💁gameplay-help

[dense parcel]

and astral ring are basically like elfs? something i should worry about last

[crude cloak]

AstralOps you mean? Pretty much

[dense parcel]

yea sorry!

ok tysm!!

[crude cloak]

||8.4 won't be an upgrade in this case btw||

[dense parcel]

wdym?

[crude cloak]

||8.4 is better than Coralie for HoHE, but she won't be better than Sena or Vita||

[dense parcel]

aghh i see i think for now i dont want to stick to general beta but more whats best for hohe! thank u a lot regardless

[crude cloak]

I was talking purely in regards to supports for HoHE

[dense parcel]

oh

wait really???

ugh i think i will try to farm until vita and then i will see what i do

[digital sky]

How good is teri for sena dps

[half hatch]

the AOP ? dogshit

[digital sky]

Simp/Sci

Sorry

[half hatch]

np i just have no idea about the valk

[digital sky]

Huh

[half hatch]

came back in 7.8 and never cared enough about her to catch up on her

[digital sky]

I wish sci had hs

[crude cloak]

Well, in 7.7 the BiS lineup for Sena DPS was still Sena Helia Thele afaik

So probs worse than them

[digital sky]

:(

Well im uh thelemaless so like :^)

[crude cloak]

HoFi? Badum? Vita?

Surely you have those

[digital sky]

No. Yes. Yes.

[crude cloak]

Badum Vita it is

Actually BiS for the next cycle

[digital sky]

Sorry definitely a misstype
No. No. No.

[digital sky]

Ty

[crude cloak]

[digital sky]

Im sad teri is underwhelming

[lime grail]

finally a sena weather

[lapis raven]

who?

[lime grail]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/Gt6csvpWUAEWXU8.gif

[elfin creek]

can someone help me with this fight I can't do any damage to end this

[cunning gull]

is this story? did you look up a walkthrough on YouTube?

[olive flicker]

Btw rn the version is 8.3 right
Is there any new mega boss (like the bosses in MA with SSS fight)

cuz the newest one I know is already sampo from the sparkle debut

[cunning gull]

yeah this is 8.3
also i think sampo is the only new boss

[delicate tundra]

For Magrave set on AE, how do I activate Fyreheart?

Currently looking through her skills to find if it’s there

[delicate tundra]

Oh it’s in the set itself, ty
So it’s triggered when a skill or ult is used that costs =<25 SP. AE’s skill/ult should trigger it then right?

[neon narwhal]

Depends on the gloves used. Nebs and AE's ult both trigger it

sp spent >= 25

[delicate tundra]

Gotcha thank you so much
Finally beat HoT challenge 7 🙏
I understand now why Magrave is pt 1 OP

[reef tide]

Should i pull for shusang or pull enough times for Special outfit coupon from skin gacha?

[open bone]

Is there a reccomended cope comp for heimdall? I want to send shushang against SSS lantern but I’m not sure how I’d beat heimdall without her

I don’t have a ton of bleed and ignite valks, but maybe SI and CE can do it or something

[crude cloak]

Well, you don't necessarily have to use a Bleed/Ignite valk

Just use another P2 comp (RS was relatively decent for me)

[open bone]

My part 2 valks list is VBM PS VBS PAWS but fair

[crude cloak]

Okay, what P1 valks do you have then?

Or are you lacking in that department as well

[open bone]

Almost all the free ones plus JK, HoHE, DP, PE, HoR, FR, MC, HOV, BN

Most of them don’t have sig gear though

[crude cloak]

Yeah, nothing of note then

Well, use PAWS on Heim if you haven't alr used her on Lantern then, you don't have much of a choice

[open bone]

I haven’t locked in anyone yet, been doing lite

[crude cloak]

Or maybe even use PS on Heim (cuz Bleed) and PAWS on Lantern

I'd try out both

[crude cloak]

Yeah, that sounds better tbh

[open bone]

Yeah worth a shot. I’m probably going to have to buff mode whichever one doesn’t have PS but maybe

[crude cloak]

No HoHE dkey I assume?

[open bone]

Maybe I can slot in a cope bleed support for slot three on lantern with paws

[open bone]

Unfortunately not yeah

[crude cloak]

I mean, you don't need Bleed there

[open bone]

Doesn’t it give the damage buff when she’s bleeding?

[crude cloak]

Could've missed that tbh, I just always used PS
But ye, in that case it's a good idea

[open bone]

after testing it seems like paws is better off on aesir heimdall, I think she + coralie + vbs can clear without super mode if I unscuff the run and it'd be a good clear with super mode but she was coming up depressingly short on lantern

still significantly worse than PS solo at the job but at least they can do it

[dusky mantle]

Errr

Is this the real cayfufu in my bracket

[red plank]

oh yeah thats him

can anyone tell me a rot for this?

I never played this boss properly since I was in A3 when I had to play this one

but RL cant brute force

[strange raft]

Helia takes the bottom two buffs right?

[red plank]

@half hatch ?

[lapis raven]

dont u hv sena

[red plank]

weapon less

was broke ok

um so can anyone make up a rot so I can retain?

[half hatch]

Can do smth like -> swap to PS and time second WA so that it hits gaymax as soon as he spawns can also ult -> qte to paws and ult -> FWS qte and combo and ult -> qte to paws ult or qte to PS and WA idk what's shorter and then qte to the other support and back to badum

Cant record cuz not home lol

[red plank]

ok thanks

[red plank]

can you send me a ref for this boss?

I just need to see a playthrough

to mald more

[half hatch]

No one is using FWS/ps/paws

[red plank]

not for this team

just a playthrough

[half hatch]

https://youtu.be/pf4ZX3Gp6Ps?si=huQmQxXvdVAx-vfl

[red plank]

thanks lol

[lyric blaze]

what’re some good teams for lobster if i don’t have sena wep and don’t own sleepy teri

[crude cloak]

Badum Vita Songque should be best

Maybe Sparkle instead of Songque to benefit from the weather more, hard to tell without trying

[strange raft]

Anyone ?

[neon narwhal]

Depends on build but ye

[half hatch]

Tbh songques biggest selling point is kinda useless here so id imagine sparkle being better cuz of higher DPS + more buff from the weather, though to be fair Im not really aware of how much DMG songques actually deals as a LoA support

Wait nvm critical value is not as early as I remembered

Still pretty far into the hp bar in p2

[fierce crypt]

tf useless

[half hatch]

As said I thought critical value was moved a bit more to the beginning of the hp bar

But now I know it isn't

[fierce crypt]

ppl actually use her

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1aNMuzJEHT

[vague flame]

what team do I run for dps hoo

i dont have hotr

does eden with hofin work? and if i use hofin do I use her dkey version or norma

[drowsy sandal]

I stopped playing 2-3 years ago and have just recently come back, should i pull for paws, vita or the next new valk? i cant keep up with anything like memorial arena or abyss with my older valks

[crude cloak]

Your options are GD, SImp and LV

Use the dkey

[crude cloak]

It's best if you show your current acc (valks + weaps + stigs), it might be better to make a new one

[vague flame]

why do i gotta remember every abbrevation of every valkyrie ever just to get an answer 😭

[half hatch]

there is a glossary in the pins

[vague flame]

im aware theres a glossary

[half hatch]

where you can seach the abbrv

[vague flame]

i just think u can say "eden" instead of writing GD, its not like she has another battlesuit

[quasi pier]

the other 2 do

[vague flame]

okay i just feel like its kinda unnecessary thats all, plus I dont want to go to another channel just to find the glossary of terms and then go search for it

[drowsy sandal]

sry for all the pics but i have occaisionally logged on and got some stuff

[crude cloak]

How many crystals do you have rn?

