game-questions-returns

[inland ether]

playable Lemurian when

[boreal ermine]

there's already a mod that does that, though its not herolem so

[inland ether]

I guess I have to wait for heroLem to be available

[charred dawn]

Where do you get the like control presets?

[still nova]

Yall got mods working?

[tender gazelle]

yeah

[deft snow]

Can someone send me a modcode for their r2modman pls

[reef stirrup]

Are they ever gonna put returns on console?

[valid finch]

No

[grim stream]

What’s pilot’s appeal? I never quite understood what people like about him so much no offense to pilot mains tho

[orchid vector]

verticality

[boreal ermine]

pilot breaks alot of the game's usual limitations

[orchid vector]

most enemies cant do anything to you if you're above them

[boreal ermine]

his secondary in particular is alot more than it seems at first

[grim stream]

Any tips for him?

[boreal ermine]

learn how powerful his secondary is
it's very versatile and has potential for extreme damage

it pierces infinitely (no damage degradation), and ignores terrain

[grim stream]

Which abilities should I be using on him?

[boreal ermine]

mostly personal preference
parachute and airstrike if you want the aerial fighter playstyle
aerobatics and aerial support if you wanna be more grounded

the primaries depend on if you want slow and steady crowd control, or just shoot fast and rapidly (doesn't pierce and has spread)

if in doubt, just use the default kit

[grim stream]

Thanks!

[fallow oxide]

Full alt

Alt primary deals a bit more dps and is the best on-hit item proccer in the game

Alt utility lets you wavedash

Alt spec is just easier to use

[grim stream]

What are his specials again?

[fallow oxide]

Default is airstrike

Alt is aerial support

Alt marks a target and deals DoT

Default sets a mine

[grim stream]

No offense but I don’t see how the alt special is better the default one launches enemies so you can follow up with the m2.

It just comboes a lot better

[fallow oxide]

Default can potentially just sit there doing nothing

If you mark something with alt, it always hits

[boreal ermine]

default works better for the aerial fighter loadout

[fallow oxide]

Easier to hit high value targets with alt spec

[grim stream]

I’m trying a full alt run rn

[boreal ermine]

alt special also doesn't let you do a little hop

[grim stream]

See which loadout I prefer

[fallow oxide]

You know how o wavedash?

[grim stream]

No

[fallow oxide]

You hold jump and down at the same time and then use aerobatics

[boreal ermine]

use it just as you're about to hit the ground

[fallow oxide]

Make sure you hold the jump key

[boreal ermine]

you also need auto jump enabled for that

[grim stream]

Down on your joystick?

[boreal ermine]

yes

aerobatics can be aimed up and down a bit with the same inputs you use to climb ropes

[grim stream]

Where is it in the settings?

[boreal ermine]

accessibility

controls > accessibility i believe

[grim stream]

👍

[boreal ermine]

good setting to have on in general

less hand strain from trying to bunnyhop

[grim stream]

Wow I just did it

That’s a lot of distance

[fallow oxide]

Noice

[boreal ermine]

yeah

[fallow oxide]

ZOOM

[boreal ermine]

if you try to move during it you will stop instantly, be mindful of that

[grim stream]

Is wavedashing something they’re gonna patch out of the game?

[boreal ermine]

no

first of all the game will never get updates again ever

secondly this feature is intentional

[grim stream]

Why???

[boreal ermine]

gearbox publishing disappeared because of take 2 acquisition

[fallow oxide]

They better not

[grim stream]

That sucks

So no new content?

[boreal ermine]

indeed not

but hey

modders are cooking

[grim stream]

Well I play on switch so I guess I’m cooked

lol

I hate take two even more now

[grim stream]

How good is miner?

[boreal ermine]

pretty good

being a berserker his playstyle is rather crackhead

take drill charge if you wanna shred crowds, and drill dash if you wanna really fuck up one guy in particular

[grim stream]

Who’s the best character in the game?

[valid finch]

Robomando or drifter

[grim stream]

Robomando?

Also what are the best abilities to use on drifter?

[valid finch]

Any

Everything she does is extremely strong lol

And yes robomando

Turns out being extremely fast and being able to loot 90% of the stage with no cost is kinda good

[grim stream]

What’s the cooldown on the ability tho?

[boreal ermine]

like 6 seconds or something

you can easily outpace the game's difficulty scaling even on monsoon

[grim stream]

Ok yeah that’s busted

[meager dirge]

There's not really much need, since 5-6 seconds isn't a horribly long time... But would getting an Alien Head or two (somehow) make Robo more busted? (Even tho he's basically just a chest with legs, no actual power)

[fallow oxide]

Alien heads would make any survivor busted

[meager dirge]

Don't know if this is even a feature of the game... But is there any way to check items in a run? Descriptions are generally useful, but not specific. I know the Logbook and wiki exist. I'm just curious.

[fervent copper]

Like specifically looking at the log for an item?

[boreal ermine]

not a thing

[slate apex]

@forest timber could you accept my friend request

[uneven mantle]

I heard people here saying that returns can’t have new updates released. Can someone explain why exactly that is? (If that’s the case)

[boreal ermine]

gearbox publishing doesn't exist anymore after take 2 acquired gearbox

rorr's publisher gone

[uneven mantle]

Is take 2 not a publisher?

[zenith garden]

They’d have to organize a new publishing deal

[uneven mantle]

ah

[rotund grotto]

Does RoRR have controller support?

[tender gazelle]

yeah i play it on controller it plays well

[wild willow]

i was thinking to buy this game, do yall suggest it?

[tepid rapids]

does swarms work with sacrifice

[orchid vector]

yes

[charred sentinel]

yes

[charred sentinel]

pretty sure it decreases item drop rates

[winter tulip]

when i go for robomando on the medium difficulty, if i die before reaching him do i have to get the battery and place it in the box again?

[zenith garden]

if you got the battery out of the box then yes

[winter tulip]

okay, thanks

[dim kayak]

i have the battery and everything for robomando and i made it to stage four. I can see his body but it’s in an area that i can’t find out how to access. Does anyone know how to get into there? nvm

[grim stream]

What’s the best abilities to be using on chef?

[violet fjord]

Does getting gold in any/all the Providence Trials get you anything? Or is it just clout.

[zenith garden]

There’s two unlocks at 5/15 but other than that it’s all clout

[fallow oxide]

just the alt util

[neat summit]

anyone know how to escape from being clipped in a wall?

nvm figured it out

[grim stream]

Is arti any good?

[valid finch]

Hardest of the cast to use

So not bad but shell probably seem like useless dogshit for your first handful of runs

Some things to note

Rapidly tapping primary sends them out significantly faster than holding
Uncharged nanobomb has the same stun as a fully charged one
Flamethrowers hitbox is comedically large, allowing you to jump and use it to be safe from multiple enemies while also melting them

[grim stream]

Which primary on acrid is best?

[proven star]

how do I get this log?

[wild willow]

Can i unlock characters on drizzle?

[proven star]

yes

*except for the secret character but that's the only exception

[wild willow]

Should i disable new stage variants if i want to get artificier

[proven star]

nah keep it on, just loop

[rotund grotto]

I just started playing the game, and I took a look through the wiki at the survivors

What are these enhanced specials I'm seeing listed on each character?

[zenith garden]

theres an item called ancient scepter that upgrades the characters ultimates

[rotund grotto]

Oh that's very cool

[river hornet]

how do i wipe my save

[viscid finch]

amongus balls

[sacred crow]

is the defeat 3 unique event bosses acheevo bugged for huntress?

clapped acrid, the boar and providence and got nothing

[boreal ermine]

boar?

what boar

[sacred crow]

boar beach

[boreal ermine]

thats not a unique event boss

[sacred crow]

bruh

never read yt comments again i guess

[boreal ermine]

ah yes, yt commenters making shit up

[fervent copper]

there are only 4 special bosses. Acrid, Direseeker, Prov, and the Artifact Golem

[sacred crow]

maaan that dude ruined me

[sacred crow]

am so pissed now, the run was so long and i thought im done with that

[boreal ermine]

imp vanguard is origin artifact only

[boreal ermine]

turn off new stage variants if you haven't already

makes acrid and direseeker guaranteed on their stages

[sacred crow]

i did but i was so unlucky had the same stages all the time

[boreal ermine]

death

[sacred crow]

like no magma barracks for example

[grim stream]

Which acrid primary is best?

