ror2-game-questions

[shadow steppe]

Sorry I was in my game

Still in a run but gon end soon

Tbh id like both of those if it doesn't sound greedy lol

[brittle shuttle]

well getting the survivor will also get you a skin for whoever youre playing as

i can do one run

[shadow steppe]

Im tryna unlock artifact of sacrifice

Ima be done soon or die that alright

[shadow steppe]

U there

[simple osprey]

uhm I just interaccted with a shrine and lost all my items except 3 and it said "you have been sequenced"

whats this

thats so annoying it felt like that'd be the run

[mellow crystal]

shrine of order

essentially it picks one item you have of each rarity, then turns all of your other items of the same rarity into that item

so let's say you have , one each
you hit shrine of order, it randomly decides to pick , , and
you now have 3 , 2 , and 2

pretty goofy shrine

[simple osprey]

I feel like this stuff should be explained somewhere ingame before you do it and ruin the run

[placid mauve]

hopefully getting nerfed in phase 3
Why

[placid mauve]

Pretty sure the inspect menu literally says what it does but ok

[simple osprey]

theres an inspect menu?

[placid mauve]

Yeah you just hold tab near an interactable

I think it's off by default in the settings

[simple osprey]

omg

that would sure have been nice to know about

[daring cloak]

Thats why you always check the settings

Theres a chance that nifty tools like this one are hidden in the settings

[simple osprey]

devs and hiding super useful things 😠

[lavish jacinth]

Inspect item really should just be on by default

[young geyser]

because it'd be more fun if the game wasn't trivial almost every run on son

[daring cloak]

True

Im interested in doing fs eclipse but knowing how free runs with him are I prefer to wait so that he hopefully isnt so op anymore that it becomes boring

[simple osprey]

definitely should

[tropic cloak]

Is there anything you can do to unstuck/kill a lunar chimera stuck in a pillar or is the run just dead

[lavish jacinth]

most AoE attacks can go through terrain and hit them, but if you don't have anything that explodes then it's probably dead

[tropic cloak]

Do railgunners mines do anything?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, unless they can somehow push it back out of the pillar, but idk if they can

[tropic cloak]

Imma try salvage this run

I could not

[mellow crystal]

rip
at least now you can take preventive measures by downloading this mod if ya want to

[brittle shuttle]

would you have more fun playing a game that mildly challenges you or a game that holds your hand every step of the way

would you rather play monsoon or drizzle command

+the issue with having two primaries when one completely outclasses the other in 99% of situations

[fresh umbra]

For the yes chef unlock, do i have to kill 10 bison with glaze->sear or just hit them with both in order? If the latter, can i repeatedly do it on the same bison?

[daring cloak]

Fairly sure you have to hit them with glaze and then kill them with sear

[burnt hatch]

I've been having a lot of issues trying to kill the false son boss what survivor would it would be the easiest to kill him with

[lavish jacinth]

I had a really easy time doing it with Acrid

[burnt hatch]

I've honestly never played acrid much

[lavish jacinth]

the key with FS is to play defensively and wear him down, which Acrid is really good at

and poison is great against final bosses in general

[burnt hatch]

yeah my few attempts I have getting there I've gotten 2 shot and died in 3 seconds.

My best attempt so far was with huntress

[trim lynx]

acrid also got fast on-demand movement

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's best not to be aggressive, stay near the pillars and poke him when you see a good opportunity for it, and keep an eye on the geodes so you can cleanse ruin/silence when it happens

[mellow crystal]

anyone with good spammable basekit mobility is good since phase 1 absolutely requires it and it makes phases 2 & 3 easier
so primarily
is also super good since false son loves targeting minions

[placid mauve]

You could try getting enough items to facetank

[lavish jacinth]

was about to say, minions are absurdly effective

it's kinda hard to keep drones alive in that fight, but respawnable minions like beetle guard are incredibly good

[placid mauve]

Most easy on probably captain or mul-t since they're the least squishy except himself

[burnt hatch]

see yeah I've tried to just get loads of items so I could facetank but that didn't end up well I had horrible luck

[lavish jacinth]

for whatever reason his AI LOVES attacking minions

I wouldn't recommend facetanking anything lol

[mellow crystal]

aggressiveness is actually pretty viable in phases 2 and 3 but ONLY if you already know what you're doing and have the boss practiced

[burnt hatch]

I'll try engi out and see how that goes

[lavish jacinth]

a lot of his attacks literally apply a debuff that makes you take more damage

[mellow crystal]

and in p1 one of these attacks can literally instakill you point-blank because it's a shotgun

[lavish jacinth]

yep, I've had that happen

I lost a loader run the other day to him perfectly shotgunning my as I swung past him lol

[placid mauve]

Only takes like 15 or so of each of warped echo, tougher times, repulsion armour, infusions, not that many more items to get

[placid mauve]

Sure when do you end up getting that you just use a pillar but the principle of getting enough items so his damage isn't a problem remains a good strategy

[burnt hatch]

If I can't get it with engi I'll try acrid out

[mellow crystal]

facetanking can at least kinda work on mithrix or voidling as long as you don't tank the most damaging attacks but the thing with fs is that all of his main attacks (not counting things like the pillars that pop up when he slams) are hard-hitting as hell

[burnt hatch]

Appreciate it guys

[placid mauve]

Nah mithrix is much much harder to facetank, basically at all stages of a run he can still wreck you in any melee shot

[lavish jacinth]

I mean... if you're getting 15 stacks of a bunch of defensive items then you're probably looping and using command, and at that point it's kinda hard to lose anyway lol. Just get a bunch of damage and delete him

[placid mauve]

Ok but he wants to beat false son, looping like once isn't a problem

[burnt hatch]

Also what does you hear thunder rumbling mean in chat

[lavish jacinth]

it means there's a halcyon shrine somewhere on the stage

[burnt hatch]

okay I thought so but wasn't 100%

[fresh umbra]

Is it possible for kin to spawn only bison on stage 1 shattered abodes?

Nvm i got kin + dissonance to give bison on stage 1 roost

[burnt hatch]

engi did it

[mellow crystal]

engineer gaming

[rancid jewel]

What stage 5 has more credits?

[hoary sedge]

helminth has 50 more

[tawdry hearth]

What are some good items for loader?

[lavish jacinth]

just to name a few standouts
stuff like crits and total damage procs are also good as always, basically anything that can multiply her damage

oh, is also handy

movement speed is actually pretty low priority because it doesn't affect grapple speed and she has insane mobility already, still good to have but not as much as other survivors

[peak scaffold]

is this good

[lavish jacinth]

your items? they're okay, pretty light on damage but it's still early game

[peak scaffold]

ight

[peak scaffold]

are these better

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, drone parts is completely busted, if you buy some more drones you can probably win with that alone.
But otherwise eh, you've only got a handful of items that directly increase your dps, plus a little bit of aoe. I wouldn't bother stacking any more tougher times than that

[peak scaffold]

ight

[lavish jacinth]

and make sure you're finding your lockboxes/void caches, don't let those keys go to waste

[peak scaffold]

i now have 5 needle ticks if thats good

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, getting better

there's no such thing as too much damage

as a rule of thumb, item priority is damage > mobility > healing/defense

[peak scaffold]

ight thx for the info!

[final socket]

Ive got a halcyon seed via the artifact of rebirth and it hasn’t spawned him in the first stage is that a bug or

[daring cloak]

Aurelionite only spawns during teleporter events and during last phases of the false son and mithrix bossfights

[final socket]

I triggered the teleported of the first stage that’s what I mean

He never spawned

[daring cloak]

Huh thats odd

Do you have an image of the tp event happening without her spawining?

[final socket]

I mean I don’t think so but I can clip what happened

Then I’ll try take one

Ok nvm I’ve been in the lobby too long

I’m on console

[outer sierra]

my executive card suddenly has a 20 second cooldown, anyone have an idea why? its combined with forgive me please, but that is in the secondary not primary slot. so im unsure

and it was fine even with that, with no cooldown

[peak scaffold]

is this decent

[shadow steppe]

Finally got false son after forever and I can't tell what's harder getting or using him

[lavish jacinth]

ok, the is basically an automatic win- but otherwise yeah, that's getting better. Razorwire on rex is always a nice combo to get

[lavish jacinth]

he feels pretty janky at first but he's absurdly strong once you get used to it

[lavish jacinth]

weird visual bug ig? technically card always has a 0.1s cooldown but there's nothing that makes equipment cooldowns longer.
I haven't heard of that happening but if you have any mods running that might be causing it

[tardy garden]

am i just unlucky or why won't artifact of command give me plasma shrimp? in like 4/5 times it's only been the same item pool

[outer sierra]

nope, it dosent affect terminals, they close

[outer sierra]

diffrent lunar item raritys so yeah, just unlucky sory man

[tardy garden]

Alright

[lavish jacinth]

ah, I thought this meant it was still working normally

are you running any mods?