[vague flame]

so u have sparkle from p2 only?

[drowsy sandal]

6739 i havent done any story rlly tho so i can get more

[crude cloak]

Well, you don't have anything that is relevant nowadays (except Sparkle, but I doubt you'll be able to properly use her in the future), but I assume your Dorm is maxed

In your case either restarting or keeping the acc would be fine

If you are to keep the acc you should probs skip PAWS

[drowsy sandal]

yea my dorm is max, do u think i should pull vita or just save for something else?

[crude cloak]

Save until the next patch at least (ask again when it drops)

[crude cloak]

Assuming you stay on the acc that is

[drowsy sandal]

yea okay tysm !

[crude cloak]

On a new acc you can afford multiple patches in a row though

Including this one

[pale palm]

Vita,Starkle and Sena

I can probably score higher

[mortal jetty]

If RL yes... you can definitely 800+

[fair dock]

I just got sushang. What's her affixes? All atk?

[neon narwhal]

yep

[fair dock]

I have 23k crystals left. Should i pull badum or just save it for next patch? I'm slowly improving my part 2 valkyries since i'm way behind

[neon narwhal]

save

it's backpulling vs getting a new valk in shill period || who also has a universal support ring type plus supports the new ult ring like Badum. 8.4 valk also provides breach||

[fair dock]

Okay. Just contemplating if i pull since it's still early in this patch and i might be able to save another 30k from now haha. Thank you

[dusty dagger]

You say that as if we're ever going to refer to something like flame sakimata it's not even a matter of memorising tbh just playing the game would get someone accustomed to battlesuit names > their initials > abbreviations

[neon narwhal]

Considering || there's a mini spending event next patch and anni after, even if you could I'd lean towards saving for anni instead of backpulling badum ||

[dusty dagger]

Wow star prof moment

[fair dock]

Oh. I didnt know next patch would be a spending event.

[neon narwhal]

I thought I was about to get demoted again when I saw you typing

[dusty dagger]

Yes there is one

[neon narwhal]

[dusty dagger]

I can't even demot you

[lapis raven]

demoted to ago2

[vague flame]

no im sorry I dont care enough abt the battlesuit names

[dusty dagger]

Also I don't think we've ever had a prof so bad that they actually got demoted

[lapis raven]

lyo

[dusty dagger]

Lyo hasn't been demoted tf

[lapis raven]

demoted to mod

[dusty dagger]

True the green looks awful

But she gets sticker perms

And we don't smh

Not that I have nitro

[vague flame]

like if ur a meta player and care a lot about what battlesuits to pull yes youd memorize it i just dont care enough obviously if im asking who to pair up with hoo 😭

[dusty dagger]

You say that as if it takes any brainpower lol

[lapis raven]

u know the abb for hoo but dont care bout the rest 😭

[dusty dagger]

It's not as if the battlesuit names are like

Mf biological scientific names

[lapis raven]

im bouta give u the full chinese name

[dusty dagger]

Idk I don't take bio I chose physics chem

[dusty dagger]

Damn

[lapis raven]

dont damn me im opening fandom and copy pasting it

[dusty dagger]

Wow ok nvm

[lapis raven]

i got e8 for chinese dawg

why are ur expectations so high

check my status @dusty dagger

[dusty dagger]

Anyway it's not as if we're expecting players to go read the hi3 equivalent of a phonebook and memorise literally every fucking thing in there

No one's expecting you to internalise every single possible abbreviation that could ever potentially come out of someone's mouth

[lapis raven]

icl ts pmo sybau princess

[dusty dagger]

And it's really easy to just understand which abbrev is referring to what in any given context

[dusty dagger]

[lapis raven]

sybau? syblue?

[dusty dagger]

Bro you're actually delusional or something

[lapis raven]

took u long enough to find out

[dusty dagger]

Ok

[formal wigeon]

I think your water got to your keyboard

[dusty dagger]

Honestly it's so amusing every time I see someone crash out over abbreviations of all things

[lapis raven]

words fail

[dusty dagger]

There are so many other things to get angry over and you choose this

[lapis raven]

aha haha aha haha

[dusty dagger]

You're a riot

Also what about your status

Isn't it the same

[lapis raven]

it was only us jn lmfao

[lapis raven]

activity status dumbass

anyw dont u hv an essay to write shoo

[dusty dagger]

I'm in bed I'm continuing tmr

[lapis raven]

smh

[mortal jetty]

Can a prof demote if he don't do his job properly?

[dusty dagger]

Idk the only involuntary demotion I've seen was memes and that was trial mod

[crude cloak]

Why did you have to remind me of him

[crude cloak]

I mean, look at Ken

Still Prof

And ofc there are deadge Profs in general, like Imy

[mortal jetty]

What did he do in the past?

[mortal jetty]

Some of them don't play the game anymore i think

[crude cloak]

Just doesn't really play the game for a long while (and doesn't appear often here either), I wouldn't say that qualifies as a Prof

[crude cloak]

Ye

[mortal jetty]

FR and DE server don't even have a prof

[crude cloak]

RU as well

[mortal jetty]

[thick aspen]

if you want to be good at video games you need to learn english

[crude cloak]

Trueing

[thick aspen]

cause thats the language all the resources are in

[lapis raven]

why all the eu kids out rn

[crude cloak]

Kith as well

[thick aspen]

cause its 9pm

[crude cloak]

Perfect time to wake up

[thick aspen]

also this is the EU discord

[mortal jetty]

FR and DE don't really need Englisch tho since a lot of players there are playing in french or in german ig..

[thick aspen]

NA and SEA are in their armada discords

[crude cloak]

Paul meant that there naturally will be more resources in English cuz it's the international language
Unless there's a massive population difference, like with CN

[thick aspen]

but EU dont have armadas

[mortal jetty]

[thick aspen]

yea if someone is writing a guide or making a video or smth for a game its 99% gonna be in english

[mortal jetty]

Hmm

[crude cloak]

Netherworld was a dream all along, huh 🗿

[thick aspen]

so if you as a player want to learn, all those guides and resources are in english

[mortal jetty]

I know what you mean.. but keep in mind that there are a lot of FR players who don't even know to make a sentence in englisch...

[thick aspen]

yeah and their skill suffers for this

[mortal jetty]

Not really

From my experience

[crude cloak]

Yes, and now compare the French-speaking population that doesn't know English to the English-speaking population

[mortal jetty]

A lot of FR peeps already asked me why i didn't do some.guide in french for them in the past

[crude cloak]

If you wanna be actually good at HI3 you need to know Chinese

[lapis raven]

i know chinese!

[mortal jetty]

Okay..this means that we are really bad

No chinese= too bad

[crude cloak]

Yes, and it's a lot comfier to find refs for you

[thick aspen]

idk man we had to even teach them how to fish

[crude cloak]

Well, I didn't say that Chinese is the only requirement

English + Chinese is probs the best combo

[thick aspen]

just know all languages

[crude cloak]

Real

[mortal jetty]

Real

Its already hard to speak 4 language from my experience

[crude cloak]

It's more about when you learn them afaik

[mortal jetty]

French + german nerfed my englisch a lot

[thick aspen]

yea the older you get the harder it is to learn new

[crude cloak]

Ye, I can defo tell by the "englisch"

[half hatch]

i don't even know how i learned my 2. language and i suc at the third language i tried to learn

[thick aspen]

i learned english by playing runescape

[mortal jetty]

This my keyboard...the trash is always switching from English to German

[thick aspen]

sch sch

[sacred cape]

Any no sena ref?

