ror2-game-questions

[lavish jacinth]

he's pretty good with either

I'd say if you already have a lot of tritip stacks, then stick with that

but if you don't have many and/or don't think you'll have a chance to get more, take needletick

[hoary hare]

i used recycler now its do i wanna take wungus or not

[lavish jacinth]

definitely not

[hoary hare]

ima be looping just wanna play with him

never rlly used him at all

[lavish jacinth]

viend doesn't want %-based healing items that are hard to control like wungus, they mess with his corruption

[hoary hare]

interesting playstyle fs

[hoary hare]

yeah i got the boss item from the dunestrider, ended up scrappin it

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, he's already got a built-in heal in his uncorrupt form, and he's tanky when corrupted

can be good tho, because you gain 2% corruption whenever you crit, which outweighs the loss from scythe

just don't stack too many

[hoary hare]

i have 2 of those atm

[lavish jacinth]

is also fine because regen doesn't count

[hoary hare]

i noticed that

[hoary hare]

if i get psg does that count towards shield?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[hoary hare]

and theoretically PSG would be good right? since i dont need to heal it just regen it

askin cuz i found a printer for it

[lavish jacinth]

the pink shield is just cosmetic, it's the same any normal shield

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's pretty good

especially with shrimp

[willow crescent]

Alright debate time, on the overall, which is superior? Marksman or Sniper? Including possibilities for all loadouts of items and skills on Railgunner, all periods of a given run, both early and late, falling behind and god run... My money is on Marksman.

[wispy hinge]

Whats the lunar ruind ebuff from

[mellow crystal]

M99 (default m2) most of the time
Marksman does actually work better with procs tho so if you can get a good proc loadout going then Marksman starts to beat it out

[willow crescent]

Interesting... I guess it's a skill issue then, It feels like Marksman is more efficient in a lot of cases.

sniper does big number but if I fall behind, Marksman at least is consistent.

[lavish jacinth]

The lightning on prime meridian, several of the False Son boss's attacks, twisted elites spike ball thing, and False son (the survivor) secondary

[hoary hare]

can you unlock artifacts in eclipse?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[wispy hinge]

I may be stupid

Kinda obvious the debuff is from LUNAR spike

[lavish jacinth]

Marksman is a little more flexible, but Sniper does considerably more dps if you're consistently hitting headshots and perfect reloads

[willow crescent]

i always nail reloads but I miss the crit shots on certain targets pretty consistently, namely wandering vagrant, Stone Titan, Grandparent, Blind Vermin and Magma Worm.

[lavish jacinth]

in that case yeah, it may just be skill issue

although in most cases you'd wanna use your special for big priority targets like that

you also can't rely on getting easy oneshots on later stages

[livid wedge]

Vagrant and magma worm are definitely annoying to crit

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[livid wedge]

What's this, you actually changed your pfp?

[lavish jacinth]

although even without crits, sniper still beats marksman for dps

[lavish jacinth]

the free nitro thing changed it back to my old server pfp, I forgot I even had this lol

[livid wedge]

lol

[wispy hinge]

I have 40 lunar spikes but protein heavy diet isnt completing on fs

[lavish jacinth]

you need 44, it doesn't count the 4 that you start with, or ones from backup mags

[livid wedge]

You need 44

If the challenge read additional 40, I think that'd probably clear a lot of those questiona

[wispy hinge]

Ahh

[lavish jacinth]

tbf it does say gain 40 spikes through growth, but yeah it's easy to misunderstand if you don't read it really carefully

[livid wedge]

Yeah, it's technically accurate

But so is additional and it's less likely to be misinterpreted

[wispy hinge]

Is the alt for lunar spikes better or worse?

[hoary hare]

how many pillars do i need to charge? ive always skipped them lol but i dont have head stomppers or a way to fly on fiend

[wispy hinge]

All of them

[livid wedge]

4

[hoary hare]

ty

[livid wedge]

Sometimes more than 4 will spawn but you only need to charge 4

[wispy hinge]

Ive never seen more than 4

[hoary hare]

i see like 6

[livid wedge]

Definitely more than 4 can spawn

[wispy hinge]

How many different pillars are there ik like 2 of them

[livid wedge]

I think it's 4-7

There are 4 different kinds

[wispy hinge]

Soul

[livid wedge]

Mass = boring normal, soul = shrinking, design = pile driver, blood = lifestealing

[wispy hinge]

Isnt there one that makes u take more damage?

Glass i think

[livid wedge]

The pile driver one gives you the cripple debuff, which reduces armor so you take more damage

[hoary hare]

lmfao NVM

[livid wedge]

If you get hit by the Shockwave

[wispy hinge]

Oo

[livid wedge]

Fun fact, I only realized last year you can jump over the Shockwaves

[wispy hinge]

I thought it jus goes in the shape of the dome

So u couldnt dodge

[livid wedge]

That's what I thought too

Nope, only affects you if you're on the ground when the shockwave happens

[wispy hinge]

Interesting

U think my game would crash if i got 10 clover, i.c.b.m and atg

[lavish jacinth]

if it's just those 3 things then probably not, but start adding more proc items then maybe

[wispy hinge]

Once u get these item its basicly guaranteed win

[wispy hinge]

Whats better lunar spike or stake?

[mellow crystal]

Spikes are much easier to use, but stakes have better potential in basically every aspect
Lunar ruin stacking, aoe, damage, skill synergy, and so on

if you are gonna be running stakes then it's best to run them with laser burst too

[wispy hinge]

And teleport is jus better no matter what right

[mellow crystal]

not necessarily but it does directly synergize with stakes so

[chilly mica]

How do i get more characters for now i only have huntress,bandit and commando

[lavish jacinth]

if you hover over a locked thing it'll tell you the conditions to unlock it

[chilly mica]

So like achievement?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[wispy hinge]

Do u unlock anything from the void fields

[daring cloak]

Beating void fields for the first time unlocks the survivor acrid

[wispy hinge]

Forgot i did void fields with my friend when i first started

[daring cloak]

Beating vields as mul-t past stage 7 unlocks his alt special

I thinkkkk thats the only two vields related unlocks

[wispy hinge]

Is the alt special good?

[daring cloak]

Yes

Its kinda a transformation where you take less damage and can use both of your primary weapons at the same time, at the cost of having less movement speed

[peak scaffold]

does this beat mythrix

[peak jacinth]

yes

[tribal ocean]

does anybody know if roll of pennies mess with the halcyon shrine activation and golems spawn rate? it happened to me twice, i have a mod that shows halcyon shrines % completion just like the TP, i wasn't looking at the % rate and suddenly it was fully charged. couldn't find anything in the bug reports, idek if its a bug

i 100% got hit during the halcyon shrine event so thats why i thought it could be due to roll of pennies

[placid rampart]

Did siren’s call get removed? I haven’t gotten it since the new dlc announcement

[daring cloak]

No they did not remove an entire stage from the game

[brittle shuttle]

unfortunately

[daring cloak]

patchnotes: sirens call has now been turned into dlc content of alloyed collective, pay up 🤑

[fallen bridge]

then i'd buy the dlc but always have it disabled ...

[frosty reef]

This made me remember about stadia grove

[wispy hinge]

If im playing multiplayer can the other person help me with gesture of the drowned

[daring cloak]

Yeah as long as the hermit crabs die from fall damage (which includes falling off the stage) it counts

[wispy hinge]

Thx

[vital ether]

are they ever gonna fix acrid's primary sprint cancel

[trim lynx]

nop

they buffed it a while back infact

[brittle shuttle]

why would they fix that

[hot imp]

does hellfire tincture have any synergy with transcendence by like doing no damage since you only have 1 max health or how does that work

[daring cloak]

Im fairly sure it counts shield too, and you'd want that

Tinctures damage is entirely based on your hp

This includes the damage the enemies take

So if it were to only deal 1 damage to you it'd also only deal very very little to the enemies

[hot imp]

ohhhh

so would damage reduction also reduce the outgoing damage

[fresh umbra]

Bugs-turned-features my beloved

[full apex]

no just what you take

the base damage is decided based on ur hp, your damage reduction only applies after it damages you. but, your damage increases also count, focus crystal and ignition tank will make it hurt you more

getting 2+ ignition tanks on tincture makes its damage absurd, but it also makes it absolutely melt you lmao. its nonlethal but you end up stuck at 1hp a lot, especially with permanent uptime via gesture or smth

[hoary lichen]

I went to fight False Son, had the halcyon seed and was pretty overpowered. Literally the first phase I’m hitting him, I dodge his attack and he starts sitting back up and I explode. Playing mercenary. Happened twice, not sure why it happened. He kinda flashed gold I guess? Does he have a counter attack if you have the halcyon seen or something? His normal attacks are super easy to dodge and it was literally first phase

He wasn’t even facing me, I just instantly died, twice thanks to dios

[brittle shuttle]

Do you have a clip

[foggy vessel]

if you go to false son with halcyon seed he spawns aurelionite to fight you in phase 3

the thing that seems closest to an instant kill would be aurelionites swords she spawns under you

also the damage she does is absurd too lol

u dont remember if its necessarily because she still has the +300% damage

[mellow crystal]

p sure that mostly happens because having multiple stacks of seed (including between different players in mp) increases her damage and health

[foggy vessel]

right

I forgot its easy to get a lot of halcyon seeds

[misty drum]

is bleed good on captain?