[outer sierra]

the only item mods, are starstorm, and acient scpeter stand alone. idk what else could be afftectin it

[lavish jacinth]

in that case it could be a bug with a certain mod or just a modded item doing it, idk what all the starstorm items do off the top of my head.
It wouldn't even necessarily have to be an item mod that causes it, mods can just have weird bugs sometimes

it could also be a rare unreported vanilla bug but mods are more likely

[tardy garden]

Even if they're in the same order every single time? I've opened a void cradle on every stage and had an encrusted key for 3 of them now and it's all just the same items each time in the same order 😔

[lavish jacinth]

wiki says there's a bug with encrusted key where it only gives white void items if you have command enabled

[tardy garden]

ohhh

[lavish jacinth]

as far as getting the same ones every time, that's probably just luck

[tardy garden]

😔

[unkempt plume]

They haven’t added cross play between consoles yet right?

[daring cloak]

And they probably never will

[covert bolt]

the good mithrix portal goes counter clock-wise right

asking bcz i keep getting the one by blood pillars

[daring cloak]

There are multiple portals that lead to good destinations

And not every portal appears every time

[lavish jacinth]

3 and 7 are the best ones

[covert bolt]

i think i keep going to five lol

thanks btw

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Mithrix#Arena_Escape_Portals in case you wanna see where they all go

[mellow crystal]

the fact that the pillar wisp exists and the 9th portal's spawnpoint is also in a pillar makes me feel like they forgot the pillars existed when placing the spawnpoints for stuff 😭

like they used the phase 1 arena as a reference point

that or the pillars were an afterthought added afterwards

[lavish jacinth]

except the pillar wisp is a new bug

[mellow crystal]

it is???
how does that even work

[lavish jacinth]

no idea

iirc there was at least one wisp that spawned near a pillar, so maybe the spawnpoints just got nudged a bit somehow? idk

[mellow crystal]

probably

[scenic acorn]

is there anyone who makes taking the fuel array to Rex easier?

[steady stone]

Loader has speed and shield on m1 for survivability, with built in armor

The best strat only works in multiplayer, as can put the cell in the inactive slot, but they dont have a drop pod

[lavish jacinth]

False son is also probably a good option if you have him unlocked, not sure it would be any easier than loader but false son is good at everything

[scenic acorn]

he doesn't drop in a pod so I would have to do co op for that strat as well

[dull monolith]

Same situation with Void Fiend

He can consistently heal but he doesn't spawn in a drop pod

[lavish jacinth]

Nvm I'm stupid lmao

[honest badger]

Captain is the best in my opinion

[prime parcel]

should I use crowdfunder or targetting hud on void fiend?

I have 4 crit glasses and a predator's instinct already

and essentially 0 void items (just one voidsent flame)

[honest badger]

crowdfunder is generally better

[lavish jacinth]

with 4 lenses, crowdfunder is probably gonna do more for corruption uptime than ocular hud will

[tawdry hearth]

Wrong, it's obviously the goodest boi

[prime parcel]

got super close to beating mithrix

died to the walls

[lavish jacinth]

the trick with big spinny (yes that's what it's called) is to stay close to it and move along with them, trying to dodge them at a distance is basically RNG

[prime parcel]

managed to get through the first one but started playing safer so I couldn't get to the next phase before he did another

probably could've done better with better corruption management

[lavish jacinth]

he only uses it when he's below 75%hp in phase 3 and he always alternates between spinny and the big shockwave attack on a 30s cooldown, so you can sorta predict when it'll happen and be ready for it

[twin valley]

is there a reason why rex

[prime parcel]

I'd a assume this but do bands not get affected by crowbar if the proccing hit puts the enemy below 95%? (or whatever the crowbar threshold was)

[unkempt plume]

I’m having the same problem. Any help?

I did find a workaround a while back with a friend that I used to play with but now it’s happening again and I don’t remember the workaround we used

[daring cloak]

Did you turn crossplay off?

[unkempt plume]

Just did and the game restarted

Why? Does it matter that much?

[daring cloak]

Thats probably the issue

[daring cloak]

Crossplay breaks like
Everything lmao

It also uses epic games servers instead of steam servers iirc

[unkempt plume]

Bruh

Yeah it fixed the problem. Jesus

The chat still doesn’t pop up when I invite him tho but at least the inv is being sent now

[unkempt plume]

So I haven’t rly bothered with artifacts at all. Any1 that doesn’t mind giving me a rundown or smth? They seem useful

[high forum]

They’re game modifiers that you activate at the beginning of a run. They can really change up the default game flow. You unlock them by using a special computer in the 5th level and entering in codes that you find scattered throughout the other levels.

[hoary sedge]

also most of them are more like challenge modifiers, but there are a few that help you and can be useful for getting unlocks

[unkempt plume]

Should I actually try to find the codes in game or should I just look them up online and enter them in the 5th stage?

[high forum]

You can absolutely just look them up, but I think part of the experience of the game is trying to find at least a few yourself :) There's generally 1 code per stage/area, with just a couple exceptions. Try searching around the first levels just to see if you can do it

although now that there are more levels added I guess it's harder...there are only codes on Distant Roost and Titanic Plains (for the first levels)

[amber raft]

recently got back to ROR2, considering maybe buying SOTS. Is the DLC pretty good by now? (Please ping on answer)

[mellow crystal]

it's pretty good yeah, the only things that need tweaking are the survivors but the reworks for them are planned

when in doubt dlc venn diagram

[hoary sedge]

also sotv adds a lot more enemies than sots

and imo the sotv enemies are better designed and less annoying to fight

[brittle shuttle]

i think both dlc enemies stank in their own regards

Tho sotv has a few more bangers albeit very few

[amber raft]

annoying enemies lmao. I already have SotV and mostly wanted seekers for the stages and items, the seeker or whatever she's called also seemed kind of neat. I am currently doing my first voidling run and not excited at all to see what "Horrible final boss" could mean 😅

[amber raft]

nevermind i died in the void

[unkempt plume]

Well i have found 2 or 3 sm months ago but I never rly used them so ig it’s ok looking them up now

[high forum]

yeah, once you find a few, the charm kind of goes away. it was fun to find them when the artifact update first came out but now it might be kind of a slog haha

[unkempt plume]

I get that it’s part of the experience also but you have to do it through screenshots right? That feels like it ruins the experience a bit too

[high forum]

yeah, screenshots or just writing it down

[daring cloak]

Or remembering

[unkempt plume]

Also I’ve been in a run for 70 minutes and I can’t find the teleporter in the mushroom map. I’m frustrated

Saw on Reddit that it could be a bug where it spawns inside a wall or smth

[daring cloak]

Most likely not

[lavish jacinth]

Keep an eye out for orange particles in the air, and remember that it's usually far from where you spawned

You can also go into settings and turn on teleporter particle scaling (or whatever the setting is called, I forget) to make the particles easier to spot

[unkempt plume]

Might do that. Nvm that now tho. Sry for the many questions today but I got another one

So I watched this vid today

https://youtu.be/ojam95JjACo?si=LypogyTHl7R0pshu

[lavish jacinth]

Dw about it, it's what the channel is for lol

[unkempt plume]

Thought I’d try doing it. Everything worked except for the one for the secondary ability. I explode myself with the panel from the pod next to the beetles and it doesn’t rly work. The rest of them worked tho. Any idea why? Maybe they patched it or smth?

[lavish jacinth]

Very unlikely they patched it (at least not intentionally).
Remember that you have to COMPLETELY kill the boss, so if there are multiple boss enemies and one of them survives, it won't work

The 1-second timer also starts as soon as the boss takes damage, so you can't let anything else damage them (I forget if damage from allies counts but I assume it does)

[unkempt plume]

Aight I’ll try again

[ancient fulcrum]

thats one of those challenges that didn’t unlock when i thought it would until one day it did

[unkempt plume]

Nah it doesn’t work for sm reason. I’ve tried like 6 times. Idk maybe they patched it

[lavish jacinth]

it could be a bug, but I don't see any reason it would be patched

the game has been buggy as of late so a bug is a lot more likely

[steady stone]

I was messing around with DebugToolKit yesterday or the day before, and saw that the fuel array explosion is actually it's own enemy that you can spawn_as
If that's new, that could be why it wouldn't do the unlock anymore

[dusky raven]

can Rex apply Collapse to itself with needletick?

