ror2-game-questions

[shadow girder]

i wanna ask why i beat the game as seeker i dont have skin even 2 times

heck i thought or moonsoon

[fallen bridge]

when raincoat is not recharging it counts as a buff

[steady stone]

all of these

and +aspects

the wiki.gg

just make sure youre not on the fandom wiki

oh yeah, that list is on the growth nectar page

yeah, "1 or more shots charged"

could use some proc chains

[fallen bridge]

needs more

never enough salad

[strange vale]

Guys am I the only one whose eyes get RED playing ror2 but not any other game. I can literally hang on pc/phone for days playing any other games but 1 hour of ror2 fries my eyes...

[elfin zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[primal vector]

Try different settings. I cannot play HL2, it gives me a terrible headache and its related to something that game does with frame rate

[sick fossil]

Hey having some trouble unlocking seekers 2nd ability have at this point over 20 Crow bars, 20 focus, on like stage 10 and have had multiple grouped enemies and fully charged it and still won't unlock what could I be missing at this point?

Cause at this point feels like a bug

[cinder pasture]

does 57 leaf affect artifact of sacrifice

[lavish jacinth]

It isn't bugged afaik, you probably just need to do more damage. Try to stay in sojourn as long as possible ( will help with that), there's no cap on how much damage it can deal iirc, it just increases the longer you're in it. Also add some more multipliers, shaped glass or some watches would go a long way

[lavish jacinth]

No

[cinder pasture]

this new is most upsetting

[lavish jacinth]

It's not like you really need it with how many drops sacrifice gives

And if luck affected it then taking purity would ruin the run lol

[cinder pasture]

can i still get stuff like shared design on sacrifice?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[sick fossil]

More? I stacked quite high in damage and held in my sojourn for its full duration, I was with a buddy who was hosting but I tired 4 separate times with more damage each time I even saw it in red numbers hit 500k still no proc so idk it could be a host bug

[lavish jacinth]

It needs to be 500,000% base damage, not just 500k

[sick fossil]

Watched many guides saying 10 crow bars and 10 focus crystals were more than plenty, I had over 30 of each that should've been fine

Still no proc

[lavish jacinth]

It's possible multiplayer is affecting it somehow but idk

It shouldn't be that hard to get

[sick fossil]

It's not but if its bugged in multiplayer that sucks but gonna try a solo run and see if it works if it does then its Def a multiplayer bug

[cinder pasture]

is there anything that can survive the void black hole of doom things

[clear whale]

Mithrix and False Son can

[cinder pasture]

false son can?

[cinder pasture]

wait the boss or the survivor?

[clear whale]

the boss

[cinder pasture]

is there anyway to take a hit from it and your run not be over

[clear whale]

dios best friend

or any revive items

[cinder pasture]

i thought it bypassed those

[steady stone]

it bypasses damage nullification but not revives

[quasi topaz]

And halcyonites for some reason

[lavish jacinth]

Strides of heresy and void fiends utility give immunity to them

[lavish jacinth]

Only the lingering black hole that voidling leaves when it dies

And it doesn't even really bypass them, it just ignores the invincibility that you get after reviving, so you'd revive and instantly die again

[crude sequoia]

Are the survivors wearing suits or is that just their bodies

Like they have equipment

But like is it just armor or something

[mellow crystal]

They're suits yea
Commando and merc are clearly standard space suits and loader is outright stated to use a power suit

[crude sequoia]

Alr thanks

[sacred oar]

hi, i have a question, after i've picked up this elite orb (those elemental orbs what have like 1/4000 chance to drop) i didn't get those into logbook. Any ideas how to fix it?

[mellow crystal]

They don't have any logbook entries afaik

[lavish jacinth]

I know what you mean, if the ingame settings don't help then you could try turning on night light mode (assuming you're on windows) or see if your monitor has some kind of blue light filter or something. It messes with the colors a bit but it makes the brightness more tolerable

[lavish jacinth]

rallypoint delta be like

idk, whichever one(s) you like playing lol

[strange vale]

Already tried, I have to quit since im way to afraid to damage my vision 😭

Tried several displays, even playing on bigger tv, different light conditions

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[strange vale]

Thanks for the advice tho

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there's something weird about how ror2 does lighting, it seems to bother some people more than others

[past monolith]

can i go back to looping after unlocking an artifact?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

going through the artifact portal (or any portal besides the main teleporter aligned to the moon or void portal) will always loop

[high needle]

Question: Is there a reason why for some reason none of my teamate's names show up in-game?

Is there a way to fix this? and if so how?

[torpid zenith]

Does anyone know where the names of the shrines are located? I am trying to change them.

[quasi topaz]

Try #ror2-modding for game code lookups

[lavish jacinth]

if you're just changing the text files then Steam\steamapps\common\Risk of Rain 2\Risk of Rain 2_Data\StreamingAssets\Language\en, the files are interactors.json and dlc2.json

[lavish jacinth]

if there's a fix then #ror2-modding would know

[torpid zenith]

Yoo thanks man appreciate it!!

[torpid zenith]

Oh alright thanks!!

[daring cloak]

Yes

Reach stage 21

[lavish jacinth]

while you're at it you could do it with commando without using lunars, and unlock his alt special (and probably alt secondary if you don't have it) at the same time

nah, you're just not a pro ror2 player yet

everyone becomes a commando main eventually

I'm not joking, ask any veteran ror2 player

most will probably tell you that they started liking commando once they got better at the game

it's like puberty for ror2 players

[woven sigil]

can you block void reaver explosion with tougher times?

[daring cloak]

No

[kindred herald]

The Void Death damage type ignores the damage number associated with it. Instead, it has been designed such that it immediately kills whatever receives the damage type in and of itself, regardless of the amount. This means Armor as well as protection items like Tougher Times.png Tougher Times and SotV Icon.png Safer Spaces.png Safer Spaces are completely ignored and incapable of affecting the outcome.

Can you avoid void implosion with sojourn? Wiki doesn’t say

[hoary sedge]

yeah you can

sojourn just straight-up removes your hitbox

[pearl cloud]

Loud incorrect buzzer

[random escarp]

Can you believe I lost this? Just look at my build. I was obliterating every damn thing.
Then his spinny got me.
The moment I dashed into him with my special was exactly when he activated his spinny. The spinnies are dense in the middle, so I couldn't dodge it. One hits me and launches me, and then it's just a matter of time before I take another hit and die.
It's his spinny that gets me EVERY. DAMN. TIME. I've only beaten him once till now and it was with Engineer, so I practically didn't even have to fight him. Other than that every single run I've died to his spinny. Either I am up close against him and I can't dodge the dense spinnies, or I am dodging them well from a distance but a single misstep messes everything up.
Am I playing phase 3 in a fundamentally wrong way? Should I be playing in a manner so that I can make distance whenever needed to dodge his spinny?

[lavish jacinth]

you should basically just stay relatively close and try to move along with the lines

the exact distance you need to be at will depend somewhat on your move speed, but you get a feel for it with practice

also, once he's below 75% health he'll always alternate between spinny and the big ground shockwave on a 30s cooldown, so you can sorta predict when it's about to happen and be ready for it

[random escarp]

Yeah I know how to dodge it but sometimes the timing of his spinny is just really bad. Like in this run the moment I dashed into him was when he did it, and I was basically on top of him so I couldn't dodge it

Was this just bad luck lol

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's why you try to be ready for it in advance

[random escarp]

AH

I see

So the key is predicting when it's coming?

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much

my usual strat is to stay near the ramps for most of the fight, mostly for cover and verticality, but it also helps to keep any chimeras away from the center of the arena

then when I think spinny is about to happen I start moving towards the center

[random escarp]

Ah

I see. That's very valuable info

Thanks! I will try this in my next run

[lavish jacinth]

np, good luck

[kindred herald]

Under 75% mithrix will start jumping
you can tell because he’ll get the yellow armor buff and crouch down, then jump
he’ll come back down in the middle and always do 2-3 more attacks before stopping whereever he is to the spinny

this gives you time to control your distance to him

[solar bronze]

I have a question about an item that might not even exist... I swear the last time I played this game a lot there was an item that gave your primary weapon multi-shot. it was common(white) or uncommon(green) and each one made your weapon fire another bullet per shot fired... Am I imagining this?

[lavish jacinth]

was it ?

[glacial knoll]

Plasma Shrimp maybe

[lavish jacinth]

or it could've been a modded item

[solar bronze]

you know.... this is probably it

[fallen bridge]

other than shuriken or luminous shot i can't think of anything that would do that, starstorm 2's relic of force made attacks hit multiple times but that is a lunar

[lavish jacinth]

I know I've played a mod with an item that actually duplicated your projectiles but it was ages ago and I forget the name lol

[solar bronze]

I might be able to get it back, I have the mod launcher and I think I backed up my mods... somewhere...

[lavish jacinth]

GradiusMod

[solar bronze]

That will be it

Actually, I'm not sure... I know I have that item but I'm sure there was another item that let me make any gun a shotgun. I will find it now I know it must have been a mod. I got all my mods from a youtube video like 2-3 years ago.

