ror2-game-questions

[daring cloak]

Its decent money gain

[honest badger]

normally i scrap fuel cell too but it's actually really good with your equipment

[dense summit]

i feel like i might have been valuing some items too much

[primal vector]

I have to disagree here. That happens precisely by disregarding too many defensive items. Infusion is good

[honest badger]

there are way better defensive items than infusion though

[dense summit]

i also have three healing drones and an equipment drone which i slapped the healing effigy thing onto it idk the name

[daring cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-ro-r-ro-r2-item-gif-25584819

[honest badger]

like RAPs are better than max health when it comes to scaling damage

[daring cloak]

Infusion is ass

[primal vector]

Some items have use cases. Loader is less item dependent that most survivors

[daring cloak]

You cannot afford to get hit in this game

Infusion will work for the first couple stages but you wanna set up for the later stages or youll get outscaled

[dense summit]

so, infusion should go? shouldn't i scrap lepton with the amount of healing i got? and dump both into wisps?

[honest badger]

pfft you use items? skill issue

i play on eclipse 8 itemless and ive almost beaten the first stage for the first time 😎

[primal vector]

Agree on the lepton. That is a good assessment in this situation

[honest badger]

lepton is decent but i always scrap it

[dense summit]

well, lets hope i dont choke stage 5, i'll try to do a loop for like the third time, is 40 minutes entering stage 5 horrendous?

[honest badger]

nah that's pretty normal

you should be full clearing stages

[dense summit]

yeah that's what ive been doing so far

[daring cloak]

Good because thats the optimal way to progress through stages

[honest badger]

stage count matters way more for difficulty than time does

[dense summit]

holy shit i one shot elites

[honest badger]

each stage is like a 15% increase i think

[dense summit]

i love the thunder item i justr look at something and it dies now

[honest badger]

what item?

oh capacitor

[dense summit]

yeah, i have 2 fuel charges and with the amount of crowbars and wisps and bands i have its really funyn

another fuel

https://tenor.com/view/zeus-and-then-along-came-zeus-lightning-bolt-gif-22424388

me rn

i ONE SHOT THE FUCKING BOSS

and another BAND

alright, i really need some tips for looping since last time i tried this it went horribly, what're some things i should focus on, and do i have enough shit for now?

[honest badger]

Don't get cocky. Avoid malachite elites and be careful around scavengers. You will die.

[dense summit]

neat

i cannot find the portal god fucking damn it

fun

[wide parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[dense summit]

i got triple freezed and that was it

[agile dragon]

Im trying to get chefs alt ability but i cant get enough bison to spawn, im trying to use artifact of kin now but havent managed to roll bison once even with sotv disabled

[wide parrot]

It’s better to just go to rallypoint and wait it out

[daring cloak]

I got bisons with kin rather quickly on verdant

[agile dragon]

Is there a way bar the bazaar to guarantee which maps u get?

[hoary sedge]

you can't control what shows up in the dream altars no

[lavish jacinth]

Probably easier to not use kin and just restart until you get shattered abodes, that's how I did it

[quasi crystal]

Do it in monsoon too bisons cost a little more than lems and wisps thus waiting for the director will suck less on monsoon

[steady stone]

dissonance kin is how I got it, with a bison only on roost

[trim narwhal]

i agree, hp / armor / etc is kinda underrated, especially on eclipse. softening how much e8 chips away at you is quite nice

if youre looping it kinda falls behind outside some builds, malachite dmg etc will overpower most items

but straight to mithrix, its not bad

mostly steak / infusion to a lesser extent i think kinda fall behind efficacy of psg and buckler etc, but also these things are multiplicative, infusion raises hp which is amped by psg which is amped further by armor etc

depends on character as well, an infusion is a lot of %hp gain on huntress, less so on mult

[primal vector]

That's the thing, HP and healing items synergize quite strongly. More HP means more shield and more % healing and armor means more effective HP

[ocean knoll]

Does anybody know where the game's stock sound effects came from?

[unborn ore]

Is it normal to be underleveled in the late game? Like i was lvl 16 and the difficulty was lvl 25

[steady stone]

Yeah, and items scale way better anyway

Enemies can get to lvl 99 pretty fast even, but you would need the int limit of exp to hit lvl 94

[unborn ore]

Ah i see, thank you 👀

[leaden field]

yeah levels don't scale the way you would think

You will rarely go past level 50 on any run, while enemies hit level 99 fairly quick

your level only effects your base damage, base regen, and base health

items are significantly more important than level

[honest badger]

really? i almost always reach level 99

[leaden field]

to be completely honest I haven't looped in a hot minute maybe im forgetting

I feel like I rarely rembered going past 50

but it's been a while since ive done a long loop

[ocean knoll]

you can't even go that high

[honest badger]

whuh- that's the max

am i crazy

[ocean knoll]

and I doubt you got to 50 without Longstanding Solitude

[ocean knoll]

The max for the enemies maybe, the player max is 94

[honest badger]

no?

[ocean knoll]

yes?

[leaden field]

I mean I'd think its doable with like a stage 20-25 loop

but its been long enough that now im questioning everything I know about the level system lol

[ocean knoll]

most of the time it feels like the soft cap is somewhere around 27

27-28

Solitude breaks this soft cap very easily

[lavish jacinth]

it is literally impossible to get player level 99 without longstanding solitude

[honest badger]

okay fandom does say the cap is 94 but i strongly remember consistently getting to 99

[ocean knoll]

it is literally impossible to get player level 99 without longstanding solitude

[lavish jacinth]

also true

[honest badger]

and ive never picked up solitude because i despise it

[lavish jacinth]

then there's absolutely no way you would have ever gotten level 99

except maybe with mods

[honest badger]

i could just be crazy but idk what id be thinking of

[quasi crystal]

I get to 99 in 20 mins by stage 15

[honest badger]

man you are not at stage 15 by 20 mins

[lavish jacinth]

we're talking about player level, not enemy level

[ocean knoll]

wdym 99 😭

[quasi crystal]

And you're not bypassing the integer limit

[quasi crystal]

Did I say the enemies get to 99

[lavish jacinth]

it's possible if they're speedrunning every stage and have

[honest badger]

nobody who does that is right in the head

[brazen sluice]

quick question: how do i get back on the path of the collosus without looping? i accidentally used the TP to end the stage instead of the portal? (im on stage 3 now)

[quasi crystal]

You have to loop

[honest badger]

use bazaar but stage 3 is too late

[ocean knoll]

yeah tough luck if you're on stage 3

[brazen sluice]

wait...how else would you do it?

[honest badger]

bazaar, gold portals and halcyon shrines are the only ways you can

[brazen sluice]

i was only on the path for 1 stage

[honest badger]

and none of them work from stage 3-5

[brazen sluice]

didnt they add a new "secret" method in the last patch?

[honest badger]

that's in bazaar and doesn't work from stage 3-5

[ocean knoll]

for stages < 3

[quasi crystal]

Whether it's a bug or poor design you can spawn a green portal but only before stage 4

[honest badger]

it's intentional

[lavish jacinth]

there are 3 geode things hidden in the bazaar that you can break to spawn a green portal

but yeah, it has to be before stage 3

[hoary sedge]

it's intentional, it wouldn't have any stage to send you to after stage 4

[quasi crystal]

Drom what I've been told it doesn't appear on looping and there are surely stages for it to send you on a loop

[honest badger]

it does on looping

[quasi crystal]

People lie then

[hazy jewel]

Is there an item that increases poison damage?

for acrid

[wide parrot]

No

[full apex]

all normal damage ups like focus crystal and AP rounds do, they affect all damage

for specifically poison, not really since it doesnt proc

base damage increases like from shaped glass will only affect the minimum, since it can never deal <100% of your base attack per second

[quasi crystal]

Starlie sighting

[primal vector]

And dont forget death mark. Increases damage and is good with any debuff

[brazen sluice]

can you go stage3 -> gold portal -> false son?

[dense summit]

finished a run i started last night, @daring cloak @wide parrot thanks a bunch for your tips especially regarding item scrapping

this was laughably easy honestly, i mean a bit of luck was involved too, i guess

i think i kind of gamed the system since i have both dlcs for now disabled but the void has no timer and still has the random chests scattered around

[sudden hearth]

What are these portals for?

[lavish jacinth]

green portal takes you to path of the colossus, celestial portal takes you to the obelisk where you can obliterate yourself

[fast briar]

Or fight kipkip or his other henchmen

[pliant valve]

Can I only play the dlc once per run?

