ror2-game-questions

[scenic raven]

it sucks to try and see what items are what

[opal willow]

oops

[dusky raven]

My b

I had 27 one time and no elite drops

[opal willow]

i thought you meant 98 more, you need 98 total

what does this mean ^

[dusky raven]

TLDR whispers’ secondary effect is underpowered and basically unnoticeable

[opal willow]

👍

[scenic raven]

any tips on how to get the Newly Hatched Zoea

[opal willow]

crab

but also, why do you want it? its dogshit

[scenic raven]

to fill out every item in the logbook :/

[opal willow]

fair

[dusky raven]

It’s the boss drop of the crab so either get lucky and have it as tele boss or use the tricorn on it

[scenic raven]

does it have to be the teleporter boss for me to use the tricorn on it?

[dusky raven]

Void Devastator specifically

[dusky raven]

Nope any naturally spawned one

So from void seeds or void family events or void Locus

[scenic raven]

W

[steady stone]

Stage 3 of colossus path (treetop stage). If I take newt in hopes of gilded coast seer, will I be able to go back to the path of the colossus, or is it locked like vields? Trying to get FS

[lavish jacinth]

Nah, you can get back to it

[opal willow]

ah

[full apex]

Its very funny if you can get a ton of it, which isn't super uncommon if you late game larva

Ofc 90% of the time the regular boss items will be better, and it's high risk, but constantly getting huge void chain nukes on the whole stage is really funny to try at least once

[fierce ivy]

yo I found a ghost of myself (presumably from the Happiest Mask item) that killed me, how could this have ocurred?

or how would a ghost of myself even spawn if no enemies have the Happiest Mask item

also there's a bunch of a turrets from someone I'm playing with that has the Happiest Mask item, could they have turned against us and done that?

[dusky raven]

Any artifacts enabled?

[fierce ivy]

Artifact of Command but that's it

[fierce ivy]

Update: I just realized what happened - A Twisted Elite (1.0 proc chance to reflect 2.5% of attacker's max health) killed an Engineer Turret, and since the Turret (with a Happiest Mask) technically destroyed itself via an enemy, it became an enemy ghost turret and then killed me and created a ghost of me

[azure crag]

How did you die

[azure crag]

Wow thats actually insane wtf

[gusty mulch]

In the death screen, it shows up as a turret from an engineer

[fierce ivy]

⬆️

[gusty mulch]

Seemed like the turrets made by clones don't despawn, F

[scenic raven]

when your 41 stages into a run looking for a overloaded work as commando and you realize you have the artifact of honor on...

[scenic raven]

dang, the seekers of the storm maps are ass

[cedar pine]

How do i deal with stone titans laser properly?

Also any tips on playing the 2 survivors of the void characters they look hella fun especially void fiend

[steady stone]

I yapped about viend a good bit here
#ror2-game-questions message

For railgunner, go for burst. Things like will always be your best friend to take care of the larger units, and your unscoped m1 isnt bad for wisps. Things like also help with hordes and wisp especially goes well with crowbar.

For a stone titan laser, it obviously can't go behind cover, but also if you circle him really close it won't be able to hit. Like go from front side of him to back side.

I can elaborate on any character specifics too, just @ me. I'll be cooking for a few mins so won't check here manually.

[cedar pine]

Ty

[quasi crystal]

So is artificer pushing things backwards with ice spear intended? I hope it is because it's funny as shit
I don't remember this ability causing targets to zoom backwards before sots

[tender temple]

It wasn't intended

As you could guess

[sharp hare]

if i host a game while owning survivor of the void while my friend dosen't can he still join

[steady stone]

Yes. If the host has the DLC you can play with it, however he cannot unlock SOTV things nor will he have the characters.

[sharp hare]

ok ok

[peak jacinth]

btw if you get a role #roles you can embed links

Voidtouched (purple) enemies apply a debuff called collapse which is essentially a delayed hit. For enemies this does a ton of damage to the player which is what killed you here. That’s what the red and black circle on you was.

np, usually you need to prioritize the voidtouched enemies because they can just suddenly kill you like this

always things to discover in ror2

[celest kayak]

does anyone know why it simply wont let me play? clicking any gamemode just has a black screen before fading back to the main menu

[scenic raven]

do hermit crabs still spawn on titanic plains after stage 6 after i finish charging the teleporter?

[mental sorrel]

They should

[daring cloak]

They do not

Enemies stop spawning naturally after the tp event is over

[scenic raven]

dang, also whats the best way to get a overloading worm?

i redact my statement, i just got one

[lavish jacinth]

iirc that's one of the many bugs caused by having crossplay enabled, turn it off and see what happens

or it could be mod related

[peak jacinth]

there’s a mod called Discord Rich Presence that used to do that as well

[daring cloak]

Ok ik this isnt really a question that can be answered but why have I never seen anyone mention that transcendence completely counters twisteds?

Something like that just seems like very important info if you wanted to loop

[celest kayak]

wtf thats probably it… so bizzare. thank you

[peak jacinth]

maybe everyone in the server is secretly a REX player and they don’t wanna tell anyone

[lavish jacinth]

I think like 80% of PC-exclusive bugs are caused by crossplay or mods lol

[lavish jacinth]

honestly it's a little surprising that it does, you'd think it'd be the opposite.
But then again this is SotS, so...

usually stuff that deals a % of your health will take shields into account

[peak jacinth]

well it’s sometimes hit or miss right, since fall damage and % healing don’t

this just happens to be an unexpected case where it doesn’t

[lavish jacinth]

it's also possible that most people just haven't tested it in the first place, I think most people's experience with twisteds is having one or two bullshit deaths to them, and then avoiding them like the plague afterwards

[lavish jacinth]

true, although %healing makes sense at least

[peak jacinth]

yea I think both of those cases make sense tbh, which is just why people don’t expect it to counter twisteds: it doesn’t really make sense

[scenic raven]

best way to find a scrapper?

[daring cloak]

look with your eyes

[scenic raven]

dawg in 25 stages ive only found 1,

[daring cloak]

Try to get used to how everything looks so you can best spot a scrapper from far away

[scenic raven]

im so desperate for one rn

[peak jacinth]

yea there’s not like a trick to finding them, they’ll spawn or they won’t. 25 stages for 1 is impossibly bad luck so you probably just didn’t check everywhere for one

[scenic raven]

I have, and with a radar scanner, all 25

I just happened to find that one before I had the yellow item i needed to scrap

My god, I just found one

all items found baby

[dusky raven]

Chests, scrappers, and items all look the same with radar scanner rn

[scenic raven]

only the tri-shop things and scrappers

[dusky raven]

Nope trishops and printers look like chests

[copper sable]

look harder

🤷‍♂️

[scenic raven]

and printers

forgot to mention that with mine

[livid wedge]

Trishops don't look like chests with scanner, er, not the same icon

[dusky raven]

Even though gearbox made a ton of new icons they just forgot to use em

[livid wedge]

Chests have a bag icon and trishops have 3 chest icons

[scenic raven]

Thats what I was saying, printers, trishops, equipment chests, and scrappers look the same with radar, chests look completely different

[livid wedge]

Scrappers also use a bag icon

Not a chest icon

[dusky raven]

No, scrappers use the bag icon just the same as chests do

Chests don’t use the chest icon it was broken in the devotion update

[scenic raven]

excuse my randomness, ive been looking for a scrapper for an hour and a half

[dusky raven]

Yeah sometimes luck just slaps you in the face

Scrapperless runs are real

[glacial knoll]

Radar Scanners pretty useless yeah especially since chests don't even show up as chests

[scenic raven]

i found more cleansing pods than scrappers in that run

[lavish jacinth]

that seems really unlikely

[livid wedge]

I only find cleansing pools when I don't have lunar items

[daring cloak]

Same

[lavish jacinth]

it's hard to calculate the exact odds of interactable spawns because of spawn credit stuff, but just from experience I'd guess that at least 40-50% of stages have scrappers

[scenic raven]

hey in the logbook, is collectables like the monster and enviornment logs?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[livid wedge]

Not for me

Usually when I get them, it's like 2-4 per stage and then none for a few

[daring cloak]

In my runs it feels more like 50% chance for the run to have at least one scrapper on every stage and 50% for no scrapper the entire run

[lavish jacinth]

idk, I see them decently often

[scenic raven]

whats the chance of a monster log dropping again?

