then what crossplay for 
#ror2-game-questions
wicked cliff
quasi crystal
Epic and steam
wicked cliff
Epic and steam
what if i download the xbox app and make an xbox acc on pc ?
lavish jacinth
what if i download the xbox app and make an xbox acc on pc ?
still doesn't work
wicked cliff
tacit summit
idk what i thought but i thought what i thought and i thought a line of thought thought that it worked fine
basically
void = bad, lunar = bad, bad fights bad? means one bad is other kind of bad and my thoughts were on lunar family
also you overestimated my intellect i prob wouldnt be able to go that far
quasi crystal
Lol but yeah naturally spawning reavers (not from a seed or zoea) are monster team whereas lunar chimeras are lunar
quasi crystal
interesting
tacit summit
Lol but yeah naturally spawning reavers (not from a seed or zoea) are monster te...
seems like hopoo forgot
quasi crystal
Well zoea is obvious but yeah it's funny seeing void monsters fighting other void monsters in a void seed during a family event
upper gate
can i post item suggestions in here? or is this just for general suggestions to already existing items/gameplay?
wide parrot
Not even the right channel
wide parrot
bronze palm
whats the best seed to do rex'x dunked challenge?
lavish jacinth
uhhh any seed that has a dunestrider on aqueduct stage 2 lol
I highly doubt anyone knows a specific seed for that
It's possible the seed wouldn't matter much anyway apart from getting the right stage, because you can still get different outcomes due to differences in director credits
daring cloak
I mean if you can put in a select seed you can also use the debugtoolkit to simply spawn a dunestrider there yourself
lavish jacinth
at that point just use cheatunlocks lol
livid wedge
Yeah
lavish jacinth
it's not like pushing it into the pit is hard, just spam utility at it until it works. 99% of the challenge is just getting the right RNG
bronze palm
i did it! it took 5 resets but ive donethe dunked acheivement.
fresh umbra
What’s railgunner’s gameplan in the mithrix fight? I had an insane run with hh44, concussion, and cryocharge, but still lost because i didn’t know what the hell i was doing
hoary sedge
freeze the guy -> shoot the guy until he unfreezes -> dodge until you can freeze the guy again
using the instant detonation tech with the mines can help with dodging if you have low mobility items but other than that it's just hitting your shots and timing the charges well
lavish jacinth
stick to the ramps too, be ready to run up to him once he starts doing big spinny in phase 3 but otherwise there's no reason to get close to him and the ramps are pretty safe
quasi crystal
If you're not confident in your scope aim vs him but have a lot of procs also feel free to hip fire m1 in between cryos it's free damage
timber flicker
How does life on Pretichor V effect the fermi paradox?
golden hound
which arti primary is better
livid wedge
Yeah, flamebolt and ignition tanks too stronk
lavish jacinth
without ignition tank they're pretty similar but yeah, flame is way stronger if you get one
hoary sedge
also flame got way more than plasma out of the m1 attack speed scaling change bc you can stack burn a lot faster
full apex
stacking burn doesnt really do anything different, its still just more damage
the DoT bug makes burn worse with bleed but for arti thats not the biggest deal. its more annoying for flamethrower than anything else
lavish jacinth
Speaking of the DoT bug, has anyone dug around to find out how it actually works or what causes it? I played around with it a little bit but haven't really tried to work out what exactly it does besides making DoTs behave weirdly and wear off a lot faster
I know it doesn't really matter since it'll probably be fixed soon, it's just fun to learn about this game's jank lol
full apex
yea wolfo found the cause already, its BurnEffectController.HandleDestroy()
they added a new effect for burns, where they visually appear on the enemy longer than they really last for (which is why the icon stays for a bit after its done dealing damage)
and when they destroy the effect instead of destroying the component, they nuke the entire DoT controller object
and ofc that handles all DoTs so killing it kills all DoTs
so that means when burns wear off and the game tries to remove the effect, every other DoT gets nuked. So collapse will be removed without going off, bleed stacks are lost, etc
poison and blight also use the same effect controller so they also kill other DoTs when they drop uptime
lavish jacinth
funky
full apex
yea its pretty bad, but hopefully that just means its high priority to be fixed.
Wolfo and I are both confused why they added the ghost burns in the first place, i suppose the best guess was making chef's sear look stronger than it is or smth idk
timber flicker
Damage over Time?
full apex
yep
timber flicker
Perhaps we could stop mercilessly burning the beautiful creatures of Pretichor V and hold hands and watch the golden sun set under the horizon at the Aphelian Sanctuary
livid wedge
If they're willing to stop attacking
timber flicker
Perhaps we could come to an agreement to end a senseless violence. If only we could get passed the language barrier.
timber flicker
Was it not our human nature that prompted Providence’s reaction? It must have taken little convincing for the inhabitants to take up arms against us. Are we truly survivors, or mere reflections of our destructive tendencies? We often see even ourselves as creatures of malice and destruction. The inhabitants of Pretichor V react to our arrival rationally, a response that echoes what we might feel in their place.
To them, we are the invaders; but our true enemy lies within—our own nature. To build a bridge toward understanding, we must lay down our spears and swords and take up hammers and chisels. We must prove to every being that we have the courage to change. One day, perhaps we will sit together, hand in hand, and watch the star Pretichor set over the horizon.
quasi crystal
I'm pretty sure in logbooks ues explorers talk to monsters
mossy prism
Does chef primary proc both ways and on multiple targets?
quasi crystal
I believe so
celest kayak
is there a specific formula to the base stats a character gains upon levelling up?
is it a flat 20% or something? its hard to tell
glacial knoll
this is what Should be per level yes
I don't think any vanilla creature uses this method but it sure, exists
celest kayak
ah so base damage and regen is 20%, but health and shield is 30%?
glacial knoll
yeah
celest kayak
great, tysm!
glacial knoll
There's some weird lack of decimals on the sots characters yeah
Should have 2.6 level damage but has 2 level damage instead
icy topaz
is the drop chance of items in artifact of sacrifice still the same if you also have artifact swarms on
icy topaz
nice
glacial knoll
I think it is halved but never goes below 5% still so definitely still a lot more
forest linden
What items should you pick up as VF other than atkspd?
glacial knoll
if you wanna stay red then avoid healing and take more crit and voids, if not then just "the good items"
hoary sedge
yeah generally you wanna avoid stuff like medkit and lepton daisy bc it makes it harder to keep the meter where you want it
scythe is fine bc the boost from crit outweighs the reduction from healing and slug is fine bc it boosts regen instead of directly healing you, other healing items can be a bit iffy
full apex
I think it is halved but never goes below 5% still so definitely still a lot mor...
That's another bonus but even over the minimum swarms is a bonus
bitter pecan
how do i find my game file save? just downloaded it and all the previous tutorials seems outdated. I just want to see where I can find the file save
steady stone
steady stone
yeah i talked to him in #ror2-discussion, about RealerCheatUnlocks
it's the one i'd recommend since GUI is hard to mess stuff up with
full apex
if youre willing to use mods you dont need to mess with your save file really which is nice
faint gull
I'm pretty sure in logbooks ues explorers talk to monsters
Which logbook?
surreal zodiac
is beating mithrix not considered beating the game? (im trying to unlock skin)
or am i just dumb
lavish jacinth
is beating mithrix not considered beating the game? (im trying to unlock skin)
it is, you have to do it on monsoon though
lavish jacinth
yeah, the wording is a little confusing. It's [beat the game or obliterate] on monsoon, not [beat the game] or [obliterate on monsoon]
surreal zodiac
i see thx for answering
full apex
i still dont get how thats confusing but it comes up super often actually
like why would one win condition unlock be easier than the other.?
surreal zodiac
i read somewhat quickly so word gets mixed up sometimes
lavish jacinth
I'm not sure why they didn't just say "win a run on monsoon"
livid wedge
i still dont get how thats confusing but it comes up super often actually
Syntactic ambiguity
marsh gust
It counts as victory when scoring in the logbook
full apex
some form of 'complete a run' could be better now that theres more wincons
unless voidling just doesnt count lmao
analog brook
Everything that isn't dying counts for masteries rn yea
full apex
or i guess theres no reason not to just have it be "on monsoon, x or y"
i dont like how it sounds as much but i guess it has no chance of ambiguity at all
marsh gust
Beating mithrix on eclipse doesn’t count as victory when counting wins in the logbook tho
full apex
eclipse works for mastery skins because its monsoon
marsh gust
It does yes
analog brook
What's the reason for it not working for character logbook entries
full apex
side note i appreciate that your AC meaning changes lol, i just noticed it
full apex
What's the reason for it not working for character logbook entries
idk logbook is fukin weird lmao
marsh gust
It doesnt tick the victory counter up
Theres a stat for “runs won”
For whatever reason it doesn’t recognize eclipse wins as complete when you win them
But it still tracks the other stats
Idk if that was fixed since i last played eclipse tho
lavish jacinth
related to it being an alternate mode, maybe?
blazing garnet
like why would one win condition unlock be easier than the other.?