Talking about seekers of the storm btw

[primal vector]

If you beat false son you cannot go back to the alt path

[pliant valve]

Dang so I wasted 120 minutes trying to get the character lol

[pliant valve]

Thanks

[fresh umbra]

Tyler fortnite ninja blevins kjaro’s band gif

[trim narwhal]

wait really

i swear i cooked multiple false sons in a run before

[quasi crystal]

I heard there was a bug before this update where gilded coast would spawn green portal on stage 3s even after beating him

[trim narwhal]

that might be it

i do remember i went thru gilded

[rare pawn]

is getting false son surv over if i go to second green stage and theres no halcyon shrine

[livid wedge]

If you are on a green stage, a green portal will spawn at the tp

For the next

[rare pawn]

Yeah but you need the aurelion heart thing to get the survivor not just go to next green level and you need a halcyon shrine on green stage for that

Orrrr what i learned is you can also force teleport to gold realm by dreaming at bazaar from a green portal world, then take a green portal from gold world to final boss and get the survivor

[lavish jacinth]

you can go to path of the colossus at almost any time, you don't have to go there first and then go to gilded coast from those stages.
Once you've got the halcyon seed just go to the bazaar and hit the 3 geode things that are hidden in there to get a green portal. They'll only appear if you're before the 3rd stage of the current loop though

[honest badger]

OH I SEE WHY I THOUGHT THAT, I DIDNT KNOW PLAYER LEVE WAS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT 😭

[quasi crystal]

Oh I thought you were just fucking around hence my reply

[honest badger]

no all my friends tease me for being blind to ui elements

i saw a level on the top right and assumed it was mine

[remote badge]

Any one else have the bug of cant shoot?

[honest badger]

when does this happen

any mods?

[remote badge]

multiplayer , random times, no mods

[honest badger]

can you give an example?

of when it happened

[remote badge]

everyone and all the enimies are still moving around but i cant use my m1 or m2 can still use my shift r and q

its happening to my friend in the game as well

[honest badger]

yes but can you please give an example of something you were doing when it happened

[karmic surge]

It may as well just be ass lag I think

[remote badge]

just running around killing stuff nothing special , also cant interact with chest but can still pick up items

[honest badger]

does your friend have no mods as well?

[remote badge]

yeah

[honest badger]

hm

i would suggest making a bug report but there's not enough information to reproduce it

[karmic surge]

Did it happen ever before

[remote badge]

then if we quit and rejoin it fixes until it happens again

no it has not been an issue before , fresh install for me and its his first time playing

[karmic surge]

It may just really be horrible lag then, since you said you have no mods installed

[remote badge]

it doesnt seem as anything lags , like everything still moves no stuttering, just cant use my stuff

[remote badge]

so i downloaded it on my wifes pc, same friend same everything no issues at all

been playing since my last message no issues

[royal fiber]

whenever i play huntress i do like 0 dps what should i be looking for item wise?/

[forest depot]

hank137 was banned.

[quasi crystal]

was about to ping

@royal fiber get balista

[full apex]

i just walked up lol i didnt even sit down

good timing

[quasi crystal]

Why are the mean mods banning nice people giving free crypto

[royal fiber]

agree^

[royal fiber]

also thank you ill try that

[karmic surge]

I bet all rorcord moderators have 500$ or so from free $$$ already. Very profitable job

[quasi crystal]

Really huntress is like commando @royal fiber she is good with everything bands, procs, equipment etc if you use her alt m1 she's especially good with crit. are also really important because her m2 has insane aoe, and if you have seekers of the storm luminous shot is a must on her

[royal fiber]

i gotta look into what bands are, i heard abuot them but ive never seen one

also i looked at the req for ballista and this is gonne be SO hard.

[quasi crystal]

It's not that bad huntress is mobile

[prime parcel]

does mithrix on drizzle still require brain power? trying to get desperado

[quasi crystal]

yeah just fought phase 4 on leve l 1 on drizzle while he was level 60 it was easy

[prime parcel]

got scared at one part since royal capacitor oneshotted it

forgot he hadn't even snatched my items yet

oh well now I have desperado

[zealous wave]

Is there anyway I can transfer my save data from my PlayStation to my PC?

[peak jacinth]

no, but you can unlock things for free with mods

[zealous wave]

Alrighty

I’ll just stick with console

[keen parcel]

Is there anyway i can make the prime meridian event if i enter a normal portal

[honest badger]

bazaar has two ways of reaching it

[keen parcel]

Alr

Thanks

[dusky hill]

whats the easiest method of unlocking void fiend?

[honest badger]

simulacrum as engineer

[dusky hill]

maybe is just suck at simulacrum or got unlucky but i CANNOT for the life of me get past wave 10 - 15 ish

ill try

any specific build or just your average engi build?

[honest badger]

it's really just bungus cheese

[waxen nova]

Is chef's passive supposed to heal him less as you level up?

[dusky hill]

thanks for the help. already on wave 20 thanks to you: )

[lavish jacinth]

no, it should be 8% of his maximum health

[waxen nova]

I saw that on the wiki too and it didn't mention how much the healing increased if you hit the enemy with more skills so I decided to test it myself

2 skills: 13 hp healed, 110 max hp, ~11.82%
18 hp healed, 176 max hp, ~10.23%
21 hp healed, 209 max hp, ~10.05%
23 hp healed, 242 max hp, ~9.5%
3 skills: 19 hp healed, 110 max hp, ~17.27%
27 hp healed, 176 max hp, ~15.34%
31 hp healed, 209 max hp, ~14.83%
35 hp healed, 242 max hp, ~14.46%
4 skills: 31 hp healed, 143 max hp, ~21.68%
41 hp healed, 209 max hp, ~19.62%
47 hp healed, 242 max hp, ~19.42%
All of this was on stone golems with artifact of kin and no items

[dense summit]

i've recently unlocked acrid and i keep dying constantly with him, i just died on stage 3 and last run i died on fucking stage one against an elite lemurian, wtf am i doing wrong?

[steady stone]

Your biggest tool is your debuffs, being able to deal with hordes by first chipping the smaller enemies down
On the larger enemies, the last hit of your M1 has life steal, and you should be using your dash to get close and to get out if needed

The double dash gives him some of the best movement you can get

But his R, epidemic iirc, has essentially an infinite hit count as long as there are targets

Mostly because it's more than the max enemy count

[dense summit]

is melee a death sentence with him?

[odd flint]

how do i make servers that hold 16 people since apparently it was changed with the update

[peak jacinth]

no, it’s very effective since you can cancel the animation of the m1 by sprinting. Usually hit and run strategies are safer, but they’re less fun and going melee definitely doesn’t get you killed.

[trim narwhal]

no but yes but no, its definitely harder to melee past earlygame, and theres tech, and you can build around it etc. but if ur struggling u should just spit and dip instead of minmaxing melee dps. you can learn proper melee when its safe unsafe risky or etc, later, after ur more comfortable with acrid maybe

its not as safe as say staying in melee as merc, u could for instance learn merc first

your poison does %hp dmg so just throwing your epidemic behind at the swarm every 10 seconds and then running til they die will clean out anything no matter what items u got, after a reasonable amount of time

[junior pike]

What is the name of the things that give you any item from a class (so the green version gives green items, grey gives grey items, etc) and how do I get them

I've noticed it's not in every multiplayer game so I'm confused how to get it

[wide parrot]

Command Essence? You need to enable the Command artifact

[junior pike]

Yes exactly that

Thank you I now know what tutorial to find

[lavish jacinth]

good to know, probably safe to assume that it's meant to be 10%/15%/20% and the slight variation is just due to rounding

it does make you wonder where they got 8% from though lol

[quasi crystal]

Monster tooth recycling lol

[lavish jacinth]

probably

unless it got changed along with the change they made to roll

[trim narwhal]

roll nerfs

[karmic lance]

does the pc version work with controller ?

it use to work just fine with my switch pro controller on usb

does it just not work with bluetooth ?

cause im trying to use it via bluetooth and its just not connecting

[livid wedge]

It's worked with bluetooth controllers for me

As long as they can connect and steam sees them

Whether or not the bluetooth controller connects via Bluetooth is up to your pc, not the game

[karmic lance]

yeah i figured as much, the controller works and is connected to the pc, like ive tried it on other games and the controller is working fine but whenever i try to use it on ror2 it just doesnt connect

even unplugging my mouse so that the controller is the only possible thing that can take control it still doesnt do anything

im prolly just having skill issue rn

[livid wedge]

I'd double check steam is seeing it, assuming you're on steam

[karmic lance]

okay yeah it was just skill issue i just restarted my pc and it worked fine

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

i might be dumb as hell my bad chat

[livid wedge]

No embeds in this chat

Can only upload

[karmic lance]

epic embed fail too im cooked

[livid wedge]

Oh wait, you can

You just need a role first #roles

https://tenor.com/view/dorothy-nikke-dorothy-doro-doro-doro-nikke-meme-gif-9747277731567365136

@karmic lance

[karmic lance]

oh sweet

thanks again for your help fella

https://tenor.com/view/kaito-luvs-u-gif-26888944

[livid wedge]

#ror2-discussion does have embeds banned, though

[agile dragon]

Trying to get false son but cant get double halcyon shrine without looping which makes the whole process take like 3x longer and ill probably die in second loop. Is it just stupid rare or is there a workaround if it never spawns in stage 2 and 3

[slim spoke]

you can dream for meri in stage 4 or 5 i think

[lavish jacinth]

You don't need a halcyon shrine anymore, there are geodes hidden in the bazaar that you can break to spawn a green portal. Has to be before the third stage of the current loop tho

[agile dragon]

I need the gold portal to get auriolenite

[lavish jacinth]

That's still rng but you don't need a halcyon shrine for that either

[daring cloak]

Gilded coast sometimes appears in the bazaar seer

[lavish jacinth]

Or you can just get a gold shrine on any stage

(Except stage 1)

[unborn ore]

Got my first loop, is it random or did i do something accidetantly?