[lavish jacinth]

they're definitely not rare

[lavish jacinth]

1% for normal monsters, 3% for bosses. Affected by luck

[livid wedge]

It's so dirty when there are two not even 20m apart

Like bruh

[glacial knoll]

eh about twice as likely as a green printer

[scenic raven]

so just get as many clovers as possible and go ham?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[scenic raven]

cue the doom music

[daring cloak]

Ideally also use the artifact swarms

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[scenic raven]

imma use swarms, command, and sacrifice

maybe not sacrifice

[lavish jacinth]

so like... between a white printer and a green printer, basically? that sounds about right

[glacial knoll]

weights are mostly gibberish but like yeah sure

[dusky raven]

Red printers can be stage 4? Or is it 4 stages have to have passed

[scenic raven]

50x sale star + red chest 🤤

[daring cloak]

Stage 5 and up

[glacial knoll]

stages completed 4 so yeah 5

[celest kayak]

you cant say that 💔

[glacial knoll]

shows printers as chests and chests as bags

[dusky raven]

Bruh gearbox finally made ping icons for printers and just decided they wouldn’t put them in

[glacial knoll]

it's not really fitting as a ping icon but yeah a custom icon for Inspecting but not one for pings is absurd

made one for scrappers too

[noble cipher]

you guys think I should get SOTS?
just under 90 hours play time, about half of that with SOTV

[solid nova]

eh, wait til phase 1 of the fixes are out

items are the most important part of the game and thankfully theyre tackling that first

[hoary sedge]

yeah not really worth it rn, the maps are good, the ost slaps, and false son is fun but the rest of it needs to be touched up pretty badly

if the item reworks are good then it'll probably be worth picking up though

[dry terrace]

do you need to get all 3 items for chef on a single run on can you do it over multiple runs

[livid wedge]

Ask 3 in the same run

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure it can be done in multiple runs, can't it?

[dusky raven]

Yeah doesn’t have to be the same run

[scenic raven]

it can be in same or separate runs, but if you run it with the artifact of command its easy to get in one run

[scenic raven]

If I'm say in 'A moment, whole' how do i leave after killing the boss?

[lavish jacinth]

open the bag that it drops

[scenic raven]

I did

[lavish jacinth]

oh
well then you're stuck

that ending is kinda bugged at the moment

[scenic raven]

there's no way out?

[lavish jacinth]

normally after you open the bag it would slowly fade to black and the run would end

[scenic raven]

welp there goes 21 clovers

i was going for monster logs

[lavish jacinth]

well, if it makes a difference, going to AMH is a run ender either way, there's no way to get back to normal stages

[scenic raven]

wish I knew that

[lavish jacinth]

well, at least you do now, I guess

[full apex]

yea moment whole, obliterate, mith, and voidling, all lock you into an ending and you cant return.

a moment fractured by itself doesnt, you can bail still, and false son also doesnt end.

[lavish jacinth]

and tbf, in order to reach AMH you essentially have to end the run anyway by obliterating

[quasi crystal]

is ror2 crossplay between console and switch

No

[remote stump]

Can't you glass frog out of mithrix?

[lavish jacinth]

glass frog takes you straight to voidling, so it's still a dead end

[remote stump]

Oath was that an sotv update or did it always end?

[full apex]

it did nothing pre sotv

i dont think you could interact at all it was just an easter egg

[remote stump]

Ooft I might've had a mod that did something for a bit

Idk

So I can only do 3 bosses per run? 😦

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[red estuary]

Question about egocentrism:
if I have multiple stacks will they start changing my items faster?

[lavish jacinth]

No

[red estuary]

damn

[red estuary]

Can artifact keys be turned into egocentrism?

[formal dagger]

are the empathy cores a reference to the twins from terraria or are they only a portal reference?

[agile crystal]

portal

honestly a bit of both

mostly portal though

[wary lintel]

is it worth buying ror2 again on the deck just for mods?

[flint galleon]

does sojourn proc stuff like razorwire and noxious thorn?

[glacial knoll]

Nox Thorn technically no but Razorwire definitely

[flint galleon]

thanks! seeker is really fun

why am i not getting any items from the void fields cells? is it like a change from one of the dlcs or is it a bug?

[steady stone]

There's been a few bug reports filed on it

[flint galleon]

ah

[flint galleon]

so uh, can i just not do prismatic trials anymore with survivors of the void

[steady stone]

Mods disable prismatic trials

Since it has a leaderboard

[flint galleon]

ah

[wicked cliff]

aye is harmony aspect vanilla ?

i got it from killing mitrix

[steady stone]

no

besides logbooks, the only thing you can get from him are lunar coins

[steady stone]

is there an easier way to get other than just looking around and checking lunar seers? something with the path of the colossus maybe?

trying to get FS

[peak jacinth]

if a Halcyon shrine spawns in colossus route it’ll have a gold orb instead of a green one

so ideally you’d go colossus route then leave on stage 3 if you don’t have a good orb, then rinse repeat

[steady stone]

i can't continue the run after doing FS, can I?

also just to clarify - the gold orb can just be a random spawn during colossus?

[steady stone]

oh, nvm on this part

[versed marsh]

has anyone else been getting this bug where you get disconnected from your friend's lobby but when you try to reconnect you're stuck in the lobby

[analog brook]

Easiest strat for unlocking FS is just finding a golden altar on stage 2 or 3 maps

[steady stone]

yeah but that's the hard part

[analog brook]

When you finish gilded coats it spawns a green portal to the equivalent stage for PotC

[steady stone]

i havent seen a gold portal all day other than after i already beat fs at the halcyon altars

[analog brook]

If you use command and sac it’ll be common

Also don’t go to PotC when trying to unlock FS unless it’s through the golden altar

Just take normal path until you see one

[steady stone]

why? i can just leave on treetop

[analog brook]

I haven’t had much luck seeing golden altars on PotC and I think you can only go there once per run but both of these could just be me not knowing how it fully works

Because you could just loop up to an altar stress free and then do it without bothering with the path before that point

But if you beat false son then yea you can’t return that I am actually sure of

[steady stone]

looping has been a problem with twisteds though ngl

all but 2 out of like 20 deaths today to them

[quasi crystal]

Is there a way to make my items show up like this with more info

I also heard you could get like your stats on your screen but cant figure it ou

Out

[daring cloak]

Its from mods

[quasi crystal]

Ohhhhh

Ok

[lavish jacinth]

if you enable inspect item in settings you can get something similar without mods

it's under the umbrella settings thing on the first page

[oblique cape]

What would people say is the best items you can get for captain

[lavish jacinth]

nothing too special, for the most part you build him like commando with procs and bleed being your big the main thing to get

[oblique cape]

So like tri tips and lenses?

[lavish jacinth]

although can be pretty fnuuy with his utilities, especially diablo. and each stack of lets him get one extra use of his primary beacon per stage

[lavish jacinth]

yep, and any other on-hit stuff. Attack speed is also pretty nice with the shotgun

[quasi crystal]

Attack speed also has the bonus of helping his passive

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, and are worth getting if you plan to do voidling or twisted scav, since his airstrikes don't work in hidden realms. and works really well with the shotgun in general if you aren't using beacons much

[oblique cape]

Would you guys use lights out over desperado for bandit in monsoon solo?

To reset abilities and chain then

[lavish jacinth]

nah, desperado is pretty much always better

bandit's cooldowns are already short and the stackable damage on desperado is way more useful, especially once you get to the point where enemies are too tanky to consistently get lights out chains

[slow cloak]

Heya! Considering getting the game, and wanted to ask:
I am a big fan of gimmick playstyles, and I noticed the game has 2 DLCs. Is RoR2 one of the games that locks a lot of the more out there mechanics behind it's DLC's, with the main game without DLC's just having the more normal, or relatively normal, stuff?

[quasi crystal]

Dlc1 has a lot of useful stuff locked behind it and 2 fun survivors

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, if you want to do some of the more memey strats then Survivors of the Void is the DLC you want

[quasi crystal]

Dlc2 you can pass on for now if you like fun off Meta play styles it offers nothing of value there

[slow cloak]

okayyy got it i don't got the mons to afford the dlcs lol

thanks for the advice

[quasi crystal]

All the items are boring or useless

[lavish jacinth]

there's a series of big patches coming for DLC2 that's (hopefully) going to fix the items and other issues, but yeah, not worth it until that's out

[lavish jacinth]

fwiw, everything except DLC2 is on sale on steam right now, so if you're interested in the game at all then now's a good time to get it (if you're on PC)

[bright pond]

what's chat's opinion on Acrid's bite skill

[lavish jacinth]

if you like playing melee Acrid then it's good

[bright pond]

Hmm

For me it's like

I can always sprint cancel into Acrid's 3rd attack for regen, and I can still just point-blank vomit for the DoT

So all I'd be running this for is the extra instant damage

And up front damage doesn't seem like Acrid's thing

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's still more regen, and more damage is always good

there isn't really a ton of nuance to it, using it is just up to playstyle

[noble cipher]

trying out rex for the first time, what loadout would you guys recommned?

