ror2-game-questions

[mellow crystal]

i think it does but i might just be placeboing myself

[vapid crypt]

anyone having issues joining lobbies? My friend cant join my multiplayer lobby and i cant join his

[lavish jacinth]

assuming you're both on steam

1. make sure you both have crossplay turned off in settings
2. if either of you is running any non-clientside mods, disable them or share them so you're running the same ones
3. make sure you're both visible on steam

[vapid crypt]

all the above has been attempted

[lavish jacinth]

in that case #ror2-tech-support might be able to help

[vapid crypt]

ai thanks for the help

[honest badger]

i figured it out immediately by just looking around

[mint mauve]

whats a cloaked chest?

[fresh umbra]

chest (i think with small chest loot) but invisible. Open it and you get an item

[mint mauve]

they must be rare
i've never seen one before

[fresh umbra]

Of course you haven’t seen one before, they’re invisible

But yea idk how rare they are considering i never know if i’ve missed one or not

[honest badger]

they're relatively common

well, no

i just see them a lot in stagerecap

[prime parcel]

What's the easiest way to deal with final phase (item yoink) mithrix when using slow characters?

had a really easy time with artificer up until I got blasted instantly during that phase

couldn't even get off an ice spear

[worldly olive]

Walk in a circle

And keep your distance I guess

But unless mithrix has an absurd amount of speed you can just walk in a circle and dodge all his needles

[steady stone]

That, or use the pillars to fight during his downtime between bursts

Ice spear also goes thru walls so

[prime parcel]

yeah maybe wasn't the best idea to be floating in the air whilst he was transitioning

[lavish jacinth]

easiest and safest way is to just stay behind cover and poke him to death from a distance

another good trick is to stay near him as he's stealing your items and then run away at the last second, that way your minions lag behind and aggro to him as soon as he's vulnerable instead of following you, giving you a distraction and some free damage

and if you have , fix any dead drones to get some turrets up

[quasi crystal]

For danger I found mercenary to be pretty scary before getting lots of items

[steady stone]

Survivors with stuns I find incredibly dangerous, as they have pretty good aim, such as Cryocharge on RG. Loader umbra, or similar burst characters that are relatively straight-forward (so no freezing like ), can be very easy if you are careful, as you can shut them down with a single good punch.

[quasi crystal]

Oh god I forgot about cryo rg

[prime parcel]

wait can void crawlies attatch to your sentries?

[steady stone]

Void Infestors can't infect mechanical enemies

Meaning goobos of Mult and Rex, and mechanical allies

Goobos of other characters and squid turrets though, they can be infested.

[prime parcel]

oh its cause I had pluripotent larva

[fresh umbra]

And allied beetle guards through queen’s gland

[daring cloak]

Ally alpha constructs likely too because they arent mechanical either

[pallid panther]

i have my artifact of rebirth set to a specific item. If its chosen in multiplayer, will all of the players get the same item?

[daring cloak]

No every player gets the item they themself put into the shrine

[pallid panther]

ahhhh

[sterile jacinth]

how does even work i can never find the “deliveries”

[mellow crystal]

it looks like a crashed multishop with two items

[sterile jacinth]

oh those things, i thought they were natural spawns lol

[tight schooner]

does my friend have to be the one himself to beat the Alloy Worship Unit to unlock Loader?

or can they just be in the party when we beat it

[mellow crystal]

nop, just has to be in the party
no idea if they have to be alive but i'd assume not

if they had to kill it themselves then it would probably specify like how one of mul-t's unlocks specifies "land the killing blow on an imp overlord with the preon accumulator"

[tight schooner]

TY!

[loud lynx]

Can I have a hint on how to unlock loader

[mellow crystal]

🥚

[wide parrot]

Special boss on a certain stage 4

[loud lynx]

Ok

[outer sierra]

what happens if i go to the bazzaar between time on alternate route, or go to void for what matter?

[high forum]

It’ll take you off the alternate path and back to the normal set of stages, and you’ll have to do it all again, iirc

[outer sierra]

bruh xc

[broken shale]

oh, forgot to ask this yesterdaym but what reds are best on huntress?

[foggy vessel]

bens raincoat

[mellow crystal]

all-around reds like
on flurry because you'll be stacking crit anyway
for utility spam

[broken shale]

Isn't behemoth better than scope?

[mellow crystal]

1 vs 1 yes
2+ vs 2+ no because behemoth stacks fucking radius for some reason
but either way they're reds so usually you won't stack them unless you find a cauldron

[trim narwhal]

this can depend overall

yes in general, but crit will amplify nonvoid bands sticky bombs etc, behemoth wont

[broken shale]

i assume icbm with shrimp

[outer sierra]

whats the golden portal at the end of the aurelonite fight?

[high forum]

It takes you to the next level

[nimble flame]

I am playing r02 as bandit and I start off mithrix's stage with the item that gives you 2 utility skills. I somehow lost it after some time. I am so confused

[mellow crystal]

eats items

[nimble flame]

And I just can't get it back?

[mellow crystal]

nop
it turns into more ego

[nimble flame]

imma run that mfer down with my glock

skill issue i suppose

im faded as fuck

[mellow crystal]

knowledge issue 😔

[outer sierra]

what happens when you go to the bazar between time, during an alternate path. will you be able to do the thing to get back in the path, or will you just be stuck doing normal path?

[mellow crystal]

the portal by default takes you to a regular stage but if you enter the bazaar from stage 1 or 2 then golden geodes will spawn around the bazaar
break 3 to spawn a green portal

[outer sierra]

im talking about like during the path, like i already started the path. i went there one but got the aurelonite stage so i didnt do the thing. im on stage 3 and can get back to it, but im unsure if it will allow me to go back to the alternate path

[mellow crystal]

you're on stage 3 so no
bazaar portal ALWAYS takes you to regular stages unless you break the geodes for green portal
and geodes don't spawn if you go stage 3 -> bazaar

[broken shale]

does meat hook proc atgs?

[mellow crystal]

kinda dumb tbh but oh well

[mellow crystal]

yes

[broken shale]

ah oki

[fresh umbra]

You could run ego on loader and use her high mobility to get close enough and blow shit up

If you wanted to use that item

[vocal ferry]

im missing 1 evo log and it is Disturbed Impact but when i have 40 clovers the radio tower never spawns. is it bugged or am i just that unlucky

[mellow crystal]

it's bugged

[vocal ferry]

ok thank you

[trim kiln]

Hey what dlc should i buy ?

[high forum]

Survivors of the Void

[zealous adder]

Especially if you like Artificer. SotV has a lot more items. (Including one that makes Arty's fire debuff deal 4x damage)

[foggy vessel]

ngl which dlc has more busted stuff

safer spaces, tricorn, opal, credit card, wungus, spare drone parts vs chance doll, seed of life, runic lens, nectar, electric rang, sonorous whispers, sale star

probably sotv since opal spaces and equipment is way more accessible than the busted reds sots has

[lavish jacinth]

sotv adds more ways to create broken builds

like for example

[foggy vessel]

true

maybe sotv is more niche? i feel like sots items are 'win' items like elec procs crazy on mando and whoever isnt huntress/melee, runic can proc in loops, sale/chance doll give you more or better items

and then seed/shrine is just an extra life without the rarity of dios

[lavish jacinth]

the way I see it is that sotv has higher highs and lower lows with its items, while sots items are consistently pretty strong but never get too crazy

[lavish jacinth]

nah, not really. The only thing they give you is strong enemies to kill for more gold, and in lategame you always have more than enough gold anyway

[trim narwhal]

if you found a tricorn post teleporter, u could use it and dip, or also sonorous whispers can drop you items, though doing it for whispers is still kinda 'overkill' lategame. if you can shit on a lategame combat shrine so easily that its worth getting like 2 whites, you probably didnt really need those whites

[foggy vessel]

or if youre good enough it does no harm

more gold/xp when you leave

[calm island]

anyone know why my friends frames are dropping to like 2 fps? he says its only when he looks at a certain direction and this wasnt happening a few months ago

[lavish jacinth]

it could be a lot of things, it would help to narrow it down

1. Is it totally consistent or did it suddenly start at a specific stage or something?
2. Does lowering graphics settings make a difference? The game has been updated in the past few months so it's possible a setting got reset
3. Are they running any mods?

[calm island]

no mods, totally consistent im pretty sure? id have to ask him, and lowering graphics doesnt make a difference

yeah just asked totally consistent

[lavish jacinth]

ok, weird. If it happens on every stage and restarting doesn't fix it then I have no idea lol, sorry. You might try verifying files/reinstalling, not sure if it would help but it never hurts to try.