[steady stone]

Using any exit other than the unaltered stage 5 portal will loop you

You can change the destination (aim for the planet to loop, moon to end) by using the prongs on the outer ring until they move position, and then activating teleporter

A message posts in chat saying the destination
or just use newt/ambry

[unborn ore]

Ah i see

Thank you for the explanation 👀

[honest badger]

(or halcyon shrine, or gold shrine, or the elusive void orb)

[lavish jacinth]

void portal doesn't loop

[simple halo]

If you take a blue orb to a shop in the path of the colossus, can you continue on the path after the shop?

[daring cloak]

No

[mellow crystal]

Tbh maybe with the new bazaar geodes
I haven't tried myself yet

[daring cloak]

You can but you have to use the bazaar seer (if a sots stage is offered) or the mini geodes if you entered from stage 2

[simple halo]

geodes?

[mellow crystal]

If you "hear thunder rumbling" in the chatbox when entering the bazaar, three geodes will have spawned around
Breaking all three spawns a green portal

Iirc tho it can't take you straight from stage 3 to false son

Only 1 -> 2 and 2 -> 3

[daring cloak]

Yes they only appear if you come from stage 1 or 2

Super limiting for no reason imo

[mellow crystal]

Ig gearbox wants us to at least visit one potc stage before prime meridian but yeah I don't like it either

[fresh umbra]

peekers of the ctorm

[daring cloak]

They'd need to make the potc stages more unique for that to make any sense

Otherwise its just an arbitrary rule that you have to visit treeborn

And at that point you could just make it so you have to visit altar too because then at least you'd have to see the whole path through

[quasi crystal]

Man I wish I knew the name of risk of rain 2's 2nd expansion

[scarlet kestrel]

why does my logbook show all the white items without padlocks, but there are white items with padlocks on the authority's artifact?

are there any hidden items or anything like that?

[daring cloak]

Are you in simulacrum?

Because certain items such as fireworks or squid polyps are disabled in simulacrum

[scarlet kestrel]

no

I'm in normal game mode]

[daring cloak]

Odd, that should only happen if you havent unlocked those items

[scarlet kestrel]

unfortunately I can't upload photos here

[daring cloak]

Get any role #roles

[lavish jacinth]

do you own both dlcs and have them enabled?

[scarlet kestrel]

thanks

[scarlet kestrel]

Just the seekers of the storm, I went to the Wiki and realized that some items that are missing for me are items like the mocha, clock... I've already done two runs of 1h+ and I simply didn't get any

Is there anything I can do to unlock these items? Or am I just unlucky?

I should have about 100 items in these runs

[mellow crystal]

Mocha and stuff is sotv iirc

[scarlet kestrel]

whats sotv iirc

[lavish jacinth]

Survivors of the Void, the other DLC

[mellow crystal]

Survivors of the void if I remember correctly

[lavish jacinth]

if you don't own it then those items appear as locked

[scarlet kestrel]

lol

It's weird that the game shows the items as if they were unlockable with my current version of the game

ok thanks everyone

One last question, a friend of mine mentioned that if I have the authority artifact and haven't picked up the item, it will be available with the artifact

Sure, if it doesn't have a lock

is that true?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[scarlet kestrel]

cool, thanks again

[vast spire]

hey yall, picked up ror2 for my girlfriend recently and havent really played ror2 that much since the people who thought the borderlands movie was a good idea to make picked it up, and she keeps getting randomly disconnected from my lobbies. it shows her moving around and enemies slide around and she cant interact with anything for a minute, and then she gets dc'd on my end (both same internet btw) , its happened twice now and in the entire time ive played this game, never had it happen before, any help?

[lavish jacinth]

are you both on steam? if so make sure you both have crossplay turned off in settings

chances are that'll fix it, the crossplay netcode is barely functional and causes pretty much all of the multiplayer bugs on PC.
But if that doesn't work or you're not on steam, #ror2-tech-support may be able to help

[quasi crystal]

I'm just gonna speculate the items are there because they need to be in the base game for prismatic trials to be functional for non dlc players

[slow meteor]

saw someone with heretic as a selectable character, is this a mod or a feature?

[lavish jacinth]

mod

[slow meteor]

thx

[tepid ocean]

did they fix the false son laser ramping bug

[steady stone]

There hasn't been a patch since the rework, so if it's the same one I'm thinking of with it never resetting, no

[trim narwhal]

theres two now 👍

[cunning tide]

how does playing in multiplayer affect getting multikill, do i have to get the killing blow?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[cunning tide]

oh ok

[slate otter]

is the broken robot a guaranteed spawn on stage 4

[quasi crystal]

It is always on abyssal depths @slate otter

[prime parcel]

First time making it to singleplayer mithrix. Am I set?

nvm the walls got me

[fast briar]

Like faxmachine said I'm guessing it's crossplay, I used to always have that problem a lot and then turned it off and never had it again.

[quasi crystal]

Red particles

[primal vector]

It also has an audio cue

And in the menu you can make the red particles more visible iirc

[placid mauve]

best equipment

[chrome mist]

does clover effect chance doll

[placid mauve]

Lil ball thing can wreck you if you stand in the aoe for even a tiny amount of time even with loads of

[trim lynx]

lunar chimera wisp is just a damage check

well, and range too

[daring cloak]

The projectiles of those golems are so unpredictable and their aoe killed me multiple times by going through walls I hid behind

The other two are very predictable

[placid mauve]

I'm going for mithrix on merc and I have 2 reds to spend, what do I get?

[trim lynx]

i dont think ive ever been hit by a golem except when meleeing them

[fair lichen]

Anyone know a good source that explains the 3rd swing + skill usage combo thing that's supposed to make Merc way better? I heard it mentioned in a video or two, but can't find a vid or something that fully explains it and/or how to pull it off.

[trim narwhal]

using a skill that moves you during 3rd m1 also moves the m1 hitbox

try it ingame, using shift as your 3rd m1 is coming out

and you should see an extra expose on the whole swarm

[echo light]

^
you want to time the movement of your shift with the active frames of the 3rd m1 swing's hitbox

this moves the hitbox along with you which will deal damage & apply expose as it normally does, but across a much wider area because it's moving along the trajectory of your shift

be aware that the window to do this gets smaller as you get more attack speed though, so it can be worth scrapping/not taking very much attack speed if you want to do expose tech

[trim narwhal]

works with m2 and evis too, but shift is the most important

[lavish jacinth]

this might help https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2632486396

but tl;dr you just wanna use your 3rd swing and another skill at almost exactly the same time, but the swing needs to happen just slightly first, within the first couple frames of its animation

one trick that helps is doing it at point-blank range so the sword hitbox deals damage the instant it appears. that causes some hitpause that gives you a little extra time to use another skill

[mellow crystal]

Showcase clip jumpscare

[lavish jacinth]

having too much attack speed can also make it harder, or even impossible

but yeah it's all about the timing, and you kinda just get a feel for it with practice. If you have time to see animation of the sword swinging, you're already too slow

[leaden field]

2 and 3 are irrelevant compared to 1

[fresh umbra]

Getting hit by the perfected lunar c wisp

[silent stirrup]

is there a reason why there isnt a portal spawning next to my shrine of rebirth after false son?

[mellow crystal]

Interact with the shrine of rebirth once to spawn the portal, and twice to rebirth

[mossy fern]

Does seed of life work with the drone

[lavish jacinth]

technically yes but not really

the drone needs to use it in the few seconds between you dying and the death screen popping up, which it usually doesn't

although it'd probably work fine in multiplayer

[marble osprey]

It does work fine to revive the drone though, not that you'd really want it to do that

[stable horizon]

Captain can charge his m1 by holding down the button, right? It's not working for me for some reason

When I hold down m1 it just fires the shotgun immediately

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, he's supposed to be able to charge it

do other charged skills work? charged primaries in particular

[little cloak]

Where are the hermits crabs?

I thought it spawns here post-loop

These thing are the only enemy is spawinng

[quasi crystal]

You got a family event

[little cloak]

A what event sorry?

Oh cmon this can't be real lmaoooo

[quasi crystal]

It's real

[slim spoke]

worst family event, period

[placid mauve]

On my run yesterday there were over 20 perfected lunar wisps all in the same place surrounding one of the pillars 💀

[ocean monolith]

I need to ask to make sure my hypothesis is correct
Ion Surge is a pillar skip, right?

[slim spoke]

yes

[thin socket]

Any tips on beating Alloy Worship Unit as Bandit?