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-modding would probably know

[woven sigil]

im tryin get the gesture of the drowned and im on titanic plains stage 6 i got one hermit crab but then i havent been seeing any other for 10 mins does there need to be no monsters for them to spawn?

[peak jacinth]

no the director can just be a bit silly sometimes with how it spends credits on enemies, just wait around a bit and they will eventually spawn

[sacred panther]

Is there any say on when the dlc is coming out

I need all those drones

[torpid zenith]

does anyone know how to use the language file editor? I alr made the file but idk what to do now
sorry I didnt mean to reply to

[peak jacinth]

no not really

pretty sure it’s expected this year but other than that not sure

[torpid zenith]

does anyone have tips for bandit sadist

[peak jacinth]

try to complete it by attacking alloy worship unit, back up mags help but aren’t necessary, try to complete the teleporter first so you can focus on the boss

[lavish jacinth]

^^^^ hemorrhage lasts 15s and refreshes with every new stack like bleed, so getting 20 stacks is pretty easy. You just need an enemy that can tank that much damage for long enough, hence AWU

aurelionite also works but AWU is a little easier

[torpid zenith]

Oh sweet thanks yall!!

[sturdy thistle]

Who is awu?

[lavish jacinth]

alloy worship unit

[sturdy thistle]

Is that the guy u have to break the eggs?

[cinder pasture]

how do people consistently win using merc on monsoon, like i am reliant on at least a little healing or i will eventually just die while killing wisps or the flying things with mouths

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, most people rely on getting at least some amount of healing lol

but merc is one of the harder characters to learn, a lot of it comes down to abusing his iframes and mobility, being aggressive, and using expose as much as possible to keep your cooldowns short

there's a merc guide linked in the pins if you scroll down a bit, it's pretty old but most of it is still accurate

[cinder pasture]

i know 2 of the techs. the m1 and focused assault (i know some people think blind is better i just dont like it near as much) and slamming flying enemies into the ground

[lavish jacinth]

Last I checked the slam tech doesn't really work anymore, at least not consistently

The expose tech is still really useful though

[cinder pasture]

yeah ive noticed its why i dont use it much but i still know it

[cinder pasture]

yeah ive gotten pretty good at it but my main problem is trying to get to teleporter as fast as possible because time is my enemy on monsoon and trying to get at least one healing item like shark tooth necklace or medkit

[lavish jacinth]

you should still be full clearing on monsoon

[fallen bridge]

yah you should not be going that fast

[cinder pasture]

wdym?

[fallen bridge]

items always outscale time, so be sure to full loot

[lavish jacinth]

you shouldn't be rushing to the teleporter

[cinder pasture]

i thought the point was to get to snow before 10 minutes

[lavish jacinth]

what? no lol

unless you're trying to unlock preon

[fallen bridge]

that is just for an unlock, you do not have to do that every time

[cinder pasture]

oh

thats what ive been doing just going right to teleporter for the first 3 stages and only grab loot near teleporter

[lavish jacinth]

try to get all the loot from every stage as efficiently as you can, one item per minute is a good rule of thumb

[fallen bridge]

in monsoon each stage will take around 8-10 minutes to full clear, but doing item macro will increase the average by a bit

[lavish jacinth]

but it's okay to spend time farming or messing with printers and scrappers and stuff, you basically just want all of your time to be spent on things that'll make you stronger

[cinder pasture]

it just gets really hard on monsoon when you are on stage 5 on HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[lavish jacinth]

but rushing stages just hurts you in the long run. enemies scale with both time and stage count, and items are how you get stronger

[lavish jacinth]

and it's only gonna be harder with fewer items

[cinder pasture]

well alright thank you ill try that this run. besides the tech is there any reason to use focused assasult over blinding assault

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, the tech works with both of them

[cinder pasture]

yeah but i normally get to stage 5 around 20 minutes

[fallen bridge]

95% of the time, if you are full looting, you will destroy everything on stage 5 regardless of enemy level

[lavish jacinth]

again, enemies scale with time and stage count, and items are the main thing that makes you stronger

[cinder pasture]

is there always like 6-8 pieces of gear on a level?

[fallen bridge]

enemies scale 15% faster per stage cleared so rushing stages like that just makes you weaker overall

[lavish jacinth]

it depends on stage but 6-10 is pretty average for early stages, later ones will be more like 10-12ish

[cinder pasture]

yeah alright thank you ill try ful clearing this run

[lavish jacinth]

getting fewer items also means that you're relying more on rng for those items to be good

[cinder pasture]

yeah that is where my problem lie with people getting good runs

[fallen bridge]

stage 1/2 tend to have 7-12 items, 3/4 are maybe 12-15, & stage 5 is around 16 maybe

full looting makes good runs & cohesive builds much more likely

[lavish jacinth]

and items also tend to build on each other's effects, especially damage items. So you can get exponentially stronger with more items while being less reliant on rng

[lavish jacinth]

also I was gonna add
merc's skills are all pretty good and well-balanced, so you can really just use whichever one you prefer. He doesn't have any bad loadouts

[cinder pasture]

if i have a choice between medkit/or another good healing item and like lens maker glasses what should i choose?

[fallen bridge]

in terms of item priority, dmg > mvmt speed > dmg mitigation > healing

[lavish jacinth]

in most cases, damage is king

[cinder pasture]

im using eviscerate should i prioritize atk spd?

[lavish jacinth]

attack speed does make it harder to do the expose tech

[cinder pasture]

fair

[lavish jacinth]

it's not awful but I wouldn't prioritize it over other sources of damage

[cinder pasture]

i mean you can always just click m1 to get it all of the time

[fallen bridge]

it will make expose tech harder but eviscerate is a strong skill, so you should generally prioritize other dmg sources but don't leave it on the ground

[lavish jacinth]

focus crystal is a pretty obvious one for merc

[cinder pasture]

i know it is good and will always be but i feel like it falls off later when i use the tech and only a few weaker enemies are in my bubble

[lavish jacinth]

not necessarily, at high enough attack speed I think the frames where it's possible are straight up deleted from the animation

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's why you get multiple sources of damage

[cinder pasture]

how good is sticky bomb is just a meh item it seems kinda irrelevant

[fallen bridge]

sticky bomb is a pretty good item

[lavish jacinth]

it's similar to crit in terms of dps

[fallen bridge]

slightly less extra dmg than crit glasses but it's aoe

[cinder pasture]

so i have 7 item after teleporter finished and timer at 5:05, is it worth just going to next stage or looking for more?

[fallen bridge]

on stage 1 there's probably a few more items than that

[lavish jacinth]

maybe
if you looked through the whole stage then it's probably fine to leave

[cinder pasture]

if there is a void item does that take away from one of the normal chests?

[fallen bridge]

they have a higher "credit cost" so they actually take away 2-3 chests

[cinder pasture]

oh ok so there probably none left

[fallen bridge]

though void items tend to be very strong so it makes up for that

[lavish jacinth]

which map are you on?

[cinder pasture]

yeah i got lysate cell i got lucky

this one i dont remember the name

[lavish jacinth]

oh, distant roost

[fallen bridge]

roost? yah if there was a void cradle you're probably fine to leave

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, roost doesn't have a ton of credits

[cinder pasture]

there was a statue of chance 8 normal items and 1 void

[lavish jacinth]

oh and if you haven't already been getting them, it's worth buying drones if you have extra cash

[cinder pasture]

out of all of the equipment what should i use. like is credit card just best because of shops

[fallen bridge]

recycler & credit card are generally the 2 strongest

[lavish jacinth]

in no particular order are top 5 imo, with honorable mentions to . But it's somewhat situational, those are just my go-tos
(although cube is usually best given to an equipment drone)

[cinder pasture]

for damaging equipment what is best

i hate spinal tonic i just dont get it

[fallen bridge]

are all quite strong

crowdfunder's dps isn't super fantastic on its own but it scales extremely well w/ other items, capacitor & preon are great w/ burst items like , & missile launcher has the synergy & is pretty good on its own

[lavish jacinth]

depends on what you want
has the highest overall dps
has the highest burst damage and great aoe, but the cooldown is painful
is great burst with a pretty short cooldown
can nuke bosses and is great with bleed builds
pretty good all rounder but not the best at anything
not technically damage equipments on their own, but have great potential if used right

[cinder pasture]

is there a good reason to take the void version of the lens maker's glasses

[lavish jacinth]

uhhh being bandit

[fallen bridge]

unless you're really struggling or are bandit, not really

[lavish jacinth]

they can be a good safety net if you plan on looping, but normally it's better to just have damage from crits

[cinder pasture]

what about stuff like extra mag?

