gd2-nullified

[whole kestrel]

basically it’s viewing yourself from another’s perspective, and when done once it’s a pretty cool thing to behold but making an entire game out of it wouldn’t go well unless perfectly executed

[shut jewel]

You just need to enumerate all, and then count. It's more deterministic.
You can also count while enumerating.
If the result set is too big to do, only then count average while doing randoms

[raven lichen]

i wrote it based on the code from the game, my initial attempt to recreate wasnt as accurate so i just adapted the C# to work elsewhere without any spawning or positioning related checks/steps

it generates the pool and iterates the weighted selections just the same, and then stores what it bought. I can run multiple stages that way and just return the total results and average info, so generating like 1,000,000 stages in a few seconds to get a pretty solid average of how many of x spawned

[whole kestrel]

math.

[raven lichen]

indeed haha

[misty flax]

gd2

[upper briar]

gd2

[quaint needle]

Здесь вообще русские есть?

[dull ingot]

нет, это английский сервер. (Гугл переводчик)

[cerulean rapids]

good image

[ashen flame]

so what is the chance of a radio scanner spawning?

[raven lichen]

what stage, player count, and artifacts?

[ashen flame]

1 player, artifact of sacrifice, stage 5

[raven lichen]

it is chugging along

im doing 1,000,000 stages to get that thicc average

Spawned Radio Scanner 54844 times, or 0.054844 per stage. 0.2% of all spawns. Seen at least 1 in 5.33% of stages.

Spawned Radio Scanner 70440 times, or 0.07044 per stage. 0.27% of all spawns. Seen at least 1 in 6.78% of stages.
is with sac+command

your best odds possible will be sac+command 4 player, which is
Spawned Radio Scanner 129881 times, or 0.129881 per stage. 0.22% of all spawns. Seen at least 1 in 12.15% of stages.

[ashen flame]

7%. thats pretty yikes.

[raven lichen]

per stage yea
so 7% isnt really that bad, but considering it can take a fair bit of time to get there, having to go >10 times really slows it down. doesnt help that this is just an average, its still only accounting for 0.2% of the stuff that gets generated, so low rolling for a while isnt unlikely.

i got 2 in just 50 stages sim'd

the first came ~20 stages, the second ~40, which kinda makes sense. but yea kinda do be rare

[onyx lava]

this is pretty cool, i know of someone else who did the same thing

programmers got too much free time these days smh my head

[shadow kettle]

i just got hardlight afterburner with huntress i am MOVING!!

[shadow kettle]

dam i got killed in one hit by an epic brass contraption

i had 5x crit goggles too

[high torrent]

huntress moment

[quiet swan]

ass contraption moment

[civic pivot]

I try not to get cocky with those fellers especially a tanky elite contraption

[amber pasture]

Fuck ass contraption all my homies hate ass contraption

[quiet swan]

overloading contraptions.....

overloading should be removed from the game

thoughts?

[amber pasture]

Agree

[cloud oar]

Nah

[zinc kernel]

overloading enemies Iiterally get 3x damage

[quiet swan]

at least they don't have the health or damage of tier 2 elites

[zinc kernel]

tier 2 gets 6x

imo the damage multipliers should be 1.5 for t1 and 4 for t2

[quiet swan]

their damage should scale with difficulty (drizzle, rainstorm, monsoon)

[merry karma]

would be kinda cool if damage and health multi scaled with stages somehow so the game isnt like autoplay past loop 2 a

[ember nebula]

We need bosses that only appear with massive damage reduction to make you actually do things. Also, they wouldn't be elites, as to keep us from insta killing with guillotines

[slim kraken]

maybe something like reactive dr? like the more dps you deal to them, the more armour they get

[rotund delta]

wait y'all get tier 2 elites smh game sucks uninstalling rn

[merry karma]

petra

@vernal cave @hollow dirge @zinc kernel

[mossy kite]

Oh it doesent
Never made it to that point and was hoping it did damn

uh tier two elites what
by that do you just mean malachite and celestine or..
If so is perfected in that same tier 🤔

[vernal cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543253571366289418/848031748814012416/caption.gif

[tired axle]

Perfected is technically below t1 actually, they get 2x health and damage, while t1's get 4x health and 2x damage

[mossy kite]

ah interesting

[ember nebula]

Imagine if enemies other than lunar could get perfected

Or even a perfected Mithrix

[jovial yoke]

Mitrhix with all shields

[misty flax]

shaped glass mithrix

[ember nebula]

Its just mithrix after he takes your transcendence

[dull ingot]

If the rock was my dad he’d be lifting his eyebrow to me saying what are you watching?

[dapper harness]

Gd2

[dull ingot]

Gd2

[ivory depot]

risk of rain more like weather report

[static fossil]

risk of rain more like tornado warning

[foggy badger]

gd2

[lusty gale]

gd2

[wind terrace]

Where’s the

[jovial yoke]

The frog is still at the beginning of commencement after you kill mithrix, or should be

[wind terrace]

It’s not

I just went and it wasn’t there

Im crying

[jovial yoke]

The times I went there the funny frog has been there

[shadow kettle]

why does video intro play every time on game startup

is there a way to disable that

[stable junco]

I got soft locked in here cause nothing is spawning.

[waxen totem]

There's a mod for that

[shadow kettle]

It's weird how that's default

[slim kraken]

there should be a flag set that tells the game to skip it after you watch it the first time

[shadow kettle]

yeah or at least have it as an option in settings? just seems weird as it seems like an intro cutscene that youd only see once

[high torrent]

when this was mentioned to hopoo after anni release he was like "yeah I had a feeling that we forgot something"

[frigid turret]

Hopefully you had the save game mod

[high torrent]

yeah looks like just forgot

[silent tendon]

i forgor 💀

[dull ingot]

or just... use the console lol

[cerulean rapids]

<@&559786374228738069> this guy is advertising in every channel lol

sorry for the ping

[tranquil ridge]

Pathologic#8541 was banned

[undone quartz]

i mean ye i could just ping everyone for my question but that would be annoying so imma ask normally. what`s your favourite red item? just curious

[silent tendon]

MY COCK

[whole kestrel]

Behemoth. Literally just increases your damage and it makes bandit stealth a small nuke

[slate stream]

57 leaf
Love it so much
Plus procs are my life as a captain main so

[cerulean rapids]

you don't have @ everyone perms lol

[half kraken]

also @everyone and @here dont actually ping anyone unless you have the perms for it

[slender sigil]

but for the aesthetic

[mossy garden]

that was after 1.0 release iirc

and they also forgot to fix it for cum i believe (may be wrong i tend to be dumb)

[silent tendon]

also resonance disc is cool

[foggy patrol]

Anyone having issues with multiplayer? My friend and I are trying to play, whenever we join a lobby, one of us gets kicked, or when we start, the one who was invited to the lobby will only have their name show up with the health bar all black. Haven’t had this issue until 7/29/21

[misty flax]

are you on console

[foggy patrol]

steam

[misty flax]

that complicates things

[foggy patrol]

We both turned off vpn

didnt do anything

[misty flax]

ask in #ror2-tech-support and report in #ror2-bug-reports-pc if they dont help

[foggy patrol]

thanks

[shadow kettle]

earlier i had a run as huntress where i had red whip, goat hoof, and 7 energy drinks. needless to say i was Shmoving

[cerulean rapids]

swaying 😳😳😳

[shadow kettle]

im so mad. i had such a good run and then the stupid freezing gruond thing killed me on the moon

[fluid notch]

huntress

[whole kestrel]

lily

[shadow kettle]

does anyone feel like the ending is a bit over the top? like ||u have to do the 4 pillars... beat mithrix... beat lunar chimeras...beat mithrix again... beat mithrix again but weaker... get back to the ship AND defend it before the time runs out. i dont even know if theres anything past THAT because i havent made it that far yet :')||

[fluid notch]

no

[whole kestrel]

it’s a good ending

if it were just

|| like a 2 phase boss fight that would be underwhelming. I think they did good for it. It’s meant to be tough and a bit long||

[shadow kettle]

OTL it is just soo long

lol

i feel like it could be long without having like 10 layers of fighting??

