way to figure out how to 0sec Lantern

I can't seem to time the 2nd phase

she's immune to dmg even when her hp is full and she's attacking me already, the sus ani is really screwing up the timing

[lapis raven]

what team

[shell quail]

HoO double Kiana

can't thele cuz no thele

[lapis raven]

isnt it just ult p2

then p1 is qte wa eva

[elfin field]

I'm missing JD's combo stacks here for some reason, unlike in the vid
https://youtu.be/GXCZ5mLWWJU?t=110
edit: okay, it's written in the comments

qte is hitting what

[rigid cedar]

it's still possible regardless, timer continues only when she's vulnerable

[shell quail]

problem is

that's during my ult

so I lost all my dmg at that point

[rigid cedar]

you need to kill with ult

[shell quail]

I am aware

[rigid cedar]

i mean what are your moves for phase 1?

[shell quail]

but it's throwing me off she's attacking me during transition and immune to dmg, only once it happened so that's nice

[rigid cedar]

idk, she's just kneeling in my runs

then she gets up, those 8x hp bars regen and as soon as they did the invuln wears off

[shell quail]

well

I get different regen times

there's one where she regens to x4, and the bar immediately goes x8 after x4

and there's another where she regens to x8 slowly

making my newt wear off

[rigid cedar]

wait you don't have newt on hoo?

[shell quail]

I do

I just said it wears off

[rigid cedar]

weird, in my test runs it doesnt...

[shell quail]

nvm I got it now

haiss

annoyed at the timing

newt left 0.1sec

before it disappears

[rigid cedar]

but it reapplies immediately-

newt isn't mei beach

[shell quail]

no, I meant the 5sec

there's no way it reapplies after the 5sec duration while the effect is on cd does it

[rigid cedar]

okay yea you're right, my mistake. 10s cd

[shell quail]

ya the slow x8 hp regen

screws that a bit

I literally left 0.1sec

if you see the newt icon, the blue bar when it hits 50%, means the debuff is gone

I know it's gone when I'm doing 600k instead of 900k

and ofc the x4 skip to x8 regen is only a thing on 1st run no exit...

[rigid cedar]

you just taught me something i probably should've known months ago

[shell quail]

as always, the invul is finnicky on retries..

[rigid cedar]

yea, no idea how it changes

[shell quail]

it changes because of some stupid tick rates the game runs

if you're lagging right as you start the battle, the boss just starts being stupid

happens to me a lot, like Sushang in Abyss being one of the most insufferable bosses

untargettable but already on field and hitting you

which happen for lantern for me, invul in phase 2 but attacking me ;v

[rigid cedar]

here's how i did it btw, needs some retries for 0s tho

slow 8x regen

the only reason i'm not on the leaderboard is because i need hofi on litost

[shell quail]

I got no FDD

so I'll just sack the score

[rigid cedar]

understandable

[shell quail]

time to do stupid stuff

[rigid cedar]

although even hofi is enough ignite to get litost's transition phantoms

not sure about whatever that weird shield thing is in phase 1

[shell quail]

oh right I have sena

fuck I might not have time

[rigid cedar]

enough to clear

or do you want to mald the best score

[shell quail]

nah I have 8min left

[rigid cedar]

ah-

possible to kill in that time

[shell quail]

no I got 2 SSS not done

[rigid cedar]

you got this, i believe

[shell quail]

running 0 ignite

well I got no time

[mortal jetty]

U are aware that u can play vita instead of hofi on litost right ?

[rigid cedar]

i thought she was worse without ranks-

but to be honest, i just did a stupid thing and locked her into a 1s with hoh and thel while thinking more isn't possible with what I have now

that's on me really

[formal forge]

[full trench]

she's barely slower and if u need the damage she isn't slower

[shell quail]

it's fine

overall more score if you earn 4sec faster with HoFin than Vita

[formal forge]

I just did that one with susan, why not

[vernal bronze]

Don’t have time for abyss

Fat fingered

[south matrix]

with this team wich supp could be better,elf kiana or chenxue

[modern yew]

Dreamseeker

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/GXCZ5mLWWJU?si=NsCkLnZOwcOFicxS at the end of transistion, how does they songque have their charge?

[formal wigeon]

qte

[pale musk]

I figured it out. Just FDD ult cost any points?

[formal wigeon]

probably between 0.5 and 1 point because of end lag

[pale musk]

ok, and in the ref, does badum's tap weapon make contact with Sa before they switch in both parts?

https://youtu.be/ccl7ldcNKLY what can I do to get a better score?

[leaden fjord]

Is it possible to speed run elysia realm with elysia HoHe in like 30 mins before it resets

[glacial rune]

Should be, if you do lite esp

[crude cloak]

With 20+ mins to spare

[pale musk]

Ok, better one but still dk if I'm safe. https://youtu.be/N0SwGX663DE Is there something big I should be doing?

[vernal terrace]

Oof to me

[crude cloak]

Try doing JDS QTE + CA + ult -> Badum QTE + CA + WA (might not need to play out the whole WA ani depending on your damage) -> JDS QTE

At the very end

[normal cloak]

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[crude cloak]

Also this is probably the slackest bracket in the world

[crude cloak]

@full trench DS is god, just tough bracket luck

[vernal terrace]

I have an explanation for my score

[pale musk]

how much animation is enough animation? Like at what point should I switch?

