ror2-game-questions

[quasi crystal]

The patch notes say it's accidental yeh

[lavish jacinth]

personally I always liked that though ngl

[quasi crystal]

Also they claim the timer is only active while a cell is active but people are reporting it's just always on

[lavish jacinth]

it meant there was a permanent consequence to going there even if you only did 1 cell and left immediately, so there was incentive to tough it out for more loot even if the waves got harder

probably causes a ton of issues with path of the colossus routing though

[quasi crystal]

"Consequence " I like my stage 5 scav

[somber pollen]

it really caught me off guard, was just chilling on a drizzle run and went in trying to get a quick red and just died between cell one and two since i had only got two fungus and not a lof of movement items

really feels like it makes it a LOT less worth it to go there at all

[quasi crystal]

Appearantly prime meridian isn't a set stage now?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, they were really trying to amp up the risk, since it was basically free before

[livid wedge]

Yeah, I think the vields changes were pretty fair. The current bug with vields because the counter being incremented fucks up where stuff will appear

Like tier 2 elites showing up on meadows or hatchery because it's now technically a post loop stage number

[lavish jacinth]

that's just part of the risk

[livid wedge]

Or the celestial portal on aqueduct

And the warbonds nerf didn't even address why it was broken

Dealing rapid amounts of % health based damage is waaaaay too strong

I wish unstable transmitter had a long cooldown instead of once per stage would've been fine after they removed the damage gate and reduced the barrier

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, some of the changes were a little odd, I feel like everything's in a much better spot now though

[livid wedge]

I disagree

Additional stacks of lantern or antlers are now strictly worse than just grabbing a syringe or hoof, respectively

[lavish jacinth]

dunno, it seems like the items are overall a lot more in line with pre-sots items, compared to how they were. Not perfect but neither was the base game lol

[lavish jacinth]

antler being "worse" hardly matters honestly, it's got such a big head start over hoof that it takes like 9 stacks for hoof to actually start being better, and at that point you'd probably have more than enough move speed anyway

[livid wedge]

Lantern should provide more AS because it has a caveat

Same antlers

[lavish jacinth]

the lantern nerf was very weird though, no disagreement there

[livid wedge]

Literally no reason to stack anymore than one

Over grabbing their counterparts

[lavish jacinth]

2 antlers is still better than 2 hooves lol

[livid wedge]

Yes, but one hoof and one antler is better than 2 antlers

Is my point

[lavish jacinth]

this exact conversation already happened in one of the feedback threads lol

the difference is so miniscule that it hardly matters

[livid wedge]

Yes it does

[lavish jacinth]

it's a 2% difference, it really doesn't

[livid wedge]

Yes, a 2% difference that also doesn't require you to keep picking up orbs

Items with caveats should always provide better stats than items without

[lavish jacinth]

I guess

but at the same time, it's fine

[livid wedge]

Antlers gets really annoying when a minion picks it up instead and now you lost all your stacks of speed

Hoofs won't give you that issue

[lavish jacinth]

that's valid, but also a different issue

[livid wedge]

I'm just providing an example

I've already made my point. I'm just glad my switch was offline so I can play that without the patch

[lavish jacinth]

and again, I wanna reiterate that overall, the items are in a much better state, compared to how they used to be, where SotS items were basically always better than everything else

[livid wedge]

Yes, transmitter is better

Everything else either didn't address the issue or made the item worse than their counterparts

[lavish jacinth]

alright, whatever

[livid wedge]

Alright, I'm done with that

Now this can return to questions again

I made my point

The burn dot bug fix was great

Glad they got that sorted out

I agree antlers needed a buff but this went too far

[lavish jacinth]

I don't even disagree that it could've been done better, but I don't think that the change is bad enough that it ruins the item or whatever

[livid wedge]

I agree that the items aren't ruined

[onyx scroll]

Kind of unfortunate that the base speed had to be removed as I don't really like the collecting part

[livid wedge]

But I am disincentivized from stacking them over their counterparts now

[onyx scroll]

How long does the speed buff from the orbs last anyway?

[lavish jacinth]

the base speed stacking was the problem, that was what made it entirely better than goat hoof

[lavish jacinth]

12 seconds, and it resets each time you pick up an orb

it's pretty easy to keep it going

[cyan vortex]

Should I use nade or stun thingy on commando?

[onyx scroll]

Fair that's pretty long

[livid wedge]

Yeah, antlers were very much better than hoof

[lavish jacinth]

honestly both are mid, is commando's real special
but otherwise use suppressive if you want a guaranteed stun occasionally, use nades if you want an awkward and kinda weak burst/aoe option

I prefer the nades personally, the reliable stun is nice but apart from that it doesn't do anything that his primary can't (also exists)

[cyan vortex]

Is needle tick any good?

On anyone?

Collapse feels trash when I use it but the enemies collapse is....er

[lavish jacinth]

compared to bleed it deals more damage up front, but stacks worse

[cyan vortex]

Should you get more than one armor plate...or any?

[lavish jacinth]

collapse is good on survivors like Acrid who get a lot of low-damage procs but don't always follow up on them, it really shines when it's capitalizing on random small bits of aoe damage

also good on survivors with heavily lopsided proc rates like bandit or flamethrower arti

[lavish jacinth]

plate is great early on for countering small damage ticks like burn, lesser wisps, stone titan beams etc., but it falls off hard past stage 5 when there's no such thing as a small amount of damage

[lavish jacinth]

this is basically how I view it
tritip:
needletick:
either:
neither (scrap tritip):

and if you've got shatterspleen with decent crit chance, tick is always worth it unless you're railgunner or loader

[weak kettle]

y not huntress in tritip? isnt she also a very proc based survivor?

[lavish jacinth]

because she can also work well with collapse, her proc rates aren't the best and she does have aoe with glaive

plus her autoaim doesn't always like to stick to one target if there are a bunch of enemies grouped up

[weak kettle]

also my question is: as a melee like loader or false son, (even in general) should i expect myself to at least be able to tank some dmg like the fireball volley for a ELDER lemurian or do u just play super safe? like ill be chilling and get hit by a close range fireball and get cooked. it that just lack of defensive items sometimes or i was just gonna die regardless

[lavish jacinth]

melee characters can usually tank a little more than normal, but you shouldn't be expecting to just eat all five lem fireballs to the face

[weak kettle]

i was just trying out a stupid build with my friend but it just catches me off guard sometimes so i did have less defensive items than a normal run

[lavish jacinth]

at the very least keep circlestrafing enemies up close so that they can't hit you, most enemies have limited turn speed.
But ideally you should take advantage of the high mobility that melees usually have, or whatever else they've got in their kit

[weak kettle]

bonking is hard man 😔 false son is so slow with everything my build at that point was just crowdfunder procs bleed for single target dmg lmao

but when i tried to see how much single target dmg i did with a charged slam i just died

[lavish jacinth]

loader barely qualifies as a melee character if you're not playing her as a brawler, she's more like a ranged character but you play as the projectile

merc's got stuns and iframes for days, and can keep his cooldowns almost nonexistent with good use of expose

Acrid always has ranged options and can afford to stay at a distance until you see a good opportunity, use leap to get in and out of fights quickly

FS needs to rely on circlestrafing a little more but his damage output is so ridiculously high that he can usually brute force his way through fights, just save a dash so you can escape if needed

[quasi crystal]

Chef is the best melee

[lavish jacinth]

and for double saw mul-t uh
close your eyes and pray

[weak kettle]

what is his main dmg output? lazer or bonk

i feel too fragile trying to slam everything and why do u say his dmg is so high?

loader and railgunner seem to just have better burst (but no lazer tbf)

[lavish jacinth]

both are insanely good, I think laser has higher damage output overall (but you do have to charge it, don't just tap R) but the club doesn't have a cooldown ofc

[weak kettle]

ig id just have to run some topaz then

[lavish jacinth]

the charged club is a 1500% AoE with a whopping 3.0 proc coeff if you're on the ground
if you slam from the air it's only 1.0, but the radius scales with height

[weak kettle]

like what are the best items for reducing sustained dmg from enemies?

