ror2-game-questions

[steady stone]

anything before sots MIGHT work but that's also a large gamble

some stuff like the Vengeance changer is ancient (updated 3 years ago) but Vengeance has remained untouched by sots, so it works fine

[jolly tartan]

so complictaed

[steady stone]

generally big content gets messed up EVERY update, while some small things like UI might get messed up

like lookingglass had a pretty fatal error with the last or second last update, even though it's just a UI

[honest badger]

you're telling me the rendering engine doesn't get completely replaced every update? shit i might have to switch /j

[steady stone]

see mod makers dont have to know why it works every patch, they just hope it does

[honest badger]

i dont even know what caused it. i thought it was the item ids but i think that was a separate issue

i looked thru the code but c# is ugly :(

[steady stone]

all languages other than your own are really
i find it alright because i learned c# first

[honest badger]

lol fair

java is the only one i really know so i dont have much exposure

[jolly tartan]

raaahh

109 mods now

so uh, whats the mode that makes it like, page turning for the charaters? cuz now its hovering over the words since i have so many WtT

[steady stone]

uh, like a second page for them? probably ScrollableLobbyUI

[jolly tartan]

thank you

how to make my screen less uh, dark?

[steady stone]

settings > video > gamma boost

it looks like it might just be that skin though, and if you need more than 50% gamma boost (the max) there should be buttons on your monitor to adjust it's brightness

[jolly tartan]

no its uh, all of them

and ok thanks!

its a mod i think i just dont know which one

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure the gamma setting is still broken

[steady stone]

it didn't look like it did anything for me but i thought it might only be ingame
worst case there's still monitor options

i had faith the settings worked TwT

[primal vector]

Could it be that the logbook being broken could be related to having 109 mods installed?

[honest badger]

logbook is buggy in general

but wym?

[primal vector]

Oh, I was talking about the whole Fritz problem

[steady stone]

yeah probably lol

didn't know there were mods in play at the time, though

[lavish jacinth]

They said at the very start that it happened while playing unmodded

[loud lynx]

What charter should I be using to just get better at the game overall

[high forum]

Commando, Loader, Bandit

[wintry fjord]

Bandit is very good

One of the most powerful characters

[golden ledge]

how does the recycler interact with yellow items? does it pick from ALL yellow items or just the ones available at that teleporter (ie at 1st tp, picks from titan knurl, queens gland, genesis loop)

[wintry fjord]

Nah, just all of the ones you have

[high forum]

minus stuff like since they're technically in their own tier

[daring cloak]

Ye its just all the normal tp boss items

[golden ledge]

is it normal for enemies to start going invisible after like 2 loops or is it my pc

[wintry fjord]

There's an elite that does that

[golden ledge]

is it the one that drops an aspect that turns ur allies invisible

[wintry fjord]

Yes

[sterile jacinth]

whos the locked monster

[daring cloak]

Mithrix

[sterile jacinth]

mm

[daring cloak]

Also dear lord you gotta view those logs

[sterile jacinth]

dunno why he appears as completely locked but alright makes sense

[daring cloak]

Theyre all marked as new 😭

[sterile jacinth]

never

[golden ledge]

is ukulele or polylute better for captain

[daring cloak]

Theyre both really good though I'd say polylute is a bit better

[golden ledge]

also is there a way to reach that newt altar without like 10 hopoos

[daring cloak]

...ok so you might think im crazy

But if you use diablo you can actually launch yourself high enough up to reach that altar itemless

[golden ledge]

i dont have diablo :(

cool tech tho

[daring cloak]

Yeah you can get really precise launch angles depending on where you stand

Just gotta watch out because needletick and polylute can proc on you and kill you

Both are sotv items

[wintry fjord]

Any tips on unlocking Diablo strike

[daring cloak]

Contrary to how you usually wanna play, you should rush through the stages and only pick up a few items before proceeding to the next stage

Avoid chance based proc items as they can make your damage unpredictable

Lysate cells give you more beacon uses and revives such as dios best friend or the seed of life replenish beacons if you already used them

The end goal is to get to phase 4 mithrix and chip away at his health until its very low and then send a beacon on him as he slams his fist on the ground

[wintry fjord]

Alr ty

[golden ledge]

the beacons do damage?

[daring cloak]

Yes 2000% each and you have to kill phase 4 mithrix with a beacon to unlock diablo

[golden ledge]

i thought i had to use the orbital strikes

that sucks

[daring cloak]

Nope its not that easy

Its often considered one of the hardest unlocks but there are strategies to make it easier

[mellow crystal]

semi-common semi-rare sotv l

[golden ledge]

whats the easiest way to kill off my own drones

[daring cloak]

Lead them to very dangerous and accurate enemies

[golden ledge]

rightttt but they instakill everything

nvm i entered some void portal and they all died
aww man i didnt know this was an alt ending :( i wanted to kill mithrix

does looping make kills count as more or did my game bug out

[daring cloak]

yeah that seems like it bugged out

[wraith mortar]

Any stage tbh

Depends on how you play

[coral valve]

Anyone have a 3-person team composition recommendation / tier list? Friends and I are trying to get to eclipse 8 with each character so trying to figure out what the best 5 x 3 team comps should be

This is what I got out of chatgpt 😅

1. Engineer, Huntress, Acrid
   Balanced area control (Engineer), high mobility and precision damage (Huntress), and strong AoE crowd control (Acrid).

2. Loader, Bandit, Railgunner
   Loader’s frontline aggression pairs with Bandit’s mid-range burst and stealth, supported by Railgunner’s long-range DPS.

3. Captain, Artificer, Mercenary
   Captain provides versatile utility/support; Artificer delivers powerful burst AoE; Mercenary excels at melee disruption and survivability.

4. MUL-T, REX, Seeker
   Durable and adaptable combat from MUL-T, sustained healing/damage from REX, enhanced by Seeker’s team-oriented support.

5. Commando, False Son, Void Fiend
   Commando offers reliable damage, False Son manipulates the battlefield strategically, and Void Fiend provides adaptive burst and utility.

6. Engineer, Huntress, Chef (Repeat: Engineer & Huntress)
   Repeated Engineer/Huntress core ensures exceptional area denial and mobility, with Chef adding flexible support and crowd damage to round out the team.

[daring cloak]

Aint no way chatgpt suggested chef 😭

[coral valve]

Haha it had to in order to cover all of the characters

[hoary sedge]

loader bandit railgunner is diabolical the crowbar infighting is gonna be insane

[karmic skiff]

Hello I'm facing a problem where I can't play multiplayer on RoR2 and it keeps saying I'm playing Spacewar

Yes I did pirate the game I was broke as fuck but I bought it and the DLC when I had the money

Anyone know a solution or am I cursed to be forever alone?

[coral valve]

Chatgpt needs to be more deeply trained on ror

This is Claude's opinion:

1. Commando, Huntress, Bandit
2. MUL-T, Engineer, Artificer
3. Mercenary, REX, Loader
4. Acrid, Captain, Railgunner
5. Void Fiend, Chef, Seeker
6. False Son, Commando (repeat), MUL-T (repeat)

[daring cloak]

Mando huntress and bandit oh my lor

Thats gonna be an entire war over proc items

[mellow crystal]

imo rex + arti + captain/false son could be the strongest 3-team since rex groups enemies up and arti and cap/son can delete those grouped enemies

...unfortunately rex is HORRIBLE for e8 so you're probs gonna have to do arti + false son + railgunner/loader/merc

[brittle kelp]

does grovetender make exclusively wisps spawn on the stage

[daring cloak]

No, you probably encountered a family event

[fresh umbra]

Isn’t this just the survivors in the order they appear on the character select

[daring cloak]

Family events are very rare events that last an entire stage and cause only enemies of a specific kind to spawn

For example wisps and grovetenders since they are related

[wild storm]

hey guys im kinda new to the game, is there any like addon or mod or something like that so i know what items to pickup?

like an invisible table so i know what to pickup

[high forum]

it's probably better to just keep playing and learn what all the items do over time

[wild storm]

o okay, thanks!