[fallen bridge]

backup mag is pretty survivor-dependent, but some survivors benefit a lot from it ... namely arti, huntress, & loader but it's pretty decent on everyone

[lavish jacinth]

for the record, crowdfunder does 1500% dps when fully revved up on top of whatever your survivor can do normally, even without other items it's pretty damn solid

(assuming you have enough gold income to keep it going)

[cinder pasture]

im mostly just talking about merc right now, im decent with most of the other survivors on monsoon

[fallen bridge]

-# i am bad at aiming it

[lavish jacinth]

lol

for merc, crowdfunder proooobably isn't the best choice since it's kinda hard to aim it while dashing around

[cinder pasture]

use the gold to get a better gaming chair that will fix it

[cinder pasture]

extra mag on merc

[fallen bridge]

it also has some bullet spread so it's inconsistent at long ranges

[fallen bridge]

not fantastic but worth keeping

[lavish jacinth]

I'm a huge simp for especially on survivors with AoE (which merc has plenty of), but like I said it's often better to give it to an equipment drone for near-constant uptime since you don't really need to aim it much

a cube drone will also bully mithrix constantly which is always fun

[fallen bridge]

being a half-cd primordial cube makes me sad to see it so hated

[lavish jacinth]

the 20 second cooldown was just excessive tbh

[cinder pasture]

ohyeah that reminds me. how useful are bands on merc?

[lavish jacinth]

it's not a horrible effect but the amount of damage you give up for it is painful

[fallen bridge]

i'd love to see it be 15s but it's still pretty solid as it is now

[fallen bridge]

pretty useful if you're running focused assault, 1050% on focused is solid for band dmg

[lavish jacinth]

it's pretty hard to control where his band procs go, but bands are always at least decent

[cinder pasture]

i just used my void key and got to choose between, safer spaces, void lens maker's glasses and void 57 leaf clover

[fallen bridge]

spaces 100%

[lavish jacinth]

safer spaces

[cinder pasture]

TOUGHER TIME

well

on merc? though? which is better safer spaces or tougher times

[fallen bridge]

merc is not hit very often, so spaces is much better

[lavish jacinth]

safer spaces is kinda just always good except on rex

[fallen bridge]

spaces is better on pretty much everyone as long as you're dodging

[cinder pasture]

yeah tell that to my merc hes a porcupine

both bands or void bands? im guessing void since it pulls them all to once place making it really easy to tech with focused assasult?

[lavish jacinth]

nah, stick with regular bands

[fallen bridge]

merc does not struggle w/ crowds at all so regular bands are better

[cinder pasture]

being the best player thats ever lived i am i use captain the most, safer spaces or tougher times?

[fallen bridge]

again, spaces

[lavish jacinth]

bro we just

[cinder pasture]

even the no movement

[lavish jacinth]

you can still dodge with no movement, and cap has microbots to eat projectiles for him

[cinder pasture]

well thats not true captain can get the highets acceleration and velocity in the game

[fallen bridge]

you want spaces on literally everyone but rex

[lavish jacinth]

There's maybe an argument for tougher times on engineer since turrets can't dodge, but that's very situational

[fallen bridge]

i think spaces is still better if you place them carefully or fighting mithrix but it's still much closer

[cinder pasture]

i would argue that bungus paired with safer is better on engineeeeeer's TR12 turds than with tougher times

[lavish jacinth]

like I said, it's situational

[cinder pasture]

did i just lose. i got meat hook on merc?

[lavish jacinth]

no? meat hook is great

[cinder pasture]

itj ust kinda makes it harder to run away and too from the enemies

[lavish jacinth]

basically a better uke with a black hole effect

I mean, you want enemies to be closer to you as merc

[fallen bridge]

not really ...

[lavish jacinth]

it just gives you aoe damage and groups up enemies

and besides, merc is at his best when he's playing aggressive and diving into crowds

[cinder pasture]

can anything else use ignition tank than gasoline

i guess band?

[lavish jacinth]

anything that causes burn DoT

[fallen bridge]

wake of vultures, ifrit's distinction, arti, chef, gas

[lavish jacinth]

too

[fallen bridge]

can't believe i forgot merf ...

[lavish jacinth]

daily reminder that molotov is an item that exists

[pulsar creek]

still better than

[lavish jacinth]

it's funny how molotov would've been a perfectly fine item if they'd just done the obvious thing and made it one big fire pool instead of 6 tiny ones

[pulsar creek]

ya instead it just bounces exactly where u don't want it

[cinder pasture]

no it dont.

molotov is that one piece of technology in a dream where you cant see or it tell what it is but you think it is there

[cinder pasture]

it would just be better if it scaled with something make it bigger in later stages

DO MAGMA WORMS GET BIGGER IN LATER STAGES?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it technically scales, the pools have a proc coeff and it can get buffed by multipliers like anything else, it's just tiny and useless

[lavish jacinth]

no

[cinder pasture]

just imagine if captains guns can shoot molotovs that would be awesome. is that a mod? it should be

[fallen bridge]

i mean ... you could learn modding

[cinder pasture]

which should i take? i alreadyh have a copy of lycate

[lavish jacinth]

I'd go polylute

[cinder pasture]

wihch/

[lavish jacinth]

the one on the right

[fallen bridge]

polylute is one of the best items in the game, very worth

[cinder pasture]

a grand parent is just sitting IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP SPAMMING OMEGA SUNS.

[lavish jacinth]

they like to do that

[mellow crystal]

What's even funnier is that it's actually a pretty solid damage equipment (ESPECIALLY with ignition tank) if you can get all the pools on one enemy, the issue is actually doing that on anything that isn't a big and slow tp boss

[cinder pasture]

with enough safer spaces could you be immortal?

[fallen bridge]

nop

[lavish jacinth]

at 65 stacks it has a 1 frame cooldown

you can still technically take damage but you'd pretty much have to be doing it on purpose

[fallen bridge]

some attacks, like mithrix's hammer, hit multiple times in a frame so you'll still take dmg

[lavish jacinth]

void implosions can also still kill you, they can't be blocked

[cinder pasture]

howd you get that number?

whats the formula for safer spaces timer?

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Safer_Spaces

[fallen bridge]

15 x 0.9^x

[cinder pasture]

wait but that is only if you have 60 frames a second

[lavish jacinth]

nah, your actual framerate doesn't matter, the game still runs at 60 ticks per second

[cinder pasture]

this frustrates me

[fallen bridge]

timer math runs on fixedupdate which is 1/60 seconds

[lavish jacinth]

trust me, you don't want the game to be tied to your actual framerate

[fallen bridge]

bring back zoomy loader ...

[lavish jacinth]

post-SotS ptsd

[cinder pasture]

i want 24 frames a second with safer spaces and topaz broach

the elites that stop you from healing. how do you kill those they have a crazy amount of health or are just tanky in other ways

[lavish jacinth]

shoot them until they die

or sword them I guess

[cinder pasture]

they kill me. almost evrey time after stage 5

[fallen bridge]

malachite elites are very dangerous, just avoid their spike traps & urchin & you will be fine

[lavish jacinth]

there isn't really a trick to them, it's literally just "don't get hit"

[cinder pasture]

god i hate wisps

[fallen bridge]

real

[kindred herald]

safer spaces is among the best items in the game: thyere are very few to no scenarios where tougher times is betteer

[cinder pasture]

inf tougher times in artifact of command

so much fun to be had with artifacts

[kindred herald]

sure but in artifact of command nothing matters anyway lol

[cinder pasture]

i just got new dlc, why is seeker so tanky? like really tanky

[fallen bridge]

seeker of the storm

[cinder pasture]

is that place that dangerous?

[fallen bridge]

are you talking about prime meridian?

[cinder pasture]

yeah

[fallen bridge]

it can be, for whatever reason it has a ton of enemy credits so watch out for those gilded greater wisps ...

[cinder pasture]

are the gilded ones the green ones or is that something else

[fallen bridge]

gilded ones are gold

[cinder pasture]

yeah i found a gilded wisp then those do suck

[fallen bridge]

but that doesn't matter, just be cautious since the enemies there tend to be extremely tanky

[honest badger]

She's a healer who now has the same healing capabilities on herself that she once had for teammates

[brittle shuttle]

Thats her entire gimmick

She be healing herself

Rex minus the self damage

[cinder pasture]

ive been tryingto do this and now ive gone to arti of command, how long do even need to hold this to get 500 000 % damage that seems kinda unreasonable

[brittle shuttle]

Pins

[cinder pasture]

Transcendence really would be perfect for this

thank you

[glacial knoll]

you can use shaped glass and a bunch of items of course

[cinder pasture]

"you hear thunder rumbling" on bazaar between time? i thuoght that was only on normal stages

[fallen bridge]

that means there are 3 golden geodes around the main chasm, break them & a green portal will spawn

[brittle shuttle]

Secret way to access the path of colossus via bazaar

So you can do stuff like

3 normal stages then fight false son

Instead of taking the entire alt path

[cinder pasture]

do i get something from killing the children? (dont clip that)

[fallen bridge]

money

[cinder pasture]

good enough for me

what is wrong with my health bar?

[fallen bridge]

lunar ruin debuff applies that cyan effect to the hp bar, each stack reduces healing by 10% & increases dmg taken by 10%

[cinder pasture]

oh no

can i remove it?

[fallen bridge]

the golden geodes will cleanse it

[cinder pasture]

kinda expensive for a flask?