[dusky raven]

Very

The shotgun procs pretty well

Each pellet has something like 0.8

[lavish jacinth]

0.75 ☝️🤓

[safe vortex]

I’ve got a question if there’s anyone that can answer? I adore RoR, and have been playing for years, and since the first console dlc released, I’ve been curious, will the game just keep getting updates/dlc’s, or is there gonna be a third game releasing? Either way I’ll more than likely return countless times to this game, but it’s just something I’ve been wondering, what with all the other games I play announcing new games and such

[dusky raven]

I doubt there will ever be RoR 3, at least for a while

[brittle shuttle]

They kinda JUST announced a new dlc and they havent said anything about a new game but i imagine theyll keep on making ror2 the “main risky rain game” but have spinoffs here and there

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXaaA5yCXW8&pp=ygUSQWxsb3llZCBjb2xsZWN0aXZl0gcJCY0JAYcqIYzv

[safe vortex]

I see, I see. I know I was super excited for the mobile game, but when they cancelled it, I thought they were calling it with the franchise

[brittle shuttle]

Yeah no theres still plenty risk of rain to come

we still got years of support from gbx before theyre done with ror

[lyric meadow]

Trying to unlock Meridians Will right now but whenever I take a Halcyon Seed to Mithrix Aurelionite does not spawn for the fight, is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

[brittle shuttle]

Aurelionite spawns during phase 4

[lyric meadow]

ah! friendly i hope?

[brittle shuttle]

Yeah she only attacks pissrix

[hoary sedge]

oh god could you imagine if she was aggressive and you had to get her to friendly fire mithrix with chaos to get meridians will lmao

nightmare

[wispy hinge]

Which lunar item makes teleporter charge faster

[lavish jacinth]

[hearty shore]

how fast does seekers explosion increase in damage

[lavish jacinth]

+500% base damage per second

if you're trying to get that one unlock, there are tips for it in the pins

[steady stone]

To embed an image, grab a #roles
Personally I won't be clicking a mystery link lol

[left trellis]

evidently yes, somehow

[lavish jacinth]

thankfully link checkers exist

do you have a pirated copy of the game or something?

well then

enjoy the free dlc I guess lmao

[steady stone]

the only exception that does come to mind is prismatic trials having sots stuff
people kept saying to use the trails almost like a trial of the dlc since you could use those items

[lavish jacinth]

trials normally have everything unlocked except characters

[steady stone]

aaaaa
hold on, let me check the link then

oh, yeah that's, kinda bad?
if there is an extra info i think the devs would probably like that a lot

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's probably something the devs would want to know about, although I'm not even sure what info they would want here

[steady stone]

im thinking if there was somehow a way to send them like, the game location and data, but that would be unreasonable

other than that yeah, it would just be like anything you did that might've affected it

[lavish jacinth]

It might be related to the steamworks integration bug that's been happening to some people? Like, I assume the game looks at your steam account to check if you own the dlc or not, but if steam integration is fucked up then that check might also be broken

But I would think that if that were the case, the game would assume that you don't own the dlcs and lock dlc content

and usually that bug prevents the game from running at all so idk

[solemn wind]

Gift horses and mouths and all

Probably best to just take the free shit and have fun

[lavish jacinth]

I mean yeah, but I imagine the devs would still wanna know about it lol

[steady stone]

im sure it would come with it's own tree of bugs too, plus we need to know where to draw the line if we learn how to replicate it
piraters already get banned here tbf

[sullen venture]

im having the same problem and idk whats causing it, stages 4 and 5 the halcyon charges instantly and spawns like 20 golems

[sullen venture]

found whats causing it, its wolfos qol mod sadly

[steady stone]

if you get another instance and can get a clip, it might be nice to look into

ahh, unfortunate

[sullen venture]

so did a bit of testing and it charges faster the more time you are in a run? but only with the mod on

[wispy hinge]

Whats the best health item for fs???

[steady stone]

is like the "cheat" item since the speed loss is largely negated due to lunar spikes giving more speed when you use them, and stone flux giving more lunar spikes

[sudden hazel]

https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/klK88huK3jJELuuBB?invite=cr-MSx0VjQsMjcxODc1MzM4

[steady stone]

appreciated, but if it appears to be tracked to wolfoqol that should be all we need

[steady stone]

oh speaking of, im sure you know @glacial knoll but ill send this just incase

[wispy hinge]

??

[steady stone]

^

[glacial knoll]

Why would i already know

[steady stone]

if someone else reported it lol

im not around the modding server

[glacial knoll]

always send it

i'll fix it later today

[sudden hazel]

awesome

[wispy hinge]

Whats the best health item for fs???

[sudden hazel]

someone answered you already dude

[wispy hinge]

Who

Oh

[sudden hazel]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[wispy hinge]

Didnt notice since i didnt get a notification

[mellow crystal]

stone flux aside, and / are also peak

is also good early on or with high stacks

[lavish jacinth]

growth nectar is also good

and spinel tonic

[sudden hazel]

prayer beard

[tribal ocean]

nice thanks for looking into it and thanks @glacial knoll for acknowledging the issue

[steady stone]

the second ping 😭

[iron swan]

Is the soljourn ach bugged? My sol is doing 1mil damage but I'm not getting the ach

[lavish jacinth]

did you use shaped glass?

it has to be 500,000% BASE damage, glass directly increases base damage so it doesn't actually count. Gotta do it with extra multipliers like crowbar or watch

it also counts the total damage dealt if you hit multiple enemies

[iron swan]

Appreciate it

I did yes

[onyx plume]

should i take singularity band as loader?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, unless you're about to go to mithrix or whatever and don't already have a normal band

[onyx plume]

okok

[lavish jacinth]

singularity band has some niches but it's pretty much always worse than normal bands

[fresh umbra]

Is captain’s mastery skin ever going to get a model that’s different from his base skin, like most(?) other mastery skins?

The only difference i see between default and mastery captain is the color palette

[lavish jacinth]

devs haven't said anyhting about it, and I doubt they'd make any changes to hopoo's models

[onyx plume]

i take the teleporter on stage 5 and it didn't lead me to the boss stage?

thsi is the second time this happenning

kinda annoying lol

i made sure i didn't take blue teleport

[fresh umbra]

Did you interact with the prongs before activating the teleporter?

[onyx plume]

what are prongs?

[fresh umbra]

The things that stick up out of the teleporter and point toward the center

They make a ring around the teleporter, but interacting with them makes them merge into 2 prongs

^

[onyx plume]

i always just press E on the general outline of the teleporter

just like how i usually do it on any other stages

maybe i shouldn't do that?

[daring thorn]

Is voidling log in the planetarium somewhere or do I have to get lucky?

[lavish jacinth]

just gotta get lucky

stack clovers and put on swarms

[old goblet]

how do you do the trials thingy to go up to wave 50 for the void fiend

[high forum]

simulacrum? it just naturally goes up to 50 (and beyond)

[old goblet]

how do you do it tho

idk how to activate it

[high forum]

you click click 'alternate game modes' in the main menu

and it's the third option

[honest badger]

main menu -> alternate gamemodes

[old goblet]

o

[storm frost]

my game's sound keeps breaking any fix?

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-tech-support might be able to help

[storm frost]

i fixed it

[hot imp]

is benthic bloom good

[steady stone]

It's kind of just a meme item. In general you will do better with a mix of items, for speed and multiplicative damage, and you also could get 500 aegis

[hidden elk]

It's usually good but I don't find it fun cuz it often ruins your builds. It esp f's you over when it upgrades all your white tier movement speed items and you don't get any growth nectar to supplement the loss

[steady stone]

> >

[primal vector]

If you have SotS, its considered to be better, since the proportion of good reds on their own is higher and there even is a red that increases speed

[hasty tinsel]

Just make sure to keep grabbing items so you don't run out of non-reds.

And yeah it can be a little risky on survivors with lacking base movement speed and options, especially the captain.

[hoary sedge]

also the vast majority of reds really don't stack well so if you get unlucky you can get a bunch of stacks of stuff that doesn't do much for you

[opal pine]

How do you do split screen on xbox series S?

[tame finch]

What are good items and lunar items

[willow crescent]

So, my more experienced fans... is Super-charge on Railgunner worth having to wait for the recharge on it?

I find Cryocharge while not as strong is still good damage, and allows you to keep up damage easier due to no recharge and can be used for mobility combined with M1

[primal vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGn_BskjWuk

[primal vector]

It absolutely depends on what characther you are playing with. You will always need a proportion of speed, damage and healing items, but the specifics will depend. You can ask about a specific curvivor

[verbal turret]

is there any confirmed or expected date for the dlc ?

[daring cloak]

They're aiming for this year but its too early to give a proper answer

[verbal turret]

oh ok

[daring cloak]

It hasnt even been a month since it got announced

[primal vector]

I dont know how is the consensus right now, but cryocharge is indeed very good. Supercharged has a 3.0 proc coefficient and Cryocharge has 0

[willow crescent]

Cryocharge has a 1.5

[primal vector]

wiki is wrong then

[willow crescent]

yep yes it is.