[high forum]

I hope that makes sense. I say that because there aren't really any items that you shouldn't pick up, so often times it's just choosing between items in multi-item terminals. If you press Tab (assuming you're on PC), the game will bring up your list of picked-up items, and you'll be able to see descriptions of what they do

There is a mod for more accurate descriptions though, cuz some of them are a little silly/nonsensical. Someone else will have to remind me what that mod's called

[coral valve]

I learned quickly by having an item list / explanation handy while playing and also reviewing tier lists

[daring cloak]

Tier lists are often very biased and cant accurately display the strengths and values of each item

The game's all about synergy, some bad items are very strong combined and some good items dont really work well together

[trim narwhal]

just try to avoid band buddies all together or everyone wanting procs or bleed syringe etc. also you can throw acrid into any teamcomp and go low items and still be strong enough to carry if need be

[mellow crystal]

itemdescriptions, tho i'd recommend lookingglass if all-around qol (including getting item descs via pinging) is preferred

[trim narwhal]

its a bother to c ome up with "optimal" combos, just think about it in load screen if ur team is gonna be alright or not

for instance crit primary huntress + bandit/acrid/railgunner lets them take more crit glasses, or only one melee in team can take focus crystals is gonna be nice, or a seeker wants plates and wires so mayb e dont pair with rex etc. idk just think about it a little on the character select if the current lineup is ok

gpt is kinda of completely griefing and just listing attributes of survivors (which arent accurate anyways wdym false son manipulates the battlefield?), just use ur head lol llm wont do shit here

[lavish jacinth]

there's also the inspect item setting in vanilla

[trim lynx]

chatgpt is not a good source of information btw :)

[agile crystal]

☹️

[coral valve]

How dare

[agile crystal]

Can we ban this guy

[lavish jacinth]

can we ban chatgpt from existing

[agile crystal]

We should just gatekeep risk of rain, and when the AI take over, we'll challenge it to a ror2 faceoff and it won't know how to play so it just kills itself

[livid wedge]

I wish

[high forum]

wow

chatgpt fucking sucks lol

[loud lynx]

What’s the difference between key and corrupted key

[lavish jacinth]

they both spawn a free item box on future stages, but encrusted key gives a cache that gives a choice of 3 void items

[peak jacinth]

key spawns a brown lockbox on the next stage which is essentially just a normal large chest.

Corrupted key spawns an encrusted lockbox which is a purple bubble which gives you a choice of 3 different void items from a specific rarity

[loud lynx]

How do I find the box I always struggle with that

[lavish jacinth]

rusted lockbox has an orange glow around it that's fairly easy to spot

the void cache is a little less obvious, it looks like this

they spawn in random spots like any other chest, you just have to keep an eye out for them

They'll also keep spawning as long as you have a key in your inventory, so if you don't find it you can get one on the next stage

[trim narwhal]

i find it a lot easier to find void cache tbh

[split elm]

Yeah big purple glow is no different than a void seed no? I miss my key box all the time

[hardy bronze]

Is there a way to double bind jump?

[ocean monolith]

Magma Worm's back is a nightmare

The Vagrant's back is interesting tho, for it's not the underside

If you have a Vargrant "chase" you, you'll know it's front, and by proxy, it's back

[lavish jacinth]

it has a red arrow on one side of its body that indicates the front, the opposite side of that is the back.
Backstabs are just based on you being behind an enemy and hitting them while they're facing away from you, it's not a specific part of their hitbox like railgunners weakpoints are

also it's impossible to backstab either of the worm bosses

[agile crystal]

fr? i swear its easy to get their back

or maybe my brain tricks me

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure you can't, because of the weird way worms actually work

or at the very least it's super inconsistent

bc there's an invisible object called a wormcontroller that basically drags the worm around by its face, and that's what determines its actual position and direction
but since it's a separate object and the worm itself doesn't really have a back, you can't backstab them

that's also why tricorning a worm sometimes makes the item spawn somewhere in front of them

it also means that worm AI is literally this meme

[summer silo]

does captain proc bands with his m1

if not does hooks of heresy proc bands

[lavish jacinth]

No, it has to be at least 400% base damage from a single hit, captains shotgun only does 120% per pellet and they don't get added together

Hooks of heresy can proc it on the final hit when it explodes though

[pale thorn]

I'm in the Void Locus. How can I leave without going to The Planetarium? I don't want to end the run. I only care about endless runs.

[mellow crystal]

You don't.

[pale thorn]

Soo just go to the deep void and theres a way to loop in there?

or am I screwed?

[daring cloak]

Yes there is no way to keep looping if you went to locus

From that point on its just the voidling fight and then the end of the run

[golden ledge]

can i only have 2 hacking beacons down at the same time? i was hacking a leg chest and then spawned 2 more beacons for some shrines and it stopped hacking the leg chest

[honest badger]

yes, two beacon limit

[waxen nova]

By extension, do scorch worms not have backs?

[daring cloak]

Scorch worms function entirely differently

[honest badger]

scorch worms literally just stay in one spot and turn to face you

[daring cloak]

They arent dragged around like a kite unlike the magma/overloading worms

They just... are there

[honest badger]

they're just immobile enemies when they're not burrowing

[daring cloak]

No second entity attached

[waxen nova]

I think the last time I was doing a bandit run I was struggling to find its back even when I was behind it. Maybe I'm just misremembering

[daring cloak]

Yeah most likely

Their mouthes are really easy to identify

[cinder pasture]

ive been trying to play as acrid for a little while now. is it just meant to be a very passive poisonous play?

[golden ledge]

do crowbars affect ukulele/proc items

[honest badger]

it's supposed to be really aggressive tbh

[honest badger]

any item which scales with total damage scales with crowbar, yes

[cinder pasture]

where do you get your healing from?

[honest badger]

healing items

acrid doesn't have any inherent healing

[daring cloak]

Doesnt the third primary hit have that?

[hoary sedge]

third hit of m1 heals you

[golden ledge]

i mean like if i hit an enemy thats below 90% but ukulele bounces to one that isnt does it trigger crowbar

[daring cloak]

Bite has it too

[honest badger]

oh

[daring cloak]

And acrid has the highest base regen iirc

[honest badger]

it's any damage you deal so yeah

[golden ledge]

cool

[honest badger]

keep in mind that allies, like drones, do not

meaning drones can significantly decrease crowbar value sometimes

[golden ledge]

what is this big snowy chest

[daring cloak]

Thats a naturally spawning legendary chest

[golden ledge]

is there a reason why its snowy and not golden

[daring cloak]

Looks like its texture is a bit broken though

[honest badger]

do you have mods?

[golden ledge]

nope

[honest badger]

might just be a lighting issue

[simple viper]

Dumb question does monsoon spawn more enemies than rainstorm?

[daring cloak]

Not directly but the difficulty increases faster so you will encounter more and stronger enemies in monsoon

[simple viper]

Ok thanks

[golden ledge]

what r some situations where lost seers are better than lensmakers
apart from having like 20 harvesters

[daring cloak]

Only lens makers stack crit chance

Scythes, instincts and spleen only give +5% crit chance on the first stack

And you rarely really want lost seers

Its alright on bandit since he has innate crit and may be useful in loops

But on everyone else it kinda sucks most of the time (including railgunner because turning lens makers into white scrap is better than lost seers)

[golden ledge]

tyyyy
does pocket icbm just add +50% dmg or does it multiply by x1.5 if u get a dupe?
also can i get acrid WITHOUT ending my run

[ocean monolith]

Yes

[tight schooner]

any tips on unlocking false son? I haven't found a gold portal yet, just keep restarting on drizzle and doing halcyon path

[sick sand]

going for newt alters can help you find gilded coast

[tight schooner]

do I need to restart every time I get to the false son without getting halcyon seed, or do I get more chances if I loop?

[ocean monolith]

You need to acquire a Halcyon Seed before you fight False Son

Doesn’t matter how many loops you gotta do

[tight schooner]

I know, I keep not getting gold portal

[ocean monolith]

Newt can help with that

[steady stone]

Every Lunar Seer has a 5% chance iirc

[tight schooner]

so like right now, I beat false son without gold portal, can I keep going and can I find a gold portal and fight false son on the same run?

[ocean monolith]

Especially since it has an increased chance of Gilded Coast in the current patch

[tight schooner]

or is he gone once you beat him once

[steady stone]

one fight per run

[daring cloak]

Yes

[steady stone]

you can return to the path via lunar seer if available too

lunar seer is just your savior for this unlock really

[steady stone]

assuming he's not killed yet in that run, I'll add

[tight schooner]

given the choice between blue portal and green portal on stage one, which one is more likely to result in a gold portal thereafter?

