ror2-game-questions

[steady stone]

the only problem rises with compatibility with content mods and multiplayer

mods that just change descriptions will typically work fine online though

[hazy hemlock]

Worth a try, untill i memorize everythin i guess.

[heavy gorge]

Does the game have official mod tools or is the engine just really moddable to begin with?

[steady stone]

it's just Unity

[high forum]

it's just unity

lol

[steady stone]

most indie games get pretty good modding scenes i feel honestly
but this one having no anticheat or anything to work around makes it especially free

[pale bramble]

How many coins do I get by becoming a part of the collective?

[deft ridge]

is mithrix the only boss that works for unlocking desperado?

[primal vector]

Even more than that. The game was specifically designed to make mods as easy as possible. A lot of work went into that

[hoary sedge]

yeah any challenge that says "kill the final boss" means mithrix

[frosty reef]

This is why the "final boss" wording is very bad these days lol. There's 5 different bosses you can kill on monsoon or below to end your run

[jaunty furnace]

https://steamdb.info/sales/history/

8 days until winter sale

[steady stone]

took a bit to test; i gained 5 after accepting

[jaunty furnace]

half the community plays modded

[pale bramble]

Umm... that's not a lot

[terse dagger]

how do i not get instantly murdered by mithrix's spinny fuck-you laser walls

also i swear headstompers did a lot more damage

[steady stone]

for his spin attack, the further you are the harder it will be to dodge, as they move faster relative to you
at the same time, being too close leaves less gaps between them

he cant use it twice in a row though iirc, he swaps between the teleport to the center and pizza

[hoary sedge]

its also a lot easier to dodge if you're on the ground

[jaunty furnace]

you have very little damage items

[steady stone]

which gives you peace of mind for when he cant or cant use it

[jaunty furnace]

you wouldve been better off charging luminous shot then slamming from high up

[lavish jacinth]

that seems like a kinda low amount of items in general

[jaunty furnace]

40 minutes is quite fast yeah

[hoary sedge]

the center slam is the tell for it I think, iirc in phase 3 he always follows it with running towards you and shooting needles, then pizza

[jaunty furnace]

try to full loot

[steady stone]

Yeah, I mean like he literally doesnt have the ability until he slams

The slam and pizza are both his R I believe

[hoary sedge]

that sounds right

[lavish jacinth]

it's also a 30 second cooldown between both, so with practice you kinda get a feel for when it's about to happen

[steady stone]

according to the wiki.gg, you have 8 seconds between slam and pizza, but the slam cooldown might be 30, idk

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah, try to stay close to it and then move along with the lines

[lavish jacinth]

also this

[steady stone]

the amount of drones that die in that gif shows the real dangers of pizza 😔

[lavish jacinth]

true, but dead drones just means you can repair them at the end and then cheese phase 4 with squid turrets

[terse dagger]

so dodge perpendicular to the way its going?

[steady stone]

if you dont have the speed it might be better to cross over by one, to avoid it catching up to you

but generally try to move with it, if possible

if youre at a good range, speed shouldnt be an issue though

[terse dagger]

i see

[lavish jacinth]

usually you can find a comfortable distance where you can circlestrafe and stay between the lines, depending on your move speed

[terse dagger]

the main thing worrying me here is that im being told 40 minutes is FAST for a run

[lavish jacinth]

but what you don't wanna do is run away from it, because avoiding it at a distance might as well be rng

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you never wanna rush stages

[steady stone]

always try to loot every stage to the max, it's more important than speed

try to go fast obviously, but

[lavish jacinth]

the idea is to go for efficiency, not speed

get everything but try not to waste time

[steady stone]

that's a very good way to put it, yeah

[terse dagger]

thats generally what i do, i look in every spot on the map and when i stop finding new chests i hit tele

[steady stone]

with experience youll know the layouts of each map and be able to essentially do a lap

[terse dagger]

i like scorched acres i can loot all of that map in minutes

[steady stone]

look for the TP just as you do it, and remember where it is for after

[lavish jacinth]

don't neglect drones, scrappers or printers either

[lyric forge]

hey does anyone have any solutions for multiplayer for ps5? I checked mine and my friend’s NAT type but we’re good to go there. It ends up not connecting us at all or connecting to lobby but only the host actually gets to play the game.

[severe summit]

are there any secret loaction in this map

[jaunty furnace]

there is a legendary chest around that area

ah wait. sacrifice

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lavish jacinth]

legendary chest is always near those gold trees

[lavish jacinth]

sac doesn't affect guaranteed chests

[severe summit]

i see

[tame owl]

why is this possible? (missiles and drones)

[hoary sedge]

why wouldn't it be

[tame owl]

dude i killed the drone boss before i destroyed any heaters😭

[hoary sedge]

yeah strong runs are cool

[tame owl]

I GOT ANOTHER MISSILE FROM A CHEST😭

[jaunty furnace]

youre usually better off leaving the heaters running and just destroying the coolers

cooks the boss while you just pop in and out of cooling zones to refresh the burn

[tame owl]

litteraly my build

[restive field]

Can plasma shrimp also proc runic lens like the atg?

[lavish jacinth]

it can, but it only has a 0.2 proc coeff and lower total damage than an atg, so it's way less likely

[terse dagger]

when would you ever want singulo band over normal?

[lavish jacinth]

if you're close to the end of a run and don't have normal bands

and that's basically it, singu band is pretty bad lol

[terse dagger]

would mando with nades benefit more from like, the utility of the black hole than just raw damage?

[lavish jacinth]

not really imo, there are other things that can deal with crowds better than singu band

[terse dagger]

aight 👍🏿

[abstract sky]

today i started a rund again after ages and i made rly good money somehow for the first stage but i search the map and i only found like 4 chests and now im out of time, how common or uncommon is this? would be cool to know

[left forge]

Vand is just dogshit. Only take it if you have no other bands

[lavish jacinth]

It's pretty uncommon, but if there were no chests then there would have to be other stuff, like drones or shrines or whatever. But if you were really unlucky then that could all be less useful stuff like blood shrines or some crappy printers

"out of time" is debatable though, the only time limit should be however long it takes you to full-clear the stage

[abstract sky]

think there was 1 healing shrine, 1 challenge shrine 1 blood shrine and a void item couldron. forgot to mention i only got the void dlc

oh and 1 equipment chest

[lavish jacinth]

dlc wouldn't affect the amount of stuff that spawns, other than some maps having more credits than others

which map was this on?

[abstract sky]

the one whit the giant lily pad trees. idk the name

[lavish jacinth]

verdant falls? Assuming it was stage 1

[abstract sky]

yeah that one

[lavish jacinth]

I'd be willing to bet you might've missed some stuff then, falls has the second highest interactable credits of any stage 1 behind siphoned forest, there should be more than 4 chests and a handful of shrines

and it's kinda easy to miss stuff on that map

[abstract sky]

maybe some chests where just well hidden. also didint check the cliff part

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you definitely wanna check thoroughly

always worth it to go for the full-clear even if it feels slow, items are more important than time

[abstract sky]

great i just got nothing from a shrine 7 times in a row, maybe its just my luck that didint want me to find them

[abstract sky]

is 35 minutes ariving on stage 4 bad? im starting to struggle

[lavish jacinth]

it's on the slower side but it's fine as long as you've been getting enough items

[spiral rampart]

Depends on how much time you spent minmaxing your run

[abstract sky]

much of the time was spend farming money and collecting stuff as much as i could

[spiral rampart]

That’s good

What stages have you gotten/ what survivor are u?

[abstract sky]

i remember these spiky ball things 2 shoting me alot. thank god for the currepted tedies

artificor

[lavish jacinth]

A good rule of thumb is to try to get around one item per minute

[spiral rampart]

Yeah

Artificer can take a little longer on super big flat stages sometimes especially early on

[lavish jacinth]

but it's also fine to spend time on stuff like printers and scrappers, as long as you're spending time on things that'll hopefully make you stronger

[abstract sky]

i scraped a squid turret for shurikens haha

[spiral rampart]

Turn all of your greens into shurikens, trust

[lavish jacinth]

shuriken printers are amazing, it stacks incredibly well

[abstract sky]

i dont even get to open chests anymore whit all these miniboses

oh nvm it finaly calmed down

way too many boses and not enough sustain damage. that beam thing alwas never died and i was not fast enough dance around it

but this looked decent

[simple coyote]

with the weird jank of the ceiling of mithrix’ arena, does it cap headset to the ceiling’s height or does it somehow store the height you would’ve had

[heavy gorge]

Could someone theoretically use Metamorphosis to get achievements for different characters in one run?

Like if the artifact makes me commando for the Solus Heart and then makes me huntress for False Son, do I get the Commando: Purge and Huntress: Cleared Prime Meridian achievements?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[heavy gorge]

That sounds like a funny YouTube video concept

[bright vessel]

Hey guys, me and my friend are having issues trying to play multiplayer together. We can invite eachother to a lobby, but then whenever one of us starts the game (and transitions themselves into the survivor selection screen), the other is just left behind. After a while, it kicks them out of the lobby and puts them in their own. We have tried many basic things including restarting the game and nothing is working. Has anyone else had this issue?