Idk I personally think that obliterating is actually easier than fighting Mithrix so I think it could also make sense to have to obliterate on monsoon but not be on monsoon when killing Mithrix
Honestly I have a harder time against drizzle Mithrix than a monsoon obliteration
quasi crystal
As you play you'll learn how mithrix's ai functions and get more comfortable; when you do it'll be faster usually to fight him
serene vector
you'll realize mithrix is dumb sometimes and cant reach you in certain places or is able to be rooted 
serene vector
on the other hand i've fought black hole scav as acrid before on like e7
sad to say that run was never meant to be
but yeah mithrix is fairly easy besides dodging pizza cutter and/or giving him op items in phase 4
just be sure to do sharp turns and watch where he is
quasi crystal
If you give him op items just hide behind a wall lol
blazing garnet
Dont you need to hit him to get the items back?
lavish jacinth
you can just poke him to death
it doesn't matter if he heals, items returned are based on the total damage dealt
lavish jacinth
but yeah mithrix is fairly easy besides dodging pizza cutter and/or giving him o...
big spinny is also pretty easy to dodge, just stay close to him
serene vector
he doesnt take your equipment, so if you can, maybe bring a 
or 
and shoot from a safe distance
lavish jacinth
he always alternates between big spinny and the big ground slam so you can sorta predict it
serene vector
big spinny is also pretty easy to dodge, just stay close to him
yeah but for a lot of people whose reaction times are slightly slower, getting 
or 
is better
quasi crystal
Dont you need to hit him to get the items back?
Bringing aurelonite to the fight will guarantee his hp is chipped a good bit for free too
Even on god runs I've had her do a lot while I sit and wait
serene vector
if you'er a close range character, circle him as much as possible, dont give him time to fix his aim on you
lavish jacinth
yeah but for a lot of people whose reaction times are slightly slower, getting <...
I wouldn't say it's that hard, just find a distance where you can easily move with it
quasi crystal
One time I died to that because bottled chaos rolled a blast shower and I got confused
lavish jacinth
another good trick is to stay close to him until the very end of the item stealing animation and then run, that way your drones will immediately aggro to him when he's vulnerable instead of following you
quasi crystal
Nice tc drone
lavish jacinth
it survived most of the run and then died at the literal last second to a void reaver
serene vector
i like to cheese the end part where i drop below or fly above the ship platform and either dash/jump/equip in the air or loader grapple
just not worth it when they can spawn those lunar chimeras that machine gun u to death 😭
lavish jacinth
usually the chimeras are too busy fighting with reavers to notice you
charging the ship is pretty much free
quasi crystal
I've seen them make a truce and focus me, still never died unintentionally but it does happen
lyric osprey
hey all my items just suddenly became delicate watches, missles mk1 and lost seers lens
what happened?
quasi crystal
You hit a shrine of order
blazing garnet
With Chef being Chef, is there any way to make him work? He's interesting (even though he has my least favorite primary fire in the game)
pastel epoch
With Chef being Chef, is there any way to make him work? He's interesting (even ...
Outside of E8, I liked him somewhat more after picking up Yes Chef
blazing garnet
Outside of E8, I liked him somewhat more after picking up Yes Chef
Yes Chef being his alt special?
pastel epoch
Yes Chef being his alt special?
Yup. There’s more combos that can be done with yes chef I’d argue, main idea is to roll into the enemy, spin around to hit them multiple times while flamethrower is active, or throw out a spread of cleavers while right under their legs with Yes Chef
He can very easily nuke early stage bosses this way
But tbh when you get later and less enemies let you just sit between their legs for free, it does get harder
At least in my experience, Chef is still frail as hell
blazing garnet
Do you have any suggestions for making the ability easier to get?
pastel epoch
Yes Chef also refreshes abilities so you can get more rolls for more mobility. Just first use yes chef for the fireballs or cleavers though, boosted roll sucks.
dawn kelp
will they nerf blind pests?
pastel epoch
Do you have any suggestions for making the ability easier to get?
Do you have the artifact to make enemies spawn outside their usual environments? Turn that one on and maybe the one that makes all enemies in a stage the same one. Keep restarting until you get bisons and just camp that stage. Maybe also enable Sacrifice, too.
livid wedge
will they nerf blind pests?
Doubt it. They're mostly fine
pastel epoch
will they nerf blind pests?
They recently made them less accurate if they’re off screen iirc
dawn kelp
also how does meditate work on seeker?
blazing garnet
Do you have the artifact to make enemies spawn outside their usual environments?...
Alright thank you
blazing garnet
also how does meditate work on seeker?
You input the keys it says to (idk if its different on console but on PC its just the movement in the direction of the arrow) and it gives you a stack of something I dont remember the name of
At 7 stacks, you revive any dead teammates and non-dead teammates get an extra life
You get something that full heals you when your health gets low but I'm not sure if you get a self revive
livid wedge
Unfortunately, it's not a full heal
frail garden
Any chance there is news on a patch?
surreal zodiac
is railgunner alt special really worth it?
blazing garnet
Unfortunately, it's not a full heal
Its not? How much is it?
quasi crystal
is railgunner alt special really worth it?
yes
i’ve never gone back to default special
surreal zodiac
that worth it huh
quasi crystal
Yea
not having the 5second disabling of all skills AND it has freezing + killing instantly at low health
for the way i play its a direct upgrade despite doing less damge
blazing garnet
I'd say the main reason you'd want the default special is for hitting 1M damage
livid wedge
Its not? How much is it?
I think it gets you to like 80% or something when you hit 25%
blazing garnet
I think it gets you to like 80% or something when you hit 25%
Damn
Well she can full heal by using one extra ability on a crowd ig
serene vector
alt special is just more versatile esp when dealing with crowds plus you can use it as a propellant to jump higher
quasi crystal
yeah
ornate turtle
About how long is a meter in-game?
quasi crystal
At least in my experience, Chef is still frail as hell
It'd be wild if chef, the robot melee survivor had the armor, regen and base health buff that other robots and melee survivors had
full apex
About how long is a meter in-game?
focus crystal is 13m radius and 1 fungus is 3m, idk if that helps what youre looking for
ornate turtle
Ahhh thank you that helps a bit
full apex
i tried measuring some other stuff but im not sure it helped be any clearer lol
full apex
hes got default stats right? like commando?
yeaaa hes a base boi lol
trim narwhal
time to use the chef gameplay loop of running in melee and cooking them for hp drops with commando stats
surely this doesnt risk disaster on later stages
it does feel pretty strong early though at least
well the 0.5coeffs also part of why scaling is sad too
10000% infinite range piercing 3.0 coeff supercharge vs 10000% boosted cleaver but only on grounded melee with commando frailty with 0.5 coeff and also its multihit so no band abuse for you either
full apex
clearly you arent abusing his free aoe damage
am i the only one who didnt know this is what the hidden buff did? i never paid attention and just noticed it. i wondered if it had a proc coeff and it seems it does?.. 32%?..
this is pretty silly. also this super shitty basically no damage 1 tick burn is a turbo fuck you to all other DoT effects thanks to the bug lmao, chef being nearby anything while boosted basically guarantees insta clearing their DoTs
rip collapse 😔
its doing its best
quasi crystal
Chef is no longer f
blazing garnet
clearly you arent abusing his *free aoe damage*
Wait is Chefs alt special like Captains special where you can only use it once or something?
peak jacinth
Wait is Chefs alt special like Captains special where you can only use it once o...
pretty sure it buffs your next attack like in ror1/rorr, so you just can’t use it twice in a row
glacial knoll
focus crystal is 13m radius and 1 fungus is 3m, idk if that helps what youre loo...
