ror2-game-questions

[steady stone]

I would assume scavs aren't supposed to proc it on other scavs

probably file a report later

[lavish jacinth]

Aegis:

your pc has a skill issue ig

and boomerang is good lol

[quasi crystal]

Boomerang is not weak and it's pretty good

[lavish jacinth]

the stats on it are wrong, it does 120% for the first hit on each enemy and then rapidly ticks for 30%

and it's a large aoe/pierce with a 1.0 proc coeff on the strong hit

[quasi crystal]

Are you playing command or looping a billion times

Ah

I'm sure a mod exists or can be done

[glacial knoll]

war bonds just procs when any scav stands up

[steady stone]

Yeah, but if a scav has war bonds it shouldnt proc on other scavs, no?

That was the original confusion, was the fact I didnt have war bonds

[glacial knoll]

not because the scav has war bonds

or i guess both if either the player or the scav has it

i guess it should be blacklisted from enemies

[leaden field]

What are you listening to bro

[proper mango]

Yesterday I was playing ror2 with my friend with a couple of mods and all my white items turned into cautious slugs, is that normal? 😭

maybe i just click on every shrine i see

yeah i think so

oh okay thank you

so its useless?

[lavish jacinth]

it's just for the memes lol

[proper mango]

oh alright

[lavish jacinth]

if you're really lucky it might decide to stack something good, but it's just random

[proper mango]

oh so i just got really unlucky with getting cautious slugs

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it could've been worse, but yeah

[glacial knoll]

Armor reduction buffs DoTs right?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[gritty moon]

hi guys, i have a question. when we try to play with my friend, one of us is always lagging to the point that it’s unplayable, and we don’t know what to do (our internet is fine).

[lavish jacinth]

1. How far away do you live from each other?
2. If you're on steam, do you have crossplay enabled?

[gritty moon]

1.yea, we live far away from each other
2.idk, should it be enabled?

[lavish jacinth]

well, dang
Crossplay should be disabled for both of you, it's a glitchy mess and causes a lot of issues. You can check it on the first page of settings

but unfortunately if you're far away then that might be the issue, in which case there's not a whole lot you can do since ror2's multiplayer is peer2peer

[gritty moon]

damn, that’s sad. ok, thank you for the help.

[lavish jacinth]

np

[rapid current]

does mods lower your fps

[lavish jacinth]

depends on the mod

but in general yeah, there'll be some impact on performance

[rapid current]

is there a way to see ur fps

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think ror2 has one built in but you can enable an fps counter in steam settings

[fresh umbra]

How many of the “debuff” icons that chef can apply to enemies count toward death mark?

(Without items that let him deal more debuffs)

[silk copper]

The crossplatform is currently on working or is not viable?, is possible that we have crossplay on the future?

[daring cloak]

The only crossplay that currently exists is between steam and the epic games store (both pc) and crossplay for console is very unlikely to ever happen

[silk copper]

Why?

[daring cloak]

Because it would be very time consuming, hard and costly to implement which wouldnt be worth it

[silk copper]

I mean, I've played smaller games with cross-platform

[full apex]

the engine just isnt built with it in mind

there are also tons and tons of small and big games without crossplay between consoles

[lavish jacinth]

+the initial dev team was only like 3 people, and the console ports were handled by a separate team that made a complete mess of things

[daring cloak]

old console versions my beloved

[lavish jacinth]

it's only been in the last year or so that the console ports have actually been in a state where crossplay would even be remotely plausible

[daring cloak]

And there are still some gameplay differences between the versions

Like the fucking trees on distant roost dont have proper collision for specifically the switch version ever since the sotv update

[fresh umbra]

Why do people hate chef? I think he’s fun from my first impressions

[daring cloak]

Chef struggles with flying enemies and doesnt work well with a lot of items

[rapid current]

is there a way to disable teleporter

particles

[daring cloak]

Why would you ever want that

[supple snow]

Now... I have a question, mainly bc im not in loop with the server, i have asked this b4 when hopoo still owned the game. after the whole roadmap for seekers of storm is done, are things prior to the current dlc going to be fixed, like the voidling bossfight, engie turrets sprinting so they can use wungus, and my favorite, multi scrap rocket being able to synergize with pocket icbm(ik they were grenades when they first came out, but they're rockets, they have been, but are still coded as grenades)

[daring cloak]

Gearbox does tackle some issues of the base game and sotv like softlocking in mithrix if he steals too many safer spaces or tesla coil in vields

But I doubt theyll change things to the degree youre suggesting

Also mul-t's scrap launcher rockets dont work like the other rockets

Those rockets jet out into the air and home in on enemies while the scrap launcher is just a regular projectile

They are labeled as rockets but dont work like all the other actual rockets

[short bolt]

WETUS

I need help

[daring cloak]

That is... one way to call me

[short bolt]

I just defeated the false son

What do I do go through the green portal or reborn

[daring cloak]

Have you rebirthed before?

[short bolt]

Never

[daring cloak]

Then do that first

[short bolt]

Ok

That area is so cool looking too

[velvet niche]

I heard the seekers of storm dlc was not worth getting when it first came out due to bugs, but the first revamp phase is out. Should I buy this DLC now or wait for more patches?

[wide parrot]

It's good now. If you got the cash and don't mind the survivors being mid at best and chef at worst, then buy it

[velvet niche]

So, I heard the biggest issue was actuallt buying the dlc gave you more bugs. This isn't a problem anymore?

[wide parrot]

That wasn't ever a problem iirc

all the bugs came with the update alonside the dlc, nothing really in it

[velvet niche]

Oh ok I see

[wide parrot]

the ones in the dlc are fixed

[velvet niche]

Thanks appreciate your time bro

[stable musk]

So i just got risk of rain 2 around 3 days ago any tips to get more survivors?

so far what i like most is trying out new kits

[steady stone]

I'd recommend just trying to beat the game, you'll probably passively get unlocks from playing and exploring for at LEAST 50 hours

Then you can go to the logbook for exact requirements, and hunt the specifics

Character unlocks are a good goal for the first 50 i mean, but like the items don't need hunted for

[stable musk]

oh alright thanks

[regal plank]

I’ve killed false son twice once with the seed in the my inventory and still haven’t unlocked am I doing something wrong 🥲

[queen otter]

did u wait until aurelionite spawns?

[quasi crystal]

Yeah aure needs to spawn to unlock him when you beat him

[leaden onyx]

any acrid mains here?

just tryna confirm that bile is indeed the objectively better passive in every situation

[lavish jacinth]

blight is definitely the funnier passive because it pisses off all the people who think poison is the only viable option and are way too angry about people using blight

[leaden onyx]

blight*

[lavish jacinth]

but objectively better... not really, no

[leaden onyx]

okay well im going to go back to being blissfully ignorant because not being able to kill with my poison hurts

[quasi crystal]

So blight= rage bait

[lavish jacinth]

blight and poison have legitimately caused more drama in the ror2 community than anything else

[quasi crystal]

I could believe that but I'm sure ion vs flame might be a contender for that honor too

[lavish jacinth]

nah, not even close

like, there was a whole incident surrounding blight and poison

not gonna get into it because idgaf about drama but tl;dr a youtuber made a video defending blight, another much bigger youtuber threw a massive tantrum over it, and it devolved into a huge shitshow

[leaden onyx]

. . .

man I just wanted the jellyfish to die without having to kill confirm 😭

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, you can just get any other source of damage

bleed, gasoline, drones, guillotine for elites, or just hit them one extra time

[leaden onyx]

true, I am just jokes aside a blight fan though

when I first tried acrid I was saying to myself "man I wish I could just stack the posion and kill with it 😔"

[lavish jacinth]

nah, blight is cool, I also like it more even if it is technically "worse"

I do wish they'd give it some extra mechanic besides just being flat damage tho

[cursive compass]

Poison is significantly better in 95% of situations

[quasi crystal]

Blight could give a damage vulnerability like rorrs alt poison

[cursive compass]

that'd be really cool, it'd promote aggression and melee too

Alas, we simply have ror2 blight

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that'd be good
like 5-10% more damage taken per stack or something

[nocturne apex]

Yeah I wish it was the case

[rapid current]

can u crossplay with console

[nocturne apex]

No

[cursive compass]

he's the same as always

I believe in you, get that moon man

How do you usually die to him?

[regal plank]

Might killed him too fast I’ll try that today

[solemn lark]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lavish jacinth]

War bonds

and/or looping, he doesn't have adaptive armor so post-loop damage tends to kill him pretty fast

[fair hedge]

https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/joh5Kx2stWvWuLLxT?invite=cr-MSx3RWEsNDcwNDU5OTEs

anyone know what happened here

[lavish jacinth]

was halcyonite listed as your cause of death? It's got a bug where its hitboxes linger even after it's been killed or stunned iirc, so it was probably that

[steady stone]

Specifically the spin likes to stay, I've learned from experience, which it looks like it started before dying

[fair hedge]

Probably that, idk what killed me cause I had a revive

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, if you pause you can see the visual effect of the spin attack, you die right as soon as you touch it

[full apex]

as mentioned, basically yea the hitbox is a little fucked

but it can get anim canceled and doesnt go away

[regal plank]

I KILLED him too fast again 🥲🥲🥲

[quasi crystal]

try literally just not shooting fs until aure spawns lol

[silver depot]

Yall does chef still suck

[regal plank]

I had my fireworks kill hin by accident does he only spawn on 3rd stage

[lavish jacinth]

yeh
character update isn't gonna happen for a while yet

[void fossil]

What’s better for arcid?
Poison or blight?