[livid wedge]

@lavish jacinth oh hey, you can see what the admin commands for the drones do in the inspect menu

[lavish jacinth]

neat

[livid wedge]

Only the next three but you can at least cycle through

[loud burrow]

Hey
Don't really talk much in here
but I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share what people think are the conventionally good loadouts for all DLC characters
I have a good idea, but am less confident on certain characters

Oh, and MUL-T
no idea what's good on him

[shadow junco]

Trying to unlock the void fiend on simulacrum does the difficulty i choose matter and can i bring an artifact of command?

[mellow crystal]

is 1112 (default + cryocharge)
is
is any loadout with laser burst
is 1212 or 1122
is 1211 or 1221
is anything with default special
is any m2 + repossess and tinker but salvage is good too

Take "any m2" on drifter with a grain of salt because cube used to be better than cleanup but was nerfed yesterday

[wanton hamlet]

yeah you just need to beat voidling thats all play the game how you want

[mellow crystal]

Powermode double nail
Powermode saw + nail (saw primary nail secondary)

I also wanna say retool + rebar + scrap but I still need to test it more

Double rebar retool is also up there but it falls off harder than the nail ones

[wanton hamlet]

retool + rebar is a classic but you will get carpal tunnel

[heavy gorge]

That void fiend suggestion is pretty weird. Do you really think Drown is better than Drown? I’ve never had good results from it.

[wanton hamlet]

if you dont install mods like QoLstuff i think it was called that lets u auto-rebar

[mellow crystal]

Drown is pretty good damage overall, especially in corrupted, but drown's damage is comparable while also having better proc in corrupted, so while it feels worse it gets a lot better a lot easier

[heavy gorge]

I see.

At least we can agree that Trespass is way better than Trespass. What was Hopoo even thinking?

[crimson echo]

is there a bug with beetle guards

i keep getting this bug that is the beetleguard spike smash object that infinitely repeats itself and lags my game

[atomic lintel]

is anyone having issues with multiplayer?

[zenith lichen]

when i copy lobby codes and press join clipboard lobby it never takes me to a lobby am i doing something wrong?

[teal fern]

Funny you say that, someone did an all achievement run challenge on YouTube (not woolie)

By doing metamorphosis

Recommend the vid, it’s pretty awesome

[restive field]

Is my rng just shitting on me, or does the shrine for AC not spawn after the first go around?

[lavish jacinth]

it's guaranteed on stage 3 maps, but stops spawning if you've been there once already. If you have, the only way to get another portal is by killing alloy worship unity or false son

[restive field]

Good to know, been looping waiting for another. Had gesture and lightning and it blasted the big solus orb where the chef is.... locked me out.

[lavish jacinth]

make sure you have the same crossplay setting as the lobby you're trying to join (if everyone is on steam then it should be off, ideally)

[rough zealot]

What loadout do I want to use on mercenary

Asking so I can decide if I want to torture myself for that alternate R

[jaunty furnace]

https://youtube.com/@cabbage123

this guy covers every seed

wait for one that looks easy and do it

[midnight crescent]

Can i still get Mastery and other Character Achievements if i select the character and then become heretic?

[molten pebble]

i dont think so? because heretic is basically a different character but never really tried it so not sure

[visual anchor]

No u cannot

Because I assume heretic is basically a free won

win*

[rough zealot]

Actual goldmine dude thanks

[midnight crescent]

i only wondered cuz i know it does work in Eclipse

[mighty mist]

does 3 purity’s on drifter seem to much

I feel like being able to spam cleanup could prove extremely valuable

[jaunty furnace]

-3 luck.......

[kindred herald]

1 purity seems like too much

what the hell drifter doing with purity

[rustic bear]

How much luck does ultimate meal give

Is it better than two 57s on its own

[jaunty furnace]

2

use the logbook or the inspection feature to see detailed stats of things

[sullen rune]

How many Gesture of the drowned does one need in order to have an infinate parry window?

[sullen rune]

25-26

[wispy shore]

bit of a specific question but does the max corpses setting in graphics matter for the cleanup drone

[snow willow]

does shaped glass make the fuel array explode on next hit?

[wary crane]

uh i am trying to get false son can anyone tell me all ways to find an gold portal for seed?

also can i get it in easy mode?

[snow willow]

yes and the best bet is the newt shop, im rn on easy mode and got it on my 1st stage

the gold portal

[wary crane]

hm i heard youa can also get portal if you activate the gree portal pillar inside a green portal place

[snow willow]

i tried doing that a lot, prb used it like 20 times or more, only got lucky for it 1 time

[wary crane]

i will prob try both ways at same time i think you can get gold statue thingy thats rare and blue portal inside green portals?

also i need to kill the false son in that run that i get seed right?

[snow willow]

i was using the clensing pools and got a heresy item??

i dont understand

btw, i cleansed all the items, got 6 normal and 2 better pearls

[grave solar]

if we kill voidling on monsoon and my friend doesnt have dlc does he still get the monsoon skin or can he only get it on mithrix?

[lavish jacinth]

Im pretty sure it'll work, mastery skins just require winning a run on monsoon, it doesn't matter how

[lavish jacinth]

It'll explode at half of your new hp after glass

The missing part of your healthbar isn't treated like damage, it's just visual to show how much health you lost

[snow willow]

yeah thx

[lavish jacinth]

It shouldn't, afaik they only affect enemies immediately after they die and won't do anything to existing corpses

[wispy shore]

ah that makes sense, tysm~

[snow willow]

attack speed afects how long it takes to charge the punch of Loader?

[south egret]

is chance doll affected by luck?

[lavish jacinth]

Wiki doesn't say if it is, would have to test

[south egret]

yeah, I noticed that too

[lavish jacinth]

But if it is, it would probably only affect the chance for it to proc, not its item pool

[south egret]

oh, good point. That would make sense

[primal vector]

Luck can only affect binary outcomes

[glacial knoll]

wiki says

[lavish jacinth]

Oh, it's not mentioned on the chance doll page lol

[ruby knot]

is the drifter's infinite temporary item gimmick patched?

[primal vector]

Infinite when? On the ground? That is a feature

[lusty ridge]

is it normal for halcyon shrines to just not spawn? I looped 15 stages as captain for the false son achievement and I did not see a single halcyon shrine the entire run

I had sots content enabled so that can't be the problem

[glacial knoll]

if you have 2 dlcs it's like a 90-99% chance on stages 1s with 3dlcs base game stages drop to like 58% chance

but with 3 stage 1s in a run that's quite unlucky

[lusty ridge]

yeah i was gonna say, I thought the game was bugged

was it really just awful luck the entire time

[glacial knoll]

You can always go to the path of the colussos from the bazaar

*if you haven't already done that that run

[lusty ridge]

wait what

you can get green stages from the stage pools in the bazaar?

[glacial knoll]

well both from the seers but also just a guaranteed secret

[lusty ridge]

I can't believe i could have just done that the entire time lmao

[glacial knoll]

it is a secret so easy to not know about it

[primal vector]

It tells you in the chat when you go to the bazzar and it is possible to spawn the green portal. It says "You hear thunder rumbling."

[ruby knot]

does genesis loop + transcendence work?

[livid wedge]

Yes

Items that trigger below 25% health will trigger if the current combined health/shields is below 25% of the total combined health/shields total

Which means power elixir is worthless with transcendance

[mighty mist]

is hellfire tincture best on drifter cause of regen

i’ve never had an easier time living with tincture as when i’m drifter

[ruby knot]

so i pair with faulty conductor and laser scope. i think it's broken imo

[livid wedge]

I mean, not really unless you're good at surviving getting put to less than 25% shields with no way of recovering it except waiting at least 7 seconds without taking damage

I feel like if something is gonna manage to put you that low before you're able to dodge enough to recover it back, you'd probably also die to whatever it was that dealt that damage

[ruby knot]

there's no way to manage to be invincible or tanky in 1hp with shields, huh?

[livid wedge]

I mean, you'd have to have great timing

At that point, having regular health instead of shields would help in surviving after getting that low

Not impossible, just not super feasible

[lavish jacinth]

if you really want to build around genloop then you're probably better off not having transc so you can heal quickly after falling to low health

[livid wedge]

Exactly

[lavish jacinth]

but I wouldn't really recommend playing around genloop in the first place unless you're engineer

[livid wedge]

With transcandence, the only real way to "heal" is with barrier

My hope is that one day genloop is put at the top of the priority list or just flat guaranteed to trigger at low in addition to whatever else can and has priority

-# and that kinetic dampener gets AIBlackListed

[lavish jacinth]

iirc it's above elixir at least, but below transmitter

[primal vector]

Yes, I have made feedback about this. Since sots gloop and ows have become waaaay worse

[livid wedge]

Uhh, last I saw it it was not but I haven't checked in a while so why not

Time for science!