[mellow crystal]

no

[steady stone]

No, self damage has no proc coeff

[mellow crystal]

self-damage doesn't ha
yeah

[dusky raven]

huh

[steady stone]

Proc coeff is the chance multiplier basically
viend beam has 0.625 so a 10% chance gets multiplied by that to apply

[dusky raven]

I think I got hit right as I used disperse and somehow the procs got confused

[mellow crystal]

on-hit efffects only trigger on damage which has what's called a proc coeficient

[dusky raven]

no I know what a proc co is

[lavish jacinth]

what the gearbox

[dusky raven]

but I got hit with the same amount of collapse as I applied to an enemy at the exact same time

[mellow crystal]

i summon fuel arra💥

[dusky raven]

no voidtouched anywhere

[steady stone]

yeah it just like kills you instantly when you spawnas

[dusky raven]

i got hit with a golem beam at the same time i used disperse, and got 2 stacks of collapse

[steady stone]

Of course I hadn't checked the list of characters pre-sots though, so I can't know if it's actually new

[dusky raven]

and I was pretty sure it didn't work that way because theres no self procs so thats all i can think of

[lavish jacinth]

I've messed around with weird spawns in dbtk pre-sots and I don't remember seeing it either, but I could've missed it. Either way, the explosion not working for the unlock is new

[chrome wigeon]

guys please help idk what to do

i launched the game and this just popped up

[tawdry hearth]

Oh all wise faxmachine what items are peak for

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-tech-support might be able to help, check pins first. Worst case scenario, you can start a new profile and use the realercheatunlocks mod to get your progress back

[chrome wigeon]

i dont have any mods installed or anything, its been like a few weeks since i played the game thats about it

[chrome wigeon]

no wayyyyyyy ; /

[lavish jacinth]

Acrid likes damage multipliers to boost poison damage, etc.. Proc items are also good as always, especially if you like playing him more aggressively. Other DoTs like bleed or gasoline can be handy to finish off enemies on 1hp too

If you wanna run blight then look for anything that gives cooldown reduction or extra skill charges along with the stuff mentioned above so you can spam skills and stack it

[analog brook]

This is the same as gearbox adding the mysterious fucking floating rock inside the commencement tree for no reason

[unkempt plume]

Yeah but it still worked for the other 2. Killing 15 enemies while airborne and the other one that I don’t remember. So it doesn’t rly make sense

[unkempt plume]

That’s kinda sad. This game has been showed love from both the devs and the community. Bruh

Won’t they fix the things that r wrong with it?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's still getting updates

[steady stone]

eventually

gearbox doesn't have ror2 too high on the priority list

the other games make millions and billions of dollars

[daring cloak]

And certain bugs may take ages to fix

[steady stone]

especially because they are just picking up someone else's project in the middle of it

John Valve Hopoo

[lavish jacinth]

gearbox probably doesn't have their most experienced people working on ror2 either

in fact I kinda wonder if it's mostly artists and designers rather than seasoned programmers, considering the one thing that's consistently been really good is the visual stuff (not counting visual bugs)

[steady stone]

the ror2 team specifically is passionate but yeah, that's mostly why I brought up the priority list

[steady stone]

oh, the visual stuff is just easier to miss
spawn and kill a stone titan while looking at the console for a screen full of animation and particle errors

[lavish jacinth]

like I said, not counting visual bugs

[steady stone]

oh, I'm tired 😭

[lavish jacinth]

but like, there's a ton of detail that's been put into visuals, like the kill counter on chronic expansion or the flower crown on growth nectar that changes based on how many buffs you have

and the stages just looking really good in general

yeah, it's worth it

[fallen bridge]

i generally start it early & use the golems for cash ... once i get a few items i'll finish it & fight halc

[unkempt plume]

any tips for mercenary's prismatic trial challenge?

[hoary sedge]

wait for glass and/or command to roll on the trial, and losing barrier doesnt count as falling below max health for the challenge so brooch is really good for it

theres also a guy that does the unlock for every day's trial, he posts the videos in #prismatic-trials if you need a route template

other than that its basically just get gud and learn to abuse dash and evisc iframes

[unkempt plume]

🗿

Also just the temple with the green portal spawn on every first stage?

Cause i looped from 5 to 1 and u can’t find it

[lavish jacinth]

the halcyon shrine? it's very common on stage 1 but not guaranteed

[unkempt plume]

Oh

To find another halcyon shrine for a golden portal while going through the green ones, is that guaranteed?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, but there are other ways to get to gilded coast, either through a gold altar or having it randomly appear in a lunar seer

[unkempt plume]

Gold altars are rare tho

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, but they can be on any stage except the very first one

and getting a halcyon shrine on path of the colossus isn't much more common

[unkempt plume]

I wanted to unlock false son, found a halcyon shrine on the first stage then found another one while going through the green portals and when I got the seed I accidentally entered the golden portal

And when I reached stage five and looped back to one I didn’t get a halcyon shrine

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[unkempt plume]

Yep

Restart might be the best option atp

[lavish jacinth]

maybe

path of the colossus stages can also appear in lunar seers

oh wait no, they added a guaranteed way to get there, I totally forgot

in the bazaar there are 3 hidden geodes in random spots you can break to get a green portal

[unkempt plume]

Oh nice

[lavish jacinth]

it can only be done in the first 3 stages of each loop tho, so if you're at stage 4 or 5 you'll have to go around again

[unkempt plume]

But altars aren’t guaranteed either tho

[lavish jacinth]

they pretty much are

a few stages have guaranteed ones (usually in harder-to-reach spots), and the ones that don't almost always have one

assuming you mean newt altars

[unkempt plume]

Ye

I’ll try that ty for the info

Uuh how do the geodes look

[lavish jacinth]

they're pretty well-hidden but guaranteed to spawn, so just look carefully

[unkempt plume]

Aight Ty might give an update later 🫡

[unkempt plume]

In what parts of the bazaar would the geodes be?

I feel like there’s no place to look for them

[lavish jacinth]

the wiki lists all of their locations https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Bazaar_Between_Time

[unkempt plume]

Oh it says you must have not used a green portal or a halcyon shrine so that the geodes can spawn in the bazaar

[lavish jacinth]

oh, I missed that part lol

[unkempt plume]

Haha it’s alr

[unkempt plume]

Does putting a code for an artifact and getting it loops u back to stage 1 the same way that shifting the destination on the 5th stage does?

Also if a haylcon shrine has alrdy been spawned and used in the first stage can it spawn again on a loop?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[lavish jacinth]

it can, but if you've already been to PoTC once it'll spawn a gold portal instead of green. But if you're on stage 1-3 in the loop, gilded coast will have a green portal when you complete it

also protip, don't pick up a second stack of halcyon seed after killing aurelionite

[unkempt plume]

Why?

[lavish jacinth]

you'll see

[unkempt plume]

Also why would I go through a golden portal a second time? I lost y there a bit

Or maybe I didn’t get what u meant by PoTC

[lavish jacinth]

Path of the Colossus

[unkempt plume]

Why can’t I just know 🗿

Why make the mistake

[lavish jacinth]

because spoilers
||Aurelionite turns on you in the last phase of the false son fight||

[unkempt plume]

Well I’m still in the same run so this sums up what happened

[unkempt plume]

I saw that in a yt vid. Wait so that only happens if u have 2 seeds?

[lavish jacinth]

nah, but having 2 seeds will make aurelionite stronger

[lavish jacinth]

going through the gold portal will take you gilded coast, and from gilded coast you can take a green portal to get back to the alt path

but if you're already at gilded coast then the gold portal there just takes you back to normal stages

[unkempt plume]

I’m at stage 5 going for a second loop hoping that the shrine appears

Or I’ll have to find a way to get to gilded coast

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

it would be worth it to keep checking the bazaar on stage 1-3 to see if gilded coast or the alt path stages show up in the seers

[unkempt plume]

Alt path stages?

Also for gilded coast in the bazaar it says golden dream right?

[lavish jacinth]

path of the colossus

and yeah, it says you dream of wealth

look for the golden rings in the portal thing

[unkempt plume]

The geodes u mean? Or can tha bazaar have the path of the colossus in the portals too?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, they can show up in the portals

[unkempt plume]

Oh

What will the pofc look like in the portals?

[lavish jacinth]

I think they just use the normal level previews that you see in the logbook (and on the wiki)

[unkempt plume]

Danm I went to the bazaar once for the geodes and the next newt altar I saw I skipped it since the geodes won’t spawn in this run

This run is making my brain hurt with all the thins I’m learning along and the mistakes I made

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, routing path of the colossus can be annoying, at least there are plenty of ways to get there though

[unkempt plume]

Is there a way to get to gilded coast through PoTC?

[sick sand]

ive played a prismatic trial or two and is it worth playing? is there a way to play co-op?
or any fun challenge run ideas in general? itemless? eclipse? etc

[lavish jacinth]

prismatic trial is basically just for speedrunning and competing for the best time, there's no way to do co-op

[lavish jacinth]

yes, if a halcyon shrine spawns there, I think they can have gold altars too

[chrome glade]

What’s a easiest way to unlock Rex abilities I just got the 1k healing one

[lavish jacinth]

there aren't really a lot of strats to make the other ones easier, you kinda just have to do them. One thing that helps for bushwhacked is stacking shields, 7 stacks of will mean that more than half your health is shield, then you just need use m2 to break your shields and keep them from regenerating, and you'll still have normal health while technically being under 50%.

For the dunked one, there's really nothing you can do to make it easier, just go to abandoned aqueduct and hope for a dunestrider, then use your utility to shove it around.

[chrome glade]

At what point do dunestrider spawn

[lavish jacinth]

you can get them as a teleporter boss at any time on abandoned aqueduct, so stage 2 would be the earliest

you kinda just have to reset until you get one, using lunar seers and turning off SotV so aphelian sanctuary doesn't spawn will help with the stage rng at least

but that one is pretty dumb and random lol

you could loop and try to get one as a natural spawn, but usually runs are so chaotic during loops that you might have a hard time shoving it into the pit without killing it (or being killed yourself)

Eh, it's pretty situational. Most survivors can benefit from chance-based items, specifically total damage procs, because they deal a % of the hit that procced them. Loader won't proc an atg as often as commando, but when it does proc, it deals a ton of damage, so it's still an overall dps increase. And procs are incredibly strong overall so giving them up for purity is a huge tradeoff.

