ror2-game-questions

[full apex]

i thought that was just always the same

stone flux?

[lavish jacinth]

I think everything that buffs move speed also buffs acceleration proportionally, except growth nectar

[quasi crystal]

As in even with stoneflux the ice physics seemingly caused by nectar persist

[full apex]

yea i assumed accel and movespeed were tied directly together

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[full apex]

its in here now, thats for sure

i wonder if this is because it fucked with gravity or smth?.. lol

[lavish jacinth]

does this mean that acceleration should automatically get updated by move speed?
I'm not great at reading code lol

[full apex]

yea, and base accel

which i guess is in fact different?..

i always thought it would be weird to have different accel rates but MulT does seem to just have less accel which is interesting

[lavish jacinth]

so it's actually really weird that growth nectar doesn't affect it then

[full apex]

commando and acrid are 80 but MulT is reading 30

[quasi crystal]

It's really painful

Arti has different acceleration too

[full apex]

huh, so she does. 40

should i fuck with growth nectar or stone flux or smth while i have the inspector up?

[quasi crystal]

Sure

[lavish jacinth]

what do these values even represent, anyway?

[full apex]

acceleration i guess lol

presumably its amount of speed able to be changed in 1s

so 80 would mean 0-80 in 1s? so to go 0-7 would be <0.1s

what r some ez buffs for nectar that arent movespeed themselves lol

i dont rember what CD buffs dont count

[lavish jacinth]

uhh any of the cooldown buffs work

[full apex]

oh do they count now? like bands and safer?

[lavish jacinth]

bands, safer spaces, echo, fin would give you 4 easy ones

[full apex]

oh shit nice

[quasi crystal]

Tesla, free purchase, cool downs, invisible, ocular HUD, elites, leech

[full apex]

oh shit
wait
i bet its because it comes late in recalc stats

i bet tonic is and has been the same way

it does indeed not appear to update my accel, gaining nectar speed.

yea tonic doesnt either

[quasi crystal]

Looks like I found new jank

[full apex]

hmmm its kinda hard to tell at lower speed values

i dont really feel slidey per se...

or is it the speed loss of stone flux?

and then nectar/tonic would compensate the raw speed but youd stay slidey?

[quasi crystal]

No it's annoying at higher stacks of nectar, you wouldn't notice it without a benthic or looping

[full apex]

[full apex]

that makes perfect sense and its really funny

[lavish jacinth]

try it with high stacks of stone flux, it also has some funky effects on acceleration

[full apex]

especially when you sprint and then stop because you keep some of that sprint speed but your accel drops back to base

[lavish jacinth]

(iirc I wasn't pressing anything after jumping in these clips, flux is just weird lol)

[full apex]

wait wait how did you go fast

[lavish jacinth]

it's an old clip so I don't totally remember lol

[full apex]

silly

you cant steer, its just like you get tossed and slide wherever you slide lol

[lavish jacinth]

literally wheelchair mode

[lavish jacinth]

what's the thing you're using to look at the values here?

[full apex]

the fnuy

sprinting should change your slide speed a bit too lol, where sprinting being +accel would make you slow down faster

[full apex]

unity explorer!

it takes some getting used to using, and if you dont know where to look it can be a bit impossible lmao. but if you know what you want to see, and know where to find it (usually coupled with dnspy for me), then its really powerful

i know accel is a value in characterbody so i found the toolbot clone and then its characterbody component, but like finding the entitystate shit to track false son's bugged laser tickrate was very annoying

thats also how i compiled random shit to run ingame earlier for the tougher chance thingy haha

[lavish jacinth]

oh neat, I'll have to try to figure that out sometime

[full apex]

its not too awful if you are willing to poke around. you can crash the game if you hit something you shouldnt tho lmao

i crashed quite a few times while learning to use it. probably could have just looked up a guide but im stubborn lol

[lavish jacinth]

eh, guides are for the weak

[full apex]

i just intuited what i might want, and clicked around menus to see what would happen

sometimes you see something and think hmmm the game probably wouldnt want to evaluate this twice, i wonder what happens if i just hit evaluate....

oh, it does nothing. or oh, it crashes lol

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's usually how I do things, lmao

just keep aimlessly poking stuff until it does what I want

[void fossil]

Is alt special worth unlocking

[full apex]

Yes

Ballista is significantly better than arrow rain

[void fossil]

What does it do

[full apex]

You get to rapid fire launch 3 harpoons for 900% each

The consistency is significantly higher, the dps is better, and it gives a good band proc

[blazing garnet]

All Huntress's alts are worth unlocking
Flurry can out-DPS strafe at like 20% crit chance and phase blink lets you dash around without an 8 second cooldown
Ballista is basically required for Huntress to be usable because arrow rain is so bad

[void fossil]

Of course however ballista sounds like a pain to get

[blazing garnet]

Not that hard, just bring a friend

Rallypoint Delta has a certain spot way up high, you can get there with the

You fly up there first thing after reaching the stage, your friend does everything else

That's how I got it

[vale quartz]

what do the flying bug things that beetlequeen spawn do, ive never been in there zone long enough to know

[blazing garnet]

What flying bug things?
I dont recall anything like that

[steady stone]

The little AoE does this, it isn't that bad

[quasi crystal]

They have a name in ror 1 but I forget it

[lavish jacinth]

archer bugs?

[lavish jacinth]

you can use artifact of glass and/or shaped glass to make it easier, the health reduction doesn't matter if you can't get hit anyway

also helps since taking damage to barrier doesn't fail the challenge

it also doesn't have to be stage 3 specifically, just those maps, so you can loop and do it when you're overpowered enough to do it without even trying

[steady stone]

If possible, the "easiest" way is and hoping for an early to use with the brooches

[lavish jacinth]

it's worth the effort for ballista

having drones to draw aggro helps, better yet have and let them do all the work while you just focus on not getting hit

[lavish jacinth]

you wouldn't really need to hope for it with command, would you

[steady stone]

The hard part is the orange command essence

Especially if you do sacrifice, it can be hard when you need it

[lavish jacinth]

just... find an equipment barrel? they're not exactly rare

[steady stone]

true
im probably thinking too much about the big 3 artis all together

[lavish jacinth]

if you're using sacrifice it might be annoying, but just farm until you get one ig

[steady stone]

It definitely doesn't feel like a 9% drop, but apparently it is

[full apex]

it stacks, so it can get pretty bad

if you let it ramp to like 20 or whatever the limit is it can be crippling, but usually you're in and out enough it doesnt matter

[quasi crystal]

Safer spaces also works assuming you are experienced enough to avoid damage every few seconds
Also didn't see anyone mention it so I will; you can only do this achievement in rally point Delta and scorched acres

[steady stone]

if you pick up fuel array on eclipse, would you just die on stage 2 instantly lol?

[steep mulch]

wtf is guys problem lmao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102657957528883231/1327922176191369297/ezgif-6-5303b43aab.gif

made it into a gif

[full apex]

you have to take damage so no

just being at half health isnt enough

[steady stone]

ah, makes sense
might make for an interesting challenge then

[full apex]

youre instantly in range of the threshold tho, so its very high risk. funny on engineer turrets

[steep mulch]

not happening again pal

[quasi crystal]

Walking turrets for extra funny

[steep mulch]

tried it and you would be shocked by how damn big that explosion is

[frail frigate]

can you only visit prime meridian once per run?

[livid wedge]

Yes. Once you defeat false son and leave the prime meridian, the path of the colossus is closed

[frail frigate]

🤦‍♂️ good to know
not pointing any fingers but someone's dumb ass spent like 3 hours trying to get back into it with artifact of metamorphosis on cuz they wanted to knock out a bunch of skins in one run

could've been literally anyone

[livid wedge]

[daring cloak]

Surprisingly this is wrong

While most access points are shut off, gilded coast will continue to spawn green portals and let you both enter the path and even fight false son multiple times in a run

[quasi crystal]

Neat

[zenith turtle]

Hey! 🙂 How many times more enemies appear with more players on the team?

[zenith turtle]

I guess, its not that simple, but on average

[fair rock]

The best way to answer this in simple terms is "every player adds 30% more enemies technically speaking"

Realistically it's not exactly just a flat +30% per player -- it just starts that way. I believe the way the game scales is different too. All the more complicated info can be found here though:
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Directors

[zenith turtle]

Excellent, thank you!

[zenith turtle]

Yep, I found it before, but I just needed some approximation instead of this whole paragraph 🙂

[fair rock]

Oh my apologies, I was wrong even on the percentage -- it's +50% according to the credit generation formula. creditMultiplier * (1+0.4*coeff) * (player count + 1) / 2. Without going into minutia because I wouldn''t be able to answer you accurately anyway, one player adds +50% more credit generation

Credits are not always used to spawn more enemies though, since more credits means more elites can spawn as well

[zenith turtle]

I am using "sharesuite" mod with my friend and we wanted to build bigger challenge by reducing drop rate for items with artifact of sacrifice enabled. I know that "sharesuite" have a toggle for that, but I wanted to restrict us from the items even harder so I got the mod where I can just set the percentage. Thats where I needed this info - we are playing in groups of different sizes

[zenith turtle]

Thank you once more 🙂

[zenith turtle]

Oh, wait, its around 50% credits right? So amount of enemies will not be higher for 50%. I guess that 30% might be more accurate (considering that in my problem only amount of units will be important, not their type/level)

[fair rock]

Don't elite enemies have increased drop rate w/ Artifact of Sacrifice though?

[zenith turtle]

They generaly have increased drop if I am not mistaken, but not with this mod that I am using to cap the drop percentage

[fair rock]

Notably, this is where I took 30% from - but this is baked into the difficulty coefficient

[fair rock]

Oh, yeah, that's fair

[oak shore]

how the hell do i defeat mithrix

i always get him down to half hp in stage 3

[flint prawn]

Prioritize meta damage items(AtG, bands etc.)

You can also dodge most of his attacks easily with enough movement items and a couple of Hopoo Feathers

[acoustic dune]

genuine question, how the hell do you pot roll?

[fresh umbra]

Does the song that plays faintly in the background during the escape sequence after beating mithrix have a name?

[quasi crystal]

yes, idk tho. Its on spotify, I think?