[daring cloak]

You can actually get to altar guaranteed

[steady stone]

every stage has one yeah

[daring cloak]

So in the bazaar there are now 3 mini geodes

If you find and break them all a green portal will appear in the bazaar

You'd basically get an extra bazaar visit over just going straight to altar

[steady stone]

Last time I checked the locations were all listed on the fandom wiki, but I'm not sure if the .gg has been updated since

Assuming you don't want to search for them yourself

[tight schooner]

so stage one try to get to blue portal and then break some geodes to go to the green portal, then hope for gilded altar thing?

[ocean monolith]

Just go for Newt until you find Gilded Coast in the seer

[daring cloak]

Or check if gilded coast is in the lunar seer in the bazaar

[ocean monolith]

Preferably you find it before you finish Stage 4

[daring cloak]

That seems to be the most common way to get to coast

[ocean monolith]

Cause you can go right to Prime Meridian from Gilded Coast if you’re on Stage 4

[steady stone]

Lunar Seer is probably the fastest, looping until you can clear a stage per minute is the cheapest

Since some console players are very limited on lunar coins

Careful with loops though to let auri spawn before you finish the fight

[tight schooner]

ty

[golden ledge]

is there any form of scaling for enemies after looping enough for them to hit lvl 99

[daring cloak]

Spawn credits will still increase

[golden ledge]

so more spawns

[daring cloak]

So while the enemy stats will stay the same the game will keep spawning stronger enemies more frequently

[golden ledge]

wb mithrix

[daring cloak]

Final bosses have some special scaling

I dont know much about that though

[golden ledge]

cooool

[golden ledge]

does shaped glass reduce mithrixs health in phase 4

[daring cloak]

Ye

[golden ledge]

sweet

negative money?

[wide parrot]

Integer limit my beloved

[ocean monolith]

I love technology

[ocean monolith]

I’m wanting to get some muscle memory down for speedshotting as Captain, any tips?

[north nexus]

ror2 down (multiplayer? we are getting a "star sky" loading screen if we trying to join a lobby?

[steady stone]

Uhh I know steam goes down on Tuesdays, but if that's up, both of you disable Crossplay in the settings

Or try both enabling it but it's better to have it disabled if possible
Crossplay works in mysterious ways

[wide parrot]

By mysterious ways you mean it doesn’t work

[steady stone]

No, it's more than every copy of crossplay is somehow personalised

Sots launch had multiple solutions for the same problem for different people

[north nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640915379874693157/1359250090367385793/image.png?ex=67f6cbcb&is=67f57a4b&hm=b4bb46b878163b2871a2e3bcc9cf15110220c191a2ba14aeb2df7d9ad37c3eaf&

[steady stone]

#roles

[north nexus]

this is what we both get if we try to join each other server

[steady stone]

But yeah I probably know generally what the image would look like if it embedded, just only background

I do believe that happens with crossplay jank sometimes

[north nexus]

but w have it disabled since a week and everything was fine since then. 😦

lol. we both enabled crossplay now and it works

we are both on steam

[steady stone]

Told ya every copy of crossplay is personalised lol

[fresh umbra]

How do bison steak and psg scale while the player has transcendence (i.e., at what point, if any, does psg become better than bison steak)?

Also, do bison steak and psg interact with each other? The health page on the wiki says it interacts with infusion, but doesn’t mention bison steak

[ocean monolith]

Bison Steak is a flat increase in HP

[fresh umbra]

Ik that

[ocean monolith]

PSG is %

So the more HP you have/the more Transcendence you have, the better PSG will scale in comparison to Bison Steak

[fresh umbra]

Psg ignores transcendence, but bison steak does not

Which is why i ask: I’m wondering if at some player level, the bonus 12.5 hp that bison steak gains from transcendence is not enough to be better than an “8%” increase in hp

[trim narwhal]

they do

so eventually u want a little steak to go with psg, even ignoring transcendence

wiki has hp formula

[nimble wave]

are all of the environment logs actually obtainable yet or have those bugs not been fixed in the patches so far

i haven't checked in a minute

[brittle imp]

is ror2 more gpu intensive or cpu intensive?

[lavish jacinth]

it's mostly cpu bound

although you don't need an especially strong cpu to run it

[lavish jacinth]

seems to still be broken

[brittle imp]

ah alrighty

[solemn ivy]

Can somebody help us?We've been stuck on this stage (presumably-planetarium) for the past 10 minutes.We've killed the voidling once,my friend and I walked through a teleport afterwards,and it sent us to a small obstacle course(?).After that,we've been sent here,and we have no idea what to do next,or how to leave,what do we do to progress the game further?

[crimson aspen]

Its the stage with the weird blue eyeballs

[hardy bronze]

How do out of combat items work? Do i just have to not get hit/hit something for a certain amout of time?

[fresh umbra]

Correct, 7 seconds iirc

[hardy bronze]

K thanks!

[crimson aspen]

Its in the Siren's call level,as it was said by the wiki

[lavish jacinth]

just to clarify, "out of combat" is different from "out of danger"
out of danger means you haven't taken damage for 7 seconds
out of combat means you haven't used a damaging ability in 5 seconds (this is only used by red whip)

[lavish jacinth]

voidling is just bugged at the moment, sometimes it doesn't spawn in its second phase. Nothing you can do about it unfortunately (unless you're running modded and have debugtoolkit, then you can forcibly reset the stage)

[dark canyon]

you know the auto sprint mod helps quite a lot at first

you can use that to get started

[crimson aspen]

Aint the DLC is like 3 years old?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, but it's a new bug on this patch

there have been a whole bunch of bug reports about it

[crimson aspen]

Also,why does port 27015 needs so much attempts at opening?my friend is asking rn

[crimson aspen]

understandable

[lavish jacinth]

no idea but #ror2-tech-support might be able to help with that, ror2 shouldn't require port forwarding though

[crimson aspen]

alright,thanks for the answer

its just that playing through steam servers lags the other party besides host into oblivion

[lavish jacinth]

do you all have crossplay turned off?

[crimson aspen]

yes

wait

yes,just checked,its off

[lavish jacinth]

ok, good

crossplay causes a ridiculous number of problems so I always gotta ask lol

[crimson aspen]

damn

we've just gotten ROR2 recently,still getting used to it

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you started playing at a weird time lol. The update that came with SotS broke a ton of stuff and Gearbox has been slowly fixing it

[crimson aspen]

oh,neat,nice to know that they are fixing it

[lethal cairn]

Is there any item that gives you knockback resistance?

[lavish jacinth]

no

well, movement speed technically kinda sorta reduces knockback by increasing acceleration/deceleration, so you slide a little less when hit, but only if you're on the ground and the effect is basically negligible

[lavish jacinth]

kipkip is the hardest and it's not even close, he gets nicknamed kipkip the invincible for a reason

I don't fight twisted scavs often enough to have an opinion on the rest

unless you wanna get really technical and argue that "hardest" specifically means "hardest to fight" and not "hardest to kill"

[trim lynx]

kipkip

[frozen hornet]

which artificer R do you guys prefer? I like the mobility on the alt but I feel like the damage on the base R provides much needed single target damage. I might be playing it wrong but I cant decide

[trim lynx]

i personally use ion, but its up to preference

[frozen hornet]

awesome thanks so much, I've been trying out ion and it makes surviving so easy. what items do you prioritise?

[trim lynx]

for arti specifically?

[frozen hornet]

yes

[trim lynx]

i like move speed items quite a bit because she has lowered acceleration

ignition tanks are also good ofc, even without flamethrower

unless you use alt primary aswell

[frozen hornet]

I like standard primary (I don't have alt yet)

[trim lynx]

i like flame bolts too

attack speed is also worth taking ig

[frozen hornet]

does that make the bolts reload faster?

[trim lynx]

yea

[frozen hornet]

oh nice

[trim lynx]

thats kinda about it, shes good with most items

[frozen hornet]

thanks so much for the help 🙂

[trim lynx]

have fun!

[frozen hornet]

I will

[golden ledge]

how should my playstyle change from normal mode to monsoon
ie should i prioritise time rather than items or smth

[trim lynx]

still prioritise items

just think about how to get the most items in the shortest time more

[daring cloak]

Always prioritise items but try to be efficient

Try to not get hit as much as possible

[trim lynx]

and ig think about printers and scrappers if you dont already

[golden ledge]

printers are goated but i never find the ones i want

is it better to hold onto scrap or spend it on half decent printers
also should i kill mithrix or obliterate

[trim lynx]

depends how far into the run you are, and if you think its worth gambling on soups

[golden ledge]

soups?

