ror2-game-questions

[mellow crystal]

By that logic I should answer bison steak to "what white items should I prioritize" because it's good on false son specifically
Elaboration is important

[peak jacinth]

that’s what chef was saying

[honest badger]

No, because planula heals on lesser damage, synergizes with healing rack, and can reduce below 1.

[wide parrot]

Even on bungus engi Aegis is mid

[honest badger]

they're literally asking about engineer specifically

[mellow crystal]

Fair enough then
Planula still dumb tho

[honest badger]

planula is not a bad item and im not gonna pretend like it is

[wide parrot]

Damage below 15 rarely ever happens at that stage in the game. I think only Templars and Lunar Wisps can do that. The fact that you mentioned a red to make it double the healing is not much of a point, cause then I could just get 3 more RAPs for the exact same effect bar the minimum damage clause

[peak jacinth]

planula basically has the same use cases of RAP, where it’s great against very small instances of damage, but mediocre against everything else, and that doesn’t leave it much room to be a good item

[mellow crystal]

You get planula at the end of stage 5 minimum w/o dissonance unless you get a yellow printer
A fucking lesser wisp does like 50 damage at that point, and you're not encountering lesser wisps past stage 5

[wide parrot]

Plus, at full health, Planula is just a RAP as that extra healing ain’t netting you any positives

[peak jacinth]

burn is the main one that you’ll see, which is an actual use case

[wide parrot]

What enemies apply burn? Excluding elites

I think it’s Lems and Elder Lems

[peak jacinth]

why excluding elites??

[mellow crystal]

Also if you need one specific red to make an item be good then maybe it's not a good item

[peak jacinth]

just elder lems iirc

[wide parrot]

Cause thats just an obvious answer I was actually curious

[honest badger]

1. We're talking about a command run where you can semi-consistently get it on early stages, read the chat before arguing
2. Cheap tick damage still exists from stage 5+ and is just disregarded due to everything else, the healing is even noticeable
3. Stacking 6 white items to compare with a yellow is a great argument as to why that yellow is good

[peak jacinth]

and also worms

but yea it’s mainly just because blazing elites will be more common

[ocean monolith]

Muscle memory for the hover

[peak jacinth]

ok that’s not a real reason

that’s entirely specific to you as a person lmao

[mellow crystal]

Why would I pick planula on an engi command run when perforators, shatterspleen, and murn exist

[honest badger]

they're all good items, literally pick any of them

[peak jacinth]

you have to admit that planula is significantly worse than a lot of other boss items

[ocean monolith]

I’d rather have BG than Void enemies

[mellow crystal]

And uke is a good item but I'm not taking it over bands on railgunner

[peak jacinth]

because you’re taking polylute

[honest badger]

it easily outclasses

[peak jacinth]

that’s awesome, but doesn’t change what I said whatsoever

[mellow crystal]

Outclasses worst item in the game, bad item, item that exists purely for a character unlock, bad item, and actually ok item

[honest badger]

I wouldn't. Void allies are overpowered and fun as fuck

[wide parrot]

1. Command run? Even worse to suggest planula when everything else is an option. No, the synergy with one red item does not set it above the rest.
2. Name more sources than what I did.
3. But we are not, we are comparing 3 whites to a yellow, or 6 whites to a yellow and a red. it takes 15 white items to make a red in cauldrons. White printers are also incredibly common, so it is much more feasible to get a shit ton of one white items over a yellow and red combo. Command run, you say? If you really need that chip damage reduction you have plenty of white item sources to stop it.

[ocean monolith]

I’ve seen it screw players over, and even then, it’s only useful on Flamethrower Arti, which is pretty stinky

[honest badger]

Easily outclassing more than half of the boss items in the game is not "worse than a lot of other boss items". At worst it's outclassed by DPS yellows which are widely considered some of the best items in the game.

[ocean monolith]

Planula is dogshit, BG is my bestie

[honest badger]

Are you even reading what I'm saying?

[mellow crystal]

Balance is a relative scale but it's not a particularly good idea to treat it that way when half of everything is overpowered and half of everything is utter dogshit

[wide parrot]

Are you?

[ocean monolith]

Mfw the Reaver kills you

[honest badger]

Yes I'm reading what I'm saying...

[peak jacinth]

I’ve seen players dodge attacks very well with it on arti so then it must be very good, see again its a player specific criticism of an item.

[wide parrot]

Then it’s just a lack of intelligence on your end.

[honest badger]

Lots of those items aren't even bad.

[honest badger]

Okay, fuck you. You're just an ass.

[wide parrot]

:3 goodbye bozo

[honest badger]

Reporting that shit

[ocean monolith]

Gottem

My fucking goat Mercenary

[honest badger]

Being a dick on the internet isn't really a commendable trait but whatever

[ocean monolith]

Mfw Ion Surge is a way better Feather

[peak jacinth]

mfw ion surge is the most boring playstyle in the game

[ocean monolith]

Mfw Flamethrower is dogshit

[wide parrot]

mfw I main surge arti and can confidently say that flamer is much more boring and also ass to use

[peak jacinth]

at least it’s fun

[mellow crystal]

It's fun when you use it for damage in combination with using it for mobility
Mini-headstompers

[wide parrot]

Yeah you gotta treat surge as a burst aoe, not an escape button

[peak jacinth]

ok it’s like a pico headstompers lmao

[ocean monolith]

Surge is also a pillar skip, so even more reason to pick it

[wide parrot]

Combine it with headstompers for world ending power

[mellow crystal]

Ion surge arti is boring in the sense that m1 spam as loader is boring
Yeah it's way too safe and bland but you could also just

Not play that way

[ocean monolith]

The only time I want Flamethrower, is against Stone Titans, but I can also just be out of range via Surge, which is always better than being on the Titan’s ass

[peak jacinth]

I just like the arti playstyle of rotating skills and I find arti with surge doesn’t do that very well

[wide parrot]

I find arti with surge does that better

[peak jacinth]

never said flamethrower was better

[mellow crystal]

I combo ion surge with charged bomb all the time idk what you mean

[wide parrot]

as the uptime with flamer makes you mostly focus on using flamer

[peak jacinth]

but you have no downtime

with surge you have downtime between skills

[wide parrot]

Surge arti doesn’t really either

[peak jacinth]

what yea she does

[wide parrot]

I main surge arti im kinda used to the string, not much downtime

[ocean monolith]

Agreed

[high forum]

if you can't be nice to people, you should take a break from your computer.

[mellow crystal]

Surge for burst damage -> charged ability -> m1 -> optional wall -> repeat

[wide parrot]

fair enough. I have stopped

[peak jacinth]

yea that literally has downtime lmao

[ocean monolith]

Also, if you need an Ignition Tank use, Flame Bolt is better than Flamethrower

[peak jacinth]

sure it’s not much, but I prefer the gamefeel of constantly rotating between skills with literally no downtime, it’s fun

[ocean monolith]

Me when I sprint cancel my skill (I lost damage so I can avoid taking damage)

[peak jacinth]

just don’t sprint cancel 🤯

[ocean monolith]

Just don’t use Flamethrower

[peak jacinth]

why

[mellow crystal]

Also flamethrower feels especially bad because the 3 seconds it takes it to deal its damage makes it feel weaker than it is
Like no way it does more damage than fucking false son slam

[ocean monolith]

Surge >> Flamethrower

[peak jacinth]

I like to play with flamethrower, I have fun while playing it, and it feels good to use in my opinion

[peak jacinth]

I don’t really get why you think I disagree lol

[ocean monolith]

Cause you aren’t agreeing with me

[peak jacinth]

I think surge is better than flamethrower but I have more fun using flamethrower, pretty simple 🤷‍♂️

[ocean monolith]

Shoulda said that sooner

[mellow crystal]

Firing mul-t nailgun in the same amount of time feels like you're dealing double the DPS when you objectively aren't

[peak jacinth]

to assume makes an ass out of u and me

[ocean monolith]

Me trying not to make a joke to respond to that message

[peak jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-fortnite-gold-scar-mysticl-kugel-gif-257451449538483036

[lavish jacinth]

I leave for like an hour and this channel goes to shit, can't leave you kids alone smh

[atomic crow]

hey gamers, is the second son fight bugged still? been in the third phase of the fight for around 10 minutes and I havent been able to shoot or use abilities the entire third phase. I pop the crystals as they show up, but the debuff never goes away

[lavish jacinth]

the geodes have a delay after activating them, you have to stay near them for a second before you get your skills back

[mellow crystal]

The geodes cleanse debuffs in a circle around them when popped, takes a bit for it to actually happen so just stick near the geode

[lavish jacinth]

idk why it doesn't just do it as soon as you touch them

[mellow crystal]

The aoe itself is pretty useful in multiplayer but yeah the delay is dumb

[atomic crow]

yeah im not sure why either, 0 clarity on that, thanks for the replies, lemme see if I can survive until another one spawns

[lavish jacinth]

there is a visual and sound cue for it, but yeah there's no indication that you actually HAVE to wait

[atomic crow]

that was it, finished the fight, thanks gamers

[jade parcel]

how might one easily get bandits alternative ability for lights out?

[mellow crystal]

Obligatory
Aside from that stack AP Rounds and crit and avoid stuff like bands and atgs that can damage him when you don't want to damage him

[jade parcel]

Obligatory?

[quasi crystal]

Oops thought you said alt m2

[mellow crystal]

Obligatory as in "I have to mention this because it's the go-to solution"
Not actually obligatory to do

[broken shale]

I have question :3

Does the game kick the host and client when steam goes funny

Had a god run with a friend and both got dced with a error msg related to steam

[lavish jacinth]

I don't do multiplayer a whole lot, but I wouldn't be surprised

obligatory "turn off crossplay if you haven't already"

[boreal herald]

I'm starting to enjoy Commando for the first time in ror2 what's the best red item for him?