Bungus starts at 3.5 better to just use unityexplorer for the actual radius
trim narwhal
am i the only one who didnt know this is what the hidden buff did? i never paid ...
yea, i noticed tested his coeffs back in the day while checking boosted abilities
its also really annoying because counting boosted m2 ticks to see if it was different via bleed stacking
would get reset by the 0.32 burn sometimes
steady stone
Does brittle crown transfer money to the attacker or do you just lose it?
It came up and we're wondering if there's some silly stuff you could do like in multiplayer with tincture or something
full apex
Its lost
steady stone
I figured
full apex
They toyed with making it captured by the damage source so fall damage and stuff would just refund to your pockets, but it meant monsters stole it and you just got it back when you killed them
So brittle had quite literally no downside, and the change was reverted pretty fast
Which sucks, because i really think like rex self damage shouldn't just erase money... They could have fixed the inventory thing and kept that part instead of full revert but eh
steady stone
Maybe not for Rex actually yeah, but gilded on a lunar would be kinda op
full apex
Funny thing is, gilded enemies stealing gold to their pockets (and also gaining gold on hit) means any money you lose you just get back plus whatever bonus they got haha
And i believe just like when they changed brittle, it should redistribute in multiplayer which is funny.
steady stone
Can a gilded enemy take money from a turret and give it to you? Or can it give it to the turret if the turret kills it?
I know pennies don't give you money on turrets, so I'd assume they have their own money stash
full apex
Hmmm good question, i think killing an enemy pays out to the team so turrets wouldn't get a cut same as drones
They would be able to generate money in theory tho with gilded, and im not sure if enemies would take their gold if they killed them. I don't think they would but im not sure
To generate gold on hit with gilded, you need to have gold... But attacking them while the shield is up would give them something to work with
steady stone
Theoretically they have gold? Something goes on with pennies and I'm not sure if nothing happens if they get hit or if they actually get the gold
full apex
It could definitely be tested
steady stone
If pennies would work there would be nothing stopping them from getting gold on kill as long as they're already placed
So theoretical glitch for more money if it works
iirc sentries are basically "players" but with AI
full apex
The main idea is how to redistribute money from the turrets inventory
Cause you can give them brittle already i think
steady stone
If the gilded died would it give the respective money back to the turret?
If so what if we deleted it by placing a new one?
full apex
Is the idea getting the money out of the turrets via them putting it into a gilded enemy?
full apex
Ah yea
When the gilded enemy dies it should just distribute its pockets among the players so yea any gold yoinked from the turrets will go to the players even if the turrets are alive
steady stone
Ah it splits among players?
full apex
Theoretically they could steal from other monsters too lol, like void touched ones
steady stone
I would've assumed it returned instead of split, but that would make it easy
full apex
Ah it splits among players?
Yea in MP a lot of stuff likes to distribute. Blood shrines go straight to the user but like ghors tome pickups distribute
steady stone
Wonder how the "optimal players" would play around the gilded elites then. Surely some tech there to get enough to full loot in like a few seconds
glacial knoll
2 player controlled checks doubt the theory works
steady stone
Ah that would make sense
glacial knoll
Just become a gilded elite and have chaos enabled easy life
steady stone
At least we still have 
on one player 
on second player
full apex
I know you can technically farm gold by letting gilded elites attack you, ive tested that lol. It doesn't seem fast enough to be worthwhile though i think
steady stone
Yeah that's why I was wondering moreso on passive with turrets. Something strong like stone titan laser maybe and you place it and go loot.
full apex
I haven't tried in a run esp because they hit hard, but maybe if you had a gilded lem or something you could let it nibble you idk
glacial knoll
I don't think farming gold via rounding error is gonna be efficient
steady stone
Well the original theory wasn't rounding error, it was using the sentry wallet
full apex
Gilded profits from the on hit effect though right? I know I've tried it but i guess i dont rember how much, is it actually just a +/- 1 rounding error always?.
That seems a bit redundant if so, spending some gold to get the same amount back is wasted particle effects haha
glacial knoll
I did like a 100k from a titan and I got like i thin 101k back
full apex
From their attack or from shooting the shield?
glacial knoll
their attacks
full apex
Gotcha
It might just be basically nothing then either way
I figured it would be bad but hoped for slightly more hahaha
glacial knoll
them hitting you is 2 gold you hitting them is 1 interesting ig
It is misleading as hell tbh like you'd expect the gold to be gone but like then they're horrible elites
but as it is now it's just kinda yeah added noise
full apex
Yea, i think the idea is just beefing the shield
The stealing that is, from the shield
Their gold on hit effect costing gold is very weird to me
Redistributing your funds in multiplayer though is a pretty funny byproduct
glacial knoll
new thing to add to the list
whatever the hell this is
this is inflating the econemy
this did make gold somehow
full apex
Incredible
glacial knoll
I guess it only steals gold from players, it just does the effect regardless every other time
so it doesn't steal gold from turrets it just, prints money
full apex
What are the player checks for? Im assuming if turrets get money from pennies, idk that 4sure, then attacking the shield should definitely siphon right?
If you spawned the beebles they shouldn't have had money initially to generate anything from the onhit so it had to come from something else
glacial knoll
They don't even need the pennies alright so, theory busted I guess
they just make money by hitting or getting hit by gilded elites
glacial knoll
14 free dollars isn't really much but sure
tell the drone haters "having drones makes gilded elites stronger"
full apex
Are the player checks causing it to yoink money from stuff without money? Lol
Or do you just always give to the shield even if ur broke
glacial knoll
If player and player money above 0 OR notPlayer do money orb
full apex
Huh
Fancy
forest linden
A couple questions about ICBM:
- Does ICBM stack with itself? If yes, how so?
- Is there anything that is affected by ICBM other than ATGs, Plimp, and Fireworks?
livid wedge
2 and engineers harpoons
1 additional stacks of icbm make the rockets deal 50% more damage but does not increase missile count
forest linden
Alrighty. Thanks
stark mesa
Risk of rain 2 is crossplay? ( pc and control )
livid wedge
Only between epic and steam
woven talon
how do i get full screen? i cant find any setting for it (unless im just blind lol)
just bought the game btw
oh wait it just randomly activated lmao
quick burrow
full apex
console and pc cannot crossplay
rancid jewel
What do gilded elites do?
wide parrot
Steal ur money
left trellis
more specifically
they occasionally put up a little gilded shield
while the shield is up, hitting them takes money from you
the more money they take from you, the more armor they get (even while the shield is down), meaning they get tankier overall
marble osprey
Is that right? I thought they only had armor while the shield was up, or that's what the wiki says at least
wide parrot
Which wiki
full apex
Is that right? I thought they only had armor while the shield was up, or that's ...
correct
60+10% money
(which is fucked btw lmao)
shield is 5s up 15s down, so 25% uptime across 20s cycles
this is a pretty funny glitch with them rn lol
the shield breaks with certain sources of damage with no inventory like the lava which causes it to tick every frame and completely melt them haha. i gave them like 400 armor to survive in the clip and they still did not last a second
daring cloak
Does the same happen to survivors with the aspect or wov?
Oh wait no it literally shows acrid there
In that case does the same happen to specifically the heretic in that circumstance?
full apex
godmode
daring cloak
Oh
full apex
was literally about to say, flip side beware of this hahaha
the other pretty silly one is pots
every frame youre in range they tick
using noclip for no knockback you get a similar effect to the lava
woven talon
anyone got any tips for someone just getting started with the game?
full apex
theres some good stuff pinned in here, these were my newer player general tips i shared a while back
might be a fair place to start! at least for some ideas on general strategy/how to improve
lavish jacinth
anyone got any tips for someone just getting started with the game?
