ror2-game-questions

[quasi crystal]

Bands were not damage based on launch

[full apex]

yea

[quasi crystal]

Were bands even in the game before aquaduct

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure bands and aqueduct were always in the game

[quasi crystal]

Day 1 footage I've seen always shows wetland and roost

[lavish jacinth]

patch notes on the wiki say that they were in the initial launch

[quasi crystal]

I see

Titanic plains too?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

only one variant of it though

[quasi crystal]

That map is so boring I forget it has 2

[full apex]

im almost positive we launched with plains and roost. i think we had two variants for 1 and 2, but only one 3 and 4?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I think the original lineup was plains, roost, aqueduct, wetland, rallypoint and depths

[full apex]

scorched came later, it had its own update, and sirens was when lodr arrival. but like gesture was base game

gesture requires plains

[quasi crystal]

Yeah I was always wondering how you got gesture without plains lol
Guess it's just kind of odd the only footage I can find of the very first build all had roost and wetland

[lavish jacinth]

didn't the old pre-launch trailer have titanic plains in it? The weird one with the unreal engine artstyle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ-aR--gScM

man, I forgot how cursed that trailer is. It's like an alternate universe where ror2 got turned into some generic AAA shooter

[inner viper]

RTX on

[mellow crag]

Hi, sorry if its a dumb question but if i have the ps4 physical disk, can i upgrade it on my ps5?

[lavish jacinth]

I think so, but you might ask #ror2-console-discussion to be sure

[mellow crag]

Okay, thank you. Ill go do that

[ruby totem]

What in the hell is that silhouette at the end???

[inner viper]

so Mithrix wasn't always in the game right

and I can only assume that was proto-mithrix

when Hopoo knew they wanted a final boss in the game but were still actually in the process of making it

[ruby totem]

That's what I assumed but it seems so... Weird

Like I would think it would look more like RoR1 Providence than anything

[inner viper]

I suppose they wanted him to be more remiscent of providence visually since they are brothers, but dropped that angle of him as it went on

[ancient brook]

how do i get rid of lunars? i just accidentally picked up the heretic primary and i don't want it

[lavish jacinth]

you have to find a cleansing pool

[visual turtle]

Only way is to go to a cleansing pool or to pick up egocentrism and hope it takes it. Otherwise you're stuck with it

[ancient brook]

if i pick up egocentrism that will lead to another problem

[visual turtle]

Yeah lol

[ancient brook]

having egocentrism

[lavish jacinth]

pools also only spawn on certain maps and are pretty rare, except on aphelian sanctuary

[visual turtle]

Yeah I was about to say Aphelian sanctuary has a really high chance for pools

[visual turtle]

Oh sense I mentioned Ego as a really niche way I should probably also mention the other very niche way of picking up Eulogy Zero and hoping you get a lunar printer, then you can safely dispose of all lunars, but at that point you're better off hoping for a pool.

[lavish jacinth]

that's not how eulogy zero works

it doesn't change the cost of the printer, just the output

[visual turtle]

What?? Wow I had no idea, I've seen them but never used them, now I feel dumb, thx for letting me know though

[hoary sedge]

so wait if you see a lunar printer with e0 you have no idea if it takes whites or greens?

that's really funny actually

[steady stone]

You can ping it i believe

It will say like "Printer (1 white item)"

[hoary sedge]

fair but gambling is way more fun

[lavish jacinth]

just look at the color of the text

[manic tusk]

Me and a friend of mine are trying to do a match together on switch. I have online but he doesn't, do any of you know what we could do? We live roughly in the same town, only he's in the countryside of it, if that helps with anything.

[vague tinsel]

I know that guy

[daring cloak]

Well either you play through online multiplayer where both of you need online or you play through local multiplayer where you need to be close enough for your switches to connect directly to each other

[vague tinsel]

:/

[manic tusk]

I also noticed that the matches says something about being private, does that mean anything?

[daring cloak]

Well if your make your lobby public anyone could join through quickplay

[vague tinsel]

How do that?

[daring cloak]

Well for quickplay you also need online

[manic tusk]

For both or only one?

[daring cloak]

Both

[vague tinsel]

[daring cloak]

Its either you both play through online or you meet up somewhere to play locally

[manic tusk]

Alright, thanks for the help though.

[vague tinsel]

Like my selfie?

Thanks anyway wertus

[flint prawn]

yikes

[candid berry]

How i can active this in my game?

This ss its from a video

[daring cloak]

Its a mod

Lookingglass to be specific

[candid berry]

ohh kk thxx bro

[daring cloak]

Actually idk if that one is lookingglass but lookingglass is the best one that currently works

[full apex]

Is it just my copy, or is it kinda just broken since sots? Like since the initial sots launch my lookingglass does not show live damage, only base. Not even scaled for level lol.

The rest of it seems fine.

I haven't bothered trying to reinstall anything but its been updated a few times and the damage stat still doesn't work, so ive kinda just assumed the mod is broken lol

[lavish jacinth]

probably just your copy, it works fine for me

[full apex]

Damn. Alright, guess I should try and fix it then lol

[flint prawn]

This is Looking Glass just to confirm

[marble osprey]

lookingGlass does have options to customize what's shown in that window, I'd try taking a look at that

[full apex]

An option to only show un-levelled base damage sounds weird, so i assume it's broken, but config is probably a good place to start

[marble osprey]

yeah i looked at it a bit and theres [baseDamage] which seems to just be that, base damage at level 1, and then theres [damage], which does consider the damage increase from levelling up (and from prayer beads)

[normal elk]

will prismatic trial top 10% ever get anything?

[marble osprey]

Probably not, or at the very least not for a pretty long time

[high forum]

nope

[normal elk]

ok thats fine its fun

[proud crag]

does nukuhana's still work with transendance

[high forum]

technically yes but it's not a very good idea to have both

it's something about the way works, where it's based off of how much you heal, but since shields can't be forced like health can, it's not very effective

[hoary sedge]

doesn't nkuhanas work even if you don't actually gain any health from the healing though

I would be more worried about it using the base 1 HP from transcendence as the energy cap and firing skulls that do 1 damage. Wiki says shields also count but that's fandom so idrk

[lavish jacinth]

the wiki is generally pretty accurate when it comes to that kind of thing, also we use wiki.gg now

[hoary sedge]

right i forgor

[lavish jacinth]

the problem with n'khuana's and transc is that a lot of healing items in the game are based on a percentage of your health, which means you'll only get 1hp with transcendence

it does still technically work, it's just really hard to build up energy. or maybe would be your best options if you really wanna make it work

[ruby totem]

With it works pretty fine

[lavish jacinth]

not really, that's still %health

[ruby totem]

I didn't see the transcendence part lol my bad

[quasi crystal]

does use 1 hp for damage when you have

[lavish jacinth]

nope, it includes shields as maximum health

[inner viper]

be funny if it did

[full apex]

The fnuuy is just that the max hp is calc'd with the shield included, so especially since it's a health up it makes it take more, but then makes all your % healing heal off of 1 green hp. The numbers won't show smaller than 1, but you can heal less than 1. So like a wungus will heal you 0.02 per second and you'll have hundreds of combined hp to fill for a single skull lmao

If it did launch based on hp only though, it would be 10% of 1, x2.5, so 0.25 damage skulls lol

[slim spoke]

that really is lookingglass

[crude hemlock]

Anyone able to suggest some decent Duo teams? we have only just clawed our way through Medium (other good runs were used for obliterate unlock and acrid unlock) and ive been messing with railgunner which is kinda fun

[high forum]

Artificer and Loader can be fun (Loader can make good use of Artificer’s verticality if she attaches her grappling hook to her)

[crude hemlock]

Artificer was well hard for me to get used to

my mate is lame and just plays hunter or the cowboy one

Loader is also alot of fun but mthrix just can slap me about

durain fruit throwing bells come out and one shot you or the void green flying gits

[foggy hornet]

Pick characters who don't need the same stuff. I.e. commando is a proc demon while someone like artificer is a huge burst shitter

This doesn't work with mobility from my experience unless you actually cooperate and don't loot goblin shit. Don't take a turtle and a sprinter (i.e. engi and acrid) unless you can properly distribute mobility

[foggy hornet]

It all comes down to proper item distribution basically, make sure you share and characters won't really matter in co-op

Also for total Monsoop domination try to always do void fields after stage 1

Scavenge whatever you can if shit gets hard

I mostly play coop with my friends and runs with early void fields are almost always ez won runs

[foggy hornet]

Huntress is a glass pool noodle and bandit is commando with less reliance on crits

[foggy hornet]

If you play loader like a melee brawler then you are doing it wrong despite the game trying to imply that it is the correct way to play the character

Same with acrid

You do hit and runs with your shift and thunderslam/epidemic and also take visions of heresy in the bazaar to do damage from afar which is much better than being in Mithrix's face

Acrid is also a very strong co-op character because his poison will always reliably (but veerryy slowly) kill Mithrix provided that the Acrid lives throughout the whole fight

[foggy hornet]

Never stop moving and they will 97.5% of the time not hit you

In case of loader retreat immediately after a punch

Also you can replace most characters' shift with Strides of Heresy because the invincibility is very good and is on a short cooldown

I even sacrifice arti's freeze for it

Because I hate how slow she is without strides

[inner viper]

REX is good with anyone

[foggy hornet]

Healing fruit

[crude hemlock]

Ah yeh usually I would just be like charging uppercut, then whip back punch then uppercut again for example

[crude hemlock]

Yeah it was just trying to work that out

Then learnt about who needs proc items Vs errr whatever it is

[crude hemlock]

Ah yeah I like him as well. Tbh it's my friend who just plays the same two, he will probably be bandit again tonight

[foggy hornet]

Force him to play seeker she's the most coop character to ever coop

[crude hemlock]