[daring cloak]

Cauldrons

The things you find in the bazaar and on the moon that let you trade multiple items of a lower rarity into one item of a higher rarity

[golden ledge]

like the ones on the moon?

[daring cloak]

Ye

[golden ledge]

ive got this many items by 30 mins (in sky meadow), is my pacing decent?

or is that a stupid question

[daring cloak]

Thats a good amount of items for 30 minutes but I'd say you could spent a bit more time on each stage

Ultimately I cant see how your run played out so I cant really give very accurate feedback

But on average you could definitely spend a few more minutes on each stage to get more items and use scrappers/printers more effectively

[peak jacinth]

If you have sonorous whispers and kill and elite boss, is there a chance it will drop 2 items or is it an “else” on the elite

[daring cloak]

Its an else on the elites

Oh wait elite boss

[peak jacinth]

cool

yea

like if you fought an elite boss you’d automatically get 1, but would it be possible to get 2?

[golden ledge]

i couldnt find any (useful) printers/scrappers until sky meadow but ur prob right i just wanted to get the hell out of wetland aspect

[daring cloak]

Yeah idk how sonorous works in those situations

Its not impossible for bosses to drop multiple items at once but two items from sonorous alone could go either way

[peak jacinth]

hmm ok, might need to test this l8r

[golden ledge]

what do these suckers do

[mellow crystal]

give gold

[golden ledge]

sweet

[hoary sedge]

they're basically reskinned barrels yeah

[urban narwhal]

for railgunner, wdym "30 consecutive sniper shots"

[waxen nova]

Land 30 consecutive weak point shots using your scoped shot

[wide parrot]

If you miss or hit an enemy without hitting a weak point you have to start over

[quiet narwhal]

hello, how can i find a teamate?

teammate*

[urban narwhal]

ok there we go. i had to be scoped

[high forum]

#lfg-pc-ror2

[urban narwhal]

how do i trigger the stomp bands ability?

[wide parrot]

Hold your interaction button while airborne

[urban narwhal]

oh ty

i was confused bc when i fell on the groove stage the bands started sparking and did its shockwave after i got teleported

[ocean monolith]

There’s a chance it spawns 2, yes

[peak jacinth]

oh that’s pretty neat

[ocean monolith]

Just don’t be surprised when you only roll the 2nd item once every 20 times

[ocean monolith]

I wanna ask, how does one downpatch? I have an idea on how I think it’s done, but I wanna confirm the method
I’m wanting to try out the VR Mod, but since I have to downpatch to play it, I wanna figure that out in advance

[golden ledge]

what items do i want on railgunner? apart from crowbar and watches and bands

[urban narwhal]

when does bottled chaos activate?

[livid wedge]

Whenever you activate your equipment

[urban narwhal]

ooh

[steady stone]

There should be a pin in #ror2-modding on that, if you haven't seen it

#ror2-modding message

[urban narwhal]

i noticed that after using the remote caffeinator for the first time and getting some drinks. there were 2-3 clones of myself shooting dwn enemies, idk how that happened

[steady stone]

Bottled chaos probably activated

[urban narwhal]

ooo nice, gtk

[steady stone]

The caff itself can only activate and (unless I'm forgetting another "on interact")

[urban narwhal]

for vanilal prolly not

idk about survivors of void bc its my first game with it

[golden ledge]

what r these

[steady stone]

Cleansing pool

turns lunars into or , 80 and 20% chance respectively

[golden ledge]

ohhh ty

[urban narwhal]

2 things for items
1: what is the best way to get the charge teleporter under 10% health?
2: hoe do i properly find items to unlock them (i wanna do funny command run but ye)

also who in the thousand worlds is that? i do not see them even locked oon the character screen?

[fallen bridge]

1. rex w/ self dmg abilities
2. i don't play command but i think you just have to get them from natural rng ??
3. that's a "secret" survivor only playable with a certain combo of items

[urban narwhal]

oh, thanks :>

are there any hints to the secret btw? or do i straight up have to read wiki?

[ocean monolith]

Speed and AoE

[fallen bridge]

iirc there's no hints in-game, but if you want a hint without a direct spoiler, ||maybe take a close look at the lunar shop's items ...||

[coarse fox]

Collect all four of the Heresy lunars.

[urban narwhal]

hmmm alrighty ty

[fallen bridge]

some people want to find out secrets for themselves 😭

[urban narwhal]

the duality of the answers lol

[urban narwhal]

dw it will take me a bit before i know what these heresy lunars are

[ocean monolith]

Thanks dawg

[urban narwhal]

"complete 3rd teleporter event without healing" does natural regen count? which would make this challenge into "no damage into 4th stage"

[steady stone]

Regen doesn't count, healing is anything with the green numbers

[urban narwhal]

o nice, i think i might do it on my railgun mastery run

also in case for charge the teleporter. it only matters if i have less than 10% right as it hits 99%?

[ocean monolith]

Yes

[steady stone]

You can actually just fully charge it without killing the boss to cap it at 99%, and then kill it when you're in the threshold

[urban narwhal]

im planning to use glass artifact but idk how to incorporate it

[urban narwhal]

oh

the health balance is still very hard ngl

[steady stone]

easiest on with self damage

but other than that i recommend fall damage to get low

it isnt fatal unless you have Frailty

[urban narwhal]

wouldnt i regen back up?

also trying rex lol

[steady stone]

thats where stalling with boss comes in too, since you can charge it on command basically

its basically an and gate where it wont be done until the timer and boss are clear

[peak jacinth]

your regen will be much slower than Rex’s self damage

[steady stone]

that too, and you can spam your self damage m2 with no cooldown

[peak jacinth]

basically just charge to 99% like jiji said, kill all the other enemies so they can’t kill u, then spam the boss with your m2

[urban narwhal]

oh aright, also using glass lol

[peak jacinth]

another simple way to do it if you’re not comfortable using rex, you can jump off the map before killing the boss

[steady stone]

glass changes your max iirc so it wont really help

[urban narwhal]

ooh ye

[peak jacinth]

it’ll help in the way that you get more damage while being on 1hp while finishing off the boss

it could be easier to kill it which would give you less risk of dying

[steady stone]

risk of....
but yeah, it will still be the same health threshold is all

[peak jacinth]

but there are many other ways to mitigate that risk

[urban narwhal]

i think syringes and coffees are the best items tbh

bc of firerate?

[steady stone]

like in general or to use rex self dmg?

[urban narwhal]

hmmm... ig nvm. the mortar has no cd anyways

[steady stone]

cooldowns also arent affected by atk spd

with the exception of artificer m1

and chef/bandit if you can really call those cooldowns

[peak jacinth]

and bandit reload

[urban narwhal]

i cant beat my regen with m2 lol

[steady stone]

are you on drizzle?

[urban narwhal]

yh

[steady stone]

this one will be easier on monsoon

[urban narwhal]

i feel like im just gonna die more on monsoon

esp on glass where they can 2 tap me lol

[steady stone]

DrizzlePlayerHelper gives you 70 armor and +2.5 regen

[fallen bridge]

regen is crazy fast on drizzle, and monsoon's effects barely show up in the early-game ...

[steady stone]

monsoon also lowers your regen

[peak jacinth]

well glass will be detrimental for your goals if regen is the issue

because hp regen is flat

[urban narwhal]

yep, just got one tapped by enemy i didnt notice lol, gotta unglass

[fallen bridge]

are you trying to loot the stage or are you just running straight for the teleporter ?

[urban narwhal]

straight to tele bc i have command + sacrifice

[steady stone]

full looting is always the way to go

items will outscale timer

[urban narwhal]

ye ig i could take off sacrifice?

bc it makes item spawn completly random

[steady stone]

gambling on Kin might help with all beetle

[urban narwhal]

you cannot stall boss bc it becomes horde of many

it only doesnt replace mithrix, voidling and maybe scavenger

[steady stone]

well, you could just stall the beetles

[urban narwhal]

and bosses on late stages if lucky

[steady stone]

the horde will probably be elites so easy enough to pick out

[fallen bridge]

since you're just doing the achievement it honestly might be faster just to keep trying w/ glass. i don't know how proficient you are at dodging though

[peak jacinth]

well on sac it doesn’t matter

[urban narwhal]

propably more average

[fallen bridge]

i'd just run glass & kin then

[steady stone]

in a short run sac would probably hurt you yeah

[urban narwhal]

id use command on top so i can always pick dps and mobility items lol

[steady stone]

since sac drops are determined by the invisible values on enemies and all that

[urban narwhal]

oh?