[crude cloak]

Consider not doing the entire WA anis in some other places in your run

Though idk whether you have enough time for that

[open bone]

I have an explanation for my score too, it’s called “I don’t have any SD battlesuits”

This is why I had 640

[crude cloak]

Almost none

Just get a feel for the point when the WA for sure gets registered before the swap

iirc it only takes 1 pt?

[vernal terrace]

FWS needs JDS and Teri op in Nirv

[crude cloak]

Yeah, you don't

[vernal terrace]

Almost finalization time

[crude cloak]

It's purely to gather the shards if it wasn't clear

But you might need the whole WA if you sliver

[open bone]

I have none of those three

If I get ||HLE|| and Badum next patch maybe I can stop -100 on SD content

[vernal terrace]

I know
But I'm screwed on certain bosses without JDS

[crude cloak]

Oh, absolutely

idk about getting Badum atp tho

[vernal terrace]

Carnival

[open bone]

Yeah she’s my carnival target

[glacial rune]

Def worth for Nirvana

[crude cloak]

For free? Sure
Spending xtals? Doesn't sound worth

[open bone]

What else do I spend crystals on, then, horb dkey synergies with no horb

[crude cloak]

Just wait for another SD valk, they're being printed

[pale musk]

at badum part do I do the full sequence with the big snake attack or just hold?

[crude cloak]

I meant regular WA

[glacial rune]

Badum seem to be existing in virtually every team lately tbf

[crude cloak]

The drum, not the snake

[glacial rune]

And I’m pretty sure she still has life left in her

Also ma

[crude cloak]

||Well, look at JDS, similar fate is likely to strike Badum||

[glacial rune]

Jds doesn’t have anything going for her

[crude cloak]

Yup, exactly

[glacial rune]

Badum can reset qtes just buy doing head slam

By*

And has pretty fast animations

• elemental

[vernal terrace]

In LoA, CA can
GoI it's her Ult
Idk about WS

[crude cloak]

I don't think being elemental is a particular advantage xdd

[glacial rune]

Phys always has it worse and usually only one valk viable

Idk if you noticed

Was like this since bke

[pale musk]

oops, well either way I retained. t91 to.

[full trench]

i better +100 on dudu weather somehow to make up for my bracket luck

[glacial rune]

Well, my point is that she’s likely not dead at least for the next few patches and after that still gonna have shell life

[vernal terrace]

Broken support is why

[glacial rune]

But in the end it all depends on hoyo

[glacial rune]

Yeah

We’re all just playing guessing game

Some valks live surprisingly long even if there’s nothing really special about them

[vernal terrace]

||WoD and WS is gonna get a small revive next patch||

[glacial rune]

The only few disasters of valks lately are yeepy Teri, lantern, hare (arguably), aponia and v2v, and the only anni Herscher level valk they did dirty was HoFs

HoH still had use for a long time, Hofi is hofi, PE was literally there for almost 3 years

[vernal terrace]

Aponia and V2V got replaced

[glacial rune]

And badum is also anni char

• Chinese themed

Stonks

[vernal terrace]

CNY
Glblul anni

Vita is CN Anni

[glacial rune]

Yeah, usually 2 anni chars per year

Bita still also finding a lot of use even if not that strong lately

And a good cope

Washed as a dps tho

I’m pretty sure there are gonna be ||HLE|| teams we’d want badum in as well

[vernal terrace]

Slow but was the only Breach support for LoA at the time (WoD still had Sena, while WS- Vita is BiS in certain teams)

[vernal terrace]

Likely SD bosses

[glacial rune]

And since it’s hoyo’s new cooked element it’s likely gonna be no badum = demot

For new bosses

[vernal terrace]

Nothing also resists it

[glacial rune]

[vernal terrace]

Strong against itself
Neutral against everything else

[glacial rune]

Yeah like all their shitty elements

That aren’t original

[crude cloak]

"Washed" implies that she was good and became worse

[glacial rune]

Each next one is worse than the last

[crude cloak]

But Vita DPS always was pretty niche, no?

[glacial rune]

Yeah, if not ss

[vernal terrace]

Wasn't it mostly Birb?

[glacial rune]

But now even ss is washed

Still tho, yeah, bita still finds use, and I kind of expect badum to be the same

[shrewd python]

how to get past here?

[glacial rune]

Need sand surfin

[vernal terrace]

More or so WS and FDD dps
WoD if she's ranked

[shrewd python]

but i can't get through this to get the bearspook

[glacial rune]

You can cause earthquake?

Iirc

[shrewd python]

i tried it didnt work

[glacial rune]

[vernal terrace]

They need the little sand fry from pardo to get the sand fish

[glacial rune]

Surprised you remember this

I didn’t pay attention and just pressed check, and sand dish crafted itself

[shrewd python]

where do i find pardo

[glacial rune]

Isn’t she in base?

[shrewd python]

oh

[vernal terrace]

Yeah, the main hub area

[vernal terrace]

I was invested in the event despite it's extreme time gates

[glacial rune]

[shrewd python]

how do i craft the fish sand thing

turn it into a sidekick

[vernal terrace]

Did you buy it from pardo?