[lavish jacinth]

all the self-damaging skills

[noble cipher]

damn, was hoping I didnt have to unlock bramble volley
seems like tons of rng in getting aqueduct with dunestrider

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's annoying

although pretty easy to do once you already get one, just lead it over to a pit and spam utility at them until it works

disperse isn't too bad at least, it's better for mobility

if you're wondering, the alt m2 is a bit worse on average but not unusable, personally I think it's more fun. Also very silly with since it doesn't care about attack speed

alt special is pure trash, don't bother. Legitimately the only ability in the game I never recommend using even as a playstyle choice lmao

[noble cipher]

first aqueduct in the >30 minutes I've been resetting for this challenge
beetle queen :(

[lavish jacinth]

that's how it goes

[lavish jacinth]

you can use lunar seers to semi-guarantee aqueduct btw, just turn off sotv if you have it so that aphelian doesn't show up

[noble cipher]

FINALLY

woooooo

[lavish jacinth]

nifty

[echo pawn]

How do i know which alt ability is worth using?

[lavish jacinth]

just try it and see what you think of it

[nimble minnow]

Can anyone tell me some good items for loader?

[lavish jacinth]

total damage procs are also always good

[nimble minnow]

Ah thanks

Just started using loader cus looked fun to swing around like spider man

[lavish jacinth]

indeed

[echo pawn]

Why do some of the alt abilities do less damage or just worse in general than the regular one?

[lavish jacinth]

depends on the ability, but usually they have some other upside that makes them worth it

[nimble minnow]

I think its just to offer more variety to play style

[echo pawn]

oh okay

[lavish jacinth]

in some cases there is a "better" skill if you really wanna be optimal, but honestly, just about every ability in the game is good enough to use if it fits your playstyle

[echo pawn]

I guess that makes sense

[quasi crystal]

There are very few abilities that are actually objectively worse than their default

Directive: harvest and laser burst are like the only ones I can think of

[noble cipher]

when we say objectively worse what are we talking?

because long run poison 100% beats blight on acrid

but early game you can make an argument for it

[lavish jacinth]

as in they're so bad that there's no reason to take them even for the sake of playstyle

directive:harvest removes a core part of rex's kit and replaces it with a healing ability on a survivor that already has multiple healing abilities

it's bad enough that people don't even take it on e8, even though tangling growth is really risky with the permanent damage

[noble cipher]

would bandit's blast fall under that?

[lavish jacinth]

nah, not at all

the rifle has infinite range, no falloff and better proc potential

less raw damage is its downside, but it's perfectly good if you like playing bandit at mid-long range

[noble cipher]

but why not just use desperado or lights out?

[lavish jacinth]

they still have limited range, and a cooldown

the rifle gives you steady damage at any range, at the cost of close-range damage

if you're looping it's arguably even better than the shotgun because of how strong procs are lategame, and malachite enemies making close range fights more dangerous

[lavish jacinth]

and like I said, playstyle is an important factor too

a better example would be commando's roll

which IS pretty much entirely worse than slide, but some people just prefer it over slide anyway for one reason or another, and it's not bad enough to not use

[calm steeple]

I was playing a god run and got the birb as soon as I got them I started taking damage every second every stage no matter what how does that happen cuz I got them before and it didn’t do that

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's how heretic works. She's got negative health regen so you need to constantly heal

if it didn't do it before, you've might've had a few stacks of or cancelling it out

[wicked cliff]

anyone ave tips on playing railgunner better ? x-x im struggle to aim m2 on enemies like lemurian , blind pest/vermin and other small fast monster

[lavish jacinth]

its probably not what you want to hear, but that's kinda just something you have to practice

you might find it easier to aim in third person first and then quickscope, and it helps to have a general idea of how enemies move, but that also just comes with experience

[wicked cliff]

ah thanks

[slim spoke]

its not a bad idea to rely on m1 while repositioning

[quasi crystal]

Commando roll is used by quirky TM players I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about how they use it to trimp or in the case of sots, use it as a bootleg suppressed trespass

[astral kite]

I'm coming back to ror2 after a while, and I'm wondering, how the hell do I build loader and make her effective in general

[vale cove]

this might sound odd, but your profile picture is comedically uncomfortable, what is it from?

[white oak]

if you get enough cooldown reduction roll can give you infinite airtime which is funny. other than that yeah...its jank

[white oak]

I usually focus on items that improve your big burst damage from charged punches. the bands are a big one

[quasi crystal]

is funny if you use lunars

But even funnier is if you use the alt gauntlet it's one of the few skills not killed by

[quasi crystal]

This is not exhaustive pretty much all the universal good items are good on her too

[noble cipher]

I'm not a big fan of crowbar myself on loader

one shotting bosses is nice in concept, but in an actual run I never end up with enough crowbars to do more than say 15% of the bosses health

then the crowbars become useless, and I would have been better with a flat damage increase

[steady stone]

It's not so much crowbar alone, but combining it with other things

let me go fact check some damage numbers and ill be back on this

So ignoring the heavy trait the punch can do 2700 damage
Kjaros band does 300% total damage, so 8100
2700 + 8100 = 10,800
now, total damage isn't affected by crowbar unless it hits an enemy above the health pool (this is important because kjaros is also aoe)
so assuming you have 1 crowbar, it's an extra 75% damage on the 2700, + the original 8100 = 12,825 (if i did that right)
against an enemy that is still above 90%, the kjaros will also get boosted, meaning 14,175 off of that for the enemies near what you hit
I will say another big thing:
Since if you kill the boss, the ATG will find a new target, it will then also be affected by crowbar

actually, kjaros will be a little less
the 300% is over time

That, and 2 crowbars is already better than a crit, yet you can still crit with them

basically there's this, but think about aoe is all

[steady stone]

actually, i think just 5 crowbars recreates the damage from 1 crowbar and a kjaros

assuming kjaros doesn't boost from crowbar

[livid wedge]

It does not

[steady stone]

well it can

but assuming it doesnt here

[livid wedge]

Not unless that crowbar attack didn't reduce them to below 90%

[steady stone]

what i meant basically

[livid wedge]

Carry on then

[steady stone]

not trying to be rude btw
just in combat

[calm steeple]

Got it I did have a bunch of so that’s prop why I did take a screenshot of both times lemme find them later

[indigo field]

is there a way to increase the damage a beacon does when it drops (captain's)

[steady stone]

i mean yeah it should be boosted like any other damage

they can't crit

but like wouldnt be bad

yap yap yap from the wiki

[calm steeple]

If I beat the game as bandit and don’t have his second style yet and don’t get it is it because I turned into the bird mid game or cause I was on easy mode

[flint prawn]

birb AND easy mode. You get the skin on Monsoon

[flint galleon]

how does attack speed affect railgunner?

[bright pond]

What ultimately decides the dps from poision if gummy acrid and actual acrid both apply poison to the same enemy

Since gummy acrid has a way higher base damage, that would affect the minimum and maximum damage

[hoary sedge]

affects m1 normally and makes the active reload bar bigger for default m2 and iirc affects alt m2 like normal, and increases charge speed of both overcharges

[lavish jacinth]

Iirc it works off of the most recently applied instance of poison

[flint galleon]

what happens when you get visions of heresy on railgunner? can you still use the railgun mode from her secondary?

[lavish jacinth]

Yep, her secondary works just fine. It actually has a unique interaction with her hud

[grizzled merlin]

Hey, I'm having MP latency issues (>1 minute) we've tried crossplay enabled and disabled (we're both steam) but are stuck getting it to work. Any pointers on futher troubleshooting?

[lavish jacinth]

Do the people you're playing with live near you? Ror2's multiplayer is peer2peer so if you're far away or have bad internet, there's gonna be a lot of latency

And there have been a lot of multiplayer related bugs on the current patch so it could be because of that, not sure tho

[grizzled merlin]

rtt between us is 150ms, we're having 2 orders of magniture more latency, so I don't think thats the reason?

[calm steeple]

Oh ok I thought it meant either beat the game in any difficulty or obliterate on monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah the wording is a little ambiguous. And you can't get mastery skins for winning as heretic because she's technically a different character

[lavish jacinth]

Hmm. #ror2-tech-support miiiight be able to help then (check pins first), unless it's just a bug from the current patch.