[lavish jacinth]

generally poison

blight only does base damage, it can be stronger early on and against soft targets, but poison doing %hp damage will always scale better in the long run

[marble osprey]

Depends on what you're trying to do
If you want something that's better in the game, use poison
If you want to annoy people online, use blight

[lavish jacinth]

very true

the best part of blight is how salty people get over you using it

[quasi crystal]

I'm trying to completely finish the game including the entire logbook and completing every single challenge. The last two things I have To get the log book entry for The lunar chimera And the logbook entry for the voidling is there like specific runs with like specific aspects I can run to? Like maximize my chance of getting these log books

I know I could probably get the lunar chimera one by going AFK on the moon with Engineers turrets but you can only kill the voidling once Per run And I've killed him way too many times and I still haven't gotten it

[lavish jacinth]

with voidling you just have to get lucky
literally and figuratively, affects logbook drops so stack as many as you can

[quasi crystal]

In one run I got 15 clovers and I still didn't get it

Or like 10 I don't know

[lavish jacinth]

you can also run swarms to get two voidlings

[lavish jacinth]

unlucky

[quasi crystal]

Swarms and command is the best way to get it on looping

[lavish jacinth]

there really isn't any other strat besides that, yeah

[quasi crystal]

I know I could like maybe do artifact of kin until I get the lunar chimera to be the one enemy type

But like I'm pretty sure they're not available for that artifact

I don't think kin works yeah

It's just that like I don't want to put like 5 hours of AFK into the lunar map just for the log book to fall off the map

I think lunar enemies hermit crabs and sots enemies are exempt

I really want to get these logbook entries because if I get them I'll 100% the game completely Not just 100% complete the challenges

[peak jacinth]

Hermit crabs aren’t exempt from kin, but they are from dissonance

[quasi crystal]

Oh shit lol wrong artifact

[lavish jacinth]

dissonance does allow lunar chimeras I think, but getting them is still gonna be a pain

[quasi crystal]

I know lunar chimeras can spawn in the similacrim During rare events, but it's nowhere near enough I'm pretty sure

Wait I have an idea

[peak jacinth]

trying to actually get a specific enemy with dissonance and/or kin is surprisingly challenging

[quasi crystal]

If I load into two-player and also have the artifact of swarms on, does that mean four times more enemies will spawn

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's not worth gambling on kin/dissonance

[peak jacinth]

no

it’s just 2x not 2x per player

[lavish jacinth]

well you'd get slightly more spawns due to increased multiplayer scaling

[quasi crystal]

Yeah but there will also be more enemies because they'll be two people

Does multiplayer spawn in more enemies? I thought it did

[lavish jacinth]

nah, difficulty just scales faster

[quasi crystal]

Damn

[lavish jacinth]

which does indirectly result in more enemies, but it could also mean getting more elites or whatever

the director just has more credits to spend

[quasi crystal]

Does an enemy being an elite increase the chance of it dropping the logbook?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[quasi crystal]

Damn

Okay I guess later I'll just do a run where I go AFK on the moon for like 5 hours

It could decrease it if anything lol

[lavish jacinth]

it probably won't take nearly that long with some clovers honestly

[quasi crystal]

What happens if the logbook falls off the map

And can there be more than one logbook for the same creature spawned in?

If you don't have a mod it just despawns

[peak jacinth]

if the players are spread out it’s very likely to cause there to be less spawns around each player

total it’ll be about the same but around each player it can definitely be less

[lavish jacinth]

just farm them in an area with a good amount of floor, like the area with the blood shrines

[quasi crystal]

I meant on elites because I don't think enemies are able to drop multiple items? At least I've never seen that happen

You get the voiding log book by Killing him right

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[quasi crystal]

Like I'm just double-checking

Yeah you get 3 chances

[peak jacinth]

ohhh I thought you were still talking about mp spawns lol

[quasi crystal]

Wait it can spawn each time He teleports away?

I believe? I got mithrix on phase 3 (pizza phase)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[quasi crystal]

Okay okay. Okay okay

Every phase is a separate enemy with the same logbook iirc

[lavish jacinth]

iirc I got voidlings log on phase 2 so yeah, pretty sure each phase can drop it

[quasi crystal]

So yeah swarm plus commanding clovers would be the max chance

Okay I looked it up apparently if I have a hundred 57 leaf clovers it has A 80% chance of spawning

That's not that hard if I give shipment requests to a bunch of lumerians

I didn't even think of devotion

Does devotion swarm give 2 lems per like it does for cores zoea and guards

I could test real fast

[lavish jacinth]

I'm guessing not, because how would that work with the item "ownership" thing

[quasi crystal]

The more teleporters that are active on the moon, the more enemies that spawn right

Or I meant pillars

Mithrix phase 2 spawns enemies forever right or only on level up (zenith design)

[lavish jacinth]

I actually don't know

but trying to farm during the mithrix fight isn't gonna make it any easier

[quasi crystal]

Just tested it it doesn't

I could send the clip of me testing it if you want

[lavish jacinth]

probably?
wouldn't hurt to try it

[quasi crystal]

I think mass spawns the most

[orchid peak]

I am stuck in a crevice in prime meridian, been stuck for like 10 minutes, this is a 2 hour run, stage 19, whole point of run was to get this skin that I'm about to, is there no like debug or console or command I can use to get out??? really fucking annoying if I've wasted 2 hours for nothing

[regal plank]

I GOT HIM

[orchid peak]

got rid of my ghor's tome so idk what's causing it but sometimes late in runs I'll kill some enemies and they'll drop like a million gold on the ground and my game will basically crash so idk what's happening

[cursive compass]

did you have the gold aspect?

[fresh umbra]

Or wake of vultures

[dusky raven]

does Luminous Shot still grant the xp boost when killing monsters with it?

[marble osprey]

According to the wiki it does yeah, hard to really tell tho

[quasi crystal]

Appearantly luminous can apple expose

New triple expose tech

[inner viper]

Fadeshock will love hearing about that one

[quasi crystal]

If it’s possible can someone give me a in depth guide on how void fiend works? Thanks

[quasi crystal]

[lavish jacinth]

He's not actually as complicated as he seems

Over time he gains corruption. Healing removes corruption equal to the % of health stored, and taking damage adds corruption similarly. Getting a crit also adds 2% corruption

In corrupt form you lose corruption over time but the rest still applies. You also gain 100 armor while corrupt

Every void item you have increases your minimum corruption by 2%

The basic strat with him is to avoid healing items that are hard to control like medkit and wungus, he's got a strong built-in heal so you can mostly focus on speed and damage anyway.
Use your special to manage corruption, ideally you hover around 75% so that you can quickly heal or go corrupt when needed

[quasi crystal]

Alright thank you, i can understand it way better now

[cursive compass]

Its good to remember that you are tankier, higher dps and more mobile in corrupt mode, so you should try to maximise your time in it whilst simultaneously saving it for situations you think you'll need it

Its a fun balancing act basically

[lavish jacinth]

you sure about that? 🤔

or am I missing something

[quasi crystal]

that is not an apple

but yeah i just misread the wiki

[lavish jacinth]

correct, it's a clip of risk of rain 2 gameplay

[cursive compass]

Expose transfer only works because you are physically moving the hitbox of the third swing into the enemies

so anything that doesn't move you near an enemy cannot expose transfer

[lavish jacinth]

this isn't about the expose transfer

and even if did the transfer it wouldn't work on luminous

in order for luminous to apply expose it would have to inherit damage types like behemoth does, but it doesn't

[cursive compass]

I don't see how else it would theoretically apply expose, but it couldn't in the first place anyway so it doesn't matter

[lavish jacinth]

it could apply it if it inherited damage types, because exposing is a damage type

that's why behemoth can apply extra stacks of expose

and the expose transfer wouldn't matter since it doesn't actually "transfer" expose to a different attack, it just prevents the sword hitbox from being cancelled by using another ability. The name is a little bit of a misnomer lol

[queen whale]

guys, i got a problem. My artificer`s flight is toggled and i don't like it. I have to tap once for flight to start and tap again for it to stop, but it's easier for me to hold. How do i change it?

[pure dawn]

settings

[lavish jacinth]

there's a setting for it

[queen whale]

i can't find it

[lavish jacinth]

it's on the first page

[pure dawn]

towards the bottom

[lavish jacinth]

it might be under that umbrella settings thing, I can't remember

[pure dawn]

look for artificer hover

[queen whale]

thx

[golden fog]

@lavish jacinth hey remember how I've been trying to fix clothing physics bugging out? Yeah so I figured out what it was. It's a problem with the dynamic bones, but I don't know a permanant fix for it. All I can do is temporarily fix it for the stage I'm on using UnityExplorer.

[pure dawn]

stupid bones haver

[lavish jacinth]

have you made a bug report for it yet? Knowing the specific thing that's broken and what fixes it would be pretty useful info for the devs.

still odd that it seems like an issue only on your end though, I'm still betting that it's something to do with unity not agreeing with your hardware

[golden fog]

Something about the refresh rate being set to 60 making things bug out? Setting it to 30 is what fixed it. But yeah, I probably should fill out a bug report.

If I had the money I'd try to find someone I could commission to make a mod to fix this. Unfortunately I don't have any modding knowledge myself, so I can't go into the files and edit it.

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, you could just go to the modding discord and ask, there's a link to it pinned in #ror2-modding

[golden fog]

Yeah ok, thanks!

[gaunt pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/261174382901198848/1323701611423465646/image.png?ex=677578b1&is=67742731&hm=16ad53168b2ccb8197870e357a6fb9bbcc040e93e3b35498ff93b149bc154837&
does anyone know how to get past this when trying to join a lobby? i found cases online but no one posted a solution

[grim hatch]

does someone know how to fix loading screen freeze on 1.2 pls, its stuck at 55%

[lavish jacinth]

verify game files

[lavish jacinth]

embeds don't work unless you have a role #roles , but I'm guessing it looks like this?

[gaunt pine]

yep, but without the GUI

[gaunt pine]

Is there a fix that doesnt involve epic games? I had to install epic games just to get it working >.>

Never needed that since i got the game

[lavish jacinth]

EGS shouldn't be required

[gaunt pine]

I know, thats why I'm looking for a fix for this that doesnt involve EGS

[lavish jacinth]

try these #ror2-tech-support message

[vale hollow]

I had this problem but it was because I changed "skip intro cinimatic" in the config file to true. That setting in the config causes issues. You either need to get the mod to fix it or turn the intro cinimatic back on.

[mental mountain]

Questions on a seekers item || is long standing solitude supposed to give you a free purchase every level? Cause it seems to be doing it only every few levels. I went from 16 to 17 without getting a free purchase I got one on 18 then didn't get one on 19||

[mental mountain]

||and i just didn't get oen for level 20 either||

[lavish jacinth]

it's supposed to, but I think it's just kinda glitchy

[mental mountain]

|| i feel like it could be a neat item if it was working right and glitvhing but rn it seems not great im getting signifiantly less items then i wouold be getting||

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, the fact that it basically guarantees hitting max level is still really damn strong lol. But yeah they need to fix the jank

also you don't need to spoiler it, it's not a secret

[mental mountain]

Ahh ok I wasnr sure since it was a dlc item

[plush atlas]

wait, if damaging wisps stuns them, then does poison render them unable to attack for the duration of the effect?

does acrid completely neuter wisps 😭😭

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much

[plush atlas]

beautiful

[devout panther]

Can I cause elemental effect(fire,ice,ect) without having to use Gasoline, Artificer? Is there anything that just add on elemental dmg on top of my regular dmg?