[shrewd python]

yes

OH I DIP IT IN THE WATERY SAND

[vernal terrace]

Interact with this sand

[shrewd python]

oh i got it THANK YOU

[vernal terrace]

Oop

[vernal terrace]

My favorite event though is the restaurant one in 8.2 tbh

[glacial rune]

I still have those events

Too long to do tho

[vernal terrace]

Fair

[split junco]

help pls where to get?

[dusky mantle]

Go swim in the beach. Currents to the left

[sleek imp]

where 60 xtals one?

[elfin parrot]

does that exist

i'm not aware of that one lol

[sleek imp]

cant find the ss

[elfin parrot]

no rush but yeah i would be interested in seeing it lol

[solar oar]

how to do this guys

[rigid cedar]

just to be clear, do you need just crystal task screenshots or a collection of every task i roll?

not sure if drop rates for only crystals or also for other mats are what you were asking for

and if so, just apho 2 for now or other OWs too

[elfin parrot]

i'm not looking to collect or document any data myself

i was asking if you would be interested in doing so

[rigid cedar]

i see

[elfin parrot]

since you've documented numerous other things already

[rigid cedar]

then I'll do it

[elfin parrot]

no obligations of course

but yeah feel free to call the shots

[rigid cedar]

will be weird to not speedrun open world tasks but it's probably worth it in the end

[elfin parrot]

in an ideal world, all sorts of details would be recorded but i mean that's kinda unreasonable and insignificant

[rigid cedar]

in an ideal world, hoyo would have an api record it for us and disclose it for free

[elfin parrot]

ultimately people mainly care about the crystal tasks so at least focus on that

yeah lol

this isn't as primary but rather secondary but

i know one friend who pulled weapon info from an api off of some jp site

if you want to take that direction maybe you can dig something up that way

[rigid cedar]

huh, so those do exist?

[rigid cedar]

Also, idk if my stats will be totally accurate. i have some valks from OW tasks on SSS but not all. I will mention which those are when I record things

[dark phoenix]

jump up, freeze the fire, push the hay stack to the left, break the rock, raise the floor

[rigid cedar]

maybe we can determine the actual rate for those if the percentage for other fragment valks are equal

[elfin parrot]

i can't find the site but you can prob find something if you search jp wikis for old vintage weapon like ap turret cross and what story nodes they used to drop from

[elfin parrot]

if you don't want to do it daily then consider joining a beta and freely dumping your crystals there for ow task resets

[elfin parrot]

as long as you document in detail without assumptions at least there's that to always go back to which wouldn't be contestable and therefore accurate

but obviously even with mass crowdsource data there's still a limit to what conclusions we can say

but with enough data, such conclusions would be enough for practical purposes

and tbh none of this is necessary and prob won't change any ongoing practices or recommendations for now

crystal tasks are just going to be rare and rng. The main note of interest is which map gives the best rates for them which supposedly is apho

[plush kernel]

Hello. Is there some kind of training room where is training dummy and I could try my characters there?

My friend wants me to show him some characters... I always did it in memorial arena but its closed now.:/

[dark phoenix]

i guess you can use character trial for that

may not all be your character but can still show something

[half hatch]

There's sadly nothing like that outside of beta, you would have to wait until abyss/MA opens later today/tomorrow

[vocal wind]

which affixes does herrscher of flamscion need on the murata himeko stigmatas?

[mortal jetty]

Psy attack , gun attack , flat att

[opal veldt]

If I skip out on brick in favor of Cora weapon synergy, any ideahow long would I likely be waiting for it to show up again (BP basically)

[mortal jetty]

Do u already have dxy sword?

[crude cloak]

Well, the latest dkey addition is 7T, and it came out in 5.8, while Brick did in 7.0

There also is SoE:AE, which came out in 6.1 but is still not there

[crude cloak]

||It's not being added in 8.5 either||

Essentially it'll take multiple patches at the very least

[crude cloak]

7T was added this patch

[pale palm]

I got demoted to Agony 3 where is it extremely easy for me but I wonder if it is possible to score higher than this
There is the attack animation and the boss phase switch,all that takes time

[mortal jetty]

U can try to record a run and we can see how to improve if its possible

[pale palm]

dudu charged=> qte to fdd=>weapon active and ult=>dudu ult when the boss appears(this instantly kills it)=>switch to sparkle and ult and I switch to dudu.
the ult is ready after a charged attack,then I ult and the SO is also ready after that so I use it
I use it on dudu and she kills the boss
there is really no a second wasted without doing damage except the part when the boss switches phases and his hp is at 0 so I will do no damage if I attack

I will most likely mess up if I do a recording and score lower than this

[vague flame]

i dont have durandal and sushang am i cooked

[mortal jetty]

U have sus?