[latent oyster]

Physics were broken for a little bit after DLC dk if they fixed it yet, but console and PC also have different physics but this should still apply good enough either way: https://youtu.be/6tM_d1ApOrE

[quasi crystal]

switch player been eating good last year ngl

[latent oyster]

How so

[lavish jacinth]

there are some tips for him in the pins here, tl;dr stay at medium distance and watch his attacks, and punish him when he's vulnerable

when he does the big spinny attack in phase 3 (yes that's what it's called) try to move closer to him and move in sync with the lines, he always alternates between spinny and the big ground shockwave so you can sorta predict it

for phase 4 just stick to cover and wear him down from a distance until you're confident enough to approach, and don't forget about your equipment

[quasi crystal]

we didnt lose our game to the dlc 💀

[latent oyster]

I am so glad I didn't try split screen co-op before the phase 1 update

[quasi crystal]

Big true bro

[proud crag]

so i am struggling to get all of mercenary's extra ability loudout, and bandit's B&E and bandit sadist. Got tips?

[lavish jacinth]

for merc, using 20 abilities in 10 seconds and don't touch the ground for 30s are both fairly straightforward, for the first one you basically just have to get group of enemies and keep spamming skills at them, and keep using expose to keep your cooldowns short (and every swing of your sword counts as using an ability btw)

For not touching the ground you can just use to get a bunch of height and then slowly float down, using your skills to stay airborn longer

the special is the hard one, for that I recommend looking at Cabbages' guide's in #prismatic-trials

for bandit sadist, get a couple backup mags and stab alloy worship unit a bunch, using lights out to refresh m2 charges. Hemorrhage lasts a really long time and resets its timer with every stack like bleed, so the only hard part is finding an enemy that can tank it for long enough, hence AWU (Aurelionite works too if you get a gold shrine but there's less wiggle room with its health)

for B&E, basically just focus on direct damage upgrades like and try to avoid proc items that might steal the kill, then poke mithrix to death with your revolver in his last phase. are also fine to take since there's a small grace period to allow for them, should be avoided though

[golden quail]

I need help. im in the artifact boss figth but i have no idea how to beat it

[lavish jacinth]

keep killing enemies until an artifact key drops, then feed it to the orb thing in the middle

repeat until ded

[golden quail]

ohhh thank you so much

[proud crag]

thank you very much AFaxMachine. This is much appreciated.

[lavish jacinth]

np

[golden quail]

Ayy got artifact of command 😄

(wrong channel oops)

[proud crag]

What are yall's favorite survivors to play? Me personally I think artificer can be underrated at times, commando is also pretty good, huntress-while I enjoy her gameplay and love playing her- think people over hype her, and loader is a very good survivor. Same with railgunner.

[cursive compass]

Afaik this video is now outdated

Potrolling dlc update+ is as simple as walking into the pots in the direction you want them to go

Kickflipping is also no longer possible

[cursive compass]

My favourite survivor is probably Void Fiend, I love his flexibility and really insane strength when you play aggressively

I love all of the characters pretty much equally, I think they're all really really fun

[proud crag]

I must agree with you. He is very fun. Me presonally, when I first got the DLC (survivors of the void) I mained him and loved playing him. After a while I got bored of only using him and just waned away, especially because at that time all you could get for him was monsoon mastery skin, which I had. And on your second statement, I must agree, they are all very fun to play (except chef and rex. I hate both of them deeply).

[cursive compass]

Not my poor lil Rex!!

He's kinda rough but he grew on me a lot as I did my eclipse climb

[north drift]

Yall- first time playing monsoon (usually speedrun on drizzle) and this golem had a little status effect, two red swords crossing above him- first time I've seen it. Yall know what it means? He's dead now I'm just wondering

[livid wedge]

@north drift Did you ping them? That's what happens when you ping an enemy unit

It's not a status effect, just a mark above the enemy so everyone can focus

[north drift]

Ohh i probably did on accident

Thank you:))

[void fossil]

Strafe or flurry

[lavish jacinth]

kinda up to preference, strafe is better initially but flurry starts becoming better once you get at least 20% crit chance

flurry is obviously much better if you do manage to get a lot of crit but there's no guarantee of that without command, so it's a little bit of a gamble

the wiki has a some charts if you want the numbers https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Huntress#Strafe_vs._Flurry

[full berry]

Is Transendence good for an E8 run?
no idea.

[lavish jacinth]

very

[marble osprey]

Yeah, it negates the more fall damage from e3 and the decreased healing as well

[lavish jacinth]

it effectively cancels out e1, e3 and e5, and the extra health helps with e8's reduction

[full berry]

oh i was hoping it'd do that

that just makes it so much easier

thanks guys

[true gull]

Does anybody have any tips for a brand new player?

[lavish jacinth]

there are some general tips in the pins here if you scroll down a bit, but you'll learn a lot just by playing the game

the two biggest things would just be to loot as much as you can and don't panic over the timer, and to get used to dying a lot at first

a pretty common new player mistake is thinking that they need to rush through stages as fast as possible without grabbing any items, but items are how you get stronger. The timer will always beat you if you just try to outrun it

and getting used to death is just standard for roguelikes, just try to learn from every death and do better next time

oh yeah, and you might wanna turn on the inspect item feature, it's hidden under the umbrella settings thing on the game menu along with some other nice QoL stuff

it'll let you see more detailed descriptions of items and other stuff before picking them up, without having to pause and look at the logbook. Helps a ton when you haven't already memorized everything lol

[frosty reef]

disputed origin's eclipse guide

[full berry]

whats an optimal equipment for Eclipse?

[lavish jacinth]

Anything that's good normally, or whatever works with your build. There's nothing really specific to eclipse

would be my top 5 personally, both for eclipse and normal runs, with honorable mentions to

[fresh umbra]

FOR REAL

[true gull]

I’ve found some success in rushing through stage 1 and maybe 2 (if I can find the teleporter fast enough) and then shooting and looting in 3-5

Don’t know if that’s an effective strategy but it seems to work decently

It’s what led me to my first endgame run

Tbf railgunner carried me there for the most part but I like to think that railgunner isn’t a cheap way to play the game

[ancient cedar]

So for artifact of command does the item need to be discovered in the logbook? Or do I just need to complete the challenge for it to show up in the command node

[lavish jacinth]

it just needs to be unlocked, not discovered

[lavish jacinth]

It can work but I wouldn't recommend it, it really is better to loot as much as you can, for a couple reasons

one being that the timer accelerates with every stage you complete, so rushing two stages just means you've made the game harder without much to show for it

[true gull]

Oh so the difficulty doesn’t rise at a set rate?

[lavish jacinth]

the other being that enemy gold drops scale in real time while chest prices only update at the start of a stage, so looting actually gets more efficient if you hang around longer. Whereas if you keep rushing, chest prices keep catching up and you're constantly stuck in that phase where everything is to expensive

[true gull]

Yeah I did notice I was kinda broke all the time

Until stage 6

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it increases by about 15% per stage

[true gull]

That’s good to know, I guess I’ll stick to the 5 minute rule

[lavish jacinth]

nah

[true gull]

No?

[lavish jacinth]

5 minute rule is an old-ass meta that was more relevant for ror1

best rule of thumb imo is to go for at least one item per minute while still looting as much as you can

if it takes 10 minutes to beat stage 1, then that's fine as long as you're getting 10+ items from it
Obviously faster is better, but items are so impactful that leaving them behind just to get to mithrix like 30 seconds faster isn't worth it

[true gull]

I kinda undervalued items ngl, but looking back, the less items I had in a run, the faster I died, so it all makes sense now

I was able to curb stomp mithrix with maybe 15 items though

AFAIK that’s not that many

[lavish jacinth]

nope lol, on a full looting run you'd have like 60+

[true gull]

Wow

[lavish jacinth]

getting fewer items also means you're relying more on RNG for those items to actually be good

[true gull]

Tbf I got really good items

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, if you get 15 really good items then that might be fine, especially if you're playing a naturally strong character like railgunner

[true gull]

Idk the names of most of them, but I had the item that upgrades the rest of your items at the next stage and that definitely helped a lot

And the items that got upgraded were kinda goated

On top of the way too high dps railgunner puts out and my pretty decent aim

[lavish jacinth]

oh, benthic bloom
yeah that's kind of a weird exception lol, if you get lucky with it it'll hard carry a run

[true gull]

Yeah I figured that’s why I was able to get as far as I did with as little items as I had

[lavish jacinth]

but it could also decide to turn half your inventory into aegis or something, or just more copies of itself lol

[true gull]

Oh it’s randomized

I thought items upgraded linearly

Like an upgrade path

[lavish jacinth]

it's partly random

it always upgrades into something of the same category, so damage items will always upgrade into damage items

[ancient cedar]

Ok then I’m confused because I have all common items except 2 (1 undiscovered, 1 locked) but the command node says 10 locked

[lavish jacinth]

but there's some overlap between categories, and the upgrades aren't necessarily gonna be better

[north coral]

Gimme a shrine of order and benthic bloom

[true gull]

It did upgrade my particularly terrible items into ones that seemed really good, at least in their descriptions

[lavish jacinth]

probably dlc items

[true gull]

I know next to nothing about what items really do though

I have to check out the log book

[ancient cedar]

I don’t own any of the dlcs but I have played with someone that has them can that add them to my inventory? I just can’t use them?

[lavish jacinth]

if it gave you and you had some drones, that would practically carry a run by itself

[true gull]

There was this one void item that turned all of my items into itself and I got murdered by stage 2 with it

Hate that thing

[north coral]

EGOCENTRISM THE BELOVED

[lavish jacinth]

nah, they always show up in the command menu. But they'll be available to choose if you're in a lobby with someone who has the dlcs

[north coral]

THE CURSED SPIRIT

[true gull]

Egocentrism sucks so bad

[lavish jacinth]

it's very funny

it's actually insanely strong once it gets going

[north coral]

bro got egocentirsm’d

[true gull]

I can’t believe that

[lavish jacinth]

the dps caps out at around 21,000% iirc

[true gull]

I guess I just didn’t buy enough items

Skill issue I guess

[ancient cedar]

Oh ok so I do have almost all them just the locked ones are probably dlc

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you kinda have to play differently with ego, just get as many items as you can and don't worry too much about which ones specifically. And don't get attached to any rare items since they'll probably get eaten eventually. And buy healing drones so you always have a source of healing (which is worth doing anyway, but even more with ego)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[true gull]

Can someone tell me if railgunner is too cheesy, I like the aim based survivors but I don’t want the game to be too easy, and if railgunner is shameful I don’t wanna play her

[ancient cedar]

Alright thanks

[lavish jacinth]

I kinda wish the dlc items had a different lock icon or something, a lot of people get confused about that lol

[latent oyster]

None of the characters are shameful to use

Except Chef

[lavish jacinth]

eh, it doesn't matter lol
ror2's survivors definitely aren't perfectly balanced, but it's also a PvE game so just play what's fun

[true gull]

The ror2 community seems a lot less toxic than others

Must be the soundtrack pacifying everyone

[latent oyster]

This is a server after a redemption arc

[true gull]

Care to elaborate?