[fallen bridge]

you get 3

[cinder pasture]

ah

is growth level?

[fallen bridge]

growth is additional hp, like etc.

[crisp timber]

Growth is a mechanic unique to false son. You gain "Growth" as you get extra HP above your base

[cinder pasture]

how much "Growth" is one lunar spike?

[crisp timber]

one

it's the equivalent of getting about 10,000 extra HP, I believe?

[cinder pasture]

i need to get 400 000 hp?

[crisp timber]

no. 40 growth is 10,000 hp

[cinder pasture]

oh ok

got worried for a second

i mean i wouldnt put it past them after the 500 000 % damage

[crisp timber]

the 500k% damage one isn't too bad. You can deal the 500k across multiple enemies

[cinder pasture]

in game how do i tell what growth i am at is it just buttom left?

[fallen bridge]

how many extra stocks you have of m2

[cinder pasture]

yeah i know i already did it but i would guess its just spamming tonic pauldrons

[fallen bridge]

not counting ...

[cinder pasture]

damm. would of been fun though

[cinder pasture]

well ok

is it worth fighting mithrix with the debuffs? (using the halycron seed for the move)

[wet bison]

on rally point delta where can the Preon Accumulator spawn

[clear whale]

100% drop rate from locked security chests

requires you to unlock the chest before the timer hits the 10 minutes mark

[wet bison]

there are 3 spot on the hill in a crate and ...?

[clear whale]

idk

[crisp timber]

inside one of the storage containers

[cinder pasture]

i went through the wrong portal and now i am in the prime meridian, is there a way to still fight mithrix?

[crisp timber]

beat false son and another portal will spawn

[cinder pasture]

also can i lower my jump height? like make it so i jump lower on the grown?

[crisp timber]

and no

[cinder pasture]

damn

is 94 the limit? i got to it 2 stages back and i havent gotten any progress

[steady stone]

Yes, although there have been cases of people going to 95 or once 96

Gearbox magic, but generally 94

it's just the int limit of exp iirc

[cinder pasture]

do we have a function of level to total exp or exp per level. either is fine

[steady stone]

like a graph for how much exp per lvl? I could browse the wiki in like 5-10 minutes

[cinder pasture]

oh mb i should probably check that first

[steady stone]

no graph but math

[cinder pasture]

thats just weird

[cinder pasture]

yeah but it graphs

[plucky flame]

is the seeker of the storm dlc worht buying now? have the devs fixed the bugs from when it first released, i plan to buy it during this summer sale

[cinder pasture]

this is just an anecdote. i got it a few hours ago. im loving it, new characters seem fun, i like the new maps, the new skins for the other characters are great they seem much more polished, and the new gear imo is meh but you are mostly getting the new characters and maps

ide say its worth it if you can afford it

[cinder pasture]

so i think i found it. the total exp for 94 is massive but the total exp for 95 is much more massive.
the amount of exp you need to get from 94 to 95 is bigger than the signed 64 bit integer limit of 2^63 - 1
but how did people to get 95 or 96 then?

[steady stone]

yeah that's why it's generally just 94
every copy of ror2 is personalised

[cinder pasture]

what?

[steady stone]

realistically if i had to guess it would be a console player, they handle overflows a bit different (see special scaling boss healthbars not going to -2.4bil), but it's just some bug

[cinder pasture]

who knows

[steady stone]

mm, looking at it again a lot of these reports are from console

[cinder pasture]

the 95 makes sense for rollover on console numbers but 96 is way bigger than 96 which is whats throwing me off

i also know ive seen 96 on streams

so i am fighting mithrix with the halycron seed from the golden place. how do i get the thing to kill it so i can get the move. will it just spawn on the last stage?

[steady stone]

yeah, auri just spawns during the fight

during p4, that is

[cinder pasture]

fightiing this boss with a net speed of -5 m/s sucks

damn 3 in one

[cinder pasture]

not a single pieceo of green equipment within the first stage or first green portal after halycron shrine, is that even possible or did i not look hard enuogh?

[crisp timber]

You didn’t do the boss tp?

I mean it’s theoretically possible, just unlikely

[cinder pasture]

they dropped yellow items not greens

honestly though that new false son character is a ton of fun coming from merc

[onyx plume]

in eclipse 8, does seeker get generally worse?

cuz u can't use sojourn?

[fallen bridge]

reprieve is still very strong & seeker is one of the easiest survivors to complete eclipse on

[turbid oasis]

are there any tips for the 30 consequtive weak spot hits as railgunner?

[fallen bridge]

other than just "lock in", not really ...

[turbid oasis]

ive heard use the artifact of kin

[turbid oasis]

im trying 😭

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, if you're really struggling you can use kin and reset until you get something easy like beetles, but honestly it might be good practice to just do it normally

[muted flicker]

does anyone know what the monster in the logbook between the void reaver and the beetle queen is? I think it might be a Geep but im not sure as that shares the same logbook entry as the gup on the wiki

[woven sigil]

my friend picked up 4 shaped glasses and has topaz brooch if his barrier is lets say 15 and a attack does 20 does the attack pierce through his shield? he needs the huntress balista

[daring cloak]

Yes that would pierce

[fallen bridge]

yah, it will go through barrier

[quasi topaz]

Voidling

[fallen bridge]

but if they have 4 shaped glass it's not like anything will be alive anyway

[muted flicker]

omg im so stupid. thank you

[carmine adder]

What's this last monster log I need?

[daring cloak]

Thats the void devastator

[carmine adder]

Any tips of fast ways to get the log?

[daring cloak]

Idk you could loop, go to void locus, turn on dissonance so they can spawn as normal tp bosses or farm for it during a void family event

[carmine adder]

Void family event?

[daring cloak]

Family events are very rare events that may happen once per stage and last for the entire stage, if one happens only a select few monsters will spawn

[carmine adder]

Never seen or heard of that

[daring cloak]

So for example during a void family event only void reavers, jailors, barnacles and devastators spawn

[daring cloak]

Yeah the chance is very low at like 1-2% per stage

[carmine adder]

I played this game for over 300+ hours and I never seen a family event

[trim quiver]

hey i just did the prismatic trial today for mercenary's ethereal challenge and managed to do it no hit but it didn't give my the achievement for it does anybody have any idea why

[raven horizon]

whats the best character for new players?

[crisp timber]

I’d say commando or huntress

They’re the beginner characters for a reason. They’re the simplest

[raven horizon]

i have played RORR and used commando and huntress (preferred huntress), and ive tried a single game with bandit and MUL-T, and i like multi. I have also played as huntress a few times

I have MUL-T and Bandit unlocked, out of those 4 are commando and huntress still the best? I have about 5 hours on ROR2

[crisp timber]

Out of those 4, I’d probably rate bandit “best”, then huntress, then mulT, then commando. But frankly speaking, it’s more about playstyle comfort than relative power

The power difference really isn’t particularly noticeable unless you’re doing like, eclipse runs imo

If you enjoy mulT, play mulT.

They’re all relatively straightforward characters that don’t have the weird quirks of like, Acrid or Artificer

[lavish jacinth]

are you sure you didn't just get hit and didn't notice?

[trim quiver]

yeah, the stats page at the end said i took 0 damage i took a picture of it

[lavish jacinth]

oh, huh

are you on console by any chance?

[trim quiver]

no im on pc

[lavish jacinth]

hmm, there's a bug atm with achievements not registering but it seems to mostly only happen on console afaik

[lavish jacinth]

well the good news is that if you don't feel like doing it again you could just use the realercheatunlocks mod to force the unlock

[trim quiver]

no ill just do it again

artifact of glass doesnt make it impossible right?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[harsh crypt]

yo, does attack speed affect how many times Chef's Sear (base right click ability) can hit enemies?

[lavish jacinth]

yes

[woven sigil]

lets say if you are playing huntress and if you turn into heretic and finish monsoon do you get a secret survior page or do you just unlock the huntress survior page

[high forum]

You'll get the Heretic's logbook!

[carmine adder]

Heretic is awesome

[kindred herald]

btw i remember hearing forever ago that spawn credits build up while youre in the entrance of commencement, like when youre in the lemurian cave on aa
is that true?>

[cinder pasture]

im struggling with monsoon seeker, im full clearing and around stage 3 i just dont deal enough damage, what loadouts are people using?

[mellow crystal]

1211 is kind of just the most busted loadout overall but 1122, 1212, and 1221 are also really good

[cinder pasture]

while using merc with blind and rising thunder and evis. is there point of doing the tech if it cant get the proc from focused assasult?