[lavish jacinth]

literally anything

[weak kettle]

i did not know it grew larger from flying

[lavish jacinth]

seriously, false son is unfathomably broken lol

like, he manages to make bison steak a good item with his passive

[lavish jacinth]

movement speed (which false son can get from his passive)

[weak kettle]

how good is the passive? the video i watched just very briefly goes over it but i thought that surely the passive cant justify a basically useless item

[lavish jacinth]

there really aren't a lot of items that will let you tank frequent damage
tougher times works but it's unreliable
RAP works but only for small hits
rose buckler is great but you need to be sprinting

[weak kettle]

thats y topaz the goat 🔥

[lavish jacinth]

it's very, very good lol

I don't care for topaz personally lol

[weak kettle]

D:

[lavish jacinth]

I usually find that when I need barrier, I don't have it, and if I have it, I don't need it

because if I need it, it's probably because I'm not killing things and getting overwhelmed.
I go for speed and damage all the way

but anyway yeah
his passive increases stocks of his secondary and the duration of his laser based on how much bonus health he has from items

extra m2 stocks are great because of all the benefits they give him, extra laser duration is great because the laser is strong already and more duration makes it even stronger

the wiki has all the specific numbers if you want em https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/False_Son

[weak kettle]

yea i just read it

i feel like 4 bison steaks would be decent idk about more tho

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I wouldn't go out of my way to stack tons of them

but I wouldn't scrap them on FS either

[weak kettle]

yea, most of the ui mods were screwing with the command artifact so itd just infinitely give me anything i chose so i couldnt see the stats but it sounds decent

[lavish jacinth]

mods are very broken right now lol

[weak kettle]

4 bison steak = 120% attack speed, 10 armour (woah) and doubles?? beam duration

[austere sierra]

I haven’t play sos a lot yet but I was looking through the new update and it said something about path of the colossus. So could someone tell me what it is it doesn’t seem to be a stage so I think I’m just missing something

[lavish jacinth]

well, it's not A stage

[weak kettle]

i think its where u verse false son? idk

[lavish jacinth]

it's a series of stages that leads to the final boss of sots

[weak kettle]

oh its all those stages

[austere sierra]

Oh

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, those stages collectively are called the path of the colossus

[austere sierra]

The update says there’s a new way to access them so that’s interesting

Thanks

[lavish jacinth]

yep, it was a pain in the ass before

[weak kettle]

whats the new way? also i thought praying to the shrine wasnt exactly a pain

[lavish jacinth]

||there are 3 geodes hidden in the bazaar that you interact with||

[lavish jacinth]

the shrine was the easy part, the problem is that it was very common on stage 1 and very rare everywhere else. So if you didn't wanna go there from stage 1, you just had to hope for good rng to get there

there were a few other ways to get there, but all of them were rng-dependent

[minor wolf]

is this known now?

[lavish jacinth]

yea

look at the messages above yours

[minor wolf]

ic

NEAQT!!!

[empty magnet]

do you know where theyre supposed to be in the bazaar by chance

im there on commando and im trying real hard to find them without dying from fall damage

[lavish jacinth]

they can have a bunch of different spawn locations

[daring cloak]

I myself know of 7 so far

[empty magnet]

can they spawn on any like point in the run? or is stage 4 too late for them to spawn

[daring cloak]

Ye stage 4 is too late I think

[empty magnet]

aw maan

[daring cloak]

It makes sense

[lavish jacinth]

I assume it has to be within the first 3 stages of a loop

[daring cloak]

The sots path only has stages to replace 2 3 and 4

[empty magnet]

i thought it might just take you straight to the boss if youre passed stage 3

[daring cloak]

There is no stage 5 for the path so you'd have no stage to visit if you came from stage 4

[lavish jacinth]

you'll get another chance if you loop though

[empty magnet]

yeah i suppose

howebver i am the number 1 looping hater

[tawdry dock]

Was the error with the lack of a logbook on the alt Disturbed Impact location fixed?

[fresh umbra]

Is this debuff really called beetle juice

[quasi crystal]

yeah

[copper needle]

i've tested ingame and know the "ratio" now for gold <-> xp tho i don't know what it was before

[daring cloak]

I think it was a chest worth of money would convert to 1/8th of a level

[copper needle]

1st stage you need 4 barrel to lvl up meaning 4 times 8G + 4xp and you need 204G to lvl up.

8x4=36
204-36=168
4x4=16
168/16=10.5

So on stage 1 : each 1xp is equal to 10.5 gold and vis versa

tho time and subsequent lvl demande more gold/xp.

[copper needle]

Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice, BEETLE JUICE!

[copper needle]

Just found out what "and others!" means in "Delayed damage ticks can now benefit from items such as Planula and Razorwire (and others!)"

Delayed damage ticks work with :
Razorwire
Roll of Pennies
Repulsion Armor Plate
Planula
Tougher Times
Jade Elephant

[peak jacinth]

should benefit from any armour now no? so would benefit too

[copper needle]

thanks was wandering what other item there are xD

[peak jacinth]

lots of characters with armour will benefit too

[copper needle]

ok a impassible outcome but YES Safer Spaces works as well

[peak jacinth]

well safer spaces would block the original attack, so yea that’s not gonna happen lol

[copper needle]

nah i gave myself 100 safe spaces after triggering warped echoes

and yes Rose Buckler and MUL-T Power Mode does work

So the 10% nerf from the first damage is outweight by the proc of item from the delayed tick

[leaden field]

warped echo works with just about everything in the game that reduces damage

its now extremely good, the ""nerf"" was actually a gigantic buff

[copper needle]

totaly agree

Also the nerf to the Growth Nectar "fixes" a "momentum bug" i had before with 2 or more of them, it felt like every stage was a frozen dungeon.

[peak jacinth]

yea it used to be bugged because it didn’t change your acceleration so you’d slide around

[leaden field]

it might still be bugged actually

it just can't reach as high now stat wise so its not as noticeable

[peak jacinth]

yea it’s only a 16% increase now

[copper needle]

tried to get as high as i could landed on a 11 stack and was fine

[leaden field]

11 stack is still a lot lower than it used to be

11 buffs with 3 nectar is about 52% stat increase

8 buffs with 2 nectar before was a 112% stat increase

considering its a multiplier, thats a GIGANTIC difference

the reason why the sliding felt so noticeable is because the speed increase was so huge comparatively

still, I need to look into seeing if they actually fixed it or not

[peak jacinth]

where’d you get that number from?

shouldn’t it just be 44%

[cobalt obsidian]

at the map mermaid something (forgot the name)
do i get anything besides money for killing the teleporter boss then killing the optional boss?

[leaden field]

correct, my math was wrong, my bad

point still stands though

[cobalt obsidian]

like do i get more boss items?

[leaden field]

the AWU drops a legendary item in the middle of the stage

[cobalt obsidian]

i just found it by pure luck

item was stuck underground

glad i was just walking and saw a random E interaction lol

thanks btw

[peak jacinth]

they clip through the floor all the time yea

[quasi crystal]

hey uh is it me or is this not the right trishop type for hemlinth

[cobalt obsidian]

do i 100% get a red reforger at moon?

im at moon rn and got 3 green scraps

cant find a red reforger

[quasi crystal]

no its all random

[cobalt obsidian]

damn

3 useless green then

[livid wedge]

Yeah, nectar did also need a nerf but I feel it got hit a little too hard

Maybe having just like +1% or +2% per stack in addition to what it does would make it better but not overpowered like it was

[leaden field]

I agree, but I still think people are very much underrating what a stat multiplier does to your stats

I more so think:
Nerfed too much, but its still good

not overpowered now, thankfully

[marble osprey]

Personally I think ideal would be how it is RN but have it affect crit in the same way other all stat boosting things (irradiant pearl, tranquility) does rather than multiplying it

[leaden field]

that would be nice

[livid wedge]

Of course. I would fine if the nectar remained as is. It deserving a little more power is purely an opinion

The unfortunate thing about nectar is that it's worse (or at least before the patch) on railgunner because her passive converted crit chance to crit damage before the nectar could buff it

And to be fair, I haven't actually gotten the nectar in a run since the patch so I can't say how it even feels to have now

Will update when I do

[leaden field]

yeah I haven't gotten it either but considering I always feel a nice bump from a 10% irradiant pearl

I can't imagine it feels that much worse

[leaden field]

a +1% per stack bump would be appreciated I think, a good middle gruond between old and new

[livid wedge]

Unstable is an a fair point now. I would prefer it with a longer cooldown, like 60s or 90s instead of once per stage with it's current effects but it wouldn't be the end of the world if it stayed as is

And additional stacks could increase the time of the teleport area around you or increase barrier health

So you can't stack to reduce the cooldown to silly levels

[placid mauve]

It took over 47 or something to get it below 8 seconds before

[livid wedge]

The wiki said it was hard capped at a certain amount but I never tested that

[livid wedge]

Yeah, but having a little more effect instead of slightly better cooldown seems like a good reason to stack it without making it dumb

You have a fair point, though

[placid mauve]

The cooldown was the only reason to stack it and since the common ratio is 0.9 it takes a lot of greens to do so it was fine

[livid wedge]

Also fair

[placid mauve]

Nerfing the barrier amount is reasonable, but not making it consumable

[livid wedge]

It should definitely be higher than the 45s, though

With how good it is

I think 60s-90s is reasonable enough

Unlikely to trigger twice in a prolonged fight but you still get another chance on a stage

Actually, 90s would be great since that's the teleporter charge time

[placid mauve]

I just checked, it was 48 I think (I had 49 in the run but I think I accidentally took one too many)

[livid wedge]

Yeah. It doesn't need to have how it stacks change but I was just putting it out there in case it was a middle ground between having as a single stage use and cooldown

[quiet prawn]

Are Halcyonites supposed to still be able to attack while frozen

[leaden field]

definitely not

[livid wedge]

If an enemy can be frozen, then it should not be taking actioms

However, some attacks have a windup that can't be stopped

Like brass contraptions attack

[quiet prawn]

Ah, so the laser and the spin attack would still go?