Then when he vanishs and every git on the map comes for me, is surprised when I die

[foggy hornet]

Free revives on every stage and stat boosts for the whole team

[crude hemlock]

Is seeker in the dlc? We just bought the void one yesterday

[foggy hornet]

Yes she is from the second dlc

[crude hemlock]

Damn

[foggy hornet]

You should buy it, it makes the game 999x easier

Every item it introduces is either good or op

[crude hemlock]

This is also what I'm learning, before I would be taking like soilder syringe and like rings and such thinking it was great

[foggy hornet]

Rings are good on anyone

One of the most essential items, same with atgs

[crude hemlock]

Ah yh but it could be better for like railgunner or in my coop case bandit rigbt

[foggy hornet]

Yup

But in coop if my friend has a band I'll probably take the next one

[crude hemlock]

So acrid I would want like gas can/bleed dagger/guitar an such

The skull..marked

[foggy hornet]

Yeah

Acrid is the proc chain character ukulele is essential for him

Because his R causes a shit ton of hits with a good proc coefficent

And ukulele multiplies that

Combine that with atgs or plasma shrimps (void atg) and shit gets fucked

[crude hemlock]

One of the runs I had 4 crowbars as railgunner and I shot 75% off the double jelly hp off. They instantly did the super nova and yeeted me off the map while my partner blink/dipped out lol

[crude hemlock]

Nice ok

I was going in and using M1 and the odd M2. Now to reverse that

[foggy hornet]

Are you familliar with the lunar items

this thing in particular

If not then become familliar with this thing in particular; it is eye opening on Acrid

[crude hemlock]

Most of them are bstrds unless you want to be birdman I found

Is the meteorite one? I have that to a drone, that was a fun time 😂

[foggy hornet]

It's the one that replaces your M1 with birdman's

It's good on acrid because it provides solid long range damage with great proc coefficent

Really compliments his other long range abilities and movement

[foggy hornet]

Meteorite drone is a coop classic

Honestly big shame there are no new lunar equipments, their extremely questionable usability (except for tonic) is hilarious

[inner viper]

yeah the only new equipment we got is honestly pretty boring

[crude hemlock]

haha i dont even mind it, its the fkin black screen it gives you, my friend was crying everytime it went off lol

[crude hemlock]

ah nice one. I will keep an eye out for it. I usually just get the teleport speed

Yet to work out what the hellfire one is for, suicide

its also a shame you cant unlock birdman, like maybe convert to him 10x to unlock or something

[foggy hornet]

Extremely questionably useful if you get tons of healing and razorwires or something

[daring cloak]

Yeah its pretty powerful with razorwire

You can also give the tincture to an equipment drone and intentionally let yourself get burned by it. The damage is negligible and unlike when you use it yourself, roll of pennies works if an ally uses the tincture

And the amount of money pennies generates like this is insane

[foggy hornet]

Genius shit

[crude hemlock]

Ohh big brain

I think when I used it it nearly killed me, but must have been early with no hp regen items or something

[vale quartz]

Somone send me the fanart channel I can’t find it plz

[daring cloak]

Oh also

[foggy hornet]

#ror-art-and-content

[daring cloak]

Tincture works with ignition tank
In both ways

[vale quartz]

Ty

[foggy hornet]

Yeah you only take it if you have crazy healing and will get more, also it's very character dependent because it does your max hp damage (increased by a lot), so fatter characters will do more damage than say huntress

[daring cloak]

So if you have a few ignition tanks you can deal massive damage but will also quickly get brought down to 1 hp yourself

[foggy hornet]

This would've been op with the old raincoat

God I wish they unnerf it

Or keep the nerf and make it green

[opal zealot]

is there any particular strategy to avoiding lesser wisps/blind pests without mobility items?

[foggy hornet]

Just run

[opal zealot]

in what direction

[foggy hornet]

Run in a circle. Wisps are hitscan and may be undodgeable but blind pests are not unless there is a pack of them above you

Or just run somewhere

[daring cloak]

90 degrees away from the trajectory of the wisp shot

[daring cloak]

Just run as much to the side as possible

And time a jump

[foggy hornet]

Pests shoot for where you were not where you are, same with all projectiles

[foggy hornet]

So just do this and it's gg

[opal zealot]

so what do I do if there are multiple

[daring cloak]

Kill them

[foggy hornet]

Wisps and pests are your priority targets

[daring cloak]

And try to avoid as many as possible

Just run in the direction where the least amount of wisps are aiming towards

[honest raft]

i was doing voidling fight i think i got to last phase where u get stuck in void zone and have t o fight him how do u do that without just dying to the void zone eventually

[daring cloak]

The void fog disappears around voidling

You just cant stay too far away

[honest raft]

he spawned sofar away how do i to get to him in time

[daring cloak]

Movement speed

[marble osprey]

Get away as quickly as possible until you can go in a big circle around all of them

[timid basalt]

Does anyone know what are good builds for artificier to beat false son?

[lavish jacinth]

If you wanna cheese it you can just get war bonds plus like 5-6 stacks of , and whatever other damage items you feel like throwing in. That combo alone basically removes all bosses from the game

But if you wanna do it more legitimately and aren't planning on looping, then you'll really want a good amount of move speed, you can't cheese it with ion surge like you can with Mithrix since the laser can still hit you, and he can't be frozen. is particularly nice now that attack speed also affects her primary cooldown. Damage can kinda be whatever you want, is obviously great for flame bolt but it's always best to mix different sources, total damage procs and multipliers are your friend

Or, you can just loop until you're overpowered enough to delete him with zero effort, since he's way squishier than the other final bosses, but it's pretty annoying to get back to path of the colossus after stage 1

[vague tinsel]

Which dlc should I get?

I just got the game this Christmas after a friend convinced me to. I'll eventually get both dlcs anyway but, which one do you guys think is better?

[high forum]

SotV is more complete

[lavish jacinth]

definitely get sotv first, yeah

seekers is still pretty rough around the edges, it's getting better but not quite there yet

[timid basalt]

thanks

[vague tinsel]

I was doing some research, and I like seekers of the storm better anyway. Thank guy!

[woven echo]

My buddies an I are playing RN what is this debuff ?

the heart stack and this wierd blue fractured thing on our health bars

[daring cloak]

Thats the new icon for lunar ruin

Lunar ruin itself also got changed slightly

[woven echo]

ok we have been rippping our hair out for like 10 minutes trying to figure it out

thew wiki need updated

[daring cloak]

The debuff currently makes you take 10% more damage per stack and iirc reduces regen but idk the actual amount of that

It used to also slow you down but thats been removed

[lavish jacinth]

are you looking at the right wiki? it's got the correct description, although it doesn't mention the visual effect on the healthbar

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Status_Effects#Lunar_Ruin

[woven echo]

https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Status_Effects

this is the wiki we were looking at

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, we mainly use wiki.gg

[woven echo]

never heard of it lol

[lavish jacinth]

it's basically fandom but good lol

[woven echo]

huh

well thanks guys

good to know both what it is and that wiki is there

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

hopefully someday the fandom wiki will stop showing up in search results

but occasionally google still tries to bring you to the ancient ror1 wiki so probably not lmao

[woven echo]

why its not that bad

also its not the risk of rain 1 wiki its the ROR2 wiki

[lavish jacinth]

I know, I'm just saying that trying to search for the ror2 wiki is really annoying

but fandom just kinda sucks, wiki.gg is the same thing but without 50 ads per page and it's actually usable on mobile, so we've been trying to switch over to it

[merry arch]

whats the quickest way to get spiked fist? ive been trying for a while, and i keep seeing people rave about how good it is

[lavish jacinth]

just play drizzle and rush to stage 8, loader's OP enough to do it no problem with barely any items

although spiked fist really isn't that good honestly, the fact that it does damage means it can waste crowbar's bonus

imho it's a downgrade just for that, the stun is nice but other than that it's completely identical to the default grapple

[merry arch]

ok that is good to know

i am aware that it is a downgrade, but i still am just trying to get all of loaders abilities, as loader is probably one of my favorite charicters

[lavish jacinth]

fair enough

[merry arch]

well sidegrade ig

tbh i just still want to get it

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there isn't really a trick to that unlock besides playing on drizzle, you kinda just have to do it

[merry arch]

yeah

fair

[lavish jacinth]

oh, helps a little bit ig, I always forget that thing exists lol

[merry arch]

oh ok

il have to try that

[ionic igloo]

I think I did it with command/swarms/sacrifice

swarm/sacrifice is an op combo and also means here you completely ignore the looting aspect, saving lots of time per stage

command is obvious and lets you choose the god build

[merry arch]

wait what does and how do you get the artifact of sacrifice?