[primal vector]

check ows as weel if you can, please

[lavish jacinth]

tbf I haven't checked in a while either lol
definitely not since AC

-# just revert stealthkit to pre-anni please gearbox

[livid wedge]

I'm not doing anything atm and I'm off of work today so I'll test it in a hot second

[trim lynx]

old_pleading~2

[primal vector]

An easy solution is to make them secretly trigger at 26% HP

[livid wedge]

Or like, maybe instead of a proc chance, it triggers if any damage instance does more than like 25% of your health (or some other arbitrary %)

I'd rather have that than a chance or only at low health

[lavish jacinth]

at least the chance was based on the amount of damage you took

even if they fix the priority so it actually works, the effect just... isn't that good, for a low health item

[livid wedge]

I know but I don't like the idea of the item that's supposed to save me possibly do nothing

[livid wedge]

Or more realistically, considering small multihits things that can total to a lot at once, taking X% total health damage over a very small interval

Which is how OSP should work

[lavish jacinth]

if they're gonna keep the low health version, at least make it so stacking increases the cloak duration like it used to, reducing the cooldown is worthless and increased duration gave it synergy with out of danger items

[lavish jacinth]

shhh, we don't need to encourage OSP abuse to be a thing again

[primal vector]

Yes, this item was destined to work wonders with transmitter

[livid wedge]

Could give it a cooldown then. In any event, I've never really felt like OSP was needed

Now that we have oddly shaped opal, safer spaces, unstable transmitter, and **cough cough** wecho

None of those are base game, though

[primal vector]

they nerfed wecho

(and buffed it by fixing bugs)

[livid wedge]

Did they actually fix wecho with that last update?

I only skimmed the notes

[lavish jacinth]

it wasn't in the patch notes iirc

[primal vector]

There is a list of secret fixes

#ror-wiki-discussion message

[livid wedge]

I never stopped picking up wecho but I was definitely more cautious once I realized it's old bugs

[lavish jacinth]

huh, neat
so what did they actually change about it?

[primal vector]

Yeah, I was looking for a comprehensive list, youll have to read from here on wolfo's messages #theorycrafting message

The nerf is 20% damage reduction -> 10%

[lavish jacinth]

oh

seems kinda unnecessary but at least it works lol

[primal vector]

nah, it was the second best defensive item before and now it works better with other defensive items

[narrow pine]

can multiple shrines of shaping spawn

nvm i cant read apparently

[teal fern]

Any tips for beating higher eclipse levels with chef? I keep failing, even if I try not to take risks, which is how I usually die

I do a ton of damage, but I always end up lacking either healing, defense or speed

[brittle wedge]

my best buddy just pushed me into mithrix and killed me

[heavy stag]

Which items should i use for coid fiend

Is his corrupt or normal form better because some people are telling me to try get into it as fast as possible some telling me never to go in that form and some telling me to manage it so i can always go into void form only when i need it

[lavish jacinth]

viend is a pretty good all-rounder but he does lean towards proc items, crit chance is also especially useful since he gains 2% corruption every time he crits.

The main thing to avoid are %-based healing items that you can't easily control like medkit or wungus, since it'll screw with his corruption meter and he already has a really powerful heal in his uncorrupt form (slug and scythe are good though, regen doesn't affect corruption and scythe's flat heal won't usually negate the corruption gained from a crit as long as you don't stack a bunch of them)

[heavy stag]

This is by far the most important wuestion i have i think why does everyone mention proc chance apparently void fiend is good cause he has a proc of 3 but what does that mean

[lavish jacinth]

both forms are good at different things, uncorrupt form has good survivability but corrupt is way better for damage. Early on you wanna balance it so you can go corrupt or heal when needed, but later on you can usually stay corrupt full-time without any issues

[lavish jacinth]

... I have no idea what they're referring to with "proc of 3", lol
but in general they're probably referring to proc coefficient, which is just a hidden multiplier for proc chance that all sources of damage have. An attack having a coeff of 1.0 means an item will have the same proc chance that's listed on the items stats, but a coeff of 0.5 means the proc chance would be halved, for example

void fiend's corrupt beam has a proc coeff of 0.625 (effectively about 5 procs per second at base attack speed, which is decent) and all his other skills are 1.0

[heavy stag]

So proc coefficient 3 on void fiends means tri tip daggers would be 30 percent chance am i getting that right

[lavish jacinth]

he doesn't have a proc of 3

are you thinking of railgunner? because her default special has a coeff of 3.0

[heavy stag]

Oh was he nerfed then?

[lavish jacinth]

no, he never did lol

[heavy stag]

I have no idea i just started a few days ago

[lavish jacinth]

it's fine

you probably either misheard, or somebody else was just wrong

[heavy stag]

But was i right a proc coefficient of 3 essentially makes a 10 percent chance become 30?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[heavy stag]

Does that mean i need 20 glasses on some characters for my moves to always crit???

I dont think i like that hidden stat

[lavish jacinth]

crit chance actually isn't affected by coeff since it's a character stat, but for something like tritips you would need more, yeah

[lavish jacinth]

it's not really a big deal, it's mostly just to balance things that have a really high fire rate

[heavy stag]

I see

[lavish jacinth]

it's a hidden stat for a reason, it's only really important if you wanna get deep into the math of optimizing damage

[heavy stag]

Last question what items should i be using for void fiends and is he better or worse than loader and artificer

[jaunty furnace]

do you mean or

[lavish jacinth]

^ items explained here

[heavy stag]

Void fiend

[lavish jacinth]

"better or worse" is super hard to quantify though

[jaunty furnace]

because railgunner's supercharge does have a proc coef of 3.0, but void fiend just has 1.0 everywhere afaik

[heavy stag]

Why are we talking about railgunner..

[lavish jacinth]

like, he's probably close to equal to loader and a bit better than arti, but every character is viable so it's just up to who you like more

[heavy stag]

How so?

[jaunty furnace]

because you said "proc of 3"
just making sure

[lavish jacinth]

she's the only character in the game that has a 3.0 proc coefficient on anything

[heavy stag]

Oh ignore that it was my lack of knowledge

Railgunner is a she!?

[lavish jacinth]

corrupt beam is 0.625 but yeah

[heavy stag]

Let me ask this instead who has the better dps

Loader artificer or void fiends

Also the last question was what items should I get on void fiend

If you dont know any of my questions or its annoying you its fine

[lavish jacinth]

viend probably has the most consistently high dps in his corrupt form, but it's pretty close I think

Loader's actual dps is damn near impossible to calculate because of how her skills work, her charged punch does more damage the faster she's moving

Arti and Loader also have a lot of AoE/pierce so they might perform better against groups

[heavy stag]

IT DOES! Bro loader is busted!! I already thought the damage was insane

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's what the "heavy" modifier on her charged punch means

[crisp timber]

In terms of spreadsheet dps, just corrupted viend by a pretty comfortable margin

[lavish jacinth]

protip, if you go to the "skills" tab on the character select (not loadout), you can see more detailed skill descriptions than you get on the loadout tab

[crisp timber]

But that fails to account for serviceability, ease of use, aoe, etc

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[heavy stag]

Okay so im gonna start tryna main loader and void fiends then artificer was fun for the first 2 days but she feels waaaaaaaaay too squishy

[lavish jacinth]

Arti is fun but hard to play, yea

[heavy stag]

So what items do i want on void fiends and is also i just realised our pfp kinda matches haha

[lavish jacinth]

Void fiend items ^^^

when in doubt, total damage procs and damage multipliers tend to be good on literally everyone

[heavy stag]

I read that but as i said im new the only proc item i know is tri tip daggers would be the void version and the white gasoline thing

[lavish jacinth]

"proc" usually refers to any on-hit effect

so like for example

[heavy stag]

Ooooooooh

I thought proc were only like damage over time effects

Thank you good sir you have open my eyes to many new methods to mutilate my enemies with your assistants was splendid

[lavish jacinth]

np

[marble magnet]

Is there anyway to know what the sale star item was and what the chest item was?

[glacial knoll]

For Delusion? Irrelevant it's whatever is last picked up iirc

Else, basically no

[misty kettle]

||can you use trophy hunter on alloy hunter?||

[snow spire]

Can you do eclipse multiplayer

[serene hollow]

i heard that ignition tank is bad on artificer, is that true?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, when you create a lobby it should give you an option to change the gamemode

[lavish jacinth]

it's great on her if you're using either flame skill

[serene hollow]

thats what i thought cuz i read it deals quadruple fire damage

and her main attack is fireballs

[lavish jacinth]

yeah idk how that would be bad lol

it doesn't increase the damage of the attack itself, only the burn DoT, but it's still a ton of free damage

[serene hollow]

aight so thats why i completed my first moment whole just now

its good to know that even if i asked a troll question, someone still helped!
been playin the game for a year and just started playing artificer lol

[snow willow]

The read item that lets u slam down is called "Headset" and not "Headstomper"? A lot of people on yt call it a Headset

[serene hollow]

tbh idk where headstompers comes from
maybe cuz headset is misleading

[lavish jacinth]

people call it headstompers because it's the spiritual successor to bootstompers from the first game

[hoary sedge]

which is also most likely what the name is referencing considering the v2 on the end

[lavish jacinth]

and because y'know, you use it to stomp on heads

[snow willow]

Makes more sense that it would stomp heads and not be just a Headset

[snow spire]

Can I unlock rex on any stage 4 or only the specific one

[lavish jacinth]

only abyssal depths

[serene hollow]

can this be called a 114 leaf clover

[lavish jacinth]

no, but who's going to stop you

[serene hollow]

no one cuz luck is on my side

[viral sedge]

Could someone tell me what the second last monster in the logbook (||between solus wing and overloading worm||) is?