[shrewd python]

Help please improve my run

21843 RS FDD PS all full gear

[lapis raven]

dont need to wait for mobs to spawn before going rs ca in opening

why u doing basics on ps dawg

try skipping fdd super qte and go straight to ps then rs again

[shrewd python]

Idk what to do when im on ps

what do I do

[lapis raven]

for opening just go straight to rs to clean up

so after ps ult, qte rs, ca, wa

after rs ult on p1, qte ps and tap wa to get ari then so insta

[shrewd python]

Im redoing it and I can’t seem to get above 820

[vague flame]

who can i use for abyss boss if i dont have dudu or sus

[pale palm]

no

[lapis raven]

try trio

[vague flame]

i dont have hotr would eden or anything else suffice

[lapis raven]

hoo dps wont work since lightning down so no, try any other p2 team u hv that isnt lightning dps

fws dps cld work, but u wont be doing well for sure

if ure an older player u can consider triple supp with ta, or even pe if u hv that

[formal wigeon]

the level of cope in there is insane

[shrewd python]

Ok i made a lot of mistakes at the end but point still stands

idk how I got 843 with such a shit run b4

[vague flame]

Idk abotu PE but I have ta

[formal wigeon]

just throw your strongest non-lightning p2 team at it

[vague flame]

terminal aids has her wep but thats it i dont know if itd even work

ill try out some teams and hope that i wont rank down

[vague flame]

uhh aide* or smth i dont remmeber what

i think im cooked this abyss ill just let it go and stop coping

[shrewd python]

Yeah even with the tips i continue to go sub 800 help 😭😭😭

[opal veldt]

Brick and Ely key are the only ones I don't have

[opal veldt]

Hmm so the only non-part 2 keys left to be added are SoE and Brick right?

[rigid cedar]

you're forgetting to use PS entirely

read the tips again

[rigid cedar]

qte into her and use weapon for astral ring drain

and especially buffs you're constantly missing in phase 1

i can give a more detailed rundown if you want

[shrewd python]

Yes pls im so confused

[rigid cedar]

okay, so basically every valk has some buffs on their stigmas and weapons. in order to trigger those you need to do certain actions on them.

in sushang's case, this happens on qte and the second weapon attack

fdd wants ult to be used

and both have buff duration timers that tick down. before those timers are over your buffs need a refresh

[shrewd python]

I see fdd’s but not sushang’s buffs above the hp

[rigid cedar]

yea the game is very inconsistent with those indicators

[formal wigeon]

The vast majority don't have one

[rigid cedar]

thankfully the timed buffs are usually either on ult (for fdd and lp) or in the stigma 3 piece description

usually at the beginning

most of these last 25 seconds

[shrewd python]

Can I record my run again with this advice

Im getting around 21850 is that ok

[rigid cedar]

yes of course

we can go through as many attempts as you want

[shrewd python]

Thank you i need the help LOL

[rigid cedar]

woah okay this is MUCH better than before

proud of you

[shrewd python]

Thank you 🥹

[rigid cedar]

there's more wiggle room still if you like to improve

but more minor things

[shrewd python]

is 857 the best i can get bc thats what I have so far

[rigid cedar]

you can go higher

[shrewd python]

I’ll try go higher then

[rigid cedar]

try to time RS's charged attack to HoD's second phase recovery

and the ending could be done quicker with a qte to a support instead

[shrewd python]

Oh okay got it so instead of basic attacking on Dudu?

[rigid cedar]

yea

[lapis raven]

its eu bro surely -20d makes up for it

[rigid cedar]

when your qte icons glow brighter, it will shoot a spear along with your normal qte, while also giving you stellar energy

[lapis raven]

i can show u my rl run if u want, but it wont be a 1 to 1 copy for u

[rigid cedar]

the spear is from RS, so its Imaginary damage

which will definitely kill

[formal wigeon]

Still 50 higher than when PE was relevant

[lapis raven]

ohno

[formal wigeon]

PE era was like 450 nirv

[lapis raven]

honestly just skip the rs basics

just do rs ca -> wa

if that dont clean up nicely then ruh roh

also try using cdm emblem

[shrewd python]

Where?

[shrewd python]

what’s that

[lapis raven]

on the mobs

[shrewd python]

I don’t have any cdm emblems but I have some other generic ones - do I need to display/collect them for the thing to take effect?

The collect button what does it do

[rigid cedar]

you can get it for free from Aesir Files. some very old challenge stages you can very likely clear

[rigid cedar]

pins emblems to the top of the list

[shrewd python]

to get the effects of the emblems tho do I need to display it

on my profile

[rigid cedar]

yes

you can only have one equipped

otherwise it would be just unfair for new players. if every emblem effect would apply at once, old players would just permanently statcheck you

because the majority of the emblems were event exclusives

thankfully the best ones are more tied to your abyss and ma performance

[shrewd python]

I only have the agony one on display

Haha i still can’t get past 857

It’s okay im happy with that

thank you for the help!

[rigid cedar]

here's a list for good emblems in case you want to search for them

like i said before, you can get Subspace Annihilator already and that alone can improve your score a bit (crit dmg kinda goated)

glad i could help either way

[shrewd python]

Where do you find Aesir files?

Nvm found it HAHA

[rigid cedar]

Attack > Challenge > Deep Archives incase you lose it again

[shrewd python]

Omg my p1 valks are horrifying

[rigid cedar]

oh yeah, i forgot about that restriction

you could demolish stuff with stellar key valks though if you have them

although I'm not sure if astral ring is even enabled, there is no slot for elfs nor aops

i remember beating it with a lot of copium

[shrewd python]

Fr look at my super meta team

[rigid cedar]

okay um.. at least try to make them sense

that horb can be benched for pardo for example

or kira. either way, 2 ice supports

[lapis raven]

3 supports no dps

[rigid cedar]

that also works

used to be popular for a time, albeit with full gear that allows full buff uptime

[shrewd python]

My JK is lvl 1 no gear and my pardo is like lvl 35 no gear

Is it even worth swapping off HoHe atp?