[ionic igloo]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts

[merry arch]

thanks

[marble osprey]

I mean I think for any enemy that gets put out of crowbar range by that it doesn't really matter for loader

Like if a enemy takes more than 10% of its health to that then it gets one-shot by charged punch with or without crowbar

[ionic igloo]

for the actual build I just did the hellfire tincture build

• get a few armor plates
• like 3 or 4 razorwires oughta be good
• gesture
• hellfire tincture
• 4 fuel cells
• planula

[merry arch]

oh ok

oh yeah i dont have the gesture of the drowned, what is in general the easiest way to get it

[ionic igloo]

hellfire tincture damages you, but the RAP will mitigate that, and then planula will then actually heal you instead because you're probably only taking 1s

then because you're taking damae, razorwire is procing 5 times per second

[ionic igloo]

[merry arch]

yeah iv heard its obnoxios to get

[inner viper]

just loop to titanic plains

[merry arch]

thats a good point actually

[inner viper]

and make hermit crabs take the quick and easy solution

[ionic igloo]

the only way without mods is to loop titanic plains and run hermit crabs off the edge

[small fog]

dont get super op and 1 shot everything

[merry arch]

oh ok

[ionic igloo]

I say that because there are some mods that change spawn pools, one of them adding crabs to sulfur pools

[merry arch]

even if you are super op and 1 shot everything, couldnt you still chase them off? assuming you dont have a item that kills in a area around you, or razerwire

[ionic igloo]

yeah you can still do that

[inner viper]

yes because they run whenever you get close to them
really slowly, but it's something

[lavish jacinth]

ehh, it can happen, especially if you've got multiple crowbars. spiked fist does just enough damage that it can waste crowbar even on bigger targets

it's not a huge problem, but when the only upside is the stun and being able to kill wisps a little easier early on, it's not worth the tradeoff imo

[marble osprey]

Maybe if crowbar is like your only damage source but with even a single ice band you need 3 crowbars for it to even be possible and the enemy needs to be at a near perfect amount of health for that
I always play with spiked grapple and I've never once noticed it being an issue, while its ability to kill wisps early is always a benefit

[lavish jacinth]

crowbar being your only damage source makes it less likely if anything, unless you mean that you've printed a ton of them. I've had it happen when you start throwing in watches, crit, procs etc

like I said, it's a small downside for a small upside, and I don't care enough about the upside to wanna use it

plenty of other ways to deal with wisps

[merry arch]

and using wisps as grapple points is fun

[lavish jacinth]

that too

[marble osprey]

Watches, crit, and procs have no effect on the math here, since they apply equally to the charged punch and the grapple hit

[lavish jacinth]

yes they would?
they'd increase the damage of the spiked fist hit and would be multiplicative with crowbar (well procs might not be but you know what I mean)

[marble osprey]

Yeah but the charged punch is also multiplied so it's overall irrelevant
Although crit technically could but only if the grapple crits and the punch doesn't tbf

[lavish jacinth]

the more damage the spiked fist hit does, the more likely it is that they'll be below 90% by the time you hit them with charged

[marble osprey]

Yeah but also the more damage the charged punch does the less it matters if they are

If the charged punch can one-shot without crowbar, it's irrelevant

[inner viper]

it usually doesn't consistently do that without crowbars

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it doesn't matter at all for fodder enemies, but it definitely can for bigger stuff

[marble osprey]

It does on enemies that are weak enough to get out of crowbar range by hitting it with the grapple

It doesn't matter at all on fodder enemies, and bigger enemies are tanky enough that they don't get out of crowbar range by grapple
There's a very tiny range in the middle there where it hypothetically could happen if you have a very specific build and that's it

[lavish jacinth]

point is, the actual benefit of spiked fist is small, and I'd rather just not take it and guarantee that my biggest hit is gonna benefit from crowbar

[marble osprey]

Your biggest hit rarely does anyway since it's usually ice band

[lavish jacinth]

I'm not even saying spiked fist is bad, I'm just saying it's not very good, and definitely not a straight upgrade

And if you don't have a band?

there's no reason not to still take advantage of crowbar

[marble osprey]

When does loader not have bands, besides early enough on in the run that being able to take care of wisps easily is a decent benefit?

[lavish jacinth]

on runs where RNG doesn't give you bands...??

also pylon exists, and so do items that can kill wisps

or just ignore them because loader is indestructible, all they're good for is money

[marble osprey]

Sure I'm not saying the upside is huge but the downside you're talking about is practically non-existent

[small fog]

I mean tbh just grapple onto ur special to gain speed for your punch instead of an enemy it doesnt matter which grapple you use

[lavish jacinth]

it's something that always ends up annoying me whenever I run spiked

(and fwiw I've been saying since the beginning that this is my opinion so none of this matters lmao)

[marble osprey]

Oh also I forgot charged punch has heavy so it's actually even more difficult for this to ever be a problem than I've been saying, mb

[lavish jacinth]

....why does that matter at all

[marble osprey]

^

[lavish jacinth]

charged punch doing more damage just means you're losing more damage that crowbar could've given it

[marble osprey]

It means you actually need even more crowbars for it to be possible for an enemy to take more than 10% health from grapple and still not get one-shot by charged punch
It doesn't matter how much damage you dealt if they're dead either way

[lavish jacinth]

I fully acknowledge that objectively, the difference isn't that huge, I just don't like spiked fist ¯(ツ)/¯

[marble osprey]

And that's fair, use whatever you like, I'm just saying this particular reason is objectively not realistic

[lavish jacinth]

also this is still very valid, pulling enemies to you is funny but basically useless, but having every flying enemy be a potential grapple point is handy

[marble osprey]

See that's a valid reason no disagreement there

[quasi crystal]

I find loader heavy so weirdly inconsistent sometimes I'm breaking the sound barrier with crowbars on stage 1 and the enemy takes a quarter then the very next gauntlet I use will be off a wisp swing and I'll obliterate the boss

[lavish jacinth]

the struggles of scaling damage based on physics

[quick zephyr]

Is there a glitch where the TP doesn't spawn?

Or like it spawns out of range?

I've been on stage 19 for awhile now and I don't see the TP anywhere. It looks like there may be some sparkles, but they're up in the air at the top of the map

it's this map

[lavish jacinth]

nope
if you can see the "find the teleporter" objective, then the teleporter must exist somewhere, because the teleporter object is what makes that objective appear

try turning on teleporter particle scaling in settings or whatever it's called, it makes the sparkles way easier to see from a distance

[small fog]

have you checked that weird hidden cave passage

[quick zephyr]

I didn't see the cave on this stage

I had it earlier in the run though

I think I saw the particles, but they were above the map. It was hard to get a picture of that so I skipped it

It's alright though- I admitted defeat and I'll try to redo my run another time

[small fog]

also why are you on a 2 hour drizzle run

nothing bad about it just curious

[quick zephyr]

I was trying to get to stage 20 for the clover

[small fog]

ohh fair enough

[small fog]

dont give up you can find it

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it definitely wouldn't have been up there, the sparkles you saw were probably just part of the environment

if the cave wasn't open it was probably tucked in some weird corner where it was hard to spot or something. RIP run tho

[inner viper]

Abyssal can be annoying when looking for Teleporter especially if you don't know the area well

the actual TP is the same color as the ground
the particles are orange as well as the entire stage being orang

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the whole stage is the same color palette as the teleporter lol

same with sky meadows

[lavish jacinth]

but seriously, this setting makes a huge difference, you can spot the teleporter from space with it on

[inner viper]

and learn to listen for the TP
it makes very distinct noises and like, it distorts the music when you are close to it as well

and once you hear it it's like a sore thumb

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that can help narrow down the location if it's behind a wall or something, it's pretty much impossible to hear if you aren't already near it though

[weak crow]

i swear when i first started playing for the first few dozen runs i kept getting stuck on stage 4 abyssal depths because I didn't know the damn cave existed

[dusk shell]

hey guys i pick up roll of pennies and longstanding solitude but getting hit dont give me any exp, why? is it a bug?

[hollow tiger]

i think its on level up gold gets converted

[livid wedge]

Should be converted immediately. However, the amount you get is small so it's probably converted before you see it

[hoary sedge]

so ls is really weird and doesn't actually convert gold directly to XP (if it did that it'd be terrible bc the XP requirements scale exponentially). instead, once you collect a small chests worth of gold, it gives you 1/10 of the XP you need for the next level. so it probably just didn't hit that threshold so you didn't see any change

[crude hemlock]

Question but if you want to obliterate on monsoon, is there a boss fight (with void dlc on?)

following the advice I got here yesterday we made it to stage 7 which was 3 stages futher than normal lol

[steady stone]

No, there's only a boss fight if you take

Hence the "seems to do nothing, but..." on beads

[crude hemlock]

Oh intresting, my friend said he looped and got to the oblit bit and was like AHHH I made it. then said he ended up in a boss fight which killed him

[steady stone]

this guy probably

[crude hemlock]

I guess he had that on him lol

oh yeah maybe that then

[craggy magnet]

Does anybody know what environments these missing log entries are for?

[hoary sedge]

its the new bulwarks ambry variants, I know the logbook spawn has been broken on them for a while but idk if they ever ended up fixing it

[bleak raft]

the bulwarks ambry logbook spawn was fixed i was in bulwarks the other day and saw it

[tiny niche]

What are the broken fragments on my character?

(There on the left shoulder)

[lavish jacinth]

the black particles? that's from death mark

[tiny niche]

I think so they look like broken crystals

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's death mark's item display, it creates a similar effect on enemies when you proc it

[tiny niche]

Ok thanks

[livid wedge]

They always spawned. They just didn't normally give you the correct version

[honest raft]

What do you build on false son

[ionic igloo]

steaks and the infusions aren't scrap on him, and he can actually use stone flux since I hear the amount of spikes he gets instantly makes up for the speed loss (I haven't tried it yet)

he can use proc items thanks to the laser but he can also use burst items like bands/crowbars/focus crystals thanks to his m1 being a 1500% aoe slam

he's also probably the best user of Luminous Shot

tl;dr this guy works with everything

[lavish jacinth]

damn near anything, the only thing he doesn't synergize with is shields since he gets stat buffs from bonus health (and even then is fine, just stay away from )

[lavish jacinth]

don't forget that the charged slam also has a 3.0 proc coeff when you use it on the ground, so it can also be amazing for procs despite being on the slow side

[ionic igloo]

I didn't know that, that's insane

[lavish jacinth]

they really made him as overpowered as possible for no reason lmao

it's only 1.0 if you use it in the air, but the radius scales with height so it's still pretty damn strong

[ionic igloo]

you'd think with all the complaints around that he was dogwater, but he really is op huh

~~he deserves it though ~~

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I genuinely don't know how people were complaining about him lol

[livid wedge]

Had to make up for chef

[lavish jacinth]

I guess they were only using the uncharged club or something

[ionic igloo]

there's some clunky feeling I can't really describe, but once you get over it he's pretty great