[cerulean rapids]

pillars feel kind of awful to do every time

[dull ingot]

That's why you just skip all the pillars and fly up to the top XD

[misty flax]

gd2

[silent tendon]

Loader

[warm pond]

4 pillars, one of each

[misty flax]

switch the lunar pillars of terraria with the lunar pillars of ror2

[warm pond]

pillar of mass in terraria

sit on your ass for ten fucking minutes

[misty flax]

eclipse 8 pillar of blood in terraria

[lilac moon]

How do I know where to find the pillars in commencement?

[whole kestrel]

Big light beams

[dull ingot]

different pillars will always be in specific buildings.

• Pillars of Mass will always be on your close left, next to the jump pad
• Pillars of Design will be far back next to the cauldrons
• Pillars of Blood will be far right
• Pillars of Soul will be close right, next to the jump pad

[whole kestrel]

what’s special about mass anyways

[dull ingot]

technically true, but they're very hard to see unless you have really good eyes

I recommend just going for the blood pillar area, then soul pillar area, and by then you should have gotten over 4. If not, go to design if you don't have a lot of jump power (like if you don't have Headstompers), or go to mass if you do have a lot of jump power

[dull ingot]

it takes twice as long to charge, meaning double the enemies spawn in

[lilac moon]

Where do I find the jump pads that lead to Mithrix?

[dull ingot]

two are next to the ship you passed on your way in, and one is farther back. I suggest going to the two around the bridge, because I couldn't tell you where the third is

also you'll find them through massive light blue pillars coming from their surface

[misty flax]

wait are pillars supposed to have specific spawns

[dull ingot]

kinda

they're not, like, by the inch, but they have general areas

[mossy garden]

yes

which ones appear is random though

but all locations have 3 (i think) set locations where they can spawn, with 6 total pillars being the max i believe

as in, max pillars regardless of catagory

[misty flax]

whenever i get to the pillars theres like 3 at each area

[lime forge]

max pillars are random

pillars per area do max out at 3 I think

and i think there's always at least 5 but they go up to like 9?

[merry karma]

i've had 4 pillar commencement happen uh

[lime forge]

oh no shit?

you're totally certain you didn't just not see all the pillars?

[misty flax]

just read console bugs again

apparently a giga fuckload of soup and pillars is just console moment

[merry karma]

yes

[shadow kettle]

you can do this?? 😳

Lol I never even thought about that

[slim kraken]

I like the abstract 4 elements in RoR2. it reminds me of a similar set of 4 elements from a game called "Off"

[merry karma]

oh yeah, by trimping (headstompers + some speed items), getting like a dozen of strides of heresy, grappling with loader, trimping with merc and a couple of speed items, captain diablo jump, mult double nailgun power mode flying with like 6 syringes etc.

also ion surge

[tired axle]

and purity on a lot of characters

[full gale]

[tired axle]

egg as well, with a fuel cell

i think you needed a fuel cell for chrysalis as well

[full gale]

Goddamn can you imagine an equipment that make you jump higher and you'd slam the ground dealing damage with each landing

[faint river]

What elements?

[tired axle]

fire, ice, lightning, ???
the 3 elites / the elements arti uses and apparently a 4th one

[faint river]

Ah but there are 6 elites my friend

[full gale]

He means the ones on the moon
Mass, design, blood and soul

[tired axle]

ohhhh

[tired axle]

also, yeah, i know, i just meant tier 1 elites

[hard kraken]

Mario ground pound.

[full gale]

Nah that's just headstompers

[tired axle]

acrid leap

[full gale]

I'm thinking something more similar to spamming acrid's shift

Or hulk's leaps if you will

Also think of that weird jumping box in mario 64 that goes higher and higher with each jump

[slim kraken]

i meant like Mass, Blood, Soul, and Design. they are talked about in the logbook entries

also, I almost got "Swing By". had 2 minutes to beat the last teleporter boss, and it was fucking malachite imps (like a horde of many)

[tired axle]

had something similar, just with like 3 dunes striders as the final tp boss

[slim kraken]

well time to try again lol

just got 2 shrines of order on a single rallypoint

[tired axle]

hell yeah, 4 less chests

[full gale]

Hell yeah time to reroll twice!
Wait.

[slim kraken]

i barely had any items then lol

[slender sigil]

focused convergence

[slim kraken]

also got the cheevo

[half kraken]

focused convergencndnncnde

[slender sigil]

r aewrrrrrrrrrra so anabad

[half kraken]

7 items by stage 3

its funny albeit painful

though that strat actually works as lodr

3x crowbar = you're sold

[tired axle]

now do it as huntress

[slim kraken]

i got quite lucky with the crowbar printer on stage 2 yes

[half kraken]

i can do that

[tired axle]

i did it

[slim kraken]

on stage four I almost died to a magma worm, then on stage 8 i barely killed the dunestriders in time, and almost got shred by templars

[jovial yoke]

command sacrifice

[shadow kettle]

what do these do?

[icy phoenix]

Chooses one of your items from each rarity and turns them all into that

[dull ingot]

@shadow kettle yea. All you gotta do is get 10 wax quails (for basically all characters) and sprint jump into the shield over the ship and you should have the height. Then you might need a hopoo feather or 2 and that's about it.

That literally will launch you into orbit

[icy phoenix]

Or eccentric vase

[silent tendon]

or loader

[icy phoenix]

Or artificer, captain, egg, chrysalis

[shadow kettle]

"get 10 wax quails" Lol you say that like it's an easy thing 🤭 but yeah I definitely wanna try this! I had the hard light afterburner thing as huntress and two hopoo feathers last run so maybe I could have done it then. But I died in the secret artifact realm

[dull ingot]

Yeh... Once you get the artifact of command and sacrifice... You can farm the void fields for items.

[dull ingot]

I've farmed like 250 crowbars, repulsion armor plates, and all kinds of items..

[half kraken]

you dont need to do any of that

[cerulean rapids]

or alternatively don't do any of that and get a single milky chrysalis or eccentric vase

[half kraken]

there are way easier ways to get to the top of the ship yeah

[half kraken]

^

[dull ingot]

Yeah, but you can then one shot mithrix for all 3 phases.

[half kraken]

thats basically cheating

not everyone is gonna enjoy that

[cerulean rapids]

you still had to farm for way too long so that you could just... not play the game

[dull ingot]

Yeah, that's true.