[daring cloak]

Which wiki

[primal vector]

The only wiki

gg

[daring cloak]

then you should make a post about it in #ror-wiki-discussion

Because uhhh yeah 0 is a tiny bit away from the truth

[full apex]

Mfw

[trim lynx]

i dont see it

[valid hearth]

are you able to transfer ps4 saved data of the game to the ps5 version? or do you have to restart

[gritty hollow]

how do you find the cells in the area under the bazaar?
do you just have to wait for the beams of light to show up? because I keep dying to the damage-over-time before then

[steady stone]

after doing one cell, the next one will instantly get a beam while the last zone is shrinking

[trim narwhal]

you misread

the wiki is "accurate" to say supercharge and cryocharge, the r abilities themselves, have no proc coefficient

this is because theyre referring to only the ability itself, which just replaces your m1

and that replaced m1 has the proper 3.0/1.5 coeff listed

[onyx plume]

im at stage 5 and want to continue the run (for stage 7+ void runs) but it seems like i can't activate the "prongs" or pillars of the teleporter?

im following a yt vid but for me it doesn't show an interaction button for the pillars of the teleporter

[hoary sedge]

have you activated it yet? it doesnt work after you start the tp event

[onyx plume]

wait so i can't do it after tp event?

[fathom bobcat]

Why doesn’t the false son, seeker and chef have prime maridian skins?

[onyx plume]

shit...

[hoary sedge]

yeah no you have to do it before. you can still loop with the artifact portal or the blue portal though

[onyx plume]

the thing is, i forgot to do the blue portal thing before i activated portal

i found it after tp event and fed it the coin

[hoary sedge]

you can do artifact portal still then

[onyx plume]

artifact portal??

is that the thing with formula things in the below map

[hoary sedge]

yep

[onyx plume]

tyty

[onyx plume]

ummm so i read over it. i can choose any dimension and we will get to stage 7 eventually right?

[hoary sedge]

yeah

default position primordial teleporter is the only way to not loop

[hot imp]

does drone parts apply to all drones in multiplayer or only the holders

[lavish jacinth]

Only the holder

[solemn wind]

Pretty sure the same applies to solus probes too

[lavish jacinth]

Yep, any mechanical ally

[inland inlet]

can anyone figure out how i got vapourized here lol

[lavish jacinth]

But it has to be owned by the person with sdp

[solemn wind]

Oh no i meant i'm pretty sure the solus probes from the empathy cores only scale with your allies not other players' allies too

[lavish jacinth]

It looks like you died to glacial elite's death explosion but it's hard to tell lol

[lavish jacinth]

Oh nah, empathy cores benefit from ALL allies regardless of owner

[solemn wind]

Oh nice

[tame finch]

Bandit i guess. Im not really sure who is good

[lavish jacinth]

bandit's good, are probably the "best" in no particular order, but every survivor is viable

[lavish jacinth]

As a very broad rule of thumb, any item that multiplies damage in some way will be good on anyone, either damage multipliers like or total damage procs like . The important thing is to get a mix of different items rather than stacking one or two things, because they tend to multiply each other's effects.
You don't have to worry too much about perfectly optimizing your build either. With a bit of practice and knowledge you can start to figure out what will work best depending on character, but items are designed with randomness in mind and usually don't require specific setups to be good. Just make sure you're full-clearing stages to get as many items as possible.

As for healing and speed items, they tend to be pretty much universally good, with a few exceptions (like being really good on engineer and pretty weak on everyone else). It's more a matter of how many of them you need rather than which ones- naturally fast characters won't need as many speed items, for example.

[tame finch]

Are any of these dlc characters?

[lavish jacinth]

for lunars it's a little different because all of them can be good, but they're all situational

[lavish jacinth]

all of them are dlc except

[tame finch]

Oh

[lavish jacinth]

but again, they're all viable, you don't have to just play the best ones

[tame finch]

What about lunar and red items. I know what some of them do but i cant tell if they are useful or not

[unkempt ocean]

Yeah and there’s plenty of survivors who are fun or can be fun to you and also strong

[lavish jacinth]

excluding dlc items, are all consistently solid picks for reds, but most of them are at the very least decent. Again, anything that deals or multiplies damage is almost always gonna be strong

if you haven't already, I highly recommend turning on the 'inspect item' option in settings, under that umbrella settings thing on the first page. It's really helpful if you can't remember what items do

like I said, lunars are a little different because all of them can be good under the right circumstances, but they can also be really bad. I'd kinda have to go through all of them individually to explain it lol

[tame finch]

Ok thanks

Its hard to tell if the skill change ones are beneficial or not

[lavish jacinth]

those depend a LOT on the survivor

[tame finch]

Are any of them good for bandit?

[lavish jacinth]

I'd say is good on him, and can be good lategame, especially if you're using the default special

[hushed dagger]

Strides of Heresy is very good with Loader

[lavish jacinth]

I'll just go through em lol
a downgrade for most survivors, but it can be good if you're not using your primary attack much (ranged for example). The exception is , visions is a dps upgrade for his turrets and easier to use than his normal primary, although the delayed damage can sometimes cause problems for stationary turrets
hooks takes some practice to use but it's really good, most survivors can safely take it unless it's someone who relies really heavily on their secondary, like
Kinda similar to the others, it's slower than most movement abilities, but it does give you a ton of safety. Can be worth it if you're not using your utility skill much
Good if you have a weak/outscaled special and good proc rate on your other skills. Best example would be but sometimes can make use of it

Also, all of them stack pretty badly

[tame finch]

Ok thanks

Wait wdym by they stack badly. Like they dont get the full effect of dmg buffs?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean the item itself doesn't stack well

[tame finch]

Ohhh

[lavish jacinth]

most of them get a slightly better effect, but stacking significantly increases their cooldown, which is never really worth it

[placid rampart]

is that weird thing with artificer where you can't move while floating after using a launch pad a bug

[fallen bridge]

not technically? momentum locking is just really weird

[wispy hinge]

What are some good lunar items for railgunner

[hasty tinsel]

Depends on the skill you're replacing really.

Oop, thought chat hadn't scrolled down, ignore that.

[hasty tinsel]

Not really, so much as it's just how launch pads work so you don't accidentally change the direction by walking wrong and launching yourself off stage.

Never treat them as anything but a movement shortcut to a predetermined destination and you'll be fine.

Besides moving from one place to another quickly, there's really not much combat use outside of "this fight's going bad, imma GTFO".

[trail kite]

idk if its actually good, but ive used shaped glass before. I try to pick it up right near the end of a run though to avoid getting one tapped by anything + its not really needed for most bosses and monsters before one of the final bosses

actually question to anyone who plays the game a ton, does purity or any other cd reduction items work with railgunners cd on sniping? Since it takes a few seconds each scoped shot couldn't purity be really strong (esp with 100% crits on weak points making its luck debuff less impactful) to just spam scoped shots?

[bleak rain]

chat im dementia but what i know is backup mag on runner is mid bc the reload only applies to the first shot

[bleak rain]

from what i remember thatd based off attack speed i dont remember how exactly but attack speed affects the reload bar

[trail kite]

ohhhh that would make sense, i wonder if its possible to get to 0 reload time if you had a really long run

[bleak rain]

not sure on this but i think it makes the reload margin bigger

[bleak rain]

i just checked and no bc attack speed expands the reload margin to the right

[trail kite]

Darn, good to know tho thanks

[ripe frost]

Is there a way to defeat Grandparent as a commando on monsoon?

[lavish jacinth]

attack speed makes the bar move very slightly faster, but it's almost unnoticeable. Even with a ton of syringes it's not even that fast

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah? Just shoot it and get behind cover when it does the sun attack

same way you'd deal with a wandering vagrant nova, you just have to wait it out for longer

[ripe frost]

okay thanks, I'll try it, thought you have to run out of the sun

[lavish jacinth]

nah, it's just based on line of sight

[steady stone]

There's a visual indicator for the LoS too
#ror2-game-questions message

That and the sun attack only happens under 50% hp

[onyx plume]

My friend and I have been playing Loader + MULT comp and we found that this worked really well due to split itemization (e.g., focus crystals for loader, syringes for mult). We want to try different duo comps and wondering what else works well

And also what survivor works well with void fiend in duo?

[mellow crystal]

really just any pair of survivors that don't compete for items works well

but even then some of them like loader rg and fs are so strong by themselves they can afford to give up a few strong items

[mellow crystal]

rex and acrid always work well with other survivors due to rex's silly item choices and acrid being fairly item-independent damage-wise
arti and chef could work well with viend since they provide aoe and they don't really care that much about the proc items that viend will be grabbing

[mellow crystal]

also i should specify, poison damage does get increased by damage items, but since poison damage is kinda self-scaling, it isn't as necessary and it also means acrid doesn't necessarily need proc items and such

also a nice bonus is that because viend doesn't really need or want healing items, rex can spam abilities way easier since he gets all the healing items and any other survivor just gets more survivability for free

[onyx plume]

Thanks for the advice. Yeah my friend will be playing viend and i will give a shot for acrid. I am also wondering, are there any specific itemization you recommend for Acrid?

Definitely going to focus on healing and mobility, but am wondering if certain items are prioritized over one

Like dump-everything-into-3d-printer kind of items (it was focus crystal when i played loader)

[mellow crystal]

as far as i know, not really tbh
if you wanna mix poisoning and meleeing then focus crystal is obv good but aside from that acrid's item pool is mostly the generic damage, mobility, and some healing

i'd scrap stuff like red whip tho since leap makes up for 90% of your out of combat mobility

[onyx plume]

i see... well than yeah imma give over all dmg items to my friend (viend) and ill just stack health and mobility items.

ill throw in 1 or 2 gasoline or wisps.