[lavish jacinth]

any of the usual good ones + any of the sots items. is also nifty on him

also congratulations on becoming a commando main, that means you're officially a ror2 veteran

it happens to all of us eventually, it's like puberty for ror2 players

[boreal herald]

I main him in RoR I just didn't get the feel of him till now, thanks for the tip though

[peak jacinth]

as someone who plays a lot of mp usually only the player with the issue will get kicked, if that player is the host everyone will be kicked though

but also a “steam funny” sounds more like a “kill crossplay” moment like Fax said

[broken shale]

Sad, was like 1-2 mins away from huntress mastery lol

[serene mural]

where do the green and gold portals send you from gilded coast?

[lavish jacinth]

green takes you to path of the colossus, gold takes you back to normal stages

[serene mural]

thanks

[boreal herald]

Should I keep Ifrit's Distinction

Still playing Commando same run btw

[lavish jacinth]

sure

it's one of the aspects that's actually good

[boreal herald]

Aight

[cunning jay]

what are you guys' opinions on the artifact of dissonance? fun? unfun? interesting? uninteresting?

[lavish jacinth]

it's fine, it gives a slightly different gameplay experience ig

probably the best one if you just want some variety without significantly affecting core gameplay

[mellow crystal]

Yeah exactly this tbh

[still leaf]

Do yall ever go to void fields?
im new to the game and trying to beat eclipse 2 on railgunner but always die in the fields moving from one portal to the other

also dont know whether to full loot / when to loop ! game is so hard

[mellow crystal]

Really only if I'm going to voidling or I'm on an already-boring looped run
Void fields boring as hell anyway

[mellow crystal]

Ideally always full loot but don't waste time
And looping is really just completely optional unless you wanna obliterate

[still leaf]

yeah the time wasting is the hard part for me. like im always sitting there at a group of boxes waiting for people to spawn

[mellow crystal]

Not necessarily a bad thing to wait for spawns tbh, just don't slowly inch across the map because of a single chest that you can come back to later

[still leaf]

okie okie thanks thanks helpful

now just to figure out how to not get one shot

[dusky raven]

Just don’t get hit

[honest badger]

looping is a playstyle choice if anything

if you want to do 50 stages before fighting mithrix you can

[mellow crystal]

A boring one yea

[hardy shoal]

How many will of the wisps to cover the entirety of any map

[lavish jacinth]

depends on the map but approximately several hundred at least, it increases by 2.4m per stack, and for reference the teleporter radius is about 100m

if it matters, it would be easier to do with gasoline, it gains 4m per stack

[still leaf]

i mean i wanna win. heard too many loops is bad for mitrhix and eclipse but 0 loop feels so hard

[honest badger]

mithrix is easy once you're used to him

you only need one hopoo feather to dodge his attacks

[honest badger]

my advice is to stay near the ramps on the side, get above mithrix to dodge his hammer swing

[still leaf]

gotcha. i mean i have beat him on eclipse 1 a few times but getting there is the hard part for me lol

its probably cuz i only win when i have god run items

[trim narwhal]

you can loop til ur strong enough to oneshot and skip p4

if your goal is to climb eclipse though, you probably want to get better at unlooped runs

just cuz theyre faster

and theres a lot of eclipse to go through

[lavish jacinth]

looping makes mithrix easier if anything, usually it's commencement itself that becomes more of a problem. And even that becomes trivial eventually

[lavish jacinth]

yes

[cunning jay]

can someone explain why did activating a mountain shrine just spawned a blue orb?

[quasi crystal]

It didn't there's a chance a stage will have a blue orb appear for free

[cunning jay]

if it spawns randomly doesn't that mean it can be worth it to stay in the same stage waiting for one to appear?

[mellow crystal]

It spawns randomly on stage start, not over time

[cunning jay]

if you block something with tougher times, do you still gain medkit healing from the hit?

I assume no right? cause that would be a crazy synergy

[livid wedge]

No, if tougher times blocks it, it's as if the hit never connected

[cunning jay]

isn't the void key always the best option? or are there times when the normal one is better?

[fast briar]

Void key is always better basically but I recommend you to have at least 2 void keys so you can always use them, the void boxes spawn every stage anyway

[quasi crystal]

If I have a salestar, am going to mithfix and my void item economy is good sometimes I use the last void key and pick up a normal pretty specific scenario though

[primal vector]

normal key guarantees a green or red item. Void key doesnt

[mellow crystal]

But it does guarantee a void
And funnily enough half of the super good voids are whites

[prime parcel]

should I fight alloy unit with this setup?

haven't looted stage 4 yet

nvm I got blasted

[prime parcel]

would this be worth it?

[lethal abyss]

why do i tp baxk to stage 1 after using that primordial thing teleporter

[daring cloak]

You either used another portal or changed the direction of the primordial teleporter

Make sure the chat message doesnt say that the teleporter aligns with the planet

[lethal abyss]

yea that happend

how do i make sure that doesnt happen

[daring cloak]

Yeah so if you interact with the "walls" of the teleporter the alignment changes

If the walls pile up to two blocks the teleporter is aligned with the planet

But if they're spread out in a circle the teleporter is aligned with the moon

[lethal abyss]

ohh

[daring cloak]

You can change alignment back and forth as much as you want before activating the teleporter event

[lethal abyss]

so i have to align it with the planet to continue?

[daring cloak]

If you align it with the planet you loop and go back to stage 1

[lethal abyss]

oh so the moon

[daring cloak]

It needs to be aligned with the moon (which is the default alignment) to go to the last stage

[lethal abyss]

whats the point of looping anyways

[daring cloak]

Unlocking achievements, getting more items and doing alternate endings

[lethal abyss]

oh alr, tysm

[broken shale]

what eqiupment items goob on engi

[daring cloak]

Fuel array

[quasi crystal]

What isn't good on him is the real question

[daring cloak]

But in all seriousness its likely ones such as crowdfunder, gorags opus, goobo jr, recycler, exec card, woodsprite or caffeinator

Though it mostly depends on your build

[broken shale]

is royal capacitor a pick on engi orr does he not need it

[broken shale]

real

[daring cloak]

Royal capacitor is good too, most equipments are

It really just depends on how the run is going

[valid turtle]

goobo is so fun with all the bung

(goobo doesnt bung, but your turrets can bung on goobo)

[gilded dirge]

does the expose transfer diminish with distance?

cuz I have noticed that I gotta be pretty close if I want good results

[quasi crystal]

From what I can tell expose transfer lasts as long as mercs sword hitbox is out

[hoary sedge]

no but you shouldn't be using pressure mines anyway

[valid turtle]

Im gonna try e1, who should I play first?

(I have sotv)

[valid turtle]

ye, spider mines way better

[trim narwhal]

e1 is basically the same as monsoon except be a little more cautious on start of stage so

idk pick who u want

[quasi crystal]

I think you should start with engineer idk why just a hunch

[broken shale]

so in general, what items should i prioitize over normal picks on false son, or try to avoid

[placid eagle]

Could I unlock berserkers pauldron if I use rex and artifact of glass? I'd already be at 10% health and I'd just take self inflicted damage (in theory)

[lavish jacinth]

nah, the missing health from glass isn't treated as damage, it's just visual to show how much health you lost.

Pauldron is actually pretty easy though, you don't have to do the whole event below 10%, just the very end- so get the tp to 99%, jump off a cliff to get to 1hp, then run back and finish before it regenerates

[lavish jacinth]

damn near anything, false son is absurdly overpowered. Even bison steak is worth having because his passive gives buffs based on bonus health.

Only thing to avoid is , replacing all your health with shield nullifies his passive

[fresh umbra]

I have luminous shot, visions of heresy, and purity on acrid (0.5s cooldown secondary, but i’m not sure whether the first or second hit of visions is used in calculating the damage of luminous). Should i scrap luminous?

ok at level 16, each bolt does 6 damage. I scrapped it, but i still don’t know which hit’s damage is used

[lavish jacinth]

if it was only 6 then it would be the first hit, no other way it'd be that low

the initial hit only does 5% damage

[fresh umbra]

Alright

[hardy shoal]

What could this possibly be

[left tapir]

idk but i think i might have a conclusion

so with decimals some times they cant add up to exactly 100 so may be that is just to fill in the extra precentage

just a theory

[lavish jacinth]

the logbook is just jank sometimes

[ocean notch]

was the damage over time in the void fields just increased or something?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it ramps up over time like simulacrum now

[ocean notch]

i see

RIP tanking it with bungus

[lavish jacinth]

hopefully getting nerfed next patch because the amount of scaling is pretty unfair

[ocean notch]

yeah no it felt pretty bs, was not fun to be blindsided by it

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, a lot of people have been complaining about it in feedback

[lavish jacinth]

might be kills from but who knows, the logbook has dementia

even for that it seems pretty high

[hardy shoal]

That's likely then

[lavish jacinth]

it just makes shit up sometimes, a while back there was a guy whose logbook said he had over 100 years of playtime as a lesser wisp

[hardy shoal]

PC players modifying their data I can imagine

[lavish jacinth]

I kinda doubt it lmao, I don't even remember if he was on pc

and I'm pretty sure everyone gets weird stuff in their logbook if they've been playing long enough, most people just don't bother to check it

[hardy shoal]

My friend has more damage delt in one hit then total damage delt which is likely due to the absurdity of one specific run

[lavish jacinth]

yeah it's just really glitchy, I remember mine saying I've only killed mithrix like 5 times which is absolutely not true lol

I know I've got weird stats in there from testing and messing around with debug mods though

[fast briar]

lol I remember there was a bug that made it so it showed the playtime as a larva💀

[lavish jacinth]

the bug was that you'd spawn as a larva if you joined a multiplayer game without picking a character, or something like that

if anything the logbook would be functioning correctly in that case, since you did play as a larva lol

[safe ice]

i have like half the survivors with no logs because eclipse dont count as a clear

[signal gull]

Any info on when the phase 3 of the roadmap is being released?

