ror-wiki-discussion

[swift plinth]

[stuck saffron]

but I really don't think the poison is actually critting, it's a result of the "hit" triggering the poison critting imo

and I guess there are "fake" hits to trigger the sludge's poison or something?

without looking at the code I'm just throwing out wild guesses

it's easier to say that it crits

[swift plinth]

But then what about Golden Gun or other damage modifiers

[stuck saffron]

those don't get affected by crits?

[swift plinth]

Huh

[stuck saffron]

genuine question

[swift plinth]

I mean, if poison is affected by crits, shouldn't it also be affected by those

[stuck saffron]

oooh

[swift plinth]

All damage multipliers are affected by prior damage multipliers in the sequence, so yes

[stuck saffron]

right that's what I assumed

[swift plinth]

Though keep in mind that the end result is equivalent to all of them multiplying together

[stuck saffron]

well no, it's not "proc-capable"

wait hold on

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

240x2x2 (crit + golden gun)

golden gun affects the primary's poison but not sludge

epidemic's poison isn't affected by either (and its displayed damage numbers vary, so it's probably based off of base damage directly)

yup toxin works too

[swift plinth]

Are you certain sludge is affected by crits?

[stuck saffron]

1000 base damage, sludge does 90% = 900, *2 = 1800

noticed it trying to test it on multiple enemies, one randomly had double damage

[swift plinth]

So the Poison effect of the primary acts like %TOTAL
Epidemic's poison depends only on %BASE
And Sludge is some cursed thing that can be affected by crits, and only crits???

[stuck saffron]

if toxin is applied AFTER the poison is applied, the damage doesn't go up, only if toxin is applied before

[stuck saffron]

seems like it!

3 different poisons!

[swift plinth]

Well we knew we had at least 2, Sludge doesn't influct a DoT, it actually just hits enemies

I figured there were only 2, though

[stuck saffron]

btw alt utility's poison doesn't crit

[swift plinth]

"Poison" damage inflictions, and Poison DoT

[swift plinth]

I don't know if that's better or worse at this point

Why is sludge affected by crits and nothing else

[stuck saffron]

it's so weird

[swift plinth]

For the record, I'm quite sure Artificer's burn DoTs depend only on %BASE

[stuck saffron]

primary's poison works exactly like rusty knife's bleed, which is %TOTAL damage

[swift plinth]

Which is what I thought acrid's DoTs would do, too

[stuck saffron]

yup, it's base

gonna modify Acrid's primary's description on the wiki I guess

there we go

[grave rose]

all survivors now move at the same speed

[stuck saffron]

lmaoo

actual proper speed percentages maybe?

[granite flax]

omg yes decaying sample finally stacks

[stuck saffron]

my bug reports were useful 💪

[granite flax]

ill get on to getting pics of all the new maps assembled

[stuck saffron]

gonna need something like this now

[vivid laurel]

am i gonna have to make a new scorching heart video

[stuck saffron]

huh, maybe

would be better if it's up to date, for sure

but don't feel pressured to do it lol

[vivid laurel]

i am curious to see how these trials were updated

i wonder what they even did to main systems offline

probably just number changes

[stuck saffron]

I can probably compare

but it'll take me a bit

[vivid laurel]

55

[stuck saffron]

huh oh

[vivid laurel]

well that video will need to be updated then lol

WAIT BLADES IN THE WIND NEEDS 4 NOW?

oh the icon for Butcher looks pretty violent lol

[stuck saffron]

damn that looks cool

will add it ASAP

looking good

they dropped the update right when I was about to go eat damnit

[analog thunder]

kill

[stuck saffron]

welp, I huh, kinda lost my custom trial lol

gonna have to find it again here

[void flume]

If I get out of bed, I can hand you mine

[stuck saffron]

it's ok I got

ty

[void flume]

Bed it is!

[crude path]

wow, badass

[ashen shard]

now that the patch is out, can anyone check and see if somehow the prism pilot skin and the judgement robomando skin are now obtainable ?

[spiral moat]

Oh thanks for reminding brb robomando run

[spiral moat]

No skin popup on completion

[vocal sapphire]

No silent unlock either?

[stuck saffron]

very sad 😢

[spiral moat]

nope

[vocal sapphire]

oh well, back to not playing the game until they fix that

[stuck saffron]

btw sludge damage is affected by acrid's alt primary

[ashen shard]

maybe one day we will get it ||(the power of future modding noises)||
all thats left is to check if the prism skin for pilot is now obtainable but i doubt that it is

[swift plinth]

I'm sorry what

What about crowbar

[stuck saffron]

nope

[crystal onyx]

that is SO RAW

I love it

[void flume]

Ooh, this is neat

There's also this, which makes me want to go back into the skillboxes and make 'Rapid Fire' yellow.

I think I'll do that now actually, while it's on the mind

[vivid laurel]

i love that little animation

[void flume]

You might imagine that I'm also one for little gifs showing how something works

[stuck saffron]

all items gifs when

[void flume]

Whenever I uh, also get my test environment back..

Whoops.

[stuck saffron]

lmao you too?

[void flume]

Also when we draw focus to item pages, as well

[void flume]

yup

Looks like the update cleared everything

[stuck saffron]

this is what I have for now

[void flume]

I had mine filled with comments so I could easily scroll to segments and stuff, rough

[stuck saffron]

oh 😦

[void flume]

Guess that's a lesson in making backups

[stuck saffron]

oh right I need to test the new speed

oh wow everyone at 2.8 now

except robo lmao

still 3.6

movement items still give flat bonuses and not %

[void flume]

We'll have to retest Arti and CHEF, it sounds like

[stuck saffron]

Oh true

[stuck saffron]

acrid bubble does 75% around it when you jump on it now

and when you hit it

bouncing above enemies is a valid strat now lol

[spring storm]

imagine not having a full system backup

[patent geode]

has anyone got around to making a betterui for this yet?

[stuck saffron]

there is a lang file replacement somewhere

but that's it until mod support

[vale bramble]

sounds op to be honest lol. will have to try it

[spring storm]

have 4 people jump on it, ruin all enemys

[ivory prairie]

is there supposed to be a skin?

[vocal sapphire]

he's got an icon for one in the files, but beyond that I don't think we know if it's just cut content or "the unlock is bugged"

[ivory prairie]

yeah ive seen the unused file i didnt know if it was implemented yet

i think they wouldve addressed it if it was a bug imo

[void flume]

I mean there are also Eclipse icons in the files, so it's all potentially just there as unused content

[cedar wind]

Does bouncing on it still move the bubble slightly downward?

[granite flax]

almost very certainly not a bug, since i imagine they are keenly aware of it

but i could eat my words

[finite ruin]

so what does scepter do on robomando?

[ember glade]

chance to get an extra item

[vivid laurel]

Not sure how to edit page names but this trial is supposed to be called "Scorching Heart"
https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Scorching_Heat

noticed the typo in my video thumbnail and its been fixed accordingly

speaking of which, i've uploaded new gold rank videos for Blades in the Wind, Routine Maintenance, and Scorching Heart and updated the video links on each page

[void flume]

Should be corrected, now

Let me know if I missed any instances mentioning "scorching heat"

[humble dawn]

I gotta say, you guys are doing amazing work. I’ve never seen a wiki that’s tHIS GOOD

[old summit]

has anyone seen the "Username's Scraps" item?

apparently from scrapping co op drones

repulsion armor was the other one we found

[candid trellis]

anything new?

[high maple]

How do we approach the bonus stocks btw because they are considered items by the game

But you cant find them in normal games

[grave rose]

don't do anything tbh

or make 1 page about bonus stocks as a whole and what trials they appear in

[high maple]

Also i have something for trivia about bonus stocks

In the recycle provi trial you can actually recycle the bonus recycle charges into knives

It’s definitely not worth suffering the cooldown but its a neat quirk

[haughty schooner]

is there an item log for the strange battery

[quartz perch]

no

[stuck saffron]

no

[haughty schooner]

should be

i want l o r e

[tacit beacon]

does it state on the wiki that blighted enemies can only be volatile, blazing and frenzied

[void flume]

It used to. It was corrected, but I've also never seen an Overloading or Leeching Blighted, so...