It does let you try out different combos (which is the main reason I use it for)

[half kraken]

you probably would learn these combos better by playing the game normally

people that play with command 99% of the time end up ignoring a lot of items

[static fossil]

that’s all up to personal preference and opinion

[half kraken]

i am simply telling him what i think about the experimentation thingy

when you're not familiar with all the stuff in the game, command off is often a faster learning experience

[static fossil]

command is fun to test out new combos or builds, it’s how I learned what a lot of items do and how they can help me imo

[half kraken]

cause you get to try out more things and be put into more scenarios where you have to choose

[cerulean rapids]

as someone who has played a lot of command, it's definitely bad to use it as a crutch

[half kraken]

with command you're never forced to choose beetwen non ideal things

[static fossil]

I kinda disagree because command allowed me personally to experiment with different items and learn what they do in real runs, I could basically try whatever I wanted and see what worked best for my character

[half kraken]

and you also miss out on a lot of mechanics in the game like shops printers cauldrons adaptive chests etc

[half kraken]

that was the opposite for me because no command run was a real run

[static fossil]

yeah no you shouldn’t play with command all the time but I think it’s a valuable learning tool

[half kraken]

and no command players ever choose for items like slug or whatever as their first ones

[cerulean rapids]

why choose slug when

[static fossil]

xd

[cerulean rapids]

[half kraken]

chadkit

[cerulean rapids]

trueee

but yeah command definitely put me in bad habits and i'd say it actively made me play worse

[half kraken]

like most command players from my experience who say that are still rather clueless about a ton of good stuff in the game

because they have no incentive to try them out whatsoever

[static fossil]

all I’m saying is I can see both points and both can be valuable to learn gameplay mechanics from

ofc you shouldn’t main just command if you want to be a great ror2 player but it’s also all personal opinion

[half kraken]

i feel like the regular game already gives you a good enough experience for learning items

like command is genuinely useful and good to have for any player but people who just use it all the time whenever they want to experiment something are usually the ones that miss out on a lot

like 9/10 times if you ask people that constantly use command for normal runs things like

say " what do you think of "
they're gonna say its bad

[high torrent]

til that cautious slug scales with level

[half kraken]

because in command there is just no incentive to ever go for anything remotely non ideal

and even when people are just experimenting they just go straight for something op and never really get put into creative situations

[static fossil]

I’m not gonna argue with you because I literally said I see both points of view but bashing people who use command for fun or as a learning tool and calling it cheating when it’s just a gameplay mechanic isn’t cool imo

[high torrent]

truly creative situation is squids&fireworks + equipment beacon captain

[dull ingot]

Again, most people just find a single combo and stick with it, which is why i like to go crazy trying new combos like chronobauble and stun grenade XD

[half kraken]

i called it cheating when they were literally discussing strategies, i did not bash him for that

[static fossil]

obv you don’t want to use command as a crutch as I’ve said many times but I do think command is valuable to explore new combos and builds

[high torrent]

aye perma stunlock

[half kraken]

i just said that my pov is that playing with command is more often than not a negative learning experience

and most new people that think its a good learning experience fme just dont seem to realise theyre missing out on some stuff

like i said i think its the other way around

i think the normal game is more valuable for exploring new combos and builds

[dull ingot]

I'd disagree, as a new player being able to stack items to see how they scale in-game allowed me to work on different strats based off of what items I'd get.

[half kraken]

specially because most command players i see just end up sticking to more generic and ideal things

[jovial yoke]

Playing mostly command and lodr made me much worse at the game. I do not recommend only playing easy mode

[half kraken]

and not usually go for actually non ideal things evrr

[static fossil]

I disagree because as a new player you have no idea what items do or what stacks of them do, what items work well together, what is good for your character, and command gives you a chance to explore that

[half kraken]

like the whole concept of trying to see if something is good or bad doesnt work when the fix is 1 button away

[half kraken]

wiki and logbook do exactly that for you

nothing stops you from stacking things in normal runs either

rng is a thing but if you just keep trying to make actual decisions youre gonna try out everything over time

[dull ingot]

Like a completely dull combo is tesla coil with will-o-wisp, leads to AFKable board clears.

[static fossil]

obv they shouldn’t use it constantly because they should try out non-artifact gameplay, but it’s really good for learners. When I read over the wiki I have a really hard time visualizing or conceptualizing what items do

It was most valuable for me to test them out in game

[half kraken]

well i did not feel that way

[static fossil]

unfortunate

[half kraken]

specially when i found the normal non-command game perfectly ideal for testing out these items

[static fossil]

you’re allowed to have your own opinion but stop telling people how to learn or how to play the game :)

[dull ingot]

I agree to disagree here

[half kraken]

youre literally doing the same thing as me

ever heard of opposing opinions????

[jovial yoke]

[static fossil]

no I’m saying that I see both points of view and people should be able to play command if they want to lol

[cerulean rapids]

my friends do artifact of command when we do multiplayer just because they like it and we literally have to set a rule against autofarm items lmao

[half kraken]

i didnt say you shouldnt play command if you want to

i only said i dont think its an effective learnin experience

[dull ingot]

Yes, gotta avoid that

[static fossil]

I’m saying that I see it as a valuable learning tool or just a fun tool, and you’re saying people are cheating by using it and it actively makes you a worse player

[half kraken]

based on anecdotal evidence from looking at other people and my own experience

[half kraken]

i didnt say this though lol

when i brought up " cheating " was when we were literally discussing normal play strats

[static fossil]

.

[half kraken]

like i said

[static fossil]

about art of command

[half kraken]

i didnt say it was cheating to bash off anyone

[static fossil]

anyways we can disagree on this but stop telling people how to play the game lmao

[half kraken]

.

instead i presented normal and actually realistically doable solutions

[half kraken]

lmao im not telling anyone how to play the game

[static fossil]

gd2

[dull ingot]

Okay chill guys. I didn't feel like stret was bashing me, and he was just giving his opinion.

[half kraken]

it actively makes you a worse player

i literally just said i dont find it a very ideal player experience

yeah nori you need to aqquire better reading comprehension

i have never said a single time in this discussion you shouldnt play with command or whatever

[cerulean rapids]

stret never said it was cheating to use command, he just said it was basically cheating to farm void with command and sacrifice so you could one shot everything lmao

[static fossil]

we literally do not have to do the personal attack thing I agreed to disagree with you

[half kraken]

i literally only said my pov on command as a learning experience

[static fossil]

ok good for u then

glad you learn better without it

and I’m glad you’ll continue to play without command

[jovial yoke]

Playing with only command for a long ass time made me actively worse at the game and I have almost 0 fun playing with it now. I don't think it's that good for learning either

[half kraken]

and i am going to tell my pov to other people regardless of how much you disagree

[static fossil]

ok good for you as well

we can all disagree and we can all share our opinion

👍

[half kraken]

because i find most people end up learning better and having more fun with the game like this according to my pov and the pov of most people who actually ended up sticking to the game for a long time

[static fossil]

cool

[dull ingot]

Or the achievement hunters trying to kill Mithrix with the suplly drop

[half kraken]

lole

i guess that makes more sense for bandit's r because it can proc

though no need to worry about it much for captain because his beacons have no proc coefficient

just make sure you cant start an uncontrollable proc chain against him

if you need damage bleed is good as it procs nothing (goes for both of these achievements)

[cerulean rapids]

yeah actually command is great for achievements

but i think using it for every unlock made me think of the game as more of a grind

i think it's definitely better to just play normally and not think about unlocks except for specific characters/abilities you want really bad

[half kraken]

yeah

there are only a few shitty achievements where command is like a must for a non crappy experience

[silent tendon]

I play commans for challenges

[half kraken]

like bandit hemorrhage

most challenges are fine in the normal game tho

[dull ingot]

Yeh... Like for bandit hemmorage I just grab soldier syringes and backup mags.

[half kraken]

ye

[cerulean rapids]

bandit hemorrhage is the shittiest unlock ever and it's so annoying to get

[half kraken]

that challenge is so dumb

[cerulean rapids]

actually the least fun i've had in the game to date

[silent tendon]

Right but I don't want to go on a scavenger hunt for 12 fucking crowbars

[dull ingot]

I do like command for stupid challenges

[cerulean rapids]

yeah

[half kraken]

i'd argue merc ethereal is a way worse unlock

[cerulean rapids]

agreed but it's actually a viable ability at least

[half kraken]

i think command is actually gokd for testing out creative builds when you actually learned a lot outside of it

[cerulean rapids]

and it's fun to use imo

[half kraken]

like after youre used to non command your command creativity increases dramatically

[dull ingot]

Like beating the game by not attacking....