[mellow crystal]

Yes because it still allows you to trigger expose on your next dash

While it won't reduce blinding's cooldown until the final dash, it will reduce the cooldown of your other skills which allows for more comboing, especially with swinds

[cinder pasture]

besides that tech is there another worth learning. im pretty sure the one where you dash down into them doesnt really work anymore. at least it is not consistent

[mellow crystal]

iirc using whirlwind while hitting an enemy with blinding assault cancels the dash so you can stop right on top of the enemy
Not sure if it works for uppercut

[cinder pasture]

(using rising thunder) m2 and utility at the same time caused both cooldowns but not movment

yeah didnt work with an enemy though. i think rising thunder is just better for staying in the air more

[mellow crystal]

That's all the merc tech I'm aware of then
Aside from trimping which also doesn't apply to uppercut 😭

[cinder pasture]

trimping? whats that?
mk1 launcher or the void version

[clear whale]

uhhhh

while sprinting to a cliff, press m2 to trimp

works with default m2

[mellow crystal]

Some skills that give you a sudden horizontal boost, like whirlwind, can send you really high up if you use them on a slope or steep incline

[cinder pasture]

so just correctional z clipping

can you do that with wax quail?

[mellow crystal]

With wax quail and headstompers yea

Idk about quail by itself

[north zinc]

Not entirely, unless you combine it with raw momentum from an character ability, like mercs spiny thingy.

[north zinc]

Usually a lot of gas and ignition if you wanna be op. On that topic, trimcon and and arti, but ya know.
So instead, to get the ignition started take some voidsent flame, also known the void version of willowisp.
Now if you want fun, just whatever your heart desires.

Sorry 😅
Just grab what you think Is fun

[crisp timber]

speed, then just like, proc items

ATG, crit, sticky bombs, uke

[cinder pasture]

what should false son load out be.
are alt secondary damage boost worth half the ammo?
and is the single teleport better than the double dash.

i only use his alt special it is just cooler and instant dps compared to charge

[crisp timber]

alt secondary is better. the stakes can actually deal damage three times since they also make an explosion where they hit the ground

[cinder pasture]

is utility just preference then?

[crisp timber]

imo dash is better than will, but mainly it is just preference

[cinder pasture]

how do you use it?

[crisp timber]

dash is a more reliable fall cancel and gets you out of sticky situations easier

[crisp timber]

how do you use the alt util?

[cinder pasture]

when i am in danager i just teleport up or down to another level. like in distant roots i go up a floor

[crisp timber]

yeah that's fine

just the fact you have two of them is mainly what I prefer

[cinder pasture]

fair

[crisp timber]

technically, if you have enough growth, will's buff can become pseudo-permanent by extending longer than the cooldown duration

but idk if you're going to be looping or taking enough stone flux to make that happen

[cinder pasture]

ill mostly be using it for multiplayer then

just to get rid of the slow travel time so my team mates dont wish ide die at the start of each round

[crisp timber]

Have you been playing rainstorm or drizzle before

You’ll be taking like twice as much damage

You likely won’t

[mellow crystal]

Funnily enough that's the opposite of what I'd usually recommend for will
Usually I use it aggressively since the tripled growth buffs allow you to either beat the shit out of enemies faster or not care about the damage they deal
The fact that it pulls and stuns helps a lot with aggressive play too

[trim lynx]

same

[mellow crystal]

Step and will to me are like roll and oil spill
Step/roll is more versatile and mainly used for either traversal, getting in and out, or weaving damage
Will/spill is focused more on raw combat power with less traversal mobility but still enough to be nice to have out of combat

Also hellon

Yeahhh 😭

[trim lynx]

they get more expensive each stage

[trim lynx]

more steep time scaling

[cobalt quiver]

is warped echo negating the eclipse 8 penalty a bug or intended?

[marble magnet]

Is Rising Thunder like

Worth using over whirlwind?

[glacial knoll]

it's a bug

[sweet hedge]

Is there a meridian base on the 3rd lock?

[marble magnet]

What does proc mean? I genuinely don't know

Like I know it's something for how many times something activates but

[steady stone]

if an atg comes from your bullet, it "procced"

"proc coeff" refers to the multiplier for these chances

[lavish jacinth]

It's short for programmed occurrence, in the context of ror2 it basically just refers to an item that activates under a certain condition, usually a random chance on hit

[steady stone]

horrible abbreviation imo, but

oh yeah, is the cost of a chest actually affected by time? im struggling to find the formula on the chests/directors page

[old basin]

What would be the best gold item to have for Commando

[steady stone]

or maybe with crit and low tritips

[old basin]

Okay thanks

[lavish jacinth]

It is, I dunno what the formula is though

[steady stone]

i found a formula saying it was just multiplied by like just the coeff and stage, but i thought that couldnt be correct

[lavish jacinth]

If you want, they're both good

[steady stone]

moneyCost=baseCost×coeff1.25

but that literally just doesnt make sense, it doesnt even take stage into account
just the player coeff

(from the difficulty page, of the .gg)

[glacial knoll]

difficultyCoeff isn't just players

[steady stone]

ahh, that's what i was missing
a ctrl f for coeff found me this, thanks

[marble magnet]

Ah oki

[devout lichen]

command disenablles them

[slim spoke]

skill issue

bro's scared of having void pets

[quasi topaz]

Command disables anything that can get rid of individual items (except for soups), like scrappers and cleansing pools. When you have command the game assumes you actually want every item you pick up

[slim spoke]

mann up lady

[quasi topaz]

Just wait until void family event

[steady stone]

Family events are special events that can happen that limit stage pools to certain enemy types, one of those (post loop only) is void enemies

[quasi topaz]

That and the chimera events are the easiest to die to imo

[steady stone]

any time after stage 5, with sotv dlc

[steady stone]

me on the way to go cry in a corner when "The bulwark begins to falter..."

[quasi topaz]

17 chimera wisps on there way to you from every angle

[quasi topaz]

If its stuttering and slowing down it can be related to textures not loading properly. It can also be related to the fact you're using a wireless sound device. Try reducing your graphics settings and/or switching your output audio device to a wired one

Ik. I play on laptop and the issue you're describing matches what happens in some games on my end

If the video is visually lagging then its a software issue. Otherwise its a hardware issue

Your output device might just be shot

Probably

Call customer support for your device and they may be able to help you without you spending money

All they do is listen to your issue and remote into your device if necessary

Not like they're gonna log your ip and find where you live

[fierce bluff]

Does clover cancel out purity or is it that you have either a little negative or a little positive luck?

[quasi topaz]

Yes they cancel each other out

Ror2 calculations are multiplicative so it doesn't matter what goes first

[fierce bluff]

Not good

[quasi topaz]

Sometimes devices either need a restart or they need to cool down

Or both

Make sure to monitor your cpu and gpu temp, anything above 80c is really bad

[pearl cloud]

MSI afterburner

@wraith rapids i'm gonna finish my run later today, i have smth to do rn (wrong channel oops)

[quasi topaz]

For GPU I use my task manager but for CPU you would need to download an external program

Or look in your system bios or uefi

[pearl cloud]

Just download MSI afterburner dude

Look it up

It's used to check temps

[wraith rapids]

Goodluck

[pearl cloud]

Scurger

Not the channel to do this

[glacial knoll]

does e8 curse shrink false sons

[quasi topaz]

I don't think it reduces the effect of growth if thats what you meant

[marble osprey]

It doesn't, did E8 false son a bit ago and was kinda worried that would happen so I was paying attention lol

[pale bramble]

What are these two empty log entries?

[hoary sedge]

the sots bulwarks ambry variants

[analog cape]

is there any way i can stop my lemurians from dying in the lava from the helminth hatchery when i use artifact of devotion? i know i can use newt to choose the map but im pretty sure that theres still a chance that sky meadow could be replaced by the aurelionite stage in the stage selection area

[lavish jacinth]

I don't really think there is besides giving them repulsion plates and tougher times to help mitigate the damage, they have the survival instincts of a toddler

[analog cape]

i know, they will dive face first off a cliff or into lava at the first chance they get ;-;

[lavish jacinth]

and tbf they're also really good at falling off the map in sky meadows so it's not much better there lol

[analog cape]

yeahhhhhhhh

ill try some damage reduction items

hopefully i can find a printer or something

[lavish jacinth]

you don't really need one, they gain extra stacks of their items when they evolve

[analog cape]

wait fr?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[analog cape]

sweet

ok well im gonna go test some damage reduction items on rainstorm ill let ya know how it goes

[inner verge]

Does doing rebirth at Prime Meridian in the DLC also count as beating the game for the mastery achievements if I do it on Monsoon?

[lavish jacinth]

yes iirc

[analog cape]

my elder lemurian just grew up and got the perfected elite type, i didnt even know that was possible but its going good so far

AND MY OTHER ONE JUST GOT IT TOO

they all got infected by the void infestor and murdered me. RIP good run

[woven sigil]

if you finish monsoon on heretic do you get the original characters monsoon skin

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[scenic acorn]

quick question. my risk of rain keeps getting stick at 99 percent when I try and load it up. Has anyone else had a problem like this? If so, how did you fix it?

[fallen bridge]

sounds like a mod issue? try looking through logs for errors

[scenic acorn]

okay thanks

[onyx plume]

i heard theres a bug with seeker alt special and wondering has it been fixed yet?

[hoary sedge]

if youre talking about it not critting or scaling with your level then yes thats been fixed

which unfortunately still doesnt make it worth using over post-buff meditate

[onyx plume]

so for e8, best loadout would be 221?

balls tornado and meditate?