[river hornet]

ghelp

[rotund grotto]

Should I pick up the printer and recycler mods?

[boreal ermine]

no

[rotund grotto]

Why?

[boreal ermine]

from what i've heard they really dont change the game much

item stacking in this game is generally not as impactful as ror2

[fervent copper]

If you want printers and scrappers go back to ror2

[woeful aurora]

they exist just so u can get rid of voltaic mitt

[winter tulip]

Any tips on getting the artifact of sacrifice?

[inland ether]

You will be needing characters who has splash damage type skills

[winter tulip]

Would the primary attack for the engineer work?

Or is that not big enough?

[inland ether]

Well here's a hint
Seen any buttons behind walls?
And you probably would be needing a bigger splash attack

[winter tulip]

Yeah i’ve seen some buttons behind walls. What would you recommend?

[inland ether]

Huntress' Special skill

But
You can also use other sorts of damage

It doesn't always have to be your own

[winter tulip]

Haven’t played enough to figure those items or equipment yet

Off the top of my head, would the drill item work? The one that does pen damage every 4th attack?

[fervent copper]

I believe that gets blocked by solid blocks

I know bandit's Dynamite works

[winter tulip]

Cool, i’ll try it

[grim stream]

Which acrid secondary is best?

[livid garden]

it's just personal preference, bubble has higher potential but is a bit harder to use

[bronze night]

Does anyone know when the servers will be running again? Friends can’t connect to a game, been trying all day

[tender gazelle]

servers are running afaik it's just not many are hosting

[primal valve]

Late reply, but Loader can easily grab them

[tender gazelle]

electric pylon is goated like that

[boreal ermine]

glass, kin, and command artifacts honestly

[inland ether]

Hi

[boreal ermine]

🐱

[plucky magnet]

hey I’m having an issue where my friend can’t join my lobby, is yours anything similar?

[bronze night]

Currently, me and my friend tried and are playing, maybe we must of gotten lucky

[plucky magnet]

what happens when it is unsuccessful?

[bronze night]

Each time we tried the previous few days, he kept getting a “connection timed out” error message

[plucky magnet]

But it’s fine now?

Because that happened the past few days for me and my friend too

[bronze night]

Seems to be, at least when we started playing an hour ago

[plucky magnet]

Does it work consistently?

[plucky magnet]

My friend and I were able to play online but not make a private lobby

[bronze night]

Not sure if consistently, we just made this one private lobby and have been playing since, planning on maybe playing with two other friends again tonight, so I can only hope it works then ^^;;

[plucky magnet]

Okay, if you don’t mind, please update me on that

[bronze night]

Not at all! ^^

[naive epoch]

How the fuck do you beat judgement as miner???

[livid garden]

use your backblast well, keep in mind you can always stagger stunned foes

push those volatile crabs off the edge in stage 2 if you don't wanna deal with them

[next mist]

is there a way i can entirely reset my save

[bronze night]

It does not seem to be working anymore.

[runic fox]

Is there a mod manager for ror1 btw? Interested in modding it but tbh the state of it confuses me a tad.

Asking here because this is the closest the server has to a ror1 questions channel btw.

[orchid vector]

https://rainfusion.net/

you can download both modloader and mods from there, plus theres a rorml documentation

[runic fox]

Thank you, will do.

[wet relic]

Are there any mods for rorr?

[tender gazelle]

yeah

check the pins of #risk-of-rain-returns for a tutorial on how to install them

[neon shell]

risk of rain returns or storm seekers DLC?

[nocturne tartan]

does bleed stack the same as ror2?

[jade ferry]

No, it just refreshes and does not stack

Wait, I mean it can stack but the stacks still decay normally

They don't refresh one another

[nocturne tartan]

Oh ok

Darn

[young arrow]

I believe risk of rain returns is the better product

[next mist]

is there a way i can reset my save since i've tried a lot of different things and it doesnt work

[tender gazelle]

bleed is very different from ror2 anyways

it's total damage

pretty much just another proc item

[nocturne tartan]

Oh neat

So it’s basically double damage?

[nocturne tartan]

how many times does lazer cyclone hit per second?

does demolished a magma worm in one second with three lazer cyclones

[fallow oxide]

Each cyclone hits every 0.266 seconds

[nocturne tartan]

are they affected by attack speed?

[nocturne tartan]

can AtG's proc themselves?

I swear they must be, since I'm not attacking in any way and there's still a massive stream of AtGs going, but also I feel like the devs would know not to add that

[naive epoch]

No, they just come out one at a time, you must have a large list of procs of atg from hitting multiple enemies at once

[nocturne tartan]

Ok cool

[alpine kindle]

hellooo

i have a question about my account in game

anyone around?

[nocturne tartan]

just ask the question, buddy

[nocturne tartan]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[alpine kindle]

sorry i got help from a friend thank you for responding and letting me know

[nocturne tartan]

cool :]

[haughty mica]

how ?

Still new that's my second game

[fervent copper]

What are you trying to do in the first picture? The second picture is easy, see that blue vine in the room with it? It’s a rope down. Get above it and climb down

It’s either that or there is a hidden hole in the left wall

[haughty mica]

k ty

[haughty mica]

how to reach this

[valid finch]

Lotsa mobility

[haughty mica]

k

[valid finch]

Easiest way is to use pilot or huntress warp dart

[haughty mica]

warp dart ?

must be the second dash ability

like in ror2 but it wasn't called warp dart

[valid finch]

Yeah its alt utility

You shoot a weighted dart that teleports you to where it lands and explodes

[haughty mica]

I'm kinda new to rorr

so questiosn maybe kinda stupid

what's techincally the first survivor I'll unlock

other than huntress and commando

[fervent copper]

It could be almost any character

For instance, the first one I unlocked was Bandit, but in ror1 the first one I unlocked was Enforcer

[haughty mica]

I unlocked enforcer

just now

lol

but died

from 2 magma worms

[fervent copper]

lol

[haughty mica]

mountain shrine , you know

[valid finch]

bandit or enforcer are usually the first two people unlock

[haughty mica]

yeah that's logical

also unlocked providence trials

used to unlock alt skills as I understand

[valid finch]

Yes

You can also unlock alts by doing boring requirement things

Like in 2

But doing trials is easier and more fun imo

[haughty mica]

yeah yeah

kill 3000 enemy

[haughty mica]

sure

[meager dirge]

I'm gonna be that guy. Alternate requirements like that don't exist in 2. Which make some challenges in that game actually infuriating...

[twin inlet]

is anyone else having issues connecting multiplayer?

we've done all the basic stuff, adding all rules, disabling all rules, restarting steam, restarting PC, and we still can't connect despite having full 1GB connection... is there something I haven't tried?

nvm have to use lobby id for it to work consistently it seems

[haughty mica]

I'm having difficulties with scavenger hunt trials

[naive epoch]

That one is just Garbo
I have no advice
Just keep trying and trying

[lone niche]

What’s the easiest way to get monster logs?

[fervent copper]

Looping

Nothing increase their chances of spawning

[naive epoch]

Just be lucky

[primal valve]

Awnsers differ if it is specific ones or in general

For specific logs, Using Artifact of Kin (if it isn't a boss log), Cognation and Dissonance and looping until you get Kin roll on monster log you need and farm for it.

For boss logs, Artifact of Dissonance (Expect if going for Cremator Log) Artifact of Prestige and Artifact of Cognation to increase bosses spawned to increase bosses you can kill for logs.