[daring cloak]

Nope

I'd assume its gonna take about 2-3 more months although it could always take longer

[hardy shoal]

What's better 100 tougher times or "max" safer spaces

[full apex]

safer hits 1 frame recharge at 65 stacks

thats 90% block
100 tougher is 94% block chance

[honest badger]

wdym that's 90%

[full apex]

65 stacks of tougher would be 90% sorry

i mentioned that since thats what safer maxes out at

[honest badger]

yeah i definitely prefer max safer spaces since there are very few things that can bypass it

[lavish jacinth]

max safer spaces is always gonna be better in any practical scenario

[fresh umbra]

there was a bug
larva
The jokes write themselves

[peak jacinth]

unless that scenario is at mithrix

[lavish jacinth]

it's blacklisted on him now

[daring cloak]

Why

[livid wedge]

For the aforementioned reason?

[peak jacinth]

softlock?

[daring cloak]

Dont exist no more

[peak jacinth]

what are you saying why to

[daring cloak]

Safer spaces and tesla coil have been blacklisted from mithrix for a good while now

[livid wedge]

I thought coil was unblacklisted

[daring cloak]

Because the softlock doesnt exist anymore and mithrix is no exception to safer spaces being just better

[peak jacinth]

oh you’re saying why to me

[livid wedge]

On mithrix

[daring cloak]

Oh yeah I didnt notice that my message sent after afax'

[peak jacinth]

I didn’t know it was blacklisted

[hardy shoal]

I mean what provides the more defence, the "max" safer spaces (the 65 you mentioned) or 100 tougher times

[hardy shoal]

Reasonable

[full apex]

max safer is a 1 frame cooldown, so unless you get hit by multiple things on the same frame, youre invincible

[peak jacinth]

max safer spaces makes you invincible, so probably that

[full apex]

tougher would make you very resilient even to multi hits, but its more expensive and less consistent

blocking the vast majority of stuff is probably better than 1/10 or 1/20

[hardy shoal]

Anything that hits you every frame?

[full apex]

some shotgun stuff or multiple enemies

but safer is probably better

[mellow crystal]

Only thing I can think of for that is kjaro's and maybe sawmerang/electric boomerang???
But that's mostly an issue in vields and artifact of chaos multiplayer so like

[lavish jacinth]

iirc perfectly simultaneous hits like lesser wisps will get completely blocked, but slightly staggered hits like lem fireballs or a scav shotgun can get through sometimes

[full apex]

if you get burned/bled and hit on the same frame it ticks you'll get hurt

[lavish jacinth]

those don't even hit every frame, saw/boomerang just deal damage at set intervals, kjaros looks for a target every frame but once it finds one it's also a set interval

[full apex]

but you need to be burned/bled in the first place. and if you block a hit, it cant ignite or bleed you

[mellow crystal]

Makes sense

[hardy shoal]

How many frames is there between each tick of the blue fire from those ball things

[lavish jacinth]

the lunar exploder things?

[hardy shoal]

Yea

[lavish jacinth]

idk, more than one though

[hardy shoal]

Peak

[lavish jacinth]

there are very few things that will consistently hit every single frame

[full apex]

pool ticks 5/s so 12 frames between

i think

[runic canyon]

which seeker secondary ability do you guys prefer and why? and what are some item synergies for the alternate secondary?

[lavish jacinth]

I use orbs, more fun and kinda better imo

[ocean knoll]

I find unseen hand more fun because you can't stay in Sojourn the whole time

[runic canyon]

i felt like i was missing hand's range when i used orbs, as well as some of the crowd control

[lavish jacinth]

you play a lot more aggressively with orbs, use sojourn to get in and out and the barrier to not die

[runic canyon]

but orbs felt way stronger for tacking on dmg onto bosses, and also better defensively probably since barriers are preventative and healing is reactive

you also can still heal via barrier

[ocean knoll]

orbs are no doubt stronger

[blazing pecan]

small question is there anyway to join a friend who play on xbox if im on steam?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[blazing pecan]

ah ok

thanks

[runic canyon]

i think hand is an important proc no?

third hit of primary is 300-420 but with a proc of .75, hand deals 600 with proc of 1

[lavish jacinth]

it's a band proc, but it's barely any stronger than the one you get from sojourn

[runic canyon]

that's true. do you use sojourn for damage often? i always save the cooldown for movement or in case i need to invuln through something on reaction

[full apex]

balls are really great with light flux too, which is incredible on her already

[lavish jacinth]

depends on the situation, I'm usually not overly focused on dealing damage with it directly unless I'm actively going for that band proc, but I do try to capitalize on it if I've got orbs up, assuming I'm not about to die and need to escape

[runic canyon]

really? i've never messed around with light flux

[lavish jacinth]

orbs + sojourn + is amazing too

[runic canyon]

all the guides i've watched or read are from before seekers came out so i don't know any good seeker synergies aside from the stuff i've inferred on my own lol

[full apex]

yea
basically infinite sojourn, infinite balls which both mean basically infinite flight, spamming ult is tons of barrier

[runic canyon]

ult lol

[full apex]

m1 gets messed up a lil but its not necessary when you spend 100% of time in sojourn or casting balls

[runic canyon]

that all makes sense, and attack speed doesn't rlly affect her skills other than m1 right?

[full apex]

you dont need to worry about the self damage really since you can just recast whenever

[full apex]

yup they dont scale with it at all really

[lavish jacinth]

iirc her secondaries have a cast animation that's affected, but it's too short to really matter

[full apex]

thats kinda the main hallmark of a kit thats busted with a few lux, like acrid as well where spamming leap for movement and stuns with the pool stacking is crazy and infinite epidemic is a ton of good aoe and procs

[full apex]

i havent noticed with the balls, you can still mash full speed

idk about hand tho

[lavish jacinth]

I might just be remembering wrong then lol

[runic canyon]

so the strat is to make yourself immortal with orbs so you can be annoying in sojourn

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah I think sojourn is instant, and meditate only scales with how good you are at helldivers 2

[full apex]

basically yea. and orbs give damage in sojourn too, casting at max makes them faster

[runic canyon]

is seeker's healing to her teammates based on her own max health or whoever is being healed?

[mellow crystal]

If you play rhythm games then meditate scales great

[runic canyon]

also to follow up I was gonna ask if you use toggle or hold for sojourn, since I imagine hold is better for attacking just to get the instant burst

[lavish jacinth]

I use toggle because it was on by default and I just got used to it lol

I don't think there's a better option, just whatever's more comfortable

[full apex]

i didnt know it had a toggle lol

[lavish jacinth]

it's hidden under that umbrella settings thing

I wouldn't usually try to use it for the instant burst anyway though, if I'm using orbs I'm probably gonna stay in as long as I can to maximize damage. Plus the blast radius gets bigger the longer you're in it

[runic canyon]

yeah that's what i have as well

[runic canyon]

ok i'm trying the strat now and it makes sense. sojourn explosion scales to dramatic levels of single hit damage based on the amount of time you stay in it, and that's why farming the barriers with orbs is strong

with enough barriers you can absolutely chunk enemies

can i get enough barriers with just orbs and meditate to sojourn all the way up to mithrix?

nvm i have light flux pauldron + lycate cell + alien head i can literally just sojourn and meditate stall

[runic canyon]

@lavish jacinth do you think corpsebloom is good for this type of strategy?

[hardy shoal]

What do blood shrines do if you have 1 max health

[livid wedge]

If you mean if you have transcendance, shields are counted as part of health for them

[hardy shoal]

I have 80 shaped glass

1 max health

[trim narwhal]

yes, its uncapped. this is why bands have good synergy with sojourn, besides the obvious like razorwire

as for healing, healing drops to 0 after 10 seconds inside. its still helpful though and i mean band cooldown is 10 seconds. a 10 second flight is still like ~3000% damage in aoe of eclipse teleporter. if you have low healing corpsebloom can be fine, if your plan is to greatly outpace the dmg and use 10 second flights its bad, depending on your repulsion plates/bucklers etc. sojourn can do like around a 20% of your hp a second, while corpsebloom is capped at 10% of your hp a second

getting to 1 dmg per tick via repulsion plates is the ideal, first few bucklers can help especially if youre using longstanding solitude, but once youre at 1 dmg a tick you can stay in sojourn for minutes

[runic canyon]

is that her favorite white item?

[young orchid]

does killing the crab boi after mithrix will get me the beat the game skin

or do i have to escape using ship

[hardy shoal]

How fast does void fog damage tick

[mellow crystal]

Ending the run in any way except dying grants mastery

So mithrix, voidling, false son, and obliterating

[lavish jacinth]

(if you're on monsoon)

[honest badger]

and twisted scavs

[lavish jacinth]

2 ticks per second in void seeds, 5 per second everywhere else

it also ignores safer spaces/tougher times if that's why you're asking

[hardy shoal]

Fuuuck

[runic canyon]

you will live it until it scales up to 100% health

p sure

[honest badger]

depends on if it rounds up or down

i think it rounds up

[lavish jacinth]

damage always rounds up to at least 1 afaik

[hardy shoal]

Not for the blood shrines atleast

[runic canyon]

"If the player's total heath pool is reduced to 1 (Either from several Shaped Glass stacks, or from a really unlucky streak with Spinel Tonic debuffs), then they are functionally immune to the enhanced void fog, up to a certain point, as the health drain / damage ticks are percentage-based. You will still die from it if you spend too much time in the fog, as the percentage drain ramps up over time, eventually reaching the 100% threshold, which will deal the full 1 point of damage that kills the player."

voidling wiki entry

keep in mind void fields fog damage scales SIGNIFICANTLY faster than voidling's fog

[hardy shoal]

How much faster

[runic canyon]

https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Void_Fog

void fields is exponential while voidling is linear. it also has a higher initial dmg per tick

[fallen bridge]

you can do it whenever, but on e8 where it inflicts curse it is smarter to do it after tp ,,, but other than that it's okay to do it beforehand

[latent bough]

You can use it whenever, only punitive effect is health percentile
Sorry for dupe message

[trim narwhal]

until you get to 1 dmg per tick yes, after that its worthless. sojourn dmg per tick only scales with levels. for non looping runs 7-8 is all u need by moon, less if you have bucklers or etc. but the nature of how armor works means you always want some plates to "finish off" the remaining dmg

and also until you hit or approach the 1 dmg breakpoint, plate may not feel as strong. like if its stage 6 and i could choose between having like 1 plate total or some other white, i might prefer the other white

[cunning jay]

why are the items in the last stage sold with so much... inflation. idk what to call it. it's way more expensive

[high forum]

enemies are also worth more

[cunning jay]

yeah but i can't buy the items with the money they drop, so it's kinda useless

im referring to the ones that you buy using other items

[high forum]

do you mean the item cauldrons?