But only using procs.

[static fossil]

mfw we literally agreed on this the whole time

[half kraken]

no

you said command was good when you dont know the items

[dull ingot]

Now the question is.... Who's ready for a vanilla run XD

[half kraken]

i think that command actually gets 100x better when you know every item decently

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/855071789708345354/OP_HUNTRESS.mp4

[static fossil]

command is good when you mix it in with non command gameplay

it’s fine when you’re not running solely command

[half kraken]

like i dont think learning items with command provides an accurate experience of how they actually perform

specially in a game where you can endlessly stack virtually anything that isnt a red and it will grow into braindead levels of power

[cerulean rapids]

i refuse to believe the file name

[half kraken]

learning them outside of command ends up in a better experience once you actually get to be able to do big brain command shenanigans

[dull ingot]

Lol turtle... I kinda agree.

[cerulean rapids]

video won't load

[half kraken]

f same for me

[slender sigil]

isthat

[cerulean rapids]

it's an issue with attachment links

[slender sigil]

oh wa

[half kraken]

ok basically i used arrow rain, artifact of chaos, razorwire and repulsion plate to make huntres have actually good damage

[cerulean rapids]

they just break sometimes

[dull ingot]

(Insert sad music)

[jovial yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901453834256404/855071789708345354/OP_HUNTRESS.mp4

try it now

[half kraken]

works now

[jovial yoke]

media.net links are stinky and take forever to play

[cerulean rapids]

i love how 3 armor plating is enough to make arrow rain do 1 dmg

[half kraken]

1-2 is enough

[dull ingot]

I love playing ror2 like a battle royale XD

[cerulean rapids]

what a great ability

[half kraken]

most early game small hits will be enough with 1 plate

thats not the ability's problem, its damage is ok in comparison to ballista (often higher actually)

the problem is that it has 0.2 proc coefficient so it scales like shit

[cerulean rapids]

the issue is the damage is SO much less consistent as well

[half kraken]

flamethrower from arti, rex drill etc will also do 1 damage

[cerulean rapids]

good, flamethrower deserves it

[half kraken]

flamethrower is like 4400% damage with burn tho

4400% damage 6 secs cooldown

versus

like 2000% on huntress with 12 sec cooldown

[silent tendon]

Deafault moveset huntress kinda stinky ngl

[dull ingot]

(Insert stinky meme)

[jovial yoke]

default mando is my favorite

[silent tendon]

Roll?

Roll bad

[dull ingot]

Default mando pretty good.

[half kraken]

yeah default moveset huntress is just god awful

[silent tendon]

But seriously what are the advantages of tactical roll

[cerulean rapids]

is there ever a situation where flurry > strafe

[half kraken]

i dont get how people end up prefering huntress base m1 over alt m1

imagine being locked to a 3x worse version of commando's m1

[cerulean rapids]

idrk the numbers for each one

[jovial yoke]

Default mando just really isn't fun. Slide feels so much better and blast is very swag. I'm trying ruin mando now but I got braindead shit thanks to a few red drops and recycler

[half kraken]

every time you get 16% crit or more

[cerulean rapids]

lmao

[half kraken]

hiigh crit flurry absolutely shits on strafe

[cerulean rapids]

flurry is so much more fun to use

[silent tendon]

I unlocked flurry and thought "wow i can do damage now!"

[half kraken]

base flurry :
230% dps | 1.6 proc rate | 160% proc dps

base strafe :
300% dps | 2.0 proc rate | 300% proc dps

max crit flurry : 920% dps | 3.2 proc rate | 644% proc dps

max crit strafe : 600% dps | 2.0 proc rate | 600% proc dps

@cerulean rapids

for comparison commando is

base : 600% dps | 6 proc rate | 600% proc dps

max crit : 1200% dps | 6 proc rate | 1200% proc dps

[silent tendon]

The first time i did a huntress run with alt skills i found a crit printer stage 1

[cerulean rapids]

[dull ingot]

Unlocking purity is a game-changer (or at least was for me)

[half kraken]

purity kinda cring

proc items too strong

[silent tendon]

Purity mando

[half kraken]

the only character where i really like purity in early game is acrid because purity acrid is super op

[jovial yoke]

huntress was the second to last character I got mastery for. I didn't like her at all

[silent tendon]

Huntress is ok

[dull ingot]

Purity merc can nearly invincible.

[half kraken]

i got first mastery as lodr and huntress

last mastery commando

[jovial yoke]

my first masteries were captain and lodr

[silent tendon]

I got first asstery commando because multiplayer

[cerulean rapids]

i never run purity really

[half kraken]

with a lot of purities yeah with evis

regular merc can do way more damage though, specially with slicing winds

[cerulean rapids]

slicing winds my beloved

lodr was definitely my first mastery

[jovial yoke]

captain used c*mmand and obliterated, lodr also used command but killed mithrix, shortly after I killed mithrix without command though. It was very easy

[half kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901453834256404/852255989872853022/sw.mp4

[cerulean rapids]

idk who else i got it for first

[half kraken]

i went for mithrix with all my masteries

[cerulean rapids]

i did command with lodr to get captain

[jovial yoke]

Only with captain I didn't kill mithrix.

[merry karma]

20% crit

[cerulean rapids]

most of my masteries were obliterations with beads

[half kraken]

**16%

[silent tendon]

All my masteries were from multiplayer

[cerulean rapids]

^

[half kraken]

actually realistically speaking

a bit higher than 20%

because flurry proc coefficient sucks

@merry karma heyeheyeyeye can you do some math for me

[merry karma]

when theblacklist is flushed

[half kraken]

when does flurry's dps x 0.7 become higher than strafe's dps

[merry karma]

wait

[dull ingot]

I think my masteries were huntress, bandit, commando, captain, mercenary, artificer.

[silent tendon]

I have commando, engineer, and loader i think

[merry karma]

so here's the chart comparison for strafe vs flurry

[cerulean rapids]

only one i don't have is merc i think

maybe bandit

because i don't like bandit

[dull ingot]

I do enjoy some bandit... Merc is really fun at times.

[silent tendon]

Bandit's kinda cool

[jovial yoke]

I got bandit's mastery with command and glass. That run was stupid as hell, one shot every single one of mithrix's phases with desperado

[silent tendon]

Pretty low health though

[dull ingot]

The only character I don't really enjoy is rex.... But then again I don't play'em much.

[silent tendon]

If they don't have armor they're a bad character 😎

[half kraken]

rex mastery is pretty fun because he cheeses mithrix harder than arti

[silent tendon]

Only character i don't enjoy is merc

[jovial yoke]

Getting rex's alt utility really made me enjoy him a lot more. But unlocking that piece of shit was so fucking annoying

[cerulean rapids]

i used to not like merc

now i don't really mind him as much

[silent tendon]

They way i got it was complicated

[half kraken]

merc is only bad for mithrix and monsoon
edit : eclipse

[silent tendon]

Wait no

[dull ingot]

Which challenge is that? Alt utl for rex

[silent tendon]

I got the alt special

[half kraken]

wait no not monsoon

[cerulean rapids]

dunk the dunestrider

[half kraken]

i meant to say eclipse ajshshshshahshhshshshshshshshjs

[jovial yoke]

I looped with fucking command swarms sacrifice on rainstorm until I got dunestrider on aqueduct and he didn't die. It was a 2 hour+ run

[dull ingot]

Ahhh yeah.

[jovial yoke]

I hated it so fucking much

[half kraken]

oh hey groove salad

[cerulean rapids]

i got it first try because of a great tp spawn

[dull ingot]

Lol stret saying merc was bad for monsoon was like.......