[lavish jacinth]

nothing that's convenient
Blazing aspect would be what you want, either temporarily from or getting the 1/4000 drop from a blazing elite

are the only other things that work with ignition tank (I assume that's why you're asking)

technically too, but it also increases the self-damage so you probably don't want that

would be the best one to actually try to get, unless you really wanna farm blazing elites

[queen folio]

happy 2025, can somebody explain the new twisted mechanics?

[lavish jacinth]

wiki sums it up pretty well

[queen folio]

that explains me seeing blue enemies

[grim hatch]

Ok, thank you, i try this tomorow

[ionic igloo]

Are the prayer beads themselves leveling up, and not caring about my level at all?

I always thought they would scale worse because they'd level up with me but eventually noticed that's not really the case

[flint prawn]

Their levels are treated differently than yours, yes

[livid wedge]

@ionic igloo experience is exponential. At higher levels, they'll gain levels faster themselves

[quiet mango]

the bandit sadist achievement

any tips?

[queen otter]

or

[dusky raven]

and on like AWU or something

[quiet mango]

AWU?

[livid wedge]

Allied Worship Unit

Big sphere on sirens call

Alloy*

[quiet mango]

aaaaaaaaaah

i see

thanks

[devout panther]

What are good perks for mercenary?

[twilit crown]

Is it a bug that halcyon shrines can't spawn on non-sots stages besides the set of first stages?

[lavish jacinth]

assuming you mean items, there isn't much that's super specific to merc, you can more or less treat him like a proc character. is obviously good, has a really strong unique synergy that lets him apply two stacks of expose at a time (the debuff icon doesn't show stacks but you can hit them twice before the expose goes away).

Attack speed is arguably bad depending on your playstyle, it actually has some negative interactions with his skills (his secondary doesn't travel as far, hitboxes don't last as long, and it's harder to do the expose tech with his primary). But if you don't care about tech and just wanna go nuts with the sword then it's fine

Speed, healing items and defense items are good as always ofc

[lavish jacinth]

They can spawn on other stages, they're just weirdly rare after stage 1 and have a small pool of possible environments

[fringe lintel]

Is there any Indicator that tells me how many ive pushed ive tried to do it in multipile Runs even in Similcarium but i dont really know if ive got any, can i find like maybe a indicator in the Files or anything

[glacial knoll]

yeah they'll fix it eventually

[glacial knoll]

it should tell you in game i think

[lavish jacinth]

the challenges section in the logbook

[glacial knoll]

not like exactly just a bar

[fringe lintel]

Thx

imma check there

God damn im close

[quiet mango]

oh gods im jelly! im so low

[fringe lintel]

I was just weirded out bc other steam games just tell you with a little Pop Up in the Down Right Corner like 1/20 or smth

[lavish jacinth]

The only games I know that do that are valve games

[twilit crown]

Is it a bug that they cannot spawn on the other stages?

[lavish jacinth]

I didn't think it was but based on what Wolfo said I might be wrong lol

[devout panther]

Whats the trick to beating the elemental enemies? Just get more dps?

[lavish jacinth]

just attack them more lol

there's no trick to them, they just have more health (among other buffs)

[fringe lintel]

Thx Mate

[lavish jacinth]

nifty

[devout panther]

Does leech do one tick per hit or does it base on your damage output?

[lavish jacinth]

1hp per hit * proc coeff

leeching seed kinda sucks lol

[quasi crystal]

It's really bait, like as a new player without actually knowing how it works you think it'll be some awesome item heals % of damage or something but nope it's literally useless past stage 1

[lavish jacinth]

if you want on-hit healing, get +

[quasi crystal]

Or if you wanna do something impractical

[lavish jacinth]

day whatever of petitioning to add LeechingSeedBuff to vanilla

[leaden field]

Leeching seed is basically just insta scrap unless I’m commando or mul t power mode nailgun

[cursive compass]

Even then the healing is negligible, it is a really bad item

[grizzled thistle]

hi guys. I'm playing ror2 with a xbox one controller, and the right stick (wich controls the camera) isn't working. The controller works fine in order games. I tried a lot of solutions that i found on internet, but they seems to not work any more. Does anyone know what to do?

[vocal cradle]

on prime miridian there is lighting, and it aplies some wierd effect, what does it do?

it debufs your movemnt speed and healing by 20%, ouch

[slender thicket]

can you get the sots stages without doing the path of the colossus thing?

[hoary sedge]

if you mean the halcyon shrine then yes, you can use the lunar seers in the bazaar to get to em

you can also get to them from gilded coast if you go there from a stage 1 or 2

[steady stone]

This is outdated I believe. Let me find the current effect, because I know they got rid of the speed loss with the item reworks

Took a bit, had to do it on mobile lol

[quasi crystal]

I finally got the lunar chimera entry. I just need the Void voiding one now

[reef turtle]

What do I have to do to get the alternate skins for a character because I just beat the game twice with beginner and I didn’t get anything

[steady stone]

The first alt skins you have to beat the game or obliterate on , so go for final boss or the stage 8 celestial portal specifically on Monsoon difficulty

The second ones are from beating False Son on any difficulty iirc, it doesn't mention a difficulty on those ones.

[brittle jasper]

Hi i just got this game. Its loads of fun. I was curious as to what artifacts are

[steady stone]

They're little things to change the game on your runs, so like activating lets you choose your items. They can be unlocked from ||the hidden portal on stage 5, by entering codes. Codes are found on like all vanilla maps, or on a little cheat sheet if you don't want to look for them||

||The portal uses like a 3x3 combination lock basically||

[brittle jasper]

Oh cool! I beat the game on the moon i think it was. It was tough though

[ember lantern]

This is kind of a niche thing that only really comes up in modded, but I’m curious

Let’s say I have two sources of ignite damage from two items. (Let’s say gas at 175% and Molten coin from SS2 at 100%) I proc molten coin which gives one stack of ignite damage for 100%. I then kill an enemy next to that enemy to initiate another stack of ignite damage at gas’ 175%

What happens? Does it just do the 100% + 175% for 275%? Does it count the stacks as Gas’ ignite and do 175% x2? And what happens if I add another stack either through coin or gas? How does the game handle stacks of debuffs when the debuffs apply at 2 different damage values?

[marble osprey]

I've also been kinda curious about this so I'm gonna go ahead and try to test it
I will go ahead and say that stacking gas doesn't actually increase the damage per tick, it just increases how long the status effect is applied for

[ember lantern]

Does bleed act any differently while I’m at it?

Ik there’s an item in like toomanyitems that applies bleed with less damage or smth

[marble osprey]

Idk about that since it's modded, but ik that base game bleed all deals the same damage but doesn't necessarily last for the same amount of time, and the old stacks do get overwritten by the new ones
So if you have one stack of bleed that would usually last ten seconds, and you apply a second that only lasts five, both stacks will disappear after five seconds
Ik burn doesn't do the same tho bc it's duration isn't refreshed when stacking

[lavish jacinth]

Each stack tracks its damage individually iirc

[lavish jacinth]

Also not entirely true, bleed duration only refreshes upwards

So bleed won't get screwed over by having a low-coeff proc like plasma shrimp or something

[ember lantern]

Oh cuz duration is based on proc coefficient for bleed, right

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[ember lantern]

I was wondering if there was some weird item interaction where like transmitter applies bleed at a low duration and could screw you over or smth

But since it applies upwards and based on proc that wouldn’t happen

[lavish jacinth]

Actually I don't know if transmitter has a proc coefficient

[ember lantern]

Well it’s not even like a “hit” right? So it just autosets an additional stack of bleed when it does its teleport?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, you don't strictly need a coeff to apply a status effect, but if an attack does have one then it'll affect duration

[ember lantern]

Funky!

This game has such peculiar programming I love getting into the weeds of it with these interactions

[marble osprey]

From what I'm seeing yeah this seems right

[lavish jacinth]

Gasoline works like that, it has 0 coeff but forces a stack of burn to be added anyway. I imagine transmitter is the same but sots items are weird lol

[livid wedge]

Anyone else have lemurians killed amount as 0?

[ember lantern]

Ah but then would an item like molten coin (which functions based off a proc) be effected by proc coefficient working off duration or is that a bleed thing and not a burn thing?

[lavish jacinth]

Average profile stat behavior

[livid wedge]

Every other stat is fine

[marble osprey]

Yeah, I'm guessing it's the glitch I've seen people talking about where it's using devotion lemurians instead of regular ones

[livid wedge]

Or at least looks fine

Oh, yup, elder lemurians are also at 0

[ember lantern]

Oh yeah the lumerian’s outline in my logbook is blue for some reason but I just assumed it was modded fuckery

[livid wedge]

I'm assuming that's already been reported?

[ember lantern]

(It probably is modded fuckery but it could be happening here)

[lavish jacinth]

It's an (almost) every status effect thing, not just bleed and burn

Not sure about molten coin since it's modded but I assume they'd make it work the same way

[lavish jacinth]

Is it for devotion lems, maybe?

[marble osprey]

Yep, just tested, it's devotion lemurians

[ember lantern]

Gotcha, thanks for the help y’all 👍

[marble osprey]

If you do a chaos + devotion run and kill one of your own lemurians it'll show up as killed in the logbook

[ember lantern]

That’s really funny actually

[livid wedge]

Tharson is OK

[inner viper]

nuh uh

[brittle plaza]

how is everyone doing

[visual hound]

this question asked prolly 5 times a day but is the game actually playable

im tryin to play it w my partner but i heard its fallen from grace or smth

[marble osprey]

Yeah it was in a pretty bad state immediately after the dlc launched but it's fine now

[visual hound]

so you'd say its good enough to try playing together now

[wide parrot]

yes

[visual hound]

fiya

[marble osprey]

Definitely yeah

[potent bough]

Ok, on Rallypoint Delta, there's a Crowbar 3D printer, and I'm playing as Mult, and I have items I want to use in a scrapper, but I can't find it. Is a scrapper guarenteed to appear on this map, because it's there in the Wiki, but I don't know if it's guarenteed to be there.