[rigid cedar]

if she has full gear she is worth the effort tbh

maybe swap jk for someone else

pardo gear doesn't matter, just keep doing the purple combo on her and equip her with copium stigs like fhm mb + ogier t

[lament prairie]

what team for abyss

no fws, dudu s0+3, others s0+1

I'm seeing the most random bullshit ever in the leaderboard

[vernal terrace]

[mortal jetty]

Dudu sus sparkle or songque i would say

[formal wigeon]

no Cora ?

[mortal jetty]

Cora bad

[formal wigeon]

damn

does she not have phys buffs ?

[mortal jetty]

She does ...but she is slow on this fight

Dudu is still coping with trash support in big 2025

[mortal jetty]

Cora can do 810+

[digital sky]

So whos the best non dudu or Trio dps (no hotr) and non physical

For this abyss

[half hatch]

From what I've heard she's not that bad though she's probably worse in gblul/sea cuz breach is less valuable with lower dist

Iirc there were some like s2 dudus with Fdd+ps in CN myriad

[half hatch]

Tbh most cops options won't be great here just use ur highest DPS unit that isn't debuffed like FWS/fdd

The usual brute forcers like vita or paws are sadly debuffed here

[digital sky]

If only HoO could work

[quasi pier]

just pray there isn't 10 rs users in your bracket

[digital sky]

Eep

[full trench]

whats the best sushang team this abyss

[weak oracle]

I assume we're running dudu-sushang-badum this time around?

[half hatch]

Should be ps/fdd/FWS ig

[full trench]

that lines up with what's been the best for me

i feel like it should be less than a 100 point gap though idk how to make the adds in p1 better

figured it out nvm

[stone frigate]

Help in Elysia event going left is "Q" and openning daily quest is "Q" too how can I change the control please ?

[stiff wigeon]

Can anyone send me a video or guide for abyss? Without using badum

[open bone]

Who do you have?

[primal trail]

can i use dracora in hohe team?

[open bone]

Uh as HoHE lead it’s not ideal

But as far as cope options go it’s not the worst if you’re lacking better ones

[primal trail]

nah i have vita

[open bone]

They can both be on the same team for GoI and LoA teams but HoHE can’t lead those

Yeah vita is better

[primal trail]

it was just a question cuz dracora buffs r better so

[open bone]

Yeah they’re better but they’re ring locked and HoHe isn’t GOI/LOA/ROO

[quasi pier]

they're better for GoI, LoA and RoO valks. hohe is WoD

so vita is better in hohe teams

[primal trail]

yea thank u

what's best set for truth dps, her own?

[cunning gull]

the thing is, you don't play hotr dps

[quasi pier]

hotr dps is worse than hohe with her old gear

her own set should still be her best set for both support and dps

[plucky lotus]

you can change settings in the main menu phone. There should be like open world or chibi

[wild wolf]

my current team is thelema, kira, and pardo, should i replace kira or pardo with valkyrie blastmetal?

[crude cloak]

Depends on your gear situation
Any of those lacking in that department?

[wild wolf]

i dont have any of their weapons or stigmata. i could craft the p2 stigmatas but im hesitating because im saving up for the next update

[crude cloak]

How many crystals and Prisms do you have rn? ||Do you have HoRb?||

[wild wolf]

unfortunately i dont have her ☹️ i have 20 prisms and 13k crystals

[crude cloak]

Any built pity on the valk and weap banners?

[wild wolf]

weapon is around 50 and valk is 38

[crude cloak]

I hope Thele's not included here xdd
You can craft VBm's sig set (Tsiolkovsky) and keep it at lvl 35 if your Fuel allows that

Is your Kira SS+ btw

[crude cloak]

Going beyond lvl 35 on Tsio is not really worth in general

[wild wolf]

nope

[wild wolf]

so id be replacing pardo with vbm?

[crude cloak]

Nah, replace Kira

Before SS she's worse than Pardo

[wild wolf]

alright

thanks for the help!

[crude cloak]

So, was Thele included there or no?

If she was, it complicates things a bit

[wild wolf]

oh yeah i dont have any of her gear either 😭 i just got her by luck on the returnee banner thing

[crude cloak]

[wild wolf]

i considered pulling for her gear too but i really wanna save up for the next update

[crude cloak]

The issue is that Thele really wants her weap as the DPS (loses like 60% of her damage without it) and ||she can't support the 8.5 valk||

[crude cloak]

But ye, getting her weap is not worth atp

[crude cloak]

ig you can rock copium like Peary or Scott on her for now and bench her in 8.5+

Also, it's a good idea if you show your valks + weaps + stigs, it might be better to make a new acc in your case

[crude cloak]

The returnee event is garboleum and it doesn't sound like you have much

[wild wolf]

i dont care abt the meta that much to start over

[crude cloak]

It's not even purely about meta

It'll help with waifu pulling a lot as well

Up to you ofc

[wild wolf]

ive alrd saved up too much so yeah 😭 i feel like my progress will js die if i start over. anyway lemme screenshot my valks rq

[crude cloak]

You'll probably manage to save up like 1.5-2 times the amount (including built pity) that you have rn on a new acc by the time 8.5 drops
Depends on what you meant by "progress" ofc, cuz a new acc does mean that you'll have to sit through the story again

[wild wolf]

i legit dont want to sit thru allat tutorial stuff again cuz this is alrd my 3rd account 😭

[crude cloak]