[lavish jacinth]

iirc it's ||solus heart||, there's a bug where it always appears locked until you actually get the logbook

[viral sedge]

Ahhh I see

I have been wondering for a while who it could possibly be haha

Thank you!

[smoky panther]

ok is there a known bug where a transport drone brings an enemy high up into the air and it makes 10 billion particles which causes your game to lag

because that's whats happening to me right now LOL

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's been reported a bunch already

[primal vector]

People dont confirm whether something has been reported already before posting their thing

[viral sedge]

Do you happen to know where I can find its logbook?

[lavish jacinth]

it should just drop when you kill it

[viral sedge]

Nah it doesn't anymore

They patched that out

[lavish jacinth]

that was for wing, not heart

[viral sedge]

Ohhh yeah

That's the one I'm looking for actually

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, idk where that one is now

[primal vector]

In one of the rooms. I cannot remember if the one with the cubes or the one with the tc

[viral sedge]

I've been walking around for a while but can't spot it :(

[primal vector]

The cube one

[dusky raven]

Its in the ||Prison Matrix|| room

[primal vector]

Under the entrance, more or less

[dusky raven]

||Underneath the enterance||

[simple coyote]

am I using tornado slam wrong or is the ricochet supposed to get in the way

like the ricochet just prevents me from wailing on a boss, or is it genuinely supposed to do that and you just use it when there’s two (2) big enemies

[viral sedge]

And for solus heart you get it by just beating and rejecting?

[vital timber]

What void items are good on void fiend

[dusky raven]

Has anyone else stumbled onto a Bombardment drone thats super cheap on Siren's Call?

I found one for $184

much cheaper than the $500 missile drone also on the stage

[granite siren]

The normal ones you want to pick up, more or less

[lavish jacinth]

*except wungus

[torpid root]

Does anyone know which dlc is the best with the best survivors

[hoary sedge]

most fun or strongest

bc imo its ac and sots, respectively

[proud crescent]

What was the reason for an almost gig big update

[lavish jacinth]

bugfixes mostly

patch notes in #announcements

[pearl vector]

Hey there. I just bought the new expansion and everytime that I create a new game it crashes my PC and I have to pull off the power cord in order to make it work again. Are there any known issues and how to fix it on discord?

[vital dirge]

has anyone ever encountered a glitch where mythrix gets stuck at 1 hp taking 999m dmg mulitple times a second ?

[jaunty furnace]

the update size doesnt necessarily mean you just lost another full gig

its the amount of stuff that got replaced

[jaunty furnace]

thats subjective

if you dont have any dlc id just recommend getting sotv first since it has quite alot of content which is also mostly integrated into the normal gameplay loop (no alternate path or whatever)

[smoky panther]

quick question, if you get vanished (decide not to/fail to activate the ship in time before the moon goes bye bye) does the game still count that as a "win" and you get lunar coins?

[smoky panther]

this is what makes me not like the sots dlc as much, they just... integrated the dlc path in the most intrusive and clunky way possible in normal gameplay

seriously if they just made the halcyon shrine show up in stage 2 i wouldn't even have a problem with it

but it's just so out of place in a stage 1 setting

[jaunty furnace]

guh

how is it intrusive

[jaunty furnace]

i like my 3 bonus stage 1 items

[molten pebble]

what does you hear thunder rolling in the bazaar mean?

[smoky panther]

when a player looks at a stage 1 for the first time, they grab their bearings and see the surroundings that they're in to essentially understand the "visuals" of the game, and honestly the halcyon shrine just.. sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the shrines, the chests, and the printers
it looks way too "modern" and new to exist there imo

not even to mention, a new player getting to a final boss on stage FOUR is insane, i don't know why that's a thing

it's way too visually different and way too lore heavy to exist there

[jaunty furnace]

3 golden geodes are hidden around
breaking them spawns a green portal

[smoky panther]

idk am I making sense? or is this a bad take

like for example, altars of gold don't spawn on stage 1

that's impossible

the game should establish the basic rules and visuals first before moving on to anything more complex

the halcyon shrine is just too modern and slightly complex to exist there

especially considering, again, it leads to a completely new seperate path to a final boss in 3 stages

it's just intrusive and clunky

[scenic orbit]

This is why you should play the game a bit before playing with the dlcs

There’s no reason for the dlcs to not add stuff to the earlier stages, it gives way more replay value for people who already play the game

And if you’re a new player just disable the dlcs until youre used to the games mechanics

[autumn mural]

What the fuck?
https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/lGTs74f3NbWSk0PeH?invite=cr-MSxXMU4sMjA4ODgyMzA0&v=6

ignore distractible

[glacial knoll]

immovable object vs unstoppable force

[twin cedar]

Is it at all possible to completely negate the seekers self damage from the ability that self damages sorry I'm spacing out on the name

[hardy fulcrum]

If I play as MUL T then switch to heretic, can I still get the MUL T achievements?

[glacial knoll]

no

[hardy fulcrum]

💔

[serene hollow]

can i have one convo with a loader main without em calling her “mommy loader”

[twin cedar]

No

Cause early I almost said that

Earlier*

[serene hollow]

😭

[jaunty furnace]

transcendence makes it deal like 1hp

yet again completely obliterating the fucking game

[wicked briar]

Do Engi turrets get their own target count on Network Suffering?

[gray epoch]

Does Pocket ICBM affect plasma shrimp?

[nimble night]

Yes

[gray epoch]

Thanks!

[serene hollow]

how do i convince my friend that ror2 is a good game (theyre addicted to dbd)

[cloud path]

have you tried showing him the ost

But if he's addicted to dbd he might be a lost cause

[hearty ivy]

Dbd 🙁

[vital timber]

Quit and got this screen when I re-enetred my data’s there but now music ain’t playing

[lavish jacinth]

if you go into ror2's game files and go to risk of rain 2 data > config > config.cfg, look for intro_skip and splash_skip, and set them both to 0, and don't forget the semicolon at the end.

There's also a second config file where your saves are located (C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam\userdata[Number]\632360\remote\UserProfiles), you might have to change that one too if the first one doesn't work

[tropic halo]

Anyone who wants a recipe list for the alloyed collective, I'm currently making one.
this is what I have so far:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V1d3iWWTlYYFA9FLgdFZrE6I0s8TXg9LKry__WmLvI8/edit?usp=sharing

All That are on there and will be on there are tested

[mental arch]

Would anyone happen to know if Captain's Hacking Beacon works on the Vending Machine summoned by Remote Caffeinator and if Pocket ICBM works with Fireworks?

It's a silly build idea, but I thought it would be funny for multi player especially lol

[lyric silo]

pocket icbm works with an missiles from your character so yes icbm works with fireworks

dunno abt hacking beacon tho

[mental arch]

Alrighty. Time for science when I get home then. Thanks!

[silver vessel]

I saw some runs of Drifter where putting the cube in her sac allowed you to generate junk, did that get removed? Its not happening for me

[tropic elm]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/jFB9qDvaYF just
normal game play

[steady stone]

The recent update made junk cube stop spawning scrap, somewhere in the patch notes

[high forum]

yes, it was just patched out in the latest update

[silver vessel]

dang

[tropic halo]

does anyone know all the item that break (like the delicate watch)

[high forum]

watch, elixir

dio's

[steady stone]

watch, transmitter, elixir; dios and void dios can be consumed but don't "break", Regen scrap

[tropic halo]

ok thanks

[steady stone]

Might be missing one or two that I cant think of

[high forum]

transmitter gets refreshed once per stage like sale star though, doesn't it?

[steady stone]

Yeah

[tropic halo]

also just for confermation. no void item except for the key are used in crafting right?

[steady stone]

Did a quick scroll through of the list of recipes, seems like it

[lavish jacinth]

I think I remember some void items being usable as a substitute for their normal version, not 100% sure of that tho

afaik there aren't any that specifically require void items

[steady stone]

Oh if this was for the chef crafting, it's just elixir watch dios seed and tricorn

[tropic halo]

ok thanks

[lyric silo]

aw

[tropic halo]

what list do you use?

[glacial knoll]

wiki got a list

[wanton ingot]

Can I get character unlocks if I become heretic in that run?