[wide parrot]

Scrapper's aren't ever guaranteed

[dusky raven]

anyone know how to fix sfx being so quiet?

[devout panther]

What's the best items for sniper?

[cursive compass]

Unless you count the 50/50 scrapper spawn on Verdant Falls

[quasi crystal]

Idk why I put universally good items on there MB but those should be top priorities, if you're using default special is a priority too @devout panther

[cursive compass]

are also amazing

Also worth noting that can steal your band procs

[quasi crystal]

Well those are universally good

Like besides seeker and self damage rex I can't think of anything spaces isnt the best on, and on those 2 spaces is just less good

[cursive compass]

Fair, although with the amount of scoping railgunner does, I reckon it'll help newer players even more on her than on most characters

[sacred ingot]

i always thought they should be

the heart of ror2 is the item minmaxing and build optimization imo. guaranteed scrappers would make a lot of sense from this perspective

[bold reef]

I always hate the runs where I don't get any scrappers I feel so much less in control and you're way more prone to being screwed

[bold reef]

can be super nice too having another band proc on command on such a low cd is so nice

Bonus points if you have other stuff that works with it too like

And unstable transmitter

[quasi crystal]

Oh yeah definitely I forgot to mention equipment
With > as well

[bold reef]

God an ATG proc off of a special and then blast shower letting both of those hits proc bands that sounds so cracked that's disgusting

[cursive compass]

Railgunner is one of the few characters where can sometimes be better than since her specials both have a proc co higher than 1.0

[bold reef]

I think I prefer atg on Loader too just because she doesn't attack a lot at all and when she does its a lot of dmg

[lavish jacinth]

Atg also has the advantage of being able to change targets if the original one dies while shrimp missiles just fizzle out, which is good if you tend to one-shot things

On the other hand, loader can conceivably kill a boss without proccing an atg even once so the guaranteed shrimp proc might end up being more useful

The shrimp/atg matchup is always weird because they perfectly counter eachothers strengths and weaknesses lol

[nocturne apex]

ima put this simple

big hits = atg, fast small hits = shrimp

[lavish jacinth]

Tbh you should probably just take shrimp if you find it, unless you're Rex or have a clover

It's one extra damage item and 2 shrimp definitely beats 1 atg

[cursive compass]

Mathematically Plimp almost always outdamages ATG, whether its big hits or small hits, UNLESS the attack has more than 1.0 proc chance

Plimp performs better the more hits, as it procs more missiles which each have 0.2 proc coefficient, so more things will be procced, and when comparing ATG and plimp, plimp will win in 99% of situations

Blast shower builds utilise ATG in a unique way to proc bands, so they are an exception to that

And self damage rex also sees better use from ATG than plimp as he damages the shield of plimp

[nocturne apex]

I assume you have a spreadsheet to back this up?

[cursive compass]

ATG increases your damage by an average of 30%, whilst plimp increases it by 40%

So if your proc coefficient is 1.0 plimp wins

If your proc coefficient is 3.0, like railgunners supercharge, ATG increases the damage by an average of 100%

So in this instance ATG wins

If your proc coefficient is lower than 1 then plimp will win even more

EG Nailgun MulT, Rex m1, Captain m1, etc

Additionally, each hit = 3 missiles with 0.2 proc coefficient
So if I deal 1 hit of 1000 damage and it procs ATG, it will deal 3000 damage and hit with a 1 × 1.0 proc coefficient

If I hit 10 times and deal 1000 damage total, that will proc an average of 1 ATG dealing the same damage and 1 × 1.0 proc as before

If I hit 10 times and deal 1000 total damage with plimp, it will deal 4000 damage and hit with 30 × 0.2 proc coefficient, or ~6.0, if you wanna think about it like that

[nocturne apex]

Dunno abt the whole “more damage overral” part (im still not buying that), I drew that conclusion I made earlier bc if atg procs from smth like Loader Utility punches or Railgunner shots, it hits like a truck

While obviously any character that fires fast like Mando would benefit more from shrimp, so you rly don’t have to explain that to me

[cursive compass]

The more damage overall is just a fact

Plimp does 40% total damage, atg does 10% × 300% for 30% average

So plimp does more in the vast majority of situations, when looking at raw damage numbers, and also procs more stuff

Like, if we have 2 categories, "fast" hitting and "slow" hitting characters, I'd put it as:
Fast ATG = 5
Slow ATG = 4
Fast Plimp = 8
Slow Plimp = 6
With higher number = more power

[nocturne apex]

Shrimp proc coef is 0.1 iirc right?

[cursive compass]

It might be, I'm pretty sure its 0.2 but that might be me mixing it up with Plute

either way, thats still more average procs

[nocturne apex]

Okay 0.2, oke

[pine inlet]

the reminder

[nocturne apex]

Off topic but I hope GBX buffed the alt laser

[cursive compass]

They will do, its terrible atm

[cursive compass]

What the fuck

[pine inlet]

the reminder

[cursive compass]

Ok so thats insane

[pine inlet]

yknow whats also insane

[cursive compass]

WHAT are those puny ass effects when its hitbox is THAT bit

[cursive compass]

HUH

There ain't no way

[pine inlet]

reality is often disappointing

[cursive compass]

They stole the hitbox from that and gave it to the charge 😭

[nocturne apex]

Hitbox dissonance is real

[cursive compass]

gbx better get this characters shit together

It feels so disjointed

And god the animation quality is so lacking

Flings his club around like its a fucking noodle that hes trying to swing with a broken arm

[nocturne apex]

It is funny when you have a bunch of attack speed and his baseball bat goes brrrr

[cursive compass]

Yeah he goes crazy with that limp thing 😭

[lavish jacinth]

I find it very interesting that the uncharged club is practically a copy/paste of loaders primary, and loader m1 ALSO had screwed-up vfx when sots launched

[cursive compass]

Thats interesting, I never thought about that

I always wondered how exactly they screwed up the vfx on that

Also, we know that a lot of copy/pasting happened in the dlc, as evidenced by the current vagrant orb bug being caused by the scorch wurms orbs being copy/pasted vagrant orbs

[nocturne apex]

That explains why vagrant orbs cannot be destroyed on pre-patch SoTS

[cursive compass]

Yeah, once a scorch wurm fires its projectile, it makes all vagrant orbs in the run indestructible

[fresh umbra]

Suspiciously gup-shaped hitbox

[terse radish]

does super massive leech work with turrets spawned by the engineer?

[wide parrot]

They can't use equipment if that's what you're wondering

[lavish jacinth]

and damage they deal won't heal you

[terse radish]

oh I see

I feel a bit stupid but yeah that's what I wanted to know

sorry for the late reply by the way

[full zephyr]

what does the skill check thing on railgunner do?

[analog brook]

Ain't no way this much of the dlc is just reused code 😭

[full zephyr]

after using the mb2

[analog brook]

Let's you use the scope faster aswell as increase the damage of your next scope in hit (I forgor by how much)

[full zephyr]

gotcha thank you

[quasi crystal]

Does anybody have like pictures for all of the completed environmental logs so I can figure out which ones I'm missing

I can't find a guide that just names all of them in the same order that they appear in the logbook

[fresh umbra]

Why do i sometimes have my cooldowns halved as seeker?

[regal plank]

I took a break for a few years is the game still receiving updates and dlc

[marble osprey]

Yeah

[livid wedge]

Did you pick up ?

That halves cooldown and attack speed

[fresh umbra]

No

Like the thin horizontal white bar that shows how far the cooldown has left starts halfway, and it only happened sometimes. Couldn’t get it to happen at commencement

[cursive compass]

Whats the run context? Is it right from the start, and is it consistent?

[livid wedge]

Any ?

[cursive compass]

any screenshots or anything?

[livid wedge]

I know the cooldown starts at wherever it was when you pick up the pack next time

Mods?

[cursive compass]

will make the cooldown resume where it was if you pick it up mid-cooldown, iirc so it could be that yeah

[fresh umbra]

Vanilla

[fresh umbra]

This is probably it then. Was this a recent change?

[cursive compass]

No, its how its always worked

its just kinda hard to notice

[digital canopy]

Does playing with mods hide the multiplayer lobbies or is just nobody on PC?

[olive narwhal]

How does hacking beacon + credit card + multishop terminal work? Do you get all 3 items or 1?

Nvm, it works, you get all 3!

[proven light]

I've watched a couple videos on Arti and which loadout/items are best for her, but every source conflicts with others. Could someone explain to me the differences in crayon eating terms? Ex. When would flamethrower be better than ion surge, etc, etc.

[marble osprey]

Hacking beacon works as if you just bought it yourself, so it works with credit card and also sale star
So you can just smack it down on the legendary chest and it'll use the sale star on it

[lavish jacinth]

it could be because you have crossplay enabled, try turning it off

when it's turned on you can only join other crossplay lobbies, and nobody uses it because it's a glitchy mess

[high forum]

it's literally whichever you want. both are useable and totally fine to beat the game with. ion surge if you want movement, flamethrower for making all your item effects pop off

people have preferences but both are fine enough that one isn't distinctly 'better'

[proven light]

What about the primary and secondary?

[lavish jacinth]

Her primaries are pretty equal on their own, flame bolt has higher raw damage but plasma is good aoe. But the fact that exists kinda makes flame a little bit better by default

[high forum]

yeah, i'd say flame bolt too

orb is cooler

er, nano bomb

[lavish jacinth]

secondary depends on which special you're running
if you're using surge, you'll definitely want bomb, it's pretty hard to utilize spear's pierce when you're above everything

for flamethrower it can go either way, the extra freeze makes it safer to approach but bomb still has the advantage of raw damage, plus aoe is generally a little better than piercing in this game imo. Enemies clump up a lot but they're not always in a straight line

items also depend on your special, ion surge lets you ignore most threats so you can invest much more into damage than you otherwise might.
She has a very solid band proc so burst items ( ) and reliable multipliers like are great, but total damage procs are as strong as always (even moreso with flamethrower)

with flamethrower it's mostly the same but you'll wanna go for more mobility and healing, but you do have a little more damage in your base kit to make up for it. Attack speed is also fairly good now that it affects her primary cooldown

[proven light]

Thanks for the info

[distant musk]

what portal do I take to go back to trying to kill false son

[vagrant frigate]

greenn im rpetty sure DONT DO IT before anyone else says green

[analog brook]

Green

[fading peak]

Me and my cousin were playing split-screen multiplayer and his controller died. When we got new batteries it didn’t let him rejoin so he couldn’t move. I closed the game from the xbox menu and when we reloaded the game the 2 new characters I unlocked were gone. I quit the game again and restarted the console and still nothing. Anyone know how to get my new characters back. I was going to try uninstalling and reinstalling soon.