Dissonance is for the stage locked monsters to get more spawn chances, like Ifrit can only spawn on Ancient Valley normally and Whorls are only in sunken tomb IIRC

[languid girder]

does anyone have an idea how to make custom color palletes btw?

[dreamy forge]

why the area where i can get loader's prism is not there?

[orchid vector]

wrong variant

[dreamy forge]

i see...

[river hornet]

whats with the huge portals randomly put on stages

[fervent copper]

It’s where artifacts appear

[jade anvil]

i just bought the game, do you need to reduce graphics settings initially on a low end pc or does it run fine

[jagged basin]

Do the artifacts affect Providence in any way?

[boreal ermine]

not really

[proud peak]

A little I guess

Glass is glass, spite may be a bit silly in phase 3 with the minions, origin can be a little funny if the timing is right etc.

[naive epoch]

Wait
Would prestige affect prov??

[tender gazelle]

unfortunately no

[naive epoch]

Damn
No 15 providences

[valid finch]

Go my providencelings

The false son(s)

[hot dawn]

What are good healing items in this game

For white items

[zenith garden]

Only meh one is medkit otherwise they are all pretty useful

[jagged basin]

Does artifact of spirit works?

[hot dawn]

Ah okis ty

What about for equipment?

[tender gazelle]

shield generator

[proud peak]

The one where you get faster the less hp you have?

[tender gazelle]

not healing but it's the best survivability (and top tier equipment in general)

foreign fruit is the only actual healing equipment i think, and it's pretty good

unstable watch also helps you recover

[jagged basin]

Yes, does it affect Providence?

[proud peak]

I never used it myself but id imagine it does

[naive epoch]

Oh God
Faster providence scares me

[hot dawn]

Alright thank you friend

[river hornet]

ah yes, providence, brovidence and 13 other proviednces who didnt stand out enough to get unique names

[inland ether]

providence
brovidence
qrovidence
drovidence

[runic fox]

There's the leech too, which is technically just healing with an extra step of needing to deal damage, though with how easy that is to do in general, it's not exactly a high barrier to clear.

[knotty saddle]

trying to do challenges to unlock more items
stage 2, 11 minutes in

Five hundred cigarettes Volatile Lemurians

i really want answers but i also really hope this isnt removed because that was hilarious

[valid finch]

not really any way for them to be removed

nor do i think they should so

[spare thorn]

anyone knows when modding support will be officially added?

[humble lichen]

Probably never

[runic fox]

Never, hopoo's in a sort of hiatus atm as its members are working at valve.

[sturdy widget]

What happens if you somehow beat robomando

[primal valve]

Nothing

[fallow oxide]

A different ending song plays

[lone niche]

Are the Miner & Acrid unlock stages both stage 5

[boreal ermine]

miner is a stage 4

acrid is a stage 3

[lone niche]

Ohhh

[ripe dew]

how do i get to this area

[boreal ermine]

i dont think that one is reachable

[ripe dew]

bruh.....

[fervent copper]

there isnt anything there if it isnt reachable

[lone niche]

How do you get to the areas that are sectioned off that have monster logs in em

[knotty saddle]

usually there are hidden vines or passages you can phase through

[proud peak]

You can often spot hidden ropes, vines, etc. by a small ever so slightly unique visual on the map

Like a sapling sticking out of the ground in a far off area

[rich wasp]

I didn’t see a chat for original ror questions so I’m asking it here if I loop are the maps the same as the ones that I had before or are they randomized

[fervent copper]

they are randomized, but not out of order. For example, you could get either of the 2 different stage 1's, then the 2 stage 2's, then the 2 stage 3's, and so on and so on

[rich wasp]

Ok I was just wondering because I got the same first stage thanks

[atomic field]

Shield slam or tackle?

[fervent copper]

Tackle

[fallow oxide]

Tackle

[jagged basin]

They have added ror returns in r2modman?

[boreal ermine]

correct

[jaunty quail]

any replacement for better ui?

[fervent copper]

wrong game

[dim kernel]

I've got a question, anyone know where I can find a solid tier list for rorr?

I'm just curious about consistency of runs etc

only thing I've heard is Artificer isnt very fun

[naive ocean]

i dont know if theres a solid tier list out there, but i think its generally agreeable that drifter is the most consistent character in the game

[tender gazelle]

yeah

[naive ocean]

overall i think the games more balanced than ror2, i think artificer receives a lot of negative attention because they have the weirdest primary and their alts are highly demanding to use (theyre really not bad though, just difficult alts to use)

[tender gazelle]

aside from drifter most of the character tiers would be fairly subjective, yes including artificer

[naive ocean]

i think a tier list would basically range from S (only drifter in here) to A+, A and A-. i dont think the range is significant aside from drifter

if you understand how to use drifter and use their base ult every time its off cooldown (or the alternate ult to reroll for better items) you are practically guaranteed a god run eventually regardless of the circumstances. like with base ult you dont even need good items from chests, you could randomly drop yourself a temporary substandard duplicator and then suddenly your ult gives you 8 items instead of 4. if you happen to get a permanent one the run is basically over at that point

[fallow oxide]

not much of a tier list, but if I had to choose the 5 best survivors, I'd choose Huntress, Pilot, Mercenary, Drifter, and Loader

in no particular order

[valid finch]

Where robomando

[primal valve]

This is much more player skill dependant, in general as long as you can avoid damage reasonably well every survivor can clear most monsoon runs, even with some self imposed challenges proving people wrong like using Artificer Sun only or engineer Laser turret only

[dim kernel]

Understood ok

I was genuinely just curious

Drifter makes sense, she feels very like

i dont wanna say easy to use, but she just feels like she has everything

[tender gazelle]

she doesn't really have everything, notably she lacks mobility and range

but she makes up for it by either having 1 million items, or having consistently good items

depending on your special of choice

[meager dirge]

Question about Recycle. I know the equipment that does it in 2 is limited by the item's position.

Can Drifter just recycle until you get the exact item you want, or is it limited?

[tender gazelle]

there's no limit

but you should try to take care of the time lol

[violet fjord]

Any tips for Miner?

[primal valve]

Jump to keep momentum while attacking, your primary has bigger range than it seems and use your invulnerability frames well

[violet fjord]

Crush vs. Pickaxe throw?

[tender gazelle]

pickaxe throw is a lot more dependent on heat to deal damagethan crush, although both are equally viable id say

[primal valve]

Mentally blocked pickaxe throws exisistance so range refers to crush

[primal valve]

Above being said, pretty much every loadout is viable so personal preference reings supreme

[livid garden]

LOL i love pickaxe throw but it can be janky to line up

it's great for picking off earlygame jellyfish and the like and is pretty strong when scorched

[north magnet]

does the game not support play station controllers?

[dim kernel]

Would this be the same for the utility skills?

Is that what they’re called in this game lmao ror2 brain takes over

The explosion vs backdash

I find backdash to be pretty situational tbh but I fear if I get rid of it I’ll miss it, so I haven’t yet

[primal valve]

Yeah, tho some alt skills are for different situations, Explosion vs Backdash is one of more heat and some AoE (Explosion) and Mobility and limited invulnerability frames (Backdash) tradeoff which can also alter which other skills you find more appealing, but for most part it is personal preference.

[primal valve]

My PS5 controller works fine

Even shows correct icons

[primal valve]

Signifigant amount of my playtime is inside Judgement where it isn't an option, more of "I never see it so I forgot" rather than "it is so bad I forgot"

[lone niche]

Are the magma caverns a rare stage

[tender gazelle]

no

[primal valve]

50% chance on stage 4 each loop

[frosty flume]

do i have to be currently holding foreign fruit for the chef unlock or do i just have to had picked it up at one point

[boreal ermine]

holding it

[frosty flume]

noted

[crystal lynx]

does bleed work the same as in 2?