[tacit beacon]

ah

i died to one

on a god run

did all my health bar from just the passive lightning

[void flume]

I'm wondering if maybe they're weighted rarities, or maybe limited per enemy?

[tacit beacon]

yeah thats what i think too

[void flume]

Because I've definitely never seen an overloading Blighted Clayman

[tacit beacon]

yeah i got a blighted lemurian horde of many tp boss

i was playing pilot and while flying i just suddenly die

fortunately i clipped it

and just saw a random lightning hit me

[granite flax]

hogh

what if i scrapped myself and you kept me safe

out of curiosity

[brisk willow]

the hell is that?

[stuck saffron]

huh, wonder if it actually has a use

[granite flax]

scrapping yourself as an mp drone now possible!

[brisk willow]

why

acutally scratch that i guarentee it has a use

[granite flax]

could just be for the funny

[grizzled pasture]

Does it affect respawning?

[granite flax]

this is so messed up i think they scrubbed the tardigrade

lynx empower totem is still in

[stuck saffron]

how dare they

[granite flax]

ok phew nevermind its still in

just not on the enemy spritesheets anymore

its on one with just it, the inverted color shrine, and some misc. ui elements i dont recognize off the top of my head

texture 125

[stuck saffron]

oh phew

[granite flax]

have we checked status on pilot skin

[stuck saffron]

not sure

[crystal onyx]

you can scrap co-op drones??? LMAO

also, sidenote, is standoff scepter really this bad???

[granite flax]

i feel like its already a very strong ability and that was their reasoning?

[crystal onyx]

I mean the ingame description is wildly incorrect

so its probably a bug

which the wiki people noted

im just surprised

[stuck saffron]

in-game it says 2*600% yeah, reported it as a bug cause it's a huge discrepancy compared to other errors

[stuck saffron]

My favorite wrong description is glowing meteorite

[quartz perch]

thats a pretty bizarre mistake wow

[old summit]

The bean is safe

[crystal onyx]

woah wtf

that would explain why it always felt so powerful against bosses

[patent geode]

made a page

[quartz perch]

btw at least one of the contact light variants has a second location for it log, right about this spot

im not sure if its also on the second variant and idk how to get a screenshot of it to put on the wiki

[stuck saffron]

Yeah it's in both spots I remember grabbing both in one of my first runs

[stuck saffron]

hmmm?

[haughty schooner]

new drone on the way

[grave rose]

why is it called X3

is default X0 or is it going to replace the explosive drone?

[plush stone]

Probably a scrapped m2 for HAN-D?

[stuck saffron]

blast is X4 for some reason

[stuck saffron]

yeah probably

[quartz perch]

i feel like this isnt new

i remember seeing a scrapped han-d drone before

[grave rose]

I mean it kinda achieves the same purpose as blast with the overclock duration thing, so probably an early blast prototype

[stuck saffron]

maybe they realized lowering equip cooldown was broken

[quartz perch]

yeah dee even mentioned it before looks like

[stuck saffron]

oh wow so it wasn't broken it was trash

wild

[spiral moat]

Add note to strange battery quest that Equipment chest doesn't spawn while Artifact of Enigma is On

[stuck saffron]

lmaooo

[stuck saffron]

ok so, did some quick testing on scepter

the first stack does not provide cdr on the special

[spiral moat]

yea

it is first upgrade, then CDR per additional stack

[stuck saffron]

yeah

kind of assumed the first stack gave cdr as well

it is 30% as described though, so that's nice

[spring storm]

thats kinda how its worded

"stack" means in addition to the initial

[spiral moat]

Just confirming behaviours is nice thing to do

[stuck saffron]

yeah, also confirmed that the cdr is not linear, which is to be expected but nice to confirm (30% > 55% > 61% etc.)
also skills can't go below 0.5s cooldown

[spiral moat]

Wait or is it command that blocks the equipment chache?

[stuck saffron]

do you have sacrifice on lol

[spiral moat]

no

+Cognation, prestige and umm

origin

Or does kin do that

Another run then I can read only the save for some Judgement pain

[stuck saffron]

https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1185335345848537188 what even is the point of a wiki

[spiral moat]

What is point of experimenting and finding out there is one was it 10% or 5% can't remember top off my head

nvm I'm an idiot, forgot new interactables off from speedrun attempts

[stuck saffron]

hahaha

[spiral moat]

While I think it might be unnecessary mentioning it would be good in there

[haughty schooner]

One of the artifacts block the equipment cache? Why?

I mean I guess maybe enigma?

Oh lmao sorry you already answered what was up

[spiral moat]

sacrifice blocks it since it is chest

[haughty schooner]

Ah right

[spiral moat]

I was just being idiot

[wispy flame]

Why are there so many incorrect attack descriptions in the game?

[quartz perch]

the game probably just went through a lot of balancing and they forgot to update the descriptions every time

or at times, just forget to add the changes after adding the description (hello standoff scepter)

[grizzled dove]

Should the wiki be moved off fandom?

[scenic fulcrum]

the wiki worked on here is on wiki.gg, as shown in the bar at the top of discord's screen in this channel

[grizzled dove]

Thank you, it appears google has been screwing with me.

[scenic fulcrum]

there's plugins that i think try to shunt fandom from top results

the problem is that fandom as a site gets so much traction that google's algo puts it at the top usually

[grizzled dove]

Also they pay for higher ranking

[scenic fulcrum]

far as i'm aware yeah probably

[stuck saffron]

lmao wanted to see what would happen if I spawned the terminal thing to leave the planet in a trial

alright so providence gets a lot of armor when you get him to certain thresholds huh

[grave rose]

for version history, what's the order for listing updates?

[stuck saffron]

I'd say most recent at the top

[odd lodge]

that is how its usually done

[proven crane]

encountered a drone upgrade station during this run but i had sacrifice, its been like this, quite iffy in my opinion, though that upgrade stations didnt spawn in sacrifice

[surreal idol]

oh! apparently blazing collosi spawn blazing wisps

[elder egret]

The overloading ones spawn jellyfish

Idk about leeching, volatile, frenzied, or blighted tho

[spring storm]

blighted just spawn blighted stone golems, they dont spawn naturally though i dont think

[surreal idol]

also for some funny reason, improvise use while charging steady aim reduces cooldown until steady aim starts charging again, and you can spam it for a free extra steady aim

[elder egret]

But it stops charging as long as your improvising

[surreal idol]

yeah
but free stock (kinda)

[grave rose]

made a list of every address mentioned in the logbook on my user page https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/User:FIV if that's of any use for random trivia

there's a few sets of items delivered to the same person/place which is pretty interesting

[spiral moat]

Since I'm unfamiliar with editing wiki I think it should be meintioned in Acrids Alt Utility details that to teleport you will need to land and can take fall damage while using it if used from high enough.
https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Acrid#Details-3

[placid iris]

Sniper's utility skill on the wiki is missing its cooldown

[stuck saffron]

thanks for reporting it

[old summit]

just noticed you misspelled "address" in all the trivia

[grave rose]

I copy pasted it and didn't notice

[old summit]

i feel that

white green and red should be all fixed now

[grave rose]

I think this should be all of them

[old summit]

cool cool

its on your user page as well

[grave rose]

who cares

[dense thicket]

What exactly is "armor"?

How does it stack

[ivory prairie]

just saw this in the wiki

should the scepter version also be 125%?