[sand helm]

Any tips for bandit?

[cursive compass]

Backstab as much as possible as its really strong, utilise the invisibility + stun on the shift to get behind enemies easily, and try to stack hemorrhage (backstab an enemy with m2) whenever you can as it does pretty high damage

[sand helm]

Also how do I unlock artifacts

[lavish jacinth]

underneath sky meadow and at the top of helminth hatchery, there's a big machine that lets you input codes into a 3x3 grid thing, which takes you to a trial where you can unlock artifacts

each artifact has a corresponding code, there's one sitting next to the machine as an example and the rest are hidden throughout the game, usually on similar stone tablets

[nocturne apex]

You can either go hunt for the artifact codes hidden around the game or

Look it up lol

[lavish jacinth]

the wiki page also has all of the codes if you don't feel like looking for them, and a hint guide if you wanna find them yourself and need help https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts

[wintry fjord]

In multiplayer do you share XP?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

same as gold

[wintry fjord]

Ok

[azure junco]

So I’m a bandit main and I’m trying to figure out what the best build for him is. The only artifact I have is command, what should I pick up in each rarity for him?

[nocturne apex]

You want to make use of his backstab passive so speed items like goat hooves, energy drinks, etc. helps to do that

Basically just build him exactly like you would build Mando, with on hit effects and attack speeds (makes him reload his gun quicker)

Also both his Specials can proc bands

And since Bandit has 100% crit from Backstab feel free to pick up Lost Seer

[azure junco]

I’m a new player so I don’t know what any of that means

I don’t know who mando is

Unless you mean commando

[nocturne apex]

Commando, obviously

Tbf I was half-expecting you to know most of the items if you were to ask for builds

[urban thicket]

probably stupid question but i’m a very new player and i’m struggling getting past the third map. is there anything i should learn about the game before going at it again?

[nocturne apex]

How much time did it take you to get to stage 3?

[urban thicket]

about 12-16 mins. by the time i get there the difficulty ticks to hard

[nocturne apex]

That's very fast, and how much items did you get?

[urban thicket]

kinda varies. either i get nothing super useful or im stack with a good handful. i hardly know what anything does off the top of my head

[nocturne apex]

Yeah I have to do a safe assumption that you did not get enough damage, or speed, or both to advance any further

I would suggest you take your time to loot more on a stage, but not too long

Depends how much loot is on the stage (if you see a lot of printers, shrines, drones, you are definitely not going to get more chests) and the stage size respectively

[urban thicket]

i really don’t. i can only remember twice when i got an attack speed upgrade ande nothing else. aside from taking my time, is there anything else that would help like some sort of mechanic i don’t know about?

i have about two hours of experience

[nocturne apex]

Well I would suggest you try to learn and memorize the stage layout so next time you can plan your looting route more efficiently

[urban thicket]

aight ty

[nocturne apex]

It's a learning process, so eventually you develop your own pace that suits you the most

[urban thicket]

and i’ll just end up unlocking things the further i get right

[nocturne apex]

Yeah

For very specific stuff you can check in the logbook

[zenith lodge]

can you play seekers of the storm with a friend who doesnt have the dlc?

[primal terrace]

As long as one person has the dlc, I do believe everyone gets access to it

[marble osprey]

Yeah, everyone in the lobby can play with anything anyone in the lobby has unlocked, including expansions, items, and artifacts
The only difference will be players who don't have the expansions can't use the dlc characters

[quartz sonnet]

I’m very new and only have 2 characters. I’m guessing I have to buy dlc to get other characters???
Or do they unlock over time?

Played with randoms yesterday and found one guy op due to him having a jet pack and some crazy blue orb stuff

Enlighten me peoples

I played on steam deck and could not type in chat to ask. When I say new I’ve played about 3hrs so far

[queen otter]

5 characters are from dlc, those being and for the Survivors of the Void dlc ( ) and and from the Seekers of the Storm dlc.
All remaining characters are unlocked by quests in the base game, like which is unlocked by completing 30 stages

[quasi crystal]

Engineer is unlocked by completing 30 stages

[nocturne apex]

which is unlocked by buying 40 drones

you got it mixed up with 1/Returns Engi

[queen otter]

oh mb 😭😭

tysm for the correction

[left trellis]

AI overview
use the wiki aaaaaaaa

[quasi crystal]

I am posting it because I found it funny also rndthursday is a source which is even funnier

[nocturne apex]

AI overview once told me that 5/16 is larger than 3/8

[fleet ibex]

Is there anyway to lock chef back or let someone else unlock chef when Im host and I've already unlocked him? Mod or command or modyfiing save file? Im fine with locking him back for myself

[glad flume]

I just thought the unlock was tied to whover completes the recipe?

[high forum]

jesus christ

[fleet ibex]

Wait, so it's fully personal? I might be a dumbass then

[azure junco]

Is there a simple way to unlock the backup mag? Or is purely just you pray you don’t get hit during a teleporter event? Like is there a certain character who can do that better than the rest?

[lavish jacinth]

you can do it in a prismatic trial, in trials the tp charges instantly once the boss is dead. Just oneshot the boss as railgunner or something and then leave

or you can use artifact of glass or a few stacks of , you'll oneshot most enemies and the downside doesn't matter if you can't get hit anyway

or just play until you accidentally get it without even trying lol

[paper cypress]

Google says to defeat the False Son with a halcyon seed in your inventory to unlock the character. I did that and I didn't unlock the character.

[azure junco]

Just one question then, what is a prismatic trial, I started yesterday.

[lavish jacinth]

you probably killed him too quickly, you have to wait until aurelionite actually spawns

[lavish jacinth]

it's an alternate game mode

[paper cypress]

No. Aurelionite spawned. Killed him faster than the false son.

[lavish jacinth]

you should've gotten it then

[paper cypress]

I did have double enemies on. Would that potentially cause issue?

[lavish jacinth]

maybe? I know that unlock in particular is kinda janky for some reason

unfortunately I don't know what specifically causes it to break other than not letting aurelionite spawn, some people have had to do it multiple times before it randomly decides to work

[paper cypress]

I had the healing skull (the item that spawns skulls when healing) then had my turrets with mushrooms. Killed the boss pretty much as soon as it spawned but aurelionite spawned right on top of my turrets and died nearly immediately.

[azure junco]

I got the one boss that’s multiple enemies, horde of many.

[lavish jacinth]

ig just try to let them both live for a bit before you start fighting, make sure they both get all their spawn animations and stuff out of the way

[lavish jacinth]

it'll still work if you can kill them without taking a hit, or you can try it on the next stage

[azure junco]

I got one shot by them.

[lavish jacinth]

well then uh

try not to do that I guess

prismatic trials are the same seed every time so you can try again and it'll be exactly the same

or you can wait for a new seed, they change every 3 days

dodging also just takes some practice, don't get discouraged if you don't get it right away

[azure junco]

Is there any negative side effect to corrupted items? Like if the MK 1. Missile gets corrupted?

[glacial knoll]

Plasma Shrimp might be worse than ATG under circumstances

[azure junco]

What if I stacked six of them

With the upgrade that increases missile damage and gives two extra missiles

[glacial knoll]

Doesn't really make it better if you're REX or have a clover or smth

[azure junco]

Oh

[glacial knoll]

All the voids have some trade off but are also generally better

[lavish jacinth]

there isn't a direct downside like lunar items though

you're just trading one effect for another, whether it's better or worse is situational (although a lot of voids tend to be better on average)

[left trellis]

the tricky thing about voids that I think people tend to miss when discussing their balance is that having more copies of An Item just tends to be better than One Less Of A Similar Item in the vast majority of cases

like, if you have a tri-tip dagger and you come across a needletick, you're not choosing between dagger and needletick; you're choosing between one dagger and two needleticks. the latter is superior in basically all cases

[lavish jacinth]

well, not necessarily with needletick and tritip

but atg and shrimp are a good example, 2 shrimps pretty much always beats 1 atg

[plush atlas]

they should make false son a way to end your run in eclipse too cause this smells

[cursive compass]

Maybe if they can polish up the false son fight to the level of mithrix, but rn that'd be pretty a annoying way to end a run

[quasi crystal]

if you get good item rng false son would make the run like 20 minutes long lol

[cursive compass]

Also, ending a run at prime meridian isn't exactly the same as at commencement, since its less stages

If false son was a mithrix equivalent then I'd agree itd be cool, but he isn't, he's just a boss before mithrix

[azure junco]

Is there any easier way to get 20 stacks of Hemorrhage? Because the most I’ve gotten is ten and I keep getting killed because I have to be on top of enemies. I’ve been using backup mag but it’s still hard.

[marble osprey]

But you're also considering the future of the run tho
Like if you find a void band stage 1 with no bands, obviously 1 void band is better than 0 regular bands, but that doesn't mean you should take it

[steady stone]

Stage 4 Siren's, stand on top of AwU. It will rotate, but since you're on top, you will go with it.

That, and AwU has an absurd amount of health

[cursive compass]

Also, picking up a void item removes the ability to scrap any of the normal item you pick up, so it can be a detriment

[quasi crystal]

on the newt is how I got it

[azure junco]

I haven’t beat mithrix.

[steady stone]

purity is the lame way

[cursive compass]

Sometimes the extra damage from a needletick on loader is not worth losing out on scrapping tri tips, but that's big game macro stuff

[steady stone]

but yeah it probably works best

[azure junco]

Is there a reason when I’m doing it on top of something I’m like jumping up? Even though I’m not pressing the jump button?

[marble osprey]

Personally I just went command + a bunch of backup mags + an ocular HUD and then spammed them all at the boss

[quasi crystal]

Awu can't see you on top

[steady stone]

If in the air, you do a little hop

[steady stone]

Well it tries to look up, but just like us, can't look all the way i believe

[azure junco]

So wouldn’t it do it if I’m floating on top of the AWU?