If you're prone to quitting then yeah, no point in restarting

The acc is barren though xdd

Also, Scott is a DPS set, you can run Theresa: Gluttony T FHM MB and Roald Amundsen on your supports

[crude cloak]

8.5 will ofc improve the situation a lil bit, just make sure to get the weap too

[wild wolf]

dumb question but whats fhm and mb,,,

[crude cloak]

Fu Hua: Musician
Middle Bottom (stig positions)

!faq glossary

[night parcel]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[crude cloak]

You can refer to this in the future

[wild wolf]

oh thank god thank you 😭 the shortcuts in this game makes me dizzy as hell

[crude cloak]

Yeah, that's normal

[stone frigate]

There is not

For this event

[dark phoenix]

just change the move hotkey to something else from the combat setting

is that your prefer setting? can't imagine how you move with QZDS

[shell quail]

@simple fractal 8M coins from event
In case you gonna skip

[dark phoenix]

shit, thought the event grind almost end, guess not

[rigid cedar]

they know

[shell quail]

it's styxx, high chance to not do it even knowing

[rigid cedar]

nono, i meant hoyo knows that people want to reach the new coin limit

[shell quail]

what's the new coin limit

500M?

[rigid cedar]

we don't know

[shell quail]

it's probably 800M

[rigid cedar]

not even the biggest hoarders did it yet

like sheep

[shell quail]

I'm not even close, only 109M

I can consume 200M coins from my inv

but it'll still be far from the oldies who have 300M before part 2 dropped

[rigid cedar]

ah so you're one of them

are you just doing it for coins or also for something else

[edgy hamlet]

Im at 163 mil

[shell quail]

I'm doing the event just to clear the shop

and the emblem I guess

[rigid cedar]

i mean i like the event

[shell quail]

this is like the 8th time they did this event

so it's no longer fun for me

[rigid cedar]

the maps are just speedrun focused

[shell quail]

most of the maps are the same

[rigid cedar]

so i guess they are aware people are burnt out

[shell quail]

I don't mind if they allow us to choose 3 maps out of their pool

I would love to do the survival ones

[rigid cedar]

yea, make queues with chosen maps

i don't think people would divert too much that some maps become unplayable

[shell quail]

the map that we have to dodge obstacles

idk if there's any for this current one

[rigid cedar]

there's just races

[shell quail]

yea, which is sad for me because I just don't like any of the races one

I like the point collection one and the survival ones

[rigid cedar]

and two power ups, teleport and sprint

teleport is op as hell if youre queueing with someone else

because you can just tp to them when they're ahead

[shell quail]

I think most ppl don't really care too much :P

[rigid cedar]

yea of course not

[shell quail]

I didn't even use any of the skills because I'm watching YT just playing the game with side eyeing

[rigid cedar]

it's just that they added a completion time for each map and i guess there is a tournament someone made?

[shell quail]

completion time for each map

isn't new

they had it on the 1st rerun they did of this kind of event

this is like the 8th time it reran

each rerun is like 2-3 new maps with more Chibis added

that's all

[rigid cedar]

oh okay, i only saw it on the last rerun, before 8th anni

[shell quail]

but the older ones were more fun, like the survival one

[rigid cedar]

i don't think anni counts as a rerun

[shell quail]

survive 2 minutes or be the last one standing

[rigid cedar]

yea i saw this

they decided to make 1 map for each gamemode on 8th anni and drained all the fun out of it as a result

[shell quail]

[dusty dagger]

[thick aspen]

[half hatch]

[vernal terrace]

[shell quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1243451934896295937/1357681337321914438/aika.gif

[spiral raven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922040466009096202/1224586527770808371/D7E9UL41FEXNPG3K55IFQ.gif

[glacial rune]

I wonder why they got rid of it

[sleek imp]

this is so stupid wtf i love it

[dusky mantle]

So...

Ill use RS FWS + who? No ps. Maybe fdd/paws?

Hod minion ofc

[fierce crypt]

sq

[shell quail]

strinova

[mortal jetty]

Fdd

[small salmon]

Hello, fellow Stinova enjoyer

[shell quail]

[fierce crypt]

strinova mentioned in 2025

[lime grail]

whats sushang's best team atm

[full trench]

fdd fws for most things

[half hatch]

Fdd paws is also pretty good and BiS on some bosses

Paws stellar shift DMG is pretty good

[full trench]

mango can u fund me teri sss

now that ur a prof u should help people with nirv right

[lime grail]

ok thx

i dont have paws kek lol xd

[full trench]

imagine

skipping in the big 25

[lime grail]

[half hatch]

Not with funds for Nirv

[shell quail]

can't even fund himself

how to fund others

[half hatch]

This

[vagrant fractal]

Sell more mangoes

[foggy vapor]

Who should I put on each MA boss for best results this cycle? (I'd like to preface I'm not super knowledgeable on this game) I was thinking:
team 1 (Kevin): badum, FDD, and AE for filler buffs.
Team 2 (Sampo): PS, BM, and TA
Team 3 (HOMU emperor): HoHE, HB, and RC

I'm kinda taking hints from the leaderboards tbh

Seeing who seems to be used on each boss and supplementing with my limited options

[open bone]

Can that max out your bonuses from both SSS bosses if you try on trial mode? If not I would put HoHE on whichever team doesn’t make it. If both of your main teams make it I might your basic strategy putting HoHe with SS and JK (assuming you have SS rank SS)

If you don’t have SS ranked SS RC is better

[foggy vapor]

Who is SS?

