ror2-game-questions

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, captain is another case where I'd keep them

But otherwise, they die so easily to its attacks that it's hardly worth it

[trim narwhal]

they dont really die if you stay away in p1 p2

and when theyre dying on p3, thats their job so

i only really observe them dying easily to black hole

but if your gameplan is to use no resources p1 p2 and then elixir dios seed of life etc resource dump on phase 3, if you dont really have a good method for the homing shots, drones buy extra time in the same way

stage rng is also pretty important actually, some maps on p3 all this is kinda irrelevant you just have enough cover lol

man even with good cdr it can be weird af sometimes, the homing shots circle you while in evis lmao ready to try to gank you as you leave

well uhh anyways tl;dr i dont think voidling is that well designed of a fight, but theres still a lot of counterplay / builds / strats, more than its reputation. give that boss some stuff like laser walls or glowing meteors or ramp up the natural enemies / tone down the homing then maybe we're talking

[lavish jacinth]

Ngl I think voidling would've been more fun if it could spawn on normal stages (with no extra phases and more reasonable health ofc)

[trim narwhal]

i should mention if ur plan is to kinda resource dump all 3 phases cuz ur build worked out like that

going close is best, you get more laser spins which is free dps / hp restock etc

[lavish jacinth]

But the sheer size of it would be a cool setpiece, and its moveset feels more like a normal tp boss anyway

[trim narwhal]

gotce:

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

but yea cmon make the attacks fit the spectacle / make them interesting, like its aimed lasers kinda just premium stone golem blasts

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/691758342401687563/1277837691358281728/KirbyandtheForgottenLand-PostgameFinalBossFight-ChaosElfilis-Trim-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

attacks like this would be pizzawheel esque in that its dodgable with 0 speed if u can predict and read the rotation well, but still a threat if you have speed, etc

same even with false son meteor spam, if you just have enough meteors spread out, high speed builds if you arent careful ur just gonna run into one, but 0 speed can still dodge carefully

[remote spear]

every time I try to join my friend's game and he goes to character select my screen turns black, is there a fix for this?

[jaunty snow]

yall lock up ror2 discussion theyre talking about mithrix and providence's nipples

[daring cloak]

Its very important to the lore

[lavish jacinth]

assuming you're both on steam:

1. make sure you both have crossplay turned off
2. if either of you is running any mods, either disable them or share them so that you're both running the same ones

*specifically mods that aren't clientside. client-only mods like lookingglass are fine

[peak jacinth]

goatce more like

does it even work rn lol

[trim narwhal]

i saw it was updated for sots, but i havent actually played it

[light shadow]

in REX: Bushwhacked topaz shield doesnt count as health right?

[lavish jacinth]

it does count, so it's best not to take it

[light shadow]

so sad

but done

[quasi crystal]

is lens good on captain

[lavish jacinth]

it is, but I wouldn't take it unless you plan on looping

the instakill is a nice safety net if your damage ends up sucking later on, but early it's better to just have crit chance imo

[quasi crystal]

yea i meant lens

i mean glasses

im a bit slow

[lavish jacinth]

lol

[quasi crystal]

are glasses just good on every suvivor to varying degrees

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, crits are always good except on railgunner and arguably bandit

[quasi crystal]

dont glasses on railgunner just convert to extra dmg

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, but very poorly

one lensmakers is only a 5% damage buff

[quasi crystal]

frowns

is executive card just active constantly or do i have to hit q when i buy stuff

also how does equipment drone work with exec card

[wind kernel]

5% damage buff and also only applies if you hit the weak spof

[trim narwhal]

mostly crit gives consistent bonus but outside of like railgunner etc, its value mostly shifts just by in comparison to other items, and thats usually whats important when you have to make choice between crit and some other damage white in a trishop

for instance -- a crit glasses will make both mult nailgun and commando m1 do 10% more damage. but a sticky bomb is 9% for commando and only 5.4% for mult due to proc coefficient

and well in and of themselves, the other dmg% whites do more on theyre own but have conditions -- like focus crystal is 20% but only in melee. well melee survivors dont mind that at all

and well acrid etc their poison can get amped by dmg% but the poison cant crit. but then as u go lategame as acrid more and more damage is from item delivery service, but those items can crit

and of course worth noting the crit specific interactions like shatterspleen or predatory etc

in practice though even for survivors where crit is a little weaker or a little stronger, you still want a mix of items anyways to take advantage of how items are multiplicative with each other

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't

and yeah, it's just passive

[quasi crystal]

figured that out the hard way

[lavish jacinth]

rip

actually it technically DOES work on them, it's just that drones aren't able to buy things

and items held by the drone don't affect you unless it's something that explicitly applies to teammates, like

[storm ether]

Restart discord

[peak holly]

Mods are not discord tech support

Buh

Autocorrect

[weak kettle]

does aurelionites stage count as a stage? (once u beat it, it goes from 3->4?)

[livid wedge]

The stage counter goes up when you go to aurellionites stage but does not once you leave it for the next, as with void fields

[weak kettle]

alr

[quasi crystal]

how do i get my item descriptions to show detailed percent chances when i pick them up

Is it a settings thing

[lavish jacinth]

there's a setting that lets you inspect items for more detailed descriptions, but what you probably want is the LookingGlass mod

[quasi crystal]

why this game need so many mods!

[lavish jacinth]

Just do what I do and memorize all the items

[analog brook]

You can check all the % of items ingame by pausing it already, I wouldn't way it's needed

[quasi crystal]

yea i was being sarcastic

[lavish jacinth]

Lookingglass does show more information than the base game tbf

[quasi crystal]

think im finally starting to understand why ror2 fans are so devoted this game is fire

also what are some good items to build around on false son

[tender temple]

Anything

[mellow crystal]

literally anything but primarily health

[tender temple]

False son is the one character that can benefit from basically anything

[mellow crystal]

his m1 deals 1500% damage with 3.0 proc so he works with burst and proc items

[tender temple]

Proc items? Laser
Bands? Slam
Health items? Growth

[quasi crystal]

The one exception is transcendence do not take it on false son

[lavish jacinth]

Even bison steak is decent on him

[mellow crystal]

bison steak goes from useless to 1-2 growth stacks which is pretty nice

[quasi crystal]

Don't print steaks though they fall off

[lavish jacinth]

He's also one of the only survivors that can take stone flux without being totally crippled

[mellow crystal]

who even are the others
loader? i've thought of it a bit but never much since she doesn't really need the extra health

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, it's just loader

[mellow crystal]

makes sense

[quasi crystal]

It'd be loader but even she loses some speed from gauntlet iirc

[lavish jacinth]

She doesn't really need it, but she can technically take it

[quasi crystal]

I definitely noticed a drop in velocity with it

[lavish jacinth]

A little bit but it's negligible, it basically only matters if you punch while standing still

[quasi crystal]

I stacked a few in a lunar only run, this isn't realistically happening but it does lower the punch, probably also didn't help I was using thunder

[lavish jacinth]

Ah, stacking more than one might do it, I only tested with one or two (and it's hard to test anyway with her damage being naturally inconsistent)

[quasi crystal]

Oh right did headstompers use loaders heavy before the rework

[lavish jacinth]

Uhhh I think so? It wasn't explicitly listed as heavy but it was based on velocity

[quasi crystal]

What I'm really asking is if they both use the same formula

[lavish jacinth]

No idea

[wind kernel]

Not really, movement speed doesnt affect loaders grapple

[acoustic acorn]

I like going boing boing with loader then john commando falling onto me with the power of 2 suns

[vital chasm]

How to even play in this kind of situation? Just got the game in ps and the game is kicking my butt

[daring cloak]

Use the scope shots more. Railgunner and simulacrum arent really beginner friendly. Simulacrum also doesnt have an ending and doesnt really make you learn or unlock much

And dont be disappointed about dying, its entirely normal to lose many times before you learn how to deal with the threats of this game

[vital chasm]

makes sense but I love the no time stress of simulacrum maybe I will play it after sometime

[trim narwhal]

if you stacked that many you can kinda senator armstrong stuff

well, dont tank every pizza slice at once, but

or well i mean 1-2 is enough, with the %hp barrier gain on hit

[tough zealot]

Is warped echo good?

[torn gulch]

It is good, yes

[tough zealot]

How good are we talking and in what way? I'm guessing it's got a decent synergy with tougher times?