[cunning jay]

yes

[honest badger]

those are item forges and they only exist in bazaar, prime meridian, and commencement

they're just to exchange items for different rarities

[high forum]

they actually should all be the same value as in the bazaar

3 white -> 1 green, 5 green -> 1 red, 1 red -> 3 white

[lavish jacinth]

cauldrons aren't really meant to be a good deal, they're a strategic choice to improve your build, like a printer

the prices are actually pretty good if you consider that you're usually using them to get rid of scrap or junk items, an item that does something is worth a lot more than an item that does nothing

[runic canyon]

some things i picked up from messing around with the infinite sojourn strat:

• brooches are strong since they can extend your health pool even when healing turns to 0
• sojourn counts as sprinting so buckler, wungus, and especially disciple are strong items
• longstanding solitude strats (especially with crown, since it'll keep levelling you even when fighting mithrix) are pretty bad since they make it so you have to stack much more armor plating to reduce sojourn self-damage to 1

disciples only do 300% dmg so they don't steal band proc which i think is huge, controlling your band cooldown so it's always used on your billion dmg sojourn explosion and gets the total damage multiplier from that move instead is great

• max health items are REALLY GOOD, because they increase how much barrier you get from orbs which makes it easier to extend sojourn

• helfire tincture and glowing meteorite have literally now downside if you can extend sojourn long enough to outlast it

i can't believe i was playing seeker with unseen hand this whole time LMAO this is so much stronger, thank you guys for teaching me the way

[livid wedge]

Blast has more damaging procs and doesn't have damage falloff

[runic canyon]

i think burst is preferred because it has higher dmg output at close range, and you're usually gonna be close to your targets to trigger backstab

[livid wedge]

I think burst is probably stronger overall but it's definitely not like comparing rexs specials

[lavish jacinth]

it's mostly a playstyle difference, the rifle loses some raw dps up close but makes up for it with steady damage at any range and stronger proc potential

[trim narwhal]

this is false

[runic canyon]

why

[trim narwhal]

it isnt true, i can get a clip for you in a bit

and razorwire is very noteworthy with sojourn

[runic canyon]

which part isn't true 😭

[trim narwhal]

its 800% dps in aoe

0.5 coeff

barrier gain is flat

[runic canyon]

I didn't mention razorwire cus it was already mentioned by the ppl who were telling me about this strat

also wiki says orb barrier is based on max health

[trim narwhal]

wiki is misleading

in code its a % of max hp yes, but max hp of the survivor at level 1 with no other modifiers

and is essentially flat amount scaling with tranq stacks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172239399606554645/1282757460729528351/2024-09-09_13-37-58_-_Trim.mp4?ex=67e6363b&is=67e4e4bb&hm=a97b9ce449a6056ff338ba865a0952b79250b1b33f0804eccb985ba42f7d35a9&

[runic canyon]

so it's the same as sojourn

[trim narwhal]

hp is nice because it basically makes sojourn ticks do less % of ur hp

especially important on e8 because you take curse dmg if its above a threshold

hp however is also bad because barrier gain is flat but barrier decay is based on max hp

and so you see in that clip it decays so rapidly it basically is negligible since i have 999 steaks

[runic canyon]

ok u didn't need to get a clip lol I understand what ur saying

[trim narwhal]

well, if i dont have a clip, how do u know im not just making it up

[runic canyon]

bc I believe you 😭

[trim narwhal]

mainly this is why you observe barrier gain is incredibly potent in stage 1 / 2 etc, but not quite as strong as you level up

barrier wont just instantly max out later on from balls

[trim narwhal]

stuff like atgs can still trigger bands off disciples or razorwire but well generally i think it doesnt 'matter'

if your repulsion / healing / etc build is strong enough to hit strong sojourn band procs, and also have atgs in it, ur probably in a great spot anyways

sojourn disables item usage but yea u can tincture before you enter, can also enable crowdfunder before you enter

or even throw down a forgive me please + brooches to help barrier gain a little more

has a little antisynergy with like gesture tonic or etc though

[trim narwhal]

but why, im just a rando

even video 'evidence' can be misleading, like when eg people shit on yes chef back then without knowing the proper tech, but well still better than trust me bro

but well hp it has ups and downs. its nice overall imo but not really something i go out of my way for, like nothing near false son

[elfin path]

trying to get the glass artifact (again)

Does getting transcendence solves this issue when i enter the artifact stage?

[livid wedge]

I mean, your shield is considered part of max health so it's reduced

Barrier is great though, from like topaz brooch

[elfin path]

ahh, really thought i can cheese it

[livid wedge]

Nah, that'd be broken

But brooches are worth it because you're most likely gonna reach the barrier cap always

[waxen nova]

Is the effect of considered a favorable or unfavorable outcome?

[daring cloak]

Depends on the situation

It may do good or bad

[livid wedge]

I think they mean for clover

[waxen nova]

Yea

[daring cloak]

Oh clover lmao
Doesnt affect the odds

[slate otter]

is there a console command for spawning a shrine of the mountain?

[dense summit]

theres some bombs dropping when i kill an enemy, what are they? they're quite a lot, and they dont seem to do anything

those gray things

[daring cloak]

Ah thats pots of money

Its just a silly visual effect for when enemies give you a ton of gold

[dense summit]

ah, i see
also, a follow up question, on stage 17 and enemies just.. stopped spawning?

okay, five million boss enemies just spawned all at once, interesting

2 million bucks

[daring cloak]

Seems like the burst director

Sometimes the game will stop spawning enemies for a while to build up spawn credits (kinda like money the game uses to spawn enemies) and then use all those built up credits at once

[dense summit]

ah, i see

i like that i dont really have to attack anymore, frost relic and shrimps are really funny

the only way i was able to die and use one of the pluripotents was that i got caught in a void blast (?) and immediately died, didnt know it did that

[hoary sedge]

yeah every void implosion instantly kills you if you're inside it

unless you're in sojourn bc seeker doesn't give a swag ig

[wintry fjord]

Or using heritic's utility

[daring cloak]

Or viends trespass

[broken shale]

what items are needed to make seeker imortal :3

[daring cloak]

Repulsion armor plates

Thats it
Thats the only item you need

[broken shale]

how many? :3

[daring cloak]

Increases with your level but not that many

[quasi crystal]

2 to Start with imo

[neon drum]

Hey gang, what is the alternate way into the path of the colossus that they added last patch?|| I’m assuming it’s something to do with newt shop?||

[daring cloak]

Yup

There will be 3 mini geodes hidden in 9 possible spots around the bazaar (not inside the bazaar section itself though)

Breaking them all spawns the portal

Good luck searching because some of those spots are devilish

[neon drum]

Alright, thank you🤣🤣. Does it affect voidfields at all?

[daring cloak]

I mean if you enter the green portal you dont enter the null portal and vice versa

[neon drum]

Gotcha, thank you!

[runic canyon]

there's a chart on seeker's page on the ror2 fandom wiki with the amount of armor stacks needed for each level

[lavish jacinth]

they're not necessary but they can help with some of them

[waxen gorge]

Loader...

[quasi crystal]

Loader is the only one that requires you to visit an ambry

You can even do it in the chaos ambry

[broken shale]

Apart from that is it just the normal item picks for seeker or does she benifit from other things?

[primal vector]

You need to lean more into damage items on seeker since she has a lot of healing and barrier but low damage output

[waxen nova]

Do entries I or II of 'The Evisceration of Kur-skan the Heretic' exist in game? The heresy items have entries III-VI but I'm not sure about the first two entries

[quasi crystal]

Unfortunately I don't think so

[waxen nova]

:(

[fallen galleon]

are there any performance mods for this game

[fresh umbra]

Is there some sort of tier list for which items get nerfed or indirectly buffed by certain eclipse difficulties?

(Indirectly buffed being like, ghor’s tome, which increases your income, useful for e6+)

[waxen gorge]

no crossplay between console and pc?

[daring cloak]

Nope, and it will never happen

[quasi crystal]

Is this what you meant?

I missed in e1

[lavish jacinth]

why are perfected and overloading aspects nerfed by e5? Also slug and knurl should be in there too, it does affect health regen

[honest badger]

shield regen is decreased i think

[quasi crystal]

I forgot regen items lol
Aspects were because I forgot wovs icon lol

[lavish jacinth]

no it's not

[quasi crystal]

I added it last minute lazily

[lavish jacinth]

ah lol

[quasi crystal]

Both shield aspects go.into buffed by e3 I could probably remove aegis too it's still working the same

[lavish jacinth]

nah, aegis makes sense since it's reliant on healing

should be on there too actually

[quasi crystal]

Knurl would go into nerfed by e5 buffed by e8 though same with I pearl

I just elected to not add hp items even though they reduce curse gain on e8

[honest badger]

what's the ratio of damage to e8 curse

[trim narwhal]

%hp heals are nerfed further by e8 especially if theyre after u take dmg

eg medkit elixir

if ur including buckler repulsion then teddy opal safer whatever also mitigates curse, same even with infusions and steaks and psg and transcendence and

also delicate watches are pretty hard to lose on e8

[quasi crystal]

yeah

[fresh umbra]

Yes, thanks

[quasi crystal]

you lose watches?