[plush stone]

Kinda, yes

[spring storm]

linearly? if you mean damage reduction 100/(100+armor)

[remote imp]

so happy to see the wiki is on wiki.gg instead of fandom 🤮

[grave rose]

I'm gonna be honest I have no idea what we should do with the 1 page per challenge idea. a lot of them will just have nothing of value and I think we can add anything important to the page of the respective item/survivor

the guy who wrote the original 3 is nowhere to be found as well

[stuck saffron]

thx, fixed

[spiral moat]

Well I think best would be general tips/strategy for each trial even if they are mostly straight foward

[grave rose]

this isn't about trials this is about achievements

[spiral moat]

Oh well they can also have some tips to unlock

[grave rose]

like, what do we even say about i.e. "defeat 20 lemurians" or "die 50 times". also all of the trial ones are just repeats for what the trial page already has

[stuck saffron]

either go the RoR2 wiki way or nothing I guess

[grave rose]

any tips can go on the page for what it unlocks, there's a few items that already have notes about unlocking it

[spiral moat]

Could add "simple" challenges page for ones that are self explanotory(spelling?) but some of them honestly would be nice to have tips for (mostly the Multikill ones, ones where you need to kill/get Specific things)

Tho it isn't detrimental to have same info on both pages (Unlock item/Ability tips on item and its challenge page)

[grave rose]

ok I'd say challenges that are just:

• doing a specific trial
• doing judgement
• finding a prism
• finding an artifact
• robomando
  don't need their own pages. the rest can have them ig

maaybe we can do one centralised page on all prism skins too

[winged wind]

You are welcome

Of course I want to be humble, I first asked suncles n that about wiki.gg

They made it happen but I like to think I was ground zero

[quartz perch]

yeah i agree with all that

and the prism page because thats helpful too

having an individual page for every secret/challenge is very unnecessary

[vale bramble]

Not sure if any wiki editors saw the discussion from earlier in the main channel but COOK has a stun thats not listed in game or on the wiki, figured I'd mention it.

[stuck saffron]

damnit

thanks for bringing it up

[queen urchin]

It should be added to the ||Secret Survivor's|| Wiki page that there is a special music track that plays after beating the game.
I cannot find the music anywhere nor any reference to it, but I got a win and was shocked by the banger that played

[odd lodge]

hit it son

nah but i think one big challenge page OR the challenges are on the page of the thing that it unlocks as a subtitle with a redirect from challenge name to the unlock's page

[stuck saffron]

thank you 🙏

[odd lodge]

i dont mind fandom

nvm i use an adblocker on everything

[ashen shard]

[patent geode]

Heya, I think it should be noted that beating embryo has no effect on gigantic amethest ;p i've never edited a wiki before and i dont want to mess anything up lol

it would be sick of it gave an extra stock :(

[quartz perch]

beating embryo doesn't work for a bunch of actives yeah

[patent geode]

would that go on the embryo page or the equipment page or both?

[quartz perch]

probably should have its effects listed on its page at some point but thatll take a bunch of testing

[quartz perch]

should go on both imo

i think its helpful if all equipment pages tell you their respective embryo effect

[grave rose]

doesn't embryo make it reset 2 ability stacks instead of 1?

[quartz perch]

it probably does that if your ability is already stackable

like pilot special and whatnot

[stuck saffron]

Should go on embryo's page

[stuck saffron]

It doesn't

[patent geode]

so sad

oh so sad

[stuck saffron]

Bgkillas did test every equipment but I forgot to put the data on the wiki

[quartz perch]

oh huh

[spring storm]

the no effects are money bag(probably), marble, drone kit, amythyst, and dynamite(probably)

[grave rose]

going through the ror1 wiki for trivia to copy and man does 2013 hopoo love maplestory

[grizzled pasture]

Yeah Embryo doesn't seem to do anything with Repair Kit

[spring storm]

so sad because all they had to do was increase the effect duration

[noble wigeon]

hey quick question when you guys plan on adding robomando to the wiki? cause like the game been out for two months now and i think people that missed out on the initial outburst of the news will not be able to get it

[quartz perch]

he's on the wiki

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Robomando

[noble wigeon]

oh he just isnt on the character got it

[dusty phoenix]

hello, I'm wondering why the wiki says so many of the damage numbers for characters is wrong?

[quartz perch]

we wouldnt really know, the devs probably changed the values a lot during balancing and forgot to update the character description

[dusty phoenix]

ahh, that makes sense, thank you for answering my question!

[quartz perch]

theyll likely fix the descriptions in a later update? but for now the numbers on the wiki are correct

[dusty phoenix]

because I know the devs wouldn't just straight up lie for no reason lol

[dusty phoenix]

ahh, I see, word! tyty :D

[quartz perch]

ror2 did also have some issues with character descriptions that are still not fixed till today but a lot of the numbers in this game are a lot more egregious so hopefully they wont leave it as is

[odd lodge]

peron accumulator ahem

[amber gull]

as a long term idea, yall should try adding little png gifs of the attack animations for the skills

[void flume]

That is in fact something I spent like a week or two doing, which is implemented on every character page already.

[amber gull]

oh wait really

[void flume]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Commando#Showcase-0

every ability has a showcase tab

[amber gull]

oh yeahhhhh the showcase button

i was thinkin like one of these

except like

the attack

[quartz perch]

?

idgi

the showcase gifs are already there what would these even be

or where

[stuck saffron]

These things took so much time to make

[amber gull]

damn

thanks

[haughty schooner]

paid off, theyre so cute

[mystic pasture]

I think these enemy animations came from game files, not hand crafted, so they were easy to extract for the wiki. The ability animations that are on the wiki now are hand-crafted, and changing the background and adding borders for them would take ages.

[amber gull]

ok yea that makes sense

[stuck saffron]

nope had to hand-craft those

[mystic pasture]

Oh wow

[spring storm]

direseekers gif has a pixel error in the bottom left

[granite flax]

yeah ive seen that one

i like it. that pixel is my friend

[granite flax]

they werent that difficult to make were they? i thought we got them done pretty hassle-free

[stuck saffron]

Just took a while and had to position each animation to match the logbook

[sharp abyss]

Should it be added to the wiki that Drifter's scrap cube can bounce off of Acrid's toxic bubble?

[quartz perch]

??

dude holy shit

yeah add that

[spring storm]

will it just keep bouncing if its against a wall? very cool find

[old summit]

or even between two boxes

[ivory prairie]

Error found: speed drones

Should these things be pointed out?

[grave rose]

I'm 90% certain that's what it said in game back when I made this page

they've probably fixed it since then

yep it used to say that in game. I've never updated my copy of the better descriptions lang file and it's still there on it

[quartz perch]

i dont think theyre denying that theyre just saying it should be pointed out

[grave rose]

fixed

and I've added the change to version history

[stuck saffron]

Yes pls, thanks for reporting it

[runic sapphire]

Hey, how did yall make the training area for the wiki?

[spring storm]

you can edit the main.trials file in the game files

you can do pretty much anything

here is my current one, only the top thing is changed

you need to edit the layout file to get it to work

[old summit]

Also we’ve got a file with a ton of the item names and stats if you wanted to mess around with those

[spring storm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SzZ7N4eyVctU1qqhQvI1P_FqlC2iJoMEzER9LFxjjxA/edit#gid=665328269 here is said file

[spring storm]

enemy damage seems to not round up?

might be float based even

well probably not, at lvl 3 i take 0 noticible damage from 1 damage lemurian while at 1 and 2 i do take 1 damage

[old summit]

Did judgement have the regen block in the file?

[vivid laurel]

Updated the Blades in the Wind page to include some missing spawn information

after you kill 15 beasts, Blighted Archer Bugs spawn

also overloading archer bugs can spawn as well

[spiral moat]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Distortion
States that pilot can't hit the button under normal circumstances which is just false.
Unsure how to edit wiki so I leave it to the ones who know how.

Also noticed Artifact of Spite states it is Variation 3 rather than 1, 2 and 3 https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Spite

Artifact of Glass is missing Variation 3 as possible Also tip that loader default special can be used to hit all buttons at once https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Glass

Artifact of Kin Missing Possible Variations (1, 2 and 3 only) https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Kin

Artifact of Enigma Missing Possible Variations (1, 2 and 3 only) https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Enigma

Artifact of Sacrifice aswell missing possible variations (1, 2 and 3) Also tip that loader default special can be used to hit all buttons at once https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Sacrifice

Artifact of Command also missing Variations (1, 2 and 3)

Artifact of Dissonance Shards are found in Ancient Valley, Sunken Temple, Magma Barracks and Hive Cluster variants 4, 5 and 6

[quartz perch]

just to make sure, you do this by putting thw pylon at the first and last buttons?

alright i did all of it except the loader magma barracks buttons tip because idk how you do that

[spiral moat]

Default special makes rectangle with pylons being opposite corners, brb recording clip for it

on the way clip for glass

[spiral moat]

Needed to loop few times but the pylon placements should be sufficient even if there is tons of mobility in clip it works without any items

[granite flax]

damn, awesome stuff!

good research :)

[lost marsh]

is it known how enemy spawning works in some of the trials?

i golded "a fresh harvest" but on my first attempt i was getting bombarded with brambles and evolved lemurians on top of the golems and lemurians, but on my second attempt there was zero brambles and the evolved lemurians stopped after a bit

[small mirage]

curious to know if boss music is randomly selected or is it stage dependent? The wiki on "soundtrack" details when all of the stage music plays, but all of the boss tracks are just listed as "Teleporter Event" except for the stage 5 and prov fight.