[steady stone]

You're technically "standing" on it, so probably not

AwU is the only enemy i've gotten 2500 stacks of bleed on anyway, it has enough health for a few mistakes to be made

[azure junco]

I hope so

I’m so tired of trying to unlock this thing

[steady stone]

You can always go for Uke or meat hook too, to kill things around AwU while you use m2, to avoid dying

[lavish jacinth]

hemorrhage also lasts 15 seconds and refreshes each time a new stack is added, so you get plenty of time to get back onto it if you fall off

Aurelionite also works if you happen to get a gold shrine, that's how I did it. There's not as much wiggle room with its health as there is with AWU though

[golden quail]

What are some good basic items for artificer?

[steady stone]

Artificer is considered a "burst" character, and excels with general/burst damage

For example, can be quite strong, along with static damage increases like or

is like her "signature" because of her primary, which inflicts fire.

[cursive compass]

Crowbars and backup mags are helpful white items to have, and defensive items like , , , and are really underrated on her imo

[steady stone]

Some tips can also be found on the wiki
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artificer#Tips

[cursive compass]

Also, her alt special is incredible and character changing

[vale hollow]

I like the fireball m1 and ion surge. Then just rain fire from the sky box with

[cursive compass]

Its a battle that was won loooong ago

[steady stone]

Both abilities have their positives and negatives, where both are good.

Flamethrower benefits good on proc and with ignition, while ion helps with movement and avoiding damage, along with improving ion bomb.

[cursive compass]

Flamethrower is in the bottom level of abilities in this game, I'm sorry

Its a poorly balanced ability that was made extremely early in the games development and never buffed or changed outside of minor tweaks

[vale hollow]

I love arti but I don't know how people can use flamethrower

[cursive compass]

Akin to arrow rain, bubble shield, and the like

Its just... objectively bad, unfortunately, and I wish it was better than it is

[steady stone]

If you want actual comparisons, the tips on the wiki also include that

Most of the arguments here don't use evidence or anything

[cursive compass]

Do not take the wiki at face value, trust me

It has some ABSURDLY misinformed takes

Its a laughing stock for most of the community

[steady stone]

depends on the wiki
the fandom i have seen some things on, but i havent seen anything bad when i moved to gg

most people just tell you to move to gg for that reason

finally listened and it's been smooth so far, only out of date is I believe a minor inconsistency with BrotherBlacklist

[lavish jacinth]

it's like a lot of game wikis, it's generally accurate for anything objective, like item stats or game mechanics or whatever. But anything more opinion-based should be taken with a grain of salt

[steady stone]

Yeah, but the "tips" parts normally don't say "this is better," which is what I like. It just says "this gives you this advantage, while this does this other thing. Compare them yourself and experiment with what works"

[cursive compass]

I wish it didn't take such a "both sides" opinion on matters where there is an objective "better option"

[lavish jacinth]

because ror2 isn't a game where playing the "better option" actually matters lmao

[cursive compass]

Genuinely

[lavish jacinth]

it's not a competitive game

[steady stone]

Anyways, this isn't really the place for another stereotypical argument.

[cursive compass]

Yes but in the wiki it should tell you what is better or worse

[steady stone]

"don't make me tap the sticker"

[cursive compass]

Thats part of the reason for a wiki

[lavish jacinth]

ideally the wiki should tell you how to use everything optimally, regardless of whether it's the better option or not

[cursive compass]

I'm not saying people shouldn't use certain skills, but new players shouldn't be told "blight vs poison is up to opinion" when its been proven that poison outperforms blight in 99% of situations

The wiki does not mention that at all

Instead it takes a "both sides" opinion once again

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think it should tell you what you should use at all

[cursive compass]

Exactly, but it should tell you what is stronger

[steady stone]

I mean, they both work
it's a pve game at the end of the day, where you can literally win with anything

[cursive compass]

Thats what its for. All of the testing and number crunching for blight vs poison was done to ascertain which is better, and it has a concrete conclusion! Yet the wiki completely ignores all of the hours of testing instead

[cursive compass]

They both work, thats fine, but thats not what I'm talking about

[steady stone]

You can't really compare it mathematically when one does %
Like if something has billions of health on a loop, poison will do more dmg

[cursive compass]

It has been proven through thorough testing against a variety of mobs at different points in a run with different item setups

[steady stone]

The Youtubers normally stick to "tier lists" and "metas," and most people just make fun of them for it.

[cursive compass]

and in the vast majority of cases, poison beat blight, and when blight beat poison, it was only by a matter of roughly 5-20 seconds. Meanwhile poison regularly beat blight by minutes for kill times

[cursive compass]

This wasn't a tier list, it was actual thorough testing

Like, mathematically proven

[steady stone]

I'm talking about generally saying "this is better"
It will always attract SOME problem, so for an informational website, it's better to provide the facts

[cursive compass]

Its a FACT that poison outperforms blight, though, that's what I'm getting at
Why does the wiki ignore it, and mislead new players, who go to the wiki to find out what is better?

The wiki should at least mention this information somewhere

[lavish jacinth]

all it should say is
"This skill is good at this"
"This other skill is good at this"
And let people figure it out on their own. Trying to bluntly say "this skill is better" leads to stupid arguments like this, which is why they avoid doing it

[cursive compass]

When its something that is 1) easy to prove, and 2) important information that people often ask and seek, I don't see why it should be completely ignored just so that an argument can be avoided (an argument that shouldn't even really exist)
This is the WIKI, it should have all of the communities information and knowledge, yet there are things that are ignored for no good reason

[lavish jacinth]

my guy, I'm speaking from experience here
idk how long you've been around the ror2 community, but the biggest drama this game has ever had (other than the sots launch ig) came from people trying to say that you shouldn't ever deviate from meta loadouts and trying to push that as objective fact

like, the wiki editors were getting attacked over this shit

[cursive compass]

I'm not saying people should only use poison, I'm saying the pool of all game knowledge should include the fact that, mathematically, poison is better than blight because that is important information for people who want to know which is better

Its ok for some abilities to be better than others

I WISH all abilities were balanced, if I could change anything about the game I'd change the underperforming abilities to be more fun and powerful
But unfortunately its not something the devs focused on in the past, and I doubt GBX will focus on it in the future

My point is this. If I ask, "what is stronger, blight or poison?" and you say "it's up to preference", you are lying to me

And this is exactly what the wiki is doing

If I say "What should I use, blight or poison", and you respond "its up to preference", then that is absolutely correct and fine and valid

But that's not what the wiki is for

Or not entirely what its for

It should provide all information, including which alternate ability is stronger

[lavish jacinth]

I'm not defending underpowered abilities, I wish they were better too.
And I agree that the wiki gives blight more credit than it deserves, but I would much rather have people be fairly informed on what each skill is actually good at and how it can be used, rather than just having some vague idea of which one is "better" because the wiki said so

[cursive compass]

I need to admit, my passion regarding this subject is purely because I think trying to paint bad abilities as good gives them much less hope to ever being buffed or changed
I WANT these abilities to be good, and for them to be buffed the devs need to know that they are bad

[lavish jacinth]

okay, that's a much better point

[cursive compass]

One of my favourite parts of the game is the variety in skills, and having a large portion of them just be blatantly worse than the competition feels so stifling

[steady stone]

Ok, I do agree with that, which is also why I think it is better to ask actual players about the general consensus
Like the wiki will never tell you sotv > sots, but every time someone asks in #ror2-discussion it's a unanimous "sotv"

[cursive compass]

I kinda realised mid conversation that thats why I always felt so strongly about it lol

[lavish jacinth]

but I also don't think the wiki is a good place for that at all

like, that's what the feedback channels are for

[steady stone]

Generally interacting with the community as a whole gives you a lot of info on what everyone thinks of meta

[cursive compass]

And the amount of potential there is for buffing and changing bad skills is sooo fun to think about

Imagine if blight had a 0.1 proc coefficient??

Wouldn't that be sick as fuck

Or something cooler to seperate it from poison enough that they can't be directly compared

Because they're both just DoT effects, its really easy to say one is better than the other

[steady stone]

sadly most of those posts are "add this item!" and like 1 out of 100 or more are changes

[cursive compass]

Meanwhile, rorrs alternate poison makes all attacks to more damage to the target, which is far more interesting than blight

[steady stone]

Well, scratch that I guess. Very few users make change posts, but those who do contribute a lot themselves

[cursive compass]

it also achieves what blight aims to (promoting an aggressive playstyle) in a much more effective way

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I kinda wish they'd add a separate channel for item/character/whatever ideas

[cursive compass]

Yeah

[lavish jacinth]

I agree, blight needs something

[steady stone]

i.e. wolfo, the guy who basically works for this game

[cursive compass]

Skills like arrow rain just need stat boosts and they'd be great

Flamethrower could use a range buff, maybe make it scale with attack speed
Also, making it agile would be great as it is quite awkward to use
Thats all that makes it "bad", in my opinion

[lavish jacinth]

Directive: Harvest, Blight and Flamethrower are like my top 3 "plz buff" skills lol

arrow rain would be up there too but I like playing Arti more

[lavish jacinth]

it already scales with speed

[cursive compass]

I mean the range of it

[lavish jacinth]

oh

[cursive compass]

Currently its range is so low that it often can't even hit blind pests on stage 1

[lavish jacinth]

eh, disagree tbh
I think flamethrower's identity is as a powerful, committal, high-risk/high-reward skill

[cursive compass]

Also making even better on arti is cool

[lavish jacinth]

the main thing it needs is damage

[cursive compass]

If the reward was higher I think it could be worth it, but its damage scales poorly late game and the risk gets exponentially higher, especially in eclipse

[lavish jacinth]

it was already powercrept pretty hard, but then sotv changed how burn damage worked and nerfed the hell out of flamethrower

[cursive compass]

Not being able to spring, and having to get close to an enemy whilst also not being able to use any other abilities, AND lacking a mobility skill to get you out of danger afterwards

[steady stone]

Yeah, flamethrower used to be "good for proc" but is now... mediocre with the burn changes

[lavish jacinth]

and for some reason they buffed flame bolt's damage to compensate, but all they did for flamethrower was make it scale with attack speed, which it should've always done anyway

[steady stone]

"Not being able to sprint?" Why do you say not to make it Agile then?