[waxen nova]

Do cleansing pools spawn with active? The wiki is telling me two contradicting things

[lavish jacinth]

they do not

where does the wiki say otherwise?

[waxen nova]

The artifact page mentions that pearls have their own command essence when they appear from a cleansing pool

Is there no way to get pearls in command without some sort of external influence

[daring cloak]

Yeah but that doesnt really matter much

Because recycler still sorta gets affected by command essence

It cant reroll pearls or irradiant pearls because they each have their own essence to themself

[daring cloak]

Although yeah the wiki is lying about actually acquiring the pearls like that

[lavish jacinth]

probably worth fixing for the sake of accuracy

it even has screenshots of the pearl essences for some reason, even though you can never see them in vanilla

[hallow hull]

will we get local coop for pc?

[lavish jacinth]

not likely

it's not impossible but the devs have never said anything about it afaik

[broken shale]

howcome false son and seeker mastery don't get steam achievements?

[daring cloak]

They didnt have the time to add those ig

Adding steam achievements is like the least important thing they'd need to tackle for the dlc

[broken shale]

sad

[broken shale]

can you even get pearls with atrifact of command? :3

[daring cloak]

No

[broken shale]

thats silly

[placid pilot]

is it supposed to be this easy, or beginners luck?

is seekers of the storm rly bad like the steam reviews say?

[steady stone]

the reviews are mostly from the absurdly buggy launch that has been fixed for the most part

but back then we would get a bug report every 3-5 minutes
hence having 3 channels for them

[lavish jacinth]

it's a lot better now, the devs have been reworking it

[placid pilot]

Ah, hopefully it goes on sale then...or they finish reworking it soon...

it's $10 for the dlc on epic games, but I play on steam...

[lavish jacinth]

steam is better, trust me

if you have any interest at all in playing multiplayer, anyway

[placid pilot]

Do i need all DLC for multiplayer, or will it go with host dlc?

[lavish jacinth]

nah, as long as at least one person in the lobby has dlc, everyone can use dlc content except for characters

[mellow crystal]

it'll get dlcs from anyone in the lobby

[placid pilot]

ah, nice

[lavish jacinth]

you can also play prismatic trials if you want to try out the dlc items

[mellow crystal]

also can't get achievements so unfortunately can't unlock characters early if you plan to get the dlc in the future

[lavish jacinth]

trials have every item unlocked including dlc since everyone has to be able to play the same seed, so it's sorta like a free trial of dlc content lol

[mellow crystal]

now that i think about it it kind of is, especially since it's only two stages long lmao

[lavish jacinth]

and fwiw yeah, ror2 isn't that hard compared to some other roguelikes, if you're good at movement and horde shooters. Though you were on medium difficulty tbf

[honest badger]

tbf medium is the balance point of the game

but monsoon is way harder

[cunning jay]

does anyone have link with the math for interactables spawn chance

[lavish jacinth]

none that grant outright immunity, but mithrix can cleanse non-damaging debuffs when he dashes, and scavengers can have

and enemies can get raincoat in any other case where they get items, like void fields

[honest badger]

ive learned that while he doesn't clear rooting, he also seemingly fucking ignored it?

[lavish jacinth]

the wiki has all the info on how spawning works, but I don't think anyone has ever actually calculated spawn chances for interactables, since it's pretty hard to calculate and would be slightly different for every stage https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Directors#Spawning_Interactables

[full apex]

i had a calculator in base game but the way they handled DLC interactables being on/off was a bit weird so i never bothered updating it. it can give rough estimates nowadays but the spawn chances would be higher than youd expect with other stuff in the pool from dlc

without simulating stages and running the averages, calculating a specific chance is just nearly impossible if not just impossible. theres too many factors

[tall cairn]

saw in the patch notes that theres a new alternate way to get to prime meridian, what is it?

[lavish jacinth]

there are 3 geodes hidden in semi-random spots in the bazaar that you can find and break to spawn a green portal

they'll only show up if you're on stage 1 or 2 of the current loop though

[tall cairn]

ok thank you

[sand sparrow]

does renaming items through files still work

[daring cloak]

Dont think so

[muted granite]

Im getting the game tmrw and wanted to ask if it’s playable alone

[mellow crystal]

it is

[daring cloak]

Yeah its mainly designed around singleplayer

[muted granite]

Oh ok ty, I saw the game yesterday on a TikTok and since then I can’t get it out of my mind, it looks so good

[mellow crystal]

it is 🔥

it's a roguelike tho so if you don't like dying then uhhh get used to it

learning process and all

[muted granite]

Oh ok that’s no Problem

Even better thing is I can get it for 6€

It’s on sale rn luckily

[broken shale]

what items should i prioritize on huntress? :3

[urban narwhal]

how do i find sonnars for map logs?

[runic canyon]

wdyt the general strategy to "win" is and is it dependant on the difficulty? like I learned the game thinking I had to prioritize speed over items, at least on monsoon, because the guaranteed lower scaling is better than spending extra time and getting a bad item. but I've had a friend tell me taking your time can be better because even bad items can be turned into printer fuel, but I'm not sure if this strat is specifically better if you plan on looping? since you have a better chance of spawning a good printer. and on the topic of looping, I was wondering if obliterating, if counted as beating the game, is usually considered easier than beating mithrix. I also don't know if strategy is hugely different between rainstorm and monsoon since I tend to play on rainstorm for multiplayer

[runic canyon]

both her primaries are agile, so any dash related items like are good, she has the lowest health so some defensive items are good, and depending on your loadout different items can be more useful.
like if you're running flurry your #1 priority should be because of its special crit interaction, if you're running phase blink you might want to make up for your lack of vertical mobility with or some movement equipment especially if you plan on looking for a newt altar, and if you have ballista proc and total damage items become significantly more powerful, since it's her best way of getting high single hit damage.
is really useful for crowd control as well as of course so it can be nice to make up for her primary not hitting multiple targets, especially if you have ballista which loses some AOE from arrow rain.

I forgot to mention movement items also scale the distance of phase blink, making them even better on her if you run it

[broken shale]

what abt healing/general dr?

or dmg items

[runic canyon]

when I mentioned defensive items I had blocking/dmg reduction, health increasing, and healing items in mind

and as for dmg items she's not particular about specific ones but like I said you'll get the most value of any survivor with crits if you're running flurry, i wouldn't say she specifically prefers certain dmg items compared to other survivors besides that, just remember bands are hard to proc without ballista

[broken shale]

how abt crowbars? :3

[runic canyon]

crowbar is okay for clearing out stage 1-2 enemies with glaive or medium size enemies with ballista, not her favorite item though since most of her dmg comes from low dmg high fire rate hits

her dmg and health is supposed to be low because her in-combat mobility with agile primaries and teleports is really good, so prioritize procs rather than dmg multipliers

[broken shale]

what would be better for dmg (apart from crits then?)

abd are good on her?

[pliant ether]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have more info on the Risk of Rain boardgame kickstarter?

[wide parrot]

It is actually way more important to get items than leave the stage early. Ideally, you should fully loot every stage, leaving with more items than you have minutes

[wide parrot]

No information has been shared past the initial showing

[mellow crystal]

opals are always good unless you're like rex

[runic canyon]

yeah opal's good i'd say, huntress is a character who shouldn't get hit often with her mobility so if you make a mistake and get hit opal is nice and is easy to buy time for it to recharge

safer spaces is similarly good, though i prefer tougher times on its own unless i'm running both opal and safer spaces since they make time for each other to recharge

[lavish jacinth]

Going for items is always better, a good rule of thumb is to full-clear the stage and try to leave with more items than minutes. You can't outrun the timer no matter how fast you go, and items are how you get stronger.
And the fewer items you get, the more you're relying on rng for those items to actually be good.

Plus, difficulty increases with stage count as well as time, so you really want to make the most of every stage.

[broken shale]

is void feind kinda bad, whenever i watch/play with a friend who mains them, they spend most of the game spectating, is that just a skill issue, or is veind meh

[trim lynx]

viend is good

[lavish jacinth]

It's a skill issue, viend is very strong

[broken shale]

ah lmao

[lavish jacinth]

Also yeah, obliterating is easier on average imo, but mithrix is also pretty easy if you know what you're doing

[broken shale]

i always obliterate since i just don't enjoy mithrix

apart from if im playing rg

[broken shale]

how does healing even work on them?

[urban narwhal]

is it possible for radar tower to simply not spawn?

im gonna try to search for em with the scanner equipment

[lavish jacinth]

For every % of health he heals, his corruption meter gets lowered by the same amount.
He gets most of the healing he needs from his uncorrupt special, it's a free 25% heal that can be spammed and literally recharges by taking damage.
He generally wants to avoid healing items that are hard to control like medkit or wungus. Slug is good tho since regen doesn't affect corruption, and harvesters scythe works pretty well since he gains 2% corruption when he lands a crit, which outweighs the healing from scythe

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, it's random

[broken shale]

ah alr, will send this to them, what items work best on veind? (and any little tech)

[lavish jacinth]

Having command and sacrifice helps a bit though, removing chests and printers means you get more of everything else

[urban narwhal]

oh, ye im playing on sacrifice

[lavish jacinth]

he's a pretty good all rounder but he leans towards proc items, and since he doesn't really need healing you can afford to go all in on damage and speed. Crit items are especially good because crits give corruption, with high crit chance you can stay corrupt almost permanently as long as you keep attacking.
In his uncorrupt form, use his special every so often to manage corruption, it's good to hover at around 75% so you always have the option to heal or quickly go corrupt when needed.

In corrupt form he also gets 100 armor (50% damage resistance) so you can afford to play really aggressively

[broken shale]

does corruption also fill up without anything over time?

since i never really see them take crit items

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it gradually fills up on its own

[broken shale]

ah

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, and some of the logs are bugged and unobtainable atm https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1316650891801264178

[broken shale]

in terms of specific items, whats good?