[livid wedge]

Tougher times no longer blocks the divided damage

It either blocks the hit entirely or the hit drals all it's damage in chunks

[tough zealot]

Interesting

[fair sequoia]

how do i run and m1 at the same time

i'm using MUL T if that changes anything

[livid wedge]

@fair sequoia only Agile skills can be used while sprinting

[fair sequoia]

what are those

[livid wedge]

Like huntress's primary and utility and mercenary's primary

[fair sequoia]

oh

[livid wedge]

When you look at the survivor in the character select, you'll see various keywords highlighted in blue. When you select/hover that skill, the game will show a tooltip describing the keyword

Like Agile on the huntress's primary or perhaps Poisonous listed on some of Acrid's skills

[tough zealot]

Can someone link me a good video comparing void items to their non void counterparts? I remember watching a good one but I'm coming back to the game after 3 years

[slim spoke]

you might wanna check disputed's channel
either him, or race is gonna have a video

[marble osprey]

The splitting the damage up into multiple hits doesn't do much, but the 30% damage reduction isn't bad, it's a bit less than opal and has a longer cooldown but it applies to things like void cradles and blood shrines while opal doesn't

[tough zealot]

Thanks! That guy sounds familiar

[wheat vault]

What's this "collectibles' ?

[slim spoke]

im assuming logs

[wheat vault]

mobs ?

[slim spoke]

mobs and environments
better check the logbook

also, jeez you almost got it all

[wheat vault]

yes 🙂

[wheat vault]

I'm missing 2 mobs and 4 maps

Thx 🙂

[slim spoke]

that doesnt seem right

i mean, if so you'd be 6 tolls back, not 2

man i dont understand this

[wheat vault]

yes

maybe just mobs

51 mobs

I counted

[slim spoke]

dont seem to be geeps here

[wheat vault]

🤣 🤣

[quasi crystal]

is he another one of those chars where if i get growth nectar i just win

[trim narwhal]

hp items, but also lumishot is a standout item for him

[slim spoke]

funky damage stacking

[trim narwhal]

but well dmg% always good, the laser has low proc coeff but hits really fast so u can still run bleeds, u can run proc based build too with m1m2, band build with m1m2, they can kinda do anything

[slim spoke]

oneshots are possible aswell, no?

[trim narwhal]

slow ass full tank builds too, with the armor from growth

[trim narwhal]

wdym

[slim spoke]

like burst damage (crowbar and shit)

[trim narwhal]

sure, thats kinda lumped with band builds

[honest badger]

literally all of them

[quasi crystal]

also is breaching fin bad? ive head a lot of negative opinions ab it

[trim narwhal]

its pretty strong, and its also bugged

it counts as two for deathmark and double dips dmg increase on procs

[slim spoke]

was bad, now a fun item

[quasi crystal]

ohhhh\

[honest badger]

it's really funny on captain

[trim narwhal]

ease of not missing shots after bounce will depend on character

[honest badger]

also rex bc his special lifts enemies

[slim spoke]

stun and its own debuff
thats 2 alright

[trim narwhal]

for instance its kinda disgusting on engi

each turret has its own fin cooldown

and the turrets wont miss

[slim spoke]

wait, does enemies get flagged or they just use a debuff

[quasi crystal]

backup mag printer first floor while im playing false son, this game might love me

[slim spoke]

vroom

[honest badger]

isn't it useless for fs

[trim narwhal]

mags get you extra armor speed hp etc still

[slim spoke]

why

[quasi crystal]

iirc more lunar spikes = more growth no?

[trim narwhal]

they wont increase laser duration

[honest badger]

oh that's great

[trim narwhal]

nah its more growth = more spikes

other way around

[quasi crystal]

oh yea

[slim spoke]

no
theres never the spikes <=> growth
its just <=

[trim narwhal]

but the spikes themselves give the regen speed atk spe etc

growth also more laser duration, mags wont do that

but, growth slows down in terms of hp to spike

so in that sense mags are the best for increasing needle stock past a point

the hp itself is also good from steaks or etc, since the needles also give armor when unused, making each point of hp more valuable, etc

false son gets noticeably tankier than other characters with the same hp items

[quasi crystal]

9 lunar spikes first stage

[slim spoke]

lowballing

[tough zealot]

Could someone please jog my memory on attack speed on mercenary? I can't recall if there was something about too many syringes being a thing or not. Something about his tech not working after a certain point

Also, different question: How do I beat the false son? Can I go straight to him? Should I loop or do the void thing first..?

[quasi crystal]

i may b e stupid what what exactly does the delivery from delivery request form look like

[hoary sedge]

yeah the expose transfer tech gets progressively harder to time the more attack speed you get. it's not bad to start though

and you can go to false son on the first loop but bc you fight him on stage 4 it's kinda hard to have enough items to actually win on the first loop

[hoary sedge]

it kinda looks like a multishop with only 2 terminals and a wider section in the middle in a little crater on the ground

[quasi crystal]

oh yeahhh

[tough zealot]

Good to know, ty. Is there a number I should be stopping at or something?

Also, how the hell do I stay alive as merc? I feel like I'm playing with fire here. Killing everything and having a great run but I think I almost died, at least according to my empty power elixir

Running the cool build obv, slicing winds

and focused assault

[hoary sedge]

uhh maybe? I don't remember the exact number, but the expose tech gets less necessary as a run goes on and you get more aoe items so in practice you don't really need to worry about it

[tough zealot]

Ahh ok sweet.

Thank you

[hoary sedge]

just lots of expose chaining and iframe abuse, and also positioning. if you're having problems with survivability blinding/evisc is a bit safer

[trim narwhal]

i prefer focused evis

[quasi crystal]

is giving an equipment drone royal capacitor a bad idea

[trim narwhal]

when the blinding charges are up you arent gonna die, but double expose on m1 extend focused makes you have so little downtime

[quasi crystal]

ty!

[trim narwhal]

also stronger band proc

[quasi crystal]

oh yea does false son growth work with shield or strictly max hp

[trim narwhal]

max

transcending makes ur growth 0

[quasi crystal]

shit

should i scrap smth to get more glasses

nvm i just casually got another

[gilded dirge]

how to mitigate sojourn's damage again?

iirc its Armor Plates + the lava egg thingie/self heals

[hoary sedge]

yeah that's the dream combo

just repulsion armor is usually enough if you use alt m2 though

tougher times also helps

[trim narwhal]

healing drops to 0 after a while

after like 10 seconds of dmg or something?

mind you a 10 second iframe + nuke is still really strong, especially if u rely on heals for 10 then rely on ball barriers after

but if u want to basically break the game, focus on getting the dmg per tick to 1

plates are the best way for that, buckler reduces plates needed especially if ur high level or used solitude, but way the armor works, you always need plates

if not looping 7-8 plates alone is always gonna do the trick

[marble osprey]

If you don't want it then nah it's pretty good, it'll just hit random things for a decent amount of damage

[marble osprey]

Easiest way to think about it is 1 plate for every 100 health

[trim narwhal]

what if u find hp items?

gonna be hard to tell what ur base hp was if u had like prayer beads used

[tough zealot]

I think tougher times works?

What's the lava egg thing?

[mellow crystal]

planula

every non-sots item is in the emojis so when in doubt just search the list until you find the icon and check its name

[gilded dirge]

o7

yeah planulas tricky to get without an artifact

so ill just do this

[tough zealot]

ty

Any tips for beating the new boss? I haven't had any luck with anyone yet

[wind kernel]

Looping

Should do the trick if not just rng with item luck

[tough zealot]

Is he generally considered hard?

[wind kernel]

Stage 4 right away is hadd

[trim narwhal]

theres some specific interactions if u have the luck

for instance, bens raincoat nullifies his ability steal

[wind kernel]

Its more to theres barely any counter without good items

[trim narwhal]

if u were 'lucky' to find that, maybe u can consider it earlier

[wind kernel]

Old war stealthkit is really good

If it pops when hes doing the lazer it will stop targeting you

[trim narwhal]

really?

[wind kernel]

Keeping beetle guard also really good

[trim narwhal]

i thought itd be like titan laser

[wind kernel]

Draws aggro off you

[wind kernel]

Yes they just miss when stealthkit is on

[trim narwhal]

does bandit shift do the same then

[wind kernel]

Titan laser works differently ig

[wind kernel]

Dunno, dont play bandit that much

In theory it should

Easy to beat it with loader as long as you keep spinning

[nocturne sierra]

Last time I checked before the item update the bandit invis did not stop him from tracking you, but I haven’t checked since update

[wind kernel]

it stops tracking u

just tried it

[tough zealot]

What items should I be looking for for noxious thorn

[fathom warren]

real quick, does CHEF's m1 recharge faster with attack speed similar to arti or nah?