[steady stone]

sac is just slow early game is all

[urban narwhal]

oh

[steady stone]

5% drop

[urban narwhal]

oh god

also are the slimes also as good as the uh. beetles?

for now got verdant + beetles :>

[steady stone]

now that you mention it actually, that list is ancient
no dlc enemies

thats probably why it felt so short

[urban narwhal]

lol

also this is the perfect stall. i also have the egg and 2 rabbit hoofs + a glass to doo crits, a hoopoo feather and shurikens for dmg

[golden ledge]

can i use transcendence to cheese that one huntress challenge

[steady stone]

No. Blue health counts, orange health doesn't.

[urban narwhal]

is it possible to die to self damage on rex?

[steady stone]

you can get hit at an unfortunate time is all, so it's good to avoid it in regular runs because of wisps and such

[urban narwhal]

YOOO i did it, my turrets finished the elites off as they had to walk the entire map

Chasing of crabs looks like im gonna do that with railgunner mines

[steady stone]

That could work, or boop or

generally the strat is loop to stage 6 titanic plains for crabs because of the ledge
lunar seer stage 5 to get titanic easier

[fallen bridge]

yah the easiest way imo is just to run command and get lots of fuel cells & a primordial cube

[golden ledge]

wtf is a cloaked chest i just found one 😭

[high forum]

it's just a regular small chest but free

[golden ledge]

is there any other obscure secrets like that

[urban narwhal]

I did it stage 1

Altho stage 1 makes dragon egg way better than black hole (as long as you dont like. Run beetle only)

[mellow crystal]

[golden ledge]

whats that mean

[fresh umbra]

wrong chat, oops

[chrome gale]

so i booted up the game recently after this first hotfix and im noticing that my fps counter shows 144 but the game almost feels like its animated at 60, leading to some choppy feeling...

does anyone else notice this?

(this is on the first stage with 1-2 monsters on screen)

[fallen bridge]

what do you have the fps set to in ror2's settings ?

[chrome gale]

set to 144 and my res and refresh rate are at 144 as well

[fallen bridge]

huh ... vsync off, i would guess ?

[chrome gale]

yup

this seems to be an inconsistent issue too

[fallen bridge]

honestly have no clue then. only thing i can think of is maybe that your monitor has some refresh rate setting that's different than your os' refresh rate setting, but since it's just ror2 i have no idea

[golden ledge]

is needletick worth using if i have shatterspleen + 100% crit

[agile crystal]

100%

[brittle shuttle]

well yeah bc what would be the point of having any bleed

[ashen sigil]

why does electric boomerang cause so much lag

im getting 1/9th of a frame per second

[lavish jacinth]

because it can get a ton of procs, probably.
It's a piercing AoE that rapidly hits anything inside its hitbox, and with rang itself being a proc you're likely to have a lot of them going off at once

It shouldn't really cause problems on its own, but if you're late into a run and have a ton of other proc chains going off then it could be an issue, even moreso if you have clover(s)

[brittle kelp]

no point in bleed as long as our glorious king acrid exists

[ashen sigil]

ror2 is using 99% of my memory 😭

[lavish jacinth]

what stage are you on?

[ashen sigil]

42

[lavish jacinth]

yeah that checks out

simply download more RAM

[ashen sigil]

i just... i just wanna obliterate... i need to see if i beat my previous record...

ivebeen trying to walk over at 1/9th of an fps towards the teleporter for the past 30m

[lavish jacinth]

at that point there's not much you can do besides maybe turning down the graphics settings and scrapping any laggy items. setting corpse cleanup to instant and disabling gold/xp effects should help

[ashen sigil]

i cant even open settings

nvm i can the game unfroze
nvm i cant

[lavish jacinth]

welp

[agile crystal]

the risk of rain experience on the low end

[ashen sigil]

my pc is good

i just dont think the game was supposed to handle my build

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, past a certain point ror2 just becomes a stress test for your pc

[ashen sigil]

is electric boomerang affected by attack speed

lmfao no way ror is still using 12 gb of memory while in the menu, paused

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, not directly, but with high attack speed you'll probably be proccing it more often

[ashen sigil]

i dont understand why its constantly proccing then im not using m1s 😭

one thing is for sure i'm never using this thing ever again after it ruined a 5h long run

[lavish jacinth]

you probably have some other item(s) proccing it

[agile crystal]

Solution?

dont pick up rangs

ngl they should add a setting where they just turn all your items into pngs and thats it lmao

[lavish jacinth]

sad cuz it's a cool item

[agile crystal]

atg? literally just a ATG Jpeg flying

[ashen sigil]

this run is about to explode my pc

they should also add a setting where you can just kill yourself with a hotkey / button in settings

does that exist

[agile crystal]

just play risk of rain irl yooy

[agile crystal]

probably a mod

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think the visual part is what causes most of the lag, it's the procs and hit detection

[ashen sigil]

can someone explain me how ror2 is using 12 gb of ram while in the menu paused

[agile crystal]

oh so just the enemies dying in mass?

[agile crystal]

chance to crash your PC is low but never -

[ashen sigil]

no but HOW

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, stuff needs to be kept in memory so for when you unpause

[ashen sigil]

they need to optimize this game better 😭

[lavish jacinth]

otherwise unpausing the game would probably break stuff

[lavish jacinth]

bro, it's a game where you can effectively play forever and become infinitely strong, there's only so much they can do lol

[ashen sigil]

i'm so unimaginably upset a 5h run where i was trying to break my previous record of 800b damage got curb stomped by electric boomerang

[agile crystal]

how far are you in anywyas

oh

jesus christ, and you're surprised 😭

[ashen sigil]

i went out of my way to pick NO attack speed

attack speed is the thing that always crashes runs

[lavish jacinth]

unless they're planning on making a quantum computer port, there's always gonna be a point where the game hits its limit

[lavish jacinth]

...I mean it's technically procs, but attack speed enables that

Clover is BY FAR the worst offender though

it basically exponentially increases the amount of calculations the game has to do

[ashen sigil]

i was playing as heretic and specifically not using m1s so my attack speed didnt exist

I genuienly dont know what made my game decide to shoot 8 trillion electric boomerangs from 1 stage to another

it was fine the stage previous then it wasnt when i picked no new item

[lavish jacinth]

also your skills aren't the only thing that can proc, if you've got something like ceremonial dagger, or tesla coil, that could keep proc chains going forever without you doing anything

[ashen sigil]

yeah but those arent affected by attack speed right

[agile crystal]

one bullet and you got risk of rain engraed on your screen forever

[lavish jacinth]

no, but they don't need to be

[ashen sigil]

proc chains arent that bad aslong as u dont have high attack speed

or so atleast i've noticed

but tbf i do have, every proc chain item ranging between 10 to 50 (no molten perforator doe :( (im not playing command 💪 (because not command is better (and also because its more fun)))) and 3 clovers

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's absolutely what's causing it lol

[ashen sigil]

no but waht suprises me is that it was completely fine one stage previous

[lavish jacinth]

it's also entirely possible that something is bugged, knowing how jank SotS items can be

[ashen sigil]

question do lost seer lenses one shot

count as d amage at the end or nawt

[lavish jacinth]

no

[rare pawn]

is double rebar still the best mult build

[ashen sigil]

thank you ror2 for making the only lagless way i can think of to get trillions of damage not work

[lavish jacinth]

think of it this way
if you have ceremonial dagger, every time an enemy dies, it spawns 4 daggers.
each of those daggers with hit another enemy and potentially proc multiple items, which is very likely to happen with 3 clovers.
Those procs can also proc even more items
And since it's pretty likely that the enemy they hit will be dead at that point, they'll have spawned more daggers which keep the process going, and this can all happen as quickly as enemies can spawn
You can get exponentially increasing amounts of procs without attack speed ever even being a factor

[ashen sigil]

as always a goat...

well in theory i could get enough of them and just get boss damage and get all the dmg just from the bosses

i think that could work actually
100 lost seer lenses
80 war bonds
10 clover
(200 regenerating scraps in question to get the 80 war bonds)

[lavish jacinth]

most powermode builds are technically better in terms of DPS

[lavish jacinth]

just stack a bunch of shaped glass

it's the only damage multiplier that stacks exponentially with itself

2x -> 4x -> 8x -> 16x -> 32x and so on

[ashen sigil]

its not rly a issue of dmg its an issue of

the mobs scaling to have enough hp to be dealt such damage

[lavish jacinth]

the amount of health they have doesn't matter iirc, it still counts

[mellow crystal]

complaining about optimization in a 5-hour risk of rain 2 run is crazy ngl

[ashen sigil]

how many focused convergences can you have before you dont fit in it

[lavish jacinth]

normal enemies have an HP cap at level 99 anyway, only special bosses like mithrix can get infinite-ish health (there's probably a limit at some point but idk what it is lol)

[lavish jacinth]

it hard caps at 3

[mellow crystal]

n/a technically because it's limited to 3 stacks

[ashen sigil]

so sad

every completion of a portal event makes scaling slightly faster right

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, by 15%

[agile crystal]

the integer limit

[lavish jacinth]

if I'm not mistaken, mithrix's health can actually go past the normal integer limit. His healthbar bugs out and displays negative health, but afaik his actual hp works fine and you can still kill him

[hazy hare]

So who am I missing?