[hoary sedge]

secondary is dealers choice with reprieve but yeah

[onyx plume]

can i get some advice on tornado usage

alt utility

[hoary sedge]

like what part of it

[onyx plume]

my friend was a sojourn enjoyer and he had to transition to alt utility

[hoary sedge]

bc in combat its pretty simple, just fly as much as you can get away with and put it where there's likely to be a lot of enemies

[onyx plume]

cuz of eclipse but i think he is keep flying into enemies

[hoary sedge]

yeah dont directly fly into enemies with it hit the ground next to them

[onyx plume]

ah okok, idk her kit much but ill give the words out

[hoary sedge]

for map traversal dont forget that meditate gives you barrier so you can fly for longer if you pop that first, even out of combat

[onyx plume]

meditate into fly?

[hoary sedge]

ye

[onyx plume]

also my friend is convinced seeker is sorta weak without sojourn...

[hoary sedge]

she is uh

wrong

[onyx plume]

can't decide how to itemize her after dropping sojourn

or what the general playstyle should be

[hoary sedge]

just get like a bit of barrier and any procs or flat damage increases

bandolier is really really good

[onyx plume]

so she becomes more proc-ier if not using sojourn

[hoary sedge]

the playstyle is literally just get max tranquility and nuke everything with meditate lmao. sometimes group stuff up with repreive for the m2 (its good for either)

[hoary sedge]

kinda? its..weird but proc items are usually good

maybe dont do like bleed but the rest are good

[onyx plume]

im sorry for asking too much questions lol

[hoary sedge]

i mean thats what the channels for lol

[onyx plume]

we are just kinda clueless on how to itemize with seeker+false son duo

i mean those characters are super busted but we want to minmax performance

by choosing correct items for each

[hoary sedge]

honestly both characters are so unbelievably strong at base that itemization doesnt matter much

its really only the obvious max hp items go to fs, cooldown reducers go to seeker

[onyx plume]

duly noted

thank you so much for all these tips

[hoary sedge]

yeah ofc

[onyx plume]

we are gonna try e7 today hope it goes well 😂

[hoary sedge]

gl lol

oh also one last thing, seeker is a really good light flux user bc her strongest abilities aren't really affected by attack speed

[sonic valve]

Do the geodes for the path of the colossus always spawn if you haven't defeated false son? We've broken two of the geodes and we can;'t find the third one so is there just a chance it didn't spawn?

[onyx plume]

just one thing about seeker and barrier items,

shield doens't count right?

[sonic valve]

ok never mind we found it

[lavish jacinth]

to answer your question anyway, they'll always spawn as long as you're on a valid stage and haven't visited path of the colossus yet, and there will always be 3 of them in semi-random locations

[lavish jacinth]

barrier isn't shield, so no

[onyx plume]

also i just got stage 1 map with no halcyon shrine

is this even possible wtf

[lavish jacinth]

they're not guaranteed, just very common

[wicked mango]

Why are there no games in multi-player? Even if I have cross-platform on/off

[mellow crystal]

Either you have a mod on that every player needs to have on, or public lobbies are just not being run by people rn
Or steam servers are dying

[wicked mango]

Prob just steam servers

[high forum]

most people run private games

[timber nebula]

so i just got to stage 21 and i dont see a teleporter is that a bug?

[dusky raven]

Does the current objective say to find the teleporter?

[brittle shuttle]

Teleporter is always there

[timber nebula]

yeah i never found it tho

[dusky raven]

Was it on distant roost, because there’s always a chance it was hidden in that lower section on the island

[steady stone]

if chests are spawning, the teleporter is too
the scenarios where teleporters don't spawn are director failures where NOTHING spawns

which, is basically always a mod issue (stageaesthetics)

[timber nebula]

i dont mod i saw chests but no teleporter

[steady stone]

yeah, I'd say you probably just didn't find it then, not a bug
it emits red (blue on stage 5) particles around it, that help for finding it

or, the opposite of emit, the particles go towards it

[timber nebula]

the stage was distant roots ive played it a fair number of times i dont think i missed it i think it was just not there

[brittle shuttle]

Its always there

Its never not there

Shrimply didnt look hard enough

[crisp timber]

it was definitely the lower section of the island

[timber nebula]

ok i guess this game cant have bugs my bad

[mellow crystal]

To be fair I'm pretty sure the teleporter only spawns on specific nodes and is practically hardcoded to spawn

The tp not spawning on a stage would be like pressing the Primary key not firing your primary fire

[timber nebula]

yes having specific nodes means i should have found it no problem i didnt see it in any of the places ive ever found it

ppl on here are extremely unhelpful its kinda crazy

[peak holly]

What a reversal

[left trellis]

the game has been known to occasionally bug out and not spawn interactibles, but if you were seeing interactibles and the objectives list said "Find the teleporter" then that means it was there

the objectives list only populates with that objective if the teleporter exists

[peak holly]

They already left lmao

[left trellis]

oh lol.

[brave cedar]

Do you get the mastery skin for completing eclipse or only on monsoon?

[brittle shuttle]

Nothing is locked behind eclipse

Unless youre asking “do i get unlocks on eclipse”

No? But idk i know you dont unlock survivor logs on eclipse

[brave cedar]

Oh ic

Well it's probably better to familiarize myself with the chars first

[mellow crystal]

Honestly eclipse 1 and monsoon are kinda just the same difficulty since e1 is literally just "monsoon but you start the stage at half health"

Not half max health, you literally just have 55/110 (or whatever your HP currently is) hp at the start of the stage

[brave cedar]

Ik, which is why I wanted to just start on eclipse for the survivors I haven't played much yet to save time. But I also want the mastery skins, which is why I asked here

I already have e1 on railgunner

[mellow crystal]

I believe eclipse does grant masteries since that's how I got commando mastery

[brave cedar]

I see. Thanks!

[frosty hemlock]

anyone know the best way to get void items?

or do they only come from the voud seeds🥲

[steady stone]

void cradles can spawn without void seeds, but theyre common in void seeds too

[frosty hemlock]

do they come from anywhere else or nah

[steady stone]

encrusted key, but that means you need them first

you should get a good 2-4 void items if youre full looting throughout a run

[frosty hemlock]

damn most of the time I only find 1 or 2 sometimes none

ima try n be a lil rat my next run and see if I get any more thanks for the help🐱

[fierce bluff]

Why did developers stop adding perfected elite halos on survivors w/ it after some time?

[lavish jacinth]

they didn't? all of the new survivors get halos

[fierce bluff]

No, at least chef doesn't from what I remember, seeker prolly too

[fierce bluff]

Oh okay, seekers halo isn't in the right place tho

[honest badger]

chef is hilarious

[lavish jacinth]

the only survivors missing a halo are bandit and heretic for some reason

[honest badger]

bandit is a bitch and heretic is a revenant

[lavish jacinth]

probably on purpose tbh

[fierce bluff]

Heretic deserved it for being overrated

[lavish jacinth]

Acrid and huntress also get unique halo positions (it's hard to see on huntress but she has two tiny ones, one in front of each eye)

[lavish jacinth]

heretic doesn't have item displays in general so none of the aspect stuff shows up on her, but I guess bandit really is just a bitch lmao

[scenic heron]

Does anyone know if the environment logs for the night versions of stages are still bugged?

[cunning jay]

is it just me or aegis gets less effective the more personal shield generator you have? if so why does this happen?

[lavish jacinth]

it's not just you, barrier decays at a rate of 3.33% of your max health per second, including shield

[lavish jacinth]

iirc they fixed disturbed impact but treeborn and dieback are bugged

[cunning jay]

so basically the personal shield generator makes aegis actively worse?

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much, yet another reason aegis sucks lol

[cunning jay]

what are the other reasons ?

[lavish jacinth]

it takes an excessive amount of healing to keep it active just for an effect that's sorta okay, and that item investment would be better spent on damage or speed, or more reliable defense items

it's only really good for engineer since bungus turrets heal constantly and it only takes 2-3 stacks of bungus to overcome barrier decay, although they still gain barrier pretty slowly until you get more

[cunning jay]

how do you know so much about the game?

[lavish jacinth]

autism

also 1000+ hours of playtime, I hang out in this channel a lot, and just generally I like learning about game mechanics lol

[glacial knoll]

it's weird how much aegis can pop off with on hits but if you have those on hits everythings dying anyways

[cunning jay]

i have those 2 things too

and i know less than you

[lavish jacinth]

yeah that's the other thing, by the time you get aegis up and running, you either don't need it or enemies are doing so much damage that the barrier barely helps

it's not unusable but it really doesn't compete with other red items

unless you get a run like this where the game just says "fuck you, you WILL use this aegis"
(I still don't think I ended up using it at all lol)

[lavish jacinth]

that's probably a good thing honestly lol

[daring cloak]

True lmao

[lavish jacinth]

I don't mind becoming a human wiki for games I enjoy but someday I'm gonna forget my grandchildren's names because they've been overwritten with knowledge about proc coefficients or something

[glacial knoll]

kid named proc coefficient

[daring cloak]

Cool

[woven sigil]

in the gilded coast i found a chest even though im playing on artifact of sacrifice?