[quasi crystal]

this sounds modded because he ignores bandits smoke

[light shadow]

how many fungus are too many on engi?

[fresh umbra]

Yes

Also gets faster with cooldown reductions (alien head, purity)

[fathom warren]

okay thats great, thansk bro, i really needed that

[fresh umbra]

(But not light flux bc the half cooldowns and half attack speed cancel out)
Np

[tough zealot]

Is titanic knurl good? Playing as merc right now

I could recycle it

[mellow crystal]

better off recycling for a possible murn yea

[tough zealot]

Ha nice, recycled it and that's what i got

I forget how good each item is

[wind kernel]

he doesnt ignore bandit smoke

all i have is debugtoolkit when testing

they still use the slam if we're close to them even when invinsible

[quasi crystal]

He has not stopped targeting me when I used smoke before I had drones and also went behind cover he stayed locked onto me

[wind kernel]

unless youre standing still

@quasi crystal

[quasi crystal]

Well I was standing still after I ran behind a pillar as he was very much still tracking me

[wind kernel]

single player

?

[quasi crystal]

Yes

[wind kernel]

probably because you went back to the area he was tracking, and autolocks to you again ?

similar to voidfiend m1 aim assist

but the overall normal aim is not tracking you

cmiiw

[quasi crystal]

I don't know all I know Is I was moving he lasered me I smoke bombed started running to cover and the laser followed me

This was day one sots so no mods

[wind kernel]

at the very least smoke bomb and stealthkit makes it miss if you keep moving, without it the laser instatracks you perrfectly

so quite good to keep it around

but false son can still slams you if you get close to him regardless invisible or not

[tough zealot]

Which portal is which?

One takes me to the void boss, one takes me back to normal levels?

[nocturne sierra]

One takes you to the stage before void boss, which is the white one, the one with the black center takes you to regular stages

[tough zealot]

ty

[quasi crystal]

He slams you even if he's on your team lol

I got a happiest mask proc on phase 2 once and whenever I went close to him he would swing

[sudden gyro]

https://youtube.com/shorts/He9M4F7i_w0?si=6LhG4qaUHQDC4wqh

how does he put multiple items into the printer at once?

[high forum]

A mod, probably

[mellow crystal]

actuallyfaster mod

[sudden gyro]

Thank you

[fair sequoia]

is engineer a support survivor?

[high forum]

He can be, but not inherently

There's not a lot of ways to actively support other players, but getting stuff like bustling fungus and playing with stationary turrets can kind of fill that role

[wind kernel]

Better to think of them the same when you play solo

Not as classes in rpg

[fair sequoia]

ohh ok

[wind kernel]

|| but fr engi is not support but a summoner class ||

[wind kernel]

Tldr theres no such thing as supporter class cause support as in only healing is not a viable build and you need to have damaging items too

In multiplayer scenario everyone should be able to carry their own weight regardless of what survivor they pick

And teamwork is more about sharing items which works which, but not oversharing that one player have 2x the items

[limber eagle]

According to the wiki, Artificer's Flamethrower inflicts Ignite on about half of its hits. Is this luck-based, with a ~50% chance to ignite at base?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[limber eagle]

alright, good to know

I figured it probably was but wanted to verify

[honest badger]

bubble shield or bungus turrets are pretty supportive but in general there are no support characters, only support builds

[honest badger]

what is fs growth mechanic

[daring cloak]

The more hp he gets (excluding levelling, but including beads) the more growth bonuses he gets

Those would be more lunar spikes stacks, longer laser of the father duration and more laser burst stacks

[honest badger]

oh cool, i guess i missed that in its description

[daring cloak]

The bonuses are in the description of each skill

[analog brook]

Tbh reading the descriptions of SotS characters (seeker and FS) when you unlock them, and before you actually play them, is super confusing

For the first month not a single soul actually understood how seeker works

[honest badger]

i died bc i thought it self revived and i killed myself for the bit

[daring cloak]

Yes

Uhh prolly

[lavish jacinth]

they don't, just tested to confirm

[wintry path]

What are some of the best legendary items for false son?

[gilded dirge]

ion surge or flamethrower?

[livid wedge]

All depends on your playstyle, @gilded dirge

Legendary for false son?

[wintry path]

yes the character not boss

[livid wedge]

I know, I'm just thinking

[wintry path]

was thinking scorpion but im not sure

[livid wedge]

I was thinking runic lens. His charge primary does 1500, which is a 48% chance to proc with it and then that's multiplied by it's proc coef of 3, guarantee it procs every time

Best green on him is luminous shot, hands down

[wintry path]

true

damn thats true

thanks 👍

[gilded dirge]

I assume its better with H3AD

[livid wedge]

True, head stompers is amazing with ion surge

However, the community still feels pretty divided and there's a reason we have this sticker

[gilded dirge]

luckily, this random run I am doing with it on I got H3AD

[tough zealot]

Is there any way to guarantee a golden shrine? And is it possible to find halycon shrines on loops?

[gilded dirge]

lmaol

[tough zealot]

I've been looping with commando trying to get it, never actually checked if this was possible or not

[gilded dirge]

sadly its kinda random

[livid wedge]

There's no guarantee of a golden shrine, although you can dream of the gilded coast in the newts bazaar, and halcyon shrines can def spawn in loops

[tough zealot]

Ahhh lovely thank you

Finally got it

[gilded dirge]

Is there a way to get Ice Javelins easily? it seems like such a weird challenge

[tough zealot]

Which one are you talking about?

[trim narwhal]

although he hasnt any buffs

in terms of synergy, growth nectar should be pretty cool

gives you a bunch more growth. that growth gives u a bunch of stats which nectar is gonna amplify further too

[gilded dirge]

Artificers 2 alt

Cuz the challenge is kill a boss in 0.5 secs of starting the event

And its like, that sounds ridiculous

Cuz even in a broken run you can melt a guy in 1 sec, but its like what determines the period that counts idk, very weird challenge

[trim narwhal]

command, glass, crowbars, bands, preon/capacitor, etc

[tough zealot]

It's actually not that bad at all. Pretty easily done with nano bomb and a crowbar printer

If you want to do it really easily do it with artifact of glass

You can also use stuff like preon accumulator or the lightning thing. Also stuff like delicate watches, shaped glass lunar

Just crowbars and glass cannon items will do it.

[analog brook]

I think sojourn deals 550%, gains 20% per second and then deals 110% of those combined together upon explosion, if that's what you mean

Ooohhh

I think the blast radius radius starts a 5m (scaling 0.05 per tranq) and it's max 20m (scaling +0.15 per tranq...????)

I actually don't know

I guess it deals 20% hp per sec and increases 400% in damage per sec.. I think

[gilded dirge]

oh

they just meant in one shot, aight lmao, I thought they meant as soon as they spawned

[lyric silo]

just use tricorn

[gilded dirge]

its done bro

[lyric silo]

cool

[gilded dirge]

also yeah lmao, didnt think of that

[analog brook]

Damn i give up lmao

[tough zealot]

Nice!

Where did you get 5% every 0.2? I thought it was 20% a second?

[gilded dirge]

inb4 I like the nanobombs more now

[trim narwhal]

the dmg only scales with level btw

hp items wont change it

[tough zealot]

Good to know

Huh, wiki is inconsistent

[trim narwhal]

i think they mention it

or well is this fandom or wikigg

[trim narwhal]

u get like +400% per second

sojourn 0 falloff hits around the size of an eclipse teleporter

at max size

[trim narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901542787055636/1285726095164833855/2024-09-17_18-12-03_-_Trim.mp4?ex=67c5817c&is=67c42ffc&hm=6df9e2101b1b1e0c8222de0eea4ee0a0e6b0bfbcbb308a6238d021b229358008&

[daring cloak]

Aint no way the id for steak is 69

[trim narwhal]

better radius example

oops wrong one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172239399606554645/1283429968205844552/2024-09-11_10-04-59_-_Trim.mp4?ex=67c5b8cd&is=67c4674d&hm=d7bb250710e157effabcc7fcc6549a3e65d9696b4db014bc88256139697244b3&

basically it scales with time and tranq, up to a cap, in practice u want max tranq and to stay inside as long as possible anyways, so

the range is capped at about the size in my clip, dmg is not capped though

you can see the circle around you grow, its a range indicator

i guess when u see it stop growing (?)

its not accurate tho

a bit bigger than the circle

really dunno what the actual game desc means by 20% lol

in the "flat" dmg gain its not anywhwre near 20 and in terms of damage gain from original 550 its not near 20 either so xd?

im not sure about th wiki value from testing

its saying max is 20+6*0.15? or

but eclipse tp was 30m i thought

[daring cloak]

Absolutely those who just take everything

I still will not forgive that one random loader player who took shustice when I was captain and never fully procced it

[worldly olive]

There we go

[honest badger]

useless tip:you can mark the first message of a conversation as unread to see how many messages were sent assuming it doesn't pass 50

[high forum]

now

green suggestions?