[lavish jacinth]

voidling and alloy worship unit

[left flicker]

I second this

[weak crow]

ror2 after 2 loops becomes an afk clicker game

[steady stone]

clicking is optional

[young geyser]

Do the Void Fields

on Sirens Call find nests in the open and destroy them

[golden ledge]

is sots actually a bad dlc

[lavish jacinth]

nah
it had an extremely rough launch that soured a lot of people's opinions on it, but gearbox has been working on fixing it and at this point it's pretty decent

it's still got some issues, but it's not bad

[fast briar]

Its very good now

[urban narwhal]

In case. What would be the best way to chase down crabs?
I feel like railgunner mines are a good way

[fallen bridge]

primordial cube equipment ( ) w/ lots of fuel cells

[urban narwhal]

Ooo ye that could work

Whats the range of the cube anyways?

[hoary sedge]

they also run directly away from you if you get close so you don't actually need a specific character or equip, just makes it easier

[urban narwhal]

Oh? Wait. Crabs arent the same as beetles?

[daring cloak]

Yeah its not beetles

Its the hermit crabs that launch projectiles far into the air to hit you

[urban narwhal]

Omg.... I have no idea if i even seen these

Can these guys spawn at stage 1?

[daring cloak]

No

They spawn in abyssal depths and if you loop also titanic plains

[lavish jacinth]

stage 6 titanic plains is the only point where you can do the gesture unlock

technically it's possible on later loops but it's usually too chaotic by that point, you need to not accidentally kill the crabs before chasing them off

they also don't spawn at all with dissonance

[urban narwhal]

💀

So i cant gamble w kin either

[lavish jacinth]

swarms helps though

you just have to be extra careful not to kill them

it's tedious and pointless, but not really difficult

[rapid island]

can someone help me pls i got a BUG i think, when i play with a friend and we get to 50 min or more one of us is disconnected

[lavish jacinth]

turn off crossplay, both of you

[rapid island]

ok thw

thx

[lavish jacinth]

np

[urban narwhal]

Fair

[urban narwhal]

Lol. Just want achievements lol

[honest badger]

or abyssal depths in simulacrum

[urban narwhal]

What waves

Also i can do this only bc i did buy the dlc so ye. It isnt even an universal solution :c

[honest badger]

wait nvm, i was misinformed

wiki says they cant spawn in simulacrum either

[urban narwhal]

Darn

[ocean monolith]

They do lmao

[honest badger]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Hermit_Crab

[daring cloak]

No you need to reach stage 21

Yes

[void warren]

hi may i know why my Ror2 in pc cant play with friends using multiplayer ?

[steady stone]

Try all turning crossplay off, and if not, try all turning it on

[void warren]

ok i try

[ashen sigil]

what items completely negate the damage dealt by heretic

im tryna get 10 shaped glasses as heretic

if i dont have crit

[mellow crystal]

mostly

too ig

[urban narwhal]

is it possible for the teleporter not to spawn any sort of a boss?

[steady stone]

yes, normally very late into a loop

[urban narwhal]

late? in case i got it when i activated a portal in like 2 mins, the enemies still were at l1

[steady stone]

gearbox magic ig? ive only personally had it on like stage 40, and most people from what ive heard also get it late

[urban narwhal]

oh dang

[ashen sigil]

does war bonds count as missiles
if i wanted optimal damage should i do like
1-1 pocket icbm war bonds ratio (for bos)

[keen quartz]

Hey. I’m trying to figure out if any of these dreams in my bazaar lead to abyssal. Anyone got a pic they can send or if I could dm them the pic of my portals

[lavish jacinth]

[steady stone]

#roles any role for embeds

[lavish jacinth]

No

[keen quartz]

Oh thanks

[ashen sigil]

wait when the game bugs and you get like hundreds of negative billions of dollars does war bonds heal the boss

[lavish jacinth]

Neither of those are abyssal depths

[keen quartz]

sad. thanks tho

[lavish jacinth]

It's easy to spot, it's the only stage 4 that's red lol

[hazy hare]

Does anyone know if the void changes also affect the simulacrum?

[lavish jacinth]

The void fog, you mean?

[hazy hare]

Yes

[hoary sedge]

icbm doesn't affect warbonds (despite it obviously using missiles)

[lavish jacinth]

It wasn't supposed to be changed, but from what I've heard it's actually bugged atm and is weaker than usual

[lavish jacinth]

They're not even close to what icbm considers a missile

[ocean monolith]

Oh with Dissonance

You don’t even need that, cause Abyssal Depths has edges you can fall off of in Simulacrum

[lavish jacinth]

The devs really need to stop referring to things as missiles when the game has a strict definition of 'missile' that only matters because of icbm lol

[hoary sedge]

ik I meant visually

[honest badger]

no, it says dissonance OR simulacrum

[ocean monolith]

They literally spawn on Simulacrum

I’ve seen them spawn

Your wiki is WRONG

[honest badger]

I mean I trust the wiki more than other ppls experiences personally

[drowsy thicket]

New player here, In my current run [I'm playing engi] I've got shatterspleen, 100% crit rate, like 15 shrooms, about 5 razorwires, and some other stuff [I can't remember, mainly attack speed and some other on-hit times?] I didn't know how exactly Aegis worked so my build is kinda goofy rn cause I got 3 corpseblooms and 1 rejuv rack in hopes that it'd make aegis gimme alot of the overshields, it didnt 💀, would getting ascendence work? Since I'd then only have 1 hp therefore constant overhealth from heals? Also, any specific reccomendations for a build/ what'd be good to pick up? I'm using artifact of command and don't have any dlcs btw

+not going for a win against Mithrix just want to do stupid stuff and go late game, maybe even try out something hidden I've heard about with the obelisk since I've got the right item

[primal vector]

srhooms heal on a % of yout HP basis. If you get trancesdence, it will count as if you have 1 HP

[honest badger]

it doesn't matter. you can't heal shields

oh i misunderstood

then yeah this

[ocean monolith]

When have I ever lied?

[drowsy thicket]

So transcendence will just mess me up even more? 💀

[honest badger]

idk i dont know you 😭 i never said lie

[ocean monolith]

Also, trusting a fucking wiki means nothing

[primal vector]

yeah

[ocean monolith]

If all your information comes from a wiki, then you have no reason to be trusted

[honest badger]

but i thought i regularly hit lvl 99 because of the enemy level thing so people can be stupid

[honest badger]

what is bro saying to me

[primal vector]

Try Rejuvenation Rack

[drowsy thicket]

Bro chill 💔 what did bro do to you 😭

[ocean monolith]

I’m stating facts

[drowsy thicket]

I have 1 rejuv rack should I just stack them?

Also is there any way of getting rid of lunar items, in this case corpsebloom

[primal vector]

Accordig to the wiki "The Rejuvenation Rack
affects the Corpsebloom twice: it increases the healing when it is stored, and increases it again hen the healing is actually applied. Additionally, the rack's second healing increase is applied after the Corpsebloom caps the healing over time, meaning that the Rack also increases the maximum amount of health that can be recovered per second. For instance, with a single Corpsebloom and Rejuvenation Rack, the player receives 8 times as much healing and can recover a maximum of 20% of their health per second."

[primal vector]

Yes, absolutely. With the cleansing pools

Random spawns like chests and srhines

[drowsy thicket]

Are they rare spawns or are they somewhat consistent the further you get into the run?