Pins have some good tips, but the biggest and simplest one I'd give to new players is to focus on getting as much loot from stages as possible. A really common mistake is to panic over the timer and not get any items
an item per minute is a decent pace, ideally you wanna always leave stages with more items than minutes. That'll get easier once you become more familiar with stage layouts
lost plinth
what would you say is the best red for huntress (with NO OTHER ITEMS...)
lavish jacinth
Either 
or Sonorous Whispers
lost plinth
well those are just the best red items
lavish jacinth
well yeah
lost plinth
yeah
lavish jacinth
there's nothing that would be better for huntress specifically, especially with no other items
lavish jacinth
behemoth would be better on average
lost plinth
lavish jacinth
but between those two specifically, shustice would be better, scorp needs higher proc rate to really be effective and huntress's are kinda meh
lavish jacinth
any reason you can't just go with the usual solid options like SDP, clover, sonorous, stompers, etc?
you've got command so it doesn't matter THAT much, you can just pick stuff later on that'll synergize
I guess sonorous is slightly redundant with sacrifice but it's still more items
lost plinth
nevermind i died
lavish jacinth
welp
blazing garnet
Does attack speed affect Chefs cleaver reload?
urban field
I don't think so
agile crystal
Does attack speed affect Chefs cleaver reload?
No
agile crystal
So I'm just kinda stuck with this long ass reload timer?
I think it’s affected by lower CD items but if not then yeah pretty much
Though take this with a grain of salt, Afax, Charlie and God Howard know more than me and I don’t even got the dlc
I’m basing it off how Arti works but she got buffed so atk speed helps her cd
icy topaz
why sometimes huntress's dash stopped her sprinting
lavish jacinth
I think default blink isn't agile, so it would interrupt sprint. Phase blink is agile tho so it shouldn't have that problem
icy topaz
i used phase blink
it mainly happened when i dashed while sprinting to the left/right but sometimes happened even just dashed to the front
lavish jacinth
alright, game is just jank then lol
I'd blame it on sots but I genuinely don't remember if it ever did that before, I feel like it didn't but I don't play huntress much and I probably have dementia
icy topaz
yea i haven't played huntress for too long so not sure if it's caused by stos or other mods
her attack range seems greater too
lavish jacinth
Tbh I have so much muscle memory for sprinting that it could've happened to me and I probably wouldn't even notice lol
sharp hare
Are there mods that help with avoiding crashes
or anything alike that just helps with avoiding crashes
Because i want to avoid situations like this:
nvm i dont have image perms
quasi crystal
One thing you can do is install proper save
lavish jacinth
The game also doesn't crash often except maybe at very late stages, if you're getting crashes early you should ask #ror2-tech-support (check pins first)
sharp hare
ok i have image perms now
sharp hare
One thing you can do is install proper save
i have that but im seeking to avoid crashes like these
quasi crystal
Ah ok just making sure since that prevents crashes from screwing you over lol
Do you have a log mod
sharp hare
Do you have a log mod
im not sure what that is.
Does that save like a notepad of my console when my game crashes? if so i do not
lavish jacinth
Check the pins in tech support, they should tell you how to get your crash log
sharp hare
Also my pc specs are:
Cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Ram: 4 Gb ram (ik this is criticaly bad)
graphics card: Nvida Nvs 510
lavish jacinth
i have that but im seeking to avoid crashes like these
I'm guessing the crash probably has something to do with the modded items though, or any other mods youre running
sharp hare
I'm guessing the crash probably has something to do with the modded items though...
This crash always happen during mithrix fight even without mods. i always thought it was because of my pc specs but it didnt crash for atleast 3 mithrix fights before with the mods.
Also i was using cracked risk of rain 2 since my friends dont have paid but i do own a paid verison of risk of rain 2 but i dont think that was conflicting with it
lavish jacinth
No idea lol
But vanilla crashes are very rare in my experience. It miiiight be an issue with your ram though, maybe keep task manager open on the side next time you play and see how much memory you're using
Consistently crashing at mithrix is odd though
sharp hare
No idea lol
But vanilla crashes are very rare in my experience. It miiiight be a...
Its most likly my ram but since i didnt crash 3 times so i thought i had hope. Its alright ig
lavish jacinth
Well, the tech support channel is the best place to ask about crashes, but if it's your ram then there's obviously not much you can do about it besides close any other programs that are using up memory
sharp hare
alright
glacial knoll
it looks like you're missing a file you sure verifying game files wouldn't just fix it
covert meteor
it looks like you're missing a file you sure verifying game files wouldn't just ...
hey I use your alt skins
they're good
i use them more than base skins
vivid phoenix
I finally got around to playing Risk of Rain 2. I'm pretty bad, not sure if it's because I'm using a controller or overall skill issue.
I'm confused on what the actual gameplay loop. It gets easier the more runs you do? How do you progress?
quasi crystal
How new are you
vivid phoenix
How **new** are you
An hour or two.
I managed to get to the third level with the sniper character though.
quasi crystal
Okay you shouldn't be too stressed out about being stuck you just started
vivid phoenix
How do you progress though?
quasi crystal
daring cloak
How do you progress though?
Practice
quasi crystal
Here's a very good guide
daring cloak
Its about learning and becoming more skilled at the game
left trellis
I finally got around to playing Risk of Rain 2. I'm pretty bad, not sure if it's...
metaprogression isn't much of a thing in RoR2
unlocks change the game but don't necessarily make it easier
quasi crystal
Practice though is the only real answer considering how new you are it'd be information overload
daring cloak
Ye just figure the basics out for the time being
Get a grasp of your survivors, the items and enemies
quasi crystal
That guide does tell you some very good unlockable items that you can get very easily
vivid phoenix
gitgud
quasi crystal
It's not gitgud it's just there's so much to actually tell you
left trellis
mneh. no tbh the answer kinda is gitgud. but like in a not condescending way
vivid phoenix
mneh. no tbh the answer kinda *is* gitgud. but like in a not condescending way
I gotcha, just thought there was some progression involved.
quasi crystal
You will get better just playing, I started playing a few months ago and my skill has skyrocketed
glacial knoll
hey I use your alt skins
hell yeahh
not too many milestones in the game just kinda yeah beat the boss get the achievements
vivid phoenix
Anyone on PC play with a controller? Is the game noticeably harder? I'd use mouse/keyboard but have an injured arm.
prime aspen
Huntress, merc, loader engineer, captain all play well with a controller
But yeah game is harder with one
fresh umbra
I’m assuming not, but does the game save the results of a crashed run?
zinc terrace
metaprogression isn't much of a thing in RoR2
unlocks change the game but don't ...
ehhh, id say there's some notable alt skills that definitely make things easier. i mean starting as default commando and default huntress isn't particularly fun
default commando is mediocre and default huntress is kinda just bad 😭
same goes with some powerful items being locked behind unlocks
woven talon
what are some early good unlocks?
left trellis
ehhh, id say there's some notable alt skills that definitely make things easier....
I mean yes, technically, but the thing they're asking about is, like, metaprogression as intentional game design. Like how in Hades or Dead Cells you're supposed to get stronger between runs, and that's the intended way for you to progress further
But in RoR2 that's not really the case. You have all the tools you need to beat the game right from the start
icy topaz
what are some early good unlocks?
for items, i think 
(fail a shrine of chance 3 times) and 
(kill the 2 elder lemurians in abandoned aqueduct) are good to unlock as early as possible
for characters' skills, commando's alt utility and huntress' alt special ability
vivid phoenix
I'm trying to unlock the mage guy. I've been collectnig some Lunar coins. How can I see how many I have?
rancid jewel
i pushed a dune strider into the pit but i did not get the achievement, why?
blazing garnet
Huge ty
quasi crystal
i pushed a dune strider into the pit but i did not get the achievement, why?
Was it on abandoned aquaduct
rancid jewel
Was it on abandoned aquaduct
yes
daring cloak
That... is weird
floral kraken
how is captain suposed to be built? new to the game
steady stone
proc
generally like 
and such are good
also depends on the loadout though, i'd say
like with diablo, crowbars and bands are always good
and 
is very good with it, same with 
steady stone
yeah, a lot of on hit
he's particularly strong with bleed since most proc is based on the damage of the pellet that activated it
and i'd prefer 
over 
personally since every single pellet spawns a missile
woven talon
whos the strongest of commando, huntress, bandit, mult and artificier? (only characters i have and ive only unlocked the commando slide)
steady stone
all characters are pretty good and have different strengths
i'd say on all default maybe bandit would be the strongest
but it's a pretty close comparison between all of them
i'd say it moreso is just who you like, the "OP" characters are 
steady stone
just play the game and explore for passive unlocks, and use the Logbook to look at some challenges
a lot of unlocks you don't have to go out of your way for, some you do
woven talon
alr, how do i do the "repair the broken robot with an escape pods fuel array", sounds like something easy ngl
steady stone
not at all lol
You have to take || 
|| to ||stage 4 abyssal planes|| and put it in the robot ||on a ledge||
lavish jacinth
also do you know any easy good unlocks i can get?