Personally I wouldn't bother taking purity unless I'm late into a run and don't have any proc items yet (or the ones I do have aren't helping much, like a single stun grenade on loader for example)

(and for the record, merc and arti both have good proc potential, and merc literally has built-in cooldown reduction already)

but if you do take purity, it's worth it to stack as many as you need to get your cooldowns all the way to the minimum amount, because even a single stack will completely cripple proc items (unless they can stack their proc chance to 100% like crits or sticky bomb)

[hollow igloo]

Is 100%ing the environmental logbooks possible right now, or is it still bugged?

[amber raft]

If i am hosting for my friends when they dont have DLC but i do, if we do some DLC unlock (like defeating voidling) will they have it unlocked if they buy the DLC later?

[mellow crystal]

no

if someone in the lobby has the dlc then everyone in the lobby has access to the dlc EXCEPT for survivors and unlocks

[unkempt plume]

Are there survivors that r better for the false son boss fight or should I just play whatever?

[hoary sedge]

having a good mobility skill is kinda important for phase 1 if you get unlucky with movement items, but other than that just do whoever.

viend can self-cleanse lunar ruin which is nice

[lavish jacinth]

I had a pretty easy time doing it with Acrid, you can just focus on dodging and let poison do the work

Engie's also pretty good since turrets can draw aggro, false son has severe ADHD and gets easily distracted by minions, even more than mithrix

[old wren]

can someone Explain that (vanilla)

[lavish jacinth]

have you played the enforcer mod at any point?

[old wren]

yes

[lavish jacinth]

then that would be why

modded characters can stay in your profile stats even if the mod isn't installed

[old wren]

that is PURE vanilla

[lavish jacinth]

okay but

even if you don't have the mod on currently, it'll still be in your stats

[daring cloak]

That enforcer object also just exists in vanilla, a mod prolly just used it instead of creating its own object

[lavish jacinth]

that too

[lusty tartan]

It's impossible to do captain 10 unique stages without looping?

I assume it's 5 for the normal route, 3 for Halc, Newtwo and Void Fields, 2 for Mithrix and Voidling

Does it count?

[daring cloak]

Yeah any stage and hidden realm counts

[lusty tartan]

So it is possible to do the achievement without looping?

[daring cloak]

Lemme think for a bit

5 normal stages, bazaar, gilded coast, void fields, prime meridian and uhhhhhhhh

And ig the moon

[lusty tartan]

Prime meridian?

Doesn't it count for stage 4?

[daring cloak]

No, it used to but now if you exit prime meridian you go to a regular stage 4

[unkempt plume]

Went to gilded coast got the seed and there’s no green portal. Only the gold one. Any idea why?

[lavish jacinth]

It happens if you're on stage 4 or 5.
The colossus stages need to align with the normal stage order, and since they correspond to stages 2-4, you can only get there from stages 1-3

[lusty tartan]

Can I spawn green portal in bazaar if I enter from stage 3? In this case I would go directly to prime meridian?

Destroying the gold things in the bazaar

[daring cloak]

You cant

[hoary sedge]

iirc you can go to meridian from a stage 3 gilded coast though

[unkempt plume]

Man why is it so hard to unlock false son u have to be rly lucky. You either have to get gilded coast on the baazar Or get a haylcon shrine on the first stage and then another one on the first green portal u enter

There must be an easier way or smth

[daring cloak]

No not really

But thats a lot of options

[unkempt plume]

That need luck

[daring cloak]

Yes

[brittle shuttle]

just take bazaar each stage that alone is a decently high chance of coast showing up

And keep looping till it does show up

[steady stone]

With good loops you can clear a stage every minute or two, if you just go straight to TP

[unkempt plume]

Gt get items too tho so

Also is a newt altar guaranteed on every stage?

[steady stone]

By like stage 6 or 7 you can just buy a few things while zooming around, it's an afk game

[steady stone]

with the very few exceptions like distant roost iirc

[hoary sedge]

there's guaranteed to be at least one on the map on every stage except one sirens call variant, but it's not guaranteed to be easily accessible

so like it can spawn behind the locked door on roost but if you have enough mobility you can just go around the walls

[lavish jacinth]

protip, artifact of sacrifice increases the spawnrate of shrines, including the altar of gold and halcyon shrine. Command helps too but not as much. (No chests or printers/scrappers = more shrines)
Getting the halcyon seed is the only really luck-dependent part of the process, since you always have the option of using the geodes in the bazaar to get to path of the colossus as long as you didn't already go there once

[tender nova]

Is seeker only 1 revive per round?

[wide parrot]

Per stage, and only if you get 7 Serenity first

[lavish jacinth]

it's specifically the 7th use of meditate on each stage that does the revive, so if you want to save the revive you shouldn't get more than 6 stacks of tranquility per stage

[whole urchin]

Any strategies in getting serrated shiv easily?

[lavish jacinth]

stab alloy worship unit a bunch, that's pretty much it. Backup mags and cooldown reduction help but aren't required

getting 20 stacks is easy, the hard part is just getting a boss that can tank the damage long enough, hence AWU. Aurelionite works too

[whole urchin]

Okey dokey

My previous strategy was going monsoon and repeatedly stabbing the portal bosses with backup mags and cooldowns

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's technically possible if you get enough mags and attack speed to apply all 20 stacks before the boss dies, but the AWU method is simplest and most reliable

[whole urchin]

I was doing that with purities as well

[peak scaffold]

does occular hud double railgunners damage

[lavish jacinth]

it increases her damage, but crit damage bonuses are halved because it's adding to an existing multiplier. So +100% crit is +50% overall damage, because crits go from 2x to 3x

(same with laser scope)

[peak scaffold]

wait so is it bad that i js got laser scope and hud?

[lavish jacinth]

nah, on railgunner specifically, scope is pretty decent. +50% damage good is when you can get guaranteed crits. In total you'd be getting 4x damage on crits with scope and hud active

[peak scaffold]

nice

[lavish jacinth]

normally scope kinda sucks though, except on railgunner and bandit- for everyone else it tends to just be worse than behemoth

but scope does have the advantage of working better with crowbars and bands

[peak scaffold]

ight

i have ice band and crowbar so hopefully thats good

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[vestal radish]

7th use grants Golden Leaf ( functionality) to all alive teammates

[vestal radish]

cirt modifier is x2.0, adds +1.0 so it becomes x3.0 (+50% dmg buff)
with railgunner passive, gives +0.1 to modifier (+5% dmg buff) and gives +1.0 to modifier (+50% dmg buff)

[vestal radish]

[peak holly]

Tesla is blacklisted

[vestal radish]

On kills if you leave drones alive for last phase

Ohhh

Always forget about that

[peak holly]

Most of the bad ones are blacklisted

Tritip can be scary though

And Nkuhanas while rare will instantly kill you if he is able to fire one

[vestal radish]

lets he real, p4 mithrix one shots you with any tap no matter what

it is no hit test

[peak holly]

Mmm no not as of the last few years

[vestal radish]

Skulls go through walls and have insane travel time with range

[peak holly]

Before that it was a death sentence to be hit

[vestal radish]

and their dmg scales with hp and p4 is quite fat

[burnt heron]

Pre-patch Warped Echo

[placid eagle]

How does Lepton Daisy work in Simalcrum, it feels like the heal is random

was in rorr before

[honest badger]

works the same but it's always active on void cells

so just periodic healing

[jolly wedge]

https://x.com/wdyreallyknow/status/1917272998652043740?t=hZrtkQn6FjjWoSCC-2-NHg&s=19
wtf is the map in this gif?

Onigiri (@wdyreallyknow) on X

@hourly_shitpost

X · Apr 29, 2025, 5:41 PM

[tired anvil]

is bottled chaos any good??? doing an engineer run

also what is this

[honest badger]

a character unlock

you have to bring an item to it

[tired anvil]

fuel array?

[vast tiger]

yea

you haven't gotten this guy yet?

[tired anvil]

no because fuel array makes me super paranoid

[vast tiger]

it should

[honest badger]

captain is a good pick for it

you dont get hit as much

[vast tiger]

Do you wanna run it?

idr if i can carry it for you but

[tired anvil]

ill probably just run drizzle so i can do it with no troubles

does the character only spawn on that one level or is it on every stage 4 map

[mellow crystal]

only abyssal yea

[vast tiger]

that level that spot

[honest badger]

sundered grove the only stage 4 with no character

[zinc glade]

What is the formula for mercenaries attack speed scaling with his special? Couldn’t find anything on the wiki
How much attack speed is needed for an extra hit

[primal vector]

pre early access footage

[high forum]

That’s from before the game was even in early access! Probably just a test level

[foggy vessel]

kinda looks like an early version of wetland aspect

[chrome glade]

What’s giving me a the extra LT ability

[brittle shuttle]

Slam?

Read the survivors desc

Holding primary and secondary charges a slam

Or are you talking about the extra stocks

False sons entire gimmick is hp items

The more health items you have = the more stocks of secondary you have, and empowers your specials

And secondary gives extra stats depending on how much spikes you have

[waxen nova]

If is activated while it's still going on, does the screen become darker/more red?

[analog brook]

Yes, it becomes darker-blueish

[daring cloak]

No I dont think the visual stacks on itself

Otherwise this wouldve completely blinded everyone

[waxen nova]

That's what i wanted to do though 😦

[chrome glade]

Is it better to have both bands or the void band?