[livid wedge]

Yeah, but they probably shouldn't honestly

They do wind up

[quiet prawn]

Alright thanks, just lost a run because I didn't know that 😭

[livid wedge]

[leaden field]

Yeah I would call that more of a bug on the halcyonite side of things cause it looks so janky

[peak jacinth]

definitely, almost 30% at 1 stack was a bit much, but 16% is a bit low

it probably would’ve been fine if one of its scaling properties were removed and nothing else was changed

[wooden escarp]

||has anyone found the secret way to enter the path yet?||

[livid wedge]

#ror2-game-questions message

[wooden escarp]

danke!

[livid wedge]

Anyone know ||where the geodes are in the bazaar? I can't seem to find them.||

[steady stone]

i would assume they have random spawns like newt altar kinda? ive heard they "havent spawned" while coming in and out of this channel, which i would assume is that

i still need to get around to playing myself, but ive been trying to keep filled in

[livid wedge]

weird

[summer flint]

is there any other way to get to prime meridian i forgot to og throuhg portal

my friend saidd you can get there from bazaar

[steady stone]

5% chance from lunar seer, and ||something with geodes in the bazaar to guarantee it||

[summer flint]

yeah my friend told me aboiut the thing i nthe spoiler

but i dont know what it is or where it is

[steady stone]

they just spawn around, ive seen them like on ledges and someone said one was under the portal

so probably have to drop down
you cant die from the fall without frailty tho

just be careful with watches

some photos from around here

i can imagine the wiki will get them all soon

[summer flint]

ok

[summer flint]

dont see them anywhere

ive checked 2 bazaars including stage 5 one

[marble osprey]

If I had to guess they'll only show up in the shop if there's a corresponding path of Colossus stage to go to, and since path of Colossus only has a stage 2, 3, and 4, it'll probably only show up in the bazaars after stages 1, 2, or 3

[daring cloak]

So far I've found 7 different locations

None of them inside the bazaar itself and all of them able to be seen and destroyed while standing still in specific locations

You just gotta look REALLY hard for some of them

[frail dust]

How do I figure out how to get a god run going? I tried to do the 20 stages with no lunar items challenge for Commando. I set the game to easy and used artifact of Command, Sacrifice, Swarm, and I picked up all repulsion armor plates and razorwire. Made it to stage 15 or 16 before dying. Looking for a build or builds that are stronger than that as I'm new to the game.

[high forum]

If you haven't unlocked all the items yet, you'll probably want to try doing that first to expand the item pool

[frail dust]

I'm playing without any expansions currently, and I have unlocked almost all the items available. I just don't know what makes a build extremely powerful, enough to go through 20 stages. Is something focused purely on dps and lifesteal better than all armor plates and razorwire?

I just tried those two based on a youtube video I saw

[supple vale]

Max crit and harvesters

[frail dust]

I guess I need to figure out the math on stacking items (I'm assuming some sort of diminishing return happens). Is there a good resource to figure that out?

[marble osprey]

Generally speaking, stacking different kinds of damage will be more effective than just one thing

[trim lynx]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_2_Wiki is good

[marble osprey]

Because yeah most items do have diminishing returns
If something gives +20% more damage per stack, that takes you from 100% to 120% on the first stack, which is a 20% increase, but the second only takes you from 120% to 140%, which is only a 17% total increase, and then the next is 14%, and so on

[peak jacinth]

it’s moreso because damage ups are multiplicative, but diminishing returns is another good reason

[marble osprey]

Those are the same reason just worded differently, they're diminishing because they're not multiplicative

[peak jacinth]

Um I guess so? it’s just not a great way to explain it then

because you don’t just stack different items because they don’t have diminishing returns you get different items because each item makes the others better

[marble osprey]

Yeah but that would also be the case of taking more of the same items if they didn't have diminishing returns
You're thinking of it as explaining why one is better, I'm explaining it as why one is worse, but it's the same thing

[peak jacinth]

I’m moreso thinking of which is a more intuitive way of thinking about it, it’s generally harder for people to grasp diminishing returns than it is items being multiplicative

but yea you’re not wrong

[scarlet kestrel]

hello, i heard from a friend that the symbiotic scorpion dlc item is basically useless, because since the enemies have no defense, the buff doesn't apply to them and doesn't make them take more damage, is that true?

he added that it can be a good item against bosses, as they have armor, however, it is useless otherwise

[vast rampart]

they are incredibly wrong

[scarlet kestrel]

so, the enemies have armor?

or take more damage?

[marble osprey]

They're right that the enemies don't have armor, but they're wrong about the result bc it can make them have negative armor, which makes them take more damage

It is also better against bosses, but it's not useless against normal enemies

[hoary sedge]

same deal with shattering justice btw

[vast rampart]

shattering justice is better for burst characters like loader and railgunner scorpion very good for characters like commando nail gun mult and viend

[keen parcel]

How to get artifacts?

[lavish jacinth]

there's a big machine on stage 5 that you have to interact with, either underneath sky meadows or at the top of helminth hatchery.

From there you'll need to input a code that corresponds to an artifact, there'll be one code on a big stone tablet right next to the machine as an example and the rest are hidden throughout the game, usually on similar tablets. Put the code in and it'll take you to a trial where you unlock the artifact

the wiki also has all the codes if you don't feel like looking for them, plus a hint guide if you want to find them yourself but need help https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts

[keen parcel]

Thankss dude

[frail dust]

I varied my item build and made it through stage 20 no problem. Thanks, guys.

Infusion seems really good, is it not?

Also, is there a cap to attack speed? At some point I just started taking syringes for all my white items because I didn't know what else to take.

[mellow crystal]

it's alright but it falls off
100 health at level 1 is really good because it's basically doubling your health but 100 health at level 20 is like a 13% increase
plus, enemies will eventually end up scaling faster than you, especially on Monsoon, so defensive items in general end up being less impactful, especially if you're looping and everything kills you in one or two shots anyway

[marble osprey]

^
Compared to something like opal, which halves the damage taken (effectively doubling your health), it's not great

[marble osprey]

Kinda, but it's really high, and attack speed is very jank in this game

[lavish jacinth]

it varies a lot, and its effectiveness drops off hard due to rounding issues. If you're picking up syringes and aren't getting any noticeable difference from them, it's probably time to stop

[marble osprey]

As for what to stack instead once you kinda run out of things you want for white items, watches are good for just straight damage, gasoline is good bc it increases both the radius and the damage so eventually it'll just start hitting the whole map whenever you kill something, and grabbing a key every stage so you get free greens/reds/voids is always nice

[peak jacinth]

sticky bomb is another nice one to stack until you reach the limit for your character given you don’t want to put all your eggs in the watch basket

[honest badger]

some enemies do have armor though

golems i think, as well as certain elites

[marble osprey]

I don't believe that's correct, and wiki says it's only boss monsters
Twisted elites can give their allies armor, but don't have it themselves

[honest badger]

hmm maybe

[mellow crystal]

a few weeks ago i was messing around with a mod that allows you to configure enemy and survivor stats and surprisingly there are like no enemies with armor, including stuff like stone golems and alpha constructs
tho iirc the stone titan does have 20 armor, and the xi construct has like 15

so yea it's most likely only bosses that get armor, which makes sense since damage reduction on regular enemies would be kind of annoying

[olive spade]

I think it was a necessary change, void fields are so good that my friend didnt even want to go there cause he said it felt like cheesing

[high sparrow]

why on earth is this little guy making noises?

800 hours in and i've NEVER seen this

[mellow crystal]

the only downside to void fields pre-rework was how fucking boring it is ngl

[mellow crystal]

probably has to do with this

[olive spade]

yea unless enemies get some crazy items its just sitting there for free items

[honest badger]

it's actually the newt doing it but the voice is coming from the wrong position

[high sparrow]

figured

how odd

[normal fractal]

Is halcyonite meant to fly now? Why does it have like 5 billion health past stage 1 (specifically in multiplayer probably)?