Are worth going out of your way to get, but it's easier to get once you have engineer unlocked. It's the one where you have to open the secret door on abandoned aqueduct
steady stone
while you have ||fuel array|| falling under half health will instantly kill you
lavish jacinth
Technically it's possible to survive but it'll still destroy the thing and fail the challenge
steady stone
yeah, even if you revive or move on to the next stage in multiplayer it's gone
covert meteor
yeah, even if you revive or move on to the next stage in multiplayer it's gone
its easy on MUL-T though
steady stone
only in multiplayer though
covert meteor
i think i first did it on arti with ion surge though
steady stone
mul-t doesnt have a drop pod
covert meteor
mul-t doesnt have a drop pod
ofc
somewhat annoying that you cant do it with acrid or viend
steady stone
without the same trick, at least
covert meteor
yes
another trick for it is to find an equipment barrel
get whatevers in it
then come back at the end to pick || || back up
steady stone
can also play 
for suicide sentries, the fun way
rancid jewel
what is perfected
daring cloak
An elite type
Normally reserved for specifically the lunar chimera on the moon
However it is also the third form of ally elder lems
As for what the perfected aspect does
Firstly as you can see all hp turns to shield
All attacks also inflict the cripple debuff
And every few seconds a couple fireballs get shot out passively
pure dawn
its the type for your most favoriteist lemurian son
quasi crystal
Does life seed proc on retool mul t if it's not the active equipment
steady stone
i'd assume yes? as long as they aren't mechanical ghosts
there's this on the mask page but it's about ghost infestors
slim spoke
i'd assume yes? as long as they aren't mechanical ghosts
the gummy clone is bullshit
and we all know it
daring cloak
Its specifically referring to mul-t's and rex's goobos
daring cloak
It is badly worded tho I agree
daring cloak
Id say it works pretty well with engi
lavish jacinth
engie is really good with it as long as you're able to handle the lack of mobility
woven talon
does it have a cap?
lavish jacinth
not really
the max number of orbs it can spawn per second is 60, but there's no limit on how many of them you can have total
just focus on getting items, don't get too attached to anything in particular
daring cloak
Avoid cauldrons as its a net negative in item amount
For ego quantity is more important than quality
lavish jacinth
buy any healing drones you find if you weren't already doing that
it's not a bad idea to look for a mobility equipment like 
steady stone
more stacks of ego means more orbs, it's a spiral item
eventually it will just shred everything and you stop caring about what you pick up
lavish jacinth
yeah, it's pretty weak starting off but it snowballs fast
steady stone
as long as you can go fast enough you can do the run fairly well
the biggest killer can be no move speed
lavish jacinth
at 100 stacks it does something like 21,000% DPS iirc
steady stone
over half a direct diablo per second
lavish jacinth
and triple that if you're playing engie since turrets will also have it
possible quadruple with 
if ego doesn't eat it
steady stone
is the DPS there including initial burst or the dps while actively charging
lavish jacinth
actively charging I think, iirc that's roughly where it hits its fire rate cap so 21k is sort of a soft cap
oh right, and be very careful about mithrix's final phase with ego
slim spoke
iirc you get more dmg per orb aswell, no?
lavish jacinth
no, the damage is fixed at 360%
stacks increase the fire rate, max orbs and range
slim spoke
imagine ...
lofty moth
I'm sorta new to risk of rain 2 can you join another players game mid run and play with them? I tried and was only able to spectate
slim spoke
you respawn next stage i think
lavish jacinth
iirc you can't normally drop in unless the host is running a certain mod
unless it changed at some point
lofty moth
rip
steady stone
DropInMultiplayer would be the mod iirc, it uses commands to join, like "/join loader"
quasi crystal
On the ego thing, if you find a cleansing pool with ego it's insane
quasi crystal
One time I had a puripotent and ego with a pool, crab raid
steady stone
each pearl has a 20% chance to be irradiant 
(see below), 80% to be normal 
(just a health boost)
quasi crystal
Pearls are still good tho
steady stone
by themselves, but not compared to their counterpart
the musket was once good, until the machine gun was made
slim spoke
cant complain
its a lot of hp
quasi crystal
20 pearls is 20 pearls
radiant rose
i’m just getting back into the game after a break did they fix all of the dlc launch bugs
lavish jacinth
i’m just getting back into the game after a break did they fix all of the dlc la...
they fixed the really bad ones but there are still some issues
they're still working on another big bugfix/rebalance patch
serene vector
soon™️
covert meteor
they're still working on another big bugfix/rebalance patch
does that include items>
woven talon
are boss item drops completely random or do i need to kill the boss within a certain amount of time or something?
woven talon
whats the best secondary and special for railgunner?
slim spoke
default for secondary, alt for special
quasi crystal
yes
peak jacinth
whats the best secondary and special for railgunner?
it’s personal preference
both skills are good for both secondary and special
woven talon
are engi turrets capped on 3?
glacial knoll
Capped at 2 normally and 3 with
gray spade
Recyler or Credit card?
marble osprey
Recyler or Credit card?
Recycler is probably stronger, credit card is more fun to me
steady stone
Recyler or Credit card?
they're both good, recycler shines on stage 4 guaranteed red and card can shine on stage 5 with all the trishops. A bit late reply, but for the future
woven talon
is it only stages that get changed when disabling dlc on a run? or can i not get certain items without it active
quasi crystal
everything but survivors will be disabled with the dlc
items, interactables, stages, enemies and bosses will be disabled; you can still use the survivors from the dlcs
lavish jacinth
does that include items>
I think so, yeah
afaik they haven't given specifics on what exactly they're changing, but they've been listening to feedback so they're very aware that the items need work lol
livid wedge
is it only stages that get changed when disabling dlc on a run? or can i not get...
All content excluding the survivor of the dlc is disabled when the dlc is disabled
Includes maps, items, etc
lavish jacinth
good to know
I refuse to use twitter so I have no idea what happens over on social media
marble osprey
Along with this, this is all I know about patch plans
marble osprey
I refuse to use twitter so I have no idea what happens over on social media
I don't use it either I've just seen these screenshots on reddit lmao
icy topaz
“Yes, we will make a new update” then disappeared for 2 months
lavish jacinth
....probably because they're busy working on the update?
reworking half the stuff in the DLC isn't gonna happen overnight
quasi crystal
Everytime you complain about it they delay the update by a week
wide parrot
oh god silksong will release first at this point then
icy topaz
....probably because they're busy working on the update?
I know, I was joking
covert meteor
fowarded to myself so i have something to look foward to lol
brazen sluice
hey @full apex heres another one for you: whats the logic behind when alpha constructs go in and out of sleep mode? i assume going into sleep is a distance or line-of-sight thing, but waking up seems completely random (aside from being attacked of course)
glacial knoll
if out of combat and out of danger it hides
so it needs to not attack for 5s and not get hit for 7s
daring cloak
Have you guys tried out yet what happens to the halcyon seed when you exit a stage in the middle of the tp event via the halcyon shrine's portal?
Since the seed exits your inventory and only comes back once auri dies or the tp event is over
honest schooner
Genuine question
I think its been 2 months now WHEN IS THE NEXT DLC UPDATE HAPPENING 😭
daring cloak
We dont know
quasi crystal
Delayed
daring cloak
Ive also been curious
honest schooner
is there any news on a POTENTIAL timeframe of its release?
daring cloak
Could you kill yourself purely by blood shrines/void cradles with warped echo's delayed damage?
honest schooner
or any fans projections of it 😭
daring cloak
is there any news on a POTENTIAL timeframe of its release?
No, maybe it will happen on the ror anniversary but I wouldnt get my hopes up
glacial knoll
Could you kill yourself purely by blood shrines/void cradles with warped echo's ...