[obsidian thistle]

Question, if i dont have any part 2 phys valks, should i pull on the new sushang over PAWS?

Im always struggling whenever any phys or bleed weather comes in the abyss

[mortal jetty]

https://b23.tv/sVZrpZf

This is the ref cope sent last time

[half hatch]

not really we generally do not recommend back pulling due to multiple, PAWS will also be shilled in this and the upcoming patches while sushangs shill will slowly fade out now. It also depends on your current crystals count if you can even afford PS or PAWS

[obsidian thistle]

Im close to pity on character banner but no xtals for weap for now

[half hatch]

yeah then skip

do NOT get a valk without their weapon

[obsidian thistle]

Awe rip, phys is the pain point in my account so i was wondering

[quasi pier]

better off waiting for the next phys valk

[obsidian thistle]

Might as well

I have all elements covered except phys and ice 🙃

Anyways thanks for the help, time to save

[proud shuttle]

was fishskip always this hard

[elfin parrot]

the jump version is now patched

but you can do it with regular evade

[proud shuttle]

oh

that makes sooo much sense

[round arch]

its actually a bit easier now

[proud shuttle]

are the inputs the same but with dodge now?

[lapis raven]

just rebind jump and eva

[elfin parrot]

that sounds like a joke comment i actually would want to try out lol

[lapis raven]

nah it works

i did that cos i cldnt be arsed to get used to new muscle memory

[elfin parrot]

same tbh lol

[lapis raven]

timing isnt 100% the same but its 99% the same

i fail the fish skip more now as compared to jump

then again ive only used it once since patch

loa dead already 😱

[proud shuttle]

i started to get used to jump fish now this again

[lapis raven]

.

[proud shuttle]

ill try it

[lapis raven]

ur ult will get unbinded for some stupid reason so yea rebind that before doing ur run

and keep in mind that if u do need to eva in the run for boss mechanics, pressing k wont do anyt

[lapis raven]

vice versa for jump

[pale musk]

Is there a video guide for the new fish skip?

[eager smelt]

same as old one but u evade instead of jump

[pale musk]

Am I too early or later? Trying to do the one where she lands after qte since I heard it's easiest

[eager smelt]

too slow

[pale musk]

Is there a new indicator? It looks like I pressed 1 exactly when the top of the meter went down and that usually means the skip worked.

[pale musk]

What score would be safe for t3 in RL?

[full trench]

@young nebula is 855 reliant on s2 badum at all idk what it does

[half hatch]

other than some dmg increase due to upgraded multipliers and ofc some atk the only new thing is that CA, WA or basic SEQ 4 trigger evasion

idk the actual run but that's what s2 does

[young nebula]

What Mango said. Other than increased atk, I gain 1 more point from opening by skipping Kiana weapon from ult eva from s2

[steady osprey]

if u early u will qte vita in without doing CA

that's wat happen to me though

[digital root]

What's the best general team for every part2 dps? Like in most scenarios, not taking into account any other boss or stage gimmick like hitcount

I've been trying to search for this info but given how stuff changes every patch I can't find anything for the older characters like Senadina, so I'd really appreciate a simplified guide, like just writing the names of the characters per team

[eager smelt]

look at wyverein for highest raw dps

[whole sun]

i forget, whats the recommended amount of crystals to have before pulling for a character and their sig weapon?

[half hatch]

as awawa already said you can look at raw dmg calcs from creators like wyverein but is there any specific reason you want to know those team ? this game is extremely situational and even if a team has the highest dps on paper there may be other things to consider which would impact the general rotation/score, i'd rather recommend to get a rough idea about what a valk does and provide as a support and try to adjust the supports accordingly to the boss, this is also probably why you haven't found something similiar online

since you can only apply this to the game in some extend

[steady osprey]

hoyo made sure that u don't have "best general" team

[dusty dagger]

Why look for results in a vacuum if it can't be applied to the actual game in any realistic scenario

[half hatch]

~30k at the beginning of the patch is a pretty comfortable amount and about a 75% chance to get the valk + their weapon. Otherwise you can also keep 16.8k (60 pulls and weapon pity ) in the tank and spend excess pull on the battlesuit supply so if you get lucky you can guarantee the weapon right away. Though be aware that this is a bit less recommend since we encourage pulling a valk early on when the banner drops so you won't loose out on shill

[dusty dagger]

I hate averages 😔 they never happen to me

!faq rates

[night parcel]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[half hatch]

real

[digital root]

I was more so trying to get a base idea for the better supports of each, I do know that for example in SD bosses you'd run 2 SD characters for better overall dmg and stuff, but I was thinking of getting some sort of "base", though I understand that, especially on this game, such a simple answer is pretty hard to get

[dusty dagger]

Of each what, valk?

[digital root]

Well yeah, like for example Senadina, usually Vita is her support but I'm not sure if her second one has changed in recent times, like maybe it's SHelia or another valk, but again I do know that it depends

[half hatch]

S helia can't supports sena, maybe we start with the basics do you know how p2 team building works ?

[eager smelt]

u run 2 sd chars because they have different functions
sena fits the weather but is garbo at anything else for sd
badum has good shard gather and max hp reduction
songque isnt used with sena but she can force the sd form which was why badum dps was better on guaymas before the change

[elfin parrot]

a base is kind of a flawed outlook imo

hi3's late game is constantly skewed content (abyss cycles with different bosses and weathers)

the idea of a base can somewhat apply if you have a neutral matchup especially if you lack the best option but at that point i rather you try out multiple options. Context can still affect things too (overkilling, animation speeds, survivability, etc)

you'll start to get an idea of some sort of baseline or what valks might be better as you see them commonly used (or sometimes cc can put together beta testing data like wyv) but overall take these loosely

[digital root]

I get the AR synergy system but I was thinking because of the buffs their gear provides

[half hatch]

buffs from stigmatas/weapons don't really mean anything if they can't propperly support the astral ring type

[dusty dagger]

Buffs don't matter if they don't synergise

[elfin parrot]

also unless you're in nirvana

if the context doesn't greatly emphasize one valk over another

while some valks may have numerical advantages, these are often slight and you can get a competitive score with lesser support options

[digital root]

Welp what I've gathered is that Wyverein guides are what I should be looking more at instead

[elfin parrot]

i would mainly focus on picking up a particular new gacha valk for their dps niche and for any unique utility they may have that are of interest to you (and focus more on latest releases when you can afford them)

i wouldn't call wyverein's videos "guides" per say

but they're information and data

trying to follow them like a mantra would lead to mistakes down the lines. Use them for inspiration for trying out different ideas.

For actual things to follow imo the gold standard would be specific references for each cycle. For this purpose I usually recommend Hieu Le since they upload solid references for RL and Nirvana very regularly. But going off of only one person is never going to be complete.

You may opt to check pins here and also #video-creations for other references

Again HI3's late game expands to different scenarios and all of them have their own different kinds of "best fit" in terms of optimal damage and actions, teams, etc.