[quasi crystal]

Don't solus probes have armor

[mellow crystal]

surprisingly yeah
10

[honest badger]

yep according to suncles

[mellow crystal]

flying during the spinny attack is intended behavior yea
no idea about the insane mp scaling tho

[honest badger]

probably just bc it has high base hp

[normal fractal]

Like I just had a game where we killed the 3x mountain shrine tele boss in 30 seconds where halc took like 5 minutes

[honest badger]

i guess flying halcyonite was too cool to pass up

[quasi crystal]

Flying halc is cool

[south scaffold]

Has anyone else had their Unstable Transmitter just... not activate since the update??
I've had quite a couple moments where I would've otherwise survived, but for some reason it just doesn't go off. It's rather baffling.
-# I might just not understand the changes to it I guess...

(Plus I may as well ask again about Disturbed Impact now that we've had a bit more time.)

[quasi crystal]

It's not blocking death anymore i.think

[south scaffold]

That's bothersome...

sigh I'll miss you old Transmitter (but not the OLD old Transmitter).

[honest badger]

it doesn't give osp anymore

lethal damage won't trigger it

[south scaffold]

Sad.

-# Boy do I wish I had understood that change fully before losing two fairly decent runs thinking “Oh! Transmitter will save me if I mess up!”

[onyx scroll]

Didn't get to realize its potential before it was brutally taken from us

also no I don't think there's answer yet if disturbed impact log works

[mellow crystal]

this is why i always check my favorite items in the patch notes before playing an update tbh

[quasi crystal]

I just died without consuming elixirs til that can happen

[lavish jacinth]

elixir has never been able to save you from lethal hits
I think they did used to always get consumed after you died though? So that could be new

[quasi crystal]

The latter is what i meant

[lavish jacinth]

would make sense if they changed that, now that there are more revives in the game

[versed zenith]

I need urgent help

Is there anyway to get back into the newt alter if you piss him off?

I left 12 ignition tanks on the floor, shot him once to check what the damage difference would be, and now they're lost to me

[honest badger]

nope

[versed zenith]

There's gotta be a seam somewhere I can clip through, surely

[wind kernel]

sometimes it doesnt get consumed

I dont know if its a lag thing, cause my solo runs always get consumed but multiplayer with 250ms+ ping sometimes doesnt get consumed

[fair rock]

They still get consumed if you take a lethal hit

[fair rock]

Even if there was, it's not an invisible wall. The moment you get into the radius which the bazaar is, you're teleported out

If they were smart about how they coded it it's probably gonna be a spherical radius like everything else in the game, so

[cedar pine]

What were the major changes to the false son boss fight

[sacred ingot]

any mod users having problems w picking up items after the update?

i'm trying to pinpoint which mod is causing this but i have too many to individually test each

[steady stone]

Try LookingGlass

[scarlet kestrel]

is there a website or channel that shows character builds?

[slim spoke]

no.

[steady stone]

The wiki.gg has some general info, but most characters are "proc" or "burst"

Burst doing well with like crowbars and kjaros, or total damage things like ATG, while proc does good with chances, like tritip

A lot of it depends on proc coeff (aka chance multiplier) which can also be found on the wiki.gg for every attack

[slim spoke]

the above can also be found on risk of resources webpage

[steady stone]

Like commando shoots fast and has a coeff of 1 so base chance, but viend corrupt beam has a coeff of 0.625 so lower, even though it hits fast

[dry roost]

whats the new way to get to the path of colossus

[slim spoke]

it doesnt change tbh

[ionic igloo]

Bazaar

[astral arrow]

im having difficulty with the new false son laser. i hide behind the pillar but then he walks and just kills me, am i supposed to jump from one pillar to the next while the laser is on me?

[mellow crystal]

Basically yeah
The fact that the laser's origin doesn't move anymore and is outside the arena makes it surprisingly fun and convenient to play around

[astral arrow]

i see

thx

[livid wedge]

The laser just locked onto me the moment I wasn't behind a pillar and dealt enough damage to trigger transmitter before I got to the next

How are you supposed to avoid damage?

[mellow crystal]

By getting behind cover, simple as that
And the new laser gives you plenty of time for it, really, especially since son disappears while it charges up

[livid wedge]

No, I mean once I am behind cover and false son starts to come to me

Trying to move to the next pillar nearly killed me

It felt just as deadly as the prepatch laser but now I have the false son actively chasing me to beat me down

[livid scroll]

since they changed the void fields, when you complete all the fields does the time stop or no?

[livid wedge]

Yeah, time stops again once all cells are cleared

[fresh umbra]

The laser increases in damage the longer it’s in use, regardless of whether it hits you or not. As for dodging, idk

[livid wedge]

Oh good, so that by the time the false is close enough that I need to switch pillars, the lasers damage has amped up enough to kill me for trying to get to another pillar

[analog brook]

Tip: false son doesn't attack while laser is up

[livid wedge]

Hmm

Things were hectic, maybe I just thought he was going to

He definitely moved toward me

[analog brook]

Yea he does that, it's a GIANT scare tactic (definitely got me killed a few times because I was so scared I left the pillar lol)

[gilded dirge]

Tick for bandit yes?

rifle bandit*

[hollow siren]

||what are the spawn locations for the bazaar geodes||?

[quasi crystal]

I don't like rifle bandit

[ocean notch]

i'm looking for tips on how to do expose transfer on mercenary, how tight is the window exactly? i can only do it about 5% of the time and i've tried every possible timing, i don't know what i'm doing wrong

[honest badger]

how are you supposed to dodge wisps

[analog brook]

Ok apparently that isn't true...?????? It worked on my 3 other fights, this time on eclipse and he DID attack during laser. Might be an eclipse thing? Previously he just walked around but didn't bonk me or noin

[peak jacinth]

both shotgun and rifle bandit prefer tick

[analog brook]

Circling them at medium-ish range or Goin below and past them while they're shotting works for me (:

[peak jacinth]

tri-tip is better on rifle, but I think it still runs out during reload, could be wrong on that tho

[analog brook]

And it isn't dealing damage to me sometimes... Yea eclipse >7 laser is definitely fishy..

[quasi crystal]

The laser hasn't been an issue for me in e8

[turbid hinge]

my first moonson clear

[livid wedge]

Nice job 🐀

[rigid spade]

does mithrix get revives if you have dios?

[high forum]

nope

[rigid spade]

alright thank you

[haughty spire]

If I have 34 plasma shrimp, 2 pocket ICBMs, and I’m playing as engineer, how many missiles is that? Per attack roughly, I think my math is off but I got like 460

[quasi crystal]

Is captain lowkey a bit weak against false son or am I ass? Seems hella hard to beat without great movement when gunning straight for him. But im not sure how to properly loop or flip my run into the storm. I feel like it'd be better to go the long route and gain a formidable item count to fight him but then i can basically get one shot cuz the lvl and difficulty scaling at that point. (Suffering for the alt skin mb)

[lavish jacinth]

3 missiles per hit

Stacking icbm and shrimp doesn't increase the number of missiles, only their damage

[haughty spire]

🥲

[honest badger]

mithrix gives all your items back before dying

[rigid spade]

forgor

[gilded dirge]

how to "activate" h4ed? aka how to have it to the super jump

cuz the stomp I get, just that jump is so random

[wide parrot]

after using the stomp the jump boost goes on cooldown for 10 seconds

[gilded dirge]

yeah but how do I activate the jump boost itself

[wide parrot]

you jump

it's automatic

[gilded dirge]

it doesnt work

[honest badger]

do you mean the groundpound? you don't activate the jump boost at all

[gilded dirge]

ive had games with h4ed where I jump so far up I reset back to the ground cuz I hit the ceiling, but its such an infrequent thing that happens

[quasi crystal]

That's trimping

[lavish jacinth]

That's called trimping, you have to hit a slope with high enough speed. A wax quail is usually all you need for it

It's not really a mechanic specific to headstompers, it's just a quirk of the physics engine. Some movement abilities can do it on their own, notably mercs whirlwind and commandos roll

[mellow crystal]

he does sometimes actually
mostly in phase 3 since that's when his summon spikes -> summon laser pattern gets fucked up

[quasi crystal]

Qwp already found out the hard way

[quasi crystal]

Both no longer work without mods though right

[honest badger]

trimping works

[marble osprey]

They work less, and a bit differently, but they do still work
Although I think it can make you take fall damage now with whirlwind and probably others

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[lavish jacinth]

• I should add that quail by itself doesn't trimp, it's specifically the quail+stompers combo

[quasi crystal]

Ah ok. Though It surely did not early into sots so mb

[gleaming remnant]

Do the bazaar geodes not appear if you go right after stage 3?

[timber lynx]

Does acrid poison work with noxious thorn?

[mellow crystal]

it's a debuff yes

[copper needle]

the geodes appears only the first two possible bazzar stage 2 & 3, it won't apear after that if you ant more there is a guide about it on steam

[gleaming remnant]

Aw I was hoping you could beat stage 3, go to bazaar, and then use the geode portal to go right to meridian. Guessing treeborn is impossible to skip then

[cyan vortex]

Are Tri tip daggers and stickies affected by luck at all?