[urban narwhal]

wait what-

waould the dlcspawnpool fix help with this?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[urban narwhal]

oh

nice

[lavish jacinth]

there isn't anything super specific to him other than crits and scythe like I mentioned (don't take too many scythes though, one is enough). Proc items are strong ofc, so anything with an on-hit effect like tritip, sticky bomb, atg, etc.. and attack speed stuff. He's got a decently strong burst and band proc with his secondary so crowbars and bands can be good too, but if someone else is playing a better burster like railgunner or loader, they should be taking those items instead.
Oh yeah, and every void item he gets increases his minimum corruption by 2%, so he can become corrupt even faster. are good ones for him to stack

[urban narwhal]

also is this normal for gilded coast to spawn chests with sacrifice on?

[broken shale]

will send this to them, also, is it worth taking backup mags on railgunner ever?

[daring cloak]

Not really until very high attack speed

Its usually faster and more damaging to unscope and use perfect reloads in between shots

[urban narwhal]

i never had gold statues, until now i got 2 in row. is there some sort of a price cap you have to get to to get one?

i got them at stage 24 and 25

[lavish jacinth]

not even then honestly

only the first shot gets the perfect reload bonus

[lavish jacinth]

nah, you can get them on any stage except the first, they're just rare

[lavish jacinth]

rng did a funny

[urban narwhal]

oh

also is teh radar spawn still random with the dlcspawnfix

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's never guaranteed

[urban narwhal]

oh alright

[broken shale]

is there really any reason to use laser burst?

laser of the father just seems so much better

[daring cloak]

Of course

Using laser burst restocks 30% of your lunar spikes and growth lets you have more stocks of laser burst

And since its instant, you can use it to its full potential without the lunar ruin debuff on enemies disappearing unlike laser of the father

Its less value on its own but enables FAR higher lunar ruin stacking which is effectively a huge damage boost to all your damage

Imo its better than laser of the father if you get good growth going

Even though it doesnt pierce like the description says and cant crit

[broken shale]

i feel laser of the father regens more spikes than burst but idk

[runic canyon]

who is essence of heresy good on

[daring cloak]

Maybe thats the case but the important part is that laser burst is able to do it without taking so long that the debuff disappears

Meaning you can keep applying more and more lunar ruin at a rapid rate

[lavish jacinth]

Commando is the big one, but bandit and captain can make use of it as well, mainly lategame when their specials start to fall off

[trim narwhal]

it depends

laser is flat spikes, great earlygame and etc

if you have a lot of spikes though eg looping or stone flux, burst is %spikes so you get a ton back

mostly i prefer laser because its a lot stronger before you get a lot of growth going. burst can be competitive and even better depending on build, but i think usually in those cases, laser would be more than enough to win anyways. burst is kinda 'win more' in that regard

[daring cloak]

You... cant shorten either one to laser because both are called laser

[dusky raven]

What's the proc co on Soul Spiral?

[steady stone]

1.0

[dusky raven]

woah

thats a lot for how fast they hit

[broken shale]

i need to do cheff mastery lmao, what items should i take on him (ill end up doing this with command or smth)

[fresh umbra]

If 2 survivors have different base damage stats but both have an attack that does “100% damage,” does the survivor with the higher base damage do more damage with that attack? (Assuming the attacks are otherwise identical)

[daring cloak]

Yes because the attack will deal 100% of the base damage value

[fresh umbra]

Is base damage in any way indicated in game

[lavish jacinth]

only in the survivors' logbook

[runic canyon]

logbook has stats yeah

[daring cloak]

Yeah the game is not keen on giving you detailed information anywhere aside from logs

[runic canyon]

p sure it's proc coefficients that are not explained in-game

[lavish jacinth]

but for most survivors base damage is 12, and it always scales by 20% of that value per level

[runic canyon]

isn't it different for mul-t

[steady stone]

11 (+2.2 per level)

but most are indeed 12 +2.4, like mando, huntress, loader

[runic canyon]

oh I misremembered it was false son

cus he has a stats gimmick

[steady stone]

13 (+2 per level)

[runic canyon]

yeah I have it pulled up I'm just saying it's an exception to the 20% thing

[lavish jacinth]

11(+2.2)
14(+2.8), turrets have 16(+3.2) per level
15(+3)
18(+3.6)
13(+2)
everyone else is 12(+2.4)

[daring cloak]

Wait why are you still me after changing back pfps 😭

[steady stone]

mm, thanks
i didnt wanna search every wiki page lol

[lavish jacinth]

it actually just shows you if you hover over their name lol

[fresh umbra]

This multiplier is applied to the character's base damage plus their level's damage, resulting in the character's damage.
Does this mean a survivor with a lower base damage gets more of a benefit from damage-increasing items?

[runic canyon]

there's a stats chart in the "survivors" page

[lavish jacinth]

no, because it's all multiplicative

[runic canyon]

forgive the mobile ss

[lavish jacinth]

ew fandom

[fresh umbra]

Wait i misread applied as added, whoops

[steady stone]

im also curious what "mass" is on the right

acrid having 300

[lavish jacinth]

knockback resistance, basically

[steady stone]

makes sense why acrid can cling to enemies then

[fresh umbra]

Does that also mean acrid can push pots with more force

[wintry fjord]

Acrid is one big boi

[lavish jacinth]

maybe? I don't think it works like that but I don't really know

[hoary sedge]

see I know thats what it's actually saying but I like the implication that huntress and false son weigh the same more

[runic canyon]

has everything been migrated to wiki?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[runic canyon]

I've used wikigg for DBD since it also migrated over there but didn't know ror2 did as well

that's cool. though I have an industrial adblocker so fandom didn't bother me that much

[quasi crystal]

From messing with umbrals stats i think I learned it effects air control too

[full apex]

considering they are being updated by different people, i imagine they are desynced on some things

[broken shale]

im kinda curious, why do so many people take large amounts of with atrifact of command?

[fallen bridge]

you can hit up bazaar every stage and just get infinite reds ...

[lavish jacinth]

for every 5 stacks you can get a free red in the bazaar between every stage

[broken shale]

ah

i see now :3

ig artifact of command makes sale stars also very good

[honest badger]

other command goodie is sonorous

budget sacrifice

[broken shale]

whats sonourous again :3

[honest badger]

white item from every boss you kill

[broken shale]

oh okii

[honest badger]

also some elites you kill

[broken shale]

is there any other random command sillynes?

[honest badger]

hellfire tincture + gestures + razorwire + planula

[broken shale]

would stacking a very large amount of + and then be silly?

[broken shale]

how would that work? :3

[fallen bridge]

helfire procs razorwire super quickly & planula reheals you so you have great regen

[broken shale]

oh lmao

[fallen bridge]

another fun thing to do on top of that build is to get an aegis and voidsent ... i think you can see why this would be silly

[broken shale]

with 44 gestures you get 100% cdr right?

[fallen bridge]

not exactly, no

you can never technically achieve 100% cdr but you effectively can if the cd is less than the duration of the equipment buff

[lavish jacinth]

you actually can get 100% reduction with equipment

or well, you can get the cooldown to 1 frame

[broken shale]

would be fun on false son

[fallen bridge]

in my opinion every build is fun on false son

[lavish jacinth]

that particular build would also work on anyone

[honest badger]

is useless witb

[lavish jacinth]

it's not useless, it's just functionally identical

[honest badger]

it never gains more charges

[lavish jacinth]

it gives 15% cdr per stack too

[honest badger]

?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[daring cloak]

Yes

[honest badger]

oh neat

[fallen bridge]

the build would actually work best on heretic and acrid since they have the two highest damage values

[daring cloak]

Why else do you think you need a gesture and 3 more gestures or fuel cells for perma tonic

[honest badger]

i have no idea what you're quoting, ive never heard that sentence in my life

[daring cloak]

Theres no way youve never heard of perma tonic

[honest badger]

i know you can get it with gestures but ive never heard that quote no

[daring cloak]

Its not a quote as much as it is a build

[honest badger]

well the "or fuel cells" thing would be weird to ask if it wasn't specifically stated somewhere, since i didnt know that beforehand

[daring cloak]

And since fuel cells are generally less rare than gestures, perma tonic is most often done with a gesture and 3 fuel cells

Or a mix of gestures and fuel cells

[lavish jacinth]

gesture is technically less rare since you can reroll the shop for it, but fuel cells are free

[broken shale]

if i was playing command, what items should i even take on seeker

[broken shale]

perma tonic seems fun

[honest badger]

repulsion armor plates and planulas

[daring cloak]

Repulsion armor plates

[fallen bridge]

raps, planula, razorwire

[honest badger]

maybe not planula since healing is disabled after 10secs

[daring cloak]

Yeah idk why planula is recommended so much

Its effectively just a few more raps that lose value over time

[lavish jacinth]

people probably forget that sojourn reduces healing lol

[fallen bridge]

it's the only use for a terrible yellow

[honest badger]

i know where you live

[daring cloak]

[fallen bridge]

wait please tell me i forgot

[broken shale]

seekers dmg does feel lacking, what do people normally take to help with that?

[honest badger]

her damage is entirely from sojourn

and a bit from m2

[fallen bridge]

pretty much just raps

[lavish jacinth]

the orbs do a lot

you don't want just raps lol

[daring cloak]

Fully amped meditate also deals quite a bit of damage if youre able to get into a situation where you can safely use it near enemies

[lavish jacinth]

you need like 2-3 to start out with and then add one every so often whenever you can't tank sojourn anymore

[fallen bridge]

raps are definitely not the only source of seeker damage but it's just so fun to go all into a rap printer stage 5 and take no damage ever (this is bad advice don't do this)

[broken shale]

but yeah, artifact of command becomes super boring in runs where it ends up like this (also did i take the right stuff for huntress) oh, ignore the bungus i started stealing it infront of the engi lmao

[daring cloak]

Seeing scope and not behemoth in a command run hurts my soul

[broken shale]

this is before i knew tbf

[broken shale]

actually, is it still better than scope even when not on rg?