[half kraken]

i think some people in the lab where asking why you were gone

yea i meant to say eclipse lmaoaoa

[dull ingot]

I figured....

I was just like, dead inside. He isn't perfect, but he isn't bad at all.

[silent tendon]

How tf do you play merc while having fun

[cerulean rapids]

what keybinds should i use for ror1

[mellow mango]

I think winds maybe struggles a bit on mithrix but winds isnt the only way to play merc so idk

[jovial yoke]

Merc's one of my favorites, I like him a lot. My opinions are usually invalid though because I mained lodr

[half kraken]

you learn to combo

[silent tendon]

I main lodr

[half kraken]

yeah this

[cerulean rapids]

lodr my beloved

[half kraken]

If you pick evis hes fine for mithrix and eclipse

[cerulean rapids]

grapple hook tomboy mommy

[dull ingot]

Loader has some real mobility and versatility....

[silent tendon]

One shot gamer

[static fossil]

this

[cerulean rapids]

i want loader to one shot me 😳😳😳😳

[jovial yoke]

Loader is easy and boring as hell to me after a while of playing her. I just don't have much fun with her anymore

[silent tendon]

Hehe shift

[dull ingot]

Lol turtle...

[half kraken]

on the merc topic 6mm its kinda debatable too like

[silent tendon]

Also pylon fucking sucks

[half kraken]

evis is pretty weaker for everything else but its pretty fine and nice regardless while way better on mith

[half kraken]

so one could argue evis x sw 6mm boils down to whether or not you want to have fun get a crowdfunder / helfire / capacitor or whatever

[cerulean rapids]

this emoji is awful

[dull ingot]

I did enjoying beating mithrix on eclipse for the first time... It was like, I did it.

[jovial yoke]

Should I order this stupid run away

Been bored as hell with it

[silent tendon]

Do it no balls

[dull ingot]

Sure

[jovial yoke]

[dull ingot]

Should be able to jump up now. 🤣

[silent tendon]

Nice lunars

[cerulean rapids]

7 beads lmao

[jovial yoke]

died to the first phase 15 minutes in because he knocked me into the ceiling and threw the shards at me

What having only vertical mobility does to a mfer

[limpid briar]

He juggled you like he was playing Tekken.

[slender sigil]

owned

[silent tendon]

gd1

[tired axle]

what the actual fuck is this tele spot, it's behind the pillar

[mossy kite]

UHHH

[high torrent]

what no it cannot be so

[mossy kite]

My missle thing wont stop

Like its spamming

I'm not even attacking

[high torrent]

it's in front of it right?

oh right

it's a signal to buy a pc

[high torrent]

good order

[mossy kite]

Bruhhh my games gonna crash from all the rockets

[high torrent]

yes

[merry karma]

yeah i had that what about it

chests can also spawn there

[whole kestrel]

I’ve gotten that like 3 times this game don’t like me

[high torrent]

wetland aspect moment

[dull ingot]

console bug

[mossy kite]

I think it just crashed my run..

I got 3 artifacts that run
Will it save

[dull ingot]

did a thing pop up at the top of your screen?

it should say something about unlocking the artifact

[mossy kite]

I think it did for the first two, I crashed like in the reliquary for the first one tho

Last*

I'm just scared to close the game its frozen rn

[dull ingot]

the first two will. If you didn't complete the third, then no, it won't save

[mossy kite]

I also unlocked aotd will that save
Idk if items and artifacts work dif that's why I ask

Oop game just fully crashed lol

[dull ingot]

if you got the pop up, it should save

there are some problems with saves getting corrupted, but i don't think that should be an issue if the game crashed because of something in the game

[tulip lantern]

Usually the games saves the achievements even if you crash or if it doesn’t save the rest of a run

[warm pond]

[round coyote]

[misty flax]

gd2

[rough falcon]

57 leaf printer :3

[silk hearth]

what...

i could of sworn it was 47... leaf..

[rough falcon]

close enough

[silk hearth]

i mean

the game says 57 leaf so lol

guess i just thought wrong

[slim kraken]

a ball of leafs basically doubles proc chance for atg

[silent tendon]

It's 57, don't know where you got 47 from

[sacred parrot]

Can someone help me with something

The magma worm won’t come back from the ground

[silent tendon]

Make it cookies

[sacred parrot]

Nvm it came back but i died next stage

[slim kraken]

oof

[silent tendon]

Ah yes my favorite channel

[slim kraken]

maybe that was it's plan all along, to stall until the difficulty got too high

[silk hearth]

magma worms are the strangest creature in all of ror2

i have absolutely no fucking clue what goes on through their head

or what the fuck they even do

like generally its

literally avoid you until all of your allies are dead
ramming speed
shit fireballs out of some random ass segment
collision glitch you into them killing you

[slim kraken]

I was going to give an honest answer but what you said is funnier

[shadow kettle]

there are few things I am more afraid of in this world than wandering vagrant big explodey attack

I panic like a mf once it starts charging up

[silk hearth]

vagrants are responsible for like 60% of my deaths

simply because early game
vagrant spawn

[shadow kettle]

<-- is it just me or is this thing no good

I feel like there aren't many status ailment things

[silent tendon]

Gesture

Bands

[mellow mango]

its kind of ok with bands but even then a lot of stuff is better yeah

[shadow kettle]

What are gesture bands

(im kind of new to game)

[slim kraken]

those are two different items. a gesture [of the drowned] reduces equipment cooldown but makes it activate automatically. Bands release a devastating elemental attack on heavy hits, but require a cooldown

[misty flax]

god i fucking hate how the new vagrant looks compared to the ror1 style

[silent tendon]

Basically your bands will have a reduced cooldown

And malachites are leas dangerous

[slim kraken]

to clarify the band cooldown counts as a debuff, so the blast shower resets that (which is an equipment and will be buffed by the gesture)

[tulip nimbus]

Thanks for sharing bro

[sterile jasper]

My wiki page is failing to load. Anyone else?

[silk hearth]

its
alright
Bands refer to an achievement item you get at the abandonded aequduct for completeing a puzzle, they can only be fired off every so often but the blast-shower allows for the immediete cooldown reset.
otherwise its like
better than nothing
fire elites have some pretty nasty damage and popping one of those can save your life
same for later on levels if you decide to 'loop' in a run and face tougher enemies with meaner abilites

[tulip nimbus]

It's down rn

What question did you have

[silk hearth]

we are the wiki 😎

[tulip nimbus]

Game discussion 2

[high torrent]

you can also delete mithrix big spinny with blast shower

and many other projectiles

[dull ingot]

Wait wait what

[slim kraken]

idk the "projectile deletion" of the blast shower isnt too noticeable for me

[dull ingot]

So hypothetically if you had .01 second timer for blast shower, you would essentially have a microbots?

[languid yarrow]

mmmm, I don't think so

You'd still be taking damage

[tulip nimbus]

Yes that doesn't sound correct

[languid yarrow]

Just not any extra damage over time

But you'd still be getting your shit wrecked by getting regularly hit

[slim kraken]

if you had enough medkits youd just instantly heal off any damage anyway right? unless you got hit twice on the same frame or something

[languid yarrow]

Cuz blast shower doesn't stop you from getting hit in the first place

[tulip nimbus]

Which is what 99% of his attack do

Spinny is luckily only single hit tho

[slim kraken]

oh right funny shockwave ignores health gate

[tulip nimbus]

Yup

And some of his moves just

Yea

[slim kraken]

though it should get deleted by the blast shower, because I know microbots zaps it

[languid yarrow]

blast shower only clears debuffs

[silent tendon]

And nearby projectiles

[languid yarrow]

i...don't think Mithrix's shockwave counts

[mellow mango]

its a projectile

[spark pawn]

i've seen it happen with microbots but i didn't know blast shower cleared nearby projectiles

[mellow mango]

yeah its a very unnoticeable feature

[slim kraken]

like what's the range on it? (i assume it's pretty small)

[spark pawn]

Very small. Didn't find a number but only expect it to help with overloading projectiles attached to you or a mushrum puddle you're standing in.