[boreal ermine]

nah

[crystal lynx]

where is ||robomando|| ive been looking for like 20 minutes 😭 ||i have the battery and entered left stage 3 at 22:10||

I FOUND IT

wohoo 😁

[slate tide]

how was i still taking dmg with these?

[valid finch]

Diminishing effects the more you stack

So you cant just grab 10 and win the game forever

[lone niche]

How rare is the drone scrapper?

[valid finch]

Guaranteed every stage 4 can rarely spawn on stage 3 and 5

Doesnt spawn stage 1 and 2 though

[twin inlet]

does the ancient wisp even spawn on drizzle? I've been trying to unlock predatory instincts for like 3 days now and haven't gotten it to spawn ONCE while playing huntress

or am I just the unluckiest chap in existence yet again

[primal valve]

IIRC Ancient Wisp is naturally spawning only in stage 2 of loops, Drizzle should not block their spawn

[twin inlet]

tyty

I guess I'm just unlucky

I've literally done like 40 runs and haven't gott him to spawn once

with multiple loops as well

[primal valve]

Yeah had also a ~week of not seeing Magma Barracks while hunting for Cremator Log on/off

[twin inlet]

it's only on huntress tho

it's like the game knows

also for actually getting the predatory instincts, do I have to not take damage up to fighting him as well? or just no damage while fighting him

[twin inlet]

A WEEK

bruh

[primal valve]

RNG is a cruel mistress

[twin inlet]

fr

I just want it

to make commando laser

I'm going to scream

does anyone know how to hard cap at 60fps? it seems to bump up to 70 despite it being capped and it causes a tearing effect

@primal valve I finally got him! it was a random spawn at stage 32 for some reason but I got it finally

[fervent copper]

Is that a mod to make the stage count and variant appear?

[lament locust]

what makes RORR differ from ROR1?

[river hornet]

extra survivors, alt abilities, providence trials, a lot of qol stuff, 3 new survivors, i coudl go on

[primal valve]

Essentially "remaster" with more content (Exluding mods for now).
Somewhat more Fluid controls, mainly you have more potential mobility.
Toggleable new Map variants, enemies and interactables

[river hornet]

bassicly rorr is what the binding of isaac rebirth is to the flash version

[primal valve]

Providence Trials are essentially "Minigame Challenges" which for me personally were amazing addition.

[topaz forge]

grah, is any of commandos alt skills better than the default ones?

[boreal ermine]

alt special is pretty good

combine it with the alt secondary for high risk high reward burst damage

[topaz forge]

ah alr

[tender gazelle]

commando has good alts

slide is weird and a little bugged rn unfortunately

it's jank to use

[boreal ermine]

i'd say the util is preference but given the slide has a bug where- yeah

you have to let go of your primary fire before using it or else it just wont go through

[tender gazelle]

i hope it's possible to make a mod that fixes it

doesn't it still have a bug where you can change direction as well?

[boreal ermine]

no idea

if sarn ever shares the fix they did internally and never got to push out, one of us modders will defo try and implement it

[twin inlet]

yessir

[twin inlet]

oh I thought I was going insane

[fervent copper]

dang I want it, but

[twin inlet]

oooof

whered you get that pfp

I want a commando one for my banner

[tender gazelle]

logbook image

[livid garden]

i-frames too good i wouldn't use slide anyway smh smh

[twin inlet]

oh thanks, jus checked the logs and bandit is a stowaway lmao

[twin inlet]

my mod set also has full item descriptions

speaking of which, can anyone explain the golden gun to me, the description makes no sense

[fervent copper]

Its the merc logbook

[twin inlet]

ah tyty

[fervent copper]

more money = more damage

[twin inlet]

yeah but the description

this makes sno sense

[fervent copper]

what doesn't make sense

[twin inlet]

caps at 700 - 50%

[tender gazelle]

cut 700 by half

[fervent copper]

the cap is reduced the more stacks you have so you reach the max damage quicker

[tender gazelle]

then 350 by half

and so on and so forth

[twin inlet]

yeah but how does teh cap work then, if it goes down per stack

[tender gazelle]

less money needed to reach max

[twin inlet]

ohhhhh

thanks

ima pair this with lense and razer penny

[boreal ermine]

throw in toxin

[twin inlet]

not a bad idea

trying to do a run with commando where it's just insane atk spd and all procc'd items just need 1

jus for kick n giggls

how many laser scopes would I need to consistently instant kill

[boreal ermine]

a hundred of them would give you a 49% chance i believe

[river hornet]

bassicly each stack means you need to haev less gold to hit the +40% dmg

[twin inlet]

thanks brother

clears it up nicely

[river hornet]

oh btw the gold scales with time, i think you can calculate how much it is by just taking the current small chest price and multiplying it by 28

[runic fox]

So that means every golden gun cuts the 'chest amount' by half then?

So 14, 7, 3.5, 1.25 and so-on.

[river hornet]

im not 100% sure on stacking past the 2nd but, for now id assume so yeah

[zenith garden]

The golden gun also lies because its damage goes up to 100% bonus damage. The bar isn’t the cap

[river hornet]

huh

does that mean you need 54 small chests worth of gold to max out the gun?

[zenith garden]

I didn’t do the testing so not 100% sure on the specifics but I’d guess so

[nova hedge]

Am i using it wrong or is burnout bad

I feel like it's the former

[valid finch]

its pretty good

Just a nice quick solid burst of damage that also activates stuff like fire shield

I prefer backblast but burnout is also good

especially given how many iframes miner has

Losing that hp is so minor (ha ha) when youre always spamming iframes

[frosty flume]

am i doing something wrong or is sniper's damage completely awful doodoo garbage outside of nearly impossible ideal scenarios

im getting consistent perfect reloads and i still can't kill simple lemurians unless i stand still and charge a shot for 17 years

[livid garden]

sniper's damage scaling is the highest of any survivor at 15+3, base snipe should 2-3 shot lemurians which is pretty solid but you want to be using your secondary properly

sniper's whole thing is being a bit awkward to use but having very high potential, with their utility going backwards and the reload mechanic

[boreal ermine]

yeah no sniper does massive damage

[frosty flume]

ohh theyre just weird to use gotcha
they felt weird but i thought it was my fault or smth

[tender gazelle]

maybe weird but definitely not doodoo

[boreal ermine]

one thing to be aware of is that their secondary shot DOES degrade upon piercing

gets halved every time it pierces i believe

[livid garden]

this can be countered somewhat using things like gasoline and other kill effects

[boreal ermine]

sometimes you can target a boss by jumping right before firing such that it goes over all the fodder

[livid garden]

sniper doesn't need attack speed at all, but loves crowbars

[valid finch]

All sniper alts trade in a bit of single target damage for aoe

While still being sniper and dealing with strong targets just fine

[livid garden]

id advise getting into a rhythm with sniping and reloading, your dps can be pretty good when you get the hang of it

and steady aim of course does extremely high damage

[fallow oxide]

Sniper’s damage scaling is 15 + 4/lvl

And doesn’t steady aim charge faster with more attack speed?

[boreal ermine]

it does

[frosty flume]

how much time should i generally be spending on each stage on monsoon? is it around the same as ror2 (5 minutes ideal time per stage) or should i be staying longer/shorter than 5 minutes

[fervent copper]

1. The rule in ror2 is not 5 minutes per stage, break that habit.
2. The rule here is to activate the tele as soon as you find it and loot during the charge up

[warm hemlock]

A bit more complicated
activating the tele and then looting is a good practice but on some maps it could be better to scout for things first

[valid finch]

The ror2 rule is 5 minutes per stage if youre watching videos from 3 years ago by woolie

Always full loot in 2 the 5 minutes rule is so dogshit

Personally i scout the entire map then hit the tp in returns

More time to get money since just the teleporter money isnt enough to loot the entire stage

And so i dont miss mountain shrines

[warm hemlock]

Namely: On the first 2 stages if the map is small I'd try and find a mountain shrine (Honestly stage 2 is the best one to activate a mountain shrine so even if you get damp caverns it could be worth).
And if you're on a map with health shrines (damp caverns, hive cluster, and especially Temple) if you're well equipped (have a lot of healing or just... play merc) it can definitely be an immense help to get them.