[lavish jacinth]

nothing, it's some AI-generated nonsense

I don't even remember what the prompt was anymore, but I distinctly remember that this was nothing like what I put in, which made it really funny when this thing showed up

I just like having weird cursed images as a pfp lol

I used to use this little fella, but even I got sick of looking at him after a while

[quasi crystal]

I would have thought it was some rage comic lol

[tranquil goblet]

How do i fix this? Every time I join my friend and boots up the character screen I get this screen and this happens when I'm host as well

[lavish jacinth]

do either of you have crossplay or mods enabled?

[tranquil goblet]

No

Figured it out

He had a vpn on

[lavish jacinth]

ah

this is the first I've heard of that causing issues, but good to know

[quasi crystal]

Does nukahanas do flat damage or do the skulls get affected by items

[somber locust]

how many director credits does the halcyon shrine cost?

[quasi crystal]

75 iirc

Or was it 50

I think 50

[lavish jacinth]

it deals 25% of your maximum hp, but it does get affected by items

[full apex]

Basically all of your damage is affected by modifiers like focus crystal and stuff

But since it doesn't use base im pretty sure, stuff that boosts base wont help. So glass for example is problematic

Lower hp means lower damage skulls with no boost to compensate

[lavish jacinth]

yep

I didn't even know about that weird interaction with corpsebloom

that information will never ever be useful to me, and yet I'm still glad that I know it now

[winged dagger]

is there a way to reduce the cooldown of heretics main attack?

[tender temple]

I thought it was that guy from ghostbusters

[lavish jacinth]

any cooldown reduction works

etc.

it still has a 0.5s minimum like other cooldowns tho

[severe shard]

do lockboxes spawn on gilded coast?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[fresh umbra]

Why is it still possible to softlock in the new artifact reliquary

Seekers of the bugs

I was having a good captain run too

[full apex]

something interesting, is that nkuhanas tries to fire any time you have enough healing in the pool even if theres nothing available

which means that, if you heal a bunch before combat, it will have nothing ready

but corpsebloom causing healing to be over time means even healing while out of range, the healing can bleed over into actual combat

the massive dps down is probably not worth tho... 1/10 dps for 2x total potential and some OoC storage is eh

also means nkuhanas will always drain in 1s since it tries 10/s and drains 10% per. so normally without consistent healing youll basically never benefit from out of combat healing on it

also completely useless fun fact: it checks for the pool being >0 not >10%, so even 1 single point of healing from base will fire a skull, but it still does -10% each time so it goes to -9/10% and you still need to fill back to 0 to fire again.

fnnuy

[lavish jacinth]

funky

I knew about it not actually "storing" healing and just wasting it as soon as you had more than 10%, kind of a shame since it might be at least a little more useful if it did

[full apex]

it would definitely be interesting. would be storing basically 2.5x your health in damage to unload when something got in range

its probably easy to change with a mod, just either dont spend or refund the pool when it fails to fire

[lavish jacinth]

funny how it's basically the inverse of Aegis's problem, where it doesn't synergize well with in-combat heals that are usually stronger, but if you try to build up barrier before a fight then it'll probably be gone by the time you actually need it

[full apex]

scaling the pool could also be interesting for stacking

i think thats most impactful for corpsebloom, but still storing extra healing just means capping faster... though it fires so fast its not usually a huge deal

is kinda funny that its just a direct downgrade to rejuv rack tho to stack lol

well
kinda
mostly
they would technically multiply each other but like more raw healing is probably better than slightly more in the pool

[bright pond]

Asking here, the correct channel: Does the max-health scaled damage of poison benefit from shaped glass and other base-damage boosting items?

I presume it only affects the minimum and maximum possible tick damage of poison

[livid wedge]

It doesn't from shaped glass because that boosts base damage but does from everything else

[bright pond]

Yee

I specified base damage

[ruby token]

Is cross platform in the future of ror?

[livid wedge]

Ah, then no. It does technically have a min and max based on base damage but you are unlikely to reach either of those

[bright pond]

I thought you kinda regularly hit the minimum damage with "small" enemies

[livid wedge]

Not that I've heard

[livid wedge]

The minimum is very low

Lemme find it

[onyx harbor]

yo im looping and did an artifact but no exit portal spawned, anything I can do?

[livid wedge]

I believe you're out of luck

[onyx harbor]

rip was a good run

[livid wedge]

@bright pond

[bright pond]

Did you collect the actual artifact

[lavish jacinth]

bulwark's ambry is softlock city at the moment

[onyx harbor]

yeah I did

[bright pond]

Oh no

[onyx harbor]

first time ive ever ran into this

[lavish jacinth]

if you collected the artifact then you should still have it unlocked, at least.
Unless that's borked too, I forget

[onyx harbor]

I already have all the artifacts, but me and my friend forgot to align tp when looping so we went to do it through an artifact

[lavish jacinth]

oh, welp

[onyx harbor]

rip to the 13 57-leaf clovers

[steady stone]

This is also a problem with A Moment, Whole, from what I've heard, so try to avoid that too.

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[bright pond]

damn

[full apex]

the minimum is quite easy to hit on a lot of stuff for quite a while

[livid wedge]

Yeah, my bad, I thought it was lower

[full apex]

you can actually tell pretty easy

since acrid base is 15+3 33% per tick is 5+1

so basically level +4 is the minimum possible

damage boosting stuff like focus crystal ofc will complicate it... but its a good rough estimate

[zinc frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3TWQzUPgY Really old video but I kinda want to know

[full apex]

best guess is desync?. the pests had time to shoot so if you were a client its possible they shot for the host before they did for you, and you died when the client caught up. part of why lotta glass is very risky

i watched in half speed a few times and i have no other ideas... if you were in solo you could see what killed you to have a better idea, but there we'll never know for sure haha

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that was definitely multiplayer desync. If you go frame by frame you can actually see the moment they start shooting, but the projectile doesn't actually appear

I hope you weren't expecting OSP to save you, lol

[steady stone]

does the halycon thing that gives you 3 items just not spawn sometimes?

[lavish jacinth]

the one on prime meridian? or from halcyon shrines

[steady stone]

oh nevermind this is so funny hold on

it doesnt check for objects above

[lavish jacinth]

lmao

[steady stone]

i saw it flying past

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, halcyon shrines should always give one afaik

[steady stone]

yeah i was hoping it didnt spawn inside the chance shrine

[steady stone]

is there a tell for when false son is going to do his laser?

that shit just instakills me

[lavish jacinth]

iirc there's a blue glow around his eye when he's about to fire it

it doesn't give you much time to react but it's better than nothing

[steady stone]

unfortunate

lost the run i was gonna get on, but that might help

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you kinda just have to stay near the pillars and be ready to hide at any moment

[steady stone]

[lavish jacinth]

good luck with that

at least you've got iframes

[steady stone]

not with swinds

[lavish jacinth]

his dash does

[steady stone]

i suppose

[lavish jacinth]

not much, but enough to get to a pillar

doing it with loader was a pain too

[quasi crystal]

Seeker I got 1 afterburner already; the cauldrons on commencement are alien head and nukahana I have 15 green scrap, I'm not using alt secondary, I have 5 wungus
What should I invest in

Monsoon not eclipse

[steady stone]

?

[full apex]

alien head kinda eh imo

nkuhanas would be funny with wungus

[steady stone]

if planula i would say 100% nkuhana

but either could work

[quasi crystal]

No planula just 2 raps and 3 rucklers

[full apex]

5 is uhhhh 10%/s right so thats a skull per second
could just take 3 and get 3 skulls per second ig haha

[flint prawn]

N'kuhana is such a metal item with the flaming skulls of life, I kinda wish it got buffed a bit

[flint galleon]

does disabling an expansion's content also disable the survivors?