[sour flint]

Does anyone here not have Titanic Plains log?

[karmic surge]

Clearly Infusion

[honest badger]

hunters harpoon

[honest badger]

berserkers pauldron is actually good for looping

otherwise it's ass

[karmic surge]

otherwise it's ass

also me thinks this should move into the #ror2-discussion because those are clearly not game questions

[honest badger]

i can make it a question? hunters harpoon is actually goated fr? this counts?

[analog brook]

What the fuck do you meAN, EXTRA CHALLANGE MODIFIER???? IT JSUT KEEPS SHOOTING ME BRO WHAT THE HELL

I CANT KILL IT

[sour flint]

How tf did it get up there???

[analog brook]

I don't know 😭 I didn't know they could even interact with the jump if that's what it was

didn't even realize this was the wrong channel

[wary lintel]

Best dlcs that make looping better?

[honest badger]

wdym best dlcs? there are two and both are good

[wary lintel]

as in the best dlc if you mainly loop

also is ror2 fun without dlcs or are they needed?

[honest badger]

it's fun without but way more fun with

[wary lintel]

with both or just sotv

im also getting mods as well for context

[fast briar]

sotv and sots makes looping much better but void items are cracked so id say sotv a little more so than sots

Also I recommend both, havent gotten the sotv dlc yet cuz I am waiting on phase 2 and eventually phase 3 roadmap but I have interacted with the items through prismatic trials and can confirm they're very fun, also peak stage design and music

[acoustic acorn]

Hehehehehe someone just played umbral mytrix

[daring cloak]

I swear the game just goes out of its way to throw all the bullshit it can at you when youre playinf chef

[fresh umbra]

Is mithrix taking out like 75% of his hp in phase 4 a known bug?

I was playing captain and had a bunch of drones. i’ll send a clip later

[thorn cove]

do the different stage variants like verdant and viscous falls have separate logbook entries? just wanna know if i should be looking for certain ones in particular

[daring cloak]

Yes

[thorn cove]

tyty

[quasi crystal]

can you still access the lunar shop if you already did the teleporter

[lavish jacinth]

Nope, newt altars are disabled once the tp starts

[quasi crystal]

shit

[fresh umbra]

*Unless one happens to be in the tp radius

[light shadow]

just got mastery with every hero including heretic and every ability unlocked I feel I can buy an expansion, so which one would you guys recommend? is there a better one or just go chronological order?

[honest badger]

no aren't they just disabled entirely

not even locked

[honest badger]

including heretic?? anyway you should get both but do sotv first, then sots

[light shadow]

its the name of the lunar items one right? I mean i still have the logbooks of maps to do but i'm lazy hahhaha anyways, thank you!

[honest badger]

lunar is base game

survivors of the void adds void items

[light shadow]

im asking the survicor "heretic"

[honest badger]

ohh yeah but how'd you get mastery for it

[mellow crystal]

sotv is overall just better than sots rn

[digital egret]

Hey

I am trying to start a game with a friend but for some reason he cannot join any multiplayer game nor even start a single player game.

No lobbys in search for multiplayer, for some context we just downloaded the games

We have tried verifying the game files along with reinstalling the game

checked fire wall security to make sure it was receiving a internet connection

everything has been checked off the list yet the problem of not being able to join any game is still there,\

has anyone came across and did yall find the solution?

[peak jacinth]

if you both just downloaded the game, turn off crossplay, it’s the first setting and it fucks things up

[digital egret]

ok well give it a try, anything else?

[peak jacinth]

there are some messages pinned in #ror2-tech-support which may help if that doesn’t work. If not then you could try sending a message there

[lavish jacinth]

not being able to start singleplayer is almost 100% a crossplay issue

[peak jacinth]

multiplayer connection is 100% crossplay too

[livid wedge]

No, if they are normally locked like most other interactables during the tp event but if one is inside the zone, it can be activated and a portal will spawn once the event finishes

[opal willow]

can you still trimp on current patch

[quasi crystal]

how many will o wisps/voidsent flames are a reasonable amount to have max

[honest badger]

literally as many as you can get

it's so funny

they scale rly well

[steady stone]

yeah, since it's damage and range you can go until they start just one-shotting everything really

after that you would be better off stacking other greens

[lavish jacinth]

bear in mind that there's almost nothing to kill in the mithrix fight, so if you're gonna invest that many items into willowisp then you should bring

or just obliterate

and ofc voidsent will be even less useful for mithrix

[wind kernel]

Dont get too much, mithrix might take it and proc it off your drones/teamtames and explode the whole arena

[livid wedge]

I honestly wish there were smaller minions spawning during the first phase tko

So on kill stuff isn't completely dead

[wind kernel]

Third phase still have minions

[quasi crystal]

i took 10 voidsent i might be cooked

[vale quartz]

is this crossplay?

[high forum]

no

(there is cross play between the steam and epic games platform but not between consoles)

[livid wedge]

Yeah, I wish the first phase had some too

[vale quartz]

so there is no way to play with somone of playstation if im on pc correct?

[high forum]

correct, that's not possible

[honest badger]

what items are good for growth nectar

[steady stone]

full list for what counts here
generally the ones that dont require gimicks (like how medkit is for 3 seconds after dmg) will be better, being constant

[lavish jacinth]

basically anything that gives a positive status effect will work, including the off-cooldown "buff" from stuff like bands

[limber tartan]

so what all is included in the two DLC packs? i have the base game but i have almost never played it, someone gifted it to me a long time agol. i just got a steam deck last week and thought this game would be good to play on that but i'm not sure if i should get the dlc or not

[lavish jacinth]

the dlcs are basically just more of everything

they both have a ton of new items, new survivors, maps, enemies, bosses, etc..
Survivors of the Void also includes a new item tier and gamemode, and some other mechanics

I'd say try the game out first and decide if you like it, the dlcs are fun but not necessary

and if you do get the dlc's I'd recommend starting with SotV

[quasi crystal]

"A ton" for sots items is a little funny

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's a decent amount

[quasi crystal]

A little over a third of sotv

[limber tartan]

it looks like it is really meant to be multiplayer but i don't really have any friends that play this, so is there like matchmaking or something to get me in a match with randoms that i will probably ruin by having no clue what im doing? lol

[lavish jacinth]

honestly nah, the singleplayer is perfectly fine

if anything multiplayer is a little lackluster, it's not bad but it tends to feel more like multiple singleplayer runs happening at the same time rather than true co-op

but if you do wanna do mp, #lfg-pc-ror2 might be better than joining randoms. I pretty much always play solo but people in this server are pretty chill

[quasi crystal]

should i cop electric boomerang on engi

it doesnt seem crazy i might just recycle it

[limber tartan]

does this game feel good to play on a controller? i don't have any consoles and only really play on pc, so im still kind of getting used to the steam deck controller

[steady stone]

There's aim assist I believe in the settings, if that's your concern

[lavish jacinth]

nah, boomerang is pretty sweet

not the highest damage on its own, but it makes up for it with the amount of procs it gets

[quasi crystal]

i might have a goated run on my hands

pluripotent isnt my favorite but hey i gain more than i lose atm even though id lose bungus

[lavish jacinth]

it's still pretty great on engie

reviving turrets without bungus is better than them not reviving at all

[honest badger]

yeah larva is rly good in singles

[spiral spire]

how to unlock the information about a certain survivor do i just need to beat mithrix in any difficulty? for the logbook

[steady stone]

mhm, logbooks are for beating the game on the respective character

[lavish jacinth]

you don't get them on eclipse though for some reason

[quasi crystal]

I mean it's because eclipse is in the alternate game modes

[peak jacinth]

don’t you get mastery tho

[quasi crystal]

🤷

Someone test if you get mastery in monsoon simu

I will later if no one else is crazy enough

[peak jacinth]

you can’t beat simulacrum

there’s no ending

[quasi crystal]

Oh lol

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you do get mastery for eclipse

[wind kernel]

You do get your mastery skin

[wind kernel]

You cant beat risk of rain

You will almost will try again to play it for eternity

Theres no end in risk of rain

Its just and endless loop

[quasi crystal]

Great but I asked about simu lol

[lavish jacinth]

lmao, I misread

[limber tartan]

how often do the two big DLCs go on sale for this game?

also if i were to only get one of the two DLC packs, which should it be?