#ror2-tech-support might be able to help though, but answers there are slow (check pins first if you go there). Something else to do is check the game console (ctrl+alt+~ to enable) to see if there are any errors

also obligatory, turn off crossplay if you're on steam. This isn't a crossplay issue that I'm aware of, but crossplay causes at least like 80% of the bugs on PC lol

[broken shale]

How does this actually work?

[lavish jacinth]

caffienator spawns a vending machine that you can repeatedly use to spam fireworks and squid turrets

and icbm affects fireworks

[broken shale]

So you just spam open and close it?

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much, just keep buying soda from the machine

it does cost a small amount of gold and runs out after 12 uses, but that's never really an issue with how powerful the firework/turret spam is

[quasi crystal]

Add In a and oh baby rip everything in your way and your eardrums

[jovial whale]

So... Whats the chance of this? (With 2 sale stars)

[wide parrot]

really fucking tiny

Each item has a 20% chance to be a red iirc, and your second sale star only had a 5% chance to actually happen

[broken shale]

so how are orbs best used on seeker? :3

and should i take mainly watches for dmg aswell orrr?

[wide parrot]

the unga bunga strategy is to have 6 out at once and go into Sojourn and circle the enemies endlessly

The barrier gain from the orbs offsets the health decay and you can become immortal

[fallen bridge]

my math says 0.04% ...

[lyric silo]

too bad you got aegis and a red thats bad on loader...

[trim narwhal]

mix

[jovial whale]

I was shocked for 10 minutes after it happened

[jovial whale]

My luck was fully spent on that one

[foggy vessel]

hellfire tincture

hellfire is pretty good on seeker orbs since the orbs give you barrier on hit at a super fast rate it basically begates tincture without the need for armor plates

[lavish jacinth]

combo them with sojourn, fly around tanky enemies and farm damage and barrier off of them for as long as you can, using to tank sojourn's self damage. Sojourn's blast radius is based on how long you were in it, so when it ends you get a huge explosion that can take out smaller enemies.

is great for orb damage, along with stuff like watches and crit, and is amazing with sojourn. And procs are strong as usual (if you haven't noticed, procs are always good lol)

[full onyx]

guys i beat voidling phase 2 for the first time and the rift to go to phase 3 just literally is not there........................ is this a known bug or something? i rly dont wanna just fucking kill myself..............

[lavish jacinth]

yyyup, it's a known issue

[full onyx]

waow

[lavish jacinth]

voidling somehow found a way to be even more terrible

[full onyx]

thats fucking abysmal, excuse my language

so do i just............ die

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much

[full onyx]

................................................................

[mellow crystal]

this is actually not a bug it's a feature telling you to never fight voidling because it's a shit boss
||obligatory /j||

[lavish jacinth]

and to think, they almost got rid of it

[full onyx]

welp, good thing my therapy session is tomorrow at least-

[trim narwhal]

stuff like that is why i always play with debugtoolkit

so stupid shit doesnt just end the run

[blazing lichen]

did war bonds get buffed again?

there hasnt been a patch since March 4th right?

[lavish jacinth]

no, it got nerfed in phase 2, and there hasn't been an update since then

[blazing lichen]

i swear im playing a game rn and war bonds is goin crazy

[lavish jacinth]

it's still really strong

it can't proc anymore and it costs 50 per missile instead of 25, but it's still %hp damage and affected by multipliers

[full onyx]

how would you use debugtoolkit to fix an issue like this? (im very bad at using the console...)

[lavish jacinth]

I'm not even sure you could in this case

like, you could spawn another voidling, but I don't think spawning it that way would count as the actual boss

[trim narwhal]

id reload the stage

[lavish jacinth]

true

[trim narwhal]

if the bug persists and it just never works, idk i guess ill fight kipkip or smth

[full onyx]

oh yeahh propersave right? i accidentally disabled it at some point, i forgot about that mod-

[trim narwhal]

no, debugtoolkit can reset the stage

[foggy vessel]

this isnt even a competition

[north coral]

That “weak flying enemy” Has killed me more than any other enemy

[livid wedge]

Yeah, the blind pest does almost 5 times as much damage as the wisp

Rigged question

[foggy vessel]

also im pretty sure blind pest doesnt have the "get stunned when hit for more than 10% health taken" thing

[honest badger]

lesser wisp

blind pests are easy as fuck to dodge

they're overhated

ill take blind pests over wisps any day

[honest badger]

cause it only hits you 10% as much

[primal vector]

And they got a huge nerf to their accuracy in SotS

[honest badger]

honestly inaccurate shots are harder to dodge

[fresh umbra]

^^^^^^^^
If the shots target you from far away and you keep moving, an accurate shot will always hit where you were when the attack was done, but an inaccurate shot might end up hitting you anyway

[livid wedge]

Are Growth Nectar and Irradiant Pearl multiplicative with each other or additive?

[livid scroll]

if i have longhaving solitude and go to a stage 4 variant can i find legendary chests?

[daring cloak]

Of course

[honest badger]

longhaving

[merry wharf]

WHY DOES THE FALSE SON KEEP ONE SHOTTING ME

[lavish jacinth]

because he does a lot of damage
also if you're dying to the laser specifically, it's because there's currently a horrible bug where it increases in damage every time he uses it, and it carries over between runs. Only way to reset it is to restart the game

[mellow crystal]

Aside from what Fax said there's also the Lunar Ruin debuff that increases your damage taken and is applied by some of his attacks (most notably the spikes and laser), would recommend clearing it with a geode if you get 3+ stacks

And the laser bug can be fixed with a mod called LaserRampFix

[signal burrow]

Is false son character good?

[sick sand]

Is he powerfully good? Yes. He's a very strong character.
Is he good in quality? He lacks polish but overall is decent. He gets very boring to play after your first few matches.

[signal burrow]

Alright thank you

[mellow crystal]

Def a lot more fun with laser burst imo but he's like loader and rg in that he's so strong with a simple gameplay loop that he's only fun in moderation

5 runs in a row as false son is boring but 15 runs in a row that are half false son is way less boring

[fleet rampart]

Hi im new to the game and just made it to the boss. I seem to be stuck tho as it appears there is an enemy inside a piller somehow.... Is this normal and is there a way to fix it? Its my first boss so i would rather not quit out if possible.

[primal vector]

Yeah, I afraid its a bug that may happen. Maybe if you have an attack with area effect

[steady stone]

Most AoE can hit it, and some characters have special tricks like engi putting a turret in the wall

[fleet rampart]

Dont think i do, im playing Railgunner 😦

i see the fire coming out of the enemy in the pillar but cant hit it at all

[primal vector]

I did it one time with the autoattack (primary attack)

I tried several angles and could get to it

Also maybe try pushing it out with the mines

But I would try the autoattack

[fleet rampart]

it also seems to be gaining more hea;lth

[primal vector]

Enemies level up as time goes on

[fleet rampart]

i see the auto hits tracking into the wall but no dmg is happening from any angle, i even tried getting on top of the pillar

sometime he can shoot me tho

[primal vector]

I dont know what else to say. I could fix it with railgunner but maybe it was on another pillar. I understand this is frustanting on your first time facing the boss

This bug is not that common, but happens form time to time

[mellow crystal]

there's a mod that fixes it if that helps

[fleet rampart]

can you still get achievements with mods? I havent unlocked most of the characters yet @mellow crystal

[mellow crystal]

yes

[fleet rampart]

Cool, is it wasy to install the mods? Never done it

easy

[steady stone]

It's relatively easy, yeah

[primal vector]

For RoR2 very easy

[steady stone]

#ror2-modding pins might have some info, but basically just need R2ModMan or ThunderStore

[lavish jacinth]

you'll need the mod manager but it's pretty easy once you have it https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/

[steady stone]

in these mod managers you can just hit "download" and it does most of it for you

also keeps them separate, so you can launch the game vanilla or modded

[fleet rampart]

install od manager or manual download?

[lavish jacinth]

for the mod manager itself you'll have to do manual download

but for everything else, use install with mod manager

[fleet rampart]

ok, thanks everyone

[lavish jacinth]

r2modman also installs dependencies automatically so you don't have to worry about that

[fleet rampart]

ok, its done. What mods should i install?

[lavish jacinth]

I think this is the one you want for the pillar thing specifically https://thunderstore.io/package/Goorakh/MithrixWispFix/

[fleet rampart]

Thnx

[mellow crystal]

while you're at it if you have the sots dlc you might want LaserRampFix too
fixes a bug with the dlc final boss that makes one of his attacks instakill you

for some reason all the final bosses have at least one bug that makes them impossible in certain circumstances 😭

[fleet rampart]

i dont think i do, i only have the void dlc. Thanks for the tip anyways

[lavish jacinth]

sadly there isn't a dedicated mod to fix the void boss's bug, which is that it just completely fails to spawn in its second phase sometimes. Debugtoolkit can indirectly fix just about anything though https://thunderstore.io/package/IHarbHD/DebugToolkit/

hopefully gearbox actually hotfixes some of this stuff instead of waiting like 3 more months for the next big patch

[primal vector]

Never happened to me. I think its the less common

[mellow crystal]

it's the least common but the most run-ending which is kinda funny

[fleet rampart]

Do you guys recommend the QoL modpack?