[daring cloak]

Bands

In pretty much every situation bands are better

[analog brook]

Oooohhh I thought it was just asking about if it happens, minor kerfuffle

[fresh umbra]

“Would you rather have $1

Or $2”

(Dollars being unique bands)

[lavish jacinth]

Comparing bands is more like $5.5 per day vs $2 and a coupon that may or may not be expired every 2 days

[steady stone]

but that coupon gets 3x the value based on your character, like diablo spam

[tawdry hearth]

When doing huntresses no damage challenge, well taking damage with having shields cause the challenge to be a lost?

[lavish jacinth]

Shields will, but barrier won't

[tawdry hearth]

Topaz brooch about to go insane

[lavish jacinth]

You can also use artifact of glass or shaped glass, less max hp doesn't matter if you can't take damage anyway

[placid eagle]

Would wungus work with the carbonizer turrets, and would it be better than bungus, or does it just not work at all?

[steady stone]

the mobile turrets can use wungus but they only really sprint when reaaally far away and trying to catch up

[placid eagle]

ah

[chrome glade]

I was told the void band was awful but idk

[brittle shuttle]

Its not a bad item bands are just really good

[honest badger]

void band is good in some situations

[lavish jacinth]

It's worth taking if you're about to go to mithrix and don't have normal bands already

[honest badger]

it's worth taking as diablo captain

[lavish jacinth]

In most cases you're better off with the raw damage from normal bands

[lavish jacinth]

Elixir is a good bungus substitute if you wanna help mobile turrets last longer, they'll get refreshed every time you rebuild them as long as you don't lose your own copy

Also useless fun fact, if you stand still to use bungus, mobile turrets will sometimes run over and stand next to you to help out

I have no idea if that's an intended mechanic or just a quirk of their AI but I've seen them do it lol

[chrome glade]

I don’t know what’s considered amazing I like roll of Pennie’s

[lavish jacinth]

Pennies would definitely not be considered amazing

[chrome glade]

I recently started scraping things a lot

[lavish jacinth]

Bands are always great though

[chrome glade]

I thought they good for Rex

[lavish jacinth]

Self damage doesn't trigger them

They're scrap by like stage 3, past that point its usually best not to take damage from enemies and they drop plenty of gold anyway

[tawdry hearth]

Honestly is engis second turret option even good lol

[steady stone]

in a damage sense it's about on par iirc, it's just meta synergy you lose

the holy grail of turret questions that i really should just download by now

losing almost exactly 1dps

[chrome glade]

Well I really don’t know what’s good I want be good at game

[chrome glade]

Is there a way to see items from past runs

[steady stone]

that's mostly experience per character
to put the essentials down, there's proc and burst characters
arrow rain might be the biggest example - it hits 19 times, so you would think it would be good for chances, right? But it has a 0.2 "proc coefficient" - which is what defines all of the proc characters
it's basically a chance multiplier, so 10% chance tritip * 0.2 means it's actually only 2% chance per hit

then you can take loader, who swings slow and only melee, so not the best proc, but her single 2700% punch can further be multiplied by, say, doing 300% of that 2700%, or ATG doing 300%, meaning either activation does 8100% on top of the 2700%

item % refers to actual percent in a multiplicitave sense, like 300% atg being 3x, while damage % such as the punch you can think of like smash bros %

well kinda, it's based off their base damage stat
but higher number good

[lavish jacinth]

Run history tab in the logbook, although it's kinda glitchy and doesn't always save runs

In general anything that multiplies damage is gonna be good, either direct multipliers or total damage procs

[steady stone]

this has the specific base damage stats that the attack %s refer to

i know when i first started, the punch doing "2700%" meant nothing lol

[lavish jacinth]

"What items are good" is a pretty broad question but basically damage > mobility > healing/defense.
And in general it's always good to mix different types of items so their effects multiply each other, especially with damage items

[chrome glade]

Here recently I started scraping things like a day or 2 ago and using printers

[steady stone]

ah, you look a little low on items, 2 greens by false son

the timer scaling isn't really that important, always try to hit every single chest in a stage

using the teleporter adds scaling too, making rushing even worse than it seems

generally with time though youll get better at looting efficiently

also i notice you have 4 white scrap on that false son death, but there's always cauldrons right before false son/mithrix for a worst case if you dont find a good printer

[lavish jacinth]

A good rule of thumb is to full clear and try to leave with more items than minutes, but it's okay to spend extra time using printers and scrappers and stuff. Basically just be efficient and spend time on stuff that's gonna make you stronger

And yeah, if you wanna maximize scrap value, it's a good idea to always get white/green scrap in increments of 3 and 5, respectively. The cauldrons at the end of the game are the most reliable place to spend scrap, especially green since green printers aren't super common.

Like, if I don't have 5 green items worth scrapping, I usually just won't bother, because weak greens are still better than green scrap that does literally nothing

(Ofc that's if you really wanna optimize, it's completely fine if you don't wanna worry about being perfectly optimal)

[chrome glade]

I traded greens for 2 red and both red for mocha

[steady stone]

mm, that gets into the synergy comment fax made earlier
it's good to get a bit of everything

pure attack speed won't do too much if nothing comes from the boost in attacks

[chrome glade]

I kinda wasn’t paying attention that run too

[lavish jacinth]

And depending on what greens and reds you traded, that probably wouldn't be worth it

Unless you has some atrocious run and traded 10 chronobaubles and 2 aegises or something

[chrome glade]

It remove armor once and some bottle

[fallen bridge]

shustice is solid, bhaos is ... well it depends

[peak scaffold]

thx

[peak scaffold]

how do you get past the door in abyssal depths

[lavish jacinth]

you don't, it's just randomly open or closed

[peak scaffold]

how do i get the newt alter thats there then

[lavish jacinth]

you don't

there are other places it can spawn though

[peak scaffold]

ok

am i ready for vields

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you'll probably be okay

[peak scaffold]

i tried to do it but i couldn't get to the next cell fast enough so i died sadly

[lavish jacinth]

rip

yeah, you gotta be mindful of how fast the fog damage ramps up now

[peak scaffold]

Didn’t know it ramps

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[peak scaffold]

Thx

[viral monolith]

How do I get the 57-leaf clover?

[cosmic mica]

Did they nerf void fields? It's doing a whole lot more damage than usual

[hoary sedge]

the unlock is clear 20 stages in 1 run, after that it just drops in the red pool

and yeah they made the vields fog damage ramp up like simulacrum

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, they made the damage ramp up the longer you're in it, but they made the ramping a bit too aggressive

[hoary sedge]

also enemies get more items if you stay outside the cells too long. the timer is also supposed to only run when you're outside a cell but I don't think that part is working rn

[chrome glade]

Whats that mean?

[hoary sedge]

like the time is supposed to be paused while you're charging the cells (like in other hidden realms) but rn it just progresses like normal. last time I checked anyway

[peak ingot]

Can ukelele or polylute proc itself?

[hoary sedge]

nope, no item can

[whole urchin]

Any way to get glorious battle achievement

[slim spoke]

rex
you only need to finish it with less than 10% hp

[lavish jacinth]

charge tp to 99%, jump off a cliff to get down to 1hp, then run back and finish it before you heal above 10%

[cunning jay]

does low quality speakers (the item) work on mithrix?

[daring cloak]

No clue about modded stuff, its best to ask in #ror2-modding too because the peeps there know their stuff

[halcyon flicker]

Hello :pika_wave:

I have a short question.
Do i lose my Crit Rate from my Lens Makers if i go for Lost Seer's Lenses?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[halcyon flicker]

[steady stone]

The most you can get is like, +5 from pred, +5 from harv, +5 from spleen, or you can run

[halcyon flicker]

Im fine i crit everything anyways

[lavish jacinth]

irradiant pearls and growth nectar can also give crit chance

[steady stone]

Oh, I mean if you lose your crit
That's the max you'll get with void

[steady stone]

crit is a base stat? wth

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[halcyon flicker]

But i have another question.
Is there a stats meter or something?

[lavish jacinth]

not in vanilla but there's a mod for it, LookingGlass

[halcyon flicker]

Is there a guide to download mods?

[steady stone]

There's probably a pin in #ror2-modding or in the modding server

basically just need Thunderstore or R2ModMan and you can browse their mod lists, just hit install on mods you want

one of the simplest modding methods

they just pull from the Thunderstore mod website to install for you

[lavish jacinth]

https://thunderstore.io/

r2modman is the mod manager, download that first and the rest is pretty easy

[halcyon flicker]

Do i need both cause it feels like this rn

[left trellis]

you only need one mod manager

[steady stone]

Thunderstore is the name of the website AND a mod manager, the only thunderstore that is used in both managers is the website

You can find r2modman on the Thunderstore website, even

[left trellis]

-# Gale is another mod manager option and I recommend it

[halcyon flicker]

It works

Thank you all ❤️

[stone lagoon]

could anyone explain why I got launched into the stratosphere?

[left trellis]

Grovetender has that one attack where it throws out a bunch of chains and if any of them hit you, you're pulled towards it

I think you were very close to the center of their body when they used that move, meaning all of the chains hit you at once and gave you a ton of instantaneous momentum

that momentum was either directed upward to begin with or redirected upward when you collided with their hitbox

[stone lagoon]

so basically, I played too aggressive and got absolutely annihilated for it?