One more question, do the actual devs run this server or is this a fan made server

[latent oyster]

Official server

[true gull]

Sick

[latent oyster]

I wasn't there for those times, but some of the other members have stories of the dark ages

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there's been some drama in the past

it wasn't that bad, basically just a lot of arguing over the game meta or whatever, and people taking things too far occasionally. I never got too involved in but I was there for some of it

the ror2 community has never been anywhere near as bad as some other games though, on average it's always been pretty chill

[latent oyster]

Yeah on a scale of COD to LoL it falls more into TF2 rank

[lavish jacinth]

probably helps that it's a pretty casual game, not a lot of incentive for people to be tryhards or elitists

[true gull]

Yeah that’s true, but Elden ring is largely pve and I mean…just look at the people playing it

They’ll send you death threats for using bloodhounds blade

[silent lark]

can you only do green portal first 2 times around ?

like first 2 loops

[true gull]

Back about a year ago when I was playing ror2, there were these blue portals that would spawn after the portal event, and they led to a seemingly secret level, but I haven’t had those happen since I got back into playing, am I doing something differently or did they get removed or changed in some way?

[lavish jacinth]

there's no specific point where you can't get one, but if you've already been to path of the colossus once, then you can't get more green portals (although you can still get back there from gilded coast or lunar seers)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, blue portals have a small chance to randomly appear after beating the teleporter (like 5% I think?), but you can guarantee it by using a newt altar before starting the tp

[silent lark]

so, i haven’t done it, been in a run for 500 minutes, tried lunar and stuff and haven’t gotten it past 2nd loop

[lavish jacinth]

yeah it's a pain in the ass

[true gull]

Oh man I used to get them every other run

[lavish jacinth]

but it's definitely possible to get there

[true gull]

Just lucky I guess

[silent lark]

and i’ve found it happen the same way with every run i’ve done

[lavish jacinth]

I'm assuming you haven't already killed false son?

[true gull]

How do you even get false son?

[silent lark]

i have

multiple times

not this run tho

[lavish jacinth]

I mean in your current run, yeah

if he's dead then you can't go back

[silent lark]

nah, haven’t activated anothing dlc wise

can you 100% do it thru aeronite everytime ?

[lavish jacinth]

if you're within the first 3 stages of a loop, yeah

[lavish jacinth]

The survivor? find a gold shrine, go through it and get , then go to prime meridian and beat the false son boss

oh and if you plan on doing it, you should know that there's currently a bug where you won't get the unlock if FS dies too quickly, you have to make sure Aurelionite actually spawns

[silent lark]

it’s a dlc @true gull

[true gull]

Yeah I have both, I was just asking about the process

It was a crime for them to give me railgunner for free

I like bandit but I love railgunner

Just wish she had more mobility than just her bomb :/

[lavish jacinth]

the mines go a long way if you're good with em

and technically you can use the recoil on smart rounds and her specials for a little extra boost

[true gull]

Yeah the video I watched told me that, my sens is too low to hit the 180 needed for the distance boost, so I just use it to mitigate fall damage

[lavish jacinth]

smart rounds can also let her fly with enough attack speed, but it's not really worth stacking that much AS unless you're using the alt scope

[ruby totem]

She needs to have a downside bro, her damage is just too god, imagine if she had good mobility

[lavish jacinth]

that is also true

then she'd just be loader lol

[ruby totem]

[quasi crystal]

There's wisdom in attack speed if you're using default special too

[lavish jacinth]

a little, but you still wouldn't wanna be printing syringes

[quasi crystal]

You know what you would wanna print though

[placid rampart]

my friend wants me to help him unlock artifact of command but i dont wanna unlock it. Can i help him beat balwark's ambry but leave before i unlock the artifact?

[true gull]

Just beat false son

[lavish jacinth]

If you leave the game, yeah

Not sure why you wouldn't wanna unlock it though, it's not like you're forced to use it

[true gull]

How do you unlock it?

That’s like priority number 1 for me

[lavish jacinth]

Do you know how to unlock artifacts in general?

[wet pendant]

Just stack attack speed and hold M1

[true gull]

I know how to unlock one

Dunno the name

Or which biome it was in, but it was the one with the puzzle and teleporter under the map

I died before I could unlock it though

[true gull]

Bro this item just halved my attack speed

Not ok

The light flux pauldron is terrible for railgunner

[marble osprey]

That's how you unlock (almost) all of them, the puzzle thing lets you input different codes that correspond to different artifacts

[true gull]

Ohhhh

Are the codes randomized?

[analog brook]

Nope

[marble osprey]

They're hidden throughout the game but it's a massive pain and you won't know which one correlates to which artifact so I'd just look up the codes online

[true gull]

Yeah thats what I was gonna do

[quasi crystal]

I thought the list was pinned

[true gull]

Why is the door the the artifact portal closed on sky meadow?

[quasi crystal]

Just jump down there

[full berry]

tentabauble vs polyulite (im an engi on E8)

third option

[daring cloak]

Plute

[full berry]

key*

[full berry]

whar

[daring cloak]

Polylute

[full berry]

alright

thanks for the help

[full berry]

can you do blood pillars with transendence?
at all?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[full berry]

y'know
i dont wanna find out...

[daring cloak]

It just counts your shield in too

[twilit yacht]

what are these items and where / how do you get them? theyre the final thing im missing from the logbook and ive racked my noggin for ideas and im dry

[daring cloak]

Thats the pearls

Rarely on some specific maps, an interactable called a cleansing pool will spawn

If you use it, it will take one random lunar item or equipment from you and turn it into a pearl or irradiant pearl

[twilit yacht]

ooohh yeah i completely forgot about them. is it random or can i influence iin any way which pearl im gonna get?

[daring cloak]

Nope its random

But its a 20% chance for an irradiant pearl so with a bit of luck or a couple lunar items it shouldnt be too hard

Especially if you take egocentrism

[twilit yacht]

gotcha, so down to just luck then

thanks!

[full berry]

I lost the Eclipse 8

i almost beat voidling 😔
the game lagged during parkour

and i got suffocated

god.. this game bruh..

[patent mesa]

is railgunner easy to use on console

esp on steam deck. want to beat voidling but im really only good with bandit

worried i won’t be able to beat voidling if i don’t learn someone else

[analog brook]

She isn't that bad, you don't really need to aim as much as you just line up your shot and then quickly use your secondary and then primary back to back

[fresh umbra]

I thought mithrix was the only way to win in eclipse

[analog brook]

You can go to voidling by petting the glass frog on the moon. but killing mithrix is unavoidable

[fresh umbra]

Right

[true gull]

I got the artifact of control last night

I’m definitely using it wrong

I focus too much on the really good attack items and completely forget about the support ones

Doesn’t help that I don’t know what most items do, and it also seems like it’s not showing me every item in the selection?

[peak jacinth]

it won’t show DLC items if you don’t have the DLCs and it won’t show items you haven’t unlocked

[true gull]

But it has been showing me items I haven’t unlocked, and not showing me ones I have unlocked

Bungus for example, or benthic bloom

Two items I have for sure found that I cannot select in the menus

And it’s not a dlc issue, as I have both

I have about 5 of the red items unlocked but it shows me about 20

But when it comes to void items, I only get 4-5

Some that I’ve also never found

[peak jacinth]

bungus and benthic bloom are automatically unlocked when you buy the game or dlc respectively

[peak jacinth]

void items have rarities just like normal items, so you don’t get to see all of them at once

[wide parrot]

1. You’re likely just not seeing the items you have unlocked.
2. An item that is blacked out in the logbook is unlocked, you just haven’t seen it yet.
3. Some command item pools are smaller than they look, like Void Items or the Halycon Seed. Void items are split into 3 tiers based on the rarity of the item they corrupt, which is why you only see 5 of them at a time. Other special items like the Halycon Seed or Elite Aspects have their own exclusive pools, so simply getting a yellow Command Essence won’t be enough to get them, as you still have to get them how you would normally.

Command can show you items you’ve unlocked but never found, that doesn’t matter

[peak jacinth]

thats also because you start the game with those unlocked

[true gull]

I might just be blind but it doesn’t seem like I have every uncommon item on the list, and I know for sure that list doesn’t alternate, why is that?

I get now why the void items are like that but uncommon is still kinda weird to leave items out of

[peak jacinth]

if you don’t have all the uncommon items unlocked then they’ll appear locked on the command menu

otherwise it’s just that you aren’t seeing them like Mercenary said above

[true gull]

Alright, thanks for the info

[zealous shell]

I bought the game earlier, but without the dlcs and I only see like 2 open lobbies. Do people only play with the dlc stuff on? I want to experience the game without the dlcs at first 😦

[lavish jacinth]

No, you can still join lobbies if you don't have dlc. Try turning crossplay off in settings, that usually helps since crossplay is glitchy and nobody really uses it.

But if it's already off then it's possible there just aren't many people playing right now

Although you'll probably have a hard time finding many lobbies without dlc either way, your best bet might be #lfg-pc-ror2 or just playing singleplayer

[zealous shell]

Oh I have crossplay off

[patent mesa]

alright will try to learn her

would you guys recommend using bandit against Voidling?? or using another character outright

i only really know how to use bandit

[zealous shell]

hey, so my gpu and cpu usage is only at like 30% and with a lot of actions my fps drops to like 60 ish. Is that a Unity engine problem?

[lavish jacinth]

It does seem to be a unity problem, yeah. Unfortunately I don't know if there's much you can do about it, I've heard some people say that unity doesn't play nice with overclocked cpus so you can try messing with that, but it seems to vary.
You can try asking #ror2-tech-support but answers there are pretty slow

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, bandit works, you'll probably wanna loop and pick up some mobility items for the fight first, particularly hopoo feathers so you can jump over the sweeping laser and do the parkour sections easier

[patent mesa]

thx will give it a shot after i unlock bands

[azure junco]

If I’m going for my first monsoon run as captain what should I know?