[quasi crystal]

yes

but once they reach 100% luck doesnt matter

[cyan vortex]

Oki...purity...

So with purity, should you double your stacks?

[steady stone]

Not quite, there's formulas with it
Generally with purity just avoid proc unless you have a guaranteed proc

Since purity and clover affect luck, which are just rerolling the effects
If you have 100% chance, and you hit it, rolling again for a worse effect will do nothing

[olive spade]

if you have 20 sticky bombs (100%) but you use an attack with a less than 1 proc coefficient does it then proceed to get affected by purity or is it like 100% crit? Because I heard if you have 100% crit then the proc coefficient doesnt matter?

[steady stone]

Proc coeff is a multiplier, luck is a reroll

So viends 0.625 * 10% tritip is 6.25, for example
(Unless I did that math wrong in my head, but you get the point)

[olive spade]

so with 20 sticky bombs it would be a 62.5% that would then be affected by luck, but do proc coefficients also multiply crit, making void fiend's attack have a 62.5% crit chance with 100% crit?

[lavish jacinth]

crit chance is unaffected by proc coeff because it's a character stat

[olive spade]

ohh ok thanks

[daring cloak]

Has anyone tested how the fs laser behaves when there are 2 false sons through the artifact of swarms?

Like do they both stop attacking, can one attack regularly while the other uses the laser or can they both use the laser at the same time

[analog brook]

It's kinda weird because I did see that in one of my 3 recent fights he did bonk me while the laser was up, unsure if that's intentional or a glitch... Or an eclipse thing

[livid wedge]

I knew I wasn't crazy!

[daring cloak]

Its that time again. I need someone to check if this works on pc

[pine inlet]

prolly

opening game rn

[daring cloak]

I've had "prolly" situations before that somehow turned out to be console exclusive

Gotta know for sure

[pine inlet]

yup

[indigo glade]

Hi everyone, I have a question that is driving me crazy

So I wanted to fight Twiptwip with my buddy and after a few runs trying and testing, I noticed that Beads of Fealty simply do not spawn in multiplayer. Or at least they don't seem to. I even used the ol trick of infinite lunar coins to reroll dozens of times per Bazar and never saw a single Beads of Fealty while playing multiplayer

Then I searched about this on the wiki and even on google, and there is 0 information online if the beads are disabled on multiplayer. So I'm not even sure of what's happening

[lavish jacinth]

were you playing eclipse?

[indigo glade]

Can anyone answer with certainty on this?

[daring cloak]

Beads do exist in multiplayer

[indigo glade]

Oh... yes... I was

[lavish jacinth]

yep, that would be why

[indigo glade]

We only play Eclipse

[daring cloak]

Also fyi you dont always fight tw- ok yeah thats it

[lavish jacinth]

they can't spawn in eclipse since you can't obliterate yourself

[daring cloak]

You cant obliterate in the first place in eclipse

[indigo glade]

Oh wow ok, I didn't know that lmao

[daring cloak]

Eclipse forces you to fight mithrix

[indigo glade]

That explains a lot thanks

[daring cloak]

Every other ending is either disabled or moved to after mithrix

[indigo glade]

You can't fight Voidling either?

[daring cloak]

Only after mithrix by petting the glass frog 10 times instead of charging the ship (the glass frog will appear where you spawn in after mithrix has been killed)

[indigo glade]

You can't access Voidling through Void Fields either? Cuz now that I think about it I never tried ever since we started Eclipse

[daring cloak]

Nope vields doesnt let you go to voidling

Only the glass frog because you have to kill mithrix anyways to use it

[indigo glade]

Ok good to know, thanks

Actually bonus question now that I think about, when trying that fight on multiplayer, does only 1 player need to have Beads or all of us have to?

[daring cloak]

Only one player

[indigo glade]

And that player needs to be the one to choose to obliterate right

[daring cloak]

Not sure but you should probably do it that way just in case

[indigo glade]

aight, thanks

[inner prawn]

Uhh I'm at false son on seeker and the difficulty is at lv 20, I picked up a boomerang soup but could trade it in for RAPs, should I?

[kind citrus]

what's the best way to farm for the demons and the crabs achievement

[wide parrot]

Get a primordial cube and loop until you get Titanic Plains as stage 6

Don’t kill the crabs, just use the cube to send em off

[fresh umbra]

And avoid items or drones that automatically attack or could otherwise unintentionally kill the crabs

Like ukelele

[trim lynx]

uke shouldnt be too bad

moreso stuff like tesla coil

[fresh umbra]

True

[trim narwhal]

haha a bit late but depends on rest of ur build

if it takes u down to taking like nothing per tick it might be worth

especially if razorwire or bands etc

[willow widget]

whats the best items for mercanary?

[nocturne sierra]

Focus crystal, backup mag, shuriken, anything to do with movement and/or attack speed

[willow widget]

whats the best way to do 20 abilitys in 10 seconds

@nocturne sierra

[wide parrot]

Purity

[nocturne sierra]

Probably, uhh, alien head, purity like mercenary said, and backup mag, lystate cell, and that one red that gives you two extra utility

[lavish jacinth]

You don't need much, you can do it itemless with good use of expose

When I did it it took less than a minute iirc, it's way easier than it sounds

But yeah, backup mags and anything that gives cooldown reduction if you're really struggling with it

Also, every time you swing your sword it counts as an ability, so attack speed helps too

[fast holly]

hey fellas im currently in the bazar and I destroyed 3 golden beacons or halcyoon beacons (whatever they're called) and a text appeard in my chat saying: you hear thunder rumbling / the storm beckons.

Im fairly new to the game... do you know what it could be ?

[wide parrot]

Take the green portal that spawned

That’s the alternate path to the Path of the Colossus for the Seekers of the Storm DLC

[fast holly]

ahhhh ok ok

[magic wasp]

can scavengers spawn on helminth hatchery past stage 5 like how they do on meadows?

[quasi crystal]

yes

[light shadow]

if you have the Beads of Fealty and obliterate it doesnt count towards mastery??

[livid wedge]

It should as long as you also defeat the twisted scav

[light shadow]

yeah did it now couldnt make it the first time, chef my beloved was super underpowered

[steel spoke]

can you get sadist with mithrix ?

i killed him with 20 stack of hemmorhage but it didnt work smh so i wonder what did i do wrong

[lavish mesa]

So I've been playing for a while, but whenever I go to sundered grove or abyssal depths the legendary chest spawn locations get replaced with a pressure plate thing. I was wondering what it does? After hitting the three pressure plates on sundered grove it says "You notices vines twisting and growing", but nothing happens that I've noticed. It's not caused by artifact of sacrifice, as I've been trying. I'm completely lost as to what it does.

[daring cloak]

That is definitely from a mod

[high forum]

yup, definitely mod stuff

[swift heath]

My buddie cant see me inside of the multiplayer lobby, and when they load in they cant see me and their UI is bugged. Any fixes?
Bug happens in modded & unmodded game

[hoary sedge]

do either of you have crossplay enabled

if so turn it off

[fervent ledge]

Whats the best way to go about getting the shard for the false son unlock ?
I got it once and it got removed by a another item I had mid boss fight

Yeah that 🥲

[mellow crystal]

personally my route is to go to the bazaar every stage by grabbing a newt altar so i can try to get to gilded coast via lunar seers

[fervent ledge]

So just search every round for a newt yeah ?

[mellow crystal]

yea

[fervent ledge]

Alright thank you 🙏
The gold altars it talks about seem to be almost non existent

[leaden field]

just go to the bazaar a lot, it tends to crop up there often

[honest badger]

gold altars ARE basically nonexistent before looping

even after looping it's incredibly rare

the second best way is to do POTC normally, halcyon shrines can spawn in reformed altar or treeborn colony that take you to gilded coast

[fervent ledge]

I find the shrines only ever spawn for me on the first stage

[graceful dust]

@pale breach wasnt that fun

[versed orbit]

What’s the easy way to do the crab achievement

[honest badger]

play rex and enable artifacts of dissonance, swarm and kin

restart until you get hermit crabs stage 1

also restart if it's on the snow map

[dusky raven]

Doesn't work don't try it

just drizzle and loop to titanic plains

[honest badger]

?

[dusky raven]

kin wont do crabs

[honest badger]

oh what

[dusky raven]

yup

[honest badger]

nvm then

[dusky raven]

makes the achievement even harder and more annoying

no easy way to go about it it sucks

[honest badger]

why i cheated it

[torn palm]

Anyone got any idea why when i go to the multiplayer menu my game drops to like 1fps and it stutters and freezes when i move my mouse around?

[steady stone]

Only while moving your mouse? My friend had a similar issue for some other games, he ended up having to reinstall his drivers. If not, they probably just need an update.