[mellow mango]

it uses some like vector math and stuff so hard to tell exactly but based on about 6m

[tulip nimbus]

I never knew that lmao what

Does it work on awu blast

[mellow mango]

yeah I believe I have seen some clips of that

I honestly have not noticed it a single time myself in my however many hours of playtime so its like something you have to very actively focus on

[high torrent]

gottem blast shower nonnbelievers😎

[tulip nimbus]

I've picked up shower like twice ever

[silent tendon]

It says it in the description

I use bands loader so

[spark pawn]

with the current state of console blast shower might as well be considered the best equipment

[mellow mango]

sawmerang console is pretty epic 😏

[silent tendon]

Whwt it do

[cerulean rapids]

basically all dots one shot on console lmao

[dull ingot]

right, it's only projectiles.

there's still hitscan stuff

[slim kraken]

i hate the ratatatattacks. but at least they don't have perfect tracking

[misty flax]

gd2

[ember nebula]

Pog

[subtle cairn]

yes

i had two TC-280 and on abyssal depths they got stuck in the game and were spinning like crazy

[echo dagger]

Yup, that’s a couple a keepers right there

[shadow kettle]

I did not know u could have two... Wow...

[ember nebula]

You can have as many as the map spawns, if you have the coin, that is

[whole kestrel]

please don’t bust to the fact that you may have more than one tc-280

[slender sigil]

rip drizzlegasm

[slim kraken]

gamer drone

[strong ridge]

Hey guys guess what

I think that energy drink is a good item

[misty flax]

anybody capable of thinking agrees with you

[tired axle]

it's pretty good after the buff, not just a straight downgrade compared to goat hoof anymore

[tiny drum]

I can’t remember. What buff was it?

[slim kraken]

can is 25 where hoof is only 14

[tired axle]

from 30% (+20%) to 25% (+25%)

[slim kraken]

oh yeah

[tired axle]

well, not really, hoof boosts your speed multiplier by 0.14, while drink boosts it by 0.17, because meth

[tiny drum]

Ohhhhh, yeah. Definitely scales better into the late game now.

[tired axle]

and before the buff that 20 was just worse than hoof

[tired axle]

actually, a better way of saying it is that hoof boosts your speed by 14% while not sprinting, and by 20.3% while sprinting

and drink is just that 25% while sprinting, which is luckily better now

[tiny drum]

How do you feel about the Fresh Meat to Bison Steak change?

[slim kraken]

wait why more while sprinting? isnt it just +14% for both?

[tired axle]

well, no, because math

[slim kraken]

I am too new a player to be able to compare.

[tired axle]

i would like, just bring up the formula rn, but the wiki is still down for me

alright, here, num53 is the speed multiplier, and num18 is your energy drink count

it's divided by the sprint speed multiplier, which results in a 17.24% boost

and hoof is never divided by it, even while sprinting

[faint onyx]

Math moment

[high torrent]

def cool

[tiny drum]

You think it’s better or worse?

[high torrent]

better of course

hellfire tincture synergy

[slim kraken]

hmmm

[hidden panther]

ok can someone explain why bison steak is good? maybe im stupid but doesn't it mean it takes slightly longer to get back above OSP making it bad for the same reason shield gen is bad

[merry karma]

lmao

bison steak is bad

psg is good

[hidden panther]

2 will mean your always have to go 7 seconds before getting osp back tho

(it kinda is tho)

the hp increase at least

[mellow mango]

yeah thats why mul-t is bad, too much hp

[summer terrace]

#ror2-game-questions message

[tired axle]

Does anyone have the ghor screenshots?

[summer terrace]

lol

they're all pinned I think

[hidden panther]

also multi probably has the best healing potential in the game with nail gun, not that you need it if your running dual wield

[hidden panther]

shields are taken into account with osp tho right

[tired axle]

Most good healing is % based anyways

[tired axle]

Yes, but how often do you get hit to osp twice in 9s?

[hidden panther]

fair point

but at what point will shield gens give you an extra hit after you the game hits level cap?

[tepid wolf]

But in late game you won anyway

Basically nothing matters late game

[hidden panther]

yeah ok

[tired axle]

I believe max damage from a single hit was 3k at level cap, and that's like a malachite vagrant nova

[tepid wolf]

And before stage 8 you only really get bonked into OSP by Mithrix or malachites

And those guys are hitting less often than once every 9 seconds

[tired axle]

So you can easily survive most normal hits by stacking health in late game, especially with armor

[tepid wolf]

Also stacking PSGs in late game makes you a tank

Since it's % based and printers for PSGs are common

[tired axle]

Didn't crescendo stack psgs for his 1 Item per rarity challange thingy?

[hidden panther]

makes sense

[tired axle]

Found

[hidden panther]

ill be real i heard osp and bl2 pstd took over

[high torrent]

osp skill issue entered the chat

[cerulean rapids]

lmao of course it's rose buckler psg

crescendo is a chad

[silent tendon]

ghctfdgbvhbrtfg

purchases

[lime niche]

does anyone had advice to completing mercenary prismatic trial ability thing?

[tired axle]

#prismatic-trials can probably help

[formal eagle]

i just lost my monsoon run bc i forgot to obliterate :( rip commando skin

[lilac moon]

Three tri tip daggers or two gasoline and one tri-tip?

Which is more lethal fire or bleeding?

[summer terrace]

2 tri tip and 1 gas

[shadow kettle]

I love huntress's mobility but she's so weeak💀

Just wanna beat game but sometimes I get hit with a heck ton of enemies and I just cannot feasibly fend them off 😔

[willow canopy]

try using huntress R ability and blinking the fuck out of there

[dull ingot]

just use m2

[shadow kettle]

no i mean like...this was my last run

theres like 10 bosses there & its just a slog!

[shadow kettle]

dont get me wrong i get like stacks of hopoo feathers and i am movin around like crazy! but sometimes you have to just fight them and its like impossible

[silent tendon]

Why normal blink

Also arrow rain

[shadow kettle]

oh i am sorta New and havent unlocked many abilities yet

[silent tendon]

Yeah get tri blink and ballista

Tri blink lets you dodge

Ballista does at least some damage

[shadow kettle]

i mean dodging is great with huntress, im good on that front! its more just damage and dealing with hordes of high-level enemies

it just becomes a slog of chipping away at them and dodging like a madman

[silent tendon]

Well tri blink is faster and has a lower cooldown

But it can't go vertically

[dull ingot]

i find tri blink more useful

[tulip lantern]

42 minutes stage 4 😟

[dull ingot]

also balista is the single target dps huntress really needs

[silent tendon]

Oh yeah you should also go faster lmao

[dull ingot]

also flurry scales way better late game

[silent tendon]

I like tri blink because spam

[silent tendon]

You only need a bit of crit

[dull ingot]

mhm

30% if im not mistaken

to out dps strafe

[silent tendon]

16 i think

[shadow kettle]

ooo i didn't know this ty

I try to get as much loot as possible lol

[tulip lantern]

Yeah you need to balance looting and speed

Since the more time you spend on one stage the harder the next one will get

Usually on rainstorm you can take a bit more time though to loot

[silent tendon]

On drizzle just full clear every stage lmao

[dull ingot]

i think a good tempo is about 5-7 min per stage

[silent tendon]

Take like 10 minutes max per stage

Yeah 5 is pretty good

[dull ingot]

and try to get void as early as possibly if ur gonna do it

like try and nab it stage one or 2

cuz it only gets harder the later u start it

having ur first void spawn at 17 min in be elder lumerians is just...no bueno

[shadow kettle]

void?