[mellow crystal]

which one exactly

[fleet rampart]

I think its called sweats

[lavish jacinth]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Ignos/Sweats_QoL_Modpack/ this?

[fleet rampart]

yes

[mellow crystal]

uhhh probably
i'd just recommend looking at the mods inside it and grabbing the ones you think would work for you tbh

[fleet rampart]

i looked up betterui which was recommended and that ne popped up

[lavish jacinth]

betterui is deprecated

[mellow crystal]

also qol modpack NOT having lookingglass is crazy

[lavish jacinth]

lookingglass is the one you want for better ui stuff

[lavish jacinth]

it's a year-old modpack tbf

[mellow crystal]

that makes sense then

[fleet rampart]

i see, any others i should look into as a new player?

[mellow crystal]

ngl lookingglass is really always my go-to for new players
gives full item descriptions and allows you to ping items to read their descriptions without picking them up, among other things

no need to check the logbook or anything

[lavish jacinth]

The game does have that partially as a built-in feature now though

first page of settings under the umbrella settings thing, it's called "inspect item". Also lets you see info on interactables and stuff

but lookingglass gives some extra info like player stats

I'm sure #ror2-modding could recommend some things too

most of the time when I run modded it's just debugging stuff, I'm not super familiar with the rest of the modding scene lol

[fleet rampart]

ok, sounds good. thanks again

[waxen nova]

if two players are playing with artifact of death on, and one dies, but the other has some sort of revive, is that revive nullified?

[honest badger]

i think they revive independently

[honest badger]

what does stone titan's sun thing even do

[lavish jacinth]

The thing that appears over its head? It just shoots little lasers at you occasionally

It barely does anything lol

[mellow crystal]

even if you tank all the lasers i dont think it even does half your health

[lavish jacinth]

It's equal to about 2.4 ticks of beam damage and only shoots once every 1.5s

[honest badger]

lmao really? i never even noticed

[opal willow]

still grindind hard on game questions huh

lowk fax machine the goat ever since ive been here you been answering questions

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah I live here

[wintry fjord]

What does b and e mean for bandit unlock

[mellow crystal]

kill mithrix phase 4 with your special

[wintry fjord]

No but like what does b and e mean not how to do it

[lavish jacinth]

I assume it stands for Breaking and Entering

[wintry fjord]

Ok but like why

[lavish jacinth]

Because bandit

[wintry fjord]

Aha

[loud lynx]

Which is the better dlc

[honest badger]

they're both good but i prefer sots

seekers of the storm

[loud lynx]

K

[mellow crystal]

get sotv if you want good items and survivors and sots if you want good stages, good final boss, and good items

well actually void locus is a good stage it just forces you to go to a bad final boss and is locked behind boring stuff

[mellow crystal]

generally yes
bungus is while you're not moving, wungus is while you're moving fast (sprinting)
ukulele is one hit of on 3 targets, polylute is three hits on a single target
willowisp is on kill, voidsent is on full health hit
bleed from tritip is over time, collapse is instant
and so on

the main outliers are but i'm p sure that's mostly because it's hard to come up with a proper reverse of them or they corrupt multiple items ( )

[zealous adder]

Runald's/Kjaro's Band do their damage instantly (or at least start doing their damage instantly) on high damage hits. Void Band does its damage after a delay. (it also sucks)(pun intended)

[hoary sedge]

lens makers consistently helps you kill things over time faster and lost seers inconsistently instantly kills things

[vestal radish]

are Growth Nectar multiplicative Health increases like Damage

[waxen nova]

Do stacks of affect aurelionite's (i hope i spelled it right, her name is weird to spell...) appearance during false son's third phase?

[livid wedge]

@full apex do you know how stat multipliers interact like that?

Whoops, left ping on

[vestal radish]

No visual effects, but stacks of item makes her stronger in phase 3

[peak jacinth]

pretty sure the stat buff is multiplicative for every stat

it’s at least multiplicative for every other stat, so I’d assume the same is true for health

[daring cloak]

Speed is additive

[peak jacinth]

don’t attack speed and move speed just work weirdly with it

[daring cloak]

No im fairly sure at least movement speed additive

[peak jacinth]

maybe it’s just attack speed that’s weird

[daring cloak]

Aside from tonic because tonic is built different

[elder kettle]

i barely know what to build or how to build and i feel like the only charatcer i get good runs on is huntress since thats the character i know how to build
any help? (specifically on captain and maybe engineer)
-# basically what items do i even go beside the usual ones i still feel very weak past late game

[peak jacinth]

ok looking at the wiki, it seems like nectar just works weirdly

the stat buffs are reportedly multiplicative with base stats

but it doesn’t exactly say how items effect this

like it doesn’t give +16% crit chance it gives 1.16x

[marble osprey]

It multiplies after items, so if you have 50% crit chance from glasses and stuff, you end up with 58% crit chance
I was also under the impression it was also multiplicative with speed but I haven't tested it personally

[peak jacinth]

I was under the impression that all the stats were multiplicative but yea I also haven’t tested it

[marble osprey]

It definitely feels like more of a boost than basically one goat hoof if you pick it up with multiple speed items

[lavish jacinth]

as a general rule, the best thing to build is always a just 'a bit of everything', you don't usually need to worry about getting super specific items in order to win. Items tend to build on each other's effects (especially damage) and are generally designed with the games' randomness in mind. And overall, prioritize damage > speed > healing/defense

But usually characters will fall into one of two groups, either proc or burst
proc survivors are defined by low damage and high fire rate, like and lean towards random on-hit effects, such as etc

Burst survivors are the opposite, high damage with low attack speed, like and they favor reliable damage multipliers like

but those are just loose guidelines, a lot of survivors fall somewhere between those two categories and you should always be aiming for variety.

[elder kettle]

i see, this explains a lot specifically the on hit effect part.
i would guess i have to build a lot of on hit / chance items due to captains 8 pallets?
(also i do like playing on artifact on command since i find it more easy or more relaxing i could say)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, captain's primary is about the same as commando's in terms of proc rate, each pellet rolls procs independently. And again, don't worry about getting specific items for a "perfect" build, because an ideal build is often just a bunch of random stuff mixed together so they can amplify each others effects.

I actually recommend not playing with command for people wanting to actively get better at the game, getting random items forces you to learn how everything works and how to utilize items effectively. Oftentimes when new players play command they tend to settle into "comfortable" builds and are afraid to experiment, even though it's nearly impossible to 'ruin' a command run and you can nearly always recover from a mistake.

(Obviously you don't have to though, play however you want)

also for engineer specifically, just gonna throw these out here because he's an oddball and synergizes with damn near everything in one way or another, but those are some notable ones

[sterile jacinth]

how rare is it for elites to drop an aspect

[primal vector]

A lot

1/4000

[sterile jacinth]

daMN

i got one a few days ago when i was just trying to test out desperado after getting it lmao

[elder kettle]

I know I am very late, but thank you so much! I got it. And about playing without command, I will give it a try as well! I appreciate the help and I understood everything as well.

[full apex]

Stat buffs like movespeed or attack speed tend to add, in the stat calc function each item is applied in order. Some effects are special though, like tonic or nectar aren't included in that normal chunks, so they just come after and will multiply the other changes. Like tonic doesn't have a line in the hp part and also in the damage part etc, just after all that is done there's a big block where tonic modifies all relevant stats

Damage buffs like watch and ap rounds and stuff aren't actually stat changes, so they all multiply each other in the method where damage is finally calculated

Also ping is fine, i was away so it lets me catch up haha

[steady stone]

is there a place i can find WHERE a song is played? "Prelude in D-Flat Major" doesn't seem familiar, but kinda does at one part.

it's so calm i cant think of where it would be
very much threw me off for a second thinking i swapped from ror2 to classical

[lavish jacinth]

it's from the simulacrum player select

[steady stone]

aaah, that's why it's not that familiar
my whopping 30 mins in simu coming into play

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Soundtrack

[rare pawn]

is it worth doing halcyon shrine on eclipse?