[digital root]

Damn I wanted to find an update to my teams and now I feel hella dumb

But thanks to y'all for actually taking the time to type how I'm basically wrong tho

[elfin parrot]

Try not to think of updating teams in a general or absolute fashion. It's overall going to be quite relative and specific case by case.

[half hatch]

this game can be a lot sometimes so take your time, though if you ever come across a situation where you are wondering what the best team you can come up with might be feel free to ask, it's easier to discuss teams for one specific valk + if we know which supports you have than giving a general answer to what the best team is

[elfin parrot]

As far as keeping up with content goes, just make sure to save crystals for the new release each patch and to only roll early in the patch when you can guarantee valk and weapon.

If you're f2p then it's normal to have a skip patch now and then. You'll naturally suffer from the niches of whoever you skip. Every valk is going to have some kind of niche.

But overall as long as you get enough, you'll have decent enough supports to use and enough dps coverage to perform well in enough abyss cycles to be as far as RL.

[steady osprey]

u can ask what is the best team for current abyss and if u dont have it then ask for coping idea

[digital root]

Well so far I have every p2 valk except Durandal and Theresa, not really a whale just buy the monthly card every now and then, also have gotten absurdly lucky sometimes

Though I do get the every character and what their usual supports are, it just really comes down to constantly switching due to circumstances, which again yeah is basically what the games about

But if I'm ever like particularly lost with absolutely no clue on something I'll try asking

[elfin parrot]

i would say you've skipped some of the least valued ones so you sound like you're doing fine so far

[digital root]

Yeah I haven't seen Theresa in showcases for a good hot minute, Durandal I see more and is obviously good for IMG but I'm just not a fan so

[half hatch]

Yeah both rs and schi are pretty niche with them only really being used in img/qua content or some P1 shill once in a while but especially the quantum shill is pretty doable with sparkle and with your roster should also be no problem to brute force RS weathers lol

[steady osprey]

guys what is extreme weather? melee dmg?

[half hatch]

GoI weather

[steady osprey]

oh ok. thats why it sounds strange to me hahaha

[elfin parrot]

we really don't need more new names for the same thing lol

[steady osprey]

parvati was fov boss though

[elfin parrot]

i was already annoyed with seeing flux (also partly because it overlaps with pgr)

it's not uncommon for newer valks to take existing scenarios away from older valks

or for a existing scenario to get reduxed slightly to suit a new valk (lol andrius)

[half hatch]

Yeah hoyo is just making things more complicated, they just should have done it like they did with RoO weather oblivion

At least resonance and shadow made sense but extreme ? Lol

[steady osprey]

hmm i guess its about cn translation

[dusky mantle]

Hardcore

[fierce crypt]

phys weather cn name is 畏血 = fear of blood

[half hatch]

[steady osprey]

What about bloodlust

[fierce crypt]

战意

[steady osprey]

fighting spirit

[elfin parrot]

[hoary pebble]

I know im doing something wrong but im not sure what exactly

Maybe im just too slow

[lapis raven]

ur fws wa doesnt even hit guaymas

[hoary pebble]

i see

im trying to follow hieu les rotation but im not coming even close to doing so

[boreal eagle]

u can also use cancels for badum resonance to be faster and hit more with sena in p2 during AO duration

[hoary pebble]

i dont really know how to use cancels tbh

[boreal eagle]

A-jump-A-jump-A

[hoary pebble]

thank you i will try the rot a few more times

[boreal eagle]

hit the first wa with badum is important

[hoary pebble]

10 point increase even when i kinda screwed up the rotation lol

[strange goblet]

If I don't have PS or PAWS, is it strictly better to go for one over the other?

[rare iris]

Newest valk will always be the way

Never backpull with limited xtals

[round arch]

theres so many issues with this run

[hoary pebble]

what are they if i may ask?

[round arch]

the badum weapon must hit at the start and after the resonance phase, theres badum resonance combo a jump aa jump aa and after sena SO just do one combo, dont do the evade and 2nd combo. Just switch to badum and do your reso, in part 2 you need to evade the laser and dodge its other attack to get the shield phase faster...

[hoary pebble]

i mean im mostly following hieu les rot but i guess im not really following it correctly

[round arch]

yeah and also ur a bit slow with the buttons I think

[buoyant condor]

Not like it matters in rl

[rare iris]

Not like I matter irl

[buoyant condor]

[round arch]

plebshiro the legend

[rare iris]

Wtf

[rigid cedar]

Is there any way to increase visual clarity between the qte icons when Stellar Shift is ready and when it isn't? Call me mad, but I've always been sort of guessing when they're ready and now it shows terribly and I cannot take it anymore.

i know, the extra lines between the rings, but with valks like JDS who constantly flash orange for technically always having enough SP for ult it's just hard to tell the difference at a glance

for reference, jds with shift ready

maybe any graphics settings that make the UI more flashier and therefore visually clearer?

i usually play on minimum settings on mobile, but i'd take the fps hit if I can rule out blind guessing

[torpid torrent]

#ButtonSmashingIn2025

[formal wigeon]

Tbh probably just remember

You get one per valk

[crude cloak]

The only thing I can think of is increasing the screen resolution, I don't think any in-game settings should affect that

[crude cloak]

And ofc this is not applicable to all phones

[edgy hamlet]

Does anyone know when CN did their abyss? Im trying to use filters on bilibili

[crude cloak]

Exactly 4 weeks ago

[rigid cedar]

okay, I will try mid and perhaps high res then

[crude cloak]

± 1 day cuz 3 days per cycle

[edgy hamlet]

maybe play around with this setting?

[edgy hamlet]

thank you

[rigid cedar]

oo I see

[crude cloak]

It'll make the background darker, which could work

[rigid cedar]

need to enable post processing only then, which shouldn't have too much of a performance impact

[lapis raven]

hi gurdil

bye guridl

[edgy hamlet]

I always found UI to be really blurry in this game even at 4k...

[formal wigeon]

Genuine question tho, why do you need to see that ?
If the valk used it they don't have it, if they didn't use it yet they have it, it shouldn't be a guessing game

[half hatch]

For gaymax JDS still pops the critical value even though he's already in the max hp state right

[crude cloak]

Cuz it's based on a CD

[half hatch]

If guessing he's talking about heavenly link

[crude cloak]

16 secs (excluding Badum's ult shenanigans)

[half hatch]

Just said stellar shift in the msg

[formal wigeon]

Oh

Then ye indeed

[crude cloak]

Ah, that's where the confusion was

[formal wigeon]

Cause stellar shifts are pretty straight forward

I didn't even know the other thing showed any difference on the qte effects

[lapis raven]

washed

[crude cloak]

Or was that fixed alr

[edgy hamlet]

Can I still follow a ref with these weapon syncs or do they not matter as much?

[crude cloak]

Yes

[crude cloak]

Well, what's their dist

[edgy hamlet]

548

[crude cloak]

And are you using 4* Kia as well

[edgy hamlet]

yes

[crude cloak]

And what's your dist

[edgy hamlet]

543

[crude cloak]

Tbf atp it can be a dkey diff too

Just try it out, it should be easy to compare the damage

[half hatch]

Rip JDS would be so useful here for me then

[edgy hamlet]

Im +134 now

[edgy hamlet]

ok will do. I just noticed their score seemed to be the highest Ive seen so far (820). Everyone else is in the 810s

[lapis raven]

u can get 807 with full s01

on na dist

[edgy hamlet]

ok good to know

[mortal jetty]

@round arch are u using vita qte on your run ?