[fast briar]

Stand on top of him and move around to get to his back

And use your invisibility a bunch, especially when he's gonna shoot all the balls since he forgets your exact location

[thin socket]

Getting on top of him is easier said than done.

I know that there are items that can increase your vertical mobility but getting those is a crapshoot.

[wind kernel]

dear diary

shrine of rebirth... the one after beating false son

is considered as a shrine too

so defiant gouges works on it

almost died when 2193123 overloading elder lemurian spawned

[ocean monolith]

Thanks, starting Arti’s Eclipse when I get home, so I wanna make sure it works before I even attempt to Pillar Skip with it

[lavish jacinth]

Climb up onto a high ledge and jump down, you can use cloak as a sort of double jump

It actually is pretty easy

[daring cloak]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT?

That is indescribably hilarious

"Hooray you beat false son and put an item in the shrine! Now go kill these guys"

[livid wedge]

Can confirm

[ocean monolith]

That’s fucking awesome

[fierce badge]

When I go to the artifacts tab and click on the artifact twice it has a little x on it, what does that do?

[mellow crystal]

Voting against it in multiplayer

In singleplayer it's effectively the same as regular disabling

[fierce badge]

Thank you

[cunning tide]

i am using artifact of command but some icons are locked, why?

locked icon when making selection

[mellow crystal]

You don't have those items unlocked

[vestal radish]

Does noxious thorn rolls another 10% chance for bleed or additive to ?

[ocean monolith]

I’m pretty sure it’s a flat 10% added

Might be wrong tho

[lavish jacinth]

additive to tritip

[eager shell]

Is there pvp

[fresh umbra]

Artifact of chaos does that

[lavish jacinth]

it's not exactly pvp though, just friendly fire

there isn't an actual pvp mode

[lavish jacinth]

there used to be a mod for it but it hasn't been updated in forever afaik, #ror2-modding would know tho

although it kinda sucked from what I've heard, ror2 survivors are not balanced for pvp at all

[fast briar]

bro how do you dodge the false son dash, its so insanely busted and he attacks way too fast after dashing

[mellow crystal]

Moving backwards mostly
The chronobauble slow definitely helped a ton here but jumping and moving backwards has worked for me with anyone with a bit of movespeed

[eager shell]

Ty for the reactions

[fast briar]

What why is he so passive to you for me he dashes into me and aggressively slams his club

Oh nvm chronobauble slow

I'll try your strat

[bitter ore]

which one do i take

[lavish jacinth]

I'd go elixir, it gives good survivability for turrets

[bitter ore]

ok

[lavish jacinth]

and you've got some move/attack speed already

[bitter ore]

theres also a hoof printer and a scrapper so im good for movement speed

[bitter ore]

ok this build has become very good

[boreal herald]

What's the best red item for False Son?

[primal vector]

Growth nectar increases HP so there is that

[thin socket]

So I can get the Alloy Worship unit down to a certain fraction of its health, but then it starts using that attack that gives itself a shield and shoots you up in the air and I’m screwed every time.

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think there's anything super specific to him, just any of the usual good ones or any of the SotS reds (we don't have emotes for them)

[primal vector]

Anything that reduces CD has to be good on him also

[lavish jacinth]

shoot it when the shield is down and don't stand in the giant blue circles on the ground

sticking to high ground or standing on top of it helps

if you do get launched, just try to use a skill that cancels momentum before you hit the ground if you have one, most movement abilities will work

[prime parcel]

I feel like I'm lacking damage even if I am super lucky

[lavish jacinth]

I mean... you don't really have much damage there

[prime parcel]

the brainstem was from stage 1, aegis from this stage, and scope from a delivery form on the same stage

doesn't help that I got killed with corrupted dios

should I try fighting allied worship unit with this?

[lavish jacinth]

I would, but I'd happily take it on with no damage items at all lol

but you've only got a handful of items that are actually contributing to your damage, and not by very much

[prime parcel]

omg I just got another useless red...

icbm from a small chest.

[lavish jacinth]

great if you can get a missile item lol

I assume you're full-clearing every stage

[prime parcel]

hadn't done the math yet but not necessarily

[lavish jacinth]

you should be, ideally

[prime parcel]

ooo a mountain shrine

this is the worst idea ever

oh nooo there was a crit glasses printed

I should've never done that first void cradle...

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, if you hadn't had the revive, you wouldn't even have lived to find the printer in the first place, so...

[prime parcel]

fair enough

atleast I have a 2% chance to instakill things now

also is the allied worship unit the guaranteed red item on this map?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[prime parcel]

died while trying to do teleporter first

oh well better luck (maybe) next time

[honest badger]

how can I full clear stages without spending too much unnecessary time (i.e several minutes of double checking) or missing interactables?

[mellow crystal]

Usually I try to follow a circular path of sorts on most maps, especially on stage 1s
Or on maps like helminth and aphelian, mentally split them into different segments and loot each segment individually

You don't have to stay in one segment and full loot it before moving to another one tho, you can also just like
Mark it as looted/unlooted and move on

[honest badger]

hmm okay

i just feel like im always missing 1-2 chests, even on maps like treeborn that i know every inch of

[mellow crystal]

For that it helps to take advantage of the fact chests outside the tp radius during the tp event have those red tendril things holding them closed
Makes them easier to spot

[honest badger]

i do have a highlighter mod

[lavish jacinth]

Try to also keep a mental note of spots that are easily missable but often have loot, like the ledge around the back of the buildings on treeborn.

also if it helps, chests spawn using the same nodegraph that enemies use for pathfinding, which means you can always ignore areas if they can't easily be reached by grounded enemies

[lavish jacinth]

also adding to this, once you start mentally dividing up areas, try to keep track of how many interactables usually spawn in each area. It's not 100% consistent, but I find it helps to know how many chests you should expect to find in each section of a map.
Like if there's a spot that usually has one chest, and I only find one chest when I check there, I know it's probably safe to move on from that area

[quasi crystal]

I'd say royal capacitors

[silk yoke]

Anyone know what this is?

The yellow orbs

[quasi crystal]

Your equipment drone?

[cunning jay]

wtf do I do about the guy with the machine gun

i need some strategies, he always kills me too fast

[quasi crystal]

With a pot on his head?@cunning jay

[primal vector]

If you don have enough speed to get behind him fast, treat the shooting as the colossus' laser and hide behind something

Also, if you get near him, instead of running away, he is going to have a harder time aiming at you

[quasi crystal]

So breaking los will cause him to cancel, this has a long animation plus it starts a cooldown, so you can effectively peak them.
Alternatively just go aggressive clay templars tracking gets worse the closer you are (circle strafe them)

[primal vector]

And of course, you can use anything that stunts

[broken shale]

been learning acrid, seen lots of conflicting info, what items should i be looking for/prioritize, esp in terms of healing

[lethal abyss]

when i use the command artifact, half my items are question marks, is this because i dont have the dlc's?

alr ty

[analog brook]

Healing really depends what you are and arnt comfortable with and on what you're struggling with.
But damage multipliers like helps immensely because It multiplies the effectiveness of poison. Worth to note that the third hit of your primary heals you for 5% hp, you can also sprint to cancel the attack animation and go straight to the 3rd combo, or just generally do all 3 claws easier

Oh oops no reply, @broken shale

Really, healing like is all you need if you have suffient speed to dodge and defense

[broken shale]

Ive been taking stuff like topaz brooches, razorwire, shimps, etc, is this a bad idea orrrr?

[broken shale]

np :3

[analog brook]

Shimps?

Razorwire is mainly a tool used for AoE and pesky small enemies, it's fine but acrid does have really have crowd control on his special so it's fine if you turn it to scrap

Topaz brooches are aight, you obviously wouldn't wanna get hit in the first place but if you do then it can occasionally take stress off of you

Gasoline works great with acrid because the ignite and poison together can chain kills super easily and finish them off by itself

[broken shale]

always fire missile with sheild

[broken shale]

ah, still really learning, so do still end up getting hit more than i should

[analog brook]

Oh yes shrimp is amazing

are pretty much instant pickups for me

[broken shale]

That reminds me, i normally play with my friends who have the dlc (i don't have them), but ive been running more solo latley, out of the 2 dlcs, what one would be more important to grab?

[broken shale]

looks very silly

[analog brook]

I would personally advocate much more for survivors of the void, it has very powerful items but it also has some enemies that take quite a bit to adapt to, but they are very much fair and able to be played around

[broken shale]

ty :3

[analog brook]

Np!

[broken shale]

so in general, what would be a list of the most important/prioity items for acrid (if you wouldn't mind)

also is actually that good on acrid?

[broken shale]

railgunner looks so fun aswell

[analog brook]

She is hella fun

[analog brook]

It's aight. One is probably all you'd want though, as it gives less and less each stack

If you're going to mithrixs you'll probably not want more than one, and if you're looping it probably won't matter

[broken shale]

When i ever do mithrix, i always struggle with the big spinning aoe, so does my group

Any advice for that?