[honest badger]

it's three large chests with double dice advantage

[rare pawn]

i dont seem to get reds very often and the amount of time it takes to kill enemies and get enough gold to do it always puts me behind

but i know the possibility is still def there so i wanted to ask

[honest badger]

well not three large chests*

but it's still a lot of loot

time matters less than loot

[lavish jacinth]

it takes 60 seconds to fully charge the whole thing (assuming you have enough gold to charge it nonstop), and you get 3 items out of it.
1 item per minute is considered a good pace, so 3 items in a minute is really good even if it feels slow

and on top of that you get a choice of items, and a good loot table

[rare pawn]

take 1 minute to fully charge 1 hour to get enough gold to power it on first enviro

[lavish jacinth]

it really doesn't take that long lol

[rare pawn]

it takes me so long 😭

[lavish jacinth]

especially if you do it at the end of the stage

[rare pawn]

ive not had enough gold after doing teleporter before

[lavish jacinth]

gold drops scale in real time, enemies will drop more gold later in the stage

for reference it takes 300 gold to charge initially and scales like chests do, so it's basically 6 large chests.
If you finish the tp with around 200 gold (which is pretty easy) the golems it spawns will usually make up the difference, in my experience. e6 might throw it off a bit but it should still be close enough

[rare pawn]

yeah i think i was one off this time tbf BUT it was outrageous 😭

ive just noticed my runs where i do the shrine are the ones where i fall behind on the 1 item per min ratio

the most often

[lavish jacinth]

mathematically it's fairly easy for the shrines to be time-efficient, and honestly with how good their loot pool is, it's worth it even if you fall behind a little bit imo

they just feel really bad because they charge so slowly, I think

Also if I'm not mistaken, they cost 50 credits to spawn after stage 1, so you're missing out on 2-3 chests worth of loot if you don't do them (I think they cost 0 on stage 1 which is why they're so much common)

[wintry fjord]

Wait you can get it on other stages?!?!??!!??!

[lavish jacinth]

on certain stages, yeah

[wintry fjord]

Really that's cool

[trim narwhal]

one thing you can also do is do it before teleporter, kill teleporter boss and grab their item, and just leave through the portal instead of charging tp, but youll have to have looted the rest of the stage as well. money can be tight for this though, easiest if ur eg sojourning blood shrines or etc

[limber eagle]

Does anyone know what the precise ally limit is? I've seen pages on the wiki stating it as 15, and 20

[lavish jacinth]

There's a soft cap of 20 (including players, so in practice it's 19 at most) but the way it works is weird.
Having the max number of minions prevents new passive minions from spawning, but you can still buy drones, which afaik have no limit, and existing passive minions won't despawn. and engineer turrets can always be placed ofc

if there's a limit to drones, you aren't likely to hit it in a run, lol.

[limber eagle]

I haven't come across it, even in looping

but I know passive minions stop spwaning after a certain number of allies are already present, as you said

I didn't know it included players, that's odd

I'm guessing it includes other players, too?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

idk why the wiki lists the max as 15 in some places though

[limber eagle]

I assume it was changed at one point?

[lavish jacinth]

I think there's just a lot of confusion around it since the cap isn't clear in game

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think so

[limber eagle]

that's odd then

[lavish jacinth]

some of the pages also say 16 lol

[flat narwhal]

Double rebar on Mul T should I focus on just Crit + Crowbars?

[lavish jacinth]

go for lots of stuff, you never wanna focus on just a couple of items. Procs that deal total damage or damage multipliers are always good

the more item variety you have, the more ways items can multiply each other

[broken shale]

What loadout is ideal on loader?

[daring cloak]

I'd say the alt secondary and default utility are generally better, the specials are about equal balance wise although they serve different purposes so see which one you find more fun

[broken shale]

What abt special?

[daring cloak]

Pylon is a weak crowd control tool that can fend off a large number of smaller enemies but its real value comes from being able to grapple it and getting its momentum when you manage to grapple it right as it gets sent out

Thunderslam is a strong slam to the ground, if you can use the grapple to get high up you can use slam to get a lot of momentum going downwards which pairs well with the utility

[broken shale]

Ig yeh, ty for the advice

I cannot pick between pylon or slam, or alt ultil and deafult thou, pick for me :3

[daring cloak]

Default utility and pylon

[broken shale]

Okiii

What abt items for loader? :3

[wide parrot]

Burst damage items

all good on her

[broken shale]

I assume stuff like backup mags and afterburners

[wide parrot]

also great for mobility yes

not like she needs it but it's funny

[broken shale]

im a little curious, should be balancing out goat hooves and energy drinks?, or just taking majority of one?

on all characters

[wide parrot]

balance is usually what I aim for, unless the character has Agile

if you have Agile just get drinks

[wide parrot]

Any Lunar Spike you have boosts your defense, while for every Lunar Spike you are below your current maximum your Speed is boosted.

Lunar Spikes also apply a strong debuff, so just not using them isn't a good call

Also, at base, your speed is really freaking slow while you have max Lunar Spikes, so using them is a good thing.

[broken shale]

is ever really worth taking? :3

[broken shale]

yeah ig

[foggy vessel]

yeah its pretty strong imo

actually hot take i think its better than wisp, even tho it does less damage it procs immediately+ often times wisp has too much knockback that it knocks enemies away from other blasts

but i think voidsent has a teenie bit of knockback too

[primal vector]

And you still have gasoline

[daring cloak]

Big chests are not guaranteed

[north nexus]

"The Planetarium is an alternate final stage Environment introduced in the Survivors of the Void expansion. The Planetarium can be accessed by clearing all the Deep Void Signals within the Void Locus and entering the Deep Void Portal, or alternatively by petting the glass frog on Commencement 10 times after defeating Mithrix. "

Can someone explain it in easy? I cant make it right. How do I access the Planetarium?

[daring cloak]

Go to void locus or pet the glads frog on commencement 10 times after killing mithrix

The glass frog will be at the location that you spawn in

[north nexus]

I thought the gameis over after you beat Mithrix

[daring cloak]

Yes but if you dont charge the escape ship and instead pet the frog you can go to the planetarium

[north nexus]

ah

and I ahve to do it 10 times or can I click him simply 10 times?

[daring cloak]

10 times

Also petting the glass frog costs one lunar coin per pet

[north nexus]

ok

[wide parrot]

You can do it ten times in one run if that’s what you mean

Everytime you want to do it you have to pay

[livid scroll]

help?

[steady stone]

Assuming restarting didn't help, I'd go to steam and verify the game files

[mellow crystal]

restart steam

[livid scroll]

ty

i restared my pc

[north nexus]

Is there a list of what is worth stacking high?

[livid scroll]

depends on survivor

[north nexus]

okay. is there a list on what to stack high on survivors?

[waxen nova]

when a challenge states to "kill the final boss with [survivor skill]", do you have to kill mithrix or can you also do the challenge on voidling/false son?

[ocean monolith]

It has to be Phase 4 Mithrix

[mellow crystal]

better off asking individually tbh
tho smth that is always worth stacking is crit

[daring cloak]

Except for bandit and especially railgunner

[north nexus]

Lets say Acrid and Railgunner

[fallen bridge]

acrid likes raw damage items since they boost poison damage, runner likes burst items like crowbar, bands, atg, stickies, uke, etc.
mobility is great on all survivors as well

[winter trellis]

How do I get the heretic survivor

[daring cloak]

You dont "get" the survivor as much as you transform into her

[winter trellis]

How?

[daring cloak]

Once you pick up the 4 heresy items and you turn into the heretic

[winter trellis]

Idk how to get that

[daring cloak]

Theyre just lunar items you may encounter

[winter trellis]

Once you do that is she selectable in the character pick before a match?

[daring cloak]

No she is only playable with that transformation

[winter trellis]

Glglglgldkg

[daring cloak]

Since she needs the heresy items to have her skills

[winter trellis]

how do you get this guy

[fresh umbra]

Dlc

[winter trellis]

What about lost son?

[fresh umbra]

Shes the seeker (of the storm)

[daring cloak]

Also dlc

[winter trellis]

What about the chef?

[daring cloak]

These are all dlc

[winter trellis]

Does it come with survivors of the void

[daring cloak]

No

[winter trellis]

Witch one

[daring cloak]

Seeker chef and false son come with seekers of the storm

[winter trellis]

Which

[daring cloak]

Railgunner and void fiend with survivors of the void

[winter trellis]

Oooooooh

[daring cloak]

Afaik can use the wiki to check which content comes from which dlc https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/

[winter trellis]

How do you get to the place where you have to “obliterate” yourself to unlock mercenaries

[daring cloak]

Go to stage 8 and after beating the teleporter event go into the celestial portal

[winter trellis]

And do you think the seekers of the storm dlc is worth it?

[daring cloak]

To go to stages 6 and beyond you need to loop, want an explanation on that?

[winter trellis]

Nah but thanks,

[daring cloak]

K

[winter trellis]

Idk how I unlocked all of the characters on my old steam account 😭

[primal vector]

Many things you will unlock just by playing and trying different things

[broken shale]

@daring cloak hey wertus, what are some of the silly mul-t loadouts :3

(apart from double rebar)

[daring cloak]

Double nailgun and saw nailgun (both with powermode) are the other popular ones

Specifically for insane luminous shot synergy you could also go for rebar saw powermode because the secondary attack in powermode does charge luminous and saw is by far the most spammable

Though you can really try out all kinds of combinations

[broken shale]

oh luminous shot works with powermode like that? :0

[daring cloak]

He's a multi tool robot after all

[daring cloak]

Yeah its quite unusual but offers a lot of interesting strats

[broken shale]

thats fun

how is scrap launcher in general?