If original source of damage is tagged as NonLethal then the Echo will be too
So no to that and flall damage
daring cloak
Are shrines that though?
glacial knoll
yeah
daring cloak
Huh neat even though they cant be used when you lack the health to spend in the first place
glacial knoll
yee
quasi crystal
Wait, Coincidentally do all non lethal damages take curse into effect
glacial knoll
Idk what that means entirely
like with shaped glass 55 health is just the new 100% so like
quasi crystal
Do they look at curse before calculating damage
quasi crystal
Curse is definitely looked at for shrines and cradles
glacial knoll
well like if you have 99% curse and only 2 hp the shrine will take 1hp for 50% health
sinful fractal
For artifact of command, is it better to go Mocha or syringe + hoof/energy drink
daring cloak
Doesnt really make a difference
2 mochas is essentially the exact same as 1 syringe and 1 hoof
sinful fractal
The more you know. Thanks
woven talon
does rusty key work in simulacrum?
daring cloak
Yes but good luck finding the box and surviving
sharp hare
What does the shrine of shaping do
daring cloak
You lose 30% max hp but get revived if you die
Both the revive and 30% max hp penalty go away once you die or go to the next stage
analog brook
For that stage 
sharp hare
You lose 30% max hp but get revived if you die
if i happened to have 5 shaped glass and i have only 1 hp can i still use it?
daring cloak
Of course
Actually I do wonder
With 127 shaped glass would you survive the shrines curse?
analog brook
No
analog brook
Unless it just, barely, scrapes right under the float limit
livid wedge
You might
full apex
It adds curse so technically i dont think it removes exactly 30% by itself
livid wedge
Unless it just, barely, scrapes right under the float limit
That's what I'm thinking
analog brook
WOSHHDDUIEOSJSJDOSK THATS CRAZY
full apex
But adding 0.3 when glass is adding billions for the last stacks is inconsequential
daring cloak
Theres no way right
sharp hare
my 12 gestures 😭
analog brook
GEARBOX W QUESTION MARK???
full apex
Even glass artifact which multiplies only drops it to 125
analog brook
Charlotte you arnt gonna bat an eye about the shrine of shaping killing them??? 😭😭😭😭
daring cloak
Also the shrine appears to still be unused
analog brook
The fact it can kill you is ABSURD
glacial knoll
shrine doesn't even look used it just killed them through radiation
full apex
Idk if mod shenanigans would be at play 
analog brook
What happens if you have like 100 Dios but you use it, infinite deathloop?
full apex
But yea id assume if shaping killed you, youd revive after?.
glacial knoll
one tick of difference probably
daring cloak
But yea id assume if shaping killed you, youd revive after?.
And also still live because the shrines curse goes away once you die
full apex
What happens if you have like 100 Dios but you use it, infinite deathloop?
The shrine undoes when you die so if the revive is consumed i assume no looping. But regularly maxing glass will loop you yea
livid wedge
full apex
Theres only one shaped glass here so its hard to imagine shaping could add enough curse to kill...
sharp hare
Theres only one shaped glass here so its hard to imagine shaping could add enoug...
i dont know why it says 1 i had 5
full apex
Unless modded items do something, idk what those are
sharp hare
i kind of dont even know which items are modded items since i never tried the game without mods 🤔
well i did but i didnt do much
analog brook
That's kinda crazy ngl
full apex
2, 8, 21, 24, 33, 34, 37, 38,
I think the one before brittle is solitude right? Kinda hard to tell
daring cloak
Yup
full apex
11 items per row so like 33 is last of third row
daring cloak
If you did actually die to that shrine its most likely because of a mod tho
Especially since those shrines normally cant spawn in sky meadows so at least one mod is fiddling around with those shrines
glacial knoll
it'd need to bug out curse penalty not really much else that could happen
full apex
Curse is in recalc stats so not necessarily something that would surprise me
glacial knoll
if old a mod does a IL.hook to recalc that could go bad but other than that idk
sharp hare
2, 8, 21, 24, 33, 34, 37, 38,
2: item on lvl up - 8: hits that do more then 400% do bleed 21: upon kill add 1% to teleporter charge 24: heal based off (i forgot) 33: deal dmg to nearby enemys 37:8% attack speed and movement speed for 5sec 38: dmg on jump
glacial knoll
but you do not get the revive buff and the curse buff at the exact same time so
still shrine doesn't look used you sure god didn't just hit you with a meteor
full apex
ah icic
sharp hare
still shrine doesn't look used you sure god didn't just hit you with a meteor
it happened the second i used the shrine. my game did lag but it happens whenever i use any shrine
by lag my fps dropped down to 0 for a second
glacial knoll
works fine with 125 glass
full apex
it happened the second i used the shrine. my game did lag but it happens wheneve...
this sounds like important info
wide parrot
2: item on lvl up - 8: hits that do more then 400% do bleed 21: upon kill add 1%...
What does 34 do?
full apex
do you mean any shrines kill you? if so i doubt its shaping specifically. and if its from using shaping twice, normally you cant do that
glacial knoll
Using Shaping multiple times doesn't stack curse either
they didn't account for the "Soul" cost type to ever be used for anything ever again
sharp hare
do you mean any shrines kill you? if so i doubt its shaping specifically. and if...
any shrines other then shrine of chance. i have 4 gb of ram and its usually at 3.8 when im playing any game its caused by vfx im guessing. so i belive its just bad pc overall
full apex
whats shaping interactable called?
glacial knoll
shrinecolossusaccess
glacial knoll
really obvious that it was just a green newt shrine early on yeah
full apex
but yea 127 glass and shaping dont do it either
glacial knoll
it's just set buff count instead of add buffs
full apex
kinda makes sense maybe idk
glacial knoll
both here and in the costtype catalog
I wish SetBuffCount was used a lot more often but like it's as simple as one line that's just "get buff count"
so yknow you could combine them if any other interactable ever used the cost
full apex
also yea since its 30% added to curse its not -30% hp to 70%, it ends up being 77% ish
42% curse would be closer to true 30% removed but im not surprised this is how they describe it
and 30% curse is fairly close to 20% removed so just over 1/5, so its not as scary as it sounds
good lord how many afflictions does it take to kill from 127 glass lmao is it even possible
doesnt seem like it
i wanted to try dying from shaping to see what happens but i think it might not be possible to do lmao
afflictions hit integer limit before its enough, idk if adding e8 would even be enough.
glacial knoll
full apex
ok just going to 128 glass it consumes shaping first which is expected so i assume youd just die once and be fine
glacial knoll
Ima assume god just truck down this random user and it wasn't the shrine or the mods
full apex
if any non-chance shrine kills then its probably mod jank
like no reason combat shrines should touch anything in your stats
sharp hare
Ima assume god just truck down this random user and it wasn't the shrine or the ...
I think that was the case
judign from the image i was in this area of the map
and im guessing rock can reach here
im not 100% sure since i downloaded this game 6 days ago and i have 60 hours of playtime
glacial knoll
I doubt it was a rock but yeah idk what coulda happened
full apex
60 hours without ever experiencing just base game is pretty funny
glacial knoll
I should add unique death icon to rock
daring cloak
and the rocks get pretty close
But they never go onto the main islands
full apex
daring cloak
The rocks take the lane through the 2 rock bridges with all the holes
livid wedge
Guess there's an ror2 update?
calm tiger
yeah idk what it is
full apex
is there?
daring cloak
Well it aint giving me an update
calm tiger
on xbox
full apex
oh it just came through for me lol
glacial knoll
ah fuck
livid wedge
Ps5
calm tiger
it’s 1.2 gb
full apex
oh i got a 12mb one
livid wedge
Starting it up to see what it could be
calm tiger
guess it’s js diff for everyone 😭
calm tiger
Starting it up to see what it could be
me 2
full apex
no notes yet
daring cloak
If I get that update now the first thing I am doing is check out if the switch has music again
calm tiger
icl i joined the discord to see what the update was 😭
full apex
switch lost music? lmao
livid wedge
Pleaase confirm if it is. I'd finally swap back and play the dlc again if I could hear the music
daring cloak
switch lost music? lmao
It just cuts out VERY frequently and takes ages with barely anything happening to catch back on again
livid wedge
Acrid doesn't take fall damage on leap now on console
daring cloak
DAMMIT SWITCH UPDATE
livid wedge
I thought you didn't like acrid
daring cloak
I need to know if the curse is lifted 
daring cloak
I thought you didn't like acrid
Oh yeah Im mainly praying for the music to be fixed, the crashes to be fixed and chrysalis to be fixed
And my egg bug to not be fixed
livid wedge
I'll test the chrysalis too
glacial knoll
Nox Thorn seems to be fixed from the code also it's now 3 bleeds instead of 1 bleed so
description un changed
daring cloak
description un changed
I was about to ask 
livid wedge
Chrysalis appears unchanged
glacial knoll
Antler Shield is still 50 not 55%
Damage is still shit
I assume this is like a long over due bug fix patch or smth I don't get it
livid wedge
No buff and you still don't do a little push forward on jumps for it
full apex
ughh i have work i need to do but im excited to see what gets updated ||may or may not have been looking forward to this already...||
livid wedge
At least elite spawn is fixed
full apex
nah im just psychic 
daring cloak
My switch still aint updating
glacial knoll
Twisteds seem unchanged
full apex
there it is!