[fast briar]

Phase 3 in general is hard as hell but its best to get into medium range with him as there the pizza attack moves slower than the edge of the map and you have a better chance at dodging, also just learn the timing of when it actually hits, that attack is known to be pretty hard to dodge tho

[analog brook]

Yes!
The spin always happens after he slams into the center of the arena and does one attack.
It's better to be closer than further away during this attack, since it goes slower the closer you are.
And this one is the best tip but by far the hardest to apply: run through and past the lines going towards you. It's difficult to do mentally but going through and past it is better than trying to run away from it, as it makes the space and timing to get hit much much much smaller

[broken shale]

So just run with it?

[primal vector]

Put to practice everything you know about angular acceleration

[analog brook]

Imagine you're looking at mithrix, and this is the top down view
/ U |
The lines are the big spinny AoE, and U is you.
Imagine that the lines are going to the left, what you wanna do is go to the right to get through the | wall quicker. If you try to also go left/clockwise you'll get caught up in it

[broken shale]

OHHHH, i see now

[analog brook]

Yup yup

[broken shale]

But yeh, what would you say for this? :3

I always find what i need to look for a little confusing, so a list of just needed/important or useful things helps lots

[analog brook]

I think these message explained it ok

But healing can be prioritized last if you prioritize speed > defense > heal
If you have speed you can avoid things and don't need defense, if you have defense you need less healing

[broken shale]

Ig, didn’t expect it to be that simple :0

[analog brook]

Kind is yea, you can make it more indepth if you want but those are pretty much just basics which can cover all players methinks

[broken shale]

Oh, How useful is always been looking for it in runs

[broken shale]

I assume sticky bomb, atg, uke, and willowisp are all good dps picks still right? :3

[analog brook]

It's pretty aight! It's nice overall for melee characters but if I had a recycler it'd still fish for

[analog brook]

Yup, yup. Direct damage increases are all also good since it's all multiplicative

[broken shale]

Fair, then how good is for healing with smth like or seems fun

I love tesla

[analog brook]

Monster tooth is decent healing early game but later into a run there's no real need for it tbh

[broken shale]

I see

[analog brook]

Nearly all healing ultimately comes down to "is this run good enough to scrap everything else than a slug and get away with it?"

[broken shale]

I assume leeching or sctyhe are not a acrid pick

[analog brook]

Scythe is ok since it adds a secret +5% crit on the first stack, leeching seed is kind of a doodoo item anyway,,,,

[broken shale]

True, when i do play with friends we do use command so everyone can get what they want

[broken shale]

Thats sad for leeching :(

[broken shale]

In terms of equipment/red items, what should i be looking for?

[primal vector]

If you are using poison, avoid Goobo jr, as poison doesnt stack

[analog brook]

Depends on if you're looking or not really, and how much you wanna play the game assuming you're on command

[broken shale]

I dont normally use command on solo so just in general ig

[analog brook]

are generally the "questionably good" types (they're bad)

Everything else is p good

[broken shale]

Oki, anything that synergises with acrid orrrr?

[analog brook]

is very funny with acrids special

[broken shale]

Ooo

[analog brook]

can also stack with the leap if you press jump mid air while leaping upwards without jumping before hand and it's very very funny and also very very good

[broken shale]

I assume jade elephant/royal capacitor is always a good pick

[analog brook]

I don't like jade elephant because of my own incompetence, but that's user error

Capacitor is undoubtedly pretty good yea

[broken shale]

Is there a certain point/when looping i should stop using acrids meele?

[broken shale]

Its funy

[analog brook]

Whenever you stop feeling like it/don't need it/ enemies die before you get to use it and such

I'm not really a looper so I can't speak on this that much

[broken shale]

I feel like i get to a point where im not doing much with it sometimes

I get this with arti

But yeah @analog brook ty for all the help :3, going to grab the void dlc, any advice for railgunner?

[broken shale]

Forgot to mention this, I think my biggest issue is taking too much dmg while in combat, esp meele, not sure how to avoid that

[valid turtle]

learn how to aim

thats basically it

[hoary sedge]

hit your shots, using a second concussion mine instantly detonates the first, the crit chance to damage only gives you half of the chance ( is +5% crit damage), is your best friend

[wintry fjord]

Don't get hit

[silk yoke]

No. It was stationary and spinning and stuff

[lavish jacinth]

It's the effect from volcanic egg, I'm guessing your equipment drone had one? The visual effect just bugs out and gets stuck sometimes

[analog brook]

Use your primary for movement instead of combat (; quick scope everything lol

[analog brook]

Try to consciously pay attention of when the enemy is done with their attack to get in and take that window of opportunity

[ocean monolith]

Pizza actually is on a timer after he jumps
If he’s stuck swinging for long enough, you can kill him before he ever does Pizza

Ik this cause with Engi, there’s a certain position the turrets can be to where he can get stuck doing the swing

[valid turtle]

maybe it was a scavenger in egg

[lavish jacinth]

that could also be it

[valid turtle]

i feel like the egg effect was bigger than it usually is on an equip drone

[broken shale]

i often get overwhellmed by enimies esp when looping, and get hit by smth i didn't see :(

[lavish jacinth]

Try to pay attention to sounds, most enemies have sound cues when they're about to attack. It can be hard to do when looping when there's a lot going on but it always helps to keep an ear out.
Also just in general, never stop moving. Ideally you circlestrafe around groups of enemies, but just strafing and jumping in place can save your life

most enemies have terrible aim lol
Try to prioritize stuff that's more likely to hit you, like wisps or blind pests

[fast briar]

Jump and run a lot, and as acrid prioritise poisoning enemies since you have insane damage potential and will kill enemies with poison if you have a finisher like

[wintry fjord]

1 item stage 2 is diabloicle

[lavish jacinth]

idk what I was doing here lol, I randomly recorded this while testing something else but I forget what it was

[broken shale]

in a ideal run (or atrifact of command) what should i aim to have by stage 4-5? (In general)

[broken shale]

how many items a stage is generally ideal? :3

[steady stone]

Generally characters are separated by burst or proc
Like commando shoots fast with a good proc coeff and is good with tritip because of it
Loader hits really hard every few seconds and is good with kjaros

[broken shale]

im super curious on that

[lavish jacinth]

as many as you can find, ideally you get everything on a stage as efficiently as you can

[steady stone]

All items per stage really
Items tend to outscale timer

[lavish jacinth]

the one thing you don't wanna do is rush to the teleporter without looting enough.
A good rule of thumb is to full-clear and leave with more items than minutes

[steady stone]

mhm, progressing stages adds a large amount of enemy scaling

[lavish jacinth]

and it's fine to spend a little extra time messing with printers and scrappers, since you're still (hopefully) making your build stronger by doing so

[steady stone]

All comes down to item equality or bloat

Turning 10 tritips into 10 crowbars on a burst character is a net gain of 0 items, but they're simply better on that character

[lavish jacinth]

when in doubt, just get a bit of everything. Items tend to build on each other, especially damage items, so mixing a bunch of random things together is almost always stronger than stacking a handful of specific items

[primal vector]

Defence/HP items do as well

[hoary sedge]

this is very very important, 5 each of will get you a LOT more damage than 20 of any of them individually

[broken shale]

is there a mod i can use to practise mithrix?

[broken shale]

watches are dlc right?

[broken shale]

any items you goobers reccomend on atri aswell, want to do the mastery for her

[tender temple]

Wax quail

[wide parrot]

Speed boosts

[broken shale]

is it worth stacking ukes, atgs, or wisps?

[plucky cobalt]

im pretty new to the game, whenever i play through a level i end up having a lot of excess money (except at the very beginning), and nowhere to spend it on. is there a way i can get more loot other than seeing a few chests on the floor?

i dont know anything about what each item does or how builds work, so i just take every item i can because i have the money for it

[wide parrot]

That’s what you should be doing

That’s the best way to learn how items work

As for spending more money, just try to learn the layouts of stages so you can effectively loot the e entire stage

There will always be a lot of leftover cash

[tropic latch]

any tips how to unlock rex easier?

[plucky cobalt]

do the items always spawn in set locations? i probably miss a couple of them cause i just dont see them at all, but there just dont seem to be that many in a stage, like around 10 at max

[wide parrot]

No

They are random

and about 10 per stage sounds right

[peak jacinth]

if you have any friends you can play as MULT with retool. Whenever the equipment is in your inactive loadout it won’t activate

you need multiplayer because MULT doesn’t have a drop pod

[slate otter]

whats that stupid rock guy called

from the green pillar things

[daring cloak]

Halcyonite

[slate otter]

was looking for this mod :D thanks

[waxen nova]

somewhat silly question, but is it possible to apply two stacks of the same debuff twice in one hit?
for example if your attack has a proc coefficient of >=1.0, you have both and , and the attack crits and also happens to proc the effect of tri-tip, would it apply two stacks of bleed or just one?

oh the tri-tip page on the wiki says only one nvm :P

[livid wedge]

You used to be able to

SotV update did away with it

[high forum]

i think shatterspleen used to be a different 'kind' of bleed but now it isn't, and thus applies only 1 stack per hit

[radiant phoenix]

Hello, does anyone know how to fix the problem with connecting to multiplayer? Like, my friend and I were trying to connect, and one of us always has the sky instead of choosing characters.