[floral ridge]

Probably not alternatives if you become heretic as you actually become a different survivor, but the unlocks to actually get characters yeah

[livid wedge]

Why is Kinetic Dampener in the Healing category if neither the other items that provide shield or armor alone are not in the Healing category?

[wanton ingot]

Even if it makes less sense, IMO it's better that way

healing chests need better loot pools

[glacial knoll]

it'd make more sense if all shield was healing tbh

[jaunty furnace]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BqWDP5UmHToEONVNISeGoW8PM8cr5P2ioYLdnjt37Rk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[molten pebble]

if shields arent classified as healing then what are they classified as? utility?

[jaunty furnace]

you mean like. for category chests?

[molten pebble]

yeah

[jaunty furnace]

huh. interesting

wouldve liked for it to be in healing tbh

[barren lichen]

but i mean it makes sense no? it isn’t biologically tied to ur health but it is pretty much more health..

[marble magnet]

What's the official terminology for items ?

Is it commons
Uncommons
Legendarys?

Or is it white
Green
Red
Yellow

[high forum]

white/green/red/yellow

common/uncommon/rare/boss

[jaunty furnace]

isnt it legendary?

[high forum]

i've never thought of red or yellow as 'legendary'. that's just not the terminology of the game for me lol

[barren lichen]

it is cemented as legendary in my head but i never called it that before

[high forum]

iirc the only time "legendary" is actually used in the game is to refer to the golden chests

[barren lichen]

and the item that pops out happens to be a red

[high forum]

yes, but a red can also come from a large chest and a small chest

[jaunty furnace]

what is the red item chest called

theres no way its called rare chest

[high forum]

literally right here lol

[barren lichen]

i mean those aren’t guaranteed, they are still called chests, not common or uncommon chests js chests

[high forum]

that logic just doesn't hold water for me, sorry!

[lavish jacinth]

I love getting large-tier items

[barren lichen]

i mean it’s not like it matters that much

[visual anchor]

Did they buff alloyed heart too?

[visual anchor]

Yes sir that's what I like to see

I got loader skin first try and they knew they needed the buff

But loader is also pretty good

[lavish jacinth]

Solus heart was definitely really squishy yeah

[molten pebble]

can deus ex machina proc crit even with just 1 crit glass?

arent crits rolled differently than proc

[lavish jacinth]

It can proc them even with 0, you always have 1% crit chance unless you're railgunner

[molten pebble]

i see, very helpful equipment

[glacial knoll]

deux ex machina does not guarantee crit

[lavish jacinth]

Doesn't it? I swear it did

This is what I get for slacking on testing stuff

[naive terrace]

what are the two to the left of overloading worm on the monster log? 3rd stage node boss and the new shop keep?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, The locked one is solus heart, there's a bug where it always appears locked until you actually get the logbook

[snow spire]

This could be me just not exploring enough but does alloyed collective have an actual final boss aside from the whole subroute place to get to the item combiner?

[lavish jacinth]

If you combine the cerebellum with the right item and give it to spex, yes

[visual anchor]

Is it any yellow or is it specific yellows?

That you combine the cerebellum with

I've always just used the leftover shards I get and it works

Or keys whatever they're called

[foggy vessel]

combine cerebellum with any key

encrusted key, rusted key, sentry key
or alloy items like prison matrix, empathy core and iirc orphaned core counts too (could be wrong)

[lavish jacinth]

Yep

[boreal hearth]

for some reason i sometimes get multiple temp copies of defensive microbots from junk drones(i think from them) when playing captain, like sometimes they just drop 4 coppies of it why does that happen lol

i have screenshots but don't got permissions here

[primal vector]

When they steal an item they start sharing it with other enemies and making temporary copies. Probably they steal the microbots from your drones

[lavish jacinth]

And it's solus prospectors that do that iirc, not junk drones

[primal vector]

oh, yeah, forgot that part, sorry

[livid wedge]

The chests go from Chest, Large Chest, Legendary Chest

[hidden solstice]

If I have 9 lens maker glasses and 2 predatory insticts, does that give me a 100% chance or 95% chance of critting?

[lavish jacinth]

96%

The crit chance on predatory doesn't stack but all survivors have 1% base crit chance

[hidden solstice]

oke, thank you

[raw maple]

Im sure this is asked a lot, but are there any plans to ||add heretic to the character select menu||?

[primal vector]

I would not count on that

If you play on PC surely there is a mod that does it

[left forge]

No. Mod it in

[near briar]

are there any tips for the last phase of the alloy hunter where it sits and uses its laser while things fall from the sky?

theres not much time between when its firing its laser and when it stops

[low trail]

i usually just run behind the big thing to the right of you when youre on the tp if he starts that

[steady meteor]

do prestige mountain shrines take credits to spawn

[pastel epoch]

what's the current ally limit because online i see conflicting numbers

sometimes 12, someitmes 15, sometimes 20? which is it rn?

[lavish jacinth]

it's 20 but includes players, so effectively 19 in singleplayer

drones and engineer turrets also count towards it despite not being capped by it

I think the weird rules for it are why people report so many different numbers, but an easy way to confirm it is to just give yourself a bunch of queens glands in debugtoolkit until they stop spawning

[pastel epoch]

also for heart, where does the logbook spawn? where i defeat the boss or when i reject the offer? also does it not drop when in eclipse?

i've killed it a few times with clovers and haven't seen it yet

[cobalt quiver]

for me it dropped where i defeated it (where it hovered during the battle)

[marsh topaz]

For mercenary alt skill can you get hit if you have shields?

In the pris trial*

[marsh peak]

whats happening i need help :{
the game suddenly dropped to like 1/4 fps. nothing else is open. my ram is fine. it was running smoothly and has ran stage 20+ runs with no issue, its stage 3 rn
everything else on my computer is extremely smooth

[lavish jacinth]

there's a bug with transport drones on operator atm where if they try to grab certain enemies with his m2, it spawns a billion particles for some reason and lags the hell out of the game
I can't really tell from the footage but that might be what's happening

[lavish jacinth]

damage to shields will fail the challenge, but barrier won't

[marsh peak]

Shuuuucks. Is there anything I can do?? Yes I have a transport drone

[marsh peak]

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think so, maybe it would stop if you could somehow get to the next stage but good luck doing that at 0.5 fps and without the game crashing

[marsh peak]

Ty

quit out
THIS RUN WAS GOING SO WELL TOO

[frail garden]

Does anyone know if the environment scanners can actually spawn on the post loop variants or am i just super unlucky

[dusky raven]

All environment scanners work and spawn in night variant correctly

[rugged barn]

Would transport drones count for gesture of the drowned unlock?

[dusky raven]

Hmm

That’s a good question

I sure hope so, then the achievement won’t be 110% ass to complete

[lavish jacinth]

I feel like it probably wouldn't since I think the damage is attributed to the drone, but that would be worth testing at some point

[torpid root]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to get to the final alloyed collective boss on stage 40+ because I just collected all items, (empathy cores and the item dropped from the solus wing)

[lavish jacinth]

I don't see why it wouldn't be

good luck not accidentally killing spex though

[main mist]

no it definitely was a feature. I played like 200 hours before I started using mods back in sotv and beforehand, I would remember correctly

[slender patio]

hello, i have an inquiry

its abt damage mechanics

ror2 mainly deals damage using a percentage measure

i already know about multiplicative damage percentage with differing damage items, and additive damage with stacked items

but on the whole, how is damage calculated using percentage?

[lavish jacinth]

most damage sources use base damage, which is just a percentage of the base damage stat for a character (for most survivors it's 12 +2.4 per level)

[slender patio]

oh so u have a base damage inherent to the character and their level, and u multiply it by ur damage multiplier received from all your current items

[lavish jacinth]

there's also 'total damage' which is exclusively used by on-hit procs, and is a percentage of the hit that procced it.
Specifically it's based on the amount of damage dealt before accounting for multipliers like watch or crowbar or whatever, and those multipliers are then checked and calculated again for the proc once it actually deals damage, to prevent it from double dipping on the same multiplier (except lunar ruin which double dips for some reason, technically a bug but they never fixed it so ig it's a thing now)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[sweet smelt]

is it normal that you dont get a skin for being a drone

[slender patio]

huh

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's a known bug(?)

[slender patio]

it sounds like the opposite of what it describes lmfao

[lavish jacinth]

yeah it's a slightly confusing term but idk what else you'd call it lol

[slender patio]

inherent damage, idk lol

but yeah TvT

[lavish jacinth]

afaik the order of operations is basically base damage -> skill/item damage% -> inherent multipliers (like falloff) -> roll procs and calculate their damage -> check for multipliers and apply them

and procs will use that same formula, they just treat the attack that procced them as their base damage

[covert bloom]

Guys what dlc should I buy as a beginner

[lavish jacinth]

survivors of the void imo

[dusky raven]

probably the first one, its adds the most to the base game experience

like its not locked behind an alt path

[covert bloom]

Surviver of the void ? Is the surviver good tho?