[torn palm]

yea its when im in the multiplayer menu, regular menu is fine, and iv just updated all my drivers and anything that could possibly be causing it

but still stutters and freezes like crazy

an then have to alt tab in and out to un freeze my mouse on the menu screen

[steady stone]

Unmodded? I'd probably try verifying the files on steam next, since it fixes like 50/50 of problems

[quasi crystal]

recently false sons (boss) laser has been just not firing? has this happened to anyone else

[torn palm]

yea its un modded, and iv verified integ but still fried, even un installed and re installed

[steady stone]

Uninstalled via the button or file deletion?

[torn palm]

full wipe of the game

[steady stone]

Steam does this weird thing where hitting "uninstall" doesn't fully uninstall it. Clean install means you have to delete the folder, but this will also delete your settings

[torn palm]

un installed/deleted files

[steady stone]

yeah that sounds like something more with the computer, which would be harder to tell

[torn palm]

Yea more than likely, its just weird i was playing it 3 days ago perfectly fine, then now i cant even run the game without it freezing every 2 seconds

[lavish jacinth]

Just an idea, if you hit ctrl + alt + ~ you can enable the dev console, maybe try opening it while in the multiplayer menu to see if anything weird pops up? Might give a clue as to what's going on.

Also, turn crossplay off if you haven't already. I've never heard of it causing this issue specifically, but istg 90% of problems on PC can be solved by turning off crossplay

and if all else fails #ror2-tech-support might be able to help (check pins first), but responses there are usually pretty slow

[torn palm]

Cheers ill give it a go if all else fails i can launch my pc at the wall

[wind kernel]

Loop to stage 6 titanic plains, farm it with rex

[livid wedge]

Or with

[wind kernel]

True but cooldown too long

Tho u can just use command and stack bunch of fuel cell

[livid wedge]

Yeah, that's what I was going for

[versed orbit]

I don’t have Rex 😦

[lavish jacinth]

you don't need him

really it doesn't matter what character you play since crabs naturally run away from you, you just need to chase them off. It just goes a little faster if you have a knockback ability

although I wouldn't really recommend engineer since turrets or spider mines could easily kill crabs accidentally if you're not careful

[gilded dirge]

what items should I strive to go for as Engi?

[slim spoke]

generally bustling fungus and spare drone parts
drones inherit your items btw if you didnt notice

[lavish jacinth]

are particularly notable, but otherwise you can mostly build him as a proc character

[slim spoke]

does the sdp rockets even synergize with icbm

[lavish jacinth]

oh and

[lavish jacinth]

they synergize with his own missiles

[slim spoke]

on that topic,

[gilded dirge]

damn, I guess the turrets get to do the aoe

[slim spoke]

a lot

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think icbm works with sdp but I'd have to double check

[slim spoke]

twisted tongues

[lavish jacinth]

turrets are basically a disposable clone of yourself

lol

[gilded dirge]

[lavish jacinth]

too many acronyms

[slim spoke]

that fires bullets instead of whatever youre spewing

[lavish jacinth]

disposable clones that can't move and have commando's primary, essentially

[slim spoke]

thats mando m1?

[lavish jacinth]

it's similar

about the same damage with lower fire rate

[slim spoke]

i thought they'd do smth like 125% dmg

[lavish jacinth]

nah

[slim spoke]

aight

[lavish jacinth]

iirc they only do 70%, but they actually have higher base damage than engie himself, so it ends up being equivalent to 100% of engie's base damage
(which is also slightly higher than normal)

idk what hopoo was doing when they decided on engie's stats lol

[inner prawn]

nah 100% base damage

[lavish jacinth]

that's what it says ingame but it's technically incorrect

[inner prawn]

huh, wacky

[slim spoke]

lmao

[trim narwhal]

breaching fins also, they have their own cd but increase dmg from all sources + turrets autoaim so

[livid wedge]

It does not

@analog brook and I tested

[trim narwhal]

youll also get 3x tesla coils active

[honest badger]

doesn't matter, bubble shield

[lavish jacinth]

counterpoint, bubble shield sucks

[honest badger]

it's better than thermal

[lavish jacinth]

not even close lol

[honest badger]

yeah, it's by far

[lavish jacinth]

having an actual attack that works and deals decent damage > bubble shield that kinda sometimes works if it feels like it and requires you to stand in a tiny bubble and not move

[honest badger]

bubble shield is extremely consistent and allows for a lot of movement wdym /gen

[inner prawn]

What are the exact requirements to achieve 100% Calculated? (Killing a tp boss in 5 seconds) I'm attempting it and even using a tricorn to kill the boss hasn't worked

[lavish jacinth]

just kill it within 5 seconds of the healthbar showing up, if there are multiple bosses they all have to be dead

[inner prawn]

Well huh, something might be wrong then

[lavish jacinth]

with tricorn you have to deal damage to the boss at least once first for it to count though (it works that way with arti's version of the achievement at least)

[honest badger]

yeah the boss includes the whole healthbar, not one boss

[inner prawn]

Nah I grabbed a tricorn stage one with command it was just a beetle queen

[honest badger]

maybe it doesn't count as your kill otherwise bc you didn't do damage...

[lavish jacinth]

nah, tricorn definitely works

I know that with arti killing a boss in 1 second or whatever you have to damage them first, because the achievement starts a timer as soon as they take damage

I don't think engie needs to do it since the timer should start as soon as the boss spawns, and tricorn kills still count as your kill, but maybe you still do idk

[inner prawn]

I had my turrets hit the boss this time before I tricorned. nothin

[lavish jacinth]

dunno

broken post-sots maybe?

[inner prawn]

Maybe yeah

[gilded dirge]

how to deal with prime meridian laser

its like not the easiest to stay in cover when shits flying at you, including the boss

[lyric silo]

turn on godmode clearly

[gilded dirge]

[spiral inlet]

Is it possible to beat false son twice in a run ? or does the green pillar don't spawn after the first time you beat him ?

[lyric silo]

no idea

[undone scaffold]

Guys

I need help

[lyric silo]

u can maybe check on the wiki

[lyric silo]

what with?

[undone scaffold]

My game is lagging for no reason after dlc

[lyric silo]

whats ur temps while playing?

[undone scaffold]

Temps?

[lyric silo]

are u on pc?

[undone scaffold]

Yea

[lyric silo]

do u know how to check ur hardware temperature?

[undone scaffold]

No, but te game laggs if it is has a stop motion feature on

[lyric silo]

like rlly bad lag?

[undone scaffold]

Yes, its like a ping

[lyric silo]

wdym

[undone scaffold]

Like its should be
............
But its
. . . . . . .

[lyric silo]

so its half the frames per second it should be?

[undone scaffold]

Yesss

[lyric silo]

hmmm

[undone scaffold]

Do you know how to fix that i am desperate

[lyric silo]

the first thing id reccommend is to verify the integrity of the game files if you know how to do that

[undone scaffold]

😅nope dont know. But i bought it on steam

[lyric silo]

right click ur game

in the library on steam

wait nvm

click on properties instead

then in the menu that pops up click 'installed files'

then click 'verify integrity of game files'

[undone scaffold]

Done

3 files failed to validate

[lyric silo]

that should be fine

now re load up the game and see if its fixed

[undone scaffold]

Wait....

[lyric silo]

whats up?

[undone scaffold]

wazz up in how i am or if the game works

[lyric silo]

if the game works

[undone scaffold]

Nope

[lyric silo]

same issue?

[undone scaffold]

Yea

[lyric silo]

you got any mods on?

[undone scaffold]

Naaa

[lyric silo]

go into settings and go to video ingame

[fast harness]

What is this thing? It was immortal

[undone scaffold]

I already sett evrything to minimal and it didnt change nuthing in graphics

[lyric silo]

is ur fps cap set to 30?

[undone scaffold]

waiiitt i didnt look

[lyric silo]

these are mine, ur fps limit should show 60 probably

[undone scaffold]

I tgink i found out problem

[lyric silo]

whats the issue?

[undone scaffold]

I cant put my finger on it but when i put my Resolution to garabge it stopped the weird fps thing

[lyric silo]

try turning off or on fullscreen

[undone scaffold]

How?

[lyric silo]

in the video settings ingame

see if that changes anything

[undone scaffold]

Ok

It dosent lag if i make the Resolution minimal, in ither words i am back to risk of rain one.

[lyric silo]

but does changing from fullscreen and vice versa while at native resolution fix it?

[lyric silo]

also what are ur pc specs?

[undone scaffold]

nope. I dont know what specs are

[lyric silo]

press the windows key and type in 'task manager'

[undone scaffold]

yea in it

[lyric silo]

show me a screenshot of whats in the tab labeled 'performance'

[undone scaffold]

Big problem. I am german

[lyric silo]

oh.

i think i see ur issue

[undone scaffold]

what?