[left trellis]

sorta. playing aggressive against GT isn't necessarily a bad idea, you just got unlucky and were in exactly the wrong place at the right time. to your credit, that attack's telegraph isn't super obvious

the move isn't supposed to send you flying off into space, the intent is moreso to force you out of position so you have to deal with momentary disadvantage, especially if you're far away from it

it can just do this sometimes if you're right up in the middle of the hitbox

[nocturne sierra]

What are the odds of getting 3 cleansing pools on stage 1

[wise bane]

I'm trying to host skip (yes, I have the kccdownpatcher on) but I don't seem to get any height from it, is it because of my angle or something like that?

[peak scaffold]

is it worth to use cd keys for the dlcs?

[stuck sorrel]

Do delicate watches synergize with transcedence?

[fallen bridge]

it takes 25% of total combined health rather than raw hp if that's what you're asking

[stuck sorrel]

ah gotcha, ty!

[unkempt plume]

Dk if these should go in game questions but is there any ror2 merch or smth? Figurines, key chains, plushies idk smth? I want a physical item or two from the game and idk if there’s anything I could get

Or where to find it

[lavish jacinth]

not really, there were some Gup and Acrid plushies a while back but they were a limited run

I'm sure you can find them on ebay or whatever along with fanmade stuff, but there isn't like an official merch store (or if it is then gearbox has done a horrible job of advertising it because I can't find it lol)

but TIL that there are numerous fake websites claiming to have "official" merch

something tells me that this might not be an official website but idk 🤔 🤔 🤔

[halcyon flicker]

How does the drop chance behave if I Artifact of Sacrifice active? Does it increase by floor?

[lavish jacinth]

it's based on the spawn cost of the enemy, stronger enemies are more likely to drop items

[halcyon flicker]

But the Drop Chance which are stated at the start never changes?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[halcyon flicker]

And Gold Chest are gone too i guess

[lavish jacinth]

guaranteed chests still spawn

[halcyon flicker]

The Golden one in the Abyssal spawns, but the one in Sundered Grove does not. Am i correct?

[lavish jacinth]

no, sundered always has a gold chest too, but there are a few different locations where it can appear

[halcyon flicker]

Alright thank you

[brittle shuttle]

I love engineer

[unkempt plume]

Well that’s a bit sad. I did found some things on Etsy that looked rly cool. Gt learn if it’s a good idea to order things from there ig

[unkempt plume]

You need to find and destroy 6 eggs in total for the boss to appear. I believe there are more on the map than 6 though

[errant stone]

hey does anyone know if the rebirth shrine works in multiplayer? (as in, can everyone put one of their items in?)

[honest badger]

once you put an item in the game ends

meaning only one person has a chance

but everyone gets the item saved

[errant stone]

damn that sucks. so you can't really do back to back rebirth runs with friends

[honest badger]

you can

when you store an item, it stores for everyone

so everyone gets the same item

[simple halo]

Are you usually able to fight mithrix normally in his third phase?

I usually just hide on a pillar and snipe him

[fallen bridge]

yah, but you do have to be more careful than p1

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you can use similar strats to p1, but be ready to get close to him when he does big spinny

[noble cloak]

do you mean phase 4?

the one with no items?

[simple halo]

Yes

Forgot the minion stage is stage 2,

[noble cloak]

okay so you can normally try to circle him

but in god runs he can have very good items

some (like tesla coil) are blacklisted

but you dont always want to stay close,

do know that he uses his skill once every 5 seconds

[honest badger]

just damage him from a distance

it's not a hard phase but it catches you off guard

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, in phase 4 the safest strat is to just stick to a pillar and poke him to death

you can circlestrafe him up close if you don't have any ranged options (or you're just impatient), but it's risky

[reef hinge]

do you need the void DLC active to get void fiend in the simulator?

[brittle shuttle]

yes he is part of the void dlc

[cunning jay]

does stun grenade not work at all on mithrix or does it just work less?

[exotic axle]

doesnt work

[cunning jay]

ngl sounds like complete trash then

[lavish jacinth]

it's good for keeping non-boss enemies stunlocked

[peak scaffold]

is it currently worth getting Sots

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

it's still got some issues but there's one more big update in the works, and overall it's pretty good

[peak scaffold]

ok, thank you!

[peak scaffold]

should i unlock solo if ive only beat mythrix once

[lavish jacinth]

unlocking him requires beating a harder version of the false son boss, so you should at least be comfortable with beating that fight first

and it's similar in difficulty to mithrix if not harder

[peak scaffold]

ight

[honest badger]

false son alone is arguably harder

with halcyonite it's not even a question

[peak scaffold]

im cooked then ig

[lavish jacinth]

it's not that bad, especially if you're looping, which you'll probably need to do at least once in order to get to FS after getting halcyon seed. But yeah, it's a tough fight if you're doing it from stage 1, even without halcyon seed, and trying to learn the fight while also doing the harder version probably won't end well

ofc if you're really struggling, there's always drizzle/command/sacrifice

[honest badger]

looping is the easy option

if you loop 1-2 times you're probably fine

[blissful reef]

is grenade good on commando? i feel like it can be really good late game

[steady stone]

It has the upside of proccing band, but suppressive is easier to use and has stun

[remote ingot]

if you use the newt altars in the green portal areas, when you leave will it take you back to the next green portal stage?

or does it send you out of that area

[mellow crystal]

it sends you out, but if you enter the bazaar from stage 1 or 2 then there'll be geodes hidden around the bazaar
if you break iirc 3 of them then it'll spawn a green portal

you can also get a green portal stage in the lunar seers but that's less reliable

[remote ingot]

interesting

[amber raft]

any tips for False Son? really struggling with the boss fight, got to him atleast 5 times by now and havent seen phase 3 yet 😅

[fresh umbra]

There’s a bug with phase 2’s laser if you don’t reset between runs. There’s a mod (LaserRampFix) that fixes this for the meantime

Idk the specifics about the bug but it causes the laser to get significantly stronger

[amber raft]

didnt get to phase 2 this try so i should be fine, unless its overall resetting between runs

[fresh umbra]

I’m not sure

[amber raft]

did a quick discord search and it seems to be everytime he uses it it ramps so i should be fine for now

unless thats a different seperate bug i read about

[amber raft]

when should i go to the void if i am going for voidling?

[quick spoke]

do the empathy core probes get buffed by spare drone parts

[daring cloak]

Yes

[simple osprey]

is there a lock on feature? it's very hard on controller without one

[final socket]

I just do it asap he’s a pretty easy boss to hide from his attacks and if you can get a weeping fungus you’d definitely be ok

[amber raft]

voidling phase 2 didnt spawn, is my overpowered 75min long run done for

[mellow crystal]

phase 1 you always wanna be on your toes, if you don't have good movespeed then save your mobility ability for dash slams
ALWAYS be wary of the spike shotgun since it can instakill at close range and the debuff it applies increases damage taken, just keep in mind that he'll usually do it every 2-3 slams or so

phase 2 & 3, try to fight near-ish a pillar so you have an easy-to-reach spot to hide during the laser, and keep track of where the laser's coming from so you can avoid fs himself while the laser is firing

[amber raft]

hmm, what is the most fun way to kill myself while i have absurd regen. i shall experiment

[mellow crystal]

and yes

[steady stone]

the fog will ramp up over time to kill you
im searching through some of the logs and previous mentions, but as far as i remember theres no solution

[amber raft]

hell yeah i managed to kill myself with a blind pest

is there atleast any way to prevent this happening or is it fully random?

i want to atleast unlock fiend

[steady stone]

i havent heard much correlation between specific actions but the reports are never too specific anyway

i can hop in with Debug to mess around

[mellow crystal]

no way to prevent it afaik but you can download debugtoolkit to force restart the stage if it does happen

[steady stone]

you might find ProperSave less technical though

[mellow crystal]

oh true

[amber raft]

any minute i have to use thunderstore is a minute in suffering so i would preferably not add any mods

[mellow crystal]

r2modman..

[steady stone]

do you have the run in your logbook, so i can see the item list?

i know the logbook likes to decide to simply not work a lot

[amber raft]

actually i have never checked it

i have a screenshot of the defeat screen though

i could have gone for false son via looping (i think you can do that?) but i wouldnt have unlocked anything i think so i went to voidling for the fiend unlock

[fresh umbra]

YOU WHAT

[steady stone]

yeah the bug itself seems way deeper than just a simple setup honestly
i tested a bunch of stuff, going to vields and meridian before voidling (because those stages are quite notorious for random things rn), spawning a scorch wurm, vagrant, recreating your exact item setup and stage, comparing 3 different screenshots from people that had it happen to test similarities, trying ALL the equipments (bhaos) and nothin
all with 10000 clovers to eliminate me simply getting "unlucky" and not getting, say, a crucial debuff combo on him

[outer sierra]

what happens when you have the creditcard imbuided into another equipment using composite injector

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-modding would be the best place to ask

[woeful fjord]

Under what circumstances do Recyclers not appear?

[lavish jacinth]

You mean scrappers or ?
Because the answer is the same either way, they're just random

[woeful fjord]

Scrappers

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[woeful fjord]

Even with Artifacts?

[lavish jacinth]

they can be on any normal stage but aren't ever guaranteed

Command does remove them entirely though

And sacrifice makes them slightly more common

[analog brook]

It says I have a ping in here but I can only find a ping here from a month ago? I'm not expecting an anwser but does anyone know what i got @ed for?