[hoary sedge]

not great imo, its kinda trying to be a middle ground between nailgun and rebar but instead of being a jack of all trades its just bad at both

[lavish jacinth]

it's pretty good if you actually use it right

with retool you should just use it in bursts like you would with rebar, fire off a volley and switch to your other weapon while it's on cooldown

with PM it depends on your specific loadout, but with two scrap launchers you can alternate them for constant fire.
Scrap + Nail is also pretty good, it gets you a more accurate nailgun without the restrictions of saw and higher dps than rebar

[hoary sedge]

yeah that is decent but like...if im gonna be retool swapping id rather just do double rebar and get way higher damage

[lavish jacinth]

and obviously it's an aoe which is naturally just good

[lavish jacinth]

I mean if you're using retool at all then you're gonna be swapping weapons, that's kinda the point

[sterile jacinth]

will the sots characters get new unlocks in a future upd? i want more false son unlocks lmao

[mellow crystal]

no news regarding it afaik
hopefully they do tho 😭

if they are then most likely gonna be in phase 3

[mighty harbor]

does breaching fin stack well

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's pretty good. It's a little awkward to keep juggling enemies when they're way up in the air, but that damage vulnerability is really strong and more airtime means you can take advantage of it for longer

[mighty harbor]

aight thx, time to go crazy

[primal vector]

And the fall damage

[visual cypress]

If someone were to offer a large bounty to do a hitless ror2 monsoon run, you think they would? No artifacts, all dlc, until they win? It seems like no one has done it before on Youtube yet

[fallen bridge]

that wouldn't be crazy difficult w/ huntress

[visual cypress]

Nah, mercenary

[visual cypress]

Fr though, I would love to see it if I don’t do it

[loud lynx]

What stages are the gold chests in

[trim narwhal]

i dont think it would be particularly interesting to watch for a lot of it

especially if you get eg some ceremonial dagger build going

[livid wedge]

If you mean legendary, they're only guaranteed on Abyssal Depths in a single fixed location and Sundered Grove in one of a set of fixed locationa

[livid wedge]

Both stages are stage 4s

They can appear on other stages but they're rare

[loud lynx]

K thx

[visual cypress]

Maybe, but I still havent seen it done before. Just a thought

[vocal bison]

hello! I just wanna know if pressing tab and movement halt is intended or its a mod of mine doing this

[steady stone]

like pressing tab is stopping you from moving, you mean?

if that's the case, it's probably a mod or binding conflict, since this is vanilla

[spark musk]

Any clues why when I go to Multiplayer there are no servers available?

[vocal bison]

hm, maybe ill try and find something thanks

[steady stone]

Try turning off crossplay, if that's not done already

[vocal bison]

and uh, yea it does stop me from moving

[clear flower]

hi there, how can i have a server for myself and my brother to play on? I set up one with pingperfect servers but it doesnt work.

[mellow crystal]

<@&559786374228738069> kill

[forest depot]

morifes was banned.

[daring cloak]

I open chat only to see a steam scam smh

[north nexus]

we bought after some year Void DLC. Its nice but why is Railgunner that imba and Void Fiend so boring? DO I miss something? ^^

[mellow crystal]

yeah viend is kinda boring overall
he hardly even has much movement tech to make up for it, afaik there's just boosting with m2 after exiting utility and that's it

also wdym "imba"

full looting is always best

i've beaten a lot of monsoon runs with like 45-50mins on the timer by the end

if you can kill them without much of an issue, then you might as well since they give gold anyway iirc, but otherwise if you're having a bad run then it's best to avoid them

[north nexus]

imbalanced

[mellow crystal]

ohh
yeah railgunner is blatantly op lmao
she and are the biggest examples of this game's "fun over balance" design philosophy

too but sots survivor reworks are coming up soon so he might get nerfed, who knows

[limber eagle]

Does 's Burst have default Bullet Falloff, of Buckshot Falloff?

[mighty harbor]

is it actually worth doing false son on first loop now? iirc it doesnt put you in helminth anymore so you dont skip a stage and you have meridian cauldrons and extra loot with frozen time

[mellow crystal]

yes

[stoic oyster]

hmm, as i understand it, 's achievement to get the alternate special loadout can be done easily by using shield health, yes?
I had trancendance, the lunar item that turns your health into shields, and then went and completed scorched acres, the red tree area, proceeding to siren's call. should i not have just gotten this unlock?
the only thing i can think that might have interfered, is me using one of those 30% health shrines that bring you back if you die. but i didn't need to use it, so unless the 30% reduction of my 1 max HP counted as "falling below 100% Health", i'm stumped as to why the unlock didn't trigger

[mellow crystal]

shield health counts as max health

[stoic oyster]

ahh

some youtuber told me otherwise lol, whoops

[livid wedge]

Yeah, what you want is barrier, like from and . Barrier at full health counts as having above 100%

[stoic oyster]

alright, cheers

[limber eagle]

Safer Spaces will also help immensely

[wary lintel]

should i get returns on pc if i already have ror2 and its dlcs on ps5 but want mods or not?

[mellow crystal]

it's the intended way to play with it but in practice poison is still better in both situations

[mellow crystal]

might as well
your money your choice, so

[peak jacinth]

yes, though blight will fall off at around stage 3-4 where poison will start doing more damage regardless

[wary lintel]

as in returns or 2

[limber eagle]

I meant, which one of the two?

[next barn]

okay is there an easier way to locate the halcyon specks in the bazaar? i cannot find the 3rd one lmao

[simple halo]

So how are you supposed to fight the false son? Am I just doing it wrong? He still seems to just backhand you with an attack out of nowhere that instantly kills you

[simple halo]

the what now?

[simple halo]

if you're a melee character you better pray

[next barn]

detailed here in the wiki: tldr lets you continue the PotC from the bazaar

[simple halo]

I dont really see much reason to go POTC unless you just want a different run type ig, rewards are mediocre

[next barn]

yeah i was just in the middle of a run when i realized i dont have the prime meridian skin so i figured id try this since i got the text prompt

[simple halo]

I guess you can do the run when you have better gear? Cause I think a lot of POTCs difficulty just stems from that you only get 3 stages of loot

and I swear the POTC maps give less loot in general

[next barn]

yeah its mostly sunk cost rn i found two of these little fucks and would like to find the third lol

[simple halo]

I might just keep doing normal runs and just do POTC if I stumble upon a shop like this or if a green portal spawns

you can still find ways into POTC after being partially through a run right? I tend to only see halcyon shrines on the first or second stages

[next barn]

yeah you can

[limber eagle]

alright, good to know, ty

[mellow crystal]

you do need either mobility items or a mobility skill for phase 1
for phases 2 and 3, consult the silly clips

the main thing you need for phase 1 is either some movespeed or a wax quail so you can quickly jump out of his slam radius

[graceful stirrup]

Can I get ascendant in multiplayer? Cause mote shrine spawns right?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, why wouldn't you

You can also use artifact of sacrifice and command to get more shrines

[graceful stirrup]

Oh nice alr. I just got th3 game on ps5 so I'll have to do that

Wait but how does command give more shrines?

[lavish jacinth]

It removes printers, scrappers and multishops

It has less of an impact than sacrifice, but it still helps

[graceful stirrup]

Oh I didn't know that, nice. Thanks

[graceful stirrup]

Also is monsoon better than drizzle for shrines?

[full apex]

Doesn't matter, difficulty doesn't affect what interactables spawn

[golden ledge]

ive got a pretty nutty looped commando run going with like every proc item in the base game and idk if i should fight the final boss or not

[hoary sedge]

you should go for the true ending (loop until the game crashes)

[golden ledge]

i just unlocked clover so i might

edit: i died to some scav :(

[sterile jacinth]

is there an easy way to get the demons and the crabs or do i basically just have to hope they bug out and fall through the map because there is literally no place for them to fall off the map

[sterile jacinth]

anyone

[hoary sedge]

go to the bazaar on stage 5 and dream for titanic plains

hermit crabs spawn there post loop

you could alternatively do dissonance and kin and just restart until you roll crabs but that would probably be way more tedious

playing rex or railgunner or bringing primordial cube can also make it easier to get them off the edge but it's not required bc they run directly away from you if you get close

[signal burrow]

Little confused on how to approach False sons playstyle
And how important is growth and beside infusions what offers growth?
Little guidance please

[waxen nova]

If the wiki is right, hermit crabs don't spawn with dissonance on

[brittle kelp]

to get false son, does aurelionite need to kill the boss or do i just need the seed in my inventory?