[quartz perch]

stage dependent

[small mirage]

swag

[spring storm]

some are very manual spawns tied to score, some are just the stage director which is changed to work a way from normal stages

[old summit]

just checked and "a fresh harvest" is manual spawns

[keen mulch]

the GG wikis for Risk of Rain Wiki at https://riskofrain.wiki.gg/ and the Risk of Rain 2 Wiki at https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/ are now live

[cobalt ore]

yippee!! death to fandom.com

[quartz perch]

peak

hopefully people spread it around so that it gets more use and edits

[lament sierra]

Pog

[placid salmon]

speaking of which

Idk how long this has been the case but the GG for returns is now officially the first result instead of the outdated fandom page

[stark carbon]

Yaaaayyy!

[gentle fog]

Question
Thoughts on moving ⁠#rorr-wiki-discussion to the Creative category and just naming it ror-wiki-discussion?

Choices
👍 yeppers
nah m8

Settings
:one: allowed choice

Poll ID: 7ac0d9be

[lament sierra]

Bummer, I can’t react with

The true answer to all questions

[rare forum]

I think it should be stated that Lights out and Standoff can be held, maybe it's obvious but it could go into details
(im saying it cuz I fr fr didnt know about it)
https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Bandit

[last pulsar]

The trivia for engineer saying he has the most skill icons is incorrect, chef has the most, 4 normal, 3 unlocks, 2 from the Scepter and an extra 5 from second helping

Very important!!

[old summit]

engi does have more than chef in part because of his skills having charges. primary base (1), primary alt (1), secondary base (4), secondary alt (4), javelin (1), gun turret (4), laser turret (3)

[old summit]

so its 18 for him compared to the 14 of chef

interestingly there is two skill sprites in chefs files that seem like an alt for Sear but i might be wrong

[gray vector]

oh hey

there's finally an in-server channel for wiki discussion

[ember glade]

🙏

[trail bolt]

the people have spoken

[old summit]

we have been moved

[vast stone]

so now that its "ror-wiki" does that include ror1 and ror2

[cobalt ore]

yes, check it: #ror-wiki-discussion message

[granite flax]

we are one..

[lament sierra]

Democracy has brought the channels together

[torn inlet]

no it was the power of friendship

[elder egret]

I would claim that it was the power of Suncles but yeah let’s go with friendship

[torn inlet]

suncles is the CEO of friendship so... yeah its the power of friendship that made this honorable milestone

[lament sierra]

[lament sierra]

It was democracy and friendship

[umbral turret]

So is the wiki the fandom wiki or do we have an actual proper wiki now?

[torn inlet]

actual wiki 🔥

down with fandom

[umbral turret]

What's it called?

Is it just risk of rain wiki?

[torn inlet]

https://riskofrain.wiki.gg/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_Wiki
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_2_Wiki

and ofc theres the returns one as well https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_Returns_Wiki

[umbral turret]

Thx

[sharp abyss]

how do i get drifters name to be colored with her color? this is what i got but idk how to change the color of her name to hers

oh and should i add this to scrap cube also or nah?

[old summit]

It should just be {{color|drifter|Drifter}}

I know for the skills we did it with a template

[sharp abyss]

That worked, thanks

Hmm but its not a link now , idk I'll leave it with the color but i can change it back if yall would rather it be a link

[old summit]

I’ll check later when I’m home

[patent tendon]

What are the best items to get on every character

[wintry pulsar]

This is the wiki channel

[old summit]

Fixed it

[astral pulsar]

why is the wiki structured like this

I don't know much about designing how wikis should look like but i'm pretty sure these should be popups for when you hover over their names

[vagrant geode]

why are you using the mobile version

[astral pulsar]

im on pc

[somber zealot]

oh yeah no that's just what it looks like

that's probably not intended

[vagrant geode]

fandom broke probably

[astral pulsar]

this is the wiki.gg wiki

[vagrant geode]

there is a wiki.gg wiki for ror2?

cool

[astral pulsar]

riskofrain2.wiki.gg

[sharp abyss]

We dont like Fandom

[lament sierra]

Nobody likes fandom

[lavish nexus]

[keen mulch]

If you have low health, below 32 at the start for huntress, after a while it quickly regens back to 32. can't find anything about this on the wiki, is it difficulty related?

[keen mulch]

I'm afraid that there are no editors for the new wikis

And thus issues caused by the fork have not been fixed

[sharp abyss]

its really weird that it does that, all I know for doing this wiki stuff is by looking at how other pages are done and copying it so idk how to fix it, but if someone does know I'm willing to go through and fix it all I just don't know how.

[grave rose]

I think it's an issue with hoverovers and the rorr wiki does have functioning hoverovers with SkillLink and ItemLink templates so we might be able to just copy some stuff from there to fix it?

[sharp abyss]

I'll see what i can do tomorrow

[old summit]

those hover overs are so cool to see

[ashen shard]

ok so i found something interesting about the scepter version of standoff (quick draw)
the part where it says that it does x2 dmg was not 100% false, it just didn't mention that you have to hold the gun and wait for the ability to go on cooldown while holding the gun (and yes when that happens the gun does fire both shots without pressing the button again but it does shoot it slower compared to the scepter version of lights out (Assassinate) )

tried to do the same thing with lights out too and yet it doesn't work at all

[ashen shard]

did a test again without the amethyst so i can confirm that this is a scepter upgrade

[ashen shard]

small update: from the second test above i did had to press the button again for the second shot but when i found out about this by accident during my run i did had some attack speed items so probably thats why the gun just shot 2 times without me having to press the button 2 times

[sharp abyss]

so.. it doesn't auto shoot the second shot without attack speed?

[ashen shard]

yeah...
a bit strange i guess

[sharp abyss]

I see what you mean, so how do we make these templates so that we can fix the other wiki?

i will have to check but i though i got a medkit from it once

[grave rose]

no idea tbh

[old summit]

I’ve definitely had a medkit out of it

[sharp abyss]

gonna add vial to the list too

[stuck saffron]

haven't had much time for wiki editing lately, but I might be able to do something once I'm free

these hovers require access to the common.css and js files of the wiki though

[sharp abyss]

ahh, is that why it didn't work when the other wiki got transferred?

[stuck saffron]

I wasn't involved with the transfer, but to me it looks like the content was transferred but not the whole CSS maybe? just going off the screenshots there so I might be wrong

shouldn't be a hard fix if it's using templates

[sharp abyss]

its like all the hover overs are all happening at once it makes it really hard to read

[stuck saffron]

yeah, the way these work is, they're loaded into the page at all times, but only displayed once you hover the relevant text

here because the CSS to hide/display the popups is missing, they're just displayed at all times

but only a wiki admin has access to these files

[sharp abyss]

gotcha.. so only an admin can fix it

[stuck saffron]

well, when I asked for access on the rorr wiki they just made me admin lol

so I assume so

[sharp abyss]

lol

[spiral moat]

Adding video for Energy Cell having scaling bonus that isn't just low health, don't know how to demonstrate it better

[stuck saffron]

Yeah it's up to 40% at low health but you still get an increase when you're not low health iirc

[sharp abyss]

I think "Shield Tackle" lowers gravity, idk if something else is going on though

[quartz perch]

it does

[sharp abyss]

It seems to only work if the skill was activated while in the air which is interesting

[plush stone]

It does lower your gravity

[sharp abyss]

I will add it to the wiki tomorrow 👍, do we know if this is a bug though?