[edgy hamlet]

Is there anything I can do to go through FWS's SO faster? I feel like Im missing something....

[mortal jetty]

A jump a jump a

[edgy hamlet]

that worked great ty

now Im stuck on something else
how do you cancel Sena's combo attack? I was spamming jump but it wasn't working. Should I add a delay maybe?

[boreal eagle]

i dun think is possible to cancel it u just need to be faster before that combo

[edgy hamlet]

ah gotcha!

[mortal jetty]

I have the same problem

Still don't know how to solve it

[edgy hamlet]

Yea the issue was definitely being too slow

Im getting it consistently now

[mortal jetty]

Hmm i am trying to be fast as i can but never got it

[boreal eagle]

sena has also a cancel for the evade atk btw if anyone dun knows

maybe can help u be faster

[edgy hamlet]

I just evade then press basic as fast as I can. Is that what you mean by cancel?

[boreal eagle]

nope

is evade atk jump atk mimi mitsu has an old video

[edgy hamlet]

ya I definitely didnt know about that. I may try it after I get 1 successful run...

[boreal eagle]

https://youtu.be/qa4yjy8rF_Qwatch this

[round arch]

No

[boreal eagle]

consider that vita tf on can slow down the boss in theory

[mortal jetty]

@boreal eagle @round arch

How fast should i be?

[boreal eagle]

faster

btw try to ult with vita before the evade

and maybe try to not use the wa just A and evade

it worked like that for me on mobile

[edgy hamlet]

idk how but I managed to be too fast every time now and finish her whole combo then get hit

[round arch]

you need to evade and then finish her yoyo swing

dont try to finish her combo before, youll always get hit

[mortal jetty]

I am missing damage without vita qte

[edgy hamlet]

I did evade before her combo. Do you mean let her evade a bit longer?

[round arch]

dont tap her skill, just leave it until u do the evade

[mortal jetty]

@round arch are you doing the dragon with badum in p2? After HC

[round arch]

p1 only

[mortal jetty]

Bruh i can not even reach the threshold in p2

[edgy hamlet]

hmm ok Ill try that

[round arch]

let me send u my run

[edgy hamlet]

I think you have way more damage than me

[mortal jetty]

Yeah probably but i am still missing dmg..or maybe i am doing something wrong?

[edgy hamlet]

Not sure if youre following a ref but what score are you aiming for?

[edgy hamlet]

I may be wrong but maybe you are missing stardust remnants somehow?

[mortal jetty]

825

[boreal eagle]

oh i can also use the wa seems this not a mobile problem

[mortal jetty]

Never said its a mobile problem lol...but thx

[boreal eagle]

only two options left hitlag or less dmg

my vita tf is off btw

[steady osprey]

tf?

[half hatch]

time fracture

[steady osprey]

s2 skill?

tf after wa

[edgy hamlet]

ok I sleep now

[boreal eagle]

yes u can turn that on/off

[spiral raven]

i can't cancel/interrupt sena's atk or something? does that just mean my rot is slow and its lined up or i just wait a bit or something

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1347797849307480095/723928477098573944.gif

like i alr stopped pressing weap and tried to spam jump after i see orange light

[mortal jetty]

You are slow i had same problem

[boreal eagle]

read messages above

[spiral raven]

aight

[boreal eagle]

remember to use badum cancels in the correct way

even if u dun have dmg for reaching treshold is the only consistent way

[steady osprey]

nvm

[spiral raven]

oh u guys have so much more dmg than me lel but i can try the vita ult earlier ig

[lapis raven]

s1 sena not fair

[edgy hamlet]

how did bro know

[lapis raven]

i play na

?

[boreal eagle]

in ur video i think u missed the evade btw thats less dmg

[edgy hamlet]

tbh even I forgot I had that. Screen always showed S

[edgy hamlet]

fair lol

[lapis raven]

whale

[spiral raven]

which evade, the vita one or the sena

i heard the sound effect of me dodging vita one

[edgy hamlet]

i needed paladin balls 😭

[lapis raven]

okidokes glhf

[edgy hamlet]

[lapis raven]

lmao im outscoring a full ss in my lobby

[edgy hamlet]

whats teh point of malding when a sonk op user will get way higher score than me anyways smh

[lapis raven]

u need sss sonk to outdmg anyw

kia4 beats ss sonk cos its one SO

and its not even really a mald

[edgy hamlet]

ok thats good to know

[lapis raven]

the rots pretty easy and not really subjective to rng imo

thats why im malding it

[edgy hamlet]

I always mess up the floor blast attack

[lapis raven]

im gonna rat my run tho so glgl

[edgy hamlet]

[lapis raven]

if u can get 808 or above then i'll consider recording my run

[edgy hamlet]

bet

[edgy hamlet]

done

[boreal eagle]

that one nvm i was mistaken then

[lapis raven]

fuck

[edgy hamlet]

Simply a S1 diff

(idek what it does)

[lapis raven]

more dmg i need to cleanup more

idt i can get an 808 recording tbh, was a pretty fortunate run i got

i can show u a general idea of what im doing tho

u shd lowk be able to hit 810 maybe

[edgy hamlet]

Nah it's fine you don't have to show. I just wanted to accept a fun challenge

[lapis raven]

want to try to beat me using s1 s2 s0?

[edgy hamlet]

Wdym?

[lapis raven]

s1 sena s2 vita s0 fws

[edgy hamlet]

Oh hell nah

whel account

[whole sun]

god its so confusing that the game will just let me play any part of the part 2 story at this point

like ive barely done any of it, yet it lets me just do the most recent addition

[torn magnet]

what's a cope memorial arena lantern (boss) team

[spiral raven]

man where dmg

[torn magnet]

speaking as an old player that cba to improve

[spiral raven]

do u have fws jds and horb?

can use that on lantern as cope

like 47640 something

[torn magnet]

nah by cope i mean COPE... like just barely 4:00 on the clock

: i cant :

[spiral raven]

well what u got? also maybe turning on buffed mode will help in the wrost case scenario

[torn magnet]

i got cope trio + vita + sena on me rn

vita sena helia okay cope?

[spiral raven]

u can give it a shot, i mean tbh the goal u have is quite low

[torn magnet]

type shit tyyy

[lime grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf4ZX3Gp6Ps how to do this wa skip hieu did at the end of ds run

with fws

[spiral raven]

go to skills theres an option that lets u turn off automatically using the special when ur meter is full ( u hold the weapon button instead if u do want to use it )

all he does is just he taps weap to gather poop and then ult

[lime grail]

o

to gather poop? ewww thats so gross of him

[spiral raven]

well its big dmg

[torn magnet]

oh wait thhe max reward is 3:00

we take these Ws

[crude cloak]

Go to Attack -> Start -> Story

That way you can pick the chapter group on the left

[crude cloak]

The Recommended tab always points to the latest chapter

[whole sun]

yeah, i have the returnee stuff and one of the recommended things was the latest story chapter and when i clicked go, i thought it would just put me back in the story where i last left off

since that would make sense

[jovial bison]

I tried doing the dodge and jump in between attacks like this hieu vid but the guaymas wasn't disabled, any tips?