[kindred herald]

Sacrifice doesn’t override guaranteed spawns like the legendary chests in Abyssal Depths and Sundered Grove, or the four chests in gilded coast

[tender temple]

the halo is actually just under his hat

[fierce bluff]

Have you beaten E8 on all characters?

[fallen bridge]

i don't know of anyone w/ 1000+ hrs who hasn't

[fierce bluff]

There's a lot of people who don't play eclipse at all

[lavish jacinth]

I was never really into eclipse but I did it for most of them a while ago, although when sotv came out it wiped all of my eclipse progress and I never cared to do it again lol

most of my hours were also during quarantine when I had nothing else to do, I don't play nearly as often as I used to

[humble kiln]

why do people go saw+nail gun mult instead of rebar+nail gun since it also decreases spread. is chainsaw 0 spread just that much better to give up the long range of rebar?

power mode ofc

[glacial knoll]

because youtuber told them funny trick really

it's not that good

[fierce bluff]

Sad

[humble kiln]

aight

[lavish jacinth]

rebar does have hidden recoil after each shot that affects the nailgun, and rebar itself has low overall dps

[glacial knoll]

Like two rebar or two nail gun is just better

[lavish jacinth]

imo scrap + nail is better if you want a middle ground

[humble kiln]

k thx.

probably gonna stick to double nail gun then

[peak jacinth]

it’s actually quite good if you use it right I find

it’s probably a bit overrated, but it’s definitely good

you have to actually be making full use of both primaries, which many players don’t and won’t do

[glacial knoll]

I assumed most people wouldn't use both saw and nailgun yeah

I guess that could actually be a fine silly build, double saw loses all range but this keeps it

[kindred herald]

It’s a fun build

[peak jacinth]

yea it has less procs and damage than double saw against bosses but you can keep the range for particular enemies like flying enemies which is really nice

not the be all end all of PM builds tho, like some would suggest

[woven sigil]

i played a game on mercenary on monsoon and my computer crashed mid game and when we finished i reconnected btw i didnt get the skin and it isnt and my run history how do i show proof for my skin?

[fallen bridge]

since you're on pc you could use a mod like realercheatunlocks to give yourself the skin, but other than that you just need to beat monsoon again ...

[humble kiln]

does tranquility on seeker increase damage of the primary third explosive hit by 50% or 6,67%. seeing conflicting info on wiki.gg

[high forum]

show proof? you either completed the run or you didn't

since your computer crashed, you'll have to actually complete a run on monsoon for the skin

[stark bolt]

Do you know which of Railgunners Railguns is better? my Brother says the Marksman style thingy is better, but I think the normal one is better

[hoary sedge]

sniper is usually better imo

mainly bc you can transfer the perfect reload bonus to both overcharges

and it just works better than marksman with crowbar and bands, which are the big items you want on railgunner anyway

marksman isn't bad by any means tho

[stark bolt]

huh

[lavish jacinth]

default is better on average, its got significantly more dps if you consistently hit headshots and perfect reloads and doesn't require staying scoped for long periods of time. But both are good enough that there isn't really a wrong choice

[stark bolt]

my brother said marksman is better, because higher firerate, and works better with proc stuff, the latter of which i didnt buy

[hoary sedge]

eh it's weird, you do get more procs but they're much weaker

[lavish jacinth]

it'll proc stuff more often, but almost all procs do a % of the hit that procced them, so fire rate isn't quite as important as overall dps and proc coefficient

[stark bolt]

thank you very much^^

[quasi topaz]

Up to preference really. I use alt secondary because it feels more fluid even with the lower damage

[stark bolt]

and the sniper is just so satisfying to reload

[dull flicker]

Dose anyone have false son or can help me get him its begging to drive me crazy

[quasi topaz]

Just go drizzle command if you're getting desperate

Otherwise go to #lfg-pc-ror2 if you want to do it via multiplayer

[dull flicker]

Im on ps5

[lavish jacinth]

#lfg-playstation-ror2

[quasi topaz]

#lfg-playstation-ror2

[dull flicker]

Ok

[lavish jacinth]

or if you just need advice then we can help, but drizzle+command will make it pretty much free

[dull flicker]

I dont have command

[quasi topaz]

Unlock it by going to the artifact portal in helminth or sky meadows and inputting the corresponding code

And pass the bulwarks ambry

[lavish jacinth]

even without it, drizzle will make it easy

is there a specific part of the unlock that you're having trouble with?

[dull flicker]

Start to finish i know I need to get to the other boss and get its heart then kill false si to unlock him but start to finish i get have trouble getting it to all work out

[crisp timber]

you looping?

[lavish jacinth]

something that helps a lot is going to the bazaar each stage, there's a chance for gilded coast to appear in lunar seers and it's generally a lot more consistent than waiting for a gold shrine

[crisp timber]

stage 8.5 false son is relatively easier than stage 3.5 false son

[lavish jacinth]

once you've got halcyon seed, a green portal can appear inside gilded coast if you're on stage 1-3 of the current loop, but if not then there are 3 gold geodes hidden in the bazaar that you can break to make a green portal spawn. But they'll only appear if you haven't used a green portal yet on that run and are on a valid stage

also yeah, looping helps and will probably be required unless you get really lucky with portal spawns

[wispy hinge]

Whats the best ability loadout for commando

[wicked saddle]

does rebirth count towards logbook?

[fallen bridge]

the alt utility is just better but the other skills are more preference, default secondary & alt special offer aoe & a way to proc bands, but alt secondary & default special are more consistent at singletarget - plus suppressive's stun is nice on scary enemies

[lavish jacinth]

is commando's best special

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure it does

[sour fractal]

@primal mist btw i wanna thank you for crossing out my deprecated guide instead of deleting the link bc i wanted to access the link again to re-investigate the issue and i would have been so devastated if it was deleted LMAO

[primal mist]

I have been summoned
Anyways no problem

[sour fractal]

i was trying to ensure that something like this wouldn’t happen again but to my surprise multiple sources are saying that google docs cannot simply disappear/be autodeleted

so i’m gonna try and figure out why this happened

[primal mist]

Aight

For now, I return to my slumber until the next RoR2 or RoRR question

But before I go

[primal mist]

There's not really a preference if going for objective best
It's just Double Tap, Phase Blast, Tactical Slide, Frag Grenade

[sour fractal]

^seconding this

[primal mist]

Phase Blasts's damage and proc rate is generally better, especially given that close range in general is better anyhow

And Frag Grenade is yes, Commando's main method of band procs, but it's also just higher DPS

[sour fractal]

it’s not hard to hit mid-range enemies with phase blast

[primal mist]

I'm not sure if it was changed, someone who has been more up to date in RoR2 optimization could answer that math, but I don't believe the issues of Suppressive Fire legit being a DPS downgrade over continue to hold mouse 1 was fixed

[sour fractal]

and phase round isn’t much better at hitting far enemies

although if you are not good at or hate frag grenades then don’t force yourself lol

they can be bastards

[primal mist]

Yeah
Play what you want, but objectively speaking frags are the better choice

Now if we include Heresy items in the mix, obviously Hooks and Essence

[sour fractal]

actually i remember hifu co-owned that google doc

fade do you remember what hifu’s actual tag was?

[fallen bridge]

in terms of dps yah definitely, but an on-demand + crowd control stun is still pretty good

[primal mist]

hifuwu

[primal mist]

The actual crowd control isn't really there since you have to spread out your shots, and the stun itself is pretty minor

[sour fractal]

you’re the goat

[primal mist]

If I recall from the math done
Double Tap + 1 or 2 stun grenades has more or less equivalent effects

Without being on a 9 second cooldown and opening up the slot

I could be off since I haven't kept up with RoR2 optimization post-Seekers but I see little changes for this particular case

Brief stuns also just aren't as valuable as some people think imo
The AI hasn't changed that much, and staying close + circle strafing still kinda just
Lets you breeze a lot

It's in your better interest to maximize your DPS and proc rates generally (hence why Arti's optimal loadout for example is generally her default one, exacerbated by Ignition Tank)

[sour fractal]

what are we thinkin for optimal mul-t loadouts?

let's say it's e8

[fallen bridge]

double ng is pretty breezy esp w/ nailboosting

[primal mist]

I don't think they've changed that much?
You can still do classic rebar rebar, there's double scrap, there's double nailgun

Was Saw/Nail ever patched?

[lavish jacinth]

Suppressive fire was briefly pretty good due to a bug that allowed stuns to stack, but that was fixed so it's back to being mid lol

[sour fractal]

yeah it’s just been so long since i’ve played that i forgot fuckin everything

[primal mist]

Cool, Saw/Nail is also still there

Then Retool's useful loadouts are ever-present

Rebar/Nail, Rebar/Saw, Scrap/Nail, Scrap/Saw, etc.

[sour fractal]

in order, is that [retool] rebar rebar, [power mode] douvle scrap, [power mode] double nail?