[lavish jacinth]

definitely get SotV first

[olive spade]

survivors of the void because railgunner and void fiend are really good survivors

[lavish jacinth]

SotS is alright but still has some issues, and the content in SotV just adds a lot more depth overall with void items

[lavish jacinth]

also I think they go on sale whenever the main game does, which is usually during major steam sales

[olive spade]

yea more stages without going through green portal and a lot more enemies + void items

[lavish jacinth]

the next sale would be the spring sale, which is in like 10 days

[limber tartan]

cool, i will probably get one of them then

are there any like general tips or advice you guys have? i am playing for the first time since 2019. and even back then i only played for 5 hours, so im basically playing for the first time and getting kinda owned lol

[lavish jacinth]

#1 thing would just be to try to get as much loot as you can and don't rush straight to the teleporter

a good rule of thumb is to fully loot stages and try to get at least one item per minute, with a little extra time set aside for using printers and scrappers and the like

[fast briar]

Don't start with commando, huntress is more beginner friendly and so is railgunner if you get the dlc since you need specific builds to make commando viable, also don't be embarrassed that you die a lot the first time around, you need to get used to the game and should not expect to win until much more hours have been put in

Also every fourth stage has a guaranteed red/red chest on the map

[ionic igloo]

Commando is very beginner friendly because he has a basic kit that works with most items in the game, so you can learn to play the game instead of trying to learn a character at the same time

I would save RG for after you start winning a few runs or you feel comfortable with how all the items and enemies work

Bandit is beginner friendly as well, and also very strong

[quasi crystal]

Nah while I agree with commando being beginner friendly, if you're used to sniping in other shooters rg is valid

I do wish commandos alts were his base kit because it'd make him feel even more like a basic fps character

[fast briar]

Commando is defo easy but huntress has auto aim, better mobility and works more universallh than commando, commando NEEDS bleed or other on hit items to really shred enemies and can struggle without proper items if you get unlucky, but yeah what the other guy said rg is very easy to use and very op

[limber tartan]

how many characters are in the base game and how many do each of the DLC add?

also what character is the one that looks like a alien bear or tiger thing? i decided to install the game and try it again after watching a review of the game from SkillUp which is my favorite game reviewer, and he showed most of his gameplay as the weird alien bear tiger thing and it looked really fun and i really wanna play that guy

[ionic igloo]

Acrid

[mellow crystal]

11 basegame (not counting a secret one that's unselectable in the character select), 2 from SotV, 3 from SotS

[mellow crystal]

tho the sotv ones are admittedly more polished than the sots ones rn so like

[ionic igloo]

be warned acrid is not as hidden as other survivors, but still slightly hidden

[mellow crystal]

he is definitely way more hidden than chars like bandit or captain tho

you have to go out of your way to search an optional area to even find his unlock

[ionic igloo]

Yeah true, I'm mostly comparing him to Chef and False Son. Or REX, which has two different parts that new people get stuck on every other day

[trim narwhal]

rex was easier back in the day when depths was guaranteed, or did sirens call drop before rex

[analog brook]

Does anyone know how charing up nanobolt works? I just today realized that for the past years I've never really just let it shoot itself out by itself. I always thought it was like some other things you charge up and have a little bit of a window before they actually shoot out on their own after getting charged to max but I think it might actually shoot itself out at the max of 2000%

[daring cloak]

Wait whats the question

[analog brook]

I've just been releasing it the second the funny ( ) parts of the crosshair touch the circle at all slightly for all these years but I think I've just been waiting damage

[analog brook]

Does nanobolt get shot out the second it hits max charge damage?

[daring cloak]

Oh yeah it auto fires once its at max

[analog brook]

Fffuucckkkkkk

[trim narwhal]

i know some abilities can be let out earlier but idk about arti stuff

[daring cloak]

HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT

[analog brook]

Been wasting so much dps for these years man ICANT

[analog brook]

Arti is like my least favorite and least played and I always thought of it the same as like.... Engi primary... Or.............. Another ability which can be held for a little after getting charged to max but then automatically releases

It think kinda just became muscle memory because I always try to boost myself using nanobolt knockback..... Which I don't even know if that actually does anything, I swear it did on old console phsyics but I've just kept doing it to this day and I'm starting to doubt it...

[trim narwhal]

it does

its kinda tiny but exists

if u mean for horizontal traversal idk if its a speed again

[limber tartan]

is this guy DLC or in the base game?

[daring cloak]

Thats acrid

So yeah base game

[fresh umbra]

Or captain primary, kinda

[minor wolf]

what artifacts sre even good, idk what to get 😭

[high forum]

there are like 16, you should just get them all

no reason not to

artifacts are more for fucking around with the game than being 'good' or 'bad'

[minor wolf]

what ones are the most funnt for singleplayer than

[high forum]

it's really personal preference! When I'm trying to chill out and play the game, I like Sacrifice and Swarms.

Sacrifice makes it so that there's no chests, and instead enemies drop items.

Swarms doubles the amount of enemies that appear, but halves their base health

Command can be cool for stacking items, but it can become a hassle as the game progresses

[minor wolf]

whats the pattern for swarms,,?

[quasi crystal]

Dissonance is cool it makes enemies spawn on maps they don't normally spawn on

[mellow crystal]

devotion is also neat
replaces drones with lemurians that you can give items to, share an inventory with each other, and that evolve with each tp boss you beat

[quasi crystal]

Not just tp bosses

[trim lynx]

devotion is cool

[minor wolf]

evolve?

[mellow crystal]

awu too

[trim lynx]

i like swarms + honour sometimes

[mellow crystal]

lemurian -> elite lemurian -> elder lemurian -> elite elder lemurian

[honest badger]

honor swarms is funny

[quasi crystal]

Awu, aure, umbra survivors

Regular lemurians can only be glacial mending blazing or overloading but elder lemurians can be any elite besides void twisted and gilded

[worldly olive]

Rex was before Sirens from what I remember

Though its not the worst now since you can still get Depths with decent consistency thanks to the bazzar

[lavish jacinth]

I think Rex is the whole reason the lunar seers were added in the first place

[worldly olive]

Maybe
Then again Rex isn't the only unlock that requires a specific map

Bands, Preon, and Gesture require a specific map

Like for Preon maybe it makes sense since Scorched Acres wasn't added until a tiny bit later, however Bands and Gesture to my knowledge at least have been there since day 1

[sacred halo]

why did i just hear a medieval noise when i started a boss 💀

[mellow crystal]

war bonds

[sacred halo]

thanks

[lyric silo]

wait is that why on loop i kept hearing rlly funny sounds whenever a scav spawned? thats rlly funny

[quasi crystal]

Have you ever gotten your ears bombarded by warbonds

[lyric silo]

no but i have by thunderslam

[quasi crystal]

It's not that loud

[lyric silo]

it is...

the bug...

[quasi crystal]

Hearing damage gang

Yeah I downpatched just to hear it

Maybe my headphones protected me with equalizer software

[lyric silo]

prob

[honest badger]

what's the strat with void fiend? i hate this character

[limber tartan]

If any of you guys play on Steam Deck, are there any buttons/functions you think are good to put on the back grip buttons?

[honest badger]

active item use

and maybe special skills

[lyric silo]

stave off corruption with special until needed for burst dmg

[lavish jacinth]

try to hover around 75% corruption so you can quickly heal or go corrupt when you need to

and avoid healing items that are hard to control like wungus

[lyric silo]

ya

[lavish jacinth]

although is pretty good, crits will add 2% corruption so it's pretty easily be a net gain over the small amount lost from scythe if you don't stack it. Regen also doesn't affect it so is safe

otherwise he's a good all-rounder with a leaning towards procs

also you have 100 armor while corrupted, so you can play a lot more aggressively

[limber tartan]

Is there any way to tell what items do before I buy them? Like from the kiosk thing for $25 that lets you buy one of 3 items?

And also I spent $150 to download environment data or something like that. What does that do?

[honest badger]

not without a mod or the wiki

[mellow crystal]

only with mods rlly

[honest badger]

it shows all interactables in radius, like a radar scanner

[mellow crystal]

unlocks the logbook in the logbooks tab, no gameplay effect other than spending money afaik

[honest badger]

oh nvm? guess im stupid

[limber tartan]

Will that mod prevent me from getting achievements or unlocking stuff?