[analog brook]

Does using headstomper stomp stop giving you downwards velocity as some point? And does it set volocity or increase? Basically asking if I was to theoretically fall down as fast and as long as possible, would spamming headset be better or worse than just falling? Idk if falling keeps increasing your speed eternally or is just stagnant

[lavish jacinth]

hit this thing at the top right of the discord UI, you can see recent mentions

if there's nothing in there then idk, maybe you got pinged but the message was deleted, or discord is just having dementia

[lavish jacinth]

I think stompers works similarly to thunderslam, where it gives you a set amount of downward speed, but you're still affected by other things that can move you.
I'm pretty sure spamming it as you fall would be worse since using it briefly resets your momentum, but using it once at the start of a fall would be faster than just falling

[analog brook]

Does the moment gained from Rex's util twindle out over time if used to launch downwards? Would using it repteadly just stack momentum infinitely or would it just... Idk

Also thank you for the response ofc ofc

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think so, I know ror2 doesn't calculate air resistance or anything like that... loader players on PC discovered that the hard way with the momentum conservation bug after SotV lol

(if you didn't know, there was about a week where loader could get softlocked by falling off the map while going too fast, because the momentum didn't reset after being teleported back up. It was fine for most survivors because they'd take fall damage which kinda fixed their momentum, but loader would just keep falling off the cliff over and over, forever, until an enemy knocked her out of it)

...ig it wasn't really a softlock since you could still use a movement ability to get out of it iirc, but still

either way yeah, you don't lose speed over time and the momentum from rex util stacks with itself, so theoretically that might give you infinite speed... again, would have to test though

[analog brook]

Wonderful.

[shadow steppe]

Can someone help me get void feind I've tried for so long i acc cant

[noble cloak]

I accidentally pinged you here

And deltelted it

[amber raft]

how are you supposed to dodge false son's laser, i know there's the pillars but they're so small that if i go behind them i cant dodge anything else properly anymore

[mellow crystal]

either use the middle pillars so false son's pathfinding breaks and he can't slam you mid-laser or take advantage of the angle the laser fires from so you can still avoid false son's slams

[amber raft]

i have a feeling that first one is not exactly intended but i sure as hell plan to abuse it

[glad bison]

can someone explain how to unlock the other skins that arent the mastery ones because ive treid looking it up and I cant find anything </3

[brittle shuttle]

prime meridian skins?

every survivor has a set of mastery skins and prime meridian skins that you unlock by beating... prime meridian

final stage of the seekers of the storm dlc

[glad bison]

oh

ok ty :3

[glad bison]

sorry ive like lowkey played the seeker of the storm dlc like 5 times only

[dapper rivet]

sorry for the dumb question but after sometime playing I still haven't found a solution.Is there a way to greatly reduce the lag during the long runs with mods/something else?

[fast briar]

Maybe decrease the corpse count?

And in general graphical settings, long runs will eventually ruin your fps because so many vfx have to load at once

[daring cloak]

Definitely turn off money/xp effects

[dapper rivet]

it's already at 0,I just completed a 150mins run doing 2 fps in the end game,but I don't think removing money/xo effects would help,isn't there a way to remove effects in general?

[tawny raft]

Hey uhm, am I trippin or there was something secret in these below parts of Commencement?
it's been a long time, I've forgor

[daring cloak]

I think there can be a shrine of order down there

[tawny raft]

ahh yeah, I remember now, ty!

[wintry fjord]

Can shrines of order stack into pearls/irridiant pearls

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, they should be able to

[trim lynx]

theres some mods

[peak scaffold]

am i ready to get diabolo

[whole berry]

what am i missing?

i dont have the seekers of the storm dlc*

[wintry fjord]

The locks are the dlc

[whole berry]

arent there like over 2 new dlc monsters though? i dont think the dlc monsters would be in my logbook since i dont have it, i mean i dont have the dlc items in my item logbook

i heard somewhere thats possibly the friendly void reaver/jailer?

[wintry fjord]

Nah there's only two

Oh wait no

There's more

But idk

[whole berry]

☠️

[brittle shuttle]

voidling false son and scorch wurm

for some reason child isnt showing up at all for you

[peak jacinth]

it’s because they don’t have sots dlc, only a couple of the dots enemies show up because of a bug

[lyric silo]

child, wurm and uhhhhh halcy?

[peak jacinth]

it’s scorch wurm, false son, and voidling as Fsn mentioned

[lyric silo]

whoops i was only thinking of sots

[amber raft]

What happens with the bazaar if im on the alt path? Can i easily return to the alt path or will it throw me back onto the mithrix path?

[daring cloak]

You will get thrown out of the alt path

[amber raft]

Mmm, not great, two loops it is then

[ruby seal]

Any good tips for early railgunner? I always end up with over 15 enemies on teleporter and I can't deal with them all

[silent jungle]

Railgunner is one of the, if not THE best early game hero. He one taps nearly everything on monsoon. If you get a crowbar and some bands early on you even one shot the boss.

The only tip i can give ya is to be faster with your arming and shooting at their weakspots. Maybe you play on console?

[ruby seal]

Nope, PC

Guess it's skill issue as you said

[silent jungle]

Railgunner's weakness is that he's... well frail and doesn't have an easy way of healing unless if you find a wungus. And if you don't find a crowbar and bands in the first few levels you'll stop one shotting normal mobs on monsoon relatively quick and then you'll probably die prtty quick :p.

[amber raft]

you deal massive single target damage, so focus the boss, afterwards if you dont aim well enough to hit the weakspots of the normal enemies you can use your shift to spread them apart a bit which should make it a bit easier

[silent jungle]

Well... i didn't want to be rude... but it's the only thing i can think of haha :p

[ruby seal]

All good, I'm used to it

[silent jungle]

You don't use the left click i hope? The 'machinegun' thing he has i mean.

[daring cloak]

You can also try to line enemies up to kill them with the special because it pierces

[ruby seal]

But yea, lately I've been having shit luck with dmg items

[amber raft]

your R is also quite nice for crowds sometimes as it has piercing

[ruby seal]

Only against wisps or lemurians

[silent jungle]

it's the game ^^. Would be boring quickly if every run was a god run.

[ruby seal]

wisps are too weak to aim and lemurians dodge too much

[daring cloak]

Another thing with railgunner is that her mobility options are more complex than you might think

[ruby seal]

I know, I just wish I had a run with something besides defensive items

[ruby seal]

Machine gun boosting you mean?

[daring cloak]

The regular primary has a lot of self knockback so if you shoot in the opposite direction of where you want to go you'll fly through the air fastee

You can also use the knockback of cryocharge to get an early boost

[ruby seal]

yee I discovered that after a while

[silent jungle]

I would definitely still use your snipe against those enemies. Just gotta snipe everything. Lategame if you have some kjaro bands you can just keep sprinting all over the place, not getting hit and use your ult on big density with the kjaro band. The AOE will melt everything near it. Pretty sweet

[ruby seal]

I've always tried to save it for bosses

[amber raft]

no need to do that, it's cooldown isnt that long

[daring cloak]

But also yeah aoe items are gonna be very valuable

[ruby seal]

One thing I do hate fighting with Railgunner is the wandering vagrant

the big jellyfishe

[daring cloak]

Ukuleles, willowisps, sticky bombs etc.

[silent jungle]

What i would like to know though. I've been trying the luminous shot on several chars. And it's a very mediocre item imo. However it's GODLIKE on false son.

Pretty damn good on mercenary as well. But that's all i can think of. I might've missed something.

I just wish you could use it on railgunner's snipe.

[ruby seal]

Speaking of Ukulele, it has been a long time since I've gotten it

I think I only got it on a single bandit run yesterday

[silent jungle]

Hah, definitely. The grandparent is annoying too. Gotta hit his little hand that's waving all over the place.

[primal vector]

Limunous shot with Railgunner's alt M2 is busted

[daring cloak]

Guh?

[primal vector]

Also with Rex's base M2

[silent jungle]

what's his alt m2 again? I've not used it for ages since it's so inferior :p

[primal vector]

You dont have to reload. So you charge luminous shot very fast

[silent jungle]

oh...

[daring cloak]

I mean yeah but with the primary?

[amber raft]

isnt luminous shot kind of meh with the primary overall

[silent jungle]

i mean... what's the point though. It's total damage. You get stacks quick even on the normal m2, but when you wanna activate the item it's total damage on your patheticly weak normal m1 machine gun.

You might as well ignore it completely and shoot another m2 which'll do more damage on its own, no?

[silent jungle]

It is. But on false son you can ge"t stacks super quick by throwin those m2 darts or whatever. Then do the big 2 handed slam which does 1500% base damage.

If you find that item early, your run becomes ridiculously easy. You nearly one shot the boss with it.

And you can activate luminous shot almost every hit you do.

[amber raft]

i was talking about railgunner specifically

[silent jungle]

ah yeah. Definitely then imo

i don't see the point in using it on him at all. Just insta scrap.

Only chars that i find it to be good on is false son which would be an 11/10. And on merc too which is definitely an 8/10 for me.

[amber raft]

it's nice on rex too

[daring cloak]

Powermode Mul-t has interesting synergy with it too

[silent jungle]

That's true i suppose. I honestly rarely use his base m2 anymore. I think i'm the only one that likes his arrow rain kinda thing xd

[primal vector]

It gives a nice aoe and you can activate it like every 2 seconds

[primal vector]

Its insane. Its a buff with no downside whatsoever

[silent jungle]

Damage is pretty lacking for sure as it triggers on an 80% base damage hit. But you can definitely spam it which makes it good.