[lusty tartan]

Scavs have a % chance for spawning in Sundered Grove or its certain requeriment? And what is?

[onyx anchor]

I need some help in understanding how to have radio scanners exist more often, did an hour long run and none popped up

[full apex]

They were always the same bleed, its just masked now so you can only get 1 bleed per instance of damage, even if both effects would otherwise go off normally

[full apex]

They're just rare. Using command and or sacrifice help spawn rates a bit. Command removes printers from the pool, and while sacrifice spawns half as much stuff, it also removes all chests from the pool which results in a higher chance for rare stuff to spawn overall

The only other way to make them more likely is multiplayer, as the game spawns 50% more stuff per player, and more stuff means more chances for scanner

[lavish jacinth]

Assuming you're both on steam:

1. Make sure you both have crossplay turned off in settings
2. If either of you is running any mods that aren't client-side, either disable them or share them so you're both running the same ones

[hushed galleon]

How does one make ror2 run in offline mode again

bought seekers of storm dlc, now i cant run offline mode

[lavish jacinth]

Turn off crossplay

It really does solve everything

[hushed galleon]

funny thing that i already had it off 💔, turning on made the game literally unplayable, turned it back off

[lavish jacinth]

Oh weird, that fixed it for someone else. It should work just fine in offline mode otherwise. idk what the problem is then, sorry

#ror2-tech-support may have ideas though

[lavish jacinth]

atgs yes, wisps maybe (they stack well but don't work against mithrix unless you have so keep that in mind), ukes I'd stop stacking at like 2-3, even one is usually good enough

best strat is to have some of each tho
atgs can proc uke and spread out their high damage to get more kills, those kills proc more wisp explosions which in turn can proc more atgs and ukes. Proc chaining is very stronk

[tame ridge]

Guys Please help Im stuck on vers 1.3.5 whenver i want to join my friend it says hes on 1.3.7 how do i fix this will pay if you help

[broken shale]

how do atgs stack?

[mellow crystal]

300% (+300% per stack) total damage iirc

No increased proc chance tho

[broken shale]

ooooooh, whats the proc chance with 1.0 coefficient?

[delicate knoll]

Guys im with speez, am i playing with mods if it says that im on version 1.3.7?

[mellow crystal]

10%

[broken shale]

oh oki :3

[waxen nova]

Does affect acrid's regenerative buff? It seems like a set amount of health gained so I assume not

[delicate knoll]

I think it doesn't because acrid can only regenerate a set amount for his level, so it might not affect hid main heal

i'm not too sure though

[broken shale]

just looking at the wiki etc, how does using primary for movment work :0

[delicate knoll]

Can u explain a little bit?

[broken shale]

railgunner m1

[fresh umbra]

If that’s what i think it means, it means if you get a bunch of attack speed and hold down the full auto as railgunner, you can fly

But you need a LOT of attack speed (and that might not even be what they meant)

[hoary sedge]

well the railgunner m1 still affects your momentum even if you don't have enough to fly

so you can launch yourself further with the mines if you turn around and shoot in the opposite direction you want to go

you can also mitigate fall damage a little with it

that's also how her pillar skip works, you can use the m1 to sustain the momentum from a mine+cryocharge launch

[fresh umbra]

Oh, interesting

[lavish jacinth]

it has enough recoil to push you backwards slightly, which you can use to negate fall damage or jump a little bit further

it gets better with attack speed, but it's not really worth stacking AS on railgunner unless you're using the alternate scope

[broken shale]

oh, thats cool

[analog brook]

It lets you skip the pillars on stage 6

[lavish jacinth]

rejuv affects all forms of healing, so it should

[quasi crystal]

Stacking AS Is worth it on default special especially with lysate

[jovial stratus]

Why I can't see how much money and and items has my friend in multiplayer?

[dusky raven]

are they dead?

for some reasons since SotS launch you can no longer se allies' inventories if they die

[jovial stratus]

No, my friend can see but I can't

And I'm host

[spark hemlock]

What's the most easiest character for starters just asking because wanted to help my friend play and get used to the game for his first run

[quasi crystal]

[ocean monolith]

[mellow crystal]

Rg is easy too if they have decent aim but in singleplayer she gets overwhelmed quickly for newer players

Multiplayer should be fine tho

[spark hemlock]

Thanks

[wintry fjord]

I think to look cool

[livid wedge]

The drizzle icon reminds me of the new mombasa smile

The superintendent in odst

[charred hazel]

anyone know how to beat false son phase 3? like im breaking the pillars but im still locked out of my abilities

[mellow crystal]

Stay close to the geodes for a bit after cracking them
They cleanse in an aoe which doesn't appear for like a sec

[charred hazel]

ahhh ive been running away from them right after, thank u 🙏

[honest badger]

what's the best way to unlock mult power saw

(no artifacts)

[steady stone]

No command? Probably the guaranteed Preon in the RPD timer chest and building pure damage like AP.

If you're lucky, you find the Preon and get the imp as your boss on the same stage for RPD

[young orchid]

is plasma shrimp good on rex

[quasi crystal]

It's ok

[young orchid]

aite

[quasi crystal]

Provided you use non damaging m2

[vestal radish]

what are the geode spots in bazaar

[cunning jay]

does zet aspects count as cheating?

[steady stone]

mithrix is gonna yell at me if i do more than 4 attachments at once so hold on

[vestal radish]

thanks

[graceful dust]

It only spawns when the text "you hear thunder rumbling..." appears rght?

[steady stone]

I believe so

It's also used in chat when a halcyon shrine spawns on the stage

[fresh umbra]

This server has that problem too?

[livid wedge]

Depends on your items, honestly

Probably chaos

[peak jacinth]

pretty easily between honor, vengeance and chaos, but depends on your skill and your items

[rain spindle]

how does one get the logbook for the voidling

[peak jacinth]

by killing voidling and hoping it drops

[rain spindle]

so it is only a drop chance

[peak jacinth]

yea

clovers help

[rain spindle]

thanks

[broken shale]

Goobers, what items are good picks for arti

[quasi crystal]

Then of course the universally good items like crit movement speed most voids

[peak jacinth]

alien head is also notably pretty decent on arti where it’s usually not great

[quasi crystal]

If you have seekers of the storm bolstering lantern and luminous shot are very good

Bolstering especially so if running flamethrower

[primal vector]

Harpoon+Flamethrower is nice

[quasi crystal]

I'm sure with artis acceleration it is

[broken shale]

Ig, what abt universally good items?

[hoary sedge]

are the generally desirable items on basically anyone

there's more but those are the most notable ones

[peak jacinth]

I’d add some to this list: 1x

[signal gull]

Does sots have a revive related bug? I've been revived at least 3 times after purchasing the DLC and none of them consumed any revival items

Just happened 5 minutes ago too, I have a Dio's but it didn't get consumed

[fast briar]

Does seekers shift ability damage you way too fast or am I tripping, it says like 10% or something per second but it feels way faster than that

[frosty reef]

They added 2 new ways to revive (because the game wasn't easy enough) shaping shrine and seed of life equipment. Was it that?

[honest badger]

it's really funny to hoard raps

[peak jacinth]

you only really need one for preventing small ticks of damage, but yea it can be hilarious to do an ultra tanky build

[peak jacinth]

it’s 20% per second, but it does that damage over all game ticks so it feels faster

you constantly lose the health rather than losing it in chunks

[fast briar]

Oh alr that makes sense

The description doesn't really clarify it that well but tbf idk how you'd say it otherwise

[honest badger]

i will say that you only need 1-2

is always better to stack than

[peak jacinth]

yes it’s generally easier to understand seconds rather than game ticks so it works

[peak jacinth]

not if your character is agile

[broken shale]

Howcome only 1? Wouldn’t 2+ slugs be helpful?

[peak jacinth]

oh the only 1 was for RAP specifically

[honest badger]

it doesn't matter because is hyperbolic and is linear, meaning usually higher returns

[broken shale]

Ohhh, howcome?

[peak jacinth]

both are linear

[honest badger]

no

[broken shale]

Is more than 1 focus crystal also not good then?

[peak jacinth]

because RAP is mainly useful for preventing small instances of damage like burn, bleed, lasers, etc. and you wont really need to stack RAP to prevent those most of the time

[peak jacinth]

more than 1 focus crystal is great

[honest badger]

oh wait nvm i was misinformed

[broken shale]

Whats smth better for preventing dmg in general? Would it be + ?

[peak jacinth]

yea it’s just +17.24 per stack

[peak jacinth]

yea rose buckler is really good for damage prevention, too, but tbh the best damage prevention is practicing dodging enemies

[honest badger]

just dont get hit smh

[signal gull]

Realized it was the shrine on this run, but there was at least one scenario I remember where I was 100% sure I hadn't used it

or could just be my short term memory acting up, which is probably what happened since I haven't found anyone else having this problem

[broken shale]

I see is also a good pick for dmg on most survivors right?