[lavish jacinth]

I know what you mean, he definitely feels a little unpolished (and so does chef)

[honest raft]

i think he definitely gets slower even with all his spkies used

[lavish jacinth]

it does take a little extra speed to get back up to "normal", yeah. And you still have the 0.5x speed multiplier making all speed buffs less effective. But he's still the only survivor besides loader who can actually take stone flux at base speed without being completely crippled

[fresh umbra]

Wb rex

[merry arch]

oh I always thought that loaders air momentum was affected by her walk speed

[fresh umbra]

It is not

[merry arch]

huh

good to know

[lavish jacinth]

nope, grappling doesn't care about speed at all since it's physics based

[merry arch]

oh interesting

i suppose that would make sence

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

plus it'd be super annoying to try to do precise grapple movement and suddenly get thrown off because some random enemy died and procced or something lol

[merry arch]

mm yeah

[lavish jacinth]

rex gets decent use out of it but his primary is way weaker

[merry arch]

oh yeah i ended up getting the spiked gauntlet after only a few tries, but without the gesture bc i have yet to loop and get titanic planes

[marble osprey]

Damage of luminous shot is % of the hit triggering it, so it's between dealing 175% of 80% damage for rex, or 175% of 1500% damage for false son

[fresh umbra]

Ohh

[merry arch]

does loader's thunderslam increase in damage the higher it hits from?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[quasi crystal]

On the false son topic false son is the only instance where I'm not mad when I get a Titan boss after multiple shrines on abyssal depths

[merry arch]

oh ok good to know

[ionic igloo]

ye I just mathed it out and he is slower at the start, so be careful if you have literally no items I guess

at level 1 with no items, if you grab SFP and use all your spikes, you'll still be going at 75% of your base speed

[dusky raven]

the difference is that because Stone Flux is a % based HP gain, just leveling up will yield more spikes over time

long terms its good

[scenic musk]

how do i unlock soulbound catalyst

[lavish jacinth]

activate 8 different newt altars

[flint glacier]

Is poison or blight better I don't play acrid

[quasi crystal]

poison

[dusky raven]

Obligatory blight is fine early game but because poison scales and blight gets really hard to stack it falls off fast so Poison is better 99.9% of the time

[lavish jacinth]

^^^ poison always deals damage based on a % of the enemy's health so it always works even against extremely tanky enemies, blight can stack and deal more damage early on, but it's just flat damage

[quasi crystal]

ive heard with noxious thorn blight is easier to use but it's not gonna help you if youre going to mithrix

[foggy hornet]

Always poison

[turbid hinge]

hey guys is there a guide for adequet pot locations

not the pots

the pressure plates

[daring cloak]

Ye the plate locations are listed on the wiki

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/

[mellow crystal]

does a perfect reload crit on railgunner do 3000% ((1000% + 500%) * 2) or 2500% (1000% * 2 + 500%) damage

[vivid acorn]

any updates on the progress of the boss rework?

[ionic igloo]

nope

[vivid acorn]

that sucks but Ty

[mellow crystal]

nvm i tested, it's 3000%

[foggy hornet]

They should add this link to this channel's description

[bold musk]

Which Acrid passive is better? Poison or Blight?

[foggy hornet]

Poison no matter what

[hoary sedge]

there are (like 2) hypothetical scenarios where blight is better but in practice poison is pretty much always better

[foggy hornet]

It is always better

Blight is one of the things gearbox should touch up after sots fixes

[honest raft]

character select screen why r someone of the character icons in yellow box but some arent

[daring cloak]

The yellow box indicates that there is something new on that survivor

[viral sorrel]

the yellow ones are ones youve just unlocked

survivor or skill

[daring cloak]

Either the survivor itself being freshly unlocked or one of their skills or alt skins

[honest raft]

how doi get rid of it

[steady stone]

Clicking on the new ability should get rid of the highlight

[honest raft]

nvm

[turbid hinge]

is it normal to be only good at bandit

like I find all other survivors shit,

[ionic igloo]

he has very high damage that's easily accessible and has great survivability, makes sense to me

[foggy hornet]

Yes most people here have their own favorite survivor

[merry arch]

what survivers do you have?

cuz that could affect that

[opal zealot]

I'm trying to do the false son fight but he keeps hitting me through the wall

[small fog]

see I think artificer is the best even though im equally shit on all survivors

[quasi crystal]

Arti is great

[lavish jacinth]

welcome to the false son fight, it's pretty bullshit
All you can really do is stand far enough behind cover that his club won't hit you through it, but still close enough that you can avoid the laser, and pray that you don't die to the golem swarms or lightning or all the other nonsense the throws at you

alternatively just wait for the next update since they're reworking the fight

[blazing nebula]

for Captain's visit 10 biomes unlock, do you just loop endlessly?

[slim spoke]

yea

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much

hidden realms also count though

[slim spoke]

ngl drone builds is the bane of his existence

[lavish jacinth]

if only drones could survive prime meridian

[slim spoke]

i did one
they lived pretty well (not for mando standards)

[lavish jacinth]

even if they do make it to false son I haven't found them all that effective, they help out a good bit with SDP but the laser and aoe attacks delete them

[slim spoke]

lil kids dont want me to shoot once

[lavish jacinth]

and in my experience they're really prone to dying to the lightning on PM, and it's easy for them to fall off the stage so you can't repair them

[slim spoke]

i do lost a few of them

[lavish jacinth]

I usually lose most of mine unless I skip straight to the top with vase or something, and even then they just die during the fight

[slim spoke]

but ig i got lucky, 8 to 5 (not counting col)

[slim spoke]

just tank its aggro every once in a while
gups give you enough money to repair a few times

[lavish jacinth]

if you can actually reach them

[slim spoke]

eh
10 mochas will do (yes i did a command run)

all in all, M O B I L I T Y

[lavish jacinth]

I am aware

but no amount of mochas can keep them from falling into the void, which they really like to do

[slim spoke]

yea
is it me or the lightnings' frequency really dropped down and went more focused on the player after wave 1

[lavish jacinth]

Idk, that whole stage just needs to chill

[slim spoke]

gups and elders on stage 4 is nuts

wait we have depths

[lavish jacinth]

stage 4 normally has gups and elders lol

[slim spoke]

yea that kicked in rather late

thank god the lightning doesnt leave damaging pools like the beetle chimeras
that would have been a total nightmare

[lavish jacinth]

either way I really wish they'd just give drones resistance or immunity to the lightning or something, even if they survive the damage I think it still applies lunar ruin that they can't easily get rid of

[slim spoke]

i can alr see a mod sprawling on tstore

[opal zealot]

alright I figured out the strat, first you loop until your game dips below 30fps, then you just kill him before he can take a step forward

[slim spoke]

no
what youre gonna do is stack spare drone parts and drones

one item and some companions
boom hes dead
aurelion is dead in the water
you get the prize

[lavish jacinth]

or just get war bonds lol

[slim spoke]

ez clap

but what abt p2

[lavish jacinth]

works for all phases doesn't it?

[slim spoke]

idk
mithrix doesnt seem to

[lavish jacinth]

I've heard otherwise but I'd have to check

[slim spoke]

do it 4 me

[marble osprey]

It can, you just need the boss to live until after all the missiles have fired, and get more gold before the next phase starts. You can't build more charges while they're still firing, so of the boss dies too early you can't build any more charges, same thing if you can't get any/enough gold in time

[slim spoke]

oh ok

[turbid hinge]

commando archer bandit mul-T and arti

[inner viper]

Archer

[merry arch]

yeah in all fairness arti multi commando and huntress all are quite difficult imo

i would probably try to get acrid or loader

i think that both have a relitively simple way of playing

and thus are pretty easy to get good with

[small fog]

artificer is good when you learn her its worth it

[blazing garnet]

Huntress is easy
She has aimbot

[small fog]

and 3 iframe dashes, glaive is really good and if you get ballista she is very strong

[mild cosmos]

if u defeat the false son on monsoon and rebirth, do u get the mastery achievement for the character or not?

[quasi crystal]

yes

[fresh umbra]

Mul-t is less difficult if you have a mouse with a side button to bind retool to

[slim spoke]

it isnt that inconvenient tbh
just need some time to get used to

[weak crow]

idk mult double rebar still inst hard i just gotta press the r key

[slim spoke]

average isaac player = average double rebar main

[spice horizon]

is there any specific items i should get for bandit? i dont think im doing enough dmg

[misty kettle]

if you equip lost seekers glasses on acrid does the poison also get change to make the enemies dissapear

[livid wedge]

No, the void crit only works on things with a proc chance

[honest raft]

2 void circles spawned on my stage it says i cleared all but 1 void seed but theres no purple arrow and nov oid things to kill whats goin on

[olive narwhal]

How does Ignition Tank stack? Afaik the "4x damage" is 2x duration and 2x tick damage. How does it stack, just tick dmg or both?

[merry arch]

likely you just havnt found the last one, sometimes there is a void corrupter and it will just be tiny and randomly corrupt a enemy, sometimes like 5 minutes later

[merry arch]

i believe it is both x4, but i might be mistaken

[olive narwhal]

So then it would actually x8 dmg, not x7? huh...

[merry arch]

im probably mistaken, im not to familiar with the fuel tank

[rancid jewel]

i recently just beat e5 mando, but the game thinks i beat it with artificer and now i have to beat e5 mando again and i completely skipped e5 artificer, is there a way to fix this?

i play modded btw

[honest raft]

I finish the teleported and killed everything, Something like this happened on a different run but this time it had a purple arrow pointing to some point like 10 ft above a rock and there’s nothing there either

[merry arch]

strange

never seen that happen

prolly just a bug or something

[reef folio]

What is the fuel array for?