Cause damn I need to get rid of that damn flower lmao

[primal vector]

They can only spawn on certain stages

[drowsy thicket]

Also ty for this, this is good to know

[honest badger]

cleansing pools mainly spawn on verdant falls, aphelian sanctuary, sulphur pools and sirens call

[drowsy thicket]

When I get home from work I AM HUUUUNTING that pool until I find it

[honest badger]

they're actually really good too because they give you (+10% max hp) or (+10% all stats)

[primal vector]

If you have the second DLC they also spawn on treeborn

[primal vector]

I was letting them to be surprised by that

[ashen sigil]

so stupid

[drowsy thicket]

Bye bye stupid flowers, will that help with getting the constant overhealth? Or would I need other items?

[ashen sigil]

i just added 4 aegis to myself and my max shield is the exact same is that normal

[urban narwhal]

is there a hard cap on how many crabs spawn at stage 6? i swear i seen like 6 total spawn and not more at all

[drowsy thicket]

Dw with my memory I'll be surprised once I find it 💀

[lavish jacinth]

No, they just spawn slowly

[honest badger]

it doesn't affect max shield, only regen to shield conversion

each one increases the amount of barrier that regen gives you

[lavish jacinth]

Wdym constant overhealth, you mean aegis?

[ashen sigil]

oh so that + rejuv jack is insane

[urban narwhal]

this spawn speed is awful, im sitting for like >10 mins now and i have swarms on

[drowsy thicket]

Yeah I'm wondering what items make aegis even stronger, so that I can potentially have constant max shield from aegis [I don't have any dlcs so not dlc items]

[honest badger]

It's still aegis, so not very good imo, but rejuv rack does help it a lot

[lavish jacinth]

aegis is kinda garbage ngl

[drowsy thicket]

Even though I've got like 15 shrooms and playing engi? Won't that provide constant burst overhealth?

[lavish jacinth]

I was about to say, bungus engie is like the sole exception

[honest badger]

it does just double your effective health yeah

[lavish jacinth]

But even it's honestly not worth trying to make aegis stronger, compared to buffing damage or whatever

[ocean monolith]

And Scorched Acres

And Treeborn Colony

[honest badger]

true i think, i never see any on scorched acres so i forgot

[urban narwhal]

is that 20 krabs total or 1 run/ 1 stage?

[honest badger]

total

[ocean monolith]

I’ve gotten a Lunar Pod and a Cleansing Pool on Acres twice in the past week

[honest badger]

they're not that sadistic

[urban narwhal]

its already really bad

for almost 20 minutes not a single crab spawned

[ashen sigil]

why do u want crabs

[urban narwhal]

demons and krabs

i instead keep getting swarms of the triangle turrets and stone titan assaults

[lavish jacinth]

I assume you're killing other enemies that aren't crabs

[drowsy thicket]

Alright, just stuff like attack speed so that other items can proc more often? [Bleed and uke for example]

[lavish jacinth]

Yep

[urban narwhal]

ye, at least the ones chasing me, and i clear out the triangle guys periodically

[honest badger]

artifact of swarms helps

[daring cloak]

I wouldnt use swarms personally

[urban narwhal]

i am using it

[drowsy thicket]

Nice, is there at any point where one can have too many shrooms? As in at some point do they fall off in range/healing per tick or can I potentially place a turret down and have him heal across the whole map

[daring cloak]

It might be quicker but the crabs are also twice as fragile meaning accidentally killing them is even easier

[lavish jacinth]

It's faster as long as they're careful

[lavish jacinth]

There's no limit to their range, but it only increases by a small amount per stack

Unless you're just stacking it for memes you really don't need that many, as long as your turrets are healing enough to stay alive

Unlike damage, it is possible to have 'enough healing'

[drowsy thicket]

Yeahhhh they are, but it would lowkey be funny having them have HUGE range, but when talking about efficiency it's better to make them shoot as fast as possible

Are there any "key items" or so to speak for the engi, items that are basically a "must have"

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, bungus is the obvious one lol. Even that isn't a hard requirement for him to win

[honest badger]

just about every item is better on engi, but for stationary turrets id say you mainly want these items more than other survivors:

• 

and unstable transmitter

[lavish jacinth]

[honest badger]

oh and if you're running thermal harpoons

[ocean monolith]

The Zoea corrupting the Empathy Cores

[honest badger]

is also a big dps boost for engi

[honest badger]

it is a sacrifice i am willing to make

[lavish jacinth]

is good too if you end up relying on elixirs more than bungus

[urban narwhal]

oh my god finally free. after like 30 mins or sth

[lavish jacinth]

Nice
The good news is that it's the worst item unlock in the game, so all the others will be easier lol

[urban narwhal]

that was my last unlock, i just need environment logs, monster and survivor logs ig, and to find the items

[honest badger]

actually clover is the worst because looping sucks ass /j

[urban narwhal]

the 57 leaf one?

i already had it unlocked for a while

i unlocked it while trying to unlock as many artifacts as i could

[drowsy thicket]

I checked out the items and I'm not sure about empathy cores, wouldn't they potentially make the engi build worse due to the ally limit therefore not being able to place down engi turrets?

[lavish jacinth]

You can always place turrets

They count towards the ally cap but aren't limited by it

[honest badger]

also, your newest ally always takes priority

[drowsy thicket]

Niceeeeeee

[urban narwhal]

how to intentionally skip mythix's last phase?

[lavish jacinth]

It would be kinda shitty if the minion-based character couldn't use his minions because he had too many minions lol

[drowsy thicket]

One last possibly dumb question, but once I'm able to get empathy cores should I bait the enemies to the bought turrets and drones so that even more eye-bots can spawn from the item?

[lavish jacinth]

Proc kjaro's band on him at the very end of phase 3 while he's in the middle of the arena

[daring cloak]

You can only have 2 empathy cores

[urban narwhal]

oh alrighty, will try

[lavish jacinth]

Stacking cores doesn't spawn more of them, it just makes their damage bonus stronger

[daring cloak]

Even if you stack the item, the damage scaling will increase not the amount of probes

Empathy cores actually get stronger the more other allies you have

[drowsy thicket]

Fr? I thought that once 2 spawn in 30 seconds they continuously spawn

[daring cloak]

No

[drowsy thicket]

My bad 💀

[daring cloak]

It just takes 30 seconds to respawn

[golden ledge]

could i have some tips on how to get serrated shiv

[urban narwhal]

in case. the headbands completly negate fall damage even with frality on?

[honest badger]

headbands is a new one

they're called headstomp-v2 btw

[lavish jacinth]

Stack some backup mags and stab alloy worship unit a bunch, use lights out to refresh charges
(Backup mags are optional tbh, they just make it easier)

[urban narwhal]

oh

[lavish jacinth]

Erm aktually it's H3AD-ST V2

But yeah everyone just calls them headstompers

[honest badger]

what if i kill you

[lavish jacinth]

Also yes

[urban narwhal]

epic w

now im ready to demolish mithrix stage 5

[waxen nova]

Actually it's H3AD-5T v2

How does burn scale

[ashen sigil]

why pluripotent larva

[honest badger]

same reason as dios

each turret gets their own, even if they die and you remake them

[urban narwhal]

in case. 57 clover works on the teddy bear right?

[ashen sigil]

guys i have 164 cautious slug, 10 rev jacks, 6 aegis

how many shaped glasses can i handle as heretic

i currently have 6 and im not dying yet

[ashen sigil]

i think this roughly equals to 9840 cautious slugs(?)

[peak jacinth]

well the slugs completely offset the degeneration

so it doesn’t really matter

<@&559786374228738069> smite

[ashen sigil]

wait if i get transcendence do i take 0 dmg from heretic

[peak jacinth]

yes

[forest depot]

palish2272 was banned.

[ashen sigil]

ru sure

[peak jacinth]

but you already take 0 damage from slugs and that would make like 180 of your items useless

[peak jacinth]

yes

[ocean monolith]

No

[urban narwhal]

aw :c

[ocean monolith]

That would be extremely busted

[urban narwhal]

typical legendary pov

[ashen sigil]

wats the maximum ammount of shaped glasses u can take before u die

[honest badger]

none, they aren't lethal

[steady stone]

128

Your health will round to 0

Well, 127 is the max
128 kills you

[ashen sigil]

my destiny calls

[urban narwhal]

about the secret survivor. do i unlock em in the lobby once i get to em?