[quartz perch]

dont see why it would be

[sharp abyss]

Idk, it just seems really weird that the anti gravity is only if it was used mid air

[quartz perch]

ig

it feels good to use so they should just make it always do that instead

[small mirage]

I asked a similar question before, but does anyone know which specific boss songs are used on what stages?

[quartz perch]

i can probably make a list when im at my pc

[noble summit]

greetings. this is incorrect, the "3 yellow eyes" are not eyes. they are unknown metallic growths as explained in the ror2 log. literally unplayable please fix ty!

[old summit]

the problem is the graphic shows them as glowing orbs which are also used in the crab graphic so it gets a bit messy comparing them to others

[noble summit]

sure, but the logs dont say they're eyes, just metal growths. if you look at their characters its more obvious

it would be better to say that theyre unknown metal growths as shown in the logs, or at least specified that they are assumed to be eyes rather than fact

[old summit]

i was meaning the log graphics

[noble summit]

yes i know

but again it is not fact that they are eyes

the ror2 logs state they are metallic growths

[old summit]

we also havent (mostly) used ror2 logs as information for anything in rorr due to conflicting information sometimes (iirc)

[noble summit]

ok sure, but it is still not stated that they are eyes. its misinformation

it would be fine if it specified that they are assumed to be eyes

[old summit]

heres gummy talking about it

[old summit]

thats probably a better wording for it yea

[granite flax]

they are pretty explicitly not eyes

crab eye vs bison growth log art

[dark warren]

they're closer to looking like pearls than anything

[old summit]

There was a tiny conversation about them ages ago but I don’t think we particularly chose which way to go on them

[quartz perch]

they shiny because metallic

i dont think it makes any sense for them to be eyes anyways

they DEFINITELY dont look like eyes on the sprite either

me bashing my three eyes at light speed

[pastel carbon]

there is a possibility that bison do use them to see, as there is precedent for eyes made with inorganic materials

see the chitton

but that being said, that's purely speculation and there is otherwise nothing pointing to them being eyes

[granite flax]

in fact there are multiple things pointing to them NOT being eyes

[placid salmon]

the what

[pastel carbon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiton

I misspelled it oopsies

[placid salmon]

huh, funky dudes

also

I feel like the three RoR wikis should all link to one another

the RoR2 gg links to the RoR1 gg

and the RoR1 gg links back to the RoR2 gg

[cobalt ore]

re: #game-questions-returns message
rorr wiki disagrees with itself regarding where Command spawns. the Hive Cluster page says it spawns on variants #1 and #2 only, whereas the Command page says it spawns on #1, #2 and #3

[old summit]

fixed danke

[thorny tangle]

I think Robomando should be put on the survivors page of Risk of Rain Returns. I personally think it's silly to be hiding "secret" information on a wiki when people use wikis specifically to know about stuff. The page was locked in November 28, 2023 anyway.

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Survivors

[cobalt ore]

I disagree. I think it's better to avoid placing spoilers for something a player could potentially find themselves on one of the more popular, common-use pages

statistically, most people venturing to the Survivors page are not going there to look for secrets. so if Robomando is there, front and center, it spoils the secret for everyone that visits

[old summit]

it was locked primarily because at the release we had a lot of issues with people putting him on the wiki before he was meant to

[thorny tangle]

There could just be a "Spoiler" section that people can click to reveal. I see those on wikis all the time.

The ship has also already sailed with how nearly every stage wiki page has a "Secrets" section front and center on the table of contents.

I say 'nearly' because some of these are still WIPs and don't actually contain any information.

[old summit]

those bits are mainly used for artifacts, prisms and logs. (in saying that yea alot of them are very rough and need work) robo is kinda considered THE big secret of this game so its a bit of a special case

[cobalt ore]

I'd posit that those aren't really secrets in the way robomando is, and would probably better fit under a label like "unlockables"

a lot of the artifacts are just kinda sitting there. some of them are "secret" in that you need to do something specific to unlock them, but none of them require the kind of digging rm does

[sharp abyss]

i would agree, i personally like searching for secrets myself but I also need to check the wiki for stuff and I don't like it when I'm trying to look one thing up and other things get spoiled in the process.

[granite flax]

prisms are definitely secrets, too

they dont show up in the challenges or achievements menu until you unlock them

[old summit]

same with the prov skins

[placid salmon]

I'd argue the prisms are secrets, but not spoilers

as all they are is collectables

however the final providence trial IS kind of a spoiler, as going through it your first few runs and mapping out the stages can be its own experience

[distant hazel]

I don't get it

[sharp abyss]

Not sure what you dont get

[grave rose]

are functional spoiler tags a CSS thing? best we have is a warning, the text isn't actually hidden until opened

though I guess a collapsed table is more or less that

[distant hazel]

The different levels of spoilers/secrets hat is trying to describe

[dusty phoenix]

I have a question, how do the people who work on the wiki find stuff out and test it? Like damage percent and enemy health and stuff like that? I find thaat rteaally cool, especially conssidering it's kiinda hard to tinker with the game as it is now

[old summit]

we made a custom trial that had stat trackers by using a multishop for the values

the trials in general have a LOT that we can mess with

[dusty phoenix]

oh, how did you make a custom trial if I can ask?

[old summit]

theres a file called main.trials that has basically everything in somewhat plain text

just takes a bit to learn

[dusty phoenix]

ohh, neat!

thankks for the iinfo :D

[old summit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SzZ7N4eyVctU1qqhQvI1P_FqlC2iJoMEzER9LFxjjxA/edit#gid=665328269 theres alot of the names for things on here as well

[dusty phoenix]

WOAAAH

neat

I have another question, would there be a way for me to gain access to these tools? there are some things I want to test that aren't on the wiki yet (certain enemies health and damage) or is access to this stage private

[old summit]

we all had slightly different variations of the test stage for what we were working on so i can run you through a base one in pms if you want

[dusty phoenix]

yeah, I would appreciate it!

[old summit]

i pmed you a bit to get started

[granite flax]

yayyy bandit damage updated to be more accurate :)

[sharp abyss]

soo.... "shield tackle" can give an extra jump if you fall while using it. the extra jump can be used during or after the animation but goes away after hitting the ground. it does not give an extra jump if "shield tackle" is cast in the air. idk how much info should be put on the wiki about this or how it should be worded (unless i should just put all of this on the wiki)

[placid salmon]

huh

[rapid rapids]

I think it’s just that it allows you to jump if you haven’t yet, but if you have then you don’t get an extra jump

[placid salmon]

I think the real question is just whether or not it's intended

Or if it's just the game not realizing you haven't left the floor yet since you're in a "running" state

[sharp abyss]

Shield tackle is already bugy, it gives low gravity if cast in the air, and now i found out it can be used to save a jump

[echo tiger]

I had noticed while using the blink arrow on Huntress in the trial, if you don't jump before firing it then you can momentarily jump after you blink it looks like? Or is that known already

[rapid rapids]

Iirc the shield tackle Providence trial does have you do the jump thing, but I’d have to go check that in a bit

[placid salmon]

From what I can tell it's just a frame-perfect input where you're still considered "on the ground"

[quartz perch]

the timing's pretty lenient

not very frame perfect

it feels somewhat intended honestly, makes it feel way better to use for platforming

[orchid sundial]

why is the ror2 wiki.gg wiki so fucked up lol

did stuff just get messed up during conversion or is it meant to look like that

[cobalt ore]

I take a bit of issue with the way this is phrased on Providence's page. I feel like this should be either rephrased or removed altogether for a couple of reasons

1. I am unsure what about Providence's log suggests that the name was "beamed into [the survivor's] head." the way the log is phrased seems to suggest it is a name the survivor either came up with on their own, or learned through some other means. it being beamed into their head suggests a supernatural method for obtaining the knowledge, which is not suggested at all in the log.
2. I would argue that Providence's true name being Providence is not speculative. Other characters using honorifics to refer to him does not obfuscate his actual name. Furthermore, saying that other logs call him Providence "for consistency" feels like a stretch. Beads of Fealty's log is written in first person from the perspective of an inhabitant of Petrichor V, and calls him Providence. I would put forward that this is quite definitive proof that that is his name.