Honestly even if your healing isn't amazing I'd still recommend scouting for blood shrine on temple

[valid finch]

Bungus my goat

[river hornet]

damp caverns is so ass ngl

[valid finch]

Saving me when i want to use temple health shrines

Navigation in damp caverns isnt very fun but they have health shrines

🤤

[river hornet]

average trying to find anything in damp caverns expirience

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill-2-walk-fog-silenthill2-gif-6214350571738915379

[runic fox]

Late, but yeah you're kinda doing things wrong, a vital thing to know for Sniper is that you can keep holding their charged shot even through a backflip, the knowledge of which will make your damage absolutely skyrocket since you can get a good bit of extra charge, if not a full bar, from that extra distance.

[frosty flume]

ohhhh i was not aware of this ty

[runic fox]

Yeah that tidbit of information makes a huge difference imo, from there you just have to make sure to position yourself so there's space for the backflip and you're good to go.

Their snipe does bonkers damage, and pierces through enemies too, albeit not infinitely.

Also you can jump during the charging to do stuff like hitting a boss without having the damage reduced by needing to pierce normal enemies, if not them soaking up the shot outright.

[frosty flume]

are there any specific tips n tricks for mercenary? im trying to unlock the mastery achievement but i cant get past stage 3 without getting 1 shot in places that seemed unavoidable

im using my dashes, eviscerate, and i still get overwhelmed and can't escape because my dash is on cooldown

and even when i do escape i get sniped by the green wisps 💔

[tender gazelle]

maybe try to unlock the alt skills through providence trials

you might enjoy them more

[primal valve]

Biggest tip is spam jumping to preserve momentum while eviscreating, starting eviscreate in air to preserve more

Auto jump accessibility option help a lot with above

[frosty flume]

what would preserving momentum do for me /genq

[valid finch]

Better movement while attacking

https://medal.tv/games/risk-of-rain-returns/clips/iJG90FY5NyVW0gM4P/d1337nWdVh7o?invite=cr-MSxqeHcsNDQ2NzgwNTAs

Also autojump is like a necessity for damn near every movement tech in game

https://medal.tv/games/risk-of-rain-returns/clips/iJELvrqQsiI2HpDdM/d1337ezZ4BoQ?invite=cr-MSxNTGksNDQ2NzgwNTAs

[primal valve]

Not leave you in middle of enemies when eviscreate ends

[frosty flume]

ohh

noted

[primal valve]

As majority of time, moving is better than staying still, and jumping allows you do more of it.

Also vast majority of enemy attacks only hit near ground so jumping avoids most attacks as well

[river hornet]

Have you ever heard of a wavedash?

[frosty flume]

im aware of the concept yes

[river hornet]

Pilot with alt ability can do it
Allowing him to cross entire (smaller) stages in seconds

The easiest way to do it for me is

1. Stand still
2. Jump abd KEEP holding jump
3. Midair, hold down and use the dash , angling it downwards
   IMPORTANT: during a wavedash, do not use directional movement keys , they bassicly kill ur momentum due to how movement works

If done properly, after the dash into the ground while holding jump, pilot should move at AMAZING speed as you keep holding jump

[frosty flume]

omg this is hilarious

thank you for making me aware of this

[river hornet]

Also the closer you are tp the ground when you dash the faster you go

[frosty flume]

what does one do when enemies have outscaled you and are swarming you
i cant loot anything because everything is too strong to reasonably be killed without immediately getting obliterated by the 17,683 evolved lemurians

im looting early stages in reasonable amounts of time, like 5-ish minutes each stage to get everything i can without wasting time, and i still get completely outscaled unless i get obscenely lucky with my items

[boreal ermine]

in my experience 5 minutes per stage is usually too long on monsoon

i try to take around 3-4 mins per stage

[river hornet]

You can pop tele and still loot while it charges

[frosty flume]

noted

[proud peak]

Wrong channel

[river hornet]

is there a way to leave usng artifact of enigma

[livid garden]

camp ropes and just camp in general

during the teleporter event keep running until the 90 seconds have passed, once they have no more enemies will spawn so you can take initiative and fight back

and there'll be so many enemies that you'll probably get enough gold to at least close to full loot

[naive ocean]

what character are you playing as?

generally speaking you could just slowly kite the evolved lemurians and leave the grounded enemies for later

then you just run past chests and open them. dont stand there and wait for the item to drop, just sweep back through after it drops and focus on dodging

also activating teleporter asap really helps here. it means once the 90 seconds are up you no longer have to worry about enemy spawns

the slow kite method would eventually open up the map for you and give you breathing room at that point

if youre playing artifact of command, genuinely just dont even try to pick up items until youve wiped the map and completed the teleporter event. your character is OP (or will be OP soon) just because youre stacking all of the good items anyways lol. you dont want to subject yourself to panic picking the wrong item or dying while trying to pick one

also, pace really doesnt matter too much. ive won runs where i spent 15 mins on the first level in monsoon

a good amount of it really just comes down to luck. sometimes youre playing HAN-D and youre feeling lucky and pop 2 mountains and get 3 overloading magma worms

[crystal lynx]

if i get an achievement can i end my run or does it have to end naturally

[tender gazelle]

you can just quit

[crystal lynx]

epic

[tender gazelle]

not alt f4 though

that'll most likely not save it

[frosty flume]

what does backup magazine do for han-d

[valid finch]

pretty much nothing but increases your drone stock

[frosty flume]

ohh

[primal valve]

Increase max drone count up by 1 per, base is 10 IIRC

[river hornet]

which boss music plays on which stage?

[north magnet]

can 4 key cards challenge be done in providence trials?

[river hornet]

no unlocks can be done in provi besides thier specific unlocks

[north magnet]

thats what i thought, just wanted to make sure

whats the easiest way to do it that.

that doesnt rely on rng of 4 capsules spawning?

[river hornet]

enemies drop keycards on risk of rain

if you sit around there long enough youll get the cards

[crystal lynx]

could i get this unlock by just sitting idle and spamming m1 in shield mode?

[nocturne tartan]

Iirc in combat means actively attacking something in rorturns

Could be wrong though

[warm hemlock]

Nope

You can just have something like a wisp shoot at you for 5 minutes and you'll get the achievement

[nocturne tartan]

Oh neat

[warm hemlock]

I think(?) You have to not have the teleporter fully charged in order to get it but I could be wrong

[jade anvil]

i han-d useful in any way or is he just complete shit

[valid finch]

Hes incredible

Great at decimating hordes which is what 90% of this game is

[naive ocean]

theyre slow but then you realize you are constantly passively grouping all enemies together with your primary and you can choose between consistent self heals, an infinitely stacking attack speed buff that refreshes duration on every use, and a ranged 500% dmg aoe nuke that also extends your utility timer

[fervent copper]

Close! As long as your attacking you should be good
@crystal lynx You might want to hear this too

And yes the tele cannot be charged

[livid garden]

han-d can be hard to use but has pretty high potential. makes particularly good use of healing items like the desk plant, mu construct, etc

[fickle lintel]

does anyone know if it will end my run if I close them game without hitting return to title?

[primal valve]

There is no saving run past game closing

Some mods might be in works for that however

[fickle lintel]

oh. i was asking because disconnecting my headphones while a game is running mutes the game like permanently until i close and reopen it. and idk i am struggling without sound.