[dusky raven]

all DLC survivors are good

[wanton hamlet]

the free one is top 5

[dusky raven]

fun is a different question but people tend to love Railgunner, me included

[wanton hamlet]

only if you like shooters ngl

[bleak dew]

for prayer beads, it says "upon removal grants bonus stats" is removal the removal of xp like when you press the teleporter or removal of the item

[covert bloom]

Is seeker good ?

[dusky raven]

(Operator the goat tho)

[lavish jacinth]

removal of the item

[bleak dew]

ty

[wanton hamlet]

2nd best but you should worry if its fun to play for u

[dusky raven]

removal of the prayer beads from scrapping or printing

also Fax, is it heard of to get more than 1 gold altar per stage?

[covert bloom]

Why?

I saw the vfx look cool

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think there's anything that prevents it, it's just absurdly rare

[wanton hamlet]

why care about if a character is good on the "meta" or not if you arent gonna have fun with them

[dusky raven]

well lucky me there go my credits

void seed here too

[covert bloom]

That true

[lavish jacinth]

I think void seeds technically add credits to the map so that's something I guess

[wintry fjord]

Can dues ex block void insta death

[lavish jacinth]

All the DLCs are good so if there's one that looks interesting to you, go with that one

but SotV is generally considered the best one to start with, it adds a lot to the base game and is arguably the simplest

[wanton hamlet]

if the void implosion actually does damage then sure, but if it just sets ur hp to 0 i dont think so

[wintry fjord]

I want to test it but I don't want to waste a run if I don't work

[lavish jacinth]

void implosions generally ignore all forms of damage immunity

[wintry fjord]

Also if you get the cool down low enough wouldnt gesture be broken

No damage ever

[lavish jacinth]

except strides/viend dash since they remove your hitbox entirely

[wanton hamlet]

"gesture" and "broken" applies to most equipments imo lol

[lavish jacinth]

^

[wintry fjord]

Jade elephant

[wanton hamlet]

spinel tonic

i actually dont cheat my lunar coins anymore cus lunars are pretty broken if you know how to use them

everytime i got to a bazaar i just got gestures and tonic so yeah that wasnt fun

[lavish jacinth]

I just have thousands of coins saved up because I hardly ever spend them outside of buying lunars for friends in multiplayer lol

[covert bloom]

What survivor does Sotv have?

[lavish jacinth]

Railgunner and Void fiend

[rare flame]

if another player picks up lunars does it make commandos incorruptible challenge not work?

[simple coyote]

does deus ex retain through debuffs? for example; a hit guaranteeing needletick, if the collapse kills (or networked suffering or whatever), would it guarantee a ghor’s tome proc? or more aptly, procs off of like a will o’ wisp

and while we’re here can you parry stuff like bleed and burn if it’s on your person

[simple coyote]

I guess not since debuffs do not have a proc coefficient

didn’t test though

[mental arch]

I managed to parry a void jailer's void implosion (the one that chases you around a bit when it dies) with it, so I can confirm that you can there. Haven't tried it on any of the others though.

[cobalt quiver]

operator m1 has the same falloff as commando and captain right?

[livid wedge]

Nope

Honestly probably should

[rough mural]

someone help me 😭

I need the void items

[livid wedge]

You don't need to unlock them. They're available by default with sotv

If you're having difficulty finding them, look for the Void Cradles

[cobalt quiver]

idk i just tested it and it does seem to have fall off.
not sure cuz of the update or something since i dont remember it had before the update

[livid wedge]

Mine didn't

Well, the fully charged shot doesn't, damage was the same regardless of distance

Didn't check uncharged shots, though

[cobalt quiver]

try loading to a new map and shoot a golem or something.
up close its 18 them drops down to 12 if far enough

shit yea just tested only the charged shot have no fall off

[livid wedge]

Lol

[drowsy raft]

what is this mob and where can i find it?

[livid wedge]

||Solus wing and the logbook doesn't drop from them because you'd never be able to pick it up. Instead, it's located||
Extra spoiler
||in the room on solutional haunt where you get the prison matrices||
Extraer
||as soon as you enter the room, it's right below you||

[drowsy raft]

Thank you!

[errant patio]

Can acrid's poison trigger lost seer's glasses effect ?

[livid wedge]

No, the poison does not have a proc coef

[errant patio]

Sad, thanks :

[ornate tusk]

are dios supposed to not work when fighting against the alloy hunter? i was playing multiplayer and died to the hunter however my dios didn't work and didnt show as consumed in the results screen

[lavish jacinth]

its beam attack disables items

[ornate tusk]

damn thats really unfortunate

[rain creek]

can i use repossess to put something on the abandoned aqueduct pressure plates?

[glacial knoll]

has to be a creature or a item or a captain beacon

turret would work

[sweet grotto]

If I defeat false son and enter the green portal, can I fight him again during the same run?

[glacial knoll]

no

[molten pebble]

if you have junk cube, it works

[torn lantern]

How can I make myself glow white and transcend mortality as railgunner

[worthy vapor]

where's the logbook entry for solus wing?

[primal vector]

#ror2-game-questions message

[worthy vapor]

ty

[sullen plume]

Im having a mini argument with a friend. Does swarms affect Sacrifice positively. Im going to cry

[livid wedge]

Yes

Normally, their item drop chance is halved with swarms on but there is a minimum

Which increases the amount of items overall

[sullen plume]

Thx

[mighty torrent]

If i were to get spare drone parts and respawn as a drone would I get like a minigun?

[glacial knoll]

no

[halcyon bane]

why not

[lavish jacinth]

drone parts doesn't apply to yourself

[full apex]

It's not exactly half either, so it's a profit outside the minimum too

[blazing pivot]

I have about 9 hours on ror2 and was wondering if buying any of the dlc's are worth it and how much hours of content would i get out of them?

[heady grove]

What does the up arrow mean on drones in the area that shows all their healthbars? I don't recall seeing that before.

[lavish jacinth]

it indicates that they're getting some sort of buff, like spare drone parts or box of dynamite

[jaunty furnace]

theyre all great

[lavish jacinth]

all of the dlcs are really good and worth getting if you're enjoying the game. Hard to say exactly how many extra hours of gameplay they can add, technically an infinite amount just given the nature of the game.
But they're all full expansions with new final bosses and mechanics and stuff, so there's a pretty significant amount of extra stuff to do

[jaunty furnace]

get sotv first

[heavy gorge]

No get seekers first

It has the best content. THREE survivors!!!

Do the other DLCs add three survivors? Nope!

[tender temple]

Honestly would not recommend sotv ever since any of the other dlcs came out

It's best points are like.. void seeds I guess?

Is the weakest dlc in terms of survivors too

[blazing pivot]

how many do the others have?

[heavy gorge]

Two

Dos

[jaunty furnace]

it has many items that feel like core ror for me and its content is mostly integrated into the base route

[tender temple]

Lowkey I don't like the sotv items nearly as much

I do like the reds but a lot of the whites and greens are like ok I can live without it

[jaunty furnace]

i only dislike like. 9 of the 40 items it adds

excluding lunars since i do not interact with them

[toxic aurora]

Is this a visual bug?

I see the outlines as very colorful

[lavish jacinth]

you mean the area outside the scope being really dark?

[toxic aurora]

I haven't played Railgunner in a long time; I thought the outer outline was darker.

[lavish jacinth]

wdym outline

the outer area being dark is a bug though if that's what you mean

[toxic aurora]

I use a translator; it's difficult for me to write in English.

[halcyon bane]

Do u guys have tips on how to get the gesture of the drowned

[lavish jacinth]

oh, ok

[lavish jacinth]

loop to stage 6 titanic plains and chase them off the cliff
having a knockback ability like railgunner mines or rex's default util helps, or , but it isn't necessary since they naturally run away from you when you get close

avoid stuff like tesla coil that could kill them by accident

[halcyon bane]

Oh ok thanks

So u can’t do it in the imp stage?

[lavish jacinth]

theoretically you could but there's no cliff to push them off of, so you'd have to somehow carry them up to an elevated spot and drop them so they die of fall damage

which is probably even slower than just going to plains

[halcyon bane]

Do they always spawn on stage 6 titans plain

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, and turn off SotV and SotS so their stage 1 maps get removed from the pool, helps with stage RNG

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[halcyon bane]

Is titanic plains the purple one

With the grandparents

[lavish jacinth]

that's sky meadows, stage 5

titanic plains is a stage 1 map, but hermit crabs don't spawn there until after looping

[halcyon bane]

Ok

[lavish jacinth]

and if you're wondering, they don't spawn at all with artifact of dissonance for some reason

[halcyon bane]

That’s the one where things can spawn outside of their normal stage right

[lavish jacinth]

yea

[plucky marsh]

Well that explains 100 runs lol

[haughty tapir]

do hikers boots multiply with magnetic accelerator, or just add to it

-# like so if you had 10 hikers boots (which would be +100% crit chance and +100% crit damage with any other charachter) would it be +100% crit damage * +100% or 200%

[chrome mist]

does regernerating scrap count to Drifter's passive?

cool

[fluid acorn]

whats the general strat for eclipse? just do the 5 stages and then mithrix or do people usually do alternate routes? are things like void fields worth it? I normally just play casually and do whatever but wanna start grinding eclipse

[molten pebble]

how does visions of heresy work on powertool mutli, does it change both m1 and m2 in power tool or just m1 to visions while m2 stays the same

[hoary sedge]

it just changes the m1 slot

[misty drum]

does laser of the father ever refill more stacks than laser burst? i really want to use it over laser burst but later in the run it feels like it refills m2 stacks so slowly but maybe that's a lunar stake thing

[brittle shuttle]

No its kinda just ass rn

Spike refill doesnt scale just the laser length

You have to be in kissing range before laser damage starts to have range falloff

It has a shitty proc co

Its attack speed scaling is completely fucked

[timid furnace]

Does anyone know which stages I’m missing?