[primal mist]

No that's not in order

[sour fractal]

no no i mean

[primal mist]

Oh wait

[sour fractal]

are those all power mode loadouts?

[primal mist]

Yeah, that's correct

[primal mist]

Shame, it should've stayed for Supp

I recall there was a guy here who ran only defaultmando
Their gameplay was something else because of defaultmando just
Not being very good

[fallen bridge]

ac maybe

[primal mist]

Anyways
Now back to slumbering I go
Ping me if ya got RoR2 or Returns questions lol

[cinder pasture]

whta is the best way to deal with clay dunester as merc? is it just run away during the life leeching?

[signal shore]

does the 57 leaf clover affect sacrifice

[steady stone]

No, it's unaffected by luck

[steady stone]

Use your dash to get out of range, and I'm like 99% sure they can't reattach to you if my memory serves

Until they use the attack again, that is

[cinder pasture]

is crowbar any good on merc?

[steady stone]

not generally, he's constantly attacking
fcrystal and watch are gonna get more value

it might be able to have a bit of value on the big dash, but his other attacks are rapid fire

[cinder pasture]

f crystal or lens maker's from shop? 1 f crystal and 0 lens maker's

[steady stone]

If it's early, taking and building crit will help later with ATG procs and the like

[cinder pasture]

is the corrupted version of atg better?

[steady stone]

the proc coeff on the special is incredible, so i'd say default ATG has better synergy to lead into devastating proc chains

[cinder pasture]

fair

[steady stone]

whereas the damage itself is rather mediocre

plimp does have a very weird niche case though, as it procs your own expose to help with cooldown management, especially with swinds

[cinder pasture]

theres a console menu?

[steady stone]

yeah, but commands are disabled without DebugToolKit

[cinder pasture]

that a mod?

[steady stone]

mhm

[cinder pasture]

can it tell me informatino

[steady stone]

like stats? that would be a job for LookingGlass

[cinder pasture]

not player stats

[steady stone]

like what, then? the only information command i can think of off the top of my head is the Ping command for your multiplayer ping

there's a loootta stats in this game

[cinder pasture]

stuff that effect enemies and stages

[steady stone]

well the timer and level are given to you already, but debug does let you manually set time elapsed and stages elapsed

enemies arent affected by too much, but for stages youd be better off visiting the wiki

it's mostly math and stuff for the directors

[cinder pasture]

are the directors the only things that effect the map generation?

[steady stone]

yeah, there's like a billion directors tho

you'd be lookin for the stage director for most generation

err, scene director

[cinder pasture]

that sounds helpful, thank you

[steady stone]

with some outliers, like the camp director for void stuff

there's a whole wiki.gg page for directors, but it's an entire book

not too important info for runs tho, i.e. it wont really make you any better for understanding it

[glacial knoll]

DebugToolkit has various list_ commands to dump some infos

or dump_inventory for like what items every monster on the stage has

Almost all commands are custom the devs dont have fancy stuff like this

[fierce bluff]

What's plimp

[steady stone]

[analog brook]

HELLO???????

Why do you have that as a gif???????

[livid wedge]

It's comfy and easy to wear

[trim lynx]

HI!!!!

[marble magnet]

Is there like character sheets for the characters?

Like uh references for drawing and stuff

Official sheets of characters y'know

[mellow crystal]

as in like
d&d-esque or OC character sheets
or

[marble magnet]

I think that's what they are called

I think so

I'll get a example hang on

[steady stone]

like these?

[marble magnet]

Yess

Stuff like this but ya

[mellow crystal]

ohhh that
i'm not sure actually

[steady stone]

i found this, but from the fandom
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Concept_Art_Images

[marble magnet]

THANK YOU :3

[steady stone]

it doesnt have every character i dont think? but it's a lot of general stuff

[marble magnet]

Ight

I just like drawing characters so it's nice to have official renders that aren't just the dark character selection menu

[analog brook]

Wth where did they even post these

[steady stone]

it's clearly not all of them either

im sure you could scrub all the dev diaries and every post from the team for a lot more

[marble magnet]

It'd be cool if there was a website storing the old stuff

I know there were old Dev logs of the game being made

Ill see if I can find the site

[steady stone]

they're all posted on steam i believe

[marble magnet]

Ah

[steady stone]

what the fuck is this patch

[marble magnet]

I know there's some helpful sketchfab models ripped from the game but

Far and few they are
.thanks anyway though :3 I like drawing the characters and it's nice having official sources

I could use the logbook but im.lazy

[marble magnet]

UES contact light chests dropping onto petrichor am I right

[steady stone]

you could use debugtoolkit, disable enemy spawns, go to the test plains, spawn as anything in the game

[marble magnet]

Console player...

;W;

[steady stone]

that's how i got my reference photos

[steady stone]

ahh, unfortunate...

[marble magnet]

Ikr

It's fine though I'll manage

Tbh I wish the logbook wasn't as bad as it is

Half the time you cant zoom out fully to see a character it sucks

[analog brook]

This was when they added those fuck ass meteors to the sky

[steady stone]

the sky meadow ones?

I don't play this game

It's like minecraft, I had a two week phase to come back and that's about it

[fierce bluff]

First one is beautiful

[analog brook]

They were on every map in the game

[steady stone]

ah, was it a sots teaser?

[analog brook]

https://youtu.be/97x_biXIgpQ?si=eKTr9H03Y3O-oiyp

[analog brook]

Uhm.............. Maybe!!!!!!!!

It never went anywhere!!!!!! It just disappeared

We literally. Do not know!

[steady stone]

cant be sure if theyre being schizo youtube baiters with all the dlc2 talk or not

[analog brook]

The internal names of them was like "we did not forget you"

But like????????????????? Nobody knows wtf they meant

[quasi topaz]

Free skin bc ror2 did a dead cells collab

They collaborated with the game dead cells at some point

[tender temple]

umm actually it was suble foreshadowing to false son's survivor spawn anim

[quasi topaz]

I think you can still buy the ror2 dead cells bundle

[tender temple]

the meteors were just all giant false sons moving towards the planet

[marble magnet]

Is voidsent good

I know it depends and bla bla bla but

Which is usually better

[quasi topaz]

Voidsent flame is usually always better than wil-o-wisp

[mellow crystal]

they're kinda interchangeable imo
both are good against swarms but bad against bosses

voidsent is a lot easier to trigger immediately tho

[quasi topaz]

And more potent with crowbars

[lavish jacinth]

Willowisp is obviously better if you're using though ofc

But otherwise yeah, usually you might as well just take voidsent

[mellow crystal]

i like voidsent the most when i'm playing someone like commando or huntress who has to focus fire wisps for a quick sec to kill them (assuming you don't use huntress m2 for some reason)

[marble magnet]

Oki

I just needed to know

Thanks chat

[mellow crystal]

ye

[marble magnet]

What

What does col drone man do?

[glacial knoll]

nothing

filler drone incase you dont have any drones

[marble magnet]

Oh

;W; I see I thought it was like

It buffed other drones or something

[lavish jacinth]

Spare drone parts already does that

It's kinda the whole point of the item lol

Droneman has slightly better stats than most drones but that's about it, it's just a freebie drone

[olive sapphire]

whats the best artificer loadout?

[lavish jacinth]

anything works, but if you want the easiest possible win then fire bolt, nanobomb, ion surge (secondary is kinda up to preference, spear helps if you struggle with Mithrix or FS but bomb works better with ion surge)

flamethrower is fun but hard to use and pretty underpowered

primaries are fairly equal until you get , then fire bolt is the clear winner

[lament veldt]

Firebolt? Nah nah all your skills should be blue as arti.

[lavish jacinth]

nah

[quasi topaz]

I think firebolt is always better due to the abilities doing the exact same base damage but firebolt has fire

Unless you want the aoe from plasma

[hoary sedge]

especially if you're running nano bomb bc your aoe is kinda already solved

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the aoe is the reason to use it

all you have to do is hit two enemies and the effective damage output is doubled, and those aoe hits can proc, unlike burn

[jade cosmos]

Everytime I play with someone their name is blank, how do I fix this? It's been happening for years now afaik. Their chat is just ':'

[lavish jacinth]

weird, #ror2-tech-support miiiight be able to help?
If you haven't already, you can try the usual easy fixes like turning off crossplay and verifying game files, and maybe check the ingame console (ctrl +alt + ~ to enable) when someone posts a message to see if there's any error there that might be a clue

[jade cosmos]

I'll check that out ty

[jade cosmos]

1 file failed to validate I guess lol. will I lose anything from uninstalling + reinstalling?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[jade cosmos]

okay

[glacial knoll]

1 file will always do that

[tropic rain]

Fellas, just to be sure, can others unlock False Son with you even if they didn't have the seed except you?

[fierce bluff]

NO

WRONG ANSWER SORRY

[tropic rain]

Lmao

[quasi topaz]

I believe aurelionite just has to be present

[tropic rain]

Yep

But like others should get it regardless of who had the seed, similar to REX unlock method except only the fuel array carrier would unlock it