[willow crescent]

Personally I say all survivors work well together with competent players

[willow crescent]

4 gestures of the drowned with a Spinel Tonic, but thats all characters. A single corpsebloom greatly increases healing with healing items. Beads of Fealty. Shaped Glass if you're cracked at avoiding damage. And 1 purity helps the cooldown of their mines for making pillar skip easier and upping mobility

[mellow crystal]

true actually

[willow crescent]

23 stacks of armor down combined with frozen means you essentially were executed before you could react.

And currently, the power elixer CAN be damaged through and still kill you.

[inland inlet]

i seee, thank you

[willow crescent]

You pretty much had to just not be there when the frost explosions went off

I could never have the patience reflexes ans dedication to run merc

[inland inlet]

merc is pretty much my default when i don't know who else to play

[mellow crystal]

honestly merc's skill floor is definitely higher than other survivors but once you get used to him he doesn't feel all that difficult

like the only reason i run 1112 merc is because it's the only merc loadout that doesn't feel braindead spammy to me

[inland inlet]

i got complacent when i got so powerful here though so i didn't pay attention to threats as much as i might have under less overpowered circumstances

i also didn't expect the enemies having symbiotic scorpion to result in me getting one-shot, i thought it'd be worrying but not that worrying lol

[willow crescent]

Armor down is no joke. PERMA armor down too

The enemies in question already hit hard WITH full armor and on level.

So reduced armor, level gap and frozen execute doesnt even surprise me you hit -400 hp

[inland inlet]

makes sense

[hearty shore]

how much hp is required for the false son growth achievement.

[mellow crystal]

10436

[little cloak]

I can unlock || false son || if my friend has the Halcyon Seed?

I need to knwo this ASAP please

[mellow crystal]

i believe so

[brittle shuttle]

yes

as long as auri shows up during phase 3 you can unlock em

assuming you guys dont get hashtag owned

even if you die as long as someone kills fs and auri everyone gets him

[hot field]

anyone know how I can unlock chef?

[lavish jacinth]

You need , go to reformed altar and put them into the wok inside the little room near the statue's right foot

You can deposit the items across multiple runs if you need to

[stray gazelle]

do all players need the dlc to play dlc levels or can just the host

[mellow crystal]

just the host

or actually anyone in the lobby

not just the host

everything except survivors and achievements are accessible to everyone if any players in the lobby have the dlc

[coarse cipher]

any good huntress build and tips? im trying her on monsoon

[stray gazelle]

can the one with dlc play survivors without the others owning dlc?

[mellow crystal]

yes

[mellow crystal]

mostly wanna go for damage, attack speed, and procs (% on hit items like and ), you're pretty set on mobility, though that doesn't mean mobility items are scrappable

[honest badger]

Focus on damage, mobility items aren't super necessary with her

If you're running her alt m1 then crits are really good

[coarse cipher]

ok ok, now what about the skills? im going with the 3 arrows, 3 teleports and the 3 super arrows ult, should i change?

[mellow crystal]

nahhh that's good
the only thing that's really strictly worse than its counterpart is arrow rain

[coarse cipher]

alright thanks

also sorry to bother, but in my monsoon run, theres any artifact combo that would make my path easier?

[honest badger]

Command + Sacrifice + Swarm

but note that you won't really get better at the game with this combo, it's basically a cheat code

[coarse cipher]

would u recommend kin too?

[honest badger]

No

I don't recommend any artifacts

[coarse cipher]

thats a little controversal

[mellow crystal]

not rlly a lot of people play without artifacts in my experience

and whenever they do it's usually the fun ones like dissonance

[honest badger]

Artifacts mainly only exist for fun, and command tends to detract from fun

[stray gazelle]

how to build/play merc?

[lavish jacinth]

There's a link to a merc guide in the pins here

[primal vector]

Was prayers beads only giving the stats for the first one stacked fixed?

[thorny glen]

what makes the bar bigger?

[lavish jacinth]

Attack speed

[thorny glen]

cool thanks

only played them once so far & won my monsoon run to get the skin

so havent played them again since, fun character though

[wispy hinge]

Do u unlock anything from the secret scavenger boss

[livid wedge]

Yes

[digital hollow]

Since you use 3 normal arrows, I recommend getting some crit so its able to launch 6 at once

Also get the laser scope

[weary cloud]

is there like, a good correct risk of rain lore video?

[mellow crystal]

check grovetender's channel
it's the most accurate we have afaik

[weary cloud]

mkay if there happens another better one js ping me ill watch thisone

[steady stone]

grovetender is the goat yeah
he hangs around here too, normally in #theorycrafting
he has a video for base game, dlc, and iirc one for arti nkuhana and kurr skan

[wary lintel]

does using dlc affect the ascendant achievement or not and how can it easily be unlocked

[mellow crystal]

i don't see why dlc would affect ascendant at all

and really it's just a matter of rng for mountain shrines

artifact of sacrifice might increase your chances by making the director not use credits on chests tho

[wary lintel]

alr thanks

[hot imp]

how do those void fog bubbles work because it doesnt go away after i kill everything inside

[hoary sedge]

the enemies you need to kill to clear it don't necessarily stay inside the bubble, they can roam around the map

if you stand still for a second a purple marker should show up to show you where they are

[mellow crystal]

something that also helps is that the objectives thing in the top right shows how many enemies are left

[hoary sedge]

a bug also exists that sometimes makes the seed glitch out and think there's an extra enemy that doesn't actually exist, making the seed impossible to clear, but it's pretty rare in my experience so you're probably just missing a voidtouched somewhere

[dry harbor]

I just gifted two of my friends RoR2 and we were having issues joining each other's games. Does the host need to create a multiplayer game and the others in lobby click join multiplayer?

This seems like a dumb question but i legit can't figure it out, it should have a "create/join lobby game" instead of having lobbies and games seperate

[steady stone]

make sure both of you have crossplay off, if that doesnt work, try making sure you all have crossplay on

it's preferred to have it off, but "every copy of ror2 is personalised"

[dry harbor]

We're all on PC, so we wouldn't need crossplay on right?

Also as a more gameplay question are there any good rules people have for item priority? I don't want everyone to die or argue over items but i also don't wanna get screwed over

[steady stone]

crossplay is only between epic/steam

[dry harbor]

We're all on steam so i think we'll be ok

[steady stone]

yeah, it's not the crossplay itself that matters

the setting is... very strange and introduces some problems
some people need to all have it off to play, some need it all on

preferrably, you should have it off, since there's less bugs, but it simply doesnt work for some people

that and everybody in the lobby needs the same setting, on or off

[steady stone]

for item priority, there's proc/burst characters and some are simply better on other characters
like as if you open a chest and a comes out, ping it and leave it for a , and they can leave a noxious thorn for you, etc

if it's good on about anyone, you can see who needs it, whether through total items or like if they dont have a lot of healing

[dry harbor]

Thank you very much 🙏

[steady stone]

wait i attached the wrong image LOL hold on

oh wait, no i didnt, ignore that

[marble osprey]

Trying to get the chef roll unlock and it's proving pretty difficult, anyone got any tips for it?

[steady stone]

Kin and Swarms, lesser wisps

oh also, the Yes Chef spinning part counts for the hit

[hasty tinsel]

They also show up if you look away from the direction of the enemy then back again.

[hasty tinsel]

This, use artifact of swarms and you'll have it done very quickly the moment you get a wisp stage, you can even restart until you get one since it's a valid enemy for swarms artifact on first stage.

[slim spoke]

or just jump at the nearby gups
that works, somehow

[steady swallow]

what is the easiest way to unlock false son's alternate utility?

[hidden shore]

So how much hp do you need for 40 luner spikes in just growth?

[hot imp]

does spare drone parts affect engi turrets

[hot imp]

3k is around 30

so id guess 4k-5k

get a bunch of infusions and steaks before you get stone pauldrons

so it multiplies more

[hidden shore]

Alr

[lavish jacinth]

Yes, it affects any robotic minion

[hasty tinsel]

The one that requires false son letting aurelionite kill mithrix with a lunar stake charge? Iirc drizzle and get to mithrix as fast as you can, try to have as little as you can of damage-boosting items and just try to time it on the last phase.

Lunar ruin doesn't last long.

[mellow crystal]

10k actually @hidden shore

higher growth means higher hp requirements

wiki blast

[gritty hollow]

is it just me or does artificer's glide act weird with the alternate R (the super jump) as well as hopoo feathers (the double jump item)?

[mellow crystal]

yea

it works fine with ion surge if you disable toggle hover tho

[gritty hollow]

ok ill disable toggle hover

[raw pollen]

where will i exit if i entered void fields on reformed altar

[mellow crystal]

Regular stage 3
Potc stages can only ever be entered via green portals or bazaar seers

[raw pollen]

alr thanks a lot

[rich vessel]

me and my 2 friends have been playing multiplayer and the game keeps kicking us out at stage 3-4. our internet is pretty good so what can be the problem?

[lavish jacinth]

turn off crossplay

[rich vessel]

the screens goes black for a sec and then we are just in the lobby

[rich vessel]

thanks hope this works

[lavish jacinth]

it should, disconnecting after ~40 minutes or so is an extremely common bug with crossplay

[lyric meadow]

does gasoline increase it's damage with every stack? or burning damage in general?