[rancid jewel]

for a character

to unlock one*

[ionic igloo]

Take the fuel array to abyssal depths and do something with it

Don’t drop below 50%(?) health or the run ends

[full apex]

it just increases damage. burns try not to deal too much % of a targets max hp per tick, so at high enough damage they extend the duration instead

[olive narwhal]

huh, interesting! do you know what this cap is?

[full apex]

this is where its calc'd, so its like 4x total, then with 2 stacks 7x, then 10x, etc.

i dont rember exactly how the tick cutoff works, the dotcontroller has a line that seems like it might be 1% max hp, but id probably want to test it to be sure since i might not be reading the right thing

this is where the duration is managed tho. it gets the ticks per second divided by the total expected damage and uses that to determine how long it should tick

so theoretically it would just scale the expected total and per tick damage up equally, but then at some point the per tick would get capped, and this section would see the discrepency and increase duration to compensate

i think this was largely implemented because big elite enemies were applying burns that would kill players waaaaay too quickly, and that felt pretty bad, so they did this instead so you had the chance to outheal it

[lavish jacinth]

iirc with the realercheatunlocks mod you can manually change eclipse progress for specific characters

[rancid jewel]

tysm🙏

[olive narwhal]

nice, really cool analysis, thanks!

[quasi crystal]

You cannot or at least every attempt I've tried has yielded no results

The way I restore lost eclipse levels is to just use debug toolkit and warp to a moment whole/fractured

[lavish jacinth]

really? pretty sure it's supposed to be able to do that

[quasi crystal]

I wonder if the proper save bug is known to the developer

[rancid jewel]

it worked fine fo' me

[quasi crystal]

How did you do it

[cursive compass]

Ignition tanks increase the damage per tick of the burn by 400%

Actually, ignore that, Starlie knows much more than me

[weak crow]

it adds +300% damage burn per stack, so the first stack is 4x (combined 400%)

[eternal storm]

where did this oddly shaped opal come from?

[lavish jacinth]

someone had and they picked it up from there, probably?

[livid wedge]

Or whispers

[eternal storm]

oh yeah prob

[eternal storm]

neither of us had sonorous whispers but we did have shipping request form

we probably missed the shipment and got it in the escape sequence

[real gate]

How do you unlock the “Loader: The Thunderdome”? Ik it says “As loader, kill three other loaders in the bulwark’s ambry” but how would you do that

[livid wedge]

Either have the artifact of vengeance active or do the vengeance artifact trial in the ambry

Should have enough loaders spawn to kill

[real gate]

Alright. I’ll try that.

[turbid hinge]

how to play engineer

[ionic igloo]

what's confusing you

[livid wedge]

Big thing for engi is to consider not which items are good for you but instead what are good for the turrets

[ionic igloo]

remember, you can place down new turrets

this sounds like dumb af advice but people talk as if your turrets die once and engi is useless for the rest of the stage

throwing down a turret to clear a few small mobs or chip at a big mob while running away is good

[void fossil]

What does “experienced rebirth” mean

Nvm i figured it out

[quick zephyr]

Do any of the lunar items actually make your gameplay more enjoyable?

Which ones do you guys recommend trying?

[lavish jacinth]

that's totally up to opinion, generally lunars are designed to work around specific builds and aren't really meant to always be good like normal items are

is probably the best in terms of having a very minimal downside, but it's also a pain to unlock if you don't have it yet

(it's the one that requires pushing hermit crabs off a cliff)

[quick zephyr]

Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard so I generally avoid them

But I was wondering if any are kinda fun to play with

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, fun is subjective, hard to say without you trying them

like, some people love but others hate it

can be pretty fun ig, is cool if you're good at not getting hit

can lead to some fun builds depending on your items and survivor, but they both have pretty nasty downsides

[visual turtle]

To add on this, what lunars are good (or fun) is heavily survivor dependant, the and are particularly so. sucks on a majority of the characters, but Acrid for example loves it. also sucks for the most part, but certain burst damage characters like Arti can do really well with it. is really strong on basically every character & (at least imo) it's really fun because it lets you put all your build towards damage and not worry that much about defense, but R.E.X in particular hates it.

If you want a good starting place for having fun with Lunars though, what Fax suggested is really the best place to start. Is really stupid & can be pretty fun, same with

[ionic igloo]

I loop so I like stone flux pauldron because it makes your late game character controllable again

also False Son, idk if someone said that

if you want a power fantasy that's not the usual stuff, is very funny

[lavish jacinth]

Looping and picking up too much movement speed, False son and (sometimes) Loader are the only cases you'd ever really wanna pick up stone flux though, unless you just wanna cripple yourself for the memes

[ionic igloo]

can make things interesting as it has a chance to replace everything, including items monsters can get

and you know, the most obvious lunar build

[crude hemlock]

Finally looped and obliterated on monsoon in coop. Though it did feel like cheating using Loader compared to railgunner or acrid

Just like running charge upper cut and chunk like 80% off a boss

[hoary sedge]

also can be pretty decent if you find it early before you have good damage items

works pretty well with captain shock beacons if you like those

[full apex]

Stone flux is free on light flux seeker, so you can spam it there to become even more invincible lol

You're gonna spend all your time flying around in sojourn anyways so the walk speed is irrelevant

[quasi crystal]

Can seeker use equipment in sojourn

[marble osprey]

I'd say the main ones that can make it more enjoyable would be gestures like others have said, and also any of the heretic items. There are quite a few survivors where taking one of them just makes the survivor feel so much better. The primary can feel really nice on engineer, since his primary just isn't really fun to use, and on melee characters like loader to give them a bit of range since they don't really use their base primary. I like the heretic utility on rex, his base utility feels pretty scuffed to play with and shadowfade feels like it fits his kit pretty well. The special feels nice on commando, since both of his base specials aren't great and ruin synergizes with what he does really nicely. And then of course there's chef who benefits from all of them

I'd say try them out when you feel like you're just not using a particular skill at all, and see how you like it

[full apex]

im pretty prone to take at least one if i can, it helps with the pain of just waiting around that happens mid-late game if you have a decent build

[marble osprey]

I don't believe so, I remember playing with someone who was trying to do a tonic build and it kept getting messed up bc they would get afflictions whenever they went into sojourn

Not entirely sure tho

[full apex]

2 or more can become annoying depending, but 1 you tend to not notice the downside. its like pillars or void fields, but one stack on a tele is pretty free

back in the day when 3 made the void fields bubble so small acrid couldnt fit and it was impossible to charge

nowadays thats fixed tho lol

[pulsar junco]

seeker cant use any abilities in soujourn (except re activating sojourn obviously)

[pulsar junco]

if you have 4 gestures you shouldnt get any afflictions. Its true tonic doesnt activate in sojourn but the afflictions only apply in sojourn if you had an affliction before hand. So if you pick up say 3 gestures and then a tonic instead of 4 and got an affliction and then picked up 4 that affliction would proc whenever you went into sojourn

[full apex]

I dont think im following, are you saying queued afflictions will never actually pop unless you have one already?.

I assumed if tonic ran out mid sojourn, you would get the queued afflictions like normal

[lavish jacinth]

I'm pretty sure queued afflictions will always pop as soon as tonic runs out

[slim spoke]

only one regardless

pop 200 consecutive tonics idc i know youre gonna get only 1 anyway

[soft veldt]

Is it possible to dodge all attacks? (Tougher Times stacking)

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure that's not how it works, I remember seeing otherwise but I'd have to check again

[slim spoke]

possibly yes

[lavish jacinth]

theoretically yes, in practice no

at least not in a normal run, it takes millions of stacks (i forget the exact amount)

[slim spoke]

one thousand teddy bears
97%
ykwim

[livid wedge]

Easier with safer spaces but that's also not complete block

[lavish jacinth]

well yeah, you can get the block chance really high, but 100% chance is pretty unfeasible unless you wanna spend the rest of your life stacking bears

[soft veldt]

Yeah, no (Highest stack I usually get is 18, works fine enough)

[lavish jacinth]

and safer spaces gets to a 1 frame cooldown at 65 stacks, but it never goes any higher and it's still surprisingly easy to take damage

[slim spoke]

queued damage and framelag

[livid wedge]

18 is a 270/370 block chance, so like 75%

[soft veldt]

Btw, does it take 4 separate debuffs for the skull to proc, or does it allow 4 of the same debuff?

[livid wedge]

4 different

Although knockback fin is bugged where each stack is counted separately

[lavish jacinth]

you're just vulnerable on every other frame

1 active frame and 1 cooldown frame

[slim spoke]

more than one but less than two

[full apex]

The queue can hold fucktons if you activate your equipment too quickly

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[slim spoke]

aight

[full apex]

It rolls to queue one each time you activate tonic, regardless of buff duration left. So having barely 100% uptime is much better than re-activating it every second, because if it does drop for some reason (like mithrix p4) you suffer

[slim spoke]

yikes

[full apex]

One thing tho, the queue is reset between stages

[slim spoke]

obscure

[full apex]

So if you do have 100% uptime with gesture and end up having 4 or 5 waiting, when you change stage those get wiped away. So even if you drop the buff, your queue is reset

Its useful for non full uptime. As long as you leave before it runs out, you'll never get afflictions. So like with a fuel cell or 2, you could have a handful of charges to use during a tele and still not worry

[lavish jacinth]

there's still a full gametick where damage can be registered, we actually tested this not too long ago. With 65 stacks, if you were getting hit every single frame, you'd block 50% of hits

That also means that 7+ stacks of tougher times actually starts to outperform it in that case since it doesn't have a cooldown at all

[soft veldt]

Is it possible for the Shrine of the Mountain to spawn more than 3 times per area? (I can and will use all of them at once, just for the funny)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[full apex]

I think it blocked every frame, but multiple hits on the same frame could break through

Since max AS saw ticks every frame but couldn't do damage, but if you hit with 2 things per it would get through

[lavish jacinth]

the result was a little weird but I definitely remember a side-by-side test with 65 SS and 7 or 8 TT, where the TT was taking slightly less damage

[soft veldt]

Like Bleed + Fire? (I have experience with getting obliterated by this combo, even with TT)

[slim spoke]

i love framelag

[full apex]

Right. Though like saw with infinite tritip won't be able to bleed because it cant connect, so it cant proc. But as soon as you get one hit in, it bleeds, and then on ticks where bleed happens it won't block the bleed and saw, only one of them, so damage gets through

[slim spoke]

so its like a shotgun aiming at a biscuit

[full apex]

[soft veldt]

How high does your Attack Speed have to be to have pretty much instant Reloading with Bandit?