[frosty pawn]

The Planetarium, Void Locus and both Tar and Wisp Research variants of Bulwark's Ambry.

[timid furnace]

Thank you so much

[frosty pawn]

No problem

[iron drum]

Are captains arty available in the souls heart fight? And if so should I bring default or alt?

[outer shell]

What should the next ror2 dlc be themed around

[candid dock]

Hey does breaching fin's damage count as the damage of who holds the item or whoever attacks the enemy that has the debuff? I was working on Family Bonding for false son and almost had it, but when Aurellionite hit him for the last time, it didnt give me the achievement despite him being hit with lunar ruin, however he also had the fin debuff.

[graceful dust]

question is there a console command that reveals the lobby mutliplayer code

[jaunty furnace]

i did it on abyssal and i did not use fall damage lol

you can push them up the wall in the top corner of the map and the oob zone kills them

[jaunty furnace]

the alternate stages are worth it if you can do them

for the extra rewards

false son requires a bit of speed and some drones to draw away aggro while you hurry to the cheese spot

ac path requires you to um not have a skill issue :3

[toxic vine]

noob question, is void fields always open as long as you enter shop and haven't done it

like on the second, third, fourth shop visits

[jaunty furnace]

and void fields require something like (youll still have to pop in the safe zone to refresh the increasing damage ticks)

[jaunty furnace]

any time, one use

[toxic vine]

ty

[jaunty furnace]

though if you go blue portal on stage 5 youll be forced to loop

dont forget to bring some healing and mobility 🐱

[fair cove]

how do you unlock the new variant skin ? i thought it was just beating the boss but i didn't got anything

[jaunty furnace]

what boss did you beat

[fair cove]

The new boss solus wing and solus heart

[jaunty furnace]

each base game character has 1 skin for either accepting (pressing e) or rejecting (killing) solus heart's offer

hover over the skin in the lobby or the logbook to see which character does what

[sweet grotto]

whats the pause button in multiplayer

[jaunty furnace]

wdym

it pauses the game for everyone

needs to be enabled before starting the lobby

[simple coyote]

where’s the solus wing logbook at now?

[jaunty furnace]

look under the entrace to the place where you get the prison matrixes

[viral walrus]

got told that i need to build up momentum before using the util to do way more dmg, is there any consistent ways to do it? so far i've been trying to just swing but it hasn't rlly worked out (loader)

[simple coyote]

oh I thought I did. nevermind then

OH in the main room ok

[jaunty furnace]

not the solus wing room, the vultures room

[simple coyote]

the utility does more damage the faster you’re going when you pierce enemies. the main way is grappling through the air and releasing it with the most momentum (generally right before impact), you can also do some tech like grappling the pylon as it’s being thrown out to catch the momentum of the throw also. and I don’t know if quail trimping was patched. falling also works. basically just grapple around like a madman until you figure out loader’s movement

also remember you can grapple off flying enemies

[simple coyote]

if you need a visual. something like that

[viral walrus]

does it change at all for the alt util?

[simple coyote]

don’t use that one

[viral walrus]

oh damn

[viral walrus]

why not?? it looks better

skipping the charge time is really nice

feels way more fun to use tbh

[simple coyote]

the movement doesn’t change for alt utility, but the lack of pierce just sucks.
speaking of alts: using spiked fist may kill whatever you’re latching off of and you can’t get momentum, or eat the crowbar %. as well as, if you’re after a small enemy, not giving you like any speed

i don’t actually know about the monkey slam though

no I used to be like you but truly the loader alts just get in the way

[viral walrus]

is the spiked fist the alt m2?

[simple coyote]

if you’re on controller I do understand that holding the charge while also using the other skills can be a bit hard. I just shuffle my binds a little to play loader though

[viral walrus]

i'll be honest the main problem i have with util is the charge time, it feels so sluggish, esp when i try to go for a swing-punch, so the instant charge alt util feels really nice to use

[viral walrus]

nah i'm on mouse n keyboard

[simple coyote]

you have setup time with bands. loader’s shtick is “destroy everything every 7 seconds”

[viral walrus]

setup time?

ima be real i don't know what you mean

[simple coyote]

you know like 10s cooldown

[viral walrus]

ima be real i may jst be tired but i straight up don't understand what you're talking about now

dunno how the bands are related to me feeling way more comfortable with alt's super short charge time

[simple coyote]

you don’t have to worry about being sluggish is what I’m sayin

[viral walrus]

explained it odd mb

[simple coyote]

anyway. just try the movement like I’ve said, but also give the other abilities an honest try. see what works best for you in the end.
after you get some sleep

[viral walrus]

what i'm saying is charging the punch feels really clunky and boring

meanwhile, being able to instantly send it w/ alt feels way more fun yknow

[viral walrus]

i'm not goin to bed lmao i just got out of school

[simple coyote]

you also kinda just hold it you’re not like. waiting for the moment you see enemies to start charging. and if you are, you probably shouldn’t

[jaunty furnace]

do other things while its charging

swing and gain speed

[viral walrus]

I can use other abilities whilst charging??

i just assumed it locks me into the charging anim until I let go

[chrome mist]

does operator's alt M2 only have the drons just ram into people. they dont acivate their effects?

[lavish jacinth]

Yep

[lavish jacinth]

For the record, you're allowed to use the alt if you want, lol. Default is technically better but both are so good that it hardly matters

And alt works better if you like playing loader as more of a melee brawler

[viral walrus]

jst saw a video breaking down her kit a lil more, and i can definitely see the viability of the normal util tbh

[simple coyote]

does honor disable sonorous’ elite item chance?

not getting anything

nevermind it works. it just seems much rarer

[lone compass]

its rare in the first place

[wintry fjord]

Why are my mountain shrines purple

[lavish jacinth]

artifact of prestige

[grim shadow]

does AP Rounds affect every enemy that can spawn as a boss or does it need to specifically have a boss healthbar

[lavish jacinth]

only enemies with a boss healthbar

[light field]

Can you steal shrines? Kind of upset the last guy I played with. Any other tips are welcome

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, drifter can literally steal them with repossess if that's what you mean, otherwise the only real form of stealing them would be taking the rewards from a chance shrine

otherwise all the shrine rewards are shared

actually I think blood shrines only give a reward to the person who used them, but that's pretty insignificant lol

[light field]

Okay. I think bud was trippin. He said he was saving up for a shrine and I would come in and take it. I was kind of confused, bc I dont want to be that guy. It sounds like hes just salty I was getting rewards or something.

Take it as in get a reward. Not stealing, to clarify

[lavish jacinth]

if he had a chance doll then it would make sense for him to use chance shrines, but if not then he was mad over nothing lol

or if you had way more items than him, it would make sense to let him take the reward. but if nobody has chance doll then it doesn't matter who actually buys it

[light field]

Thank you

[midnight geyser]

will i get the mastery skin if i decompile on moonson? (does it count as a win/oblitiration)

[keen wave]

friend and me are on the first loop and can't find the access node on scorched acres. any tips? we did not activate it he first time and chat said connetion established

[lavish jacinth]

just make sure you've checked the whole map thoroughly, don't forget about the low path that goes behind the big platform on the opposite corner of the map from the island

[reef walrus]

hey yall im going insane comparing blight and poison again. Does acrid's poison damage cap apply before or after armor

doing calculations for armageddon

[lavish jacinth]

the cap is applied first, and all other multipliers are applied after that (armor included)

[reef walrus]

thank you fax machine

love your pfp btw

[lavish jacinth]

lol np

and for what it's worth, if the poison damage cap is a factor at all, then there's no reason blight would ever realistically be a consideration lol

[reef walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

i fucking hate this passive, it drives me insane

[lavish jacinth]

when in doubt, just use poison

blight is just a fixed amount of base damage, it doesn't deal a % of enemy hp like poison does

[still dune]

I can only get one dlc right now so which one should I get

I want to play false son so I’m mainly considering seekers of the storm

[lavish jacinth]

they're all really good, I generally recommend SotV first, but if you're more interested in SotS then go for it

[jaunty furnace]

sotv first, then its kinda your choice

speaking of budget, you could just wait a couple days for the steam winter sale

and save a couple bucks

https://steamdb.info/sales/history/

[abstract sky]

7 minutes in on stage one, teleporter at 70% didint find much items 2 turrets and 4 drones, is that good too? just got 2 bug guards aswell

[lavish jacinth]

how many items did you get overall?