[mellow crystal]

damage, duration, and radius

pretty damn good

[lavish jacinth]

damage and duration are technically the same thing here but yeah

[lyric meadow]

What i mean is does it effect the damage of other instances of burning such as from artificer?

[mellow crystal]

No p sure

[lavish jacinth]

nope, it only increases its own damage

increases all burn damage though

[lyric meadow]

thanks, the wording was a little vague and I was wondering if it was actually even more busted on Artificer and CHEF

[chilly mica]

flamethrower and ion surge which one is better ?

[mellow crystal]

ion surge 100%

flamer is solid but it can't compete with ion surge

[lavish jacinth]

flamethrower IS fun though

[mellow crystal]

true!

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah surge is the better option if you just wanna get easy wins

[hasty tinsel]

Or just don't like the flamethrower.

[mellow crystal]

surge is fun too but only if you actively hinder yourself by pretending you aren't able to hover infinitely

[hasty tinsel]

Never liked it myself, just felt completely wrong for a flamethrower.

[pure stream]

hey my friend died while i have tranquility as seeker but he doesnt get revived? what am i doing wrong

can you not be revived with the palm

[daring cloak]

Nop

Palm blast has no revival functions

[pure stream]

damn

[fiery pond]

What survivors should I start for unlocking

I got the frozen person, mult, and warrior

Along with the base 2 and rail gunner and meditating one

[lavish jacinth]

you'll unlock most of the basegame survivors just from playing the game normally, although the one that you get from killing the secret boss on siren's call is worth going out of your way for

honestly I'd say just start with the ones that seem easiest and go from there, they're all worth getting eventually

[fiery pond]

Are their challenges in the logbook?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, or just hover over the locked thing on the character select

[fiery pond]

I see

[stray gazelle]

does the fuel cells in back of ship place a bomb on you if u get too low?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it explodes if you fall under 50% health

[chilly mica]

why did i loop back to stage 1 after stage 5 ?

[lavish jacinth]

either you realigned the teleporter before activating it or you left through a portal

[chilly mica]

so do i have to redo the whole game

[lavish jacinth]

to get back to stage 5 yeah, or you can take the celestial portal on stage 8 to end the run early

[candid cypress]

seeker does more damage with more tranquility stacks?

[lavish jacinth]

It buffs her skills in various ways but it's usually more damage in one way or another, yeah

[marble osprey]

There is a mod called jethack that does make it work the way it should with toggle, if you use mods

[livid wedge]

Each skill is affected by tranquilty stacks in their own way but independent of the skills, each tranquility stacl increases all stats, including damage

[candid cypress]

Oh cool, thanks

[fiery path]

Hey so what are the cases where i'd want to use a damaging equipment instead of anything else? So far i've not fully grasped how useful they are compared to stuff like self buffs, grouping util, movement and survivability stuff

[gentle ruin]

Is False Son supposed to be able to see you while you’re invisible? He can totally see me while invisible as Bandit

[lavish jacinth]

Probably not but cloaking is weird sometimes, it helps if you have minions to draw aggro away from you

[gentle ruin]

A lot of times I like to run damage equipment if I have good movement (goat hooves or soda), or if I have a lot of proc items (crit, bleed, ukelele, etc.)

[verbal creek]

any beginners guides?

[lavish jacinth]

Usually to fill gaps in your kit and/or to support your items, like using capacitor for better burst damage or crowdfunder for more procs. Or just if there isn't a better equipment available (and no equipment drones to hand stuff off to)

[verbal creek]

and general advice on how to clear the game

[lavish jacinth]

The pins here have some guides, the biggest piece of advice I'd give is to full-clear every stage and don't rush to the teleporter. Getting at least one item per minute is a good rule of thumb

But it's okay to spend time messing with printers and scrappers or whatever, as long as you're spending time on something that'll hopefully make you stronger

[verbal creek]

so i shouldnt just speedrun the game?

[lavish jacinth]

Nope

[verbal creek]

i see, ty

i have a few questions, what does the mountain shrine do

[lavish jacinth]

Increases the difficulty of the boss fight, but you get more items as a reward

[verbal creek]

ohhhh

and the shrine of the forest ones?

[mellow crystal]

creates a healing circle around it, each use increases radius and i think healing

[verbal creek]

thats a bit shit

[mellow crystal]

yeahh it's niche

[lavish jacinth]

"Niche" is putting it kindly

[mellow crystal]

theoretically it could be useful if you have no healing items/skills and are low, or if it's in the tp radius

but really when is it ever useful outside of sometimes when it's in the tp radius

[daring cloak]

When I fall off the map on stage 1 and need healing asap

[mellow crystal]

i unironically don't think i've ever seen a stage 1 woods shrine 😭

[peak jacinth]

they spawn constantly on roost, it’s the pits 😭

[marble osprey]

Basically they should do something you're having trouble with, if you're having trouble with movement, take something to help with that, or a healing equipment to help with healing, etc. Having more damage is always good though so a damaging equipment is never bad
One particular situation where you really want one is a survivor without ranged options, when fighting Mithrix. Phase 4 can be really scary if you have no way to deal damage to him while staying at a distance
Also it's almost never gonna be better than the two economy equipments, recycler and credit card. If you see either of those, you practically always take it

[high forum]

shrine of the woods stage 1-2 is really great when you don't have a lot of other options

[peak jacinth]

I don’t think I’ve ever needed to use one on stage 1

definitely used them on stage 4 when I haven’t been getting good items though

[mellow crystal]

i also wanna add that damage equipments are great supplements for when you get specific items that aren't good on your survivor
if you get a lot of proc items like , is good since it's kinda just portable commando m1
if you get a lot of burst items like but you don't have many high-damage abilities, is good for its spammable 1500%

[fiery path]

I can understand if i am having trouble with either mob clearing or single target. But since they scale on your damage and items, if i am having trouble with dealing damage in general because of not having luck with the items, the equipment themselves wont help much, no?

[peak jacinth]

burst damage equipment like Royal Capacitor and sawmerang can deal some hefty damage on their own

[mellow crystal]

yeah sawmerang is pretty crazy, just have to remember to use it like a shotgun

[marble osprey]

They're usually much better damage than your normal skills though

[peak jacinth]

so while some equipments will mainly be useful in combination with other items, others can help to just boost your damage overall AND combo with your kit

[marble osprey]

And like I said, are super good for phase 4 Mithrix, when you don't have items to scale with anyway

They are kinda situational but so are most other equipment, which one you want will always depend on what you need help with/have good item synergy with (besides credit card and recycler which are just always very strong)

[errant ibex]

I need help

I'm in the artifact dimension thing

And no enemies are spawning

On console btw

Stage 71

Is there any hope?

[lavish jacinth]

something will probably spawn eventually

spawns kinda break when you're on really late stages, especially in bulwarks ambry

[errant ibex]

Good to know

Well I guess I'll just wait

For the record I'm 410 minutes in

[errant ibex]

How long will that take

[lavish jacinth]

probably longer than you'd care to wait lol

hard to give an exact amount of time but it's gonna be a while before you can leave, like multiple minutes between spawns

[errant ibex]

I've been waiting for a while now

0 spawns

I guess my god run ends here

Rip

[quasi topaz]

People who do super long runs usually have the dev console and the proper save mod to protect the run

Idk if console has access

[errant ibex]

Nope

No console mods

😦

[lime ermine]

when is the dlc gonna release?

[mellow crystal]

expected this year according to preston but no official release date or statements

[errant ibex]

Which special ability is more fun to use on merc?

[mellow crystal]

alt

[honest badger]

-# july 7th

[mellow crystal]

i don't even have anything else to say i think most people can agree alt special is the most fun

[errant ibex]

Slicing winds?

[mellow crystal]

yup

[errant ibex]

Oke

[frank sparrow]

to unlock the alternate knife for bandit can i just get a lot of tri tip daggers or do those not count as hemorage

[honest badger]

bleed is not hemorrhage

you need to crit with his m2

[frank sparrow]

ok so how should i go about getting 20 stacks on someone??

[honest badger]

alloy worship unit or aurelionite are good targets

applying hemorrhage resets the duration so just keep applying it before it runs out

getting guaranteed crit will help a lot

[frank sparrow]

ohhh ok

thanks

[bright tangle]

literally what is the point of effigy of grief

[steady stone]

they can activate the plates on aquaduct and are alright if you put it in the middle of the commencement arena

also

it's just not good on melee characters

[stuck axle]

How does longstanding solitude interact with brittle crown? Does it reduce your xp or is there just no downside to it if you use longstanding solitude?

[hoary sedge]

solitude eliminates the downside of crown yeah

[steady stone]

yeah, you're always at 0 gold

[hoary sedge]

it also doesn't convert the gold loss into negative xp, same with the gilded special attack

[stray gazelle]

is there a guide i can watch to help me get better at looting? ive been playing for a while but i feel like im inefficient at looting and missing a lot of chests

[steady stone]

avoid killing stuff just "for the fun of it" when you have enough gold for the stage, and always be looking around plotting a path at all times
even when you dont have gold, you can get knowledge waiting for spawns of where chests/tp is

[hollow rover]

What is the best way to spawn an overloading worm?