[lavish jacinth]

it used to, but I thiiiink it doesn't anymore? I'd have to check

[full apex]

i thought it did but i didnt wanna say cause i cant rember lol

[lavish jacinth]

I swear I heard or saw that it doesn't anymore but I might just have dementia again

[full apex]

it very well may not and im rember old

[quasi crystal]

It definitely doesn't disable sots survivors but I haven't tested sotv

[severe shard]

based

[cedar pine]

How do i get better at the game? Iam at a spot where i feel that i suck ass

[viral cairn]

are you playing on drizzle to help learn the game?

also the more items you unlock the easier your runs will be

[cedar pine]

No

I have quite alot of items unlocked because i played the game quite a bit like 2 ish years ago? But i basically forgot abt everything

As for difficulties im mainly playing monsoon if solo and rainstorm if im playing with my friend

Main issue is start to feel underpowered after the first loop

[analog brook]

Look at how you died and see how you could've avoided placing yourself in that situation and seeing where you went wrong
Also if you arnt, full looting blows rushing stages out of the water

[cedar pine]

I tend to do that when i can but theres sometimes where i genuinely dont know how i died

[flint prawn]

At later loops it can be anything from a stray Contraption/Elder Lemurian hit to getting killed by your own proc chains because a Twisted Elite decided to spawn. Not to mention the bug that involve you dying to your own upward momentum etc.

[cedar pine]

I had no idea the proc chain thing could happen 😭

[daring cloak]

Because it cannot

Oh wait no yeah it kind of does

Its pretty much just twisted enemies countering builds that use frequent hits

[slim spoke]

aoe aswell

[daring cloak]

Though tbh twisteds are pretty easy to deal with only requiring a few raps or transcendence to make them and their reflects pretty much worthless

[real sphinx]

Nkuhana + Weeping gungus

[calm steeple]

What’s the easiest way to get bandits alt skin or what’s the best items for it

[steady stone]

For general tips on bandit, there's:
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Bandit#Tips

But to highlight some good things: Crit items like can be especially strong with his guaranteed crits, and you can use what would've been to get more damage items

On desperado, cooldown reduction can make the game very easy as the ramping damage will do theoretically infinite damage

If you use desperado similar to a primary attack, chances are you can do at least 75% to a boss in 1 shot at the end of a stage. Combine it with and it ramps up an insane amount.

[calm steeple]

So if I got 5 of both rings it would be really good right?

[steady stone]

generally kjaros is slightly better but having 1 keeps them slow and in the fire tornado for more

[calm steeple]

K

[severe shard]

runalds is also better for quick or flying enemies, most notably mithrix

[severe shard]

imo they should just only do damage if ur in the radius

easy fix

makes it less likely for you to take unavoidable damage due to stuff like proc chains

or well. makes the damage avoidable

[lavish jacinth]

That just makes them unkillable for melee characters lol

The point is to make you focus on them and only them

Which is basically the same thing celestines already do, but in a really dumb way

Granted, Celestines aren't exactly very effective at it but at least they don't punish you for having aoe or procs

[severe shard]

how

still the exact same function but also can avoid damage by being out of radius

[lavish jacinth]

...because melee characters are melee and will have to get close...?

[severe shard]

and you can still just... kill the twisted elite first

[lavish jacinth]

Or be forced to use a ranged option if they even have one

[severe shard]

harder for melees but not impossible

[lavish jacinth]

Still dumb

[severe shard]

well yeah but a lot better

[lavish jacinth]

Not really

[severe shard]

makes it so you cant die to things you cant control (other than just not attacking)

[lavish jacinth]

Now instead of "fuck you for having procs" It's "fuck you for not having range"

[severe shard]

its fuck you for having procs and not having range and not focusing the twisted elite

you can kill twisteds normally as a melee character

[lavish jacinth]

That sounds even worse lmao

[severe shard]

i dont see how adding this would make it harder at all

[severe shard]

all of them combined

not individually

youd have to fulfill all 3 of those to get fucked over and theres still counterplay through avoidance

[lavish jacinth]

Let's not forget that melee characters tend to have huge hitboxes on their attacks, especially merc

[severe shard]

yeah but theres literally nothing in that change that would make it actively worse

which is how youre acting like it would

[lavish jacinth]

I'm saying they would still be bullshit, just for a different reason

[severe shard]

and if youre, for example, playing merc w/ an atg, you can avoid the radius and an atg proc hitting an enemy within it wouldnt reflect to you

its much harder to actually kill the twisted but you wont just die for no reason

[lavish jacinth]

Besides, they already showed off a wip rework that looked different from what you're saying

[severe shard]

yeah

what i said is just a bandaid fix but would be a lot better than how they are now

[lavish jacinth]

I'd prefer an actual rework instead of a bandaid fix

[severe shard]

and its the same concept of making the damage avoidable

[severe shard]

yeah?? me too

im giving an idea of a simpler thing that i dont think will be better than the full rework but it would have made them a lot better if it was there since the start

[lavish jacinth]

Ok, so we both agree that a rework is better and so this argument is pointless lol

[severe shard]

sure

if that sounded passive aggressive it wasnt intentional sorry

[lavish jacinth]

All good

[calm steeple]

What’s the best way to get the alt dagger I know the way we’re you get the but I can’t find the even when I had the artifact of command

[lavish jacinth]

You don't need purity, it's just a convenience

You can just use lights out instead

[steady stone]

can help but stacking backup mag on command isn't unviable either

[lavish jacinth]

Also to unlock purity you have to beat mithrix on monsoon

[steady stone]

just spam it on a boss, like beetle queen

bulky and slow is what you want

most bosses cant turn fast enough to counter backstab on bandit

[lavish jacinth]

I recommend alloy worship unit, because the boss needs to be tanky too

And it's easy to stand on it and hit its back

[spring spoke]

what items should i be stacking, to make the 20 go easier?

[lavish jacinth]

Backup mag

[steady stone]

generally these can help, or purity if you have the coins

on stage 4 AwU would make a good target. Enough elites for and AwU has a lot of health

but yeah backup mag is the command/printer way

[lavish jacinth]

Technically you don't need anything except lights out, at least with awu

[steady stone]

actually yeah

AwU has gotten 2500 stacks of bleed and literally didnt care
you might not need cooldowns

[lavish jacinth]

It'll survive the hemorrhage long enough to get 20 stacks even if you have to wait for the m2 cooldown

[steady stone]

also relative to scaling tho

[lavish jacinth]

I did it with aurelionite so that also works, though I still think awu is a little easier

[severe shard]

the biggest issue is just surviving and staying at the back

[steady stone]

just stand on top of awu, they turn but since you're standing on them you move with it

also they like dont try to look up if you're in the right spot

[lavish jacinth]

It does like to spin though

[daring cloak]

I do wonder a bit if you could also use the artifact of chaos and get an fs to stack raps and tank the hemm stacks

It would be the easiest in execution but rather hard in setting up due to having to find someone to do that with

[steady stone]

possibly?

[daring cloak]

Nox thorn is also a somewhat viable option

[daring cloak]

I dont think goobo could tank enough

[steady stone]

does goobo take your items? i dont remember

[daring cloak]

No

[lavish jacinth]

It also likes to move around

[calm steeple]

Doesn’t the hemorrhage only last 15 seconds

[glacial knoll]

awu does have like 33% more hp than auro

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, but it resets each time you add a new stack, like bleed

[calm steeple]

Oh ok the video I was watching didn’t mention that

[lavish jacinth]

And the shield

[daring cloak]

Nox thorn could also be an option if you can deal with the wonky enemy proc coefficient nonsense

[glacial knoll]

i assume this is the bandit achievement just get awu it's easy

[calm steeple]

When I first was trying it I thought it meant you had to kill a enemy with the dagger 20 times in a row

Sorry for all the questions (I’m just very stupid) what’s easier beating the game on monsoon or exploding on monsoon

[daring cloak]

obliterating is usually easier

Though if you want to unlock purity you have to actually win

[steady stone]

For experience though, it might be better to fight mithrix and get used to him

also no problem with the questions, that's why some of us are here ;)

[calm steeple]

On monsoon to get it

[steady stone]

escaping the moon being the after-sequence of mithrix

[spring spoke]

what do equipment drones do?

[steady stone]

give them an equipment, they'll use it repeatedly with lower cooldowns than normal

think of it like a drone that has no attacks, but has and an equipment slot

[lavish jacinth]

Specifically they get a whopping 80% cooldown reduction

[calm steeple]

Welp I’m never getting that I can’t even get past his second stage (mainly the spinning fire walls part) on easy mode without the bird

[lavish jacinth]

About the same as 4 gestures

[spring spoke]

so if i place a business card into it, will i still get the 10% off?