[rigid cedar]

you need to get the final jump dodge done to trigger the hitcount (the one where he explodes) and you also need to hit guaymas right after. the timing is a bit tighter than his other moves

[steady osprey]

jump this and hit it right after that

[dusky mantle]

Is S0 sena brita badum capablr of 808? 4*kiaelf

[spiral raven]

if u got the dkeys

s0 bita just does too little dmg, so u rly need dkey to compensate if u want that score

[dusky mantle]

I got every key just no syncs

[spiral raven]

idk u can try

[dusky mantle]

So far 780 lel

[spiral raven]

u can 801+ at least lol

im missing dkeys

sena needs to do 2 combo atks at the end, hence 801

[eager smelt]

yeah

[steady osprey]

[vernal terrace]

Cay

[dusky mantle]

Yes

Cay in bracjey

Anyway im slaccing now

784 kekw

[spiral raven]

same

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1344295703064612936/1139561526898991194.gif

[vernal terrace]

-100 for me

[high herald]

does S1-S3 change anything in Sena's rotation for this boss.

[eager smelt]

no

[high herald]

I have s song, so I assume I use her here. I'm assuming Badum + Vita?

[eager smelt]

if u have 4* kiana u can use her instead

if u dont then just use songque

[high herald]

no kiana elf at all, so songque it is!

[edgy hamlet]

Lmfao I'm saving that

[lapis raven]

yes (on na)

[dark phoenix]

nobody does nir no ao ref

[craggy ivy]

There's 808 kia elf in my brac

S1 sena though

[lapis raven]

this is one so run tho

so all nirv refs are no ao

[dark phoenix]

they still get big dmg boost

[buoyant condor]

Then get one

[dark phoenix]

look at my 3* kiana and SS ds

[dusky mantle]

Makes sense i guess. I need to do two yoyo smash on phase 1. I guess i lack ranks/ weap syncs?

Lemme strim

[dusky mantle]

Still alive woohoo

[open bone]

gz, assuming nobody goes super saiyan in the last 2.5h

[spiral raven]

u can get past phase 1 at like 902 903 ish

like even if u do stuff slow

[lapis raven]

whale detected opinion rejected

[dusky mantle]

I do

[spiral raven]

so its ur p2 slow

[dusky mantle]

It is

[spiral raven]

wat time do u get the hitcount/threshold

[dusky mantle]

Idk 50 seconds? Its right after the 1st horizontal slash

[spiral raven]

ya as in like its 848 or something for me

but u can just show ur p2 then, or show the whole thing better ig

[craggy ivy]

My brack slacc

[spiral raven]

that's a nice bracket

[dusky mantle]

Ok sure. I tested it out. If im recording i cannot counter the first horizontal slash fast enough so i have to wait awhile lol.

The vid is 784. Good enough. Without recording tho its 792

[craggy ivy]

800 shd be doable, I got pixel hp'd

Sena atk too low

[dusky mantle]

Its cayfufu bracket after all

[spiral raven]

i see, normally for me, sena wa finishes at 852 and thats when the orange light flashes and disappears so i just jump right after and then wa cuz i dont hit the threshold lel

[dusky mantle]

https://streamable.com/xu35uf

[spiral raven]

i see, u go in late, so u cant sena wa and have to wait

[dusky mantle]

Nonono. Its the frame loss. HAHA

I normally get it

[spiral raven]

o also ur p2 is diff from me

[craggy ivy]

skip vita refresh

[spiral raven]

yea

[craggy ivy]

you have more dmg than me you should get it

[dusky mantle]

But do i want too

Whats "extreme" weather again

All i see is piggy

[craggy ivy]

probably helia no?

[spiral raven]

also this might give u slighlty more points? idk, i see that u didnt immediately atk after evade, or does it still count or something

[craggy ivy]

Gonna get bullied out of helia weather because no ps

[spiral raven]

i weap and then wait slightly and then evade ult

[craggy ivy]

ult bugg burned out a bit faster that way

I prefer eva wa ult

[spiral raven]

that is true but i kill it b4 ult gets burned out

[craggy ivy]

too whale

[spiral raven]

nah bro, i do less dmg than actual s0 with their full dks

[dusky mantle]

I might have more damage. But you probably have more sanity and hair

[craggy ivy]

let me try vita qte off, but with that I lose dmg p1

[spiral raven]

oh u have it on

[craggy ivy]

I need it otherwise I need 1 sena ba p1

[dusky mantle]

I need brita qte for p1 sadly

[spiral raven]

do u dodge yellow atk in p1

u get quite a lot of free dmg from it

[craggy ivy]

no, like just straight up for superimposed threshold

[dusky mantle]

Yeh the 1st one right?

[craggy ivy]

yeah

[spiral raven]

oh i dont hit that one either

lol

i just move on and carry on

like here yea

[pale palm]

can you actually fail on this stage

[spiral raven]

u could try and not do anything but no idea, i assume most wont struggle to get the bonuses here

[half hatch]

If you die yes

[pale palm]

Aponia died in 7 seconds

[craggy ivy]

I just opened abyss last 3 hr before finalization

ok I heb issue, because dmg lacking vita breaks the consolidation threshold in p2 mid hitcount, losing me the stardust

[dusky mantle]

U see??? More sanity and hair

[dusky mantle]

What if u use sena ult?

[craggy ivy]

does it get eaten by hitcount?

wait shouldn't matter

ok somehow it does

I'm doing less dmg

[plucky gust]

anyone here has a link for this comp vs SSS heimdall? i can't find it. . .

[zealous minnow]

Looks like i have to lose another 100 trophy here

Mihoyo still love old team...

[pale palm]

huh,and here I though my score is was when I play the boss Friday

[dusky mantle]

No SD units?
Dont you have fws

[lapis raven]

has fws ps pa hes just bad

[zealous minnow]

Badum is bad

you need senadina here

21721 is my best score

badum-sushang-helia do not mutch

[plucky gust]

she's not really bad. bis, at least in my room, is sena, vita, badum

since badum also has domain resonance tag

[zealous minnow]

Yep but with sushang-helia not is enough

Maybe coralie...

[plucky gust]

wait. you do have sena, vita, badum, right? or you're missing one?

[zealous minnow]

i don't know actually, maybe change helia with coralie is better here

[zealous minnow]

no i have just 4 PS

Coralie-helia-new helia-sushang-badum

[plucky gust]

ooh. got it.

[mortal jetty]

https://youtu.be/5s4DvemNqig?si=6lyc5IvHgZK6sZbD

[dusky mantle]

Understandable

[half hatch]

Coralie is definitely worse than paws here

Also are you dodging his attack in p2 where he shots at the ground

If you dodge that and clear the HC with PS he'll go back into his normal state and take more DMG

[dusky mantle]

Are you jumping on the yellow attacks

[zealous minnow]

It is hard...because if i think when he do i stop hit

i prefer spam rotation untill astral ring skill

aniway i can't hit 21800 here

[dusky mantle]

You need 21800 for retain?

[zealous minnow]

21760

i mean i can still lose 100 trophy to stay, so...not a big deal

[half hatch]

You can probably hit that if you'd actually utilize the boss's mechanic

Sadly can't record a rot or anything cuz I'm in nirvana but try to dodge the attack where he shots at the ground

[upper wharf]

this ER cycle is wild lmao

[zealous minnow]

with new helia i shot everything on ER lol, final boss 13 sec

[dusky mantle]

Well

I survived lol

But why is moriso and bmo here now

[dusky mantle]

This u?