[stark wolf]

i would say going through the late game part (not going directly to the final boss 1 or 2 times) and also activating the claws that make the boss harder

choosing the map "sky meadow" where i encountered him the most of the time

[stark wolf]

i do think that's the best way

[hollow rover]

Thanks

[stark wolf]

you can also look at the exclusive wiki of the game "boss" part, it tells you if they spawn more on certain maps

but i'm pretty sure sky meadow boosted boss spawner is the best

[hollow rover]

Ok

[analog brook]

Sky meadows and helminth are the mains one yea

If you have a ton of vertical mobility, you can get up on a meteor high up and sit there while the director builds up credits

Which will make overloading worms spawn since they cost the most credits

[hollow rover]

Thank you

[muted dock]

Is there a guaranteed way to get the halcyon shrine on the second stage after taking the green portal? It feels like it’s random if it’s there or not.

[gritty hollow]

I'm on the character select menu for singleplayer
I can click the button to edit the "expansions"
and toggle it between 3 states
theres normal, highlighted, and crossed out
I assume that crossed out means "disabled"
but what are the other two? I assume one has to be "active"

[marble osprey]

It's just the same options as multiplayer
One is voting to turn it on, one is voting to turn it off, and one is neutral
So in single player two of the options will just do the same thing

[hot imp]

does using false sons pass-down item pool to end a monsoon run will it count towards the mastery skin acheivement

[dusky raven]

I believe so

[lyric sparrow]

the drop pod battery\is needed to get REX, right?

[hot imp]

yes

you have to take it to the red stage 4 map and rex is on one of the middle elevated platforms

[mellow crystal]

it is random yes

[stuck axle]

I’ve got this really good eclipse run but I don’t have kjaros band, is there another way to skip phase 4 of mithrix as void fiend? Or should I just loop for the second time and pray I get a band?

[chrome mist]

Do the revive shrines still take up 50 credits

[tawdry hearth]

For the challenge "Newtist" is it a challenge that needs to be down in a single run or is it essentially a progression challenge and all you have to do is activate 8 newt shrines? Additionally do I need to enter the blue portals in order for it to count then as "activated"?

[gritty hollow]

im pretty sure it's just 8 altars, in separate locations, but you don't need to enter the portal, and it doesn't have to be in the same run

[eager stream]

hi

how do i find the teleporter

[coarse mauve]

around the teleporter will be a bunch of white particles, but the only way to actually find it is to see either the particles or the teleporter itself

[eager stream]

thank you

[final anchor]

anyone know if sonorous whispers stops you from getting boss items from random boss spawns?

[eager stream]

uhhh im 24 mins into the game and cant find the teleporter is that normal

[coarse mauve]

sometimes lol

[eager stream]

thanks

this game is very difficult

[final anchor]

It gets much easier as you play!

[eager stream]

thanks

[gritty hollow]

i think after a certain amount of time, the teleporter releases a shockwave and gets a beam of light to show where it is

[coarse mauve]

nah, I've been lost for almost an hour, nada. (im very smart)

[gritty hollow]

it also plays the activation sound when it does that
but I can't find anything about it on the wiki

[eager stream]

idk ive retraced my steps and hit the 30 min mark and cant find it

i should restart the run

[gritty hollow]

you should try cheating to find where it was

as a learning experience

[marble osprey]

Also for future reference there are settings to make those teleporter particles more visible, if you look in the options

[marble osprey]

Pretty sure that's a mod, not base game behavior, which is probably why it's not mentioned in the wiki

[coarse mauve]

as a console player, i suffer and sometimes slam my head against the wall due to the teleporter being hidden (literally just at spawn)

[eager stream]

should i use huntress or commando?

[gritty hollow]

i feel like neither do damage, but once I got the character from stage 3 I could start playing the game

[coarse mauve]

huntress is more beginner friendly, you should come back to commando when you're better at the game

[eager stream]

thanks

[gritty hollow]

Is there a "guide" for items?
I'm not looking for a "tier list" exactly, more like just going over every item and explaining why they're good/how to use them

[coarse mauve]

uhhh i just watch random youtubers who play it as i go to sleep
they occasionally talk about items and what they do

[scarlet ivy]

what is alloyed collective?

[eager stream]

OMG YES IVE FINALLY TELEPORTED THE PARTICLES COULD BE SEEN FROM LIKE HALF THE MAP THANKS

[marble osprey]

Always happy to help lol

[eager stream]

Hi, what does "a blue portal appears... and a blue orb appears" mean?

[marble osprey]

The wiki has a list of items and what they do, as well as pages on each one with a decent amount of info about them https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Items

[eager stream]

i donated to like a frozen rock

[marble osprey]

Donating to that rock creates the blue orb, and then after you complete the teleporter, it turns into a blue portal. It takes you to a little between-stages shop with a couple interesting things in it

[eager stream]

thank yyou

[gritty hollow]

ok i clicked sticky bomb to figure out why you wouldnt just scrap it immediately
and the wiki just made me more confused

[eager stream]

for commando, which one is better? the utility or the one u unlock

[marble osprey]

It basically works like a 5% chance for a 2.8x damage multiplier on each hit, which isn't bad
The odds of it triggering are confusing tho yeah

[marble osprey]

Definitely the unlocked utility imo

[eager stream]

thank you

are unlocked abilities always better

[marble osprey]

Not always no, and sometimes there's not a clear better one, just different playstyles

[marble osprey]

Wait nvm it scales linearly i thought it was one of the ones with funky odds

[eager stream]

whats a overloaded worm

i need it for commando upgrade

[hasty tinsel]

Special version of magma worm, generally mostly found while looping.

Basically replacement for overloading elite magma worm, slightly different behavioir on its attacks than the normal one.

[eager stream]

thank you

uhh i havent encountered a worm yet

im checking my logbook and i cant find the magma worm

[hasty tinsel]

You'll encounter one eventually, issue then is getting the logbook drlp. XD

[left herald]

I heard there was a new false son itemless pillar skip

Anyone mind sharing info on that if they know anything about it?

[hasty tinsel]

Itemless pillar? Huh?

What do you mean? Skipping the trek up or?

[left herald]

I mean he has a pillar skip that he can do without any items

It's just that I know nothing about it and have only heard rumors

[hasty tinsel]

Oh you mean skipping needing to do the pillars ON THE MOON

You mentioning false son like that made me think you were on about a skip for his level.

[left herald]

Lmao that would be the easiest skip in the game, just don't take green portal

[hasty tinsel]

That's not a skip, that's just doing something like going for celestial instead.

[eager stream]

thanks

[gritty hollow]

what if I ask more specific questions?
ex.
Rainstorm Difficulty, SotV but not SotT DLC active, no artifacts
default railgunner
Harvester's Scythe, Wax Quail, Encrusted Key, Tougher Times (x2), Energy Drink, Cautious Slug, Regenerating Scrap
There is a Lens-maker's glasses printer, and a scrapper, what's the play?

I'm thinking I trash energy drink since I have quail, and maybe slug since scythe, and get 2x glasses

[hasty tinsel]

Sounds like it's still really early, doesn't sound like it'd make that much a difference and you would give up some health sustainability via the slug just for a little bit extra damage on your m2.

[gritty hollow]

so does "item macro" not matter early?

when should i start worrying about it?

[lavish jacinth]

When you actually have a reason to use it

If your run is already going pretty well (which it sounds like yours is so far) then you can just roll with what you get

[lavish jacinth]

Also lensmakers suck ass on railgunner so don't bother

Its only a 5% damage buff per stack

[hasty tinsel]

It only really helps your un-aimed m1

The premier item you want is crowbars

[lavish jacinth]

No it doesn't, she can't get random crits

[hasty tinsel]

Oh, huh.

[lavish jacinth]

Her passive converts all crit chance into crit damage, but because the crit multiplier starts at 200%, it's effectively a 2:1 ratio

200% -> 210% is only a 5% increase

Same thing happens with laser scope

[hasty tinsel]

I thought it only applied to scoped shots for some reason.

Anyways, crowbars ftw, ideally you wanna oneshot most things with scoped shots and the crowbar helps a toooon with that, while also supercharging on-hits like ATG since they scale off the boosted damage.

[lavish jacinth]

Also not true

Atg would only get boosted if the target is still above 90% health when it lands

[hasty tinsel]

It would be based off the boosted damage on the 90% health enemy the proc came from.

[lavish jacinth]

Damage multipliers get applied after proc damage gets calculated, and then get added to the proc separately later on, so that procs can't double dip

[hasty tinsel]

That's annoying.

Still good to have crowbars though, that's a lot of damage regardless

[lavish jacinth]

If it didn't work that way then procs would be insanely overpowered with multipliers, because they could potentially keep benefitting from the same multiplier several times

(Breaching fin and lunar ruin are bugged and DO work that way btw, which is why they're so strong, especially ruin)

[hasty tinsel]

That explains why false son's alt spikes are so busted when you aim them so it hits the enemy, then the ground, for some reason that absolutely shreds enemies past maybe 5 or 6 spikes and it's kinda hilarious.

Hit, lightning strike, ground lightning strike.