[lavish jacinth]

Nothing really specific to monsoon, just full loot and be as efficient as you can like usual

for Cap you can just build him like commando, go for procs and attack speed and stuff. He just has a better band proc and less mobility (although microbots partly make up for that)

drones are extra useful with his passive, grab those too if you weren't already

[proud crag]

what is a really fun to play survivor that is kinda underrated?

[high forum]

huntress

[left trellis]

whichever survivor you think you don't like

[analog brook]

scrap launcher specifically

[quasi crystal]

Nail scrap power mode actually shreds with the reworked luminous

[proud crag]

really? I thought a lot of people liked and played huntress. me personally she is very fun to play. I have always enjoyed glass cannons.

[lavish jacinth]

Huntress is a glass cannon without the cannon

[full apex]

She's popular i think for high accessibility

[lavish jacinth]

that, and she just feels good to play, even with her damage being so low

[left trellis]

huntress is bad on paper, but the thing about RoR2 is that that doesn't matter. the characters are just different playstyles, ultimately their relative power levels don't matter that much because at the end of the day they're all viable

[quasi crystal]

[ruby totem]

The only way to get rid of the "permanent" damage on eclipse is advancing stages right?

[quasi crystal]

dying works too, if you have seed of life or shaping buff

[odd kernel]

When phase 2 🦧

[left trellis]

When It's Done

[lavish jacinth]

they haven't given a date yet, but probably not before February if I had to guess

just based on the fact that they finished the last update in mid-December and then took a break for the holidays

[weak crow]

let them cook🔥

[true gull]

Just beat the game

[high forum]

Congrats!

Now do it again

[quasi crystal]

Just beat stage 1

[still ravine]

hey guys whats the general strategy for artificer?

[steady stone]

She's a "burst" character, so burst items like or work well
Her signature is also , because fire skills

[still ravine]

how do i unlock ?

i have not seen that yet

i dont have any dlcs btw

[steady stone]

||On abandoned aquaducts, there's pressure plates around the map. A bunch of possible spots but only 2 spawn each time. You need to hit both at once to open a gate with 2 elite elder lems, and kill them for bands. They can be pressed down simultaneously in multiplayer, with , captain beacons, engineer turrets, or lunar coins.||

[still ravine]

Sounds good. Any other items then ? Don’t have dlcs

Thanks by the way

[lavish jacinth]

nothing else that's too special, damage multipliers and total damage procs are good as always. If you're running flamethrower then you'll wanna look for mobility items a lot too ( in particular is a godsend), but with ion surge you can pretty much ignore 90% of enemies so you can afford to focus almost entirely on damage

[steady stone]

also, we're legally required to tell you "ion surge and flamethrower both have their advantages and disadvantages, and both can be used effectively for different purposes"

[still ravine]

sounds good lol. right now i am using the ability that shoots you up in the air and it seems very good

[lavish jacinth]

surge is definitely the "better" option, flamethrower is underpowered (but way more fun)

[still ravine]

flamethrower seems good with the DOT damage

[steady stone]

just a heads up that there is currently a bug that removes other DoTs when burn ends, like bleed and collapse, so it will be worse than intended

[still ravine]

oh ok good to know

[lavish jacinth]

flamethrower keeps getting accidentally nerfed lol

[lavish jacinth]

the DoT is alright, but without , the bulk of its damage comes from its direct damage and procs

[hardy wing]

Guys what's the best surviver for looping (for two people)

[lavish jacinth]

probably engineer but it doesn't matter that much

[hardy wing]

Mane i mean the best for the game not for winning i want to have fun not sit in a bubble

[lavish jacinth]

then pick the one that you like the most lol

(and do yourself a favor and unlock his alt utility, bubble shield is mid at best)

[hardy wing]

I dont think railgunner is gonna get me very far

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, she's one of the strongest survivors in the game

false son or loader would also be strong choices but again, just pick the ones you like

the more you loop the less your survivor matters, eventually your items will be doing most of the work anyway

[hardy wing]

False son?

[lavish jacinth]

DLC character

[hardy wing]

Tought so

Ok thanks

[lavish jacinth]

np

[proven light]

Starting my eclipse climb has made me realize that I'm ridiculously inefficient when it comes to looting. I've mainly just been playing monsoon with friends up till now and eclipse is kicking my ass. I've been told by people a lot better than me that full clear is always better but if it takes like 3 minutes to get to the other half of the stage to grab a chest you missed, is it worth it?

Tl;DR, at what point is it better to leave than to waste time grabbing an extra item or two?

[lavish jacinth]

A good rule of thumb is to try to get everything on the stage (including drones if you've got extra cash, but items are priority) and still leave with more items than minutes.

Don't let the timer stress you out if looting feels slow initially- if you didn't know, enemy gold drops scale in real time, but since chest prices only update at the start of a stage, looting gets more efficient the longer you hang around. But if you rush, the prices keep catching up and grinding will always be slow

if you wanna go for max efficiency you can use the initial slow period to scout the stage a bit, work out a route that'll let you cover the whole stage and end at the teleporter and spot any good printers or whatever

[proven light]

Okay, cool. Thx for the good advice

[lime burrow]

I’ve heard that the “seekers of the storm” dlc isn’t great, and I think that’s because of bugs on release. If so, is it worth getting yet?

[lavish jacinth]

it's gotten a lot better

there are still more updates coming but the worst of the bugs are fixed and the items don't suck anymore

[lime burrow]

Your phrasing suggests that there are still some bugs, although I expect they aren’t too bad. Will those bugs lose effect if I just turn off the dlc before a round? (As in, the “expansions” section below the difficulty and above the relics)

[lavish jacinth]

yes and no, some bugs are basegame and others are in the dlc itself

[lime burrow]

Hm… a lot to consider. I wasn’t going to buy it immediately, I was probably going to wait for a sale, but I still appreciate the input nonetheless.

[lavish jacinth]

for what it's worth, gearbox has done a good job with the updates so far, and most of the remaining bugs are pretty minor, so there's reason to believe the dlc will eventually be in a much better state

probably still smart to wait, just depends on how impatient you are lol

[quasi crystal]

Is there a formula for railgunners supercharge reboot

[full apex]

appears to just be duration/attackspeed

base duration appears to be 6, so at 200% AS it would be 3s and etc

[quasi crystal]

What is base as? 1?

[full apex]

1 yes

also weird, wiki and skill desc say it should be 5s

lemme time it again

[quasi crystal]

I was at 5 as and still had like 18 scrap to spare so I was curious lol

[full apex]

mmm yea no its def 6s base, weird that everything says 5s

guess i should log that somewhere but i'll just note it for now haha.

also yea at 5AS its like just over 1s of downtime

[quasi crystal]

Yuh ty lol

Weird both wikis have it wrong

[full apex]

its probably never been scrutinized, it seems close enough. so gg still has it from when it was copied from fandom initially

i never noticed lol

[dry glen]

is there any way to speed up a artifact vault?
currently trying to get delusion but been stuck in here for a solid 10 minutes so far cause they just arent dropping the keys
(running sacrifice + kin and got stone titans atm)

cause this is actualy torture

[lavish jacinth]

nope

although I'd recommend not running kin if you plan to unlock artifacts for that exact reason, normally it's not THAT bad

[dry glen]

just got the 2nd key 😭

well its just that im doing a egocentrism build/run and wanna end up cleansing them for the pearls
and i figured might aswell do a artifact since i gotta loop anyway

[lavish jacinth]

unfortunate

[dry glen]

and the worst part is
i got one early on... and ego ate it immediatly 😭

[candid loom]

will equipment drone revive me in solo if i give it the seed of life

[marble osprey]

From what I understand it needs to see an enemy to activate it's equipment, so if it sees one quickly enough after you die then yes, but if the results screen pops up before that happens then it won't work properly, although you can still see your character get revived in the background behind the results screen. It usually does the second option afaik

[candid loom]

but the equipment is a passive so thats why im unsure

[marble osprey]

It's both, it's a passive for the holder, but you can also use it to revive teammates actively. If the equipment drone dies, it'll passively revive itself, but to revive you is active

[candid loom]

it auto activates when a teammate dies tho

[marble osprey]

It doesn't

[candid loom]

from what i remember it does but im pretty new to the game so i wont argue

oh it just did but it didnt do anything

now it just puts the healing orbs thingy on enemies

[honest lichen]

Hello, I just started playing ror2 and I'm trying to max out commando character. I have beat the game 4 times, 2 in solo, 2 in co-op and am unable to unlock the skin. All other skills are unlocked already. The skin never gets unlocked and I don't get the achievement, any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[hoary sedge]

are you on monsoon difficulty

[honest lichen]

No, normal. I thought monsoon was an area. It's the difficulty level? That makes sense. Thank you.

[daring cloak]

Yeah monsoon is the hard difficulty

[honest lichen]

Appreciate the help!

[high oracle]

hey guys quick question
how good are the 2 green bands ?

[daring cloak]

Very good if you have a high damage skill

[lavish jacinth]

They're some of the best green items in the game

[quasi crystal]

Even without high damage skills and the new luminous shot are excellent band proceers

[signal pelican]

bands are a must have for nearly every character

[lavish jacinth]

"Must have" is taking it a little far

but they range from good to amazing

[quasi crystal]

Bands are bad on no one but must have is a stretch lol
are probably the must have category

[lavish jacinth]

honestly I'd narrow it to just since they rely on burst for a large chunk of their damage output, while the rest have strong proc options
(if we wanna really get into semantics then they're not a must have for anyone, just very strong and often preferable over other options for some survivors)

[quasi crystal]

Semantics sure I guess just that bands are just leagues more powerful on them over everyone else maybe not viend ig

[signal pelican]

I mean, I'll put it this way, I'm almost NEVER sad to see bands unless I'm commando. The characters in which it isn't incredible still do great with it and I would be willing to give up almost any green for a band print if I didn't already have it

I think it's an incredible item that really just enables the run to go much smoother once they show up, and they've only been getting better with the new content

[lavish jacinth]

they're great items but people do overhype them a little imo

like, don't get me wrong, they're never bad by any means, but for a lot of survivors they're more of a "nice to have" rather than a necessity

[cedar pine]

What damage items are good on mercenary?