[old summit]

#ror-wiki-discussion message a wiki admin has to do some fixing for it

[orchid sundial]

right

[tropic phoenix]

Does anyone think it'd be a good idea to put like

size comparisons for the enemies in Returns, on their wiki pages?

Like put them next to a Commando for scale?

[tropic phoenix]

this would also mean there could be a full sprite for each of the monsters, because a good few of them don't get that

[smoky iron]

Hey I'm too lazy to make an account on Fandom, could someone update the Corpsebloom trivia on ROR2 wiki to include that it resembles and is inspired by the real-life corpse plant (Titan Arum, Amorphophallus titanum)? I think it'd be a cool little fact!!!

I also don't want to have a Fandom account because I hate Fandom 🤢

[smoky iron]

I think that'd be very nice!

[surreal idol]

there's a wiki.gg for ror2

[smoky iron]

Oh shit nice!

Kind of sucks that Fandom always has priority in search results.

[old summit]

That’s until the gg gets enough traffic but that’ll probably take a bit

[smoky iron]

Right.

[keen mulch]

and it gets updated/fixed

[granite flax]

whats not fixed about it?

[old summit]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Acrid

[old summit]

this bit

[granite flax]

OH the ror2 one haha

[old summit]

yee the transfer kinda cooked it

[granite flax]

erm

moderators... please...

are we allowed to ping moderators i dont want to break a rule to save a rule

all 75 of this persons messages in the server are this link

[wicked rock]

There already were 2 moderator pings but yes normally in this case pinging moderators is a good idea because its part of their role to wipe scams and hacked accounts

[tidal fjord]

someone already pinged the mods in another chat. they seem to have posted the link in almost every chat by now

[wicked rock]

Nah they did it in all of them

Like literally every single one

[granite flax]

yup..

[granite flax]

they posted this gif in like a dozen chats

<@&559786374228738069> um, soz

[old summit]

alot of this page feels like ror2 information mixed in with rorr

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Teleporter

[sharp abyss]

ya the drops section is way off

[cobalt ore]

some of the information is just incorrect for both games, too

"All Shrines become disabled upon activating the Teleporter." - this is wrong, only shrines that damage you are disabled. other shrines are left active

[abstract blade]

Is this wiki still written by anyone?

[granite flax]

it's open to edit to the public, if you had a specific thing in mind!

i think most or all of the frequent editors have stepped back now

[abstract blade]

Unfortunate. The public shouldn't be able to write the wikis lol

[granite flax]

its a constant battle to keep them clean XD

[abstract blade]

I'm sure

[old summit]

The fight for the child

[stuck saffron]

one day I will return

[past stratus]

Hey,
What did I miss in my absence? uwu

@stuck saffron OMG YOU APPLIED THE BORDER TO SURVIVORS TOO IT LOOKS SO GREAT

[granite flax]

please... we need you.... my knowledge cant compensate for not knowing basic formatting

[stuck saffron]

yeah I'm pretty happy with them 🙂

[stuck saffron]

is there something specific you want me to take a look at?

[granite flax]

nothing that immediately comes to mind ^_^;

once i have the time and/or capability im going to sit down and try and reverse-engineer it all too

[blissful glen]

A friend and I have been using huntress’s flurry primary recently, and we feel that the 0.7 part of the 0.7x3 proc coefficient has it says on the wiki page is lower than that. Just asking here to make sure

[fair flower]

I'm going to find the RoF for all survivor M1s using OBS Studio and MPC-HC. Should I lower my quality to the lowest setting?

MPC-HC can seek videos by the millisecond.

Should I have any specific settings for OBS to ensure max accuracy?

[old summit]

If you want to put them into the wiki file you can request to edit and I’ll let you in

[fair flower]

I’ll gather all my data and post it in an excel file here

[old summit]

Cool cool

[sudden tulip]

are the "references" ever going to be explicitly listed? i have a feeling this is a bit unfinished and i only know one of the references

oh wrong wiki chat its so over fo me

[old summit]

we are all one wiki chat now

[sudden tulip]

oh alr

[patent geode]

one of em is kirbys

someone stated some of them too here but idk who

[distant hazel]

planets where?

oh duh the planetarium

this planet is a reference to the 3rd planet from the sun in our solar system

there's a ring that's apparently a Halo Array, Death Egg, Pop Star, Majora's Mask Moon, Zebes, Phaaze

the simulacrum version of Commencement has Dreamland

[sharp abyss]

didn't know there was so many references

[cyan trail]

shit they got to kirby

its over

[elder egret]

So is Kirby cannon that it’s now stuck in the void?

[graceful sun]

average tuesday for kirby

[elder egret]

https://tenor.com/view/kirbo-christian-channel-gif-19484690

[grizzled pasture]

Should sort itself out

[sudden tulip]

yeah i saw it

its really fucking cool

[sudden tulip]

absolutely not do you know kirby lore at all

kirby is basically the voids worst nightmare

void termina, dark matter, etc all got destroyed by him so i think planet popstar is just a bit of an ironic nod to kirby

[graceful sun]

tbf ror!void might've not known that about kirby

[elder egret]

I actually don’t so cut me some slack

[timber osprey]

kirby could defeat mithrix and providence together

[elder egret]

And then eat Voidling for breakfast the next morning

[timber osprey]

voidling power up: LASER
providence power up: WORMS and SORD
mithrix power up: depression HAMMER

[cyan trail]

tldr kirby is the strongest being in any game

[elder egret]

Not Smash Bros.

[cyan trail]

they had to nerf them

[covert glade]

is the wiki

true?

[wicked rock]

Often but not all the time

Though its mostly reliable

[ember light]

ror2 artificer page, flamethrower section

[granite flax]

depends on the wiki

[timber path]

Yeah that one is pretty cringe

wait it is fine

No way this page is

[grave rose]

they removed the funny a few months ago

[plain moth]

Dead chat

Dead chat

[winged wind]

How bout you contribute

[vestal jackal]

Real

[timber path]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-skeleton-gif-25954239

[strange mortar]

Why is there no "log" page , how else do i find stage logs?

[round tendon]

go to the 'environtments' page

then go to the page for the respective stage

[placid salmon]

lol

[cyan trail]

Alloy Vulture looking a bit different today

[sharp token]

Glow up or downgrade?

[timber osprey]

providence version of the alloy vulture

"BROTHER WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE DESIGN I MADE"

[placid salmon]

Vultures aren't constructs

[timber osprey]

o

[timber path]

this was what Solus Control Unit saw before hacking

[fair flower]

The following skills do not deactivate Red Whip:

Commando: Tactical Dive, Tactical Slide
Huntress: Blink, Warp Dart
Enforcer: Protect and Serve
Bandit: Smokebomb, Flashbang
HAN-D: OVERCLOCK
Miner: Backblast
Sniper: Military Training, Heavy Recoil
Acrid: Caustic Sludge
Mercenary: Blinding Assault
Loader: Debris Shield, Hydraulic Gauntlet
CHEF: GLAZE, SECOND HELPING
Pilot: Rapid Deployment, Aerobatics
Artificer: Frost Barrier, Tectonic Surge
Drifter: Tornado Slam, Recycle
Robomando: EVASIVE MANEUVER, RE-WIRE

[next canyon]

Alloy Bracken

[fair flower]

When latched onto a wall, Pilot's Rapid Fire delay goes from 0.15 seconds to 0.133 seconds

When using Clusterfire while latched onto a wall, Pilot can only shoot 3 shots before detetching.

[timber path]

[fair flower]

Does anyone know the minimum damage Loader's Bullet Punch and Huntress's Pierce can do?

[fair flower]

@void flume about this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SzZ7N4eyVctU1qqhQvI1P_FqlC2iJoMEzER9LFxjjxA/edit#gid=1846183309

why does Artificer's Flame Chakram say 90% for its damage when it's actually 45%

in he Animations tab, Flame CHakram has 2 in its E1 # column

[robust cargo]

Both

[void flume]

It's not my spreadsheet, I couldn't tell you

[old summit]

It was @swift plinth that did that part of it

[fair flower]

thx

@swift plinth above question

[swift plinth]

IIRC that damage is listed based on number of hits from the animation and the damage of the effect, another page should list those. Check the effects tab, I think it's called. Been months since I looked at though.