[lyric silo]

ur running the game on integrated graphics

its a hardware issue

[undone scaffold]

????

[lyric silo]

did you have good performance before dlc?

[undone scaffold]

Yea. I used aanother pc though...

[lyric silo]

yeah then its ur pc thats the issue

[undone scaffold]

what about it??

[lyric silo]

you need 'graphics card'

it basically allows ur pc to generate more frames

[undone scaffold]

But utrakill was smooth

I thought ror2 would be kinda same level

[lyric silo]

it cost money, if you know anyone good with tech ask them abt it cause im not abt to explain the ins and outs of graphics processors

[lyric silo]

nah ror2 is a bit more demanding

[undone scaffold]

dont

[undone scaffold]

uff

[lyric silo]

ive done it before on this server

[undone scaffold]

Btw i can play it smooth now but it looks like this

[lyric silo]

basically, you need a graphics card for game performance that you can put in ur pc, it costs money ofc i'd reccommend watching videos on them to get urself aquainted or ask someone u know

[lyric silo]

yeah thats cause lower, less detailed resolution dont take as much computing power

[lyric silo]

so it allows you to run it smoother

yeah

alr i think my work here is done xD

unless u got any questions that wont take too long to answer

[undone scaffold]

XD thanks. But i wont get a new graphics card cuzz i am broke

[lyric silo]

yeah thats very fair

[undone scaffold]

what graphic card do i need any ways

like minimal

[lyric silo]

well what pc did u get

do you know the name of the model or anythin?

cause to reccommend a specific gpu i need a decent amount of info on ur system

[steady stone]

steam page recommends this

[lyric silo]

do not go off of that please

[undone scaffold]

I got aaaaaaaahhhh, non gaming pc for Microsoft 😭 Where i can play Most games i like.
How do i find out

[steady stone]

although it's mostly a bare minimum, not taking like loops and such

[lyric silo]

it just depends on how good the power supply is and how big the case is

[undone scaffold]

How do i find out my pc stats

[steady stone]

generally there's applications, Speccy being the first one that comes to mind, to find info on your computer

Task Manager and Device Manager might give you some info though

[lyric silo]

i havent got a game open at all whoops

[lyric silo]

im mainly looking for PSU wattage so no they wont give the info

[steady stone]

honestly i do agree with this, the "recommended" should be in the "minimum" lul

but if the switch can run the basics of the game, you dont need too powerful unless you do crazy loops

[lyric silo]

it shouldnt even be minimum

a gtx 680 is ancient

[undone scaffold]

Ehm i did a 5 hr loop ones

[trim lynx]

not that intensive though

minimum should be like for 30fps 720p

[lyric silo]

30fps 720p is miserable

[trim lynx]

but playable

[lyric silo]

not rlly

anyways theyre already getting 30

[lyric silo]

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/cpu-z/

[steady stone]

ah, that one too

[lyric silo]

press the dowload button on the right

it shows psu

[steady stone]

cpu-z and speccy were both ones i've heard of

just been a long while

but yeah, those should do scans of whatever you have running and show you it in a GUI

[lyric silo]

ive not had to use stuff like that in while since i know all my pc parts

[undone scaffold]

k found out

[lyric silo]

alr

what is it?

[undone scaffold]

i got like 16 ram

[lyric silo]

whats ur power supply watt capacity?

[undone scaffold]

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz

[steady stone]

should be "__ PSU"

PSU being the unit of measurement

[lyric silo]

you can only see it on the label of the psu i dont think software sees it

[undone scaffold]

yea

k but i think it should work

[lyric silo]

what should work?

[undone scaffold]

the game, it dosent seem like the pc lacks smh

[lyric silo]

wdym

[undone scaffold]

Like you said i need graphic card right?

[lyric silo]

ye

[undone scaffold]

Wher can i see which one my pc hasß

[lyric silo]

it doesnt have one

thats the issue

[undone scaffold]

XD

wait bi though you need a graphic card to use a pc?

[lyric silo]

you need a graphics output, which ur cpu has built in, but because it isnt a separate piece of hardware its not very good

[undone scaffold]

oh... Thank you

for help👍

[lyric silo]

id reccommend an 'rx 5500' for the graphics card

actually get a 'rx 5500xt'

but if thats too much then look at the one without the 'xt' at the end

this is the most i can help u tbh, im not going off much info rn

just try educate urself on pc hardware from yt channels like linus tech tips

thats the best idea instead of just going for what someone on the internet has said

[undone scaffold]

Thanks appreciated imma go sleep

gn

[quasi crystal]

Is there any way to make unlocking false son actually interesting

[honest badger]

wdym

i find it very interesting, i don't really get what you mean by MAKING it interesting though

[quasi crystal]

Just making it actually enjoyable

It's just a slog for me personally

It's ror2, and big funny number fun, but like, spending like 20 minutes to get no progress on the unlock basically isn't fun

[honest badger]

why not loop?

[quasi crystal]

Not my style personally

[lyric silo]

looping is ehhhh

[wide parrot]

the alt stages make looping interesting occasionally

[runic jungle]

completing a second halcyon beacon guarantees a gold portal no? So just do the one on stage 1, go to shop on stage 4 to pick helminth, do the beacon there and get gold seed, loop, do beacon on stage 6 and fight false son that way

[honest badger]

beacon on stage 6 doesn't work

it's another gold portal

you need to dream for reformed altar or treeborn colonies at bazaar

[wide parrot]

no he's right

it would work, you just need to get to the potc afterwards

[quasi crystal]

Back to grinding for a POTENTIAL unlock

[runic jungle]

would the beacon on stage 6 not work like the stage 5 one where itll just give both?

[wide parrot]

if a halycon shrine can't take you to potc, whether because the stage numbers are wrong or you're already there, it will always spawn a gold portal

and with the easy new route to potc it's much easier now

[honest badger]

you don't get green portal from gilded coast after stage 4?

[wide parrot]

you don't need it

[quasi crystal]

Cooked ig

[wide parrot]

you can just go to potc through the bazaar now

all you need from gilded coast is the seed'

[quasi crystal]

Unironically chef seems pretty ideal to play currently

[honest badger]

also doesn't work from stage 3 onwards

[wide parrot]

I haven't done it myself, but I'm pretty sure that it will work as long as you can go to the potc, so only stages 4 and 5 don't work

looping means potc becomes an option again

[honest badger]

it's an option from seers but I've never seen any post loop geodes personally

[wide parrot]

also I have yet to get a single stage one, loops included, without a halycon shrine

they are pretty damn common

[honest badger]

post loop?

[wide parrot]

yep

since the update at least

[ocean monolith]

Do Microbots affect Pizza?
I'm noticing it disappearing before it goes off, so I'm assuming that's the Microbots deleting it

[marble osprey]

They can but you have to be pretty close to Mithrix

[ocean monolith]

Captain loves Drone Parts then lmfao

[trim narwhal]

with a good amount of syringes, u can afk next to mithrix

[versed zenith]

Is there some weird unspoken change to level design if you're using the artifact of command?

I've not seen like one multi terminal over like 25 stages

[quasi crystal]

Command doesn't spawn them

[mellow crystal]

no multishops, scrappers, printers, or anything similar because you can choose anything anyway

[quasi crystal]

There is one scrapper

[mellow crystal]

on verdant falls yea but that's a special case

[quasi crystal]

Yeah it's funny

[mellow crystal]

and ig you miss out on + multishops but like
if you need that to win a command run i think that's a you issue

[fast widget]

Does beating A moment, whole for the first time unlock anything?

[quasi crystal]

Nothing unique

It will unlock merc and your mastery skin on monsoon

[fast widget]

Even after beating a twisted scavenger?

[quasi crystal]

Nothing unique

[versed zenith]

I could swear I've seen at least one before. Ah, well. This is why we take shipping request forms.

[mellow crystal]

was probably the one on verdant
for some reason there's one specific spot on verdant falls which ALWAYS spawns either a large chest or a scrapper

[cyan vortex]

How long do soul orbs last for the monk?

[quasi crystal]

I think 8 hits each orb

[daring cloak]

And it increases with each tranquility level that seeker has

[inner prawn]

Would anyone be willing to test something for me? Could someone try getting the 100% Calculated achievement for Engineer (Killing a boss less than 5 seconds after it spawns)? I've been recently attempting it and have had absolutely no luck despite even resorting to a tricorn instakill and I'm wondering if it's a bug

Nvm we're so back idk what was up

[hoary sedge]

11 +2 for each tranquility stack hits

[north drift]

If i have 10 glasses and a shatterspleen, would tritip daggers still be useful? Like would the bread do extra damage or are they just scrapper items?

[livid wedge]

Unless you have the sotv dlc, they're pure scrap

When sotv came out, they removed the ability to multi stack bleed

[north drift]

Bruh

[north drift]

Alright, thank you:))

[livid wedge]

What I mean by have sotv, if you do, you can convert the daggers to needleticks

[haughty spire]

How much movement speed and attack speed would 215 mochas give me?