Besides focus crystals thats obvious enough

[lavish jacinth]

nothing too special, he mainly wants procs

is especially good though (moreso than usual), it has a special synergy that lets his exposing skills apply two stacks of expose at a time

(the debuff icon doesn't show stacks but you can hit them twice before the expose goes away)

is also really nice, plus anything else that gives skill charges

[quasi crystal]

Merc loves luminous

[cedar pine]

Ty both

[hardy wing]

Afax

What the flip you said I had to pet the frog 7 times nothing happened

[livid wedge]

It's 10 times

[hardy wing]

Afax said 7 what the sigma

[weak crow]

would a 3.0 proc coeff for diablo be too much

[lavish jacinth]

when tf did I say that lol

it's 10 times

[hardy wing]

Idk like 6 months ago ngl

[lavish jacinth]

you're remembering wrong then?

because I definitely don't remember it, but there's also zero reason I would've said 7 lol

[hardy wing]

Idk your like the only person I talk to here might have been someone else

[lavish jacinth]

probably

[rancid drift]

Every time i reach the final stage of dlc seekers of the storm my game crashing because of how much effect coming out of the ground. Is this a bug? It looks like a thunder striking ground but not damaging character. If its not a bug is there a way to lower amount of effects?

[next grotto]

i think u should try playing with Monsoon if u have played other difficulties

[ruby totem]

They're the 3rd best green, sale star and transmitter are just too good

But they're not necessary for anyone, I will argue that the only "necessary " items on most survivors are or Elusive antlers

[broken vessel]

i got silence between two strikes as engineer, does it work for my turrets too?

[lavish jacinth]

Yes

[lavish jacinth]

Nah, I'd put bands on the same level as atg and maybe shuriken, which one is best depends on survivor

Like, bands' strength is that they're always proccing on a strong hit and you can generally control when they proc, but atg can absolutely beat them in terms of overall damage output

[ruby totem]

I prefer bands than atg because bands are guaranteed
Shuriken is better but tbh i don't like it very much

[lavish jacinth]

Being guaranteed doesn't mean it's actually better

If you prefer it then that's one thing, but "I like it more" is not the same as "it's better"

[ruby totem]

Of course, atg with a good attack speed is infinitely better

But it's still a chance

It depends on the character, if I'm playing loader or default m1 RG I would prefer bands, if I'm commando or captain, atg would be better

But overall I think being guaranteed is better because (even if it's unlikely) when something is a 10% chance you can fight a lot and not having them proc

[lavish jacinth]

Like I said

If a character deals pretty much exclusively in strong, slow hits then yeah, bands are better. But for everyone else it depends

[ruby totem]

I would say that greens for me are probably Star > Transmitter > bands = atg > shuriken

[lavish jacinth]

Personally I think it's a little pointless to rank them anyway considering you don't always get that option in a non-command run

Theyre all really good greens

(Also theoretically shuriken beats almost anything for damage with enough stacks)

[full apex]

i think atg is basically always better than bands, apart from maybe early-mid railer or lodr or maybe diablo

being a big chunk on a consistent timer is pretty solid, but atg is a chain item. it activates other items, including bands themselves if they are up

tbh, the CD on bands doesnt really scale very well either since you lose control of them anyways once you get a lot of effects happening, especially when things are more hectic, and those are the times that atg and uke are at their best

[lavish jacinth]

Bands also feel really strong to use which is part of why people overrate them, I think

[full apex]

you see most of the big hits directly yea

which was the exact design decision when they changed them from an 8% chance on hit haha, so thats probably a good thing

it is definitely easy to forget or not think as much about all the extra atg proc chances coming out of the random stuff you get like razorwire or fireworks or disciple or whatever other nonsense you get over time, and all those extra hits give extra chances for proc chains to kick in while bands are resting, on top of the same main big hits

[marble osprey]

Idk about putting transmitter that high personally bc I just don't want more than 1
Like it's good yeah but I'd never take it over another good green in a shop bc im sure I'll get one eventually and any more I get are basically useless

Whereas atgs or bands I want as many of as I can possibly get

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, transmitter is practically a weaker reusable dio right now

You literally can't die if it's off cooldown because it gates damage below 25%

I'd say that's pretty worthy of it being top tier

[ruby totem]

^ this
The item is op rn, I honestly think it should have a longer CD (90s maybe) or something because it basically makes you inmortal + protects watches

[void zenith]

can someone explain to me what do I do to beat the game?

[lavish jacinth]

really it just needs to not have the damage gating

[lavish jacinth]

kill the final boss

[void zenith]

do I have to figure out how to use the teleporter below on stage 5 or is it something else?

[ruby totem]

Kill Mithrix in the 6th stage
If you interact with the things around 5th stage you're going to loop instead of going to the moon

[ruby totem]

That's for artifacts, things that modify the game in different ways

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, you just... use it?
By default it takes you to the moon, but if you interact with the prong things around the edge or leave through any other portal, you'll loop

[void zenith]

I never interact with anything I just press the start button on the teleporter but it loops every time

[void zenith]

ive never interacted with any of that

[lavish jacinth]

are you sure you're not pressing these things?

[ruby totem]

You're using the teleporter from below the map, that's not it

[void zenith]

no im not

[lavish jacinth]

the teleporter underneath the map is something different, yeah

[void zenith]

im just asking if thats what it was because I couldn't figure anything else out

[lavish jacinth]

and you're not leaving through a blue portal or something?

[void zenith]

oh I can't go through the blue portal first?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[void zenith]

alr

[lavish jacinth]

any portal besides the teleporter will loop

[ruby totem]

If the teleporter is like it is in the image then you go to the moon (final stage), if you go blue portal or interact with those things you loop (the chat says something like "the primordial teleporter aligns with the planet)

[timid ledge]

Guys, how to save RoR2 game progress and play on other PC on Steam? Last time i was lost my progress cuz im re-download my Windows, how to avoid this trouble next time?

[lavish jacinth]

it should carry your progress over with steam cloud, not sure why it wouldn't unless you have it disabled. But if it happens you can use a mod to get your progress back https://thunderstore.io/package/prodzpod/RealerCheatUnlocks/

[marble osprey]

It's good yeah but it stacks horribly, there's no point in having more than one
Unless you're dying more than every 45 seconds, in which case you have bigger problems
If I already have one I'd never take it over almost any other green, and even if I don't id prioritize ones that do stack well over it since I'll likely get one at some point regardless

Whereas something like atg band or sale star I almost always hit in a shop without thinking and/or print lots with green scrap

[cursive compass]

If anything thats an amazing advantage, since it means you can save your scrap on other things rather than stacking it to get the best benefit

Just 1 stack of it is insanely strong

[lavish jacinth]

and "I'll likely get one at some point" isn't exactly a great argument with how many items are in the green pool, and they're not THAT common

[marble osprey]

They kinda are tho, especially with things like halcyon shrines prioritizing sots items
They're also just not that insane, just like dios it can be a nice safety net but you shouldn't be triggering it often enough for it to contribute enough to be a top tier item

[lavish jacinth]

the thing that keeps dio out of top tier is that it's single use

oh, and transmitter also protects elixir and watch, which even dio doesn't do

not triggering it often arguably makes it better if anything, because it just means it'll always be ready if you do end up needing it

[marble osprey]

Dio isn't top tier bc it's just not great, in most cases you either don't use it at all, or you're doing poorly enough that you'll just die a second time anyway
Like you could stack it for it to not be single-use, but when would you ever do that?

[lavish jacinth]

I fail to see how reusable immortality wouldn't be strong but sure

and falling to low health happens a lot more often than outright dying

[marble osprey]

Ok given the choice would you stack dios then? That's reusable immortality

[lavish jacinth]

no, because it's not actually reusable lol
but if dio had a cooldown I'd probably take it

(plus the fact that you only need one stack to get a really powerful safety net is part of what makes it strong)

[fair rock]

I've witnessed a friend of mine who went through E7 Arti and found Transmitter and Blast Shower stage 1. I was doubting his ability to survive since he'd go low health pretty constantly, but early on he had some healing items for padding, and later on when he got a Fuel Cell he didn't need anything else but Transmitter for survival

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, I forgot to bring that up, blast shower resets it

with transmitter, blast shower and gesture you're basically unkillable

[flint prawn]

Transmitter needs its cooldown tripled and the blast shower interaction removed to be even remotely balanced imo

[lavish jacinth]

eh, they just need to remove the damage gate, it would be fine without that

[flint prawn]

I'd rather they not do that personally tbh, a 25%HP item doing its job is very rare

[fair rock]

I think Transmitter is fine as is since, as stated before, it stacks horribly and its cooldown is long enough that, if you're dying horribly it will save you once

(Also it'd suck to make Blast Shower arbitrarily not work with Transmitter)

In fact I'd rather propose Stealthkit to be buffed to match its current power honestly

[lavish jacinth]

they need to just revert stealthkit to being a chance to activate when you get hit honestly

they changed it to be "more consistent" or something but it just sucks now

[marble osprey]

A lot of the dlc items have that same issue tho of being really strong on one stack but way less good to stack

[lavish jacinth]

(old stealthkit also didn't have a cooldown and stacking increased the cloak duration which was great, though they could prooobably reintroduce a small cooldown since they've also tweaked enemy AI to respect cloaking more)

old stealthkit was cool and I'm still salty about it lmao

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, gearbox is weirdly allergic to linear stacking for some reason

they seem to really want to have items stack multiple effects in smaller amounts

[fair rock]

It's an...odd way to balance the game, especially when the older items already stack linearly and tend to be more efficient anyway lol

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's not inherently bad, it works for stuff like gasoline or shuriken

[marble osprey]

Gas and shuriken have really good stacking tho

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the issue with the gearbox items is that they don't stack well

[marble osprey]

Besides growth nectar anyway lol

[lavish jacinth]

growth nectar stole all of the stacking juice

[marble osprey]

And then spilled it on the floor making everything slippery

[wide parrot]

growth nectar IS the stacking juice

[lavish jacinth]

then on the other hand you have bolstering lantern having the most annoying stacking ever

I don't know why they didn't just increase the attack speed buff directly instead of the weird overcomplicated radius/max buff stacks thing

actually I think the main problem is that they overcomplicated all of their ideas when ror2 items tend to work best when they're simple

[quasi crystal]

Overspill.