@fair flower

[swift plinth]

Yup, that's intentional.

[swift plinth]

Just got home and double checked. So chakrams and DICE are weird, because they hit each target twice with only the first of all hits incurring procs. The 90% is meant to be from 2 x 45% damage, though technically only one of those should benefit from procs. The calculator will slightly overestimate proc bonuses for those moves as a result, but fixing it would be too much work.

I could probably just change the way their proc damage is calculated ("Yellow" in piercing type)

[fair flower]

oh I get it now

chakram kinda behaves like DICE

[swift plinth]

It's like DICE for the normal damage, but with 5 additional hits at the apex that deal no direct damage but inflict burn

[fair flower]

the 2 red circles represent 2 instances of direct damage from flame chakram

[swift plinth]

Even more detailed depiction. White is damage that can proc, yellow is damage that cannot proc, red is burn application (but no direct damage)

[fair flower]

I got the picture now 😉

wait

wouldn't the red dots deal 10% damage?

@swift plinth Also, I found the delay for every survivor's M1s. I think you'll find it useful in your DPS calculator.

[fair flower]

here

[swift plinth]

Nope, just 10% burn per tick, at least last I played

[fair flower]

I'l have to do more Artificer testing so ignore any info on my spreadsheet about her until I update it.

[stuck saffron]

coming back to check the wiki chat and nothing's changed, arti's numbers are still as confusing as they were day 1

[patent geode]

Hu

[fair flower]

After-Image: 1 full, 1 half
After-Image stacked: 1 full, 1 half, 1 half
Between Time: 1 full, 1 half, 1 half
Between Time stacked: 1 full, 1 half, 1 half, 1 half

[timber path]

is so cute

[fair flower]

New information has been added to Pilot's Aerobatics section to include information about Clusterfire and Rapid Fire's properties while the Pilot is latched onto a wall.

I will also add the following statements to Mercenary's After-Image section:

After-Image adds 1 partial attack.
After-Image stacked twice and Between Time adds 2 partial attacks.
Between Time stacked twice adds 3 partial attacks.
All partial attacks trigger on-hit effects.

[cyan trail]

Could someone update the wiki with total item count?

[fair flower]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Robomando

about Robomando's primary ability

the wiki says it has the lowest DPS, but there are a few skills with worse DPS like HAN-D's HURT, SNiper's Improvise, and ENforcer's Riot Shotgun

[old summit]

Pretty sure that was added originally and then never updated after the page was created

[fair flower]

Should I remove it? The skills I listed previously may have lower dps but they hit multiple targets.

[old summit]

if they have lower dps on a single target then definately

[winged wind]

The solution is “single target dps”

[grave rose]

that just comes off as any ability against a single target

more like "lowest dps among exclusively single target abilities"

[round tendon]

this should say "scales with attack speed" instead of "scales with attack", right?

[rare briar]

is so fun to play

[fair flower]

I'll make sure to add that fact in it's wiki page.

[rare briar]

Based as fuck.

[rare briar]

OH I USED THE WRONG CHANNEL SORRY

[old summit]

this feels like someone cooked too hard right? seeing as the achieve is for killing magma worm, vagrant and colossus

[elder egret]

Man cooked that for way too long

[cobalt ore]

ironically, i thought this same thing about the achievement name

though it's likely more simple than that

i imagine it's using "before" as in "in front of"

e.g. "I stand before titans"

[thorn idol]

@fossil python Do you mind if I post that (with credit to you) on my Discord? Or come join it and post it. I wanna share that 😄

[fossil python]

Sure, you may do so

[thorn idol]

Ty ty

[fossil python]

can I see where?

[thorn idol]

Ummm... my discord link is in my channel description and (most) video descriptions

I think it'd be breaking rules or code of conduct in general to link another discord here

[fossil python]

okey

I'll find it

[cyan trail]

I love your one item per rarity series

[thorn idol]

Thank you 😄

[fair flower]

it appears the engy can only stand on default turrets but not the laser ones

[fair flower]

Eviscerate's inv period lasts for 0.999 seconds

however, the inv period shortens as you gain attack speed

each blinding assault's inv period lasts 0.466 seconds

it's inv period also decreases as you gain attack speed

[fair flower]

skyward assault's inv period is variable

you'll get more inv time the longer you wait to slam to the ground

having more attack speed shortens the invul period of all of merc's skills that give invul periods (both utilities and eviscerate)

commando's tactical dive has 0.45 seconds of invul

however, it's invul period is not affected by attack speed

can anyone confirm this?

I've been drilling into the ground but I never took any damage

Drill Dash deals 150% damage every 0.25 seconds while drilling in place. From maximum heat, it will deal a maximum of 1050% damage.

[fair flower]

miner's skills that give invul time are also affected by attack speed

Drill charge gives 0.550 sec of invul
Backblast gives 0.716 sec of invul
Drill dash's invul time is variable. It only makes you invincible while you are hitting an enemy so using this skill directly on top of an enemy will yield the most invul time. The best I've gotten was 0.282 sec.

[old summit]

Iirc it has something to do with movespeed

[fair flower]

This scales with attack speed. For example, I managed to deal 1200% damage from max heat with 2 soldier's syringes.

Sniper's Military Training gives 0.616 sec of invul and is not affected by atk speed

Dissolving Ambush gives 0.450 sec of invul during the spit attack and 0.850 sec during the warp. It's invul periods are shortened with more attack speed.

[fair flower]

Pilot's Aerobatics gives 0.216 sec of invul
Robomando's EVASIVE MANEUVER gives 0.365 sec
Neither are affected by attack speed

[fair flower]

Temporary items last for 80 seconds

[granite flax]

that depends on a few different factors (such as source)

[fair flower]

mb, I should have mentioned temp items from a Temporary Item Vendor

[fierce bison]

Is risk of resources still any good or is it rely on wiki and cry about it

[granite flax]

if its for rorr, the wiki's info is all pretty good

ror1's wiki is abysmal use rainstash for item stats

idk about ror2 sorry

[abstract blade]

We have a decent amount of stuff on riskofresources but unfortunately not as extensive as the wiki will have. Just of course the ror2 wiki has quite a few questionable things

[fierce bison]

oh it cap hello cap

[fair flower]

Using a mathematical model (lines and dots on a graph paper), I found that Festering Wounds's DoTs tick 17 times per second if spammed on a single target.

[fair flower]

each grid line represents 0.05 second

[native sage]

hoi! can I get a little clarification on a thing written on wiki? maybe is my reading comprehension but the wording is pretty strange

"It may be tempting to prioritize healing items to recoup HP costs for REX's skills. However, since they restore a percentage of max HP, their healing scales well into the endgame without much need for other sources of healing."
So it start saying that healing items seem to be a priority to restore REX's skills , all good from that, but then it says 'However, since they restore a percentage of max HP, their healing scales well into the endgame without much need for other sources of healing.' I can't understand if it's talking about the skills or the items

[lean atlas]

It’s talking about skills, all of REX’s skills damage and heal by percentages, (damage takes percentage of current health, heal gains percentage of max health). Since a lot of item healing sources are flat or very slow scaling, healing is actually less of a priority on REX than most other survivors, because your skills will almost always heal up what you are missing.

[native sage]

great!

[placid salmon]

idk how to edit the wiki but the Macrobic Predator page says it only spawns on these two maps which I think is incorrect

[onyx wraith]

It spawns on that stage 5 temple iirc

[rapid rapids]

I think I’ve seen it on Hive Cluster but may be completely wrong

[rare forum]

Could there be a video/gif that showcases umbrella effect? I wanted to show my friend how background goes dark and starts raining but I couldnt find it in the wiki

I know its rude to ask for y'all to do it but it would be cool imo

[candid ginkgo]

It does spawn there.

It spawns in;

• Hive Cluster
• Magma Barracks
• Temple of Elders
• Contact Light/Risk of Rain

This is just what I remember from ingame, it could spawn in more places that i forgot.