[gritty hollow]

well here's the next stage:

items:
harvester's scythe, wax quail, shuriken, ghor's tome, ignition tank, tougher times (x2), cautious slug, lens-maker's glasses, roll of pennies, regenerating scrap
I'm on the map with kjaro's band and runald's band, so I'm going to look for those too

multishops
ATG missile mk. 1, hopoo feather, ? (green)
repulsion armor plate, bundle of fireworks, tri-tip dagger
rose buckler, rose buckler, regenerating scrap
personal shield generator, bison steak, stun grenade

void potential
encrusted key, voidsent flame, weeping fungus

I really felt the lack of aoe so I think I'm taking voidsent flame, and I guess from the multishops
hopoo feather, repulsion armor plate, rose buckler, shield generator

[lavish jacinth]

Ok, If you do wanna do some item macro, now would be a good time to look for

But I'd probably take atg over the feather

[gritty hollow]

im pretty sure i explored the stage

entirely

[lavish jacinth]

Oh yeah, and scrap the shuriken, it's really terrible on railgunner because it'll steal the band proc from your special

Obviously doesn't matter if you don't get bands, but it's still early

[gritty hollow]

i didn't find a scrapper either

[lavish jacinth]

Just something to keep in mind

[gritty hollow]

special is the right click right?
why does it matter what procs it?

[lavish jacinth]

Special is supercharge/cryocharge

Bands deal total damage, meaning they scale off of the hit that procs them

So you want that to hit to be as strong as possible

But because your specials have a small delay before shooting, the shuriken gets thrown and usually hits the target first, wasting the band proc on a much weaker hit

[gritty hollow]

im on phase 2 of mithrix and one of the enemies is stuck in a wall

how do I kill it

oh it's dying to razor wire from fall damage

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah that's a bug that can happen sometimes

Hopefully fixed in the next patch

[cursive yew]

I need help with the demons and the crabs

I looped back to titanic plains and I saw 2 spawn off the bat and I've been running around for like 10 minutes now and not a single other one spawned

[lavish jacinth]

just keep waiting, they'll spawn eventually

and ofc kill anything that's not a crab so other enemies don't fill up the spawn cap

not much more you can do besides just wait

[cursive yew]

are you sure they don't have a special spawn mechanic? I must have spawned 35+ groups of enemies by now and not a single one was hermit crabs

[solemn wind]

Theyre just unreasonably rare

They also won't get closet to you unlike most enemies so you might have to go looking

[lavish jacinth]

and you are on stage 6 specifically, right? not like stage 11 or whatever?

[solemn wind]

Also great pfp I love hollow knight

[cursive yew]

wait holy shit they're spawning now

idk what changed maybe the difficulty ticked up?

[lavish jacinth]

could be, yeah

[cursive yew]

ty!!

[lavish jacinth]

rnjesus works in mysterious ways

[cursive yew]

i genuinely think its the difficulty, im getting nuked by mortars now when it ticked up to I SEE YOU

gg got it

what a weird ass achievement man 😭

[hasty tinsel]

Sometimes the game director freaks out for a little bit in terms of spawns, no idea why it happens though I imagine it's something to do with sweetspots for spawn credit budgets.

[chilly mica]

does mod like propersave effect my ability to get achievment ?

[lavish jacinth]

no, you can get achievements with mods enabled

[marble osprey]

There is also a mod that fixes this, MithrixWispFix by Goorakh (highly recommend checking out their other mods too, there's a lot of really good bug fix or qol ones)

[stuck axle]

I’ve got this really good eclipse run but I don’t have kjaros band, is there another way to skip phase 4 of mithrix as void fiend? Or should I just loop for the third time and pray I get a band?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, you could just fight phase 4

[solemn wind]

Void Fiend shouldn't have too hard a time with his phase 4

Take cover, duck out, take a shot, duck back behind cover, rinse and repeat

[lavish jacinth]

hide behind a pillar in uncorrupted form and poke him to death

[stuck axle]

Ah ok

[solemn wind]

Mildly annoy him until he just fucking dies of mild annoyance

[lavish jacinth]

p4 is generally not that hard as long as you play it safe and have some form of ranged damage, it may just take a while

[echo jewel]

Can you up your eclipse level by going after the 1st dlc final boss? What if I go against it after defeating Mithrix by touching the frog?

[lavish jacinth]

you technically can, but you can only get there via the frog

mithrix is always required for eclipse

[turbid turtle]

any tips on doing the glorious battle challenge?

[solemn wind]

Which one is that? (Great pfp love that game)

I've done all but one unlock but I do not know their names

[turbid turtle]

"Charge the teleporter with less than 10% health."

[daring cloak]

Dont kill the tp boss and instead just get them to really low health

Charge the tp to 99% and start killing all the other enemies because enemies dont spawn anymore when tp is at 99% charge even if the boss is still alive

Jump off the map repeatedly and then when youre below 10% health kill the boss to finish the event

[turbid turtle]

thanks o7

[solemn wind]

It's also pretty easy on Rex

Just right click a few times before the end

[pure stream]

if you buy a stage choice in shop and then go through the void portal does that one still show up after?

null portal*

[dry gust]

Is Risk of Rain 2 coming to Switch 2? Any updates on performance or crossplay?

[honest badger]

no

[honest badger]

unknown, but console crossplay is not planned

[high forum]

it's compatible, but there isn't any announcement about performance improvement for it, so I doubt it's happening

[tight fossil]

Can someone help me understand false son rq

[errant stone]

as we all know, damage from watches, focus crystal, ap rounds etc stacks multiplicatively. but does chronic expansion also do that? can't find any info on this here or on the wiki

[honest badger]

yes

[errant stone]

hell yea

[lavish jacinth]

the boss or the survivor?

[tight fossil]

Survivor, I did a run and I had 84 bison steaks and 28 infusions and yet I still didn’t get the 44 secondaries

What didn’t I do or what did I do wrong

[lavish jacinth]

ah

go for multiplicative health ups like

[tight fossil]

I’d put the ss of the last items I had when I died, but can’t do that here

[lavish jacinth]

you can if you get a role, #roles
but just stacking flat health buffs is gonna take way more items than if you just get a few stacks of pauldron

it takes a little over 10k bonus health to get 40 stacks, not counting health gained from levels

[tight fossil]

Sorry, saved it from a Snapchat message I send to a friend

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you'd only have 4940 health from that

[tight fossil]

They really need to clarify the specifics bc I was insanely confused with everything

[lavish jacinth]

trust me, goes a long way. +100% health is gonna do a lot more than a flat health up

helps too

[tight fossil]

Ahhhh, so presents he is a lot better than flat, makes sense really

Percentage*

[lavish jacinth]

the wiki has specifics if you wanna look into it https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/False_Son

[misty drum]

how do people normally beat the false son? do people mainly loop once before

[ripe stratus]

does make mobs drop more items from the artifact that removes chests

[lavish jacinth]

no

[lavish jacinth]

looping makes it easier but you can beat him from stage 1, it's just tough

[hoary sedge]

main thing you want to look out for with pre loop fs is having enough movement to dodge the phase 1 dash slam

[misty drum]

i think i got lucky beating him pre loop as commando because i had ruin and 2 elixers

[solemn wind]

I really don't think he's tough if you're already un the habit if watching enemies, dodging, and using cover

[turbid turtle]

Can someone tell me every item that gives a status effect that triggers death mark?

[honest badger]

better to check the status effects wiki page

[turbid turtle]

alright

i forgot there was a wiki lmao

[honest badger]

any item listed as a source in the debuffs section works

more or less

stun, apparently, is not a debuff

[daring cloak]

[honest badger]

also noxious thorn and breaching fin

[honest badger]

wait what does frost relic apply?

[daring cloak]

The same kind of slow as runald iirc

[coarse mauve]

i forget, what's death mark?

[steady stone]

When you get enough debuffs on a target, they take more damage

4 debuffs, 50% damage

stacking scales the time

[hoary sedge]

also glacial, blazing, malachite, celestine, and perfected aspects but those won't really ever be relevant lol

unless maybe you have

[daring cloak]

I was actually considering wov but it felt a bit too far fetched

[mellow crystal]

Yeah fs is mostly a test of focus and a bit of reaction time in p1 and a test of positioning and baiting attacks in p2 & p3

[coarse mauve]

ahh gotcha gotcha
i just usually pass it up since i don't usually grab any debuff items, i mainly go for the atck sp and % to deal damage items (clearly a viend main lol)

[hoary sedge]

oh and technically also twisted if you can ever get the orb to fire but that's even less useful

[steady stone]

viend M1 has slow iirc, so it's actually good on him

same with arti

[mellow crystal]

Funnily enough viend kinda has a lower requirement for it since uncorrupted m1 applies slow

[coarse mauve]

the latest patch did actually take data from me and i lost both my skins for viend, so might as well ask if y'all got any good viend builds

[mellow crystal]

Rex has multiple debuffs basekit too
And acrid has poison, and seeker has slow on m1 for some reason

[steady stone]

full proc full crit is fun
crit to stay in red mode, the beam to make a bunch of ukulele and atg per second

[coarse mauve]

ukulele or the void version? i usually snag it for it to be helpful against the bosses

[steady stone]

also might want to bump a bug report about this data deletion

I've heard it going around and that's a really bad thing

[steady stone]

stock uke is good for crowd control while you just hold M1 on boss

[coarse mauve]

i only lost my two skins and the merc m2 variant, but you right

[coarse mauve]

ahh that's fair that's fair
you also said max crit and proc, but im curious what the max really is, since when im at 100%, it doesn't actually do it 100% of the time

[steady stone]

well max as in build as far as possible

[coarse mauve]

ohh, alright i gotcha

[steady stone]

crits fill the corruption meter, as a counterpart of healing lowering it

and void items raise the minimum value by 2%

[coarse mauve]

i usually try for enough void items to get to 26% so i can always heal

[steady stone]

like when you have 10 tritip the beam doesn't always bleed you mean? that's proc coefficient

different attacks have proc coefficient, or multipliers, to go along with chances

that's why arrow rain is considered bad so often, all of its procs are multiplied by its 0.2 coeff

[coarse mauve]

ohhh, so it's not ACTUALLY changing the base%, but rather multiplying the base%

[coarse mauve]

so 100% would be .4%, yeah?