[peak jacinth]

I’m late to this so I’m not gonna ping reply.

Items not stacking well but being strong on the first stack isn’t really a big downside because otherwise we’d consider basically every red bad (unless you’re arguing for opportunity cost which is an entirely different conversation). It’s definitely bad design, and it doesn’t feel good as an effect, but it doesn’t really make the item significantly worse if the initial effect is potent enough, which in transmitter it arguably is.

This is further reinforced with transmitter because it basically has the effect of a red (if not a bit better than a dios)

[marble osprey]

Opportunity cost is definitely a part of the conversation about how good an item is tho

[peak jacinth]

yea but it’s not really the same conversation as whether initially transmitter is good or not

also it’s not an amazing argument because it’s not common with greens and reds where you get to choose between two items of the same calibre

like I could say that bands are always bad because I’m playing commando and AtG is gonna be better, but that’s not a very genuine scenario

[marble osprey]

I'm not saying they're bad, just not above stuff like atgs, which was the original conversation
I think saying bands are worse than atgs on commando is fair, yeah?

[lavish jacinth]

I think only one person was arguing that it's better than bands or atg

[marble osprey]

Yeah and that's the person I responded to

[peak jacinth]

oh I see, to me it seemed like you were saying that transmitter just wasnt very good, but that’s on me.

also that wasn’t really my point with the comment about bands and mando

[marble osprey]

No it's definitely good I was just saying it was being overrated a bit

Like I'm arguing for A tier instead of S, not F or D tier

[peak jacinth]

yea that makes more sense

[lavish jacinth]

that's fair

[quasi crystal]

old stealth kit is better but still in such a weird place of rewarding you for taking damage

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's a defensive item, that's kinda the point

[hard crane]

does cautious slug and other regen effects make shield regen faster? like if you have transcendence or silence between two strikes?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[hard crane]

so this line from the logbook entry for transcendence means nothing

[lavish jacinth]

that's... not what it says?

[lavish jacinth]

is that modded?

[hard crane]

ah it might be a mod thing

[lavish jacinth]

probably is

[hard crane]

nvm then

yep, its a modded change. ZetAspects makes Transcendence grant 50% of health regen as shield regen. ty tho

[quasi crystal]

will ror2 be getting an update in the future or is the development finished?

[steady stone]

We're currently going through a roadmap, so expect rewords of False Son, and then the new characters

As far as new content in the future, we don't know

[quasi crystal]

i lowk really want a character with a scythe 🙏

[ruby totem]

I didn't know that if you pause and click "inventory" you can use a scrapper (if it's in front of you) and you can scrap all your items in pause and it does them at the same time lol

Is this general knowledge???

[lavish jacinth]

I think that's a new thing

[ruby totem]

I haven't tested if you don't lose anything if you do it like that but as far as I have seen it works perfectly, i scrapped two and a at the same time at it gave me 3 green scrap

[quasi crystal]

I'm pretty sure you can meditate as seeker with this exploit

[ruby totem]

That would be absurd, I have to try it lol

[weak crow]

i mean alien head ain't too bad

but aegis...

[dusky raven]

aegis??

also bad tho

[steep mulch]

Shit I just realized wrong channel lmao

[weak crow]

im tripping istg

i mean mask

[small fog]

quite a lengthy question but I need advice on how to keep my runs consistent. ive recently started playing - only about 50 hours in - and I often struggle during the lunar pillars section during monsoon/eclipse runs. stage 5 seems to go mediocre at worst and then pillars hit like a brick wall, I had an acrid run that seemed to be going swimmingly until I got to pillars. I got hit with 3 pillars of soul and I could barely progress due to how little damage I was doing to the chimeras. I cant tell if im picking up too little items, if im taking too long on stages etc. any tips/advice is more than welcome

[quasi crystal]

Firstly, make sure to loot the entire stage before leaving items help much more than time does

Second you can actually just completely skip pillars! Hold on I'll get a video

https://youtu.be/Pn7B4E5yfps the ones that use and have been patched out without mods sadly but the others work still

[weak crow]

In addition to what's mentioned above, scrappers and printers are a good way to keep your runs consistent as they let you control your builds to some extent, speaking of which you should figure out what items to prioritise on certain survivors and possible item synergies with each other. Efficient looting on maps will come naturally with experience.

Sometimes it's also just plain bad luck, 3 soul pillars is tough, and sometimes you just won't get any good items or printers, or find any scrappers at all. Sometimes there's just going to be less loot than usual,

[quasi crystal]

Yeah wanted to mention printers but felt like giving just very broad advice

[weak crow]

If you're struggling with the late game it could be because you're not getting enough items for the time you spend on a stage (correct me if I'm wrong im just guessing) and the enemies are just too hard to deal with

There isn't much else to say except to keep trying and not give up 👍

[quasi crystal]

Are you doing monsoon for the skins or just because it's the hardest difficulty?

[analog brook]

I don't know if it's in the video that chefnation linked, but acrid has an itemless pillar skip! If you look it up on yt you'll get cabbages video of him doing it three times in a row, it's not as bad as it seems.
This is just some general combat advice that can apply to people at 80% of the skill level, it's good to keep in mind
("best friend" in the image was reffering to full looting, as chefnation stated)
Goodluck!

[quasi crystal]

The 2 hoof version is there but I'm hoping they will have more than 2 hooves in their runs because speed is very good on everyone

[small fog]

the skins, I usually just go straight to e1 when I get the hang of a character, I know some of the known pillar skips and I do use them when I can

I guess my main problem is item consistency and not spending time finding scrappers, Im also often to lazy to roll pots for characters such as artificer or loader even though bands are extremely helpful on said characters

[small fog]

I try to average an item a minute though sometimes im lacking

im guessing consistency will come with time, thank you guys so much for the advice, it is really helpful

[fair rock]

Important to note, in singleplayer, since there's less credits to spawn things, it's likely that you can go through several stages (or an entire run) without finding a scrapper

The game does not guarantee scrapper spots -- if you don't find one after running through the stage once or twice, it most likely did not spawn

[daring cloak]

There is that one spot on verdant falls though where there will always be either a big chest or a scrapper

Scrappers also tend to blend in with certain environments so its always worth to closely inspect areas that have similar colors

[ruby totem]

You can absolutely do that with the meditation

Honestly, I don't want them patching this lol (maybe for seekers meditate but not for scrappers)

[daring cloak]

LMAO THATS SO FUNNY

I knew there were some things you could do "in between frames" with inventory pause like changing and using equipments but I did not think the seeker minigame worked like that too

[ruby totem]

Also the scraper doesn't work if you scrap different tiers

[ruby totem]

I need someone to test this in PC with mods (I play on switch so testing is tedious) because I think it works with less than 3 items but I could be wrong

Edit; apparently I was wrong and while you can scrap multiple items the scraper would only get you 1 scrap 😔

[ruby totem]

Weird question, is there a way to cheese the captain umbra microbot so I can fire my orbitals without him deleting them?

[full apex]

Damn seeker meditate in frozen time means that with lux you could probably be even closer to literally invincible

[stable locust]

WHY DOES MY GAME CRASH,MY FRIEND WASTED HIS BEER MONEY AND NOW HE IS CRYING HIS EYES OUT,PLS FIX!!

im jk but seriously its broken

[full apex]

#ror2-tech-support might be able to help!

[quasi crystal]

why is the chest 675?

[minor jungle]

Some mod changed price I guess

I had the same situation when rejoined 4 stage with propersave mod

[weak crow]

is there any reason why captain's mask is in the pattern that it is?

[latent oyster]

Looks cool

[weak crow]

true true

[quasi crystal]

ok thatd be it ty

[weak ice]

Is there still a chance to ask about some Steam Deck fix or improvements? I'd like to know where to ask or if the Devs ever read this server

[dusky raven]

There is the various feedback and bug report channels that we know the devs read

[full berry]

Does spinel tonic apply a permanent debuff?

[analog brook]

Yes

Since the affliction is an item it means it can never go away

[thorny steeple]

what's the best engineer loadout for eclipse?
and is it worth taking strides of heresy on him?

what lunars are good on him for eclipse?

[hoary sedge]

all alternates except for turrets, general consensus is that the stationary turrets are better but I like mobile if you plan on taking visions (which i do a lot bc his m1 is awful)

[ionic igloo]

Can you fight False Son on Eclipse, and does the run end?

[marble osprey]

I believe you can fight him but it doesn't end the run

[ionic igloo]

ty ty

[woeful hemlock]

M1 does exactly the same damage with the exact same proc coefficient.

For mobile turrets and stationary

[peak jacinth]

what does this even mean? The turrets don’t have the same damage or proc coefficient

[woeful hemlock]

But per second it does, check the wiki. The devs made it perfectly balanced

[peak jacinth]

oh thats what you meant

[lavish jacinth]

Stationary turrets are still generally considered better even though they have about the same dps and procs per second

[woeful hemlock]

Ye, the only major benefit is that mobile turrets aren't effected by the reload anim bug

[primal plume]

can u do moment whole on eclipse or is it disabled?

[ionic igloo]

disabled

Without mods, you can only end Eclipse by killing Mithrix or killing Voidling. The second one is only by petting the frog after killing Mithrix anyway

the super purple portal to reach Voidling without Mithrix in a run won't spawn either

[primal plume]

damn

[quick zephyr]

Ok, so I want to know everyone’s take on gameplay: is it more worth while to rush each stage and move on before the timer increases w/o collecting all the chests & items on each round, or does it make more sense to spend more time on each stage to gather all the items you can before moving on?

I always aim for the 2nd way and try to get as many items as possible, but often times when I play with others they want to rush before the difficulty goes up. And now I’m wondering if I have it the wrong way in my head?

Or is it ultimately a personal preference thing?

[marble osprey]

Always worth it to get all the items. Doing it quickly is preferable obviously but collecting all the items is much better

[latent oyster]

Always loot as much as you can, it's simultaneously more fun and efficient as long as you don't spend an egregious amount of time

[marble osprey]

Also, the difficulty is not based just on time, it's based on time and the stage count. The difficulty increases by 15% each stage
So no matter how fast you get through the stage, the difficulty will still increase as you go on to the next one

[ionic igloo]

Full loot but also be fast, you obviously don’t want to spend 30 mins on stage 1 if you can help it, but don’t skip half the items either

[exotic geode]

How do i get the false sun bc i beat the boss with seeker and it didn't give me nothing

[latent oyster]

You need to have the Halcyon Seed ( ) which you get by beating the gold golem boss in the gold portal

And then beat him

[lavish jacinth]

And don't kill him too quickly, make sure aurelionite actually spawns

[lavish jacinth]

If it helps, a good rule of thumb is to loot everything and try to get at least one item per minute

Managing the timer is about efficiency, not just speed- you basically wanna do a 100% speedrun of each stage

[quasi crystal]

and printers do not lend well to a speedrun

[quick zephyr]

Thanks guys!