[ionic igloo]

movement speed is all additive and attack speed is complicated due to animation jank

this is all off the top of my head, but like on Commando, you don't actually go up by 15% attack speed per syringe

it makes jumps at certain intervals and eventually just caps

[lavish jacinth]

1612.5% attack speed and 1515% move speed

it's just 215 * 7.5 and 7 respectively, lol

also yeah, attack speed is wonky and 215 mochas is definitely way past the AS cap for any ability

[haughty spire]

Yeah Railgunner with plasma shrimp and a pocket icbm was a little over kill

[wary lintel]

how are you meant to kill voidling? Every time i loop i either loop either loop so much the game crashes or i do it on stage 6 and i get nuked

[lavish jacinth]

just like... do fewer loops than it takes to crash the game?
Voidling is sorta designed around looping considering how huge its health pool is and that decent mobility is pretty much a hard requirement, but you don't need to do THAT many.

you can technically do it preloop too if you know what you're doing, it's just gonna be a slog. But you do at least need enough mobility to do the parkour sections

[near mauve]

Quick question does anyone has an issue with the game losing 3 files from the game?

[lavish jacinth]

I think a few people have reported it, not sure how to fix it if it's causing issues though. #ror2-tech-support would probably know tho, check pins first

[near mauve]

ok thanks

[wary lintel]

as in how much loops would be optimal for that (also for scavengers and false son too just for good measure

[lavish jacinth]

depends on how your run is going, really. If you're killing most things with little to no effort then you're probably more than strong enough to take on any of the final bosses, but exactly how long that takes is gonna depend on luck and skill.

[unique totem]

Hello, I like the new false son fight, and I'm one of the rare people that liked SOTS before any balancing was done, but I'm just wondering, how are you supposed to deal with the laser, and false son at the same time? I feel like every time I manage to dodge the laser it just lets false son punt me into oblivion but if I focus on dodging false son, then the laser does me in. What is the intended strategy? It feels like there's no way to avoid them both at the same time.

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure you just have to stay behind cover like before, but I'm still not super familiar with the fight after the revamp

[livid wedge]

Yeah, false will come up to you but shouldn't actually attack

I think it's bugged a bit, though

[cedar pine]

Is false son actually bearable pre loop now 💔

[cedar pine]

i was lied to

[quasi crystal]

ive beaten him with hal;f the cast at this point

[honest badger]

he's designed with preloop in mind but he's also difficult

your best bet is to git gud

[cedar pine]

the hitboxes seem to be terrible, i dodged his little tp slam down and it still somehow hit me and one shot me

[honest badger]

ive never experienced that. are you sure you didnt get hit by the shockwave

[cedar pine]

iam 💔

everything else was manageable until that happened

[cyan vortex]

Lens maker glasses vs brilliant behemoth?

[lavish jacinth]

What about them

[cyan vortex]

EXACTLY WHO I WANTED TO ANSWER TYTY

Ok so...how much dmg does BB do?

[quasi crystal]

Fax is suffering from success

[cyan vortex]

Are crits better than BB's dmg

[lavish jacinth]

60% total

[cyan vortex]

U e s

Are War bombs good?

[lavish jacinth]

if you're thinking of putting behemoth into the red soup, don't
a single lensmakers is only 10% dps on average

[cyan vortex]

It drops 3 or 5 though doesn't itM

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, they're slightly nerfed from how they used to be but still very strong

[lavish jacinth]

3

[cyan vortex]

So if I'm fight false son, should I take the crit, war bombs or bb?

Fighting**

[lavish jacinth]

uhhh probably behemoth

[cyan vortex]

Idea...what if I scrap everything I have and use behemoth and glasses...

[lavish jacinth]

where even are you that you have these choices lol

[cyan vortex]

Shhhhhhh

My items aren't crazy for dmg or nun but I rushed to him with cheese artifact...

You saw nothing btw I didn't send this..

I'm gonna do it...for the memes..it's my first time fighting him

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, that's not that bad honestly

[cyan vortex]

Only behemoths or behemoths and crits...

It's been 17 mins total...

Just did a silly speed run by accident

[lavish jacinth]

FS fight actually has adds so on-kills are still useful, even the fireworks might gets some use with the geodes

[cyan vortex]

......I didn't even know😭

THE LUCK LOL

I might be cooked but yuhh

[lavish jacinth]

okay stacking behemoth was a mistake

it doesn't stack damage, only blast radius

[cyan vortex]

Bet....I will wipe it for crit💪

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, keep one of them

[cyan vortex]

Oki

I'm dead because I did a very smart move...

I probably could've won if I just played ...instead of running up to him

[lavish jacinth]

yeah ngl I would've just kept all of this lol, I would've said something but I didn't realize you were gonna get rid of everything
you had a good spread of items, it's always best to have a mix of stuff instead of going all in on one thing

[cyan vortex]

I'm blaming this on the fax machine for taking my controller and throwing my game>:CCCC

[lavish jacinth]

...yeah that didn't do you any favors either lol

rip

[pine estuary]

hello, I want to know that when will the Roadmap of ROR2 Seeker is done?

[quasi crystal]

Sometime this year

[pine estuary]

ok thank you 🫡

[eternal storm]

how do i didge the e7 false son flash step thing

he just spams dashes into my face all day

which normally isnt a problem until i realize i have e8 curse and a 3rd of my original hp

[mellow crystal]

i'm late but take advantage of the fact that the laser always comes from the same location now
so jump between side pillars

[unique totem]

I see, thanks for including an example!

[inner prawn]

man I was doing so well against pizza and then bam one shot

I had a pretty good run as huntress too but it's a shame

oops wrong chat

[real whale]

Y'all is there any lore explanation to why False Son is so small after the boss fight?

[dusky raven]

Does a twisted scav count for the acrid achievement?

The one for bite

[livid wedge]

It does not

[dusky raven]

Gracias

[cyan vortex]

Should I take electric boomerang or fmj rounds?

Is electric boomerang good?

Electric boomerang or kjaro bands?

[steady stone]

Depends on the character

[cyan vortex]

Bandit?

[steady stone]

Probably elec rang, since it can proc other stuff

[cyan vortex]

I'm running glass artifact

I have nun nearly

[steady stone]

i'd say yeah elec rang, it might be able to proc some

is not the best against mithrix, so keep an eye out for a sticky bomb or atg

[cyan vortex]

It's for false son...but same here ig

[steady stone]

Oh, that is good then. His golem summons should help some of the phases

[cyan vortex]

I'm on his fight rn so should I grab bullets too or?

10 min run💀

[steady stone]

Like rang -> bullets cauldron? If you don't have proc, maybe

[cyan vortex]

Alr alr

Ty

Bands or bullet

Prolly bands

Wish me luck

[steady stone]

With glass, it might support a burst playstyle to activate the bands and seek cover
I haven't tried new false son, but if the laser is anything similar, you'll need the cover FAST with glass.

[cyan vortex]

Can he shoot through walls?

Or explosive DMG?

[south scaffold]

I’ve noticed that in the wiki, there’s “Vanished” text for all characters. Where do you see this text in game? Or am I not able to?

[quasi crystal]

Die on commencement in coop

[mellow crystal]

sotv dlc final boss gives it once you beat it iirc

[quasi crystal]

No it just says fate unknown

[oak quiver]

To unlock engineer by Going thru 50 rounds; does it count as a round if I complete a wave in a game of Simulacrum?

[cyan vortex]

Is Crit Scope or Scorpion better? On Commando...I have 10 lenses btw

[honest badger]

scorpion

crit scope is double damage but scorpion is way more than that after enough hits

[cyan vortex]

Oki

[mellow crystal]

it's stages so i'd assume it's every 10 simulacrum waves since that's when it spawns a portal to the next stage

[cyan vortex]

Ty...

[oak quiver]

For sure. I haven’t played simulacrum yet, is it quicker to do 10 waves in that vs doing 1 stage in classic?

[cyan vortex]

What does Unstable transmitter do?...I haven't seen the effect

[mellow crystal]

depends on how quickly you loot stages tbh but imo stages are faster

[mellow crystal]

but it recharges every stage, and gives barrier instead of health

[cyan vortex]

Ah tyty

Gonna whoop False son's butt

With the seed this time....

Forgot the first time I beat him

[runic jungle]

The red field when it activates teleports enemies and applies bleed aswell

[livid wedge]

Damage bonus from negative armor caps at 100%

[honest badger]

ah shit really? i feel stupid then

[livid wedge]

It's hyperbolic

50% bonus is reached at -100 armor

Which matches the scope

[honest badger]

it's still more damage on armored enemies (bosses and some elite-boosted enemies) though