(also ty for the advices :'D )

[silent tendon]

It's between time

[dull ingot]

do you know about newt altars?

[shadow kettle]

yup

the frozen blue things

that take u to blue lunar store

[dull ingot]

ok so basically when u go into the newt zone if you drop down that big pit theres a little cave in the wall you can go down and at the bottom is a portal to the void

its like a wave based challenge for items

thers a zone you gotta stay in to charge up like the boss teleporters

[silent tendon]

Also remember to """legitimately""" get 4 billion lunar coins

[dull ingot]

and it gets progressively harder with more enemies+items on the enemies

[silent tendon]

More like 4.2 billion

[dull ingot]

each of the 9 cells you gotta charge gives an item with a guaranteed red at the end

oh and also if ur not in the charge zone u take damage

like 4 per tick, but a single armor plating brings it down to 1 damage or a single bungus will out heal the damage

[shadow kettle]

bungus

ahhahah

[dull ingot]

heheheh bungus

[silent tendon]

Engineer drugs

[shadow kettle]

thanks for the advice!! i did not know about secret void zone, this game has many Surprises

i thought it was a glitch when i fell down that pit and didnt die lol

[dull ingot]

it literally has easter eggs

:)

yeah thers so many little hidden things

[shadow kettle]

yeah i still dont know what that little thing in the ground is at aqueduct... or that clock timer in rallypoint delta

[dull ingot]

hope that helps u homie!

oh on rally point if u get to the chest before 10 minutes you get a free preon acumulator

basically its a nuke on a 140 second cooldown

[shadow kettle]

ohhh! ty!

[silent tendon]

Bfg 9000

[shadow kettle]

like i dont wanna look it up and get spoiled? but at the same time idk if i can figure out these things myself :')

[dull ingot]

oh and also so you know each stage 4 has a 100% red spawn

the lava and mushroom ones have red chests and the sirens call has the boss like you saw

[silent tendon]

That wasn't awu i think

Just solus

Next time you get to siren's call break some eggs

[dull ingot]

get to the clock timer before your game timer hits 10 minutes, and I'm assuming the "little thing" was a cylinder on the ground?

[shadow kettle]

oh no i did... there was a surprise boss... "friend of vultures" (i forget the name)

i did not like it

[dull ingot]

ally worship unit

AWU

[silent tendon]

Yeah yoh get a ref

Red

[shadow kettle]

i got a Dead 😔

[silent tendon]

As a loader main i love him

[shadow kettle]

yeah! i only found it bc i used radar scanner and it showed up as "?"

[dull ingot]

at least you learned about the boss, though. That means you'll be better equipped to defeat it next time :)

[shadow kettle]

im guessing it has to do with the "hidden level" aqueduct is supposed to have?

[silent tendon]

No

In aqueduct you can get 2 of the best greens

[dull ingot]

there are two of them on the map. Play engineer and place one of your turrets on one

on the other, stand on it yourself and you'll unlock a gate. Go find the gate, and you'll unlock two amazing items :)

[dull ingot]

shhhh
spoilers!!111 😩

wiki is still down smh

[shadow kettle]

thats....so specific??? who is gonna find that out on their own? but also ty :')

[dull ingot]

well, you can also play in multiplayer and get a buddy to stand on one of the buttons

the point is, you have to press down both buttons at the same time

[silent tendon]

Also captain can press one down

[dull ingot]

true, but I'm assuming they don't have captain unlocked yet

[frigid turret]

Or you can try using using Claypot

[dull ingot]

if they haven't unlocked the gate, I'm assuming they haven't beaten the game haha

[dull ingot]

oh, god 😆

it's so difficult aaa

[dull ingot]

its up on mobile strangely enough

only on pc is it down

[silent tendon]

It's sad how It's hard to get free bands as loader

[dull ingot]

mobile cringe
too many adds

[dull ingot]

just use ||effigy of grief|| lol

||||

[silent tendon]

Cringe equipment

[frigid turret]

I wonder if tougher times has weight to it and if that weight can be used for the pressure plate

[dull ingot]

more like crippled equipment

[silent tendon]

What

[dull ingot]

doesnt loader have the thingy she can place

uh the like lil drone

[frigid turret]

What?

[silent tendon]

Pylon cringe

[dull ingot]

it floats around too much to be reliable

[frigid turret]

Oh I meant to say forgive me please

[dull ingot]

oh

[dull ingot]

hey its still easier than literally anyone but engie

mayhapse

honestly not sure

[dull ingot]

and captain

and just... using effigy lol

[frigid turret]

I don't know why is said tougher times.

[dull ingot]

oh yeah cap is easy too forgot about him lol

[frigid turret]

Both stuffed toys

[dull ingot]

how many people here have played the original ror?

[frigid turret]

I'd wager alot

I know I did

[dull ingot]

noice

[shadow kettle]

you can stand on the vagrant!!? hehehhe

[dull ingot]

vagrant easymode lol

[silent tendon]

You can stand on any entity

[shadow kettle]

giddy up

[shadow kettle]

also here the shrine of the mountain was overlapping with the shrine of chance and I didnt realize...so i accidentally activated the challenge. despicable

[silent tendon]

Always hit mountain

[silk hearth]

Always hit mountain

even if you'll die

[shadow kettle]

why?

[silent tendon]

You get 2 red whips

[shadow kettle]

or two death marks >:o(

[jovial yoke]

I always hit mountains, unless im doing stupid no item runs

[silent tendon]

Death mark my not beloved

[shadow kettle]

i dont think i have ever been able to apply 4 debuffs to an enemy

[jovial yoke]

death mark is hard to activate, but it's insanely good when you can. A lot of characters have 1 debuff already, and rex has 2. Rex obviously does it the easiest

[frigid turret]

Always hit the mountain shrine

[silent tendon]

I play loader so

[jovial yoke]

loader

[silent tendon]

No bleeds

[frigid turret]

Just pure muscle

[silent tendon]

No item debuffs

Do base kit debuffs

[frigid turret]

Wait so are you saying you dont hit mountain because loader?

[silent tendon]

Other than runalds

[silent tendon]

No I'm saying death mark is horseshit

[frigid turret]

Oh. It's definitely late game tier item

One time I did like three mountain shrines and my buddy died. All the items. Death mark

Thanks game

[jovial yoke]

Getting only chronobaubles with several mountain shrines in coop

[frigid turret]

At least it helps the death marks

[slim kraken]

cripple slow every enemy for a whole minute

[frigid turret]

Someone on reddit asked for advice about running multis saw blade and everyone told him not to.

Though ever since I heard it I can't help but want to try and run two saws with secondary special and speed run loop

It's not left my head for days

[slim kraken]

chronobauble is nice, it's one of the few items that has a 100% chance to inflict it's debuff on hit

[jovial yoke]

reddit users telling someone not to use the second highest dps m1 that procs shit insanely fast

[slim kraken]

double saw is fun in singleplayer. in multiplayer it's not great, since most things die before i can reach them

[frigid turret]

I want a sweet tooth skin for Melty if I do this.