[lavish jacinth]

could use more variety but the items you picked were generally fine besides maybe the scope

[daring cloak]

Yes because on every survivor the crit damage stat is 200% by default

[lavish jacinth]

scope is effectively a only 50% damage upgrade because you're going from 200%->300% crit damage (same reason lensmakers suck on railgunner) and that's assuming you're getting guaranteed crits.
Behemoth is just a straight 60% increase to most of your damage

[broken shale]

ohhhh, i understand how that works now, i thought fsr on railgunner it just got halved

ty for the great explanation

[lavish jacinth]

scope's only real advantage is that it stacks better, and it works better with
(bands can crit but can't proc behemoth, and behemoth often doesn't benefit from crowbar because it's a secondary damage source- by the time the explosion deals damage, the enemy is already below 90%)

[broken shale]

in terms of variety what else is good for huntress?, i assume wungus would've been nice

[honest badger]

who would win or
||the latter wins||

proc stuff is good on her alt m1

i did not mean to say m2

[broken shale]

yeh, i use all alts on her

[daring cloak]

Alt m1?

[honest badger]

flurry

[daring cloak]

Oh what when did we start talking about huntress

[honest badger]

here

[broken shale]

real

[fallen bridge]

in general, balancing out drinks w/ hooves makes speed much more manageable
polylute and plasma shrimp are good on most survivors so those are always great to take in command (full crit alt m1 huntress especially)
huntress in particular is great at dodging so you really don't need very much healing or dmg reduction, just lots of dmg and speed items

backup mag is also really nice on huntress since the m2 does great aoe

[honest badger]

also is peak if you run main util

[lavish jacinth]

I've probably said it before but you don't really need to worry about getting super specific items, the key is always to mix stuff, especially when it comes to procs.
So like just to name a few.

Like in your case, you would've gotten better damage by having 8 polylutes and 8 plasma shrimps, instead of 16 polylutes, because the shrimp could proc off of the polylutes and effectively buff their damage as well as your own.
More varied items = more ways that items can multiply each other

[fallen bridge]

^ (this is the biggest mistake folks make when playing command, please take note of this)

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[broken shale]

yeah, would've gotten shrimps, but was playing with friends so let the goober who would get more value out of it take it

[lavish jacinth]

that's why I often recommend not playing command if you want to improve and learn about the game, because getting random items forces you to try different combinations and learn how items interact with each other

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, you could've both had it, you were playing with command lol

[broken shale]

yeah, ig thats a issue with command

[broken shale]

game was mean in terms of void zones :(

[broken shale]

but tysm for the advice :3

how does sticky bomb stacking actually work?

[lavish jacinth]

fair, tho you could've also taken normal atgs. Polylute proccing off of an atg is gonna put out a ton of damage

[lavish jacinth]

+5% chance per stack, so they cap at 20

technically you can go higher if you have an attack with a lower proc coefficient, but 20 is still plenty

[broken shale]

i think i somehow forgot normal atgs existed lmao

[fallen bridge]

by the way, unlock if you haven't done so already
it is arguably one of the most consequential items in crazy command runs (and sometimes in normal runs too)

[broken shale]

yeh, i think im only missing , how does clover actually work?

[fallen bridge]

it rolls all probability-based effects again and takes the positive outcome from the total rolls

so if you have one clover and you have a 50% chance to proc something at base luck, you roll this 50% twice

[broken shale]

oh thats silly

[lavish jacinth]

should be noted that it does not affect

[broken shale]

i heard someone somewhere saying it effects bungus somehow

not sure if this is true

[fallen bridge]

what 😭

[broken shale]

idk lmao :3

[lavish jacinth]

yeah bungus doesn't have any random elements, there's nothing for clover to affect

it also doesn't affect stuff like item rarity or chance shrines, it's mainly just effects from items. Although it does increase the chance for enemies to drop a logbook or elite aspect

[broken shale]

would it be normally worth it to just pick up a chance doll or smth on command?

[lavish jacinth]

works the opposite way btw, instead of rerolling failed procs, it rerolls successful ones- so an item basically has to succeed twice in a row in order to work with purity. Clover and purity also cancel each other out since it's +1 and -1 luck respectively

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, probably

it probably wouldn't be super impactful but there wouldn't be any harm in it, it's command so you can kinda do whatever lol

[broken shale]

oki

im a little confused when to ever take

[lavish jacinth]

pretty rarely, it's kinda bad lol

[fallen bridge]

never ‼️ unless you don't have bands stage 5 and are fighting mithrix

[lavish jacinth]

it can be sorta silly if you're using for a zero-cooldown band build, but even then it's basically a meme strat

[broken shale]

true ig

blast shower reseting band cooldowns is weird

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the cooldown for them is technically considered a debuff

I think it was a sort of accidental feature lol

[broken shale]

how abt ?

[fallen bridge]

really depends, if you're bandit then you almost always take it but i'm not a huge fan of it otherwise

[lavish jacinth]

in general I think they're pretty weak, but they can get better when looping, mainly as a safety net in case your damage sucks

[fallen bridge]

it can help if you're really struggling w/ damage but mostly it's never worth sacrificing crit for

[brave cedar]

Anyone got any tips for monsoon? I’m having a hard time and I want to unlock the monsoon skins on survivors

[lavish jacinth]

biggest tip would be to full-clear every stage as efficiently as you can

[fallen bridge]

make sure to full loot every stage, prioritize mvmt and dmg, and utilize scrappers/printers (aka item macro)

[brave cedar]

Really?? Everyone on YouTube says to be really really fast on stages

[fallen bridge]

never be afraid to spend >10min on stages if you are looting !! time matters less than items

[lavish jacinth]

a good rule of thumb is to loot everything and try to leave with more items than minutes, but it's okay to spend a little extra time using printers and scrappers- the important thing is that you're spending time doing something that'll make you stronger overall

[lavish jacinth]

how old are the videos you're watching? Because rushing (or specifically the 5-minute rule) used to be meta, but it was sort of a holdover from risk of rain 1 that stuck around for a little longer than it should have

[brave cedar]

I’m really glad I asked bc I definitely wasn’t doing that!

[quasi crystal]

People on YouTube also roll into stage 3 at 60 minutes with with no movement keys bound and win

[fallen bridge]

this is, to put it bluntly, a myth (though that doesn't mean you shouldn't hurry)

[lavish jacinth]

but full looting is better for a lot of reasons, a big one being that difficulty increases based on stage count as well as time, so you really wanna make the most of every stage

[brave cedar]

Do you have any tips on how to find the teleporter on stage 3 scorched acres? I really struggle finding it and it takes a lot of time

[lavish jacinth]

look for a cloud of orange particles in the air (or blue if you're on stage 5) and follow them, they'll lead you to the teleporter

[brave cedar]

What kind of items should I focus on then? I have artifact of command, so I can choose if I want

[brave cedar]

I try that already but it’s really hard on scorched acres

[lavish jacinth]

there's also a setting that makes them easier to spot, under that umbrella settings thing on the first page.
(While you're at it you should turn on inspect items too, it's a huge help when you're still learning what stuff does)

[brave cedar]

Is inspect items in settings? I already know what a lot of stuff does, but not everything lol

[fallen bridge]

just going to post this ... it is great advice

[lavish jacinth]

As a rule, Damage > Speed > Healing/defense, and also this #ror2-game-questions message

[lavish jacinth]

light theme jumpscare

[brave cedar]

That’s definitely true and fair, but I’ve played the game plenty without command, and just for the sake of getting the monsoon skins I’m open to whatever route is faster to get them

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah, items in ror2 are generally designed around randomness, so the "a bit of everything" approach is usually best, especially for damage

[fallen bridge]

i played command for my first ≈300 hrs in this game and that time was almost wasted in terms of learning and fun

[brave cedar]

Also is it better to beat Mithrix or obliterate to get the skins?

[lavish jacinth]

obliterating is easier imo, at least until you're confident with the mithrix fight, then they're pretty equal

[brave cedar]

I didn’t even know artifacts existed until I had over 100 hours in the game lol 😂

[lavish jacinth]

artifacts didn't exist at all for my first 100 hours or so

[brave cedar]

Dang, really??

[steady stone]

fax was the brother's like 6th creation

[fallen bridge]

checks out, you wouldn't have seen the artifact portal in sky meadows if you weren't full looting

[lavish jacinth]

been playing since early access lol

[brave cedar]

There was some times I saw it but was confused by it and didn’t know what to do obviously lol 😂

Any tips on beating prismatic trial? I need to beat one to get an item but it just seems really really hard. (It may seem extra difficult since I don’t have the seeker dlc and aren’t used to a few of those stages)

[broken shale]

light mode jusmpscare at 2am

[broken shale]

i find the mithrix fight so unfun fsr, idek why

[fallen bridge]

anyway if you're trying to grind monsoon comps, you probably want to also take artifact of glass, sac, and swarms

[broken shale]

glass?

[brave cedar]

I can definitely try that

Any tips on beating prismatic trial? I need to beat one to get an item but it just seems really really hard. (It may seem extra difficult since I don’t have the seeker dlc and aren’t used to a few of those stages)

[fallen bridge]

yes.

[broken shale]

guh

[fallen bridge]

if you're trying to go quickly, why not multiply your dmg by 5x ...

[lavish jacinth]

the seed changes every 3 days so you can just wait for an easier one if you want, but #prismatic-trials can help you out, check the pins for guides.
There's an absolute madlad named Cabbage who has been doing guides for the merc achievement for no-hitting* for every single seed for years, and they'll show a really good route for the seed. And obviously you don't have to no-hit if you're just going for but it'll still probably help

||*you can take a hit but only if it's absorbed by barrier and not your actual health||

[brave cedar]

Ok! Thanks!! I was definitely wondering about merc too so this really helped

[broken shale]

yeah this is really true, i play without command solo, but i feel sometimes im not sure what to scrap, (if the game ever decides to spawn a scrapper lmao)

[fallen bridge]

merc is pretty tricky, make sure you're familiar w/ expose tech (it makes the achievement much easier ,,,)

[brave cedar]

I’ll do some research on it and play around with him. I’m trying to get all the unlockable stuff for this game lol

[lavish jacinth]

wdym link not allowed you stupid robot it's literally pinned

ok well I was gonna link a merc guide, it's in the pins if you scroll down a bit, but apparently it's illegal

it's a little old but almost everything in it still works, except for the tech where you slam flying enemies into walls to instakill them

[hard cobalt]

hey does anyone know if ror2 is gonna be crossplay soon?