[lavish jacinth]

No

[spring spoke]

darn

[steady stone]

you should tend to give it damage things
and for example excel with it

[spring spoke]

👌

[lavish jacinth]

drone can soft carry a run

[steady stone]

Any drone can if mithrix is bad enough at aiming that day tbh

[lavish jacinth]

Perma uptime black hole

[steady stone]

A lot of the time mithrix will focus your drones like the cartoon "ooh a butterfly"
the thing is mithrix can't really hit them without pizza

oh, uh, pizza being the big spinny lines

[lavish jacinth]

The technical term is big spinny, according to the devs

[steady stone]

you can also repair the drones during the fight when they go down, if you have the gold

so if you save some, you can revive them after big spinny

[lavish jacinth]

Better yet, repair them just before he steals your items

[calm steeple]

Is there a easy way to kill them as bandit or items that do a lot of dps to them

[steady stone]

bandit is pretty good with proc, but his R is burst

[lavish jacinth]

If you have squid polyp, the turrets will persist and shred him in phase 4

[lavish jacinth]

Bandit just does a lot of damage in general, and most damage items are as effective as always

[calm steeple]

What is that

[lavish jacinth]

The only things that don't work are aoe like ukulele since it's mostly a 1v1

[steady stone]

this is especially important on engi, if you put the turrets down before he steals, they will keep the items

[lavish jacinth]

interacting with stuff spawns a temporary turret minion that knocks back enemies

[lavish jacinth]

He steals items from turrets too

[steady stone]

i refuse to believe that, is it new?

[lavish jacinth]

He doesn't use them but he still empties their inventory

[calm steeple]

Is it a dlc item or do you have to unlock it

[daring cloak]

Isnt polyp just there from the getgo?

[lavish jacinth]

Since almost forever lol
It was in the first patch after mithrix was added iirc

[steady stone]

might be like a random side effect of a qol mod

[lavish jacinth]

It's an unlock, I forget what you have to do for it tho

[lavish jacinth]

"Qol"

directly buffs engineer to make phase 4 infinitely easier

Unless it was unintended or something

[steady stone]

yeah, probably unintended i mean

but i also havent fought mithrix with engi in a while anyway

[lavish jacinth]

Looked it up, you have to buy 6 gunner turrets in a single run

[calm steeple]

Ok thanks

[forest linden]

Is glass good on Railgunner? She has really little base health, but the extra damage feels like it could outweigh that

[steady stone]

if you can dodge, glass could easily be the best lunar on any character

it also spirals well with stacking, where if you kill things instantly they can't hit you basically

[severe shard]

glass isnt really a per character thing

most characters have similar survivability if youre decent

[full apex]

i find the random death to bullshit possibility makes glass really unfun to use, but if you like it its probably fine

on railer specifically it might be overkill a lot of the time but it would be funny on bosses or big elites

[severe shard]

actually glass is busted on loader but loader is just busted by herself so

[forest linden]

Thank you all

[calm steeple]

Ok is this a good combo if you have enough of both

[full apex]

in general?

syring is pretty decent, behemoth is very very good but is most valuable on the first stack. it only scales aoe size, which can be nice but isnt really that crazy for a red item when meathook or clover or smth would be significantly nicer to get instead

[lavish jacinth]

There isnt really a specific synergy with them, Behemoth deals total damage so attack speed doesn't really affect it beyond just being another dps multiplier.

[raven nymph]

you know what is the best behemoth synergy

behemoth + captain m2

[lavish jacinth]

However, having tons of huge explosions everywhere is pretty cool so maybe it's worth it just for that

[lavish jacinth]

True!!!!
Although usually the extra damage from behemoth probably wouldn't be enough to break the stun, at least on bigger targets that you'd actually want to taze

[calm steeple]

Does the syringe only work for bandit when he’s outa shells

[full apex]

for the reload yea

[raven nymph]

increases reload speed

[full apex]

you can already shoot as fast as you can click

it makes his special come out faster though as well

[raven nymph]

still worth taking ig

like 1-3 stacks

[lavish jacinth]

Predatory instincts can be pretty alright on him

[full apex]

reloading faster is still more dps

and since he unloads so fast its not really as disjointed as other CD based m1s like visions or scrap launcher

[lavish jacinth]

And it does affect how fast he pulls out his revolver and m2, not a big deal but it can be nice sometimes

[calm steeple]

So if I use my bullets and only wait for one shot to reload and shoot each times there’s only one will it be faster

[full apex]

it will but reloading more at a time is still better, since consecutive reloads are faster

[calm steeple]

So would it be worth it grabbing syringes

[full apex]

yea its fine, its still better dps

maybe not trying to stack a whole ton, but honestly thats kinda normal for everyone

[quasi crystal]

Do not print them

[lavish jacinth]

Attack speed on bandit is nice to have but low priority

[calm steeple]

Is 4 to 5 good or too many

[full apex]

its fine

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't deliberately go past 3 or 4

[full apex]

4 is 60% which is decent

if you are using command or something though you can diversify into some other sources of damage

[lavish jacinth]

And I wouldn't print them

[full apex]

otherwise yea just take em from trishops if theres nothing better

if not its rng
i probably wouldnt scrap them unless i needed to

[daring cloak]

I do think some attack speed is pretty nice for bandit just to get the special out a bit faster

[lavish jacinth]

If you want damage, Bandit is better off spending scrap on something like tritip/needletick, crowbar, watches, etc.. depending on whether you're building around your primary or special

[calm steeple]

Is there any item they makes him shoot faster

[full apex]

its just based on your click speed

since it already has no limit and no autofire theres no way something could make it faster

[calm steeple]

Is it gonna be harder clicking if I’m on a console

[full apex]

uhhh some people find spamming triggers easier, it would really just be up to you

[daring cloak]

Not inherently

It just takes some getting used to

[tall hedge]

does prayer beads printer bug still work

[quasi crystal]

I don't think it was patched

Though I can't confirm myself I blacklisted those

[rancid jewel]

wheres the hud

NVM my hud was turned off for some reason??

i didnt know that was a setting

[full apex]

which bug?

like checking stack size after removal?

[quasi crystal]

i think that or the fact you can just farm forever (which is an exploit moreso than a bug)

[full apex]

Yea. You can technically get infinite greens with recycler and regen scrap, but it's slow as hell

I did it in simulacrum before since no timer. Just a silly synergy

[quasi crystal]

Anyone got a mod that reverts thunder slam sound 🙂

[copper pivot]

yo ive got 13 green scrap before stage 5 and here at bazaar theres a growth nectar pot. is the +20% of overall stats per item pickup good? like is it worth stacking?

[quasi crystal]

Can you proc it reliably

[copper pivot]

Yeah i would say so

[lavish jacinth]

IF you can consistently keep it going then it's probably worth it, the wiki lists everything that counts towards it if you wanna be sure https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Growth_Nectar

keep in mind that if you plan to fight mithrix, buffs gained from killing enemies probably won't be useful unless you have

[sweet rain]

i just bought risk of rain two a few days ago and i have 7.5 hours, so far i only like huntress(for homing and mobility) and bandit(shotguns are cool), ive only ever made it to the 4th stage, is there any tips you can offer?

[lavish jacinth]

there are a bunch of general tips pinned here if you scroll down a bit

biggest one I'd give though, is to loot as much as you can and don't panic over the timer. At least an item per minute is a good rule of thumb

it helps to learn stage layouts so you can loot faster but that just comes with experience, same with learning enemy attack patterns and stuff

[sweet rain]

got it

[forest linden]

If three people play acrid, is it better for them all to run blight or poison?

[lavish jacinth]

one runs poison, the other two run blight

poison doesn't stack so there's no point in more than one person running it

[quasi crystal]

Multiple acrids seems like heaven

[forest linden]

is there a good way to unlock gesture? hermit crabs very rarely spawn after looping for me

is there some way to manipulate them into spawning more?

[lavish jacinth]

Titanic plains stage 6 is the best place to do it. Artifact of swarms helps but you have to be extra careful to not kill them by accident

there isn't really a "good" way to do it, that unlock is a pain no matter what

[forest linden]

also, is there a way to get 2, 3, or 4 person difficulty in single player? like with a mod or something

[forest linden]

alright

[lavish jacinth]

this is the only one I know of, but it's out of date so it may not work #ror2-modding might know though https://thunderstore.io/package/6thmoon/MultitudesDifficulty/

[forest linden]

Okay, thank you

[small pasture]

Does anyone have a full monster logbook completely? There’s one monster in the bottom right of the first page that I apparently haven’t even fought and it’s kinda bugging the hell out of me that I can’t find it

[lavish jacinth]

can you send a screenshot?