[jovial field]

if you grab r2modman you can install mods, and this mod exists: https://thunderstore.io/c/risk-of-rain-returns/p/Klehrik/SaveMod/

[primal valve]

Ah wasn't aware it was already made, don't follow modding scene as the one mod I'm interested in will be widespread news for me to find out when it gets released

[jovial field]

understandable

[fickle lintel]

i’m assuming i’d have to relaunch the game to use mods though

[tender gazelle]

yeah

[jovial field]

ah. yeah

[tender gazelle]

it's just a for thr future thing

[jovial field]

it won't save this run but it will save future runs

[primal valve]

Also sound cues are absolutely critical (atleast for me) to keep staying alive

[fickle lintel]

is there a pinned message somewhere for how to mod it?

or a video or something

[primal valve]

In #risk-of-rain-returns pins there should be

[tender gazelle]

just install r2modman (linked here

the guide there is outdated now actually

[primal valve]

Ah

[tender gazelle]

you can just install mods through r2modman now which is way easier

[fickle lintel]

yeah the low health sound is pretty helpful. also the sound when you open a container

[primal valve]

Seems like stuff got "fastfowarded" once confirmation of no official api happened

[nova hedge]

What trials would be the best to get a gold medal on

Need to get more four for the unlocl

Unlock*

[violet fjord]

Question: is there no monster log for Archaic wisps? I'm in the logbook and I can't seem to find it.

[tender gazelle]

yeah there's a few enemies that don't have logbooks for whatever reason

archaic wisps and young vagrants most notably

[violet fjord]

Did they in the original game?

[tender gazelle]

no

[violet fjord]

huh

[balmy geyser]

Weirdly enough for me the young vagrant dropped the wandering logbook

[jade sage]

Lighting strikes twice, Kited Blades, Bullseyes Only, Lone Wolf, Uncontrolled Experiment, A Colossal feet, Highway Robbery, Brave Heart Steady Hand, From all angles, Scorching Heart, Specimen Sampling, Colossal Lift, Inner Demons are the easiest to get gold in my opinion

[primal valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134461438325440564/1230061536144527411/Gold_Trials_Dificulty_ranking.png?ex=666fe993&is=666e9813&hm=596e0160340190b5ed76022aa488f913b69a01ebe94ee45d921758dc41ff7d05&

[river hornet]

arti parkou rnot being full red is crazy imo

[primal valve]

It was full red as were few others but feedback lowered it

[river hornet]

i feel like if any trial deserves a full red its arti parkour because you have to do a VERY precise platforming section with an unintuitive to use skill

[primal valve]

Main reason it isn't full red is lack of RNG

[river hornet]

even without rng i feel like the fucky physics, 0 mistakes path and just how tectonic surge works earns it a red

[primal valve]

Yes the skill can feel very inconsistent but is learnable

[jade sage]

mercenary parry probably should be yellow\green

[primal valve]

You can make minor mistakes but need skill to recover from them

[primal valve]

the 1 hit you out keeps it full yellow

[river hornet]

also the pilot water one in not reccomended?

that one seems a little extreme

[primal valve]

that is engi

The pilot water one is yellow

[river hornet]

...yeah i can see it in orange red teritory

[primal valve]

Some patterns force you to take a hit and only having 3 hits and it taking long time to get to gold score had it in red for while until some blessed by RNG argued against it

(Also "hid" Assasination contract being Orange/Yellow due to personal bias)

Mainly due to having good route makes it really lax

[river hornet]

cant you use the thermal missiles as a pani cbutton?

[primal valve]

You need to be preemptive enough with them, extra ones are RNG (some are score based) and new spawns can soak the missiles

Spent approx 8 hours to get gold in that failing to RNG most of the time

So there is heavy personal resentment to it

As a note every platformer got bumped up by atleast half to what I personally felt like them being and turns out it was for most part correct call.

[jade sage]

I think that lone wolf is probably yellow\green or green. The items are consistently good, you dont have that much RNG

[river hornet]

lone wolf is very consistent to gold

[primal valve]

Which was lone wolf

[jade sage]

The one with sniper and the waves of enemies

[primal valve]

Oh sniper tower, mainly yellow due to needing being decent with sniper reloads (I think)

[river hornet]

its more about managing each 4 of the rows, the reloads dont even need to be perfect 2nd best ones work too

[warm hemlock]

Yo same
I remember trying to do the gold and just kinda realising it wasn't really fun

[jade sage]

I dont think that it It has a strong effect. Mainly gasoline destroys everyone

[warm hemlock]

It definitely feels like one of those trials that I only hated more the more I played it

[primal valve]

I usually tend to move up the challenges that require understanding the character, I had no strong feeling of the Lone wolf lets see if I can no perfect reload Lone wolf gold first try if so I'll lower it

it stays yellow

[river hornet]

...Lone Wolf kinda plays like a fnaf game

[primal valve]

Main Systems Offline prolly should get upped in ranking but there is slight personal bias

Prolly half rank up like Assasination contract due to routing making signifigant difference

[warm hemlock]

Ok I got gold

This still just feels so rng dependent though

Like, on one run I got 5 harpoon stocks back to back

[primal valve]

It is

the extra harppoon stock is major contributor to it

[warm hemlock]

And that isn't even accounting for the enemy placement screwing you over sometimes

[primal valve]

Getting opposite side spawns back to back for extended time guarantees failure

Had 7 runs fail ~130 to that

And on my gloding run got to 230 IIRC

217

[jade sage]

what tf hapens when you lose

[primal valve]

Minor bug to not stop spawning at times

[jade sage]

I don't remember this happening before

[primal valve]

It happened rarely

[lone niche]

Hey, so I remember hearing that on stage four there was guaranteed to be a scrapper

Is that true

[valid finch]

yes

[lone niche]

Does it not spawn on drizzle because me and my friend just did a drizzle run? And we made it to stage four and I could not find it.

Also, what is this thing?

[boreal ermine]

a waterfall?

[finite sluice]

Incredible

[lone niche]

No, the thing right above it

[river hornet]

i think thats "the pilot"

[urban hornet]

the door you kicked off the escape pod bounces and falls nearby

[obsidian sage]

in risk of rain 1 can the artifact spawn in stage 5 if theres alredy the golden chest?

[verbal cipher]

for sniper's no items challenge, do drones count? can i buy them

[boreal ermine]

you can buy them yes

[north magnet]

will turning off new stage variants make it easier to find glass?

[river hornet]

Statistically speaking yeah

It wont make locating it in the stage easier tho

[north magnet]

are all 3 variants with glass from the orignal game im assuming?

that wont be a problem, as i do not suck at the game, i just dont wana do a million runs to stage 3.

[river hornet]

New stage variants limits you to only seeing lqyouts present in ror 2013

[north magnet]

are variants 1-3 from the original is what im asking...

wiki fills like it could have so much more info put into it, but justdoesnt ngl, i cant find this info anywhere.

[river hornet]

Iirc it always gies ror2013 variants then rorr variants

[north magnet]

k

thanks

[boreal ermine]

1-2

[river hornet]

Doesnt glass also appear in 3?

[crude kayak]

for Arti's acheivement what exactly counts as a multi kill

does it have to be one attack or one hitbox

like would flamethrower work or does it have to be nano bomb

[naive ocean]

i got it by using nano bomb with artifact of kin + glass

you can get it on stage 1 pretty much instantly if you get lemurians and allow them to pile up

if you prefer to get it legit (without artifacts) then, like most other character achievements, the soft prerequisite is basically just to acquire a god run

but uh. to answer your question i dont think flamethrower will work

[crude kayak]

ok

gracias

[naive ocean]

de nada

[runic fox]

I thiiink it probably has to be with one instance of damage.

The gold bomb can trigger it, just as an example.

[crude kayak]

I actually got it with gold bomb 👍

thanks guys

[primal valve]

Same frame multi kill but seems like you got it already

[primal valve]

All old stage variants have the old artifacts on them so makes gathering them easier. I distinctly remember confirming each variant having them
#ror-wiki-discussion message

[noble karma]

how to play simularcrum

?

[river hornet]

Simulacrum is a mod for rorr iirc

[north magnet]

ty

[pure narwhal]

Simulacrum is a ROR2 gamemode
BUT, like Cuboid said, its also a mod for RORR

[static field]

what character is that 😭

Also, how do i get to the GUI

[boreal ermine]

thats pilot

[static field]

THATS PILOT????