[craggy ivy]

Yes

[dusky mantle]

Gah

No ps

[craggy ivy]

I no heb ps

[dusky mantle]

Imma go sleep

[craggy ivy]

We slacc this tgt

Oh wtf bmo

[dusky mantle]

Ikr

[dusky mantle]

Kinda scared of the lineup

Well at least i didnt get matched with akalao

[cunning gull]

is it sena vita fws or sena vita hofi for this cycle? (rl)

[half hatch]

sena vita fws

[cunning gull]

oh btw does fws have any cancels in SO when supporting WS

[spiral raven]

atk jump atk jump atk

[rigid cedar]

yes attack + jump midair

[cunning gull]

[prisma olive]

How does Variable Arms work?

[whole sun]

is there currently any way to get senadina right now

[half hatch]

battlepass

[whole sun]

unfortunate

[cunning gull]

based on the different flamechaser signets that you pick it has extra effects that let it deal dmg alongside you. thats as far as i know and simplify (you can click on the blue text where you find it in er and it will tell you more)

[prisma olive]

Are all the variable arms equally good?

[steady osprey]

locked behind paid BP

[steady osprey]

some are not as good imo. for example kevin's icy hail only hit a 2-3meter aoe in front of ur valk facing direction

fuhua ball circle only hit when the balls touch the enemies

[arctic spoke]

Hello, can i here ask about MA?

[steady osprey]

sure

reinbex has a library of MA refs

[arctic spoke]

yes i know but, i have not much SSS and valk with Equip so for me its tough to use it

gues i cant ask there about a team?

[steady osprey]

well me too so i only look for 3s0 ref lol

u can ask here not there it's quite his "personal" server

[arctic spoke]

waht is 3s0?

[steady osprey]

3 valks all S0

S1 S2 S3 SS

are ranks

[arctic spoke]

oh thanks

I gues i found out what i can use but not sure

i better ask

[rigid cedar]

every one of the Variable Arms has a different effect

as you can see, there is an initial effect by obtaining 1 normal signet and an additional effect for obtaining a nexus signet

[arctic spoke]

Well, for Lantern i Guess I can build PS and PAWS , but not sure about who is 3rd supp. (mb Vita, but idk how good is she as supp in MA)
And I'm don't know what to better pick to Aesir Heimdall - i see there we "can" pick RS, but depend of buff, weather about Lightning, so its not good idea(?).

[steady osprey]

PS PAWS FWS is atp the top board in my server
heimdall is quite hard case he take half dmg and can hit back hard if u dont break bleed/ignite shield

he even can grab ur valk at phase2

[arctic spoke]

oh i forgot to drop my valks

[arctic spoke]

so it about

brutforce?

[rigid cedar]

it would be better to ask #📚honkai-lore about this, the help channels are meant to be kept spoiler-free

[steady osprey]

u can go with HOHE team for type advantage

[cyan maple]

Ahh sorry

[rigid cedar]

its alright

[arctic spoke]

oh, so it something like that?

[steady osprey]

well those are not good supps for hohe though

[arctic spoke]

[steady osprey]

dont sweat too much u still can get all score reward

[dusty dagger]

Everyone has nice names meanwhile su's is just fucking bodhi

[steady osprey]

but remember to use practice mode first. dont blindly lock ur valk

[digital sky]

Bodhi hits hard

[arctic spoke]

Yes i know, but m, idk, just like to do thing "right" , like betters way to do(?), but yes im not good player at all.
Lost my thought.
Anyway thanks

[arctic spoke]

I guess i cant do better team, only if i pick TRIO on Heimdall , but not sure how good it will be.
and if i can reach and stay about 17% its good for me ( if i can beat SS in 30 sec ofc). XD

i try trio and Ely team in training.

[steady osprey]

another idea of mine is use paws vita rs on lantern and fws ps hohe on heimdall

[arctic spoke]

hm

[steady osprey]

ps will take care of heimdal bleed shield

[arctic spoke]

Byt dont we have problem with Lantern?
dont properly remeber why we need bleed

[steady osprey]

well yes ur score will get reduced at lantern. it only worth if ur heimdall score is too low

when lantern bleeding she take more dmg

hoyo shill luna coz she 's in BP lol

[arctic spoke]

too low for reward or just (idk what word put)

XD

[steady osprey]

score reward. u want at least enough for 20xtal

wait u can use boost mode

[arctic spoke]

What is xtal?

[steady osprey]

crystal

[arctic spoke]

oh

[vernal terrace]

Technically you could do ignite

On Heim

[arctic spoke]

only with TRIO

but my bronya too bad

[steady osprey]

hofi ignite isnt enough

[arctic spoke]

i can ult 2 times, and then its about soak SP for next ult, what have much time

[steady osprey]

but i dont think hohe team score will be that low

lemme try it once

[arctic spoke]

I think I'm complicating things a bit.

oh so bad, i need stack up on Songue ,
But what i want know how to evade this attack?

[steady osprey]

the block will drop from left to right or right to left

[weak oracle]

wtf is this MA??? I have only one sushang!

[arctic spoke]

XD

[steady osprey]

u dont have to evade though it only matter if u want to break the charging phase with bleed dmg

[arctic spoke]

oh, so its just about dmg, not much matter

[steady osprey]

all i did was stand still until heimdal finish charging and then do the burst

[arctic spoke]

AO? or just roation?

[steady osprey]

PS for lantern and LV for heimdall

[arctic spoke]

guess i rly bad

[vernal terrace]

That's if they have Luna

[arctic spoke]

i dont remeber, have he or not

[steady osprey]

well they didnt show their rooster

[steady osprey]

38400 for all score reward

[arctic spoke]

what is rooster?

[steady osprey]

valk rooster

[vernal terrace]

Roster?

[weak oracle]

no gear

[steady osprey]

yeah my bad spelling

[arctic spoke]

Yes, but u do much more and less time

[vernal terrace]

Rooster is a male chicken

[arctic spoke]

XD oh that explain

[steady osprey]

[arctic spoke]

wellp thank again, gues i need a little try more for Ely, bc i play it 3-5 times(or even less) in "Abyss"

[steady osprey]

lv can go with CE/mobius/judah weap and zhenyi/zeno stig

or bruteforce with hohe like this guy above

[arctic spoke]

What u use to play ER? (guide with text and pic mb?)

[steady osprey]

i only play abstinence (x2.25)

[weak oracle]

I wrote TWO guides for paws in ER

[arctic spoke]

i see on rentry about 4, but idk why it like that

[vernal terrace]

2 are about the ER weather

[arctic spoke]

so if there no 15/15 buff its just for no weather build?

[vernal terrace]

Both 15 are for regular Non-SO and SO builds

[weak oracle]

this is afk strat

[vernal terrace]

Yeah, two versions though with PAWS

[arctic spoke]

Okay, I'm confused.
15/15 we can use for no weather?

[weak oracle]

just use my guide I gave you

it even has a video, though I did some missplays when I forgot to replace sigils

[vernal terrace]

The Afk build doesn't use both of em
Likely only the Weapon Breach buff I believe

[weak oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USCdNhxgLfE the video version. even with dreamseeker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WLyxD5q9W0 alternate for non-AR, but without relying on Variable Arms

[normal cloak]

Exalted MA Refs for 07/15/2025 - 07/20/2025 [Invite Link Here](#💁gameplay-help message)
Sa [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353588166677758053
Valrahal [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353588267252977768
Assaka: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353588723253645386

[arctic spoke]

it named AFK bc we dont use AO?