[signal burrow]

You need the seed
He summons against you last fase of true son in the bossfight and then kill aurelionite first then true son

[brittle kelp]

thank you

[signal burrow]

You’re welcome

[primal vector]

Steak, beads, stone pauldron, tonic

Regarding the playstyle. Its difficult to say as its no very polished. Its a tank and hits very hard in short range. For big flying enemies, debuf with shards and then laser

[signal burrow]

Thank you

[signal burrow]

Tonic actually contributes?

[brittle kelp]

if i go to bazaar after entering a green portal, will exiting bazaar take me to the next green or back to a normal stage

[primal vector]

Yes. According to the wiki, anything that increases base max hp. Even if temporary like nectar

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/False_Son

[primal vector]

I think normal

[brittle kelp]

:(

[winter trellis]

How do I get to the place to get mercenary

[waxen nova]

Loop and make it to a stage 3, where you'll find a celestial portal after clearing the teleporter event

[winter trellis]

How do I loop?

Also I’m so bad I can’t even beat the king of nothing on drizzle 😭😭😭

[steady stone]

instead of making a circle they will merge to be 2 stacks

[waxen nova]

You can also loop by entering a blue/gold/artifact portal on a stage 5

[steady stone]

anything but the normal exit

[winter trellis]

What’s the normal exit?

[waxen nova]

The center of the teleporter

[steady stone]

the teleporter unadjusted

[winter trellis]

Huh

[steady stone]

the prongs just change the destination from moon to the planet

[winter trellis]

Ok

So I don’t have to fight mithrix?

[steady stone]

loop orientation

[waxen nova]

No

[winter trellis]

I had no idea you could do that

[steady stone]

No, mithrix either will end the run after or you can do voidling before ending

[waxen nova]

Also to add to this, you have to change the orientation before starting the teleporter event otherwise you can't adjust it

[winter trellis]

I thought you had to fight him

[steady stone]

i mean eventually you can fight him or do the other endings
you get back to sky meadow on stage 10, 15, etc

[winter trellis]

Flower

What do you do after you loop?

[waxen nova]

You basically run through the first 5 stages again but because of how time affects run progression, they become harder

[steady stone]

uhh it's mostly for unlocking stuff and fun ig? you just do the 5 stages again and can loop again or go mithrix

[winter trellis]

I mean what do you do to get mercenary after you looo

[steady stone]

oh

there's a celestial portal every stage 3 after looping

obliterate yourself from existence.

[winter trellis]

Do I have to go into the celestial portal?

[waxen nova]

Yea

[steady stone]

no requirement other than the stage, so no like newt altar or anything

[winter trellis]

Then die?

[steady stone]

kind of, just progress through the stage
like dont kill yourself

[waxen nova]

Interact with the obelisk at the bottom twice

[steady stone]

you shouldnt be able to die without Frailty actually but

[waxen nova]

You technically die but it counts as finishing a run

[winter trellis]

Ok

Thanks

I think risk of rain has the nicest community I’ve ever seen for a game

[brittle kelp]

get back to voxl..

[winter trellis]

?

[brittle kelp]

nothing, know the guy personally

[hasty night]

is there crossplay between playstation and xbox?

[fresh umbra]

Nope

[hasty night]

ok

[fresh umbra]

Only crossplay is between epic games and steam

[daring cloak]

And even that is a buggy mess

[trim lynx]

:D

[steady stone]

<@&559786374228738069>

[forest depot]

david022817 was banned.

[visual idol]

die

[steady stone]

why doesnt mithrix do that during p4 is he stupid

[visual idol]

dont talk to me about betting odds unless you can fix a game

[daring cloak]

He doesnt have the mystic and fabled creature called "discord moderator" to give the order during the fight

[sterile jacinth]

does 57 leaf clover increase the chances of enemies dropping items with artifact of sacrifice

[lavish jacinth]

no

[steady stone]

Laser of the father does a lot of damage with a lot of hits making it good for proccing on top, while laser burst has no charge and, unlike laser of the father, has no falloff

burst also has pierce

i guess the closest thing i would compare it to is like, suppressive fire vs ice spear?

[trim narwhal]

unless patched, pretty sure burst doesnt actually pierce

it also cant crit unless they fixed that too

father better overall unless certain builds with a lot of growth, because burst gives %spikes back, but at that point it probably wouldnt matter which one u took

[steady stone]

wha why does it say pierce in the description then -_-

"a piercing laser" iirc

[trim narwhal]

average ror2 desc

havent tested this patch but at least from release to item rework patch it hasnt pierced

[proven fossil]

Burst is by far the inferior choice

[daring cloak]

Not really

[mellow crystal]

Burst allows you to keep lunar ruin up

[daring cloak]

Burst is less damage by itself but its far better at letting you stack lunar ruin

[mellow crystal]

Since laser of the father requires you either sacrifice lunar ruin stacks to keep it firing or cancel it SUPER early to keep lunar ruin up which ruins the entire point of laser of the father

Burst is funnily enough also better than lotf for the false son fight because while survivor son can usually tank shit to make up for the slowdown, boss son is a lot more threatening than mithrix or standard enemies

[elder kettle]

are void glasses really worth it over crit glasses? i feel like i pump out a lot more dmg having crit chance than have a chance to instantly kill

[mellow crystal]

99% of the time no crit glasses better

vlasses are only good if you're doing an insane looped run and a single enemy takes 2 minutes to kill

[elder kettle]

by that you mean the void ones right?

ah nevermind

[mellow crystal]

better than

[elder kettle]

yeah thats what i was really thinking, i never go beyond that point and without crit i feel like i am doing less damage whenever i pick up vglasses and i dont get that lucky with the procs

long loops for me are usually boring as after a certain amount it feels more like a chore than a game so i avoid them

[mellow crystal]

yeah same tbh

[elder kettle]

most of the characters i enjoy tend to be kinda too broken in the late runs but arent that tanky to make up for it so i cant really sit still without pausing or lose tempo so yeah i think i will stick to not grabbing vlasses, thanks

[surreal idol]

hey guys noob question, if i reinstall risk of rain 2, will my mods still work ?

[urban narwhal]

what gets added in the void dlc?
besides 2 chars, void area and void items

[zealous adder]

A few new enemies, and bosses. 2 new elite types. A bunch of non-void items.

[urban narwhal]

oh

[hoary sedge]

also the void seed stage event and 3 regular stages

[daring cloak]

And an alternate gamemode where you fight off waves of enemies until you die

[honest badger]

yeah

r2modman loads mods from a remote repository so it's not affected by the contents of your install directory

unless you manually installed

[surreal idol]

Ok thx, i use r2modman

[sterile jacinth]

does artifact of honor affect the droprates of items from artifact of sacrifice

[daring cloak]

No

The way honor works is that it just gives regular enemies elite aspects

Their stats and money reward are just like regular enemies

[waxen nova]

If you have an elite status through one of the respective equipments/ and the enemy has , can they kill you instantly if your health meets the threshold?

[daring cloak]

No you cannot die to execute effects

[sterile jacinth]

also last thing about sacrifice, is it generally better to play with swarm or better to play without it

[urban narwhal]

oh

[daring cloak]

Swarm lowers the item droprate but you still get more items than without swarms on average

[livid wedge]

It lowers the drop rate but there's a droprate floor it won't go below

[hardy bronze]

If i buy the survivors of the void dlc and host a lobby can i play it with my friend who doesn’t have the dlc?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[hardy bronze]

Also you get the executive card equipment from it right?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[hardy bronze]

K thanks

[livid wedge]

They just can't play as the sotv survivors but as long as you're there, they get the rest in your session

[livid wedge]

<@&559786374228738069>

[zealous adder]

DO NOT CLICK

[forest depot]

fakkezilla was banned.

[noble cloak]

ty mithrix

[zealous adder]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-2-mithrix-ror2-ligma-gif-602690108483393730

[compact wolf]

More like fake zilla

[primal vector]

@compact wolf we are under continued attack

[daring cloak]

Or these accounts are getting hacked within a minute of falling for the scam

[primal vector]

The thing

[daring cloak]

Either way this link should prolly get blacklisted too

[primal vector]

Thats a good idea

[floral sequoia]

Anybody have tips for trying to beat monsoon I have played the game for 3 years but I limit myself to drizzle and rainstorm until recently pls help.

[fresh umbra]

Full loot each stage, try to have more items than minutes, always stay moving (especially late-game)

[neon plaza]

where is phase 3?

[daring cloak]

Its being worked on

[lavish jacinth]

full-clearing stages efficiently is the biggest thing to practice. Getting at least one item per minute is a good rule of thumb, but it's okay to slow down to mess with printers and scrappers. Drones are worth grabbing too if you've got extra cash, but items are priority.