[abstract sky]

6 whitout the bug guards but 3 of them arent very good

more than i remember but still

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you're totally fine then

[abstract sky]

ah, good to have a overview over this

[lavish jacinth]

rule of thumb is at least one item per minute, but as long as you full-clear the stage you'll probably be okay

the drones will also help out

[jaunty furnace]

dont worry too much about time
just get everything and use tools like scrappers and printers to optimize your power

[lavish jacinth]

what you don't ever wanna do is rush and leave stuff behind

[abstract sky]

think is just i will never beat this game when minibosses keep making me strugle alot in the last stage

the final boss especialy will be more dangerous then

[lavish jacinth]

you'll get there, it just takes practice

and trust me, a few extra minutes of "wasted" time is not a big deal

[jaunty furnace]

practice and knowledge

[abstract sky]

well im trying to beat it on monsume as a punishment for cheesing the boss i accedentaly had on normal diffeculty

i fought 3 bosses and only got 2 items?

[lavish jacinth]

the number of bosses doesn't necessarily correspond to the number of items

mountain shrines just increase the overall difficulty of the fight, but only add +1 item per shrine

[abstract sky]

yeah i activated 2 of them already and i already got 2 items

[lavish jacinth]

huh

2 shrines should've given you 3 items then

the third one might've spawned in a weird spot, that can happen if the teleporter is partly clipped into a wall or something

[abstract sky]

only saw 2 flying out of the teleporter

hm

but the 2 items where more fire damage, great for artificer

[lavish jacinth]

nice

still weird though, there should be 3

[abstract sky]

thank god the drones can help me whit these flying pests, they have no buisness doing this much damage

devs acting like i can always be moving in a direction when i go so many enemies to deal whit

[lavish jacinth]

I mean... you CAN always be moving in a direction, it's not like you have to stand still lol

[abstract sky]

now i only got 1 item but only killed 2 bosses, confusing

or maybe 3 and i didint noticed it whit all the enemies

[left forge]

Standing still = you are dead. Not big surprise

[abstract sky]

yeah i bumped into a wall 1 time imidietly 3shot by 4 boss fire raptors

they where so easy to kill why deos everything have to oneshot you auuu. this was such a good run but im getting the hang of it again

[lyric meadow]

Is the item thrown by Drifter's ability cleanup effected by luck?

[rough pagoda]

There's new artifacts in Alloyed Collective, right?

havent bothered to hunt any down yet but wanna make sure without accidentally spoiling the codes for myself

[lyric meadow]

yes

[rough pagoda]

ty!

[abstract sky]

wait the boss circle heads have a huge range? i was flying over half the map and would not stop burning

the damage did get less and less so i guess i barely died

there also was something that sometimes just halfed the health of big monsters, what was that?

[heavy gorge]

I highly doubt it. There’s never an instance where cleanup gives you nothing, so every usage is a success.

Luck would affect the procs and stuff caused by the things you throw though

[willow stirrup]

can i fight the final boss if i unlock drifter in the same run?

[heavy gorge]

Yes

[willow stirrup]

how, i cant decrypt the thing

[heavy gorge]

You can use a rusted key, empathy cores, and the triangle thingy from conduit canyon

[willow stirrup]

ohhhh damnit

[heavy gorge]

You can return to Spex later

[willow stirrup]

really how

[heavy gorge]

The alloy worship unit summons a portal after you kill it and complete the TP event. If you’ve already beaten solus wing, it just takes you to spex

[willow stirrup]

ok cool

[heavy gorge]

Oh and the new stage 4 that isn’t conduit canyon will have that access node thingy you can interact with

It’ll take you straight to Spex after the wing is dead as well

[quasi meteor]

just one

[quasi meteor]

theres also a few other items as well, really any tech related items will probably work

i think they just tried to make it so itd basically always be possible to decrypt it unless you were actively trying to screw yourself like with a shrine of order or scrapper or something

but you can also get as many of those triangle things as you want

[heavy gorge]

Isn’t there a limit?

Can the alloy hunter spawn outside of conduit canyon btw?

[vital ether]

when will acrid primary sprint cancel be patched?

[primal vector]

9 and no, its exclusive to canyon

[willow stirrup]

does the encrypted portal not respawn on looped stage three after killing the alloyed collective?

or whatever the big sphere guy is

nvm i made it to the new stage 4 but i cant find the portal spawner

[lavish jacinth]

the node thing doesn't respawn if you've already been there, the only way to get another portal is by killing alloy worship unit or false son

[lavish jacinth]

hang on, did you actually use a mountain shrine on that stage? they don't carry over between stages unless you use artifact of prestige

[abstract sky]

2 runs ago i activated 1 shrine and then another shrine on an other stage. after the first shrine i fought 2 bosses and after second i fought 3

assmed they carry over because that

[lavish jacinth]

nah, you can get extra bosses without using a mountain shrine

[lavish jacinth]

it still works, you just have to time the sprint after each swing instead of mashing

unless you mean patched out, in which case probably never since it's basically a feature at this point

[vital ether]

do you know if there's like a mod that fixes it?

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-modding would know, but I'd be surprised if there was

it isn't really "broken", just different

it does feel a little weird now but idk if it actually changed in SotS/AC or if I just have dementia lol

but all the way back in SotV they changed it so that it cycles through the whole combo instead of just the first swing, but requires timing

[steady swallow]

is the recipe wake of vultures + sentry key still a thing?

[wanton hamlet]

all aspects got nuked except the collective one so yeah

[steady swallow]

is that one good? worth holding over credit card?

[lavish jacinth]

it's one of the better ones, and if you're about to go to solus heart then you might as well

[steady swallow]

bet

[lavish jacinth]

it gives 20% cooldown reduction and a bubble shield that blocks projectiles

[wanton hamlet]

its basically a 30m dome that blocks projectiles and reduces ally & self Skill Cooldown by 20%

but now its a little worse cus its not permanent i think???, like the shield is not active all times

[steady swallow]

oh that sounds good

[lavish jacinth]

iirc it gets disabled temporarily if you actually take damage, or something like that

[digital umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/have-at-thee-ratatouille-gif-11199067726130995678

what

no why

[stuck sorrel]

Is there any command for reviving a friend in game?

[lavish jacinth]

only with the debugtoolkit mod

[heavy gorge]

Does attack speed influence Tornado Slam at all?

[pastel epoch]

does drifter's default M2 have rarities cooresponding to item pool drop rates?

like 79% for common, 20% uncommon, 1% for legendary?

[stuck sorrel]

Gotcha ty!

[pastel epoch]

is this form looking at the code or by just using the M2 a lot?

[heavy gorge]

I want to say code since this is on wiki.gg

afaik that's the best wiki for this game

[echo rapids]

is junk cube supposed to no longer give junk on hit like it used to?

[echo rapids]

like junk cube used to be used for farming junk but that doesn't seem to work anymore, I assume it was patched?

[dusky raven]

Yup it’s patched out

[echo rapids]

figured

[tardy terrace]

Game desyncing when playing multiplayer?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that happens

[shrewd depot]

Anyone know of a way to maximize Drifter's knockback / throw distance?

I feels mildly inconsistent and sometimes I manage to throw things / enemies / a player super far and other times a lesser distance

Like sometimes I'll do a cube hit / hit combo on an enemy and they'll go sliding super far

[amber swan]

They robbed broken han-d head kust make it 1% the same as the rest im losing it

Equalize the chances dear god.

[molten pebble]

how good is visions of heresy on seeker

i dont use her m1 much would vision be a decent upgrade to her m1 or a direct downgrade

[lavish jacinth]

it's a pretty big downgrade I think

I'm not sure what her primary's dps is but the third hit does gain extra damage from tranquility stacks

plus it slows enemies, which counts towards death mark if nothing else

[serene heath]

Hey uh I know Viend pretty well but I haven't delved into lunar items much. What lunar items (I don't have ac, just in case if it added lunar items) are good on him?

[simple coyote]

127 glass

[safe canyon]

Most lunar items are either good in general or just outright bad, but corpsebloom with his normal R can be really good passive healing if you can adjust to not instantly getting your healing (unless you're on eclipse 5+ then dont take corpsebloom in general)

[serene heath]

oh... Ok. Thanks a ton!

[barren lichen]

i have a question

[stable stone]

who are these 2?

[high forum]

voidling/overloading magma worm

[stable stone]

time to loop until i get 10 clover

[jaunty furnace]

erm its overloading worm acshually

[jaunty furnace]

stock up on green scrap and visit the bazaar frequently

...youre probably just gonna use command though

[barren lichen]

one shot

niko belic

bowling

[jaunty furnace]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GyhpWkBW8AAP99u.gif