daring cloak
Also neat suncles is community manager again
full apex
scrapping antler shield in the gif is hilarious. also reworked into movement item, interesting
daring cloak
ALL ITEMS EXCEPT FOR SALE STAR CHANGED
full apex
pulsar nova
I think it needs it
daring cloak
OH MY GOD YES LESS LIGHTNING AND GOLEM SPAM IN THE FS FIGHT
LMAO
"the false son should feel like an unhinged construct creation"
full apex
'Laser of the Father feel more impactful' is interesting, i suppose they fixed it and it felt underwhelming or something
livid wedge
I hope they get around to the map weights too
I barely see verdant falls as a starter
daring cloak
Well this looks pretty promising
daring cloak
I hope they cook with lunar spikes because its by far my least favourite ability to use as fs
glacial knoll
hmm yeah sometimes
full apex
hmm seems to largely be some core and multiplayer issues, as well as meridian/FS stuff. the items and survivors stuff im most interested to test seem to probably be coming in the roadmap...
glacial knoll
3 bleed 25% of the time is strong
full apex
glacial knoll
bro sent it 2 months to late
full apex
thats both bugs for it i have tracked marked as handled, the only other item in my list was about LunarDetonator not being included, which may be shadow-changed or was intentional and will not be changed
daring cloak
Nooo they fixed the noxious aggro jank
full apex
oh nice
glacial knoll
it still uses the enemies proc coeff god damn it dude
full apex
im charlotte yes
daring cloak
Since I cant do it yet can you quickly check if the out of bounds jank of egg still works?
glacial knoll
It's been 2 months surely they coulda done phase 1
full apex
i never really got to try it in multiplayer
glacial knoll
modders are going to implement this by tomorrow
full apex
It's been 2 months surely they coulda done phase 1
i wonder if a lot is done already or in the works waiting to be properly grouped in the phases. tbh im surprised noxious is largely addressed but no other items were
glacial knoll
Well Nox was literally non functional for like 3 months
full apex
it looks like twisteds are in the works and antler at least had that image so i suspect it may be in the works, so theres def stuff thats probably done that we dont have yet
glacial knoll
You can see the Knockback Fin rework stunning enemies
full apex
i dont know how heavy the fixed stuff was since its mostly MP and stuff that i didnt test
daring cloak
I like how the twisted's new way of reflecting damage looks
glacial knoll
wonder if even a single spawn pool got fixed
full apex
i kinda wonder if its worth testing many of my tracked issues yet since they arent marked as handled. i kinda wanted to wait for a more substantial update, i wonder how far out the next patch is
glacial knoll
nope of course not
I expected far more for 2 months
at least they got Suncles now
full apex
truuuuu
suncles ended up being the one to handle my submitted doc so i suspect hes helping organize stuff, at least community interactions ofc
glacial knoll
lets see burns
daring cloak
Oh tru
glacial knoll
nope
daring cloak
NOOOOOOOOOO
full apex
oh yea are dots fixed
not marked but its one of the biggest ones i want to see and was hoping would be in the first patch.
daring cloak
glacial knoll
gonna have to go through all the reports to bump to show hey still a problem
full apex
now that im noticing it, its interesting noxious is being fixed here despite being listed in the 'full rework' section.
glacial knoll
well at least they fixed ambry logs
full apex
maybe thats the reason its the only item change here, they fixed it before deciding to rework it entirely and were like 'fuck it just fix it for now well replace it later'
daring cloak
well at least they fixed ambry logs
And impact?
glacial knoll
nope
full apex
need to check pools. im away from the game now but im curious too if village stage 1 boss printer req is changed
full apex
if ur in rn wolfo could you check 4 me 👉 👈 🥺
glacial knoll
Swamp and roost still has no dlc spawns ever
glacial knoll
need to check pools. im away from the game now but im curious too if village sta...
unchanged
full apex
not super surprised considering the other stuff isnt yet
glacial knoll
this is 2 days of work we had 60 days
full apex
i wonder (and hope) that phase 1 will be hitting soon.
glacial knoll
2 days is generous even but like cmon
daring cloak
At least they got a solid plan of whats ahead so they hopefully pick up the pace now
full apex
i really dont want to doomer but i was expecting more, though if a lot of work was put into organization and collection and analyzation first then actual fixes may come faster? i have no idea what their internals look like.
-# wolfo how long did it take you to -fix everything you fixed lmao
daring cloak
Oh yeah definitely I am a little disappointed how many rather frequent/impactful bugs still remain
Like console chrysalis being near unusable
Or the spawnpool oopsies
glacial knoll
-# ~~wolfo how long did it take you to -fix everything you fixed lmao~~
Well the spawn pools like 1 day of just doing it, and the item mod so so every now and again but like. Both together isn't more than a work week
Good that they're taking feedback but like cmon dude a lot of these things don't take hours
daring cloak
Oh wow new knockback fin looks interesting in the linked yt video
It has a stackable debuff now
full apex
i really am curious if like a lot of time was spent finding bugs and identifying problems without immediately addressing them
fiery knot
what y'all talking bout
daring cloak
what y'all talking bout
New patch
full apex
i could understand planning out changes taking a while, and if changes are already found then actual patches for them could be fairly timely
glacial knoll
anyways yeah as said 3 bleed
chilly lodge
I noticed that they didn't mention any new skills for old or new survivors, just reworks. Do you/they plan on adding any new ones?
daring cloak
Unsure
glacial knoll
Certainly not for old ones
peak jacinth
damn this patch is… a bit of a nothing burger
chilly lodge
that's kinda sad ;<
peak jacinth
glad they’re giving us a roadmap for fixing more things
fiery knot
Eh it's something
livid wedge
God, I'm on titanic plain first stage and there 3 chests and a multishop
That's it
Sorry, 2 chests, not 3
deep temple
can someone summarise the update, please
my device somehow can’t handle steam right now
daring cloak
A few bug fixes and noxious thorn buffs
The real deal is the roadmap of future updates they provided
deep temple
ah
daring cloak
In short expect item and elite reworks soon, then false son fight rebalances and then survivor rebalances
livid wedge
Bruh, come on, how is 3 items a valid pool for the first stage
peak jacinth
can someone summarise the update, please
my device somehow can’t handle steam ri...
A bunch of visual bugs have been fixed, but not many item bug changes because they’re fixing them and reworking them later down the road
safe ice
double elite spawn is fixed, thats the only major bug for now
deep temple
do you have a screenshot of these patch notes
daring cloak
do you have a screenshot of these patch notes
Nop Im still looking through it all myself
livid wedge
I'm restarting, that was actually a garbage start
full apex
Is T1.5 completely removed
steady stone
T1.5?
daring cloak
The elite type for specifically gildeds
full apex
The cause of many elites
steady stone
Ah
peak jacinth
Is T1.5 completely removed
that’s what they’ve said
steady stone
I should probably read the notes then, for when people ask here
safe ice
they didnt say anything specific
full apex
They said the spawns were changed, but im curious how they did it specifically
safe ice
i guess anyone can check now
daring cloak
They said the spawns were changed, but im curious how they did it specifically
Everything is elite now
If everything is elite nothing is 
But I would assume they primarily just meant the elite spawns being fixed
glacial knoll
What
daring cloak
What does this mean
steady stone
Fixing the fire ending DoT bug?
glacial knoll
that is a 2s job and is not fixed
This is for Noxious Thorn
This is entirely unneeded if you just, did it smarter but alright, I guess
steady stone
Oh I thought it was just a standard define
glacial knoll
Idk why they would add 2 flags for Noxious Thorn of all things
jovial thistle
Has pot rolling been fixed in the new update?
steady stone
I think it's been fixed/very unreliable since sots launch
daring cloak
Potrolling isnt broken
steady stone
They overhauled the physics engine, indirectly fixing things like bumping
daring cloak
Its just different physics
steady stone
Yeah I've heard it's harder but still a thing
jovial thistle
Its just different physics
so broken still got it
daring cloak
Its not broken lmao
safe ice
they did not mention anything about physics being different
jovial thistle
doesn't work
daring cloak
Literally works just differently
livid wedge
It's working as intended ie not broken
daring cloak
And if I can be honest
The current phyiscs are WAY more realistic than the old ones
jovial thistle
nah a lot of spots are actually impossible with the 'new' (worse) physics
daring cloak
nah a lot of spots are actually impossible with the 'new' (worse) physics
Ok and
Like just adapt to it
livid wedge
Skill issue
daring cloak
Its not going back to the old physics anyways
jovial thistle
Yeah that is a skill issue on Wertus' part I agree
livid wedge
Bait used to be believable
steady stone
A lot of things are strange like trimping now though.