Melty is Mul-t for those who don't God mode with him 24/7

[dull ingot]

yeah, you could always stand on a vagrant

every enemy has a hitbox you can stand on

[frigid turret]

Stand on Mythrix to cheese him

[slim kraken]

I just took a closer look, and it looks like loader is like, breaking her arms everytime she punches

[dull ingot]

what

oh lol

[dull ingot]

k I just checked, and the models look fine

she's just swinging her arms forward. I don't see anything wrong with it

[slim kraken]

huh, just looks strange in game i guess

[steady tusk]

https://youtu.be/EGXPAoyP_cg https://youtu.be/kffacxfA7G4 is it just me or do these songs sound similar at certain parts

[patent pumice]

its just you

[steady tusk]

ITS LIKE AT ONE PART THEY SOUND SIMILAR I SWEAR

AT 5:30 into The Rain formerly know as purple it sounds like the main part of the justin bieber song

[jovial yoke]

[frigid turret]

Comparing such things is a sin against God.

[steady tusk]

BUT THEY SOUND SIMILAR DONT THEY

[runic merlin]

Your right to free speech, hand it over

[high torrent]

just listen to prince's purple rain and then make conclusions lmao

[languid yarrow]

it's literally just the purple rain guitar solo lol

[misty flax]

internet kiddos when they learn what a "homage" is

[silk hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-get-down-zahra-zahra-cat-get-down-zahra-gif-22385160

[dapper harness]

Risk of Rain 2

[silent tendon]

Noita

This is now noita server 2

[willow canopy]

how about

no

[distant spruce]

what is:
mercenary canceling?
is tt tougher times?
is rb rose buckler? runald's band?
captain cancel?
is macrid melee acrid? mad acrid?

[high torrent]

mercenary cancelling is when you use blinding assault and immediately use whirlwind after it

so you not only deal damage with blinding assault in this spot (for example, stone titan butt), but also deal damage with whirlwind nearly at the same time

[quartz saffron]

captain cancel #ror2-game-questions message
melee acrid

[distant spruce]

ah ok ok
the word "canceling" is used because it's bypassing hitpause animation or in-between animation?

[high torrent]

yep

[distant spruce]

well took me two weeks from first asking to finally putting it together but https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_player_terms# here it is

if any lab rats sees this i think the lab server might enjoy adding more words

[quartz saffron]

hm yes, quite informative

[merry karma]

make an account

[shut jewel]

Or force mobile through dev tools

Fandom is aware of the issue

[merry karma]

can i make the grammar consistent?

[shut jewel]

Would split it up in acronyms and terms

[merry karma]

splitting it up into character, item etc. categories might be good too

[distant spruce]

yeaahhh that's good stuff

[distant spruce]

sorry i should've clarified; Fandom is having server/database? issues that's preventing non-editors from viewing pages on web, so you can only look at them if you have an account or you're on mobile (but not iPad)

[upbeat gorge]

I’ve heard there was some kind of teaser? Can anyone catch me up

I don’t see anything, I’ve probably been lied to

[languid yarrow]

They've announced and said literally nothing about the DLC since it was announced

[dusk onyx]

what the heck is this XD

stage5, im already at 6legendarys

got 3 just on this stage, 2from regular chests LOL

[dense basin]

Congrats, you’ve been blessed by rng

[dull ingot]

Wow, that's insane

Gg 😆

[wanton quarry]

Does anyone know how to install the Propersave mod, manually ?

[hybrid vine]

why would you do it manually

just use modman its far more convenient

[wanton quarry]

It is not possible that nobody knows, how to install the Propermod Manualy, search all over the internet, I think this mod was censored..., Everyone always says the same thing, I want to know how install manually...

[dull ingot]

it wasn't censored, people just use r2modman lol

if I had to guess, it would be the same way as any other mod

[tired axle]

I think woolie had a tutorial on how to install mods manually

But like, just use mod man, it's way faster

[wanton quarry]

How do I know that Propermod is working ? Is it 'save game' in the menu, or when I exit, does the game save ?

[tired axle]

Never used it

[dusk onyx]

you have to manually save with it in the esc screen

atleast the last time i used it, that was the case

[wanton quarry]

I think mod doesn't have 1 Tutorial, because when I installed it there was only 'Read me' and nothing inside...

[silent tendon]

It saves at the start of a stage

[wanton quarry]

and When I exit the game, is it saved ? Or has to use some command to load the state/level ?

[silent tendon]

If you exit the game you can load from the character select

[wanton quarry]

This 'esq screen' is the command you use, or has to get a folder manually to save ?

[wanton quarry]

But every time I click on the character the game starts from Zero...

[silent tendon]

Bottom left

*right

Should be a load button

[wanton quarry]

I think mod doesn't have 1 Tutorial, because when I installed it there was only 'Read me' and nothing inside...

[misty flax]

then check the readme

[wanton quarry]

I have Seing There It Doesn't Explain How to Install...

[wanton quarry]

Do you know if you need any other mods for Propersave to work ?

Do you need to install this mod for it to work ?

I thought BeplnEx, was a mod...

[late sphinx]

This game is a lot of fun, I just got it for Switch
I was playing Loader and I 3D Printed like 8 Tougher Times it was great

I remember going to unlock Acrid after doing that it being super easy, which then I got a nice surprise when I went back to that area in another run and realize that my health drains a lot quicker outside of those orb things if I don't have 9 tougher times

[shadow kettle]

vagrant's electric nova attack is bogus

Wack

if anything it should leave you with like 1hp or something not just instakill if you can't find cover in time

[cursive peak]

stone titans do the using the environment idea better

cause even while hiding from the laser the fist attack can still hit you

[slim kraken]

fighting vagrant requires thinking ahead. if I can't find cover when the vagrant reaches 25% health It's usually my fault for not planning ahead.

[reef plover]

oneshot protection

[reef plover]

tanky characters

[slim kraken]

yes

[shadow kettle]

I feel like ive definitely been killed by that attack though? Unless it's implemented as multiple shots somehow

[reef plover]

if you're below 90% health oneshot protection won't protect you

also certain things like shaped glass will remove it

[shadow kettle]

ahh I see, thanks for clarification!

[reef plover]

if it didn't have a health threshold then you'd be completely immortal lmao

[shadow kettle]

True

But it could be a bit lower 🥺

[reef plover]

eh

it's just meant so taht people don't get shot and killed instantly by something behind them and go wtf how was i supposed to know that was there

[shadow kettle]

also i just searched "huntress buff" in this server & im glad I'm not the only one who thinks this should be a thing lol

[reef plover]

arti buff pls

my two favorite charcaters are apparently some of the worst in the game

[shadow kettle]

Which ones?

I just tried acrid for the first time and compared to huntress its kinda epic 🥺

[reef plover]

acrid and arti lol

acrid is my favorite arti is my second favorite

actually maybe bandit is my second favorite idk

i like acrid, artificer, bandit, mul-t, and merc lol

so that's like half the charcaters

[buoyant belfry]

I’d say, everyone is good in their own way, no survivor is bad

[reef plover]

yeah but some are better than others

given that i play some "bad" characters it's pretty obvious that i don't care about the ranking too much

[buoyant belfry]

Enough crowbars will kill anything so I don’t know what you’re talking about

[reef plover]

lol

the only characters i don't like the feel of are loader and engineer

actually i've never played rex

i played him for like 2 minutes

[buoyant belfry]

I love rex

He looks cute

Built in leaching seeds

I remember, I was in an Xbox party, and these kids were complaining that I was using all of art’s secondary’s and they’re all like they’re bad and that “fire balls one shot wisps while plasma doesn’t” and I’m like, have you heard of a crowbar

[mossy kite]

They sound dumb lol

[reef plover]

bruh wtf

arti secondary is soooooo much better than primary

[buoyant belfry]

That’s Xbox ppl for you

[reef plover]

yikes

[buoyant belfry]

I can’t tell you how many people will say (insert ability here) sucks, and haven’t even used it yet

[reef plover]

flamethrower suck

[buoyant belfry]

It’s pointless is you have 20 crowbars so yes