[lavish jacinth]

not likely

[hard cobalt]

aw

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's where it pays to try stuff out and be familiar with all the items, because it's always a little situational and often comes down to intuition, knowing whether or not an item is gonna be more useful as scrap than it is by itself.
A couple of tips though

1. Think about how long an item is gonna be useful. For example are great early but pretty much useless by stage 5 when enemies are dropping tons of gold. It may be worth it to scrap them earlier than that, since you're not guaranteed a scrapper.
2. AoE items like are awesome but useless against mithrix, if you plan to fight him you should scrap them on stage 5 if you can, after charging the teleporter. Or try to find so your on-kills can still work.
3. It's good to try to get white and green scrap in increments of 3 and 5 respectively, for the sake of using lunar cauldrons.
4. can usually go straight in the trash, outside of obvious synergies like steak/knurl on false son. Knurl may be worth keeping since boss printers are so rare, but if I've got other boss items that I really wanna keep, it's absolutely getting yeeted just in case

[umbral reef]

what am I missing here

[lavish jacinth]

red scrap

[wintry fjord]

You mean agis?

[steady stone]

Cryo spear also has pierce for groups, but a lot of it comes down to angle in experience
Spear will do better from ground level towards a group, while a nano bomb from above
nano bomb also has sparks that fly out similar to for spread out hordes
Spear can also go through terrain

I find spear best to kill handfuls of mediums like stone golems with the freeze threshold, while nano either for one large enemy using a kjaros, or a group of smalls

[hallow hull]

what survior should i play?

[wintry fjord]

Bandit

[quasi crystal]

any tips for playing melee-type survivors? having a tough time with them

[honest badger]

none of them really play similarly enough to give general tips like that. bonus crystals and movement items tend to be really good

[quasi crystal]

oh thanks, sorry for the vague question lol

[waxen nova]

Learn their melee ranges first since overestimating can lead to you missing

• is pretty tanky and mobile and has great burst damage while also being immune to fall damage, which makes her good for starting out how to play melee characters (at least I think)
• best shines when performing combos through his skills and unique debuff expose. Learning what skills you can best combo with can help. His alternate skills are also pretty easy to unlock which makes experimenting easier
• is a nice mix of melee and range, but the poison you pick can alter its playstyle. I use blight which favors a more aggressive playstyle and I find it to my liking. Its unique regenerative buff also helps support this playstyle since you can quickly heal back in case you ever take hits
• I have not played enough so I'm not too sure how to explain how he plays, but health increasing items like boosts his kit through his growth mechanic, which is worth investing in during runs

[plucky cobalt]

whats good on acrid? none of the usual stuff like crit, bleed etc seems good on him due to his DOT effects

[honest badger]

bleed is definitely still good, so is burning

damaging debuffs will kill enemies for you

noxious thorn is very good

[quasi crystal]

thank you very much!

[mellow crystal]

false son is definitely the closest to true melee compared to the other survivors, since he doesn't have loader's piercing punch or merc's dash spam, nor does he have acrid's extremely spammable spit

he's mostly just slamming small enemies to death and softening up large enemies with lunar ruin before deleting them with the slam or laser burst
laser of the father does allow you to deal with groups of smaller flying enemies more easily, while laser burst scales better with growth and allows you to constantly keep lunar ruin up since it's instant and replenishes lunar spikes

[clear whale]

whats the best items to get as sawnail powermode mult

[mellow crystal]

if your saw is on m2 then definitely luminous shot

[lavish jacinth]

proc items, especially bleed

[mellow crystal]

aside from that and proc items like

[lavish jacinth]

if they're doing sawnail properly then nailgun is gonna be m2

[loud lynx]

How do I get pocket icbm

[lavish jacinth]

Buy survivors of the void

[loud lynx]

D:

[trim narwhal]

moreso rebar or scrap that can abuse lumisaw

unless carpal tunnel saw gaming

its on every activation of saw, u dont get it for holding saw down

[clear whale]

my saw is on m1

[mellow crystal]

weird i could've sworn it worked held down

[clear whale]

m2 is for nail (perfect accuracy nails)

[clear whale]

i am also looking for both survivabilty items

[analog brook]

Lunar pods can spawn with sacrifice on right??

[quasi crystal]

I wanna say no except for the ones on the moon

And bazaar pods

[acoustic acorn]

Yes
So do void chests

So drones and coun pods

And halcyonite
And guaranteed chests on gold stage

[quasi crystal]

I've never seen a lunar pod that wasn't guaranteed to spawn with sacrifice on.

[marble magnet]

Do Lumerians gain the item you give them as a collective? Or is it one person Lumerian? (Artifact of devotion)

[broken shale]

How worth it is infusion on false son compared to other options?

[broken shale]

Aegis? :(

[daring cloak]

Its a little complicated. The lemurian you gave the item to will actually HAVE the item but all lemurians receive its effect

So say you have 5 lemurians and give another lemurian headstompers

All lemurians will get the effects until the lemurian with the headstompers dies

[marble magnet]

I see

Thank you :3

I'm having trouble finding Lumerian eggs lmao even though I managed to get 4 on first stage

Maybe it's sacrifice Ib play? Idk

[mellow crystal]

growth is growth

[broken shale]

Wertus, any advice on unlocking diablo strike?

[broken shale]

True ig

[daring cloak]

Go fast, more items and higher enemy level make it harder to precisely chip away at mithrix' health in phase 4 to set up for the kill

[broken shale]

Im mostly worried abt missing the beacons tbh

[daring cloak]

Getting revived will let you use your 2 beacons again and lysate cells let you use more of your primary beacon

[marble magnet]

Was I just ublocuky that I couldn't find any eggs

I died due to all my elders dying and the fact that the Lumerians couldn't do anything

[daring cloak]

Youre best off actually sending the beacon down right as mithrix goes in for that ground punch that keeps him stationary for a while

[broken shale]

Lystate cells give you more beacons? :0

[daring cloak]

Specifically the beacon you use by pressing the primary

[mellow crystal]

the primary one yea
doesn't update until the stage after you get one tho

[daring cloak]

Also keep in mind that if you call down a third beacon, the oldest beacon will get destroyed so you can only have 2 active at once

[broken shale]

Oh oki, more shock beacons then :3

Ig this kinda needs atrifact of command

[broken shale]

was thinking abt this, so would scope be a bit better on rg with a bunch of crowbars?

[broken shale]

oh also you, what reds best on huntress?

[daring cloak]

Idk I dont play huntress often

[livid wedge]

Other than the red items generally good on everyone, I'd say runic lens is generally good on her and is nice because since she autoaims, you don't have to worry about the hook yanking enemies away from your attacks

[dusky hill]

does clover affect the sonorous whispers?

[clear whale]

I am having this issue

Multiplayer only: Mithrix's attack appears to be "frozen"

It lags the stage my alot during the escape sequence (shown above)

Any fix?

[clear whale]

Thingies like pizza cutter, ground spike, etc

Oh nvm I didnt see #ror2-tech-support

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, scope is good on railgunner

[broken shale]

better than behemoth with crowbars? :3

[lavish jacinth]

I'd say so, yeah. Behemoth technically has a slightly bigger damage bonus, but it doesn't synergize with crowbars or bands like scope does

[runic canyon]

is there any reason i wouldn't want multiple stacks of longstanding solitude rather than just one in a single-player run

[wintry fjord]

Does despardo give 10% damage to everything or just despardo

[runic canyon]

only itself

[wintry fjord]

Shucks

[runic canyon]

it's strong. over the course of the stage it becomes a ridiculously high-damage single hit proc, so total damage effects it triggers become enormous

[wintry fjord]

But half the time I'm so powerful I accidentally kill things before I can desperado it

[runic canyon]

what difficulty

[wintry fjord]

Monsoon

It is looping tho

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that tends to happen

On loops it can be worth it to swap desperado for essence of heresy

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think so, although the wiki says you can only get up to 3 stacks of the free item buff per level, so it basically caps at 3

[wintry fjord]

What does essence do?

[lavish jacinth]

replaces your special skill with this

[wintry fjord]

Damn

That seems really strong

[lavish jacinth]

depends on survivor but yeah, it can be

[wintry fjord]

But I don't think I'd be able to use it still, my presence kills things

[lavish jacinth]

it's good if you have a high proc rate on your primary and aren't using your special skill much. Really good on commando

[lavish jacinth]

if you're at that point then yeah, it probably doesn't matter

[waxen nova]

do attack speed modifiers affect how long it takes for captain's utility and special to drop

[lavish jacinth]

no

[waxen nova]

:(

[loud lynx]

How do I get to void fields

[lavish jacinth]

go to the bazaar and jump backwards off the starting platform, there's a cave down below with a portal to void fields

[loud lynx]

How the heck are you supposed to figure that out

[wintry fjord]

If ur playing eclipse or frailty make sure you have fall damage cancel

[mellow crystal]

curiosity

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's not that hard to find, just explore a little

[broken shale]

does fs slam not have 3.0 proc when in the air?

[lavish jacinth]

it's only 1.0 in the air, but the radius scales with height

[mellow crystal]

i always wondered if "1.0 proc coefficient on the airborne version" meant the club hitbox during the midair slam, or the actual slam if initiated midair

[lavish jacinth]

it's the actual slam, I don't think the club itself even has a hitbox while slamming

[mellow crystal]

damn