Ik someone else already said it but it really is worth hammering that point home, lol. Even on monsoon, the timer is more lenient than you might think, and items are how you get stronger.

[floral sequoia]

Thanks(:

[jolly tartan]

i have two questions. 1st, i am unable to unlock captain. i have escaped the moon countlesss times yet i havent gotten the achievment to unlock captain. 2nd, My logbook does not show anything, and no i dont have mods installed. so baiscally i am asking how to reslolve these issues, ive already asked about 4 times, yet i've been completely ignored.

[lavish jacinth]

wdym your logbook doesn't show anything, exactly?

[jolly tartan]

hold on lemme get a screenhsot

[lavish jacinth]

uh ok

well, I'd say the first step would be to reinstall/verify game files

[jolly tartan]

ive already tried that

[lavish jacinth]

And crossplay is turned off?
(This isn't a known crossplay issue but crossplay breaks so many things that it's just obligatory to ask lol)

[jolly tartan]

i can turn it off

[lavish jacinth]

definitely do that

as for the captain thing, if nothing else works you can at least force the unlock with a mod https://thunderstore.io/package/prodzpod/RealerCheatUnlocks/

[jolly tartan]

oooh ok thank you aaaa

[lavish jacinth]

but I have no idea what's up with the logbook, I've never seen that before.
#ror2-tech-support might have ideas but responses there are usually really slow

[jolly tartan]

aaaa i can tell TwT

still broke aagh

[lavish jacinth]

rip

you can also post in #1172187541349347429 about it and/or send a report to gearbox if you want. They'll probably want a log file, the pins in Tech support will tell you how to find that.
Problems with the logbook aren't unheard of but I've never seen it just straight up gone like that lol

[jolly tartan]

me niether, whihc really sucks

how does the unlock mod work?

[lavish jacinth]

you just right click on the thing you want to unlock

[jolly tartan]

ahh thank you

[lavish jacinth]

The only other thing I can think of is doing a total reset- uninstall the game, go into the games' folder and delete anything left over, and delete your save file (preferably after saving a backup somewhere else) and then reinstall.
save files are at C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam\userdata[Number]\632360\remote\UserProfiles

That's kind of a shot in the dark but I'm not sure what else to try

[jolly tartan]

alright i can try that real quick

[lavish jacinth]

yeee
and obviously cheatunlocks can get all your progress back on a new save

[jolly tartan]

faair

[jolly tartan]

which one do i do i have like 4

[lavish jacinth]

are you sure you're in the right folder? the saves should look like this

[lavish jacinth]

ah
try the third one, I think

[jolly tartan]

oki

[lavish jacinth]

yep, just move that to a different folder as a backup, and that should work I think

[jolly tartan]

okie

[steady stone]

(just to check before file editing - you have verified game files on Steam?)

[lavish jacinth]

when you restart ror2 it should ask you to to make a new profile and we'll see if that fixes anything

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[jolly tartan]

ok

[lavish jacinth]

...and if that doesn't work then I have no idea at all lmao, ror2 is just cursed on your pc

[steady stone]

after that i would try a hard reset

[lavish jacinth]

that's what we're doing

[steady stone]

"uninstall" through steam doesn't actually reset

[jolly tartan]

wuh

[steady stone]

ah, i was doing laundry so i tried to skim to catch up lol

[steady stone]

but about this - specifically delete the ror2 game folder through your File Explorer and try to launch, and reinstall at the error prompt

It will remove your custom binds like settings, though

[jolly tartan]

im so confuse

[steady stone]

like, in your Steamapps directory

"uninstall" from right clicking inside of the steam launcher doesnt fully remove it, as to not remove custom settings

i.e. this

[jolly tartan]

I AM HAVING A HARD TIME

oops caps

[steady stone]

with what specifically? i can take it slower if needed

provide some more screenshots of pathing required

[jolly tartan]

could we get into a vc ?

[steady stone]

i'd prefer not to, sorry

[jolly tartan]

aishduashyd

[jolly tartan]

its fine!

[steady stone]

right click to browse, go back 1 layer, and you should be able to find it

the 2nd photo being of the file explorer search bar thing

[lavish jacinth]

then just delete the whole Risk of Rain 2 folder

[jolly tartan]

ooh

[steady stone]

yeah, at the top there, it says "common"

click on that to go back 1 layer

opening the files starts you inside the game folder

[jolly tartan]

oooh ok

[lavish jacinth]

Just to clarify if it helps, what we're doing is nuking everything so that you get completely fresh install, to hopefully fix whatever's broken.
The save files are stored in a separate folder from the actual game files, so you need to get rid of both

[jolly tartan]

okj so game uninstalled yes

then just delete the whole ror2 thingy?

[steady stone]

yeah, hitting play should give you an error and ask if you want to reinstall

after the folder is gone

[lavish jacinth]

yep, that whole folder needs to get deleted

[steady stone]

since steam doesnt check for the directory (location of game) until requested on launch attempt

[lavish jacinth]

then once it's gone you can reinstall through steam

[jolly tartan]

i am so lost rahh

[steady stone]

is the "risk of rain 2" folder deleted?

from when you went into "common"

[jolly tartan]

yes

[steady stone]

hit play in Steam

[jolly tartan]

well it keeps coming back when i delet it is that whats it supposed to do?

[steady stone]

steam doesnt know it's gone yet, so hitting play makes it realise

[jolly tartan]

ooh ok

[steady stone]

it should hit you with some generic error, probably like "path not found"

and "play" turns into "install"

[jolly tartan]

im so confused its not deleteing

[steady stone]

did you uninstall through the steam GUI first? that could be the problem

[jolly tartan]

gui?

[steady stone]

just like, through the app

a graphic interface

[lavish jacinth]

this

[steady stone]

yeah, if you used that uninstall you might have to reinstall and then delete the folder without hitting "uninstall"

[jolly tartan]

ok i just did it

[steady stone]

since steam tries to maintain some info

[jolly tartan]

then i delet the file here right
?

[steady stone]

yeah, the entire ror2 folder

[jolly tartan]

ok

[steady stone]

and then this

[jolly tartan]

so is the file still supposed to be there or?

[steady stone]

uh, probably not
if i had to guess you used the steam uninstall

[jolly tartan]

yeah

was iu not suposed to?

[steady stone]

yeah, reinstall through steam and then delete the folder without hitting "uninstall" through this

[jolly tartan]

OOHH

[steady stone]

if i had to guess steam is trying to maintain the data for when you reinstall it lol

[jolly tartan]

ahh

its tsill there

[steady stone]

is the folder empty at least?

you could try launching and see if it yells at you (which would be good)

id say an order of operations that encompasses a lot would be install, launch, close, delete folder without telling steam, launch
launching before deletion might make it add temporary files that are only on first launch

[jolly tartan]

how do i do it without telling steam

[lavish jacinth]

just don't press this button

[jolly tartan]

oh so dont uninstall?

[lavish jacinth]

instead go straight here and delete the folder yourself

[jolly tartan]

i have but it kjeeps coming back

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, if you uninstall then steam will try to hold onto some data.
But in this case we don't want that, so we bypass steam and delete the folder manually

[steady stone]

specifically reinstall and then launch since you already uninstalled, to make steam think it's fine

and then delete it without it knowing

[jolly tartan]

i thought i wasnt supposed to uninstall it im so lost

[steady stone]

But you did, right? That's what we're trying to undo

[lavish jacinth]

we're not uninstalling it, we're deleting the folder. It's slightly different

[jolly tartan]

i keep trying but it doesnt get deleted

[steady stone]

Ok, so
Install the game and launch it
Do not hit "uninstall"
Go to the folder and delete it without touching it on steam at all
Then run it on steam

[steady stone]

The difference between uninstall and deleting the folder is kinda like throwing it outside and burning it

[jolly tartan]

i have it installed

do i open the game then deletye the folder?

[steady stone]

Open and close the game to add any startup files it might use

I know there's at least 2 that do that, because on sots launch every verify would add 2 files even if the game was perfect

Think of it like if I have a script to create a folder, the folder doesn't exist until the script is run

[jolly tartan]

file still wont delete

[lavish jacinth]

is there anything inside the folder after doing that?