[marble osprey]

Personally I'd even emphasize looting order over time
Things like leaving tri-shops for last in case you get card, leaving bad items on the ground rather than picking them up immediately in case of recycler, etc

[lavish jacinth]

Alright yeah, the speedrun analogy was admittedly not great lol

I was thinking of it in terms of "do everything you can on the stage", including printers and recycling and such

[ionic igloo]

If that was a real situation, running across the aphelian sanctuary to get some scrap and go back to the crit printer will pay off massively later anyway

[kind slate]

Question about something that's been happening in my games lately: Is there a specific item or song that has a digital metronome sound going off every ten-ish seconds? I keep hearing it in my runs and I don't know the source.

[quasi crystal]

Do you mean 3 beeps?

[lavish jacinth]

Probably chronic expansion

It beeps when your combo is about to run out

[kind slate]

THANK YOU! It was annoying the crap out of me!

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, there's been a ton of feedback about it being annoying lol. It'll probably get changed eventually

[ionic igloo]

until then, just mod it out

[daring cloak]

Tbh it probably wouldnt be nearly as bad if it wasnt just the same exact pitch on all beeps

[weak crow]

it's like that one smoke alarm that keeps going off for no reason

[ionic igloo]

do engi turrets get the scrapped Bead boost

[marble osprey]

Neither wiki mentions anything about it, but it's tracked through an invisible item i believe so they might? If nobody else has an answer I'll test it later

[lavish jacinth]

If it's an invisible item then it should work but yeah, would have to test

[full apex]

like prayer beads?. i dont think that uses an item, its a field in the inventory but so is infusion health, and that isnt shared

[quasi crystal]

How does debuff stacking work in coop?
Also are you able to get void variants of items you haven't unlocked?

[slim spoke]

debuff stack as normal, which means you can theoretically call your mates to copy your loadout and have 4x max buildup rate
as for void items, having smth unlocked or not doesnt affect them, you can easily check it out with artifact of command (red equivalents tend to happen rather commonly compared to normal reds, still regarded as rares tho)

[lavish jacinth]

DoT stacks are tracked individually, so like if two people are stacking bleed but one person has a watch and the other doesn't, then only that person's stacks will get a damage bonus

[analog brook]

@celest kayak this might anwser the question you had about ignite and fire dots lol, if you're still seeking an anwser

[celest kayak]

ooh it does actually, i thought everything was added to a pool based on the status. ty @lavish jacinth! very helpful

[opal zealot]

how do I avoid the wandering vagrants instant kill thing

[lavish jacinth]

just get behind cover, it's based on line of sight

[ruby coral]

Are there any plans to implement cross play to ror2?

[lavish jacinth]

none that we know of

[quaint osprey]

Hey, I'm new to risk of rain and wanted to know how does the clipboard lobby works, do I need to copy a link or something? can someone please help me I'm supposed to play with my friend in half an hour

[lavish jacinth]

you shouldn't need to use it, you can just send an invite directly through your friends list. If you're both on steam make sure you both have crossplay turned off first though

(but if you do end up needing to use the clipboard lobby for whatever reason, iirc it'll just put a lobby code into your clipboard, send that to your friend and have them paste it into the game. I forget exactly where all the buttons are and stuff but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out)

[limpid isle]

I'm confused by the green and gold portal

What does the gold portal do in the gilded coast? I went through the GREEN portal and got sent to the reformed altar, and now I charge the teleporter and see another green portal. What happens if I use it? And what does the teleporter do

[lavish jacinth]

green portals take you to the path of the colossus, which is the set of stages leading to the new final boss in SotS. You'll eventually reach it if you keep taking green portals, but if you just leave through a normal teleporter you'll just go back to normal stages

[high forum]

the gold portal inside gilded coast just takes you to the next level

[marble osprey]

Gold portal takes you either into gilded coast, or leaves gilded coast (into a normal, non-colossus stage)

Green portal always takes you to the path of Colossus stage (reformed altar if you're going to stage 2, treetop canopy if you're going to stage 3, and prime meridian if you're going to stage 4. If you're going to stage 1 or 5, green portals just will not spawn, instead spawning a gold portal

[limpid isle]

Thanks guys

[small fog]

would it be balanced if freeze worked on teleporter bosses? along with the queen beetles and such that appear more and more often when looping

its just strange that it works on mithrix but not something like the stone titans and such

[slim spoke]

tbf status effect is afflicted on mithrix because he is THE special individual

[small fog]

but an oversized beetle withstands it

[slim spoke]

idk man
seems very preferencial to me

also i dont think tele bosses would need status effects anyway
shits like wyrms would break asf no doubt

[lavish jacinth]

it's always been kinda arbitrary which enemies can be frozen

some flying enemies are immune to it too, but not all of them

[slim spoke]

seeing flying ice statues has never stopped being wierd

[small fog]

I love freezing blind pests and watching them fall

maybe just the baseline teleporter bosses should get affected imo, vagrant, beetle, titan maybe even imp

I understand magna worms and such

[lavish jacinth]

honestly if mithrix is allowed to be frozen then you might as well make everything freezable

[small fog]

thats what I wish for though it would probably break a lot of stuff such as the aforementioned magma worms

[lavish jacinth]

unless there's a reason it can't be freezable like with worms, yeah

[small fog]

should I make this a feedback suggestion or nah, is it too niche of a change to hope for

[lavish jacinth]

people's gut reaction is gonna be that it's overpowered I bet

[small fog]

yeah probably, with railgunners alt special having an execute itd make her even more overpowered

[lavish jacinth]

but you can if you want ig, it wouldn't be the worst idea ever suggested lmao (tho you're also definitely not the first person to think of it)

[small fog]

yeah I might just make a suggestion for the usual beginning stage bosses

no need for magma worms and such

[lavish jacinth]

I've always kinda felt that there should just be middle ground, like if an enemy isn't freezable then it just inflicts heavy slow instead (the same thing glacial elites and runalds inflict)

because it sucks that freezing abilities just don't do anything on bosses, but it's also kinda reasonable that you can't execute them that easily

[small fog]

yeah thatd also work well, its just always been strange that freeze works in some places and not others

[lavish jacinth]

at the very least it'd be nice if it were consistent, yeah

[foggy hornet]

True, also you can just remove the execute but keep the stun on boss enemies

[weak crow]

worms not being able to be frozen would make sense tho

like they're literally made of fire

and overloading worms could just be built different

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, you can freeze wisps

[weak crow]

wisp fire is like

weak fire

worm fire is like

big fire

[small fog]

yeah exactly

I only think freeze should be applicable to the early stage bosses due to them often becoming enemies outside of the teleporter segment of a stage

[weak crow]

true

[quasi crystal]

The issue with worms is that they never stop moving

[rose needle]

does the equipment drone revive you with seed of life?

[quasi crystal]

Do the impossible see the invisible
They don't unless they're in combat and you die, it's pretty buggy. Also if they did they'll use it on themselves

[lapis parrot]

hey guys, me and my friend have currently all the monsoon skins except for rex's and captain's. As we literally almost never use these characters in our runs, we would like to know the best items for rex and captain to get the most out of the two characters

[peak holly]

For captain, mainly proc items. For Rex, razor wire, repulsion armour plate are good items to synergise with his self damage

Also use Rex alt secondary

[analog brook]

Captain is one of if not the best proc characters, atgs, ukelele, bleed, polylute , plasma shrimp etc
Rex is weird because he doesn't have anything specifically fit for him other then razrowire, tougher times and RAP, he also doesn't do good with bleed whatsoever due to his primary thing extremely low in proc coefficient

Basically what tree said, yea LOL

[lapis parrot]

alright nice thank you

[lapis parrot]

damn i still need to unlock it

[lapis parrot]

lol thanks anyway man dw

[dry glen]

if im on stage 2 and just let the lvl increase, will clay dunestriders eventualy start spawning? (on the desert map with the tar waterfall thingy)

[clever solstice]

I've got a dumb question that I think I know the answer to but I just wanna be safe on it, what exactly does armor do? does the amount you have negate that amount of damage you take?

[halcyon thistle]

yes

[clever solstice]

ah okay, thank you

[weak crow]

it's not like a flat reduction, it sort of stacks with diminishing returns, where 100 armour iirc is 50% reduction and 200 is 75%

[hoary sedge]

nah the "alt" secondary is technically the one you start with bc rex's skills are really weird, the one you have to unlock is kinda just worse outside of eclipse

[peak jacinth]

it’s cuz they organized them in columns of plant skill and robot skill, pretty cool imo

[hoary sedge]

yeah it's cool and I get why it just makes them confusing to talk about

[foggy hornet]

Yes but no

It's bugged #1320890464936923289 message

[coral nacelle]

I got the dlc last night and I've managed to nap chef how do I aquire the false son? And can I loop before fighting bro

[latent oyster]

You beat aurelionite and then go through the green portal that appears after beating her and then fight false son and beat him to unlock him. And yes you can loop.

[foggy hornet]

You better loop

[coral nacelle]

I'm build dif I don't need too 🦾🦾 probably should though to get this dude

[foggy hornet]

You better loop bro

[lethal cairn]

umm i completed the artifact room but no portal has appeared

[high wasp]

I'm a fairly new player, how do I play Acrid most effectively? I love playing as Acrid but I don't know if I'm doing it right

[foggy hornet]

Hit and run

jump and spit on shit, spread your plague (r) and run away let procs and poison kill shit

Do not facetank it is a good way to die

Get visions of heresy too

[high wasp]

alright, thank you

[balmy verge]

is the seekers of the storm dlc worth buying?

[foggy hornet]

Yes absolutely

[celest pulsar]

Does anyone know a mod that makes the in game interactions faster?