[small pasture]

Yea one sec

The dude in the bottom right

Genuinely no clue who that is

[lavish jacinth]

huh, that's weird.

the logbook you're missing is mithrix, he's got a bug where his log always appears locked until you actually collect it. But why do you have logs for geep, gip and malachite urchin?

wtf, yours isn't even in the same order as mine

[minor jungle]

mods

[lavish jacinth]

I guess

but they're supposed to be arranged in order of health so the order shouldn't change

[sharp hare]

Her biting embrace or preon accumlator

[lavish jacinth]

preon

biting embrace is just a better chronobauble

[sharp hare]

btw what does embrace even do

[lavish jacinth]

slow on hit and you create an ice explosion when you die lol

same as a glacial elite but without any stat buffs

[sharp hare]

oh ic

[lavish jacinth]

yeah most of the aspects are pretty lame

blazing and overloading are the best, perfected is decent but good luck ever getting it

the rest range from bad to actively detrimental

[sharp hare]

um what did 5k damage here

[lavish jacinth]

the preon

[sharp hare]

oh

it got auto used somehow i didnt even use it atleast not on purpose

[lavish jacinth]

ig you hit the button by accident then

[small pasture]

I mean I guess? I thought mythrix was on the back page with the false son, but there’s a small chance I could have a mod installed that bugs out the monster menu lol

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, if it's not mithrix and you have everything else, then I don't know what it would be

[small pasture]

I dunno

I also killed the obliterate scavenger but it still says I haven’t found it which is fun lol

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I think you've got a mod messing things up, because twisted scav doesn't even have a log normally

[small pasture]

Huh

[lavish jacinth]

this is what the second page normally looks like (ignore the 3 missing ones, they're aurelionite, grovetender and imp overlord)

[small pasture]

I have an item locked on the second page as well which I thought was just the twisted scavenger

Well shit

[lavish jacinth]

maybe try turning off mods and see what it looks like

[small pasture]

I’ll do it tmrw

Been up since 4 am and it’s midnight lmao

I’m tired as fuck

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[exotic pebble]

Which stage would yall most associate with Tougher Times?

[lavish jacinth]

Wat

[exotic pebble]

i'm trying to set up some cinematic shots. Like where do you think you'd most likely find Tougher Times lore wise

or just what would look good

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think it fits any stage in terms of lore

But uh, aphelian or scorched acres might look good, similar color palette

[exotic pebble]

Thank you, I shall ponder these suggestions

[burnt schooner]

The enemies have the Dio's Best Friend item, does that means I get more chance of getting items with the Artifact of Sacrifice?

Also, any tips for reducing lags?

[flint galleon]

for me lowering my resolution and texture size helps a ton

[analog brook]

If I recall correctly they can give you more item drops yes
You could reduce lag by scrapping certain items, both proc chains and on kills can be pretty laggy so it's up to you really
But monster tooth and bandolier is just unnecessary lag you don't really need

[burnt schooner]

I see, thanks!

[flint prawn]

JP's AV Effect Options(or something like that) is a mod that can erase effects from appearing(like Sticky Bomb) for less lag if you are fine with playing without some things' visuals

[calm steeple]

Bandit does damage when you turn invis and go un invis or is it just one I can’t remember cuz I’m stupid

[flint prawn]

Both

[calm steeple]

I gotta idea

[flint prawn]

Invis+getting out both damage AND stun

[calm steeple]

Ok thanks

[flint prawn]

You're welcome 👍

[calm steeple]

Does items ability’s work on the damage for the invis

[peak jacinth]

yes

[calm steeple]

That’s gonna make killing mithrix only with it better

Thanks

[icy topaz]

what are the chances of getting red item from rusted key box and large chest

[daring cloak]

20%

[icy topaz]

wanna see which one should i open it with sale star

[icy topaz]

both the same?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[icy topaz]

thanks

[maiden furnace]

Shadows disabled? All extra settings like bloom, SSAO, foliage wind, etc. disabled?

[placid mesa]

Hi!
I recently bought ROR2 on Steam, and discovered a problem that in multiplayer there are no servers in the list. I enabled cross platform and logged in through Epic, disabled cross platform and no servers either. What should I do ?

[lavish jacinth]

generally it's best to keep crossplay off, it's known to be pretty glitchy and not many people use it.
Depending on your time zone there might not be many people playing, although you might check your firewall settings just to make sure the game isn't being blocked or whatever

I just checked and only see one lobby open atm, but for me it's 12pm on a Tuesday, so probably not many people playing

[placid mesa]

thank you!
It’s just that for me, servers also rarely show up, and there are usually only 1-2 at most.
It’s just that when I checked the game’s stats, it said there are 8-10K players daily, and it seemed strange to me. It can’t be that so few people are actually playing and there are so few servers.
Or maybe people in RoR mostly play in private lobbies with friends, as it seems to me now.

[lavish jacinth]

a lot of people also just play singleplayer

we do have #lfg-pc-ror2 if you wanna try to find someone to play with

[placid mesa]

Okay, thanks!

[placid mesa]

oh btw, сan u recommend charachters for singleplayer ?

[lavish jacinth]

every survivor is viable, just try them all out and play the ones you like

[tall hedge]

commando best survivor

[spring spoke]

best healing item?

[daring cloak]

Dodging

But in all seriousness

[spring spoke]

still learning to spam run

• dallas took the last medic bag

[livid wedge]

Donacdum

[daring cloak]

Transcendence is usually the best option as it converts all health into shield which completely fills up after 7 seconds of not taking damage

[livid wedge]

is also pretty good

[spring spoke]

which is better for more aggressive?

[livid wedge]

is probably on the aggressive side

Need crit for it to be decent

[spring spoke]

dont have it D:

guess im speed running

[steady stone]

is a "safe" healing item

so is if you can dodge decently for now, but medkit if you can't dodge as well probably

[quasi crystal]

if you have dlc

[golden fog]

Does anyone know how to fix cloth physics bugging out? Is there any mods to help with that or am I just gonna have to be annoyed by it forever?

[lavish jacinth]

if there's a mod for it then #ror2-modding might know

[golden fog]

Oh right, thanks

[minor jungle]

if you have good crit chance

Oh damn my discord wasnt loaded all messages

[spring spoke]

so how do i unlock the harvester scythe?

[steady stone]

do a prismatic trial iirc

[spring spoke]

next question, why can't i go into trials....

[steady stone]

mods?

[spring spoke]

ah

didnt know mods disabled trials, guess i wont be using custom skins for this

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it has to be vanilla because your time and score gets submitted to a leaderboard

[spring spoke]

different subject, when should i start trying to do Minos prime mythix?

[steady stone]

i mean stage 6 mithrix is the "normal" i guess

What's "growth"?

[lavish jacinth]

as in false son's passive?

[steady stone]

it's listed on his spikes and laser

[lavish jacinth]

it's basically just bonus health gained from items like steak or infusion

iirc if you read it on the skills tab instead of loadout it explains it

the wiki also has specifics https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/False_Son

[spring spoke]

i mean for hours, how many hours should i play in total before trying him

[steady stone]

i mean trying him every run is good, you have to learn his patterns to improve

[spring spoke]

noted, ill try him on stage 8

[lavish jacinth]

well you couldn't do it on stage 8, it would have to be from sky meadows or helminth hatchery

so it'd be stage 6 at the earliest or 11 after your first loop

[steady stone]

i forgot, could he do hidden stages to make it technically stage 8 though?

i dont recall if some count as numbers for the counter

[lavish jacinth]

they don't count as stages

but yeah, there's no harm in attempting it, the fight itself has a little bit of a learning curve so you'll need to practice it at some point

like, I had around 500 hours when I fought mithrix for the first time (because he wasn't in the game before then) and I still lost my first fight with him

[cedar pine]

Is seekers of the storm worth getting? Got survivors of the void and im absolutely loving the void items and the 2 characters i wanna know if seekers of the storm is up to par

[lavish jacinth]

not really at the moment, it's still got a lot of bugs and balance issues. There are some big reworks coming at some point though, best to wait for those before you buy imo

[cedar pine]

Alr ty

[spring spoke]

what items should i always scrap?

[left tapir]

well seeing that u like railgunner, bungus, monster tooth, atg, (most reds aren't that good on rail gunner so ill list a few that are good-scope, hardlight, alien head), ukulele, brooch, steak, warbanner. sticky bomb, stun grenade and other

[spring spoke]

noted

[lavish jacinth]

bruh what

most of those are perfectly good on RG lol

steak, warbanner, stun grenade and maybe bungus are the only ones that are scrap

alien head and hardlight don't even do much for her either

[left trellis]

scrapping ATG? in this economy?