[honest badger]

it's apparently controversial, but yeah. less damage than atg but you get more of it and it helps with proccing items

[broken shale]

I see

[honest badger]

depending on your proc rates it's way better

[primal vector]

Maybe you or someone in multiplayer were using Seeker? She can revive

[broken shale]

I like and but not sure if there are cases where they are a bad pick

[honest badger]

there are but they're very rare

[broken shale]

I see, how does that work? Does proc chance still effect it?

[broken shale]

They just better than the base items?

[honest badger]

it's guaranteed but lower proc coefficient does mean less damage

[broken shale]

Ohhh

[honest badger]

they're not straight upgrades, but generally yeah

[broken shale]

What red/boss items should I normally prioritize? :3

[broken shale]

Okiii

[peak jacinth]

I won’t go into it, but yea shrimp is pretty much always a good option unless you have clover

in practice most of the void items are straight upgrades because of how stacking works, which is an unfortunate side effect of implementation

[honest badger]

and

[honest badger]

not straight upgrades since that would imply the same effect but better, but they are generally better items

[broken shale]

I forgotb what the brain does :(

[fiery walrus]

I mean red and boss are kinda hard to prioritize
you just kinda get what you get unless you find a printer

[honest badger]

four seconds where you have no skill cooldown, every time you kill an elite

[honest badger]

oh i forgot the new ones are also really good: electric boomerang, growth nectar, and sonorous whispers

[broken shale]

Yeah, when i do play with friends they do insist on using artifact of command thou

[fiery walrus]

ah

[trim lynx]

recycler and soup are more common

[fiery walrus]

I mean if you're playing with command just try out different stuff
being able to choose whites carries you more than the reds, just do smth fun there

[broken shale]

tysm for the advice, i assume equipment kinda depends on survivor

[honest badger]

are always good

is build dependent but really fucking good too

[broken shale]

Capacitor is silly

[honest badger]

are good for mithrix since you can skip the pillars

[broken shale]

I assume there is always the situation where a meh item can be rlly good on someone like bungus + engi

[honest badger]

yeah every item has a niche

except some greens

are pretty much always bad

but even is good on

[broken shale]

I always take 1 on acird :3

For the silly

[primal vector]

Harpoon is really good on Arti with flamethrower, specially early on

[honest badger]

maybe. dont use arti flamethrower though

[broken shale]

Crit items (glasses) are kind bad on railgunner right?

[steady stone]

Ghor can put in work stage 1 and 2, and smuggle free chests into the next stage
Harpoons is good to get hit and runs

The best use for ghor is probably just smuggling after TP though

[honest badger]

crit chance is converted to crit damage so it's okay... but a crowbar is always better than a lensmakers

[broken shale]

Can never decide between ice spear or nano bomb

[honest badger]

ice spear has crazy knockback now

[steady stone]

They're both pretty good
Ice spear has more stun and the extra kill threshold with freeze, but nano bomb has good AoE and is good with high ground

[broken shale]

I assume engis item picks are pretty normal apart from +

[broken shale]

Flame bolt is kinda better right?

[steady stone]

Fire M1 can use ignition tank so it has good potential

[primal vector]

Having a Power elixir, that normally people dont like because its a consumible, can be interesting for Engi's turrets

[steady stone]

Mhm, engi resets consumed items on turrets as long as he has the unconsumed one
Probably works interestingly with new transmitter too, but Dios and Larva have always been the big cases

[primal vector]

Yes, stationary turrets+shield+transmitter is nice

[broken shale]

How does dios work on turrets?

[honest badger]

scrap since they're nearly useless for engi and grab

[steady stone]

They will consume it, but putting down a new turret is spawning an entirely new one
As long as YOU have dios it will be given to them again

Since they have their own item pools and wallets

[broken shale]

Or is razorwire a bad pick

[steady stone]

wire is pretty good

[broken shale]

Even with 30 bungus my turrets end up dying to the stacked mushroom fire

Or me

[honest badger]

well and are fine in general but engi benefits a lot from the item duplicates

same with and for bungus

[broken shale]

What the empathy cores do again

[honest badger]

oh and avoid with your LIFE

[honest badger]

summons two probes which benefit from your other allies

[broken shale]

Oh

[steady stone]

Also avoid tonic

[broken shale]

How do they benifit?

[steady stone]

Like +100% damage per ally iirc

[honest badger]

i forgot, are also good

[steady stone]

That's why it's good to spread empathy cores out in multiplayer

[honest badger]

probes gain more damage

[broken shale]

I feel like im tickling enemies with

[honest badger]

it replaces turret m1 so it's not amazing but it makes your shitty m1 useful again

[steady stone]

Visions is like, a 45ish percent raw damage buff from both sentries? There was a raw graph somewhere here

[honest badger]

oh damn really?

[broken shale]

So they good?

[honest badger]

and is an extra turret

[broken shale]

Can engi reliably proc bands?

[honest badger]

with mines yes

[broken shale]

Ah

Can turrets orrr?

[honest badger]

no

[primal vector]

You have to build for it

[steady stone]

It's actually way better
#ror2-game-questions message

230% boost

[steady stone]

With shurikens yes, and you all have separate band cooldowns

[honest badger]

bands are good for nectar at least

[steady stone]

That's why I like vand on engi to have 3 black holes at once

[honest badger]

always keep one even if just for that

[broken shale]

Guh

Anyone got advice on unlocking clover? Still have not done it :3

[honest badger]

i mean, just play a normal run without going to bosses

preferably as commando without picking up any lunar items

since he has the incorruptible unlock

[broken shale]

I always end up having issues with the scaling, when i was doing mastery i felt like I couldn’t safely loot after stage 6+

[honest badger]

avoid malachite elites, never stop moving, optimize the fuck out of bazaar soup

[broken shale]

Is this the same for engi? (Also wdym optimize bazaar?)

[honest badger]

yes it's the same, and it just means go to bazaar every stage and preferably with five green scrap

[broken shale]

Ah

What abt if using command or smth

[honest badger]

literally infinite seed of life

just get seed of life at every equipment barrel 😭

and tricorns

[broken shale]

And bungus?

[broken shale]

Real

[honest badger]

yeah you can get a ton of those if you want but don't skip out on movement items just because you have a ton of healing

[broken shale]

Artifact of command try not to be boring challenge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204540553971372072/1337110896920756296/RDT_20241118_2201016645429803181321652-1.gif

[broken shale]

What other items are generally important for engi then?

[honest badger]

grab

[livid wedge]

You want to focus on what's good for the turrets, not yourself. Also remember that turrets get a fresh copy of your inventory when deployed

So if the last turret used up its power elixir, the new turret will have an unused one as long as you do

Same for dios

[honest badger]

you do also need stuff for yourself but primarily just movement items

[livid wedge]

Ye

Red whip being good because deploying a turret doesn't break the speed

Neither do thermal harpoons for some weird reason

But the bubble shield does

[cunning tide]

On the false son survivor, what does getting backup mag do?

[primal vector]

You get one more use but nothing else

[cunning tide]

thx, what is a good damage strat on him

[primal vector]

atm, m1+m2 is totally broken. It has a proc coef of 3. With that you have all your damage needs covered for ground enemies

For flying, debuffing with spikes + laser is the main strat

[peak jacinth]

it’s very finicky, if the preon tendrils kill it you won’t get the achievement, so make sure the imp is low but not too low. For the same reasons it might be safer to avoid proc items and just try to focus on getting damage ups

[wide parrot]

I will take that bet

Play Command, but here is the challenge: You have to take items in the order they appear on the command screen. No repeats for each rarity until you have at least one of every item in that rarity.

[peak jacinth]

wait this actually sounds kinda fun

when you get each item at a rarity should you get them in order again or just pick

[wide parrot]

Start over from the beginning

[lavish jacinth]

also

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't deliberately take on him, if you're running command there are way better yellows ( )
also if turrets die with they'll get it anyway

[honest badger]

I would because it's cheesy as fuck

[lavish jacinth]

you do you I guess

[honest badger]

each turret gets its own void allies

[lavish jacinth]

I am aware

[trim narwhal]

you still get the stat buffs

armor as or speed regen etc

you just dont get stronger laser

[broken shale]

real

[broken shale]

any item advice for railgunner :3

but spare drone parts do seem silly

[broken shale]

was just wondering, what abt ap rounds and crowbars?

[wide parrot]

Do NOT go for on Railgunner. They are terrible on her.