[steady stone]

well no
0.2 is 1/5

since 1 is x1

viend red beam is 0.625 though

[coarse mauve]

so NOT 0.2%, but instead it's 20%

[steady stone]

luck would be the one that isn't affected by 100% chances, since rerolling a guarantee is pointless

i.e.

[coarse mauve]

im understanding it now, i was really confused about why the crit% was so low this whole time

[steady stone]

crit isn't affected by proc coeff, though
just luck

[coarse mauve]

and what's the clover exactly effect? i never really understood it, even tryna read the desc

[steady stone]

"luck" is a stat that rerolls
+1 luck means if you roll a chance and it doesn't hit that chance, it rolls again
-1 luck means if it does roll that chance, it rolls again to not hit it

[coarse mauve]

ahh gotcha, so clover gives you +1 luck, right?

[steady stone]

yeah, and purity -1

[coarse mauve]

what's purity?

[steady stone]

it's a stat itself, so they cancel each other out

[steady stone]

beat the game on monsoon to unlock, I'm pretty sure

[coarse mauve]

oh wait, not clover
purity is a different item, gotcha xP

[coarse mauve]

i should have it then

wait no, the data loss got rid of my monsoon run =~=

lemme go report that rq

[subtle flame]

has palm blast been fixed yet?

[steady stone]

The last patch was the 5/5 phase 3 patch, so if it was present after that, no

[coarse mauve]

alr finally back bleh

slow typing cuz my dumbass really injured my left thumb a couple days ago at work xP

so, viend's ideal build starts out with crits and debuffs
id assume movement comes second to those

[frank sparrow]

if you have 7 tough times are u immortal? im new so idk how that works other than +15% chance per stack

[coarse mauve]

how about attack speed?

[coarse mauve]

nah, you can still get hurt, but jiji's about to explain it (thankfully, idk how it works)

[steady stone]

No. It stacks hyperbolically, less per stack, so you would need a few million iirc so that your PC does a rounding error to 100%
Or get 65 for 1 frame refresh

[frank sparrow]

ok that makes sense so whats a good number to have just for a decent amount of blocks

[steady stone]

viend has alright movement and self preservation with his R to heal and his shift, but yeah movement is very important to reposition
Quail I find very nice

[coarse mauve]

alright, so it STARTS with 15%, and then every stack is 15% of the last one, right?

[steady stone]

Since it's less and less each time, around 15 id say is good?

[frank sparrow]

also crits in this game if your crit chance is 200% is there anything past a normal crit like warframe where theres yellow, orange, and red crits

[frank sparrow]

ok thanks!

[coarse mauve]

quail my beloved
how about atk sp?

[coarse mauve]

@frank sparrow read this stuff

[steady stone]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901542787055636/1371275636605194250/800px-Graph_tougher_times.png?ex=6836fab4&is=6835a934&hm=bd8895f1c41f6a9efbbf0ffc2451d769dd6551cd1ed3b34b8eedc637ea1a2008&

[frank sparrow]

oh its based off co efficient alr thanks

[steady stone]

attack speed is always pretty good, but I'd say damage is better since it also scales your procs
It can be good to have atk speed to get more corruption per second though

[steady stone]

The only exception is railgunner, who on weak spot, has the damage scale with her crit chance

It's not the best though, so building pure damage is better

[frank sparrow]

alright sick i like rail gunner but i always die due to bad survivability

[coarse mauve]

oo didn't know rg was a girl, eating up info

[steady stone]

most characters are only really revealed through like, logs or the endgame text tbf

they're pretty just general designs

[coarse mauve]

ahhh so if i have control, the tier of importance is something like
1 crit
2 debuff
3 movement speed
4 atk speed
5 healing

[steady stone]

specifically on viend crit is up there, but I'd also add damage mult above debuff, and move speed above debuff, and probably damage negation too above debuff

you'll get a feel for what you're missing with experience

but viend self heal carries

[coarse mauve]

ahh yeah def dmg neg, that makes sense

[frank sparrow]

how can i loop a run im on the stage where it says the primordial portal something what do i do so i dont fight boss?

[coarse mauve]

i was thinking why i kept doing bad with control, that honestly brings it all to view

[steady stone]

You can interact with the edge of the teleporter to aim it. Leaving the stage through any means other than the TP aimed at the moon will loop you

There should be an old pinned message with a pic of the aiming part

But you can also do the Ambry, Newt, other portals

[coarse mauve]

when you get to the teleporter before mithrix, you'll get a message in chat that says "the teleporter is aligned with the moon"

[steady stone]

uncontrollable healing can also be bad, like wungus can handicap your corruption

[coarse mauve]

just interact with the pillars around it, don't get beside the tp or else you'll just interact with it

[coarse mauve]

absolutely, i commonly avoid all forms of immediate healing due to that

[frank sparrow]

ok also are newts on every stage 100%?

[steady stone]

depending on scaling elements, full crit can fill your meter faster than Harvesters Scythe can drain it too

[steady stone]

generally but there's some jank, like a Distant Roost just simply doesn't sometimes

[coarse mauve]

medkit is easily one of the best healing items for him, it lets you take damage without it being immediately negated

[steady stone]

there's a set of spots it could be, one always spawns, some maps have guaranteed newt altars

some of them are very out of reach though, which is why they're separate from the random pool

[dusky raven]

Slug is what you really want, the boosted regen doesn’t count as healing

[steady stone]

yeah, only green numbers

[coarse mauve]

oh shit? then ill prolly need to stack slugs for him as well

usually i just loop for like 3-5 times before suplexing all 3 bosses lolol

[dusky raven]

Knurl does too but knurl is bad so we don’t talk about it

[mellow crystal]

the world if knurl was double a slug and half a bison steak instead of double a bison steak and half a slug

[coarse mauve]

actually on my monsoon run i kept accidentally looping thanks to aurelionite's portal just looping me, I accidentally went through like 8 times and it just wasn't fair at that point xP

[steady stone]

yeah, looping generally makes the game easier since items will outscale time

that and if you hit the max level, only things with Special Scaling will even get harder

stupid void rats, will never understand why they can get billions of HP...

[coarse mauve]

if you want, i have a little puzzle for ya involving a clip i took

[coarse mauve]

disgusting..

[coarse mauve]

basically the voidling died in phase 3 before i even got to the arena and im curious what killed it

[steady stone]

ah, well the arenas are just really far away from each other in the same space. It's really interesting to look at in Debug mode, all the parkour sections are side by side.
That being said, it couldve been a rocket tracking it

[coarse mauve]

this and 3 missile drones

[steady stone]

Yeah, proc a rocket with your last hit and the rocket tracks him while you're doing parkour

[coarse mauve]

damn, would a rocket really do that much?

in phase 2, i had to actually fight it, which is where my confusion stems

[steady stone]

10 rockets, 300% each, proc off a cherf that does what, 500% of a hit

[frank sparrow]

does newt appear on satelite powerup

[coarse mauve]

ye

[steady stone]

30x 3x your base hit, at least

[frank sparrow]

does it have its own icon?

[mellow crystal]

300% total damage specifically
so essentially 3x whatever procced it

and cherf is 1000% total which is insane

[steady stone]

yeah sorry cherfs just aren't real, I don't have the number memorized

[coarse mauve]

damnn alright i didn't think that the rocket could get all the way over there without hitting an obstacle

[fallen bridge]

cherf is 500%, no?

[mellow crystal]

afaik there's nothing actually obstructing the space between the arenas other than the standard teleportation triggers for if you fall off the map or go too far out

[steady stone]

wiki time

[coarse mauve]

all at lv 37, which i think changes the base damage

[steady stone]

cherf is 500%

[mellow crystal]

oh it is
wait what the fuck

[coarse mauve]

cherf, what's that short for?

[mellow crystal]

[steady stone]

charged perf

[coarse mauve]

still tryna pick up all the nicknames lol

[coarse mauve]

o h
alright i didn't know that was as insane as it is

[steady stone]

it's understandable tbh to not know the % considering nobody gets cherf
it's a myth in non-loops

[mellow crystal]

yeah that's probably because the logbook desc literally lies and says it does base damage instead of total damage

or actually wait it doesn't specify does it

[coarse mauve]

wtf xD

[coarse mauve]

lemme pull it up

[steady stone]

but you could also mult sticky bomb damage off of the ATG off of the cherf

[mellow crystal]

either way "500% damage" should be assumed to be base damage instead of total since that's what's used for survivor skill descs and stuff

[steady stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/943509112258428958/1250225925811994655/PROCCHAIN.png?ex=6836ef60&is=68359de0&hm=540b6fbc316c3e864cedf45009f0ac64e49cb60970f44e6d4d7d1f5409b6e8b3&

[coarse mauve]

wait

[lavish jacinth]

just gonna add that voidling has been really glitchy lately, a rocket could've killed it but it could've also just teleported out of bounds or something and died

[coarse mauve]

cherf, which needs to be procced, can proc other things??