[elfin parrot]

i assume Kira

for sugary starburst but this does overlap with snowy sniper, ss rank, screenshot, etc. Typing kira is short and is the only battlesuit of her character.

[lime grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shigure-kira-shigure-kira-hi3-hi3-honkai-impact-3rd-vrchat-gif-12731215451276271502

[shell quail]

who made this

[lime grail]

Idk

[shell quail]

stolen from Sols again?

[lime grail]

No just searched "honkai impact kira"

[dull fulcrum]

Chat should i save for ||ely|| or go for PAWS rerun?

[crude cloak]

1. Please spoiler tag the ||Ely|| part
2. Backpulling is not recommended, go for 8.5 (assuming you can actually afford it)

[dull fulcrum]

OH SORRY

[crude cloak]

!faq backpull

[night parcel]

What is 'Backpulling'?

Captain! Ai-chan can help!

'Backpulling' refers to pulling a Valkyrie or her equipment (or both!) on a rerun instead of on her release.

For more information on why this is considered damaging to an account for Captains who want to pursue meta in the game, click [here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[crude cloak]

How many crystals do you have rn?

[open bone]

Hmm tough. I’m inclined to say ||HLE|| but it’s rough either way. AFAIK ||HLE|| is slightly less reliant on having 2 symbiosis teammates thanks to ||SP Debt|| which is something

Paws + Symbiosis + ROO cope was so painful last patch

[crude cloak]

I mean, it's not like it's a good idea to skip both

[dull fulcrum]

20k

[crude cloak]

Do you have ||HoRb|| btw? I assume not

[dull fulcrum]

Nopers

I started fairly recently

[crude cloak]

Then just get the 8.5 valk + weap

[dull fulcrum]

Just a bit into the PAWS banner

[crude cloak]

Just made sure you weren't too broke

[dull fulcrum]

Awesome

Thank you guys!

[shrewd python]

Is it possible to clear inferno+ with these valks if I don’t have them geared?

[modern yew]

Idk about spina but the rest u can

[half hatch]

would've been easier last patch but even this patch you could theoretically just spam kevin signets and let him clear the waves, but even without that should be possible

[shrewd python]

is there a guide anywhere perhaps?

[half hatch]

!faq signet

[night parcel]

Elysian Realm

I'm here to help, Captain!

Click here for signet guides!
-# Also see Shallow Sequence Tutorials here.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[open bone]

There’s a general signets guide in the pins and I’ve found that perfectly fine for clearing with cope gear

For everyone there

[shrewd python]

Ohh okok as long as the guides don’t changed based on gear

[open bone]

Some of them do? Like obv waxing less hofi and waxing hofi are totally different. But most of them it’s solvable with the right kit

Usually the thing to look out for is if the guide reccomends VillV signets

Because picking the wrong cope weapon can sometimes make those builds not work

[shrewd python]

im gonna try w hoT, should i switch around the stigs or nah

[open bone]

Note also that you also don’t need to do them all at once, like right now you don’t even have enough mats to get all the HoS stamps, so you can do whoever you have the best cope for first

[open bone]

That seems like perfectly fine cope for her in low difficulty ER

[oak barn]

Can't beat these four Sidekicks 😢

[open bone]

are you using items

[oak barn]

No

[dark phoenix]

why not

[modern yew]

I used kevin for blue pig, ely for yellow pig, and iirc ely for the last one too, i only used heals for items, so can try that

[open bone]

Try using them then

[oak barn]

It worked, now I only need to obtain this chest

[spiral raven]

any thoughts on what to do instead
https://streamable.com/bnw8wn

[crude cloak]

If you hit the mf too early in P2 you don't deal damage to the core

And you did hit it too early

[spiral raven]

u right, but i think im gated by ult cd with this rot

[crude cloak]

True

[fierce crypt]

tf the bgm

[spiral raven]

is my metnal state

10 hr ver

[fierce crypt]

[crude cloak]

I assume P1 is pretty tight damage-wise?

[spiral raven]

if u mean the mobs yea

[crude cloak]

Meant the boss

Cuz if it isn't you could go for a mob sequence that includes Badum's Heavenly Link

To SO before the boss spawns and save some time that way

[fair oyster]

[crude cloak]

Maybe even whiff the first 1-2 hits of the Stellar Shift depending on your damage

[spiral raven]

i could but the mob sequences that let me get SO without losing too much time i tried so far didnt have enough to get pass the mobs

nvm p1 is tight af

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1344295703064612936/1139561526898991194.gif

[crude cloak]

No PS I assume?

[spiral raven]

i mean yea, if i had ps i wont be struggling
ps gets 810 easily

if fish skip was still here...

[crude cloak]

I should actually try her out I think

[dark phoenix]

what is vita team now? vita fdd hofi?

[cunning gull]

that or vita fdd vbm according to last chicken boss

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/wnBQnZMtq9E this is a rough run of copying https://youtu.be/kxgasuuuPy0?si=RDPUtWCZYfFkA948 but I have to go sleep soon so this is the best I can manage atm. What should I do to adjust this run?
I have every part 2 except lantern and Sparkle - and Helia is S2, should I use someone else instead?