[steady osprey]

afk and let variable arm do their work

ig that's what u do when u use the +variable arm dmg buff, coz all ur other dmg is -95%
i may try it tmr lol

[arctic spoke]

But I felt like I was being so dumb, and I was asking the wrong question.

[vernal terrace]

^
Pretty much sit there

[finite barn]

I did not know there was a full afk strat lmao

That's really funny

[vernal terrace]

PAWS has 4 builds cause of it

[arctic spoke]

no im dumb sry guys,
guess i cant undestand that by meself/

[arctic spoke]

thnaks and sry again

[weak oracle]

well, ended up using sparkle (she can provide ignite)

is it possible to beat 764 without senadina dps?

the only world star dps I have is sparkle

ooof....

I saw 800 with badum, but there was SS teri

[steady osprey]

ss teri is not much different from s teri

teri vs DS can be different for badum though

[weak oracle]

I can't get enough score

[weak oracle]

I can tank it, but I don't want to

especially considering some awful bosses coming soon

[half hatch]

depends what do you have

badum/vita/songque can probably do it

[weak oracle]

have all of them, but managed only 753

[half hatch]

hm did you dodged the attack where he shoots at the ground in p2

after you dodged it a HC will appear and if you clear that he's back in his normal mode and takes more dmg

[weak oracle]

this is not "shoots the ground"...

also I can't even discern it in a middle of my rotation

[steady osprey]

u retry and expect it from last try's boss pattern

it usually repeat what it does

[half hatch]

maybe a video explains the move a bit better
look at 1:20
https://youtu.be/pf4ZX3Gp6Ps?si=Lm_mvWQjFRtw24wd

[steady osprey]

u can see in my screenshot it points the arm cannon at the ground and then it will do a ground explosion

[weak oracle]

BLOCKED IN MY COUNTRY... come on, even YT against me???

[steady osprey]

aka "shoot the ground"

[weak oracle]

apparently he doesn't do it.

[steady osprey]

it always does phase 2 with a howl/roar, a laser, a swipe then ground explosion

[graceful monolith]

any ways of getting a better score? Q___Q

[steady osprey]

that team should have better score in RL and below (i see -100)

[graceful monolith]

im in RL indeed

and i have a major skill issue LMFAOO i try my best tho

[steady osprey]

the jump move > hit count armor at phase 2 is a major difference

[vernal terrace]

No Songkek = -100
I have the same team as you but I have SS DS

[graceful monolith]

do u have a clip of it

[steady osprey]

mango already link hieu le's ref

he used sena though

[half hatch]

doesnt matter much it's just to show the move

sadly i dont know of any fws RL refs otherwise i'd link them lol

would have done one myself but not in RL this cycle

[steady osprey]

teri is better for badum team. x2 stellar shift

[graceful monolith]

idt i see the jump move hit count armor do u have a timestamp

[vernal terrace]

I don't have Teriop

[steady osprey]

u can see vita breaking hit count at 1:31

[vernal terrace]

||I have 37 pity on Astral Op supply but I'm saving the pity for 8.4||

[steady osprey]

yeah no point getting teri now

[half hatch]

if you wanna see the move clearly 1:20 is a good timestamp

[weak oracle]

pheeeeeew.... ended up refusing from keeping AR until 2nd phase

[vague flame]

Wait elemental DMG can't crit?

[vernal terrace]

Yee

[graceful monolith]

so like i need to hit it in a specific way?

[quasi pier]

only physical dmg can crit

[half hatch]

you need to dodge the attack where he shoots at the ground with his canon

[vague flame]

I feel like a newbie... Well I never cared about gameplay so it's my fault ig...

[steady osprey]

jump

[vernal terrace]

Certain Physical but yeah

[quasi pier]

bleed can't crit

[steady osprey]

heh waiting for hoyo to release an ele valk but can crit

[graceful monolith]

kk ty ill try it

[crystal karma]

so i knew hsr and gi had their playstore discounts removed but i was sure hi3 wouldn't remove them but i guess i was wrong? any idea when they axed it :/

[graceful monolith]

for some reason i struggle to gauge when the attack comes to i waste time anticipating the attack sadjfhnajsfd

[eager smelt]

u dont need to anticipate it
it comes at the same time

[unborn bison]

holy i gave back to the game and what is this new HoV type character

[onyx swallow]

does anyone have an elysian guide that will carry me

[eager smelt]

pins

[onyx swallow]

ty

did they make elysian realm easier???

[half hatch]

always was pretty easy when you had a geared valk and picked the right signets

but the recent patches had some dope weathers

[young nebula]

🕺

[vernal terrace]

Jovi

[young nebula]

Riley

[vernal terrace]

These last two bosses have been ass

[half hatch]

Time to cook 🐗 tmrw

[vernal terrace]

Demooting to A3 for pig

[young nebula]

the new helia team has been twisting my mind so hard

[vernal terrace]

I've gotten the hang of it
But PAWS, PS, and FWS get me so far.

[eager smelt]

the rot is easy but the bosses suck

sampo was so rng

[vernal terrace]

Clock rng too

[half hatch]

The DMG rng was so ass

[eager smelt]

clock was consistent besides the boss positioning if u had the rot down

and then the kill was the same because of waiting on ult cd

[vernal terrace]

I can't say much about clock since he was incredibly squishy in A2

[young nebula]

Hope I have fun experience with Helia team soon good boss please

[eager smelt]

wait for next patch

[young nebula]

no way

💀

[olive drift]

Just get helia 4/4 and pick non stellar outburst buffs, 1 sp 1 ult, 1 dominance 1/2 star and the rest u can just freestyle, u can easily finish it, I REPEAT DO NOT USE STELLAR OUTBURST.

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

i always use so

[vernal terrace]

Same ches
And should be the persons decision on what build they want to use

[olive drift]

if you're going stellar outburst run then pick the ones that say "DURING STELLAR OUTBURST" not "DURING STELLAR OUTBURST CHARGING"

[weak drum]

me when the joke flies over my head

[vernal terrace]

We can read

[olive drift]

oh, sorry i didnt know u were kidding twin 😔😔

[weak drum]

anyways who to use for er this week

im thinking horber because yes

actually havent used da in awhile

[vernal terrace]

Seele best girl
Use Horbius

[weak drum]

ok imma use helia

[vernal terrace]

[olive drift]

my goat, my gorgeous, my queen, my wife kiana hofi ✌️✌️

[weak drum]

too bad i dont have hofi

[olive drift]

helia is really easy to solo er finality

[vernal terrace]

PS and PAWS both

[olive drift]

dare i say, Skill issue.

[weak drum]

me when er is literally about soloing

[olive drift]

i meant like, if u don't wanna sweat ur balls fighting enemies 😭😭

STOP NITPICKING MY ENGLISH ITS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE

[weak drum]

i mean if your valk is geared then you wont be sweating that much

[olive drift]

helia SSS 🤤🤤

[weak drum]

nuh uh

[olive drift]

i actually got her on SS rn idk if i have enough sanity to acquire SSS

[weak drum]

3s hofi is better if we’re comparing the er clear time

[olive drift]

i only have hofi on S unfortunately 💔💔

vita rerun though!!

[weak drum]

smh poor