[spring spoke]

i think he meant for keeping

[lavish jacinth]

just in general, are pretty trash across the board, as well as a lot of SotS items if you have it

and for the record regarding the other comment, are all perfectly good on railgunner. Total damage procs are good no matter what survivor you play, and ESPECIALLY good with the high proc coeffs on her specials

well you asked what to scrap and they listed those items, so

[spring spoke]

really is bad?!

[lavish jacinth]

yeah lol

[spring spoke]

so that might be why i keep eating dirt....

[lavish jacinth]

it's a little less than 2 and about half of

the effect is just totally negligible, and it's easily the worst boss item

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, and I might as well add good reds for railgunner while I'm at it
is normally pretty eh but it works well with RG's headshots and synergizes with since it's a single instance of damage (as opposed to )
are all solid go-tos for pretty much any survivor

[spring spoke]

tbh, i dont play railgunner much

i just like her design

[lavish jacinth]

lol, welp

but most of what I said still applies to other survivors anyway

[vague acorn]

I mean it's decent early on, but it's useless after like stage 2 or 3

[quasi crystal]

Knurl on eclipse when you can't just abuse medkit 👍

[analog brook]

This is psychological warfare it's gotta be

Ukes and atgs are like the one item you really shouldn't ever scrap unless you're doing an achievement or have smth like... Maybe a bands or shurikens printer..?

[cedar pine]

Is there anyway i can force spawn an overloading worm for the alt secondary on commando

[dusky raven]

just like go far

loop a ton.

a mountain shrine on monsoon stage 5 like 50 min in has a chance to but best case is to also go the distance

[steady stone]

Also make sure you don't have artifact of honor, they can't spawn with it.

But yeah mountain shrine RNG is probably your best bet

[stone anchor]

is there a way i can make the crates/chest be highlighted? i'm blind as a bat and can barely find any

[analog brook]

There's the tutorial mode for drizzle and uhm radar scanner equipment... But that's it for non modded

[cedar pine]

That kinda sucks

[stone anchor]

oki thank you

[flint prawn]

There's a tutorial mode?

[daring cloak]

Ye with the sots update they added a tutorial option that pops up under the difficulty option if you select drizzle

[flint prawn]

Huh. Now I know what to do when I get back to my PC

[wicked cliff]

how to turn off the stats menu from the looking glass mod ?

[flint galleon]

Hello, for some reason I didn't get the "Dunked" achievement for Rex. Do you specifically have to be on abandoned aqueduct?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[flint galleon]

ah

thanks

[sleek token]

I'm having an issue with my saves. It got corrupted and i needed some help to bring it back

[lavish jacinth]

Check pins in #ror2-tech-support , there are some fixes for corrupted saves iirc.

Or, worst case scenario, you can just use CheatUnlocks on a new profile to recreate your old save

[sleek token]

I was trying to use the save editor website and it just does not work

Even created a new profile for it and nothing happens

[sonic flame]

Can I use the drizzle difficulty to easily unlock survivors?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that's why I recommend cheatunlocks instead

[sleek token]

Like, on the folder. My corrupted save does not exist anymore, and there is the new one, but still nothing

[sleek token]

Ooka, i'll try that

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, drizzle doesn't affect unlocks unless the unlock specifically requires a certain difficulty (most don't)

[sonic flame]

okay, thanks

[sleek token]

It worked man.

I was terrified to lose my e7 capitan 😦

[boreal plinth]

guys i got a question

i found a chest idk what it is

[south egret]

get one of the #roles and send a screenshot of it

[steady stone]

Red chest that costs like a few thousand gold?

[daring cloak]

Usually yeah

[steady stone]

That or a cloaked chest but they would just open it

[daring cloak]

Potentially an adaptive chest

They are rather rare imo

[steady stone]

The red chest is a Legendary chest, there's always one in the same spot on Abyssal, one in a random spot in Grove, and none in Siren's because it's replaced with ||The Alloy Worship Unit hidden boss.|| It always drops a red item .

They also can randomly spawn starting, like, stage 4 or 5 iirc. Just really rare, especially to get that early.

[boreal plinth]

dw someone already answered my question

but what is the gold statue thing for it took 3k gold

idk what it did

[steady stone]

Gold statue or statue that absorbs gold over time?

I.E. made of gold or jade ig

[boreal plinth]

let me get an ss

oof i died while getting a ss

[steady stone]

A chance shrine covered in gold will make a Gold Portal appear after the teleporter

[boreal plinth]

but i got it

[daring cloak]

Yup thats a gold shrine

[steady stone]

You can go to the Realm of Gold and fight Aurelionite

[boreal plinth]

i see

[steady stone]

Along with fighting along side her, as she drops which summons her during teleporter events and certain bosses

[lavish jacinth]

Way to spoil it

But yeah it doesn't do anything right away but you'll get a portal after charging the tp

[daring cloak]

OH ALSO

[lavish jacinth]

Also, pictures taken seconds before disaster

[steady stone]

Not too much, other than the name.

If you go there you can't really miss her lol

[daring cloak]

turn on the inspect feature in the gameplay settings as that will allow you to view small descriptions of things like chests, shrines and other things

[lavish jacinth]

Oh yeah, definitely do that

It's under that umbrella settings thing on the first settings page

[spring spoke]

3 things
1: how do I get desperato for bandit
2: why do I suck
3: how do I stop sucking

[lavish jacinth]

Idk why they called it that, it's just qol stuff

[steady stone]

I forgot I don't need a mod for that anymore.

[steady stone]

Play = experience
Also for desperado avoid proc that will steal the kill

[spring spoke]

Is mythix the "final boss"?

[lavish jacinth]

1. Kill mithrix with lights out
2. Are you a vacuum
3. Practice, tbh

[spring spoke]

Dammit

[steady stone]

One of them, yeah

[lavish jacinth]

The main one

[steady stone]

There's a few ways to end the run but iirc desperado only counts him?

[lavish jacinth]

I think so yeah

[spring spoke]

I vacuum deaths before my first loop

[steady stone]

Probably easier to kill him than voidling anyway.

[daring cloak]

Yes

[spring spoke]

I should maybe go back to normal difficulty...

[lavish jacinth]

That's the roguelike experience, you get used to it

[steady stone]

No harm in that.

[lavish jacinth]

The important thing is to try to learn from every death and improve on the next run

[spring spoke]

That's what I try to do, but normally I can't learn anything

[daring cloak]

Yeah dont worry too much about dying

Last time I checked I had a 5% win rate

[spring spoke]

Im not worrying about death, I'm just worrying about not being able to stop dieing

[steady stone]

Eventually you get better at managing the runs. I always said there were 3 phases to ror2:

1. No management, no wins
2. Hyper management, all wins
3. No management, all wins

[spring spoke]

I haven't been able to progress pass stage 6 effectively

[lavish jacinth]

Well, the usual place to start is just figuring out why you died and what you could've done about it

[spring spoke]

What survivor would be good for "putting me to the grind stone" to get good

[steady stone]

Mando or huntress are the "average" starter characters

They're good with a large roster of items and simple to play

[lavish jacinth]

Mando is the better one for learning imo because he's so basic

[steady stone]

It helps with general knowledge and experience

[steady stone]

Mando for gameplay, huntress for dodging I'd say

[lavish jacinth]

Ehh, i dunno

Huntress has really good dodging ability that others don't have

[steady stone]

I always thought the autoaim let them actually think about their movements more until they get used to strafing

It's more to get in the muscle memory if anything

[lavish jacinth]

But if you can dodge as commando you can dodge as almost anyone

[daring cloak]

I like to recommend bandit for practicing more context based decision making

[steady stone]

Tldr all characters are pretty good, but Mando and huntress are starters for a reason

[lavish jacinth]

Mul-t's also pretty good for that

[spring spoke]

Rodger Rodger, normal or monsoon?

[daring cloak]

Do rainstorm first

[steady stone]

I think it's good to at least beat rainstorm first

[quasi crystal]

idk mando and huntress seemed very underwhelming when i started vs the other early unlocks

[steady stone]

Yeah, because loader and bandit do big damage without items, they seem better at first until you have more experience and realize "damn these are all good"

[spring spoke]

Understood, just gotta wait to get back to my PC, to continue addiction

[lavish jacinth]

Commando's default skills do kinda suck though unfortunately

[steady stone]

Truly "average"

[lavish jacinth]

And huntress just has low damage in general

[steady stone]

But average kinda got power crept a bit

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

You can sorta tell which survivors have been around since early beta and which ones were added later, lol

Except Loader

[quasi crystal]

Really only the roll is truly awful

[daring cloak]

And slide is one of the easiest unlocks