[eager smelt]

badum mob link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbi74VaNJJk
give this run a try

[pale musk]

How can I tell all the mobs are linked? They all looked linked cause they all had the snek symbol

[eager smelt]

u wont mob link if u dont press wa

the wa doesnt have to hit
and hieu le doesnt do it because whel sync 3 needed to cut dmg

if ur stats suck just use this person as ur ref
they work for low stats and they play good

[pale musk]

K, ty

[hearty yacht]

any advice what teams to use in ma for the sss bosses (also have p1 valks if needed)

[spiral raven]

sampo is like helia only
kebin is like dudu only

so, ur kinda cooked but u can try ps sonk badum on sampo
and then run hoo hofi + eden for kebin
and then homu is just w/e, a lot of p1 options can kill him
u can also use ely thel for homu

[hearty yacht]

hmmm ty

[small salmon]

same question for me with the loa supports

probably, dudu, jds, kiana for kevin and helia, fdd, ps for sampo,right?

[hearty yacht]

top scores use hohe over ps for sampo

but should be fine regardless, can always test with training mode to check the score diff

[rigid cedar]

most of these seem fine, except for sampo because he has a lightning shield

you will bite your nails out without any lightning valk

how does your vbs gear look like?

[spiral raven]

ig i havent saw a helia lead with something else other than hohe/cora
but if you do ps lead you can do helia/cora or helia/badum
these 3 team score the same

[rigid cedar]

Your thought of putting PS and TA there was good though. It's just gonna be one hell of a slog

[small salmon]

how am i supposed to rotate in sss kevin's 2nd phase with RS, FWS, JDS? i don't have teri aop and sparkle, so i cant just SO and kill it.

[spiral raven]

idk how u did p1, but transition is a ton of evades basically, and then end of transition u want to be sitting on 162 ish ari
its quite easy to do so if u ende with around 150 ish ari
then dudu trigger kiana qte, suppose u have weap just weap, or you can do a ca, kiana wa and u get so

ig u could swap to sonk instead here but i havent bothered

[small salmon]

What do you guys think? Any big issues?
https://youtu.be/tdn4udx5AUM

[weak drum]

can i just ignore that with teri

[small salmon]

oh wow, just after i uploaded it, i managed a 47824 run on my next attempt.

[spiral raven]

pretty sure u need ss, but i forgot

[weak drum]

shi

[spiral raven]

because at the start u used kiana's wa, when u in transition and use kiana wa again, ur not gonna get the ari back, instead if u swapped to sonk u would get ari, so u didnt get to insta SO, and then perhaps you change the end bit, dont do all of dudu's charged atks and use more qte, but otherwise ig not much to say

ik cap is around 856

[glacial rune]

Sampo being helia only is so real

I tried hoo vita and Lv

It’s cooked

[spiral raven]

its u have the char or u die

[glacial rune]

I’ll just settle with my 50s kill

[spiral raven]

[open bone]

It’s okay you don’t have to use Paws DPS on sampo, you can use PS dps with paws support 👼

[spiral raven]

same for when lantern is in ma, only sushang can kill her

[glacial rune]

Instead of needing 1 character, you can make it two

[glacial rune]

Well I’m cooked ||till the next patch ||

After that it will be 35 lvl stigs gaming for a while

[round arch]

Helia or sushang

But yeah u need helia in team xD

[open bone]

||You can have 1 level 50 Stig!||

[glacial rune]

we both know where this lvl 50 is going

[open bone]

M slot obv

[small salmon]

i'm quite happy with my 824 and out of attempts anyway. I'll maybe try another day but this is more than fine for me

thanks for the advice. I'll implement it when i try the boss again

[glacial rune]

Yeah, can pull two chars instead of needing one, amazing deal

[dusky mantle]

Greetings

[full trench]

can u get 0s homu with vita hofi vbm

[dusky mantle]

Bald more or slacc?

[full trench]

score seems very not good but its rl so

[full trench]

@spiral raven do u know

[dusky mantle]

Im still on work trip in china so not many opportunities haha

Ill pribably slacc

[full trench]

if ur busy abyss isnt that important

[dark phoenix]

isn't that too low? guess the different between RS ans FDD is that big

[dusky mantle]

Idk.

Just one run

[glacial rune]

it is low

[dusky mantle]

Nah i think i can do some runs before abyss closes. Just needed to know how big so i can decide whether to super bald. Or regular bald

[full trench]

my vibes guess is 860 or so cap

[glacial rune]

yeah my sparkle fdd run is 871 (tho lower D)

with badum should be higher

[spiral raven]

maybe if u s2 vita, but hohe thel should be free no

[full trench]

yeah it is but helia wants hohe more than fws/ps apparently

[spiral raven]

hofs rc thel works too
but if you ps lead, helia/cora or helia/badum works just as well tho

anywyas other than s2 vita u can try hofs + pardo + thel

[full trench]

no gear so no dmg

[spiral raven]

no jst and no turg?

and u no p1 phys options?

[full trench]

i have jst but no turg and no p1 phys

well i have horb and i could buy sswords but idk if that would do it

also seems like kind of a waste

[spiral raven]

well i dont recall homu being tanky, jst might be enough + w/e other gear u can find

[full trench]

yeah has like 2 and 2/3s healthbars left, not close

[rigid cedar]

needs s2 vita

i assume you want to finish with the first SO punch?