[ruby totem]

Meele acrid > all

[marble osprey]

The exact formula for the damage reduction from armor is 100/(100+armor), so yeah 100 armor ends up at 100/200, or 50%, 200 is 100/300, or 67%, 300 armor would be 75%, etc
However things that just say reduce damage rather than armor do just directly negate it, so like repulsion armor plates are just -5 flat from any damage, and warped echo is always a 35% damage reduction

[clever solstice]

My latest run, I ended up with about 1331 armor

I was unkillable, but then i crashed

[full apex]

1 armor behaves like a 1 % effective health increase. i find thats an easier way to keep track

100 armor is 100% eff hp up, since with a 50% reduction it takes 200% as much damage to kill compared to normal.

also kinda better demos that gaining armor linearly is consistently good, despite the damage reduction as a % appearing to diminish

[lapis parrot]

ok sooo

we one shot false son (we did the false son route)

[marble osprey]

Finally got around to testing it and no, they do not

They do gain tonic afflictions tho so watch out for that if you like tonic builds

[fallow tusk]

Bro on the fent cart fr

[hoary sedge]

y'know if they get tonic afflictions I wonder if they also technically other tierless items like consumed elixirs or broken watches or if afflictions are a hardcoded exception bc they actually do something

[ruby totem]

Captain is the GOAT

[lavish jacinth]

they copy your entire inventory except for things that specifically have the TurretBlacklist tag, which I don't think consumed items have. So yeah, probably

[ancient brook]

does seed of life work prevent naturopath?

[lavish jacinth]

not 100% sure but I don't think so, assuming you mean the revive and not the healing orbs

[ancient brook]

i didnt know there were healing orbs

[lavish jacinth]

if you use it after it's already been consumed it'll drop a thing on the ground that spits out some healing orbs, yeah

"healing" refers to anything that would create a green number over your head, so health regen or gaining health from a level up or whatever doesn't fail the challenge. Not sure if refilling your health from a revive counts though

[ancient brook]

i heard dio's doesn't count so i'll just take it

[weak crow]

idk how naturopath works i sorta got it accidentally quite early on

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's pretty simple, just beat the 3rd teleporter without receiving any form of healing besides regen

[dry glen]

idk why but i cant use lunar coins when im playing with friends atm
i got some client side mods on, could that be causing problems?

[lavish jacinth]

maybe, turn off your mods and see if that fixes it

[quasi crystal]

The funny thing is since acrids m1 and bite are Regen they aren't affected by naturopath

[halcyon thistle]

what is the best item for heretic

[lavish jacinth]

that's a pretty broad question lol
Almost everything is good on her though

total damage procs and multipliers are always a good go-to

ig stay away from since it makes her negative health regen even worse, unless you have which disables regen entirely

[halcyon thistle]

alr thanks

[opal zealot]

are lysate cells completely useless on captain?

[daring cloak]

No

Lysate cells add extra charges to your primary beacon

So if youre running a resupply or hacking beacon you should always put it as the first beacon in the ability list so you can use multiple of them without wasting the second beacon slot

Do note that you can only have two beacons out at the same time

[opal zealot]

I'm guessing it doesn't work on the stage you pick them up on

because I don't have extra charges

[daring cloak]

If you call down a third beacon the oldest beacon will vanish

[daring cloak]

Yup its on the next stage

[pine inlet]

the reminder

[high forum]

the reminder

[pine inlet]

still bugged, awesome

[high forum]

thank you

[neon abyss]

Engineer Visions of Heresy. Should I be cooked alive for preferring walky turrets over sit turrets?

[pine inlet]

it does good

[lavish jacinth]

They're both fine

[foggy hornet]

They are better

[lavish jacinth]

If anything mobile turrets benefit more from visions, the delayed damage is less of an issue since they can move

Visions also fixes the shuriken bug that the laser normally has so that's handy

[neon abyss]

Great. Good to know that I will not become a fine meal for some pros.

[lavish jacinth]

Protip, don't worry abou what "pros" think with this game lol

Most people don't care what you use, and anyone who tries to argue that you have to play the meta probably has a massive skill issue themselves

So just play whatever's fun

[neon abyss]

I suppose that makes sense.. Considering just finished an Artificer Eclipse climb with alt primary because I suck at aiming fireballs lol.

[daring cloak]

Anyone here got any idea if there could be more interactables that you can spam activate with the weird ass inventory pause? Any interactable that has a direct cooldown between activations is most likely not gonna work and things like resupply would work if it weren't for the limited uses to give some basic criteria

With enough spamming this essentially nukes everything on the stage within seconds so knowing of more applications than the tp would be pretty huge

[pine inlet]

multiple of those revive shrines maybe?

[daring cloak]

Maybe though I doubt it since that shrine also gets expended after you use it

In general it seems only interactables work that dont lose their interactability either permanently or temporarily but still keep those interact outlines in grey

So printers dont work whereas scrappers do work because scrappers are always interactable, just with their interaction denied while its scrapping

[lavish jacinth]

Off the top of my head I can't think of anything else that's both unlimited and has no cooldown. Changing the shapes on the artifact teleporter thing maybe, but that wouldn't be too practical for nuking the map

[daring cloak]

The shapes may also function like the primordial tp states

[inner viper]

hitboxes

[daring cloak]

When I tried to shift the tp like that it would simply ignore the spamming and just act as if I pressed once

[lavish jacinth]

Hmm

[inner viper]

try this with squids

[daring cloak]

And being able to wreak this much havoc on more than just the beginning of tp would be very powerful

[lavish jacinth]

Ally limit moment

[daring cloak]

Though it is funny that fireworks are basically war bonds 2 with this strat

[inner viper]

Polyp's buffed yet again love to see it

[quasi crystal]

NEVER use walking turrets!!!

[inner viper]

their ok

the shorter range I tend to not like

[lofty dagger]

does ror2 currently have ps5 crossplay

iwht pc

with*

[daring cloak]

There is no crossplay in ror2

Only between steam and epic games store which are both pc

[lofty dagger]

wharttt

whyyyy

[daring cloak]

Ok so a couple reasons

Firstly: it aint worth it to rewrite so much of the game to even have the chance of crossplay
Secondly: it would NOT function well. Even the pc to pc crossplay that does exist is a broken mess

[lofty dagger]

tru tru

[full apex]

i really dont notice this being an issue often, since they can close the distance. even flying enemies its often fine

i notice the stationary flaw of getting deleted by every big melee and/or pool enemy much more, like mobile turrets evading elder lems and mushrums is great

[full apex]

dunno what youve tried, but it would be pretty funny if the healy pod equipment was spammable lol

caffeinator or smth i forgor since i never use it

[lavish jacinth]

caffienator does have a cooldown and limited uses tho

[quasi crystal]

mobile is nicer because you can set and forget and they rarely die

just replace them after getting a bunch of items or before tp

[full apex]

wait caffeinator has limited uses lol

i really never use it

[quasi crystal]

yeah it has 12 sodas

[full apex]

i know you cant super spam it normally but idk how the inventory memery interacts with stuff, i havent messed with it yet

[quasi crystal]

it also has a small delay between buying drinks which is dumb just let me spam squids

[inner viper]

probably Hopoo trying to keep the Caffinator/Polyp combo from being too crazy

[quasi crystal]

yeah we all know squid polyps are just so closee to beiung gamebreaking

[full apex]

me when i spam out 19 squids and instantly hit ally limit

[quasi crystal]

after testing, it appears voided items of unlockable items are available even if you dont have the uncorrupted item unlocked; secret strategy for no unlock runs!!

[full apex]

oh neat, makes sense to me tbh but kinda cool!

since they are completely separate items, but it would make sense for them to be linked too

[quasi crystal]

i think the only unlockable dlc item is the life seed

[full apex]

i think so yea

[quasi crystal]

but yeah iw as getting safer spaces, pluris, lystaes, benthics, encrusted keys on a fresh profile i unlocked medkit during ym testing

[acoustic acorn]

I hate quid pullyp
It ended two of my runs i dont trust them anymore, worst item in the game, bison steak soloes

[inner viper]

how?

[full apex]

voidtouched squids at sotv launch were hilarious

[analog brook]

Can they not get void touched anymore????

I got them voidtouched like 8ish months ago or smth, unless that was a change that didn't get to console at the time

[full apex]

i cant rember, maybe im instinctively more careful now but i cant rember the last time ive seen it happen

so either they cant, or im just real careful with infestors now lol

i know they made like turrets immune, that was also extremely funny

[inner viper]

idk if they can't
but with the buff to their knock-back it's probably not gonna happen

[full apex]

the issue is that their attack is an orb, so its homing and undodgeable, even through walls, and made collapse hell

[lavish jacinth]

They can get voidtouched but they're pretty good at avoiding it now that they have really strong knockback

[full apex]

that makes sense

[lavish jacinth]

the only time it really happens is if they get ganked by several of them at once or if they're distracted by another enemy

their stats also got tweaked so that voidtouched polyps are less of a death sentence, they've got higher skill damage but lower base damage so collapse does about as much damage as their normal shots, and they only have a 0.1 proc coeff now

plus you can surf their knockback to get away from them

[quasi crystal]

Voidtouched collapse is what %? I know it's definitely more than 10

[lavish jacinth]

400% base damage, 100% proc chance. They basically have 10 needleticks

[quasi crystal]

Oh is it 100% noted

[full apex]

100% base, since proc coeff still applies

[quasi crystal]

You gotta wonder what they were planning with EA enemies having low base damage but high % attacks and having proc coefficients

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the old enemies were really inconsistent with base damage lol

stone titans having 40 for no reason at all

[quasi crystal]

Like jellyfish have low attack and a 2000% m2

[lavish jacinth]

no idea why they didn't just make everything 10(+2) and tweak the skill damage accordingly, except for stuff like scavs that have an actual reason to have lower base damage

[quasi crystal]

Well scavs are later in the games life, that's after evolution and vields where base damage and proc coefficients would matter

[full apex]

tbf they could have just done that for everything, including survivors

but having stat diversity is a bit more interesting and affects how some items interact. though items on enemies wasnt relevant at launch, it is nowadays (which is the idea behind the entire conversation in a way)

[quasi crystal]

I guess elites would interact with enemy base damage

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I was gonna say

[quasi crystal]

Surely elites existed day one

[lavish jacinth]

old burn damage always did 200% base

[full apex]

so having something like higher base damage making items more impactful, or only some enemies being able to proc bands, is kind of interesting.

also yea old burn was flat damage, now its just also 50% total tho