Like trimping sometimes makes you take fall damage from your velocity
jovial thistle
WE need proper trimping back
livid wedge
This server really has a lot of blockable people
daring cloak
Yeah like
jovial thistle
Got ahead
steady stone
I miss bumping but other than that it's fine
Bumping was like a huge OP bug but it was fun
jovial thistle
new isn't better or worse by default that is true. But these changes just makes ROR2 a slightly worse game, there really isn't much to it
daring cloak
Not really
steady stone
You can always downpatch
jovial thistle
What do you think I have been doing lol
steady stone
Or just wait for the rest to be fixed and play without DLC
jovial thistle
also what I have been doing
steady stone
Many ror2 players just dont like change, including me
We have so many hours in the old and after such a long drought we had such high expectations
But the game was this bad when their respective updates launched too
livid wedge
It could be worse, it could dead cells
daring cloak
Its just a fresh start to some stuff you got used to
livid wedge
I stopped playing that for a year and it became unrecognizable
jovial thistle
havn't played DC in years
steady stone
SOTV was nowhere near perfect on launch, now it's the best thing ever
jovial thistle
SOTV was nowhere near perfect on launch, now it's the best thing ever
after the roadmap is over we can talk (about it being the best thing ever)
olive aspen
would anyone be able to help me with the strategy right now?
steady stone
Yeah, we'll see I suppose.
olive aspen
i'm having trouble beating the game on monsoon
jovial thistle
would anyone be able to help me with the strategy right now?
for what?
steady stone
I have high hopes if they get given time, they seem to be passionate for the game.
steady stone
i'm having trouble beating the game on monsoon
#lfg-pc-ror2 or the respective other consoles
jovial thistle
I have high hopes if they get given time, they seem to be passionate for the gam...
I trust in SeventeenUncles 🙂
steady stone
I trust in SeventeenUncles 🙂
Glad he's back as community manager, but hope to still see Preston around the bug reports.
He seemed like he genuinely cared about the community and was just a guy
olive aspen
i wasn't trying to create a group for it i was just curious what you guys were doing to get consistent runs. I'm not sure if i should be taking the blue portals or how long i should be taking or how many items i should get
jovial thistle
i'm having trouble beating the game on monsoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0sHUs0qv5k
Try Raydans for advice
daring cloak
i wasn't trying to create a group for it i was just curious what you guys were d...
Its all a matter of practice
steady stone
Micromanage your items, scrap bad items before you find a good printer
Chances are you find a printer but no scrapper, but there was a scrapper last stage
jovial thistle
i wasn't trying to create a group for it i was just curious what you guys were d...
It really depends on what you are struggling with
steady stone
And use map knowledge like the guaranteed red stage 4, and cauldrons on moon
Also you learn what items are good on certain characters with experience
olive aspen
i'm not sure what either of those are
steady stone
What? Printers? The reds?
olive aspen
red and cauldrons
jovial thistle
General advice would be to know the maps, always move, know what to build towards
steady stone
Stage 4 has a guaranteed red chest on 2 stages and a hidden boss that drops a red on the third (siren's)
Red being like 
Cauldrons are a variant of printers, like 1 red turns into 5 greys
You can find them in Newt or on the moon
olive aspen
oh okay
jovial thistle
But seriously watch some youtube guides
olive aspen
is it a bad idea to try and do it on commando first
earnest bone
why do people keep saying the game is screwed i haven't noticed any problems and i have the dlcs
steady stone
Not at all! All characters are good
Personal preference determines who you might be best with, and experience
jovial thistle
There are some survivors which are considered stronger
Such as Loader
Railgunner
Viend
steady stone
why do people keep saying the game is screwed i haven't noticed any problems and...
People don't like the company and it had a bad start. That and they're just stupid and think the devs are the same people working on the board game and the original release date
steady stone
There are some survivors which are considered stronger
They may be stronger but huntress for example is easy and good for learning dodging skills
jovial thistle
is it a bad idea to try and do it on commando first
But everyone is viable! (except Chef is really undertuned atm, so maybe wait for the roadmap to progress)
earnest bone
People don't like the company and it had a bad start. That and they're just stup...
oh ok is there a reason they don't like the company or are people just wanting to complain
steady stone
Since she has autoaim she can focus on dodging
olive aspen
how many items do you go for per stage and how long is too long
i keep hearing different things
jovial thistle
oh ok is there a reason they don't like the company or are people just wanting t...
Nah gearbox is bad, but that doesn't mean that the ROR2 team on gearbox has to be bad!
steady stone
oh ok is there a reason they don't like the company or are people just wanting t...
Just Randy and the USB, and they're upset their DLC wasn't perfect on launch
That and the higher ups don't care that much
earnest bone
ah got it
steady stone
The devs seem cool, but not the millionaires, as long as the game makes money
earnest bone
how many items do you go for per stage and how long is too long
i, as long with other people i've heard from, generally agree that you should get every item that you can find in a stage, as having more items outweighs the difficulty progression
jovial thistle
how many items do you go for per stage and how long is too long
Stick to efficiency if you are still finding items on the stage and you can move efficiently then you gucci. Just watch the video I shared earlier (here for simplicity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0sHUs0qv5k)
steady stone
how many items do you go for per stage and how long is too long
The 5 minute rule was a thing made up by streamers on launch when everybody was new. Good items and builds will always be stronger than enemy scaling, especially if the amount of items is more than minutes passed.
earnest bone
i, as long with other people i've heard from, generally agree that you should ge...
keep in mind that i haven't played as long as other people i could have the wrong strat but since i started playing this way i've been getting better runs
jovial thistle
The 5 minute rule was a thing made up by streamers on launch when everybody was ...
Mah streamer has permanently tainted the community with that comment, even the streamer (woolie) is giving different advice now!
steady stone
One will be stronger than 50 
or 50 
, in terms of builds being powerful.
olive aspen
do you guys take the lunar items and the blue portals?
steady stone
Mah streamer has permanently tainted the community with that comment, even the s...
Yeah we don't like him here, really
jovial thistle
do you guys take the lunar items and the blue portals?
BLue portals yes, lunars no (too strong) lol
steady stone
He's said some things
Lunars are fun, but are also OP
At least some of them are, but it's a single player at the end of the day
olive aspen
so i should use them if im trying to win
steady stone
If you see it as okay go ahead
jovial thistle
If you want an easy time getting Monsson wins go to the bazaar and get Transcendence (the beetle) then you can scrap all your healing items and get mad meta advantage with scrap and printers!
steady stone
Some people find it cheap
earnest bone
do you guys take the lunar items and the blue portals?
i always like to see what's in the portals, and the pods are up to you, i personally always open them cuz i made a rule for myself where if glass is to be exist glass is to be in my inventory
(tonic with gesture) 
are all good
can be good
jovial thistle
i always like to see what's in the portals, and the pods are up to you, i person...
Take note that mount here is talking about the randomly spawning pods, which are generally more favourably looked upon than the lunar shop
steady stone
if you don't care about procs, like desperado build
jovial thistle
And the soups and stage scrying in the blue portal are widely accepted as the good choice / go to between stages if you can find the blue orbs