[slim spoke]

idk
15 mocha stacks/9 syringes looks like a decent starting point

[soft veldt]

I seek, thank you :) (I just like the silly shotgun)

[pulsar junco]

idk i think sojourn has wiered interactions ill have to test it further but whenever i use tonic with seeker its true i lose the tonic buff in sojourn but i never actually get any afflictions - might have smt to do with the fact that when you get a tonic affliction one debuff you get is max health reduction which could be considered dmg?? so the game nullifies the debuff as a whole due to sojourns immunity to dmg that isnt from sojourn?

[full apex]

afflictions are items, it just puts them in your inventory

[lavish jacinth]

the game also doesn't treat health reduction as damage, but yeah since affliction is an item it should always give it to you regardless

[pulsar junco]

yea idk

[wet pendant]

that makes a lotta sense

explains why sometimes when i lose tonic i dont immediately have the worlds worst withdrals known to man despite taking thousands of them

[worn geode]

why does it startup failure when i try and load in ro2? im on mac using whisky to use window apps btw,
^ i just wanted to say that it was working completely fine and i had some nice gameplay but now startup just wont work

[lavish jacinth]

you can try reinstalling/verifying files if you haven't already, if that fails #ror2-tech-support might be able to help

though from what I've heard, ror2 is kinda iffy on mac

[worn geode]

i already reinstalled

it suddenly fixed for me somehow

[shy forge]

Hm

[analog brook]

Does anyone know HOW this broke the level 94 XP requirement?

I know about the engi glitch but I only ever saw it go up to level 94 not 95

If I had to bet I'd guess it's something to do with chronic expansion with how jank it is

[unique blade]

I recently started playing ror with my friend, we're trying to just have fun. I unlocked the artifact of command swarm and sacrifice, but I am a little bit confused about the actual drops and if it's worth using swarm with sacrifice

I just saw some old posts on reddit and steam about this, saying that since swarm halves the xp and whatever, sacrifice is based on swarm

[slim spoke]

generally speaking, the drops will be better

[unique blade]

Alright good to know

Read a post on reddit where someone talked about testing it on stage 1 but that seemed pretty pointless since stage 1 enemies have like 5% drop chance meanwhile other enemies range from 20-40%+, so I assumed maybe the drops would get a lot better once in further stages

[daring cloak]

Actually when ronny first showed this when he did the trick with me and another friend we also went to 95

It is a very strange occurrence

[hallow zodiac]

Hello, I'm a beginner who just started playing. Can I ask a question?

[high forum]

Please do!

[hallow zodiac]

I want to get the Ballista skill of Huntress. Does this skill have to clear the stage from stage 1 without any damage?

[daring cloak]

No it just has to be ralleypoint or scorched acres without going below 100% hp

Also the yellow barrier you get from things like topaz brooch acts like going up to 200% hp so if you get hit but just dont lose any actual health it will still count

[hallow zodiac]

thanks

[livid wedge]

Does curse from e8 count as changing your max health for stuff like watches?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[livid wedge]

Neat

[turbid hinge]

what items to target the right way to play etc,

also how to properly use mul-t I find him abyssmal.

[full apex]

drop chance is roughly based on their reward, but is not exactly halved. so its always an improvement, but how much varies. theres a global 5% chance minimum, so early on its most impactful, like when something is already close to 5%, so it drops to 2 or 3, but then is raised back to 5% so youve got two enemies with the same chance still.

this hasnt been updated for new monsters and stuff, i just havent felt the need to really. but it should give a rough idea for the chance changes

elites are also more expensive so they'll bias upwards in cost. you can kinda think of it as +50% more drops and that should be a decent average expectation for using swarms with sac

[steady stone]

Do you still have questions about engi items/playing MulT, or did they answer them? We could always still answer stuff now, if needed

Not sure if you were elaborating on that previous comment or still have the questions, I mean

[pine comet]

should I pay more attention to getting more gear or getting through the stages quickly?

[steady stone]

Generally items and what items will be more important than time spent in a stage

You shouldn't waste time, per se, but if I spend an extra 10-15 minutes to optimize my build, like scrapping and printing stuff on loader to get kjaros, that is most likely better than just leaving where you were

Sometimes you simply have nothing to organize and manage though, so it varies

I think the general rule that people know is that it's good to have more items than minutes elapsed, but it's more complicated than that to decide the quality of a run

[turbid hinge]

I figured out engineer myself

fungus is actually op, doing void trials were pretty fun with it, turrets are op

[steady stone]

Yeah, that's the general consensus is that bungus is engi's signature item

You can put the turrets in range of each other, plus yourself, to have 4 healing fields

(+1 turret from )

[worn geode]

why does it startup failure when i try and load in ro2? im on mac using whisky to use window apps btw
^ i just wanted to say that it was working completely fine and i had some nice gameplay but now startup just wont work and ive tried doing everything like reinstalling and restarting my mac

[steady stone]

Try right clicking on the game on steam, properties, installed files, verify integrity of game files
If that doesn't work, try a hard reinstall by deleting the folder and installing, which will remove your settings but not your saves (if linked to the cloud)

Uninstall + reinstall normally does nothing because it's not actually fully uninstalled or clean reinstalled

[worn geode]

Already verified a bunch and no good

I’ll try the hard reinstall

Hopefully it works

@steady stone it surprisingly worked

I’m surprised how nothing worked and this somehow did

[steady stone]

when you "uninstall" and "reinstall" from steam it uses a save state kind of, so it reintroduces the problem

hence why you keep your settings

[worn geode]

Oh alright

Will the problem occur again?

Hopefully not cause it might happen again when I quit

[steady stone]

Hopefully not, but you'll never know with technology

[worn geode]

Alright

[steady stone]

I'd relaunch just in case, and then redo all of the settings that have been reverted to default

[worn geode]

Alright

I just relaunched

Well the problem occurred again

I guess I have to uninstall again

[steady stone]

well, that isn't good, but i would say the worst part is it could be about anything

like a problem with your 'emulator' or whatever those platform adapters for windows -> mac/linux are called

[worn geode]

I use whiskey

[steady stone]

yeah, i'm just not very experienced with any of those programs is all, so you've lost me there for troubleshooting
that and any forums and such will probably be very general, and i doubt you'd find one for a specific game, as with tech like that

[worn geode]

Alright

[worn geode]

@steady stone startup failure happened again

and uninstalling doesnt work anymore

[steady stone]

"startup failure" as in an error? or crashing on startup?

i see some things involving monitors causing crashes in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/ror2/comments/t58gif/game_crashing_on_startup/?rdt=60099
something about unplugging a second

old, but someone claims it helped 10 months ago instead of 3 years

oh, check the #ror2-tech-support PINS
they have like. basically an essay worth of solutions, some specifically for startup crashes

[worn geode]

error

it happens when i open up ro2 and when the game is fully done loading, the error shows and i cant continue further when the problem appears on my screen so i have to quit and try again

[maiden root]

Does sale star work on cauldrons

[fresh umbra]

No iirc

[hoary sedge]

nope, only chests and the rusted lockbox

[edgy sage]

so i was giving myself lunar coins (yeah i know a little scummy) and my profile got corrupted how do i fix this?

[lavish jacinth]

you can try #ror2-tech-support (check pins first) but they may not be able to help. Worst case scenario you can use the realercheatunlocks mod to recreate your old progress on a new profile

and uh, probably make a backup next time you wanna mess with a save file directly

[fresh umbra]

giving myself lunar coins
death.

[edgy sage]

though seriously do you have any ideas?

[slim spoke]

reset save

honestly its quite impossible to track down where you tripped

[edgy sage]

and how do i do that?