[cursive compass]

I did say make it agile

[steady stone]

oh, i must've read that original one wrong. just a miscommunication

[lavish jacinth]

I don't like the idea of sprinting with flamethrower because 1. you usually circlestrafe while using it, so unless they let arti sprint sideways, I don't think it'd be very useful. and 2. My muscle memory is to use sprint to cancel flamethrower so this would make the game literally unplayable for me

[cursive compass]

Theres a mod that increases the range and makes it agile, and it felt really fun to use even with its normal damage

[quasi crystal]

It does COLOSSAL damage though

[cursive compass]

Like I genuinely chose it over ion surge 50% of the time

[cursive compass]

[lavish jacinth]

I always thought it'd be neat if arti's jetpack had a built-in version of chrysalis' air dash thing

[steady stone]

Maybe only side to side, but yeah it would be cool

[cursive compass]

Flamethrower should launch arti upwards like in rorr........

So she can rain fire down on her foes

[steady stone]

-try to aim down at an enemy
-blasted away
-doesn't hit enemy

[lavish jacinth]

like it just gives you a little shove in the direction you're holding when you activate it, not a huge boost but enough to make the jetpack feel a little less slippery

[cursive compass]

Flamethrower should rapidly propel arti backwards like a high pressure water hose

[steady stone]

i feel like this might be the only reason it changed was the dimension shift

i've definitely seen people suggest flamethrower having propulsion before

[lavish jacinth]

ngl arti's entire kit feels like it was designed for 2d, especially ice wall

[lavish jacinth]

those people should just use ion surge lmao

[steady stone]

she does work great in rorr though. probably my favorite character there

[cursive compass]

Arti was one of the first characters designed, so it makes sense

[lavish jacinth]

iirc hopoo originally intended for ror2 to be 2.5d until they decided that full 3D was more fun

[cursive compass]

Yeah I love her in rorr EXCEPT THE FUCKING USELESS ASS SUN ABILITY OH MY GOD

Holy shit I hate it with a burning passion

They HAD A CHANCE TO FIX IT
THEY ADDED MOUSE AIMING
AND THEY DID NOTHING 😭

Its horrendous and atrocious and it makes me so sad

Ok I got it out, I'm done now

I think I need a Risk of Rain therapist, I have some deep rooted ror trauma

[nocturne apex]

Sun requires a different approach and mindset so….yeah

[flint prawn]

Flamethrower just needs to be not borderline melee range for it to be good imo

22 meters(as far as I remember) is way too close for her - for reference Focus Crystal is 20m range. Yeah.

[lavish jacinth]

crystal is 13m

[flint prawn]

Wait, is lantern 20 then? I got them mixed up didn't I

[lavish jacinth]

and the range on flamethrower isn't the problem, it's the damage

like I said earlier, the whole idea behind flamethrower is that it should be risky and committal, but powerful if used right

[fair rock]

Lantern is 20m ye

Focus Crystal increases damage by 20% to enemies within 13m is why you might've been confused

[flint prawn]

That's probably it. My bad

[fair rock]

Flamethrower's damage is indeed kind of just...poor. Honestly I have no reason to use it when you can just charge and throw secondary for pretty much the same damage if not better

[lavish jacinth]

it used to be better before they changed how burn damage worked

the average damage went from around 4000% to ~2500% iirc

[fair rock]

Yeah, that's what I heard. Only got the game last December after I heard they patched out most bugs from SotS

4000%

Good lord that's A LOT

[lavish jacinth]

only about half of that damage could actually proc tbf, but yeah it was pretty decent

burn used to do a flat 200% base damage, but in the SotV update they changed it to do 50% of the hit that procced it, unless it's something like gasoline that's just burn damage by itself

for most things that was a buff, but for arti specifically it was a nerf

they buffed the damage on her primaries to compensate but didn't buff flamethrower because ???????

[fair rock]

"It's in a good spot it doesn't need changes"
(it wasn't in a good spot.)

[lavish jacinth]

if you get flamethrower with a stack of ignition tank, that's about how much damage it used to deal

[primal terrace]

Hopoo treating Arti's flamethrower the way Valve treats the Righteous Bison

[lavish jacinth]

the best part is that gearbox buffed her primary AGAIN while forgetting that flamethrower exists

(*it's possible the arti buff was unintentional and just happened because they messed with how primary cooldowns worked when making chef, but still)

[quasi crystal]

I hope it stays when they remove ammo from chefs m1

[azure junco]

For bandits, is sticking with the serrated dagger recommend or do most use the serrated shiv?

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't make a huge difference, but the throwing knife is a little better imo

the difference in damage is negligible, and being able to apply hemorrhage from more than like 3 feet away is a nice convenience

the only other advantage of dagger is that it's technically an aoe, but a pretty small one. The aoe from smoke bomb is a lot more useful

[azure junco]

I like using smoke for the movement speed and extra jump

[lavish jacinth]

I mean yeah, that's usually what it's for, but the aoe is a nice bonus too and makes the one on dagger a lot less necessary

[azure junco]

True.

[lavish jacinth]

dagger's hitbox is also really weird

[azure junco]

I’m well aware, I can be standing right on top of an enemy and it doesn’t hit

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's why I prefer the throwing knife lol

[woeful shadow]

yo so I'm doing the like pillar thing that summons the green portal but I'm already in that area that you access through that green portal and a gold portal spawned does that take me to

nvm I just did some wiki research yes

[visual turtle]

Am I insane or does rex just actually suck? This loadout is not bad, if I were playing almost any other character this loudout would be fantastic, but I was on Abyssal depths and I was just doing jack all for damage. I couldn't dent literally anything, even crabs, and I'm just like how? Am I terrible? I went into the stage at 40 minutes and ended up coping the teleporter only to die at 80 minutes so I'm pretty salty right now, but I really just want to know is REX actually this bad? (I was using all self damage except m2 was not)

(Forgot to include this was on E7)

[dull kindle]

In my professional opinion you only have like 4 good damage items. The speed and crit is really nice but can’t do everything, honestly I think if you had like one dagger or gas you would’ve been in a much better spot

Even a crowbar would go a long way since you have fmp + wisp and are struggling with smaller enemies and gups

Though I’m surprised you’d be struggling that hard with 3 bands and a uke

[visual turtle]

That's exactly what I was thinking! I literally said to who I'm in call with rn that I wish I had like one crowbar or some watches or something. I was sooo close to a good build.

[visual turtle]

That's the main thing, I had shurkens and shift to proc them but they were just doing nothing and I don't really know why. I couldn't kill crabs with them and they were only doing like 10% to elites. 550% on bands I guess isn't as strong as I thought

[dull kindle]

It’s 550% of the damage of what procced them, I think shurikens and shift just weren’t doing enough

Didn’t mean to reply to that

[visual turtle]

I meant rex's shift does 550%, so that proccing bands wasn't as strong as I thought. And I mean comparitively to other characters it makes sense, a lot of them do way more than 550, most have a way to do 1000% or more (even mando has at least 700)

[dull kindle]

Ah, I haven’t actually unlocked alt shift yet (the conditions to meet go against my play style and I seldom play Rex)

Yeah your only damage multiplication was bands and crit (and a broken watch) so… lots of potential but not quite enough

[void fossil]

I keep getting this lunar item and the description is “does nothing. BUT…”
What does it do
Why is the game gatekeeping

[latent oyster]

Have you obliterated before

[void fossil]

Yeah

[latent oyster]

Go do it again but with the beads

[void fossil]

Ok

I’ll try that late r

[latent oyster]

Go to sleep

[void fossil]

Not tired

[latent oyster]

Not healthy

[tribal kettle]

what is "obliterated"

[full apex]

its the game end 'win' condition of ending via the celestial portal on any 3rd stage after looping

you just kinda tap out and take the win without ending on a final boss. it was the only real way to end a run back in the day before any final bosses were added. its got a special synergy with the fealty tho

[tribal kettle]

okay interesting, i havent beated a single end boss and i have about 15 hours in, theres a lot im trying to learn

[quasi crystal]

it's worth it to obliterate at least once

[tribal kettle]

what happens when you do that

[full apex]

theres a character unlock tied to obliterating. no beads or anything special, just doing it in general

so celestial portal on stage 8 would be the easiest way to do it

[tribal kettle]

okay nice

what is the best loadout start for artificer? i just started using her and she seems like a cool character, but i dont wanna do the challenges for the unlocks if they arent worth it

[full apex]

all default is probably best

alt m1 scales nicely with proc items but default also works with ignition tank and is better early

[tribal kettle]

is the alt R better than flamethrower?

[full apex]

its a pretty significant damage and proc loss, but its more evasive

ion surge is easier to use so a lot of people like it, but if you use it well flamethrower is probably just better

its probably worth trying out

[vale quartz]

Which is better flurry or strafe for huntress

[marble osprey]

Strafe is generally better, you need a lot of crit before flurry becomes better

[full apex]

doesnt take much crit for flurry to outperform damage wise, but if you dont get crit it feels kinda bad

[tribal kettle]

alright thanks

[full apex]

also flurry is always worse early on when no items, and huntress already has pretty rough damage so you could argue the tempo strafe gives is more beneficial. but ig you could also argue the change isnt really tremendous enough to be a big deal in the full purview of her kit

flurry is like 21% crit to be better dps, 26 to be better pps, but the total damage dps for like atg or uke scales more slowly and takes till like 81 or 86 i dont rember.

[cursive compass]

Isn't it 41% crit to outdps strafe on average?

[cursive compass]

Huh, so it is

[full apex]

i think with some of the sots items you can technically break free from the multiple of 5 +1 crit grid lol, but this should still be good enough

[cursive compass]

Very good to know

[full apex]

the proc dps in this sheet is broken so i didnt screenshot it as well but it should just be dps x proc coeff. so at 81% its 791.5x0.7 for 554, compared to strafe at 543, which is why the requirement for specifically total damage dps is much higher

[cursive compass]

Ah, I see

Would that be multiplied by the average dps increase of specific items to get the average dps with those items included, then?

Like ATG being +30%

[full apex]

stuff like watch or etc affect everything so those are universal, but then yea the pdps would combine with the specific proc you are looking at for the final expected dps from that proc

[cursive compass]

Thats an interesting spreadsheet, it's awesome seeing proper number crunching

Especially with how contentious some numbers are in the community

[full apex]

yea ive got lots of fun sheets haha, been collecting them over the years as stuff is added and i wanna test or log it

some stuff like the clover or equipment cdr calc continue to prove quite useful. the clover one is pretty applicable to non-ror2 stuff as well which is nice

[cursive compass]

I'd love to get some numbers and graphs to actually numerically compare abilities

The amount of ability arguments in the community is insane when they can be number crunched and compared directly a lot of the time

[full apex]

yea a lot of stuff isnt too bad to compare

the real tough ones come when ideal vs realistic are gapped or when situational/skill stuff is a big deal

[hazy rune]

is there a way to increase the chance to get a logbook when killing an enemy? i know 57 leaf clover helps reroll item chances but i wasnt sure if that counted for logbook.