[jolly tartan]

yes

[lavish jacinth]

hm

for the record, this process is pretty unusual
normally you can just delete stuff from that folder without any issues, at least in my experience

[steady stone]

let me try running an example with a random game like among us or something

[lavish jacinth]

unless this is like a windows 11 thing lol

[jolly tartan]

aagh im sorry this is being so hard

[steady stone]

this is what it should be after

on launch

[jolly tartan]

i know what you are doing, it just simply wont delete i dont know why aaa

im able to delete other games but ror2 refuses

[lavish jacinth]

it's simply too powerful

[jolly tartan]

apparently TwT]

[lavish jacinth]

on the bright side, I found someone else with a similar issue, maybe give this a shot

[steady stone]

task manager > risk of rain 2 > end task
task manager > steam > end task

since files cant be deleted while in use it might help

[lavish jacinth]

also worth a try, yeah

[steady stone]

but normally it would just tell you it's in use

[steady stone]

along with this someone else said they had to delete every subfolder individually and it worked

[jolly tartan]

how do i go about doing that (im kinda new to having a pc aa)

[steady stone]

winrar is the app that lets you make and open ZIP files

[jolly tartan]

oh god aaa

[lavish jacinth]

dw, it's free lol
and worth having for opening zips

[steady stone]

it actually wont let me screen capture the interfact for some reason but it would show up in your right click in File Explorer, like near properties

[steady stone]

you havent paid for your winrar subscription, i cant believe this...

[lavish jacinth]

the free trial never ends

[steady stone]

but yeah, winrar only really enforces their stuff if you're a company

you can buy a t shirt from them if you really want to support them

[jolly tartan]

how do i do this?

[steady stone]

you'll have to install winrar first, and then go through the installation wizard

[lavish jacinth]

once you have Winrar, right click the folder and you should see this in the list of options, click "add to archive". Then check 'delete after archiving' in the UI

[steady stone]

then it just works passively

https://www.win-rar.com/start.html?&L=0

this website is so old there's no embed picture 😭

winrar really gotta remake their stuff

[jolly tartan]

i dragged it into winwar is that fine

well i hope so i already clicked ok TwT

[steady stone]

uh, well, moving the location without telling steam might work?

but winwar is an application, not like a location for files

[lavish jacinth]

....huh.

[jolly tartan]

it pulled up the second image for me

[steady stone]

well uh next i might try deleting each subfolder

[steady stone]

worst case it will delete some and the one that doesnt delete is the problem folder

[jolly tartan]

WAIT

itr showed the message and now its installing

is that good or bad

[steady stone]

good? was it this?

[jolly tartan]

yes

[steady stone]

prooobably good

[lavish jacinth]

in that case it's good, hopefully

[jolly tartan]

aaaaaa

[lavish jacinth]

we'll find out when you check the logbook

[jolly tartan]

yeah

[steady stone]

or your settings

[jolly tartan]

rahh

[steady stone]

since your settings reset on full install

[livid wedge]

Would definitely recommend 7zip

[jolly tartan]

ooh didnt know that

[jolly tartan]

7zip?

[steady stone]

alternative to winrar

all zip file thingies

[livid wedge]

More featured and also free

[jolly tartan]

aagh

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't really matter which one you use honestly

[steady stone]

7zip is free, winrar is "free"

[lavish jacinth]

like, unless you use zip files a lot

[steady stone]

also 7zip is open source, if that matters

[jolly tartan]

i cant wait to go into computer science so i actually understand what yall saying

so 7 zip is better?

[lavish jacinth]

don't worry about it lol

[steady stone]

yeah it's not too important if you only use zip files once in a blue moon

[jolly tartan]

my settings full restared since my fps is goping up to 60 isntead of 144 aa

[lavish jacinth]

does the logbook exist?

[jolly tartan]

lemme look

no..

WQHYY s9ashui8DHGA

[lavish jacinth]

well shit

[steady stone]

[livid wedge]

For the average user winrar is good enough. I only sugget 7zip in this case because it does not ask you to purchase a license

[lavish jacinth]

well, I guess on the bright side, you can move your original save file back to this folder, since this means a corrupted save wasn't the issue

[steady stone]

i see "Create new profile and check logbooks then return back to your old profile." (referring to in-game profiles)

[jolly tartan]

only my settings restarted

[steady stone]

apparently "Update: Devs said it will be fixed with the next update." was 4+ years ago

[jolly tartan]

no way what TWT

[lavish jacinth]

lol

[steady stone]

but also this

[jolly tartan]

how do i crate newq profile?

[lavish jacinth]

top right on the main menu iirc

[steady stone]

bruh it's a steam community post

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the bot doesn't like steam links

[steady stone]

well i found "Nevermind, I found the solution in another post. Go into your main Steam directory, userdata, (lots of numbers folder), then 632360, userprofiles, and remove the two XML files and reload the game. Works like a dream. Hope this helps others." but mithrix doesnt want me to show you the full convo

[jolly tartan]

i can still see it dw

oh yahi tried that and didnt work

[steady stone]

free $50 gift card is fine tho

[jolly tartan]

didnt work aaa

[steady stone]

ahh there isn't actually much info on this specific thing online so it might be something generic like drivers

or a fun new case of the first discovery of a bug

[jolly tartan]

i would lose my mind

[steady stone]

there's like 3-4 mentions of this from 4-5 years ago

[jolly tartan]

im using a external harddrive is that the reason why?

[steady stone]

the only thing i know that would affect is transfer speed

aka like it might take longer to load because it moves the data

[jolly tartan]

aaa

[steady stone]

drivers isnt like, hard drive though, it's like your GPU drivers

software that lets them talk to your computer, it's good to keep them up to date

[jolly tartan]

whatever that measn Twt

aaah im sorry

[steady stone]

like uhh
computer tells your graphics card to display thing, but imagine that it's language isn't up to date
like if you told someone that speaks old english to read a modern book

[jolly tartan]

ohh

raahh i don't understand why my logbook is broken Twt

[steady stone]

well, you could file a bug report for the future, just throwing in the troubleshooting stuff that was attempted
i'm really hoping it's not the case, but gearbox might've reintroduced it from when it was fixed 4+ years ago, like a select few other bugs

[jolly tartan]

aaaaah

how do i file a bug reprt?

[steady stone]

we have #1172187541349347429 #1278019180154851358 and #1279239241616064523, you can just use any like #1172187541349347429

we only have 3 because we got so many on sots launch, it isn't that important nowadays

[jolly tartan]

aaah ok gotcha

[lavish jacinth]

you can also send a report directly to gearbox, check pins in #ror2-tech-support for how to do that. It also shows where to find the game's log files which would probably help a lot for a report

[steady stone]

the employees here do directly check the bug reports too, i've seen preston in and out of a few

[jolly tartan]

ooh ok gotcha

[waxen nova]

if mithrix steals prayer beads, does that count as removing them?

[steady stone]

im pretty sure, but im gonna fire up a debug game to test it

yeah

[nocturne sierra]

Does forgive me please trigger brainstalks?

[steady stone]

FMP doesn't kill an elite, so no

[nocturne sierra]

Ok

[daring thorn]

Do I need to be on monsoon to get veridian skins?

[steady stone]

No, just defeating False son

[daring thorn]

Okay thank you

[hoary sedge]

they should make it so that fmp can trigger brainstalks if honor is active

[steady stone]

It surprisingly doesn't, probably because honor would affect only spawns and FMP doesn't really kill anything

[hoary sedge]

yeah ik it doesnt, they should change it though

it makes everything elite :)

[honest badger]

do honor elites even trigger brainstalks

since they're just regular enemies with aspects

[steady stone]

yeah

dont all elites have aspects actually

[honest badger]

idk, i saw wertus talking about it

[steady stone]

"This item gets a near-permanent effect with the Artifact of Honor enabled."

i'm not sure about the specifics of any differences from regular and honor, though

[lavish jacinth]

honor elites have lower health and damage multipliers and don't drop any extra gold, but otherwise they're identical to normal elites

[jolly tartan]

how do i fix not loading past 99%?

modded ror2

[steady stone]

one of your mods is probably out of date
you can look at the date when they were last updated, or disable a handful at a time until it works, and then narrow the problem from there

[jolly tartan]

rahhhh

ive been uninstalling stuff this whole time when i didnt need to? TwT

[steady stone]

disabling works fine for troubleshooting yeah

i'd recommend disabling 5 mods, trying to launch, and then if it doesnt work you enable those again and disable the next 5
once you find the group, do one at a time

[jolly tartan]

raahh

so like, is 0.0.3 out of date?

[steady stone]

you'll never know the pain until you're on a bigger game with 200-2000 mods

[jolly tartan]

or 0.6.7?

[jolly tartan]

lordy TWT

[steady stone]

that's version history, specific to the mods themself

[jolly tartan]

im confused

[steady stone]

there should be something for "last updated" but you might have to click the button that is something like "view on website"

let me check rq

[jolly tartan]

oh no saugdaus

[jolly tartan]

i have to look through all 116 of them qwq

[steady stone]

yeah the disabling method is generally faster

but the date of updates is something to look at when installing them

[jolly tartan]

whats considered out of date

[steady stone]

since that is shown in the actual browser

uh depends on the size, but generally if it's after 3/4 i'd say it's good

since 3/4 was the last update

[honest badger]

really depends but anything updated before phase 2 is a gamble