[honest badger]

no

[mellow crystal]

i dont think any mod does

[lavish jacinth]

there's a setting called "inspect item" that'll let you do it without a mod, I think you have to have picked it up at least once first though

[limber tartan]

Can I get it from the Steam workshop or is there something else I need to do? I'm on Steam Deck

[lavish jacinth]

it's under the umbrella settings thing on the first page

[lavish jacinth]

https://thunderstore.io/ is where all the mods live, although the mod manager (r2modman) is pretty much required if you wanna install them. No idea if it works on steam deck but #ror2-modding would probably know

[honest badger]

you can easily manual install but it's a bad idea for other reasons

[limber tartan]

What is the difference between that mod and "enable inspect" in the settings?

Oh I think it's just for the inventory page, not like in game?

[lavish jacinth]

which mod?

[limber tartan]

The one they said would show me what items do in game before I buy them

[honest badger]

i think it's called like PingItemDescriptions

[limber tartan]

I can't even see the name of the item before I buy them so I can't even look them up

[mellow crystal]

lookingglass is one too

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the inspect item thing does that

[honest badger]

wasn't sure if it did that

[honest badger]

i forget not everyone looks at an item and immediately has its name beamed into their brains

[lavish jacinth]

just walk up to an item or interactable and hit whatever button you'd press to look at your inventory, it gives you a prompt for it

[lavish jacinth]

does lookingglass let you see descriptions before picking an item up? I thought it just gave more detailed info AFTER you pick them up

[lavish jacinth]

also pingitemdescription hasn't been updated in a year so idk if it even works. And it probably won't be, since it's basically a vanilla feature now

[mellow crystal]

it lets you do so by pinging it yea

[lavish jacinth]

ah

[fresh umbra]

Not sure if this is better suited for here or #theorycrafting but is there a real animal the grovetender is based on? It kinda looks squirrel-like to me

[lavish jacinth]

I always thought it was vaguely raccoonish, but I'm not sure it's based on anything specific

it is simply a animal

[trim narwhal]

ill also add on, i see some people only save corruption for tp, but especially for weaker runs

its absolutely fine and very good to enter corruption to deal with swarm, dangerous elite, start of stage swarms, etc

enter corruption earlier and you can look into trimming down the horde substantially

if you enter when its already a complete mess, you won't be able to play as aggressively even with the damage reduction

uncorrupted state is pretty good for safe dps at range, with no falloff and a built in source of healing, but on a weak run you might just see yourself losing the dps vs spawn war. need to liberally corrupt to keep numbers down. the less threats the safer it is to corrupt, and the safer it is to corrupt the more aggressively you can play to kill, which means less enemies, etc

[quasi crystal]

what's a good amount of bead buff stacks to scrap it on

[weak crow]

depends, i usually scrap at the end of stage 3 or 4 if there is a scrapper

always scrap after tp

unless you're really desperate

[lavish jacinth]

20 stacks is usually a good place to stop, it's about 3-4 levels worth of stats

the buffs take longer and longer to get the more of them you have, just like regular levels. And it's a flat stat increase per stack

the only real reason to keep hanging onto beads is to try to get more stacks of the item itself, which does slightly increase the stats you get when you scrap it afaik
(which I think is slightly more optimal than scrapping one stack and then building up another? Hopefully someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong, I haven't run the exact numbers myself lol)

[quasi crystal]

I think it's like 5% per stack it's better to scrap then farm another quickly if possible

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, but they also get a permanent xp penalty when you scrap them, at least according to the wiki

hopefully someone who's better at math than me can run the numbers on this

[wind kernel]

Keep beads for growth nectad

Is usually the play for me

[lavish jacinth]

I wish it was easier to see how much of a buff beads actually give you

[light shadow]

with rai gunner if you one-shot enemies shatterspleen wont explode because they never get to bleed right?

[lavish jacinth]

correct

[light shadow]

experience brings knowledge ig

[lavish jacinth]

I know many semi-useless things about this game lmao

[fair lichen]

Is there a issue with seeker self rez? Had it not go off in a run several times now.

[daring cloak]

Seeker cant self revive yet

Its planned to come with roadmap update 3 (current version is roadmap update 1)

[fair lichen]

Ah, ok. I kept seeing people talk about a self rez and team rez. I know how to do the team rez, but was confused, cause I kept seeing people mention a self rez like it was already in game.

[minor wolf]

is rexes moveset meant to be like this

[wide parrot]

Yes

It makes more sense when you unlock the alts

All of the self-damaging abilities are on the right

[pearl wind]

whats the new secret way to get on the sots path

[wide parrot]

No one knows the updates been out for 3 minutes calm down

[pearl wind]

my b 🥷er (joke)

[south scaffold]

So… does anyone know if they have fixed Disturbed Impact’s log?

[minor wolf]

if im already doing the climb, is the green to continue or go back to the vanilla path

[marble osprey]

Green continues

[steady stone]

apparently it's in the bazaar, but im saying this secondhand since i cant play rn

a geode that guarantees it?

[marble osprey]

Wasn't mentioned in the patch notes so probably not but I don't think anyone knows for sure just yet

[wary lintel]

if you are on budget should you get risk of rain 2 with sotv, sots or just by itself?

[steady stone]

if you want the safest bet, sotv has already been fixed and such for a while, and you could wait for the 3rd part of the sots roadmap to buy it after

[minor wolf]

is the two false sons and aurelionites part of the dlc

update* two of those bosses spawned at once fsr

[livid wedge]

Aurellionite, the gold colored boss similar to the stone titans, is a base game boss

False son and halcyonites are dlc

[minor wolf]

i mean the fact two of each spawned

but i had swarms on so it makes sense now

[livid wedge]

Oh, did you have the artifact of swarms

Ye, that'd do it

[minor wolf]

immidiate death out of confusion in the false son boss

[peak jacinth]

yo nice burn is supposedly fixed lfg

[turbid hinge]

guys

[quasi crystal]

Did they fix invisible scorch worm projectiles

[wary lintel]

is it worth buying the game+all dlcs for mods or not

[ionic igloo]

I think it's worth buying the DLCs anyways but idk what mod would really make the DLCs more valuable

[wary lintel]

no as in i have all dlcs on ps5

[ionic igloo]

So what's the question? Buying them again?

[wary lintel]

yes

on pc though

[livid wedge]

Wait, doesn't the goat hoof outscale the antlers now after a few stacks?

[ionic igloo]

You already know how good the game is so only you can decide if you wanna buy it again.

But I would say wait for the next big sale

[honest badger]

chat does prime meridian count as a stage 3 now

[wary lintel]

ok thanks

[zealous adder]

Does anyone else call it "Sundered Groove"?

[wary lintel]

i shall now steal this idea thank you

[marble osprey]

If we're assuming you're able to keep the buffs constantly, then if you already have 1 antler then yeah a hoof is better than a second one
But that first antler offers so much that if we're talking only taking goat hooves vs only taking antlers, antlers stay ahead until you have 18 of each
More stacks of antlers also makes the orbs spawn more frequently which makes it easier to keep the buff up tho which is harder to directly compare

[ionic igloo]

for raw max speed, antler still starts better but hoof actually catches up

typo

but yeah what math guy said

[wary lintel]

out of sotv and sots what do you think is the best though

[ionic igloo]

void

[livid wedge]

Yeah, I get that realistically you're probably not going to have that many hoofs but it still bothers me it scales better than something that requires you to pick up a temporary buff

[wary lintel]

as in for replayability, looping and stuff

[zealous adder]

sotv

sotv might have a bit less content but the content is of much higher quality

[wary lintel]

ok thanks

do you think ror2 is good for like a game you place videos while listening to or not

or should i just buy a cheaper roguelike?

[zealous adder]

after playing a while you can get into a rhythm of gameplay so maybe

[willow olive]

Is there a line of dialouge that plays when you pause the game as The False Son

[tidal wyvern]

Are the False Son’s new animations only for the boss, or did the survivor version get the new animations too?

[willow olive]

Because I have heard it like 6 times

[marble osprey]

Only the boss afaik, the survivor is getting reworked in the next phase

[wide parrot]

Not that anyone is aware of

[zealous adder]

I say Ror2 is worth the price. But if you want a cheaper roguelike, I'd recommend Spelunky personally. (The King of Roguelikes)(imo)(Some people despise it though)($15)

[honest badger]

how does one play seeker

[wary lintel]

i mean i already have spelunky lol so im just going to take this as a sign to wait for the next discount

[zealous adder]

punch

You have to build up tranquility with your special. (Press the movement keys in the correct order)

Tranquility buffs all your abilities. (The special heals you as well)

Your base secondary will heal more if it hits more enemies.
Your utility lets you fly at the cost of quickly killing you.