[steady stone]

No

[honest badger]

oh

[ashen sigil]

is it 127 even if i have transcendence

[urban narwhal]

oh

[steady stone]

Thats why not too many people play heretic unless they have "alternative" ways to get lunar coins

Or mods to start as her

[ashen sigil]

heretic <3

[steady stone]

I would assume, since it takes a percent of your health

[urban narwhal]

i need to figure out a way to overheal properly

[daring cloak]

And by 128 it just rounds down to 0 no matter what

Or something similar, im not that familiar with the exact math behind it

[steady stone]

Computer can only store so many decimals

Also why there's variables for Bool Int Float Double Decimal and stuff, all just numbers but all to different precision

[honest badger]

decimal?

im unfamiliar with that as a data type

only byte, int, float, double, long, boolean, and sometimes string

[steady stone]

Decimal is the most precise one I believe, at least in C#
Unsure if it would be different in others

Most precise one I know at least

[ocean monolith]

[honest badger]

interesting

[ashen sigil]

why is the engineeer the clueless one

[ashen sigil]

if i get stoneflux pauldron(s) does the limit increase

[daring cloak]

No

You cant out hp the 128 stacks

[steady stone]

0*X=0 no matter what X is

[honest badger]

what if it's a really high number? like 26

[urban narwhal]

he literally said that 0*X=0, X belongs to R, ill also extend it by saying that fake numbers also give same result

[steady stone]

mm but they have a point
26 is a pretty big number

[urban narwhal]

fake number could be sth like sqrt of -1

[honest badger]

why she sqrting

[daring cloak]

Ok but have you done the test with 26?

[steady stone]

imaginary numbers aren't really relevant anyway
I don't think it can really do that

[urban narwhal]

seems to be about as strong as going w 30

[honest badger]

i cant count that high

[urban narwhal]

how about 50/0 then?

[ashen sigil]

too many numbers

other than tougher times/safer spaces what else can i stack to make it so i dont get 1 shot

[steady stone]

1-3 opals is pretty good, especially paired with Safer

For stacking you can just get 65 Safer for a 1 frame refresh anyway

[snow brook]

hi everyone
i am new to ror2, i started recently playing it on my laptop though i have a weird issue
when i used my controller (a ps5 controller to be specific) it recognized it, however it also kept switching back to keyboard constantly if i dont give it an input from the controller
it also automatically shoots for some reason while the controller is active ingame
does anyone know how to fix this?

[steady stone]

Also general healing, as you have OSP (one shot protection) when at like, 90%+ HP iirc?

[steady stone]

It sounds like it could be swapping and auto entering inputs because there's an input held down

Id say always make sure the controller is linked before launching, and press and release any key that is being "pressed" by the game

[snow brook]

so something like stick drift would be a cause or?

[steady stone]

More like if you hold space bar it will constantly enter that key

[snow brook]

interesting

[steady stone]

That's just a device thing though, not ror2 specific
Like you can hold any key while typing to get a bunch of them

[snow brook]

i see
well thank you for the help

ill try it tomorrow 👍

[urban narwhal]

ive got some items unlocked locked in command select.
does it mean its part of the other dlc?

[mellow crystal]

most likely yes

[urban narwhal]

4 white, 7 green, 5 red

[honest badger]

that checks out

[urban narwhal]

also 1 blue

also epic

[ashen sigil]

is there any way to get rid of an item in command

[daring cloak]

Not really

There are ways yes but theyre pretty convoluted or rng dependent

[ashen sigil]

which

[daring cloak]

Well you could take egocentrism which turns a random item into itself every minute but that would do more harm than good

Like there really isnt a practical way to get rid of an item in command without sacrificing some other stuff

[ashen sigil]

the game wont end can someone explain why

[daring cloak]

The game just kinda expects you to know what you take

[daring cloak]

Wdym the game wont end

Be more specific

I cant see your screen so I need more details on whats happening

[ashen sigil]

idk how to explain it just
i finished teleporter and clicked and it wont work

[daring cloak]

And your money is stuck at 0?

Because you wont teleport unless all your money has been turned into xp

[ashen sigil]

it randomly fixed itself

my fan theory is that happiest mask + malakite elites = infinite money farm

[daring cloak]

I dont quite see how that would work

Just in general, if you keep killing enemies you wont teleport because you keep getting more money

Especially in looped runs its easy to just passively kill many enemies in quick succession

[ashen sigil]

stage 49, lost seer lenses + missile

[daring cloak]

Definitely passively killing enemies

I never event went that far in a run

[ashen sigil]

this run is dead i cant get all 127 shaped glasses that i want

im just going a bit more and then obliterating

[daring cloak]

Did you take eulogy?

[ashen sigil]

wats eulogy

[daring cloak]

Or before that even
Do you have the survivors of the void dlc?

[ashen sigil]

yes

[daring cloak]

Oh yeah so eulogy zerp is a lunar item that has a 5% chance to turn any normal item on a stage into a lunar

This includes items that a printer would print

So if eulogy corrupted a white printer you could turn your white items into lunar items

[ashen sigil]

WHY WOULD ANYONE GET THIS 😭

[daring cloak]

Because its not that bad?

[ashen sigil]

me when i get my 47th stoneflux pauldron

[daring cloak]

You dont have to pick them up?

Like you can choose to just ignore unfavourable lunars

[ashen sigil]

oh

nvm then its okay

[daring cloak]

Why would you need to pick up the item? 😭

You can leave any item on the ground

(And tbh 47 stone fluxes arent even that bad if you get them early)

I once had a run where I printed 51 stone fluxes and just couldnt die throughout the entire run

[ashen sigil]

the forbidden no movement run

[daring cloak]

I wouldnt recommend doing it but it is possible

Assuming you can deal with this kind of speed

[urban narwhal]

Wait. About you guys infinite money farm. Dont enemies stop spawning after teleporter finishes charging?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[urban narwhal]

Yoooo, merc enjoyer

[daring cloak]

I was the captain

[ashen sigil]

yeah idk the mobs kept spawning

[trim lynx]

cold ass line

[daring cloak]

No that doesnt happen but there were likely a lot of remaining enemies that you kept killing

[urban narwhal]

How do i do the captains 4th supply option quest btw

[ashen sigil]

this kept happening for literally 5m

[urban narwhal]

And how in the world do i precisely finish mithrix with specifically supply drop

[daring cloak]

You just find a tc 280 drone on rallypoint delta and buy it, theyre very big and expensive but also a bit rare

Also I gotta say hacking beacons arent really as good as people say they are

[urban narwhal]

Oh.... Can you find one while not playing captain?

[ashen sigil]

i agree

personally i run double shock

[urban narwhal]

Idk. I didnt unlock anything on cap yet

[daring cloak]

Yes theyre just rare drones

[ashen sigil]

double shock perma stuns the halcyonite boss too so its ccool

[urban narwhal]

💀 dear gods. Ill never finish it if it isnt hardcoded only into cap runs

[daring cloak]

Why?

[urban narwhal]

I never seen it at all

[daring cloak]

Yeah because its rare

Youll come across one eventually

[urban narwhal]

And in all 3 of my long runs i kept picking rallypoint every time

[daring cloak]

Bruh only 3 runs?

[urban narwhal]

Long as in >20 stages (not counting cut ins)

[urban narwhal]

Im still kinda fresh

[daring cloak]

I mean over 20 stages each is quite a lot but just dont rush tbh

[urban narwhal]

And alot of my runs were dedicated to specific achievements that didnt require it

[daring cloak]

You'll get it when the game lets you get it

[urban narwhal]

Lol

Atm im bassicly trying to unlock everything

Im done with my 3 favs, and did huntress today

[ashen sigil]

forbidden 3 run master

[urban narwhal]

I managed to get stage 5 unlock all but it was kinda hellish for me to setup

[urban narwhal]

Lol

[ashen sigil]

see its happening again my money isnt falling down

[urban narwhal]

Sry i cant see it (lol)

[ashen sigil]

the tp is doen but mobs keep spawning

ican someone explain me this glitch

i think happiest mask is making the mobs endlessly kill eachother

no yeah im correct, malachites endlessly kill eachother

and since i have 100% well not 100% like 99% because of 13 clovers its an endless cycle of them respawning

until one day they wont because of the 1% ish chance of nto spawning

okay well i guess im gonna go watch a movie
(its been 30m its still going)