Btw, sonorous whispers. What defines a large creature? Do they mean the boss?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[silent jungle]

So only the boss drops a guaranteed one and then all elites have a chance for one.

[amber raft]

the boss and any bosses that spawn as enemies, as far as i know

[daring cloak]

Yes

[silent jungle]

oh, that makes sense. Cause man it drops a lot of items whenever i get it.

It's pretty broken. Gonna have to add it to the 'don't pick up' list xd

[lyric silo]

yu

[north leaf]

Does acrids poison have a proc coefficient?

[daring cloak]

No

[north leaf]

Ty

[unkempt ocean]

Anybody know if there’s a way to fix my logbook not loading? If I can’t fix it I still won’t be able to earn any unlocks

[trim canopy]

anyone know what counts as airborne for the chef challenge? I hit 6 of the jellies in one go and nothing

[primal bane]

why i cant download update (steam)

[wintry crag]

What is Chef’s new special ability ?

[mellow crystal]

no new special, only utility and secondary

[wintry crag]

What are his two special abilities?

[mellow crystal]

glaze which shoots globs of oil and yes chef which boosts the next ability you use

[night hawk]

does anyone have a tip on how to get the hit 5 enimies while airborn challenge, like i seriously dont understand how to do it

[compact salmon]

with primordial cube its easy

[night hawk]

ah

thanks

[marble fractal]

Are Aphelian sanctuary/blind pests lagging the he’ll out of the game for anyone else?

[night hawk]

also i dont really understand the bison challenge either 😭 like am i supposed to kill 10 bisons with glaze and then sear??

[marble fractal]

Yes

[night hawk]

geez seems annoying

[meager oyster]

Anyone having trouble getting "hit 5 airborne enemies with roll" to unlock anything?

does using the cube not count lol

I've hit about 10 things several times and it doesnt register 😭

[marble fractal]

Game keeps freezing for like 5sec at a time

[meager oyster]

Shattered Abodes is about your best option, just hang around for 20 minutes

[night hawk]

alrighty

[meager oyster]

unless you wanna use artifact and reroll

[dusty parcel]

anyone know where i can find the logbook for Helminth? can't seem to find anything online about where to look

[marble fractal]

It’ll be in a radar scanner which spawns sometimes

[dusty parcel]

oh wow i completely forgot that for normal stages you need to look for a radar LOL

embarrasing for me, ty!

[night hawk]

can i just... spam extra magazine for the mithrix burn :>

[meager oyster]

that's what I intend to do.

or grab some molten perfs

and molotovs

[raven hearth]

does the seeker special alt quest reset progress if i let the meditate time out

also any tips for false son shift quest, last time i tried mithrix was 300 hp and ruin expired because aurelionite just decided to afk

[pure stream]

does aegis work with transcendence?

[lilac oar]

has anyone done the seeker 500,000% damage achievement yet?

[dry roost]

i dont get how to do the 500000% dmg thing on seer

[north leaf]

Does being in sojourn count as sprinting?

For like wungus

[meager oyster]

turns out having gasoline was to blame

[primal vector]

Yes but many healing is % of your actual HP, so you may get very little healing

[pure stream]

oh that could explain

[primal vector]

For the 500000, max tranquility, choose items so you may maintain soujourn long enough and the usual suspects: crowbar, cristal watch

[primal vector]

If you use artifact of glass or shaped glass, it will work (I did it with artifact) but your ability to stay on soujourn will be limited (ignore this)

[marble fractal]

Glass changes base damage, so it doesn’t work

[primal vector]

Also, it doesnt have to be on a singular enemy, so exploding on a group will help a lot

[timid steppe]

how long would you have to be in Soujourn for to get the achievement?

[primal vector]

It depends on the items you have

[timid steppe]

say that I have 5 focus crystals then (or zero items) for simplicity's sake

[primal vector]

#theorycrafting message

[timid steppe]

ok, just, how fast does soujourn scale damage

[primal vector]

400% per second (reportedly)

[timid steppe]

yeah

ok

stacking glass it is then

assuming the challenge works with damage mult and not just base damage

[primal vector]

Ummm, several accounts say glass doesnt work #theorycrafting message

#ror2-game-questions message

[timid steppe]

ight, then maibe I'll just try to stack raps and wait for half an hour

[primal vector]

No, its easy. Get crowbar, crystal and watch, a few raps and the artifact that doubles the enemies

[timid steppe]

for the damage ramping that is

[marble fractal]

Crowbars and focus crystals will reduce that time by a lot

[timid steppe]

yeah, ik

but I am doing this without command rn so I gotta find a good printer first

should also probably scrap little disciple so that the crowbars actually work too

btw, did they fix the pizza audio desync in this patch?

[quick spoke]

if i go to shop while in green portal rotation, will leaving keep me in green portal rotation or set me to the normal rotation

[timid steppe]

pretty sure it kicks you off path of the colossus but I think you can maybe get back through the alternate way in the bazaar/through dreaming for a PotC stage

[quick spoke]

noted, thank you

[timid steppe]

👍

[weak sluice]

do irradiant pearls count for scorched earth? i would've assumed not but i got the achievement immediately after picking up like 7 of them (without even charging it all that much compared to my previous attempts)

[slate otter]

what are the challenges for false son

[slate otter]

im at 41 lunar spikes right now tho :o

[timid steppe]

do you have backup mags

[slate otter]

nope

[timid steppe]

no idea then

[marble fractal]

You need 44

[slate otter]

99 bison steak 44 infusions

[marble fractal]

It’s the base 4 plus 40

[timid steppe]

right, it does say gain 40 through growth

[slate otter]

ah makes sense

[timid steppe]

not get to 40

just get some stone fluxes

[slate otter]

whats that

oh just googled it

didnt know that existed-

curretnly at 42 spikes with 44 infusions and 107 steak ;-;

71 minutes in..

[timid steppe]

one stack of stone flux is actually genuinely pretty good for false son

where on other survivors it is just really bad until you get way too much speed in a looped run where it then becomes usable (if you don't just scrap your excess speed that is)

btw, does soujourn ramp self damage infinitely now or just one time to a higher number?

[slate otter]

having aurelionite kill mithrix seems kinda hard

[timid steppe]

just chip him down to kinda low HP and check how much damage she does to see when you have to spike

you can also just scrap items that are too volatile before Commencement

[slate otter]

is his alternate utility useful?

[timid steppe]

no idea

haven't unlocked it

[tranquil fox]

how do you get meridians will?

[timid steppe]

ok, I think I am just now grasping how big of a number 500 000% damage is when the attack starts at 500%

[slate otter]

yea these challenge requirements are kinda insane

[timid steppe]

which is fun though

although, it is not like the pre-dlc challenges were free either

[verbal vigil]

so... im sorry HOW DO I DO SCORCHED EARTH!?

whats the plan

[timid steppe]

uh, stack raps, stack damage I think

haven't gotten it yet

[verbal vigil]

what's raps?

[timid steppe]

repulsion armor plate(s)

[mellow crystal]

just finished a run with it and i'd say so yea
pairs super well with alt secondary since it pulls enemies in for more lightning value

[timid steppe]

I also think stacking rose bucklers might be useful for this

[mellow crystal]

with default secondary i'd probs take default utility tho

[timid steppe]

also, what the fuck did they do to meditate lmao

the radius is massive and the damage seems so good now

ok man, I one tapped newt and even that was apparently not enough damage

[prime fossil]

Does killing newt do anything?

Like an achievement or something

[timid steppe]

nope

but he has a fuck ton of health

so killing him means you did a lot of damage very fast

[prime fossil]

Oh so he's just a punching bag

[potent glen]

Does crit affect the 500,000% sojourn dmg?

[timid steppe]

don't know

[potent glen]

Im gonna go under the assumption it does not

[timid steppe]

I've been in a run for the past like 3 hours

I stayed in Soujourn for I think close to 30 seconds and even that was not enough

[hushed hornet]

how long to I have to stay in the form for the seeker explosion unlock

[timid steppe]

they said in the patch notes that it scales damage at a rate of 500% per second

and I don't know what types of damage multiplication affects the challenge

[hushed hornet]

1000 seconds is wild

[lavish jacinth]

I haven't gotten it yet but crit should affect it as it's directly increasing damage

[timid steppe]

finally got it, was probably in soujourn for about 40-50 seconds

[lavish jacinth]

unless it doesn't care about multipliers which would be very weird

[void fossil]

Genuinely how do you apply 20 stacks of burn at once

[timid steppe]

so multipliers do work, yes

[hushed hornet]

would crystal affect it

[timid steppe]

mhm

[hushed hornet]

its shaped glass time

[potent glen]

ive heard shaped glass does not affect it

idk how accurate that is

[timid steppe]

and damage items stack additively with themselves but multiplicatively with eachother so stack different types of damage items

e.g. frystals, watches, crowbars, etc.

[lavish jacinth]

glass is multiplicative with itself but it's the only item that does that

[timid steppe]

ye

[potent glen]

does glass affect it?

[timid steppe]

don't know

I used 1 so it might?