[granite bobcat]

So they made improvements to Scorch Wurm and Halcyonite, but will they make changes to the Children in the future?

[quasi crystal]

the only issue with children is them getting stuck in a loop and not attacking

[willow olive]

Its some seeker of the storm monolouge going on about creatures when I tab out of the game

[ionic igloo]

SotV has a whole new item tier with Void items which introduces a little bit more thought into how you make a build (or it should in theory )

it adds more run variety by adding a new stage 1 2 and 3, and kinda sorta adds "events" via Void Seeds

[wary lintel]

oh ok, i may just wait for it to be on discount though

[ionic igloo]

it also gives Simulacrum, another alternate game mode

[livid wedge]

I'm gonna guess they also didn't fix the prayer beads

[daring cloak]

Fix what about the beads

[honest badger]

ror2 players will see they fixed every bug that was ever reported and be like "oh well i guess they didnt fix the bug where if you shout COWABUNGA and spin around three times you lose your save file"

[wary lintel]

I mean its not really about the dlc, just about whether buying all of it is worth it just for modding purposes or not

[livid wedge]

Where the stat calc happened after the beads were gone from inventory, not before

[steady stone]

it is kind of important though, because the devs rely on feedback on what to fix next from the players finding them

[livid wedge]

So if you scrapped the whole stack, you actually only got 15% of the levels because the calculation happened at 0 stacks

[steady stone]

id be surprised if the music bug doesnt get fixed decently high priority just because of #ror2-console-discussion

[fresh umbra]

LMFAO

[ionic igloo]

well the question in this case was "which DLC is better" and I think SotV is better for those reasons

[livid wedge]

It's been six months with no mention of the switch bug in any patch notes. I'm usually pretty hopeful but this is kind of disappointing

[marble osprey]

I thought that one had been fixed already

[wary lintel]

oh ok then, thanks for saying in that case

[wary lintel]

I forgot myself lol

[livid wedge]

I didn't see any mention of it being fixed. I'm going to test next run

Oh goody, because of the vields bug, I'm getting tier 2 elites on what should be stage 5

I think I'm gonna take a break from ror

Yeah, fuck this patch

[compact salmon]

Is disturbed impact log still bugged?

[quasi crystal]

Is warbonds blacklisted for turrets yet

[random nest]

why can i pick up infinite items? its picking up but also it isnt? i also have 1 trillion hp, is this glitch gonna corrupt my game in anyway? jw

[lavish jacinth]

How tf is that bug back again lol

On SotS launch happened when you were holding an elite equipment iirc (and maybe some other conditions, I forget)
But they fixed it

Also no, it's not gonna corrupt your game, lol.

[mellow crystal]

it's a multiplayer bug as far as i'm aware

don't know what exactly causes it since when i experienced it i was on modded and i was playing with my gf who was on a vacation in mexico (i live in the philippines) so there was also lag

[random nest]

The game had just started and I tryed to pick up a portaable shelf thing and it starting giving me millions of go

[random nest]

I think it’s a modded problem yeah

[quasi crystal]

It's happened to me solo

Are you using royal's longstanding solitude fix? @random nest my console started freaking out over it everytime the bug happened to me

[random nest]

im ngl i have zero idea what that is

i just started a modded game of ror2 with captian and the first item i got was given to me infinitely

at the end when i did 3 loops i couldnt even get hit

[daring cloak]

Well yeah the game just got an update

Most mods will naturally be broken

[random nest]

you right

[daring cloak]

Give it a few days

[livid wedge]

At least my switch was off so I didn't get the patch on that version

[round zinc]

guys real quick question is my game cooked? (might be mods + new patch but its still funny)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah probably

mods are very broken right now

[round zinc]

yeah i guess a mod is just giving me duped items

[quasi crystal]

why are there 2

[lavish jacinth]

because there are 2

it's just a thing that can happen

[honest badger]

it's an issue with LookingGlass, disable till it updates

[honest badger]

/\

[wet pendant]

does unstable transmitter still protect your ?

[rough ledge]

so how does the new entrance to alt path work????

i dont see anything changing whenever i hit the spikes in the newt alter

[supple vale]

I think I just discovered something new in the bazaar when I mark it, it's just called "???" and I can't find any info about it anywhere, also if I attack it, it disappears

[quasi crystal]

why is ror2 super laggy for me even in singleplayer

[rough ledge]

that involves the new entrance

i think

they said they added a new way to go alt path but didnt explain HOW

u have to hit it

[supple vale]

Alt path?

[lavish jacinth]

they also said they didn't want to spoil it tbf

[rough ledge]

yea but

[lavish jacinth]

path of the colossus

[rough ledge]

HOW

[lavish jacinth]

I think that's the point, explaining it would've spoiled it lol. They want us to figure it out

[lavish jacinth]

Was it like that before the update?

[rough ledge]

yea and i keep trying to figure it out to no avail

[lavish jacinth]

well uhhhh figure it out better, then

[mellow crystal]

search where the void reaches

specifically not in the void, somewhere it reaches

[rough ledge]

nothing

i hit both of the rocks

unless ur saying i got into the void fields??

[mellow crystal]

||you have to hit at least three geodes in the bazaar for it to lead to path of the colossus||

[rough ledge]

what??

[quasi crystal]

not really

[mellow crystal]

ok so
what exactly did you mean by rocks

[rough ledge]

the rocks in the bazaar that are new

[mellow crystal]

yeah you have to hit at least three

[rough ledge]

1 didnt spawn this time and i only found one other

[lavish jacinth]

okay, are you running any mods?

[quasi crystal]

no but i also am playing loader for the first time

[lavish jacinth]

well, I doubt loader is causing it, unless that's a very strange new bug

[mellow crystal]

i did some prismatic trials on loader so probably not
unless it's just really specifically on the regular game

[quasi crystal]

i have a 3060 and usually i can run the highest graphics no problem

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you don't need much to run ror2, I used to run it just fine on an i3 and a 1050ti with like 8gb ram.

[rough ledge]

wheres the third one?????????

one by blue portal, one near the void fields portal

right outside its entrance

[lavish jacinth]

I've also got a 3060 tho so I can do a run later and see if I have any issues

[mellow crystal]

you'll have to search since it works kinda like newt altars
7 possible spots (maybe more) but you're not gonna get all 7 every time

[lavish jacinth]

ror2 is also pretty CPU dependent though

[rough ledge]

i literally CANNOT find it

im loadering everywhere its just not there

I FOUND IT

ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE BLUE PORTAL IS SHITTY WORK

[marble osprey]

Bit late but yeah it does

[dense schooner]

if the host has a dlc, can other people join that person even if they don't have the dlc?

[mellow crystal]

yes

it'll be as if they also had the dlcs for as long as they're in the lobby
no access to dlc characters or unlocks via achievements tho afaik

[dense schooner]

so they get access to all of the items and content inside that dlc then?

[mellow crystal]

ye

items, enemies, stage features, etc

[dense schooner]

alr ty

[supple vale]

We have to find 3 of the halcyon spike things right?

[frank sluice]

iirc it doesn't have to be the host, can be anyone in lobby, but don't quote me on that

[quasi crystal]

It can be anyone

[copper pivot]

||anyone else not having the halcyonite rocks spawn in the bazaar?||

[supple vale]

So the void fields portal is just gone I don't think that's supposed to happen

[steady stone]

If you've already visited that run, you can't do it again.

[supple vale]

Oh

[steady swallow]

||is killing the false son with only 3 stages worth of items the way its supposed to be done? feels rly difficult||

[lavish jacinth]

It's possible to do in 3 stages, the fight in general is just meant to be difficult I think

and they did make halcyon shrines way more common on stage 1, so fighting it that early is probably intended (although you can also do it later if you want)

[steady swallow]

i feel like 3 stages is too hard and any stage above the first loop is too easy lmao

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, they did just rebalance it, I haven't had a chance to do it yet but from what I've heard it's way more fair than it used to be

[livid wedge]

I would disagree with that

The laser attack is somehow more obnoxious

[steady swallow]

i just tried it and got cooked by the lazer which is why i came here to ask

[livid wedge]

Yeah, the fact that the laser is just as annoying but now he can just rush over to whoop you is more annoying than originally

[steady swallow]

im more pissed at the fact that false son can attack you while the lazer is active

[livid wedge]

Same

[crystal cliff]

So what's this new way to get to Prime Meredian? Is it just the moon frog or something else?