WHY DOES HE HAVE DUAL SWORDS

[river hornet]

Huh

[static field]

the uh

picture

looks like pilot has two like

pike sword things

like the sword from hollow knight but its a double edge

oh wait

thats just background

😭

Anyways

how do i get to the GUI

[boreal ermine]

what gui

[static field]

thats what im t rying to figure

out

[boreal ermine]

??????

are you like modding the game or what

[north magnet]

theres a certain red item (its a usb stick) that summons a weapon on every stage including the one you got it on, that will deal damage equal to half a tp bosses hp, for each tp boss, but you have to find and use it

thats the thing

[north magnet]

its a intractable from a red item

[boreal ermine]

i think you should check your vision because that is definitely not the atlas cannon

[valid finch]

Yeah that is not the cannon

[nova hedge]

The atlas cannon is way wider

[fallow oxide]

<@&559786374228738069>

[wise dove]

jovial_parrot_49282 was banned.

[sturdy widget]

were there any items that didnt return from the original

[tender gazelle]

no

[crystal lynx]

whos the best to speedrun with? (i just need to get artifact of glass so i need to keep getting back to that stage)

[fallow oxide]

Pilot with alt utility

[crystal lynx]

oki doki artichoke

[fallow oxide]

You’ll have to learn how to wavedash tho

[primal valve]

I'd say Loader is best for Artifact hunting due to allowing triggering any needed buttons easily (videos for reference) and
using Command, Tempus, Cognation, Prestige and Kin can make any character zoom and loop

[crystal lynx]

holy guacamole

[worldly trail]

boisz, should I buy returns?

thinking abt doin it

[boreal ermine]

yes

[worldly trail]

and will the game someday have more updates too?

[fickle lintel]

genuinely is the duplicator providence trial even possible? i havent been able to get over even near 100. most of my runs end in the 30s and i got over 60 once.

[jovial field]

unfortunately no
they were planning to make more updates, but circumstances changed and now it's extremely unlikely to get anything else

[fervent copper]

You are just supposed to plan it out beforehand and always use your special when it’s off cooldown, preferably with a duplicater

[worldly trail]

aaw]

[fickle lintel]

i've been doing that. I will run around getting as many alien heads and duplicators from chests as i can and spamming r whenever I can use it and leaving the items on the ground so the dumb worms dont spawn. and then when there's like 20 seconds left i go back and pick everything up with a few duplicators and i only ever get like 30-50 points

[crystal lynx]

how exactly does the "siiick" challenge work? like what counts as killing provi while backlfipping

[boreal ermine]

killing any phase of him (except wurms) while you are in the back flipping state

this does mean you can't use your actual skills

[crystal lynx]

so something like an active missile or chargefield generator?

[boreal ermine]

it has to be anything else, equipment works best

yeah

[crystal lynx]

ty

[fervent copper]

You should pick them up immediately. Believe me, the enemies are nothing more than scrap for your gains

[native prawn]

why is the opening to miner always closed off by magma? how do i get through?

[valid finch]

Take a swim

[primal valve]

Only 2 of 6 possible (3 with New stages disabled) variants have route to miner

[primal valve]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzDV_phqMyQ video reference, you want enemies to spawn as you easily get very low cooldown special after picking up duplicator then 2-3 alien heads

[hardy glade]

how do you teleport with huntress pierce ability?

[tender gazelle]

i dont think that was ever really figured out

there were some people saying it has to do with jumping right before shooting it but there's videos of it happening while you're just walking on the ground

[river hornet]

how am i suppose to use loader deafult primary

[valid finch]

Hold lmb
Things die

[boreal ermine]

hold jump

[valid finch]

Turn on autojump as per usual

[river hornet]

i just get melted by the stage 1 goddamn lemurians on judgement

[valid finch]

Useful for his movement tech

[river hornet]

i keep forgetting rorr loader is a man rather than a woman bc i used to play ror2 a lot

[valid finch]

Grapple onto a tesla, enemy, or any terrain above you
Start autojumping dont hold any direction
Hold primary

https://medal.tv/games/risk-of-rain-returns/clips/iJELvrqQsiI2HpDdM/d1337ezZ4BoQ?invite=cr-MSxNTGksNDQ2NzgwNTAs
the zoomer

[river hornet]

you can grab teslas?

[valid finch]

Yes

[river hornet]

how does scepter upgrade loader

...lol

[boreal ermine]

i think it does literally nothing lol?
its supposed to stun but i dont think that actually works ??

[tender gazelle]

it stuns enemies when you initially place it

oh nvm

[nocturne tartan]

do your drones heal in the warbanner radius?

[river hornet]

Iirc drones have like, slight natural regen

[nocturne tartan]

ok

does the ||strange battery|| spawn with sacrifice/command on?

I've now looped five times and haven't gotten the urn

[tender gazelle]

think sacrifice is the one that removes it

[river hornet]

Sacrifice removes it, command doesnt

[nocturne tartan]

damn

unfortunate, but I'll live with it

140+ minutes wasted too

[river hornet]

If you need to keep drones alive i reccomend hunting fir the repair kit

Equip that boosts + full heals drones

[river hornet]

ALSO drones full heal between stages

[nocturne tartan]

Oh it full heals? Very good to know. Thank you!

I was trying to unlock drifter and ||robo|| at the same time and my drones kept dying lol

[river hornet]

...how? Robomando has sorta rigid conditions to unlock unless u mean the part 1 of the unlock

[nocturne tartan]

Yeah just part 1

[river hornet]

Also drifter's unlock doesnt really need a lot of "push" to it. Arms race spawns an extra respawning drone every stage u can scrap and repair kit makes an extra drone if u dont have any so that might help

Though you CANT scrap backup plan drones

[nocturne tartan]

You can scrap the colonel? how did I not think of that

[river hornet]

Arms race is unlocked by killing 15 enemies with 1 HAN-D hammer

[river hornet]

Yeah its a free white item

AND the repair kit drone is scrapable too

...though it doesnt give anything

[nocturne tartan]

OIC

Arms race is different from the equipment

[spiral saddle]

Hey y'all. I was told I may be able to get some advice on the first RoR in here. I have them all, but was told it's best to start w/ the original RoR and play in chronological order.

I can't even get past the first teleport. I get owned by the mobs after I survive the wait time. I'm trying to get an idea of what level I should be before I try to take on the teleport. Maybe I'm nowhere near powerful enough.

[jovial field]

Power in Risk of Rain is a lot less about level and more about the items you're carrying. If you're having trouble clearing the teleporter, my advice would be to explore the stage more, gather money from kills, and try to get ahold of as many items as possible before taking on the boss

[river hornet]

...honestly? If you dont mond rorr not having mods like starstorm? Play rorr

[runic fox]

RoRR's just more refined RoR tbh, when not counting in RoR's mods like starstorm and such, which are already in the works to be put in RoRR anyways.

[sterile horizon]

There is no reason for you to play the original ROR unless you want to for nostalgia, RORR is just ROR1 but better

Play that one and you will have an infinitely better experience

[river hornet]

Ror1 has mods

[sterile horizon]

Rorr also now has mods

Just not as many

If you want content mods tho then yeah play ror1

[river hornet]

Yeah but ror1 has starmstorm and others

[drifting crypt]

Any broad tips for Monsoon Artificer? After many many many embarrassing failures I finally got 1 Monsoon win with base kit skills 🥲

I want to like Arti but it was truly an excersice in self-punishment

[valid finch]

Shes a very technical survivor that wont click for awhile

Mashing chakrams sends them out in one big burst

nanobomb does the same stun regardless of how long you charge it for

Flamethrower hitbox is deceptively large

Abusing any terrain advantage you can get is important especially for arti

[drifting crypt]

True true true, I took advantage of all of the above fs

Flyers were really tough to deal with, Swifts especially. Nano-bomb doesn't stun them when their nose is dug into the floor

I feel like the thing that made the difference on this last run for me was actually getting a lot of reliable sustain early. You take A LOT of chip damage trying to zone flamethrower and chakrams correctly thru all the chaos

[valid finch]

yeah swifts specifically can be a little rough for arti i recommend trying to get as much value from ice wall as possible

[fallow oxide]

Will I get way more out of arti’s alt sec if I’m good at pulsing it?