[full apex]

it does count for the logbooks!

its almost exclusively for item or ability chance effects, so like not shrines or chests, but enemy log books and elite aspects are exceptions

[hazy rune]

57 leaf clover can help with elite aspects?

[full apex]

its 1% for normal enemies and 3% for bosses, so stacking clovers can help a lot actually

[full apex]

it can! they are quite rare by default tho so its still rare even with a few rerolls

[hazy rune]

thats so cool thank you

[sand helm]

Any tips for huntress

[hazy rune]

Take advantage of her blinks to distance yourself from enemies as she has a lower health max then most characters

[quasi crystal]

your m2 is stronger than you think
if you havent already go for unlocking her alternate special arrow rain is horrible

[full apex]

I think m2 is her best damaging ability if you can land all tbe bounces

[quasi crystal]

it is very powerful yeah

[full apex]

It'll chain on 2 targets so thats not too tough either

[quasi crystal]

and luminious shot are really good on her
i think im forgetting another item that boosts m2s

[marble osprey]

Only growth nectar affects crit out of the sots items but that introduces wayyy too much variability so yeah not worth

[lyric nimbus]

Why can't I charge my captain m1? It says "Auto" or sometimes "Charged" but I can't long press it?

[lyric nimbus]

nevermind, it's because of the riskytweaks mod update 😭

[marble osprey]

Although ig playing multiplayer with a seeker could also do it technically it's just not an item lol

[vale quartz]

Is the new dlc worth it?

[tender temple]

If you really want to play the game on the most actual version yes

[lavish jacinth]

Some parts of it are still kinda rough but it's much better than it was, and it's still getting updates

If you want more stuff in vanilla then I'd say it's probably worth it but not a must-have

[crystal bronze]

are the dlcs automatically installed regardless if you own them or not?

[livid wedge]

Yes, purchasing them just basically unlocks them for personal use and gives access to survivors

You're all to play the content without owning it as long as someone in game has it

[crystal bronze]

are you able to play the dlc survivors if someone has a copy?

[livid wedge]

No, you need to have purchased the dlc to use the survivors, even if another player has it

[sand thunder]

How much safer spaces would be a good amount to get for lv 99 monsoon

[steady stone]

at around 60-70 has a 0 second cooldown, if you want immortality

65 stacks for 1 frame, yeah

[rustic estuary]

which survivor would i benefit the most from (good in all content, all-rounder) if i just want to play 1 surv only?

[tender temple]

Commando duh

That's his entire point

[azure junco]

Is a prismatic trial just a normal run with extra steps? Because I’m trying to unlock the scythe

[rustic estuary]

isnt commando kinda dog tho?

[tender temple]

It's a much shorter pre seeded run with a few extra steps to the teleporter(breaking crystals)

[tender temple]

Not really

He has one of the best item scaling in the game while also just being consistent

His most glaring issue is he doesn't have any band procs outside of other items or frag grenades

[hoary sedge]

i mean if you want to just play 1 survivor that's good at everything and can do any of the content fine then probably void fiend but I really wouldn't recommend doing that generally

a big part of the fun is discovering synergies with the items and different survivors kits imo

[tender temple]

False son can do burst, dps procs, and tank all at once

[azure junco]

What is this thing?

[hoary sedge]

it's for a survivor unlock, you have to bring the fuel cell from the back of the drop pod at the start of a run to it in order to unlock rex

[azure junco]

Is newt statue a guaranteed spawn on every stage? Because I’ve been looking for one on the stage three snow storage and can’t find it anywhere.

[slim spoke]

beginner reminder: holding the fuel ARRAY (sorry dintour) will self detonate and kill the player along with any non boss mob in radius
you can live through invincibility tho (most shifts for example)

[full apex]

the vast majority. im not positive about the sots ones but in base game only alt roost can roll 0

which is weird. most others are like 1-2 or 1-3

[slim spoke]

high chance on all stages in fact
only possible exceptions are prime meridian, observertory (technically all void stages), commencement, a moment - both, newt bazaar

[full apex]

its guaranteed on most. though accessible isnt, as theres no checks on whether or not the area is blocked off, like the cave in abyssal or the vault on roost

[slim spoke]

🫡

[azure junco]

Does having a void seed in the level prevent a newt?

[slim spoke]

no
absoulutely not

[full apex]

also yea its funny, it deals 3x your max hp so it will actually nuke bosses pretty hard too haha

you can survive with armor but its not super easy since it goes off at 50% and deals 300%.

its a surprisingly viable strategy to use on engineer, as the turrets inherit it and will nuke things that get them to low hp

[slim spoke]

thought they dont kill bosses

[full apex]

void seed is scene director like chests. newt altars are specifically map toggles, like vaults or bridges or whatever. so its completely disconnected from chest spawns and multiplayer and stuff

[full apex]

its not a point and click kill, it just deals a fuckton of damage lol

[slim spoke]

like i once tried to do it once and it was tis but a scratch

well aside from everything else turning to corpses and skeletons

[slim spoke]

ok apple is a btch for pausing everytime it buffers discord media

im not gonna consider taking it back
tim didnt cook that well at all

[azure junco]

Finally found the statue

[full apex]

i think this was before power mode armor got reduced to 100, because 200 armor is 3x effective health, with half damage from friendly fire it deals exactly 50% total. since mult has 12 more armor and some regen he can survive with 200 armor

[azure junco]

Thank goodness

[scarlet marten]

So a small issue, I was playing multiplayer for the first time since I got the dlc and since the update and it was being really buggy. My friend had no issues while I was having many and I'm not sure if that's just a hosting thing or what. The main issues were my engi mines beeping rapidly and non stop while sitting there (spider mines) and the recycled wasn't doing it's thing unless I was a decent amount away from the item. Idk if those are bugs or what but I thought I'd bring it up.

[full apex]

the mine bug ive experienced

[slim spoke]

iirc the spider mines issue was brought up at the bug report branch
not the recycler bug tho, worth doing

[scarlet marten]

Oh and there was a bug we both saw where the multishops had the closed texture but we hadn't bought anything from them. We could still buy things but we couldn't see what we were buying

[slim spoke]

tip: pinging interactables helps alot

[fickle cargo]

Does ror2 have crash logs? If yes, where do I find them?

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-tech-support message

[fickle cargo]

Thanks, sorry for wrong channel, didn't see tech support

[lavish jacinth]

no worries

[full zephyr]

does the green portal bring me to false son or is it the gold one

[quiet pagoda]

ok quick situation: recently i got a new laptop, and i of course wanted to redownload risk of rain

i noticed ingame theres these panes of light textures common around some maps, and i wanted to ask if anybody knows what these are and if theres a setting that messes with them

they’re usually in any tunnel or transition to another part of map

sometimes they’re a solid slate of white

[lavish jacinth]

green goes to false son

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there's a setting that fixes it, I forget which one it is specifically but I think it's related to shadows or lighting effects

[quiet pagoda]

alrighty ill mess around

i think ill probably just go on my old pc and screenshot the settings lol

ok i copied all of my settings 1 to 1 and its still here

alright i have absolutely no clue

[lavish jacinth]

it might be a hardware thing, you'll probably just have to play with settings until you find the specific one that fixes it

I used to get the same thing ages ago, I don't remember what setting caused it anymore but I do know that it can be fixed

[quiet pagoda]

hmm
i messed with each setting in the graphics tab, just sitting there turning each one by one waiting for a change

it doesn't seem to be disappearing

do you know what this type of panel or plane is called so i can search around

[lavish jacinth]

I'm afraid not

if I have time later I'll check it out in my own game and see if I can get the same thing to happen tho

[cursive compass]

The recycler being weird is an ancient non-host player bug, its quite annoying

Jumping makes it semi consistent

[crisp tree]

sup, what happens when I play with a friend that has both dlcs while I don‘t have either? Do I still get access to dlc items or how does it work

[marble osprey]

Yeah you both get access to everything in game, only difference is you can't play the dlc characters. Everything else is unlocked

[crisp tree]

aight bet thanks

[sand helm]

Is there a doc or site I can look at to see what unlocking every item requires?

[frosty reef]

Sobel light setting or something like that does it

[lavish jacinth]

just use the ingame logbook, if you hover over a locked thing it'll tell you how to get it

but the wiki does have them if you prefer that https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Challenges

[livid wedge]

Does the luminous shot lightning have a proc coef?

[lavish jacinth]

I think it's 1.0

[livid wedge]

Nice, thanks

[sand helm]

Is heretic a permanent unlock?

[latent oyster]

No

[quasi crystal]

Are you on PC there are mods that make it so

[wintry fjord]

what gender is commando?

[lavish jacinth]

male

[wintry fjord]

oki

[quasi crystal]

has anyone ever looked into the void field's director? Like hwat drives it to pick what enemies? Because it can pick elder lemurians quite early and stuff like elder wisps pretty late

[full zephyr]

what happens if i offer items to that shrine after killing the false son?

or is that like the teal portal thatll just end my run safely

[marble osprey]

It'll end the run and then that item will be in the artifact of rebirth

[wintry fjord]

it kills you but you get the item next game

[full zephyr]

ohh i gotcha i dont even have any artifacts yet thank you lol

[marble osprey]

Kills you is misleading, you still win the run

[full zephyr]

yea

[marble osprey]

That's how you unlock that artifact, unlike all the other ones

[full zephyr]

Ooo I see

[tall apex]

will the game ever get crossplay?

[livid wedge]

It's more likely since they unified the codebase but I still wouldn't hold my breath

[wintry fjord]

Let's hope

[azure junco]

Is unlocking acrid easier or harder then unlocking void fiend?

[steady stone]

Probably acrid. You can do void fields at any time (through bazaar), while voidling is not only known to be difficult sometimes, and would take longer. The alternative for viend, wave 50 of simulacrum, isn't any faster

Like you could probably get acrid stage 1 or 2, i forgot if it counts as a stage progression