[broken shale]

what does stacking perforators do? :3

or is it never worth it

[wide parrot]

More damage I believe

Complete and utter obliteration of all living creatures is always worth it :3

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, more damage. Anything that stacks damage is probably worth stacking

[lavish jacinth]

also > on railgunner
charged perf has a bug that makes it completely unable to crit on her, so assuming you're hitting headshots, you're getting more damage overall out of molten perf. Plus it gives her a bit of AoE which is always nice

[wide parrot]

the fuck

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[wide parrot]

that’s so dumb

[lavish jacinth]

for some reason charged always uses random crit chance instead of inheriting crit like most procs do, and rg's crit chance is always 0

charged is still really damn good on her, but if you have the choice, molten is better

[wide parrot]

Utterly unplayable game, absolutely garbage, how did this make it past playtesting

[lavish jacinth]

also exists

[lavish jacinth]

they probably copy-pasted code from capacitor and forgot to change the crit behavior

it wasn't really an issue until railgunner existed so they never bothered fixing it, if they even realized it was a thing

[broken shale]

should i use supercharge or cyrocharge?

[lavish jacinth]

up to preference, both are good

super has insane damage and proc potential but needs to be used carefully

cryo is weaker in terms of damage but can be used a lot more liberally, and the freeze effect is nice. Also it mithrix can be frozen for some reason so that's pretty cool

[lavish jacinth]

might be worth adding to this, railgunner doesn't have the best crowd control. Might not be an issue if you're good at quickscoping but it's nice to have

[broken shale]

equipment/boss/red items?

[lavish jacinth]

crowbar is kinda character-specific, it's great on survivors with really high burst damage, but ones that focus mainly on small rapid hits don't benefit much. They'd do better with

ap rounds is good on anyone, it just has limited use since it only works on bosses

[broken shale]

how many crosbars should i aim for on railgoober?

[lavish jacinth]

there isn't really a specific amount, there's no such thing as too much damage lol. But for every few crowbars you get, it's worth throwing in an occasional or (someone calculated the optimal ratio a while back but I forget what it is lol)

[lavish jacinth]

hard to go wrong with the usual suspects + any of the SotS reds. is also an easy pick for railgunner and can even outperform behemoth (better synergy with ) , especially if stacked.
ez boss pick for rg, but can be cool too (and it's game-breaking with ), or maybe for a little extra cc

equipment depends a lot on your build and playstyle, I'd honestly say just experiment and go with whatever seems to be helping the most.

In general I'd say are the top 5 go-tos, with honorable mention to . Although railgunner doesn't need the burst from , and are useless with command.

[honest badger]

i hate crowdfunder

[broken shale]

hows brain stalkb? or elephant

or goobo

[honest badger]

brain stalks arent great on rg

[lavish jacinth]

stalks is only really good on survivors with heavily spammable skills, which railgunner doesn't have. Also the activation condition holds it back a lot

elephant and goobo are thoroughly mid imo, elephant's duration is so short that you basically need to know right before you're about to take a ton of unavoidable damage, which is rare.
Goobo is funny to watch but its AI is too stupid to be useful, also it doesn't inherit your items so it ends up being really weak

oh right, and can be really good on rg, since it resets the cooldown for bands and safer spaces

[broken shale]

how do bands stack?

[lavish jacinth]

more damage

[broken shale]

:3

worth it?

[lavish jacinth]

totally

btw if you're in a game, you can use the logbook or turn on inspect item in settings to see details on how stuff stacks

[broken shale]

yey, also any ideas on railgunner pillar skip?

guh, i end up dying to the lunar enimies so easily

[lavish jacinth]

you basically just need a lot of attack speed, at least 7 syringes iirc. Then just shoot downwards with your primary and fly up to the top, using mines to boost your momentum

[broken shale]

any advice for just, not dying to those (or is it a skill issue)

[broken shale]

ohhh oki

[wide parrot]

you have a railgun

[lavish jacinth]

use cover as much as you can when moving across the bridge, especially against the flying ones. They'll kill you in an instant if you're not careful but they move really slowly

^ kill them from a distance if you can

[broken shale]

was playing with a friend on monsoon, walked past the ship sheild and just, died

:(

[lavish jacinth]

gotta stay aware of your surroundings

[broken shale]

fair

[lean bramble]

Do you guys have any tips to unlock the False son? i've been trying for two days now, its either i just dont get the seed or the harder boss fight kills me. so if you have any tips could you please tell me?

[mellow crystal]

For the lunar wisps specifically try not to run away too horizontal from them or you'll just end up getting hit more
I made a shitty little graph about it a day or two ago

[lavish jacinth]

The most reliable way is probably just looping until you're overpowered enough that you can just crush the fight with no problem, command/sac/drizzle help too obviously. You'll probably end up looping anyway in order to get the seed.
bringing to delete aurelionite might also not be a bad idea if you don't mind giving up your equip slot for it.

But as far as the fight itself, stay near cover as much as you possibly can and keep track of where the geodes spawn, ideally you try to play near them so you can use them as soon as possible if you get ruin'd or your skills get stolen. Don't worry about dealing constant damage to the boss, it's a bit like mithrix where you wanna wait for openings and then punish him. Try to also keep the golems in check, they can end up being more dangerous than the actual boss if they swarm you at a bad time.

One other thing, minions are absolutely goated for that fight, especially since they respawn on their own. For some reason FS almost always prioritizes them over players, they can sometimes carry the fight just by being a constant distraction

oh and massive protip, there's currently an annoying bug where the laser attack gets stronger every time he uses it, and it carries over between runs unless you restart your game

[broken shale]

in terms of healing + dr on railgunner, what items work best?

[lean bramble]

Okay, thank you so much!

[primal vector]

Ben's raincoat trivializes both ruin and the no skills debuff

[lavish jacinth]

and healing drones are pretty great, can be good too if you're using the alternate scope.
For DR, the usual suspects

[broken shale]

a little confused on medkit, how does it scale (or how much does it heal at base)

[mellow crystal]

20 health + 5% max health iirc
Max health heal increases by 5% per stack, flat health I'm not sure about

[broken shale]

oh okii

[lean bramble]

Thank you all so so much, i didnt even know looping could help yeild the seed!

[broken shale]

what loadout should i use for the railgunner? was thinking all deafult with cyrocharge but not sure

[mellow crystal]

All default with cryocharge is the best one overall yea

Also the most fun one (I hate marksman I hate marksm

[broken shale]

real

[lavish jacinth]

the only ability of hers that I don't really recommend is the alt mines

they're not horrible, but giving up your mobility for an aoe slow isn't a great trade

[broken shale]

true ig

what situations are best for cryocharge then?

[lavish jacinth]

usually using the pierce and freeze to deal with groups of enemies, but really you can use it any time you want something with a little more punch than your primary, like getting a strong band/crowbar proc on bosses

[ocean monolith]

Feather isn’t good on Arti

[ocean monolith]

That’s assuming you find other speed items

[honest badger]

fair

[peak jacinth]

feather is just good

why would it ever be bad on arti

[ocean monolith]

Voids are meant to be sidegrades, but some tend to be way better than others

[ocean monolith]

Remove Brainstalks, Disc, Wake of Vultures, Murn, and Planula and you’d be right

[honest badger]

no

all of those items are good

[peak jacinth]

nah they’re pretty mid, other than urn

disc is ok too

[wide parrot]

Brainstalks Arti is goated. The rest aren’t

[peak jacinth]

but the on elite kill is too conditional for the others to be good and planula being a flat health is just ok

[honest badger]

planula is 3x with free healing, brainstalks and vultures trigger almost constantly late-game, anti disc propaganda is stupid, and murn is just good passive healing

[wide parrot]

Planula is mathematically ass

[honest badger]

that's not how that fucking works

[wide parrot]

if a fucking boss item gets outclassed by a white printer yes it is

[peak jacinth]

mired urn is actually good, planula is not good, also 3 RAP for a yellow is not good lol

[mellow crystal]

If I get as lucky as possible in a run without any mountain shrines or loops I'll get 50 RAPs and one planula

[honest badger]

Dude. You can't sneak the word "mathematically" into your opinions to make them any less intrasubjective.

[mellow crystal]

Planula feels like it should be a green item since it's literally "white item with triple the effect"

[peak jacinth]

planula just has too few use cases to be good all the time tbh

[ocean monolith]

True

[honest badger]

that's not how green items are designed at all

[wide parrot]

3 white items tie with Planula, a boss item.

[ocean monolith]

Don’t pick of Zoea, since it’ll corrupt the Cores

[honest badger]

a stack of 3 white items is barely almost as good as a single stack of planula

[peak jacinth]

that’s not a good place to be

[wide parrot]

hold on are you suggesting AEGIS?!?!

[mellow crystal]

Yeah but some green items are still better/adjusted versions of a certain white item

Planula is a yellow item that's 3 RAPs

[honest badger]

zoea is good on engi for a similar reason to cores since you get item duplication and spawn a ton of void creatures

[mellow crystal]

can my game crash already.mp4

[peak jacinth]

you can’t have both zoea and cores lol

[honest badger]

that's incredibly powerful for the effect it gives

[honest badger]

for bungus engi yes

[wide parrot]

Planula heals 15 HP. RAPs block 5 damage. 3 RAPs = 1 Planula exactly

[honest badger]

yeah?