[ionic igloo]

delete all save data and restart the game

[edgy sage]

Nooooo

[ionic igloo]

there are mods that can unlock your stuff again as easily as right clicking

[lavish jacinth]

seriously, it's not hard at all https://thunderstore.io/package/prodzpod/RealerCheatUnlocks/

make new profile, right click the stuff you want

you can't carry over profile stats but it's better than starting over completely, which is pretty much your only other option

[crude hemlock]

Anyone got any tips for artificer? had a decent run going yesterday in coop with bandit until 3 stone golems deleted us both through the walls

that was like fuk that was stage 8 as well on monsoon :/

[lavish jacinth]

well if you wanna make arti as braindead easy as possible, you can just run ion surge, constantly float above everything and ignore like 95% of enemies while tossing nanobombs down

but other than that Arti is one of the harder survivors to play, you've gotta manage cooldowns a lot and rely heavily on freeze/stun to deal with enemies safely since her horizontal mobility is nonexistent and her damage is generally worse than it probably should be (especially flamethrower)

this guide goes over her pretty comprehensively, it's a little outdated but should still be useful https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Kn9ei3oRGiA05IGaiXwyrNCpo8UQyQDZ83spX19QcA/edit?tab=t.0

the biggest change is that her primary cooldown DOES get shorter with attack speed now

[lavish jacinth]

although for this specific situation, just don't stand too close to thin cover against stone golems since their attack has a little bit of aoe

[quasi crystal]

Wrong fandom tells the truth

This shit still cracks me up

[lavish jacinth]

Technically it might've been true at one point, back when additive damage procs were a thing

[quasi crystal]

Isn't additive still a thing

Or am I mixing up additive with base

[crude hemlock]

Yeah I swear I read this before and the flamethrower hits like a wet noodle

I had like 3 ignition tanks and couple gasoline and it still wants worth getting slapped in the face to use

[crude hemlock]

Amazing thanks. I haven't unlocked any of the skills, I was trying to get one of them last night to no avail

I figured stacking gas and ignition with some mocha and such was useful, it felt less stressful when I had a feather and move speed

[full apex]

hmmm, i guess the burn nerf did hit it pretty hard considering it used to be like half of her damage, but it should still be like 2500-3000% no?.

which is quite a lot, it will be putting out more than bomb and that feels pretty impactful. i guess being over time makes it feel less up front crazy though. the m1 buffs i suppose also dont help, but flame scales with atk speed nowadays too doesnt it?

yea killing a few titans was like 23-25s vs 30-33s, so like 20-25% dps lost from cutting flame out of the rotation entirely. ice wall didnt make a big difference in time but its not really meant to on a boss

definitely a fall from glory when it was like 4k%, but its still good piercing and still 22 hits to proc stuff, when bomb is only 1 and m1 a handful

[full apex]

also where is this? its not on fandom's arti page

which i think makes sense, considering its not 50%+ of her total potential output, but 20-25% is still substantial

is this the right gg wiki?..
https://riskofrain.wiki.gg/wiki/Artificer

its not on here either, and this page is a lot more barren info-wise

[livid wedge]

Wrong one

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_2_Wiki

[full apex]

its the only one that pops up on google if you search wiki.gg lol

is that returns or smth?

[livid wedge]

@daring cloak Knows more than I or maybe it was @analog brook

[full apex]

yea this one is way better, i thought the gg had way more than the first link lmao

i love SEO non of these are right

[daring cloak]

Seems like there are 3 gg wikis
One for returns one for ror2 and one for ror1 and ror2 that seems kinda dead

[daring cloak]

I would not trust google tbh

[full apex]

idk how else to find it if i dont already know the URL

[daring cloak]

Using the pinned links in #ror-wiki-discussion is just way more consistent

[full apex]

oh shit

that makes sense

[livid wedge]

I have it bookmarked

I have like 5 bookmarks and that's one of them

Priorities

[full apex]

perfection

[analog brook]

The really shitty gg wiki is like ANCIENT from ror1 and I'm relatively sure that when ror2 came out people started adding ror2 to it. Tbh it should probably be cleansed of the ror2 stuff, but even then, it looks like ror2 wiki.gg is almost blacklisted or shadow banned from the search result, it's incredibly bizarre. It used to show up as the 2nd thing after Fandom if you searched "risk of rain 2 official wiki.gg" but now you gotta scroll a bit to get to it, on pc i think it's even the 2nd page. This only happened to this extent a few months after sots

[analog brook]

Also I think its just a now removed section from the fandom wiki

[full apex]

i wonder if being newer = less traffic and being the same looking URL causes google to de-priotitize it due to dupe prevention

[full apex]

makes sense, but sharing it now might be a bit disingenuous then lol, considering it was true for a very long portion of the games lifespan

[livid scroll]

what sounds from ror 2 should i put on my soundboard (must be funny/referense)

[ionic igloo]

Void reaver death

Blind Pest spawn

[full apex]

malachite spawn was a classic troll one. p sure malachite, void reaver, and chest, are already on the soundboard in here? also brass contrap

[worldly olive]

Apparently its different

Additive was a combination of total and base damage I think?

[deft surge]

Is cross play ever going to be added?

[ionic igloo]

there's epic and steam crossplay (barely)

[high forum]

no

or like, strongly probably no unless they've been secretly working on it to surprise all of us, which would be very surprising

[deft surge]

okay thanks

[lavish jacinth]

Additive was a mix of total + base, like iirc ATG used to be 100% total + 300% base. I think all total damage procs used to work like that, but it was changed because it meant proc rate was way more important than actual dps

And for added context, back in the day I think flamethrower had the highest base proc rate in the game if you didn't include the cooldown, plus it could pierce. Flamethrower would've been an absolute monster back then, but with the proc item changes, other stuff being buffed, and the burn rework, it just kinda fell behind

[quasi crystal]

Ok but this was up during devotion are you saying this was true during devotion

Like I knew about this page before I even installed ror2 I just found the wording funny didn't think it'd upset people lol

[lavish jacinth]

Oh I know, it's silly how much the wiki praises it. I was just joking that it might've been correct a few years ago but that time has long since passed

[quasi crystal]

Ah lol

[steady dew]

should i use spinal tonic or gorags

[latent oyster]

Spinel tonic if you have equipment reduction or additional uses, but gorgas to play it safe otherwise.

[tender temple]

since when could it pierce

i do not recall it having any form of pierce at all

[undone fox]

soo me and my gf are pretty sure we just got softlocked. We were doing trial of delusion, I grabbed the artifact

no portal spawn

what do

are we cooked
did we lose a 2 hour run?

[still fiber]

i am the girlfriend i can sadly vouch

[undone fox]

this is depressing

[pine comet]

the purple stage where you fight the big yellow guy always kills me. What do i do differently to get past it?

[ionic igloo]

what

Sky Meadow and the Grandparent?

[pine comet]

ohhh yeah thats it lol. thx

i saw him for lik 10 seconds one time before he killed me lol so i didnt know his name

[ionic igloo]

break line of sight when he uses the sun, but you can also use the sun to wipe out other mobs since it melts everyone

when it starts picking up something it's about to throw a rock at you, this hurts, so just start strafing when you see it (and don't be too close)

the last attack is a gravity orb which can be annoying when combo'd with other enemy attacks but otherwise not dangerous

[pine comet]

alr thx so much this is helpful

[pine comet]

oh also should i try to get there quickly, focus on getting as many items as possible, or somewhere inbetween?

[ionic igloo]

you should always full loot a stage to the best of your ability, but that aside, Grandparents are usually low-mid priority for me

[pine comet]

alr got it. I saw videos that said to go as fast as possible, but they were lik 5+ years old and it wasn't working so i was assuming there were balance changes. thx!

[ionic igloo]

yeah the short version is that stage scaling is stronger than time scaling, and items are strong enough now that it's always worth to full loot as that'll put you way ahead of the enemies

[full apex]

flamethrower does and has always had infinite piercing..

its pretty big too and very long, a lot of people really underestimate the range and feel its super close range but you can be quite far

[steady stone]

wth, is that entire cylinder the hitbox? that's huge

[tender temple]

it never felt like it pierced for me

[full apex]

really its was incredible up until the burn rework, going from 200% base to 50% total was a bit rough. it used to be over 4k% to everything in that beeg range. its still quite strong tho, its still like 2.7k or so

the proc rate is still pretty nice, but bleed is getting rekt by the DoT bug rn. should be fixed soon tho i hope! im expecting it to be fixed in the next update wave

[dire ledge]

is it possible to get mastery by beating false son?

[wide parrot]

Yes

[quasi crystal]

Yes

[fiery oriole]

Hello all! Just started the game. I found two boxes but it seems I can’t pickup the item. Can’t explain without pictures and it doesn’t allow me to post pictures.

There was no button command. Why did this happen?

[ionic igloo]

if you get a #roles will it let you upload pictures?

I have no idea what you're saying

[ionic igloo]

wild guess but is it that?

[fiery oriole]

Yes!

[ionic igloo]

Also, you can press F (I think that's default but idr) to ping things and it tells you what you're pinging

[fiery oriole]

Yeeess! This is. I found it on YouTube and it says it’s a .. 3d printer

[ionic igloo]

That's a printer. 1 Items is the cost. This costs 1 common item and you get whatever you see

[fiery oriole]

Will try now

[ionic igloo]

Printers take items randomly, so you use scrappers to scrap items you think are useless. Then instead of taking a random item, the Scrap is prioritized.

[fiery oriole]

Finally. Picture posting is working hehe! Thanks a lot.

[ionic igloo]

Green printer, so you'd want green scrap there, or . And so on

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Regenerating_Scrap

[fiery oriole]

Thanks a lot. Purchased the game an hour ago. And I read the reviews carefully to not play it at night. Now I am off to bed thankfully. 🛌

[steady stone]

Even if there's no printer currently, it's always good to scrap. There might be one in the future, and worst case, there's always cauldrons before mithrix/false son. Cauldrons are similar to printers, but imagine like 5 greens for 1 red, instead of green for green.

[fiery oriole]

Thank you so much ! I have tutorial on. Can’t wait to play it tomorrow.

Every planet is random on surface?

[steady stone]

There's a set amount of stage 1s, 2s, etc that will be chosen on that appropriate stage, so not fully random

Like you can only get Sky Meadow on stage 5

[full apex]

i dont think i changed mine and its middle mouse

[pine comet]

is it all good if im spending lik 7-10 minutes on each stage or should i spend less time

[steady stone]

Generally it's good to full loot because item scaling will overpower time scaling

I like to think it's alright if you have more items than minutes elapsed

But it will always be worth it to micromanage, like if I spend 10 extra minutes to get 3 kjaros on loader

[lavish jacinth]

Protip, in game settings there's an option called "inspect item" or something like that. It'll let you see what a thing is before you interact with it, super helpful when you're new to the game

[lavish jacinth]

10 minutes for just a few extra items is pretty excessive, but yeah, you should prioritize items over going fast

[steady stone]

It was a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah it depends on what you're actually trying to get

Like a solid 3 to use some printers is nothin

[pine comet]

alr. it rlly seems lik the time mechanic is kinda best just ignored lol from what iv heard. is this assumption true?