[charred gulch]

that all sounds correct to me

[elder egret]

<@&559786374228738069>

[tawny crown]

the wiki doesn't say anything about beating embryo + Nematocyst Nozzle, is that on purpose?

[fair flower]

why would that specific combo need a seperate entry?

the embryo doubles the amount of nematocysts released

[tawny crown]

it's just not on the page, I would expect it to be under effect happens twice, but don't see it

[fair flower]

oh nvm, I know what you mean

probably b/c it's a boss drop

I'll see what I can do

@tawny crown done, thx for heads up

[tawny crown]

cool

[onyx wraith]

What happened

[granite flax]

would have just been a spam bot

[stone fractal]

Are there channels for the discussion of the other RoR wikis just in case?

[rapid rapids]

Wdym other wikis?

[stone fractal]

Wikis of Risk of Rain 1 and 2

https://riskofrain.wiki.gg
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg

[old summit]

Both of them are semi looked after by this channel

[granite flax]

this is the place for discussion of all ror wikis :)

[stone fractal]

Ok good to know 👍

[warm heron]

The fact that fandom shows up no matter what is so annoying

[tardy carbon]

mmm, capitalism

[glacial belfry]

yeah

https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/Wiki.gg_Redirect This can help with that problem though on pc at least

[fathom jasper]

I just wanna say that this portion of mul-t’s tips section that i highlighted is wrong

If you have attack speed up (even from just a mocha), it works

However, when leaving the range of a warbanner, some weird thing happens that makes it so just a mocha doesn’t let you do this

[fathom jasper]

This text is the same on the wiki.gg page

[sleek carbon]

LaTeX math equations on dark mode is unreadable (black text on black background), is this known?

[placid salmon]

Huh that is an oversight

[elder tinsel]

Guys can we please actually come to some kind of consensus to how pulse spear works in returns? It feels entirely random, and it's WRONG in saying it only stuns the first enemy it doesn't pierce

i've been using it and it BLANTANTLY stuns enemies on sucessful pulses, but sometimes it doesn't either! And sometimes only stuns for like half a second

[odd lodge]

uggh

ill have a look at it in free time

[vestal breach]

wtf

[formal grail]

<@&559786374228738069>

[vestal breach]

This is weird

[naive rivet]

!ban 410881538516058113 nsfw spam link

[undone fern]

pktz_ was banned.

[vestal breach]

Cool

[naive rivet]

my discord was like lagging out lmao, was taking forever to type

[vestal breach]

That was just really weird

[quartz perch]

stunning for only half a second or so should only be on elites no?

[granite flax]

yooo free stuff!!!

<@&559786374228738069>

[patent geode]

#ror2-discussion message

[ashen mist]

does anyone perhaps know how to locate each stage's interactable credits and/or enemy/interactable pools in RoR2? i was hoping to find Verdant Falls' credits, but was unable to after countless hours or years of scouring the internet and game files

[remote dove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e1HBiidUlOwCgCAgW53mTK1af41Hj98orWGFvxykFic/edit#gid=0

if you use debug toolkit it lists stage credit on spawn

[ashen mist]

ah, i'll try that. thanks

yeah that worked!

seems like verdant has 280 interactable credits

[ashen mist]

woo https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Verdant_Falls

i'm 99% sure some of this is inaccurate/missing information (interactable/enemy list especially) but it's a start

[blazing plover]

How many do the other first stages have?

[ashen mist]

roost & plains have 220, siphoned has 300

[burnt thicket]

does anyone know what timestamp in the trailer the delusion artifact is shown? i cant find it at all.

[ashen mist]

it first shows up around 0:11

[burnt thicket]

tysm

[ashen mist]

yw!

[gentle mica]

hihi! I extracted all of the RoRR drone files and compiled them here next to a gif version cuz I noticed the wiki had no files on any of these, hope it can be helpful; it includes every drone except player ones (all tiers, gilded, and the special ones)

checked to see if they were exported right and indeed

[old summit]

rip in peace spotter drone

[placid salmon]

Really hope someone adds these

[granite flax]

even the unused han-d one nice :)

[maiden fjord]

yea what is that drone?

[granite flax]

it reduced equipment cooldown!

but the ability goes unused by the game

[gentle mica]

mhm

someone mentioned that there was a scrapped hand drone cuz it wasnt too fun or something and its prolly that one

equips are really situational so

makes sense its that

[old summit]

something tiny i just noticed with the gold drones in the lang file, the attack and med drones are "Guilded" but the beam, rocket, blaze are "Gilded"

[gentle mica]

huh

that's interesting

[old summit]

So idk if that was originally the hint for the tiers or just a coincidence misspelling

[gentle mica]

found a reddit post abt the lang post having this: FIRE A DRONE FOR 190% DAMAGE WHILE ALSO LOWERING EQUIPMENT COOLDOWNS AND EXTENDING OVERCLOCK DURATION. GAIN DRONES BY KILLING ENEMIES so it's probably that

according to it it's called a "VENT" drone

doubt that'd be its final name tho cuz BLAST is named BULLET in the files

[old summit]

There’s a good bit of things hidden in the files

[upbeat grove]

would it be worth adding on the wiki page for the railgunner: Marksman challenge that you can fire 30 consecutive weak point shots at teammates in co-op and get the unlock that way?

[cold wigeon]

odd complaint but

should we replace the images for the newt altars on verdant falls

[tiny belfry]

Be

[cold wigeon]

what

[placid salmon]

yes

[placid salmon]

probably

[abstract blade]

Petition to nuke all the "Tips" on the wiki? Say aye

[granite flax]

AYE

PLEASE AYE

[abstract blade]

wtf you're an admin, just do it

[granite flax]

thats kind of true... this guy is onto something...

just an admin for the rorr wiki, im afraid!

[abstract blade]

an inferior construct

[granite flax]

[spring sandal]

Please no

[fair flower]

Perhaps we should delegate tips to people that the wiki admins trust.

[hot vapor]

Nah

[rapid rapids]

I mean, I don’t see the harm in tips that make sense

[abstract blade]

too bad most of the tips don't make sense lol

[gentle mica]

changed the requirements on this one cuz before it said 1/4

on a related note, maybe there should be a small editor's note on this trial's page?

the in-game description and the wiki both still say it's just 1 toxic beast despite the minimum requirement being 2

[old summit]

Ye that should be editor noted

[upbeat compass]

Why is one of CHEF's challenges on Drifter's page?

[granite flax]

theyre best friends (no idea, good catch!)

[torpid nimbus]

The intruder

[gentle mica]

made all the survivors have the ingame description below the contents box, personally I think it fits better above but idk, most of them had it like this

what do you think

comparison

[granite flax]

i vote above, much nicer looking

[gentle mica]

yea

Ill move them all up

oh and another thing, should we have each survivor drone in a special section in the drones page?

ah nvm they were already moved up, very nice

oh shit the uh

the hide | details | showcase thing got borked

[gentle mica]

added the idle animations for each primary drone, I'll add the other animations (shooting and broken shooting) later today as well as add the upgraded versions below

also if someone could provide some short descriptions for the upgraded drones (attack, medical, rocket, blaze, and beam) that'd be nice

[grizzled pasture]

Isn't there also the glided drones?

[gentle mica]

eeeeeaa yea but idk, Iwas thinking of just adding a subsection in the upgrades section for each gilded drone cuz they're p much the same as tier 2 just with a few stats altared and a new paintjob

[grizzled pasture]

And then there's the special drones like the friendly construct and the item drones

[gentle mica]

yea

I got all the drone animations exported and all, so I'll add them to their respective lines

the special and item ones already have their space in the page e

[old summit]

would "Damaged" be a better word instead of broken as broken makes it seem like the interactable

[gentle mica]

true true

[gentle mica]

actually that reminds me

we could also add the actual broken interactable of each drone to the gallery

[old summit]

@gentle mica I’ll send you a link to our wiki test logs which has all the stats we tested

[gentle mica]

ahh

oki oki

[gentle mica]

gonna finsih adding all of the missing drones (tier 2 and gilded ones) today