[drifting crypt]

Even at it's worst it's a quick stun that flies in a straight line for a long time with no charging necessary

[worldly grotto]

Will Returns ever be put onto consoles?

[boreal ermine]

no

[primal valve]

Jump more and abuse fact that flamethrower hits for ~1.5 tiles below you making it safer to use more often

[boreal ermine]

just refer to this image

[jolly totem]

I dont know if this is a bug but it seems once you have a lot of attack speed on artificer(around 30 syringes?), her flamethrower doesn’t work anymore. It will just cancel itself automatically.

[boreal ermine]

yeah a few abilities do just choke on super high attack speed

[river hornet]

Average rorr hitbox

[distant gyro]

Chat, i know we have mods for returns, where do i get them then, are they on R2Modman?

[tender gazelle]

yes

[distant gyro]

Perfect, i must’ve just overlooked it then, thank you :)

[tender gazelle]

if your r2modman isn't v3.1.50 (top left) then it won't show up

[distant gyro]

Might have to update it then, ill take a peek, thanks :)

[pastel grail]

Does anyone ever use sun alt for artificier

[tender gazelle]

yea

[pastel grail]

How

[runic fox]

Insanity, probs.

[primal valve]

Jumping and getting good items run as example
https://youtu.be/HDeNZPBpr94?si=hI8R7iUYqK1xJfwo

[maiden kraken]

Imagine playing an entirely separate survivor on a completely different plane than you are while simultaneously playing RoRR

[pastel grail]

Imagine

[warm hemlock]

I can just do that right now

no need for imagining

[void spade]

Just wondering does this scale with attack speed?

[river hornet]

attack speed works on the general rule of faster animations iirc, meaning it would prob charge faster

[tender gazelle]

it would not charge faster

[river hornet]

oh?

[tender gazelle]

the beam would tick faster, meaning it deals more damage

[valid finch]

Deals more damage but also kills itself faster iirc

[void spade]

wat dis

[river hornet]

i believe its a tree

[void spade]

: O

i just wanna find the artifact of cognation man

[mortal kelp]

Hello, is there a loop limit in ror returns, like in ror 2 ? I mean there is no REAL limit but you know, after something like 5 hour, the game go really weird, and almost nothing work correctly anymore, that's why i ask. Thanks you :)

[boreal ermine]

i believe rorr works fine, yes

with the only limit being how much your computer can handle

[mortal kelp]

Ho allright, thanks for the cool answer, that's hype me then :D

[river hornet]

....technically no but at some point you might get so many enemies the game shits itself and freezes (happened tp me when playing w/ prestige and got a blighted swarm)

[mortal kelp]

Okay, thanks you for the report :)

[river hornet]

Btw prestige is: guaranteed 1 mountain shrine every stage + mountain shrine triggers carry over between stages
So i had about ~20-30 mountain shrines 2.5 hours in a run, so that shouldnt be a real concern without prestige

[mortal kelp]

XD that's rly fun tho, i would have lopped seen that

[river hornet]

I think i have a recording of it

[river hornet]

Loud sound warning (its a constant buzzing)

[mortal kelp]

ahah, the game crashed after that ?

[river hornet]

....no actually i waited 20 minutes before just task manager ending it. One thing you'll learn that regarding crashes. Rorr is built like a steel-reinforced brick shithouse

Doesnt stop it from freezing sometimes

[obsidian fractal]

ok so now what u do is win. ez.

[river hornet]

The game is litteraly frozen solid

[obsidian fractal]

my comment is ironic, ya, thats a fail i know. but it is aamazing

[sweet bloom]

I once spent the entire night loading the game

It took 10 min 28 min to render 45 sec of gameplay

[dull stag]

What are some good items to grab as chef? With artifact of command on

[elfin sundial]

is there literally any chance at all that we still get an update for modding support now that hopoo is completely gone?

[boreal ermine]

no

likely not

[tender gazelle]

modding is still going strong regardless though

[boreal ermine]

yeah

[river hornet]

modding is going real storng and growing but rorr updates are sort of a pipe dream afaik

[elfin sundial]

Hmm, alright, well I hope the modding scene goes as strong as it did for 1, because seeing something like starstorm for returns would be amazing

[tender gazelle]

starstorm returns is supposedly under development

[river hornet]

it wont come out for years afaik

a full 1.0 version at least

[boreal ermine]

this is not by anyone from the actual starstorm returns team though lol

i asked the guy and he said he was just doing it for fun

[tender gazelle]

he did say that here but also in the starstorm server winslow said he's working on ssr lol

[jovial field]

honestly given how the barrier for entry to RoRR modding is much lower, it would be cool if SSR was made as something of a community effort

[wanton marsh]

Bro WHERE is the teleporter on this temple-looking map

I’ve looked everywhere and even searched under and that big one below doesn’t work

[proud peak]

The teleporter on this map (and every future map if you loop) looks different and overall a bit bigger

Be sure to check the top of all the big hollow blocks that have an opening to the top

[wanton marsh]

Why is there a whole hidden area at the temple

[proud peak]

Its just the layout

[placid talon]

why does everybody hate artificer so much?

literally every tierlist I saw had her in the lowest rank

yet when I tried artificer for the first time she literally destroyed any enemy (monsoon)

[valid finch]

Because most tier lists were made when the game was fresh

And people didnt understand her

And she got a buff post launch

[placid talon]

yeah that makes sense but the same thing about tierlist that was made recently, like in august

[valid finch]

people just dont get arti lol

shes not as cut and dry as the rest of the cast

[placid talon]

that lame

[livid garden]

arti has some unique issues that most of the cast doesn't. she's powerful when used right but she has a very unique learning curve compared to most of the cast

you could argue being the most difficult to learn does make her the worst but it's very subjective and weird

it's "high risk high reward" that you can turn into "medium risk high reward" with proper knowledge (jump when using flamethrower, proper spacing for primary, understanding enemy attack patterns, being wary around flying foes)

but at the end of the day she's still a midrange fighter with next to no i-frames so there's always gonna be quite a bit of risk when playing her. she's not very bulky either (i think she has the same bulk as commando) so you really gotta know what you're doing

it doesn't help that arti's alts make her even more complicated

[placid talon]

that true

yet she have strong stun (or additioan huge damage) and wall that frozes enemies and taunting them

the only issue that I found while playing her is that she cannot cancel her flamerthrower

[livid garden]

she actually can

with her primary!

just like in ror2

[placid talon]

oh really?

in ror2 I believe you can cancel just by ctrl

[livid garden]

yeah ror2 also lets you cancel it with the primary

[placid talon]

never knew about that lmao

thx that useful information

[livid garden]

you should try altrificer

it's excessively complicated but has some fun to it, when you're not running in circles for 5 minutes from flying enemies

[placid talon]

as I said I played her already, she is quite strong

in the first attemp I'm almost beated judgement but lost due to mistake

[livid garden]

oh i mean

altrificer (full alt artificer)

[placid talon]

ohhh

I love her alt secondary but her alt ult is quite strange for me

[tender gazelle]

it is a lot more complicated to use than flamethrower

but worth it once you get the hang of it

[placid talon]

yeah that true

[livid garden]

localized sun is simultaneously safer and way more dangerous than flamethrower

it's good for poking and sometimes you can combo it with your own attacks for major damage

[placid talon]

I guess the main thing is to damage dangerous enemy from the safe spot?

[tender gazelle]

something like that