[lavish jacinth]

Don't ignore it, but don't stress about it either

[steady stone]

Not completely ignored, but nothin you can do about it other than play to your best abilities

[lavish jacinth]

Time management is more about efficiency than speed

[steady stone]

You'll improve at micromanaging your builds well and fast with time

[lavish jacinth]

Basically just try to do everything you can on a stage without wasting time

[pine comet]

ohhh alr thx guys. ill just start trying to get good at knowing which items r good

[steady stone]

Generally there's "burst" and "proc" characters that excel with their respective items

[pine comet]

oh also, do u guys start getting alot of lag as the run goes on? I'm playing on switch and its kinda a problem.

[steady stone]

Generally stuff that spawns things like ATG or Sticky Bomb will cause lag, but the switch is notoriously low performance

[pine comet]

lik damaging charecters and tanky charecters?

[pine comet]

too tru

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah that's probably just switch hardware lol

[pine comet]

fr fr😭

[steady stone]

not quite
So loader can deal damage with her shift every, what, 10 seconds? It does 2700 damage, and combined with things like making the first hit stronger, or boosting 1 hit every 10 seconds, that's very good. That's a "burst" character

Commando on the other hand, shoots fast with a 1.0 proc coeff (like a multiplier for chances), so things like will be applied very often

[pine comet]

ohhh alr. what would bandit be? Hes my main guy rn

[steady stone]

And something activating is a "proc," hence proc characters

[lavish jacinth]

Burst meaning characters that deal large amounts of damage but attack slowly, like

And proc characters being the opposite, lots of fast attacks for low damage

[steady stone]

A bit of both, since the shotgun can be very strong with the multiple projectiles, but his revolver can excel with and . Mostly proc, but isn't bad with burst either.

[pine comet]

ok so bandit would be a proc charecter... probably?

[lavish jacinth]

He's kinda in the middle

[steady stone]

Bandit specifically has a combo with crowbar since the gun refreshes on kill with it, so one hit for one kill means no cooldown

[pine comet]

do u know offhand how to unlock whatever the kajaros band is? I dont think iv seen it yet

[ionic igloo]

Re: time

The more you play, the more you naturally learn a good route through stages and where most of the loot is anyway, and so eventually you can full loot while also being sub-10 on some stages

[lavish jacinth]

You can sorta build him either way depending on the items you get, although he does lean a little more towards burst damage, especially with his alternate special

[steady stone]

On abandoned aquaducts, there's pressure plates around the map

Predetermined spots, but 2 always spawn
Have to hit both at once to open a door

[pine comet]

ahhh ok

[steady stone]

This can be done with turrets, captain beacons, , lunar coins, etc

Or just in multiplayer

[ionic igloo]

This is where you see “pot rolling”

[lavish jacinth]

Engineer is generally the easiest way to do it in singleplayer

[pine comet]

oh yeah i saw something about that. im thinking engineer would be best from what i know

yeah

[steady stone]

Generally yeah, as long as it's not with mobile

It's possible with mobile turrets I believe, but not exactly practical

[pine comet]

alr gotcha. well thx guys. this game seems to hav a rlly helpful community

[steady stone]

Yeah Fax or Charlie should generally always be around, assuming I'm not

We live here

[ionic igloo]

Ask questions here where people are legally obligated to answer correctly

[pine comet]

🤣 alr good to know

[pine flare]

What if I defeated the false son, mythrix, and the voidling in one run

It’s possible right

[ionic igloo]

Yes, you can beat False Son and continue to Helminth Sanctuary

[pine flare]

Then pay 10 coins to the frog

[ionic igloo]

Yep

[pine flare]

dawg.

The false son said “have you come seeking a god” and I jokingly said “no, I come seeking an equal”

[scenic musk]

how do i send video?

[pine flare]

wait this is the wrong channel

[full apex]

you need a role to embed

[scenic musk]

thanks

anyone konw what happened?

[full apex]

i imagine mod issue or something

[lavish jacinth]

That just looks like you lost connection

[ionic igloo]

He asked again in general chat and it was just another Epic cross play moment

[lavish jacinth]

Very epic indeed

[quasi crystal]

how many enemies can self damage themselves? not self destruct just hurt themselves with their attacks?

[ionic igloo]

can that happen outside of chaos?

[quasi crystal]

larvas are the only ones that come to mind curious if any others do that

[lavish jacinth]

clay apothecaries hurt themselves when they use their mortar attack

[quasi crystal]

ooh ty

[lavish jacinth]

oh, and one of the twisted scavs has glowing meteorite iirc, if that counts

yeah

[quasi crystal]

i didnt consider it but that does i feel

[lavish jacinth]

it's kind of an edge case but phase 4 mithrix hurts himself with the orb attack

and I'm guessing jellyfish don't count

[quasi crystal]

its not an edge case im testing something lol

jellyfish do not im pretty sure they cant survive unless they block the damage

[lavish jacinth]

the only other thing I can think of would be rex/seeker/viend umbras

arguably heretic umbra, but negative regen isn't the same thing as self-damage

[marble osprey]

Ig void-infested goobos of those survivors (rex excluded) might also do it then but then we're getting really niche lol

[lavish jacinth]

ah yeah, that too

I guess captain technically falls into that category too with diablo strike, but that's basically a self destruct lol

[quasi crystal]

ai captain cant use diablo

[lavish jacinth]

wait, can't it? I know it can't use beacons but I thought utility still worked

[quasi crystal]

but anyway seemlingly unique to larva, when a gilded one hurts itself it drops gold nuggets

mithrix and umbras dont drop any gold

twisted scav cant use meteor if gilded obviously

apothecaries dont either

maybe it's a proc thing

[lavish jacinth]

weird

[lavish jacinth]

try giving them a bunch of tritips, see if they proc bleed on themselves

it'd be really weird if the self damage had a proc coeff but that would confirm if it did or not

[quasi crystal]

I already know mithrix can't proc on himself

I'll test the others in a minute

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, I'd be surprised if any of them could, but maybe larva are an exception for some reason

[quasi crystal]

nothing self procs

[quasi crystal]

it can only use default

[gusty anvil]

why do some of my drones have these weird teal splotches on their healthbar?

is that some type of effect from false son?

[lavish jacinth]

that's from lunar ruin

[main furnace]

hey so i just bought one of the dlc’s and there is a character on the character select screen that is blacked out unlike the rest that have a yellow filter, anyone know why?

[steady stone]

You buy SOTV? Only railgunner is given to you, and the other must be unlocked

[main furnace]

yes i did, i am just confused as to why it’s blacked out instead of being yellow

[viral sorrel]

the yellow indicates a new unlock

[lavish jacinth]

can you select them?

[main furnace]

no, i’ll send a photo

[steady stone]

Yellow is basically like an "alert"
If you get a new ability, you can click on it to mark as read almost, and get rid of the yellow

[viral sorrel]

that is odd
but prob just visual bug

[main furnace]

i see thank you

is every locked character si posed to be yellow?

[viral sorrel]

noo

[main furnace]

ah okay that’s weird lmao

[viral sorrel]

yerg
but it shouldnt affect anything gameplay wise

[main furnace]

no it hasn’t so far, just thought everything was yellow until unlocked

[lavish jacinth]

normally it shows a lock icon like items do

you only get the yellow border after they're unlocked but haven't selected them yet

[viral sorrel]

its the exact opposite lmao or at least it should be
yellow indicates a fresh unlock

[main furnace]

that’s so weird i wonder if other people have experienced this

[steady stone]

There's probably a default skill that's marked as "new" but you can't click it because you cant select the character

[lavish jacinth]

Actually, what's up with this menu in general? you've got railgunner selected but the thing is still blank

[main furnace]

i’m not sure lmao i have the luck that games have weird glitches when i get them

if i have them selected like that it still lets me start a game with them just can’t see any of the weapons or anything

[lavish jacinth]

I don't know if I've ever even seen it like that lol, it should just show whatever survivor you selected last time

[main furnace]

just like my mother said i’m just special!

[lavish jacinth]

maybe try verifying files or something? Just to make sure nothing's messed up

[main furnace]

i’m on ps5 i cant do nothin with files sadly

[lavish jacinth]

huh, apparently this is what a fresh profile looks like now

[steady stone]

OH viend doesn't have alts

i think the alts are marked for some reason until you pick the character

that would be the only difference between him and the roster

[lavish jacinth]

would make sense, I'm pretty sure that's a new bug tho

I'm too lazy to downpatch and check but I'm pretty sure you never used to get yellow borders on locked survivors like that

[steady stone]

I vaguely remember something about it from hundreds of hours ago but it was never the whole lobby

[lavish jacinth]

it's been a long time since I had any new survivors to unlock pre-sots and I never paid much attention to it anyway lol

[steady stone]

and like after unlocking a character they would go gold

[slim spoke]

it is
and its the same for locked items

[steady stone]

it probably uses a different check for this or something since there's no "new skill"

and that could've gotten messed up

actually that probably wouldn't make sense for void fiend with no alt skills to not be highlighted if that was the case

[fiery oriole]

What’s that box? How can I activate it? Thanks

[flint prawn]

Get to this chest in Stage 3 before 10 minutes pass to open it

[fiery oriole]

Thank you so much

[crude hemlock]

Any advice for Mithrix on monsoon? in coop?

We looped once, my partner was absolutely cracked, like a boss would spawn and die, melting everything. Some things would die as they spawn

instead of Oblit, he pushed for us to go mithirx so whats that stage 10 or something?

so we get there, and like I was rail gunner, I used my special on one of the flying mobs and its just kinda spun around and looked at me like, the f you do that for, flew over and deleted me

I couldnt even get out of the spawn area, my mate made it to the first tower button and got murdered

Ive then read you should loop 3(!) times but you should be gunning it, like 3mins per stage

[lavish jacinth]

well for starters don't do that