[olive spade]

"Rebalanced Gold to XP ratio of Longstanding Solitude" By what numbers

[quasi crystal]

Someone would need to see the code

[olive spade]

vague patch notes are so annoying

[quasi crystal]

To be fair the item itself is vague

[copper needle]

||in the Bazaar Between Time there are Gold geodes that spawns ( for me three spawned random preset location) once you destroy them all a Green Portal will appear between the blue portal and the shop.

Tho the run after doing the secret way the geodes stopped spawning||

[fossil heron]

I died to Mythrix on moonsoon:
tips for a newbie? (17hrs) I insist on completing my first moonsoon run with comando

[mellow crystal]

would've been nice if he didn't attack you during the laser and to explain away him not doing anything he like
did a sort of summon-type animation similar to the stone titan's for the laser chargeup then pointed his club at you while it fired

like he's commanding the statue or calling on the power of providence or smth

[lavish jacinth]

biggest one would be to loot stages as much as possible and don't rush, a good rule of thumb is to full-clear and try to get at least 1 item per minute, with a little extra time set aside for using printers and scrappers and stuff

that also includes buying drones if you've got extra cash for them, but items are priority. You basically wanna do as much as possible on each stage as efficiently as you can

[fossil heron]

problem is if I take too long I'll go in stage 3 with very hard or Impossibile difficulty

and then elites will appear, worst ones being Elder Lemurs

[lavish jacinth]

trust me, looting is worth it

[mellow crystal]

also since you're on mando absolutely try to learn what items are best on him since he's one of the more item-dependent survivors overall
generally proc items (stuff with a % chance to trigger like ) are good
if you find a printer for a proc item it might be worth trading some of your current items for it

[lavish jacinth]

items are you how get stronger, you'll never outrun the timer no matter how fast you go

also, the difficulty ramps up by 15% for every stage you complete, so you really wanna make the most of each one

[fossil heron]

oki

thank you guys have an amazing day👍

[cyan vortex]

Are sticky bombs or tri tip daggers better?...please explain..and why are crit glasses better or worse than either

[quasi crystal]

I mean it's very survivor dependant?

[crude current]

What was that update today

[lavish jacinth]

check #announcements

[quasi crystal]

for example does not care about tri tip, barely benefits from crit glasses and does nuclear burst damage so she would vastly prefer stickies

[lavish jacinth]

depends on survivor
bleed does a fixed amount of damage (240% base) over 3 seconds, but every time a stack is applied, that timer resets and the damage increases. It's very strong on survivors that can get a lot of rapid procs focused on one enemy, such as , but is pretty much useless for slow heavy hitters that can't stack it quickly and don't care about the small amount of flat damage like

sticky bomb is easier, it does total damage, meaning it's a % of the hit that procced it. Total damage procs are good on basically everybody, including heavy hitters, because it scales with the strength of their attacks even though they won't proc it as often

and crit is more or less comparable to sticky bomb, it's just a chance to double the damage of a hit. Again, good on basically everyone (except railgunner, her passive makes crit a lot worse)

[quasi crystal]

Bandit also is better off using item real estate elsewhere

[cyan vortex]

So should I take bombs or dagger for commando?

[quasi crystal]

Dagger

[cyan vortex]

Okii

Oh and I'm in e1 or 2 as commando and went to the void...the enemies have hooks of heresy...should I just leave the void...

[quasi crystal]

Sticky bombs do more raw damage than crit but crit always boosts your procs while a lot of procs have a pitiful chance to trigger a sticky

Most enemies don't have an m2 so you should be OK just watch out

[lavish jacinth]

ehh, it might be fine, most enemies don't use their secondary skill much. Usually it's just a melee attack so keep them at a distance

and some don't have a secondary at all, it just depends on the enemy

[cyan vortex]

Stone titans💀...and my build is ending up very crit based even though I'm on stage 2

[quasi crystal]

Are you looping lol

[cyan vortex]

Nope jus started

[lavish jacinth]

???? how are you getting stone titans in vields on stage 2

did you afk on stage 1 for like half an hour or something

[cyan vortex]

Oh golems sorry

[quasi crystal]

Lol

For golem I forget which skill is m2

[cyan vortex]

Snipe

Can I send a picture of my current inventory?

[lavish jacinth]

you can if you have a role, #roles

[cyan vortex]

Okity

[lavish jacinth]

pretty solid overall

[cyan vortex]

JUS GOT PLIMP

4...

Died... because I tried to leave....are u never allowed to leave early??

[lavish jacinth]

no, you are

[cyan vortex]

Void damage stacks overtime?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[cyan vortex]

Ouch ...

[lavish jacinth]

they changed that in the update today, it ramps up if you're in it too long

[cyan vortex]

I should've tried to run back...

I unlocked shotguns a few days ago and it feels amazing..it gives him the powerspikes

And where are the patch notes? Sorry for all the questions

[lavish jacinth]

linked in #announcements

[lavish jacinth]

dw about it, it's what the channel is for lol

we hang out in here because we're nerds and like to talk about the game

[quasi crystal]

You know fax you've been mentioned outside these confines

[lavish jacinth]

oh, I'm sure I have

despite my best efforts, I think I've accidentally become a recurring character in the rorcord anime

[cyan vortex]

Oop

How often should I scrap reds?...I really dislike certain ones...and do headstompers scale well?

[lavish jacinth]

headstompers is extremely strong

the aoe caps out at 10,000% damage with a 100m radius, provided you can get enough height to use it. And even if not, it can be a very strong burst

[cyan vortex]

Should I be using void fields in eclipse?

And shaped glass...I love it to death..

[lavish jacinth]

and scrapping reds is very situational, there aren't a lot of cases where you actually get to use red scrap. The main one is usually just the white item soup on the moon, since red printers are extremely rare. Usually I'd only scrap them if it's something that'd be useless against mithrix, like
(which is sad because meat hook is really good 😔 )

[lavish jacinth]

not in e8, but for the other levels you can if you want, it's just risky

[cyan vortex]

Voidsent flame and crowbar...good together?

[lavish jacinth]

usually they're not

but it sorta depends ig

if the initial hit takes the enemy below 90%, then voidsent won't benefit

[cyan vortex]

Yeaaa....

So primary fire then burst abilities?

For commando if I have both

And should I be using shaped glass early on or nu

Or at all?

[lavish jacinth]

probably, unless you've got an even better burst option that would benefit from the crowbar more

[lavish jacinth]

again, up to you. Probably safest to only take it after you've got something like that can reliably eat hits for you though

or drones to draw aggro or something

[cyan vortex]

Actually the question I'm asking is: does the double damage continue to double the damage of items after picking it up? Does it scale as fast as enemies do?

[quasi crystal]

It's exponential

[onyx scroll]

1KL687
¨'

whoops my cat :D

[cyan vortex]

So...good?

[lavish jacinth]

glass doubles the damage of everything, yes

[onyx scroll]

Any word on the disturbed impact log yet?

[quasi crystal]

2 glasses will quadruple 3 will x8

Sorry that wasn't your question lol but wanted to tell you

[lavish jacinth]

nothing confirmed yet, but if anyone finds out, https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1336423150249840670 is probably where it'll get posted

[onyx scroll]

Thanks for the heads up

[lavish jacinth]

also, items will always continue benefitting other items that you pick up later

enemies will always outscale your damage, you can't just pick up one thing and have that single-handedly carry you for the rest of the run, if that's what you mean.
You counter the scaling by picking up different items so that they build on your existing ones

like, you pick up and get some dps from that
pick up , that also gives some dps, but atg can also proc sticky bombs for even more dps
get to make those proc chains happen faster, or more proc items to chain together for exponentially more damage
throw in a multiplier like glass or to increase all of that damage
etc..

[quasi crystal]

[lavish jacinth]

I thought of that after I posted that, but I just typed a whole paragraph and decided to show restraint for once lmao

[somber pollen]

does the void dlc make the void fields fog damage ramp up over time? recently got the dlc and i could've sworn it didn't do that before

[lavish jacinth]

nope, that was changed in the update today

along with some other rebalances to void fields, and a bunch of other stuff

[somber pollen]

wow that's brutal
was confused since i looked on the wiki and it didn't say anything about it, guess it's not up to date yet lol

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the update happened less than 24 hours ago lol

[quasi crystal]

Honestly the change is overly complicated

[lavish jacinth]

kinda yeah

it also sounds like they made it increment the stage counter again

(unintentionally)